June 10, 2024 • 40 mins
James McOnie joins Tony Lyall for another episode of the Champagne Rugby Pod!
In this episode, the fellas reveal the plans for the All Blacks this year as Razor has five selectors to make sure they get the job done (0:00), then review the one-sided Quarter Finals (14:35) before finally previewing the Semis ahead along with a massive hunch for the TAB (34:14)...
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hey, look as a chef and Baby podcast Sport here
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step to a warm, comfortable home. Thank you very much
for joining us from the Nextport Beer Garden studio. As
always as me, Tony Lyland, James mcconey and James quarter
Final time, Baby Super Rugby. The biggest non event maybe
in rugby history, the quarter finals and we plow through
(00:32):
the semis.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Yeah, it's a big old walk over. Lots of one
sided affairs, a blowout as we call them in the ACC.
You can feel a blowout, you can sense it, and
there were plenty of those. But I think the big
issue now is now that we've lost two of our teams.
The Highlanders joined the Crusaders on the Mad Monday, a
(00:55):
recovery trail and so who though, will raise a pick
in his team because he's gone he's a bit different
this year. He's gone with five selectors. So what he's
done is Leo McDonald, he'll he'll pick the back three,
Jason Holland will do the midfield. Scott Hanson who's their
little ex Crusaders coach, and Hardley little Scott he's gonna
(01:17):
go with the nine and tens Rais is gonna pick
the loose forwards and Jason Ryan will pick the Type five.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Is this your reading of it or is this something
that's been announced? This an announce So they're saying they're
gonna so they're gonna assemble it like Voltron and be like,
these are the best players that I know who do
these three jobs forget about how they work together.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
And if the first five has a shit a Raiser
will just look over at Scott Hanson go, what the
fuck was that?
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Mate?
Speaker 4 (01:42):
You're fired?
Speaker 3 (01:44):
You were killing me here? Foker, please some defense.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Surely the nine and the eights, you know it would
be good if they were familiar with each other.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
You think we want them.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
To there will be lee aising. I feel like it's
around the table.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
There's a whiteboard and there's kind of like, you know,
sweaty brows and like how long are we going to
wait here? Because in the end, Raizer will always have.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
The power of Vito.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
I think in the end even Wayne Smith's going to
be able to stick his or in because he'll be
in the corner just yeah, just just waiting for his moment,
and they'll say like Yoda what do you think?
Speaker 3 (02:16):
And he'll be like.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Love Rubin, He'll be He'll be saying more Crusaders as
they always do. And this is the were the classic
telling Crusaders shit, worst team in the camp, a laughing stock.
We've been ripping on them all season, rob pities, calling
people's sea bombs left front and center. I bet they'll
still have more all blacks than the Highlanders, easily. They'll
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follood the market with Crusaders all blacks. They'll all go
nah nah, different team. And that really gets my goat
because I'd love to see a guy like a rest
of my Tavuki Nepkins, maybe even just get and brought
into the environment, you know that class thing we go.
We just put you in Toto the environment to see.
We want to see a bit closer.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
So I think he is with a chart, so I've
highlighted the positions where there is a little bit of interest,
so the locks, the loose forwards, and the back three.
So Jacob writes in my Tavuke Nepkins Jr. K Rowling,
He's had a huge season and I've got some stats
here that will excite you because in terms of defenders
(03:20):
beaten oh he's up there, but not at the top,
but in terms of meat is made, he's right up there. Yeah,
he's therefore a lot of the stats that you want
from your fallback line breaks. Okay, he didn't make it,
but hey, that's all right. He was he was basically
carries as well. Anyway, he's been going, he's going well.
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But the other thing is he's real quick. And when
it comes to the r blocks whenever they get in camp,
you the first thing when you when you interviewed him
that week, they go, oh, for god, how fast test
rugby and even the trainings blood everyone's quick in that
and it's like, well you have to take note of that.
It's like, it does matter if you are Jacob or Braden,
(04:03):
you're there. Bring a little bit of speed to the
table helps you.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Yeah, certainly does.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
And with jk Rowling as well, he can kick the
absolute shell off a ball. He's been punting that Highlandese
amount of trouble all season long. And I think that's
like the underrated I mean not underrated, but it's quality
in the fullback, which is so pervanal, especially if you've
got a couple of winger at freeze up to have
a guy like Caleb Clark on one of the wings.
So I think is pretty exceptional because you've got a
guy who can just oot the crap out of it
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from anywhere. Some of those kicks against the Brummy's on
the weekend that he was putting out there were world class,
one hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Get him in there.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
I like him, and I think Fabian Holland will come
in as a lock. So Fabian Holland's you're big. He's
six foot eight, six y nine. He's a big unit.
And generally the other locks who sort of seem to
get around the park a bit a bit better out
of your six foot six guys a couple of six
foot five guys sneaking, but generally you need the big unit,
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and I think you you're losing Brady Metallic and obviously
Dog Roll comes in as the muscular kind of power
lock who's you're six or six dude.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
But then I.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Wonder whether Holland, because of his dimensions and also turnovers
one I thought this would all be about other players,
but Billy Harmon's at the top. But guess who is
at number seven? Fabian Holland.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Is that for the the whole season that's incredible.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
So Fabian Holland, I thought it was going to be
Justin Sankster. I thought he is a lock the Hurricanes go.
I thought, oh, maybe he's making some strides. He's looking
so good. All of those Hurricanes do look good. But
I was looking at and thinking, fucking hell, Fabian Holland, Okay,
take a bow there, because Tabatavanawai is about fifth on
the table.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
I was gonna say, where is tabatavanah.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
He's fifth, and then of course mccraig day and Billy
Harmon up the top. But yeah, that's that's a big
stat for me, and I reckon that they'll be waiting.
I think he's probably been I need is someone who's
a monster, and when can we when can we have him?
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Patrick two Plot is injured as well.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Does that mean that he will not be selected to
start the season where they bring someone else in his
injury cover and he will be So he'll be selected,
but they'll say we'll chuck in, you know, we maybe
will Chase chucking Sankster or Dairy or someone like this
to cover up.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Probably, I mean, it depends how bad than the injury is.
But yeah, he was going to get picked, so they
do have to have cover for him. It's interesting because
there must be guys like, for example, Raiser, He's gonna
pick Ethan Black at it. He that was his project
the whole time he was he was the coach at
the Crusaders, And I mean he probably wants to pick
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Colen Grace, not the not the face, you know, so,
but how can you pick him over Hoskins, Tutu or
Braden You're seat?
Speaker 3 (06:53):
That's the That's the thing.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Loose forwards is he's got a tough job Raiser in
that in that meeting room.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Well, I think, to be fair, Collen Grace made his
job pretty easy for him. I reckon he's a great
player and I think he'll get there eventually, but not
off the formiest scene of him this season. You think
bradon Yosse he likes a game up. He's all over
the place on both a defense and attack and you
just haven't quite seen it. You haven't seen what you
know it's capable of because he's done it before coming race.
So he'll be back. But I'd say at this point
(07:18):
it would be an outrage.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Yeah, I agree with you.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
I think Braiden, your seat is going to get the nod,
and they'll probably try and carry an extra loose forward
because I know that Razer will want to see, especially
if Hoskins plays the house down in the next two weeks,
he'll have to see what he's like at test level again,
because you're getting a big body, I mean, Braiden, you'll
(07:42):
see is that sort of he's a slim, lightweight number eight,
but all we can run like the wind. But then
they sort of go well as Peter Larky the guy
we want to do that role as well.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
We've got Ardie.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Saviller who does a similar thing. But I'd say that
they'll try and pick all of those guys. In fact,
I think I was going to get in.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Yeah, surely.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
He's absolutely seems to come out of nowhere in this
weird way. Just this season erupted all over the place,
like the videos I watched when I'm all alone, But
he was just exciting. Every time you see him, he's
just doing something, maybe setting up a try, super effective
on defense.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
He's got to be in the mix.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
So back three, we've talked about Jacob, what about someone
like Josh Morby who was rumored to be going to France.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
Now the rumors of that's all locked in, isn't it.
I don't know, it's a rumor.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Will someone leaked it in France. They leaked the hell
out of it, but nothing has been said since, and
that generally says to me that it's one of those
deals where you're going to France unless you get picked
for the All Blacks.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Well, I mean no one was picked for. They announced
they're going to overseas and then basically the All Blecks
coach at the time a few years ago was like, yeah,
he wasn't going to see he would have picked him
and it would have been like his childhood dream, but
he unfortunately already sign up.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
It was but they did backflip. Yeah, it's happened before,
so that must be. It sounds to me like maybe
that's what's happening with that that he would like to
stay and play for the All Blacks. If he gets packed,
he's going to be He's going to go close. But
then I think Caleb Clark and Mark Talia has encumbered
All Blacks have probably shown enough to be in the squad,
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and then you go, well, Reuben Love or Jacob Wright
to Motovuknikkins and then Nadawa. It's it's a real weird
mix because they always carry fewer wings and fullbacks just
because there's so many other players that cover that position.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Yeah, I mean, and then you Chuck and the likes
of Seva Reese, who's shown what he's capable of as well,
just another man to fill a spot he could jump
in and do a capable job. I mean, he was
really game in game out the shining light in that
Crusaders team. He thought he was exceptional doing Theawa thing
as well of getting in there over the ball, constant
pecking go as he was electric. And again it'll be
(09:58):
tough if he was left out, yeah for him.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
And of course Boden Barrett comes back. So you end
up in this scenario where oh that's right, there's all
the returning all Blacks who've got written into their contracts
that they can go to Japan, get some money and
then come come home. So Reuben Love, I'd love to
I'd like to see him as a as a ten
to fifteen sort of hybrid, you know, like I'd actually
(10:23):
prefer in some ways the extra pace of to Motiviki
Nipkins at the back because you just want to fall
back because once they make the break, it's all over.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
It's all over.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
It is all over, and it really is.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
He gets on the outside of anyone and see a
lady so nice with it and good trashy tattoos as well,
which you want adds another dimension to his playing set.
I think more people be I think you'll miss out.
To be honest, I can't see much space for them
with the people who have put in the work already.
You know, they're so loyal, the All Black Selectors, and
I'd imagine these guys will want to carve their own lane,
(10:57):
but they will still, you know, they can't go too crazy,
can no?
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Will they even do the chat that every All Black
Selector is kind of flirted with, which is saying to
Rico Jouanni, we actually like you on the wing.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Can we trial?
Speaker 2 (11:13):
And you you know that Hurricanes midfield of old Barrett
and Proctor look pretty good.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
I just want to try it. But look, I still
think Rico is your.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Number one, but everybody who's chasing him down Antonine, that
Brown starting to play well, all that sort of stuff.
There's so many combos that you could try in midfield.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
I think with Rico Yan, I mean, I think you're right.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
I think he is the number one now, but I
mean he's in playing the all black center position now.
He'd be number one thirteen for a good few years,
and you've never quite seen it pay off in the
way that we would have hoped. It would have to
be like, great, you're one of the greats. You're right
up there. I just hope that he can kick on.
Maybe maybe this is the year, or I just don't
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know what he needs, what he needs to become one
of the greats.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
So when I was pouring over that.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Shocking World Cup final last year, when I decided to
punish myself by watching it again, I've never done it,
don't do it. But there's if a couple of passes
had gone at the right time, Rico Jouanni could have
been the absolute hero of that game.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
He was right there in the right position, the ball
not heading or not heading him. Oh okay, so that
would be gutting. There's a couple of moves, and people
who've watched it.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
We'll know what I'm talking about. And not here is
sort of like sort of like name and shame. But
there were moves where Rico would have scored.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Yeah, the ball was held on to I'm assuming Jordy
Barrett you grub.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
No, it was just I can't remember, but it was somebody.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Somebody held onto the ball and I was like, oh
Rica would have you know, would have an.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Alarm bells in that gus elite gyas and he is
one of the greats. We'll get into it so soon
the Blues against the Fijian Drewer on the weekend. His
gas is just outside standing and he getting past that
first man and it's havoc breaks loose. You want to
talk about these any more forward selections? There was nothing
locking your lips about that pretty straight and arrow.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Well, I mean, I think so you go dog Roll
top o a Josh Lord's injured, so then I think
that you get a bit of new blood because Patrick
Twopolos's not there, so you get a bit of Fabian
Holland and his room for maybe a justin Sankster's.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
That's a green locking department, though, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
I mean, dog Roll is the obvious big dog in there,
but when you got as your number four starting lock,
that's a I mean, obviously he's been around the blocks
a bit, but he's not exactly what you call it
all black legend.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Well no, not yet, but that's that's the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Man.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
It's like the World Cup cycle the year after this.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
I'm so used to having a team full of all
black legends every single position. Yeah, and you get scared
when there's not someone in every single position and any
you think there's a big callback for Owen.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Franks, Owen Franks, Owen Franks. I don't think he's going
to come back. But is he still going to do
another year? Looks like he still wants to go around
one more time.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Maybe we Ryan CRODDI callback no.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
KRODDI, but I think I really might sneak sneak in
because Raiser again it's another one of his projects.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Yeah, well you've got to have a controversial crusader in there.
Oh yeah again, good boot for me with the boot. Well,
now we will take a break with cover that. I
think it's worth doubling back for that one, and we'll
be back with the quarter final.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Results very surely. And we are back. Look at that.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Just like I promised, I'd never tell a lie, by
the way, I'd never promise something and they're not deliver.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
And we can talk.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
About these quarter final results and if there was ever
a quarterfinals round that really underlined the fact that this
combetation does not need quarterfinals.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
It was these quarterfinals.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Hiding after hiding after hiding, and the final was close
enough but still comprehensive. They just should have been semi finals.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Yeah, this is really highlighted.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
But also I think they said there hasn't been an
away winning a quarter final for eight seasons or something crazy. Anyway,
that might have been one of those Aussie podcasts coming
up with a.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Stat but good stuff.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
So if I begin with the Chiefs v Reds, the
Reds the old bogie team for the Chiefs. They turned
up in Hamilton and you could actually tell from probably
first five minutes that they weren't quite there.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
No, they weren't right.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Every move the Chiefs wanted to do they pulled off
being o'keef trying to make up for that horrific Grand
final last year.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
So year too late, being o'keef. We don't need your
good calls now, but it's fine.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
It looked like it was just going to be an
absolute walkover. Then a little glimmer of life after halftime
with the cabin boy getting a couple of tries, but
then it was like, okay, we're back, we're just and
we put it into cruise control and neutral for the
last quarter. You could see every sub was on. Yeah,
probably should have put Damien and the cotton waller bit earlier,
but they didn't have a first five on the bench,
(16:08):
and I maka boy hippie was the covert first five
and I think Brad Slater scored with a G string
on his head, So that pretty much summed it up.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Yeah, you like to see that forty three to twenty
one the final score, and yeah, you're right, they did
coast at the end. But for the first half, everything
the Chiefs did stuck.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
Nothing the Reds did looked good at all. It was
horrific stuff. It was. They really didn't get off the plane.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
But the Chiefs, I thought from all the semi finals
that I watched, which was all of them, I thought
they were the best team in those quarter finals. I
thought they weren't fighting with handling ears like the Blues.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
They weren't sort of.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
I mean, even though the Hurricanes won by twenty seven
to old points, they still didn't sendybody mucking things up left,
right and center, and the Brummies the Brummies coughed their
way through the first half and then just came right
in the start of the second half. But the Chiefs
look finely tuned, and I wonder if they could be
almost I don't want to think of them, say the favorites,
(17:07):
but they could be peaking at the right point of
the season.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
We'll put it that way.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Yeah, we're hoping in Chiefs Country.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
All the Chiefs man of fans are kind of I mean,
g Lane's just pumped. He thinks he can't wait to
commentate the game four p thirty five pm on Saturday
here at the ACC. I'm shipping bricks as well, and
yes's on sky Sport nine. Because I sort of feel
like the Hurricanes have looked the best all season. I
think we could go back to old podcasts and even
(17:34):
week one, I was going, man, the Hurricanes look good against.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
The Force, just crisp, fast, powerful.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
The Chiefs finally picked there what we think is their
top team and their first fifteen, and it just showed that.
I guess, if you do want to if they were
kind of what would you call it, like working things out,
getting into some form, waiting for their all blecks, because
there are a few, and that you do need to
wait for them to get over the World Cup hangover
(18:04):
and start playing well. We've always seen that from all
these other franchises for years, you know, Richie Mccaorr having
you know, spluttering start to a Super Rugby season and
then just being the real Richie playoff time. So I
think there's a bit of that, and also just trying
to work out who they are. Without Brady Metallic, Sam
(18:25):
Cane and Brad Webber's you're pretty much your leadership group gone.
And now I think they're just getting things sorted. Should
be an absolute blockbuster to semi that one.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
I think it's the semi semi of the weekend. I
guess that's I'm actually thinking. I think the Chiefs what
sneak in there an upset that knock over the Hurricanes team.
I think that's if I was a betting man, which
I am, I'll be putting some money on the TB
which I will.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
I think that I reckon they're going to do it.
The Hurricanes.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
I mean they, like I said, they ended up beating
the Rebels by twenty seven points, but that's one v eight.
That's the team that just snuck in to the quarter
finals anyway, where the Chiefs was four verse five, so
you know, a bit more even he matched. The Reds
were on a decent run of form near the end
of the season, so they had a harder assignment and
still managed to do a fairly someone score the Canes
(19:16):
the Rebels.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
At first, I was thinking, what are you watching here?
Speaker 1 (19:18):
The Rebel's got to somehow, some way to get another game,
but no, they go.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
There's a couple of things that have happened to the
Chiefs that have made a huge difference. There's been a
noticeable uptick in the form of Tupo Vu. He's playing
like he is the senior lock now the senior pro.
He's not the biggest lock in the world, but he
is very combative and does a lot of a lot
of the dirty work. He's a turnover guy. He loves
defending and he carries well. So we sort of needed
(19:48):
to see the all round gamement from him that hasn't happened.
Probably earlier in the season. Wallace a Titi's come out
of freaking nowhere side Titty showing a bit of something,
a bit of class, a bit of mystery with the
side titt and if you started the season, he wouldn't
have been like, you wouldn't have considered him, Oh that's
our starting number eight. So he's made a massive difference.
(20:10):
But it's also meant that Luke Jacobson can go and
play number seven, which actually I think might be his
best position. He is very much like Sam Kine, a
defensive seven, huge defender and nullifies I guess whatever the
other team is trying to bring. So when you're playing
against the Hurricanes, your assignment is this is how shit
(20:31):
it is for anyone who plays them. Peter Larkeye replaced
by dupless Heather Duplessy careefy. That's tough, unbelievable, holy shit.
So yeah, that's I just reckon that. It's made a
massive difference to the team.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Yeah, they certainly looked the goods and just slack even
and they did seem to be super slack. I mean
the last home game of the season for them as well,
so then they were putting on a little bit of
a clinic for that. The Hamilton faithful and I mean,
what are they going down to Wellington will be a
decent continent of new chiefs mana fans shooting down the
Ireck and in that you're able to get some more
(21:05):
people in the sky standing because it's pretty woeful for
that hurricane in the Rebels game, it looked full and
then you saw a back angle when you know it's
it's empty.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Yeah, and four thirty five will help, I think after
the game and Walley, Yeah, the Chiefs fans will be
if there will be plenty that will travel. There's always
a bit of mana sprinkle all around, you know New
Zealand and the world. In fact, there's I saw a
great Chiefs jersey, a heritage one at one of the
at a Brisbane and the Reds game over there. I
was like, oh, that's a nice, nice jersey. So you
(21:36):
see them every a Perth. A lot of people from
the White Cuts will escape to work on the mines
of work in the mines now.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Chiefs and Kaines really clear before we get off that
as the semi final. Yeah, also quite adtant because they've
sort of dabbled and pulled from each other's regions over
over the history of super rugby, right, whether a wee bit.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
Of a swapping of New Plymouth and.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Also Napier, so they've been like, oh yeah, your Chiefs
now or a Hurricane all now switch are rue, You're
not anymore. So I do wonder if there might be
some sort of implanted fans who are now in the
Hurricanes and Chiefs regions who actually support the other team.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
There's been a lot of wife swapping going on in
Tatanaki and even before the Chiefs even existed, but it
was definitely when they did turn up.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
There's people who have.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Remained loyal to the Black and Yellow. Black and Yellow,
including the Barrett family. Clearly, Okay, I get it Smiley
played for the Canes. But kids growing up there, there's
a lot of them that are all about Chiefs. One
of those Taranaki kids and I know I've got a
couple of mates.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
He said, no, if the Chiefs are bringing their games here,
then we're Chiefs as well.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
So there's been a fair amount of that, but I
think just as well because we've got a lot of
Tatanaki players and the Chiefs. By the two players who
I noticed who have ended up at the Canes have
been outstanding or additions anyway, justin sanks to the lock
as a Toedunger kidd, he went to a Quinas College,
which is the Catholic school. Yeah, yeah, a bit of
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a quinas and aquinas taste. And then you've got Pasili
or Tossi, who went to to do a boys high
and he's a monster. He is Godzilla, plays tidy prop
and I don't know how he slipped away from the
Chiefs scouts, but.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
He did miss him Tata naky fella.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
Should he have maybe?
Speaker 2 (23:25):
I guess he just said, I know we're on they
He was at Hastings Boys, so he would have been
in the Hurricanes system as a as a junior.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Yeah, right, you gets swallowed up.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
I mean it's pretty pretty resolute in terms of the
outside backs of the Chiefs. You know why theyre probably
like we're good, We're good, fair are good.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
So Hurricanes rebels, well, well, I think we've talked enough about.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Yeah, that's good, just very good and a very average quarterfinal.
When you think about its quarter finals should be at
least close, I kind of think yeah. And then we
go to the Blues Fiji and Drewer again thirty five
to five. It could have been fifty l At one
point I thought at twenty three at halftime, I thought, geez,
(24:07):
this could get really really grim here. And the last
ten minutes was having the more forgettable ten minutes I've
watched in a rugby game. I just seemed to pack
up a bit wet but slippery run was sort of
sliding around the place, scrum resets. But the Blues, I
don't know what the stats were. They must have dropped
twenty balls over the course of the game, if not more.
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The handling was atrocious, and I think they're gonna have
to get their shit together if they're wanting to win
the whole thing.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
It'd be interesting game Blues Vests Brumbies.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Yeah, so the Blues.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
I didn't watch that game, but the way I look
at this whole whole season is, yeah, they've come in
and become way more combative and old school thanks to
old Verne Cotta, grizzled old veteran of the coach who said,
who wants to dominate every single breakdown? So throwing themselves
around the place. But then, like you say, the attention
to detail just isn't there. And I noticed I was
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looking for highlights from the previous week for crowd go
as well. We sort of I do a rugby rap
on the Monday, and I was trying to find a
decent try from the blues and they're all just like
picking go from about a meter out. So somehow they
got down there doing some cool shit, but they're not
actually finishing, so they're relying on the big concrete mixes,
(25:20):
the big boppers to sort of like barge their way over.
And I mean, I guess it's what you're saying. Maybe
it's just a bit of accuracy.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Yeah, they certainly lacking accuracy. It was almost comedy of areas.
They were scoring tries by knocking the ball on Like
two tries I think in the first half was scored
by someone dropping the ball and it going backwards to
someone else who was able to pick it up and
dot down. Caleb Clark seem to be all at sea
for he did score two tries which I guess redeems yourself,
(25:52):
but they were both here's the ball running over, but
the handling was just an outrage. So hopefully they can
tidy that up there at home them this week again.
So I'm a seven o'clock game as well, so to
be fairly similar conditions.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
And it went and slippery.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
You know, it's the middle of winter, or at least
middle of June, which is the start of winter, but
you know. I'm one of my Jim Hickey, so I
imagine it will be pretty weird out there, the same conditions,
and they've got to tighten it up.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
They got a tight It is.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
A Friday, isn't it? Can I look at the weather
for Friday and an all class?
Speaker 4 (26:24):
Is it Friday? Is it not? Satdi?
Speaker 3 (26:27):
They're the one against the Brumbies, the.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
One against the Brumbies. It's Friday? So what's going on here?
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Why have we got a seven o'clock game on a
Friday and then a four to thirty game on a Saturday.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
It's a ninety chance of rain on a Friday. It's
the Theatitude Peninsula forecast, which is all I've got.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
Well that'll do.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
It'll do. I haven't got a Wellington forecast on me,
but do you want to look that up?
Speaker 4 (26:50):
I certainly can.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
And as it stands, the Blues absolute raging favorites at
the tav dollar twenty versus the Brumbies four dollars, and
I'd have to say that's good eating if you were
a Brummie fan or even just like that outrageous bet.
The Brumby's I mean took them a while, but they do.
We might as well slide over to that Rumbies game.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
So Wellington is the Saturday afternoon, which is forty rain
chance of rain for Wellie on Saturday afternoon.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Before we do go to the Brummies game. Is there
a reason why that game is at four point thirty
not seven o'clock.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
I think it was the Blues had the chance to
to choose a time and then they didn't end up
with the number one spot, so it became the Hurricane slot.
And because they didn't want to play with the Warriors,
which is so.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
The Warriors on Saturday night. Yeah, wow wee. I guess
that's the sign of the times.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
It's good to see Super Rugby actually thinking about it though,
because this is the thing that I mean, I've been
pretty critical of them, of Super Rugby in general this
year for not thinking about that sort of thing, and
it's putting it on and saying we're the hottest ticket
in town.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
We could do what we want. We don't need to
change our way.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
So good on yah, Super Rugby being adaptable getting people
in and not competing with the Wars. What a Saturday
that'll be, by the way, just start parking up.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
One last word as well, given that we've probably talked
about the semi finals and all that sort of stuff.
Is Brumby's Highland as your team going out. I watched
some of that, but I felt that after that heartbreak
of the soccer skills try, yeah, that you kind of
lost your mojo. I don't know why, because I was
(28:28):
only watching the extended highlights, but I noticed in the
build up to that try, Jik Rowling he was up
in the air trying to take the ball. He got
taken out in the air, was having a bleak to
the ref about it, which could have been a yellow
card on another day, but he didn't fall dangerously.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
He just so it came down on his feet.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
Always stayed out that secret.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Always act hurt. You've got to fucking sell it.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
But anyway, the guy kicks it over to a mere
head who controls it like fucking zadan As incredible, and
then he just then the ball bounces frohim. I thought
he hacked it he kicked it again, but the reverse
angle shows he just followed it and then popped up
for him. And that try, not that it was a
what do you call it, like a fourteen pointer or whatever,
but that try was what fiftieth minute or something.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Yeah, well there were two in a row, two very
close together. It went from being a very tight game,
I mean. And compound that with the fact that the
Brumby scored on halftime to go ahead.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
With the go ahead score.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
I think if they hadn't scored that try, we were
the Highlands were gone to the sheds being five points
up and going listen, guys, we're on here, we're on
with the upset. They scored a try in the fortieth minute,
go ahead too. Then the Brummis are up two points
and then in the start of the second half two
tries back to back, so it's three tries in a row.
(29:48):
It blows the score out bag and then the Highness thinking,
oh fuck, what are we going to do here? And
you know that there are a team of battlers. They
were battling away right to the bitter end. But it
just was just there was a tough second half. It's
not the second half you want to have at a
quarter final fixture. But they showed heart, they showed grit,
but they also were showing the door.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Well, the Brumbies, crocodile Brumbies, they are masters of the
death roll. They pretty much will suffocate any team that
goes over there. Generally it starts off with the rolling
mall and all that sort of stuff, but they just
do it. And it's that ship camera angle from the
from the stadium where.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
It's an awful camera angle. So shit, I'm glad you
said this. The whole time I was watching it's from
the back and low. When the Brumbies were attacking under
the trailer, I was I can't really.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
See anything, see anything.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
Backs are obscuring them all.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
So it's like, even if you've got someone watching the
game trying to sort of do some analysis, who knows
it would just be impossible. They'll probably put a massive
pillar in the way of in front of the visiting
coach's box or some fucking thing, because it just seems
that you go into this black hole is void and
in camera and nothing good happens unless you're repenting or
(30:58):
some freak, you know, and then all of a sudden
the game breaks open. But yeah, there is there's something
that happens there, a Bermuda triangle of rugby where only
shit goes down and people get lost.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
Yeah, well you know, I's got lost the crowd.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
This is the last quarter final in Australia, the only
Brumbies quarter final. They're representing the country. And it looked
like a Saturday afternoon game. There's no one there. It
wasn't passing down, it wasn't I mean, im sure it
was cold. It's Australia camera in the middle of winter,
but I mean, come on, what do you need camera?
Speaker 4 (31:29):
Get out there? Guess what you say?
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Well, Ossie, Twitter's gone nuts about We'll trying to defend it.
But what they've done is they've gone all and on
how shites the rules are of rugby, the laws now
and it needs to be changed and blah blah blah
the entertainment and there's a lot of people who are saying,
I'm a Brumby is till I die. I'm a Raiders
till I die. But the game right now isn't good enough.
(31:53):
And you know they're not saying how good they're going?
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Not good?
Speaker 4 (31:57):
No, you went in the you went in the quarter
final at home. You got to I support the team.
You're not a Brumby's fan.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Who you die if you're not going along to watch
their final home game exactly?
Speaker 2 (32:06):
That's We'll get on Twitter and can you reply to
this person. I mean, I don't know, but that's what
that's the feeling was that those are saying it's not
the same entertainment.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
Are you going to Twitter a bit of a miss
lately just due to hatred?
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Well, there's a pretty pretty gnarly I mean, I'm sure
someone's saying that the rugby is the worst part the
words ever, but it's probably the nicest thing you see
on Twitter at the moment. It's a real sispit and
videos of people getting dangerously.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Hurt, don't the Twitter is really worrying, especially for a
lot of people used to go to Twitter for news
because it was so immediate.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
But oh my god, that is it was the best.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
It was the best of them all, especially watching a
game on and having Twitter open at the same time. Yeah,
like a cricket like I'm watching the World Ticht Championship final,
watching the Cricket World Cup final in twenty nineteen with
Twitter at the same time.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
It's like a you know, it's like you we.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Get a little chut column and you find your little group,
but now it's just un saying gonna slit your throat
and oh, your dad's dead, and it's carnage.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
I'm going to fuck your mum. It's classic A z
Ad stuff.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
They coming all the way back and you just see
Raj Varmer from the A z in Ads getting his
final say because they called cute and said we're going
to roll with the kid saying your mum's calling you,
and then he's like, no, no, I'm back with the
extended mix, bitch. And not only do I fuck your mum,
I also my mom's dead and his head ghost is
(33:29):
going to haunt you for the rest of your days.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
You're not going to have a normal childhood.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Okay, that's the deepest I like that, just to be like, yeah,
she's gonna haunt you and your whole family, right, that's
all we do here.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Don't you think you're getting away with that kind of
sick burn on me?
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Out of the local domain, I know, great domain though
I don't know where that is.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
But what what a mass to the community I.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Was looking at was that Devenport I felt very much
like g Lane.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Gentrified Leafy certainly does feel like a place where you
know the community at teens public meetings. In order to
get such a facility, you know, people out were wheel
of the two busy working, the two busy trying to
make ends meat to be able to go to town meetings.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Right, we're going to take a break and do a
TB thing.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
Let's do it, and we're back at the Champagne Rabi podcast.
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the Canes.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
All the Blues next week, or it could be the Chiefs.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
The Chiefs could host the final against the Brummies because
there is two semi finals there on Friday night Blues
Brummies Eaeden Parks five, then Saturday four thirty kickoff Cairnes Chiefs,
all available Skysport nine with the AC's commentary. And what
a world that would be if the Canes went back
to Sorry, if the Chiefs went back to.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
FMG Female Stadium.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
It's the most unlikely result, wouldn't it with the Chiefs
feed Brumbies as a final, it's not gonna happen, I
can safely.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
Can we bet against that?
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Can we bet on it? I feel like this is
a great game day, good hunch.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Okay, we'll want you yet, because I've just been going
with try scorers and I thought, okay, so tou tou
almora Nadawa maybe, but I'm happy to go with your good.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Can we can we split? Can we do a fifty
dollars each? We've got one hundred dollars bonus bit to
spend on this. Can we do it too?
Speaker 4 (35:33):
No, let's stick. Let's stick to what we because we discussed.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
This off here quite extensively, and then I've come on
the mics are hot, and I've lost my mind and said,
let's bet on the Chiefs and the Brumbies. But no,
let's let's stick to our guys. Let's do sotu To
and Nadawa to score anytime try scorers and their respective games.
I think that's a bitter bit. It's probably paying more anyway.
I think that's let's go with.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
That one, okay, And I would quite happily go again.
It's your hot mic hunched out of nowhere, and say
a Cain's Blues final. It's probably paying bygarall.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
But yeah, I mean the two your favorites. I think
off the top of my head it was a dollar
twenty dollars sixty the Blues and the Hurricanes giving a
big thumb up from a producer.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
Why pretty pumped up with that?
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Why don't we do that? And and as half can
we do that?
Speaker 5 (36:25):
As half Adam for this, it'll be we've got to
go handy either way, handy okay, sorry, So if we
were to put those two together, it would be pain
is a multi a dollar only two?
Speaker 3 (36:37):
So Nana, We're not We're not going.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Can we can we make it a huge multi and
do the three Triscorers and the Hurricanes and the Blues
to make it's it?
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Can we do that? As a MAULTI yeah, I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
It's all right.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Well, let it be known that I've I've stuck my ore.
And for the Chiefs, Brumbi's final, the final no one wants,
the final that no one believes, and I think it's
going to happen.
Speaker 4 (37:03):
I think the Brumbies could come over if the Blues.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
Play as poorly as they played for parts of that game.
I'm not saying all the game, because obviously they did
play pretty well. Patches the Brumbies could, you don't They
could squeak in there and upset the applecart. They've got
some good players, they've got speed out wide. If they've
got men with ponytails.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
It is Sotutu, Alma and Nadawa to score a try,
along with the Canes and the Blues to win.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
This is a great game.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
They good pun I mentioned this, and you can hit
the TB website chairb dot co dot z or download
the TB app. She had all the Rugby union promos
and the boosted odds markets. But I reckon, that's good
eating that that be final. I think it's a good
it's a good shout.
Speaker 4 (37:45):
I'm going to take my own heart in money and
check it on that.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
I reckon, Yeah, you take your heart on money and
give it to whoever you like, because I feel like that.
Speaker 4 (37:54):
I feel like this is your team.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
I can't believe how down and out you are about
your your own team. If the Highlanders were in the
semi final, if they were playing the All Blacks, I
would still pick the Highlanders.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
There's no way.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
So we have seen this video to the Chief's headquarters
and say James with Cooney, supposed Chief super fan doesn't
believe in you.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
He doesn't believe that you can beat the Hurricanes.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
He doesn't believe you can go down there to Wellington
and this is a defeatist attitude.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
Quite frankly, I'm outraged.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
No, absolutely correct, Send it away. Hopefully we'll put a
rocket up their ass because that's what they'll need.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
To of you on their chalkboard and be to see
this guy. He comes into our trainings for Crago's wife.
It's like our friend, he says.
Speaker 6 (38:36):
There again he haw's it going to the CNA. Hey,
nice to see you fellas, you're playing well out there.
He doesn't believe. Let's make him believe. Let's prove the
ship head wrong. It's strip the Chief's jersey off his back.
Never again will be welcoming that training.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
And the dam from the ans in and as well,
and chuck him on the board because he has been
out there fucking moms all the time and nobody is
holding him to account. How many mothers is he going
to bang in Devenport?
Speaker 4 (39:06):
You're going to go all the.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
Next time, and there's going to be an effigy of
you and an effigy of Snil's dad, and they're just
going to be absolutely trashed, human extive and throwing them
javelins into them, a couple of Patu marks on the
side of them. They're really going to humiliate you next time.
You go, that's I'm happy for them to prove me wrong.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
It's one of those ones where I just look at
it and go, you know what, the money is always strong.
But commentating the game, it's going to be on Skysport
nine four point thirty five on Saturday. It's going to
be tough not to be a massive eyore in that
game and just go, oh my god, I knew this
was going to happen. But g Lane, it will just be
(39:45):
all hype. Don't worry. He is the hype guy in
that game, so he'll be all hype. Friday night it's
again sky Sport nine.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
Yeah, Blues.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
Tune and tune in. I still believe in the Chiefs,
Love you with all my heart. You know, I'm Chiefs
for life. Manna all day, White Cats. It's like die
cats or don't you worry?
Speaker 4 (40:08):
Oh thank you.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
Lastly, I'm looking forward to breaking this down into the
Brumbies Chiefs Final next week.
Speaker 4 (40:14):
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Final time, Baby Super Rugby. The biggest non event maybe
in rugby history, the quarter finals and we plow through
(00:32):
the semis.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Yeah, it's a big old walk over. Lots of one
sided affairs, a blowout as we call them in the ACC.
You can feel a blowout, you can sense it, and
there were plenty of those. But I think the big
issue now is now that we've lost two of our teams.
The Highlanders joined the Crusaders on the Mad Monday, a
(00:55):
recovery trail and so who though, will raise a pick
in his team because he's gone he's a bit different
this year. He's gone with five selectors. So what he's
done is Leo McDonald, he'll he'll pick the back three,
Jason Holland will do the midfield. Scott Hanson who's their
little ex Crusaders coach, and Hardley little Scott he's gonna
(01:17):
go with the nine and tens Rais is gonna pick
the loose forwards and Jason Ryan will pick the Type five.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Is this your reading of it or is this something
that's been announced? This an announce So they're saying they're
gonna so they're gonna assemble it like Voltron and be like,
these are the best players that I know who do
these three jobs forget about how they work together.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
And if the first five has a shit a Raiser
will just look over at Scott Hanson go, what the
fuck was that?
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Mate?
Speaker 4 (01:42):
You're fired?
Speaker 3 (01:44):
You were killing me here? Foker, please some defense.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Surely the nine and the eights, you know it would
be good if they were familiar with each other.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
You think we want them.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
To there will be lee aising. I feel like it's
around the table.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
There's a whiteboard and there's kind of like, you know,
sweaty brows and like how long are we going to
wait here? Because in the end, Raizer will always have.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
The power of Vito.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
I think in the end even Wayne Smith's going to
be able to stick his or in because he'll be
in the corner just yeah, just just waiting for his moment,
and they'll say like Yoda what do you think?
Speaker 3 (02:16):
And he'll be like.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Love Rubin, He'll be He'll be saying more Crusaders as
they always do. And this is the were the classic
telling Crusaders shit, worst team in the camp, a laughing stock.
We've been ripping on them all season, rob pities, calling
people's sea bombs left front and center. I bet they'll
still have more all blacks than the Highlanders, easily. They'll
(02:41):
follood the market with Crusaders all blacks. They'll all go
nah nah, different team. And that really gets my goat
because I'd love to see a guy like a rest
of my Tavuki Nepkins, maybe even just get and brought
into the environment, you know that class thing we go.
We just put you in Toto the environment to see.
We want to see a bit closer.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
So I think he is with a chart, so I've
highlighted the positions where there is a little bit of interest,
so the locks, the loose forwards, and the back three.
So Jacob writes in my Tavuke Nepkins Jr. K Rowling,
He's had a huge season and I've got some stats
here that will excite you because in terms of defenders
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beaten oh he's up there, but not at the top,
but in terms of meat is made, he's right up there. Yeah,
he's therefore a lot of the stats that you want
from your fallback line breaks. Okay, he didn't make it,
but hey, that's all right. He was he was basically
carries as well. Anyway, he's been going, he's going well.
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But the other thing is he's real quick. And when
it comes to the r blocks whenever they get in camp,
you the first thing when you when you interviewed him
that week, they go, oh, for god, how fast test
rugby and even the trainings blood everyone's quick in that
and it's like, well you have to take note of that.
It's like, it does matter if you are Jacob or Braden,
(04:03):
you're there. Bring a little bit of speed to the
table helps you.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Yeah, certainly does.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
And with jk Rowling as well, he can kick the
absolute shell off a ball. He's been punting that Highlandese
amount of trouble all season long. And I think that's
like the underrated I mean not underrated, but it's quality
in the fullback, which is so pervanal, especially if you've
got a couple of winger at freeze up to have
a guy like Caleb Clark on one of the wings.
So I think is pretty exceptional because you've got a
guy who can just oot the crap out of it
(04:29):
from anywhere. Some of those kicks against the Brummy's on
the weekend that he was putting out there were world class,
one hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Get him in there.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
I like him, and I think Fabian Holland will come
in as a lock. So Fabian Holland's you're big. He's
six foot eight, six y nine. He's a big unit.
And generally the other locks who sort of seem to
get around the park a bit a bit better out
of your six foot six guys a couple of six
foot five guys sneaking, but generally you need the big unit,
(04:59):
and I think you you're losing Brady Metallic and obviously
Dog Roll comes in as the muscular kind of power
lock who's you're six or six dude.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
But then I.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Wonder whether Holland, because of his dimensions and also turnovers
one I thought this would all be about other players,
but Billy Harmon's at the top. But guess who is
at number seven? Fabian Holland.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Is that for the the whole season that's incredible.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
So Fabian Holland, I thought it was going to be
Justin Sankster. I thought he is a lock the Hurricanes go.
I thought, oh, maybe he's making some strides. He's looking
so good. All of those Hurricanes do look good. But
I was looking at and thinking, fucking hell, Fabian Holland, Okay,
take a bow there, because Tabatavanawai is about fifth on
the table.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
I was gonna say, where is tabatavanah.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
He's fifth, and then of course mccraig day and Billy
Harmon up the top. But yeah, that's that's a big
stat for me, and I reckon that they'll be waiting.
I think he's probably been I need is someone who's
a monster, and when can we when can we have him?
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Patrick two Plot is injured as well.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Does that mean that he will not be selected to
start the season where they bring someone else in his
injury cover and he will be So he'll be selected,
but they'll say we'll chuck in, you know, we maybe
will Chase chucking Sankster or Dairy or someone like this
to cover up.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Probably, I mean, it depends how bad than the injury is.
But yeah, he was going to get picked, so they
do have to have cover for him. It's interesting because
there must be guys like, for example, Raiser, He's gonna
pick Ethan Black at it. He that was his project
the whole time he was he was the coach at
the Crusaders, And I mean he probably wants to pick
(06:44):
Colen Grace, not the not the face, you know, so,
but how can you pick him over Hoskins, Tutu or
Braden You're seat?
Speaker 3 (06:53):
That's the That's the thing.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Loose forwards is he's got a tough job Raiser in
that in that meeting room.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Well, I think, to be fair, Collen Grace made his
job pretty easy for him. I reckon he's a great
player and I think he'll get there eventually, but not
off the formiest scene of him this season. You think
bradon Yosse he likes a game up. He's all over
the place on both a defense and attack and you
just haven't quite seen it. You haven't seen what you
know it's capable of because he's done it before coming race.
So he'll be back. But I'd say at this point
(07:18):
it would be an outrage.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Yeah, I agree with you.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
I think Braiden, your seat is going to get the nod,
and they'll probably try and carry an extra loose forward
because I know that Razer will want to see, especially
if Hoskins plays the house down in the next two weeks,
he'll have to see what he's like at test level again,
because you're getting a big body, I mean, Braiden, you'll
(07:42):
see is that sort of he's a slim, lightweight number eight,
but all we can run like the wind. But then
they sort of go well as Peter Larky the guy
we want to do that role as well.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
We've got Ardie.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Saviller who does a similar thing. But I'd say that
they'll try and pick all of those guys. In fact,
I think I was going to get in.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Yeah, surely.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
He's absolutely seems to come out of nowhere in this
weird way. Just this season erupted all over the place,
like the videos I watched when I'm all alone, But
he was just exciting. Every time you see him, he's
just doing something, maybe setting up a try, super effective
on defense.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
He's got to be in the mix.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
So back three, we've talked about Jacob, what about someone
like Josh Morby who was rumored to be going to France.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
Now the rumors of that's all locked in, isn't it.
I don't know, it's a rumor.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Will someone leaked it in France. They leaked the hell
out of it, but nothing has been said since, and
that generally says to me that it's one of those
deals where you're going to France unless you get picked
for the All Blacks.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Well, I mean no one was picked for. They announced
they're going to overseas and then basically the All Blecks
coach at the time a few years ago was like, yeah,
he wasn't going to see he would have picked him
and it would have been like his childhood dream, but
he unfortunately already sign up.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
It was but they did backflip. Yeah, it's happened before,
so that must be. It sounds to me like maybe
that's what's happening with that that he would like to
stay and play for the All Blacks. If he gets packed,
he's going to be He's going to go close. But
then I think Caleb Clark and Mark Talia has encumbered
All Blacks have probably shown enough to be in the squad,
(09:20):
and then you go, well, Reuben Love or Jacob Wright
to Motovuknikkins and then Nadawa. It's it's a real weird
mix because they always carry fewer wings and fullbacks just
because there's so many other players that cover that position.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Yeah, I mean, and then you Chuck and the likes
of Seva Reese, who's shown what he's capable of as well,
just another man to fill a spot he could jump
in and do a capable job. I mean, he was
really game in game out the shining light in that
Crusaders team. He thought he was exceptional doing Theawa thing
as well of getting in there over the ball, constant
pecking go as he was electric. And again it'll be
(09:58):
tough if he was left out, yeah for him.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
And of course Boden Barrett comes back. So you end
up in this scenario where oh that's right, there's all
the returning all Blacks who've got written into their contracts
that they can go to Japan, get some money and
then come come home. So Reuben Love, I'd love to
I'd like to see him as a as a ten
to fifteen sort of hybrid, you know, like I'd actually
(10:23):
prefer in some ways the extra pace of to Motiviki
Nipkins at the back because you just want to fall
back because once they make the break, it's all over.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
It's all over.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
It is all over, and it really is.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
He gets on the outside of anyone and see a
lady so nice with it and good trashy tattoos as well,
which you want adds another dimension to his playing set.
I think more people be I think you'll miss out.
To be honest, I can't see much space for them
with the people who have put in the work already.
You know, they're so loyal, the All Black Selectors, and
I'd imagine these guys will want to carve their own lane,
(10:57):
but they will still, you know, they can't go too crazy,
can no?
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Will they even do the chat that every All Black
Selector is kind of flirted with, which is saying to
Rico Jouanni, we actually like you on the wing.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Can we trial?
Speaker 2 (11:13):
And you you know that Hurricanes midfield of old Barrett
and Proctor look pretty good.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
I just want to try it. But look, I still
think Rico is your.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Number one, but everybody who's chasing him down Antonine, that
Brown starting to play well, all that sort of stuff.
There's so many combos that you could try in midfield.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
I think with Rico Yan, I mean, I think you're right.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
I think he is the number one now, but I
mean he's in playing the all black center position now.
He'd be number one thirteen for a good few years,
and you've never quite seen it pay off in the
way that we would have hoped. It would have to
be like, great, you're one of the greats. You're right
up there. I just hope that he can kick on.
Maybe maybe this is the year, or I just don't
(11:56):
know what he needs, what he needs to become one
of the greats.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
So when I was pouring over that.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Shocking World Cup final last year, when I decided to
punish myself by watching it again, I've never done it,
don't do it. But there's if a couple of passes
had gone at the right time, Rico Jouanni could have
been the absolute hero of that game.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
He was right there in the right position, the ball
not heading or not heading him. Oh okay, so that
would be gutting. There's a couple of moves, and people
who've watched it.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
We'll know what I'm talking about. And not here is
sort of like sort of like name and shame. But
there were moves where Rico would have scored.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Yeah, the ball was held on to I'm assuming Jordy
Barrett you grub.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
No, it was just I can't remember, but it was somebody.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Somebody held onto the ball and I was like, oh
Rica would have you know, would have an.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Alarm bells in that gus elite gyas and he is
one of the greats. We'll get into it so soon
the Blues against the Fijian Drewer on the weekend. His
gas is just outside standing and he getting past that
first man and it's havoc breaks loose. You want to
talk about these any more forward selections? There was nothing
locking your lips about that pretty straight and arrow.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Well, I mean, I think so you go dog Roll
top o a Josh Lord's injured, so then I think
that you get a bit of new blood because Patrick
Twopolos's not there, so you get a bit of Fabian
Holland and his room for maybe a justin Sankster's.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
That's a green locking department, though, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
I mean, dog Roll is the obvious big dog in there,
but when you got as your number four starting lock,
that's a I mean, obviously he's been around the blocks
a bit, but he's not exactly what you call it
all black legend.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Well no, not yet, but that's that's the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Man.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
It's like the World Cup cycle the year after this.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
I'm so used to having a team full of all
black legends every single position. Yeah, and you get scared
when there's not someone in every single position and any
you think there's a big callback for Owen.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Franks, Owen Franks, Owen Franks. I don't think he's going
to come back. But is he still going to do
another year? Looks like he still wants to go around
one more time.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Maybe we Ryan CRODDI callback no.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
KRODDI, but I think I really might sneak sneak in
because Raiser again it's another one of his projects.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Yeah, well you've got to have a controversial crusader in there.
Oh yeah again, good boot for me with the boot. Well,
now we will take a break with cover that. I
think it's worth doubling back for that one, and we'll
be back with the quarter final.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Results very surely. And we are back. Look at that.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Just like I promised, I'd never tell a lie, by
the way, I'd never promise something and they're not deliver.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
And we can talk.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
About these quarter final results and if there was ever
a quarterfinals round that really underlined the fact that this
combetation does not need quarterfinals.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
It was these quarterfinals.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Hiding after hiding after hiding, and the final was close
enough but still comprehensive. They just should have been semi finals.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Yeah, this is really highlighted.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
But also I think they said there hasn't been an
away winning a quarter final for eight seasons or something crazy. Anyway,
that might have been one of those Aussie podcasts coming
up with a.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Stat but good stuff.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
So if I begin with the Chiefs v Reds, the
Reds the old bogie team for the Chiefs. They turned
up in Hamilton and you could actually tell from probably
first five minutes that they weren't quite there.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
No, they weren't right.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Every move the Chiefs wanted to do they pulled off
being o'keef trying to make up for that horrific Grand
final last year.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
So year too late, being o'keef. We don't need your
good calls now, but it's fine.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
It looked like it was just going to be an
absolute walkover. Then a little glimmer of life after halftime
with the cabin boy getting a couple of tries, but
then it was like, okay, we're back, we're just and
we put it into cruise control and neutral for the
last quarter. You could see every sub was on. Yeah,
probably should have put Damien and the cotton waller bit earlier,
but they didn't have a first five on the bench,
(16:08):
and I maka boy hippie was the covert first five
and I think Brad Slater scored with a G string
on his head, So that pretty much summed it up.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Yeah, you like to see that forty three to twenty
one the final score, and yeah, you're right, they did
coast at the end. But for the first half, everything
the Chiefs did stuck.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
Nothing the Reds did looked good at all. It was
horrific stuff. It was. They really didn't get off the plane.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
But the Chiefs, I thought from all the semi finals
that I watched, which was all of them, I thought
they were the best team in those quarter finals. I
thought they weren't fighting with handling ears like the Blues.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
They weren't sort of.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
I mean, even though the Hurricanes won by twenty seven
to old points, they still didn't sendybody mucking things up left,
right and center, and the Brummies the Brummies coughed their
way through the first half and then just came right
in the start of the second half. But the Chiefs
look finely tuned, and I wonder if they could be
almost I don't want to think of them, say the favorites,
(17:07):
but they could be peaking at the right point of
the season.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
We'll put it that way.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Yeah, we're hoping in Chiefs Country.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
All the Chiefs man of fans are kind of I mean,
g Lane's just pumped. He thinks he can't wait to
commentate the game four p thirty five pm on Saturday
here at the ACC. I'm shipping bricks as well, and
yes's on sky Sport nine. Because I sort of feel
like the Hurricanes have looked the best all season. I
think we could go back to old podcasts and even
(17:34):
week one, I was going, man, the Hurricanes look good against.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
The Force, just crisp, fast, powerful.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
The Chiefs finally picked there what we think is their
top team and their first fifteen, and it just showed that.
I guess, if you do want to if they were
kind of what would you call it, like working things out,
getting into some form, waiting for their all blecks, because
there are a few, and that you do need to
wait for them to get over the World Cup hangover
(18:04):
and start playing well. We've always seen that from all
these other franchises for years, you know, Richie Mccaorr having
you know, spluttering start to a Super Rugby season and
then just being the real Richie playoff time. So I
think there's a bit of that, and also just trying
to work out who they are. Without Brady Metallic, Sam
(18:25):
Cane and Brad Webber's you're pretty much your leadership group gone.
And now I think they're just getting things sorted. Should
be an absolute blockbuster to semi that one.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
I think it's the semi semi of the weekend. I
guess that's I'm actually thinking. I think the Chiefs what
sneak in there an upset that knock over the Hurricanes team.
I think that's if I was a betting man, which
I am, I'll be putting some money on the TB
which I will.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
I think that I reckon they're going to do it.
The Hurricanes.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
I mean they, like I said, they ended up beating
the Rebels by twenty seven points, but that's one v eight.
That's the team that just snuck in to the quarter
finals anyway, where the Chiefs was four verse five, so
you know, a bit more even he matched. The Reds
were on a decent run of form near the end
of the season, so they had a harder assignment and
still managed to do a fairly someone score the Canes
(19:16):
the Rebels.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
At first, I was thinking, what are you watching here?
Speaker 1 (19:18):
The Rebel's got to somehow, some way to get another game,
but no, they go.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
There's a couple of things that have happened to the
Chiefs that have made a huge difference. There's been a
noticeable uptick in the form of Tupo Vu. He's playing
like he is the senior lock now the senior pro.
He's not the biggest lock in the world, but he
is very combative and does a lot of a lot
of the dirty work. He's a turnover guy. He loves
defending and he carries well. So we sort of needed
(19:48):
to see the all round gamement from him that hasn't happened.
Probably earlier in the season. Wallace a Titi's come out
of freaking nowhere side Titty showing a bit of something,
a bit of class, a bit of mystery with the
side titt and if you started the season, he wouldn't
have been like, you wouldn't have considered him, Oh that's
our starting number eight. So he's made a massive difference.
(20:10):
But it's also meant that Luke Jacobson can go and
play number seven, which actually I think might be his
best position. He is very much like Sam Kine, a
defensive seven, huge defender and nullifies I guess whatever the
other team is trying to bring. So when you're playing
against the Hurricanes, your assignment is this is how shit
(20:31):
it is for anyone who plays them. Peter Larkeye replaced
by dupless Heather Duplessy careefy. That's tough, unbelievable, holy shit.
So yeah, that's I just reckon that. It's made a
massive difference to the team.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Yeah, they certainly looked the goods and just slack even
and they did seem to be super slack. I mean
the last home game of the season for them as well,
so then they were putting on a little bit of
a clinic for that. The Hamilton faithful and I mean,
what are they going down to Wellington will be a
decent continent of new chiefs mana fans shooting down the
Ireck and in that you're able to get some more
(21:05):
people in the sky standing because it's pretty woeful for
that hurricane in the Rebels game, it looked full and
then you saw a back angle when you know it's
it's empty.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Yeah, and four thirty five will help, I think after
the game and Walley, Yeah, the Chiefs fans will be
if there will be plenty that will travel. There's always
a bit of mana sprinkle all around, you know New
Zealand and the world. In fact, there's I saw a
great Chiefs jersey, a heritage one at one of the
at a Brisbane and the Reds game over there. I
was like, oh, that's a nice, nice jersey. So you
(21:36):
see them every a Perth. A lot of people from
the White Cuts will escape to work on the mines
of work in the mines now.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Chiefs and Kaines really clear before we get off that
as the semi final. Yeah, also quite adtant because they've
sort of dabbled and pulled from each other's regions over
over the history of super rugby, right, whether a wee bit.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
Of a swapping of New Plymouth and.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Also Napier, so they've been like, oh yeah, your Chiefs
now or a Hurricane all now switch are rue, You're
not anymore. So I do wonder if there might be
some sort of implanted fans who are now in the
Hurricanes and Chiefs regions who actually support the other team.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
There's been a lot of wife swapping going on in
Tatanaki and even before the Chiefs even existed, but it
was definitely when they did turn up.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
There's people who have.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Remained loyal to the Black and Yellow. Black and Yellow,
including the Barrett family. Clearly, Okay, I get it Smiley
played for the Canes. But kids growing up there, there's
a lot of them that are all about Chiefs. One
of those Taranaki kids and I know I've got a
couple of mates.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
He said, no, if the Chiefs are bringing their games here,
then we're Chiefs as well.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
So there's been a fair amount of that, but I
think just as well because we've got a lot of
Tatanaki players and the Chiefs. By the two players who
I noticed who have ended up at the Canes have
been outstanding or additions anyway, justin sanks to the lock
as a Toedunger kidd, he went to a Quinas College,
which is the Catholic school. Yeah, yeah, a bit of
(23:03):
a quinas and aquinas taste. And then you've got Pasili
or Tossi, who went to to do a boys high
and he's a monster. He is Godzilla, plays tidy prop
and I don't know how he slipped away from the
Chiefs scouts, but.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
He did miss him Tata naky fella.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
Should he have maybe?
Speaker 2 (23:25):
I guess he just said, I know we're on they
He was at Hastings Boys, so he would have been
in the Hurricanes system as a as a junior.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Yeah, right, you gets swallowed up.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
I mean it's pretty pretty resolute in terms of the
outside backs of the Chiefs. You know why theyre probably
like we're good, We're good, fair are good.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
So Hurricanes rebels, well, well, I think we've talked enough about.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Yeah, that's good, just very good and a very average quarterfinal.
When you think about its quarter finals should be at
least close, I kind of think yeah. And then we
go to the Blues Fiji and Drewer again thirty five
to five. It could have been fifty l At one
point I thought at twenty three at halftime, I thought, geez,
(24:07):
this could get really really grim here. And the last
ten minutes was having the more forgettable ten minutes I've
watched in a rugby game. I just seemed to pack
up a bit wet but slippery run was sort of
sliding around the place, scrum resets. But the Blues, I
don't know what the stats were. They must have dropped
twenty balls over the course of the game, if not more.
(24:27):
The handling was atrocious, and I think they're gonna have
to get their shit together if they're wanting to win
the whole thing.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
It'd be interesting game Blues Vests Brumbies.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Yeah, so the Blues.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
I didn't watch that game, but the way I look
at this whole whole season is, yeah, they've come in
and become way more combative and old school thanks to
old Verne Cotta, grizzled old veteran of the coach who said,
who wants to dominate every single breakdown? So throwing themselves
around the place. But then, like you say, the attention
to detail just isn't there. And I noticed I was
(25:00):
looking for highlights from the previous week for crowd go
as well. We sort of I do a rugby rap
on the Monday, and I was trying to find a
decent try from the blues and they're all just like
picking go from about a meter out. So somehow they
got down there doing some cool shit, but they're not
actually finishing, so they're relying on the big concrete mixes,
(25:20):
the big boppers to sort of like barge their way over.
And I mean, I guess it's what you're saying. Maybe
it's just a bit of accuracy.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Yeah, they certainly lacking accuracy. It was almost comedy of areas.
They were scoring tries by knocking the ball on Like
two tries I think in the first half was scored
by someone dropping the ball and it going backwards to
someone else who was able to pick it up and
dot down. Caleb Clark seem to be all at sea
for he did score two tries which I guess redeems yourself,
(25:52):
but they were both here's the ball running over, but
the handling was just an outrage. So hopefully they can
tidy that up there at home them this week again.
So I'm a seven o'clock game as well, so to
be fairly similar conditions.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
And it went and slippery.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
You know, it's the middle of winter, or at least
middle of June, which is the start of winter, but
you know. I'm one of my Jim Hickey, so I
imagine it will be pretty weird out there, the same conditions,
and they've got to tighten it up.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
They got a tight It is.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
A Friday, isn't it? Can I look at the weather
for Friday and an all class?
Speaker 4 (26:24):
Is it Friday? Is it not? Satdi?
Speaker 3 (26:27):
They're the one against the Brumbies, the.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
One against the Brumbies. It's Friday? So what's going on here?
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Why have we got a seven o'clock game on a
Friday and then a four to thirty game on a Saturday.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
It's a ninety chance of rain on a Friday. It's
the Theatitude Peninsula forecast, which is all I've got.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
Well that'll do.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
It'll do. I haven't got a Wellington forecast on me,
but do you want to look that up?
Speaker 4 (26:50):
I certainly can.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
And as it stands, the Blues absolute raging favorites at
the tav dollar twenty versus the Brumbies four dollars, and
I'd have to say that's good eating if you were
a Brummie fan or even just like that outrageous bet.
The Brumby's I mean took them a while, but they do.
We might as well slide over to that Rumbies game.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
So Wellington is the Saturday afternoon, which is forty rain
chance of rain for Wellie on Saturday afternoon.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Before we do go to the Brummies game. Is there
a reason why that game is at four point thirty
not seven o'clock.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
I think it was the Blues had the chance to
to choose a time and then they didn't end up
with the number one spot, so it became the Hurricane slot.
And because they didn't want to play with the Warriors,
which is so.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
The Warriors on Saturday night. Yeah, wow wee. I guess
that's the sign of the times.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
It's good to see Super Rugby actually thinking about it though,
because this is the thing that I mean, I've been
pretty critical of them, of Super Rugby in general this
year for not thinking about that sort of thing, and
it's putting it on and saying we're the hottest ticket
in town.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
We could do what we want. We don't need to
change our way.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
So good on yah, Super Rugby being adaptable getting people
in and not competing with the Wars. What a Saturday
that'll be, by the way, just start parking up.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
One last word as well, given that we've probably talked
about the semi finals and all that sort of stuff.
Is Brumby's Highland as your team going out. I watched
some of that, but I felt that after that heartbreak
of the soccer skills try, yeah, that you kind of
lost your mojo. I don't know why, because I was
(28:28):
only watching the extended highlights, but I noticed in the
build up to that try, Jik Rowling he was up
in the air trying to take the ball. He got
taken out in the air, was having a bleak to
the ref about it, which could have been a yellow
card on another day, but he didn't fall dangerously.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
He just so it came down on his feet.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
Always stayed out that secret.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Always act hurt. You've got to fucking sell it.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
But anyway, the guy kicks it over to a mere
head who controls it like fucking zadan As incredible, and
then he just then the ball bounces frohim. I thought
he hacked it he kicked it again, but the reverse
angle shows he just followed it and then popped up
for him. And that try, not that it was a
what do you call it, like a fourteen pointer or whatever,
but that try was what fiftieth minute or something.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Yeah, well there were two in a row, two very
close together. It went from being a very tight game,
I mean. And compound that with the fact that the
Brumby scored on halftime to go ahead.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
With the go ahead score.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
I think if they hadn't scored that try, we were
the Highlands were gone to the sheds being five points
up and going listen, guys, we're on here, we're on
with the upset. They scored a try in the fortieth minute,
go ahead too. Then the Brummis are up two points
and then in the start of the second half two
tries back to back, so it's three tries in a row.
(29:48):
It blows the score out bag and then the Highness thinking,
oh fuck, what are we going to do here? And
you know that there are a team of battlers. They
were battling away right to the bitter end. But it
just was just there was a tough second half. It's
not the second half you want to have at a
quarter final fixture. But they showed heart, they showed grit,
but they also were showing the door.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Well, the Brumbies, crocodile Brumbies, they are masters of the
death roll. They pretty much will suffocate any team that
goes over there. Generally it starts off with the rolling
mall and all that sort of stuff, but they just
do it. And it's that ship camera angle from the
from the stadium where.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
It's an awful camera angle. So shit, I'm glad you
said this. The whole time I was watching it's from
the back and low. When the Brumbies were attacking under
the trailer, I was I can't really.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
See anything, see anything.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
Backs are obscuring them all.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
So it's like, even if you've got someone watching the
game trying to sort of do some analysis, who knows
it would just be impossible. They'll probably put a massive
pillar in the way of in front of the visiting
coach's box or some fucking thing, because it just seems
that you go into this black hole is void and
in camera and nothing good happens unless you're repenting or
(30:58):
some freak, you know, and then all of a sudden
the game breaks open. But yeah, there is there's something
that happens there, a Bermuda triangle of rugby where only
shit goes down and people get lost.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
Yeah, well you know, I's got lost the crowd.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
This is the last quarter final in Australia, the only
Brumbies quarter final. They're representing the country. And it looked
like a Saturday afternoon game. There's no one there. It
wasn't passing down, it wasn't I mean, im sure it
was cold. It's Australia camera in the middle of winter,
but I mean, come on, what do you need camera?
Speaker 4 (31:29):
Get out there? Guess what you say?
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Well, Ossie, Twitter's gone nuts about We'll trying to defend it.
But what they've done is they've gone all and on
how shites the rules are of rugby, the laws now
and it needs to be changed and blah blah blah
the entertainment and there's a lot of people who are saying,
I'm a Brumby is till I die. I'm a Raiders
till I die. But the game right now isn't good enough.
(31:53):
And you know they're not saying how good they're going?
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Not good?
Speaker 4 (31:57):
No, you went in the you went in the quarter
final at home. You got to I support the team.
You're not a Brumby's fan.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Who you die if you're not going along to watch
their final home game exactly?
Speaker 2 (32:06):
That's We'll get on Twitter and can you reply to
this person. I mean, I don't know, but that's what
that's the feeling was that those are saying it's not
the same entertainment.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
Are you going to Twitter a bit of a miss
lately just due to hatred?
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Well, there's a pretty pretty gnarly I mean, I'm sure
someone's saying that the rugby is the worst part the
words ever, but it's probably the nicest thing you see
on Twitter at the moment. It's a real sispit and
videos of people getting dangerously.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Hurt, don't the Twitter is really worrying, especially for a
lot of people used to go to Twitter for news
because it was so immediate.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
But oh my god, that is it was the best.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
It was the best of them all, especially watching a
game on and having Twitter open at the same time. Yeah,
like a cricket like I'm watching the World Ticht Championship final,
watching the Cricket World Cup final in twenty nineteen with
Twitter at the same time.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
It's like a you know, it's like you we.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Get a little chut column and you find your little group,
but now it's just un saying gonna slit your throat
and oh, your dad's dead, and it's carnage.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
I'm going to fuck your mum. It's classic A z
Ad stuff.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
They coming all the way back and you just see
Raj Varmer from the A z in Ads getting his
final say because they called cute and said we're going
to roll with the kid saying your mum's calling you,
and then he's like, no, no, I'm back with the
extended mix, bitch. And not only do I fuck your mum,
I also my mom's dead and his head ghost is
(33:29):
going to haunt you for the rest of your days.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
You're not going to have a normal childhood.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Okay, that's the deepest I like that, just to be like, yeah,
she's gonna haunt you and your whole family, right, that's
all we do here.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Don't you think you're getting away with that kind of
sick burn on me?
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Out of the local domain, I know, great domain though
I don't know where that is.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
But what what a mass to the community I.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Was looking at was that Devenport I felt very much
like g Lane.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Gentrified Leafy certainly does feel like a place where you
know the community at teens public meetings. In order to
get such a facility, you know, people out were wheel
of the two busy working, the two busy trying to
make ends meat to be able to go to town meetings.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Right, we're going to take a break and do a
TB thing.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
Let's do it, and we're back at the Champagne Rabi podcast.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Bored GBO max Raft their insulated concrete slabs warming homes
around New Zealand, and now they want to give you
the chance to head to your team's nixt home game,
which would be pretty hard if your team has been
knocked out Taxs Heat and your super team to three
two three six and being a win a double pass
to your team's next home match, which can only be
the Blues and the Canes this weekend, and then maybe
(34:38):
the Canes.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
All the Blues next week, or it could be the Chiefs.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
The Chiefs could host the final against the Brummies because
there is two semi finals there on Friday night Blues
Brummies Eaeden Parks five, then Saturday four thirty kickoff Cairnes Chiefs,
all available Skysport nine with the AC's commentary. And what
a world that would be if the Canes went back
to Sorry, if the Chiefs went back to.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
FMG Female Stadium.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
It's the most unlikely result, wouldn't it with the Chiefs
feed Brumbies as a final, it's not gonna happen, I
can safely.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
Can we bet against that?
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Can we bet on it? I feel like this is
a great game day, good hunch.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Okay, we'll want you yet, because I've just been going
with try scorers and I thought, okay, so tou tou
almora Nadawa maybe, but I'm happy to go with your good.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Can we can we split? Can we do a fifty
dollars each? We've got one hundred dollars bonus bit to
spend on this. Can we do it too?
Speaker 4 (35:33):
No, let's stick. Let's stick to what we because we discussed.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
This off here quite extensively, and then I've come on
the mics are hot, and I've lost my mind and said,
let's bet on the Chiefs and the Brumbies. But no,
let's let's stick to our guys. Let's do sotu To
and Nadawa to score anytime try scorers and their respective games.
I think that's a bitter bit. It's probably paying more anyway.
I think that's let's go with.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
That one, okay, And I would quite happily go again.
It's your hot mic hunched out of nowhere, and say
a Cain's Blues final. It's probably paying bygarall.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
But yeah, I mean the two your favorites. I think
off the top of my head it was a dollar
twenty dollars sixty the Blues and the Hurricanes giving a
big thumb up from a producer.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
Why pretty pumped up with that?
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Why don't we do that? And and as half can
we do that?
Speaker 5 (36:25):
As half Adam for this, it'll be we've got to
go handy either way, handy okay, sorry, So if we
were to put those two together, it would be pain
is a multi a dollar only two?
Speaker 3 (36:37):
So Nana, We're not We're not going.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Can we can we make it a huge multi and
do the three Triscorers and the Hurricanes and the Blues
to make it's it?
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Can we do that? As a MAULTI yeah, I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
It's all right.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Well, let it be known that I've I've stuck my ore.
And for the Chiefs, Brumbi's final, the final no one wants,
the final that no one believes, and I think it's
going to happen.
Speaker 4 (37:03):
I think the Brumbies could come over if the Blues.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
Play as poorly as they played for parts of that game.
I'm not saying all the game, because obviously they did
play pretty well. Patches the Brumbies could, you don't They
could squeak in there and upset the applecart. They've got
some good players, they've got speed out wide. If they've
got men with ponytails.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
It is Sotutu, Alma and Nadawa to score a try,
along with the Canes and the Blues to win.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
This is a great game.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
They good pun I mentioned this, and you can hit
the TB website chairb dot co dot z or download
the TB app. She had all the Rugby union promos
and the boosted odds markets. But I reckon, that's good
eating that that be final. I think it's a good
it's a good shout.
Speaker 4 (37:45):
I'm going to take my own heart in money and
check it on that.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
I reckon, Yeah, you take your heart on money and
give it to whoever you like, because I feel like that.
Speaker 4 (37:54):
I feel like this is your team.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
I can't believe how down and out you are about
your your own team. If the Highlanders were in the
semi final, if they were playing the All Blacks, I
would still pick the Highlanders.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
There's no way.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
So we have seen this video to the Chief's headquarters
and say James with Cooney, supposed Chief super fan doesn't
believe in you.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
He doesn't believe that you can beat the Hurricanes.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
He doesn't believe you can go down there to Wellington
and this is a defeatist attitude.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
Quite frankly, I'm outraged.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
No, absolutely correct, Send it away. Hopefully we'll put a
rocket up their ass because that's what they'll need.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
To of you on their chalkboard and be to see
this guy. He comes into our trainings for Crago's wife.
It's like our friend, he says.
Speaker 6 (38:36):
There again he haw's it going to the CNA. Hey,
nice to see you fellas, you're playing well out there.
He doesn't believe. Let's make him believe. Let's prove the
ship head wrong. It's strip the Chief's jersey off his back.
Never again will be welcoming that training.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
And the dam from the ans in and as well,
and chuck him on the board because he has been
out there fucking moms all the time and nobody is
holding him to account. How many mothers is he going
to bang in Devenport?
Speaker 4 (39:06):
You're going to go all the.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
Next time, and there's going to be an effigy of
you and an effigy of Snil's dad, and they're just
going to be absolutely trashed, human extive and throwing them
javelins into them, a couple of Patu marks on the
side of them. They're really going to humiliate you next time.
You go, that's I'm happy for them to prove me wrong.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
It's one of those ones where I just look at
it and go, you know what, the money is always strong.
But commentating the game, it's going to be on Skysport
nine four point thirty five on Saturday. It's going to
be tough not to be a massive eyore in that
game and just go, oh my god, I knew this
was going to happen. But g Lane, it will just be
(39:45):
all hype. Don't worry. He is the hype guy in
that game, so he'll be all hype. Friday night it's
again sky Sport nine.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
Yeah, Blues.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
Tune and tune in. I still believe in the Chiefs,
Love you with all my heart. You know, I'm Chiefs
for life. Manna all day, White Cats. It's like die
cats or don't you worry?
Speaker 4 (40:08):
Oh thank you.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
Lastly, I'm looking forward to breaking this down into the
Brumbies Chiefs Final next week.
Speaker 4 (40:14):
One more week of Super rugby
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