February 3, 2025 • 55 mins
Iggy McGowan is a mindset mentor who provides individuals with the knowledge, principles, and tools they need to regain control of their minds.
In Part 2 with pick back up after Iggy shared how his mother saved him from taking his own life
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
H approach production.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
For the record.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
I'm done trying to make you all comfortable for the record.
You ain't trying to grow downer stuff for your fort
the record, laugh on me going all the way for
the record. Ain't trying to link, No, trying to waste
for the record.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
For the record, for the for the record, for the red,
for the record, record for the record.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
I'm done trying to make you all comfortable.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Right, Welcome back to the Clink and Possible Brand's chat
with McGall pick back up where we left off.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
We think he's sharing how his mother helped stop him
from taking his own life. That's a long journey. Yeah,
that's a really really long journey, brother, that's yeah. Wow.
Well I'm sorry, I'm a little bit huh. I've never
had that relationship with a mum, so I can only
take on how your mum would feel. Why. I've never
(01:22):
had my mom, So for me, it's just that's life.
But I've always appreciated every one of my mates mums.
And to hear you speak in that way and then
know that you know, it's just yeah, it's just not
me for six you know, like, wow, what a blessing
to a Mum's still here today.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Mummy is still here. Yeah, absolutely. Mum's one of my
greatest beautiful, one of my greatest teachers, and one of
my greatest examples. And I asked her a couple of
days later, I said, why did you ask that that night?
Why did you ask? And she said the night that
it happened then, when I was gassing myself. She said
(02:08):
she was in her office working and she had the
sickest feeling come over it, and that she burst out
into laundroom and said to my dad, we need to
get iggy homes. Something is wrong. And that's where that started. Now,
if if Mum had called, it would have been a
different outcome, if any of that had played out differently
(02:30):
from how it did. If it wasn't Dad, if he'd
called off his phone, I wouldn't have answered. If anyone
else had called, I wouldn't have answered. So there was
really a like a divine intervention if with how it
all unfolded. And I'm grateful to still be here. I'm
grateful to have that sort of support that so many
(02:52):
people don't have. And so and I'm grateful that I
made that promise also to my mum because obviously that
that was a turning point in my life. Now, that said,
just because I said I wasn't going to kill myself
doesn't mean I stopped living in a way that was
tempting fate. That was still absolutely there. Now, my focus
(03:16):
was on getting back into the ring, because again I
knew that right, if I'm back in the ring, things
are on track. However, yeah, because I was still involved
in these other activities and I was close to getting
back into the ring, and then my other knee went.
(03:37):
My other knee was dislocated in a street altercation. I
was out one night and there'd been a bit of
a scuffle with a couple of guys and then it
had been broken up, and security had asked me to
sit down on this bench seat outside of cabab shop.
They're like, settle down, Niggy settled down, and I was like,
I'm fine, having a good night. There's these guards all around,
(04:01):
and then they've let through one of these guys who
started king hitting me while I was sitting down talking
to the security guard. So I jumped to my feet
and I went to pivot, but because the bench sheet
was behind me, all my body weight went to pivot
bang dissicated my good knee. I just fell to the
ground and I couldn't care less about, you know, the
(04:25):
guy trying to punch me, and then some other individuals
ran over trying to kick me in the head. But
to me, I was just on the ground, and I
immediately knew what was ahead of me. I knew that
straight away. I was like, I just knew that I'm
going to have to have that knee reconstructed. I'm going
to have to rebuild over a twelve month period before
(04:46):
I can get back to doing what I love, which
is fighting.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
So I did that, had that operation, and did that rebuild,
and did make it back to being in the ring.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
What you know, like when you sit there and you
sort of ponder on the chances of that actually happening
to them. Now knowing that that is what took place,
it was really slim for you, wasn't it really to
get through that twelve months in that rehab if you
had not I guess committed to chasing what was passionate
(05:23):
to you your more time, because it would have been
so easy to get the other way, Like, I.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Mean absolutely, and I guess having been through a knee
reconstruction before and also with the work that I had
been doing around psychology and to do with the mind.
I then had a different attitude with the second reconstruction,
where the first one I hated the fact that I
(05:52):
was stopped still in a full leg brace, not being
able to be active how I wanted to. But I
changed my attitude for the second one, and I thought,
you know what, that's it. I'm going to use this
as a time that I cantion my mind. I'm going
to go through this experience differently with the focus on
being able to get back into the ring. So I went,
(06:14):
I approached it differently, and sure enough, I got it
strong again. And then I just went back to boxing
because I didn't feel confident yet with pivoting and kicking.
So I just went back to boxing, but then turned
pro because I was getting in trouble from the judges
(06:36):
in boxing that'd have a go at my trainer, not Jason,
but Peter Blake. He was a boxing trainer. They'd have
a goal with him after fights and say he shouldn't
be knocking people out, he shouldn't be going in and
trying to knock people out, And Blakie would say but
that's his style. What do you mean. They're like, no,
but this is the amateurs shouldn't be going in there
(06:59):
trying to knock people out. And it was funny because
it's like, come on, it's fighting, it's boxing. So then
we just turned pro and that was great. I enjoyed it.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
I mean, that's like the old saying, never leave it
to the judges. Knocked them out exactly, that's what it's
about it.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
That's exactly. But did that and did well for a
few guys in the top ten and had some wins.
That was great, But ultimately my passion was always muy Thai,
so I was keen to to get back to muy Thai.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Yeah, you spent time when you talk about muy Thai,
and just for our listeners out there, I don't think
too many of men could have gone the distance and
the time that you spent with one of the most
legal men within that sport, multiple multiple world champion, and
they think car that he's just this this man, if
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you don't know him, he's a very dangerous human being.
And I don't care who says what this is fact
his ability, his mind said, he's deliverance of power in
if you're watching Train and Delivery seminars, now he just
you go, what the fuck's he doing bashing people? He's not,
That's just that's him. So you know, like putting your perspective.
And I really want to talk about this for a moment,
(08:19):
because you go from basically the double knee surgery to
being number one sparring partner and you know, close mates
with one of the most lethal men in that stays
on the planet.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Yeah, look absolutely so. And then just before we get
to that part, so because it wasn't straight after these
boxing fights that then that happened, There was a bit
in between, and that in between were some really significant things.
So even though I was back in the ring and boxing,
I still had some court cases going on in the
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background because of the dealings in the other world. And
one of those cases was a grievous bodily harm with
intent charge and that case went on for about two
and a half years, so the possibility looking at maybe
seven years on the top, maybe three on the bottom.
And during that time, Jason actually died. Jason passed away.
(09:19):
He actually killed himself. He shot himself in the head
in the back of a cop car. He was he
was arrested one night. They didn't search him, which was ridiculous.
He's seeing as though the record that he had and
he had a peace on him. He'd always said that
he would never go back inside after doing time. He
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said that it just was a waste of time and
that he wouldn't do it. And when they got him
down to the station, they went to open up the
back of the wagon and he he pulled out gunny.
He shot himself. I remember getting the phone call the
next morning from his mother and that was that was
my first real dealings with death was at that time,
(10:03):
to have that my old brother figure train our best friend,
to have him kill himself. I went back for the
funeral and was there for that. So between that and
this court case going on, I did a lot of reflecting.
It was I was asking a lot of questions within
(10:27):
myself and I thought, you know what, I really need
to just leave this old life behind. I really just
need to be done with it and just have my
full focus on training, being healthy and fighting. That was
my main focus. But I knew I had to make
(10:49):
this decision to no longer be involved in that scene
in that world. And I was reflecting on my life
up until that point and purpose now. To me, as
allusional as it might sound, I always thought I was
(11:09):
doing the doing a good deed, doing a good thing
with some of the activities I was involved in. I'd
always been drawn to the warrior spirit, warrior philosophy of
protecting the vulnerable, and to me, I was doing that
in the criminal world. I was looking out for more
vulnerable people and I was dishing out a bit of
(11:32):
poetic justice as well to some of the bullies. So
but at this time, I thought there must be another way,
There must be a better way for me to contribute,
for me to be able to make an impact. And
I know that might sound crazy, but not at all.
That was That was what I came to at that time,
(11:53):
And I thought, Okay, I'd always been training people also,
so from the age of sixteen, I'd always trained people.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Can I sorry, Yeah, forgive me? Can you forgive me
to cut in like I did? And it's no disrespect,
It's just when it's something hits me in the brain,
I feel that it's necessary it was to be said,
So I just I can't help it at the moment,
just processing what you just said. In reference to losing
(12:20):
your brother who took his life, a man you are
literally loved, adored, who saved your life predominantly from your
darkest moments. You talk about mum, that phone call and
how it would have just destroyed mum had you not
been here today. How did you feel? And I don't
(12:43):
want to sound like a dickhead by asking how did
you feel? I'm asking knowing that you possibly could have
left your mum behind and others that do truly love
you and you could have been the one that was
getting buried. Did it have an impact on your whole
way of thinking and suicideality? Realize eating two thoughts of
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after this occurring and you're experiencing such a close death.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Yeah, definitely, Yeah, definitely. How did I feel? I was devastated.
I was devastated. It was the one person that truly
understood me, the one person that I felt, yeah, the
deepest connection with. So I was devastated. And to see
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the impact that it had on his mother, on Jason's
mother for example, was yeah, I mean it destroyed her.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
So then you're looking in the mirror realizing that could
have well been Iggy's mum. That's that's a tough pill
to swallow, brother, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Yep? It was definitely definitely a big wake up call,
that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Yeah, And I feel that for anybody out there that's
contemplating and hence me asking the question because I want
to show the vulnerability of you right now and the
reality because you are a strong man, you are a warrior,
and you didn't think twice about gassing yourself that night.
Had you not had that call, you know, you would
have given a life sentence to those that are left behind.
(14:27):
And that's the way I express it is we leave
a life sentence behind for those that do love us
and care, And for anybody out there at the moment
that's struggling or triggered by anything that we're talking about,
please reach out and know that it's a short term problem.
It's not a long term problem, but the solution by
taking suicide as an option is a long term problem
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for everyone else.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Absolutely, And one of my biggest realizations with it was
what I was really wanting when I contemplated it, when
I attempted, I was wanting was for how I was
experiencing life to end because of it was a shocking experience.
(15:13):
It was miserable. And I've been fortunate enough to walk
many other people through my work who are at that
place and have been at that place. I've been able
to guide them to a position of strength and empowerment
where they have control over themselves with this understanding that
you're not actually wanting your life to end, You're wanting
(15:33):
your experience of life to end. But there is another way. Yeah,
there is another way, and that it comes down to
transforming your perception. It's our thoughts that create how we feel.
So ultimately what has to change is how we are
experiencing life. And I think that that was a really
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defining moment for me, and a really key understanding was
that that this Once I take control over my mind
and I changed that, then my whole experience of life changes.
So really the death that needs to happen isn't this
physical death, but it's a death of consciousness, a death
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and a rebirth, a death of old ideas, limited ways
of seeing life, and the rebirth of a powerful perception.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Yeah. Well well said, And look I have to agree.
I think that it's from my own journey and experience,
which most people are aware of it. I'm still going
through you know, like it's a it's a daily thing
of do you wake up and you know, say I
can't do this no more, don't want to be absolutely
these days. Absolutely, But you know, I live by a
(16:46):
motto be the best you can be, and I try
them proudly and instill that into my children's people I
connect with. Yeah, I'm a little bit wild at times,
and you know, very real and outspoken and you know,
what are you going to fucking change? And I love
being that person and I love being able to give
and help and support. And that's because I'm living now.
(17:09):
I'm here with you right now. I'm smiling right now.
Whatever's going to happen just down the road, with whatever's happening. Fuck,
I've got no control over that. It can't I can't
do anything about it. What it can do now is
be the best I can be, even in my worst times,
you know, and I feel that. You know, if we're
able to give people tools once again, I use that
(17:30):
word tools because it is a toolbox that if we
can utilize and they have beside us and in those moments,
what do we learn from these experiences? What then becomes
a lesson which then we can implement in our lives
as a tool to better ourselves. So next time we
ever feel that we're falling, we're going down, we know
that we're going I mean, living with Type two bipolo,
I don't take medication for it, but I embrace it
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because it makes me amazing. There's things that I do
and can do that most people won't and can't. And
I know we try not to use that language that
can't want and all that, but I'm being realistic, like
I know, I challenge most forty nine year old one
hundred and ten men. They going to even some of
the things that I'm mentally able to push myself to do.
(18:15):
It is an embracement of life that that is like,
this is what I've got, and how am I going
to make the best of what I have?
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Yeah? Absolutely, And I really love that. You know, it's
powerful because it comes down to choice. You know, this
gift of choice. You know, what is this going to
mean to me? It's one of the things when I'm
working with people that have been through extreme trauma and
situations like, look, we can't change what's happened, what has happened,
(18:48):
it happened, but we can absolutely change what it means
to you. Now, it doesn't have to define you. So
many people feel like they are their past or they
are their story, and there's this clinging to an identity unconsciously,
but it keeps people trapped. This is what I always do,
This is just who I am. This always happens to me.
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It's so limited, but it keeps people stuck there. So
when you realize I can change at any time, I
can transform myself. I can recreate myself. I can allow
the old to die and fall away. I don't have
to be defined by things that have happened. I can
change right here and now in the only place that
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change can happen, and that's in the present moment. Now
I know that with myself, it was I'd made that
choice to leave the old life behind and that's when
I started to train with Nathan Corbett. That's it. I'll
move to the Gold Coast and get back into the ring.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Was that more of a challenge that for you? Because
I look at that and I think that's just fucking ludicrous.
He was in his absolute crime and you're putting yourself
literally in a death situation. Look, I know it's well, hey,
one hit and it could have gone south. But my
point being is you know like fit strong all that mentally,
you know what your ability and dealt with and what
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Jason had guided you and taught you, which was probably
what got you in there and around Nathan in the end.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
But mate, yeah, come on, like look to.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
But there's there's there's a you just a little bit tapped.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Well to me. To me, it was perfect because I
got online and had to look.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
I was.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
I was in near Yamber and yeah, I still I
wasn't allowed to leave the state at that time. However,
you know, it was the tail end of this case,
and it was. But I was really keen to be
training and sparring properly, and I was. I knew that
as soon as that case was finished, if I was
still out that I would I'd move to the Gold Coast.
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So I was sneaking across the border on weekends to
go into Urban Fight Gym to train. And so I'd
come up and I'd go and I'd think this is awesome,
Like I used to. This is the funny part. I
used to sit in the car park before going into
SPA and you can just hear Nathan training inside. You
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can hear him He's like an absolute animal. You hear
him hitting pads right and exactly. And I was sitting
in the car and before going into SPA with him,
I'd watch I had this favorite highlight clip of his
which was like when for about four minutes fifty and
it had that I'm going to knock you out. Yeah,
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I'd watch it and it was amazing, these highlights of
all of his elbow. I'd be watching that to get
to get ready, and then I'd go in and get
in the ring with him and bang on and it
was it was awesome, but I loved it, and so
to me, because I came up the way that I did,
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that was normal to me. Like I'd get in the
ring with him. Over the first six months, I'd get
dropped every time we sparred, because if anyone knows Nathan,
Nathan spars one way and that's last fight. There is
one one pace and it's it's amazing to watch, and
it's amazing to even be on the receiveing end. He
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would dropped me some sessions. I'd go outside, I'd spew
up on the grass and then I'd come back in,
climb back into the ring and he'd look at me
and go, what are you doing? I said, let's go.
He's like, you're done. I'm like, no, let's go. And
he'd looked at me like I was a bit of
a sicko anyway. But when you when you take on
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and work with someone so great, you're only going to
get better. And that was the thing. Like after after
six months it went from getting dropped every session to
maybe every third session I'd get dropped. Then after a
year it things evened out, which was it was great.
Some nights I'd go home can cuss. Some nights he would.
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Some nights we'd both go home concussed. I remember times
where I'd get home and I'd call him and be like, hey,
you going. He's like, I've been sitting staring at my
dinner for the last two hours. My girlfriend, my girlfriend
thinks there's something wrong with me. But like it was.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
He was processing the whole the whole afternoon and smarring
and training.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
With you concussion all right, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, there'd
be that big a hits. I remember I was a
week out from a fight.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
And you're quite short and near to him, aren't you.
Like if you put the two of you standing in
front of each other. You're a very well designed human.
Let's not be silly here. You know, yeah, he's a
he's a big thick beast like he's power. Just that,
you know, like putting the perspective. And I love talking
(23:58):
about this when it comes to you. Is that right there?
Just shows who you are as a man. And I'm
not talking about the toughness, but just mentally what you're
able to help others with through your only big I
dare anybody to put somebody else in front of me
that's done what you've done in that respect, I don't
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think you will find a consistent person turning up as
you did for that period of time.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
It's just well about That's what I mean about welcoming
the opportunity. Like so to me, I thought, why are
there not other people that are wanting to do this
with him? Because no one wanted to spar him. He
would he could never keep a sparring partner because it
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was this one pace and people would winge and that
I would think, what are you winging about? Like this
is you are not going to get any better than this,
Like it's every session is like a fight. And look
and I get that, you know, is it good long term?
And you know that people, but fuck to me, whatever,
go with me. It's you can't you cannot get the
(25:09):
mental conditioning and you can't. So each to their own.
But to me to do that with Nathan and have
those years with him, I mean, there is not another
one like him. He is incredible and his movement, everything
about it is just like I'd never tire of watching it.
He could put up every week, he could put up
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some of his old fights and I would continually watch them.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
I mean, you've only got to watch his page now.
Like I mean, a big shout out to Nathan if
you hear this. He's still in the States, is he.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Yeah, he is, Like he's just.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
I don't want to be rude, but he's very violent
even in his like education. Yeah. You watch these poor
bastards step up. They just the fucking look on their
faces as they're putting their hands up. He's showing a
three three piece komba or four pits and you just go, oh.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Yeah, the speed and the liver, the accuracy of everybody.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
It's like, okay, all right, but that's that's why he
is who he is and why he is the waves
and you know you're to me like that, like that
mirror image. Obviously you're Iggy McGowan, but you know, like wow,
you know where your mental state in life is and
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your ability and knowing who you are. That's right there.
Sums it up for me. You know, that is just
some scary stuff. That was.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Yeah, look that was excellence. That was you know, when
just getting back into moy Thai, having left the old
life behind. And then I had a phone call one
night before this is before I moved to the Gold Coast,
so that was when just coming up on weekends and
I had a phone call from my older sister Tess
one night. I'd been working in a gym down there
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near y Amber and I just got home and I
knew that there was some bad news. I could just
tell with Mum and dad the energy in the place.
I got on the phone to Test and she said, ah, Iggy,
I've been diagnosed with melanoma. I've been diagnosed as it's terminal.
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They said I've only got months to live. And I
was I was distraught. You know, we knew that there
was Tested had a mole cut off her back. She
was pregnant at the time and she had a mole
in between her shoulder blade. It was only small, and
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she always had her skin checked. She never would go
out in the sun, but she had it checked one
time during the pregnancy and they said, we don't like
the look of this, so they cut it out. They
called her back in the next day and they said,
we really don't like this. They took out a big
horseshoe shape, took out all her lymph nodes under one arm,
half lymphans of them, and they said, we think we've
(28:08):
got it all, but there's one more test that we
can do, but it might interfere with the fetus. And
she said, well, I don't want to interfere with the fetus.
And they said that's okay. We can do it once
you give birth. We're ninety nine percent sure that we've
got everything, that it's all good. She gave birth to
my niece Mabel, and the next day they did this test.
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They put the dye in through the body and it
just lit up like a Christmas tree, every major organ
of bones, everything, And that's when I got that call
from test to say that it was terminal and only
months to live, and so I dropped everything and I
moved down to Sydney with family to be around Tests
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and to nurse her leading up to her passing. Was
down there for a nine month period. I didn't want
to leave Testa's side, so I just said that's it.
I'm here no matter what, I'm not going anywhere. So
went from being in hospital to then into palliative care,
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and Tess was Tess was like a saint. Tess was
the most beautiful person. She was always so nurturing, always
so considerate of other people. Growing up, Tess is the
second eldest, so played a massive role in raising the
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younger kids. It just came naturally to her, that motherly nature.
And she'd always wanted to She'd always just really wanted
to have a child and be a mum. So she
met a lovely guy, Victor, and then that's when she
was pregnant got diagnosed. So it was a massive and
(30:00):
if people ask me about a turning point in my life,
I know I've mentioned a few, but this was the
solidifying line. This is when I made a choice. And
so nurse Tests in that time and just saw a
stripped bear of all the things that she loved. I
(30:22):
saw test go from being able to nurse Mabel. I
remember we had a six month birthday party for Mabel
because we knew the Test wasn't going to be around
for her first If Mabel was upset. It got to
a point where Test wasn't able to nurse her anymore,
she didn't have the strength. Just seeing her deteriorate, and
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the hours and hours and days of horrific pain where
the tumors and things are getting bigger, pushing on the
spinal cord, pushing on nerves to them not being able
to walk, seeing all these things happen, and the torment
in my own mind, arguing what was happening. I would
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be there night after night after night, trying to will
myself to be able to change places with tests and
trust me, you can't do it. If anyone could, I
would have done it. I put in a lot of effort,
but you simply can't. And to then one day I
went for a walk to get some fresh air. I
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was in front of Bondi Beach. I was walking along
just thinking, why the fuck am I still here? Why
am I still here? Like I don't even want to
be here, and Tess's life has been taken from her.
Why am I still here, and I had this epiphany.
It's the only way I could describe it is I
(31:51):
just had this message that you're here to be a leader,
You're here to guide people. And it was because I've
walked these predict these LIFs that have predictable endings. That
was the mess that came to me in an instant,
that I was here to be a leader. Then my
mind came back in and was like, who am I
(32:12):
meant to lead? So I quickly forgot about that, kept
focusing on tests, and as it got toward the end,
about a week before tests passed, she said that she
wanted to ask something of people. So we all gathered
in the room around Tess's bed and everyone said, what
is it? Test? What is it? She said, I want
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to ask you all something. Everyone's like anything anything.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Tests.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
She said, I want to ask you to look after
each other. And everyone said, of course, of course, yes, yep,
of course tests. And she said, and the second thing
is I want you to look after yourselves. Everyone said,
of course, of course yes. Tests. And now I walked
out of there. Breton, I thought, this is my sister's
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dying wish. I'm going to honor her dying wish, and
I sat with it, and I thought, look after each other. Well,
I can only be in one place at a time.
Maybe I'll start with the second part, look after yourself.
I thought, that's it. From this moment forward, I'm going
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to be completely self sufficient. I'm going to be balanced.
I'm going to be one hundred percent self sufficient, and
so I put all of my focus to that. Once
test passed, my full focus was on honoring test as
dying wish. So I was all about just being balanced
and having self rule. I was fortunate enough to come
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across a great teacher who was able to pass on
principles and practices from an esoteric tradition and really help
me refine everything that I've learned over the years around
the mind and transformation and operate from those principles to
this day. But that was my focus, and that was
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what I chose to take from Tessa's death. I chose
to take it as well. I am still here, what's
this going to mean to me? Is it going to
be the end? Is it going to be the worst
thing ever? Am I going to use it as an
excuse to fall in a heap? And I decided no,
that that's it. I'm here. This is a gift. I'm
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going to live every day to the full. I'm going
to be the best I can possibly be in honor
of Tessa's life and in honor of Tessa's death, that
no matter what, I'm here to live fully every day
like a celebration, and that that is the greatest gift
that I can give to Tessa's spirit.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Other I just want to thank you right now for
your vulnerability and opening up and sharing is because that's
that's time that's very powerful and just for me personally,
I see you post some things on your page with
(35:17):
your beautiful niece, and I've just my heart's full watching
his dance sing, and I just I always I don't know,
I just had this. I just went, Wow, what a
cool uncle, What a cool uncle. I just every time
I see these little moments that you have shared, and
I know I can see and read how close that
(35:37):
you are now it makes absolutely million percent sense. But
you know those beautiful little moments that you share together,
and just me be me, you would just go what
a great uncle, what a cool uncle, with no knowledge
of how in depth. So for me hearing you now
open up and share this, that little thing that I've
(35:59):
always sort of been observant of has just made complete
sense and my heart's full, and yeah, I just I'm
a bit struck mate, to be honest.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
With no thanks brother, Look, look I'm grateful. I thank
you for creating this opportunity. And I know I skipped
over that part of the story. It was obviously one
of the if not the most monumental thing in my life.
You know, was was that period that was? It was
(36:29):
one of the most meaningful experiences. And an interesting thing
is sometimes if people asked me the question, what's the
most beautiful thing I've ever seen, and my answer is
always my sister's dad, And some people find that really strange.
But what I mean by that is it was the
(36:49):
most powerful, the most beautiful thing I've ever seen. It
was the most impactful thing I've ever seen. And why
is because Test died beautiful. Test was so selfless, She
conducted herself, carried herself with grace right through to the end,
(37:09):
the whole time when being stripped bare of the things
that she loved, being able to nurse her own daughter,
not being able to walk everything, no matter what, Test's
focus was on other people, everyone else, not once did
she complain. And I was with her every day, not
once when she had every reason to say this is unfair,
(37:32):
this is awful. Nothing, absolute grace, And I'll give you
an example. There could be and there often were days
on end where no amount of morphine, no amount of
breakthroughs and pain medication, it wouldn't touch the sides of
the pain that test was going through. So it would
be in there trying to get tests to do some breathing,
(37:55):
trying to get her to do some different meditations just
to try and get through the pain. And then it
seemed like Tess was getting some sleep after days and
her eyes would be closed. She'd be laying there and
I'd think, finally she's getting a bit of rest. So
I'd go to leave the room, and as I got
(38:15):
near the door, i'd hear a soft voice say I
and I'd go back over to her and I'd say,
what is it, Test?
Speaker 1 (38:25):
What is it?
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Do you want me to call the nurse? And she'd
say her eyes closed? Are you okay? She'd ask if
I was okay, and I'd say if I am test Test,
please please get some rest, please, and she'd say okay,
and I'd give her a kiss on her forehead and
(38:46):
then she would sleep like that gives me goosebumps right now.
You know that to be that selfless, to still have
that sort of awareness there for someone else and how
they're experiencing things.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
Oh god, I really do.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
So. I'm grateful for the examples that I've had in
my life. I've been very fortunate to have.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
It's almost like she's gifted you this opportunity at being
your best version of you. You know, I like, and
she's and I please, I'm not minings in any other way,
but with love, She's sacrificed her own hardship and pain
to ask the best version of you and also obviously
your family members, but for you that we're talking about
right now, you know, and I can't help it. Go
(39:36):
back and think, had you have succeeded that night or
any other time, how broken that beautiful sister of yours
would have been losing her brother.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
You know, like, wow, Look, I'm grateful for it all,
every single bit of my story, the bits that I've
mentioned and the things that we haven't had a chance
to I'm grateful for it all because it has shaped
the man that I am, and ultimately it's I've chosen
for it to mean. And that's what it really comes
(40:09):
down to, is accepting responsibility and choosing, Okay, what is
this going to mean to me? And what am I
going to do with it? And to me, it's that
epiphany that I had in front of Bond Diabetes during
Tessa's death, that here to be a leader, here to
be an example. You know that my life is the teaching.
I'm here because yep, I've walked these different I've lived
(40:32):
these different lives. I've walked the path and I've come
out the other side, and I'm here to show people
you can do it too. That I'm not special, that
anything I've been able to overcome, anything I've been able
to face, that you can do it too. If you
accept responsibility and you commit to change, you can turn
(40:56):
everything around. You can make things better. And so that
is my work today. And now I'm fortunate enough to
work with people of all walks of life, from mums
and dads to teens, kids, corporate groups, CEOs, business people,
people that have addiction, people that are suicidal, anxiety, depression, abuse,
(41:21):
you name it, and I love it all because being
able to be that support for someone that guide for
someone to help guide people to complete power within themselves.
That's all I was ever craving my whole life. I
was wanting to be free from the dependency on things
outside of me, free from and that's what I stopped
(41:43):
after Tessa's death. Drugs, alcohol, sugar, you name it. Stopped
everything completely. And I've been that way for twelve thirteen,
nearly fourteen years now, and I came to balance.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
This is the secret to why you've got such myself body.
You ripped up machine here. There's not a wrinkle. There's
not a wrinkle in you. The color in your skin
is so beautiful and glowing. I'd like to know what
men's products you And when you take that shirt, Holy
Tom Dooley, you're.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
That's a that's a byproduct of living.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
This way, you know, that's this is when it all
shifts into this amazing human.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
That's it. But I guess, well, it's reflective, isn't it?
And I know that I'm not. I'm not saying everything
you said was true, but legend so funny, so funny. Look,
it's but to be healthy, to be well, to be balanced,
was everything I ever wanted. And that's why when people
(42:50):
see the way that I eat. For example, I made
a very particular diet. I don't eat any rubbish, and
people will say, come on, why don't you have a
cheap meal or whatever, And it's I don't need a
break from feeling great like I love being balanced. I'm
I'm healthy, my mind is sharp and clear. I know
how I'm going to feel. I have great energy, great focus.
(43:12):
You know, from someone that was once given all these
different diagnosis and medications for things, to be able to
get off all of that and heal myself and have
complete control over myself is the most liberating, most empowering
thing ever. It was all I ever wanted, all the
self medicating through the different the different acts and different
(43:36):
things I would do to finally come to this place
of peace within myself, to be able to cultivate presence,
to be able to move through and make my days
of meditation. Yes, I have my formal practices of things,
my daily rituals, but ultimately it's about being able to
make the day into a meditation. And that's what I
(43:58):
love teaching and sharing with people and helping people to
come to that place of peace, no matter whether there
as I said, no matter what walk of life they're
coming from, no matter what age they are, to be
able to have that control over themselves and understand that
they are the creator of their life and how how
(44:19):
to do that, meaning how to actually with intention consciously
create who it is that you wish to be in
the world and how you would like to be able
to present to the world and interact with life.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
Yeah. I love that and it's having a massive impact
on a lot of people's lives. And look, I think,
you know, for anybody out there that's looking for that edge,
you know, and I'm going to ask you to give
his contacts because you're talking to somebody who is authentic,
has lived as we've just heard through. You know, I
(44:54):
don't know what much more you could live through to
be where you are and do what you do like
it's yeah, it's it's life. It's a real life, and
you're here today because of those experiences. For anybody out
there that's looking to reach out, where can we find you?
Speaker 2 (45:14):
Yeah, for sure, So people can reach out through my
socials at Iggy McGowan on Instagram or Facebook or my
website Iggy McGowan dot com. I'd love to hear from anyone. Yeah,
I feel free to shoot me a DM. But any
inquiries or even if anyone in your audience that watches this,
I'd love to hear your feedback, reach out. It's just
(45:38):
great to know that things can have an impact on
people if you can relate. Yeah, shoot me a message.
Speaker 1 (45:45):
Yeah, I love that. And look, I can vouch as
I said in earlier in the chat, there's definitely been
times there where I've chosen to make a call and
reach out to Egy, whether it be a short conversation,
a few words or long. You know, it's always been
something that's been relevant and has stuck up here. And
you know, for anybody who, as we said earlier, that
(46:08):
may feel that there is no other option, there definitely is.
And we hope that this journey of you being here
today and listening to Iggy's story and being a part
of what we deliver through the Clink gives you hope
and gives you inspiration to know that there are great tools.
I'm going to ask you and before we we we
do sum this up, because it's been an amazing chat
(46:30):
and our feel that we could really go in so
much longer. I'd love to be able to from our chat,
leave two powerful tools for our guests. Because you are
episode one of season seventeen, and I'm so honored to
still be here. It's like a lifetime in the podcasting industry.
So you know, we're aiming for five million downloads very soon,
(46:52):
and you know, to have you leading from the front
as you do. But also to season seventeen, let's give
too wonderful tools that you live by.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
Okay, excellent. To start with something very simple, and that
is the statement to yourself, I am responsible. It's a
mental stance I am responsible because it's only when we
accept responsibility that we are then stepping into the driver's seat,
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that we're actually accepting that we are the creators of
our life. And so when you make a statement to yourself,
I am responsible and you condition yourself in that way,
what you're doing is you're accepting your power responsibility. So
many people they dismiss responsibility. They don't want to accept
(47:46):
any responsibility for their life and how their life looks.
And that's a victim that's what people look. It's a
victim mindset. Whereas when you state to yourself the truth,
which is I am responsible, that means I have the
ability to respond. It means it's not what's happening that
creates how I feel. It's my response to what is happening.
(48:10):
I am able to respond powerful to this. What's this
going to mean to me? Okay, I'm going to look
at it and I'm going to see the advantage. I'm
going to see the opportunity. I'm going to respond in strength.
I am responsible. That's a mental stance. Every day I
begin my day out on my balcony or wherever I
am in posture and breath. I align my body in
(48:32):
a particular posture and connect with my breath. Once I've
done that, I then say to myself, I am responsible.
I create my day, and it is this mental stance
to say, as I move through the day, I choose
how I respond. So it's not life that determines how
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I feel. It's not the challenge, it's not other people,
it's me. I'm in the position of power. So that's
the first tool. I am responsible, and the second is
a ritual of reflection and correction. So one thing that
I get anyone that I work with it obviously everything
I teach, I live myself. I have a meeting with
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myself every day, I'll have a meeting with myself the
same as I would with a client, where I sit
and I look within myself, I go okay. So to
reflect is to bring awareness to things. That's what conscious
living is. If you're not bringing awareness to why you're
doing what you're doing, why you're thinking, what you're thinking,
(49:38):
then you're just going through life on autopilot, constantly reacting
to things, giving your power away doing things just because
that's what you've always done. So I have this daily
ritual where I will reflect. It's always great to write
it down as well. If you can have a book
to actually write things down, it makes it tangible. Then
(49:59):
you can actually see what you've been thinking. So some
simple questions ask yourself when you do this. Brett's got
his book there.
Speaker 1 (50:10):
Properly, and this is given an ownership of the fact
that this book is in my hands. I am presenting
it to you, and I am going to make a
conscious to write each day in this book after this day.
Thank you very much, Iggy.
Speaker 2 (50:25):
I'm glad you've got it there. That's great. This is
the nudge that you've needed. And this is the thing
is like, is when you make this commitment and so
I'll have some people that will say to me, really
every day, I'm like, yes, every day. We're talking about
the very thing that creates your life, the very thing
that creates your emotions. And people they're looking at it
(50:46):
like it's a chore. This isn't a chore. It's a gift.
You get to actually create how you want to feel
and what actions you're going to take. So yes, every day.
So back to the ritual itself. It's asking yourself some
really simple questions, how did I go today? How did
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I feel? Get clear on that and actually write it down.
Everyone can can write down how they felt. Then it's
asking what was I thinking that was creating these emotions?
Because it is our thoughts to create our emotions. So
what it does is it brings awareness. It gets you
to start listening to your mind. What is that voice
(51:29):
in the head saying, paying attention to what this narrative is,
what these thoughts are to Then the next question, what
is the correction of this thought? And this is the
most important part, right, excuse me. A lot of people
will talk about journaling and they'll say, ah, a journal,
(51:49):
a journal, But a lot of the time, what they're
actually doing is just reliving what they did in the day.
They will just write down, like a story, what they
did that day. If you're just doing that and that alone,
I don't see that as being helpful because you're just
reliving what you just lived, rather than that's the step
in the process, write it down as of mind dump. Okay.
(52:14):
But then there has to be this processing of things,
this actual correction of things, where you're looking at okay,
how did I feel right? What was I thinking that
was creating that? To then be able to correct the thought,
because just because you're thinking something doesn't mean that it
is the case. A lot of the time, it's fearful,
it's limited, it's disempowering. So to then be able to
(52:37):
correct the thought, and you could ask yourself, what else
could this mean? How else could I be looking at this?
What's the most most powerful way I could look at this?
And so then you're able to write down that correction
of thought. And when you do this through repetition and
you make it a daily practice, you're one taking control
(52:57):
over your emotions. You're bringing awareness to it, and you're
also bringing awareness to what is creating it way of thinking,
and then through repetition you're able to correct that thought.
Speaker 1 (53:10):
Absolute you absolutely and I'm going to take everything you
just said then and put that in my toolbox because
I needed that as well. I'm yeah, ext truly grateful.
It's it's been an honor, Aggie. You're an absolute inspiration mate,
and I know that you'll play it down and oh no,
I just dive love, but I'm telling you now, mate,
(53:30):
you're inspiring many and there's so much good coming out
of the work that you're doing. Firstly, once again, thank you,
and I respectfully and honored to have you as a
guest as my number one for season seventeen. I think
everybody will get a lot out of today's conversation and guys,
please reach out. We'll also put in our socials, your
(53:52):
networking connections and so on your website and what have you.
Thank you everybody who's taking the time. Welcome back to
all the new listeners. It's an honor to have you
guys here, and please feel free to go back to
season one and come through because there's over two hundred
episodes there of amazing people and this this season is
(54:12):
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Speaker 2 (54:33):
Thank you, Thank you so much, brend I really appreciate it.
You're a good man and I really do. I'm grateful
for this opportunity, so thank you, and thanks to all
for listeners as well.
Speaker 3 (54:48):
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you try and world down and stuff for your photo
record lab on me going all the way way. Photo Record,
ain't trying to link, not trying to wish stuff for
Speaker 4 (55:01):
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for the reggon, for the ragged
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
For the record.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
I'm done trying to make you all comfortable for the record.
You ain't trying to grow downer stuff for your fort
the record, laugh on me going all the way for
the record. Ain't trying to link, No, trying to waste
for the record.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
For the record, for the for the record, for the red,
for the record, record for the record.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
I'm done trying to make you all comfortable.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Right, Welcome back to the Clink and Possible Brand's chat
with McGall pick back up where we left off.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
We think he's sharing how his mother helped stop him
from taking his own life. That's a long journey. Yeah,
that's a really really long journey, brother, that's yeah. Wow.
Well I'm sorry, I'm a little bit huh. I've never
had that relationship with a mum, so I can only
take on how your mum would feel. Why. I've never
(01:22):
had my mom, So for me, it's just that's life.
But I've always appreciated every one of my mates mums.
And to hear you speak in that way and then
know that you know, it's just yeah, it's just not
me for six you know, like, wow, what a blessing
to a Mum's still here today.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Mummy is still here. Yeah, absolutely. Mum's one of my
greatest beautiful, one of my greatest teachers, and one of
my greatest examples. And I asked her a couple of
days later, I said, why did you ask that that night?
Why did you ask? And she said the night that
it happened then, when I was gassing myself. She said
(02:08):
she was in her office working and she had the
sickest feeling come over it, and that she burst out
into laundroom and said to my dad, we need to
get iggy homes. Something is wrong. And that's where that started. Now,
if if Mum had called, it would have been a
different outcome, if any of that had played out differently
(02:30):
from how it did. If it wasn't Dad, if he'd
called off his phone, I wouldn't have answered. If anyone
else had called, I wouldn't have answered. So there was
really a like a divine intervention if with how it
all unfolded. And I'm grateful to still be here. I'm
grateful to have that sort of support that so many
(02:52):
people don't have. And so and I'm grateful that I
made that promise also to my mum because obviously that
that was a turning point in my life. Now, that said,
just because I said I wasn't going to kill myself
doesn't mean I stopped living in a way that was
tempting fate. That was still absolutely there. Now, my focus
(03:16):
was on getting back into the ring, because again I
knew that right, if I'm back in the ring, things
are on track. However, yeah, because I was still involved
in these other activities and I was close to getting
back into the ring, and then my other knee went.
(03:37):
My other knee was dislocated in a street altercation. I
was out one night and there'd been a bit of
a scuffle with a couple of guys and then it
had been broken up, and security had asked me to
sit down on this bench seat outside of cabab shop.
They're like, settle down, Niggy settled down, and I was like,
I'm fine, having a good night. There's these guards all around,
(04:01):
and then they've let through one of these guys who
started king hitting me while I was sitting down talking
to the security guard. So I jumped to my feet
and I went to pivot, but because the bench sheet
was behind me, all my body weight went to pivot
bang dissicated my good knee. I just fell to the
ground and I couldn't care less about, you know, the
(04:25):
guy trying to punch me, and then some other individuals
ran over trying to kick me in the head. But
to me, I was just on the ground, and I
immediately knew what was ahead of me. I knew that
straight away. I was like, I just knew that I'm
going to have to have that knee reconstructed. I'm going
to have to rebuild over a twelve month period before
(04:46):
I can get back to doing what I love, which
is fighting.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
So I did that, had that operation, and did that rebuild,
and did make it back to being in the ring.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
What you know, like when you sit there and you
sort of ponder on the chances of that actually happening
to them. Now knowing that that is what took place,
it was really slim for you, wasn't it really to
get through that twelve months in that rehab if you
had not I guess committed to chasing what was passionate
(05:23):
to you your more time, because it would have been
so easy to get the other way, Like, I.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Mean absolutely, and I guess having been through a knee
reconstruction before and also with the work that I had
been doing around psychology and to do with the mind.
I then had a different attitude with the second reconstruction,
where the first one I hated the fact that I
(05:52):
was stopped still in a full leg brace, not being
able to be active how I wanted to. But I
changed my attitude for the second one, and I thought,
you know what, that's it. I'm going to use this
as a time that I cantion my mind. I'm going
to go through this experience differently with the focus on
being able to get back into the ring. So I went,
(06:14):
I approached it differently, and sure enough, I got it
strong again. And then I just went back to boxing
because I didn't feel confident yet with pivoting and kicking.
So I just went back to boxing, but then turned
pro because I was getting in trouble from the judges
(06:36):
in boxing that'd have a go at my trainer, not Jason,
but Peter Blake. He was a boxing trainer. They'd have
a goal with him after fights and say he shouldn't
be knocking people out, he shouldn't be going in and
trying to knock people out, And Blakie would say but
that's his style. What do you mean. They're like, no,
but this is the amateurs shouldn't be going in there
(06:59):
trying to knock people out. And it was funny because
it's like, come on, it's fighting, it's boxing. So then
we just turned pro and that was great. I enjoyed it.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
I mean, that's like the old saying, never leave it
to the judges. Knocked them out exactly, that's what it's
about it.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
That's exactly. But did that and did well for a
few guys in the top ten and had some wins.
That was great, But ultimately my passion was always muy Thai,
so I was keen to to get back to muy Thai.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Yeah, you spent time when you talk about muy Thai,
and just for our listeners out there, I don't think
too many of men could have gone the distance and
the time that you spent with one of the most
legal men within that sport, multiple multiple world champion, and
they think car that he's just this this man, if
(07:56):
you don't know him, he's a very dangerous human being.
And I don't care who says what this is fact
his ability, his mind said, he's deliverance of power in
if you're watching Train and Delivery seminars, now he just
you go, what the fuck's he doing bashing people? He's not,
That's just that's him. So you know, like putting your perspective.
And I really want to talk about this for a moment,
(08:19):
because you go from basically the double knee surgery to
being number one sparring partner and you know, close mates
with one of the most lethal men in that stays
on the planet.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Yeah, look absolutely so. And then just before we get
to that part, so because it wasn't straight after these
boxing fights that then that happened, There was a bit
in between, and that in between were some really significant things.
So even though I was back in the ring and boxing,
I still had some court cases going on in the
(08:52):
background because of the dealings in the other world. And
one of those cases was a grievous bodily harm with
intent charge and that case went on for about two
and a half years, so the possibility looking at maybe
seven years on the top, maybe three on the bottom.
And during that time, Jason actually died. Jason passed away.
(09:19):
He actually killed himself. He shot himself in the head
in the back of a cop car. He was he
was arrested one night. They didn't search him, which was ridiculous.
He's seeing as though the record that he had and
he had a peace on him. He'd always said that
he would never go back inside after doing time. He
(09:39):
said that it just was a waste of time and
that he wouldn't do it. And when they got him
down to the station, they went to open up the
back of the wagon and he he pulled out gunny.
He shot himself. I remember getting the phone call the
next morning from his mother and that was that was
my first real dealings with death was at that time,
(10:03):
to have that my old brother figure train our best friend,
to have him kill himself. I went back for the
funeral and was there for that. So between that and
this court case going on, I did a lot of reflecting.
It was I was asking a lot of questions within
(10:27):
myself and I thought, you know what, I really need
to just leave this old life behind. I really just
need to be done with it and just have my
full focus on training, being healthy and fighting. That was
my main focus. But I knew I had to make
(10:49):
this decision to no longer be involved in that scene
in that world. And I was reflecting on my life
up until that point and purpose now. To me, as
allusional as it might sound, I always thought I was
(11:09):
doing the doing a good deed, doing a good thing
with some of the activities I was involved in. I'd
always been drawn to the warrior spirit, warrior philosophy of
protecting the vulnerable, and to me, I was doing that
in the criminal world. I was looking out for more
vulnerable people and I was dishing out a bit of
(11:32):
poetic justice as well to some of the bullies. So
but at this time, I thought there must be another way,
There must be a better way for me to contribute,
for me to be able to make an impact. And
I know that might sound crazy, but not at all.
That was That was what I came to at that time,
(11:53):
And I thought, Okay, I'd always been training people also,
so from the age of sixteen, I'd always trained people.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Can I sorry, Yeah, forgive me? Can you forgive me
to cut in like I did? And it's no disrespect,
It's just when it's something hits me in the brain,
I feel that it's necessary it was to be said,
So I just I can't help it at the moment,
just processing what you just said. In reference to losing
(12:20):
your brother who took his life, a man you are
literally loved, adored, who saved your life predominantly from your
darkest moments. You talk about mum, that phone call and
how it would have just destroyed mum had you not
been here today. How did you feel? And I don't
(12:43):
want to sound like a dickhead by asking how did
you feel? I'm asking knowing that you possibly could have
left your mum behind and others that do truly love
you and you could have been the one that was
getting buried. Did it have an impact on your whole
way of thinking and suicideality? Realize eating two thoughts of
(13:07):
after this occurring and you're experiencing such a close death.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Yeah, definitely, Yeah, definitely. How did I feel? I was devastated.
I was devastated. It was the one person that truly
understood me, the one person that I felt, yeah, the
deepest connection with. So I was devastated. And to see
(13:39):
the impact that it had on his mother, on Jason's
mother for example, was yeah, I mean it destroyed her.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
So then you're looking in the mirror realizing that could
have well been Iggy's mum. That's that's a tough pill
to swallow, brother, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Yep? It was definitely definitely a big wake up call,
that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Yeah, And I feel that for anybody out there that's
contemplating and hence me asking the question because I want
to show the vulnerability of you right now and the
reality because you are a strong man, you are a warrior,
and you didn't think twice about gassing yourself that night.
Had you not had that call, you know, you would
have given a life sentence to those that are left behind.
(14:27):
And that's the way I express it is we leave
a life sentence behind for those that do love us
and care, And for anybody out there at the moment
that's struggling or triggered by anything that we're talking about,
please reach out and know that it's a short term problem.
It's not a long term problem, but the solution by
taking suicide as an option is a long term problem
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for everyone else.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Absolutely, And one of my biggest realizations with it was
what I was really wanting when I contemplated it, when
I attempted, I was wanting was for how I was
experiencing life to end because of it was a shocking experience.
(15:13):
It was miserable. And I've been fortunate enough to walk
many other people through my work who are at that
place and have been at that place. I've been able
to guide them to a position of strength and empowerment
where they have control over themselves with this understanding that
you're not actually wanting your life to end, You're wanting
(15:33):
your experience of life to end. But there is another way. Yeah,
there is another way, and that it comes down to
transforming your perception. It's our thoughts that create how we feel.
So ultimately what has to change is how we are
experiencing life. And I think that that was a really
(15:54):
defining moment for me, and a really key understanding was
that that this Once I take control over my mind
and I changed that, then my whole experience of life changes.
So really the death that needs to happen isn't this
physical death, but it's a death of consciousness, a death
(16:15):
and a rebirth, a death of old ideas, limited ways
of seeing life, and the rebirth of a powerful perception.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Yeah. Well well said, And look I have to agree.
I think that it's from my own journey and experience,
which most people are aware of it. I'm still going
through you know, like it's a it's a daily thing
of do you wake up and you know, say I
can't do this no more, don't want to be absolutely
these days. Absolutely, But you know, I live by a
(16:46):
motto be the best you can be, and I try
them proudly and instill that into my children's people I
connect with. Yeah, I'm a little bit wild at times,
and you know, very real and outspoken and you know,
what are you going to fucking change? And I love
being that person and I love being able to give
and help and support. And that's because I'm living now.
(17:09):
I'm here with you right now. I'm smiling right now.
Whatever's going to happen just down the road, with whatever's happening. Fuck,
I've got no control over that. It can't I can't
do anything about it. What it can do now is
be the best I can be, even in my worst times,
you know, and I feel that. You know, if we're
able to give people tools once again, I use that
(17:30):
word tools because it is a toolbox that if we
can utilize and they have beside us and in those moments,
what do we learn from these experiences? What then becomes
a lesson which then we can implement in our lives
as a tool to better ourselves. So next time we
ever feel that we're falling, we're going down, we know
that we're going I mean, living with Type two bipolo,
I don't take medication for it, but I embrace it
(17:53):
because it makes me amazing. There's things that I do
and can do that most people won't and can't. And
I know we try not to use that language that
can't want and all that, but I'm being realistic, like
I know, I challenge most forty nine year old one
hundred and ten men. They going to even some of
the things that I'm mentally able to push myself to do.
(18:15):
It is an embracement of life that that is like,
this is what I've got, and how am I going
to make the best of what I have?
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Yeah? Absolutely, And I really love that. You know, it's
powerful because it comes down to choice. You know, this
gift of choice. You know, what is this going to
mean to me? It's one of the things when I'm
working with people that have been through extreme trauma and
situations like, look, we can't change what's happened, what has happened,
(18:48):
it happened, but we can absolutely change what it means
to you. Now, it doesn't have to define you. So
many people feel like they are their past or they
are their story, and there's this clinging to an identity unconsciously,
but it keeps people trapped. This is what I always do,
This is just who I am. This always happens to me.
(19:10):
It's so limited, but it keeps people stuck there. So
when you realize I can change at any time, I
can transform myself. I can recreate myself. I can allow
the old to die and fall away. I don't have
to be defined by things that have happened. I can
change right here and now in the only place that
(19:31):
change can happen, and that's in the present moment. Now
I know that with myself, it was I'd made that
choice to leave the old life behind and that's when
I started to train with Nathan Corbett. That's it. I'll
move to the Gold Coast and get back into the ring.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Was that more of a challenge that for you? Because
I look at that and I think that's just fucking ludicrous.
He was in his absolute crime and you're putting yourself
literally in a death situation. Look, I know it's well, hey,
one hit and it could have gone south. But my
point being is you know like fit strong all that mentally,
you know what your ability and dealt with and what
(20:14):
Jason had guided you and taught you, which was probably
what got you in there and around Nathan in the end.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
But mate, yeah, come on, like look to.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
But there's there's there's a you just a little bit tapped.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Well to me. To me, it was perfect because I
got online and had to look.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
I was.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
I was in near Yamber and yeah, I still I
wasn't allowed to leave the state at that time. However,
you know, it was the tail end of this case,
and it was. But I was really keen to be
training and sparring properly, and I was. I knew that
as soon as that case was finished, if I was
still out that I would I'd move to the Gold Coast.
(20:56):
So I was sneaking across the border on weekends to
go into Urban Fight Gym to train. And so I'd
come up and I'd go and I'd think this is awesome,
Like I used to. This is the funny part. I
used to sit in the car park before going into
SPA and you can just hear Nathan training inside. You
(21:16):
can hear him He's like an absolute animal. You hear
him hitting pads right and exactly. And I was sitting
in the car and before going into SPA with him,
I'd watch I had this favorite highlight clip of his
which was like when for about four minutes fifty and
it had that I'm going to knock you out. Yeah,
(21:39):
I'd watch it and it was amazing, these highlights of
all of his elbow. I'd be watching that to get
to get ready, and then I'd go in and get
in the ring with him and bang on and it
was it was awesome, but I loved it, and so
to me, because I came up the way that I did,
(21:59):
that was normal to me. Like I'd get in the
ring with him. Over the first six months, I'd get
dropped every time we sparred, because if anyone knows Nathan,
Nathan spars one way and that's last fight. There is
one one pace and it's it's amazing to watch, and
it's amazing to even be on the receiveing end. He
(22:23):
would dropped me some sessions. I'd go outside, I'd spew
up on the grass and then I'd come back in,
climb back into the ring and he'd look at me
and go, what are you doing? I said, let's go.
He's like, you're done. I'm like, no, let's go. And
he'd looked at me like I was a bit of
a sicko anyway. But when you when you take on
(22:44):
and work with someone so great, you're only going to
get better. And that was the thing. Like after after
six months it went from getting dropped every session to
maybe every third session I'd get dropped. Then after a
year it things evened out, which was it was great.
Some nights I'd go home can cuss. Some nights he would.
(23:05):
Some nights we'd both go home concussed. I remember times
where I'd get home and I'd call him and be like, hey,
you going. He's like, I've been sitting staring at my
dinner for the last two hours. My girlfriend, my girlfriend
thinks there's something wrong with me. But like it was.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
He was processing the whole the whole afternoon and smarring
and training.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
With you concussion all right, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, there'd
be that big a hits. I remember I was a
week out from a fight.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
And you're quite short and near to him, aren't you.
Like if you put the two of you standing in
front of each other. You're a very well designed human.
Let's not be silly here. You know, yeah, he's a
he's a big thick beast like he's power. Just that,
you know, like putting the perspective. And I love talking
(23:58):
about this when it comes to you. Is that right there?
Just shows who you are as a man. And I'm
not talking about the toughness, but just mentally what you're
able to help others with through your only big I
dare anybody to put somebody else in front of me
that's done what you've done in that respect, I don't
(24:19):
think you will find a consistent person turning up as
you did for that period of time.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
It's just well about That's what I mean about welcoming
the opportunity. Like so to me, I thought, why are
there not other people that are wanting to do this
with him? Because no one wanted to spar him. He
would he could never keep a sparring partner because it
(24:46):
was this one pace and people would winge and that
I would think, what are you winging about? Like this
is you are not going to get any better than this,
Like it's every session is like a fight. And look
and I get that, you know, is it good long term?
And you know that people, but fuck to me, whatever,
go with me. It's you can't you cannot get the
(25:09):
mental conditioning and you can't. So each to their own.
But to me to do that with Nathan and have
those years with him, I mean, there is not another
one like him. He is incredible and his movement, everything
about it is just like I'd never tire of watching it.
He could put up every week, he could put up
(25:29):
some of his old fights and I would continually watch them.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
I mean, you've only got to watch his page now.
Like I mean, a big shout out to Nathan if
you hear this. He's still in the States, is he.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Yeah, he is, Like he's just.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
I don't want to be rude, but he's very violent
even in his like education. Yeah. You watch these poor
bastards step up. They just the fucking look on their
faces as they're putting their hands up. He's showing a
three three piece komba or four pits and you just go, oh.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Yeah, the speed and the liver, the accuracy of everybody.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
It's like, okay, all right, but that's that's why he
is who he is and why he is the waves
and you know you're to me like that, like that
mirror image. Obviously you're Iggy McGowan, but you know, like wow,
you know where your mental state in life is and
(26:27):
your ability and knowing who you are. That's right there.
Sums it up for me. You know, that is just
some scary stuff. That was.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Yeah, look that was excellence. That was you know, when
just getting back into moy Thai, having left the old
life behind. And then I had a phone call one
night before this is before I moved to the Gold Coast,
so that was when just coming up on weekends and
I had a phone call from my older sister Tess
one night. I'd been working in a gym down there
(27:00):
near y Amber and I just got home and I
knew that there was some bad news. I could just
tell with Mum and dad the energy in the place.
I got on the phone to Test and she said, ah, Iggy,
I've been diagnosed with melanoma. I've been diagnosed as it's terminal.
(27:24):
They said I've only got months to live. And I
was I was distraught. You know, we knew that there
was Tested had a mole cut off her back. She
was pregnant at the time and she had a mole
in between her shoulder blade. It was only small, and
(27:46):
she always had her skin checked. She never would go
out in the sun, but she had it checked one
time during the pregnancy and they said, we don't like
the look of this, so they cut it out. They
called her back in the next day and they said,
we really don't like this. They took out a big
horseshoe shape, took out all her lymph nodes under one arm,
half lymphans of them, and they said, we think we've
(28:08):
got it all, but there's one more test that we
can do, but it might interfere with the fetus. And
she said, well, I don't want to interfere with the fetus.
And they said that's okay. We can do it once
you give birth. We're ninety nine percent sure that we've
got everything, that it's all good. She gave birth to
my niece Mabel, and the next day they did this test.
(28:30):
They put the dye in through the body and it
just lit up like a Christmas tree, every major organ
of bones, everything, And that's when I got that call
from test to say that it was terminal and only
months to live, and so I dropped everything and I
moved down to Sydney with family to be around Tests
(28:51):
and to nurse her leading up to her passing. Was
down there for a nine month period. I didn't want
to leave Testa's side, so I just said that's it.
I'm here no matter what, I'm not going anywhere. So
went from being in hospital to then into palliative care,
(29:13):
and Tess was Tess was like a saint. Tess was
the most beautiful person. She was always so nurturing, always
so considerate of other people. Growing up, Tess is the
second eldest, so played a massive role in raising the
(29:35):
younger kids. It just came naturally to her, that motherly nature.
And she'd always wanted to She'd always just really wanted
to have a child and be a mum. So she
met a lovely guy, Victor, and then that's when she
was pregnant got diagnosed. So it was a massive and
(30:00):
if people ask me about a turning point in my life,
I know I've mentioned a few, but this was the
solidifying line. This is when I made a choice. And
so nurse Tests in that time and just saw a
stripped bear of all the things that she loved. I
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saw test go from being able to nurse Mabel. I
remember we had a six month birthday party for Mabel
because we knew the Test wasn't going to be around
for her first If Mabel was upset. It got to
a point where Test wasn't able to nurse her anymore,
she didn't have the strength. Just seeing her deteriorate, and
(30:43):
the hours and hours and days of horrific pain where
the tumors and things are getting bigger, pushing on the
spinal cord, pushing on nerves to them not being able
to walk, seeing all these things happen, and the torment
in my own mind, arguing what was happening. I would
(31:06):
be there night after night after night, trying to will
myself to be able to change places with tests and
trust me, you can't do it. If anyone could, I
would have done it. I put in a lot of effort,
but you simply can't. And to then one day I
went for a walk to get some fresh air. I
(31:28):
was in front of Bondi Beach. I was walking along
just thinking, why the fuck am I still here? Why
am I still here? Like I don't even want to
be here, and Tess's life has been taken from her.
Why am I still here, and I had this epiphany.
It's the only way I could describe it is I
(31:51):
just had this message that you're here to be a leader,
You're here to guide people. And it was because I've
walked these predict these LIFs that have predictable endings. That
was the mess that came to me in an instant,
that I was here to be a leader. Then my
mind came back in and was like, who am I
(32:12):
meant to lead? So I quickly forgot about that, kept
focusing on tests, and as it got toward the end,
about a week before tests passed, she said that she
wanted to ask something of people. So we all gathered
in the room around Tess's bed and everyone said, what
is it? Test? What is it? She said, I want
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to ask you all something. Everyone's like anything anything.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Tests.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
She said, I want to ask you to look after
each other. And everyone said, of course, of course, yes, yep,
of course tests. And she said, and the second thing
is I want you to look after yourselves. Everyone said,
of course, of course yes. Tests. And now I walked
out of there. Breton, I thought, this is my sister's
(33:02):
dying wish. I'm going to honor her dying wish, and
I sat with it, and I thought, look after each other. Well,
I can only be in one place at a time.
Maybe I'll start with the second part, look after yourself.
I thought, that's it. From this moment forward, I'm going
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to be completely self sufficient. I'm going to be balanced.
I'm going to be one hundred percent self sufficient, and
so I put all of my focus to that. Once
test passed, my full focus was on honoring test as
dying wish. So I was all about just being balanced
and having self rule. I was fortunate enough to come
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across a great teacher who was able to pass on
principles and practices from an esoteric tradition and really help
me refine everything that I've learned over the years around
the mind and transformation and operate from those principles to
this day. But that was my focus, and that was
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what I chose to take from Tessa's death. I chose
to take it as well. I am still here, what's
this going to mean to me? Is it going to
be the end? Is it going to be the worst
thing ever? Am I going to use it as an
excuse to fall in a heap? And I decided no,
that that's it. I'm here. This is a gift. I'm
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going to live every day to the full. I'm going
to be the best I can possibly be in honor
of Tessa's life and in honor of Tessa's death, that
no matter what, I'm here to live fully every day
like a celebration, and that that is the greatest gift
that I can give to Tessa's spirit.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Other I just want to thank you right now for
your vulnerability and opening up and sharing is because that's
that's time that's very powerful and just for me personally,
I see you post some things on your page with
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your beautiful niece, and I've just my heart's full watching
his dance sing, and I just I always I don't know,
I just had this. I just went, Wow, what a
cool uncle, What a cool uncle. I just every time
I see these little moments that you have shared, and
I know I can see and read how close that
(35:37):
you are now it makes absolutely million percent sense. But
you know those beautiful little moments that you share together,
and just me be me, you would just go what
a great uncle, what a cool uncle, with no knowledge
of how in depth. So for me hearing you now
open up and share this, that little thing that I've
(35:59):
always sort of been observant of has just made complete
sense and my heart's full, and yeah, I just I'm
a bit struck mate, to be honest.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
With no thanks brother, Look, look I'm grateful. I thank
you for creating this opportunity. And I know I skipped
over that part of the story. It was obviously one
of the if not the most monumental thing in my life.
You know, was was that period that was? It was
(36:29):
one of the most meaningful experiences. And an interesting thing
is sometimes if people asked me the question, what's the
most beautiful thing I've ever seen, and my answer is
always my sister's dad, And some people find that really strange.
But what I mean by that is it was the
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most powerful, the most beautiful thing I've ever seen. It
was the most impactful thing I've ever seen. And why
is because Test died beautiful. Test was so selfless, She
conducted herself, carried herself with grace right through to the end,
(37:09):
the whole time when being stripped bare of the things
that she loved, being able to nurse her own daughter,
not being able to walk everything, no matter what, Test's
focus was on other people, everyone else, not once did
she complain. And I was with her every day, not
once when she had every reason to say this is unfair,
(37:32):
this is awful. Nothing, absolute grace, And I'll give you
an example. There could be and there often were days
on end where no amount of morphine, no amount of
breakthroughs and pain medication, it wouldn't touch the sides of
the pain that test was going through. So it would
be in there trying to get tests to do some breathing,
(37:55):
trying to get her to do some different meditations just
to try and get through the pain. And then it
seemed like Tess was getting some sleep after days and
her eyes would be closed. She'd be laying there and
I'd think, finally she's getting a bit of rest. So
I'd go to leave the room, and as I got
(38:15):
near the door, i'd hear a soft voice say I
and I'd go back over to her and I'd say,
what is it, Test?
Speaker 1 (38:25):
What is it?
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Do you want me to call the nurse? And she'd
say her eyes closed? Are you okay? She'd ask if
I was okay, and I'd say if I am test Test,
please please get some rest, please, and she'd say okay,
and I'd give her a kiss on her forehead and
(38:46):
then she would sleep like that gives me goosebumps right now.
You know that to be that selfless, to still have
that sort of awareness there for someone else and how
they're experiencing things.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
Oh god, I really do.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
So. I'm grateful for the examples that I've had in
my life. I've been very fortunate to have.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
It's almost like she's gifted you this opportunity at being
your best version of you. You know, I like, and
she's and I please, I'm not minings in any other way,
but with love, She's sacrificed her own hardship and pain
to ask the best version of you and also obviously
your family members, but for you that we're talking about
right now, you know, and I can't help it. Go
(39:36):
back and think, had you have succeeded that night or
any other time, how broken that beautiful sister of yours
would have been losing her brother.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
You know, like, wow, Look, I'm grateful for it all,
every single bit of my story, the bits that I've
mentioned and the things that we haven't had a chance
to I'm grateful for it all because it has shaped
the man that I am, and ultimately it's I've chosen
for it to mean. And that's what it really comes
(40:09):
down to, is accepting responsibility and choosing, Okay, what is
this going to mean to me? And what am I
going to do with it? And to me, it's that
epiphany that I had in front of Bond Diabetes during
Tessa's death, that here to be a leader, here to
be an example. You know that my life is the teaching.
I'm here because yep, I've walked these different I've lived
(40:32):
these different lives. I've walked the path and I've come
out the other side, and I'm here to show people
you can do it too. That I'm not special, that
anything I've been able to overcome, anything I've been able
to face, that you can do it too. If you
accept responsibility and you commit to change, you can turn
(40:56):
everything around. You can make things better. And so that
is my work today. And now I'm fortunate enough to
work with people of all walks of life, from mums
and dads to teens, kids, corporate groups, CEOs, business people,
people that have addiction, people that are suicidal, anxiety, depression, abuse,
(41:21):
you name it, and I love it all because being
able to be that support for someone that guide for
someone to help guide people to complete power within themselves.
That's all I was ever craving my whole life. I
was wanting to be free from the dependency on things
outside of me, free from and that's what I stopped
(41:43):
after Tessa's death. Drugs, alcohol, sugar, you name it. Stopped
everything completely. And I've been that way for twelve thirteen,
nearly fourteen years now, and I came to balance.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
This is the secret to why you've got such myself body.
You ripped up machine here. There's not a wrinkle. There's
not a wrinkle in you. The color in your skin
is so beautiful and glowing. I'd like to know what
men's products you And when you take that shirt, Holy
Tom Dooley, you're.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
That's a that's a byproduct of living.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
This way, you know, that's this is when it all
shifts into this amazing human.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
That's it. But I guess, well, it's reflective, isn't it?
And I know that I'm not. I'm not saying everything
you said was true, but legend so funny, so funny. Look,
it's but to be healthy, to be well, to be balanced,
was everything I ever wanted. And that's why when people
(42:50):
see the way that I eat. For example, I made
a very particular diet. I don't eat any rubbish, and
people will say, come on, why don't you have a
cheap meal or whatever, And it's I don't need a
break from feeling great like I love being balanced. I'm
I'm healthy, my mind is sharp and clear. I know
how I'm going to feel. I have great energy, great focus.
(43:12):
You know, from someone that was once given all these
different diagnosis and medications for things, to be able to
get off all of that and heal myself and have
complete control over myself is the most liberating, most empowering
thing ever. It was all I ever wanted, all the
self medicating through the different the different acts and different
(43:36):
things I would do to finally come to this place
of peace within myself, to be able to cultivate presence,
to be able to move through and make my days
of meditation. Yes, I have my formal practices of things,
my daily rituals, but ultimately it's about being able to
make the day into a meditation. And that's what I
(43:58):
love teaching and sharing with people and helping people to
come to that place of peace, no matter whether there
as I said, no matter what walk of life they're
coming from, no matter what age they are, to be
able to have that control over themselves and understand that
they are the creator of their life and how how
(44:19):
to do that, meaning how to actually with intention consciously
create who it is that you wish to be in
the world and how you would like to be able
to present to the world and interact with life.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
Yeah. I love that and it's having a massive impact
on a lot of people's lives. And look, I think,
you know, for anybody out there that's looking for that edge,
you know, and I'm going to ask you to give
his contacts because you're talking to somebody who is authentic,
has lived as we've just heard through. You know, I
(44:54):
don't know what much more you could live through to
be where you are and do what you do like
it's yeah, it's it's life. It's a real life, and
you're here today because of those experiences. For anybody out
there that's looking to reach out, where can we find you?
Speaker 2 (45:14):
Yeah, for sure, So people can reach out through my
socials at Iggy McGowan on Instagram or Facebook or my
website Iggy McGowan dot com. I'd love to hear from anyone. Yeah,
I feel free to shoot me a DM. But any
inquiries or even if anyone in your audience that watches this,
I'd love to hear your feedback, reach out. It's just
(45:38):
great to know that things can have an impact on
people if you can relate. Yeah, shoot me a message.
Speaker 1 (45:45):
Yeah, I love that. And look, I can vouch as
I said in earlier in the chat, there's definitely been
times there where I've chosen to make a call and
reach out to Egy, whether it be a short conversation,
a few words or long. You know, it's always been
something that's been relevant and has stuck up here. And
you know, for anybody who, as we said earlier, that
(46:08):
may feel that there is no other option, there definitely is.
And we hope that this journey of you being here
today and listening to Iggy's story and being a part
of what we deliver through the Clink gives you hope
and gives you inspiration to know that there are great tools.
I'm going to ask you and before we we we
do sum this up, because it's been an amazing chat
(46:30):
and our feel that we could really go in so
much longer. I'd love to be able to from our chat,
leave two powerful tools for our guests. Because you are
episode one of season seventeen, and I'm so honored to
still be here. It's like a lifetime in the podcasting industry.
So you know, we're aiming for five million downloads very soon,
(46:52):
and you know, to have you leading from the front
as you do. But also to season seventeen, let's give
too wonderful tools that you live by.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
Okay, excellent. To start with something very simple, and that
is the statement to yourself, I am responsible. It's a
mental stance I am responsible because it's only when we
accept responsibility that we are then stepping into the driver's seat,
(47:25):
that we're actually accepting that we are the creators of
our life. And so when you make a statement to yourself,
I am responsible and you condition yourself in that way,
what you're doing is you're accepting your power responsibility. So
many people they dismiss responsibility. They don't want to accept
(47:46):
any responsibility for their life and how their life looks.
And that's a victim that's what people look. It's a
victim mindset. Whereas when you state to yourself the truth,
which is I am responsible, that means I have the
ability to respond. It means it's not what's happening that
creates how I feel. It's my response to what is happening.
(48:10):
I am able to respond powerful to this. What's this
going to mean to me? Okay, I'm going to look
at it and I'm going to see the advantage. I'm
going to see the opportunity. I'm going to respond in strength.
I am responsible. That's a mental stance. Every day I
begin my day out on my balcony or wherever I
am in posture and breath. I align my body in
(48:32):
a particular posture and connect with my breath. Once I've
done that, I then say to myself, I am responsible.
I create my day, and it is this mental stance
to say, as I move through the day, I choose
how I respond. So it's not life that determines how
(48:53):
I feel. It's not the challenge, it's not other people,
it's me. I'm in the position of power. So that's
the first tool. I am responsible, and the second is
a ritual of reflection and correction. So one thing that
I get anyone that I work with it obviously everything
I teach, I live myself. I have a meeting with
(49:16):
myself every day, I'll have a meeting with myself the
same as I would with a client, where I sit
and I look within myself, I go okay. So to
reflect is to bring awareness to things. That's what conscious
living is. If you're not bringing awareness to why you're
doing what you're doing, why you're thinking, what you're thinking,
(49:38):
then you're just going through life on autopilot, constantly reacting
to things, giving your power away doing things just because
that's what you've always done. So I have this daily
ritual where I will reflect. It's always great to write
it down as well. If you can have a book
to actually write things down, it makes it tangible. Then
(49:59):
you can actually see what you've been thinking. So some
simple questions ask yourself when you do this. Brett's got
his book there.
Speaker 1 (50:10):
Properly, and this is given an ownership of the fact
that this book is in my hands. I am presenting
it to you, and I am going to make a
conscious to write each day in this book after this day.
Thank you very much, Iggy.
Speaker 2 (50:25):
I'm glad you've got it there. That's great. This is
the nudge that you've needed. And this is the thing
is like, is when you make this commitment and so
I'll have some people that will say to me, really
every day, I'm like, yes, every day. We're talking about
the very thing that creates your life, the very thing
that creates your emotions. And people they're looking at it
(50:46):
like it's a chore. This isn't a chore. It's a gift.
You get to actually create how you want to feel
and what actions you're going to take. So yes, every day.
So back to the ritual itself. It's asking yourself some
really simple questions, how did I go today? How did
(51:07):
I feel? Get clear on that and actually write it down.
Everyone can can write down how they felt. Then it's
asking what was I thinking that was creating these emotions?
Because it is our thoughts to create our emotions. So
what it does is it brings awareness. It gets you
to start listening to your mind. What is that voice
(51:29):
in the head saying, paying attention to what this narrative is,
what these thoughts are to Then the next question, what
is the correction of this thought? And this is the
most important part, right, excuse me. A lot of people
will talk about journaling and they'll say, ah, a journal,
(51:49):
a journal, But a lot of the time, what they're
actually doing is just reliving what they did in the day.
They will just write down, like a story, what they
did that day. If you're just doing that and that alone,
I don't see that as being helpful because you're just
reliving what you just lived, rather than that's the step
in the process, write it down as of mind dump. Okay.
(52:14):
But then there has to be this processing of things,
this actual correction of things, where you're looking at okay,
how did I feel right? What was I thinking that
was creating that? To then be able to correct the thought,
because just because you're thinking something doesn't mean that it
is the case. A lot of the time, it's fearful,
it's limited, it's disempowering. So to then be able to
(52:37):
correct the thought, and you could ask yourself, what else
could this mean? How else could I be looking at this?
What's the most most powerful way I could look at this?
And so then you're able to write down that correction
of thought. And when you do this through repetition and
you make it a daily practice, you're one taking control
(52:57):
over your emotions. You're bringing awareness to it, and you're
also bringing awareness to what is creating it way of thinking,
and then through repetition you're able to correct that thought.
Speaker 1 (53:10):
Absolute you absolutely and I'm going to take everything you
just said then and put that in my toolbox because
I needed that as well. I'm yeah, ext truly grateful.
It's it's been an honor, Aggie. You're an absolute inspiration mate,
and I know that you'll play it down and oh no,
I just dive love, but I'm telling you now, mate,
(53:30):
you're inspiring many and there's so much good coming out
of the work that you're doing. Firstly, once again, thank you,
and I respectfully and honored to have you as a
guest as my number one for season seventeen. I think
everybody will get a lot out of today's conversation and guys,
please reach out. We'll also put in our socials, your
(53:52):
networking connections and so on your website and what have you.
Thank you everybody who's taking the time. Welcome back to
all the new listeners. It's an honor to have you
guys here, and please feel free to go back to
season one and come through because there's over two hundred
episodes there of amazing people and this this season is
(54:12):
just going to be fantastic. Twenty twenty five is our
year two sideways Surf. We can't do this without you
each week having our backs. We love you. Thank you
very much. Pod Shake You're awesome and remember guys getting
into sideway surf will jump online and grab your clink
ink apparel. Be the best you can be, one percent
better every day igging your gollon.
Speaker 2 (54:33):
Thank you, Thank you so much, brend I really appreciate it.
You're a good man and I really do. I'm grateful
for this opportunity, so thank you, and thanks to all
for listeners as well.
Speaker 3 (54:48):
Photo Record, don't try and make you uncomfortable, photo Record,
you try and world down and stuff for your photo
record lab on me going all the way way. Photo Record,
ain't trying to link, not trying to wish stuff for
Speaker 4 (55:01):
The record, for the record, for the record, for the right,
for the reggon, for the ragged
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