E46: Flash Gordon (1980)

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Speaker 1 (00:17):
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Speaker 3 (01:26):
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Speaker 4 (01:48):
Nice.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
Hell, yeah, we're covering it. My pick tonight flash Gordon
from nineteen eighty my birth.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Year nineteen eighty. Yeah, we're coming up on the almost
the forty fifth anniversary of this film. This has been
a one that's been on my watch list for a
long time. But why do you choose it for as Ciderberg,
Manga Berg Minga Mingaberg The Merciless.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
Mmmm uh yeah, so I chose this film. This is
a film that I used to watch as a kid
with like a sense of awe when I watched it,
it's like so fantastical. I remember being really excited if
i'd see it like advertised on HBO or television that
it would be on. It would always be one like
I want to check out. I don't know if I
would always finish it, but I would always catch moments

(02:36):
of it, so in my mind i'd piece it together
and it felt like I watched it a bunch of times.
I probably only seen it like once and a half
or some shit, and then fully now as an adult.
But uh yeah, it's just a film. That's it's It's
kind of iconic too in pop culture, so it's got
some bones. I thought we'd cover it. I thought it
would make for a decent conversation. And you guys both
hadn't seen it, right, No, I.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Hadn't seen this one. Did you ever watch any of
the old serials, read any of the comic strips or
like anything like that, or it was just this film
that you came to.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
Just really the film. And then I've seen stuff of
the comic strips and the serials, but never actually like
you know, took them in. Okay, all right, but I'm
aware of like the impact that sort of Flash Gordon
has had on like Spacemen and stuff like that, and
sci fi and comic strips of like, you know, dudes,
a lot of people have aped his character for other

(03:28):
things like Futurama, right that. Oh yeah, captain dude, he
sort of like a Flash Gordon.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
So Buck Rogers and Flash Gordon were kind of the original,
you know, great comic heroes. You know that obviously led
us into things like Batman and Superman and all the
great comic book heroes that we know of nowadays. But
these are the guys that got it started. It was
these characters.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
Right yeah, science fiction comics, yeah really yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
So that's why I chose it. You know, it's an
older film, and I just thought it's from my youth,
so I just thought it would be interesting to cover
it on here, bring it in much like over the
top yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
All right, well let's give that pended Hydroberg spoiler or
minga Burgh spoiler warning and getting the synopsis and we'll
talk about how we got to the film.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
All right, please, nuts you ready, A football player and
his friends travel to the planet Mango and find themselves
fighting the tyranny of minga merciless to save Earth.

Speaker 4 (04:38):
Yeah, dude, a little Jets quarterback and you're a fucking hero. Dude,
you know Smith.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
That's all it takes, Bro, That's all it takes. This
is he's this dude. Uh, he's a He's a real
football player, right, Sam.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
Jones, No, Sam Jones was No, he was athlete, but
he was never a never a professional athlete, and and
you ain't. Yeah, but the character of Flash Gordon is
an athlete, and obviously in this version he's a quarterback
for the New York Jets. In the original I think this,

(05:13):
I don't know if it was in the comics, but
the serials he was a polo player. So it's so
he was always an athlete of some sort. So Flash
Gordon films adapted from the comic created by Alex Raymond,
which was a daily comic strip you would read in
the paper reprints are actually still being put in some
papers today due to its popularity. Comic books have also

(05:35):
been produced. Some of them are just reprints of the
daily comic strip, you know, some of like what you
have with like Garville the Peanuts, but others have created
original storylines and as recently as twenty fifteen, new comics
with designs from Alex Ross, who was also a gigantic
fan of the comic and has stated this is his
favorite film. Him and the team had worked to create

(05:57):
their own Flash Gordon comics, and I think they're actually
works of a new comic for Flash Gordon coming out
here pretty soon. So as a twenty twenty three new
comic company, they're gonna be They bought the rights, so
they're gonna come out with some new stuff. Because of
the popularity of the comic strip, film serials came out,

(06:17):
starring Buster Krabb, who was also a huge film serial star.
He did Tarzan, Buck, Rogers, and Billy the Kid, and
the film serials started in nineteen thirty six, with two
more being produced in thirty eight and nineteen forty. They
were extremely popular and, along with the comic, inspired many
filmmakers and producers like George Lucas and the producer of

(06:39):
our film, Dino de Laurentis. Lucas was desperate to make
a film aditation of Flash Gordon, but couldn't afford to
acquire the rights and decided to make Star Wars instead. However,
Dino de laurentis the producer who's done films like King
Kong seventy six, Orca, Halloween two and three, et cetera.
I mean, the guy's done that, He's produced so many films.

(07:02):
Did have the money, Yeah, did have the money, and.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
Yeah, better than Judge, some would say that.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
And he decided to begin working on getting a feature
length film made. Queen and Howard Blake did the soundtrack
for the film, and that's become an iconic soundtrack. And
I think even if you've never watched the film, you've
heard the soundtrack. Everyone's heard Flash Gordon. It's fucking awesome.
And the movie was filmed in London in two studios,
and that wasn't enough. They also rented out a six

(07:36):
million cubic beat aircraft hangar because of the gigantic sets
that they had to build and that so this was
directed by Mike Hodges, who's done films like Get Carter,
The Ternal Man. Croupier doesn't have a huge lineup of movies.
He had a very short I think he only did
like ten films, but they all seem very interesting and

(07:57):
he was not the initial Yeah, he was not the
initial director that was considered for this film. Initially, DeLaurentis,
who loved working with Italian casts and crew, wanted fame
Italian director Frederico Fellini, who's donned films like Eight and
a Half and Adult gen Vita. But after Balini told
him he would do it, never did anything. He just

(08:17):
kind of abandoned the project without ever doing anything. After that,
director Nicholas Rogue and writer Michael Allen came on, and
their biblical epic version of the film actually sounded really awesome.
If you watched the extras on the thirty fifth anniversary
Flash Gordon four K, you kind of hear about like

(08:37):
the lost Flash Gordon movie that was never made, sounded
really cool. I was actually kind of interested in hearing
what they had planned, but because the screenplay was too serious,
Gino Delarentz inspired them and then he that's when he
brought on Mike Hodges with writer Lorenzo simple as a screenwriter,
and that's how we got to the film that we
have today.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
Nice. I like the I like the opening. I like
Ming being like introduced to Earth while he's uh like
getting his ring on and you just hear the best
like his I guess it's uh, what's his name, the
gold face dude, Cletus.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
I think it's about Yeah, Yeah, they're talking about the
planet and I think it's called Earth, yeah, you know,
and they're like fucking with it. You could see, like
there's all these natural disasters happening right away. We get
a glimpse at Ming and I kind of just like
you see his hands and it's very villainous. You know,
it's cartoony for sure. That's this movie is definitely exaggerated.

(09:41):
And that's dude.

Speaker 4 (09:42):
It's like the perfect level of cheese. It's like it
to me, it never felt like too over the top
cheek like it was like it was like road that
threshold perfectly.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
Like it plays like a live you know, like play
almost like you're watching a stage.

Speaker 4 (09:57):
Yeah, that's a really good way to put it.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
But we're quickly jumping in the new sets, you know,
nice set.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
I'll be honest because I I really dove deep on this,
so I watched I rewatched all the Old Cereals. I
kind of did that, and did.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
You rewatch Driving with Daisy? Also for this one, well.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
That was for that was for a couple of weeks ago.
I did that. But no, this is surprisingly close to
the same type of cheesiness that you got with the
Old Cereals, which Dino del Lorentos is a huge fan of.
And that's I think. I don't know if he was
going more towards the Kai because I don't know if
he read the comic, but I know he watched the

(10:38):
Cereal because there's so many things that are so similar
to the Cereals that I was like, Okay, this is
where he was really impired by him what he wanted
to look. Yeah, and it is. They are cheesy, but.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
They're practically made thing. But yeah, the details dialed up
though in a lot of the practicality that's the set
dressing and the costuming. Oh dude, really impressive. And we
got images of the original comic strip flashing on Happening
on Earth and we see like the little on mings
like ship. It says like hurricane like hot hell, Hot Hell,

(11:12):
that's when we get to our boy. After that, can
you get that hot hell? You know what I mean?
And that's when yeah, we q in on our boy,
Jets quarterback Flash Gordon. I guess he's taking a private
plane or just a plane some trying to get out
to a game or I don't know.

Speaker 4 (11:27):
That's what it seemed like.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
What. Yeah, that's why I assumed he because because we
have Dale who was a She's a reporter, so I
get I'm assuming a sports reporter, like he's plying out to.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
A game on his way to like the beginning of
the season.

Speaker 4 (11:41):
Maybe or something.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
Yeah, in a.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
Typical Jets fashion, like you know, he ends up getting
in a plane crash ball, you knows, some disaster happening
to the Jets.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
But again, it was a great idea like roll out
during the hot hailstorm.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
I know, I know exact uh, but yeah. Sam Jones
plays Flashborton. He's a journeyman film and TV actor. This
is his most famous role by bar uh. He actually
beat out Kurt Russell and Arto Sawschanger for the role,
supposedly because Dino de la Renz is his mother in law,
saw him on the dating game and liked his look.

(12:20):
But he did work. He did work hard for his role,
making sure he saved in great shape. But unfortunately, due
to conflicts between him and then the producer over potential
payment problems that were going on, he actually was dubbed
over for most of his lines and was not uh
there with the cast during press towards, which a lot
of people think affected the uh the success of the film.

(12:45):
When he speaks, it does, Yeah, because I was going
to ask I also could I watched the I watched
Light after Flash, the documentary about this film, and you know, obviously, yeah,
Sam Jones is kind of the uh, the the highlight
of that of that documentary, and they talk about that,
you know, the the Canadian actor that they got to

(13:08):
dub his voices. It's not it does not sound like
him at all. So we got his body, but we
don't have his performance. And he actually worked really hard
for this role, like yeah, cray.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
I got used to it. So yeah, it's like, you know,
I don't know they dialed it in enough, but yeah,
I noticed that there was like a hallway scene with
him and the girl. I think at first I was like,
what is this dubbed? I don't remember that it is,
so they're getting the coined in the playing him and
the reporter.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
Dan dale Arden played by Melody Anderson, also a Journeyman actor.
She did The Dead and Buried and Virewalker a lot
of TV credits. She actually replaced a different actor. There
was supposed to be a different actors played for I believe.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
Yeah, it's pretty good.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
Yeah. Uh. She replaced Canadian actor and model Dale Hadden
because De Laurenti says, you look way too emaciated, so
we're gonna get somebody else.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
Wait, so dale Arden replaced Dale add in Yeah what.

Speaker 5 (14:10):
Yeah, well yeah yeah, the sun.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
Getting blocked out by the red atmospheric smoke. I thought
that was pretty cool. When he's like they're looking out
the window like everything's cool, and then all of a sudden
he notices like something's up.

Speaker 4 (14:30):
Yeah, yeah, something's up.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
What's that hot hail hits a puddle or something like that.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
You get that that was just the sparks of their
relationship beginning, and he.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
Talked to he talks to the pilots and then they
just disappear, right like they kind of just sap out
of existence. And what happened, Like they go off to
the front of the windows. Cut.

Speaker 4 (14:53):
Yeah, the windows broken open, so I thought it.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
Is Yeah, I guess it's like super fast it all happens.
I thought.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
I thought Ming like. I thought Ming like disappeared them
like he did like the people.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
Yeah, he uses ring old ring meng ring. You know
what I mean that the ring Ye, the old meng ring. Uh.
But yeah, I like the effects. They're cheesy in a sense,
but like high quality cheese, like I greg them. We
make these zany scientists though they're not my favorite part.

(15:27):
I'll be honest, they're a little like too zany from
my Yes, at first, I don't know if you want
to go any actors.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
Yeah, yeah, so h well, the one that we care
about is Hans Zarkov, who's played by him to Paul
was an Israeli actor. He was Teva and Biler on
the roof. Uh. So here's the here's another crazy story
about this film. The role they could decide between two actors.
It was between him to Paul and war Notes. War Notes,

(15:53):
who had been in like The Wild Bunch, Two Lane,
Black Top and the Heat of the Night, a bunch
of great films. And when they could decide between the
two actors. Dino de Laurentis tossed the coin and it
was like heads was one and tails was the other,
and that's how they got high. To Paul, he won
the coin toss and that's how he got into the film. Yeah, Like,

(16:18):
I I don't know. I mean I like him to Paul,
he's a great actor, but it's it's so weird that
like his whole reason he's in the film is over
a coin toss.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
Well, I mean he was still up for the role.
It's not you know what I mean, But yeah he was.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
I just think it's I find it funny, that's all. No, Definitely,
he starts off as like kind of like a psychotic weirdo. Yeah,
but the same thing uh into It's like you're gonna
go into space.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
Goddamn it, I'm gonna someone has to sacrifice himself, so
one person worth the billion, right right?

Speaker 4 (16:58):
Yeah. I thought it was hilarious when the hot hail
comes down and likes that dude's bed on fire. Yeah,
and he jumps out of bed and he had his
fucking shoes on.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
Dude.

Speaker 4 (17:08):
I was like, what serial killers.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
Do any he's an astronomer or whatever the fuck kind
of scientists say.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
He probably doesn't. He probably eats his cereal without milk too,
you know, a serial killer.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
Yeah, it was crazy. Uh yeah, So our boy Flashy
lands the plane and because the pilots disappeared, uh, and
he just happens to crash land into these greenhouses which
happened to be where the doctors are. It's all played
all it's played very fast and loose. I'll be honest. Uh,
you know, all to get flash and Ardent into the

(17:41):
rocket ship basically needed to to launch and to save
you know, Earth.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
This is exactly what happens in the cereal by the way, Yeah, okay, so.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
And then you're like easily duped into it, like we
need a telephone so we can call for help, and
he's like, hey, it's right in there.

Speaker 4 (17:54):
Oh yeah, dude, that's whine real quick. I don't want
to skip over how hilarious it is when he comes
in and he's got to fly the plane and he's like, well,
luckily I've been taking flying lessons, and then the chick
is like, did you get to the part of the
lessons where you know how to land? Like, oh, yeah,
I was hoping you wouldn't ask that no, I never
got that far.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
Yeah, I know that. I'm thinking about it, like it's
bookended a little bit like foreshadowing. He crash lands here
and almost hits that one doctor with the tip of
the plane. Then later he ends up be piling ming.
Oh yeah, crash landing, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
The bookend. Yeah, a couple of book and films. I
had to I had to protect that.

Speaker 4 (18:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
I had to protect that note, you know, because I
never know if you're over my fucking show there, Rob.

Speaker 4 (18:39):
We got them show.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
I'm uh, I'm picking up what's putting down and I'm
liking it.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
I know, you know, I gotta I gotta get my
notes somehow. Sometimes I gotta steal him.

Speaker 3 (18:54):
Know anyway, does any scientists you know? He becomes charming
over time, But I'm be honest, at first, I was like,
who the fuck is this guy? Like get him out
of here. But I could see it was just a mechanism. Basically,
They're like, hey, we got to get these guys on
the fucking ship real quick, you know, get the plot going.
There's a little tussle between him and the and there's
this whole like you gotta put your foot on the
red pedal, like the red pedals arbitrary, like I don't know,

(19:17):
that's the only thing that's stopping us from dying in space,
Like okay, it's a little weak, but yeah. And then
the doctor speaks about like this whole thing is about friendship.
It was all about friendship, like as if like I
don't know, the only reason this thing should ever have
went into space was to communicate with aliens for friendship.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
Yet you held a gun to somebody's head to get
him on the spaceship initially, So.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
Yeah, I don't know that was just to save everybody.
Why is it that he couldn't go in this ship?
He had to stay around. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
Maybe he was scared. That's that's fine. Way it was.

Speaker 4 (19:55):
And it's funny. It's like when you think about it,
did we keep calling him this crazy freaked out and
like wild scientists. The fact of the matter is, I
mean he was the only man on earth who was right,
you know what?

Speaker 2 (20:05):
True?

Speaker 3 (20:07):
And he's not really a crackpot when we get up
in the space right right, well, and I mean.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
He also stumbled on the one person who is just
like this ordinary man who is also right for the
for the part, like to do what needs to be done,
which it, like I said, it's very convenient, but that's
kind of what the story is, which is I think
kind of what makes Flash Horton kind of interesting. Why
a lot of people like this character because he is

(20:36):
an ordinary man doing extraordinary things.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
Yeah, that's why I'll save every one of us.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
Yep, that's right.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
You know. I like this too. When they get up
in the space, they're like drifting and the two start
holding hands, and then the it's like they're traveling into
an oil painting. It looks like an oil painting, like
black plank. Yeah, and then it gets trippy.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
They're traveling into a lava lamp. That's what's going on.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
Yeah, it's very oil painting sort of look to it. Like,
because there are Matt backgrounds in this movie, I'm sure
there's a ton of actual like all practical ship.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
Yeah. So Mike Hodges talks about that too, because initially
the background was just going to be painted as far
as like the sky, the sky and then what they're
flying into. He's like, no, those backgrounds seem to be animated.
That's why he kind of has that lava lamp look
to it. But yeah, there are a lot of like
nice matte paintings that they do, and they look.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
Great, like when the ships are turning and ship there's like, yeah,
painting behind it to show it works. Man. It shows
that cool like sci fi vibe to me for sure.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
It's like I said, it's a heightened version of this
of the cereal, which I'm going.

Speaker 3 (21:42):
To talk about a lot. Yeah. So I think the
cheese there's a charm to the cheese. If you're picking
that up. If you're just anti cheese altogether, then it's
not for you. But if you can understand why what
the cheese is and what the flavor of the cheese is,
if I guess you know, and.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
I think that's I love. I like the flavor.

Speaker 3 (22:01):
Yeah there. I like this moment they're found on the
monitors by the planet forces and we get the dudes
with the scanners on their faces for a moment there
which we find out later or attached to their eye
sockets basically, which is pretty nearly and they're like basically
scanning them. They can read that there's life forms on them,
and they can land the plant the craft for them

(22:22):
because you know, they what's his name is just coming
out of his cryo sleep or whatever, I guess, and
so they crash land and then they're taken by the
landing crew and I thought this part was cool. I
unfortunately they don't go back to it really, but there's
these detachable hand weapon things that the Yeah, but they
don't use them again later. I would have liked to
see the guards have those.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
Did they They technically use it on Princess Aura, but although.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
It's like she loves loves those things, they probably created
those chokers just for princess. She's a freaking leak.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
Yeah, we're going to talk about her as soon. But
those things, to dude.

Speaker 6 (23:03):
Everybody's everybody, oh god, yeah, But I just I do
like this moment they're like have the forced to land.

Speaker 3 (23:13):
He comes out and they just grab him up and
all the red and gold and the castle and the
guards are just fucking pops.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
It's just like pageantry to the introduction of like this
planet and Ming and his inner workings, and I just
love it all. It's very fucking grandy, dude.

Speaker 4 (23:29):
Probably, like my my my favorite thing about the movie,
I think is the costumes and just the whole amazing.

Speaker 3 (23:38):
Half skull dudes with the fucking hoods and like the
gold half skull faces like the gold Men's guys are
I don't know, it's very Nazish slash Santa like satanic cult.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
Yeah, I all those all the costumes were handmade by
Italian women. They were the heaviest. Oh yeah, yeah, I
mean like literally all the sequence they were put in
by hands, sewn by hand.

Speaker 4 (24:05):
It really shows, yeah, it does.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
I mean that's the highlight of the film.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
And also they put their acts.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
Yeah, all the actors complained about how heavy they were
because some of them were like they looked like fifty pounds,
like the little guy. So the guy who plays General Klitis,
Peter Winguard, he actually heard like he his costume was
so fucking heavy, like he couldn't stand for very long
ten minutes at a time.

Speaker 3 (24:31):
He's a mix of skeletore and death stro from fucking
like doctor doctor.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
Yeah, yeah for sure.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
And he had the like the voice of like that
lead shut dude. It was awesome. He was he was awesome.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
Yeah, I was cool, very cultish, especially him his division,
like yeah, because he's sort of a little bit.

Speaker 4 (24:54):
It seems like it was it's like his own card.

Speaker 3 (24:57):
It's like the Nazis in a sense like he's like
the you know, he's the S S.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
Guy or whatever like of the division Division.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
Yeah, exactly, he's got the dungeon downstairs with the lizard men.
Those are the weakest part two. The lizard guys. They
look so weird. It's like one of those stuff like yeah,
and then you can see the guy's face of the eyeball.
It's so weird looking.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
The worst costume puppets.

Speaker 3 (25:21):
Yeah, I don't know if it's I guess they're meant
to look that cheesy.

Speaker 4 (25:25):
Seems intentional, Yeah, because if everything else was so so
top tier, unless if that was the one spot where
they're like, fuck, we forgot about the lizard.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
Guys, Like all right, let's.

Speaker 4 (25:36):
On the song.

Speaker 3 (25:37):
Yeah, little check this out. I'll blow some air into
a fucking rubber glove, put it over my head, and
then little fucking eyeballs, look, I'm a lizard guy and
he's supposed to be threatening to like hurry up before
the lizard men come, you know what I mean. Then
they show up and it's like yeah, but yeah, I
do love like the little ball thing that the security
drone that goes around and the whole I don't know,

(26:00):
people showing up to sort of like bring gifts toming
you know, he's like taken over basically.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
I also see like there's definitely a lot of stuff
that was used in this film though is also very
Star Wars.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
Ask I see like we're coming out around the same time.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
Well yeah, like I said, uh, Star Wars years before
this Empire came out. I think the same year eighty.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
I think it came in this fucking movie when they
go to the Princess's fucking pleasure planet Plan Pleasure Moon,
which is by by the way, take me away to
that fucking place, say Less, Yeah, there's only room for two, John.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
But no, this is, like I said, this is one
of the projects that George Lucas was in love with.
So it makes sense that a lot of the stuff
that we see in this film is in Star Wars. Yeah. So,
and we're gonna we have a film coming up in the.

Speaker 3 (26:54):
Fi city, Cloud City. Yeah, there's that's going on here.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
Yeah, And like I said, if weeks, we're gonna talk
about one of his other inspirations, Hidden Portress, and yeah,
we're gonna. I had never thought about Flash Gordon being
something that George Lucas likes. But man, there's so much
here that.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
Oh no, it was one of his major focuses on.
I mean, Luke's supposed to be like a young sort
of flashboarded splash Yeah, very much.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
So.

Speaker 3 (27:19):
Yeah, his name was Starfighter, right or star Killer originally, Yeah,
star Killer or something like that. Yeah, and then he
abandoned that name and that's why they reuse it in
that video game with right character. But yeah, I just
like this, like when we get to meet Ming and everything,
They're brought in and just kind of observing, like we
are the audience of like the daily thing workings of

(27:43):
going on. Here comes in Prince fucking the Baron, and
here comes Hawkman and you know what I mean, all
these people coming in. I like this moment where they
Ming makes this guy kind of like because he's merciless,
he makes some fucking falling started himself. Ming's like Entrance Brow.
Just the way he's like calms down, very down that hallway.

(28:03):
It's very reminiscent of like a wrestling fucking entrench nowadays.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
Fuck yeah. Theatrical, Yeah, yes, we got maxwan Seado, who
great actor plays Emperor Ming. The merciless. He's been in
movies like The Seventh Seal, The Greatest Story Ever told,
I'll never say never again that you'll know that John
Shutter Island. Yeah. And then we got a prince, Prince

(28:30):
Baalen played by one Timothy Dalton. You know him from
a couple of James Bond films.

Speaker 4 (28:36):
The Bond Man.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
He was in Toy Story three and four, Cromwell and
John You'll love this. He was in The Crown the
fifth season.

Speaker 3 (28:46):
Yoah, should check him out in Penny Dreadful?

Speaker 1 (28:49):
Is he in that?

Speaker 2 (28:50):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (28:50):
Wow, Penny Dreadful is dope.

Speaker 4 (28:53):
I remember wanting to get into that, Like I remember
watching some of the like Taylor Swart and I was like,
it looks dope.

Speaker 3 (28:58):
I just got an unmoniously like canceled. We're like told
to end or I don't know, somewhere like it ended
and didn't even tell fans until it was over. It
was like, well, by the way, that was the ending.

Speaker 4 (29:09):
Who was the the that?

Speaker 3 (29:12):
Yeah, gosh, Hart, it's in it. And it's all these
like literature nots to like modern like sounds like a
modern take on some of that stuff like Frankenstein and Wolfman,
And you should check it out.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
Yeah, we also have a Brian Blessed who plays Prince Bolton.
He's the leader of the Hawkman. He was in Uh
did the Voice of Clayton and Tarzan Disney's Tarzan. He
was the leader of the Gungans and Star Wars episode
won the Phantom Menace. He was also in Robin Hood
Robin Hood, The Prince of Thieves. Dude, I love this guy.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
He is awesome.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
I like the actor.

Speaker 3 (29:47):
He's what I remember a lot from my memories as
a kid.

Speaker 4 (29:50):
Yeah, he's pretty animated.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
Yeah, I remember him on the screen flying around and
he's just.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
And we also see we also have the s and
M Princess Princess Aura played by Ornella Mutti, who's an
Italian actress and like I said, Dino likes to use
Italian actresses in his roles, and my god, she is
a fucking fox.

Speaker 3 (30:15):
Dude said it once too. A lot of times the
Italian movies will be like really uh nice set pieces,
gorgeous set pieces and like gorgeous women, and then like
the dialogue won't be as good, but all the flash
and stuff, oh will you know, really just jazz up
the movie the scenes anyway, so oh, I.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
Mean that's that's the total Dino de Lorenzo's thing.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
Yeah. I do love that Aura's character too, and she
wants flash to herself. She asked her father for him.
Oh she's supposed to be wed. Yeah, because she's I
do like that, because she's the you know, Mang's daughter
who's like, you know, in charge of everything. But I
like that there's like we see that there's like a
currency economy to everything, like this bureaucracy of everything going on.

(31:02):
There's something here.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (31:04):
We don't really delve into it too much about like
what's been going on in this world like who reports
to who? And I find it interesting though that like
everybody was kind of living their lives and now they
live under Ming and they don't necessarily want to, but
they do.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
Yeah, it seems what it seems like is that Prince
Baron was kind of like the leader of just based
off like looking at the lore, it sounded like Prince
Baron was the guy and because uh Ming the Merciless
came in and kind of just swung his stick around.

Speaker 3 (31:38):
Ming the ring.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
Yeah. Yeah, and what kind of the same thing that
he gives a flash Cordner later on the like hey, yeah,
I couldn't kill you, So I'll let you have your
planets or your your kingdom, and you'll be under me,
and I'm gonna take what I want from that, but
it's gonna be your thing. And that that's kind of

(32:00):
what I think happens. And even though they resent Ming,
but Ming is too powerful for them, so they just succumb.
It's like, well, I could live or I could die.
I'm gonna live.

Speaker 3 (32:10):
That's what they choose, yeah, because to get that, other
guy has to kill himself for.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
It's only until this outsider in Flash Gordon, who refuses that,
and that's where like they get the courage to stand
up against it.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
There's this like operatic nature to the film too that
I like, sort of of like the set pieces and
the grandiose of things, like you know, just the music
swelling over scenes of yeah, of scenes of just like
ships turning and stuff like that and getting ready for battle.
Like it's stuff that could be fluff, uh, but you
know it works for this film. It's you know, it's

(32:44):
the set dressing and stuff that you kind of you
paid this ticket to see this kind of stuff, you
know what I mean? For a film like this, I
do like his introduction to when he's sort of like, oh,
I'm a Jet's quarterback, flash Gordon, you know what I mean,
Like when he's asked who he is?

Speaker 2 (32:58):
That is funny, squarter New York.

Speaker 4 (33:00):
What do you think?

Speaker 2 (33:02):
What did you?

Speaker 3 (33:02):
What did you guys think of it? Like this first
action scene of like like him taking out some henchmen
with some rock and music, you know, fucking football style.

Speaker 4 (33:11):
Dude, it was great. It went a little left when
he started calling out plays and setting, but I thought
it was cool man him pick him running up and
then do what you know, you know, yeah yeah, and
then the guy like I thought it was funny right
when he's getting the better of him and he pulls
the what is it cleat us over and he's like,

(33:31):
did you give them the right pills?

Speaker 2 (33:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (33:35):
Like you should kill their trainer? Yeah yeah, So I
don't know what kind of pills they're taking and what
kind of men those are, right, I mean the princess
takes them. I mean Arden takes a bunch out later.

Speaker 4 (33:46):
So yeah, yeah, but yeah, it was cool though. I
thought it was a good setup for sure.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
Yeheah. They're like paper people, I guess, like from Guardians,
But I thought it was funny. Then he gets knocked
out by the doc who can't throw well and thrown
around that fucking helmet baze or some ship eggs or
yeah it was.

Speaker 4 (34:04):
Yeah, we keep getting the hawk man. I thought it
was funny. We kept getting the cut to the hawkman,
just knocking the same dude out over and over with
that fucking with his cane. I got pop on, he's
all you just kept just kept cutting to that. I
thought that was hilarious.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
He's got the one move and then he's taken to
the gold Faces dungeon Cletus titus general clitus clitus colitis,
apply ointment to your clitis. Yeah, yeah, and we get
more lizard people done here. That's where you get a
really good look at him. That's why I that's where
that's where it says it right here, it says, dude,

(34:39):
those lizard people look rough.

Speaker 4 (34:42):
Especially because everything else was so good, so they stand
out so bad, Like it's like it's if everything else
would have been mediocre, it may have been a little
bit easier to kind of swallow, but when everything else
looks so fucking good, and then that just kind of
jumps out like.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
It's like a crackhead Muppet all of a sudden just
exactly what the fuck is this?

Speaker 2 (35:02):
Exactly and almost looks like, oh fuck, we gotta put
the lizard people, and like they forgot like happy part
of the assignment, you know.

Speaker 3 (35:09):
Yeah, uh man, but yeah, and then the princess say
splash right, so he's he's supposed to be put to death.
We get the whole ceremony this. I just I do
like this whole Like they're definitely cribbing from the Nazis
for this. And the Satanic imagery of like Maine nondescript
so no, but just like his like his his inner

(35:31):
workings and the like the design of everything. It's like
nondescript Satanic sort of you know, almost like you remember
the pank voids the wall you ever seen. Yeah, it's
evokes that a little bit, like sort of like the Kremlin,
like the sickle and uh yeah, hammer or any any
of those things that I guess it seemed like could

(35:52):
be a threat back then in the eighties.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
It's Satanic Nazis from space.

Speaker 3 (35:56):
Yeah exactly. I mean that's a big threat. Satanic Nazis
from space for sure, terrifying. Yeah, but yeah, so his
death is faith. Yes, because the the Ora wants a
little piece. She's not ready to let go her boy
toy hair Flash. She's like saw something in this human.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
Yeah, that's a strong Ming. Ming couldn't kill him, and
he looks good, and it's like, I gotta I gotta
get me a piece.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
He's a boy, he's a big yeah for sure. And
we see she gets around man, she's faking his death.
The doctor who helped her do it, he was getting
a piece of that for a little while too.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
He is her is her little person on the leash.
Is he getting a piece too?

Speaker 3 (36:38):
She's insatiable, bro, I mean, she's the princess's daughter, so
what she wants. But yeah, she even gives Flash. Uh,
she gets him on. She gives him a uniform to
wear so he can blend in. And that's where we
see Ming. He's wiping the doctor's mind. Yeah at this point,
which is kind of sad, Like I he spent his
whole life like filling it with knowledge. And then Ming's

(37:00):
like just he deemed him because of he deemed him
dangerous because of earth and his little like his little
way of thinking.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
I think it's also a clever way of giving us
the background of Hans Zarkov as well, and like the
tragedy that he's gone through, like like his family, his
like wife passed away.

Speaker 3 (37:21):
He went through the questions question did the wife pass
away just because they jokingly through her in a pool
and then she drowned?

Speaker 4 (37:27):
Yeah, bro, that's what it like.

Speaker 3 (37:29):
And someone just jumping in and grab her, like, yeah.

Speaker 4 (37:31):
That's what it looked like.

Speaker 3 (37:32):
It's I know, all of a sudden, right is that
I almost I don't know, it's that's what it looked like.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
Yeah, it's just it seemed like they were fucking around
and then she ended up drowning or something like that.
And yeah, that was like one of the horrible memories
that it.

Speaker 3 (37:51):
I guess she's sucking enough water, that's all it takes.
Even if you got her out in two seconds. If
she sucked water in face first and it's in the
lung and you just can't get it out, and yeah,
she's gonna draw. So it really take a little bit
of water to drown. So I don't know, it just
plays out silly though, he's sort of like super silly.
It's like it's like if they showed a guy winning

(38:12):
the touchdown at the super Bowl and they dumped the
fucking gatory bucket on him and next thing you know,
he's drowned dead like a fish around.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
What the fuck? That sounds like something that would happen
to the Jets.

Speaker 3 (38:26):
Yeah, actually, but in nineteen eighty, aren't the Jets like good?

Speaker 2 (38:31):
Yeah? I mean the Jets have been pretty terrible most
of their existence. What about outside of like the super
Bowl winning things? That's one.

Speaker 4 (38:45):
Joe cool.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
Yeah, but we see the doctor he survived the Nazis,
We do see that, and so they reprogram him here
or they and they say, he says, don't go above
level three. I was getting Princess vibe Princess.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
Yeah, yeah, I was thinking about that too.

Speaker 3 (39:02):
Yeah, even though this, you know, this predates it, but yeah,
and that the human mind couldn't take it if you
go above level three. And then the bitch as soon
as Cleatus walks out, Clay I forgot her name, but
she's like the baroness sort of.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
She's like or something general general calla yeah, because she
she loves she loves Yeah, like I said, they're part
of the S and M division.

Speaker 3 (39:25):
Yeah, uh yeah, so she's like dial that ship up
to six.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
Yeah, she's also an Italian actress, Mari Angela Milio.

Speaker 4 (39:35):
She was pretty good. She was pretty good looking.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
Yeah, oh yeah, she's she.

Speaker 3 (39:40):
Was as far as like, dude, don't funk with her.
She was a threat. No, I liked her. Yeah, but
yeah she dials it up. And then what we do
find out is that uh, car carvov I mean, our
car was able to kind of think of things and
recite things to himself to keep his intelligence, sort of

(40:02):
keep his mind off of it, so they weren't able
to actually pinpoint I guess memories to suck out, you know,
but it seems that way. Yeah, or maybe he was
just able to keep a lot of them, and some
of them got sucked out, but most.

Speaker 4 (40:13):
Of them, maybe all the ship that he wanted to
be erased almost.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
You know what I mean, and focused lest time.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
He kept the good stuff and got rid of the
bad right exactly, which is why maybe he I think
that's why he ends up. His personality changes throughout the
film too, because he's a crazy person when we because
he's a crazy person when we first meet him, winning
a gun at our characters, but then like after that,
he becomes a good person and we like it zar CoV.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
Yeah, I feel like because it's also supposed to swerve
us for a moment and make us think that he
has been taken, and so he's just sort of simple like, oh,
we find obvious thing.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
Yeah, but I think that's maybe the bad memories got
sucked out of him and like the things that are
torturing him are gone.

Speaker 3 (40:57):
So it's a moment of like either pride or possible
guilt when he was like, I'm the reason that like
Earth's going to be destroyed, So I almost like I'm
the smartest guy that was able to basically, you know,
signify that we were intelligent enough to see that you
were fucking with us and.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
That's why you target Or And I think you are
right because now they don't talk about it in this film,
but in the cereals, Ming specifically says two Zarkov like,
because you're the one that figured out my plan and
you're the only one on Earth that figured it out.
That's why I'm attacking your planet. So there is there

(41:34):
is that aspect to it.

Speaker 4 (41:36):
Interesting.

Speaker 3 (41:37):
Then Flesh gets some flying lessons here on how to fly,
and that's why it helps out later. But the scenes
placed funny from.

Speaker 4 (41:44):
Prital flying lessons.

Speaker 3 (41:46):
Oh yeah, I couldn't tell whether they were talking about
actual flying or sex.

Speaker 4 (41:51):
And oh you know what they were talking about.

Speaker 3 (41:53):
They were talking about both, weren't they. I mean because
he was flying. Now you got to shift around in
the cockpit. Yeah, yeah, and grab onto the stick and
then yank it back.

Speaker 4 (42:02):
It's real sensitive, So be gentle. Oh she said that.

Speaker 3 (42:05):
She says she's taken, and then she's explaining why she's
taking them to her secret pleasure moon. Yeah, and I'm like, oh, wow,
that sounds terrible, you know, secret pleasure. No, don't do
death by snoop Snow. There's a lot of and I

(42:29):
got to say, this is where I'm sort of like, man,
I'm seeing the influence of James Gunns on this film.
That inspired his like style and tone. I think for
the Guardians films, Oh sure, the soundtrack, the color saturation,
they're like if there's there's moments and Guardians like that town,
that planet they go to that's like snowed in with

(42:49):
where you can get like hookers and like robotic women
and stuff, you know, Yonder's and then the Gold Lady
shows up. It just reminds me of like some of
the stuff that's going on here. Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
So I but you're right on that because Sean Gun
is a huge fan of this film, so I'm sure
that he was helped his brother out with with Guardians.

Speaker 3 (43:10):
Yeah, absolutely, but I had noticed. I guess they deviated.
But I was like, man, Princess Princess's Pleasure Moon looks
more a lot like Dagoba, that wasn't it. And that's
where we see ardent Arden cleans house stuff, she escapes,

(43:30):
changes clothes with that like Maiden, the Maiden of Ming.
He's got like them of women or whatever. And he's
a little ray pie like no, just rape rape, right,
you know, just a rapist. He's coming in like the
Woman of the.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
Yes, of course.

Speaker 3 (43:47):
Yeah, I'm glad she got got a weapon.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
Because he conquers these planets and he like he kills
all most of the people on the planet, and then
he takes the woman that he wants to repopulate those planets.
That's that's his goal.

Speaker 3 (44:00):
Mm hmm. Okay. And then you got a bunch of
bald he go te you guys.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
Yeah, that looked like Fu Manchu. Yeah, absolutely, yeah.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
I wonder if that was ever did that did any
of that. The fact that he could have been taken
as like an Asian villain sort of come into question
when this movie came out.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
I know, I think that was because that's the way
he looks in the comments. Yeah, yeah, I I think
it was just they wanted to I don't know why.
Maybe it was the I mean it was before World
War Two, so I don't know if that was Alex
Raymond's vision to make him look Asian.

Speaker 3 (44:37):
I don't know, there was an Asian stigmatism.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
And he may have been a fan of the Fu
Manchu villain just wanted to create a villain that looked
like that version of it. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
Yeah, I mean I like our being here. I like
his look, so I think he carries it really well.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
I was just does a great job with it. With
the character too.

Speaker 3 (44:58):
It just it looks great costuming too. Always looks a
little better than everybody else is in the room.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
Just just a little bit, yeah, yeah, just a little bit.

Speaker 3 (45:08):
But yeah, we find out here is Zarkov beat the
machine and he retained most of his knowledge, and then
we get Robin Hood and his merry men in the Forest.

Speaker 4 (45:15):
Of deg Yeah.

Speaker 3 (45:17):
Yeah, there, get up when they're there, but it's, uh,
they have this ritual and I love this moment where
or is like I love in initiations. Yeah, and I
bet because it's like jacking off during that initiation right
as a freak. They're like and then knocking their wood

(45:40):
against the other wood and she's like, oh I love
this yeah, and then it ends like, oh, yeah, the ritual.

Speaker 4 (45:47):
Was cool though. I really like that concept of like
this like living thump and you gotta like do the
different holes to survive. I thought that I thought that was.

Speaker 3 (45:57):
A stir it up first, right then yeah, a little bit.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
Is there a lot like Dune with like the box the.

Speaker 3 (46:05):
Box thing, so what I mean you put it in there,
and that think's supposed to know whether or not you're
worthy of not being stung. I guess yeah, if you're
not worthy, it's gonna sting you. And it's like this
tree scorpion thingy.

Speaker 4 (46:16):
Yeah look cool cool, definitely a cool thing.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
Yeah. But then yeah, the baron he fucking flips it
on them and basically like hold some hostage and hands
over men's daughter as a trader. Yeah, and she's like tortured,
which was kind of hot. I'm not gonna lie. Yeah,
she was getting whipped.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
There's part of me that thinks that she liked that
just a little bit.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
Yeah, I know, I think she likes it over. I
think that's why they were like, we're gonna really get
the boar worms out on this one, because yeah, nothing,
nothing else is gonna Where are they bore what are
they bore it into? You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
And twice as we know, we also know loves he's
with Aura because like there's that point like where she
walks away, he has her handkerchief, like he's snipping, like, oh.

Speaker 3 (47:08):
My god, dude, and it's like a moment where like
Ming promises him his daughter later like he knows about it.
I'm like, it's so gross. Yeah, yeah, it's actually this moment. Yeah,
he's like promising a relationship with her if he finds out.
And then he's like basically like, well, if I find
out who the trader is, I'm going all in. You know,
he probably knows that it's the daughter, but he's like
all right.

Speaker 4 (47:27):
That was the vibe I got was that Meing had
no ie you already this situation, but that Clitus did.
And so that's why he was kind of like or
no matter who.

Speaker 3 (47:37):
It is, I can do anything I want.

Speaker 4 (47:41):
Yeah, yeah, I can put my gold finger with hmmm.

Speaker 3 (47:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (47:48):
He's just like yeah, man, go for it.

Speaker 3 (47:50):
And he's like I can put them hook them up
to the suck machine. Yeah, yeah somewhere. Yeah. He's a
weird kinky.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
She's a freak dude.

Speaker 3 (48:02):
I did get though. It's so weird though, though I
don't think. And then the Baron and the yeah, the Flash,
they have the pissing contest with Flash has to put
his hand in the thing and do like he's one
of that dude.

Speaker 4 (48:14):
This is after they tried to kill him three different times,
don't dumping him in the swamp, fucking him, getting snatched
up by the the other thing. And then it's like okay,
well now it's it's like because the baron is so
this part, I wasn't too positive about what's going on here,
right because we just talked about how Aurora, Right, she
go Aura, she goes back and she's getting tortured. But

(48:36):
the baron didn't know that that was gonna happen, right,
Like he was trying to keep because she told him like, hey,
take care of Flash, I'm gonna go, and Baron's kind
of fighting against this, right, like, well, he's the crazy,
you know, like everyone's looking for him. This is crazy,
I can't do this, and she's essentially, you know, promises
him some sex for it, right, Yeah, they have a thing, right,

(49:00):
because that's who she's.

Speaker 3 (49:01):
He's actually sweet on her.

Speaker 4 (49:03):
Yeah, and and so and then that's was his way
of ending everything, was like, oh, I got it. I
can kill him and not really kill him, and then
she can't him kill right, and so I don't It
seemed like he didn't really know that she was in
trouble in this situation.

Speaker 3 (49:21):
That's why I guess, Yeah, yeah, you're right, because he
does care about it, but I don't know. I kind
of looked at him, looked back up, and next thing
I know, she's being tortured and yeah, right, yeah, what
his name's in the crazy because what happened?

Speaker 2 (49:33):
Yeah, yeah, it's because Clitus already kind of knew what
she was up to. Yeah, but uh, like I said,
everyone else is kind of not really sure where her
loyalties lie, but Clitus knows because he has been observing
her and kind of like behind the scenes, and he's
he's a pervert. So he's kind of like, you know,

(49:54):
he's probably watching her undressed and doing all sorts of
crazy ship they go free.

Speaker 3 (50:00):
I mean, dude, you know why because ours fucked everybody
except clitis. So he's she's He's like, yo, why the fuck?
Why not me? You know what I mean? Like, what
the fuck?

Speaker 2 (50:10):
You know?

Speaker 3 (50:10):
Guy was a regular old Claias uncle Klaitas over.

Speaker 4 (50:14):
Trying trying to be that thing.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
It's like some sort of weird like murking or you know,
metal penis or something. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (50:23):
I don't know. Maybe you have to go. You gotta
go under his uh, his garbing. It's just it's like
when he when he takes his pants off, it's like
the briefcase that opens in pulp fiction.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
He just.

Speaker 1 (50:34):
I love gold.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
Are we happy?

Speaker 1 (50:38):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (50:39):
We happy? Yeah? So yeah. Flash Out smarts him with
the tree frog thing and he pretends like he's been
a tree scorpions but he wasn't. And he escapes the
boar uh and then he saved. He well, he falls
into the bog and he this weird monster thing grabs him.

Speaker 4 (50:55):
Cool.

Speaker 3 (50:55):
Look, but I don't understand something was stabbing itself. Really,
It's almost like like.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
The giant the giant rats from Princess Brian that's what
you make and the quick We also had the quicksand
thing that happened.

Speaker 3 (51:09):
Too, yeah, which we have in that movie as well
as the never Ending Story. But yeah, he's in. He's
saved by Massa Yota, I mean the baron. Uh, the
Baron saves him and then the Hawkmen are actually there
to save him because the Baron was about to kill
him right there.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
Yep, yeah, he was. But that's where because we have
uh the doctor doctors Zarkov, and we have Dale who
have escaped from Emperor Ming's fortress and they went to
the Hawkman and that's where it's like we have Golden's alive,

(51:49):
you know, and that's where they end up going to
Arborea and essentially kidnapping Barn and splash bringing them back
to the cloud sitting. Oh well, now I'm going to
give everybody up and it'll yeahul of Death on the
death battle on the Spike Twister.

Speaker 3 (52:10):
Yeah, it was pretty It's kind of cool, cool, cool
set piece, and it pretty practical from what I understand.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
It looked like a yeah, so it was practical. So
the the the spikes were not like they were not sharp,
real spikes, but they used some sort of like rubber
eyes balloons, so they looked really really they wanted Yeah
like that, they looked real, but they were they were
something that would be safe for them to fall on

(52:37):
if like they slipped.

Speaker 3 (52:39):
They're fighting on. I was waiting for a mom and
it was like like Cable Guy, but yeah, that's basically
the fight. They're whipping at each other and they're both
using real like whips. I think with the practical whips
that they've learned to distance themselves properly from one another.
The two actors.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
Yeah, they they had they had whip training. It looked
like a mortal and Sam Jones had wished him.

Speaker 4 (53:03):
That's what I was like, Dude, he's got an upper
cut onto the spikes. Bro, we're getting some kind of
stage fatality going on here.

Speaker 3 (53:08):
Yeah, yeah, what's the spike ga?

Speaker 2 (53:11):
We do get suited?

Speaker 3 (53:12):
Yeah, dude, that that fatality is weird. Uh Yeah, And
he's almost defeated. The spikes come out and he's almost defeated.

Speaker 2 (53:19):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (53:19):
In the battle, Flash remains good though, Like even in defeat,
he's like, you must promise me to in my desk,
you know, still get together with Haulkman and like rebel
against ming. Yeah, and he keeps saying that it's cheesy,
but it's like, you know, that is the motto though,
It's like he's the guy, like he's trying to tell Youboddy,
like guys.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
But that's whoa, that's who Flash Gordon is. It's he.
But I don't I don't see it as super cheesy
in the fact that because that he has always been
that guy, I guess.

Speaker 3 (53:47):
But we don't know that. We don't know that guy
sitting in his car waiting for a plane and then
he gets right and then the only stuff about Flash
that we know is what Flash tells us. I'm the
quarterback from the Jets, you know what I mean? Yeah,
seeing his actions, Yeah, he's a he's you know, he's
the blonde guy. He's the blonde white guy. He's the
all Americans. We get it, that's right, all America quarterback.

(54:07):
But yeah, but still, I mean it works for the role.
I'd like, you know, like, yeah, he does this cheesy
like you gotta you gotta work together no matter what.
But I think it does kind of get into the
Baron said that even in you know this guy, I
have this guy defeated and he's still trying to teach
me something to improve my life after his own death.
We're looking out for us, I don't know. And that's

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when Cleatan shows up and Flash tosses him onto the
spike platform, which I thought was pretty cool because him
and the Baron kind of team up on grabbing him
and he does like a football.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
Because it was cool.

Speaker 4 (54:38):
There's also a situation in that fight where is he
dead right and Baron is Baron is hanging off the
edge and Flash saves Baron.

Speaker 3 (54:46):
Oh yeah, that's what turns the whole thing.

Speaker 4 (54:48):
Yeah, And so that's what really turns Baron all the
way around, I think, because Baron is like falling into
what it was, it called eternity or infinity or something.
It was something. But he comes over and he's as
to him, He's like, take my hand, man. He fucking
pulls him up, rips him up right, And then that's
when Baron is like, oh shit, okay.

Speaker 3 (55:07):
This dude is about it, right, yeah, no matter what,
right and then yeah, and Clitus gets tossed.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (55:17):
So now these guys are basically like they're on the
same squad, right, not the Hawk guys. Guy yeah, I
after what's his name's death, But yeah, he gets tossed
onto the fucking spikes and kind of like, oh oh,
I got hit on the spikes and he's like next thing,
you know, you just see his eyeballs and his like
toll like liquifile a little bit, and it's so weird.

(55:38):
It's cool. I like, I dig it, but it looks good.
It's a bit of gnarly gore that you don't anticipate
in this film. And there's another moment later the lady
she like melts also yep, it's a oil yeah, because
she's evil rob right. I'm very curious on the insight
when we get to the end, who do we think
at the end grabbing that ring?

Speaker 2 (55:59):
But it's very possible that that another uh and survived
because that's also what is kind of left up the
speculation that Maine survives at the end of the Cereal.

Speaker 3 (56:13):
Yeah, what if it was his daughter that grabbed the
ring because she's still loyal at some point because it's
her dad. Yeah, yeah, I mean we jump ahead there,
but that's just a fucking little stinger that we never
got anything for.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
But I'll talk about that. I'll talk about that at
the end.

Speaker 3 (56:29):
But yeah, yeah, she's mad at Flash because he never
beat that thing down, chase him throughout the galaxy, just
throwing it at him. She's gotta she's gotta beef, come
get this. You got a beef for some beef.

Speaker 2 (56:42):
DP actually with him and Barren.

Speaker 3 (56:44):
Oh my god, you had to go there, didn't she jesu.
Just we're all being like euphemism beating around the bush
and you just had to dive right in.

Speaker 4 (56:54):
But you don't got to hand the head nail on
the head with the hand.

Speaker 3 (56:57):
Yeah, there's another euphemism for secon. But he's gonna go, Oh,
you mean did penetration?

Speaker 4 (57:05):
Oh raw, Jesus.

Speaker 3 (57:09):
I mean this movie handles all that stuff pretty well.
There's a lot of sexual stuff going on, oh for
sure at some time and somehow this movie is still
gateway to me. I think you could still show this
to the kids.

Speaker 4 (57:18):
Well, that's what I was gonna say. I watched this
with my niece, Like I was over at my uh
and my sister in law's house. Right, We're with my
nieces and and uh my wife was with us, and
we watched it all together. And there was definitely a
couple of scenes where I was just like, oh shit,
U Alexandre, well your eyes b Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
It's uh, there's someth like very questionable stuff, but at
the same time, it's like it is kind of like
cartoonish and.

Speaker 4 (57:44):
It's a very very borderline like like much like we
talk about, like we were talking about earlier, like the
cheesy factor, how it really rides that line tight. I
think it does the same thing with a lot of
the sexual stuff. Yeah, where it's like you're you're just
like you're riding that line.

Speaker 3 (57:58):
Where you're like, yeah, I could see that too, because
I mean there's some scantily clad women and there's some
definitely objectifying of them, and you know, the males have
this macho bravado.

Speaker 2 (58:12):
So you know, men and women are objectified in this
film for sure.

Speaker 3 (58:16):
And then there's just the s and m part that's
just weird wild, that's what it's slipped in there, whereas
like I don't even know it was that in the cereals.
This movie just kind of like we need some more.

Speaker 4 (58:27):
We got to sell it a little bit.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
Boys that the Italian aspect of this, like the Italian
filmmaking aspect.

Speaker 3 (58:33):
And when we do get the black gloves Giallow at
the end of the glove Yeah. Yeah, the hawkman run here,
which is upsetting, but they're there. I was really looking
at their design though here, like they're fucking costuming just
looks awesome at all the feathers. Yeah cool. Fuck as
ridiculous as it might have seemed to be, Like I'm

(58:55):
an eagle guy, like fucking he The flying is where
it looks stiffest because they're all like a a line,
you know what I mean, like being pulled up. But
when they're actually just out and about like it fits good.
It looks cool. It looks practical, almost like I could
see them. I believe these guys being these eagles.

Speaker 2 (59:08):
Yeah, like I said, they're all practical wings that they
had to sit around for hours getting put on, and
they would take a break for lunch, and then these
guys were still hanging up on the lines like hey,
what about us.

Speaker 3 (59:23):
Yeah, that's when it looks the cheesiest, when they're all
coming in like for battle and they're sort of just
like dive dive die. Yeah, Like I get it, though,
it's cool still, like as a kid I was. As
a kid, I'm like, yeah, this is fucking Nope. You know,
this is like Clash the Titans ere for me, like
when I'm watching that as a kid. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

(59:43):
So this was like the opposite of that though, that
was fantasy, and then this was like fantasy like sci
fi of the same nature. Though that got grandiose. I
knew it was fake, but I knew, but there was
a realness to it too that still sucked me in somehow,
you know. Yeah, but I noticed as an adult there's
a lot like light plot though in this movie. There's
not really much going on besides just like, hey, we

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gotta fucking stop maing running around. Hey we're over here,
We're we're in dagoball. Now we're over here. But there's
some fun moments, like we said the tree stuff and
h it's set.

Speaker 4 (01:00:15):
Some of my favorite parts of the film is it
sets up the.

Speaker 3 (01:00:18):
World a little bit, like there's some world building for sure.
There's a lot left on the table. I wish we
could have delved into. The movie is a little long, though,
because there's a lot like at the end, when we
get to an end, it's like, oh shit, I wonder
what happens later because he doesn't go home right, you know,
maybe we save Earth, but we don't know. We don't
go back there. We're gonna make a life here maybe
and maybe the doctor will smarten up enough one day

(01:00:39):
to find it a way home. But for now, we're
gonna make it work here. So on Pleasure Moon three
or whatever the fuck it is.

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
But I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:00:47):
It's sort of interesting because there is a world building here.
There is, like I said, there's an economy there was,
like there's a setup history going on. Yeah, Maing came
from somewhere, like so there's like, shit, I don't know,
there's some interesting stuff going here. We just don't really
there's like a don't peak behind the curtain sort of
nature to the film.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
Yeah, but yeah, like what we have after Flash and
Ming get they have a confrontation on the cloud whatever
the Hawkman city, and he is offered like, well, i'll
I will save Earth and you'll leave.

Speaker 3 (01:01:18):
He's offered k and then his own truck right outside right, Yeah,
it says.

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
Ming, Yeah, Ming, that's pretty much what it is. And
he refuses, uh, and so Ming ends up blowing up
the planet and like Luke Skywalker just like floats down.
The only thing would have been like I'm your father.

Speaker 3 (01:01:44):
You know, it's just thought to be dead again too.
It's like several times in this film where he's thought
to be dead multiple times.

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:01:53):
Dead.

Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
So that goes back to the cereal as well as
the commercials that were sette next week, does Flash survive?
Yeah next week?

Speaker 3 (01:02:04):
Yeah, for sure. There's a lot of that. Then they
pay a lot Oh mysh, there's a good reverence.

Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:02:11):
They really enjoyed the subject matter that they were basing
this on.

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
I know everyone had a great it was a very
tough filming set, but at the same time, they really
enjoyed it, because all the actors that are still alive
really enjoyed it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:26):
I wonder if they knew that they were filming something
that was going to be like pop culture, you know,
an icon.

Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
I doubt it they I don't know if they knew
that it was.

Speaker 3 (01:02:35):
There's a lot of stuff like this at this time
coming out, you know, so it's hard to tell what
was gonna hit. It all sounded weird, you know, star
Wars this fucking totally.

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
They weren't. They didn't really care like how it uh
bair box office wise, but they had fun doing it
and they enjoyed the project and they've embraced it, so,
I mean because Sam Jones still goes to cons Ass
Flash and like people are just like, holy shit, splashboard nice.

Speaker 3 (01:03:03):
Yeah, And I do like this moment too with the
Hawkman where he regrets not helping him and that one
of his hawk guys sort of gives him ship like
we should have fucking done something and that's not what
we're about, you know, and he's sort of like, what
would you want me to do? You know if he
was still alive, I probably would help him out now,
and then all of a sudden, you hear somebody's help

(01:03:26):
right now. Yeah, and then he's sort of like, oh,
should I guess I got a fucking you know, act
up or shut up. I just said i'd help him
if he was still alive. So I like that moment.

Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
And he rides that like Scooter from off the planet.

Speaker 3 (01:03:42):
That thing is, he's skeating along on that thing, running
out of hopes and dreams.

Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
Bro.

Speaker 4 (01:03:49):
I was watching it with my with my wife, right
and it was funny because yeah, yeah, just like like
is that a treadmill? It's hilarious.

Speaker 3 (01:04:04):
He's just like leaning on it.

Speaker 4 (01:04:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:04:07):
I think I saw her hanger and like a blast someone.
Oh god, dude, it makes sense because after this Dale
and Aura I have a pillow fight.

Speaker 4 (01:04:19):
Yeah, oh my god.

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:04:23):
And then she shows she shows her humanity by crying
Aura yep, because she asked earlier about the tears and
they said that's a weakness of humans, stay weak sometimes
or whatever, which is interesting too that if alien might
view us that way, you know, and we view ourselves
sometimes as like crying is a weakness, you know, for sure,
it's also what makes us different. I like the what's

(01:04:45):
her name? Dale sort of just sucked up. She's sort
of like, what makes us better than you? Yeah, you're
fucking trash, your fucking horror.

Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
Yeah. And she's like, Suarry knows that that girl's a horror.

Speaker 3 (01:05:00):
No. That communication part was funny when he's like communicating
through his mind.

Speaker 4 (01:05:03):
Oh yeah, and.

Speaker 3 (01:05:10):
I missed that. What is that again?

Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
Forget it?

Speaker 3 (01:05:13):
Oh? And she's like trying to upstage or she's like, uh, oh,
they're gonna poison his biagra. I wrote like this, my
dad always takes a power potion before making love. Like,
why the fuck do you even know that? Because you're
all right, that's right.

Speaker 2 (01:05:27):
No, So here's the question. Did Emperor Ming and Princess
Aura fuck already? Like you know if they have some
uh some incest going on.

Speaker 3 (01:05:35):
I don't know, man, because when she asks like, hey,
I want Clash Gordon for myself, you know what she
wants them for for sure? Ming sort of like, yeah, okay,
I'll think about a baby. I'll see if you can
get that pony, and then somehow fuck your pony.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:05:50):
Uh yeah, there's also at this moment, I like the
movie kind of sets up this one moment that sets
up the whole like flourish. It's been playing throughout the
movie a little bit, and then it's when Dale's lost
and it seems like no one can possibly savor and
then you just plush, you get the big one that
starts kicking in.

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:06:11):
The theme is badass. Every time it popped up, and
then we was like, oh this shit is hard.

Speaker 3 (01:06:16):
Bro, wait you wanted more of it and then it
goes away and you're like, oh damn it. Yeah that
was not the time. It reminded me a little bit
of the high Noon that drumming that would play yeah yeah, no, no,
no thinking about it, but yeah, I see I remember
this in my mind, I'm thinking, man, the Queen's all
over this thing, just like Highlander, but they're not really
that much. It's really just a flash theme. It does hit,

(01:06:38):
and they use it throughout the entire film. It's like
the build up of it at this moment, because it's
like ramping up as we get more and more of
our and our guys starting to do more of his ship,
his thing. You know, he's being attacked by the Imperial
ship or whatever, and there they're coming through the clouds,
and but it's a trap that he's set with the
he Now he's got the backing of Boltan and his men,

(01:07:00):
the hawkmen, right, and they have this cool memor where
he's sitting on the treadmill and you know, hanging out
and that that Imperial ship that like turns to gun
on them.

Speaker 4 (01:07:09):
I like it.

Speaker 3 (01:07:09):
You can see it's all fake, but it doesn't matter.
That you get the Hawk guys in the background on
the backdrop and this cool like ship, like pointy space ship,
like straight out of like you know, sci fi magazine, right,
And I just love it. It's like we're gonna focus
on him and we're going after him. He's in the
clouds and they go into like that red smoke and
it's all just a fucking smoke screen. Yeah, literally, and

(01:07:31):
then all the night the cloud.

Speaker 4 (01:07:33):
I thought that was cool. They're like, oh, like, well
send the they like electrocuted the cloud or some shit, right,
and they're like, oh, he's not coming, like all right,
well let's go. And that sets up the ambush for
the for the Hawk.

Speaker 3 (01:07:44):
Yeah, they're trying to fucking flush him out by electric
feeding the cloud for sure. Yeah, and he's uh did
the Hawk bedal? Like you finally get to see them
in there like element You're like, okay, cool, like do
your thing. They remind me of the Hawkman from DC.
Yeah totally remember yeah when I was a kid and
they all attack. Finally, what do you guys think of

(01:08:05):
like these slower like budgeted battles here that they like
Do they still look cool to you? I mean, I
know this is like an UPREDS four K copy, and
it does look beautiful. There's like a mix of set
effects and the Hawkman flying like men on a line
like that's where it looks the silliest. But I think
it works mostly.

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
I think elevated. Yeah, I think this is an elevated
version of the Cereal, which is a very very very
low budget thing. It does look cheesy and ridiculous, but
that's that's part of the charm of it. I guess
the same for me.

Speaker 3 (01:08:40):
It's like moments when the guys are flying in and
they land and then then there's like combat when they're landing,
and I'm like, that's just badass. And then they'll see
like a guy come by, like in the corner, and
you'll say, like, and he's flying by, you can just
tell he's in a straight line right, like being pulled.

Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
Yeah. I was watching this with with one of my
friends and we were having some beers and just laughing
our We had a great time with it. Yeah, we had.

Speaker 3 (01:09:05):
It's not too serious.

Speaker 4 (01:09:06):
I was waiting for him to fly as smooth as
they did at the end spelling out all those words.
I was like, what was all that flying?

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
Dude?

Speaker 4 (01:09:12):
For real?

Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
Bro? They did?

Speaker 3 (01:09:14):
They did spell out some words. D Uh, they say
they assault the ship. I like this little moment too, though,
like the arming of the of the ship and trying
to get it to work, and then uh, Flash kind
of shows up to help out last minute with that
one dude with the bomb. It's a fun scene, pretty harrowing,
I think if you're especially if you're a younger viewer.

Speaker 4 (01:09:36):
I think we uh, well, we haven't talked about yet
too is in in this meantime. I'm sorry, maybe we
haven't got there. But the other what what was her
name again? Rob the chick we keep talking about, the
one that was like the general to the general. So
she is, she's communicating with the ship simultaneously, right, and

(01:09:57):
there's like some things going on where she's like, are
they flying in the correct position? Right? So like she
she she's kind of aware at this point that they've
lost the ship, right, Like they're going back and forth there.
And I thought that that was cool, Like it was
just that thought process of because it would have been
too easy, right to have them be like, oh, we
got the ship and we just we go in and

(01:10:18):
we can blow the ship up now. But I really
liked that they kind of threw that, like there was
like almost plans in place to catch this kind of
shit where she's like, well, if they're not flying in
the fucking correct defensive patterns and we know it's all
guns fucking blast.

Speaker 3 (01:10:31):
Away, yeah, because it's like they have a pattern that
they put out each day or whatever, like having a
different pass code, you know, and they're using an older one, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:10:39):
Exactly, so they're not that shot of the fucking of
the lasers going out with the like laser shield up.

Speaker 3 (01:10:47):
I thought that shot was bad ass, like all the
all the gold and ship.

Speaker 2 (01:10:51):
Yeah yeah, I thought that looks I loved it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:54):
It's so like I like that it's like not descriptive
of like exactly where the lasers are coming from, just
like fire everything, and you see tons of ship flying away.

Speaker 2 (01:11:03):
And you've got that great Queen soundtrack playing in the
background to fuck Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:11:07):
Yeah, we're talking about that. It's just a swell, Like
there's that moment earlier when Jale's like, well, there's like
nobody here to save me, you know, like nobody could
possibly save me. And then we've really started getting that
flash kicking in. We're getting a dund yeah, really starting
to drill it in, which goes with the action he
stuff really well. And uh, that's where Baron the Baron

(01:11:30):
wants Darkov to tell him more about Houdini when they're
locked away. I guess they were. That was interesting. That
was funny, A little funny bit of dialogue, and the
Princess and the Prince have a moment too where they
where they get out and they're talking about they've changed
the password or something like that or I think, and
Baron's like, I've I've changed, you know. He's trying to

(01:11:51):
tell him, like tell Ura, like you know, I've changed
as well, and then or was like, oh, yeah, I've
changed as well also m hm. And they're like going
back and forth, and then the doctor does something smart
and he's sort of like I haven't changed at all,
like yeah, and I.

Speaker 4 (01:12:04):
Love to so smart along those same lines Burgers at
the end, he's like he's like oh, he goes in
for the kiss and she pulls away and he's like
you haven't changed.

Speaker 3 (01:12:14):
Yeah, yep. She's like not now because he proposes, right.

Speaker 4 (01:12:20):
He's like they were at the beginning of the movie.
They talk about like he was supposed to be like
that was an arranged marriage set up between those two.

Speaker 3 (01:12:27):
Right, But I think there's something there too, Yeah, like
she could see herself settling down maybe with him, or
at least him and six other guys him.

Speaker 2 (01:12:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:12:37):
I was under the impression that Meing was kind of
giving his daughter away to Baron and like when Flash
comes in and all those people are in there in
the very beginning, so I thought that's what was going
on there.

Speaker 3 (01:12:47):
Oh, so everybody there in the beginning, Okay, we're offered.
They were making offerings for the daughter, and.

Speaker 2 (01:12:52):
Also like you know, that's kind of what that was.
But then also Clitus is wanting her to m.

Speaker 3 (01:12:59):
Oh critis is that you clash?

Speaker 2 (01:13:03):
Yeah, that's that's General Cletus. Sorry guys, cus.

Speaker 3 (01:13:09):
Uh yeah, So Flash is gonna ride the ship down.
There's that moment where Hawkman's like, man, we got to
get out now. If we don't get out now, like
you won't be able to get out of the ship
at all. And you know, go with me now, and
he's like, now someone's gonna steer it. He's gonna suicide,
vombit or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:13:26):
Well, Flash Gordon survive and.

Speaker 3 (01:13:29):
He does say one life for the millions, right like that. Yeah,
the whole thing of the whole stick that the doctor
said is actually, you know, turns out you know it's real,
and yeah he does believe in it. He's like, fuck it,
I'll be that guy. I'll be the one. And so
I like this moment Manx forces that like fire everything
that they have a flash and the hawkman at that moment,
like he said, and there's this little bit with Boltana

(01:13:50):
like he says, that must have have been some planet
you come from to have men like you and flashes,
like yeah it was. It was all right, you know,
it was a good, good planet, you know, humble. But
because Valtaan's like, man, you're gonna go down with honor,
like he totally resonated.

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
Seems almost respect he respects it.

Speaker 4 (01:14:09):
Well, it seems lost on him, like these people just
there no sense of that honor amongst anybody, and in
anything that we've seen so far, I feel like they.

Speaker 3 (01:14:16):
Had it at one point and they've they've abandoned it
because of the Ming's and yeah, they've lost it. Like
I think that's why that one dude sort of was
like we should have done something like yeah, yeah, yeah,
and we've kind of lost that, Like this is the
depths that we've gone to now under Ming seems to
be a proud people and now we're cowards. But yeah,
he totally But also just to see like you're gonna

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make a sacrifice for this planet and these people that
you don't even know, it's not even just like people
that you know, well except for the few that you're
here with, you know, Zarkov and what's your name, Dale Dale? Yeah,
Dale Arden, not not to be confused with Dale Aiden,
who didn't get the role. Uh yeah. And at this point,

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we're cutting two to thing's wedding which is happening, which
seems a little like, what's the point of the He's
just forcing the wedding just to happen.

Speaker 2 (01:15:07):
Well, she's the she's the bride of the hour.

Speaker 3 (01:15:11):
I mean, well, but it just feels rush like one
extra thing to add on. It's like you got other big,
bigger fish to fry right this moment.

Speaker 2 (01:15:18):
But this is this is what Ming does is that
he will threaten the destruction or conquering of a planet,
and then he will take the female of that planet
for himself, a concubine. That's why his he has this
grand harem of women that from various planets that he's conquered.

Speaker 3 (01:15:41):
He does he's got like a Morton Joe, sort of
a vibe cone.

Speaker 2 (01:15:44):
Yeah, very very much like in a Morton Joe.

Speaker 3 (01:15:47):
What if he's got any breast milk anyway, But yeah,
I do like that saying and the wedding was pretty jazzy.
I do love the the priest at the wedding. I
thought he was pretty hilarious.

Speaker 2 (01:16:03):
Dude, the ring ring, ring ring, come on the ring.

Speaker 3 (01:16:07):
Yeah, and the whole like, you're not gonna throw out
his space, right, you promise not to do that?

Speaker 4 (01:16:11):
But he looks at him.

Speaker 3 (01:16:13):
Yeah, okay, well you know until you think you know
it's a good idea. And then so Zarkov and the
baron infiltrate here. That's where what's her name the general
gets killed, she gets shot. He grows fucking like, well,
they go to grab one of those view finders off.
The guy's not realizing that they're all like attached and

(01:16:34):
they're all cybernetic, dude, And once you pull the one,
they all short circuit. Yeah yeah, they all fizzle out.
It's pretty cool. I thought it was painful because the
guy was like, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:16:46):
Well and it seemed like he just pulled the one
and it like ruined the entire fucking.

Speaker 3 (01:16:51):
Yeah, like the link.

Speaker 2 (01:16:53):
Yeah. Remember, it was like it was a circuit network
or something.

Speaker 3 (01:16:57):
Remember the dark Aster and Guardians, the dude that are
controlling it, they're like all like all together controlling this thing.
This yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, this three D thing in
space or whatever it was. Yeah, remind me of that
a little bit. But yeah, they and she goes to
fight back, and she like shoots fire at them or

(01:17:17):
what if some magic space magic or and then yeah,
shoot her and she fucking turns into an oil slick.

Speaker 2 (01:17:24):
So weird.

Speaker 3 (01:17:24):
So with that is because she's dark.

Speaker 2 (01:17:26):
It's such a weird choice.

Speaker 3 (01:17:28):
Yeah. Well then we also got what's his name? And
then the only people that die like this, right, and
then we got what's his name? Who like his eyeballs
and yeah, yeah Clay.

Speaker 2 (01:17:39):
He ends up like melting and like his eyeballs pop
out of his tongue.

Speaker 3 (01:17:45):
Even their deaths are like freaking like you know, yeah yeah,
and then flashes coming in. He's flying the ship in
suicide run queen music starts rocking out and ming. He
finally like we see his flash in the background. Yeah,
and he's coming in to interrupt the wedding last minute

(01:18:06):
and he crash lands takes him out, Yeah, crash lands,
and you get fucking man gets impaled. There's a pretty
pretty cool little fucking gig.

Speaker 4 (01:18:15):
I thought I thought it looked good. Well, because here's
the thing, right, we got like we we we didn't
talk about like they we needed to get the laser
wall down so the ship could get in, right, And
so that's why the one with the circuitry that we
talked about, the things being removed, that's what gets the
wall essentially down, the very death star in now, yeah,
very very destined door.

Speaker 3 (01:18:36):
Yeah, get the fucking get the shields down so that now,
now let's get the hot and and.

Speaker 4 (01:18:45):
So that that's uh, because that's Barren and Zarkov, right,
they get that. Yeah, because Flash is still in the
ship and so now the now, the now, the shields
are down, and then that's when we get the crash through.
And because audience can't even see the ship coming before, right,
we have everybody the true it's empty, and then all

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of a sudden it drops down and there's kind of
like this like, oh ship, what the and now we
can see it and then it.

Speaker 3 (01:19:10):
Just yeah, he's coming. Yeah, and then the fucking Mange
just gets like ran through right by the end of it. Yeah,
I like that, but he's not dead yet. He pulls
himself off and he turns its own magic on himself
and he just like disappears. Yeah, I feel like into
the ring.

Speaker 2 (01:19:28):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (01:19:28):
Interesting, that's why the ring falls.

Speaker 4 (01:19:31):
Something like that.

Speaker 3 (01:19:32):
Yeah, a pocket dimension. It's like a D and D thing.
He's got like a bag of holding, so he just
like jumped into the bag.

Speaker 2 (01:19:38):
But he disappeared into his own prison wall if you will.

Speaker 3 (01:19:41):
Yeah, exactly, Yep, he boothed himself out of existence. But yeah,
it's a little unceremonious because it's sort of like, Okay,
I guess they had plans for a sequel or the
purpose because of the nature of you know, strip.

Speaker 2 (01:20:02):
There there were there were actually two sequels that were
uh were planned for this.

Speaker 3 (01:20:07):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:20:08):
Like I said, the film was successful. It was successful
in Europe, not here in the US. And while it
did become like a cult film, like you know that
a lot of people love, like Alex Ross is a
huge fan of it. Robert Rodriguez loves this film. But
I think because a lot of it the financially, it
didn't quite work here in the US. And definitely because

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of the strife between Sam Jones and Dino di Laurentis
that killed all plans of the other two sequels that
they were gonna do. Yeah, that makes sense, and you know,
we uh, we have not had a film version of
Blash Gordon. Since there has been some animated series, the
comic has continued to go along, but no one has

(01:20:54):
touched Flash Gordon as a film since Lash.

Speaker 3 (01:20:59):
They uh, they celebrate and Hawkeye spells, the Hawkman spell Thanks,
Flash in the Sky Yep. The celebration and the ceremonial
ship is it's very reminiscent of like the end of
Star Wars, sort of like the awards ceremony here. Yeah, yeah,
and Flashdale and Zarkov. We said they'll have to stay

(01:21:20):
here for now till Zarkov can maybe figure out a
way for them to get home. But there's going to
be more adventures here. And Mango Mango, Mango Mango. I
don't know what time Mongo standard time it was there,
Mango meantime. Yeah, we see the black glove. It grabs
Ming's ring. You get that laugh, right, yeah, yeah, which

(01:21:43):
I don't think means the person that picked it up
necessarily laughed that way. It's just supposed to mean, like, hey,
this isn't the last you've seen of Ming. I don't
know that the hand necessarily is Ming's own hand. No,
I think it's a collaborator gonna bring Ming back.

Speaker 2 (01:21:58):
Well. I also I also wonder maybe it's not necessarily
someone that was nebarious that is knowing what the ring is,
but Ming maybe exists inside the dimension in that ring,
and he is laughing knowing that he will the.

Speaker 3 (01:22:12):
Black glove point the black glove alludes to. Yeah, I
think it's evil intent.

Speaker 4 (01:22:17):
Yeah, I think so too.

Speaker 3 (01:22:18):
Otherwise you could just put a hand.

Speaker 2 (01:22:20):
But I know we're not. We're we a scene.

Speaker 3 (01:22:24):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:22:26):
We haven't seen all the characters in the Flash Gordon
franchise either, because we didn't get like the lionman.

Speaker 3 (01:22:33):
We didn't. I wish there was a lizard person, I know. Yeah,
and it just looks like it just look like a
fucking pole mile of fucking dish glove. Yeah, trying to
get the ring, but you know how you're all clumsy
when you get those fucking rubber gloves on. You can't
pick things up.

Speaker 4 (01:22:53):
Damn lizards.

Speaker 2 (01:22:55):
No, this film was fun, man, It's yeah. I kind
of wish that there was more, but at the same time,
I'm happy.

Speaker 4 (01:23:01):
With what we have.

Speaker 3 (01:23:03):
Yeah, yeah, you know, we just we have.

Speaker 2 (01:23:05):
Blash Gordon really hasn't been touched film wise since nineteen
eighty but you know, the comics still remains strong. This
has been a cult hit that people still go to
cons about. They they love Sam Jones, they love the film.
Alex Ross, like I said I said earlier, this is

(01:23:27):
his favorite film. He really loves this film. And to
be honest, I think if there was going to be
a remake or what or I think that Alex Ross
should have some sort of say in how the film
goes because he he definitely knows the lore and loves
the comics.

Speaker 4 (01:23:46):
I always thought he was a writer or an artist.
Is he a writer?

Speaker 2 (01:23:50):
So he does have a writing team, but like it's
like it's he does the artwork. He has kind of
a vision and writers. Yeah. Uh, but he does know
his stuff. He's not he just he doesn't necessarily right,
but he does know his stuff. And this is the
this is the the flash Gordon is what made him

(01:24:13):
a comic book artist. This is why he does what
he does is because of this and I you know,
this is our third comic book film, and these are
we've done very alternative.

Speaker 3 (01:24:25):
Actually yeah, that's right.

Speaker 2 (01:24:29):
Wrote the tradition, That's right, the tradition.

Speaker 3 (01:24:32):
Yeah, the crow, the crow.

Speaker 2 (01:24:35):
The crow. So so yeah, we've done uh, like five
of them now, and it's.

Speaker 3 (01:24:40):
The Warriors was fashioned in itself to be.

Speaker 2 (01:24:43):
That is, that's like a comic book. And I I
like this stuff. I like. I like these alternative comic
stuff like especially Yeah, I like Buck Rogers, I like
Flash Gordon, I like The Phantom and all that. I'd
like that stuff and I would love I would love
to see more of that. And I hope maybe eventually,

(01:25:06):
maybe we'll see a blash if you're tired of like
DC and I can see you and all that stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:25:11):
I got one for you guys. I got The Rocketeer
on my list of movies. Yeah, yeah, I think you
guys would take that.

Speaker 4 (01:25:20):
Yeah, I've never seen it. I would definitely be Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:25:22):
Yeah, it's another childhood one for me.

Speaker 2 (01:25:25):
Isn't Timothy Dalton in that too?

Speaker 3 (01:25:27):
I think he is. Yeah, he plays I think he
plays how it hughes. But I'm not positive. Oh, ship
could be wrong. I could be wrong, but but yeah,
I like this stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:25:37):
I want to see more of this stuff that's, you know,
from outside the zeitgey is a little bit different, something
that people can kind of sink their teeth into.

Speaker 3 (01:25:48):
M all right, Uh, I guess I'll go first. For us,
I'll break down our rating system. We have a scale.
It's like a one through five. Basically the number one
being instant classic, next is by it rent it the
mid tier but not for mid movies, and watch the
trailer and then the never ever watch this shit. So

(01:26:11):
just off top of the list. Some pros for this film.
I for a dated film, I think the visuals hold
up and remain gorgeously vivid and like fantastical. I know
this is like four K scan look great on my
TV too, Just the sets all pop, the color of saturation.
I really like the look of it. It's shot on film,
all of it handmade. I just love the look, like

(01:26:34):
you can see that meticulous work that was put into this.
Some really cool practical effects like the creatures too. I
thought h Clitus's face when he dies I thought was
cool just to set. Like some of the designs, like
Clytus himself was sort of scary in a way like
if you were young, it's you know, and that S
and M don't torture me or touch my butthole kind

(01:26:55):
of way, like without consent, Like yeah, he's just weird.
I do love the comic book vibe. The serial nature
vibe of the film that's going for it. I really
dig like the episodic nature to the structure of this
one of this film. You sometimes don't want that in
a movie, but for this movie that works because that's
like you're saying, and it was based on a serial.

(01:27:16):
Plus there's a lot of cues into that, more so
than I even picked up on that rob You've enlightened
us on, So that even changed my opinion a little
bit some of the scenes where I was like, okay, okay,
I get more what they were going for now with
that bit of dialogue or because there is like not
all the dialogue hits one hundred percent, but for the
most part, you know, it works. I like our characters.
Like I said, the set design of costuming, oh pop.

(01:27:38):
Like the film just never once looks boring at all.
It's just fun to look. Ever, if you like seventies
eighties is error like player like this has got it
like the seventies eighties player in this is just the
nicest touch. I think it helps kind of actually it
makes it helps the film feel like out of any

(01:27:59):
particular genera because it's it's based in an old property,
so it's stylizing that mixed in with like seventies as
error sort of fashions and things going on there too.
So I just think it has this sort of like timeless,
no particular generation feel to it, making it I think
maybe good Gateway film too, for the younger crowd, no

(01:28:20):
matter what where you're from. I think if you just
like sci fi, like I don't know the ridiculousness of it,
I really enjoyed, Like I know, it knows what it is,
it leans into it, and the tropes as well, you
know what I mean. It toes that line, John, You've
mentioned it a couple of times. I like the whole
Nazi regime satanic cult vibes to Ming and his people.

(01:28:41):
I think it's like on the nose, but not on
the nose, you know what I mean A little bit.
It's it's it's descript but not a descript and I
kind of just like this sort of space vibe to
it too, like you know space Nazis. I like the
sense of space too, and it's funky nature in this.
There's funky parts to it. You know, this is funky space.
This is fun space, not serious you're gonna die, but

(01:29:02):
from a xenomorph space. It's different here. This is very
fun sci fi. The soundtrack is great, but it's not
as extensive as I thought it was. I really thought
Queen was like all over this. It's really just that
one song, the one Queen thing.

Speaker 2 (01:29:16):
Yeah. Well, I mean because Queen worked alongside the composer,
and so while they're not their voice is not as
prevalent in the songs outside of the theme song. They
did the they did a lot of the like rock
stuff like they were playing, Yeah, they were playing the score,

(01:29:37):
that rock.

Speaker 3 (01:29:37):
Score that's kicking in like d D d D. Yeah,
that's Queen. Yeah no, and then you get the hook
and it carries. It works. Don't get me wrong, I'm
not ridiculing the sat score at all. I'm almost like, hey,
give me some more of that place, you know, yeah,
where I just wish it was more like because you
get a good bit of them in the Highlander Highlanders soundtrack.

Speaker 2 (01:29:56):
Highlander is definitely a better version of Queen doing it
sound Yeah, so.

Speaker 3 (01:30:02):
I love that. Uh, and you know, there's a nostalgic
factor to this one. It definitely plays takes its way,
I guess a little bit for me, But it's a fun.
It's a fun movie overall. Some cons. You know, the
film's length is a little longer than needed, I think
to tell this story. I don't think you need this long.
You could have tightened up some spots. I didn't need
the merry men in the woods so long, or like

(01:30:24):
I didn't need to know that, or fucked like all
five guys that we met, or like you know what
I mean, like like you could have given any of that,
some of that and smaller doses here and there. I
think tightened up the script. Maybe, I don't know. It's
tough to say.

Speaker 1 (01:30:37):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:30:37):
The scientists are played pretty hammy, I thought in the beginning,
and and comedic, and I just like, I don't know,
I didn't believe much in their character when I first
saw them, and they're just easy, these guys that are
straight up little characters. RK. Kraft does come around, though, Yeah,
but just at first, I was like, one of my
first negative notes is like this kind of didn't I
didn't love this telling about it. But some of the

(01:30:59):
effects don't look as great, Like the lizard people, they
just thoseard people of God awful. I don't know, I'm
guessing maybe that's the point though, because everything else seems
so meticulous and like on purpose. Yeah, so I feeling
like this is just it's an homage to something that
is over our head. We're missing out on the joke.
We don't know that the lizard people in the cereal

(01:31:19):
look this awful too or whatever. I don't know, paying
homage to something.

Speaker 2 (01:31:23):
So I know that.

Speaker 3 (01:31:24):
So they had funny giants anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:31:27):
Yeah, they had giant dragons in like the story, but
like the way that they were used in the Cereals
is essentially they had like miniature sets and they had
iguanas played the dragons, and they were like, yeah, that's
kind of so it is, that's kind of I think
the lizard people replace.

Speaker 3 (01:31:44):
That, m okay. Anyway, the wistend people are still worth
the price of addiction. You see what bro like looking
around with those fucking eyes.

Speaker 2 (01:31:54):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:31:55):
Some of the effects, like I said, desire that the best,
but most of them are pretty cool. They There are
a lot of players involved in this movie. Here a
lot of characters of sorts mashing up together at parts,
and I don't really get time for them to breathe,
Like you don't. The tree people, the hawk Man men,
Ming's inner workings. It's all interesting, but more like don't

(01:32:16):
look behind the curtain, you know what I mean, Like
it's for face value, Flash, but we never you know, ah,
but it's for Flash played for Flash, but we don't
like get to know any of these people that much.
We're just kind of throwing in there. And sometimes that's okay.
Sometimes it falls a little flat. I just don't believe
in Flash and Arden's love story at all either, like

(01:32:36):
they didn't spend that much time together if anything, or
in him. I mean, yeah, okay, I like I get
that she's into him, but the fact that she's like
placing steaks in them, like that's my man. It's like, well,
you guys, didn't even Flash owes nothing to you. You
owe nothing to Flash. If you wanted to fall in
love with Ming or whatever, I wouldn't have fallted you either,
you know what I mean? Like whatever, But I don't know,
it just never felt, like I said, like those other

(01:32:58):
characters fleshed out enough. It's just that's all secondary stuff
to the set dressing and the grandiose, you know, sci
fi of it all. So the film is more style
than substance, like I said, But it's a fun rude,
and the dialogue is not It's not winning any awards,
and it can be a little cheesy at times, but
it does mostly just straddle that fine line. Flashes character,

(01:33:21):
looks the part and plays the part pretty well, but
you never really get to know the man, making him
just like the rest of the film sort of set
dressing in a way. Maybe some of that's because of
the dubbing too, I don't know, but you know, his
character is just like the trophy hero guy. Yeah, you know,

(01:33:41):
and I get it that's what the film is. But
I mean, we have a moment here, I guess to
have this guy resonate a little bit more than just
be this hunky dude, and I just think that maybe,
I know, maybe that's just not what the film's going for.
So can't fault it too much. So with all that said,
I'm giving flash Gordon. I think this is a solid
I think like I would recommend right in this one

(01:34:03):
night and you know, just give it a go. I
could see you going lower. I could see you just
wanting to watch the trailer too. Maybe, but uh, for me,
I think it's a solid ranted you know what about you?

Speaker 2 (01:34:12):
John?

Speaker 4 (01:34:13):
Yeah, So this is one I think I had mentioned
before where this is one that I'm not familiar with,
but was, you know, familiar with the name, had obviously
heard Flash Gordon, right. You know there's references in Ted right,
you know, so it's you, you definitely it's It's been
around and in the air, and I always wanted to
go back and see it. Never got a chance, so uh,

(01:34:36):
to finally get to do it here was was was cool.
I was happy to get into that. I absolutely love
the costumes in this movie. This is I think that's
such a strong part of it. The set and it's
everything is just so vastly different. I think that's what
what makes it stand out so good, is that there's

(01:34:56):
so much and everything looks just hand made and perfect,
perfectly done for each single division that we're coming in
across the characters. There are a shit ton of characters
in this movie, and I really liked that aspect. That
felt like it was cool to get to see this
this world kind of brought out and it's we're seeing

(01:35:18):
the people that live over here and how they live,
and these people over here and what their views are
and how this went down Because this guy showed up
and the whole space aspect, like like space economy of it.
I thought was cool. You get you know, flashing this
girl just kind of thrust into this crazy power struggle
not even a power shop. We just get thrust into

(01:35:39):
this thing where this dictator is essentially came in and
ruined a lot of a lot of things that these
people had going. It's a it's a really interesting story.
I think the action shots were super good, just that
cheesy eighties like we talked about, you know, the seventies
eighties vibe that you get there and how it's just
it it masterfully rides that line of where you're like,

(01:36:04):
is this too cheesy? Like is this are we are
we going over the top here? And uh, it doesn't.
It doesn't. It doesn't ever feel like it like a switch,
like a switch flipped right on. So it's it's I
really like that aspect of it. And the soundtrack. Again,
I'm not a big recognizer of soundtracks, you know, typically

(01:36:25):
when I watch a movie, it's it's usually the last
thing on my mind that I catch. But obviously when
you got a fucking smash heat seeker like flash Man
and it just pops up all the time, I thought
that was I'm also very very good for cons I
think I think in the beginning it's a little bit

(01:36:46):
the zany doctor and the the getting into space and
that that whole part of the story is a little weak, right,
But I mean it's also it is what it's it's
just one of those movies, you know, So the I
think it is kind of hard to see Flash's character,
and it does take some getting used to to hearing
that that dub over like like we talked about earlier,

(01:37:09):
that that is a little bit feels a little bit wonky.
I think once you're about halfway through the movie, it
settles in and everything's fine, right, But and in the
beginning you could just you can definitely tell that something
something feels off there. Other than that, man, I don't
I don't think there's the length that it It could
have been a little bit shorter. I do agree with
Berg on that there there was a couple of parts

(01:37:30):
where you I kind of looked up and was like,
oh shit, all right, we're still going. But it was
it was it was awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:37:37):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:37:37):
I enjoyed the ride. I would give this movie. I'm
in one hundred percent agreeance with Minga Berg. This is
a very solid, rented.

Speaker 3 (01:37:47):
Nice feeling it, feeling it. Okay, what about you there, ROBERTA, Well,
this is a this is a pervy movie. So I'm
figuring you're coming right up.

Speaker 2 (01:37:58):
Instant classic, no No. I think this movie evokes the
spirit of the source material, and despite all the struggles
during the production of the film, it's not too far
away from the silliness and the simpleness of the thirties serials.
And I think Sam Jones has kind of become just
as iconic as Buzzer Krab was in the thirties. And

(01:38:21):
I think the reason why the character resonates so much
with fans is that Flash Gordon is an ordinary man
doing extraordinary things. He doesn't have superpowers. He's thrust into
this terrible situation, and he's just a good person who
wants to make sure that if I had to sacrifice
myself for the rest of Earth, so be it, I'll

(01:38:43):
do it. And I think there's a lot of people
who want to be like that type of person, even
though they're not, and so they get to live through
that with Flash Gordon. You know, if you're looking for
an alternative to DC and Marvel films, I think look
New further than Flash Gordon or films like this. Uh.
You know, one of the problems I think modern audiences

(01:39:05):
will have with this and we we've we've talked about it,
but you know, it's silly. It does have a camp factor,
which I think you know fans uh of that time.
You're coming off of the success of the Batman TV
series with Adam West. A couple of years earlier, Richard

(01:39:25):
Dunner's Superman came out, and this is kind of a
mixture of those two comics into this film, and so
you get to see a little bit of seriousness, seriousness,
you get to see a little bit of the camp
and like you guys talked about, the costumes and the
soundtrack are great. I enjoyed the ship out of this film.

(01:39:48):
I laughed my ass off, and you know, I had
some beers with my friends. We laughed our ass off.
We enjoyed the ship out of this The four K
looks amazing, of this fight all that. I'm gonna come
in just slightly under you guys. I'm gonna just watch
the trailer slash rent it just because I don't know
how this is gonna resonate with modern audiences coming into

(01:40:12):
this for the first time. I personally I bought the film.
I like this. I'm gonna watch it again. I'm going
to introduce it to people to us hold that. Oh yeah,
here we go.

Speaker 3 (01:40:23):
I got it. I got mine, mine's over there.

Speaker 4 (01:40:28):
Show a movie every podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:40:30):
But no, I you know, I just I don't kind
of similarly a vanishing point. I like that film a lot,
but I'm not sure modern audiences are gonna be really
into it. I don't know. I can see that.

Speaker 3 (01:40:46):
I could see it, Slash. You watch the trailer.

Speaker 2 (01:40:51):
Just watched the trailer, Slash rent it.

Speaker 4 (01:40:53):
Yeah, I mean you can be wrong. That's fine.

Speaker 3 (01:40:56):
Yeah, it's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:40:57):
I'm probably wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:40:58):
I'm just give me on the wrong side of history.

Speaker 2 (01:41:01):
I personally like this film. It's but I don't know
if other people are gonna under good.

Speaker 3 (01:41:07):
That's where I said, I said, I'm solid rented, but
I get dip in and being like a watch the trailer.

Speaker 4 (01:41:12):
Of course, of course. But if you want to be
a mind state to go into a film like this,
he got Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:41:18):
I get it exactly. And if you want to be
a rented kind of guy like me and John, you
know a couple of good guys.

Speaker 4 (01:41:24):
It's a different state of money.

Speaker 2 (01:41:25):
Do you want to if you want to be not
perverted like me, go rent it.

Speaker 3 (01:41:30):
Perversion actually deterred you. It's so yeah, it wasn't the
proper type of perversion. Like there's too many privileges in
this movie. There's only room for one purpose. Well, maybe
you're upset because Citis didn't win. You're like I thought
he was lost.

Speaker 2 (01:41:49):
I wanted to see the S and M division wins.

Speaker 3 (01:41:52):
He got out in a He got out in an
escape pod that just oddly looked like a golden butt
plug loading in space. No one can hear you scream
in space. That's right, Flash going into electric Booglar.

Speaker 4 (01:42:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:42:08):
Yeah, anyway, So that's Flash Gordon for you in the books.
What about next week's pick, John, that's yours?

Speaker 4 (01:42:15):
Right, Next week is my pick. We're gonna be watching
a little film called Almost Famous from two thousand and zero.
I'm interested. I can't wait to get into it with
you guys. I think it's gonna be a lot of fun.
It's a rock movie. I don't know if you could
call it a road movie. It's a road a yeah,
it's a road.

Speaker 3 (01:42:34):
It's road as it's a road e movie.

Speaker 4 (01:42:40):
Hey, there we go. I'm bumped. I think I think
you guys are gonna dig it. I'm excited.

Speaker 2 (01:42:46):
Never seen it, so I'm excited to watch it.

Speaker 3 (01:42:49):
Yeah for sure?

Speaker 2 (01:42:50):
All right? Cool?

Speaker 3 (01:42:51):
So yeah, tune in next week where we'll be covering
almost famous from two thousand. In the meantime, if you
wanted to catch more of us, the three of us
do side projects of our own. I run a Cut
Above Horror Review with two other costs, Jacqueline and John,
where we rate and review horror movies each week. You
can find us on all the podcasters, much like cinemigos.

(01:43:12):
You can catch us on Instagram at a cut above
one word dot Horror Underscore review, on x AT Cut
Above Horror, and on Facebook at a Cut Above Horror Review.
Rob What about you? If the listeners wanted to check
you out.

Speaker 2 (01:43:25):
The YouTube, check out Circle of Drugs podcast, me and
my co host Sandy You know wax poetic about a
whole bunch of different things. Tuesday's we do a live
livestream called Nocturnal Transmissions. You can reach us on Instagram,
Circle of Drinks podcast, and x AT podcast CJ or
if you want to reach out to me, personally, I'm
at Robert, Rice.

Speaker 3 (01:43:46):
Nice and John. If the listeners wanted to check you out.

Speaker 4 (01:43:50):
Yeah, I do a little thing called streaming retro video
games over there at Twitch dot tv slash Kinetic on
slot o nslot. Right now, we're in the middle of
Dragon Warrior three. It's a live programming event, so you know,
you can come in, hit the chat room, throw some
dollar bills in the air, hang out, have a good time,
talk shit, do whatever you want to do. Guaranteed to

(01:44:13):
get some kind of interaction, So come on by check
it out. Same thing all socials at Kinetic Underscore Onslot
spelled the same way.

Speaker 2 (01:44:21):
Nice.

Speaker 3 (01:44:22):
If the listeners want to check out more Cinemigos on
social media, you can find us on Instagram at Cinemigos
one word Underscore Podcasts. You can email us at the
Cinemigos podcast at gmail dot com.

Speaker 2 (01:44:35):
You can reach us at x at at Trecinemigos, t
r E, s CI n E and I g os,
or on our letterbox Cinemigos.

Speaker 4 (01:44:45):
Well, don't forget about Facebook. There Rob at Facebook dot com.
Slash Cinemigos. Come on by drop a like, catch an interaction.

Speaker 3 (01:44:54):
We'd love to have you every thousand years. I test
each life system in the universe, it with mysteries, earthquakes,
unpredicted eclipses, strange craters in the wilderness. If these are
taken as natural, I judge that system ignorant, harmless. I
spare it. But if the hand of Ming is recognized
in these events, I judge that system dangerous to us.

(01:45:15):
I call upon the great God Daisan, and for his
greater glory and for our mutual pleasure, I destroy it utterly.
You're saying it's my fault. The Earth is being destroyed precisely, doctor, Hey,

(01:45:37):
you badgin.

Speaker 4 (01:45:38):
We ain't got no budges. We don't need no budges.

Speaker 3 (01:45:41):
I don't have to show you on us thinking budges

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