March 3, 2025 • 48 mins
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Once trapped in addiction and crime, Danny Shannon spent 17 years battling heroin and ice before turning his life around. Now clean for over a decade, he shares his powerful story on The Clink, revealing the struggles of his past, the moment that changed everything, and how his video journaling app Encapsulator is helping others on their own path to recovery. A raw and inspiring conversation about resilience, redemption, and the power of change.
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Speaker 4 (00:53):
Welcome back to the Clink. Fantastic to have you all
back for another episode here today. I tell you what,
I'm actually quietly excited. This guest today has been someone
that I've been communicating with for several years. This man
is doing wonderful things. I'm going to let you hear
his story from his mouth because it is one that
(01:13):
I believe is very worthy, and the contribution to community
that he gives and the skills that he has in
life acquired through his own lived experiences phenomenal. You know,
I really want to take today and let's look at
what it takes when you feel rejected, the haters, the naysayers,
you know, the adversity that you can't do this, or
(01:34):
you you shouldn't be able to do this, or even
just been written off as a statistic today, Denny Shannon,
Welcome to the clink, mate. I couldn't ask for a
better person to be able to explain all that.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
Brother. It's so good to be here, Brendan. We have
had a few crxit. I don't know what happened was
I actually I kind of remember one thing happening. But anyway, mate,
it has been well, it's absolutely pleasure to know you
and to be a part of your show mate, and
those things that you just mentioned, like that brings up
a few feelings it away because it is a struggle out.
(02:07):
You're trying to do this. You cop a lot of hate.
I heard you mentioned that. You know. It's just yeah, look,
it's just just weighs heavy on me at times.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
You know. You know, I've got to be honest. I
try not to play into any of the you know,
the bullshit comments. And look I had, you know, some
comments even in a YouTube thing where I did a
interview with Gary Jubilant and you know, you've got sort
of the old ex Crims throwing out she shit calls,
you know, making out like you're a piece of shit,
(02:37):
You're no good. Can't this sort of talk? And then
you've got, you know, the heat side of the fence
of oh, you're just a scumbag that's set up a copper.
You know, you'll never change, you know, you just you always,
you always, And they do way heavy, especially when you
know what you bring to the table and the contribution
you're making to life and the community and trying to
help people. I mean a simple comment which you'll laugh about,
(02:59):
you know, you often see and I must say thank
you to everybody out there that gets on and does
leave a comment in the columns where you're allowed to
obviously express yourself ratings and sol on that. I mean,
we ninety percent of the time.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
Thing.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
We're at four point seven after four years, so I
can't complain. It's that's a pretty good rating in thousands
of comments. But the funny thing is that comes up
a lot is oh, really wanted to listen in. I
really wanted to get but unfortunately Brent was talking or
Brent was sharing this. Well, hello, Fuckheed.
Speaker 6 (03:30):
Obviously I've got to share it and I've got to
interact with my guests, and we do have a lot
in common because this is how the clin started, or
based off my story, which it is something that is
relatable to so many of my guests now over two
hundred guests, and look, I'm really sorry if that has
given somebody a little bit of salt in your wound.
But if you're feeling that salty in and you can't
(03:51):
accept hearing me and the guest interact, then please go
on listen to another podcast, because at the end of
the day, there's always going to be somebody else that
jumps in your seat and goes, how good was that?
And that's what we strive to do is bring you
the best, real true stories of success, redemption and just
powerful stories.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Danny, I really got to give you credit on your story,
and it is one that's so worthy. You know, you're
a dad, you're a husband, You definitely live what you
preach and each day you take those steps forward in recovery.
For those that don't know you, let's take them back
on a journey, because it is an in depth journey
(04:29):
and something that we've got to squash into a period
of time, and I want everybody to understand who you
really were and what life was like to the man
that you are today and the massive over the last
god knows how many years.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
I mean, fifteen years, five months, and two days. Claim.
We'll just going back to that. The negativity of course,
being in the in the spotlight. Sometimes it does draw
a bit of negative attention and it does be heavy
on me at times. But you know, we also learn
on this journey. Well I've certainly learned on this journey
that I think it's the words integrity or fronting up.
(05:05):
I just need to keep running up. And I do
know through all the mostly positive feedback, the impact that
I'm having. So what am I going to let that
one person in the room get me down? Sometimes I
want to, but I will not mate. I will not
do that. If I did, I probably would fail at
my own recovery too, because in a way, that's kind
of what recovery is. Like. You know, I picked up
(05:28):
drugs at a young age, but fourteen, it's horrible to
hear how young people are picking up drugs these days.
Like fourteen, that's old, that's getting old. Some of the
horrible stories I hear from, you know, like nine year olds,
ten year olds, eleven year olds who are smoke picking
up drugs and drinking at a younger age. I know
(05:51):
that's common, but anyway, for me, it was fourteen, I
quickly fell into I don't know if you'd call it addiction,
but I'm into regular use of smoking pot and sounding
to drink so daddled with speed and LSD and magic mushrooms.
By the age of fifteen, I tried all of those things.
(06:12):
Brand i'd done this little bit of a move a
geographical my mom and dad. Let me give mom and
Dad a shout out. First, Mom is this beautiful soul
who taught me all of my values and morals. Her
name's Maria. She gets a shout out and every other
my sort of interviews because she played such a massive role.
And then my dad, he's an a legend too recently
(06:33):
just passed away. He's nicknamed Shonky. He taught me everything
I shouldn't know. You know, my dad was my fence
for fifteen years, me and my Mayde. He used to
buy all our sole and equipment, and he put in
orders that my mom was his beautiful, loving soul who
would just always be shaking her head, and she would
visit me in jail every week. And so with my dad.
(06:53):
Mom would bring the love, my dad would bring the
drop that bring me roles or whatever it was. So
bless my dad. Man. I always told my dad Tony
as well. I think this plays a role too. So
I've never had a dad really, you know, I just
always called him Tony. He taught me everything I should know.
My mom My mom, I would say, is responsible for
(07:15):
this good spirit and values and morals that I have today. Anyway,
that shit all went out the window pretty quickly by
the age of fifteen. I first I said I would
never touch heroin. You know, I played before those other things,
and I didn't call them addiction yet because I think
I was just experimenting, dabbling. But I picked up Heroin
(07:36):
at fifteen in our mate for the next That was
the beginning of the end. Bro From the next seventeen years,
I never missed a day of it since then.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
You know that was a you know when you talk
like you just said, I never missed a day of it.
I only spoke with a Chap the other day and
we were talking about the commitment that us that have
criminal drug addiction pass what we did. Okay, once again,
(08:08):
we don't get on here and glorify any of it.
It's just it is part of each and every guest story,
so it needs to be spoken of the biggest thing
is like people say to me, now, okay, your business
is doing well, it's growing, you know, I've got a
pressure clean business, and most definitely it's you know, not
at it even a quarter of its peak? Moving forward?
(08:31):
Why do I push so hard? I work seven days
a week, whatever hour of the day. It doesn't bother me,
And I push it back to my mentality. They've grown
up on the streets, the hustle, you know, the need
to have to have money, the need to actually have
to put a roof over my head, clothing on my back. Yeah, okay,
they weren't the right choices, but I knew no different
growing up. It was survival and it's just what life
(08:55):
was and the cards that you were dealt with. You
talk about your addiction, the commitment of seventeen years of
never missing a day. Go and find some fucking body
that turns up to work every day for seventeen years
and tell me that they are committed to their job.
And I can tell you now, there ain't going to
be anybody out there but yet an addict as the
best commitment to fucking life.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
It's so true, Brent, and in that time too, bro,
like I spent say seven of those years in custody,
and I was still stoned every day. Like that's real
commitment if you can get dooned in jail every day. Now,
given I was on a big dose of methadone, so
I would count that as being stone. But I was
smoking pidon, using fucking amphetamines in prison walls on. Fucking
(09:37):
It was a bit hard to use heroin in prison
because I would never get enough. You know, I was
on a big doos of methadone by the end of it.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Better, Well, this is the thing, you know, like and
as you know what you're seeing there with back in
the days before the bube and subby came down with
the methadone, like the transition between someone's mouth to another
person's or a dabble and a dirty shot. I countless
times had walked past cells and blokes had just scotten
(10:04):
a drop someone out of the dome the next minute
from a dirty shot.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
Remember the spew man like the spew.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Ah, yes, browing the little little cotton bits and sticking around.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
And I had a dirty shot once too, from getting
it out of my own mouth and spitting into it
through a straw into a cup. I can't believe it's
got straight cleaning. Didn't get onto it, and then don't take
it outside and shoot it up And I ended up
with a dirty shot. It was the most sickest I
have ever been for three days. I was just like
(10:37):
death warmed up, you know And do you think that
stopped me? I did it again after that, you know? So?
Speaker 4 (10:42):
And that's the thing with you talking about commitment. You
actually you actually went on the run and got out
of jail, didn't you. Yeah, you took off.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
I did. I did scale the twenty four foot fence
with a big four foot barreling in two thousand and one,
brend I did manage to get up on top of
that fence during a religious event called.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Oh you weren't so you weren't half pieh on the
nod and just felt like going for a walk.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
Do you remember chorus they've had Chorus Chorus is an
event that they run him in the visiting areas in prison.
And I managed to at the end of that event
duck out of the back or everybody was in there
holding hands singing Kumbaya, and I managed to fucking scout
the fence and I got up on top of the
barrel fans. I'm still one hundred meters from the outside.
(11:31):
And as I was creeping along the fence kind of
like you know, like this, an officer I call him
mister Sink because he had the turb and he spotted
me up on the fence and he was straight on
the radio. So the chase was was on. Bro, the squad,
the U, they all got called. But I did manage
to get away. Bro, the good old U.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
You don't hear that set any more. Listens from one
of the old boys, the Malabar Emergency Units. Yeah, now
it's a whole different terminology. But if you know someone
that's actually dealt with the MU, you know that they've
been absolutely flogged.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
And well, yeah, yeah there you got your fucking put
you to put a stop to whatever behavior's going on
the MU. So yeah, I got away.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
You did, and you you know, you're out living what
you thought was just a life of well, I guess
it was addiction. You're in addiction. You you you're out there,
You're you're running the ball up to make an earn.
You're doing whatever you're doing. Where was your mindset back then?
Speaker 5 (12:36):
Man? Yeah, Brandon, I love that let's because it was.
That's just all the mess, you know, like it was.
It's just your typical fucking garden variety heroin age with
a will to using and get more drugs like no else,
you know, the obsession and compulsion like it's like I've
got this devil, this animal in time that needs to
(12:56):
get onto. To answer your question, all I cared about
bro was certainly not my life, I hate to say,
not even my family. How I was affecting my family,
I thought, I honestly thought, how am I hurting you guys?
You know this is so fucking selfish? Man? How am
I hurting my mom my sister? All I'm doing is
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hurting myself. You know That's the way I used to think,
And mate, I would do anything to get stones, you know.
So you know that would include using dirty and decting
equipment who have been include you know, breaking into factories
and I high speed police pursuits, you know, stealing cars
(13:39):
or I just had to get on to change the
way I felt because I hated how I felt straight.
I couldn't well. I was never straight for longer than
a couple of hours in all those years, you.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Know, with that Danny I just want to ask you
because you know, as we both know, I'm well aware
of today because of our open dialogues and men like
ourselves and women that are open to sharing their lives
now and we've lost that shame of holding back and
pressing things that have happened to us. For you, was
there anything earlier in your piece that actually triggered these
(14:12):
events for you to fall into addiction and wanted such
a young age to indulge in drugs and crime.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
Great question, Brenn. No, Look, well, look the worst to
God for me. And I think that's a really important
fact because anyone listening who doesn't come from an essay
background or even get flogged again like physical abuse, that
wasn't really my story, bro. What I do know is
that the day I picked up drugs at fourteen, I became,
(14:40):
like I remember growing up thinking I want to be
like that as well, like I used to see, like
you know, musicians and actors who were really on it
and getting smashed. I always wanted to be like that,
but it wasn't true. I don't know. It's just I
had a pretty good childhood, even though you know, I
was probably homeless at the age of fourteen, through my
(15:02):
own choices. I left my family and I went couch
surfing at a young age when I first picked up drugs.
But ultimately, no, mate, I didn't come from a background.
But what I do know is when I picked up drugs,
I became a different person immediately, So you don't have
to come from And the reason I say this because
(15:24):
it's really important, is I used to think I was
a bit different to other people because maybe maybe I
didn't have it bad enough to be using.
Speaker 7 (15:32):
But what I do know is to justify you out
there destroying your life, what's your excuse sort of thing
to why you're in this addiction, in this doom, in
this darkness and this pit of hell.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
Basically, what I know is addiction can come in many forms,
and maybe it's hereditary, maybe it comes from your home life,
or maybe you're just a fucking animal who loves drugs
and once they put them into your system, you just
changed into somebody who wasn't mean. That's kind of the
story I relate to most, you know.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
I mean, look, we talk about commitment, and I refer
back to it because I really so with this season
of The Clink, each episode and each guess. Our goal
is to give you know, two life important life tools
to success. So, you know, like everybody has a story,
and I'm not here to say anybody's story is better
(16:22):
or worse than others. But my whole objective with the
Clink now is we've grown and I want to enable
people to realize out there that are struggling, or people
that have been where we've been, that are there right now,
that they have a toolbox at the end of our
season with you know, twenty different options or steps to
bettering your life through people like yourself. Another guests for you.
(16:46):
You've had to learn the hard way, you know, but
I know and we will get to it. What you
bring to the table today and what skill sets and
how to manage And why I touched on the fact
of the whole you know, the haters and the naysayers
is because everybody writes off someone in a you just scum,
especially an addict, the heroin addict, You just shit, you know,
(17:09):
like you would remember and for those that do remember,
I remember walking the streets of Cabra when I was
very young, teenager and just you know, the streets, the
gutters were just lined with people on the nod and
it was just vomit, power spews, people just shuffling around
on the blink, scratching and talking shite. People are having
shots in the middle of the like it was just
(17:30):
a scene from an apocalypse that I don't think unless
you lived it all were there, you would ever understand.
But then I look at the way that society is today,
and that the type of drug that's being used, and
just the sadness that it has brought. I mean, look,
it was always a perse snatch or a robbery of
some type, but the way that we now see crime,
(17:56):
especially in our young people and in these early addictions,
and the way that the drugs are bringing out some
of the most disgusted and putrid acts that we as
men and many people would never accept. But today it's
just part of it. I find it, you know, really
really hard to so I guess process, but this is
(18:20):
the reality of it. And you're someone who's been very
hands on, especially in you know, the last ten years
of you know, being there as a support worker. You know,
you've you're really in the thick of it, and what
is it? What is it, Denny? With society in the
way that we're seeing today, and what's what's your thoughts
around it from somebody who's lived.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
It, Brent. Just on that note, I've got a seven
year old daughter who I have castody of at the moment.
Speaker 8 (18:48):
Her mum's away in rehab. Just to clarify, she's not
my wife, she's just I just look after her. But
on that note, so this stuff that you're talking about
hits home so so hard because like I'm petrified for her,
you know, Like, and when I hear some of the
horrific shit that's happening, man, I can't explain it.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
It's fucking disgusting. And all I can put it down
to is, I don't know if online presence plays a
big role, because if you actually look back forty years ago,
thirty years ago, I know the media plays out back then.
Back then it was just as fucked up to it's
just not as mainstream now. I think. I think a
(19:31):
lot of the truth is like now, it's just everybody
sees what's happening. But anyway, the point is, yeah, these kids,
this didn't happen back then. The way these kids are
cutting people and doing all that shit. Man, that it's
just so you've got to blame I think their parents
somewhat like they're growing up.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
I agree both. I agree, look the owner. The ownership
comes back as far as I'm concerned as the parents.
And I do a lot of workshops with troubled youth,
and something that you commonly see is they don't realize
how much alike they all are. And I'm talking about
the poor kid that's getting picked on because he's the
gronk or the whole you know, the group, or the
(20:09):
alpha boy that's sitting on the vape, flexing and kicking
everyone as he's walking in and shoving. And you know,
when you break it back and peel it all back,
they are all in this same position, and you know,
I try to bring them all in and at the
end they always seem to be in tears, hugging each other,
(20:30):
and it's a powerful, powerful moment. And you see that,
you know. But to me, when you hear the stories
of these young people, it falls back into the hands
of the parents. And I as a parent of four, mate,
I could have brought my style of living from years
ago into my lifestyle, raised my children in a certain
(20:50):
way that gave them that same sort of I guess
look at life and that it's okay to do things
like this and don't worry about your education or going
to school or your sports. Don't worry about it. Go
get stayn with your mates, Get on the pierce at
forty dead. I was locked up there in two years
at the age of thirteen, and I was drinking bottles
of Southern Comfort and fucking Jack Daniels and old turkey
(21:13):
and a bag of fucking gas, like let's go. That
was life, you know. Today, it's just it seems that
life struggles are hard, and this is you know, the
purpose once again of why we're here today is to
try and help those out there that really want to
change and make difference in their life. But you know,
(21:34):
we've got to look at the fact that where they're
coming from, what environment have they been exposed to? What
is the norm in that home? Is it normal for
a thirteen year old boy looking after his you know,
six month old baby sister while mum's got five blokes
lined up in the lound room, who hasn't slept for
two days. And this is the facts. And you ask
(21:54):
these kids, you know, like would you like to be
put somewhere else? I can't leave my sister. I can't
leave my little brother. It's heartbreaking, It's absolutely fucking heartbreaking.
But what will happen to that young person? Statistically, that
young person will do what they are seeing and become
a product of their environment.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
Yeah. Man, it's so it's so horrible. You know, so
often I have to literally because this stuff has such
a big impact on me. So often I have to
just go to this place where I go, Okay, this
is the world we live in, you know, like and
it's like I have to do that for my own
sanity because I you know, that thing room where room
and as vite caris trauma. Because I work for a
(22:35):
lot of these people, it can really bring up a
lot of those feelings, you know, Like can I just say,
like this morning and most mornings, I got up, I
opened my Doorter's bedroom, I said, good morning, babe. She
showed stressed, kicked you out. I went and I went
and jumped in the shower. Come back and I laid
down with her and I said, you know, I said,
(22:56):
what did you dream about? You know, like I just
I just give her this my own conditional love, Like
I know that I'm very fortunate maybe that I can
do that. I mean I love this little girl so much.
But imagine if every kid can have that fucking love
every morning, and you know that take you off to
school and say goodbye, let her how about the car
(23:17):
and walks up to the fence book because it gives
her a bit of independence, like all that stuff. That's
really how I'm molding this beautiful and she sees the
stuff I do helping people like, I don't know that's
a bloomone, han, but that's what you want. That's the
kind of figures we want for fucking kids.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
And you know, like I often say this all I
ask of my children every day and I'm the same,
you know, like I've got a daughter at seventeen, she's
legally blind. At the moment, I'm on my own raising
my children, doing a bloody good job. And that's not
a discredit. They've got a beautiful mom. She's a fantastic moment.
It's just the situation and I'm happy to be full
time with It's just what it is. But then you
(23:58):
know you're running a business, You've got all these side
hustles because you want to try and be the best
version of yourself provide and as a man or as
a woman today, when you're one out, you can't you
can't provide for a family if you're not hustling, if
you're not out there with at least two or three
incomes coming out, you're not going to get through and
(24:19):
you will have to resort to other things. And this
is the reality of society and life today. So you know,
people are struggling, people already that were struggling prior to
you know, the heavier things in life and their own
addictions and bad habits, which then as their children are
getting older that are seeing more of it, being more
exposed to. You know, that care factor of trying to
(24:41):
cover things up and hide from it is just non
existent anymore because it's just the norm. It is very hard,
you know, for me and for you, with our old
school morals. Is the last thing we want is our
children to ever take a step in our shoes, ever
from the past. Walk forward with me today all day
long and be the best version of yourself. And life
(25:03):
ain't fucking perfect because it's a roller coaster, but you know,
we have ways of being able to reach out today.
Speak ask for help is their talk for me. My
kids know me, they know all about Dad. There's nothing hidden.
I don't want them to hide from an I want
(25:24):
them to know because now they can walk around a
playground and see that a young person is struggling, and
they reach out and they can notice their body languages
and normal or they pick up on conversation and they
see different things that they choose to step away from
because they know where it's leading. And I'm very proud
of that as you I'm sure, our brother, because you know,
like just saying what you just said there, we are
(25:47):
being the best version of ourselves for ourselves, but for
our children.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
This isn't a lot of selfishness, Like a lot of
this fucking shit can be stopped, Like just stop being
so fucking selfish when it comes to kids, Broun. I'm
so passionate, Like if someone's using drugs abuse themselves, I
get it. When it comes to the kids, you got
nerve fucking right. And it's easy for me to say
that because I guess, look, bro, my son I haven't
mentioned my son grew up visiting me in the first
(26:13):
half of his life in prison and the institutions. You know,
I don't know how I could be for this moral
high ground, but now it doesn't battle like I have
to protect my daughter and I have to try and
protect any kids as well, because you know, like I
was a selfish fucker that was doing all that stuff
and you know, nobody else confixed for me. Not a
(26:36):
million dollars could change. I was the one. I had
to man up. I had to find some tools and
I had to stop fucking using as simple as that.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
Yeah, and I love that and I relate, you know,
twenty six year old son myself that you know, unfortunately
he knows I love him, But those those years are gone,
all that year's spend in jail and you know he's
mum raising him and basically saying enough. You know, like
you're not going to be spoken speaking to him because
you had your chances. Yeah, I did, and asked me
(27:05):
years ago, and I would have said, ah, she's this
and that, you know, but no, she was right. He
didn't deserve to have to continually come into jail and
visit me, and you know, yeah, okay, it's hurting the
years after, but this is the point you need to
take ownership. And you know, today's episode, I really feel
carries a lot of weight. And I know because of
(27:27):
your background and where you are today, you know, the
ownership and that not caring about what people fucking think
and embracing you know, like as we say we do. Yeah,
we get triggered like anybody, but do we come over
the top of it and realize that we're better than that?
And you're never going to see that person in the street.
(27:49):
They're never going to come and tappy on the show
and say, hey, you're a fucking doug, You're a weak,
can't do this, and that you're not going to say
to your face, you know, so it really doesn't matter.
I think, you know, as I do contradict sometimes myself
because I do react. I try not to, but.
Speaker 5 (28:07):
Yeah, it's over. Yeah, look, you'll never.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
You'll never see anybody pat you on the back when
you're up, when you're winning. I'll always pull you back
when they're jealous that you're up winning.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
I think it's okay to talk about, you know why,
because I think it shows transparency. It just shows that,
you know, it just shows that we're all just fucking
echo and were and like and who knows, maybe there's
a lesson in other people to because it's bullying, fucking bullies.
Bullies the most putads like, it's been a fucking bully,
(28:38):
that's all that. When you call someone a bully, it's
hard to Then they go up. Then they like because
bully is a real harsh word, really, isn't it When
you think if you're a bully man, you're you're picking
on the vulnerable people.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
You're like, yeah, you're weak, You're you're you're you're you're
actually weak because you're a bully. You're standing over, you're
you're belittling, you're taking advantage of the week.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
You know what.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
I love Brandmon you said then about the hustle, Like
that's like, yeah, you know what I've do got this,
you know, full time dad to the only because her
mom's away in rehabit the moment, so me and her
mom just to give a bit of curity to people.
I haven't been for a month for a long long time,
but I we co parent, you know, and thank you God.
(29:21):
Her mum got caught on the MetaDONE for some time
and she's gone away to her rehabit and we've been
documenting the journey too, which has been really cool, showing
people out there with the right support that you know,
families can you know, come away from this. But what
that means now is I do have the kid here
full time. I am running three businesses as well as
(29:42):
you mentioned, and it is a constant hustle and I
love it, bro like I wouldn't. That's why you do
go that extra mile, like you said before, because we
enjoy it. I enjoy it. I enjoyed the hustle so
and look, I certainly haven't made it yet. I'm making it,
you know. It's one day at a time. I feel
(30:02):
like I will not stop until until I woke so
I could stop, you know, but I do enjoy it, mate.
I've got a multitude of things after this. I'm in
twenty three minutes. I run an online group. I call
it our Law School Development Workshop. So through the NDIS,
we help bring individuals together in an online space to
(30:27):
learn tools, tips and tricks to I've got a whole
bunch of different topics like affirmations, connections, solution, budgeting, vision,
thirty topics up there on the board that I'm going
to age lesson. We teach one of those lessons and they're.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
I do love that.
Speaker 5 (30:44):
Love that well, that's how our lives NDIS Low School
Development Workshop. So weekdays at eleven am, Sydney time. I
run those groups. So that's one of my little housholds
I've got. And then I've got my app. So if
anyone doesn't know, I'm the founder of a very innovative,
cool video journaling app that allows you to record and
(31:05):
document your hopes, your dreams, your fears, and your future aspiration. So,
for example, you're struggling to pull out of our app
and ask you some on screen prompt questions which to
help guide you on a journey, says Danny, how are
you doing today? Well, actually I'm struggling. You know, when
we verbalize our issues out loud, we break down the barriers,
(31:26):
We improve the chances and likelihood of seeking the help
that we need when we're ready. So Encapsulator is my
biggest hustle. Brendan is I read that little note last time.
I'm going to post it. It was KFC. It's the
Colonel Santas right, it's got him, It's got Colonel Sanders
and says he pitched KFC one thousand and nine times
(31:48):
before success. You know, and I get quite emotional say
that because I'm not going to fucking give up man
like Encapsulator is going to be the top five mental health,
mental health and wellness apps in the world. I believe
I just haven't found the right connection yet, mate.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
And you know what, this is what life's about. And Danny,
this is why I wanted you on the cling because
your story is really moving and your action. You know,
it's not a verbal it's not a word. You don't
just get out there talking shit just to make an
earn and it's not about a gimmick. You fucking live
and breathe that one. You're going through it with your
daughter's mum. So once' Now that you're now the supporter
(32:27):
of somebody who's trying to better themselves through I will
say addiction methodons, addictives. God bless her and I wish
her all the very best. And you are now that
person that you needed. How awesome is that? But put
that aside. What you're giving is over and beyond expectations
(32:49):
because you're so passionate. You're so motivated and driven through
your own lived experience, which is something I love. I'm powerful.
It's look. I'm about to head to Townsville as a
guest in and organization's mentoring program in the second week
of March, and mate, I cannot wait. I'm going to
(33:11):
be going into the community working with all the troubled
youth up there, and I'm coming into a space where
they're trying to create prevention around the youth crime and
addiction up in Townsville, and they reached out to me.
It's been back and forth since before Christmas. It's now
locked in an official I'm going up there for four
days ago, right into the heart of it, and I
(33:32):
couldn't I could not be any proud of it, of
where I've come from and have somebody reach out to
me and ask me and validate my person because that,
to me shows whatever I'm doing here, like you just said,
it's having an impact. It's changing lives, it's making a difference,
and I'm fucking proud of that. You know, I've got
(33:54):
to juggle a few things to make it happen, but
we will. I'll do it and it'll be awesome. You know.
It's something that I really want people to start to
understand that you can.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
Oh, by the way, that's congratulations on that too. Isn't
it amazing the opportunities that come through sharing our stories.
That's what happened isn't it like people have been hearing
on the clink. They've very Brent Jinton. They're going to
fucking they want to let's get him up here to
help our young people. It's amazing. The opportunities are absolutely
(34:28):
limitless from doing what we do, So anyone who's thinking
about sharing their stories, I would encourage you to do
so because people need to hear it and those opportunities
are amazing. But what I was just going to say,
I say to everyone often is dream big. You know
you can do anything, and don't let the fear stop you.
Because for so long, heroine and it was really what
(34:51):
I was covering up with this fearm, and I was scared.
I was just this scared little boy who acted fucking tough,
but really, underneath it all, I just didn't know how
to live. Today, I've learned to live a life beyond
my older streams, and I would encourage everyone to be brave,
have some courage, dream big, gag because you can do anything,
which just reminds me of what you just said, Broan.
(35:12):
Congrats on that man.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
Yeah, look, as I said, you know, I'm very honored
and I've got a message from mel Big shout out, mel.
I know you're listening to this at some stage, but
she was saying, Brent, you know, like the kids have
just basically spammed your podcast. They're just you know, listening
to it. I'm going to all the truth, So I've
got to prepare myself for I'm sure a lot of
questions about different guests and over two hundred guests, and
(35:36):
as I say, five million downloads is literally a stone
throw away. So there's a bit bit behind the scenes
that I've got to go back and revise, and I'm
going to do a couple of podcasts up there because
I want to bring I want to bring what they're
doing to life, you know, I want I want the
world to know, and I feel that if I can
contribute back to the same I was one of those
(35:58):
young persons, you know, broken the system, in the system,
deep in the system, and it took me the best
part of you know, thirty odd years to pull my
head out of that. At forty nine, I'm very proud
of where I'm at, and life is not easy, and
this is something that we've just got to continue to
(36:19):
make sure that people understand it is a battle and
you are going to struggle. It's finding those those tools
through people like yourself, myself, and all the wonderful guests
that have been on How do we then embrace this
moment of we don't see the end of the fucking
tunnel and it's dark and I want to tap out,
you know, like I don't care. I'm so far in addiction.
(36:41):
Is a fuck about me? I look like shit now,
Like I've got no nutritional value within myself. I've got
no self reps of respect. I guess is the word Danny?
What's that advice would you give to that person? Because
I mean, you posted something the other day and it
(37:01):
was quite interesting because it showed the two types of Danny,
the Danny in addiction and the Danny today, you know,
the shoeless, the homeless looking guy, to the guy that's
just full of life energy and looks amazing, you know,
healthy and bouncing off the walls. You know, how do
you continue to try and network and making that a
(37:26):
reality for people? I mean, I get it, people have
got to want the want it themselves.
Speaker 5 (37:30):
But okay, well, Brent, great bro. I just want to say,
like I'm actually quite the introverted person. I just want
to share this because probably a lot of people out
there are like that as well, and they think that
you can't do this now. Even so it goes back
to this dream big like I know what I want.
I want to live a good life. I want to
give my family a good life too. So sometimes that
(37:52):
means I need to take little risks, you know. It
means I need to reach out. I need to say hey,
how you doing, put my hand out and say thank
you very much, let people know the positive impact that
they've had in my life. Now, by doing that, it
creates this energy like I always try to be the
better person in whatever situation I try to be. I'm
(38:12):
saying I get it right all the time. And what
that means is if somebody's looking grumpy or shitty or
pissed off, I just try and smile at them and
say hello, Hey, you going now? Brent. I know seems
far fast from what you're saying, but what that does
is it creates small talk, and small talk sometimes leads
to biggest stuff to you know. And the reason I
(38:33):
say I'm an introvert is I am I don't like
It's like I don't like people because that fears still
underneath me a lot, but my life and my daughter's life,
my family's life is more important. So I go outside
of my comfort zone. I go outside of my comfort zone.
And that's where they say growth happens out of the
(38:55):
comfort zone. And I do that every single day. Man.
So I would just again say to people, especially if
you're feeling down, sad like and you don't want to
be here anymore, I think they're probably the most important
person in the room. I often say, Brend my social media,
I do a lot of live streams as well, and
(39:16):
I often say that the most important person in the
room is that person that you can see in the
numbers in the viewers, but they're not saying anything. They're
not commenting. You know why they're not saying because they're
ashamed to comment and let other people see that they're
in there, or they're coming from some kind of domestic
violunce that they can't be seen to be engaging with
(39:36):
that stuff. Now, they are the most important people in
the room. And I've also seen that those people over
time will then reach out and say, Danny, You've been
watching you for years, you know you get this all
the time. I've been watching you for years. You've had
this much of an impact because if we can reach
those people, the most important people in the room, the
ones who aren't commenting and just watching in silence. I
(39:58):
just want to let you know that, yeah, that you
can do this, and all you need to do is
be brave, have some courage, each out. I answer every
single DM that I get. I might not answer it
straight away, but reach out because you will get an
audio response from me. And sometimes that's all that you
need is just to be validated and heard. Let somebody
(40:18):
know that somebody cares. So yeah, bro, I think that's
what i'd say to that.
Speaker 4 (40:25):
I really got to give you credit to. You know,
like when I first come across your pay and I
don't do TikTok because for me personally, I find it
way too toxic and I end up just I can't
tolerate the conversations and the actions of people. And I know, look,
it's not my burden to carry, but when it involves me,
it's not cool. But I have definitely skimmed across it
(40:48):
in the earliest stages to make that call. And you,
my friend, oh wow, talk about fucking and don't take
this the wrong way. But if you're fucking a clown
in a circus. Mate, you did the best clown in
the world because you're fucking funny. And the way that
you put the way that you put the facts, and
sometimes it's very painful what you talk about because it's
(41:10):
a reality check, but you're able to put it in
context that actually gives people a little bit of a
smack in the face, but at the same time a
little bit of humor on the back. But now, for
an introverted man, you do pretty good, brother, Brett.
Speaker 5 (41:24):
I truly am an introvert. One thing I've learned about
me is that person you see on social media it's
me one hundred percent, but it's like my ultra ego
or something. It's not the guy that you will see
talking the street. You never hear me talking recovery or
this or that to someone I just meet, you know.
But but do you know what, just just today, we've
(41:46):
hit one reel with eleven million views and it's exactly
that just me. I mean, yeah, there's a post going
off on my Facebook at the moment with eleven million views. Like,
just imagine the impact that's evened out there. There's eleven
million views, a hundred interactions. But it's just me with
(42:09):
some sound at the top, me in addiction, and then
me doing this bit of a dance, which is not
fucking me. Bro You will not find me dancing the street.
But the thing is, people go, look is that really him?
And now look at it now, like if I.
Speaker 4 (42:23):
Can set it in the street, Danny's in the street.
Speaker 5 (42:29):
My stories like what a beautiful Just have a go, man,
That's what I'm saying. That's the thing.
Speaker 4 (42:35):
But you've been able to connect through being that way
and breaking breaking breaking the cycle and engaging in conversation.
Now that to me right there is a massive win
because you're able to connect with people that you normally
wouldn't through you just being you. And I think that
that is really powerful, Broan, especially in what you're doing
(42:56):
in the space that you're in and the difference that
you're making. And look, I know that you know you're
you're back to back after this, so I'm going to
push push a and there is so much more to
you and your story. So forgive us if we've sort
of overshot anything here, because look, we can always have
Danny back on for a part to any hour of
any day. That's not a problem. But I want to
(43:18):
just focus a little bit more on, you know, the
successes that you're having today exactly and specific and how
people can reach out to you, and just I want
you to give us those two tools based around the
naysay and the hope, because I feel that you live
(43:38):
with hope and you've had a million naysayers write you off.
So how has Danny Shannon gotten to where he is?
And what advice would you give to others out there
in this space?
Speaker 5 (43:51):
Yeah? Again, I would just say to be brave, have courage,
you know, like I often have to remind myself, like
I really do with my heart, must say so somebody
hurt me. I'm not going to necessarily get on Facebook
and start telling people about but I'll tell you someone
because I don't like the bottom up thing. You know,
(44:12):
they say your secrets, keep your secret feelings, Like I
just try and express myself. I've become this quite I
don't day a man who's not afraid to tell the
truth and express my feelings. Be brave, have courage, reach
out to somebody and yeah and just yeah, man, like
(44:32):
we can do anything, bro, you know, I'd love just
for if anyone wants to know if they want to
reach out. There's two things that I love to share
with you, and I've already quickly. We're Encapsulated, which is
my app. Okay, it's an app with thirty plus programs,
So you can look up Encapsulator on the App Store
(44:55):
or on Android on Google Play, and there's some whole
bunch of freak programs and you can start to explore
your thoughts and feelings using our video technology to break
down the barriers, express yourself without any fear of judgment
in a private, confidential space. So that's number one. That's
my big that's my big dream. It's up here, it's
(45:17):
up on my wall, it's all over my house. It's
my manifestation for twenty twenty seven that you can see here.
And secondly, if anyone, I run two types of groups,
if anyone's on NDIS and you'd like to be supported
around our life skill development workshops. Basically, just to break
(45:38):
it down simply, all we do is bring people together
from all over Australia in an online space. There's nothing
too confronting. I'm not here to dig deep into your
trauma at all. That's not what I do. All I
do is I help you feel validated, I help you
feel heard, and I give you one tool to walk
away and live your best life for the day. And
(45:58):
to anyone who's not on NDIS. On a Wednesday night,
seven point thirty pm, I run my end Hour of Power.
It's another online group I'm where I teach very similar stuff.
It's cheap as chips. Reach out to me under Danny Shannon.
You'll find me on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, LinkedIn any other
platform that's out there. I've been verified on all platforms,
(46:22):
which is a real incredible.
Speaker 4 (46:23):
I say, you know you don't pay for your blue teeth.
Speaker 5 (46:25):
No, I don't pay for the bluetick. That's right, Brian deal, Yeah,
there's true. People don't even know that. Actually, once upon
a time he used to be able to get verified
by these platforms just for your you know, the writary apparently.
So yeah, I never paid for a blue tick made up.
Speaker 4 (46:42):
I've been rejected every time I try to get it.
In the end, I just go fuck it. I can't
be bothered. I am who I am, and if you
don't believe me, then if you want to be if
you want to beat me, go for it, because I
can tell you there's a lot that you don't want
to be.
Speaker 5 (46:53):
Yeah, true. If you just reach out to me on
Danny Shannon with the bluetick, make sure you get them
und the bluetick because there is a couple of impostors
out there. He might not be as nice as me.
Just reach out, send me a DM the best platform
to get me on Instagram or Messenger, Facebook Messenger and
I respond to every message. Encapsulators on that app store
(47:16):
on Google Play download that have a crack reach out
to me and yeah, man, dream big.
Speaker 4 (47:22):
You can do anything, and you know what I want
to take you and just thank you. I want to
say to you, mate, please allow us to have another
episode with you when you have a little bit more time.
You're an absolute legend for everybody out there. This is
Denny Shannon and I'm grateful to have just a small
piece of your time today. Thank you, Welcome to the
(47:42):
Clink and now goodbye from the Clinkleskay, thank you everybody
who was tuned in today. Shorter one very informative with
a wonderful man. He's giving you all the details there.
We'll also add that in thank you to Sideway, Surf
and Pod shape and to you, the listener that continues
to turn up each week, From me to you for
the best you.
Speaker 1 (48:00):
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Speaker 2 (48:03):
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Pride for the record.
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For the record. Don't try and make you uncomfortable.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Welcome back to the Clink. Fantastic to have you all
back for another episode here today. I tell you what,
I'm actually quietly excited. This guest today has been someone
that I've been communicating with for several years. This man
is doing wonderful things. I'm going to let you hear
his story from his mouth because it is one that
(01:13):
I believe is very worthy, and the contribution to community
that he gives and the skills that he has in
life acquired through his own lived experiences phenomenal. You know,
I really want to take today and let's look at
what it takes when you feel rejected, the haters, the naysayers,
you know, the adversity that you can't do this, or
(01:34):
you you shouldn't be able to do this, or even
just been written off as a statistic today, Denny Shannon,
Welcome to the clink, mate. I couldn't ask for a
better person to be able to explain all that.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
Brother. It's so good to be here, Brendan. We have
had a few crxit. I don't know what happened was
I actually I kind of remember one thing happening. But anyway, mate,
it has been well, it's absolutely pleasure to know you
and to be a part of your show mate, and
those things that you just mentioned, like that brings up
a few feelings it away because it is a struggle out.
(02:07):
You're trying to do this. You cop a lot of hate.
I heard you mentioned that. You know. It's just yeah, look,
it's just just weighs heavy on me at times.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
You know. You know, I've got to be honest. I
try not to play into any of the you know,
the bullshit comments. And look I had, you know, some
comments even in a YouTube thing where I did a
interview with Gary Jubilant and you know, you've got sort
of the old ex Crims throwing out she shit calls,
you know, making out like you're a piece of shit,
(02:37):
You're no good. Can't this sort of talk? And then
you've got, you know, the heat side of the fence
of oh, you're just a scumbag that's set up a copper.
You know, you'll never change, you know, you just you always,
you always, And they do way heavy, especially when you
know what you bring to the table and the contribution
you're making to life and the community and trying to
help people. I mean a simple comment which you'll laugh about,
(02:59):
you know, you often see and I must say thank
you to everybody out there that gets on and does
leave a comment in the columns where you're allowed to
obviously express yourself ratings and sol on that. I mean,
we ninety percent of the time.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
Thing.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
We're at four point seven after four years, so I
can't complain. It's that's a pretty good rating in thousands
of comments. But the funny thing is that comes up
a lot is oh, really wanted to listen in. I
really wanted to get but unfortunately Brent was talking or
Brent was sharing this. Well, hello, Fuckheed.
Speaker 6 (03:30):
Obviously I've got to share it and I've got to
interact with my guests, and we do have a lot
in common because this is how the clin started, or
based off my story, which it is something that is
relatable to so many of my guests now over two
hundred guests, and look, I'm really sorry if that has
given somebody a little bit of salt in your wound.
But if you're feeling that salty in and you can't
(03:51):
accept hearing me and the guest interact, then please go
on listen to another podcast, because at the end of
the day, there's always going to be somebody else that
jumps in your seat and goes, how good was that?
And that's what we strive to do is bring you
the best, real true stories of success, redemption and just
powerful stories.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Danny, I really got to give you credit on your story,
and it is one that's so worthy. You know, you're
a dad, you're a husband, You definitely live what you
preach and each day you take those steps forward in recovery.
For those that don't know you, let's take them back
on a journey, because it is an in depth journey
(04:29):
and something that we've got to squash into a period
of time, and I want everybody to understand who you
really were and what life was like to the man
that you are today and the massive over the last
god knows how many years.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
I mean, fifteen years, five months, and two days. Claim.
We'll just going back to that. The negativity of course,
being in the in the spotlight. Sometimes it does draw
a bit of negative attention and it does be heavy
on me at times. But you know, we also learn
on this journey. Well I've certainly learned on this journey
that I think it's the words integrity or fronting up.
(05:05):
I just need to keep running up. And I do
know through all the mostly positive feedback, the impact that
I'm having. So what am I going to let that
one person in the room get me down? Sometimes I
want to, but I will not mate. I will not
do that. If I did, I probably would fail at
my own recovery too, because in a way, that's kind
of what recovery is. Like. You know, I picked up
(05:28):
drugs at a young age, but fourteen, it's horrible to
hear how young people are picking up drugs these days.
Like fourteen, that's old, that's getting old. Some of the
horrible stories I hear from, you know, like nine year olds,
ten year olds, eleven year olds who are smoke picking
up drugs and drinking at a younger age. I know
(05:51):
that's common, but anyway, for me, it was fourteen, I
quickly fell into I don't know if you'd call it addiction,
but I'm into regular use of smoking pot and sounding
to drink so daddled with speed and LSD and magic mushrooms.
By the age of fifteen, I tried all of those things.
(06:12):
Brand i'd done this little bit of a move a
geographical my mom and dad. Let me give mom and
Dad a shout out. First, Mom is this beautiful soul
who taught me all of my values and morals. Her
name's Maria. She gets a shout out and every other
my sort of interviews because she played such a massive role.
And then my dad, he's an a legend too recently
(06:33):
just passed away. He's nicknamed Shonky. He taught me everything
I shouldn't know. You know, my dad was my fence
for fifteen years, me and my Mayde. He used to
buy all our sole and equipment, and he put in
orders that my mom was his beautiful, loving soul who
would just always be shaking her head, and she would
visit me in jail every week. And so with my dad.
(06:53):
Mom would bring the love, my dad would bring the
drop that bring me roles or whatever it was. So
bless my dad. Man. I always told my dad Tony
as well. I think this plays a role too. So
I've never had a dad really, you know, I just
always called him Tony. He taught me everything I should know.
My mom My mom, I would say, is responsible for
(07:15):
this good spirit and values and morals that I have today. Anyway,
that shit all went out the window pretty quickly by
the age of fifteen. I first I said I would
never touch heroin. You know, I played before those other things,
and I didn't call them addiction yet because I think
I was just experimenting, dabbling. But I picked up Heroin
(07:36):
at fifteen in our mate for the next That was
the beginning of the end. Bro From the next seventeen years,
I never missed a day of it since then.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
You know that was a you know when you talk
like you just said, I never missed a day of it.
I only spoke with a Chap the other day and
we were talking about the commitment that us that have
criminal drug addiction pass what we did. Okay, once again,
(08:08):
we don't get on here and glorify any of it.
It's just it is part of each and every guest story,
so it needs to be spoken of the biggest thing
is like people say to me, now, okay, your business
is doing well, it's growing, you know, I've got a
pressure clean business, and most definitely it's you know, not
at it even a quarter of its peak? Moving forward?
(08:31):
Why do I push so hard? I work seven days
a week, whatever hour of the day. It doesn't bother me,
And I push it back to my mentality. They've grown
up on the streets, the hustle, you know, the need
to have to have money, the need to actually have
to put a roof over my head, clothing on my back. Yeah, okay,
they weren't the right choices, but I knew no different
growing up. It was survival and it's just what life
(08:55):
was and the cards that you were dealt with. You
talk about your addiction, the commitment of seventeen years of
never missing a day. Go and find some fucking body
that turns up to work every day for seventeen years
and tell me that they are committed to their job.
And I can tell you now, there ain't going to
be anybody out there but yet an addict as the
best commitment to fucking life.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
It's so true, Brent, and in that time too, bro,
like I spent say seven of those years in custody,
and I was still stoned every day. Like that's real
commitment if you can get dooned in jail every day. Now,
given I was on a big dose of methadone, so
I would count that as being stone. But I was
smoking pidon, using fucking amphetamines in prison walls on. Fucking
(09:37):
It was a bit hard to use heroin in prison
because I would never get enough. You know, I was
on a big doos of methadone by the end of it.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Better, Well, this is the thing, you know, like and
as you know what you're seeing there with back in
the days before the bube and subby came down with
the methadone, like the transition between someone's mouth to another
person's or a dabble and a dirty shot. I countless
times had walked past cells and blokes had just scotten
(10:04):
a drop someone out of the dome the next minute
from a dirty shot.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
Remember the spew man like the spew.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Ah, yes, browing the little little cotton bits and sticking around.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
And I had a dirty shot once too, from getting
it out of my own mouth and spitting into it
through a straw into a cup. I can't believe it's
got straight cleaning. Didn't get onto it, and then don't take
it outside and shoot it up And I ended up
with a dirty shot. It was the most sickest I
have ever been for three days. I was just like
(10:37):
death warmed up, you know And do you think that
stopped me? I did it again after that, you know? So?
Speaker 4 (10:42):
And that's the thing with you talking about commitment. You
actually you actually went on the run and got out
of jail, didn't you. Yeah, you took off.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
I did. I did scale the twenty four foot fence
with a big four foot barreling in two thousand and one,
brend I did manage to get up on top of
that fence during a religious event called.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Oh you weren't so you weren't half pieh on the
nod and just felt like going for a walk.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
Do you remember chorus they've had Chorus Chorus is an
event that they run him in the visiting areas in prison.
And I managed to at the end of that event
duck out of the back or everybody was in there
holding hands singing Kumbaya, and I managed to fucking scout
the fence and I got up on top of the
barrel fans. I'm still one hundred meters from the outside.
(11:31):
And as I was creeping along the fence kind of
like you know, like this, an officer I call him
mister Sink because he had the turb and he spotted
me up on the fence and he was straight on
the radio. So the chase was was on. Bro, the squad,
the U, they all got called. But I did manage
to get away. Bro, the good old U.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
You don't hear that set any more. Listens from one
of the old boys, the Malabar Emergency Units. Yeah, now
it's a whole different terminology. But if you know someone
that's actually dealt with the MU, you know that they've
been absolutely flogged.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
And well, yeah, yeah there you got your fucking put
you to put a stop to whatever behavior's going on
the MU. So yeah, I got away.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
You did, and you you know, you're out living what
you thought was just a life of well, I guess
it was addiction. You're in addiction. You you you're out there,
You're you're running the ball up to make an earn.
You're doing whatever you're doing. Where was your mindset back then?
Speaker 5 (12:36):
Man? Yeah, Brandon, I love that let's because it was.
That's just all the mess, you know, like it was.
It's just your typical fucking garden variety heroin age with
a will to using and get more drugs like no else,
you know, the obsession and compulsion like it's like I've
got this devil, this animal in time that needs to
(12:56):
get onto. To answer your question, all I cared about
bro was certainly not my life, I hate to say,
not even my family. How I was affecting my family,
I thought, I honestly thought, how am I hurting you guys?
You know this is so fucking selfish? Man? How am
I hurting my mom my sister? All I'm doing is
(13:17):
hurting myself. You know That's the way I used to think,
And mate, I would do anything to get stones, you know.
So you know that would include using dirty and decting
equipment who have been include you know, breaking into factories
and I high speed police pursuits, you know, stealing cars
(13:39):
or I just had to get on to change the
way I felt because I hated how I felt straight.
I couldn't well. I was never straight for longer than
a couple of hours in all those years, you.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Know, with that Danny I just want to ask you
because you know, as we both know, I'm well aware
of today because of our open dialogues and men like
ourselves and women that are open to sharing their lives
now and we've lost that shame of holding back and
pressing things that have happened to us. For you, was
there anything earlier in your piece that actually triggered these
(14:12):
events for you to fall into addiction and wanted such
a young age to indulge in drugs and crime.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
Great question, Brenn. No, Look, well, look the worst to
God for me. And I think that's a really important
fact because anyone listening who doesn't come from an essay
background or even get flogged again like physical abuse, that
wasn't really my story, bro. What I do know is
that the day I picked up drugs at fourteen, I became,
(14:40):
like I remember growing up thinking I want to be
like that as well, like I used to see, like
you know, musicians and actors who were really on it
and getting smashed. I always wanted to be like that,
but it wasn't true. I don't know. It's just I
had a pretty good childhood, even though you know, I
was probably homeless at the age of fourteen, through my
(15:02):
own choices. I left my family and I went couch
surfing at a young age when I first picked up drugs.
But ultimately, no, mate, I didn't come from a background.
But what I do know is when I picked up drugs,
I became a different person immediately, So you don't have
to come from And the reason I say this because
(15:24):
it's really important, is I used to think I was
a bit different to other people because maybe maybe I
didn't have it bad enough to be using.
Speaker 7 (15:32):
But what I do know is to justify you out
there destroying your life, what's your excuse sort of thing
to why you're in this addiction, in this doom, in
this darkness and this pit of hell.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
Basically, what I know is addiction can come in many forms,
and maybe it's hereditary, maybe it comes from your home life,
or maybe you're just a fucking animal who loves drugs
and once they put them into your system, you just
changed into somebody who wasn't mean. That's kind of the
story I relate to most, you know.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
I mean, look, we talk about commitment, and I refer
back to it because I really so with this season
of The Clink, each episode and each guess. Our goal
is to give you know, two life important life tools
to success. So, you know, like everybody has a story,
and I'm not here to say anybody's story is better
(16:22):
or worse than others. But my whole objective with the
Clink now is we've grown and I want to enable
people to realize out there that are struggling, or people
that have been where we've been, that are there right now,
that they have a toolbox at the end of our
season with you know, twenty different options or steps to
bettering your life through people like yourself. Another guests for you.
(16:46):
You've had to learn the hard way, you know, but
I know and we will get to it. What you
bring to the table today and what skill sets and
how to manage And why I touched on the fact
of the whole you know, the haters and the naysayers
is because everybody writes off someone in a you just scum,
especially an addict, the heroin addict, You just shit, you know,
(17:09):
like you would remember and for those that do remember,
I remember walking the streets of Cabra when I was
very young, teenager and just you know, the streets, the
gutters were just lined with people on the nod and
it was just vomit, power spews, people just shuffling around
on the blink, scratching and talking shite. People are having
shots in the middle of the like it was just
(17:30):
a scene from an apocalypse that I don't think unless
you lived it all were there, you would ever understand.
But then I look at the way that society is today,
and that the type of drug that's being used, and
just the sadness that it has brought. I mean, look,
it was always a perse snatch or a robbery of
some type, but the way that we now see crime,
(17:56):
especially in our young people and in these early addictions,
and the way that the drugs are bringing out some
of the most disgusted and putrid acts that we as
men and many people would never accept. But today it's
just part of it. I find it, you know, really
really hard to so I guess process, but this is
(18:20):
the reality of it. And you're someone who's been very
hands on, especially in you know, the last ten years
of you know, being there as a support worker. You know,
you've you're really in the thick of it, and what
is it? What is it, Denny? With society in the
way that we're seeing today, and what's what's your thoughts
around it from somebody who's lived.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
It, Brent. Just on that note, I've got a seven
year old daughter who I have castody of at the moment.
Speaker 8 (18:48):
Her mum's away in rehab. Just to clarify, she's not
my wife, she's just I just look after her. But
on that note, so this stuff that you're talking about
hits home so so hard because like I'm petrified for her,
you know, Like, and when I hear some of the
horrific shit that's happening, man, I can't explain it.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
It's fucking disgusting. And all I can put it down
to is, I don't know if online presence plays a
big role, because if you actually look back forty years ago,
thirty years ago, I know the media plays out back then.
Back then it was just as fucked up to it's
just not as mainstream now. I think. I think a
(19:31):
lot of the truth is like now, it's just everybody
sees what's happening. But anyway, the point is, yeah, these kids,
this didn't happen back then. The way these kids are
cutting people and doing all that shit. Man, that it's
just so you've got to blame I think their parents
somewhat like they're growing up.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
I agree both. I agree, look the owner. The ownership
comes back as far as I'm concerned as the parents.
And I do a lot of workshops with troubled youth,
and something that you commonly see is they don't realize
how much alike they all are. And I'm talking about
the poor kid that's getting picked on because he's the
gronk or the whole you know, the group, or the
(20:09):
alpha boy that's sitting on the vape, flexing and kicking
everyone as he's walking in and shoving. And you know,
when you break it back and peel it all back,
they are all in this same position, and you know,
I try to bring them all in and at the
end they always seem to be in tears, hugging each other,
(20:30):
and it's a powerful, powerful moment. And you see that,
you know. But to me, when you hear the stories
of these young people, it falls back into the hands
of the parents. And I as a parent of four, mate,
I could have brought my style of living from years
ago into my lifestyle, raised my children in a certain
(20:50):
way that gave them that same sort of I guess
look at life and that it's okay to do things
like this and don't worry about your education or going
to school or your sports. Don't worry about it. Go
get stayn with your mates, Get on the pierce at
forty dead. I was locked up there in two years
at the age of thirteen, and I was drinking bottles
of Southern Comfort and fucking Jack Daniels and old turkey
(21:13):
and a bag of fucking gas, like let's go. That
was life, you know. Today, it's just it seems that
life struggles are hard, and this is you know, the
purpose once again of why we're here today is to
try and help those out there that really want to
change and make difference in their life. But you know,
(21:34):
we've got to look at the fact that where they're
coming from, what environment have they been exposed to? What
is the norm in that home? Is it normal for
a thirteen year old boy looking after his you know,
six month old baby sister while mum's got five blokes
lined up in the lound room, who hasn't slept for
two days. And this is the facts. And you ask
(21:54):
these kids, you know, like would you like to be
put somewhere else? I can't leave my sister. I can't
leave my little brother. It's heartbreaking, It's absolutely fucking heartbreaking.
But what will happen to that young person? Statistically, that
young person will do what they are seeing and become
a product of their environment.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
Yeah. Man, it's so it's so horrible. You know, so
often I have to literally because this stuff has such
a big impact on me. So often I have to
just go to this place where I go, Okay, this
is the world we live in, you know, like and
it's like I have to do that for my own
sanity because I you know, that thing room where room
and as vite caris trauma. Because I work for a
(22:35):
lot of these people, it can really bring up a
lot of those feelings, you know, Like can I just say,
like this morning and most mornings, I got up, I
opened my Doorter's bedroom, I said, good morning, babe. She
showed stressed, kicked you out. I went and I went
and jumped in the shower. Come back and I laid
down with her and I said, you know, I said,
(22:56):
what did you dream about? You know, like I just
I just give her this my own conditional love, Like
I know that I'm very fortunate maybe that I can
do that. I mean I love this little girl so much.
But imagine if every kid can have that fucking love
every morning, and you know that take you off to
school and say goodbye, let her how about the car
(23:17):
and walks up to the fence book because it gives
her a bit of independence, like all that stuff. That's
really how I'm molding this beautiful and she sees the
stuff I do helping people like, I don't know that's
a bloomone, han, but that's what you want. That's the
kind of figures we want for fucking kids.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
And you know, like I often say this all I
ask of my children every day and I'm the same,
you know, like I've got a daughter at seventeen, she's
legally blind. At the moment, I'm on my own raising
my children, doing a bloody good job. And that's not
a discredit. They've got a beautiful mom. She's a fantastic moment.
It's just the situation and I'm happy to be full
time with It's just what it is. But then you
(23:58):
know you're running a business, You've got all these side
hustles because you want to try and be the best
version of yourself provide and as a man or as
a woman today, when you're one out, you can't you
can't provide for a family if you're not hustling, if
you're not out there with at least two or three
incomes coming out, you're not going to get through and
(24:19):
you will have to resort to other things. And this
is the reality of society and life today. So you know,
people are struggling, people already that were struggling prior to
you know, the heavier things in life and their own
addictions and bad habits, which then as their children are
getting older that are seeing more of it, being more
exposed to. You know, that care factor of trying to
(24:41):
cover things up and hide from it is just non
existent anymore because it's just the norm. It is very hard,
you know, for me and for you, with our old
school morals. Is the last thing we want is our
children to ever take a step in our shoes, ever
from the past. Walk forward with me today all day
long and be the best version of yourself. And life
(25:03):
ain't fucking perfect because it's a roller coaster, but you know,
we have ways of being able to reach out today.
Speak ask for help is their talk for me. My
kids know me, they know all about Dad. There's nothing hidden.
I don't want them to hide from an I want
(25:24):
them to know because now they can walk around a
playground and see that a young person is struggling, and
they reach out and they can notice their body languages
and normal or they pick up on conversation and they
see different things that they choose to step away from
because they know where it's leading. And I'm very proud
of that as you I'm sure, our brother, because you know,
like just saying what you just said there, we are
(25:47):
being the best version of ourselves for ourselves, but for
our children.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
This isn't a lot of selfishness, Like a lot of
this fucking shit can be stopped, Like just stop being
so fucking selfish when it comes to kids, Broun. I'm
so passionate, Like if someone's using drugs abuse themselves, I
get it. When it comes to the kids, you got
nerve fucking right. And it's easy for me to say
that because I guess, look, bro, my son I haven't
mentioned my son grew up visiting me in the first
(26:13):
half of his life in prison and the institutions. You know,
I don't know how I could be for this moral
high ground, but now it doesn't battle like I have
to protect my daughter and I have to try and
protect any kids as well, because you know, like I
was a selfish fucker that was doing all that stuff
and you know, nobody else confixed for me. Not a
(26:36):
million dollars could change. I was the one. I had
to man up. I had to find some tools and
I had to stop fucking using as simple as that.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
Yeah, and I love that and I relate, you know,
twenty six year old son myself that you know, unfortunately
he knows I love him, But those those years are gone,
all that year's spend in jail and you know he's
mum raising him and basically saying enough. You know, like
you're not going to be spoken speaking to him because
you had your chances. Yeah, I did, and asked me
(27:05):
years ago, and I would have said, ah, she's this
and that, you know, but no, she was right. He
didn't deserve to have to continually come into jail and
visit me, and you know, yeah, okay, it's hurting the
years after, but this is the point you need to
take ownership. And you know, today's episode, I really feel
carries a lot of weight. And I know because of
(27:27):
your background and where you are today, you know, the
ownership and that not caring about what people fucking think
and embracing you know, like as we say we do. Yeah,
we get triggered like anybody, but do we come over
the top of it and realize that we're better than that?
And you're never going to see that person in the street.
(27:49):
They're never going to come and tappy on the show
and say, hey, you're a fucking doug, You're a weak,
can't do this, and that you're not going to say
to your face, you know, so it really doesn't matter.
I think, you know, as I do contradict sometimes myself
because I do react. I try not to, but.
Speaker 5 (28:07):
Yeah, it's over. Yeah, look, you'll never.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
You'll never see anybody pat you on the back when
you're up, when you're winning. I'll always pull you back
when they're jealous that you're up winning.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
I think it's okay to talk about, you know why,
because I think it shows transparency. It just shows that,
you know, it just shows that we're all just fucking
echo and were and like and who knows, maybe there's
a lesson in other people to because it's bullying, fucking bullies.
Bullies the most putads like, it's been a fucking bully,
(28:38):
that's all that. When you call someone a bully, it's
hard to Then they go up. Then they like because
bully is a real harsh word, really, isn't it When
you think if you're a bully man, you're you're picking
on the vulnerable people.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
You're like, yeah, you're weak, You're you're you're you're you're
actually weak because you're a bully. You're standing over, you're
you're belittling, you're taking advantage of the week.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
You know what.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
I love Brandmon you said then about the hustle, Like
that's like, yeah, you know what I've do got this,
you know, full time dad to the only because her
mom's away in rehabit the moment, so me and her
mom just to give a bit of curity to people.
I haven't been for a month for a long long time,
but I we co parent, you know, and thank you God.
(29:21):
Her mum got caught on the MetaDONE for some time
and she's gone away to her rehabit and we've been
documenting the journey too, which has been really cool, showing
people out there with the right support that you know,
families can you know, come away from this. But what
that means now is I do have the kid here
full time. I am running three businesses as well as
(29:42):
you mentioned, and it is a constant hustle and I
love it, bro like I wouldn't. That's why you do
go that extra mile, like you said before, because we
enjoy it. I enjoy it. I enjoyed the hustle so
and look, I certainly haven't made it yet. I'm making it,
you know. It's one day at a time. I feel
(30:02):
like I will not stop until until I woke so
I could stop, you know, but I do enjoy it, mate.
I've got a multitude of things after this. I'm in
twenty three minutes. I run an online group. I call
it our Law School Development Workshop. So through the NDIS,
we help bring individuals together in an online space to
(30:27):
learn tools, tips and tricks to I've got a whole
bunch of different topics like affirmations, connections, solution, budgeting, vision,
thirty topics up there on the board that I'm going
to age lesson. We teach one of those lessons and they're.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
I do love that.
Speaker 5 (30:44):
Love that well, that's how our lives NDIS Low School
Development Workshop. So weekdays at eleven am, Sydney time. I
run those groups. So that's one of my little housholds
I've got. And then I've got my app. So if
anyone doesn't know, I'm the founder of a very innovative,
cool video journaling app that allows you to record and
(31:05):
document your hopes, your dreams, your fears, and your future aspiration. So,
for example, you're struggling to pull out of our app
and ask you some on screen prompt questions which to
help guide you on a journey, says Danny, how are
you doing today? Well, actually I'm struggling. You know, when
we verbalize our issues out loud, we break down the barriers,
(31:26):
We improve the chances and likelihood of seeking the help
that we need when we're ready. So Encapsulator is my
biggest hustle. Brendan is I read that little note last time.
I'm going to post it. It was KFC. It's the
Colonel Santas right, it's got him, It's got Colonel Sanders
and says he pitched KFC one thousand and nine times
(31:48):
before success. You know, and I get quite emotional say
that because I'm not going to fucking give up man
like Encapsulator is going to be the top five mental health,
mental health and wellness apps in the world. I believe
I just haven't found the right connection yet, mate.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
And you know what, this is what life's about. And Danny,
this is why I wanted you on the cling because
your story is really moving and your action. You know,
it's not a verbal it's not a word. You don't
just get out there talking shit just to make an
earn and it's not about a gimmick. You fucking live
and breathe that one. You're going through it with your
daughter's mum. So once' Now that you're now the supporter
(32:27):
of somebody who's trying to better themselves through I will
say addiction methodons, addictives. God bless her and I wish
her all the very best. And you are now that
person that you needed. How awesome is that? But put
that aside. What you're giving is over and beyond expectations
(32:49):
because you're so passionate. You're so motivated and driven through
your own lived experience, which is something I love. I'm powerful.
It's look. I'm about to head to Townsville as a
guest in and organization's mentoring program in the second week
of March, and mate, I cannot wait. I'm going to
(33:11):
be going into the community working with all the troubled
youth up there, and I'm coming into a space where
they're trying to create prevention around the youth crime and
addiction up in Townsville, and they reached out to me.
It's been back and forth since before Christmas. It's now
locked in an official I'm going up there for four
days ago, right into the heart of it, and I
(33:32):
couldn't I could not be any proud of it, of
where I've come from and have somebody reach out to
me and ask me and validate my person because that,
to me shows whatever I'm doing here, like you just said,
it's having an impact. It's changing lives, it's making a difference,
and I'm fucking proud of that. You know, I've got
(33:54):
to juggle a few things to make it happen, but
we will. I'll do it and it'll be awesome. You know.
It's something that I really want people to start to
understand that you can.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
Oh, by the way, that's congratulations on that too. Isn't
it amazing the opportunities that come through sharing our stories.
That's what happened isn't it like people have been hearing
on the clink. They've very Brent Jinton. They're going to
fucking they want to let's get him up here to
help our young people. It's amazing. The opportunities are absolutely
(34:28):
limitless from doing what we do, So anyone who's thinking
about sharing their stories, I would encourage you to do
so because people need to hear it and those opportunities
are amazing. But what I was just going to say,
I say to everyone often is dream big. You know
you can do anything, and don't let the fear stop you.
Because for so long, heroine and it was really what
(34:51):
I was covering up with this fearm, and I was scared.
I was just this scared little boy who acted fucking tough,
but really, underneath it all, I just didn't know how
to live. Today, I've learned to live a life beyond
my older streams, and I would encourage everyone to be brave,
have some courage, dream big, gag because you can do anything,
which just reminds me of what you just said, Broan.
(35:12):
Congrats on that man.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
Yeah, look, as I said, you know, I'm very honored
and I've got a message from mel Big shout out, mel.
I know you're listening to this at some stage, but
she was saying, Brent, you know, like the kids have
just basically spammed your podcast. They're just you know, listening
to it. I'm going to all the truth, So I've
got to prepare myself for I'm sure a lot of
questions about different guests and over two hundred guests, and
(35:36):
as I say, five million downloads is literally a stone
throw away. So there's a bit bit behind the scenes
that I've got to go back and revise, and I'm
going to do a couple of podcasts up there because
I want to bring I want to bring what they're
doing to life, you know, I want I want the
world to know, and I feel that if I can
contribute back to the same I was one of those
(35:58):
young persons, you know, broken the system, in the system,
deep in the system, and it took me the best
part of you know, thirty odd years to pull my
head out of that. At forty nine, I'm very proud
of where I'm at, and life is not easy, and
this is something that we've just got to continue to
(36:19):
make sure that people understand it is a battle and
you are going to struggle. It's finding those those tools
through people like yourself, myself, and all the wonderful guests
that have been on How do we then embrace this
moment of we don't see the end of the fucking
tunnel and it's dark and I want to tap out,
you know, like I don't care. I'm so far in addiction.
(36:41):
Is a fuck about me? I look like shit now,
Like I've got no nutritional value within myself. I've got
no self reps of respect. I guess is the word Danny?
What's that advice would you give to that person? Because
I mean, you posted something the other day and it
(37:01):
was quite interesting because it showed the two types of Danny,
the Danny in addiction and the Danny today, you know,
the shoeless, the homeless looking guy, to the guy that's
just full of life energy and looks amazing, you know,
healthy and bouncing off the walls. You know, how do
you continue to try and network and making that a
(37:26):
reality for people? I mean, I get it, people have
got to want the want it themselves.
Speaker 5 (37:30):
But okay, well, Brent, great bro. I just want to say,
like I'm actually quite the introverted person. I just want
to share this because probably a lot of people out
there are like that as well, and they think that
you can't do this now. Even so it goes back
to this dream big like I know what I want.
I want to live a good life. I want to
give my family a good life too. So sometimes that
(37:52):
means I need to take little risks, you know. It
means I need to reach out. I need to say hey,
how you doing, put my hand out and say thank
you very much, let people know the positive impact that
they've had in my life. Now, by doing that, it
creates this energy like I always try to be the
better person in whatever situation I try to be. I'm
(38:12):
saying I get it right all the time. And what
that means is if somebody's looking grumpy or shitty or
pissed off, I just try and smile at them and
say hello, Hey, you going now? Brent. I know seems
far fast from what you're saying, but what that does
is it creates small talk, and small talk sometimes leads
to biggest stuff to you know. And the reason I
(38:33):
say I'm an introvert is I am I don't like
It's like I don't like people because that fears still
underneath me a lot, but my life and my daughter's life,
my family's life is more important. So I go outside
of my comfort zone. I go outside of my comfort zone.
And that's where they say growth happens out of the
(38:55):
comfort zone. And I do that every single day. Man.
So I would just again say to people, especially if
you're feeling down, sad like and you don't want to
be here anymore, I think they're probably the most important
person in the room. I often say, Brend my social media,
I do a lot of live streams as well, and
(39:16):
I often say that the most important person in the
room is that person that you can see in the
numbers in the viewers, but they're not saying anything. They're
not commenting. You know why they're not saying because they're
ashamed to comment and let other people see that they're
in there, or they're coming from some kind of domestic
violunce that they can't be seen to be engaging with
(39:36):
that stuff. Now, they are the most important people in
the room. And I've also seen that those people over
time will then reach out and say, Danny, You've been
watching you for years, you know you get this all
the time. I've been watching you for years. You've had
this much of an impact because if we can reach
those people, the most important people in the room, the
ones who aren't commenting and just watching in silence. I
(39:58):
just want to let you know that, yeah, that you
can do this, and all you need to do is
be brave, have some courage, each out. I answer every
single DM that I get. I might not answer it
straight away, but reach out because you will get an
audio response from me. And sometimes that's all that you
need is just to be validated and heard. Let somebody
(40:18):
know that somebody cares. So yeah, bro, I think that's
what i'd say to that.
Speaker 4 (40:25):
I really got to give you credit to. You know,
like when I first come across your pay and I
don't do TikTok because for me personally, I find it
way too toxic and I end up just I can't
tolerate the conversations and the actions of people. And I know, look,
it's not my burden to carry, but when it involves me,
it's not cool. But I have definitely skimmed across it
(40:48):
in the earliest stages to make that call. And you,
my friend, oh wow, talk about fucking and don't take
this the wrong way. But if you're fucking a clown
in a circus. Mate, you did the best clown in
the world because you're fucking funny. And the way that
you put the way that you put the facts, and
sometimes it's very painful what you talk about because it's
(41:10):
a reality check, but you're able to put it in
context that actually gives people a little bit of a
smack in the face, but at the same time a
little bit of humor on the back. But now, for
an introverted man, you do pretty good, brother, Brett.
Speaker 5 (41:24):
I truly am an introvert. One thing I've learned about
me is that person you see on social media it's
me one hundred percent, but it's like my ultra ego
or something. It's not the guy that you will see
talking the street. You never hear me talking recovery or
this or that to someone I just meet, you know.
But but do you know what, just just today, we've
(41:46):
hit one reel with eleven million views and it's exactly
that just me. I mean, yeah, there's a post going
off on my Facebook at the moment with eleven million views. Like,
just imagine the impact that's evened out there. There's eleven
million views, a hundred interactions. But it's just me with
(42:09):
some sound at the top, me in addiction, and then
me doing this bit of a dance, which is not
fucking me. Bro You will not find me dancing the street.
But the thing is, people go, look is that really him?
And now look at it now, like if I.
Speaker 4 (42:23):
Can set it in the street, Danny's in the street.
Speaker 5 (42:29):
My stories like what a beautiful Just have a go, man,
That's what I'm saying. That's the thing.
Speaker 4 (42:35):
But you've been able to connect through being that way
and breaking breaking breaking the cycle and engaging in conversation.
Now that to me right there is a massive win
because you're able to connect with people that you normally
wouldn't through you just being you. And I think that
that is really powerful, Broan, especially in what you're doing
(42:56):
in the space that you're in and the difference that
you're making. And look, I know that you know you're
you're back to back after this, so I'm going to
push push a and there is so much more to
you and your story. So forgive us if we've sort
of overshot anything here, because look, we can always have
Danny back on for a part to any hour of
any day. That's not a problem. But I want to
(43:18):
just focus a little bit more on, you know, the
successes that you're having today exactly and specific and how
people can reach out to you, and just I want
you to give us those two tools based around the
naysay and the hope, because I feel that you live
(43:38):
with hope and you've had a million naysayers write you off.
So how has Danny Shannon gotten to where he is?
And what advice would you give to others out there
in this space?
Speaker 5 (43:51):
Yeah? Again, I would just say to be brave, have courage,
you know, like I often have to remind myself, like
I really do with my heart, must say so somebody
hurt me. I'm not going to necessarily get on Facebook
and start telling people about but I'll tell you someone
because I don't like the bottom up thing. You know,
(44:12):
they say your secrets, keep your secret feelings, Like I
just try and express myself. I've become this quite I
don't day a man who's not afraid to tell the
truth and express my feelings. Be brave, have courage, reach
out to somebody and yeah and just yeah, man, like
(44:32):
we can do anything, bro, you know, I'd love just
for if anyone wants to know if they want to
reach out. There's two things that I love to share
with you, and I've already quickly. We're Encapsulated, which is
my app. Okay, it's an app with thirty plus programs,
So you can look up Encapsulator on the App Store
(44:55):
or on Android on Google Play, and there's some whole
bunch of freak programs and you can start to explore
your thoughts and feelings using our video technology to break
down the barriers, express yourself without any fear of judgment
in a private, confidential space. So that's number one. That's
my big that's my big dream. It's up here, it's
(45:17):
up on my wall, it's all over my house. It's
my manifestation for twenty twenty seven that you can see here.
And secondly, if anyone, I run two types of groups,
if anyone's on NDIS and you'd like to be supported
around our life skill development workshops. Basically, just to break
(45:38):
it down simply, all we do is bring people together
from all over Australia in an online space. There's nothing
too confronting. I'm not here to dig deep into your
trauma at all. That's not what I do. All I
do is I help you feel validated, I help you
feel heard, and I give you one tool to walk
away and live your best life for the day. And
(45:58):
to anyone who's not on NDIS. On a Wednesday night,
seven point thirty pm, I run my end Hour of Power.
It's another online group I'm where I teach very similar stuff.
It's cheap as chips. Reach out to me under Danny Shannon.
You'll find me on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, LinkedIn any other
platform that's out there. I've been verified on all platforms,
(46:22):
which is a real incredible.
Speaker 4 (46:23):
I say, you know you don't pay for your blue teeth.
Speaker 5 (46:25):
No, I don't pay for the bluetick. That's right, Brian deal, Yeah,
there's true. People don't even know that. Actually, once upon
a time he used to be able to get verified
by these platforms just for your you know, the writary apparently.
So yeah, I never paid for a blue tick made up.
Speaker 4 (46:42):
I've been rejected every time I try to get it.
In the end, I just go fuck it. I can't
be bothered. I am who I am, and if you
don't believe me, then if you want to be if
you want to beat me, go for it, because I
can tell you there's a lot that you don't want
to be.
Speaker 5 (46:53):
Yeah, true. If you just reach out to me on
Danny Shannon with the bluetick, make sure you get them
und the bluetick because there is a couple of impostors
out there. He might not be as nice as me.
Just reach out, send me a DM the best platform
to get me on Instagram or Messenger, Facebook Messenger and
I respond to every message. Encapsulators on that app store
(47:16):
on Google Play download that have a crack reach out
to me and yeah, man, dream big.
Speaker 4 (47:22):
You can do anything, and you know what I want
to take you and just thank you. I want to
say to you, mate, please allow us to have another
episode with you when you have a little bit more time.
You're an absolute legend for everybody out there. This is
Denny Shannon and I'm grateful to have just a small
piece of your time today. Thank you, Welcome to the
(47:42):
Clink and now goodbye from the Clinkleskay, thank you everybody
who was tuned in today. Shorter one very informative with
a wonderful man. He's giving you all the details there.
We'll also add that in thank you to Sideway, Surf
and Pod shape and to you, the listener that continues
to turn up each week, From me to you for
the best you.
Speaker 1 (48:00):
Can do for the Rocket.
Speaker 2 (48:03):
Don't try and make you uncomfortable for the record. You
ain't trying to grow downy stuff for your.
Speaker 1 (48:08):
Pride for the record.
Speaker 2 (48:09):
Live on me going all the way for the record.
Speaker 1 (48:12):
Ain't trying to link, No, trying to wait.
Speaker 3 (48:14):
Stop all that for the record, for the record. H
for the for the record, for the record. Yeah, for
the record, for the record.
Speaker 5 (48:37):
Mm hmmmm hm
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