Zaki Baruti Honors Black August & Explores Marcus Garvey’s Legacy

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
In facting with the most submiss the Carl Nelson Show.
You're facing with the most awesommissive.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
And grand rising family, and thanks for starting your Tuesday
with us. Later, the President General of the Universal African
People's Organization will check in. Zaki Brudi will reflect on
Black August, with special emphasis on Marcus Garvey Brother. Zaki
will also analyze Donald Trump's federalization of Washington, d C.
But before Zaki, community activist Ron Moten will also report

(00:56):
respond actually to Trump's decision and Mayor Bowser's response to
the federal government taken over the district. Before Rondo math
Guru A Kill Parker will check in and moment Telly
Brother Amday from the legendary Watch Profits will reflect on
the Watch uprising sixty years ago, this very week, before
we get all that started. It's got you Kevin opened
the school room doors for us and Kevin Grant Rising.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
Hey Cal Nelson, good morning, sir, It's uh what is
it Tuesday, the twelfth of August, Man and things just
are so different. This is no longer the city that
it used to be. But before we get into that,
how are you feeling, my brother?

Speaker 2 (01:38):
How you feeling I'm still learning, Kevin, I'm still in
the learning mode.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
Oh okay, you're not using AI to organize your life yet.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Not yet. It's it's kind of complicated for me. So
hopefully brother Sidiki will sort it out when he joins us.

Speaker 4 (01:55):
Yeah, exactly, exactly, Just tell him we need to talk.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
We need He'll be tomorrow. Man.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
But what about this new direction the president is taking
this city in and I mean I was going to
look up the word blood thirsty. He says, their bloodthirsty
criminals in the city. It sounds like pirates of the
Caribbean or something. It just you know, why would you
say that this is the nation's capital.

Speaker 4 (02:22):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (02:22):
It was one of the leading cities for tourists to
come to and visit and see what American is all about.
Is full of statues and museums and fine restaurants and
you know, great sites.

Speaker 4 (02:36):
And now you know.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
It's covered supposedly we're National Guard and eventually the entire military.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Come on, man, what are you would share this because
since you said that, you know, Ian Musk, we talked
about AI. Ian Musk has has what he calls Grock
is AI platform and people go on there ask about
Donald Trump, and the eye says he says, quote, he's
the most notorious criminal in d C. I describes Donald

(03:08):
Trump and that's his buddy Elon Musk's fabrication of his
platform on AI Rock. But anyway, I thought it was
interesting and he's.

Speaker 4 (03:21):
Not blood dirty even.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
You know, here's another term that he used that Kevin
and you see he got of its. Nearly full of
taught us. I watched the words. He says he was
savagely beating, beating the dude who got mugged, carjacked. He
was savagely beating. Again, you correlate that there were savages.
You know what I'm saying, and you're conjurab in your
mind what they know what they're saying when they say,

(03:46):
you know, just like the illegal alien thing, they're aliens.
They're not human, so we can treat them anyway. They
know exactly what they're saying with these huge words, and
nearly Fuller kept reminding us about that. They're not playing around.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
Yeah, it's like he hacked reality. Because violent crime in
the district has recordingly has fallen sharply since twenty twenty three,
shaking off the pandemic increases to reach a thirty year
low on the day Trump took off. As the changeing
grime rates is consistent with dramatic decreases and violence. I

(04:18):
wonder how the DC Police Department feels about this, you know.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
And that's a good question because you remember January sixth,
when when the DC the Metropolitan Police are trying to
stop them and all the other law enform agents have
stopped them from fading the Capitol and they got beat up.
He never called out. He didn't see that as a
problem to call out the National Guard to stop that
riot that took place on Capitol Hill. But this this,
you know, some guy gets mugged, a random mugging, and

(04:46):
to me, it looks like an Epstein, you know, cover up,
you know, do something distraction. Some people won't be talking
about Epstein. But I don't know, what are your thoughts.

Speaker 4 (04:55):
That certainly makes sense.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
It just like I said, it baffles the mind to
think that he believes that the d C Police Department
needs to be federalized and taken over by the president,
who is also the chairman of the Kennedy Center, who
is also how many jobs does he really want as president?

Speaker 4 (05:21):
It just doesn't make sense.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
And the question is, how do the police feel the
Metropolitan Police in Washington, d c. Field after some of
them got beat up and we can call them thugs
on January sixth, and he didn't respond, He didn't, you know,
support them. That adventure has followers, and now he wants
them to follow him. I'm just wondering how many of
these cops who Hey, and if you're out there and

(05:45):
you're listening to us, and you run the police department,
the Metropolitan Police, you have to use your real name
a cause lessen how you feel about this federal takeover?

Speaker 3 (05:54):
Well, according to Google, the union's position the DC Police
Union represent a large number of officers as express support
for the takeover, Yeah, citing concerns about rising rising violent crime,
staffing shortages, and low morale within the department. So they've

(06:14):
got low morales. So you bring in the National Guard?
Is that gonna pick up them around? They're gonna come
in with some good question of coffee, come in with
balloons and hey, here we are to save the day.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
What the maybe take your job?

Speaker 5 (06:29):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (06:29):
Yeah, by the way, you can sit down now right,
call your wife, tell her you on the way home.

Speaker 4 (06:34):
U They view federal see.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
And that that Kevin, then what that is that that's
that's a defense mechanism to say that, okay, crimes down,
but it's not our fault. Really, you know, we're the
Metroolan Police of the unit. It's not our fault. It's
because the moraleyes, lords, because we don't have enough officers,
you know, again deflecting, So we'll greet you President Trump
instead of say, okay, we need more officers, he says
he Trump or said, there's so many officers on the

(06:56):
streets of Washington, d C. So what's the problem? Crime
has gone down? But again it seems like a giant
deflection of me.

Speaker 4 (07:03):
Yeah, it really does.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
I mean, you apply for the job to be a
police officer and now you're saying there's a shortage of
police officers. So doesn't that mean you get a chance
to do your police job a little longer, a little
more or do you not love your job? See, that's
the challenge for those who love their job. You know,
you don't work, you see, and no matter how long

(07:27):
or it's just but maybe it's me. It's because you know,
I love my job so much that it just sometimes
you know, even when you have to go in and unexpectedly.
It's still the job you love, you see, you know anyway.
But here's another thing, concerns about federal involvement. Some officers

(07:49):
and federal agents involved in the initial deployment experienced confusion
about their roles and chain of command. According to a
senior law enforcement official, this suggests potential friction or uncertainty
within the department regarding the shift to federal oversight. And
they say that a confused mind does nothing.

Speaker 4 (08:10):
So what they call.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
Off, Yeah, it's kind of like who do we report to? Well,
I'm your boss, now, you know.

Speaker 4 (08:17):
Right right?

Speaker 3 (08:18):
Do we just call the way house and now you know,
pick up the red phone.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
And the way he Trump made the stamlish like every
other corner, every of the block. There's some crime being
committed in Washington, d C. That's totally not safe. You
can't walk anywhere in the district without getting mooked. And
you know that's not true.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
Well, those parking meters could be a crime. I'm telling you.
Those guys are to get people. So there's an impact
on the community trust. Experts has RAIDS concerned that the
federal takeover could negatively impact community trust, which is crucial
for effective crime fighting, especially in communities with already strained

(09:01):
relationships with law enforcement. And UH Mayor Maria Bowser was saying,
suppose that it causes people to not call the police anymore.
You know, they see a crime, but they're not gonna
call the police because you don't know who's gonna show up.
You don't know what their attitude is about the people
in the city even you see it seems like this

(09:22):
is just my humble opinion.

Speaker 4 (09:24):
Now it just seems like.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
A huge way to gentrify the city now by you know,
now you're claiming the city is so dangerous that and
that you've got to bring in, you know, the National Guard.
And aren't they reservists who are just you know, learning,
you know, to pick up an extra dollar by going

(09:45):
to UH to god duty, what is it every two
you know they do two weeks out.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
They're not necessarily crime fighters. No, that's what you're crime fighters. No,
that's not what they they're here for. That's not that's
not even why they're in the National Guard. But it's
supposed to guard if you will.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
I can see that. But policing, you know, give me,
give me the handcuffs, Dano, what.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
But check it out, Kevin. Yeah, the place of the
National Guard around the streets sixty years ago, Watts, let'spring. Yeah,
he was six years ago. This would be the second
day of the WATS Uprising. Let's bring you brother Amdi
from the legendary WATS prophets. Brother am Day, grand rising, Brother,
thanks for waking up with us this morning when rising, Good.

Speaker 6 (10:35):
Morning out about you're feeling well?

Speaker 2 (10:38):
Well, hope you feel better because I know you got
some health challenges, Brother, am Day. The WATS riots some
people call it, some people just say it's uprising started
on Monday. Monday was the sixtieth thundressing when he started.
Do you remember exactly when when you started the watch
riots started?

Speaker 6 (10:56):
I remember Watts what I said, and all good empty
pots a place where Winos and Hal and I took
their treasure to possessions to pawnshops on one hundred and
third in other spot. Yeah, I remember what when she
would turn away, pretending not to see the violence in
her streets. A rough place to grow up in, and

(11:19):
I got a lot of knots, but most of them
came from cops. And I remember good old Jordan High School.
They didn't teach me much, but it was cool. They
taught me what they wanted me to know, gave me
something to do and a place to go because I
hated the conditions and what and fell trapped and couldn't stay.

(11:40):
And oh happy I was when I moved away. I
remember how glad it was when I moved away. I
always I'll always remember why, because that's from where I came.
And since I've had a chance to travel, now I understand.

(12:01):
I understand. As long as you both it's still the ghetto.
They're all the same. They're all the same. The only
difference is in the name. And I remember what, Yes,
I do all right? How's that rigidos.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
And twelve at the top. They our family. I guess
he's a legendary Omday Omdy Hamilton. He's a member of
the founding member of the Wats Prophets. And those of
you were the younger end of the scale. That these
were the fore runnings for hip hop and rap. These
are the guys who started along with the lost poets.
Uh so uh bro amday that day in nineteen sixty five,

(12:47):
market friy. How did the message get around to the
to the folks in watch that something that the higher patrol,
you know, arrested some guy for Market Fry was his name,
for allegedly drunk driving. How did spring so fast?

Speaker 6 (13:02):
Well, Wats was a very tight ened little community. If
you live there, you had saw all the people in
watch it one time or another, and we had acted.
As I say, we were a tight little community and
information went around quickly, especially police brutality, because there was
that high degree at that time. At the day of

(13:24):
the ride, I was in prison. I got out a
few days after the riot and came back to Watts
and watched it showly change. I watched the community to
us become socially engineered to what it is today. And
we saw a man by the name of Bud Schuberg

(13:46):
came to Watts. He's a guy who made that film
on the Waterfront and he came to Watson started the
Watch Writer's Workshop, and I became a part of that
workshop as soon as I got out of And I
had already knew Richard because we'd went to Catholic school together,
and we later met Otis and brought him into the group.

(14:09):
And d D MacNeil, who came from Motown. We brought
her for two years with the group. When we made
our first album and the first album in the world
law Rap, which named it this art form, it's ever
evolving art form rap. And that's where you got that

(14:30):
this art for him, as I'd say, from the Watts Profits,
and how we became a part of that and how
rap became a part of it. I've been saying the word.
I'm eighty six years old and rap has been a
part of my vocabulary since I was about eight years old.
It was a colloquial word amongst us. Let me go

(14:53):
rap to that, sister. Can I wrap to you? Brother?
But that's how the WATS profits started. And when we
came to the workshop, we didn't say we were poets
at Boyden. We said we was rapping, and no one
paid attention to that. They looked at us as mediocre

(15:13):
or we wanted to academically equipped to be pullets, etc.
And we started the Watchwriter's Workshop along with Bud Schuberg.
After a while, Watts was full of corn tail pro
you could almost notice it. We called them carpetbaggers, but

(15:34):
we recognized some of them, but I didn't recognize the
one that burned our workshop down. His name was Dorthor Perry,
and I'm the one who hired him. One night, we
were rehearsing a play called The Iron Hand of Nat Turner,
and this man was laying on the ground outside of
the back door of the stage and we went out

(15:57):
there and we talked to him and he told was
he was hungry. She'd knew that was a lie because
he was fat, but yeah, he told us he was hungry.
So me, with my compassion itself, I I when got
the other artist and we put some money together and

(16:17):
got him some food. That evening, as we were leaving
the workshop, he was laying by the front door, so
we asked him Brook because just at this time, Watts
didn't have homeless way of the black community in Watson
in Los Angeles, we took care of our homeless, so
we didn't have any We didn't have any homeless, and

(16:40):
it was really kind of shocking to us to see
somebody sleeping on the ground. So we got together and
I say, got him some food. And then when we
were closing, he was slaying by the front door. So
I told Harry Dolan, who was the director of the
workshop at that time. Harry won and we let him
sleep in the workshop. Man ain't nothing but a bunch

(17:02):
of you know, cheers and stuff there. He can't taste
steal anything. Harry was a bit reluctant, but he did
to make a long story short. That man burn our
porkshop to the ground. In fact, there you can look
at him. There's a something on the web about this

(17:24):
guy Dodd Perry and what he did to our workshop.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
But right there tom Day we got to step away
for a few moments. I'll let you finish the story
when you come back. Family, just waking up seventeen after
top there om Day from the legendary Watch prophets, as
we reminisce on the Watch uprising sixty years ago. This
week started on Monday Market Friday. Leegendly was driving drunk
and the highway patrol pulled him over, similar to what

(17:49):
happened in ninety two with Rodney King. You supposed to
driving drunk of the highway patrol pulled him over. In
the same events that happened rolled out in ninety two,
is in sixty five. You want to join this conversation,
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Speaker 7 (18:07):
Now back to the Carl Nelson Show, a grand.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
Rising family, thanks for waking up with us on this
Tuesday morning. Twenty minutes after the top of the ore
the gres Brother Homdi from the Legendary Watts Prophets, and
this is the sixtieth anniversary of the Wats Riots. The
Wats Prophets was one of the offshoots, if you will,
of the Watch Riots, the Siliver, Ben and Elvans started
by folks after the Wats Rise trying to rebuild Watts.
So they started the what's the legendary watch Prophets? What

(18:55):
was it? The workshop called Brother hom Day again, what's right,
It's works shop, okay, until finish story for us.

Speaker 6 (19:05):
Well, he began to sabotage the workshop. He did things
like we were very close to Hollywood at that time
and many of the black entertainers, so we had equipment.
We would get the latest of equipment from r KO
and different different entities, and he would he destroyed equipment.
I remember one time we we had a very great

(19:30):
mailing list and this mailing list would always bring money
to us, uh donations and uh so as this guy
got in the middle of that as an example, we
we we we we sent out we were having a
fundraising event and uh, the day that we were mailing

(19:53):
out the invitations, he happened to be in the workshop.
So we asked him to drop these at the post office.
He said he would do that, and what he did
is he dropped him in the sewer and the night
of that fundraiser, not one person came. Those were the
kind of things he were doing to us till he

(20:14):
finally burned the workshop down. It was he was a
brother who came from the University of Davis in Thankan
sacrament home, and he had been busted for a check
he wrote a bad check or something. So he accepted

(20:34):
an assignment from the SBI, and you can find this
on in a gill Noble interview with him. And so
he began to Uh. He said he was took the
assignment to destroy black organizations. And I don't know how
many he destroyed. Some of these organizations had some very

(20:58):
vicious things to happened to them, murder, all kinds of things.
But anyway, the Watch profits continued to grow and we
began to do our concept in our ever evolving language
called rap, and it began to grow. We were the
first ones to take poetry into clubs and to show

(21:21):
you how effective rap was. There's not a continent on
Earth where they aren't rapping. But you never hear the
name the wats profits And we made the first album
Born and we named that art form rap. And so
that's kind of how gradition.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
Yeah, that's something very positive came out of the Watch
Riose because all in all, seventy thousand people were involved,
but they weren't active. It lasted for six days. This
would be Day two sixty years ago. There was more
than a thousand people injured, almost thirty five hundred arrest,
forty million dollars back then in property dammaged just forty

(22:05):
million dollar property dams back is sixty five. The first
person and for the history book Buffs, the first person
got shot at the Watch Riots was Dick Gregory. He
got shot right up there on Sentry Boulevard. He was
the first person to get a bullet in the Watch rights.

Speaker 6 (22:22):
Martin King, I believe also.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
Yeah, but he was at the riots and he was
the first person who got shot at the Watch Riots.
But I'm there. Mark in Baltimore has a question for
he's calling online gun.

Speaker 6 (22:37):
Say this before before he asked me this question. What
came out of the watch Rights. We could talk about
that in a minute, but what we The major thing
we ended up with out of the watch Rights was
Martin Luther King Hospital to postgraduate medical school. But you see,
the black community before the riots had been fighting for

(23:01):
all the things that we find some of the things
that we finally got in the riots. In order for
us to go to a hospital and watch at that time,
we kill My daughter happened to be born on Alamedian
First Street, because if we wanted to deliver a baby
or go to any kind of urgent care, we had
to go to East LA. That's what miles away from

(23:25):
what And so our mothers and fathers and grandmothers had
been fighting for all the things that some of them
we got after the watch riots. But after the ninety
two riots they got a prison.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
Yes you this is you mentioned that East LA was
the closest urgent care center. Was East La, like it
is now, predominantly Hispanic back then, yes it was.

Speaker 6 (23:49):
It was predominantly Hispanic. Then Watts had a small group
of a small group of Hispanic people. But we all
got a.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
Loan that Yeah, things have changed. You know, we say
East La when people say are for Easter of La
automatically think that they're Hispanic or just straight up Mexican.
That you know, that's how it breaks it right, As
I mentioned twenty six at a time, Mark from Baltimore
has a question for East online Grand Rising Market with
on Day.

Speaker 8 (24:20):
Yes, good morning, gentlemen. A very fascinating history. My question
is how much of it today has been taught in
history classes in the in the schools, you know, particularly
in the African American community. But the history of the
worlds right when I'm on sixty five, so it was
only five when you had the writing that started around

(24:41):
this time sixty years ago, so obviously I didn't know
anything really in the school's about But how much is
that being taught, uh, you know, as part of the
black history or anything like that. Do you have an
idea about that? Thank you?

Speaker 6 (24:53):
What an interesting question. After the Waits riots about five
years ago, I've been trying to save a building that
was built by black architects. It was called them a
Fundy institute. Doctor Karga was a part of the grew
early group that he helped found it. But well it
was actually founded by watspeople. It was first called Watts

(25:15):
Happening Coffee House. Then after that it became called a
Fundy institute. When Baraka and them tried to bring their
black art movement to Los Angeles, we didn't need a
black art movement. We did have one sister forties. It
was a home of Don Sherry, Billy Higgins on that Coleman,
how much more abstract or artists you want to get?

(25:38):
So we didn't, Like I said, we didn't do anything
other than just continue to try to push our poetry
and our new concept called rap Brilliant.

Speaker 8 (25:53):
Yeah, okay, listen, thank you so much, and I wish
your chalon by.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
Budd S thank you and call it to the serious.
Just said that Alphonse Terry, he went by the code
name of othellow. You know we've heard about it, yes,
when we saw what happened with Chairman Fred how they
used that informant and we saw that in the movie.
And also for my FBI agent from Baltimore to tell

(26:21):
us that the coin tailpro is still going on, you know,
they they they just don't blame me coin tailpro and
he says the reason why it's still going on because
it was effective.

Speaker 6 (26:30):
Indeed, yes, but I didn't answer this question. Let me
finish answer to that Carl. About five years ago, they
wanted to tear this building down. It was the only
building build during the wats riots. It's from a fundy
institute at womenon under the third and he asked me
about the history of it. A white man came and

(26:50):
told me, hey, they getting ready to tear him a
fundy down the city of Los Angeles. I said, oh no,
they can't do that. That's all we got left from
the riots and from our in our community. So to
make a long story short, I went to the city.
I went to the city council, to our city councilman first,

(27:12):
and then I spoke to the city council. No one
knew the history of the Whites riot. No one knew
the history of that building. None of the youth, none
of the city councilman, none of their assistance. We couldn't
their their idea.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
What year was this, brother Dave.

Speaker 6 (27:36):
I've been trying to save that building for over twenty years,
but at five years the city was going to burn
it down. Five years ago, I went to the city.
They when I told them the history of the day.
They and that's not you know, they didn't even believe it.
No one knew it, no one. I couldn't find anyone
in city government. I couldn't find all of the old

(27:58):
people who did all this work. They were all just
about dead and gone or not into politics anymore. Not
one person knew the history of the FUNDI institute Glaw
of the Wats Rise, and I finally saved the building
and made it a historical site about a year ago

(28:20):
with some other people who helped me to save that building.
So no one knew the history. I had to come
and retell everybody the history of Watts and our the
African American contribution to that community. No one knew it.
They didn't know that was the Charlie Mingus lived there,

(28:44):
Erry White, Don sherry On, that Covid, Billy Higgins. It
was a community of music, but they changed it to
a community of visual arts through social engineering. They kind
of removed the music and the performer and brought in
visual arts and put visual artists over the black artists.

(29:08):
We had artists like David Moseley who went all of
That's Sugar Shane Moseley's uncle who went all across America
spreading his artwork. And that picture that you see around
is still around. It's Evangela Davis with it. It's a
black and white. It's Evangela Davis with a big, beautiful

(29:29):
natural and his printer ended up dead. David ended up
his art being stole. All of They used to see
his art on Bill Cosby's show and stuff like that.
But you never hear of those voices, nor do you
ever hear of the wats prophet and that we are

(29:51):
the fathers of rap and we gave it the name Rap.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
Well, that's why we're here to have you make a
difference and so people can learn because you are the
original founders. That's where it all started for rap. It's
twenty eight minutes away from the top of Yeah, and brother,
I'm de markam Anaheim. Sent me pictures of that era
that you're talking about. It's been gentrified. They're building condos.
I don't know if you've been there in a minute,
but they're building condos up there and it looks totally

(30:16):
different from what probably would the last time you were
in that neighborhood.

Speaker 6 (30:21):
That's right, it's totally different. The only thing that you
might recognize.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
Is the watch towards, Yes, the watch Towers, the family.
He's just waking up with us after guess is brother
Amdy from the Watch Prophets and he's sort of reflecting
on sixty years ago the WATS riots. Out of the
Watch rights came the Watch profits. Brother. I'm did anything
any other group or or anity come out of the
Watch rights? And how folks are feeling benevent because the

(30:46):
neighborhood in watches being ignored, you know, just benign neglect,
if you will. Did anything else come out other than
the Watch prophets? The Watch writers, Roger Moseley.

Speaker 6 (30:56):
Roger Moseley, the guy who played on with that program
with flew the helicopter. He came out of that workshop
that I'm talking about, the WATS profits. DD Macnew passed
through there. I just can't and this it doesn't come
to my mind, but the WATS profits were probably the

(31:16):
most popular thing that came out of that workshop. And
we never It's amazing that art form called rap. We
never had a pr campaign. We never had nobody push us.
Everybody tried to put us down, and wrap is on
every continent and on this earth without anybody trying to

(31:39):
it was went from word about and it started this
great poetry movement that you see all over the world now.
And that started right down that little building that I
was begging them not to burn, that not to tear down.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
So twenty six away from the topic, let me ask
you this, how would you define rap?

Speaker 6 (32:02):
Rapper is an ever evolving language. It started in slavery
when we first came here. If you came from Ghana,
Ghana had us say like some like over forty languages.
Then you had to ban two languages. There was over
four hundred of them, and then there were other languages.
So when we came here, we were a little more

(32:23):
confused than people understand. We couldn't talk to each other.
So what we begin to do is we begin to
take words from our slave master, words from our tribes,
words from our community, and we began to formulate this
ever evolving language that had to have deceit in it.

(32:46):
As an example, when I say deceit, if I tell
you you'll hear a person say that's bad and they
mean good, that's rap. That's the deceit in it. But
it's ever evolved in its regional In other words, the
hip things and the hip language in New York is
not the need they don't do nothing. It's not the

(33:09):
hip language in New Orleans, or it's the hip language
in Los Angeles. Rapids and every evolving language that it
continues to evolve. It didn't come to light in the
education in the and the monthly educated. This ever evolving
language didn't come to light till a poet by the

(33:31):
name of Carl launch Dunbar came about, and they called
it dialect, but they knew it was a new, ever
evolving language. What I mean by every evolving Carl, I'm
a little older than you. You probably called a house
a pad. The next generation called it a crib. The
next generation, these children call it a spot. And the

(33:54):
language continues to evolve according to the region that it's in,
and that what they talk about, the environment that they
grow up in, they use the words in that environment
in et cetera. And this language continues to evolve, and
it's evolved all over the world now. As I said,
but it's an ever evolving language. And then you had

(34:18):
people see rap means to scatter it, humm it, chat it,
whistle it blog. However you can communicate with the voice
is rapping and that's that's what it is today. And
it continues to evolve and it continues to grow. And

(34:39):
as I said, we had no advertising campaigns. Nobody told
you about the Watch profits, but that language, that ever
evolving language continue to evolve until today. In fact, I
can't even understand some of the young rappers today. I
can't understand that language because it's.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
Every I'll let you explain that why you have problems
understanding that this is a generation of rappers twenty three
minutes away from the top of the family, just checking
in and waking up. Our guest is Amdi. Amdi is
from the Watch Prophets. He's one of the founding members
of the legendary Watch Propfits, an offshoot of the wats
riots that took place sixty years ago today and this
is reminiscent or reflected on that with Omdai. You want

(35:20):
to join the conversation, reach out to us at eight
hundred and four or five zero seventy eight seventy six
and take a calls after the news that's next.

Speaker 7 (35:32):
Now back to the Carl Nelson Show.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
Grand Rising Family, Thanks for waking up with us on
this Tuesday morning. I guessed his brother Amdy from the
profits of the legendary WATS prophets. These were the forerunners
have wrapped today. Watch Profits is an offshoot of the
WATS Riots, and today is the sixtieth anniversary of the
Watch Riots. He started actually on the eleventh. He ran
for about five days, over forty million dollars in property damage.

(36:18):
More than thirty five hundred people are arrested. This is,
you know, thirty four deaths. And as I mentioned earlier,
Dick Gregory was the first person who got shot at
the WATS Rise. I don't know if that's the sort
of distinction that people want to discuss, but he was
there when it jumped off. Before we go back to Onde, though,
let me just remind you. Coming up late this morning,
we're going to speak with the President General of the
Universal of African People's Organization out be Zaki Brewery. He's

(36:40):
going to reflect on Black August. This is part of
Black August, the WATS Rise with special empists on Marcus Garvey.
Brother Zaki also analyzed Donald Trump's federalization of Washington, DC.
But before Brother Zaki, community activist Ron Moten will respond
to Trump's decision and the mayor's responds to the federal
government's takeover of the district. Before we get all of

(37:00):
that math grew brother a kill Parker going to check
in as well. And later this week you gotta hear
from the University of Houstons doctor cheryld Horn, futuristic researcher.
But let' Saidika Bikar, they're going to be here. So
if you're in Baltimore, make sure you keep your radio
lot to right here on ten ten WLB, or if
you're in the dmv R on FM ninety five point
nine and AM fourteen fifteen WL. Brother there, I think

(37:22):
we sort of stopped to you. He was telling us
another story about what happened sixty five.

Speaker 6 (37:28):
Well, one thing, let me define hip hop versus rap.
Hip Hop is a culture. Rap is an art form.
Hip Hop came and co OpEd rap as if it
was theirs. If you remember, Little Richard used to say
rock and roll had a baby rhythm and blues had

(37:49):
a baby call rock and roll. Well, rap at a
baby call hip hop. Hip Hop was brought in when
it began to be taken over by the industry or
whatever elements that took over wrap. I happened to go
through a meeting one time. Several of us have had
experienced this meeting, and I was brought there by a

(38:14):
famous rapper, and this rapper evidently thought that I might
want to go along with the program. And so I'm
sitting in this meeting. It's about one hundred white men there,
and they're talking about this new thing coming about called
hip hop. But I didn't know what they who they were.
I was trying to figure out if I was sitting

(38:35):
in the audience, who are these people? And it absolutely
was the music industry. It was accountants, managers, agents, etc.
And they was talking about this new thing coming about
called hip hop, and that they should also as this

(38:56):
new thing comes about, they should also invest in vest
in the prison industrial complex. When that happened, I got
pissed off and walked out. I should have stayed and
holsdt her the whole story. But I watched hip hop
slowly take over the conversation. That's when they begin to

(39:19):
add MF, etc. And I want to say to some
of you old people, as soon as you hear a
cuss word and some of these kids of art, don't
go away. Just let it go and listen to what
they're trying to say, because some of them are screaming
between that. See. Much of those things that you hear

(39:43):
are wrote in corporate office. In other words, if you
write a song and you only have mL twice, your
producer may tell you, hey, bro, you need five more
mfs in there. And they begin to corrupt this art form.
And they took it over, and I never mentioned rap.

(40:04):
They tamed it hip hop and took off and it
was put there in that form to feel this new
prison industrial private complex. That's what hip hop started as
in the industry, and slowly it began to take over
because it had all the power all the but rap

(40:26):
continued to grow without any help. It was like a
natural thing. As I said, nobody called our names up,
wished us at all. But we just kept growing, kept growing,
and our poetry is all over the earth now. And
we never made a dime. We worked and survived. I

(40:48):
had a big lawn company. I cut lawns so that
I could be free to say what I wanted to say.
And we all did that. We all worked in labor.
In fact, either Long was the last one to work
for us.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
Let Mejmine ask you, this is twelve away from the top.
There are because you mentioned hip hop and the differences
with hip hop and rap when you were rapping, did
you guys use the N world because it seems like
hip hop this is where it started. And now it's
you know that people saying we shouldn't say that, and
I agree, we shouldn't say it's a term of endement
amongst ourselves. But now people say this is what they

(41:27):
they're saying. You know, if a white person said you're
gonna you're gonna slug it, you're gonna hit him for
saying it. Did you have those issues with rap or
did all of this start as part of the hip
hop culture.

Speaker 9 (41:37):
No, it was a.

Speaker 6 (41:38):
Part of us. You know, it was a part of us.
Like one of our famous poems is them Niggas ain't playing.
It was in this last movie that y'all, big movie
that y'all were. We've been in several of these big
black movies. If you just listen that or that particular
poem opened that. I can't think of the name of
the movie, but I got a little money for it. Yes,

(42:02):
hip hop was, like I say, inserted and co opted
raps as if it was their element. It's they say
hip hop has several elements DJ and rapping, et cetera. Well,
it's sort of co opted rap and took over the
conversation and destroyed the Watch Profits careers.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
Now you turn away from the top of our family
just waking up. I guess his brother Amdi from the
Watch Prophets sort of reflecting on the Watch What's uprising?
Sixty years ago the offshoot of the uprising, the wats Profits,
they had a workshop that set up a writer's workshop
and this is read the legendary of Watch Prophets. They
were born out of that workshop. You said that some
of this hip hop music that you are rap music today,

(42:49):
that you hear that you you don't understand it is
that difficult for you being the originators of the of
the genre. And now you hear some of the people
were saying, that's wrapping that hip hop and it's still
hard for you to follow.

Speaker 6 (43:04):
Yes, it's getting harder for me to follow, but it
changes everywhere. The hip words in Chicago are not the
hip words in Los Angeles, and they're formed, you know,
like a poet has a license to form his own
words and compose his own words, and that's what these
kids are doing. You know, and if you stop and
listen to them, you'll hear their screaming to give us

(43:29):
a hand through all of that, because but black people,
we don't listen. Once we hear the word MF, we
hear the word nigga excuse expression. Once we hear that,
we stop listening to our children. These are still our children,
you guys. And they have been misled and they have

(43:51):
continued to be misled with money. Don't you see they
have media, the dollars. Don't you see how they cultivating
murder right now? It's under complete control, as I told you,
and it helps keep the prison industrial complex, the private
prison industrial complex food.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
Do any of these rappers, these big time rappers, hip hoppers,
or reach back and you know, say, brother AMD, thank
you for creating the genres. Look, I'm filthy rich and
if it wasn't for you, I would be driving this
and living this and this large. Do any of them
come back and thank you for creating it?

Speaker 6 (44:31):
Only two rappers ever came and tried to give us
a hand. One was easy and the other one who
helps me now is DJ Quick. He's always been with me,
He's always opened my first album. I didn't know that
young people were listening to our poetry, and in particularly mine,

(44:51):
And I was in invited in the late sixties to
a early I've in middle seventies, I was invited to
a to a party and I too to us concert
of rappers. And I went to this concert and I
was standing in backstage in a corner, just watching. And suddenly,

(45:14):
this is when I found out the impact of rap.
Suddenly I'm standing here against the wall and here comes
easy AMG, Doctor Drace, a whole group of them. They're
walking down the corridor. So when they passed me, DJ
Quick said, do you guys know who that he is?
And so they said, no, man, who is that? They say,

(45:38):
that's Imdia the watch profits and they what blew my mind.
Every one of them had memorized some of my poetry
and they all start saying it at the same time.
I just fell up against the wall. I didn't know
young people were listening to us like that, but d
they Quick. In fact, he told me whenever I come

(46:01):
home from the hospital that he will. He asked me,
did I want him anywhere I wanted to go in
the world, I could go, he would send me. But
he's the only one who's ever they all come and
laid it KOs and U c l a, it's it's
it's on there, And he at the end of the

(46:22):
conversation he bowed to me, told me I was a
great historian, et cetera. But he never changed his conversation.
None of them rappers ever mentioned that they have been.
It was a complete eliminating us from the conversation. It
isn't it is, it is complete. They managed to do

(46:47):
that with the wats prophets. I mean, I was shocked,
But still our poetry grew all over dessert and continues
to grow.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
Sure stix away from the top of Somehow you ended
up with Bob Marley? And can you share that story
with us? What was was he? Did he know? Did
he know about your your music of the watch profets
when you met him?

Speaker 6 (47:13):
Yes? I did. And here's how I met Bob Marley.
I was working with Archbishop Usac, the head of the
the Open Orthodox Church in the Western Hemisphere. So I
would study with him in Jamaica, and he Bob. He
was Bob Marley's mentor, and so Bob had given him

(47:33):
apartment next to his house. And so when I would
go to Jamaica. I would go there to study with
the archbishop, and I would see Bobby was right next door.
One day we had to go to a content. We
had to go to a meeting. The bishop had a
meeting with Bob, so I went. I drove him and

(47:55):
why he went to the meeting with Bob. I went
and said in the studio with Bob's positions. While sitting there,
one of them asked me. He said, what do you
do man, I said, I'm a poet. He said, do
a poem. When I finished the poem, I heard some
clapping in the background. It was Bob Barty. He was

(48:17):
in the boots. He came out of the booths and
he said, man, who are you. I said, I'm a poet,
I said in the group called the wats Prophets. And
I went to the car and I got our album
Wrapping Black in the White World, and I got one
of our books and I gave them to him. The
next morning, when I came out, he was standing in

(48:41):
front of the apartment under a tree, and he called
me over. He said, man, I stayed up all night.
I listened to your album, and I read y'all's book,
and I want to record with the Watchs Prophets. So
when he died, we were in the We were getting
ready to make an album with Bob Marley, which would

(49:03):
have been something very great for us and help us
be all over the world like he did. But that's
how I met Bob Marley. And in fact, last week
they came and got me from the hospital. His grandsons
and I did something on Soul Rebel Marley, that's one
of them, one of the young grandsons. I did something

(49:26):
on his latest album, but you guys will see coming
out pretty soon. It's called a Prayer. So that's how
I met Bob Marley, and we had you know, we
were being because you see, our careers was actually destroyed
basically by black people. They did the work. They were
the ones who would tell white people that we were militants.

(49:50):
As soon as you said militant, we were cut off.
But that's how I met Bob Marley, and that's how
I became friends with him, and now I'll still friends
with his grandchildren. In the fact, as I said, there's
a new album coming out called My Prayer, which I
have a little party, not a lot, but I have

(50:11):
a little party.

Speaker 2 (50:12):
Grand right there, brother, and we got to check the
traffic and weather in our different cities. When we come back,
Brother Man two in New York City has a question
for you. Family, YouTube can join us. Speak to Andi,
legendary watch prophets, the offshoot of the Watch Riots. It's
it's sixty years ago today. It all started. What are
your thoughts? Eight hundred and four five zero seventy eight
seventy six ticket phone calls after the traffic and weather update.

Speaker 1 (50:33):
It's next, You're fucking with the most awesomeiss the Carl
Nelson Show.

Speaker 10 (50:44):
You're fucking with the most awesome miss.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
Thank grand rising family, Thanks of waking up with us
on this Tuesday morning. I guess there his brother a
day from the Watts Profits, sixty years ago, the WATS Riots,
You're up to you. The Wat's uprising if you will
in Los Angeles. Out of that, after the tust settled,
h came the WATS Writers Workshop. Out of the Watch
Rights Workshop was the Watts Profits and one of the

(51:30):
founding members was brother am Day and they started what
now today people call rap and hip hop is all
started by his group. Were all started from it. So
we sort of reflect him back on sixty years ago,
as I mentioned earlier. As many of you know.

Speaker 6 (51:45):
That question. If you asked me that any of the
rappers help us, as I said only DJ quick and easy,
that I've been sampled every year for the pants forty years,
and I'm the reason why they get paid. You see,
when rap first started, people didn't know what sampling was.

(52:08):
And my kids kept telling me in the early years, Papa,
we Dad, we hearing you on the radio. We hearing
you on the radio. Well, at that time, nobody knew
about what rap was. So one day I finally heard
my voice on the radio, and so I began to

(52:29):
I tried to go to the entertainment lawyers, but none
of them even knew what rapping was of sampling. So
I got on the phone and I started calling lawyers
straight down Wish until finally I got a lawyer near
u c LA who said, because I would tell the lawyers,

(52:49):
I'd say, listen, I'm hearing my voice on the radio,
and I said can they do that? And they would
all say, well, I heard of anything like that. So
finally I got to an nalectal property lawyer who said,
they cannot use your voice without your permission, and so

(53:11):
I think it was one of the big record companies,
Sony Ors he ate one of them at that time.
They said, we're not paying for poetry. We pay for
a song. And me and my son challenged them and
we told them what's the difference in the song and
a poem? Show me and they couldn't. To make a
long story short, I ended up on the front page

(53:33):
of the San Francisco Law Journal with that lawyer and
they had to pay us. And that's how rappers started
getting paid.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
Wow, good for you. I'm the erasing of the clock
and Man two has been holding and has a question
for years going from New York Cities on line one.
You're rising man too, Can you make it quick for us?

Speaker 6 (53:53):
Yes?

Speaker 11 (53:53):
I agreed of Arezoni to all in grand rising, my elder,
thank you for sharing. And I just wanted to know
what does nineteen seventies three mean to you? They said
that in their established history that August eleventh, nineteen seventy
three is when hip hop was born? So what does
nineteen seventy three mean to you?

Speaker 6 (54:13):
And also, Bob, I don't know anything about hip hop, sir,
I know about rattle, I don't know anything about hip hop.
I have not followed their You know, I see their progress,
but I don't know anything about it. Pop. I don't
know when it started and all that, because they have
so many guys who are claiming it. It's not just

(54:34):
him and then in the music and she, you know,
they usually followed their lead.

Speaker 11 (54:42):
But no, in the year nineteen seventy three. What does
that mean to you creatively as your individual journey, aside
from hip hop or anything else. What does ninety seventy
three mean to you in your life and your journey?

Speaker 6 (54:58):
Thank you. It's all the same with the Watch Profits.
We weren't looking for applause. We had a cause, and
that's what we continued to have. We died, both of
the two of us are dead now, and we died
defending that cause. We weren't interested in a plug.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
All right, this is Bob, can do it real quick
for us because we got brother Akhil on Dak Bob
in Buffalo. Your question real quick for brother I'm day.

Speaker 12 (55:27):
Yes, sure, I was one of the impact of Jamil
al name as they know, I'm known before h Rap Brown. Oh,
he might have touched or impacted watched the Watch Profits.

Speaker 6 (55:41):
No, our community that was a part of our culture.
So I told you I've been using the word rap
since I was eight years old my uncle. If you
were street people, that was a word amongst street people.
I lived in the middle of the black community at
that time, Central Avenue. Was a little boy and my
aunt it was a pool shot and so he would

(56:03):
take me in pool alt and I would hear that word.
It was a colloquial word that was amongst It wasn't
anything you know, different or anything. It was just a
part of.

Speaker 2 (56:13):
Us, all right, Thanks Bob, Brother Imday, thank you, thank
you for sharing this history. I mean, hopefully folks get
a copy of this podcast and share with your friends.
This is some history that you hear. You heard the
here this morning from brother am Day, and let me
just hopefully that you feel much better. He sat there
on the West coast and you got up early to

(56:34):
share his thoughts and reflect on the Watch riots and
also how the Watch profits came out of the ashes
of the Watch uprising. So Brother Imda, thank you again
for doing that for us this morning.

Speaker 6 (56:46):
Well, thank you guys for inviting us. And I have
a new book called Ebony Creole Whispers. It talks you
about my creole background because amongst the Louisiana people. They
prayed militant poets de grills if you check the history,
and my grandmother was one who bred me to be

(57:07):
a poet.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
Once you get home, give us a call and we'll
talk about the book.

Speaker 6 (57:12):
Sure, thank you.

Speaker 2 (57:14):
I'll gat God bad.

Speaker 13 (57:15):
Everybody have a good day, all right, mhmm, good morning.

Speaker 3 (57:43):
Uh huh, all right, this is the call now the
morning show, and we seem to have am all technical difficulty.
So meanwhile we've got math Gharu brother Akil Parker with

(58:05):
some back to school tips.

Speaker 4 (58:07):
A good morning brother, Akil, Good morning brother.

Speaker 3 (58:12):
And what's going on in your wonderful life. Tell us
about your background and let the audience know where you're
coming from while I figure out where Karl is.

Speaker 14 (58:21):
Go ahead, Well, my background has been a math educator
for the past twenty years, just you know, trying to
fight the good fight and try to reorient our people
toward the fact that math is your friend and math
is not a bully that you should try to run
away from. Math is actually well when you feel you're

(58:44):
being bullied in situations, because math really is cool liberation
and you know, it enables you to you know, think
more critically and think more analytically, be able to solve
actual problems. You know, started out teaching in Philadelphia back
in twenty two thousand and five, and this twenty twenty

(59:06):
five is my twentieth years as a math educator. I've
taught at several charter schools as well as traditional public
schools throughout the Philadelphia area. I've also been an adjunct
professor at both LaSalle University in Philadelphia and as well
as Cheney University, which is a historically black college, you know,

(59:27):
founded in eighteen year, eighteen thirty seven as the Institute
for Colored Youth used to be located in South Philly
back then in the nineteenth century, and you know, now
it's Change University out in Chester County. I believe I
always get confused as I always can't remember which county
is and whether it's in Chester County or Delaware County.

(59:48):
But at any rate, I started a company called All
This Math, All This Math back in twenty seventeen. We
started out as a math tutoring company, and we you know,
expanded into some other areas recognizing that you know, the
community needs resources, you know, not just you know, to
be criticized for how poorly their children are doing it

(01:00:11):
in mathematics. But they need actual tangible resources. So that's why,
you know, I wrote my book How to Use All
This Math, Volume one, which is a resource guide to
help parents prepare their children for math class whether the
child attends a public school or charter school or a
private school. And also I maintained All this Math YouTube
channel where you can go and get you know, free

(01:00:34):
math tutorial videos. You know at an't need any time
you need them. You know, we're almost at a thousand videos.
I got actually exactly nine hundred and.

Speaker 15 (01:00:43):
Ninety eight videos on.

Speaker 14 (01:00:44):
The channel, and this is a free resource. It's called
All This Math. We got topics from the arithmetic all
the way up to Calculus one. And for those parents
that are listening that are you know, uncomfortable with what
people call the new math, I have a lot of
videos where I just described some of these methods that
are being used in classrooms all over the country, you know,

(01:01:08):
And I even within the videos I talk about what
the benefit of the so called new math is because
a lot of people feel like, well, why we got
to do it this way? What was wrong with the
old way? If it don't broke, don't fix it. Well,
actually some things were broke because thirty years ago and
four years ago a lot of us had, you know,
issues with math too. So you know the way math

(01:01:29):
is being toard, being off and now you know, if
it's done properly, if it is done properly, that's the
that's the issue. That it's done properly, our children will
be better prepared for higher level math and entry into
stem STEM careers and you know, even business, and also
just to be able to generally just understand the world better,

(01:01:50):
you know, and solve problems that you know at a
different level.

Speaker 16 (01:01:54):
Can let me tell me here for a second, answer
this question a question though? Why do you think because
you know, the math scores, the reading scores are out
and it seems that our children of reading and doing
math below the level. What's the problem here? Is it
the school system? Is it the teachers? Is that our
children do they need a new technique to teach our children?

(01:02:15):
What's going on here?

Speaker 14 (01:02:17):
Well, there are several factors. I mean, the things that
you mentioned are definitely contributing factors. There are a lot
of reasons why, you know, our children do poorly, and
the main reason why our children do poorly. Is that
in order for this society to function the way it does,
our children have to do poorly.

Speaker 17 (01:02:35):
Right.

Speaker 14 (01:02:35):
It's similar to what Amos Wilson would often say, you know,
in his lectures and in his writing, in order for
the society to function, Black people must be crazy, we
must be out of our minds.

Speaker 6 (01:02:47):
Right.

Speaker 14 (01:02:47):
So we're actually programmed and conditioned to be out of
our minds. And part of our conditioning is for us
to be mathematically illiterate, you know, especially, and to be
fearful of mathematics and to want to run away for mathematics,
and to actually buy into the propaganda that math is
irrelevant and math is useless and that we can't use
it and we don't need it, or we can just

(01:03:09):
you know, we don't need to learn it because we
have a calculator that can do everything, or we have
a chat GPT program that can you know, answer all
the questions for us, right, that isn't that isn't Those
are examples of us being out of our minds. So
so yes, you know, the schools could I think with
different resources, I think with different instructional strategies, you know,

(01:03:33):
schools could do things differently, parents could do things differently.
A lot of people in the community, such as myself,
we could do things differently and do more, you know,
than what we're doing.

Speaker 16 (01:03:42):
Right, But you know me and jumping here again just
because what you said is is really profound though, but
there seems to be uh effects on our community and
not really stepping up what you just said is like
I said, it's profound. I mean they're doing this deliberately,
that's what you're saying, creating, uh, creating a set of
people who just don't understand, can't read, can't can't communicate,

(01:04:06):
can't to to math. It's a deliberate task, that's what
you say that they're doing. But many of our people
don't believe that. They just how do you get people
to understand that this is this is not by accident,
you know, this is not that this is this is
orchestrated and if you can explain the reasoning behind.

Speaker 14 (01:04:25):
It, you get people to believe it. Finally by you know,
doing the same thing that has gotten them to not
believe it, which is consistent propaganda, consistent positive propaganda. More
conversations about mathematics in the black community. More positive conversations
about mathematics in the black community because and we are

(01:04:46):
at some point, you know, people have to get over
this like psychosis, you know, and where they believe that
you know, like I mentioned math is irrelevant and you know,
math is useless. They got to we gotta get over that,
you know. We gotta also let people see that, you know,
there are a lot of things that people participate in,
a lot of activities that are much more difficult than
the algebra one class that they had to take in

(01:05:08):
high school, right, but that they're able to thrive in,
you know. But somehow mathematics has this stigma attached to
it where it makes so many people feel like, well,
I can't do this, or I can never do this,
or you know. And also we got to keep in
mind that like when you're first introduced to something, it's

(01:05:29):
supposed to be difficult. It's not supposed to be easily
done or easily fully understood immediately, right, It takes practice.

Speaker 4 (01:05:36):
Right.

Speaker 14 (01:05:37):
But somehow when it comes to mathematics, we don't apply
that that basic logic to that, right, And that comes
from propaganda, from negative propaganda, right, which is meant to
keep us away. Because what happens is it's a way
to ensure a lack of participation in certain areas of labor.

(01:05:58):
We talk about we could just talk about the STEM
disciplines and the STEM fields science, technology, engineering, mathematics, you know,
medicine of course included within that. The moment that your
child says math is too hard, I don't like math,
they immediately disqualified themselves from any of those fields.

Speaker 16 (01:06:19):
It's immediately done that, right and hold I thought right there, Brotherkle.
I'll let you finish your thought when you come back, though,
tell us, how do you can you compete with a
new way of doing math? Because people just go on
and ask theory or somebody else AI ask the question,
you know, put in the what the question is and
they get to answer right away. How are you going
to compete with with AI and the internet? These things? Family,

(01:06:40):
you want to join this conversation with our math through.

Speaker 9 (01:06:42):
Brother i Q.

Speaker 16 (01:06:43):
Reach out to us at eight hundred four five zero
seventy eight seven six and we'll take your phone calls next.

Speaker 7 (01:06:52):

Speaker 16 (01:07:16):
And Grand Rising Family. I thanks you starting your Tuesday.
Let's it's twenty one minutes after the top of that.
I guess at killed Parker is a math guru, and
brother Kill, I'm gonna let you finish your thought then
explain to the audience, because you know, just as like
most folks when they have a problem or do recesses,
go straight to the internet and get it solved automatically.
How are you going to compete with that after you

(01:07:37):
finished telling us your thought.

Speaker 14 (01:07:40):
Well, I'm not saying that we shouldn't be able to
go to the Internet and finances or even use those
tools at all. But what's happening is a lot of
people are sacrificing the process of learning how to solve
problems on their own right, using their own brains and
their own processes, and instead just saying, Okay, I'm gonna
lie out of the computer to have all the control

(01:08:03):
and have a computer do all of that work for me.
It's different when you're using the computer program or using
the artificial intelligence as an option out of convenience versus
it's not really an option. It's the only way you
know how to find how to find it out right,
how to find something out that's a very different thing.
And what happens is and you know, with this generation

(01:08:25):
of children that is kind of native to artificial intelligence.
They're never there. They're not learning how to utilize their brains,
utilize their cognitive ability to figure things out. There's this
sacrifice of critical thinking ability, long term critical thinking ability,
which is very important because when we look at you know,

(01:08:46):
the political decisions that people make, when we look at
the decisions about you know, what politicians people support, you know,
what type of foods people eat, what type of lifestyle
people live. A lot of that is due to a
lack of critical thinking. Like a lot of people just
do stupid things, right, because they don't know how to
think right. And we also have to keep in mind

(01:09:08):
the fact that right, this is American, you know, and
under this you know, socioeconomic monopoly, capitalistic system, this system
is able to thrive more with people being stupider. Right,
we live in idiocracy, if anybody's familiar with that movie ideocracy.

Speaker 6 (01:09:26):
Right.

Speaker 14 (01:09:27):
So in order for that to that to survive and
that to persist, what has to happen is people have
to be dumber. So when we open our eyes and
realize this, we shouldn't be, you know, depriving ourselves of
opportunities to develop our intelligence, to develop our critical thinking ability,
to develop develop our analytical reason in favor of saying, well,

(01:09:47):
I just want to take the easy way out, because
that has its consequences. I mean, and if we're if
we're we open our eyes and look around us, we
see the constant. We can see the consequences of that,
of years of that, right right or among us. So
so yeah, so you know, yeah, sure you could just
go onl and you know, ask Siri for the an soil,
you could ask Alexa for the an so you could,

(01:10:08):
you could do that. But what happens is when that
becomes the norm, then what like the brain, I gotta
tell students the soul the time, Like the brain is
similar to a muscle and that if it's not used,
it will atrophy. So oftentimes we're like, well, I just
want the answer, you know, I don't really want to
know how to do it.

Speaker 6 (01:10:23):
I just want to answer.

Speaker 14 (01:10:25):
That's a lifestyle choice, right, you're making yourself, you know,
you know, you're succumbing to this desire to you know,
take the easy way out, which leads to people just
being dumb. So this visa the direct and honest conversations
that we have to have with people, and we have
to have with our children and let people know like, look,

(01:10:46):
you can do it. You can do whatever you want.
That's the thing about life, right, we were free to
do whatever we want, but we will never be free
of the consequences. It will always be consequences. So if
you want to always take the easy way out and
always use the technology, it's going to dumb you down.
Like I said, idiocricy, this is what this is what
we're living in, and this is why we This is
a large contributed factor to why we have the problems

(01:11:08):
that we have. And mathematics is a is a is
a class, is a course, is a discipline that will
constantly give you opportunities to develop your intelligence, to develop
your critical thinking ability, to develop your analytical reasoning ability,
develop your problem solving ability. It's much deeper than why
equals MX plus B. It's much deeper than solving an

(01:11:29):
equation with exis and wise and plus signs and minor
science and exponents. It's much deeper than that. What you're
actually doing is practicing thinking. So that way, when you
get out into the world, even outside of the classroom,
you're able to navigate the world in a very different way.
And those of us that have excelled in math and
have you know, you know, uh, you know, be developed

(01:11:50):
proficiency in mathematics. We can attest to this, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
Unfortunately twenty five after top because you're absolutely right, and
I'll share to everything that you just said before. For
the parents are listening to us now and the children
are getting ready to you know, school starts for some
in a couple of weeks. School has started in some
districts already for me when we're going to school school
and it starts to laughter labor there. But things have
changed now. It depends on which where in the country

(01:12:15):
you are before the school starts. You're in Philadelphia, so, uh,
the school, how do you determine the how far or
how much you need to improve your math skills need
to improve? Because usually we rely on these standardized tests,
and we know these standardized tests are not made for
us as a people. They made for the other folks.
How do we get around that? Brother a kiel Well,

(01:12:38):
I think.

Speaker 14 (01:12:39):
Even even though they may not be you know, made
for us per se, and they may be culturally irrelevant
to us, I think we still need to know how
to do the mathematics that is in the standardized test.
I think the standardized tests are a good starting point, right,
And so I think and also with every just about
every I'm not sure of every state, but with many states,
the state standardized test that is you to we can

(01:13:01):
go online, right, we can go online. We can do
online research and you know, find the actual standardized test
and find previously offered problems or sample problems right for
that standardized test. And this is something that is going
to represent a huge paradigm shift in our community. But
this is something that will be that should be mandatory,
is that we as parents, grandparents, uncles, aunts, concerned citizens,

(01:13:26):
you know, the same people that are concerned about, you know,
gun violence among the children. The children, you know, shooting
up block parties and shooting up you know, at rec
centers and whatnot. We're so concerned about that. A large
part of the reason that the children are doing that
is because of a lack of critical thinking ability, a
lack of analytical reason and ability, a lack of a
concern for their own future in the future of others.

(01:13:49):
What happens with you know, mathematics, you're thinking more differently, right,
And also you're like, oh, well, you know, why would
I involve myself in this type of activity. When I
have a future, I have some options, I have some
serious options where that I may not want to jeopardize.
So I'm not going to be involved in this type
of nefarious activity.

Speaker 6 (01:14:08):
Right.

Speaker 14 (01:14:08):
So those of us that those of us that are
adults that are concerned about that, we need to tap
into these online resources these okay, the standardized test questions
from twenty twenty three, the standardized test questions from school
year twenty twenty four, twenty two, and whatnot, and really
sit down and look at how difficult and challenging some
of these questions are and learn how to do them

(01:14:29):
for ourselves and then expose our children to them and
then say, okay, make this an activity in our household. Now,
I understand some people have a lack of time. They
have to work. They may work three jobs or two jobs. Well,
we got to figure we got to figure that out.
You got to figure out how to be able to
with the time you do have available make that happen.

(01:14:49):
So I think the standardized tests are an excellent starting
point where we need to go and look at what
our children are tasked with doing. Because, as I said,
a lot of these problems are not easy. A lot
of these problems. The same adults that are you know,
complaining about the youth and saying, oh the youth is
and youth theyll to see these standardized test scores like
less than one percent of the students score proficient. Well,

(01:15:12):
a lot of those same adults that are not scored
proficient themselves. You should look at these questions. You should
look at these questions, and you know, it would be
very difficult for a lot of us to answer these
questions correctly. But that's where also those people such as
myself have to provide the resources so that those concerned
parents can learn and understand how to solve these problems.

(01:15:34):
So then they in turn to then help their own
children with understanding how to solve these problems when they're
confronted with them in school when the standardized tests are administered.
And this again I understand, this represents a huge paradox
ship because they no parents out here like actually going online,
well I say no, I mean advanced majority are not

(01:15:54):
going online looking up the standardized test that their children
are going to take and making sure that they know
how to do these problems. But even if that has
not been done, that is what needs to happen. We
have to do this. We have to do this.

Speaker 2 (01:16:09):
Gotcha the top. The brother Gene is joining us from
Baltimore's online one. Grand Rising Junior on with brother Akil.

Speaker 18 (01:16:18):
Good morning, everybody. I'm sorry grand robbing everybody. Yeah, sir,
this is a peptive with me. According to doctor Kys Whitehead,
who's on most state universities, he gave a number of
seventy six percent of the children in Baltimore who are
deficient in arithmetic, mathematics and reading.

Speaker 19 (01:16:38):
So and I come from.

Speaker 18 (01:16:40):
This legacy in Baltimore of remedial teaching of arithmetic, right
and so, But well, how I learned arithmetic was in
a one room schoolhouse in Catonsville bad It is the
is the concept of the bundle, right ten. So when
I've heard little three year old two year old girls

(01:17:02):
could count to ten or twenty or even make some
of them four years over count to one hundred by
the time you get the kidney garden, if you don't
understand that, the concept of bundling, then you're going to
be lost in the source. When you get in the
first grade, the component parts of addition, you know to
add in the equal sign in the thumb. If you

(01:17:26):
can't learn the other component parts, the dividend, the divisor
and the difference, etc. You can't do word problems. This
is because me, this was the problem. But this is
what I taught my son who is now programmer, analyst
and right cool. All the mathematical formulas are in the

(01:17:46):
memory of the computer, so you don't know, you don't
have to learn how to do it. But the discipline
of learning how to do it and memorizing is the
loss art in arithmetic. From my perspective.

Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
All right, scheme a chance to respond. Thanks, Jane brother Kill.

Speaker 14 (01:18:04):
So I agree with what you're saying, and I think
that what we have to do when we recognize this
data and these statistics that you said, doctor Whitehead present
seventy six percent of children are deficient in mathematics, Like,
we got to get out there and teach the kids mathematics.
We got to go find that seventy six percent, right,
because you know that's seventy six percent is some kid

(01:18:25):
on your block, some kid on your block, it's part
of that seventy six percent. So we got to figure
out as a community as people like, Okay, let's make
some time to sit down with some kids and teach
the math. That's especially those of us that you know,
purport to be revolution every that's a revolution. Everything like
taking time out of our schedule, and even if it's
beyond your own household, your own children, grandchildren, nieces and nephews,

(01:18:47):
we gotta like to sit down with them and teach
them the math. Part of the reason at the major
part of the reason that again I said earlier, I
create resources for the community. I wrote my book how
to use all this math to help parents be able
to prepare their children. Also maintain this YouTube channel. It's
free resource, which is one of the best YouTube channels
available for math support. Right, you get to see a

(01:19:09):
black man teaching math, bringing things down step by step. Right,
and the way that you know kind of academy is
not doing. Don't teach like me. I'm different. Right, those
arithmetic skills where he was mentioned in bundling and you
know plate that gets into place value, place value, you know,
understanding like groups of ten, you know, and then that
gets into okay, how do we multiply it by ten?

(01:19:30):
How do you multiply bio hundreds?

Speaker 20 (01:19:32):
You know, factors?

Speaker 14 (01:19:32):
How do we scale up and all that that gets
all all that I talk about all those things on
my YouTube channel. So I'm gonna I'm gonna continuously plug
this channel because I know if as a community we
use use to all this math YouTube channel on a
regular basis, these math deficiencies wouldn't exist. That's seventy six
percent that he mentioned would not exist if my channel

(01:19:53):
was utilized on a regular basis and not just my channel.
But there's some other channels too, right, but my channel
definitely the seventy six not existing. Part of the reason
that we're the major reason also that we're the Vision
and Math is because we don't do math. We're not
doing math where we have a fear that's been instilled
in us of math, and we allow for our children
to only be exposed to mathematics for maybe an hour,

(01:20:16):
maybe forty five minutes in a school day, and then
after that they're not talking about math. Then I have
a mathematical conversation. So that's another thing that we have
to start doing. And one of the things I talk
about on some of my social media content when I
do reals with my youngest son, Kwame, who's six, I
talk to parents about doing this and say, look, the
regular general conversations that you're already having with your children,

(01:20:39):
those need to be converted into mathematical conversations. Right, your
child asks you for some candy, Okay, give them three
pieces of candy. Maybe two of the pieces of candy
are green, one is blue. Then instead of saying, here,
take these three pieces of candy, that could be a
mathematical conversation, because then you can talk to them about
what fraction of your candy is green? Oh, two pieces
of green. You got three pieces of it together, That

(01:21:00):
means two thirds of it. Candy is grained. Little simple
things like that, Just little basic, simple things like that.
When that becomes the norm in our community, then our
children won't be scared of fractions. There are thousands of
thousands of thousands of kids and the black men that
are scared to death of fractions don't like fractions. Why
because they don't understand them, and they when they got
to school and somebody attempted to teach it to them,

(01:21:22):
maybe the teacher didn't have the best instructional strategy for
that student. But those conversations are happening in the household
from an early age, way before they even see it
in the curriculum, then things are very different. Things are
definitely going to be very different. Our children aren't scared
to play video games because they're comfortable playing video games
because they have a lot of practice with video games
at home in safe environments. So if they had to

(01:21:45):
go to school and play video games, they would excel
in school in a video game class, right or when
it's you know, the end of the school year, kids
are allowed to, you know, bring their video game system
into the school and just play video games. There's no
anxiety there, right, because they're doing it at home when
they're practicing on a regular basis. We have to do
that with mathematics. We're not doing that with mathematics not enough.

(01:22:05):
We're not talking to our kids about percentages. We have
to do that more, right, And again this is the critique.
But then also there's resources available so that people can
do actually learn and understand how to do the things
that I'm advocating that we must do all right, So
definitely check out the YouTube channel, check out the book
how to use all this math ballume one that's available

(01:22:27):
on Amazon as well.

Speaker 2 (01:22:30):
And we're going to give out all this information before
brother a kid lace and one of the reasons why
we're doing this, family is because the Internet has made
the world so much smaller. Now our children are competing
with children all over the world, and just think about that.
They're our future. What's our future going to be like
if we don't understand how to compute or we just
go to the internet, get lazy, don't understand, you know,

(01:22:51):
as a brother Kill mentioned, this creates critical thinking. Just
think about when you're trying to resolve, you know, a complex.
They don't have to become it even a simple mathematic term.
You got to think and this this makes you, This
helps you, you know, create critical thinking. And you can
use this skill in other areas as well. This is
what brother Kill is saying. But listen, we got to

(01:23:13):
stop and check the news in our different cities. And
Thomas in Baltimore wants to join the conversation. You two
can do the same. Light Thomas reach out to us
at eight hundred four or five zero seventy eight seventy six.
I don't take your phone calls after the news update.

Speaker 6 (01:23:24):
That's next.

Speaker 7 (01:23:30):

Speaker 2 (01:23:53):
Grand Rising Family, Thanks for rolling with us on this
Tuesday morning, sixteen minutes away from the top of that
with our guest, the math guru, Brother Parker. Brother Kill
is trying to get our students, children, and all of
us as a matter of fact, involved, the more engaged
in mathematics, and school's about to open. This is why
we're doing this program. School's actually opening some districts already.

(01:24:14):
Before we go back to it, now, listen reminds you
coming up Momentelli. Later this morning, we're gonna speak with
the President General of the Universal of African People's Organization. I'll
be one Zaki Burruti. Saki is going to reflect on
Black August, special emphasis on Marcus Garvey. He's also going
to talk about Donald Trump's feralization of Washington, DC. Before
we reach from Brother Zaki community, the activist Ron Moten

(01:24:35):
in the district was going to respond to Trump's decision
and Mayor Browse's response to the federal government take over
the district. And later this week you're gonna hear from
the University of Houston's doctor Gerald Horn, also a futuristic reacharcher.
Brother Sidiki and Bakari will give us the latest information
on AI artificial intelligence. So if you are in Baltimore,
make sure you keep you ready to tune to ten
ten WLB or if you're in the DMV run FM

(01:24:56):
ninety five point nine and AM fourteen fifty WL so
mention before we left for the news update, Thomas is
calling this from Baltimore. He's online one grand Rising, Thomas,
your only brother, kill grand rising, My.

Speaker 14 (01:25:08):
Dear brothers, how you guys doing this morning?

Speaker 9 (01:25:11):
Great greedy listen, brother Jean that called in earlier, that's
my good brother.

Speaker 14 (01:25:18):
He's very good.

Speaker 9 (01:25:20):
At doing his researchers on things. But I know he
was talking about kay Wise white Head. How she said
that seventy seventy percent of the kids in Baltimore, you know,
is blacking or deficient in math. Guys, I have to
beg the difference with that.

Speaker 6 (01:25:35):
Okay.

Speaker 9 (01:25:36):
If she's getting her numbers from, it's from two groups. Okay,
it's a group called Useless, and she's also getting her
information from a group called Roker. Both of these groups
have been paid millions of dollars in Baltimore to do
a study on black men and black kids. Okay, guys,

(01:25:58):
the city is paying damn every teen million dollars a
year to do studies on us. Okay, we got some
of the most We got some of the most intelligent
Black people, such as you too, gentlemen. You know, why
can't you guys get into some of that money to
help us. We know you guys are concerned about us,

(01:26:19):
these other groups coming in making mad cash off of us.
And I'll take you here response. Take my response off
to here and listen to you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:26:29):
All right, brother kill Let me just add this to
what Thomas just told us. The school district contacting you,
especially once they're controlled by people who look like me
and you are, they contact you to help our children
with math.

Speaker 14 (01:26:43):
So I will say this, I will say, and the
brothers you know calling her from Baltimore, and Baltimore is
actually where I was raised. I am a vendor with
Baltimore City Public Schools, and I do have partnerships with
several elementary schools and middle schools in the area. And
you know, my goal for this school is to increase
the number of partnerships I had. So I've been slowly

(01:27:04):
and steadily, you know, getting my kind of foot in
the door basically with Baltimore City Schools, with offering different
types of services, parent workshops. You know, I've paid at
different math nights. I'm actually going to be in Baltimore
this week, you know, doing some works as a vendor
at you know, the block parties that they offer that

(01:27:25):
lead up to the first day of school, which is
August the twenty fifth. So so yeah, I mean it's
it's it's a slow process, but you know it's you know,
we're making we're making headway, you know. But again, but
I do, I do think that, you know, we have
to as a community start to figure out ways efficient
and effective ways to supplement what the schools are doing.

(01:27:47):
I again, I talked about paradigm shift earlier. Another major
paradigm shift is that school has to become a secondary
place of learning and not a primary place of learning.
School should be a space for practice. I say that
school should be a space for practice because at the
end of the day, we don't control even Baltimore City
public schools. We don't control school district of Philadelphia. You

(01:28:07):
don't control you know, the school districts. Where in the
city is where we live. So the best thing we
can do is and what a mana jamil Ala mean,
you know, shout out to him. Political prisoner formerly known
as h Rap Brown Well he said. One of the
things he said that I'll never forget is any institution
that you don't control can be weaponized against you. And
in many ways, these school districts are weaponized against us.

(01:28:30):
So what we have to do is we have to
figure out a way for the community, the block, the neighborhood,
the corner to be the place where children can learn
the arithmetic, where children can learn the trigonometry, where children
can learn the calculus. And then when they go into school,
if they're going to if they're going to a school
and they're not home school, then it's like, okay, well
I'm gonna I'm here to practice the skills that my

(01:28:50):
community taught me, because like I learned a lot of
things in my community. I mean, if we're being honest,
a lot of kids kids learn how to sell kids
are selling drugs. They learn how to sell drugs in
their community, right, and then they may go other places
and do that. Why can't we do the same thing
with mathematics, right, we can. We just have to have
the will to do it, and you know, and see

(01:29:10):
the vision and see the validity of it. But you know,
to to its point, there's always gonna be we're always
going to be like you know, the guinea pigs or
you know the BF skinner, you know lab lab rats,
you know, for for somebody, for some some white organization. Right,
it's it's always going to be the case under the
under the current structure of the United States, and and

(01:29:33):
and the way things are. My my my suggestion and
my belief in terms of how we can circumvent that
is start to take more more control over the education
of our children. But resources have to be provided, resources
have to be provided, and it also has to be
propagandas because these are different ideas, right, many of us
have been socialized totally differently, and this is a major

(01:29:54):
problem in terms of social engineering and our socialization process.
Many of us have been so socialized to outsource the
responsibility of education completely to the schools. So when people
complain about the lack of prinsal involvement, what we have
to understand is that this lack of prinsal involvement is
something that we've been taught to do. So we're actually

(01:30:16):
doing what we've been told and doing what we've been taught.
Now I'm here to say that what we've been taught
was wrong. It's it's similar to it's a form of miseducation,
like Carter G. Wison wrote about in The Miseducation of
the Negro. It's a form of miseducation to think that
we should totally outsource that the teaching of mathematics to
our children. That's a problem, right, But we're doing We've

(01:30:36):
been taught. We just have to figure out ways to
undo the damage and unlearn some of these things. And
then you know, take take pride and you know, in
the in the process of you know, being the primary
math educators for our children, we have to do these things.

Speaker 4 (01:30:52):
Right.

Speaker 14 (01:30:52):
This is like a non negotiable. This can't be something
that's extra curricular, I know what. You know, at times
in the past, you know, you had certain parents that
are just you know, more active and more involved, right,
and that was an option whereas the majority of parents weren't.
Well Now with the way and we see what's going
on around us. We see what's going on on the
political landscape, right on the environmental landscape, on the economic landscape,

(01:31:16):
we see what's going on around us. Right, we have
to understand mathematics. We have to be able to think
more mathematically. Part of the reason that these things that
have been happening right on the political and economic landscape
is because we have a lack of understanding of these
things well in advance of them happening, and it's due
to a lack of critical thinking ability. If we were

(01:31:37):
able to think more critically and be able to see
what's going to happen and be able to see essentially
forecast the future better because we have more analytical reasoning
skills and more critical thinking skills which come from the
same mathematics practice that people say is irrelevant. People say,
you don't need that. Then we wouldn't be in the
condition that we're in now, we wouldn't be in this situation.

(01:31:58):
So you see this as the type of trick bag
these people have us in. You convent, you get people
to believe in and buy into this I did, and
math is irrelevant. You don't need math, you don't need
to know that you're never going to use it. And
because you bought into that, now the political landscape looks
the way it does, the economic landscape looks the way
it does. All the stuff that people constantly of talking

(01:32:19):
about and complaining about with Donald Trump, this and Donald
Trump that this could have been prevented, and there were
many of us that did have critical thinking ability that
saw this happening not only twenty years ago, thirty years ago.
Because we were able to think mathematically. We understand the equation,
We see what the variables are, and we know what
the outcome is going to be because we because we

(01:32:40):
fortunately were taught that math is relevant and math is important.
Mathematics is the way.

Speaker 2 (01:32:45):
Let me tell me and ask you this question, though,
brother Cale, since we're on that note, that Donald Trump
his administration has shown signals that they don't care about education.
In fact, they want to scrap it the Federal Education
Department and send it back to the States to over
see education. States rights and those view of a certain age.
You know what what that means when they say states rights? Uh,

(01:33:05):
how do how do we as parents handle that? Since
we know that they're not they're not going to make
education a priority from going on going forward to with
this administration, what do we do? What's our move?

Speaker 14 (01:33:19):
We should be motivated, first and foremost, we should be
very motivated. There's no time for doom and gloom and
whate was me and crime and all that. There's no
time for that. We should be motivated because now we
have to do it. So even when there's you know,
democratic leadership, we should have we should have still wanted
to be more proactive about the education of our children.
We still have still wanted to be, you know, the

(01:33:39):
primary educators. But the problem with that with you know,
with that type of leadership, with the Democratic leadership is like, no,
don't worry about it, we'll educate your children for you,
which is still problematic because that's still somebody else educating
your children. Now with this this leadership, the Republican leadership
is like, we don't want you to be educated at all.
They're very honest and direct with so that should be

(01:34:02):
the motivation for us to, as I say, become the
primary educators. We have to do it, Like I want
people to understand the seriousness in my voice. We have
to do this. This is long overdue, right, it's long overdue.
We have to do it. So as parents, that lets
you know, right though, you never know what these people
are gonna do. They may tell you like, Okay, we're

(01:34:22):
gonna you know what, y'all been complaining about mathematics for
so long, y'all been saying that algebra two is irrelevant.
What do you need statistics for it? How about this,
how about we taking out of the curriculum. How about
we pass laws and we put apply pressure so that
school districts in different states will pass laws so that
we're just removing from the curriculum. Or how about this,
we're removing from from the curriculum and your children's schools.
But yet the kids and the white kids in the

(01:34:44):
suburbs or you know, the more affluent neighborhoods, they're still
gonna be taking that. And then you're gonna see, oh okay,
and hopefully you'll wake up and see, oh wow, maybe
this is something that we need because they're taking it
away from us now, you know. But I I mean
that it's available, right, But if it's not being sought properly,

(01:35:04):
then it's almost as if it's not available. There's so
many children go to school every day and sit in
math classes and are not learning math for various reasons.
One reason is that mathematics is a very cumulative subject,
meaning if you didn't understand the content from the previous year.
I'll give you a good, great example of geometry. If
you're in tenth grade in a geometry class, but you

(01:35:26):
didn't understand algebra one and how to solve multi stuff
equations in the year before and ninth grade, you're gonna
fail geometry. Even if you understand the concept of the
relationship between the shapes and the angles and the sides
and all that. Even if you get that, you won't
be able to solve the problems that you're presented with
because in a geometry class, the expectation is that you

(01:35:46):
have the prerequisite skill of knowing how to solve equations.
And then a lot of children cancel equations. Why because
they will weak in arithmetic and they don't understand how
to add and subtract positive and negative numbers, a multiply
and divide positive and negative number. And part of that
is due to a lack of practice, but more importantly
is due to them buying into this belief that this

(01:36:07):
is irrelevant. I don't need and I don't need this,
which is a scam. It is a scam that American
society has played on has enacted on us to keep
us away from being able to number one problem solved
and be problem solvers.

Speaker 6 (01:36:21):
Right.

Speaker 14 (01:36:21):
Because again, another thing Amos Wilson said was the problems
of the black community representing multi billion dollar industry. So
what happens when we become the people that can recognize
our problems and then solve our problems on our own,
that industry dissipetes and all that profits. And that's a prophecy,
right that.

Speaker 2 (01:36:36):
Thought right there, brother Key. I'll let you expound on
that when we get back. We got to check the
traffic and weather in different cities. Also, you mentioned social promotion.
I want you to talk about that too, because many
of our children were functioning literate once they graduated from
high school. How do we deal with that? Family? You
want to join this conversation with our guest. He's a
math gurer. His name is a kill brother Kill Parker.
Reach out to us eight hundred four or five zero

(01:36:57):
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Speaker 7 (01:37:05):
You're frocking with the most submiss the Carl Nelson Show.

Speaker 10 (01:37:10):
You're fucking with the most submissive.

Speaker 2 (01:37:36):
Grand Rising family. Thanks for sticking with us on this
Tuesday morning. I guesst his brother Akaile Poker. We call
him the math Guru. School's getting ready to open, reopen,
I should say. After the summer, and we got to
find out how can we help our children compete because
now the competition, the playing field has changed. Back in
the day, we're just competed with with other students here

(01:37:56):
in this country. Now the Internet has made the world smaller,
so our children are going to be competing with with
students across across the planet, all across the globe. And
we've seen what this current administration feels about education. And
we've been beyond the eight ball for quite some time.
And the question I asked, brother Akhil, I'll let you
finish your thought what you were saying, but address the
issue of social promotion. You know, so many times, brother Akil,

(01:38:19):
our students graduate from school they can't do math and
they can't even read functionally. How do we deal with that?

Speaker 14 (01:38:26):
We got to teach those brothers and sisters. We got
to figure out ways to teach them. We got to
do the uncomfortable works of making sure that they understand.
We understand arithmetic right to a certain level. Because again,
I think that's one thing that we take for granted.
We think that a lot of adults have a proficiency
of basic arithmetic, which many of us do not. Even

(01:38:50):
some mathematics teachers do not you know, surprisingly and algebra
right and also reading, So reading is so reading and
have maticical hand in hand. And I want to caution
people to not again put themselves in another trick bag,
which is this whole idea that I'm either a reading
person or a math person. In order to be a

(01:39:11):
so called math person, you have to be a reading
person because and again when we talk about standardized testing,
the issue the challenges with the standardized testing is not
only the basic the fundamental math skills. It is the reading.
It is the word problems, it is the interpretation of
reading passages. The days of okay, number one, solve three

(01:39:33):
X plus two equals twelve, solve for x. You rarely
will see a question and straightforward like that or what
we call like naked where naked equations right barely, you
rarely will see that. You'll see a whole paragraph though
with information in it about a scenario or a narrative
which requires you to read, understand, comprehend, interpret, decode it,

(01:39:55):
and then translate that paragraph into an equation and then
solve the equation and then answer the question and complete sentest.
You'll see that. So in order to do that effectively.
You have to be you have to know how to read,
you have to read and comprehension, and these are skills
they just have to be taught. So even if somebody
is being socially promoted, again, that again puts the onus

(01:40:16):
on the community because the schools just gonna push them through.
So the school's gonna push them through, but then they
don't have the requisite skills to function as a productive
member of society. Then what's gonna happen. If the community
don't teach, don't teach the people, then what's going to happen?
And again, I'm gonna plug my YouTube channel because this
is why I made the YouTube channel. I made the
YouTube channel as a solution. There are plenty of people

(01:40:38):
that are very skilled at identifying problems, and it's important
in the scientific process. It is important to identify problem, right,
That's part of the scientific method. However, at some point
we have to cut We have to take the data
and take our observations and come up with a solution
to the problem. So one of my solutions is offer

(01:40:58):
a offer resource, one of which Okay, the kids on YouTube,
the kids on their phones, the kids on their tablets,
and whatnot. Okay, cool, parents on their laptops, parents on
their tablets, parents on their phones. You can go to
this YouTube channel. It's a free resource, right, plenty plenty
of content on it. Organize it into different playlists. So
I think I think that's something that we could do

(01:41:18):
if I have, If I have the opportunity, I'd like
to give some also specific steps for parents, whether the
school year has already started for you or the school
year has not yet started yet, if I if I could,
let me let me know, if I can, go.

Speaker 2 (01:41:30):
Ahead, go ahead and do it real quick for us,
because we got that ron non deck. We're gonna talk
about Washington, DC. But go ahead real quick.

Speaker 14 (01:41:37):
So Number one number one, parents, make sure that you
introduce yourself to your child's math teacher, whether it be
via email, be a via telephone, be a class Dojo
message or parent Square or whatever learning man or whatever
communication system the school utilizes. Right, make sure your child's
math teacher knows who you are, Know what's your name,
has your email addressed. Don't wait for them to contact you,

(01:41:59):
You contact them all right. Number one Number two, find
out what your child's standardized test scores from the twenty
twenty four to twenty twenty five school year was you know,
for math and actually go back even further, you know,
so you can see a trend or see what the
trend is in terms of their performance. And also a
lot of that data is going to look complicated, it's
going to look confusing. We have to learn how to

(01:42:21):
interpret that data. And if it does look confusing, I
would even ask the school, Okay, is there a way
that is there will there be an opportunity for me
to come into the school and have somebody explain this
data to me because a lot of parents don't understand
the data. And I'll even say this, a lot of
teachers don't understand the data. A lot of principals don't
understand the data. They don't know how to read that information.
Because a lot of people that are teachers and principals

(01:42:42):
are also scared of mathematics because they bought into the
hype and drunk that kool aid for many years. Right,
but they're still in charge though, Right. Another thing, find
out what the math standards are for your child's grade
on the scope and sequence for the school year. What's
the scope and sequence? The scope is? Okay, these are
all the all the topics that we're going to cover
this school. So if your child's going to the fourth grade, okay,

(01:43:04):
fourth grade, this is what we're doing. First quarter, it's
what we're doing. Second quarter is what we do a
third or fourth quarter. This is our goal. So you
know what your child is expected to know how to
do by the end of the year. Right, that's important
for you to know, all right. Find out what curriculum
the school is using. Curriculum is big business. In Baltimore.
They're going to a curriculum called Reveal. Right in Philly,
what is it?

Speaker 4 (01:43:24):
What is it?

Speaker 14 (01:43:24):
Philly Illustrative Mathematics? Right in Philly. Different cities, different school
districts have different curriculums. Make sure you know what these curricula,
these curricula are, all right, familiarize yourself with the curriculum
and also a lot of the curricular curricula have parent
resources on their website right for you to be able
to understand better. Also, do not, I repeat, do not

(01:43:46):
wait to get your child math tutoring. You know your kids,
you know your kids need math tutoring. Don't wait until
after the first quarter and they already failed the first quarter, right,
get them math tutoring. If you have the financial resources,
get them math tutor immediately before the school he even starts.
Just give them the math tutoring. We also offer math tutoring,
and if not my company, there have any other companies

(01:44:08):
that offer math tutoring. But get your kids the math
to and parents unfortunately like to play these games like,
well we'll just we'll have a wait and see approach.
You can't wait and see. You already know your child
is gonna need tutor. And actually, here's another thing. Even
students that excelling math still benefit from tutoring. Tutoring is
not a punishment. Tutoring is like a star athlete on
a basketball team. They go to practice, right, and you

(01:44:31):
know they play for a team, but then they work
out with somebody else, right to get themselves to sharpen
their game, make their game even better. Tutor is not
for dumb people. It's not for you know, it's not
a punishment, right. Keep that in mind if you can't
afford tutoring. This is another reason why I started the
All This Math YouTube channel. It's a free resource. Everybody
can't afford, doesn't have a financial resources for tutoring. You

(01:44:53):
can you can look at.

Speaker 2 (01:44:55):
Detail and and give us half Folks can get in
touch with you because you're gonna have you come back
maye ron later that you're in this semester. Because we
didn't get to a lot of topics. Did you want
to talk about hystematics? We wonder what it is all about?
So just give us your your uh, just give us
how folks can reach you, and then we'll leave it

(01:45:15):
right there and then we'll pick it up the next time.

Speaker 14 (01:45:17):
Okay, Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, All this math, All this math.
Also the company website is all thismath dot com. And
of course definitely go to the YouTube channel like and
subscribe and share. The YouTube channel is also all this math.
Everything is all this math. You know, use use the
resources that are available, and also the book how to

(01:45:38):
Use All This Math, Volume one is available on Amazon.
I highly recommend you know you buy a copy of
that book and use it. Don't just buy it out
of support because I sound like I might know what
I'm talking about. Actually use the book, read it, use
it on a regular basis with your children. It'll make
a huge difference.

Speaker 2 (01:45:56):
Thanks thanks her Kil and thank you for looking at
it for our children man. Thank you all right, right,
thank you, sir ten A Halfter the top of community
Actress Ron Motens join us from Washington d c Ron
Grant Rising, Welcome back to the program.

Speaker 9 (01:46:11):
How you going, Thanks for having me.

Speaker 2 (01:46:14):
I'm still learning Ron. Your reaction after yesterday's a news
conference with the president and the mayor. What are your
reactions from both of those events.

Speaker 9 (01:46:26):
Well, it's tragic because what we know is one thing
can lead to another. You know, I was watching Fox
News Local and they had a poll of people who
were saying whether they thought it was a good idea

(01:46:46):
or a bad idea, and I think it was like
seventy between the people said, you know, why not? You
know what I'm saying, And that's a slip freek slope,
you know what I'm saying, because you can have to
go police department today and tomorrow taking over your city,
and then it can go from DC to other places.

(01:47:08):
So I believe that, you know, DC should have the
right to self governed, just like other places had the
right to self governing. And we've putten too much, we
rely too much on the government to solve problems within
our community. And when people talk about accountability, and things

(01:47:28):
within the community. We look out, we looked at as
bad guys, and now look what we have here. Somebody
else is coming to do the job for you. And
I said over and over again over the years that
if we didn't deal with this problem with you for
our community, that somebody else was gonna.

Speaker 14 (01:47:45):
Come and do for us.

Speaker 9 (01:47:46):
I knew it was coming. I had called the community
meeting where at the time Chief County came in. It's
maybe about three years ago, so Chief County, Attorney General
Swab came in, the w mayor Public Favor came in,
and others. We had a youth panel and we had

(01:48:09):
other panels on economics, all the issues that need something.
And I was telling them, if we don't deal with
this and y'all keep on being in denial, then we're
gonna have a big problem here and somebody else is
gonna come and deal with it. And it's so funny.
You know, a parent called me yesterday who child was

(01:48:30):
in the Navy yard, and she was telling me that,
you know, one of her sons was the one that
got caught with a gun. A loved one of her
sons was locked up for something else. See his charges
and the daughter, nine year old daughter got into some
stuff and she's like, I don't know what to do.
I need help. And we're bringing in the process of

(01:48:52):
seth Berk the thirty year a Millionaire Marching. I've been
working with Reverendoodie Wilson and we had like fifty people
on the zoom yesterday from d C and Baltimore and Annapolis,
you know, talking about what can we do to you know, one,
celebrate but get you know, people back and engaged with
these young people and you know, other issues in our community.

(01:49:14):
But also just celebrate what we did in the past.
And I say that to say that we got to
do something. But we also cannot take the word of
accountability out of our community because if you don't take
care of your problems, once they started affecting other people,
they're going to take care of the problems. And I
knew when people in Capitol Hill were getting robbed and

(01:49:35):
people in Capitol Hill were getting conjacked and beating things
like this. It didn't take a big ball to get
what I really knew what was coming. Matter of fact,
I'm shocked took this all to come. And crime is
going down. But it doesn't matter about crime going, that's
about how people feel and about who the crimes are
happening too.

Speaker 2 (01:49:58):
Families just join us. I guess there's Ron moten Onto
community activists in Washington, d C. Reacting to the the
I guess the edict from the White House they're going
to take over the city. In fact, they've said they've
told that all National guardsmen and DC National Guardsmen they've
been told to be involuntary ordered. I don't know what
that means, involuntary order to report to duty of the

(01:50:19):
d C armory today through September the twenty fifth. And
the mayor responded as well, because, as as Ron mentioned,
they were saying that the crime rate in the district
aspiring and out of control. But the figures don't don't
support that. But you're saying that there is crime in
the district. Well, we'll agree with that there's crime in
the district, but it's not worse as if as Trump
was saying that like it was Mexico and Bogata his

(01:50:42):
foreign countries. You know he was, of course, he's exaggerated,
as usually does. Do you think there's something more behind
the fact though that he's highlighting this and once the
or is this the start of the federalization of the
District of Columbia. Is he going to move on from
the crime issue and probably start running the city himself?
Are you having these funks run the city?

Speaker 9 (01:51:03):
I think you have to look at everything. I do
know there are crimes are going that are serious. Anytime
somebody conject somebody, that's a serious crime. But that's happening
all over America. But clime is going down in all
the major cities all over America. So you gotta want
to know what the motive is. You know, it got

(01:51:25):
to be a motive. And we know that in this
country that certain people lives matter more than others. So
when certain things happened to certain people, something's going to
happen eventually. So that's that's one thing to look at.
But we also got to look at We've had two
year old, three year old shot by books in that city,

(01:51:46):
and we as a community have been desensitized so much
where we don't even get outraged at things like these
two in our community. So that's a factor. But the
most important I just know that we as a community
had to take a fan. But we have to deal
with our problems ourselves or somebody else is gonna come

(01:52:06):
and deal with them. We don't face that fact. We
want to always get people who we don't agree with
the opportunity to come and do what they want to
do to us in America. We have to deal with that.
We have to deal with the fact that a lot
of these women are out here with these children by themselves,
whether they choose to or not. And it's almost impossible
to raise a boy by yourself easy. I don't care

(01:52:27):
if you think who you think you are. With the
internet and the social media influence, and these children wanted
to get attention, you know, like the parent told me,
she said, I don't know what the hell he turned into,
just like over night, and you got a twelve year
old one of his friends that got clips. You got
all this stuff going on with guns and cuts with

(01:52:47):
little children who are not even thinking about the consequence.
And then the children were saying, you know, all gonna
get is you in our life. That's what we come to, man,
that it's gonna take the community to deal with that.
This the other you still have a massive conservation hurt
out community.

Speaker 2 (01:53:03):
So right, I'm ron hold that thought right there. We're
gonna step aside for a few moments. You've got some
folks who want to talk to your family. What are
your thoughts about the federal government taking over Washington, d C?
Centering in troops of Washington d C? Could we have
done a better job FOI or somebody like that or
the other Many other groups in Washington, d C were
helping patrol the streets, So why is this happening? What
are your thoughts? Reach out to us at eight hundred

(01:53:25):
four or five zero seventy eight seventy six you speak
to Ron.

Speaker 7 (01:53:28):
Moten next, Now back to the Carl Nelson show, a

(01:53:58):
land Rising.

Speaker 2 (01:53:59):
Family after the top of that with DC community activists Moten, brother, Ron,
you're familiar with before cults? Are you familiar with all
the FOI when they're patrolling the product with the Don't Smoke,
the Brothers, the peacekeepers, all of those different groups. You
know all of them. Uh, we're trying to keep that
crime down in Washington, d C. Having said all of that,

(01:54:20):
and the crime is still going on? Did they fail?

Speaker 4 (01:54:25):
Say that?

Speaker 9 (01:54:25):
Again?

Speaker 2 (01:54:27):
I'm saying all these local groups that we had patrolling
the streets, trying to keep a crime down in Washington,
d C. All these different groups that we had because
now the Trump's coming into the district, did that mean
their efforts failed?

Speaker 9 (01:54:40):
So, I mean, I think it's systematically there's some things
we need to do better. The crime has gone down,
but there's a certain population of people that it hasn't
gone down because the laws in this city. I tell
people all the time, we have two extremists. We have

(01:55:01):
a far left extremist and you have a far right extreamist.
We don't have no middle ground. And because we can't
come together and take the friction of disagreements and make diamonds,
we would go far to the left, which is no accountability,
or far to the right, which is massive conserration right,
or things to lead to master calcuation like what you

(01:55:23):
saw yesterday by Howard University where they're doing roadblocks like
we in and Palistine going after people who we call
terrorists or whatever, or you know, we're in a military
state of mind. Now, that doesn't start the problem. That
just locks people up right, and a lot of the
times innocent people get caught up into those things. So

(01:55:46):
if we take the systematics approach and say, okay, here's
a child, he's robbing people. He doesn't listen to his
parents et tective. We had a program to work like that.
It's called Piece of Halls, and there were other programs
in the City of Work. From two thousand and eight
to twenty and twelve, the murder rate the CLIB went
down the all time loads in Washington, DC. And it

(01:56:08):
went down because those valid offenders that we had, which
was a small group of people. We had programs where
we would take the most valid young people and we
would go and we would make sure they went to
school every morning because you know, a lot of the
truancy and things lead to valid and lead to children
going astray. Right then we would go and make sure

(01:56:29):
they made their curfews at nighttime. But we were programming.
We would do things with them. We would take them
out of town on civil rights tours. They'll learn their
history and they coaching and know who they are, why
they shouldn't be killing it and fighting each other, and
these things work. But then politics in DC got rid
of all those programs, right because some people supported somebody
over another person, and we're paying for that today in Washington, DC.

(01:56:53):
You know, if you go to Baltimore right up the road,
they're doing those things now that we were doing back
between two thousand and eight and two thousand. Well, and
then what happened was we had this guy who they
just tried in Baltimore who came here and told us,
no matter what children do, you just let them go
into the streets. And once you do that, you had
the mentality of what this young man who mother told

(01:57:15):
me exactly what he said, Oh, they're not gonna do
nothing to me. We can do whatever we were we
gonna do. All they can do is title I mean
child as you and ours right, you and our life,
I'm side and you and our life means most of
them not even gonna do a year two of the
most no matter what they do. And once you put
that into a child's mind is no different than the

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adult adult who's in the marriage. If a man knows
no consequences, a woman knows no consequences in cheating. When
a handsome guy or handsome or beautiful woman come back,
they might just flip and try. So we have to
make sure that there's balance and there's help. And now
we send the children outside of DC against so we

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don't know what they're getting when they go outside of DC.
Why a lot for these valid crafts. So we had
to have mechanisms in place to ensure that these children
families are being helped but also being helped and being
held account. Right, it's a balance to that, and sometimes
we go too far to the left and we go
too far to the right, and we don't listen to

(01:58:19):
people on the ground trying to tell people what they
need to be doing.

Speaker 2 (01:58:24):
All right, Hold up, all right there, Ron, and got
a bunch of folks want to talk to you from
DC and Baltimore. Twenty five minutes after the top of
our family, I guess his community activist Ron Moten in Washington, DC,
reacting to what Donald Trump said yesterday and also what
the mayor's response was, sending in the federal troops to
patrol the district because of the crime. Let's go to
the line too, Brother you huo's joining us. He's from
the district Grand Rise and brother you're you're on with Ron.

Speaker 21 (01:58:47):
Morton Es and Grand Risers. Brother youhuu otherwise knowing the
town hunter, how you doing mode? Just checking in with you.
So then, yes, sir, I just wanted to make sure
that we are crystal clear that Donald Trump activated the
troops as well. Is the federal troops in the National Guard,

(01:59:09):
and he wants to federalize the police. But listening to
both conversations in the press conference with the mayor, I
think she was getting a contrast saying that Pamela Smith,
our chief of police, is gonna still carry on her functions,
functional duties. And I'm calling you to let you know
that I think we have to hit the ground and

(01:59:31):
let a lot of our residents know, primarily the people
that are on the street, and once there on the street,
they're gonna be picked up, apprehended and.

Speaker 22 (01:59:42):
Everything else because there's no emergency O. Based on the
statistics they said the crime has been down. The same
type of tactics that they did in California do what
they're doing right now in DC. So I got a
lot of variables in my head right now, but I
had to call you to let you know that definitely
gonna have the marsh in Washington in New York this

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year on the twenty on the twenty eighth, and I
think that has a lot of consequences of what's going
on in Washington, d C. That was gonna be hited
up by Reverend Al Sharpton, And I'm convinced. I am
convinced that a lot of these devils that believe that
they love DC, they need to come on and respect

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the three elements to.

Speaker 14 (02:00:27):
Make us a DC statehood.

Speaker 23 (02:00:28):
Because President Trump alluded to the fact about what's known
as the home ruled Charter. He interpreted so well that
everyone was so believable. But we know that we don't
have home rule in its fullest, purest form. So can
you speak on that to the our audience so they
can know the difference between home rule.

Speaker 14 (02:00:49):
And DC stateshood?

Speaker 19 (02:00:50):
Please?

Speaker 23 (02:00:51):
And I love, peace and love. I got some pens
for you. Just talk to Popping you know. I got
some pins for you.

Speaker 14 (02:00:57):
Brother.

Speaker 2 (02:00:57):
I'll be on by your shop this week, all right, right, yeah,
go ahead, Ron, you're responsible to you.

Speaker 6 (02:01:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (02:01:06):
Well, DC, DC does not have the autonomy that the
other fifty one states for fifty states have in America.
We don't have the autonomy to govern ourselves. So every
law that has passed, everything that we do in Washington,
DC has to be approved by the Congress, all right,
and the sent So every every single law, everything that

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we do has to be approved. And they had a
right any given moment to do certain things to us
as they can't do another states. They can't do it
in Baltimore, they can't do it in New York. So
we walk on eggshells even when we do things right.
You know, we have a balanced budget. Some places don't
have a balanced budget. For the last twenty years, we've
done everything on the level that most people can't do it,

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and we and we pay the highest factices. We I mean,
DC is held to a different standard. But nobody has
really came and still ten toes down with us to
help us fix this. So we're here, we are today
dealing with something that no other city or state will
have to deal with in America besides Puerto Rico. So

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we are What we're trying to do is just you know,
get through this, but also let people know that we
need statehood. We need people to come and stand with
us and push it through. Other than that, stuff like
this can continuously happen. But with that being said, once again,
I would say that climb has gone down. But it's
not about the climb. It's about perception. And if the

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news media is not flashing all the good things that
are hot there, and they flash these meet ups and
things that our children are doing where they're going to
places like the Navy y'ad. But there's been billions of
dollars that fixed up and a lot of tours and
people like that. Come when they show that over and
over in the news, there is going to be a reaction.
So people have to talk to their children. They have

(02:02:58):
to let them know this was joke. I mean, think
about this. This name went on TV and told us,
told us that he was going to have a press
complaence on Monday. And still on Saturday, people went down
to the navy yard and shot a gun handed meet

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up for flighting and everything ever. Dealt me somebody not
educating their children. We gotta let our children community know
this is not a game, and we cannot people give
people the bullets to shoot the gun.

Speaker 6 (02:03:30):
It up.

Speaker 9 (02:03:31):
When I'm talking about a gun, I'm talking about taking
away all of our right. I'm talking about locking us
up at an alarming rate like they did in the Crack.
The crack every them well took all the men men
out of our household and fut us in a position
that we're in today. So we can't make the situation worse.
We got to educate our people. We gotta let them
know this is not a game. And after we do that,

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we got to deal with the problems in our community.
Because when you don't have families in the community, you
don't have you're gonna have a village. So we don't
have families like we used to have because they were
broken up. So we really need people to step up
and help these young people understand and work with them
more than we've been doing. I mean a lot of
people are doing break things out here, but we got

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to do better.

Speaker 2 (02:04:19):
I thank you for addressing the symptoms and not the
end result of this is what the president is trying
to do. Twenty nine minutes away from the top of
Brother Ron, We've got some more people want to talk
to you. Let's go to Baltimore. You mentioned Baltimore. Santra's
reaching out, so she's online. Three Grand Rising, Sandra, You're
on with Ron Morton.

Speaker 24 (02:04:37):
Good morning, Grand Rise, and call to your guests. And
let me say this, Black people, you knew Donald Trump
was going to do this. You knew he was gonna
do it. He said he was gonna do it. What
he's doing exactly what he said. And he's gonna do more.
He's gonna come to all these urban black cities and

(02:04:57):
put his people in charge of him. So you might
well get ready and put your boots on the ground
because he's doing more jails and camps way out in
the mountains and in the desert. He's coming for your children.
He said it, and he's doing it. It ain't nothing
we can do about it. And if we don't come together,

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we're gonna be back in the wilderness.

Speaker 16 (02:05:23):
Law has lost people.

Speaker 24 (02:05:27):
We didn't we let our children gonna monk. We put
on their parents set up on his Internet with our
children acting all stupid and crazy.

Speaker 19 (02:05:36):
Why these white.

Speaker 24 (02:05:36):
People are playing chests and they don't never like you,
They never will't like you. They don't like their children,
and they still putting up with you and let you
go to their school and let you come in their domain.
So now they're gonna put you back and your domain.
So you might as well get ready, put your boots
on the ground, and where your fans at, cause Donald Chumps,

(02:05:59):
some troopers are coming for you and your children.

Speaker 2 (02:06:04):
All right, thank you, Sondra Ron. I'll let you address
what she said and also talk to you about the
issue of curfew because you mentioned in young people in
the Navy yard. Do you think the curfew is They
got the curfew instituted for young people, do you think
that's working or should they try something else?

Speaker 9 (02:06:19):
Well, it goes back to what I was saying, like,
you have a curfew, you got somebody trying to save
because I think that if you ask me, people who
know know trying to save the young people. And I
don't understand how parents can let their children go anywhere
without knowing where they're going. And then if a parent

(02:06:42):
can have control of their children and some of them
need help, we got to make sure they get the help.
But they got to be some accountability. Children cannot be
running while twelve thirteen years old down at the navy
yard other places and re acting like that. We don't
see a problem. So that's the problem that this community
should come there an address. I know, when we had
the piece of harmeless, we would have been right down

(02:07:03):
there addressing it, dealing with it, talking to the young people,
let them know they can't be doing this right by
the same token, I was talking to a father who
did just that, and he said, now I went down there,
I disciplined my son. I almost went to jaid them,
and he said, my son running around it, the judge
staying one thing and let them right back out. So

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all the parents don't want their children out here doing
this stuff. But we have a system that's not set
up the work. Just locking a child up is not
helping them, locking them up and getting them some services,
getting like I mean, jail saved me, but I didn't
need thirty years like some of my friends got. I
got my ged, I went to college. I came back

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a better person, came back when the Milliamare March was
going on. Was the youth organizer for the Milliamare March.
Never stopped doing what I was doing there in my community.
But sometimes you got to slow young people down and
help them, give them something to live for. So we
most of the children don't need that. Ninety probably ninety

(02:08:07):
five percent of children don't need that, But that's five
percent they needed. We gotta get to them because guess
what it spreads. It spreads and then it gets to
other children, and then the want to be syndrome kicks
in because children just want to be a part of something.
We have social media. Social media, everybody wants to be seen.

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So ninety nine percent of children down there don't want
to fight, but they in the midstle acting like fools.
That's what they acting like fools, and it's shown on
TV and it gainst people a reason to do what
they want to do.

Speaker 14 (02:08:43):
To us.

Speaker 9 (02:08:44):
People have to get their children, they have to get
their babies.

Speaker 2 (02:08:50):
And twenty five away from the top of a you're
referring to peer pressure of ron because that plays a
lot because, as you mentioned, you know, single mother and
I haven't had this conversation before. This was in la Uh.
One of our calls called up and her son disrespected
her caller to b word and all that. She was
just in tears and she didn't know what to do.
And a couple of brothers called up and said, give me,

(02:09:10):
give me get the sisters for them. We to go
there and take care of that young young brother. We'll
tighten him up. And we couldn't do that just in
case something else happened. Then it'll be all legal ramifications.
But what what help do you have for for because
you mentioned that earlier about single sisters with who are
trying to rare young boys. What sort of advice do
you have for them?

Speaker 9 (02:09:31):
Well, I think you got to find men that's in
the community. I don't think we have the amount of
men that we used to have for various reasons and
get them to step up. I mean, one of the
things that we were talking about last night on the
on the zoone with like fifty brothers and sisters is like,
how do we get like the mentorship back with these
with these young people and help some of these parents

(02:09:52):
who were raised these young boys by themselves in the
time where we have the Internet and things like that
where we don't know what they're doing when we watching.
So I think the mentorship is definitely a part teaching
parents how to be parents, because you know, one of
the things I always talk about, you know, we get
people vouchers and we do mix use housing. Was you

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take somebody from a place where they used to live
in any kind of way and then you put them
in an apartment building with people who paying market rate.
That don't work, but it could work if we taught
people how to live amongst other people and hold them accountable.
For some reason, these people who govern our city was
to come with this far left crap, I hate to

(02:10:33):
say it, and teach our people that there's no accountability
and somebody else is always a problem. You've given the
enemy all the things they need to come and do
whatever they want to us. When we grew up, that
was not the rules of the land that my grandparents
taught me. I don't know where we get this stuff from.
That people can go do whatever the hell they want

(02:10:55):
to do in our community and there's no accountability. And
we got to the point where we just turn the
eyes said we're now gonna do nothing because we're scared
to step up and do something. We're scared to say
something to a young person there. So they just running
wild on our community. And if we've got men and
women enough to acknowledge that an address deck, we're gonna
give what the hell we deserve.

Speaker 2 (02:11:14):
And if you hold up feld right there, Ron, I
got to step aside for a few moments. We'll come
about Mike in d C. I want to join the
conversation family. You two can join us as well. Reach
out to us at eight hundred four or five zero
seventy eight seventy six, and well take your phone calls.
After the short break. Our ground Rising family joined us

(02:11:45):
right now with Ron Mooteney is a community activist in Washington,
d C. And responding to what happened yesterday. Donald Trump
says he's gonna send troops on the streets of the districts.
Is it's just out of control. They claimed savages, that's
the term he used, beat up a former White House
employee and call them thugs, and it says crimes out
out off the chain basically, and what happened. The crime

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rate has gone down in the district, as it has
all across America. So some people think of that there's
something behind it that some people say this is not normal,
and they just reveal it that the Pentagon has secret
plans to use troops to put down what they call
local unrest nationwide, not just Washington, d C. They're starting
in Washington DC. Want to get to your thoughts eight
hundred four or five zero seventy eight seventy six four.

(02:12:28):
We do that, though, let me remind you come up
later this morning, we will continue to talking about this
with the the President General of the Universal of African
People's Organization, Brother Zaki Brewdy. We're going to talk about
Mark Scarvey as well, because this is this is Black,
This is Black August, and also coming up later this month,
you're going to hear from late this week. Actually you're
going to hear from University of Houston's doctor Gerald Horn,

(02:12:49):
also a futuristic researcher by the Sidikia Bacari. So if
you are in Baltimore, make sure you keep your ready
launching tight on ten ten WLB, or if you're in
the DMV, run FM ninety five point nine and AM
fourty filright station. I've got a bunch of folks want
to talk to you.

Speaker 15 (02:13:03):
Ron.

Speaker 2 (02:13:03):
Let's go to Mic in DC. He's on line four
Grand Rising, Mike, You're on with Ron Moten.

Speaker 14 (02:13:09):
Graham Rising, mister Nelson and your director Kevin of Welcome,
Sir mister Nelson. They're canceling so many shows, as your guests,
So they canceled so many TV shows because of this
liberal and far extream left audiology. And it's just so
out of control. It's so out of control that Howard

(02:13:31):
Stern and all the night show people that are getting
rid of them because and probably the viewed next and
Gail King everybody, they're getting rid of them because this
liberal stuff is crazy. What Donald Trump did yesterday was
absolutely correct and explain.

Speaker 15 (02:13:44):
Something to you.

Speaker 14 (02:13:45):
I have a condo in watching in DC on Alabama
Avenue twenty four to seventy two and the Gator Commune
across from seven D. Okay, I had to move out
my condo because they're riding up and down the street
twelve o'clock on the motorcycles, shooting and killing, fighting from
the police department. They're just totally destroyed it. And they fired,
they got they demoted the chief of police because she

(02:14:06):
told the truth about statistics they did not include. They
did not include the juvenile statistics in it. That's why
Donald Trump did. That's the same thing can happened in Baltimore, Okay,
So they lie, they have to go back and fact checking.
So the juvenile the crime rate is out of control.
The quality life is bad, okay. So the thing is
that the the DC Police is under five hundred. There's

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short five hundred, Baltimore City is short six hundred. Baltimore
City quality of life is out of control.

Speaker 6 (02:14:33):
Okay.

Speaker 14 (02:14:33):
That people can't sell that house, and the taxes are
so high. People are running out of the city. They're falsified,
and and they're falsified. The statistics that lie, they're out
of control.

Speaker 2 (02:14:43):
So out of the mike, we hear on that. But
what are some solutions though I've got That's what the next.

Speaker 14 (02:14:49):
Thing is that you have men like that gentleman you're
on your show, that great gentleman like that who probably been,
like you said, been to this. I've worked in corrections
right the right. The system has failed us where they
have these white people in there, and our grandmothers raise
these kids how to be right, and now they're telling
our kids. We can't suspend our kids, we can't discipline
our kids, and that's why our kids are going out

(02:15:09):
there doing this. So you have men like me. If
I get ahold of you, if Mike from DC gets
ahold of you, and my brother got killed, and I've
worked in the prisons, if I was in the military
and CIA and all, I will correct you.

Speaker 17 (02:15:20):
You need men.

Speaker 14 (02:15:22):
You need men. Women can raise children, can do it,
but you need strong men to get out there, many
to get out here and save these people. When I
worked in the prison the Cornell West was my professor,
doctor Martin Blake West Museum, Doctor Hosey Hele said, Mike,
you don't need to be working it for you need
to go out here and save these people. And then say,
these young men, I'm tired. The eighteen year old, seventeen
year old coming with licenses. Many to get out here

(02:15:43):
and do this job. I'll come up. I say, so
many kids, thousand of kids every year. People thank me.
We got people that are scared of them. We can't
discipline our children. Of course, weren't allowed to discipline our children.
We got men.

Speaker 2 (02:15:54):
Got to get all right, a bunch of folks. You
want to talk to Ryan, let me. I want to
get him a chance to respond what you said. Thank you, Mike,
Thanks your call. Ron.

Speaker 6 (02:16:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (02:16:03):
I mean part of what he's saying is truth in
my eyes. Like I said, we had people that came
in our community and told us that we shouldn't discipline
our children, and here we are today. They had a
law in DC called Title twenty five in DC public
schools where a child could not be disciplined. I mean
they can damn they do anything and could not be disciplined.

(02:16:24):
So when you put that in the mentality of a child,
that they could not be disciplined, this is what happened.

Speaker 14 (02:16:30):
I give you another thing that they did.

Speaker 9 (02:16:32):
I wrote an opt eight years ago when they were
legalizing marijuana, and I was saying that I have no
problem to legalize because it wasn't really legalized, just to
the education component in there, and the father left people
who were pushing this policy but not listening. What I
told them was that marijuana is highly addicted, so we
need to make sure we have an education component to

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teach our young people that it's not for them, right,
and it's addictive. Marijuana is very expensive, so our young
people got hooked on marijuana on the pretense that we
need to pass this bill because too many black people
are getting locked up or put in a triminal justice
system for marijuana. They can't get jobs, they can't get this,
they can't get the other. More black people were locked

(02:17:16):
up after that bill was passed than before the bill.
And you don't hear none of those people talking about
you know why, because it was just a cash grab
for white progressives to make money off of us like
they always do. They made all this money off of us.
Black people couldn't get the dispensary until ten years later.
We only at one person. By then, you got everything

(02:17:37):
set up, so they got to buy the weed from
you at high prices where you really can't make no
real money. So when I'm saying and that all these
young people are hooked on on.

Speaker 6 (02:17:46):
Weed right.

Speaker 9 (02:17:48):
At KACS and they're breaking the people cars and everything
else to support their habits, and nobody talks about this.
So that's why I have a mixed opinion about all
this stuff is because I know what people come to
do to us, but I also know how we that
people coming out communities and tell us not to do
what our grandparents do. You know which work, whether we
would be in the pressor was trying to do things

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to us and that it worked.

Speaker 2 (02:18:14):
All right, hold up the right there, because you've got
a bunch of folks want to talk to you. Ron
eight hundred four or five zero seventy eight seventy six Jasons. Next,
he's calling from Baltimore. He's online three Grand Rising, Jason.
You're on with Ron Moten, Grand.

Speaker 25 (02:18:26):
Rising Dean Nelson and Grand Rising to your brother Ron.
Brother Ron, and there's anything that we can do up
here in Baltimore. Please make sure that you reach out
through this platform and then you know, allow us to
assist you with resources or anything that we can do
to help. We've been warning about this up here for
quite some time. Myself and Yolandapulli, who ran for mayor

(02:18:49):
for Baltimore City have been, you know, calling for Vincent
Giraldi's resignation for quite some time. You're absolutely right, my brother.
We don't seem to have in the middle policy. Everything
seems to be very progressive. We have a lot of
progressive organizations here. Unfortunately for me, it looks like they
are sucking off the teeth of the memory gland of

(02:19:13):
impoverishment and many of the social ills of our community.
And these nonprofit organizations, many of them facilitating six figure
salaries up here, unfortunately, are not really getting at the
root of the problem. They're they're making some strives because
we are seeing some reduction in crime, and you know,
we are grabbing at some youth, but we still have

(02:19:35):
issues like with the Department of Juvenile Services that families
have been asking to utilize functions like the chins weren't
a child that need a supervision and asking for I'm sorry,
sins warn't and asking for the state for help, and
you know, telling them, don't take my child after you
adjudicate him and send him home on a box because

(02:19:57):
I know something's going to happen to him. And we've
had several young men that we've either murdered on the box,
or went out there and caused more harm and even
in some cases committed murdered while all the bots. There's
a solution to this, and you said this earlier, my brother,
the village. When you really analyze how we live, if
you go back to Nubia and look at that village mentality,

(02:20:18):
the men were together collectively raising the village, raising the
young men, bringing the young men up. I know that
a lot of us men are comfortable and our own families.
We got a grip of our own children and grandchildren
and nephews and nieces in many cases, but sometimes we're
going to have to get out of our comfort zone
adopt the child. We see the troubled child in the neighborhood,

(02:20:40):
we see the troubled young man. We don't talk to him.
We ignore him, We walk away from him. You know,
we don't engage him. I try to make it purposeable
to talk to every young man that I see, regardless
to where I'm at or what neighborhood I'm in. We
have to get back to the village mentality. I've only
been preaching that on Wolb for fifteen years. We have

(02:21:01):
to get back to that mentality. Too many folks are
in their comfort zones and reference to their families. Let's
get out here and get a grip of our children
and get our village back under control.

Speaker 22 (02:21:11):
We can do this.

Speaker 2 (02:21:13):
Let's give a chance to clock Jason.

Speaker 25 (02:21:16):
Too progressive or two conservative?

Speaker 2 (02:21:19):
All right, thanks Jason?

Speaker 9 (02:21:20):
Ron Yes, Nah, I mean I totally agree. I think
we are the answer. We've done it before, we can
do it again. But it's just sad that we let
these people come into our community and tell us how
we should be raising our children. I knew who Vincent
Sorority was. He he came in a lot of stuff

(02:21:40):
that he said made sense. But then when it's come
time to listen to our views, they didn't listen to them.
So we had those children like this brother was talking
about the community know who we need to deal with,
who we don't We know, we know things they don't know.
And when we tell them herder, we do keep this younger.

Speaker 5 (02:21:56):
A little longer because we know this going on, that
going on. He tells us he really don't want to
go home, Because we go home, we got to carry
a gun because this beef, that beef, this that and
the other. So systematically, the community are the.

Speaker 9 (02:22:06):
Only people who can deal with things like that. The
police can't deal with that. All they can do is
respond to after the shooting happens, or.

Speaker 14 (02:22:14):
Try to be on the block.

Speaker 9 (02:22:15):
But you can't be on every block. So the community
has to like do an assessment and they have to
be set up to deal with these things. And then
the people in the community have to have a more
compas because we can't have brothers who sit out here
to help the children, but they still in the street,
you know what I'm saying. So we gotta get brothers.
I mean, I never to get an FOI. The dope

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busses went around Paradise, you know. Actually it was Republicans
who sit them. The Jack Kimber did it, you know,
and it worked, but then they got rid of them.

Speaker 14 (02:22:47):
But it worked.

Speaker 9 (02:22:48):
So it's gonna take men. It's gonna take men and
women working together as a village to deal with this.
Because one thing that I know from work with young people,
there's some things that men can do that women can't do,
and there's some things that women can do that men
can do. And when we work together, we are the
solution to our community. And we have to do it together.

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And deal with this now, or it's going to get
worse and we.

Speaker 2 (02:23:14):
Can do it, and we have to do it, Ron,
and we have to come up with solutions. I think
if we're your response to Jason's question, the common sticks
away from the topic. I ration the clock. Alex is
checking in from Alexandra Virginia is on line five. Alex,
you have a question for Ron.

Speaker 14 (02:23:31):
So long ago people, My.

Speaker 19 (02:23:34):
Question to the brother is, were you born in Washington,
d c.

Speaker 9 (02:23:41):
Fifty five years going on fifty six?

Speaker 19 (02:23:44):
Okay, okay, so you probably what's the difference between nineteen
eighty nine in the nineties when Mad Burry brought the
troops in.

Speaker 9 (02:23:58):
Stuff that prostitution.

Speaker 19 (02:24:00):
And drug dealing. I remember that year very well because
me and this jazz musician, we're trying to get to
some gigs and we couldn't even get to the gigs
because of the traffic, the prostitution, the drug dealing. It
was so bad up there that some shows had to

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be canceled. So what's the difference between the troops coming
in now and then?

Speaker 9 (02:24:30):
The difference is back then we had real wars going
on in our streets. So a drug that was put
in our community and guns that were put in our community.
We had prostitution. Like you said, we don't have prostitution
on the streets anymore. We had people going around shooting
them and killing, having shootouts at clubs and all those
type of things. We don't have that anymore. Because we

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have a small group of people who affecting the majority
of the people in a way bore so fear than anything,
and because we haven't dealt with it in a systemic
way to deal with it from the root causes and accountability.
Here we are, but there's nowhere nothing close to what

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we were dealing with when when cracking our community and
drugs and guns were put in our community and people
were warm with each other.

Speaker 6 (02:25:21):
It's not the same.

Speaker 9 (02:25:22):
It's not the same. You can ride down Fourteenth Street.
You don't see people down there like that. You don't
see the correct and things that we don't. But we
still have problems in our community that in parkets of
the city where mostly where impoverished neighborhoods are. The only
difference is when we grew up like it was a
guy by the name of the Grays and they would

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they murder, eat and they were acting the prosecute accident. Well,
why you don't go to Georgetown. Why you didn't kill
him in George, they said, because if I would have
killed him in Georgetown, we would have went to jail.
And that's the thing. People now are going outside of
the community and doing things where then they wouldn't. That's
the difference. They they're going on capital here, on robbing people,

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and that's what this is all about. Right, we didn't
do that. People knew, Oh, don't go mess with them.
If you go mess with them, they're gonna be on
your back. It was all right for you to go
kill your brother then. But now these group of young
people they don't have no they don't care. They will
rob anybody. And there's only a small group of them,
but everybody's being affected because we didn't address it. That's

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the difference, all right.

Speaker 2 (02:26:30):
I think we started addressing it today. But what are
your thoughts? Family, you want to get in on this
conversation with DC community activist Ron Molten, reach out to
us at eight hundred and four or five zero seventy
eight seventy six and we'll take your phone calls after
they we check out. Oh we've got a break coming
up with it. I think the traffic of weather or
something going up. Anyway, we'll take your phone calls next.

Speaker 7 (02:26:53):
You're fucking with the Most Submissive the Carl Nelson Show.

Speaker 10 (02:26:57):
You're with the most Submissive yourself.

Speaker 2 (02:27:22):
Thank im Rising family, thanks for staying with us on
this Tuesday morning. I guess there's a community activist Ron
Moten in Washington, d C. Responding to the president's press
commerce or the mayor's response to the fact that the
federal governments now wants to take over DC at least
from the law enforcement standpoint, and some people say it's
just a precursor. It's totally fedilized the district. He also

(02:27:43):
name checks some other cities that he wants to go after, Chicago,
LA and who else in New York? So is this
a planner or is this a distraction? What are your thoughts?
Eight hundred and four or five zero seventy eight seventy six.
And one thing everybody's agreeable on there is crime is
in Washington, d C. Anthony's online six. He's calling from
the district. He wants you to speak to run Grand

(02:28:04):
Rising and Anthony, you're on with run.

Speaker 26 (02:28:06):
Grand Risings on how you doing. Appreciate your work I'm
born and raised in DC. I'm over sixty years old,
and I was caught up in that epidemic when they
put that nonsense on the streets.

Speaker 6 (02:28:20):
All right.

Speaker 26 (02:28:21):
As a result of that, I am in a situation
I'm in now. I'm struggling to get back on my feet.
But I worked down. The problem is they just legalized marijuana,
another gatewave ug that I started back in seventy one
when I first used it. So what I'm about to
say is we had growing up in DC. We had

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a lot of recreational centers open for our kids, so
our kids had something. I was a kid, I had
something to do, even though I was doing a little
childish thing. But we had recks, we had games, We
had different I'm talking about game as far as.

Speaker 9 (02:28:58):
Sporting events, baseball, boxing.

Speaker 26 (02:29:01):
We had these type of men to try to steer
some of the kids away from us. Like I said,
I'm over sixty years old, been in the streets, round
the street an the food. However, I had principles, like
the man said, my parents. You know, brothers, big brothers
and big sisters in the neighborhood will correct you. We

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don't have that today, you know, I speak to the
kids every day, and I tell them be safe, just
be safe every day because they only understand what's coming
down the pipe. It's not just here. This is going
world wide. I don't mean worldwide because they think we're
out of control. The music kept us, keeping us out
of control. They won't educate the kids.

Speaker 6 (02:29:43):
They'd rather give you.

Speaker 26 (02:29:46):
Anything other than education, music videos, things of that nature.
That's the problem. We need to get back to the basis. Man,
speak to the kids. I'm talking to the all ogs.
Start speaking to these young people. Let them know they
need to change their ways because, as the man said, you,

(02:30:08):
Roogle is coming and he's coming with a vengeance.

Speaker 2 (02:30:13):
Thank you, all right? Thanks Anthony's Ronnie on the responder
to what Anthony Anthony said.

Speaker 9 (02:30:19):
No, I mean, I mean we all speak the same language. Language.
Those of us who know know when they'll tell you
when they coming, When they come, they come, and you know,
there are a lot of other things that's going on simultaneously.
They have nothing to do with DC. But DC has
always been a guinea pig. I remember when they first
took when Marion Barry was re elected and the control

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boy came to Washington, DC. What did they do they
took the trades and their music, got a lot of schools,
and that was the road map, the blueprint to the
black middle class in Washington, DC. You would get went
to college, you got the trade. You he was a musician.
You understand I'm saying, Oh, you just want it, got
a job, right, And all these things were taken away

(02:31:02):
from us. And then thirty years later we see our
young people, Oh, they don't not do nothing with their answer.
You took it away from them for thirty years and
now and then cool, it's cool to be a fool now.
So we got to change our young people's mentality. This
ain't this stuff ain't happened overnight. And then what they did,
they started doing that all over the country as they
did it in DC. They started taking their music and
the trades all the schools. Right. So that's why we

(02:31:26):
had to depend on other people to come here and
do the work because the people who were doing it,
it was taken away from them. You know, it was
passed down from generation and generation in our community. And
it seems like everything that we do well some kind
of way, it's taken away from us. Right, So we
have to do a better job of analyzing these things

(02:31:47):
and trying to figure out how do we get back
to teaching our young people would work for us, all right,
A lot of us like that, brother and me. We
went went our ways, but people installed good principles in that.
So when it was time for us to change, it
wasn't hard because we knew rights from wrong from the beginning.

Speaker 6 (02:32:04):
Right.

Speaker 9 (02:32:04):
A lot of these young people they don't even know
right from wrong. They go and put their crimes on
social media, and we would never do nothing like that.
They committed time and post it, they tell on themselves,
so you know, they don't know no better we would.
I mean, we would never do nothing like that. You know,
even when we were in the street, it wasn't cool

(02:32:26):
to use drugg it's cool for young to use drugs
because it's in the music. Every song is talking about
purposeest or weed or killing or who got to the
guy on the block?

Speaker 6 (02:32:38):
Right, and the.

Speaker 9 (02:32:38):
Coolest guy on the block is that the smartest guy
is the guy with the biggest gun.

Speaker 14 (02:32:43):
So how do you.

Speaker 9 (02:32:44):
Deal with these norms that have been normalized in our
community and haven't been dealt with, and these conversations we're
not asking.

Speaker 2 (02:32:53):
How the conversation. We should have met at day school. Right,
that's another issue too, that attend those meetings of school meetings.
But let me ask you this before we'll let you go.
How can folks reach you? Because you've been doing you
do in great work in the district, You've been attacking
the situation, You've been having meetings and discussing that this.
How can if they want to assist you, how can

(02:33:14):
they reach you?

Speaker 9 (02:33:17):
I would say this, they can email me roma motenoi
cloud dot com, our O n A L D M
O t E n at iCloud dot com and I
would let them come on to some meetings that we're
having right now. As we were talking about some of
these things and celebrating the million Man March and you know,

(02:33:40):
trying to trail away to get mentors back to a
lot of these young people. But we also have to
deal with policies. We gotta deal with policies. We have
to deal with policies because a lot of policies ain't
just the crazy policies from the right, some of them
out the crazy policies from the left too. So we
got to deal with this stuff, and we got to
push for with even with people that we don't agree with.

(02:34:02):
I tell people all the time, I ain't got to
agree with you to help out people. So sometimes it's
good to deal with people you don't agree with, because
friction with love makes die. It's only the friction with
hate that makes the stuff that creates the dest to
put us in the grades. So I love the work
with people that don't always think of like because a
lot of times we make each other shopper and we
help bring about change in our community. It's just when

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it's coming from a bad place and a bad heart.

Speaker 14 (02:34:26):
When it's danger.

Speaker 2 (02:34:29):
Thank you, Ron, and thank you for not giving up
on our children. Thank you, and you know we can
help you. Let us know if we can support.

Speaker 14 (02:34:37):
You, all right, my brother, thank you?

Speaker 2 (02:34:40):
All right. Family. That's Ron Morteny's a community activist in Washington, DC.
We will continue this the subject too with our next guest,
who has to be Brother Zaqui Burruti is the He's
the President General of the Universal of African People's Organizations
based in Saint Louis and some of the He's looking
at it from a different angle of what's going on
in Washington, DC. Grand Rising, Brother Zaqui, welcome back.

Speaker 15 (02:35:00):
The program than a great communicative brother Carl Nelson, how
you're doing it?

Speaker 2 (02:35:04):
So I'm still learning, brother Zaqui. I'm still learning. But
Brother Zaqui, when you heard you show what happened to
President made that announcement yesterday, what went through your mind?

Speaker 15 (02:35:15):
That's this thirty four criminal and we got to keep
that out there, that he's a criminal. How can he
be talking about crime when he is in and of
itself as I just made mention a thirty four count
convicted felon that is running and that America has elected
that criminal. That what ran through my mind is this

(02:35:39):
master mass part of a master plan they say that
twenty five concept that they have, and that is the
target cities that are predominantly black, with either state control
like what's happening in Saint Louis or the federal control
that's taking place in Washington, d C. So again, it's

(02:36:04):
uh a reflection of a fastiest government, of racist government
headed by racist Donald Trump, and we got to call
it like it is. But then it's also a call
for black people, not just in Washington, d C, All
across the country that we've got to wake up. And
we got everybody that has a task, and that task

(02:36:28):
is being involved in terms of countering the move to
take us back in history and keep their foot on
our neck as to what happened to George Floyd. So, uh,
we got a battle, and we have to understand that
this is an ongoing war within this society, the ongoing

(02:36:50):
attack of one of our people that's personified in many
different ways, uh, even including uh the school to the
pipeline of prison where we got disproportioned in number of
black people incarcerated. So we're just under attack, as well
as the attack on our voting rights to move to

(02:37:11):
uh disenfranchise us.

Speaker 9 (02:37:13):
Uh.

Speaker 15 (02:37:14):
So the only counter to that, again is as Quimitray
used to always say, is that we got to do
three things. Organized, organized, and organize with clear cut goals.

Speaker 14 (02:37:26):
And objected, All right, well let me at this.

Speaker 2 (02:37:29):
But you've got to admit though, that that crime is
a problemly all our communities, in all our inner cities.
How do we handle it? Because because if we don't
handle it, what happened in Washington, d C. Is going
to be in our town next.

Speaker 15 (02:37:43):
Yes, you know, crime has always been endemic in our community,
but we have to understand the root causes of crime
and the root causes of multiple reasons. First of all,
the integration of our families, structure, and our neighborhoods. And then,

(02:38:03):
as the brother who just was on before I would
come on, the educational system that really do not teach
our people the basic skills of survival as well as
our true history that helps keep a person on the
right path. We have this ingenuous political leadership that do

(02:38:24):
not put forth policies that enhances our community. Just as
the brother before me, the lack of recreational facilities. When
I was growing up, we had swimming pools of elve,
we had baseball leagues, we had the board scouts. We

(02:38:45):
had a number of things that kept us focused and
on the right path, even though there was at that
time still people who did not do the right thing,
but it wasn't as intensified as it is today. And
then the brother I also made a point which we
have also addressed in our newspaper called The African News. Well,

(02:39:06):
I call it the kind of crazy music that's being
projected upon the young people who not have no understanding
of their history, and they just actualize some of those
crazy lyrics of disrespect to the sisters in fact called
I was just most recently out I got totally offended
in terms of at a social place lounge where it

(02:39:30):
had a female singer talking about what pussy and a
hoes in the house. What kind of imagines that we
allowing all this kind of fifth to be perpetrated in
our communities without saying anything about it. So those are
some of the many issues that should wake up people.

(02:39:51):
And you know, and over the years, I've said this
and I keep repeating, if you're not involved in the movement,
I'm talking about the folks that listening to you right now.
I'm just putting a direct challenge if you're not part
of an organization, even if you can't be full of
time out in the streets with people, then at least
you have to give financially to help those who out

(02:40:14):
there are speaking truth to power. And if you're not
doing that, then you're part of the problem. Also as
you see this integration of our community, which leads to
the kind of crimes that do impact our community.

Speaker 2 (02:40:29):
Right, I thought that comes pray, But let me ask
you this, isn't there some sort of personal responsibility. Then
they can cut out gems, our swimming pools, they can
take everything away from us, but just at the end
of the day, isn't it us to take responsibility for
our children and what they do. We can't expect the
oppression to rear our children. We can't expect them to

(02:40:49):
even teach our children. Isn't it some point that we
have to step up? Brother z a key.

Speaker 6 (02:40:55):
That's what I'm just saying.

Speaker 15 (02:40:57):
That's what I'm saying is the responsibility and everybody to
get involved with organizations that speak truth to power and
have a track record of working for the upliftment of
the race. That's first and foremost everybody. And also it's
the responsibility of people to be attending school board meetings

(02:41:18):
as well as city council meetings as well as knowing
the issues at the time that you have to go
to vote. Yes, it's a personal responsibility. And as I
just may mentioned, if you're not doing standing up to
help make that better community, then you part of the problem.

Speaker 14 (02:41:38):
And what happens is too much time.

Speaker 15 (02:41:40):
Too many times people in their own minds are successful
and say I made it, and damn the rest of
the you know, the masters of our people. We have
to get out of that kind of mentality and so yes,
I totally agree. It is a personal responsibility for everyone.

(02:42:01):
And like always when I'm on your show, I'm encouraging
whoever is listening that they got to be involved, They
got to be Oh, we don't continue to be talking
about this for years and years to come without no solution.

Speaker 2 (02:42:15):
All right, That's what we love on this program. Solution.
So we want to hear from some solutions. You got
a bunch of folks already. Want to talk to your
brother Zaki. It's seventeen minutes, samfy Tope. Family got to
step aside. A few moments we come back. We'll take
a phone call for brother Yqi discussing what the take of,
if you will, of Washington, d C. And Trump's also
promising to do to other cities. What are your thoughts?
Eight hundred four or five zero seventy eight seventy six.

(02:42:37):
We'll get you in. We'll take phone calls next.

Speaker 7 (02:42:41):
Now back to the Carl Nelson Show, Grand.

Speaker 2 (02:43:05):
Rising family, thanks for rolling with us on this Tuesday
morning here on this twelfth day of August twenty twenty five,
Black August. We want to talk about that as well.
Right now we're discussing what Donald Trump did yesterday taking
over the Washington d C. The law informs of the
aspect of Washington, DC, and it's threatening to do so
to us several other cities name called them as well, Chicago,

(02:43:25):
New York and lay on his list to take over.
But what are your thoughts should we address the problem
before the federal government steps in eight hundred four or
five zero seventy eight seven sixty. This will havelp you
to get in to speak to Brothers. Hockey. Mark's calling
from Baltimore. He's online, four Grand Rising Mark, you're on
with Brothers Hockey.

Speaker 14 (02:43:46):
Hey, Grand Rising Brothers. Yeah, Carl. Not only is the
Muslim brothers they still out there, but we had Captain
Andrew Muhammad is the leader we out uh. We are uh.
We take resources to the community. And not only that,
you know it was brother uh, the brother Ronald that

(02:44:09):
you had on. I hope he can talk to the
mayor because we absolutely have to deal with it. And
it's not crime. We did stupid crimes. But like you said,
it's a small amount of people that a lot of
these call so called progressives, and to me, progressing went
out the window when Black Lives Matter was highjacked. The

(02:44:29):
millions and hundreds of millions of dollars. You know, we're
the problems.

Speaker 9 (02:44:32):
And then we got drunk.

Speaker 14 (02:44:34):
But we had life coaches. We was over there Tuesday
and National Night Out. A matter of fact, we was
over there where the mass shooting was yesterday taking resources
to the community. And guys, we was over there five
years ago when the lady got shot in the back
or head, seventy years old, right around the corner from
where the mass shooting happened. And guess what, the same

(02:44:58):
a lot of us, same young people were still out there.
And we've been up there many many times. So we
do you know, we have to join organizations like we
are Moving dot Org. Brother Jason is absolutely white. These
stupid policies and stuff like that. The music what's one
girl name? Uh, what's the what's her name?

Speaker 9 (02:45:22):
Uh?

Speaker 27 (02:45:22):
Carl Uh?

Speaker 14 (02:45:23):
The lady that sit about the music that we're the
only ones that make music for our de meanment. I'm
a bench, I'm a whole. I'm of this some of
that wealth, doctor Chelsea. But but let me just say
this real quick.

Speaker 9 (02:45:39):
Listen to this.

Speaker 14 (02:45:40):
So we got a life coaching program up at Langston
Hughes in Baltimore, where the press conference was the other day.
So when they finished talking about how much the mergers
down and how much the cards, I mean, how much
the shootings are down. Yeah, but Lolas Smiths and car
Jackson is all that stuff is way up. Nobody mentioned

(02:46:02):
that we have a life coaching program of every Tuesday
six thirty to eight pm. Job training, job opportunity, trauma coaching,
father's obsessing, recreation. Also fifty eleven are Beautius Avenue. The
brother that was there with us yesterday, they did about
sixteen years in jail. He's man's to stop the Beast hotline,

(02:46:25):
no police involvement four four three five two two seven
eight four eight four four three five to two seven
eight four eight. He just started a CDL program and
stuff like that. And that's what we need to do.

Speaker 6 (02:46:41):
Carl.

Speaker 14 (02:46:41):
We've never had so much money right here.

Speaker 6 (02:46:44):
And a.

Speaker 2 (02:46:46):
Bunch of folks want to talk to y Q Mark.
Do you have a question for him?

Speaker 14 (02:46:51):
Yeah, So let me wrap it up. I just want
to I just want to say I really I.

Speaker 9 (02:46:56):
Want the breakfast Club.

Speaker 14 (02:46:57):
I want to put them on and I want to
see what y'all need to say of this. Uh uncle
t here in Baltimore. He works with young people. But
our mayor and the lady was on the breakfast club,
and and and at the press conference, Uncle T said
it takes the buildings to raise the raise child him
but what if the village is retarded, and they kind

(02:47:18):
of scolded him saying he shouldn't have said that a
press conference. And when is the time to tell the truth?
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (02:47:27):
Jacky.

Speaker 15 (02:47:29):
Yes, it's always. Uh, at every opportunity, we should always
tell the truth. In terms of my response, but also
in terms of responding to his comments. Uh, that's what
is an example of what I'm saying that has to happen.
As he was explaining the kind of movements that he's
part of trying to make a change in our community,

(02:47:52):
we have to have more people involved to make a difference,
whereby we could put it into the kind of crime
wave that takes place in our community as well as
creates other community activists as an ongoing legacy or a
future generation. And again, the kinds of what we're up

(02:48:14):
against in this ongoing war within America is as I
had made mentioned, family breakdown which dout do not have
too many many households, which where you have a father
and a mother in the home. We have the educational

(02:48:36):
system that's jacked up. In fact, I'm a former educator.
I was taken out of the educational system because of
my outspokenness. But I've written a couple of books on
what's taking place in the educational system, and that from
a perspective of an educator, seeing the negativity that takes
place every day inside the majority of schools, that's probably

(02:49:02):
taking a place across this country. We have the lack
of economics survivability for many people who then turn to crime.
So we also have to look at policies about creating
jobs as well as many other jobs. Like example, Saint
Louis City fifty percent right, Yet in terms of contracts

(02:49:26):
that's let out to repair streets or do you construction,
take less than twenty percent of that goes to black contractors.
And so we got so many different battles again and again,
I just say that we have to get people involved,
just as that brother was involved. And also if I

(02:49:50):
made going back to Trump, as I had said on
an opening statement about him being convicted over thirty four
times convicted, I'm father to say that as an organization, UH,
we have called him out a couple of times on
the front page of our quarterly newspaper when he first

(02:50:12):
was elected. Our major front page was garys Garvyism versus
trump Ism, where we got a great picture of Marcus
Garvey and a shadow pitchure of Trump, and we're saying Garbyism,
which is called for us doing for ourself. It's one
of the great ways of fighting back in terms of

(02:50:34):
what's the attack on us. And then a recent newspaper
where we should have as the title of the United
States presidency is a criminal enterprise and we have Trump
and a jumpsuit prison jumpsuit where we says America elects
criminal president. So we also got to be bold enough

(02:50:59):
to call out those folks that are not for our community,
and that includes sometimes people of color who sell the
race out. So at all times, going back to that
question about when it's a good time to tell the
truth for me is at all times that we have
to speak truth to Paul.

Speaker 2 (02:51:18):
Got you twenty and after the top of the Leo
Burrows has joined us. Next he's one of our soldiers
out in Baltimore Cities on line one grind Rising Leoi
only brother Zaqui.

Speaker 20 (02:51:29):
Grand Rising brother Carl Nelson and Brother Zaki. I just
want to say that we've got to be mindful, and
I'm speaking as president and founder of the Roots of
Scouting organization Ruts of Scouting Incorporated. We've got to be
mindful not to be trapped by the Donald the Actor

(02:51:50):
Trump initiatives. I'm concerned that I spoke with a lady
on yesterday and thank God she's in the minority, an
older black lady who said to me remarkably that thank
God for Donald Trump initiative to save us.

Speaker 28 (02:52:07):
He's not trying to save us, not at all. We
have to save ourselves and not allow ourselves to be
trapped once again into a divide and conquer scenario. We've
got to control the narrative. And so what I'm trying
to say is that all that I've heard this morning

(02:52:30):
about tough love and the fact that the emphasis that
we must place on family, the black community, black history
and culture is the main stay, the main primary anchor
by which we retain and survive our very existence. Self
determination is the order of the day. In Baltimore City.

(02:52:54):
Vocational education has not been emphasized in our public schools
to the degree that it was to thirty years ago
or more. We've got to bring that back. You know,
we have the answers, We have all the answers, but
we seem sometimes to fall victim to the traps and

(02:53:14):
the pitfalls that are laid for us. And we just
simply got to focus. I heard today ninety of the
black youth are on the right path.

Speaker 13 (02:53:24):
That's what I've.

Speaker 28 (02:53:25):
Heard on this show today, that the majority of our
youth are on the right path. If that's the case,
then we have to rededicate ourselves as black folks, adults
and otherwise, elders and otherwise to ensure that our youth
are guided in the right direction. And it is about
tough love, and it is about our survival. That's fundamentally

(02:53:49):
where I see it.

Speaker 14 (02:53:50):
What do you think.

Speaker 5 (02:53:54):
For?

Speaker 15 (02:53:56):
And so right on time, it's just a matter of
us actual lies.

Speaker 6 (02:54:00):
We all know the problems and we.

Speaker 15 (02:54:03):
Know the solutions. The question is implementing the solutions and
moving forward, and then also guarding against Once we make success,
there's always a counter effort to undo some of the
success that we have achieved. A classic example is right
here in Saint Louis with the state government headed by Keyhole,

(02:54:29):
who is a Republican. They have successfully receives control of
the Saint Louis Police Department after years that different organizations
of which an organization was part of a movement called
the Coalition against Police Crimes and Repression, that we.

Speaker 14 (02:54:50):
Were able to as the years of state.

Speaker 15 (02:54:54):
Control of the police department, we were able to put
it back in the hands of the local government here
in Saint Louis City, and that was in twenty twelve. However,
this year the governor has reversed that.

Speaker 9 (02:55:08):
And now there they.

Speaker 15 (02:55:09):
Have that control of the police department headed by the
state government. So those are the kind of battles that
we just have to be prepared for and stay focused.
And as you just made mentioned, I mean, we know
the problems and we have the solutions, but it's about

(02:55:31):
implementing them in guarding whatever victories that we have. So
I'm in keeping with us some of your remarks, most
of the.

Speaker 2 (02:55:42):
Remarks, all right, and thank you, brother Leo. Twenty six
away from the top. The Bill's also in Baltimore. He's
online six. He wants to speak to the brother Zaqui
Grand Rising.

Speaker 4 (02:55:53):
Bill.

Speaker 2 (02:55:53):
You're on with Zaki.

Speaker 17 (02:55:55):
First tub of the morning, called and thank you for
this opportunity again, thank you for having my friend Zaiqui on.
But I guess, Carl, you know, I think what we
all agree with is knowing that what we need to
do as a community in terms of our children, as
our community. But you know, for us to use our
situation is that, well, you know, this is why Donald

(02:56:15):
Trump is doing what Donald Trump is doing. This had
nothing to do with why Donald Trump is trying to
take over with Washington's one of these other cities. This
is Donald Trump and the plan the terms trying to
make America more on Waner. You know, you got other
people in this country that's not even having some of
the issues that they say black people is having and

(02:56:35):
they're still moving on them. So I don't want black
people to get caught up and saying, well, Donald Trump
is doing what he's doing because we because we haven't
done what we need to do. Yes, we know we
got trouble. But for us to excuse Donald Trump, and
I'm glad Zaki mentioned that history for convictions. Not only
that this man is robbing the dog on country of

(02:56:58):
every of all the wealth.

Speaker 14 (02:57:00):
That he can.

Speaker 17 (02:57:01):
You know, the man who's doing every corrupt thing and
publicly that he can and we and we gonna kind
of praise down Trump like he's doing some fuzz And
I'm gonna just close this car because I always say this,
that's why. And it's a country when we're talking about
what we need to do, and Senn's a country has
some kind of true rebellion, a revolution or civil war

(02:57:23):
for this government to be crused so that this government
could start over. Then we're gonna always be where we
are because.

Speaker 13 (02:57:29):
This government is not for us.

Speaker 17 (02:57:31):
So you know, this government has to be overthrown in
terms so that it could be so can be rebuilt.
And that's my that's my position. I was lying to
hear his our he's positions.

Speaker 9 (02:57:43):
Okay, first of all, thank you Bill for your convents.

Speaker 15 (02:57:47):
As I had made mentioned first of all in one
of our recent editions of our newspaper, headline was the
United States presidency is a criminal enterprise. This country, the
whole governmental system over the years, has been criminal in
its actions towards the black community, black and brown community,
as well as on the real side, poor whites. So

(02:58:12):
we have a twofold struggle within this society. As I
see it, it's a racial thing as well. As a
class struggle. In one of our past editions, I was
coming on the heels of the Mike Brown murder, I
put it out. We put it out that there were
that there were three options in our humble opinion for
black people collectively to respond to what's taking place. One

(02:58:35):
option is to continues the ongoing fight for different changes
within this system, like how we be doing for a
civilian review board and what have you, that does not
really address the deepness of the overall system that we
call capitalism. Then another option is that has been advocated

(02:58:57):
by different historic leaders, including Honorable markets Massah Gaary and
Honorable Elijah Muhammad, is to get the hell on out
of this country, which a number of people have left
this country the hopes of a better life. And the
third option is the option that you just made mentioned
in terms of revolution, and of course revolution at the

(02:59:20):
highest level would be the best option because this country
is not only does criminal acts to black and brown
people here in this country, but across the globe, especially
in Africa, the poor and oppressive regimes. You can use
the example of what they have the embargo on Cuba,

(02:59:41):
which has a huge black population, because they chose to
have a different system called socialism. The murders that they
allowed to exist when Patrecia Mumba came to power in
the Congo and it's proved that the CIA was involved
than that the CIA being involved in the murder of

(03:00:03):
Lende in Chile.

Speaker 9 (03:00:05):
There you go.

Speaker 15 (03:00:06):
When Ronald Reagan was talking about constructive engagements around South
Africa apart that this country in terms of the capitalism
where the small minority of people have created institutions.

Speaker 2 (03:00:22):
That I thought about that brothers zy We're gonna step
aside for a few weeks. Oh that thing right there?
I din't you finish your thought. On the other side,
it's twenty two minutes away from the top of there.
I've still got some more folks want to talk to you. Family,
you want to jump in on this conversation of a
brother Zaqui Briti from saying, well, let's reach out to

(03:00:42):
us at eight hundred four or five zero seventy eight
seventy six. We'll take your phone calls next.

Speaker 7 (03:00:53):

Speaker 2 (03:01:17):
Grand Rising Family, thanks for sticking with us on this
Tuesday morning. Our guest is Brother Zaqui Brewdi. Brother Zyki
is the president General of the Universal African People's Organization
based in Saint Luis, and discussion this morning is about
Trump's federal forces now in the streets of Washington, d C.
The critics claim that it's an attempted distraction from the
Epstein files. What are your thoughts, some of the folks,

(03:01:39):
is we deserve it? There's crime on our streets, not
just in Washington, d C, but are now all our
major cities, and the problem lies with us. We did not.
We allowed some of our young brothers ancestors too, because
it was a gang of quote unquote gang of young girls.
Teenage girls were attacked person in Washington, DC, so we
allowed them to do it. It's our fault that these
children are wilding out on the streets. What are your thoughts?

(03:02:00):
Eight hundred and four or five zero seventy eight seventy six.
We'll get you to speak to brother Zaki. Brother Zaki,
how din't you finish your thought?

Speaker 15 (03:02:06):
Man?

Speaker 2 (03:02:06):
We'll take some more calls for you.

Speaker 28 (03:02:08):
Yeah, you know, I mean responding to Bill.

Speaker 15 (03:02:11):
In terms of revolution, ideally that's the highest level of
transformation that needs to exist. But in terms of practical reality,
it has to be a class movement, and so these
poor white folks who have been brianwashed to hate us
when they start feeling the impact of the policies that

(03:02:32):
keep them poor. It would need to be a mass
movement of black, white brown to be able to really
have a true revolution here in this country.

Speaker 2 (03:02:42):
Got you sixteen away from the top of Marvin's calling
from Baltimore. He's online too, Marvin, you have a question
for brother Zaki.

Speaker 29 (03:02:49):
I want to say simply, is is that we've been
dealing with this problem for a decade. We all know
about it. We all should have done something about it then,
but we didn't know what we did, went into talking
about everybody else's visiting on the in and that, and
forgot our own had a problem. Now, the worsest part
about it, we didn't do anything then, We ain't doing
anything now. But when you got somebody that will do

(03:03:12):
something about it, they say that's wrong too. Show what
the hell is wrong with the black people? Y'all just
want these kids to die? Or do you want to
see your loved ones? I think that the black people
needed to get theirself right, man, and get in check.
You understand what I'm saying.

Speaker 30 (03:03:24):
This is the way it should be because black people
ain't capable of enough of doing nothing right when it's.

Speaker 29 (03:03:30):
Supposed to be done right.

Speaker 30 (03:03:31):
And you can see this, there's a well known fact
that they ain't doing it because they had a decade
to stopped this crime. Did they stop it? They went
into Trump Benner's about this, They went in the Ie
ran about that, They talked all thathing forgot about what
was happening to the black unstan what I'm saying. So
that's not right. I say, if the help is there,
take it, shut your mouth up and learn. You don't
see what I'm saying. That's about time, because one thing

(03:03:52):
for sure, Trump care about your kids. Even if he
had to kill a hundred or less than a hundred,
it's damn sure better than what the that's been going
on a million and dying. You ain't got no root
of you time somebody come up with remember you always
want to interrupt, shut down black people. And wait, that's
what I got to say, all.

Speaker 2 (03:04:11):
Right, and thanks Marvin, and brother Zaki says Trump cares
about our children. Don't you agree with that statement?

Speaker 6 (03:04:16):
Okay?

Speaker 9 (03:04:17):
What now?

Speaker 15 (03:04:17):
I didn't hear you.

Speaker 2 (03:04:18):
He said Trump cares about our children?

Speaker 30 (03:04:21):
What black people don't care about.

Speaker 2 (03:04:22):
Them, right, well, let me respond, thank you for your
about let him respond, you're repeating yourself.

Speaker 14 (03:04:36):
For us.

Speaker 15 (03:04:37):
There have been a number of people that have cared
about black people, including uh As historically markets Going, Belijah Muhammad,
the Black Panther Party, but they came under attack, governmental
attack for the kinds of progressive programs that they had
to impact our children. I was a former member of

(03:04:58):
the party when we used to have the pre breakfast program,
free health clinic program, but it was a systematic attack
by the government to shut it down. As well as
the fact though that many of our people, as I've said,
have not been involved like they should. They do sometimes
say morally support the work that you'll be doing out here,

(03:05:21):
trying to make a difference.

Speaker 6 (03:05:22):
But not involved.

Speaker 15 (03:05:24):
But the bottom line comes on everybody individually.

Speaker 6 (03:05:27):
What are you doing.

Speaker 9 (03:05:29):
What are you.

Speaker 15 (03:05:30):
Doing to help a youth who's on the wrong path.
What are you doing in terms of speaking truth to
power about the kind of crazy music that's being playing.
If you're not doing anything and just complaining, then, as
I said earlier at the top of this program, then
you're part of the problem end of itself. So that's
my response to the brother all.

Speaker 2 (03:05:52):
Right, thirteen the way Marcus in Houston, he's online three.
Once you get get in on the conversation, Grand Rising,
Mark you're on with the brother sad key.

Speaker 14 (03:06:01):
Good morning, my brothers.

Speaker 27 (03:06:02):
All y'all doing this morning, Grand Rise, and everybody's okay, yes.

Speaker 12 (03:06:07):
Sir, yes, sir.

Speaker 27 (03:06:09):
I just want to say I've been listening our morning on.
I love card Nelson's show about of Houston. I just
want to say is that I hear what we talk
about the youth, the young youth. We have to understand
the day of the future and we have to get
behind them regardless of the situation and what we hear
it going on. Because you notice that accountability that our

(03:06:33):
youth are being held of q's from e q's, you're
being qused, our youth to being Q day and night
all the time. We have a president that has been
convicted of a felony, thirty four of them at that
our brothers are trying.

Speaker 14 (03:06:50):
You know, we make mistakes, but when we try.

Speaker 27 (03:06:53):
To go out and do something, you know, that's what
holds us is if you look at across this country,
not just in Houston and Baltimore and where you're all
that look at all these police reports that are being
falved in these counties, cities, and states, falsely accusing a
lot of people, false reports, all this nonsense, and they'll

(03:07:15):
add a path the web. They're fighting for their future also,
so I understand what we're saying when we have to
figure something out to where that we have to come
together because people that are in our community, Sir, they
are they have open up businesses and stores and grocery stores.
Nobody looks like us when people come and police our communities.

(03:07:38):
We have to screen these people to come in our communities.
It's the same thing. Look, I hate to say it,
but when when when you talk on the radios, don't
we get screen calls White station, they get screen callers
they're gonna put when they want to put on just
in our unit. We need to start putting people to
represent our people in our communities to try to get

(03:07:59):
us on the right path. Because right now, when we
talk about entertainment music, listen, man, that's entertainment. We understand
that's entertainment. Remember when we were young kids, it was
a movie said rated are we would heil account of
parents would be held accountable if we brought our children
into these type of movies get rated r. How are

(03:08:19):
these kids getting this type of kind of music? What
is this mess going on? When we elect our officials,
elected officials, they can have control of this nunge tense.
We got to stop having these type of current concerts
that are coming to our communities that's singing all this
type of music with the with their pants hanging all down.
And this is what these kids like you keep what
I'm saying. We have to we have to get control

(03:08:41):
of this nonsense. Don't quit quit of pushing things to
the side.

Speaker 12 (03:08:45):
And said, well, the generation, the young generations.

Speaker 27 (03:08:49):
They in the future. They are the future. There's nothing
we can do about it. But we have to come
together as a community in our community.

Speaker 13 (03:08:56):
When we got the.

Speaker 2 (03:09:00):
We've got a bunch of folks run again. And I
want to brothers Aki a chance to respond to some
of the things you said. But I thank you for
your call.

Speaker 15 (03:09:08):
Well, you know, like all your callers have been calling in.
Everybody recognized the problem. It's about what you're gonna do
about it. And I'm proud to say as an example
for folks that's listening the trade and always we always
try to practice what we preached. As an organization, we
have a youth have a youth movement that's called Rising

(03:09:30):
Suns and Rising Daughters that we teach them, you know,
about the history as well as the cultures. We also
at one time had a campaign that I think we
claim that's a success. When the brother was talking about
sagging well, we had a campaign about.

Speaker 14 (03:09:48):
Pull up your parts and we had a lot.

Speaker 15 (03:09:50):
Of our art work out there in the community as
well as speaking at some of the schools. Also as
an organization, we have adopted a couple of schools elementary
school where each year we bring in school supplies as
well as articles during the winter time to help them
keep warm and what have you. Along with that, we're

(03:10:11):
partner with one of the local high schools. At every
black history program, we're donating conscious Black books to the
students and as an example, at this one high school,
normally we donate about one hundred and fifty autobiographies of
Malcolm Acts to normally high schools. So it's about not

(03:10:32):
only account the station, it's about practice. And that's the
challenge that I'm putting out again to all of your
listeners and your callers who have called in that you
got to practice what you preach. If you see that
our youth are on the wrong path, and implement a
program in your community to address that issue. If there's

(03:10:56):
no swimming pools or facility for you, go to the
city council meetings to address that issue. That's the task
that everybody should assume and also be a conscious voter.
So that's my response to your last caller.

Speaker 2 (03:11:15):
All right, send the way from the top of OL.
Let's go to d C. Panthers reaching out to us
on line four, Grand Rising Panther along with brothers.

Speaker 6 (03:11:24):
You know what, oh.

Speaker 16 (03:11:27):
Brothers Panther turning radio down.

Speaker 2 (03:11:30):
We're here and there in the in the background. Then
the feedback. Just listen on the telephone.

Speaker 31 (03:11:37):
Yes, Grand Rising to you, uh call Nelson and your guests,
the VIKI and to all your listening audience. I want
to say this, these these devils are calling those these
white folks, stay up, moving full forward fast on us.
They are trying to commit genocide, destruction, the trying to

(03:12:00):
take our education, our minds, our money out, everything we got,
everything we put.

Speaker 14 (03:12:06):
For and they moving on us.

Speaker 31 (03:12:09):
I think our people gotta start thinking like we ad war.
We are in war. It's no more playing about it.
And the only thing I can see that it's gonna
straighten this thing up is we're gonna have to evil
get out of this devil system that we've been in
for centuries, or we're gonna have to carry it down

(03:12:30):
from within. And I believe a lot of people around
the world are waiting for the people in America to
rise upon this beast. And I'm gonna tell these young
brothers something too. Brothers, we have war y'all out here
killing each other. You with us or you against us.
If we find out you killing people, your own brothers
and sisters and disrespectfulness, we gonna have to start looking

(03:12:53):
at you as a trader. Please wake up.

Speaker 18 (03:12:55):
We love y'all.

Speaker 6 (03:12:58):
All.

Speaker 2 (03:12:59):
I have to say you want to respond anything you said, you.

Speaker 15 (03:13:05):
Know, at the top of the hour, I did say
we were at war within this country, and they just
reconfirmed what I said earlier.

Speaker 14 (03:13:13):
We are at war.

Speaker 15 (03:13:15):
And then it's just a question of getting enough soldiers
to stand up to counter what is taking place. And
in fact, on our organization, we advocate that there needs
to be armies of black people across this country, and
we're saying that as an organization, we want to create
an army of a spiritual number of one hundred and

(03:13:36):
forty four thousand. So anybody who might be interested in
joining our movement, and I'm encouraging other organizations to be armies, Uh,
they can go to our website which is www dot
u APO dot or and again there's somebody the points

(03:13:57):
that I have pointed out in terms of something of
the work that we do. Uh, and it also includes
fighting police violence. We've been on a lot of police
brutality cases here in Saint Louis as well as supported
in other cities. So it's a it's about action and
not just conversation. And so again, if just encouraging people

(03:14:23):
to give us a look, or if not our organization,
somebody's organization that has a track record I keep emphasized
a track record of speaking truth to power and implementing
programs that's sort of upliftment of the race as well
as every organisation should have a in our humble opinion,

(03:14:45):
a paying asking view, because the struggle for black people
is just not here. For justice, equalities, not just here
in this country. We need to have the as a
market's guarding up your mighty race accomplish what you will.
We need to be pushing for a complete unification of Africa,

(03:15:08):
where Africa, and our humble opinion, should be as militarily
in order to protect itself as well as economically and
educationally in the center, as equal to the Western world
or to the white world.

Speaker 2 (03:15:23):
And so we didn't get a chance to get into that, Zachi.
We'll have to check on that next time and talk
about Mark Scarvey in Black August. But he was interesting
conversation the way the flavor went this morning. But if
folks want to get more information and join the Universal
African University African People's Organization, how do they get in
contact with you?

Speaker 14 (03:15:44):
They go three one four three three four one five one.

Speaker 15 (03:15:50):
That's our office number, or they could call me directly
Eric over three one four four seven seven forty six.
And again thank your call for the kind of great
work that you're doing with need any more people like yourself?

Speaker 2 (03:16:04):
Right, Thank you, brother Zachy, family classes this mister, We've
got to get out of here. Stay strong, stay positive,
please stay healthy. We'll see tomorrow morning, six o'clock right
here in Baltimore on ten ten WLB. I'm in the
DMV on FM ninety five point nine and AM fourteen
fifty

Speaker 4 (03:16:19):
WOL fourteen fifty w

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