June 5, 2024 • 44 mins
James McOnie joins Tony Lyall for another episode of the Champagne Rugby Pod!
In this episode, the guys review the final round of Super Rugby, discuss the impending issue of the team count in the competition and why a new format is desperately needed...
Plus, their 'Hunch Of The Week' thanks to the TAB!
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Oh yeah, it's the Champagne Rugby Podcast, now brought to
you by Max Raft. I say, now I brought to you.
I think it's been brought to you all season, but
this is what it's on the paper that I've been
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first step to a warm, comfortable, healthy home. And what
a weekend, the final weekend of Super Rugby. I'm joined
(00:31):
by James mcconey who was absolutely champing at the bit
to talk about some good old fashioned quarter final Super
Rugby minus turning a lie. By the way, do I
introduce myself on a hack podcast week these days?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Allow myself to introduce myself. Yeah, that's one of the
greatest gags in a movie that has sort of where
they stumbled or across something so simple. Yes, it's so effective.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Yeah, you know, Austin Powers underrated, just a great film.
I didn't hear the thing of doing another one, and
when I heard that, I thought, not required.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Have you heard they're doing another Happy Gilmore again?
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Not required?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Yeah, it's funny because it's moving. I mean, shoota McGavin's
got his whole life on cameo or one of those
here has websites where you can get a shout out
for him for tur undred and fifty bucks, and I
think the Chiefs got one from him where he sort
of had a feud of Kendrick versus Drake beef with
imaginary of course with Shooter Stevenson. Yeah, of course instead
(01:27):
of instead of they've used that device. But I was
looking at him, going, he's definitely senior tour now he
looks Shoot mcgevin.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
One hundred and eighty five years old. He's rarely gone
to the dogs, he's gray, he's absolutely he's a shit
show man. And because Happy Gilmen must have come out
in nineteen oh one, like you think about when it
actually came out, it's not a recent film, and I
just think it's a perfect film. It's a perfect sports movie.
So it's relatable to this podcast. We don't need to
fuck with it. We don't need to go release another
one unless the second movie is also perfect, which you know,
(01:59):
my gut Lloyin's my girth tells me that it's not
going to be.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
But well, grown Ups wasn't great, but they made grown
Ups too. And remember there was that that podcast, was
that Tim Batt It certainly was and Nick Sampson Goy Montgomery.
I believe Going Montgomery the worst idea ever? Is it
worse time? Oh? Sorry, it was Nick Sampson and Going Montgomery.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
No it wasn't.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
It was Tim batt and Go Montgomery.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
There we go. You had the first time.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
And that whole The fact that a bad sequel can
be made after a bad movie just shows that there's
no way they're going to not make this film. But
the issue is that Happy Gilmour. It's the distance between.
Sometimes you say it's a good idea. I remember like
thinking when Star Wars when they finally made the other ones, Shit,
(02:42):
that's an eternity. But it's actually not as as big
as the gap, even though those were prequels. Yeah, I'm
just saying Return of the Jedi was eighty two, eighty three,
and then I think it was around the turn of
the century they George was back with Phantom Menaced one
or ninety nine won, and so I was like, okay,
that's mess of seventeen years. But holy shit, I'd say
(03:04):
Happy Gilmore would be what late nineties.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Yeah, I'd say, if not, if not ninety ninety nine
as well, almost maybe the same time as I mean,
I certainly was running around pretending to be Happy Gilmore
for a while there.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Yeah, so there you go. It's it's it's a big
long time between drinks, long time between power.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Yeah, that's a drink. I think it's gatorade data rade
now getting my head water boys and my Happy Girl
was saying water sucks gatorades better, which again wrong film Happy.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
The thing about Happy Gilmore is, I think you're right
in terms of being a perfect movie tied up with
a bow. Everything happened, and everybody forgave it for tying
things up with a bow because we wanted chew them
again and to suffer. We wanted Happy to be the hero,
get the girl, Grandma gets the house. What else can
you do? Is it going to be developers from one
of those corporations that are around Auckland, Yeah, coming in
(03:53):
and bowling granny's house. Are they going Toby over one hundred.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Going to bring Chubbs back from the deer with another
arm with the crocodile like this they made up in Heaven.
It was perfectly tied off with a bow. I mean,
she's definitely dead, Granny. She was about ninety eight years old.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
It's funny how a character like Chubbs who is an
integral part of the movie, but you know it's a
minor role but major impact. It's like that guy from Dodgeball.
You can dodge a ranch. If you can dodge a ranch,
you can dodge a ball. Chubbs is dead as well
rip Torn certainly as Ripped Torn. Chubbs is dead in
real life as well. There's been a lot of Apollo
(04:28):
Creed right seize people.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Yeah. I don'tink it's his birth name, but yeah, he
has Apollo Creed. And I challenge any other rugby podcast
to start with about ten minutes on Happy Gilmore.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Well, one thing I would say with Happy Gilmour was
being able to get people to believe that some guy
who was shot at hockey but had so much power.
Adam Sandler sneakily puts an sporting prowess into a lot
of his movie. In Grown Ups, he was the three point.
He was the Steph Curry of that team.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
He was and in the Longest Yard, I believe he's
playing basketball and the prison and is it. Robert Redford
is like he's a natural athlete. You can't teach that.
He was just like he picked up basketball and was
instantly perfect that. I think he was literally a quarterback
in the Longest Yard. He was an NFL quality quarterback
right who were going off the rail drink driving went
to jail? Is it Robert Redford? Whoever that old man
(05:19):
is and the longest Yard? Yes, it's it's not Robert,
I mean not Robert red We're working it. No, it
certainly isn't. It's another guy.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
He's there's a Billy, Bob Thornton.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
He's had a lot of work done. Whoever it is?
Speaker 2 (05:32):
No, No, that's that's Friday Night Lights, isn't it? Of
all my American football movies get sort of they bleed
into one. And it's always tough because you know, al
Pacino is obviously delivering the speech on any given Sunday.
Are you googling right now?
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Burt Reynolds is the name of the guy. Yeah, Bert Reynolds,
he's the classic. He's a natural athlete. You can't teach that,
which you know, I've actually adopted that as my personal mantra.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
But do you know how hard golfers?
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Yeah? I know that it's so hard. Yeah, it's almost impossible.
And I but what I find interaling with golfers every
now and again, you can hit it if you can
get a bertie. The pros are getting birdies every now
and again. I can be as good as a pro.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Or Adam Sanders getting birdie. Happy Girl was happy Girl
was getting birdies all the time. And pretty much from
the get go, he's winning giant checks and putting them
in the back of his car.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Yes, and next happy to learn how to part.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
It's right.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
I'm gonna watch it immediately after this. But I guess
we probably talk about rugby. Let's talk about it, and
I mean, we're done and dusted with the regular season.
The Crusaders see you later, Bye bye, on let the
door hit you on the back of the but we're
leaving each shit and die. You're gone. No Crusaders in
the postseason of Super Rugby for the first time in
(06:54):
something like seventeen years, they're going there out of here.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Can we just rewind a bit what you said about
shoot him Agevin? Yes, he's great. He's a ship show
of a man.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
He is. I mean, you're not great.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
I am great.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
You're you're you're sort of like Sultan Pepper. I believe
that you're caught. Yeah, you're sort of like salt. You're like,
what's the song they sing.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
And me talk about things?
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Let's talk about Yeah, so you're talking about that's fine
your soul pepper. He's he looks like he saw Horashima
in person. He's not looking great. Okay, he's absolutely because
I think he's great. Save he's done some had some
work done as well. So yeah, when you have work
done and then you still age, so you just look
like maybe you've been bit.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
I feel like it's a country western song. Have you
seen that? He's a ship Joe man. He's great and
the ship Joe a man. But the thing is, we
can make that song another time we're here to talk
about certainly.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
I mean I'm in it, and firstly, I think it's
fine because I find of round like he's going to
hear this singly.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
It looks like seeing Haroshima person.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
A man. I thought that was a pretty good way
to describe a guy that's not too offensive.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
It's pretty offensive a rating.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
It he was. I mean, he was just there for
a nuclear bomb in the proximity, So he's sort of
he's a bit worn and with it. Okay, he's seen
the sun, he's send the inside of a sun bed
has shoot him again. Oh God, look at him.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Oh it's a ship show of a man.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
He looks like he's a polaroid picture and it hasn't
quite developed.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Probably isn't shaken like they should shake it, shake it,
shake it, shake it like a polaroid picture. We're talking
about outcast, We're talking about Andre three thousand.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Pre breakers say this, they're gone. In the middle of
the breaker bombs over bag Dad. They're they're going, They're
out of here. They yeah, I feel like it's It
would have been a scandal.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
You know, they like to think this ship.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Don't think that they do, but if you lean a
bit closer, it smells like whoo hoo hoooo. I think
it would have been a scandal and we should have
canceled the competition had the Crusaders made their finals. I
think it went down to what the Rebels and the
and Ruer playing their last game, and if the Rebels lost,
then the Crusaders would have made it, and that it
(09:18):
would have been ridiculous to win what three games all
season and be like, yeah, you're into the quarters.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Yeah, there would have been no justice. But at the
same time, all my goodness What a storyline because that
would have been the cat amongst the kid to do
you check the Crusaders in that eighth seed going up
to Wellington. What a game that would have been. Because
I not that I want to jump ahead, but I
feel like all the quarterfinals, well the majority are a
(09:46):
little bit meh. But yes, you've got obviously the Reds
are pretty good coming to play the Chiefs on Friday night.
But your Landers going over to the Brumbies, that's the
one where you could go, well, can they do something?
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Yeah, your best case scenario for me as a Highlanders
fan was that was against the Brummis and I think
that was basically locked in very very early doors. I
don't even think we needed to play that game against
the Hurricanes. That was just to ensure they were top seed.
And so that was actually the Highlanders did that. I
want to put that on the record. The Highlanders tank
that game, that that was an accurate representation of where
(10:22):
the teams are out. The Highlanders thought, we don't need
to win this. Let's not go too hard. We don't
want to hurt ourselves here, let's just get through the
game with no injuries. We actually want the Hurricanes on
the top because you know, imagine if they fell over
against the Rebels at home in the quarter finals, will
that be a laugh that? So I think that's the
Highlanders intentionally cad amongst the pigeoning it.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
There's no there's no way that's going to happen. But no,
you're right, you guys could win in the camera, but
it's only is it Wednesday morning? When do they name?
They name the teams today we're actually recording before they've
named the teams. But you really name with confidence and authority.
You're starting type five.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
No, I think it's too close and big old Holland, Yes,
you've got them chucked in there for sure. I mean,
Henry Ball seems to be playing the house down at Hooker,
sort of a bit of a revelation down there. But
other than that, I mean, I know Jermaine Ains has
sort of been dancing around are the other props, so
maybe he'll be there. But it is tough, and I
(11:22):
think the whole team does seem to have been shuffled
every week, week in, week out. I'm not sure it's
due to injuries or quite where we're at, but I think,
I mean, that could be the one where we do
surprise some people, but I do sometimes think my Kiwi
buy a show is because I just instantly picked all
the New Zealand teams to win those games, and the
Australian teams have been better. I mean, the Brummys have
(11:43):
won twelve out of fourteen, which is just as many
as the Blues and the Hurricanes. We keep saying, oh,
the Canes and the Blues the high fight, but the
Brummies are just as high flying as the Blues and
the Hurricanes and one as many games. The reason that
they're not on the top of the table is bonus
put and bonus points have been the deciding favor this
(12:04):
this whole Super Rugby campaign, it has all been decided
by bonus points. I mean, apart from the bottom four,
they only won four games and the Warratas are miserable
two games. What's going on with Sydney. But yeah, the
rest of the whole table basically decided by bonus points.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
I've got a theory about bonus points. It's a bit
of a ship one, but I'll share it anyway. Man.
It's that if you're playing and both teams need bonus points.
For example, the Blues and the Hurricanes on that night
and one team's playing in torrential rain it's a shit
show over night, then your chance of getting the three
(12:40):
more tries is hugely reduced. Whereas if anyone's playing under
that roof of yours down and donners, then it can
be a bit of a recipe for bonus points if
you dominate the game. The one issue for the Landers
is that every team that goes down there quite enjoys
playing under the roof, and they might actually get close
to you. So I'm I'm thinking that you guys may
(13:02):
not have a lot of bonus points or attacking ones
this season. Yeah, it's hard to tell. It doesn't show
on the table.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Certainly doesn't show on the table. I mean you can
do that the rudimentary maths if you say, well, the
Highlanders won six games, ended up on twenty eight points,
so six times four is your classic twenty four So
only yes, four bonus points. But I mean, who knows
if they're wanting or losing, is it?
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Yeah, So that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
And losing bonus point, get rid of it. That's my
that's my hot take. Get rid of it. Losing bonus point,
you're a loser. You're a chump. I don't want to
see people getting one point for a bonus point.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
For we got close, so we got a ribbon.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Yeah, it's really get rid of it. I mean, I
know they're trying to motivate people to play an attacking
brand of rugby, which is more enticing to watch. I
think that's the reason they have bonus points. But I
think it shouldn't be three tries ahead. I think it
should be even making it, make it more, make it
even a harder thing. You've got to really thump the
team to get them threes. Two threes too few tries
(14:02):
to get a bonus point.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
It used to be four tries you get a bonus point,
but it didn't matter if the other team had scored
four as well. Yeah, so it was like a winning
bonus point. I get what they've had that gap thing
put in there, and I think they're saying that that's
a trashing, that's a pattern.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
I actually do like the losing bonus point because if
you have a heartbreaker and there's a Rugby is such
a weird game with all those last minute penalties. Not
that I'm going to harp on, but the Luke Jacobson
one the other week against the Hurricanes, where it was like,
is that going to decide the game, it's going to
decide the game. I sort of feel that you probably
(14:40):
do deserve a bonus point. It's still a bit of
a pulling your pants down at home. Someone's walking away
with four points and you're going back to you know
what do you call it? The recovery session the next
day and nobody's hooting and yahooeing because you're lost.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Yeah, you do?
Speaker 2 (14:58):
You still I don't know think that last game. I
know that you're yeah, I mean NRL they do that,
don't they You're a loser? Yeah, they say golden point?
Too bad? Eat ship, eat ship? Is it two points
for a win? In the NRL?
Speaker 1 (15:10):
It is two points? Two points for a win, and
that's a Rugby's gone for a buy?
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Yeah, Rugby's gone big into the until those points, haven't They.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Nothing for a buy? And Rugby as well, which I
feel like maybe you should get a little handshake, a
little no focus on the lips. No, no, no, I
guess it makes it a pointless, doesn't it, because everyone
gets the same.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Everyone gets it. No, you should know exactly what you've
earned it should be on the table.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Yeah, but okay, I would throw and apologize if you.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
I just feel like they're losing bonus point does make
sense in some way.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Well you say that, but then the Warata has won
two games all season and ended up on thirteen points
on the table, which is they've won another game and
losing bonus points, and you think that should be rewarded.
That's what you're saying, reward the worst teams. A thirteen point.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Might might have been a winning bonus point.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Well potentially two of them could have been.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Very So I'm saying no, no, one of them isn't
because they have a golden point win against.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
That and that is a real heartbreak and very funny.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
It's so I know that because they're that bad that
you remember one time they got up.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
They really did, as I was at the after the hooter,
when they could have just drawn it out slightly longer.
The Crusaders, what do you reckon, Rod Penny, He's got
to go sort of a bit of a sign to
the masses that they're making some sort of change. Or
do you think they'll double down and say no, we
are in for a penny, in for a pound. Oh yeah,
(16:34):
that's good stuff.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Everty years that on, I wonder where the Rob Penny
was a popular choice. So the CEO would have probably
had the right of veto or maybe the casting vote
for Rob Penny. But it did feel like a step
back in time, and when you had all of Rays's
deputies being overlooked, I wonder how that went down. And
(16:58):
so this is the thing, is ken Rob Penny not
only when the changing room, but when the coaches offers too.
So if that's too hard, then I would say no
more Rob Penny. But if they are really and they
have to do, they have to do a real secret,
super secret hr move here to say is everybody okay
(17:19):
with Rob? And they'd say, look, I'm not going to
do this thing on survey Monkey. I know that you'll
basically be able to know who I am and I'm
not going to use my own handwriting. But he's a
freaking nightmare. Please save me from this hell.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
They need an anonymous box that has a stamp and
a rating from one to from ten to fire them.
And so you just stamp on the line we want
and no fingerprints, no fingerprint loves so you can put
it and you can't trace it. Back. You do the
invisible link with the potato and the and the black light.
You know, yeah, that's nice. You don't want to get
(17:55):
a black light to cluster. Some of those guys, though,
they'll light up to mad Mad Monday that we absolutely dripping,
and it probably is Mad Monday this week. So some
of those are the Crusaders. It would have been weird
for them. I mean, they have it, not celebrated a
championship in seven years.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
So I think if they can do it secretly, they
can roll them. But if they're happy with Rob, if
everyone's sampy with Rob, this is the thing. I don't
know what's going on at the Crusaders. If everyone says, no,
he's a good bustard, then give him another chance.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Yeah, you think he will get one. It's a very funny.
His name is Rob Penny. It's like a you know, Rob,
it's an action. How many what are you gonna do?
Speaker 2 (18:30):
I'm Pennie?
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Yeah, and you know penies is a type of money.
It's not great. What else is there? Rob Pennie? Thou
found Bertha to do?
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (18:38):
I like that said something something something. It's half form thought.
He is obviously a local guy from from Marlborough. So
maybe that dead factor into his hiring that.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
When you go to walk down the streets of Marlborough,
someone's listened to this podcast and see you said to
get rid of Rob Penny.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
I never see to get rid of them. All I'll
say is he called him a shit show a man. No,
that was shoot him Gavin.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
The Crusaders are fame for having this, you know, young
modern coaching style, right Razor. He's all about, you know,
taking your sword into battle. He's got themed for campaigns.
The players will love him because he's young and relatable.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
The Battle of Asian Korps.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
And then they go and do the opposite, get an
old school, hard assed principal type and to come and
take over and it is it doesn't seem to mold
to what they've created the whole brand on.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Could they do a SA saving Private Ryan Croddy. I
think they might have to. That'd be quite good day
as a theme for the season. I think we've got
to go in and save Ryan Kroddy.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
He again, I wanted him with his beard back. Ryan Crotty.
It was great to see him play that last game
down there at whatever the stadium, is these days.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
It was nice seeing someone who's so genuine and a
lovely bloke just say this was my dream. I live
my dream. Everybody else get fucked. I think that's what
he said live on Scott.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
I heard him that actually a white, a white mouthguard,
just there's an aside, really does make it look like
you've got incredible teeth. He stands up from scoring a try,
he's happy, big smile, big grin, and I was like,
look at this guy's teeth. You know AT's found out.
Obviously he's wearing a mouthguard.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
But he looks perfect in that mouthguard. I always wish
I had. I had one of those like semi opaque ones,
and it always looked average because you could see the
outline of your teeth. I want one of the solid white.
You look like Barney the Dinosaur. And it's cool.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Yeah, it is cool, very very cool. I always wore
a blue and yellow one seat of just running the
Highlanders Vibe. Played for a varsity indeed, and so that
was also our color. So that was how I took it.
When I say a quick break, Now we've had enough
hearing about my mouthguard, and is there any feeling better
than molding a mouthguard. Just if we do take a break.
(20:46):
That bit when you take it out of the cup
of hot water, you're popping in your gob, you squeeze
at your teeth, feel sensitive. You put it in the
cold water and you put it back in your mouth
and it cools the gums down. That'll that's how you
feel alive.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
That's a great one. And then you trimme it a
little bit with some scissors, just a little bit of trimmage.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Got a trim, You got a trim I actually might.
I mean I haven't played raby a long time, but
I might mold a mouthguard. We might take a break
and go mold some mouthguards. We're back very shortly. Okay,
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(21:22):
Text heat and your super team to three two three
six to be able to win a double pass your
team's next home match. And we're sort of were saying
earlier that it's a bit of a of a weird situation,
and I think it's widely agreed upon that eight teams
is too many in a twelve team comp to go
through to a quarter finals. It would have been an
atrocity the likes that Danil would have been seen and
(21:43):
New Zealand rugby of the Crusaders slipped through there. And
so apparently next year they're going to change it. And
this is I've just been handed this piece of paper
by one of the producers here at the ACC. So
this is what they have said. That the first would
top six qualify from the eleven teams because of the
rebels are obviously gone, and then eliminating two qualifiers and
(22:06):
the quarter finals at a hole, so there would be
no quarter finals, which just the top six, which I
think we can agree is legit and fair. No one
would be grudge seeing only six teams go through, and
the teams who finished first and second on the ladder
would be afforded a week's rest. And I guess this
is like the NRL, isn't it. And the teams three
to six playoff against each other, and then the two
(22:28):
winners of those first matches then advance and play teams
one and two in semi finals and that's the same
thing they're doing so on and so on, and we
all I think that's the obvious way to do it.
When I hear this, though, the first thing I think
of is do you want to take a week off
if you're coming into form late in the piece, if
(22:49):
you're in second maybe you've battled your way up the table,
you've won, you've won, you've won, you've won. Do you
want to rest?
Speaker 2 (22:56):
In contact sport? Yes, you want it? Yeah, I think so.
It didn't seem to in football. I mean it's sort
of worked. But let's just say the difference of the
A League as they play a home and away semi finals.
So in the end, what we're saying is that those
top teams will get a home semi and they will
have the rest. I think the rest will work for them.
(23:17):
Everybody will enjoy that. You think about any player who's
got a little injury, something that's just been bagging them.
They come through, they get another week to recover, everything's
going to be there'll be tickety boo. And I think
from all the evidence that they say it's a bit
like how they say travel effects teams. They say that
the rest makes a real big difference in the final
(23:38):
quarter and all the guys who you are asking to
play eighty minutes, which is how many reserves are there,
eight reserves seven yeah, eight yeah, so eight reserves, so
seven players you're asking to go the full eighty Then
that makes a big difference to those guys into your
overall performance. So yeah, I reckon it's good. I think
(23:59):
it's a better thing because right now, statistically, it's harder
to miss out on the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Yeah, you have to be pretty shit, yeah, to miss
out on the playffs, to be a pretty atrocious team
down there at the top of the South Island to
miss out in the playoffs, Yeah, I think as well
any sort of you know, maybe if you lose any
sort of rhythm by having a week off, it's more
than made up for by resting. And also you'd have
to think that that first qualifier that the other teams
(24:26):
have to play, that'll be a step up from regular
season as well. They both come to play it's knockout footy,
so they'll have a good old fashioned crash bash ding dong,
and they're going to come out of that with some injuries,
some niggle, they'll be sore, they'll be hurting and then
you have to go into another one and you know
you might have a week off, you might hit one
of those teams, and that's just a bridge too far.
So you think it would have to benefit those teams
(24:48):
that do get a week off. And in this instance,
I mean, if we were to play that this year
and hypothetically go through what they might look like. It
would be the Fijian drew and the Rebels who drop off,
the Highlanders and the Brumbies would play in one of
the qualifiers, and the Reds and the Chiefs and the other,
and then the winners of those who played the Blues
in the hurricane exactly, And you'd think that's probably about right.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
That's it's about right, that's okay. So format will change.
We're still waiting for something like America to get a
super Rugby Seamans and I think that'll happen that the
sort of they're gathering their forces, they're trying to work
out what happens. Who's going to be the bed. I
think it'll be a West coast thing. I think it'll
be La and they will say we want in, We're ready,
We've got the money, we've got the stadium and everything sorted.
(25:32):
They haven't. No, they're one. They'll there'll be a home stadium.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
To say stadium, yeah okay, but they need it.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
They need a good home ground. Yeah, that's the thing
that the LA.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
They do it in La Or.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
I think Lay they'll push for that direct flight. There
is a rugby community there. The Ala San Diego area
has got rugby people in it, and San Diego probably
more so. But I can't see it just being a
soul San Diego team. I'd say they'd need the l
A money. Yeah, and that's where all the sun wales Vagina.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Yeah, there we go. Yeah, I think that's I mean,
that's enticing, that's exciting me. I'm thinking of myself. Shit,
I might have to see my CV over there to
podcast for them. Yeah, hey, you guys need a podcast.
Surely they're all about content over there, right, that's your
Snoop dogg in to be an ambassador.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
But if you're straight away you see the billionaire owner
and you say, he's great. What a ship show of
a man that would be?
Speaker 1 (26:28):
You know, I hope it's not shooting McGavin because the
only person I've caught a ship show a man is
shoot himcgavn okay, and I will go a record and say, Shooter,
if you do own the LA rugby team in the future,
I withdraw and apologize. You look great, Keep on, keep
on looking into the sun.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
He went over to Japan. Yeah, the whole came down.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Yep. I said the wrong word there. So if anyone
heard me mentioned the H word underneath your singing, please
that's my bad. Okay, they cut that out, But I
believe everything should make it on to the final pot cast.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Yeah, I mean, we're we're this far into this podcast
that anything that happened to it. I mean, I'm expecting
Glane to just come in with it literal acts and
you say it's over.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Guys, we're done here. Please stop saying that the Holocaust
looks good on you, which is what I did say.
I apologize. I meant the hiorshima, but.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Sorry I missed that.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Yeah, I regret re why even coming back, and I've
doubled down underlying double down. Let's talk about these goddamn
quarter finals. Let's go unless there's that bigger issue you
want to get off your chest.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
One thing I'd just like to say is the Blues
absolutely had a shock and they whiff. They kicked themselves.
How do you kick yourself? Can be done? They kicked
themselves in the deck, and which would be almost like
a sort of like one of those Russian Cossack dancers.
They could kick themselves in the deck.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
They could. You could also knee yourself in the teeth.
I've done any one time, and I quite get it right,
and I need myself and the teeth, and it really sucked.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Well, let's say they kicked themselves in the dick and
need themselves in the teeth. No, not getting that bonus
point when all they needed to do was hold out
the chiefs, And I thought that was pretty shite.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Yeah, it's a wide the humiliator and the chiefs. Good
on them as well for being like this means nothing
to us. This is completely pointless. But we know it
would be annoying for them to do it, so give
it a whirl. And they waltzed it exactly.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
The chiefs are saying, we're going to just do the thing. Well,
we're going to trip down, stay higher one in the bus,
and like that's that's what we have to do. Whereas
you guys, at the end of the game, you'll win
without a bonus point, so when you go around and
get yourselfies, you'll be just so annoyed.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
I couldn't help but think though the Chiefs would almost
want to the Blues to.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Be totally, it's a fuck up from the Chiefs as
a fan. As a fan, I was going, you need
to let them, let them Blues score again, or do something,
or don't try so hard because for us, for the Chiefs,
it's like a trip up State High Ones. Easy pack
out the stadium, it's half half almost Yeah, the Chiefs
Blues games the big Ones and going down to Wellington
(29:07):
is tough.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
I couldn't get my head around the decision at the time.
I thought, why are you doing this? And also I
live in Auckland. I would prefer a final in Auckland.
I'd go along. It'd be fun. I'm not gonna going,
I mean i'd go to as an impartial I'd go
to the final. I'll go to sup Rugby final in
Auckland of course, be the first one here since I
mean the Super Rugby trans tasm one which obviously has
a huge astix beside it. For the Blues fans, if
you're listening.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Oh no, they had the Did they host one against
the Crusaders and the Crusaders got up?
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Oh? They cill.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
I call it the Oli Yaeger Final because I thought
he was exceptional.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
It's for a prop to get some creepit.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
I know he didn't. He didn't actually get mad at
the match. I'm like Oli Yeager was the best player.
He took all. He was running first receiver. He give
it out the back to Warner like they do in
those plays. But if you're running that pod perfectly, then
Oli Yaeger take a bow. That was your final.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Yeah, and I mean the Jaeger bombs would have flown surely.
I mean, have you met him there he don a
Yager bomb with him?
Speaker 2 (30:00):
No, I haven't. I think he's got a mixed up accent.
Is he part Irish Payert, English part key?
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Is he sound the sort of like he's just been
in the dentist?
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (30:09):
That strike me as he might have it, but I
don't know. But he's a mouthful. Well, the Chiefs, I
mean they're kicking it off on Friday against the Reds.
I'm assuming you're commentating that one for the ACC.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Yeah, it's going to be a horrible biased commentary, but
I'm worried about the Reds with McCrate day probably the
best number seven. He's probably I'd say he'd been number
one on Turn of Us. I couldn't find the stat
because as soon as you google Super Rugby stats, it
gives you stuff from like flankers from yester year come up.
It's like, oh George Smith, right cool, yes they yeah,
(30:40):
it's sculp Berger, great Super Rugby.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
If you listening, we love you. I mean, we have
a whole podcast dedicated toy at the stage. But so
what you shout out the fact that there's no one website.
There's Super Rugby. I'll say, oh, there's Super Rugby Pacific.
There's all different forms of information coming at you. There's
not even a website where you can go and look
at all the current teams, the competition.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
I kind of I go to Rugby Pass just because
it has the best coverage of all the games. But
you're right in terms of it's insane. But the weird
thing is they don't do play proper player profiles anymore,
which fucking pisses me off. It's like, just give me
like where they're from and what school they went to
in their club team. I like all their information and
I like to know a little sort of just you know,
(31:22):
fifty words on how they came through and they started
off on the wider training or whatever it is, and
then their dad played for Hawks Bay as well or something.
I mean, I like all that.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
I'm gonna have to get in touch with a super
rugby and maybe I'll do it. I'll volunteer attribute to
do it myself next year. I can't go to Rugby Pass.
It's just I mean, it's good information, but you just
got to wade through them absolutely getting down on both
knees for Anton the pond. I just can't do it.
There are every content piece they do is look at
how great this guy is.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
That World Rugby.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Saturday, No, no rugby pass. If you follow anything, it's
every single post is that go has Land, that look
at this guy the greatest rugby player of all time.
It's it's insane to me that they're so into this
one player because it gets a rise out of Southern hems.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
No, No, it's because they finally got a player who
at that point in time was the best. Right he
was the best player in the world. He deserved the
World Rugby Player of the year. But you look at
all the players who have won their award and never
kept the status of best in the world. You have
to win it over and over again, multiple times. I
think Richie only won it twice? Did he Richie.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Mccaugh I think he did one in a couple of times.
I mean DC's one of a couple of bodies.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Retallics won one.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Yeah once. What a year he had as well. But
the win forward wins it. Even when a naughty flanker
wins it, that's when you know that they are an
out and out superstar.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Yeah. Last year, Al he won it and you can't
take that away from him. But after that World Cup final,
they should have just gone old shit, it's Peters. Yeah,
it's Peter Stiff, it's pull the pen, it's pull the
it's him. He just basically won the fucking World Cup final. Yeah,
he was the best player by miles. Like, if you're
doing player rankings, it's Peter Stiff to toy and the risk.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Yeah, it's like giving Darren Lockyer the player of the
match in the two thousand and eight Rugby League World
Cup Final and the Kiwi's won. You know, you don't
give it that player you give it to someone and
the team that won.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
They won the thing. They should have just scrapped the
whole thing and just said, as Peter Stiff, sorry, Adie,
I think you're amazing, but oh yeah, we love you.
But it was just yeah, it was remember Locke, Oh
my god, that was terrible that.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
How many dollars do you think Artie's lost in bitcoin?
Do you think he's how is he promoting bitcoin? No,
he's just a big crypto guy. In the heyday, it
was all about it. I do remember listening to a
podcast where he said he tried to negotiate some of
us into our contract to get paid in cryptocurrency, and
they said, no, we're not doing that. But you have
to think some of those guys, I know TJ was
a big crypto guy. That Wellington. I think crew was
(33:58):
right into it. You have to imagine this been a
little bit of devaluation. We don't get stuck into the
weeds of their financial affairs, but just something to mull over.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Yeah, it's the crypto thing is quite interesting because a
made of mine said he's made a lot of money
from bitcoin and he's kind of flexing a bit and
I'm going good on you. But he is living at
his ex girlfriend's place currently. But it's I mean, I'm.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Sure he can get that because life's ruined.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
He's not.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
The Reds just to stay on the Chiefs game for
one more moment. They only just won to the Hapless Warts,
the Awful Wars the Woe for Waratars by one point
on the weekend and probably should have lost. And do
you reckon? That's the rev up they'll need and they've
got to come out firing against the Chiefs this week.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Yeah, I think, well, remember last year they beat the Chiefs.
It was underpowered Chiefs and New Plymouth and then they
were very good for you know, three quarters of the
game and the Trona and the playoffs last year. Then
they won in Brisbane. So yeah, the Reds have there's
no fear, is what I'm saying, and they probably feel
the a couple of tweeks they will be able to
(35:01):
beat us. And the cabin boy is a master. Tate
McDermott at halfback runs the show. I think mccraig day
is the best open side. But not only that, they've
just got all the pieces seemingly right, and now they've
got the junkyard dog is it daily? I forget his name,
that's shy from me, but you know he's scored five
(35:23):
tries in four games with something stupid. And now they've
got a genuine star that's a merged, which I sort
of feel needs to happen a bit like how the
Hurricanes have Peter Larkeye. You go, Okay, this guy is amazing,
can't wait to see what he does. And now they've
got themselves a guy called Tim Ryan. Tim Ryan, Tim Ryan,
(35:44):
thank you for coming along and lining up rugby. But
Chiefs shut down that frickin' Tim Ryan.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
I'm looking forward to seeing the junkyard dog get leader
for the Wallabies play against the All Blacks and be humiliated,
as will happen to every super rugby superstart. I mean
that happens to the All Blacks players when they have
a breakout season and souper and then they jump at
the next level and they'll can't forget South Africa and
you know, be humiliated. It happens to the best of us.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Everyone needs to be humbled the correct meaning of the
word humbled. I hate it when someone wins an award
and they say they're so humbling, or they get a
Queen's birthday honor and they go, oh, it's so humbled.
It's like, that's not being humbled. Being humbled is having
your ass handed to you when you think you're going
to win. So it's the losers who are humbled, the winners.
So stop going up there and claiming some crappy, half
(36:32):
ast moral high ground. I'm humbled. It's like, no, you're not.
You're proud, you're whatever. It is, stoked, thrilled. This is
a real big deal to me. But you're not fucking humbled.
You're humbled as if you fall off the stage and
you know, smash your face or something, then you're kind
of humbled.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
They're feeling almost like self content or I can understand
the selfratulations. You're feeling humbled, you're feeling are almost like
shy of like, oh not me, You're almost you're saying,
I want to be humble in the accepting of this award.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Yeah, I think that what you're after is embarrassed. Embarrassed
as well. I'm embarrassed to beat these guys. If you
said that, then I would accept that. I'd say yes, correct, well,
well said correct use of the English language. But you're
not fucking humbled. You're not humbled. You are just you've won.
You just to go yeah, you're just a guy who's
(37:23):
gone up there and you've decided this is a way
to make me look like a bit of a good
guy as a humble person, just by saying the word
you could just go up there. I'm waiting for the
next person to win a bigger ward to go up
and say humble, humble, humble, humble, humbled. I'm so humble
and I'm humbled. Just remember, if there's one thing you
take away from this award speech, I'm humble. Halla, Halla,
(37:46):
Sit down, bitch, be humble.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Halla, Halla, sit down, bitch. And speaking of getting humbled,
the Rebels are going to get hum humbled against the
Hurricanes on Saturday. The Rebels they're going to get hum
they get humbled, I'd say they're going to get tea bagged.
They're gonna get hummed out, they're gonna get all the
it's going to be a blood bath and that'll be
the end of them and Super Rugby. But I will
(38:09):
say this, a tea bagging in the captain, a tea
bagging in the cake too. It would be fucking hilarious.
Should the unthinkable.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
Happen and he drops it down low. Maybe more he's
kind of got those big fires do.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
A deep squad. I think it'd be funny if the Rebels, somehow,
against all odds, beat the Hurricanes, knocked out the top
team and their final year, then next week beat whoever
they play. Imagine the Rebels one Super Rugby in their
final year. Just I'd almost say it's not going to happen,
almost guaranteed, but just entertain it for a moment in
(38:45):
your mind's eye and think what a joy that would
be should a team who's getting knocked out, What a
finger it would be to the Super Rugby officials, to
everyone who didn't believe them. The haters, I mean, they've
got a They've got that written on the whiteboard in
the changing cheap They sure.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
They should really take the field with plastic spoons over
their eyes to block out the haters, they shure, that's all.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
I think they should do some Kanye style.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
That would be the best way, just to show the
world what they're talking about. We are the Rebels were
blocking out the haters, and then they'd have to take
them off before kicking someone to click them with a
bag or something.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
Yeah, you would have wanted them. Being a literate ye
want to recycle. They maybe use them afterwards for they
can eat some humble pot the hairs. The first viral videos,
i'd say be one of them. I think the first
viral video was David after Dentist. That was the they
say that's the first viral video.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
All about the kid who says, is Charlie bit me
or Charlie bit my finger?
Speaker 1 (39:45):
Yeah, it's another. It's a classic of the genre.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
The Sneezing Panda was early sneezing panda.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Yeah, he sneeze himself off a tree or something. Yeah, yeah,
that was good stuff. I mean, go watch all of these.
Watch I mean, I might give myself a taste. Let's go.
You are right, they are underwhelming fixtures and then we
seven o five Blues against the Fijian Drew at Eden Park.
I'll be doing the commentary for that one, beautiful on
(40:11):
Skysport nine. So shooting I think on Saturday it's a
super Saturday as well. Hurricanes and Rebels and Blues versus
Fiji and drewer all on Skysport nine. To just park
your ass and watch it all. But I'm much going
to be the Canes and the Blues. Just wading through
that mirth totally.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
It feels like it's all set up for Canes Blues
in the sky Stadium, the Cakes, and so we're heading
towards that. If somebody can get in the way, let's
make it the Chiefs please, if the Landers can do
a job in Canberra. I think that's the game that
I'm most interested in watching this weekend.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
It's on immediately after that Blues game. So just sit down,
slob out, make a beast to yourself, make a freak
show yourself, show you make a shit show yourself. Look
straight at Horoshima. I saying, hark up from four point
thirty and watch Rugby Union until midnight and just let
your loved ones walk out on you. Just absolutely engage
yourself with pizza and liquor and just have a good time.
(41:08):
Lock it okay, Urbans, your spirits, your liquor. Not a
big spirits guy, especially not watching sport. I very seldom
straight hard liquor.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
Can Can I tell you a story about covering the
a MP show Stratford AMP show back in the day
is an early reporter sounds like an early reporters go
to the Stratford AMP show. They have Miss Stratford a
m P and they miss whoever their sponsor is, and
there was a Miss super Liquor and that cracked me
out pretty. They came up on stage and the guy
(41:39):
goes here, she is Miss super Liquor and I actually
worked with Miss super Liquor and which she didn't really
realize how I loved it from the start. I thought
was this is fucking hilarious. And she got kind of
pissed off that I love so much of being Miss
super Licker.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Yeah, because she's probably doing it seriously. She's thinking, this
is my big break.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
You know.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
If this goes well, I could be a red Bull
girl and no you're and they're going ha ha haa.
It sounds like they're making it a new window yeah
about you and everything you hold dere.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
But even Miss liquor Land is no better.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
No look a landing, look a land that's no good. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
So I mean it's just anything with liquor in it
is funny. If you're going to sponsor a beauty pageant contestant.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
Yeah, I know it's because it sounds like liquor. Yeah,
I to I get the joke. I think hilarious. They
should do more of it. Yeah, I think we should
probably do a C. A B Good hunch this week.
And I think it's going to be a bit of
a spanking at the one. Yeah, I reckon the Canes.
They're going to absolutely humble the Rebels. They're going to
kick them out of Super Rugby with their pants around
their balm after spanking them Jesus out of them. So
(42:39):
let's do a fatal three way three Hurricanes to score
in that game.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
We've already done this one we have. Yeah, that was
the one we did twenty minutes ago.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
I think you might have lost your mind and forgotten
about what we were talking about on the podcast and
off the podcast. Oh right, but that's all right.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
Oh was that when we were in the Was that
when we were in the break?
Speaker 1 (42:58):
Yeah? I think you've as well.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
So anyway, this is this is my this is my
idea for a for a beat. You've got to come
up with your own one. This is so thank you
for taking for reminding me that this wasn't on here.
But I'm saying we get all more A TJ. Peanada
and whoever's playing on the left wing, Rayasi or keeting
in a hole or yeah, I'm quite happy to take
a moreby and maybe say any three of those four
(43:24):
if that's an option as well, because I think he's
due a try and he's well, he's due a try.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
Okay, I like that. I'm happy just to not go
back there. I'm happy to just say, let's go with that.
I might do my own one as well. I reckon
the Highlanders to win twelve and under and to mostly
nay to score a try. Well, tally those up and
chuck one hundred bones on a hundred bonus bits in fact,
so that is the Highland of twelve and under and
(43:52):
to score a.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
Try and that's all right, we're done.
Speaker 1 (43:54):
Yeah, I think. I think if that's fine and done,
that's the that's the the team's selection we go for.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
You come up with one that I was already so,
I didn't realize we did that off here. It's sorry.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
People makes me wonder what you think is on the
podcast and what you think is off the podcast.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
All I know is what's on the podcast could get
us into some strife. But hey, we've done that from
day one, and who gives a ship?
Speaker 1 (44:18):
Amen, you gotta Ryan Croddy You gotta fly the sun.
You gotta fly close to the sun, otherwise you would
never see if these wings will stick. That's the whole,
that's the the echo of story in a nutshell. You've
got to test it out and go the high on us.
By the way, no one believe, we'll make them believe
on Saturday night.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
Up the chiefs and we'll see you next week.
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by James mcconey who was absolutely champing at the bit
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introduce myself on a hack podcast week these days?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Allow myself to introduce myself. Yeah, that's one of the
greatest gags in a movie that has sort of where
they stumbled or across something so simple. Yes, it's so effective.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Yeah, you know, Austin Powers underrated, just a great film.
I didn't hear the thing of doing another one, and
when I heard that, I thought, not required.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Have you heard they're doing another Happy Gilmore again?
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Not required?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Yeah, it's funny because it's moving. I mean, shoota McGavin's
got his whole life on cameo or one of those
here has websites where you can get a shout out
for him for tur undred and fifty bucks, and I
think the Chiefs got one from him where he sort
of had a feud of Kendrick versus Drake beef with
imaginary of course with Shooter Stevenson. Yeah, of course instead
(01:27):
of instead of they've used that device. But I was
looking at him, going, he's definitely senior tour now he
looks Shoot mcgevin.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
One hundred and eighty five years old. He's rarely gone
to the dogs, he's gray, he's absolutely he's a shit
show man. And because Happy Gilmen must have come out
in nineteen oh one, like you think about when it
actually came out, it's not a recent film, and I
just think it's a perfect film. It's a perfect sports movie.
So it's relatable to this podcast. We don't need to
fuck with it. We don't need to go release another
one unless the second movie is also perfect, which you know,
(01:59):
my gut Lloyin's my girth tells me that it's not
going to be.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
But well, grown Ups wasn't great, but they made grown
Ups too. And remember there was that that podcast, was
that Tim Batt It certainly was and Nick Sampson Goy Montgomery.
I believe Going Montgomery the worst idea ever? Is it
worse time? Oh? Sorry, it was Nick Sampson and Going Montgomery.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
No it wasn't.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
It was Tim batt and Go Montgomery.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
There we go. You had the first time.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
And that whole The fact that a bad sequel can
be made after a bad movie just shows that there's
no way they're going to not make this film. But
the issue is that Happy Gilmour. It's the distance between.
Sometimes you say it's a good idea. I remember like
thinking when Star Wars when they finally made the other ones, Shit,
(02:42):
that's an eternity. But it's actually not as as big
as the gap, even though those were prequels. Yeah, I'm
just saying Return of the Jedi was eighty two, eighty three,
and then I think it was around the turn of
the century they George was back with Phantom Menaced one
or ninety nine won, and so I was like, okay,
that's mess of seventeen years. But holy shit, I'd say
(03:04):
Happy Gilmore would be what late nineties.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Yeah, I'd say, if not, if not ninety ninety nine
as well, almost maybe the same time as I mean,
I certainly was running around pretending to be Happy Gilmore
for a while there.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Yeah, so there you go. It's it's it's a big
long time between drinks, long time between power.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Yeah, that's a drink. I think it's gatorade data rade
now getting my head water boys and my Happy Girl
was saying water sucks gatorades better, which again wrong film Happy.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
The thing about Happy Gilmore is, I think you're right
in terms of being a perfect movie tied up with
a bow. Everything happened, and everybody forgave it for tying
things up with a bow because we wanted chew them
again and to suffer. We wanted Happy to be the hero,
get the girl, Grandma gets the house. What else can
you do? Is it going to be developers from one
of those corporations that are around Auckland, Yeah, coming in
(03:53):
and bowling granny's house. Are they going Toby over one hundred.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Going to bring Chubbs back from the deer with another
arm with the crocodile like this they made up in Heaven.
It was perfectly tied off with a bow. I mean,
she's definitely dead, Granny. She was about ninety eight years old.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
It's funny how a character like Chubbs who is an
integral part of the movie, but you know it's a
minor role but major impact. It's like that guy from Dodgeball.
You can dodge a ranch. If you can dodge a ranch,
you can dodge a ball. Chubbs is dead as well
rip Torn certainly as Ripped Torn. Chubbs is dead in
real life as well. There's been a lot of Apollo
(04:28):
Creed right seize people.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Yeah. I don'tink it's his birth name, but yeah, he
has Apollo Creed. And I challenge any other rugby podcast
to start with about ten minutes on Happy Gilmore.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Well, one thing I would say with Happy Gilmour was
being able to get people to believe that some guy
who was shot at hockey but had so much power.
Adam Sandler sneakily puts an sporting prowess into a lot
of his movie. In Grown Ups, he was the three point.
He was the Steph Curry of that team.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
He was and in the Longest Yard, I believe he's
playing basketball and the prison and is it. Robert Redford
is like he's a natural athlete. You can't teach that.
He was just like he picked up basketball and was
instantly perfect that. I think he was literally a quarterback
in the Longest Yard. He was an NFL quality quarterback
right who were going off the rail drink driving went
to jail? Is it Robert Redford? Whoever that old man
(05:19):
is and the longest Yard? Yes, it's it's not Robert,
I mean not Robert red We're working it. No, it
certainly isn't. It's another guy.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
He's there's a Billy, Bob Thornton.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
He's had a lot of work done. Whoever it is?
Speaker 2 (05:32):
No, No, that's that's Friday Night Lights, isn't it? Of
all my American football movies get sort of they bleed
into one. And it's always tough because you know, al
Pacino is obviously delivering the speech on any given Sunday.
Are you googling right now?
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Burt Reynolds is the name of the guy. Yeah, Bert Reynolds,
he's the classic. He's a natural athlete. You can't teach that,
which you know, I've actually adopted that as my personal mantra.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
But do you know how hard golfers?
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Yeah? I know that it's so hard. Yeah, it's almost impossible.
And I but what I find interaling with golfers every
now and again, you can hit it if you can
get a bertie. The pros are getting birdies every now
and again. I can be as good as a pro.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Or Adam Sanders getting birdie. Happy Girl was happy Girl
was getting birdies all the time. And pretty much from
the get go, he's winning giant checks and putting them
in the back of his car.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Yes, and next happy to learn how to part.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
It's right.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
I'm gonna watch it immediately after this. But I guess
we probably talk about rugby. Let's talk about it, and
I mean, we're done and dusted with the regular season.
The Crusaders see you later, Bye bye, on let the
door hit you on the back of the but we're
leaving each shit and die. You're gone. No Crusaders in
the postseason of Super Rugby for the first time in
(06:54):
something like seventeen years, they're going there out of here.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Can we just rewind a bit what you said about
shoot him Agevin? Yes, he's great. He's a ship show
of a man.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
He is. I mean, you're not great.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
I am great.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
You're you're you're sort of like Sultan Pepper. I believe
that you're caught. Yeah, you're sort of like salt. You're like,
what's the song they sing.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
And me talk about things?
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Let's talk about Yeah, so you're talking about that's fine
your soul pepper. He's he looks like he saw Horashima
in person. He's not looking great. Okay, he's absolutely because
I think he's great. Save he's done some had some
work done as well. So yeah, when you have work
done and then you still age, so you just look
like maybe you've been bit.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
I feel like it's a country western song. Have you
seen that? He's a ship Joe man. He's great and
the ship Joe a man. But the thing is, we
can make that song another time we're here to talk
about certainly.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
I mean I'm in it, and firstly, I think it's
fine because I find of round like he's going to
hear this singly.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
It looks like seeing Haroshima person.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
A man. I thought that was a pretty good way
to describe a guy that's not too offensive.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
It's pretty offensive a rating.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
It he was. I mean, he was just there for
a nuclear bomb in the proximity, So he's sort of
he's a bit worn and with it. Okay, he's seen
the sun, he's send the inside of a sun bed
has shoot him again. Oh God, look at him.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Oh it's a ship show of a man.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
He looks like he's a polaroid picture and it hasn't
quite developed.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Probably isn't shaken like they should shake it, shake it,
shake it, shake it like a polaroid picture. We're talking
about outcast, We're talking about Andre three thousand.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Pre breakers say this, they're gone. In the middle of
the breaker bombs over bag Dad. They're they're going, They're
out of here. They yeah, I feel like it's It
would have been a scandal.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
You know, they like to think this ship.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Don't think that they do, but if you lean a
bit closer, it smells like whoo hoo hoooo. I think
it would have been a scandal and we should have
canceled the competition had the Crusaders made their finals. I
think it went down to what the Rebels and the
and Ruer playing their last game, and if the Rebels lost,
then the Crusaders would have made it, and that it
(09:18):
would have been ridiculous to win what three games all
season and be like, yeah, you're into the quarters.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Yeah, there would have been no justice. But at the
same time, all my goodness What a storyline because that
would have been the cat amongst the kid to do
you check the Crusaders in that eighth seed going up
to Wellington. What a game that would have been. Because
I not that I want to jump ahead, but I
feel like all the quarterfinals, well the majority are a
(09:46):
little bit meh. But yes, you've got obviously the Reds
are pretty good coming to play the Chiefs on Friday night.
But your Landers going over to the Brumbies, that's the
one where you could go, well, can they do something?
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Yeah, your best case scenario for me as a Highlanders
fan was that was against the Brummis and I think
that was basically locked in very very early doors. I
don't even think we needed to play that game against
the Hurricanes. That was just to ensure they were top seed.
And so that was actually the Highlanders did that. I
want to put that on the record. The Highlanders tank
that game, that that was an accurate representation of where
(10:22):
the teams are out. The Highlanders thought, we don't need
to win this. Let's not go too hard. We don't
want to hurt ourselves here, let's just get through the
game with no injuries. We actually want the Hurricanes on
the top because you know, imagine if they fell over
against the Rebels at home in the quarter finals, will
that be a laugh that? So I think that's the
Highlanders intentionally cad amongst the pigeoning it.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
There's no there's no way that's going to happen. But no,
you're right, you guys could win in the camera, but
it's only is it Wednesday morning? When do they name?
They name the teams today we're actually recording before they've
named the teams. But you really name with confidence and authority.
You're starting type five.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
No, I think it's too close and big old Holland, Yes,
you've got them chucked in there for sure. I mean,
Henry Ball seems to be playing the house down at Hooker,
sort of a bit of a revelation down there. But
other than that, I mean, I know Jermaine Ains has
sort of been dancing around are the other props, so
maybe he'll be there. But it is tough, and I
(11:22):
think the whole team does seem to have been shuffled
every week, week in, week out. I'm not sure it's
due to injuries or quite where we're at, but I think,
I mean, that could be the one where we do
surprise some people, but I do sometimes think my Kiwi
buy a show is because I just instantly picked all
the New Zealand teams to win those games, and the
Australian teams have been better. I mean, the Brummys have
(11:43):
won twelve out of fourteen, which is just as many
as the Blues and the Hurricanes. We keep saying, oh,
the Canes and the Blues the high fight, but the
Brummies are just as high flying as the Blues and
the Hurricanes and one as many games. The reason that
they're not on the top of the table is bonus
put and bonus points have been the deciding favor this
(12:04):
this whole Super Rugby campaign, it has all been decided
by bonus points. I mean, apart from the bottom four,
they only won four games and the Warratas are miserable
two games. What's going on with Sydney. But yeah, the
rest of the whole table basically decided by bonus points.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
I've got a theory about bonus points. It's a bit
of a ship one, but I'll share it anyway. Man.
It's that if you're playing and both teams need bonus points.
For example, the Blues and the Hurricanes on that night
and one team's playing in torrential rain it's a shit
show over night, then your chance of getting the three
(12:40):
more tries is hugely reduced. Whereas if anyone's playing under
that roof of yours down and donners, then it can
be a bit of a recipe for bonus points if
you dominate the game. The one issue for the Landers
is that every team that goes down there quite enjoys
playing under the roof, and they might actually get close
to you. So I'm I'm thinking that you guys may
(13:02):
not have a lot of bonus points or attacking ones
this season. Yeah, it's hard to tell. It doesn't show
on the table.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Certainly doesn't show on the table. I mean you can
do that the rudimentary maths if you say, well, the
Highlanders won six games, ended up on twenty eight points,
so six times four is your classic twenty four So
only yes, four bonus points. But I mean, who knows
if they're wanting or losing, is it?
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Yeah, So that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
And losing bonus point, get rid of it. That's my
that's my hot take. Get rid of it. Losing bonus point,
you're a loser. You're a chump. I don't want to
see people getting one point for a bonus point.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
For we got close, so we got a ribbon.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Yeah, it's really get rid of it. I mean, I
know they're trying to motivate people to play an attacking
brand of rugby, which is more enticing to watch. I
think that's the reason they have bonus points. But I
think it shouldn't be three tries ahead. I think it
should be even making it, make it more, make it
even a harder thing. You've got to really thump the
team to get them threes. Two threes too few tries
(14:02):
to get a bonus point.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
It used to be four tries you get a bonus point,
but it didn't matter if the other team had scored
four as well. Yeah, so it was like a winning
bonus point. I get what they've had that gap thing
put in there, and I think they're saying that that's
a trashing, that's a pattern.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
I actually do like the losing bonus point because if
you have a heartbreaker and there's a Rugby is such
a weird game with all those last minute penalties. Not
that I'm going to harp on, but the Luke Jacobson
one the other week against the Hurricanes, where it was like,
is that going to decide the game, it's going to
decide the game. I sort of feel that you probably
(14:40):
do deserve a bonus point. It's still a bit of
a pulling your pants down at home. Someone's walking away
with four points and you're going back to you know
what do you call it? The recovery session the next
day and nobody's hooting and yahooeing because you're lost.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Yeah, you do?
Speaker 2 (14:58):
You still I don't know think that last game. I
know that you're yeah, I mean NRL they do that,
don't they You're a loser? Yeah, they say golden point?
Too bad? Eat ship, eat ship? Is it two points
for a win? In the NRL?
Speaker 1 (15:10):
It is two points? Two points for a win, and
that's a Rugby's gone for a buy?
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Yeah, Rugby's gone big into the until those points, haven't They.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Nothing for a buy? And Rugby as well, which I
feel like maybe you should get a little handshake, a
little no focus on the lips. No, no, no, I
guess it makes it a pointless, doesn't it, because everyone
gets the same.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Everyone gets it. No, you should know exactly what you've
earned it should be on the table.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Yeah, but okay, I would throw and apologize if you.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
I just feel like they're losing bonus point does make
sense in some way.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Well you say that, but then the Warata has won
two games all season and ended up on thirteen points
on the table, which is they've won another game and
losing bonus points, and you think that should be rewarded.
That's what you're saying, reward the worst teams. A thirteen point.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Might might have been a winning bonus point.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Well potentially two of them could have been.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Very So I'm saying no, no, one of them isn't
because they have a golden point win against.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
That and that is a real heartbreak and very funny.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
It's so I know that because they're that bad that
you remember one time they got up.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
They really did, as I was at the after the hooter,
when they could have just drawn it out slightly longer.
The Crusaders, what do you reckon, Rod Penny, He's got
to go sort of a bit of a sign to
the masses that they're making some sort of change. Or
do you think they'll double down and say no, we
are in for a penny, in for a pound. Oh yeah,
(16:34):
that's good stuff.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Everty years that on, I wonder where the Rob Penny
was a popular choice. So the CEO would have probably
had the right of veto or maybe the casting vote
for Rob Penny. But it did feel like a step
back in time, and when you had all of Rays's
deputies being overlooked, I wonder how that went down. And
(16:58):
so this is the thing, is ken Rob Penny not
only when the changing room, but when the coaches offers too.
So if that's too hard, then I would say no
more Rob Penny. But if they are really and they
have to do, they have to do a real secret,
super secret hr move here to say is everybody okay
(17:19):
with Rob? And they'd say, look, I'm not going to
do this thing on survey Monkey. I know that you'll
basically be able to know who I am and I'm
not going to use my own handwriting. But he's a
freaking nightmare. Please save me from this hell.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
They need an anonymous box that has a stamp and
a rating from one to from ten to fire them.
And so you just stamp on the line we want
and no fingerprints, no fingerprint loves so you can put
it and you can't trace it. Back. You do the
invisible link with the potato and the and the black light.
You know, yeah, that's nice. You don't want to get
(17:55):
a black light to cluster. Some of those guys, though,
they'll light up to mad Mad Monday that we absolutely dripping,
and it probably is Mad Monday this week. So some
of those are the Crusaders. It would have been weird
for them. I mean, they have it, not celebrated a
championship in seven years.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
So I think if they can do it secretly, they
can roll them. But if they're happy with Rob, if
everyone's sampy with Rob, this is the thing. I don't
know what's going on at the Crusaders. If everyone says, no,
he's a good bustard, then give him another chance.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Yeah, you think he will get one. It's a very funny.
His name is Rob Penny. It's like a you know, Rob,
it's an action. How many what are you gonna do?
Speaker 2 (18:30):
I'm Pennie?
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Yeah, and you know penies is a type of money.
It's not great. What else is there? Rob Pennie? Thou
found Bertha to do?
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (18:38):
I like that said something something something. It's half form thought.
He is obviously a local guy from from Marlborough. So
maybe that dead factor into his hiring that.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
When you go to walk down the streets of Marlborough,
someone's listened to this podcast and see you said to
get rid of Rob Penny.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
I never see to get rid of them. All I'll
say is he called him a shit show a man. No,
that was shoot him Gavin.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
The Crusaders are fame for having this, you know, young
modern coaching style, right Razor. He's all about, you know,
taking your sword into battle. He's got themed for campaigns.
The players will love him because he's young and relatable.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
The Battle of Asian Korps.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
And then they go and do the opposite, get an
old school, hard assed principal type and to come and
take over and it is it doesn't seem to mold
to what they've created the whole brand on.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Could they do a SA saving Private Ryan Croddy. I
think they might have to. That'd be quite good day
as a theme for the season. I think we've got
to go in and save Ryan Kroddy.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
He again, I wanted him with his beard back. Ryan Crotty.
It was great to see him play that last game
down there at whatever the stadium, is these days.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
It was nice seeing someone who's so genuine and a
lovely bloke just say this was my dream. I live
my dream. Everybody else get fucked. I think that's what
he said live on Scott.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
I heard him that actually a white, a white mouthguard,
just there's an aside, really does make it look like
you've got incredible teeth. He stands up from scoring a try,
he's happy, big smile, big grin, and I was like,
look at this guy's teeth. You know AT's found out.
Obviously he's wearing a mouthguard.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
But he looks perfect in that mouthguard. I always wish
I had. I had one of those like semi opaque ones,
and it always looked average because you could see the
outline of your teeth. I want one of the solid white.
You look like Barney the Dinosaur. And it's cool.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Yeah, it is cool, very very cool. I always wore
a blue and yellow one seat of just running the
Highlanders Vibe. Played for a varsity indeed, and so that
was also our color. So that was how I took it.
When I say a quick break, Now we've had enough
hearing about my mouthguard, and is there any feeling better
than molding a mouthguard. Just if we do take a break.
(20:46):
That bit when you take it out of the cup
of hot water, you're popping in your gob, you squeeze
at your teeth, feel sensitive. You put it in the
cold water and you put it back in your mouth
and it cools the gums down. That'll that's how you
feel alive.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
That's a great one. And then you trimme it a
little bit with some scissors, just a little bit of trimmage.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Got a trim, You got a trim I actually might.
I mean I haven't played raby a long time, but
I might mold a mouthguard. We might take a break
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Text heat and your super team to three two three
six to be able to win a double pass your
team's next home match. And we're sort of were saying
earlier that it's a bit of a of a weird situation,
and I think it's widely agreed upon that eight teams
is too many in a twelve team comp to go
through to a quarter finals. It would have been an
atrocity the likes that Danil would have been seen and
(21:43):
New Zealand rugby of the Crusaders slipped through there. And
so apparently next year they're going to change it. And
this is I've just been handed this piece of paper
by one of the producers here at the ACC. So
this is what they have said. That the first would
top six qualify from the eleven teams because of the
rebels are obviously gone, and then eliminating two qualifiers and
(22:06):
the quarter finals at a hole, so there would be
no quarter finals, which just the top six, which I
think we can agree is legit and fair. No one
would be grudge seeing only six teams go through, and
the teams who finished first and second on the ladder
would be afforded a week's rest. And I guess this
is like the NRL, isn't it. And the teams three
to six playoff against each other, and then the two
(22:28):
winners of those first matches then advance and play teams
one and two in semi finals and that's the same
thing they're doing so on and so on, and we
all I think that's the obvious way to do it.
When I hear this, though, the first thing I think
of is do you want to take a week off
if you're coming into form late in the piece, if
(22:49):
you're in second maybe you've battled your way up the table,
you've won, you've won, you've won, you've won. Do you
want to rest?
Speaker 2 (22:56):
In contact sport? Yes, you want it? Yeah, I think so.
It didn't seem to in football. I mean it's sort
of worked. But let's just say the difference of the
A League as they play a home and away semi finals.
So in the end, what we're saying is that those
top teams will get a home semi and they will
have the rest. I think the rest will work for them.
(23:17):
Everybody will enjoy that. You think about any player who's
got a little injury, something that's just been bagging them.
They come through, they get another week to recover, everything's
going to be there'll be tickety boo. And I think
from all the evidence that they say it's a bit
like how they say travel effects teams. They say that
the rest makes a real big difference in the final
(23:38):
quarter and all the guys who you are asking to
play eighty minutes, which is how many reserves are there,
eight reserves seven yeah, eight yeah, so eight reserves, so
seven players you're asking to go the full eighty Then
that makes a big difference to those guys into your
overall performance. So yeah, I reckon it's good. I think
(23:59):
it's a better thing because right now, statistically, it's harder
to miss out on the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Yeah, you have to be pretty shit, yeah, to miss
out on the playffs, to be a pretty atrocious team
down there at the top of the South Island to
miss out in the playoffs, Yeah, I think as well
any sort of you know, maybe if you lose any
sort of rhythm by having a week off, it's more
than made up for by resting. And also you'd have
to think that that first qualifier that the other teams
(24:26):
have to play, that'll be a step up from regular
season as well. They both come to play it's knockout footy,
so they'll have a good old fashioned crash bash ding dong,
and they're going to come out of that with some injuries,
some niggle, they'll be sore, they'll be hurting and then
you have to go into another one and you know
you might have a week off, you might hit one
of those teams, and that's just a bridge too far.
So you think it would have to benefit those teams
(24:48):
that do get a week off. And in this instance,
I mean, if we were to play that this year
and hypothetically go through what they might look like. It
would be the Fijian drew and the Rebels who drop off,
the Highlanders and the Brumbies would play in one of
the qualifiers, and the Reds and the Chiefs and the other,
and then the winners of those who played the Blues
in the hurricane exactly, And you'd think that's probably about right.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
That's it's about right, that's okay. So format will change.
We're still waiting for something like America to get a
super Rugby Seamans and I think that'll happen that the
sort of they're gathering their forces, they're trying to work
out what happens. Who's going to be the bed. I
think it'll be a West coast thing. I think it'll
be La and they will say we want in, We're ready,
We've got the money, we've got the stadium and everything sorted.
(25:32):
They haven't. No, they're one. They'll there'll be a home stadium.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
To say stadium, yeah okay, but they need it.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
They need a good home ground. Yeah, that's the thing
that the LA.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
They do it in La Or.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
I think Lay they'll push for that direct flight. There
is a rugby community there. The Ala San Diego area
has got rugby people in it, and San Diego probably
more so. But I can't see it just being a
soul San Diego team. I'd say they'd need the l
A money. Yeah, and that's where all the sun wales Vagina.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Yeah, there we go. Yeah, I think that's I mean,
that's enticing, that's exciting me. I'm thinking of myself. Shit,
I might have to see my CV over there to
podcast for them. Yeah, hey, you guys need a podcast.
Surely they're all about content over there, right, that's your
Snoop dogg in to be an ambassador.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
But if you're straight away you see the billionaire owner
and you say, he's great. What a ship show of
a man that would be?
Speaker 1 (26:28):
You know, I hope it's not shooting McGavin because the
only person I've caught a ship show a man is
shoot himcgavn okay, and I will go a record and say, Shooter,
if you do own the LA rugby team in the future,
I withdraw and apologize. You look great, Keep on, keep
on looking into the sun.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
He went over to Japan. Yeah, the whole came down.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Yep. I said the wrong word there. So if anyone
heard me mentioned the H word underneath your singing, please
that's my bad. Okay, they cut that out, But I
believe everything should make it on to the final pot cast.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Yeah, I mean, we're we're this far into this podcast
that anything that happened to it. I mean, I'm expecting
Glane to just come in with it literal acts and
you say it's over.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Guys, we're done here. Please stop saying that the Holocaust
looks good on you, which is what I did say.
I apologize. I meant the hiorshima, but.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Sorry I missed that.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Yeah, I regret re why even coming back, and I've
doubled down underlying double down. Let's talk about these goddamn
quarter finals. Let's go unless there's that bigger issue you
want to get off your chest.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
One thing I'd just like to say is the Blues
absolutely had a shock and they whiff. They kicked themselves.
How do you kick yourself? Can be done? They kicked
themselves in the deck, and which would be almost like
a sort of like one of those Russian Cossack dancers.
They could kick themselves in the deck.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
They could. You could also knee yourself in the teeth.
I've done any one time, and I quite get it right,
and I need myself and the teeth, and it really sucked.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Well, let's say they kicked themselves in the dick and
need themselves in the teeth. No, not getting that bonus
point when all they needed to do was hold out
the chiefs, And I thought that was pretty shite.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Yeah, it's a wide the humiliator and the chiefs. Good
on them as well for being like this means nothing
to us. This is completely pointless. But we know it
would be annoying for them to do it, so give
it a whirl. And they waltzed it exactly.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
The chiefs are saying, we're going to just do the thing. Well,
we're going to trip down, stay higher one in the bus,
and like that's that's what we have to do. Whereas
you guys, at the end of the game, you'll win
without a bonus point, so when you go around and
get yourselfies, you'll be just so annoyed.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
I couldn't help but think though the Chiefs would almost
want to the Blues to.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Be totally, it's a fuck up from the Chiefs as
a fan. As a fan, I was going, you need
to let them, let them Blues score again, or do something,
or don't try so hard because for us, for the Chiefs,
it's like a trip up State High Ones. Easy pack
out the stadium, it's half half almost Yeah, the Chiefs
Blues games the big Ones and going down to Wellington
(29:07):
is tough.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
I couldn't get my head around the decision at the time.
I thought, why are you doing this? And also I
live in Auckland. I would prefer a final in Auckland.
I'd go along. It'd be fun. I'm not gonna going,
I mean i'd go to as an impartial I'd go
to the final. I'll go to sup Rugby final in
Auckland of course, be the first one here since I
mean the Super Rugby trans tasm one which obviously has
a huge astix beside it. For the Blues fans, if
you're listening.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Oh no, they had the Did they host one against
the Crusaders and the Crusaders got up?
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Oh? They cill.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
I call it the Oli Yaeger Final because I thought
he was exceptional.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
It's for a prop to get some creepit.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
I know he didn't. He didn't actually get mad at
the match. I'm like Oli Yeager was the best player.
He took all. He was running first receiver. He give
it out the back to Warner like they do in
those plays. But if you're running that pod perfectly, then
Oli Yaeger take a bow. That was your final.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Yeah, and I mean the Jaeger bombs would have flown surely.
I mean, have you met him there he don a
Yager bomb with him?
Speaker 2 (30:00):
No, I haven't. I think he's got a mixed up accent.
Is he part Irish Payert, English part key?
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Is he sound the sort of like he's just been
in the dentist?
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (30:09):
That strike me as he might have it, but I
don't know. But he's a mouthful. Well, the Chiefs, I
mean they're kicking it off on Friday against the Reds.
I'm assuming you're commentating that one for the ACC.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Yeah, it's going to be a horrible biased commentary, but
I'm worried about the Reds with McCrate day probably the
best number seven. He's probably I'd say he'd been number
one on Turn of Us. I couldn't find the stat
because as soon as you google Super Rugby stats, it
gives you stuff from like flankers from yester year come up.
It's like, oh George Smith, right cool, yes they yeah,
(30:40):
it's sculp Berger, great Super Rugby.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
If you listening, we love you. I mean, we have
a whole podcast dedicated toy at the stage. But so
what you shout out the fact that there's no one website.
There's Super Rugby. I'll say, oh, there's Super Rugby Pacific.
There's all different forms of information coming at you. There's
not even a website where you can go and look
at all the current teams, the competition.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
I kind of I go to Rugby Pass just because
it has the best coverage of all the games. But
you're right in terms of it's insane. But the weird
thing is they don't do play proper player profiles anymore,
which fucking pisses me off. It's like, just give me
like where they're from and what school they went to
in their club team. I like all their information and
I like to know a little sort of just you know,
(31:22):
fifty words on how they came through and they started
off on the wider training or whatever it is, and
then their dad played for Hawks Bay as well or something.
I mean, I like all that.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
I'm gonna have to get in touch with a super
rugby and maybe I'll do it. I'll volunteer attribute to
do it myself next year. I can't go to Rugby Pass.
It's just I mean, it's good information, but you just
got to wade through them absolutely getting down on both
knees for Anton the pond. I just can't do it.
There are every content piece they do is look at
how great this guy is.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
That World Rugby.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Saturday, No, no rugby pass. If you follow anything, it's
every single post is that go has Land, that look
at this guy the greatest rugby player of all time.
It's it's insane to me that they're so into this
one player because it gets a rise out of Southern hems.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
No, No, it's because they finally got a player who
at that point in time was the best. Right he
was the best player in the world. He deserved the
World Rugby Player of the year. But you look at
all the players who have won their award and never
kept the status of best in the world. You have
to win it over and over again, multiple times. I
think Richie only won it twice? Did he Richie.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Mccaugh I think he did one in a couple of times.
I mean DC's one of a couple of bodies.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Retallics won one.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Yeah once. What a year he had as well. But
the win forward wins it. Even when a naughty flanker
wins it, that's when you know that they are an
out and out superstar.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Yeah. Last year, Al he won it and you can't
take that away from him. But after that World Cup final,
they should have just gone old shit, it's Peters. Yeah,
it's Peter Stiff, it's pull the pen, it's pull the
it's him. He just basically won the fucking World Cup final. Yeah,
he was the best player by miles. Like, if you're
doing player rankings, it's Peter Stiff to toy and the risk.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Yeah, it's like giving Darren Lockyer the player of the
match in the two thousand and eight Rugby League World
Cup Final and the Kiwi's won. You know, you don't
give it that player you give it to someone and
the team that won.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
They won the thing. They should have just scrapped the
whole thing and just said, as Peter Stiff, sorry, Adie,
I think you're amazing, but oh yeah, we love you.
But it was just yeah, it was remember Locke, Oh
my god, that was terrible that.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
How many dollars do you think Artie's lost in bitcoin?
Do you think he's how is he promoting bitcoin? No,
he's just a big crypto guy. In the heyday, it
was all about it. I do remember listening to a
podcast where he said he tried to negotiate some of
us into our contract to get paid in cryptocurrency, and
they said, no, we're not doing that. But you have
to think some of those guys, I know TJ was
a big crypto guy. That Wellington. I think crew was
(33:58):
right into it. You have to imagine this been a
little bit of devaluation. We don't get stuck into the
weeds of their financial affairs, but just something to mull over.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Yeah, it's the crypto thing is quite interesting because a
made of mine said he's made a lot of money
from bitcoin and he's kind of flexing a bit and
I'm going good on you. But he is living at
his ex girlfriend's place currently. But it's I mean, I'm.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Sure he can get that because life's ruined.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
He's not.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
The Reds just to stay on the Chiefs game for
one more moment. They only just won to the Hapless Warts,
the Awful Wars the Woe for Waratars by one point
on the weekend and probably should have lost. And do
you reckon? That's the rev up they'll need and they've
got to come out firing against the Chiefs this week.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Yeah, I think, well, remember last year they beat the Chiefs.
It was underpowered Chiefs and New Plymouth and then they
were very good for you know, three quarters of the
game and the Trona and the playoffs last year. Then
they won in Brisbane. So yeah, the Reds have there's
no fear, is what I'm saying, and they probably feel
the a couple of tweeks they will be able to
(35:01):
beat us. And the cabin boy is a master. Tate
McDermott at halfback runs the show. I think mccraig day
is the best open side. But not only that, they've
just got all the pieces seemingly right, and now they've
got the junkyard dog is it daily? I forget his name,
that's shy from me, but you know he's scored five
(35:23):
tries in four games with something stupid. And now they've
got a genuine star that's a merged, which I sort
of feel needs to happen a bit like how the
Hurricanes have Peter Larkeye. You go, Okay, this guy is amazing,
can't wait to see what he does. And now they've
got themselves a guy called Tim Ryan. Tim Ryan, Tim Ryan,
(35:44):
thank you for coming along and lining up rugby. But
Chiefs shut down that frickin' Tim Ryan.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
I'm looking forward to seeing the junkyard dog get leader
for the Wallabies play against the All Blacks and be humiliated,
as will happen to every super rugby superstart. I mean
that happens to the All Blacks players when they have
a breakout season and souper and then they jump at
the next level and they'll can't forget South Africa and
you know, be humiliated. It happens to the best of us.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Everyone needs to be humbled the correct meaning of the
word humbled. I hate it when someone wins an award
and they say they're so humbling, or they get a
Queen's birthday honor and they go, oh, it's so humbled.
It's like, that's not being humbled. Being humbled is having
your ass handed to you when you think you're going
to win. So it's the losers who are humbled, the winners.
So stop going up there and claiming some crappy, half
(36:32):
ast moral high ground. I'm humbled. It's like, no, you're not.
You're proud, you're whatever. It is, stoked, thrilled. This is
a real big deal to me. But you're not fucking humbled.
You're humbled as if you fall off the stage and
you know, smash your face or something, then you're kind
of humbled.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
They're feeling almost like self content or I can understand
the selfratulations. You're feeling humbled, you're feeling are almost like
shy of like, oh not me, You're almost you're saying,
I want to be humble in the accepting of this award.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Yeah, I think that what you're after is embarrassed. Embarrassed
as well. I'm embarrassed to beat these guys. If you
said that, then I would accept that. I'd say yes, correct, well,
well said correct use of the English language. But you're
not fucking humbled. You're not humbled. You are just you've won.
You just to go yeah, you're just a guy who's
(37:23):
gone up there and you've decided this is a way
to make me look like a bit of a good
guy as a humble person, just by saying the word
you could just go up there. I'm waiting for the
next person to win a bigger ward to go up
and say humble, humble, humble, humble, humbled. I'm so humble
and I'm humbled. Just remember, if there's one thing you
take away from this award speech, I'm humble. Halla, Halla,
(37:46):
Sit down, bitch, be humble.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Halla, Halla, sit down, bitch. And speaking of getting humbled,
the Rebels are going to get hum humbled against the
Hurricanes on Saturday. The Rebels they're going to get hum
they get humbled, I'd say they're going to get tea bagged.
They're gonna get hummed out, they're gonna get all the
it's going to be a blood bath and that'll be
the end of them and Super Rugby. But I will
(38:09):
say this, a tea bagging in the captain, a tea
bagging in the cake too. It would be fucking hilarious.
Should the unthinkable.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
Happen and he drops it down low. Maybe more he's
kind of got those big fires do.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
A deep squad. I think it'd be funny if the Rebels, somehow,
against all odds, beat the Hurricanes, knocked out the top
team and their final year, then next week beat whoever
they play. Imagine the Rebels one Super Rugby in their
final year. Just I'd almost say it's not going to happen,
almost guaranteed, but just entertain it for a moment in
(38:45):
your mind's eye and think what a joy that would
be should a team who's getting knocked out, What a
finger it would be to the Super Rugby officials, to
everyone who didn't believe them. The haters, I mean, they've
got a They've got that written on the whiteboard in
the changing cheap They sure.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
They should really take the field with plastic spoons over
their eyes to block out the haters, they shure, that's all.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
I think they should do some Kanye style.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
That would be the best way, just to show the
world what they're talking about. We are the Rebels were
blocking out the haters, and then they'd have to take
them off before kicking someone to click them with a
bag or something.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
Yeah, you would have wanted them. Being a literate ye
want to recycle. They maybe use them afterwards for they
can eat some humble pot the hairs. The first viral videos,
i'd say be one of them. I think the first
viral video was David after Dentist. That was the they
say that's the first viral video.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
All about the kid who says, is Charlie bit me
or Charlie bit my finger?
Speaker 1 (39:45):
Yeah, it's another. It's a classic of the genre.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
The Sneezing Panda was early sneezing panda.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Yeah, he sneeze himself off a tree or something. Yeah, yeah,
that was good stuff. I mean, go watch all of these.
Watch I mean, I might give myself a taste. Let's go.
You are right, they are underwhelming fixtures and then we
seven o five Blues against the Fijian Drew at Eden Park.
I'll be doing the commentary for that one, beautiful on
(40:11):
Skysport nine. So shooting I think on Saturday it's a
super Saturday as well. Hurricanes and Rebels and Blues versus
Fiji and drewer all on Skysport nine. To just park
your ass and watch it all. But I'm much going
to be the Canes and the Blues. Just wading through
that mirth totally.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
It feels like it's all set up for Canes Blues
in the sky Stadium, the Cakes, and so we're heading
towards that. If somebody can get in the way, let's
make it the Chiefs please, if the Landers can do
a job in Canberra. I think that's the game that
I'm most interested in watching this weekend.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
It's on immediately after that Blues game. So just sit down,
slob out, make a beast to yourself, make a freak
show yourself, show you make a shit show yourself. Look
straight at Horoshima. I saying, hark up from four point
thirty and watch Rugby Union until midnight and just let
your loved ones walk out on you. Just absolutely engage
yourself with pizza and liquor and just have a good time.
(41:08):
Lock it okay, Urbans, your spirits, your liquor. Not a
big spirits guy, especially not watching sport. I very seldom
straight hard liquor.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
Can Can I tell you a story about covering the
a MP show Stratford AMP show back in the day
is an early reporter sounds like an early reporters go
to the Stratford AMP show. They have Miss Stratford a
m P and they miss whoever their sponsor is, and
there was a Miss super Liquor and that cracked me
out pretty. They came up on stage and the guy
(41:39):
goes here, she is Miss super Liquor and I actually
worked with Miss super Liquor and which she didn't really
realize how I loved it from the start. I thought
was this is fucking hilarious. And she got kind of
pissed off that I love so much of being Miss
super Licker.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Yeah, because she's probably doing it seriously. She's thinking, this
is my big break.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
You know.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
If this goes well, I could be a red Bull
girl and no you're and they're going ha ha haa.
It sounds like they're making it a new window yeah
about you and everything you hold dere.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
But even Miss liquor Land is no better.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
No look a landing, look a land that's no good. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
So I mean it's just anything with liquor in it
is funny. If you're going to sponsor a beauty pageant contestant.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
Yeah, I know it's because it sounds like liquor. Yeah,
I to I get the joke. I think hilarious. They
should do more of it. Yeah, I think we should
probably do a C. A B Good hunch this week.
And I think it's going to be a bit of
a spanking at the one. Yeah, I reckon the Canes.
They're going to absolutely humble the Rebels. They're going to
kick them out of Super Rugby with their pants around
their balm after spanking them Jesus out of them. So
(42:39):
let's do a fatal three way three Hurricanes to score
in that game.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
We've already done this one we have. Yeah, that was
the one we did twenty minutes ago.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
I think you might have lost your mind and forgotten
about what we were talking about on the podcast and
off the podcast. Oh right, but that's all right.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
Oh was that when we were in the Was that
when we were in the break?
Speaker 1 (42:58):
Yeah? I think you've as well.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
So anyway, this is this is my this is my
idea for a for a beat. You've got to come
up with your own one. This is so thank you
for taking for reminding me that this wasn't on here.
But I'm saying we get all more A TJ. Peanada
and whoever's playing on the left wing, Rayasi or keeting
in a hole or yeah, I'm quite happy to take
a moreby and maybe say any three of those four
(43:24):
if that's an option as well, because I think he's
due a try and he's well, he's due a try.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
Okay, I like that. I'm happy just to not go
back there. I'm happy to just say, let's go with that.
I might do my own one as well. I reckon
the Highlanders to win twelve and under and to mostly
nay to score a try. Well, tally those up and
chuck one hundred bones on a hundred bonus bits in fact,
so that is the Highland of twelve and under and
(43:52):
to score a.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
Try and that's all right, we're done.
Speaker 1 (43:54):
Yeah, I think. I think if that's fine and done,
that's the that's the the team's selection we go for.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
You come up with one that I was already so,
I didn't realize we did that off here. It's sorry.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
People makes me wonder what you think is on the
podcast and what you think is off the podcast.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
All I know is what's on the podcast could get
us into some strife. But hey, we've done that from
day one, and who gives a ship?
Speaker 1 (44:18):
Amen, you gotta Ryan Croddy You gotta fly the sun.
You gotta fly close to the sun, otherwise you would
never see if these wings will stick. That's the whole,
that's the the echo of story in a nutshell. You've
got to test it out and go the high on us.
By the way, no one believe, we'll make them believe
on Saturday night.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
Up the chiefs and we'll see you next week.
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