November 10, 2025 • 35 mins
After a long break, The Clink returns with a brand-new season — and we’re kicking it off because you, the audience, demanded it. The messages, the comments, the votes tall made it clear: the people wanted The Clink back.
In this season opener, host Brent tells the truth behind the nine-week hiatus, the personal loss he’s endured, and why your support pulled him back into the chair. Then he sits down with Daniel Mac the man behind the explosive International Brawling Championship for his first deep and raw conversation about the rise of IBC, the journey from rock bottom to national broadcast deals, and the resilience required to build something from nothing.
A powerful start to the new season, driven by the listeners who refused to let this show disappear.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Approach production.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
All right, let's lock in on this, okay.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
For the record, I don't try and make you uncomfortable
for the record. You ain't trying to grow downer stuff
for your for the record, laugh on me going all
the way for the record. I ain't trying to link,
no trying to waste for.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
The record, for the record, for the record, for the rate,
for the record, record.
Speaker 5 (00:49):
For the record.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Don't try and make you uncomfortable.
Speaker 6 (00:54):
Welcome back to the Clink. It has been a minute,
and I just want to say to everybody out there they're
tongue in there, thank you very very much. Nine weeks
ago I laid my dear to rest and sadly it
took its toll. And I'm feeling really really good at
the moment and feel that because of you, the listener
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out there wants to hear more of the Clink that
I must continue it. So a massive thank you to
everybody out there who has engaged in any of my
posts on my social media's. I did run a little
vote and this has a lot to do with why
I'm sitting here today. I want to say a massive
thank you to Sideway Surf. You have been phenomenal in
(01:37):
keeping us afloat and guys, remember you can always go
into any one of their stores, jump online, sideway surf
and hit the clothing section one percent better every day,
clinking apparel. Get in there and grab it to everybody
that's wearing it, and I'm getting sent lots of photos.
Speaker 7 (01:55):
Thank you.
Speaker 6 (01:56):
It means the world. It has a positive message there
and that is the whole point of it, getting a
message out there to make a difference. Today's guest is
somebody whom how can I say you, Guys that have
listened to the show for many, many years now realize
I ain't get too much of a heart on when
it comes to too many people. But today's guest is
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someone I am so excited and pumped to have on.
It is a very special moment. I believe that I'm
one of, if not the first, to have this wonderful
man sit down and have an open conversation about what
we're about to discuss. It is something that is going
to be huge in the world. I believe it's already
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taken off now nationally, which we'll get into in the conversation.
His name is Daniel Mack. He's from Melbourne originally and
He's a man with a great story that is nothing
but absolute success to date, and he hasn't even begun.
But I can assure you that this was not a
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story that started from humble beginnings and was fed and
everything was all honky dory.
Speaker 7 (03:08):
That's not true at all.
Speaker 6 (03:09):
This man has done the hard yards. We're not sitting here.
Speaker 7 (03:12):
Today to discuss his past.
Speaker 6 (03:14):
But what we're going to do is we're going to
touch on a few little things and talk about what
is happening now. D Dan, Welcome to the clinkmate to
have you here.
Speaker 7 (03:27):
You are today.
Speaker 6 (03:28):
Here representing your business.
Speaker 7 (03:30):
International Brawling Championship's.
Speaker 6 (03:34):
Brother, You've just come out of nowhere. Let's be honest.
It's been one show on the Gold Coast in a
fantastic arena, fucking horse arena. To start with. It wasn't
a square ring, it wasn't an octagon. It was something different.
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The way that it's structured. The violence, and when I
say the violence, the controlled violence, which we'll talk about later,
because I don't want anybody out there going oh Island
this way now, it's not about that. This has so
much great purpose and meaning to making change and why
I truly want to have you on here, because the
clink is about that. We're not here to glorify people's
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crimes and people sort of you know, carry his ons
and all this sort of shit. It's not what we're about.
What we are about is giving people the right tools
in life to be able to grow.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
Well.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Look, first of all, thanks again for having me, mate,
appreciate it. And sorry about you lost of your brothers.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
That's very sad.
Speaker 6 (04:36):
Thank you.
Speaker 7 (04:37):
I appreciate that.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
Look, mate, we are backtrack.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Started off boxing promoting a couple of years back. Have
my slug at that and it was a bumpy up
and down road and I like that.
Speaker 7 (04:51):
That's how that slug.
Speaker 6 (04:53):
Yeah, well that's well, you're not the pretty fighter.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
It was a slug. Definitely not the pretty fighter. Mate.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
I come from a spectator's perspective, not a not a
fighter's perspective. So look, so we've done the boxing promotions
and honestly, like, for the first time in my life,
I've had a lot of businesses and always try how
to stab it success and trying to be successful, and
this was the first time I'd found something that I
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had a calling for and I guess like I really
really wanted to be a promoter. So my old partner
at the time and him and I had a real
slug at it and went through the works and lost
a shit ton of money and went for all the
emotions of it all, and.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
Then we sort of parted ways.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
And it was just after Christmas, around February March. We
sat there and I said to my wife, I said,
you know.
Speaker 7 (05:48):
What, I said, that's this year.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
Then, yeah, that's this year.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Yeah, yeah, So yeah, we just started the idea come
about in March, started drawing the pens what we call
it now, which is our square cage.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
I said to my.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Wife, I said, I'm going to have a red hot
crack at this, and she goes, mate, just go, just
let's do it.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
And we did.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
And then sure enough, like you said, like, we've done
the one show and all of a sudden, we've got
a Foxtel KO main event deal and we've been picked
up by thirteen international broadcast partners and it's all happening
almost too fast, you know. And for a bloke that's
like that, it's I call myself half.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
A promoter, you know.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
I mean, I've only been around a couple of years,
and I was an apprentice for most of it, you know,
so can.
Speaker 6 (06:34):
We You said it's it's coming fast now, yeah, and
we both use that words. Let's just slow it down
just a little bit for a minute because you spoke
of your wife and I won't go into family details.
It's not something unless obviously you know what I mean.
It's something, but if I may, just out of respect, Yeah,
you went through some hardships as a family the back
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of COVID. You were in Melbourne financially pretty well, hit
rock bottom.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
Yep.
Speaker 6 (07:06):
You came up with a bit of an idea through
a suggestion through someone else that then you backed once
again believed in You found yourself steady on your feet
for you and your family to be able to make
a better choice, and that choice was to move to Queensland.
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How was that period committing giving all and saying, hey, listen,
we need to take this step as a family, knowing
obviously you have a wife that's rock solid and there
beside you definitely, and credit.
Speaker 7 (07:45):
To you, your beautiful wife.
Speaker 6 (07:47):
I haven't met you, but I know you'll listen to
this because women like that a few and far between.
And that's no disrespect to any of my listeners out there.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
This is a fact.
Speaker 6 (07:56):
There's no point bullshitting about and look, same as men,
we can be pricks. You're blessed you have a rock
solid a wife who believes in her husband. How was
that just packing up your lives in Melbourne, running basically
on just what you hope would need to get to
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the Gold Coast, which is not a cheap place to live. Yeah,
in one of the worst periods that our generation has
ever seen. Yeah, to then come up here and as
someone who lives here knows how hard it was to
fucking even get a rental and purchase How did you
how did this actually sort of navigate your way through that?
Speaker 1 (08:35):
I think it was a I think it was a
do or die moment. I think going through COVID and
watching what my like, my son spent the first year
and a half of his school life at home on
a fucking iPad, I.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
Said like, okay, this is just homeschool.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
No, no, just because we were locked out, lockdown from
COVID right from yeah, no, I mean Malbourne.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
It was like it was a Nazi camp, you know
what I mean? It was. It was ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
So he was the only one in school. I had
another one that was starting the year later, and I said,
I go listen. I'd come up to Gold Coast because
at the time we were looking to open one of
those air locker gyms. I was going to do one
with Todd Carney in a couple of mates, right, yeah.
Speaker 6 (09:14):
I went to the first one in Curumba.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Right, So we were going to do the one in
I think we had the the rights for.
Speaker 7 (09:24):
The kid.
Speaker 6 (09:24):
There was a couple of NURL players that went through, correct,
right after the Kuruman one.
Speaker 7 (09:29):
Originally I think it started.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
We were going to be the we were going to
be the first one on the coast. So this is
before that even built.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
The Krumba one. Right.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
So I was flying up during COVID and so I'd
spent some time up here, and I was like walking
through Burley and I'm like, man, like the.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
Kids are riding their bikes. They're not sitting on their.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
iPad like I felt like I was in Melbourne back
in the two thousand days, Like I felt like when
I was a kid riding around my bike and I said,
there you go home and every kid's on their iPad,
like no one goes outside.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
It's the weather as miserable as we know, like so,
And I said to my wife, I said, you know what, I.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Said, all the money's moving north. I said, it's just
going like you could just see it. I said, we
need to get out of Melbourne, so we need to
get out of there.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
So I said, you.
Speaker 6 (10:14):
Know, you just fucked our real estate.
Speaker 7 (10:16):
Yeah, playing simple.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
To be fair, I got I got here.
Speaker 6 (10:20):
Afterwards we set our fucking Reynolds twenty. You see our
sales through the fuck. I've had more money than anyone
up here, because you're all selling up, making millions down
there in profit and coming up very clean up credit.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
Is mate, look to be fair. I came up after
it was fucked. I didn't. I didn't get that.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
I didn't get the jump on anyone because I moved
up here, and I moved into a shitty little four
call at four it was three bedroom and a study
home and I was paying eight hundred a week rent.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
So that's fun. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
So but I did what I could to get out,
and I knew it was the right move to make.
And it's like very similar to this IBC thing. I
just knew I had to do it. And so we
got up here and it was struggle. It was the
struggles I took for granted on how I thought. I
didn't realize how hard is going to be moving state.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
Some moved here.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
I didn't have I had no friends, I had no family,
We had nothing. Right, So, navigating through that and meeting
and like I made the joke before, you know, a
friend of mine said to me, he goes, mate, Gold
Coast is sunny place for shady people, you know.
Speaker 6 (11:27):
So went through that running out of palm trees these
days with the amount of buildings they're putting up, but
they're still there.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
It's unreal, but it's you know. So we went for
all that, all deal.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
And then I found myself walking into a fight club
in Burley and.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
Wanted to start and start a fight. I wanted to fight.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
I want to see example from your kids in training
and rather than just being that dad just tell kids
to work hard, I want to lead by example and
get the best out of myself and be the best
for them too, And which navigated and then rolled into
obviously like me getting ready for a fight. Thank god
I didn't fight, because I ended up being my first
promotion as well. And I don't know how I thought
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I was going to fucking do both.
Speaker 6 (12:10):
But I whant to ask you something that because for
those listening, Dean, I caught up for a coffee and
just a quick month prior to coming in this morning,
so thank you for that.
Speaker 7 (12:22):
He actually shouted breakfast, I.
Speaker 6 (12:24):
Ain't I'll swallow me right now. He did, and it
was absolutely lovely. But what we did touch on was
exactly that you did say. You know you were fighting,
but you're also promoting. I didn't say much at the
table when we'll talk because we were amongst other things.
Haven't had another conversations, but it sort of has sat
(12:46):
with me in the relevance of how difficult that would
have been and really, how could you commit to a
proper fight camp whilst trying to.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
I had the blessing because obviously my coach at the
time was my partner, so Fids who introduced me to
the sport. Yeah, first took him over to He first
took me up to the first shot I'd ever experienced.
That was the Battle of the Reef and it was
the big NRL Footy fight night up there in Townsville,
and that was the that was the pinch me moment
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and said this is what I want to be.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
You know this is this is what I want to do.
And we were in the middle of planning.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Our first show, and so credit to him, I was
the apprentice, so I wouldn't call myself the promoter.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
I was.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
I was definitely the apprentice and learning the ropes and
look and granted to I've done a fantastic job.
Speaker 6 (13:36):
And a great man to learn from, absolutely of knowledge
and experience, absolutely without doubt.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Yeah, so he sort of that's why I was able
to be confident enough to think that I could have
done both. And thank god, like the opponent pulled out,
so I think it was about a week early, right,
and he said, he goes, do you want to find
another one?
Speaker 5 (13:57):
And I said, look, I'll be honest with you.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
I said, I'm more keen on the promoting side, Like,
if you and I are going to take this serious,
you don't need me fucking in there.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
Like he was trained.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
He had three or four fighters on our show that night, right,
so he's going to be in the back room wrapping
hands and warming up anyway.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
So I said, look, just cut it, let's do it.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
So we've done our first shirt the Taller Bud Recreational Center.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
Yeap, Yeah, and that was good. We sold out probably
six hundred tickets. Not bad for you.
Speaker 6 (14:22):
Four weeks in the stadium there. I've been there to
the they used to hold the national Multai events. Yeah,
that's right, the amateurs. Yeah, you know they can set.
Speaker 7 (14:30):
It up quite well.
Speaker 5 (14:31):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 6 (14:32):
It's a good venue because it's like it's stadium perfect.
You're looking down onto the ring. It's a little bit
like Tyler and I suppose if you go Lompini, the
old loomp Pini, Yeah, or even in Patia the stadium there,
you notice that, you know, it's all.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Up like that, yeah, flat, yeah, correct. But so we've
done that and that was that was great. Then we
we managed to step up and we've done a stand
sport show. We've done that with Tavita Pango Junior, Paul
Alcuzzo shaking early, Troy Pilcher. We haven't had Deisli Robertson
on there. That was the first.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
So we put on the first case Scott Deisley Robertson fight.
I like that. Ty Pilcher, Yeah great, great, rightly.
Speaker 6 (15:14):
I heard just as soon as I heard his name,
he's picked up and if you hear this shout out
and dropped in.
Speaker 7 (15:21):
He's a good dude, man, I'd like to talk to you.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
Yeah, he's a good I reckon.
Speaker 6 (15:23):
He's got a bit of a background story.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
Great story, great story to a piach.
Speaker 6 (15:27):
I'm calling you out.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
I'll give him a call after this and get him
to again him to give you a call. He's a
great human.
Speaker 7 (15:33):
Let's do that for sure.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
But so it was, it was a great show. Lost
a ship ton of money. We've done the wrong we
made the wrong move. This was just after that grandmother
got stabbed in Ipswich. I remember when she got sh Yeah. Right,
So we were we were really hell bent on trying
to create there's something for the town in a sense,
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like you know, I thought we'd get the locals poor,
you know, Taveta and that were going out and doing
campaigns with gloves up, knives down and that sort of stuff.
But like to be honest, we didn't get much support
from the locals whatsoever.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
Just was quite disappointing.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Like we put on you know, we spent a lot
of money there and tried to put a lot of effort.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
I was doing letter drops, man, I.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Was actually I actually got pamphlets and I was walking
around for three four hours a day to local shops
saying guys come.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
Down and look. It was probably me being naive apprentice promoter.
I'm thinking of having that attitude, well built it and
they'll come sort of thing. You know, That's what I
generally thought. But I did put in the leg work.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
I was out there three to five hours a day
handing pamphlets into shops and just doing whatever I could.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
But essentially just yeah, it failed. It was a big
fail for us.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
We then went on to do I think we did
another two shows after that, done a little gym show,
done well, and we've done another one down.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
At the Mermaid Tavern.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
I believe that was the first time we made any
fucking money out of right. So done a good pro
am show there and I think we made three thousand
dollars or like that.
Speaker 6 (17:11):
You talked about money being lost, and I think this
is an important thing because for anybody out there that's
actually wanting to start something, and look, D's level has
not just happened overnight. So you know, to be at
your level is phenomenal, but you've earned every step for
someone that's stepping into the space of and look, whether
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you choose to be another promoter, which me personally, I
think it's probably not the smartest idea purely for the
fact of it is a pretty stronghold on the on
the market when it comes to sporting promotions through combat
sports boxing order, you've really got to be somebody knowledgeable,
financially backed, resilient, thig skin and have a big set
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of nuts. Realistically, and I'm not talking gangster talk, but
this is the reality of it. You will get pushed
out very quickly. What did it take for you to
not feel like, fuck that hurt? We've lost straight up
X amount of dollars?
Speaker 5 (18:18):
I think, how will we you know what I mean?
Speaker 6 (18:21):
Is this how it's going to be? How many losses
are we going to take before it's actually going to
be we're not going to be able to pursue this,
or we've got to hang in there and hammer and.
Speaker 7 (18:32):
Whatever the fuck it's going to take.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
I think it's just more because that's a.
Speaker 6 (18:36):
Big sacrifice, especially as a family man.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Look, but to be honest with if you're like when
you're so for me, I've got such a great family.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
I've got a great base of my kids, my wife.
So whether we have we've all been broke before. Sure,
we've all been rich before. It doesn't change. I don't
really lose anything, if anything.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Okay, I don't drive a nice enough car for a
little while, or I've got to sell some of my
watches and you know, like but realistically strip it all
back and nothing changes.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
So for me, it's like I've never cared about money.
Speaker 7 (19:09):
I've never changed who you are.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
I mean, I don't care like we're going to have
it and we're not going to have it.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
I come from a household and parents where they.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
I want to say, worship money, but it wasn't worshiping
and said it was.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
That there always feared that they didn't have any.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
So for me, I've never even had that that mindset
like my parents are like, you're always trying to keep
up with the Jones. I said, no, no, no, the Jones
are going to try and keep up with me.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
Yeah. That was just always my mentality, like I don't
I'm going to go.
Speaker 6 (19:40):
So before these life coaches come out and told that
the thirty years of age, they knew how to fucking
give you the best advice to go and live your
life and how your mind should be triggered and thinking
whir and you know all these neuroscience fucking nobody's that
have got so much widely lived experience. Shut the fuck up, yeah, simple,
please shut the fuck up.
Speaker 7 (20:01):
Just stop.
Speaker 6 (20:03):
You was somebody whom, as a developing young man, always
had something greater in your own mindset that obviously people
may look at and say, yeah, right mate, correct, you're whatever, correct,
full of shit? Yeah yeah, you keep dreaming that sort
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of attitude, whereas you never once let that stop you
or your vision or your dream. You had self belief
to the point where no matter what anybody said, if anything,
I can use, these words probably built who you are
today because it gave you the resilience to not worry
about what others think but pursue what you believe is
(20:46):
your heart and dream.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
See. I always knew, It's funny enough.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
I always knew I was going to be that bloke
that someone would say, I'll use IBC for example, right.
I always knew that I was going to be that
bloke I said, you know the IBC. You know that's
Daniel McNab, that bloke. You fucking serious, I would screw
me in. Like I always knew, I didn't know on
what scale what was going to be. I just knew
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I was destined for something great, like I just you
just get that feeling. So that's why for me, I
knew something failed. I just knew that that wasn't the
thing that was.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
Going to work for me.
Speaker 6 (21:21):
But do you're a fucking humbleman like I'm not pissing
in your pocket here. We've we've we've known of each
other and had connection to each other through mutual parties,
but this is the first physical time we've engaged with
each other, sat down, shook hands, sat and had a.
Speaker 7 (21:38):
Meal, showed the fat, so to speak.
Speaker 6 (21:41):
One of the most humblest humans I've met. And I'm
not just saying it because you're sitting here with me.
Speaker 7 (21:45):
I thought you're a fuck with I'd just say it.
Speaker 6 (21:47):
You probably knocked me out across the table.
Speaker 7 (21:50):
Yeah, she got short.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
I only even have that.
Speaker 6 (21:57):
He got low and I'll be fucked or Jake's side
that you you've You've got this this aura about you
that show zero ego. It's just it's a pleasure to
be in your presence. Very humble. You just you're quietly spoken,
you speak very educated. When you use your words, the
(22:19):
choice words, they're not just said for the sake of speaking.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (22:25):
That there is something unique I think especially and I
feel like I can say, after now two hundred and
twenty eight guests and four and a half years of
doing these interviews, I think I have the right to
be able to sit back and know who's who, know.
Speaker 7 (22:40):
Who's shit and who's not.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
I feel very.
Speaker 6 (22:44):
Comfortable sitting with you right now now. I don't get
for a minute feel that you couldn't flip that coin
and be a very hard firm businessman in what you want.
If I was to sit here and tell you any
different about how you see or what you feel, I
could pitch you saying, Brent, thanks for your time, mate,
no worries. I'll see it on the big stage when
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I'm waving at you from the fucking middle of the ring.
That's the impression I get of you, is spot just
because I don't believe in you. Thanks for your time,
But as a humble man, you'll get up, you'll exit
the building. They'll be the last I see of you
until you're under the lights and I'm going fuck, I
had that chance, I had that chance to be beside him,
will work with him. Sure, that's a unique thing.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
That's because I concentrate on my journey. You don't concentrate
on what the other people.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
And my wife keeps me in check really.
Speaker 6 (23:35):
Well, so you stay in your own lane, that's right, And.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
That's like this whole thing with I'm getting a little
bit of pushback from more so the boxing community, and
that's because I know them the most and it's like,
you know, what are you trying to do to boxing?
Speaker 5 (23:51):
This has nothing to do with boxing?
Speaker 7 (23:53):
Can we talk about that at all?
Speaker 6 (23:54):
I mean, like I understand under contractual and please guys
understand today's conversation. Then's in a position now where he
has basically kicked one of the biggest goals in Australian
combat sport and that it is history.
Speaker 5 (24:15):
No one's done one, so I scored this.
Speaker 6 (24:18):
Don't feel that we're holding back about anything that we're discussing.
There obviously is certain legalities around what we can and
we can't disclose at this present moment, but I can
assure you of this. This listening today, and we will
have a second episode.
Speaker 7 (24:34):
There will be a third part and we've agreed to that.
Speaker 6 (24:36):
Down the track that's going to then talk about the
successes moving forward of what has been achieved by IBC.
So right now for this present moment, though, like where
where can we talk about? How far can we talk
into what, like you say, the boxing yep, the conversations
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around what their attitude is with IBS and.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
When we can go into all depths I want.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
I won't name names, I won't anyone, but there's various
people that are threatened almost and at the start, I
was sort of struggling to understand why, like because for me,
I don't want much to do with boxing. I gave
boxing two years of my life, and I think that
there's I don't think that's I think it's flogging a
(25:29):
dead horse, to be frank, That's why I created something new.
You know, this is what I want to concentrate on.
I don't mean to intrude on anyone. Anyone's more than
welcome on my platform. We structured it and built it
so boxes and Multai guys and everything can come over
like we're our own sanctioning body. So the records on
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IBC have nothing to do with their records anywhere else.
Speaker 5 (25:53):
It doesn't affect them.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Right, So it's but look, I think it's just in
terms of when someone at the start, I was I
was a laughing stock. A lot of them laughed. They said,
this isn't going to go nowhere. Bah blah blah blah blah.
Come August twenty eighth, we blow the fucking roof off
the arena of our back spectacular.
Speaker 7 (26:14):
You know absolutely, And so did you find more?
Speaker 6 (26:17):
And I don't want to sort of once again throw
anyone in the bathroom and ask him for naming. But
as a collective there was somewhat of a brick wall
being built up. So what you were trying to achieve.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
I didn't notice it. I didn't notice it.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Straight after, I've got a lot of praise be like
that was so good, well done. And this is what
I've sort of noticed in a pack. I actually said
this to me, and he goes, what you'll notice.
Speaker 6 (26:46):
Were jet up today, big big shout out of pack
and salmon, all the crew down in Sydney, love you guys,
geat up, get amongst the peeps.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
So so what he did he was explaining to me,
and he goes, what happens is with a success, you'll
see people if it's easily obtained in their mind, they're supportive.
Speaker 5 (27:06):
So it's like you know you got this well done, man,
that's so good. You've done your first show. That's great,
you know, like well done, and oh you're planning your
second one. How good's that? Like?
Speaker 1 (27:14):
So pratty and guy's coming over. Wait, what do you
mean you've got a network deal or Fox? I's just
signed what why the fuck are they signing for?
Speaker 5 (27:25):
What are they here?
Speaker 1 (27:26):
So because it's you're starting to surpass and you're trying
to achieve things that these guys couldn't do or they've
tried to and have it and stuff like that.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
That's when it becomes It starts to become.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Ugly, you know, which is unfortunate. But like you said that,
this is my path. I've paved my own way, and
that's what I concentrate on. At the end of the day,
I go home to who matters. Whatever they think of
me is the most important.
Speaker 6 (27:56):
Everything else you've seen there to me, he's a man
that keeps his circle very tight.
Speaker 7 (28:00):
Definitely, I personally like to live that way.
Speaker 6 (28:04):
And that's obviously many years of experience and learning that
in life, not everyone you mate, and that generally.
Speaker 7 (28:12):
Most people are only there for the purpose or a good.
Speaker 6 (28:14):
Time until the hard times really come.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
You only then.
Speaker 6 (28:19):
See the truth about who's really in your corner.
Speaker 5 (28:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (28:22):
Correct, you obviously have experienced that most definitely. And I
find the smaller my circle and the better than my choice.
I think the word is who I choose to be
in that circle is where the values at. You know,
people speak of aligning yourself of like minded people.
Speaker 7 (28:43):
You know you'll.
Speaker 6 (28:44):
Grow together with other persons who have visions or visionaries.
What is your thoughts around that as opposed to And
it is a fair question. Why I ask this is
because some people do get their nose out of joint.
And it might be someone you're known for twenty five years,
but all of a sudden, gone from twenty five years
(29:06):
of eating at your table, watching your kids go to
your phone. Fairly rings you don't get invited on you,
And it's not you that's feeling that disconnection as in
pushing them away. They're pushing you away because their attitude
is a fucking he's too cool now, we just won't
worry about ringing him sort of.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
The thing you realize most is that once they that,
once those relationship come to light and they leave, you
realize you never lost anything.
Speaker 5 (29:30):
Yeah, you don't feel it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Like, if it was a genuine relationship, you're like, fuck,
I miss that guy. Yeah, you don't notice that they're
actually missing because it was never genuine in the first place.
I live by I do everything genuinely right, and I
do it with no ill intentions.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
So I'm just I just am who I am.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
So I have a very big faith in the fact
that whatever I do, I know it's going to work out.
Like I just know it's going to work out because
I'm doing it with the right intentions. You do everything
with the right intention, it'll eventually work out.
Speaker 5 (30:03):
Am I tend to.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Clusters ship for a little bit, sure, but then sure
enough the fog settles, and you've got a clear path
in your seat, and you've just left behind what you
didn't need in your life in the first place.
Speaker 6 (30:16):
I like the way you just explained that, and you
know the fog settles. I mean, asked me two years ago,
and I would have been sitting here telling me.
Speaker 7 (30:22):
You go, fuck, this is this is fun.
Speaker 6 (30:26):
That advice had been given to me several times. Just
hanging there.
Speaker 7 (30:29):
You get through it, You get through it.
Speaker 6 (30:31):
Well, you've got to get through it today to get
to tomorrow. Yeah, so it's all good and well in
hindsight saying listen, I've been down that road and this
is this is more towards you listeners out there in
the way that I wanted to get this across. As
you may have felt that that was a tough time
(30:51):
you are going through and I'm not taking it away
from you. Right now is a tough time for you.
But it's cliche because there is light at the end
of the time.
Speaker 5 (31:02):
Absolute Once again, ask me.
Speaker 6 (31:04):
To years ago I told you to get fucked like
I would have gone up. That's how am I going
to do this? How am I going to get it?
How am I to get through this? And I think
most of us do have those thoughts, and it's not
until we actually realize and get through that and the
resilience that it builds within us. And sometimes you come
away with nothing but that it may take emotionally just
(31:29):
drain you, financially, destroy you, relationship wise.
Speaker 5 (31:34):
Break you.
Speaker 6 (31:34):
Yeah, they're they're they're true facts that that is every
chance of happening.
Speaker 5 (31:41):
But at the same time too, that you don't have
to go far to look and there is someone always
works off. That's that's how I've always looked at it,
like my worlds for people.
Speaker 6 (31:53):
Get funny when you say that, though, Like I've had
people literally pull me up, like I've posted something about
being grateful, I'm thinking about that there are other people
in the world that are worse. And I've absolutely been
fucking hammered in the comments because I have made a
comment about other persons being worse off than where I'm at.
Speaker 5 (32:14):
I think makes no sense to me.
Speaker 7 (32:17):
It doesn't make fucking sense.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
They've got a good life. If that's upset them, they must, like.
Speaker 6 (32:22):
You know, like if I'm at my worst and you know,
and I don't want to go down the rabbit hole
of what's going on overseas, but if we take a
moment and just seriously think about, you know, what truly
is happening in the loss of life And I'm in
life as in children and families losing loved ones living
for the rest of their life because people have been
(32:43):
taken from them by no choice or no natural causes.
Speaker 7 (32:47):
Yeah, out of spite and greed.
Speaker 6 (32:50):
But how does one then, you know, keep a peace
of mind within?
Speaker 7 (32:55):
And I do put it back to faith.
Speaker 6 (32:58):
I think that there's a lot of faith that has
been used, and thank God for it that gotten so
many people through hardship to believe that there is light
at the end of the tunnel.
Speaker 5 (33:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Look, I don't think that we have to look overseas.
Go for a walk down surface Paradise at eight thirty
at night, and you see the kids that are living
in a tent and their mums are smackheads, and you know, like,
you don't have to go far, you don't have to
even look at look that far.
Speaker 5 (33:25):
Just have a look at have a look at your neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
So, I mean, it's things are We're true lucky man,
We're like if the worst I've got to complain about
is that we're going for a really a hard time financially,
or you know I didn't get the fighter I wanted,
or I didn't like pinch yourself, mate, grow up, assess
have a good perspective on life.
Speaker 5 (33:47):
Everything you've gone through.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
You know, at sixteen seventeen years of age, where you
go for your first heartbreak, you think.
Speaker 5 (33:52):
It's the worst thing in the fucking world. It was.
Look back at it now though, and look at chill
my heart.
Speaker 7 (33:59):
She was gorgeous, she was a year old.
Speaker 5 (34:01):
She is a nettle plank.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
She was sixty, but but now it's it's it doesn't
mean as much because.
Speaker 5 (34:09):
I remember what was now. But that's the perspective.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
You've got to remember those mildstones to just remind yourself
how half you are, just you know, remind how tough
you are and how resilient we are.
Speaker 5 (34:24):
As you know, we're getting raised and.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Becoming such a soft society, you know, and it's just
the reality.
Speaker 5 (34:32):
And we need to encourage.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Kids to go through the hard yards because in twenty
years time, thirty years time, what are we like.
Speaker 5 (34:40):
I'll give you a perfect example. And I know we're
going way off topic now.
Speaker 6 (34:42):
No, no, brother, this is the clink. And this is
the beautiful thing about the clink is we always come.
Speaker 7 (34:46):
Back to its purpose. So it is relative.
Speaker 6 (34:49):
What you're saying, however you're saying is relative, and somebody
listening out there right now is going to relate or
resonnate with where we're headn't.
Speaker 5 (34:57):
So well, look it's open.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
I took my kids, say, like going to bounce right
the trampoline park right, So I take them the bounce
and I have a there now and I'll shoot you know,
there is more fucking parents in the kids bullpit than
there is fucking kids, And.
Speaker 5 (35:13):
I'm sitting what the fuck he said that water mark?
What the fuck is going on for the record.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
I'm done trying to make YAU comfortable for the record.
You ain't trying to grow downy stuff for.
Speaker 5 (35:30):
You for the record.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Live on me, going hard the way for the record.
Ain't trying to make no time to waste for.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
The record, for the record, for the for the record,
for the recon for the record, for the record.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Yeah,
Approach production.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
All right, let's lock in on this, okay.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
For the record, I don't try and make you uncomfortable
for the record. You ain't trying to grow downer stuff
for your for the record, laugh on me going all
the way for the record. I ain't trying to link,
no trying to waste for.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
The record, for the record, for the record, for the rate,
for the record, record.
Speaker 5 (00:49):
For the record.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Don't try and make you uncomfortable.
Speaker 6 (00:54):
Welcome back to the Clink. It has been a minute,
and I just want to say to everybody out there they're
tongue in there, thank you very very much. Nine weeks
ago I laid my dear to rest and sadly it
took its toll. And I'm feeling really really good at
the moment and feel that because of you, the listener
(01:15):
out there wants to hear more of the Clink that
I must continue it. So a massive thank you to
everybody out there who has engaged in any of my
posts on my social media's. I did run a little
vote and this has a lot to do with why
I'm sitting here today. I want to say a massive
thank you to Sideway Surf. You have been phenomenal in
(01:37):
keeping us afloat and guys, remember you can always go
into any one of their stores, jump online, sideway surf
and hit the clothing section one percent better every day,
clinking apparel. Get in there and grab it to everybody
that's wearing it, and I'm getting sent lots of photos.
Speaker 7 (01:55):
Thank you.
Speaker 6 (01:56):
It means the world. It has a positive message there
and that is the whole point of it, getting a
message out there to make a difference. Today's guest is
somebody whom how can I say you, Guys that have
listened to the show for many, many years now realize
I ain't get too much of a heart on when
it comes to too many people. But today's guest is
(02:18):
someone I am so excited and pumped to have on.
It is a very special moment. I believe that I'm
one of, if not the first, to have this wonderful
man sit down and have an open conversation about what
we're about to discuss. It is something that is going
to be huge in the world. I believe it's already
(02:40):
taken off now nationally, which we'll get into in the conversation.
His name is Daniel Mack. He's from Melbourne originally and
He's a man with a great story that is nothing
but absolute success to date, and he hasn't even begun.
But I can assure you that this was not a
(03:01):
story that started from humble beginnings and was fed and
everything was all honky dory.
Speaker 7 (03:08):
That's not true at all.
Speaker 6 (03:09):
This man has done the hard yards. We're not sitting here.
Speaker 7 (03:12):
Today to discuss his past.
Speaker 6 (03:14):
But what we're going to do is we're going to
touch on a few little things and talk about what
is happening now. D Dan, Welcome to the clinkmate to
have you here.
Speaker 7 (03:27):
You are today.
Speaker 6 (03:28):
Here representing your business.
Speaker 7 (03:30):
International Brawling Championship's.
Speaker 6 (03:34):
Brother, You've just come out of nowhere. Let's be honest.
It's been one show on the Gold Coast in a
fantastic arena, fucking horse arena. To start with. It wasn't
a square ring, it wasn't an octagon. It was something different.
(03:56):
The way that it's structured. The violence, and when I
say the violence, the controlled violence, which we'll talk about later,
because I don't want anybody out there going oh Island
this way now, it's not about that. This has so
much great purpose and meaning to making change and why
I truly want to have you on here, because the
clink is about that. We're not here to glorify people's
(04:19):
crimes and people sort of you know, carry his ons
and all this sort of shit. It's not what we're about.
What we are about is giving people the right tools
in life to be able to grow.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
Well.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Look, first of all, thanks again for having me, mate,
appreciate it. And sorry about you lost of your brothers.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
That's very sad.
Speaker 6 (04:36):
Thank you.
Speaker 7 (04:37):
I appreciate that.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
Look, mate, we are backtrack.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Started off boxing promoting a couple of years back. Have
my slug at that and it was a bumpy up
and down road and I like that.
Speaker 7 (04:51):
That's how that slug.
Speaker 6 (04:53):
Yeah, well that's well, you're not the pretty fighter.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
It was a slug. Definitely not the pretty fighter. Mate.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
I come from a spectator's perspective, not a not a
fighter's perspective. So look, so we've done the boxing promotions
and honestly, like, for the first time in my life,
I've had a lot of businesses and always try how
to stab it success and trying to be successful, and
this was the first time I'd found something that I
(05:21):
had a calling for and I guess like I really
really wanted to be a promoter. So my old partner
at the time and him and I had a real
slug at it and went through the works and lost
a shit ton of money and went for all the
emotions of it all, and.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
Then we sort of parted ways.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
And it was just after Christmas, around February March. We
sat there and I said to my wife, I said,
you know.
Speaker 7 (05:48):
What, I said, that's this year.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
Then, yeah, that's this year.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Yeah, yeah, So yeah, we just started the idea come
about in March, started drawing the pens what we call
it now, which is our square cage.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
I said to my.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Wife, I said, I'm going to have a red hot
crack at this, and she goes, mate, just go, just
let's do it.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
And we did.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
And then sure enough, like you said, like, we've done
the one show and all of a sudden, we've got
a Foxtel KO main event deal and we've been picked
up by thirteen international broadcast partners and it's all happening
almost too fast, you know. And for a bloke that's
like that, it's I call myself half.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
A promoter, you know.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
I mean, I've only been around a couple of years,
and I was an apprentice for most of it, you know,
so can.
Speaker 6 (06:34):
We You said it's it's coming fast now, yeah, and
we both use that words. Let's just slow it down
just a little bit for a minute because you spoke
of your wife and I won't go into family details.
It's not something unless obviously you know what I mean.
It's something, but if I may, just out of respect, Yeah,
you went through some hardships as a family the back
(06:57):
of COVID. You were in Melbourne financially pretty well, hit
rock bottom.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
Yep.
Speaker 6 (07:06):
You came up with a bit of an idea through
a suggestion through someone else that then you backed once
again believed in You found yourself steady on your feet
for you and your family to be able to make
a better choice, and that choice was to move to Queensland.
(07:27):
How was that period committing giving all and saying, hey, listen,
we need to take this step as a family, knowing
obviously you have a wife that's rock solid and there
beside you definitely, and credit.
Speaker 7 (07:45):
To you, your beautiful wife.
Speaker 6 (07:47):
I haven't met you, but I know you'll listen to
this because women like that a few and far between.
And that's no disrespect to any of my listeners out there.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
This is a fact.
Speaker 6 (07:56):
There's no point bullshitting about and look, same as men,
we can be pricks. You're blessed you have a rock
solid a wife who believes in her husband. How was
that just packing up your lives in Melbourne, running basically
on just what you hope would need to get to
(08:16):
the Gold Coast, which is not a cheap place to live. Yeah,
in one of the worst periods that our generation has
ever seen. Yeah, to then come up here and as
someone who lives here knows how hard it was to
fucking even get a rental and purchase How did you
how did this actually sort of navigate your way through that?
Speaker 1 (08:35):
I think it was a I think it was a
do or die moment. I think going through COVID and
watching what my like, my son spent the first year
and a half of his school life at home on
a fucking iPad, I.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
Said like, okay, this is just homeschool.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
No, no, just because we were locked out, lockdown from
COVID right from yeah, no, I mean Malbourne.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
It was like it was a Nazi camp, you know
what I mean? It was. It was ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
So he was the only one in school. I had
another one that was starting the year later, and I said,
I go listen. I'd come up to Gold Coast because
at the time we were looking to open one of
those air locker gyms. I was going to do one
with Todd Carney in a couple of mates, right, yeah.
Speaker 6 (09:14):
I went to the first one in Curumba.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Right, So we were going to do the one in
I think we had the the rights for.
Speaker 7 (09:24):
The kid.
Speaker 6 (09:24):
There was a couple of NURL players that went through, correct,
right after the Kuruman one.
Speaker 7 (09:29):
Originally I think it started.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
We were going to be the we were going to
be the first one on the coast. So this is
before that even built.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
The Krumba one. Right.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
So I was flying up during COVID and so I'd
spent some time up here, and I was like walking
through Burley and I'm like, man, like the.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
Kids are riding their bikes. They're not sitting on their.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
iPad like I felt like I was in Melbourne back
in the two thousand days, Like I felt like when
I was a kid riding around my bike and I said,
there you go home and every kid's on their iPad,
like no one goes outside.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
It's the weather as miserable as we know, like so,
And I said to my wife, I said, you know what, I.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Said, all the money's moving north. I said, it's just
going like you could just see it. I said, we
need to get out of Melbourne, so we need to
get out of there.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
So I said, you.
Speaker 6 (10:14):
Know, you just fucked our real estate.
Speaker 7 (10:16):
Yeah, playing simple.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
To be fair, I got I got here.
Speaker 6 (10:20):
Afterwards we set our fucking Reynolds twenty. You see our
sales through the fuck. I've had more money than anyone
up here, because you're all selling up, making millions down
there in profit and coming up very clean up credit.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
Is mate, look to be fair. I came up after
it was fucked. I didn't. I didn't get that.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
I didn't get the jump on anyone because I moved
up here, and I moved into a shitty little four
call at four it was three bedroom and a study
home and I was paying eight hundred a week rent.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
So that's fun. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
So but I did what I could to get out,
and I knew it was the right move to make.
And it's like very similar to this IBC thing. I
just knew I had to do it. And so we
got up here and it was struggle. It was the
struggles I took for granted on how I thought. I
didn't realize how hard is going to be moving state.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
Some moved here.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
I didn't have I had no friends, I had no family,
We had nothing. Right, So, navigating through that and meeting
and like I made the joke before, you know, a
friend of mine said to me, he goes, mate, Gold
Coast is sunny place for shady people, you know.
Speaker 6 (11:27):
So went through that running out of palm trees these
days with the amount of buildings they're putting up, but
they're still there.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
It's unreal, but it's you know. So we went for
all that, all deal.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
And then I found myself walking into a fight club
in Burley and.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
Wanted to start and start a fight. I wanted to fight.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
I want to see example from your kids in training
and rather than just being that dad just tell kids
to work hard, I want to lead by example and
get the best out of myself and be the best
for them too, And which navigated and then rolled into
obviously like me getting ready for a fight. Thank god
I didn't fight, because I ended up being my first
promotion as well. And I don't know how I thought
(12:08):
I was going to fucking do both.
Speaker 6 (12:10):
But I whant to ask you something that because for
those listening, Dean, I caught up for a coffee and
just a quick month prior to coming in this morning,
so thank you for that.
Speaker 7 (12:22):
He actually shouted breakfast, I.
Speaker 6 (12:24):
Ain't I'll swallow me right now. He did, and it
was absolutely lovely. But what we did touch on was
exactly that you did say. You know you were fighting,
but you're also promoting. I didn't say much at the
table when we'll talk because we were amongst other things.
Haven't had another conversations, but it sort of has sat
(12:46):
with me in the relevance of how difficult that would
have been and really, how could you commit to a
proper fight camp whilst trying to.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
I had the blessing because obviously my coach at the
time was my partner, so Fids who introduced me to
the sport. Yeah, first took him over to He first
took me up to the first shot I'd ever experienced.
That was the Battle of the Reef and it was
the big NRL Footy fight night up there in Townsville,
and that was the that was the pinch me moment
(13:19):
and said this is what I want to be.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
You know this is this is what I want to do.
And we were in the middle of planning.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Our first show, and so credit to him, I was
the apprentice, so I wouldn't call myself the promoter.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
I was.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
I was definitely the apprentice and learning the ropes and
look and granted to I've done a fantastic job.
Speaker 6 (13:36):
And a great man to learn from, absolutely of knowledge
and experience, absolutely without doubt.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Yeah, so he sort of that's why I was able
to be confident enough to think that I could have
done both. And thank god, like the opponent pulled out,
so I think it was about a week early, right,
and he said, he goes, do you want to find
another one?
Speaker 5 (13:57):
And I said, look, I'll be honest with you.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
I said, I'm more keen on the promoting side, Like,
if you and I are going to take this serious,
you don't need me fucking in there.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
Like he was trained.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
He had three or four fighters on our show that night, right,
so he's going to be in the back room wrapping
hands and warming up anyway.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
So I said, look, just cut it, let's do it.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
So we've done our first shirt the Taller Bud Recreational Center.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
Yeap, Yeah, and that was good. We sold out probably
six hundred tickets. Not bad for you.
Speaker 6 (14:22):
Four weeks in the stadium there. I've been there to
the they used to hold the national Multai events. Yeah,
that's right, the amateurs. Yeah, you know they can set.
Speaker 7 (14:30):
It up quite well.
Speaker 5 (14:31):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 6 (14:32):
It's a good venue because it's like it's stadium perfect.
You're looking down onto the ring. It's a little bit
like Tyler and I suppose if you go Lompini, the
old loomp Pini, Yeah, or even in Patia the stadium there,
you notice that, you know, it's all.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Up like that, yeah, flat, yeah, correct. But so we've
done that and that was that was great. Then we
we managed to step up and we've done a stand
sport show. We've done that with Tavita Pango Junior, Paul
Alcuzzo shaking early, Troy Pilcher. We haven't had Deisli Robertson
on there. That was the first.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
So we put on the first case Scott Deisley Robertson fight.
I like that. Ty Pilcher, Yeah great, great, rightly.
Speaker 6 (15:14):
I heard just as soon as I heard his name,
he's picked up and if you hear this shout out
and dropped in.
Speaker 7 (15:21):
He's a good dude, man, I'd like to talk to you.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
Yeah, he's a good I reckon.
Speaker 6 (15:23):
He's got a bit of a background story.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
Great story, great story to a piach.
Speaker 6 (15:27):
I'm calling you out.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
I'll give him a call after this and get him
to again him to give you a call. He's a
great human.
Speaker 7 (15:33):
Let's do that for sure.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
But so it was, it was a great show. Lost
a ship ton of money. We've done the wrong we
made the wrong move. This was just after that grandmother
got stabbed in Ipswich. I remember when she got sh Yeah. Right,
So we were we were really hell bent on trying
to create there's something for the town in a sense,
(15:59):
like you know, I thought we'd get the locals poor,
you know, Taveta and that were going out and doing
campaigns with gloves up, knives down and that sort of stuff.
But like to be honest, we didn't get much support
from the locals whatsoever.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
Just was quite disappointing.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Like we put on you know, we spent a lot
of money there and tried to put a lot of effort.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
I was doing letter drops, man, I.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Was actually I actually got pamphlets and I was walking
around for three four hours a day to local shops
saying guys come.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
Down and look. It was probably me being naive apprentice promoter.
I'm thinking of having that attitude, well built it and
they'll come sort of thing. You know, That's what I
generally thought. But I did put in the leg work.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
I was out there three to five hours a day
handing pamphlets into shops and just doing whatever I could.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
But essentially just yeah, it failed. It was a big
fail for us.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
We then went on to do I think we did
another two shows after that, done a little gym show,
done well, and we've done another one down.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
At the Mermaid Tavern.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
I believe that was the first time we made any
fucking money out of right. So done a good pro
am show there and I think we made three thousand
dollars or like that.
Speaker 6 (17:11):
You talked about money being lost, and I think this
is an important thing because for anybody out there that's
actually wanting to start something, and look, D's level has
not just happened overnight. So you know, to be at
your level is phenomenal, but you've earned every step for
someone that's stepping into the space of and look, whether
(17:33):
you choose to be another promoter, which me personally, I
think it's probably not the smartest idea purely for the
fact of it is a pretty stronghold on the on
the market when it comes to sporting promotions through combat
sports boxing order, you've really got to be somebody knowledgeable,
financially backed, resilient, thig skin and have a big set
(17:58):
of nuts. Realistically, and I'm not talking gangster talk, but
this is the reality of it. You will get pushed
out very quickly. What did it take for you to
not feel like, fuck that hurt? We've lost straight up
X amount of dollars?
Speaker 5 (18:18):
I think, how will we you know what I mean?
Speaker 6 (18:21):
Is this how it's going to be? How many losses
are we going to take before it's actually going to
be we're not going to be able to pursue this,
or we've got to hang in there and hammer and.
Speaker 7 (18:32):
Whatever the fuck it's going to take.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
I think it's just more because that's a.
Speaker 6 (18:36):
Big sacrifice, especially as a family man.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Look, but to be honest with if you're like when
you're so for me, I've got such a great family.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
I've got a great base of my kids, my wife.
So whether we have we've all been broke before. Sure,
we've all been rich before. It doesn't change. I don't
really lose anything, if anything.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Okay, I don't drive a nice enough car for a
little while, or I've got to sell some of my
watches and you know, like but realistically strip it all
back and nothing changes.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
So for me, it's like I've never cared about money.
Speaker 7 (19:09):
I've never changed who you are.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
I mean, I don't care like we're going to have
it and we're not going to have it.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
I come from a household and parents where they.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
I want to say, worship money, but it wasn't worshiping
and said it was.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
That there always feared that they didn't have any.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
So for me, I've never even had that that mindset
like my parents are like, you're always trying to keep
up with the Jones. I said, no, no, no, the Jones
are going to try and keep up with me.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
Yeah. That was just always my mentality, like I don't
I'm going to go.
Speaker 6 (19:40):
So before these life coaches come out and told that
the thirty years of age, they knew how to fucking
give you the best advice to go and live your
life and how your mind should be triggered and thinking
whir and you know all these neuroscience fucking nobody's that
have got so much widely lived experience. Shut the fuck up, yeah, simple,
please shut the fuck up.
Speaker 7 (20:01):
Just stop.
Speaker 6 (20:03):
You was somebody whom, as a developing young man, always
had something greater in your own mindset that obviously people
may look at and say, yeah, right mate, correct, you're whatever, correct,
full of shit? Yeah yeah, you keep dreaming that sort
(20:24):
of attitude, whereas you never once let that stop you
or your vision or your dream. You had self belief
to the point where no matter what anybody said, if anything,
I can use, these words probably built who you are
today because it gave you the resilience to not worry
about what others think but pursue what you believe is
(20:46):
your heart and dream.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
See. I always knew, It's funny enough.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
I always knew I was going to be that bloke
that someone would say, I'll use IBC for example, right.
I always knew that I was going to be that
bloke I said, you know the IBC. You know that's
Daniel McNab, that bloke. You fucking serious, I would screw
me in. Like I always knew, I didn't know on
what scale what was going to be. I just knew
(21:09):
I was destined for something great, like I just you
just get that feeling. So that's why for me, I
knew something failed. I just knew that that wasn't the
thing that was.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
Going to work for me.
Speaker 6 (21:21):
But do you're a fucking humbleman like I'm not pissing
in your pocket here. We've we've we've known of each
other and had connection to each other through mutual parties,
but this is the first physical time we've engaged with
each other, sat down, shook hands, sat and had a.
Speaker 7 (21:38):
Meal, showed the fat, so to speak.
Speaker 6 (21:41):
One of the most humblest humans I've met. And I'm
not just saying it because you're sitting here with me.
Speaker 7 (21:45):
I thought you're a fuck with I'd just say it.
Speaker 6 (21:47):
You probably knocked me out across the table.
Speaker 7 (21:50):
Yeah, she got short.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
I only even have that.
Speaker 6 (21:57):
He got low and I'll be fucked or Jake's side
that you you've You've got this this aura about you
that show zero ego. It's just it's a pleasure to
be in your presence. Very humble. You just you're quietly spoken,
you speak very educated. When you use your words, the
(22:19):
choice words, they're not just said for the sake of speaking.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (22:25):
That there is something unique I think especially and I
feel like I can say, after now two hundred and
twenty eight guests and four and a half years of
doing these interviews, I think I have the right to
be able to sit back and know who's who, know.
Speaker 7 (22:40):
Who's shit and who's not.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
I feel very.
Speaker 6 (22:44):
Comfortable sitting with you right now now. I don't get
for a minute feel that you couldn't flip that coin
and be a very hard firm businessman in what you want.
If I was to sit here and tell you any
different about how you see or what you feel, I
could pitch you saying, Brent, thanks for your time, mate,
no worries. I'll see it on the big stage when
(23:06):
I'm waving at you from the fucking middle of the ring.
That's the impression I get of you, is spot just
because I don't believe in you. Thanks for your time,
But as a humble man, you'll get up, you'll exit
the building. They'll be the last I see of you
until you're under the lights and I'm going fuck, I
had that chance, I had that chance to be beside him,
will work with him. Sure, that's a unique thing.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
That's because I concentrate on my journey. You don't concentrate
on what the other people.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
And my wife keeps me in check really.
Speaker 6 (23:35):
Well, so you stay in your own lane, that's right, And.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
That's like this whole thing with I'm getting a little
bit of pushback from more so the boxing community, and
that's because I know them the most and it's like,
you know, what are you trying to do to boxing?
Speaker 5 (23:51):
This has nothing to do with boxing?
Speaker 7 (23:53):
Can we talk about that at all?
Speaker 6 (23:54):
I mean, like I understand under contractual and please guys
understand today's conversation. Then's in a position now where he
has basically kicked one of the biggest goals in Australian
combat sport and that it is history.
Speaker 5 (24:15):
No one's done one, so I scored this.
Speaker 6 (24:18):
Don't feel that we're holding back about anything that we're discussing.
There obviously is certain legalities around what we can and
we can't disclose at this present moment, but I can
assure you of this. This listening today, and we will
have a second episode.
Speaker 7 (24:34):
There will be a third part and we've agreed to that.
Speaker 6 (24:36):
Down the track that's going to then talk about the
successes moving forward of what has been achieved by IBC.
So right now for this present moment, though, like where
where can we talk about? How far can we talk
into what, like you say, the boxing yep, the conversations
(24:59):
around what their attitude is with IBS and.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
When we can go into all depths I want.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
I won't name names, I won't anyone, but there's various
people that are threatened almost and at the start, I
was sort of struggling to understand why, like because for me,
I don't want much to do with boxing. I gave
boxing two years of my life, and I think that
there's I don't think that's I think it's flogging a
(25:29):
dead horse, to be frank, That's why I created something new.
You know, this is what I want to concentrate on.
I don't mean to intrude on anyone. Anyone's more than
welcome on my platform. We structured it and built it
so boxes and Multai guys and everything can come over
like we're our own sanctioning body. So the records on
(25:49):
IBC have nothing to do with their records anywhere else.
Speaker 5 (25:53):
It doesn't affect them.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Right, So it's but look, I think it's just in
terms of when someone at the start, I was I
was a laughing stock. A lot of them laughed. They said,
this isn't going to go nowhere. Bah blah blah blah blah.
Come August twenty eighth, we blow the fucking roof off
the arena of our back spectacular.
Speaker 7 (26:14):
You know absolutely, And so did you find more?
Speaker 6 (26:17):
And I don't want to sort of once again throw
anyone in the bathroom and ask him for naming. But
as a collective there was somewhat of a brick wall
being built up. So what you were trying to achieve.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
I didn't notice it. I didn't notice it.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Straight after, I've got a lot of praise be like
that was so good, well done. And this is what
I've sort of noticed in a pack. I actually said
this to me, and he goes, what you'll notice.
Speaker 6 (26:46):
Were jet up today, big big shout out of pack
and salmon, all the crew down in Sydney, love you guys,
geat up, get amongst the peeps.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
So so what he did he was explaining to me,
and he goes, what happens is with a success, you'll
see people if it's easily obtained in their mind, they're supportive.
Speaker 5 (27:06):
So it's like you know you got this well done, man,
that's so good. You've done your first show. That's great,
you know, like well done, and oh you're planning your
second one. How good's that? Like?
Speaker 1 (27:14):
So pratty and guy's coming over. Wait, what do you
mean you've got a network deal or Fox? I's just
signed what why the fuck are they signing for?
Speaker 5 (27:25):
What are they here?
Speaker 1 (27:26):
So because it's you're starting to surpass and you're trying
to achieve things that these guys couldn't do or they've
tried to and have it and stuff like that.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
That's when it becomes It starts to become.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Ugly, you know, which is unfortunate. But like you said that,
this is my path. I've paved my own way, and
that's what I concentrate on. At the end of the day,
I go home to who matters. Whatever they think of
me is the most important.
Speaker 6 (27:56):
Everything else you've seen there to me, he's a man
that keeps his circle very tight.
Speaker 7 (28:00):
Definitely, I personally like to live that way.
Speaker 6 (28:04):
And that's obviously many years of experience and learning that
in life, not everyone you mate, and that generally.
Speaker 7 (28:12):
Most people are only there for the purpose or a good.
Speaker 6 (28:14):
Time until the hard times really come.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
You only then.
Speaker 6 (28:19):
See the truth about who's really in your corner.
Speaker 5 (28:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (28:22):
Correct, you obviously have experienced that most definitely. And I
find the smaller my circle and the better than my choice.
I think the word is who I choose to be
in that circle is where the values at. You know,
people speak of aligning yourself of like minded people.
Speaker 7 (28:43):
You know you'll.
Speaker 6 (28:44):
Grow together with other persons who have visions or visionaries.
What is your thoughts around that as opposed to And
it is a fair question. Why I ask this is
because some people do get their nose out of joint.
And it might be someone you're known for twenty five years,
but all of a sudden, gone from twenty five years
(29:06):
of eating at your table, watching your kids go to
your phone. Fairly rings you don't get invited on you,
And it's not you that's feeling that disconnection as in
pushing them away. They're pushing you away because their attitude
is a fucking he's too cool now, we just won't
worry about ringing him sort of.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
The thing you realize most is that once they that,
once those relationship come to light and they leave, you
realize you never lost anything.
Speaker 5 (29:30):
Yeah, you don't feel it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Like, if it was a genuine relationship, you're like, fuck,
I miss that guy. Yeah, you don't notice that they're
actually missing because it was never genuine in the first place.
I live by I do everything genuinely right, and I
do it with no ill intentions.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
So I'm just I just am who I am.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
So I have a very big faith in the fact
that whatever I do, I know it's going to work out.
Like I just know it's going to work out because
I'm doing it with the right intentions. You do everything
with the right intention, it'll eventually work out.
Speaker 5 (30:03):
Am I tend to.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Clusters ship for a little bit, sure, but then sure
enough the fog settles, and you've got a clear path
in your seat, and you've just left behind what you
didn't need in your life in the first place.
Speaker 6 (30:16):
I like the way you just explained that, and you
know the fog settles. I mean, asked me two years ago,
and I would have been sitting here telling me.
Speaker 7 (30:22):
You go, fuck, this is this is fun.
Speaker 6 (30:26):
That advice had been given to me several times. Just
hanging there.
Speaker 7 (30:29):
You get through it, You get through it.
Speaker 6 (30:31):
Well, you've got to get through it today to get
to tomorrow. Yeah, so it's all good and well in
hindsight saying listen, I've been down that road and this
is this is more towards you listeners out there in
the way that I wanted to get this across. As
you may have felt that that was a tough time
(30:51):
you are going through and I'm not taking it away
from you. Right now is a tough time for you.
But it's cliche because there is light at the end
of the time.
Speaker 5 (31:02):
Absolute Once again, ask me.
Speaker 6 (31:04):
To years ago I told you to get fucked like
I would have gone up. That's how am I going
to do this? How am I going to get it?
How am I to get through this? And I think
most of us do have those thoughts, and it's not
until we actually realize and get through that and the
resilience that it builds within us. And sometimes you come
away with nothing but that it may take emotionally just
(31:29):
drain you, financially, destroy you, relationship wise.
Speaker 5 (31:34):
Break you.
Speaker 6 (31:34):
Yeah, they're they're they're true facts that that is every
chance of happening.
Speaker 5 (31:41):
But at the same time too, that you don't have
to go far to look and there is someone always
works off. That's that's how I've always looked at it,
like my worlds for people.
Speaker 6 (31:53):
Get funny when you say that, though, Like I've had
people literally pull me up, like I've posted something about
being grateful, I'm thinking about that there are other people
in the world that are worse. And I've absolutely been
fucking hammered in the comments because I have made a
comment about other persons being worse off than where I'm at.
Speaker 5 (32:14):
I think makes no sense to me.
Speaker 7 (32:17):
It doesn't make fucking sense.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
They've got a good life. If that's upset them, they must, like.
Speaker 6 (32:22):
You know, like if I'm at my worst and you know,
and I don't want to go down the rabbit hole
of what's going on overseas, but if we take a
moment and just seriously think about, you know, what truly
is happening in the loss of life And I'm in
life as in children and families losing loved ones living
for the rest of their life because people have been
(32:43):
taken from them by no choice or no natural causes.
Speaker 7 (32:47):
Yeah, out of spite and greed.
Speaker 6 (32:50):
But how does one then, you know, keep a peace
of mind within?
Speaker 7 (32:55):
And I do put it back to faith.
Speaker 6 (32:58):
I think that there's a lot of faith that has
been used, and thank God for it that gotten so
many people through hardship to believe that there is light
at the end of the tunnel.
Speaker 5 (33:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Look, I don't think that we have to look overseas.
Go for a walk down surface Paradise at eight thirty
at night, and you see the kids that are living
in a tent and their mums are smackheads, and you know, like,
you don't have to go far, you don't have to
even look at look that far.
Speaker 5 (33:25):
Just have a look at have a look at your neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
So, I mean, it's things are We're true lucky man,
We're like if the worst I've got to complain about
is that we're going for a really a hard time financially,
or you know I didn't get the fighter I wanted,
or I didn't like pinch yourself, mate, grow up, assess
have a good perspective on life.
Speaker 5 (33:47):
Everything you've gone through.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
You know, at sixteen seventeen years of age, where you
go for your first heartbreak, you think.
Speaker 5 (33:52):
It's the worst thing in the fucking world. It was.
Look back at it now though, and look at chill
my heart.
Speaker 7 (33:59):
She was gorgeous, she was a year old.
Speaker 5 (34:01):
She is a nettle plank.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
She was sixty, but but now it's it's it doesn't
mean as much because.
Speaker 5 (34:09):
I remember what was now. But that's the perspective.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
You've got to remember those mildstones to just remind yourself
how half you are, just you know, remind how tough
you are and how resilient we are.
Speaker 5 (34:24):
As you know, we're getting raised and.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Becoming such a soft society, you know, and it's just
the reality.
Speaker 5 (34:32):
And we need to encourage.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Kids to go through the hard yards because in twenty
years time, thirty years time, what are we like.
Speaker 5 (34:40):
I'll give you a perfect example. And I know we're
going way off topic now.
Speaker 6 (34:42):
No, no, brother, this is the clink. And this is
the beautiful thing about the clink is we always come.
Speaker 7 (34:46):
Back to its purpose. So it is relative.
Speaker 6 (34:49):
What you're saying, however you're saying is relative, and somebody
listening out there right now is going to relate or
resonnate with where we're headn't.
Speaker 5 (34:57):
So well, look it's open.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
I took my kids, say, like going to bounce right
the trampoline park right, So I take them the bounce
and I have a there now and I'll shoot you know,
there is more fucking parents in the kids bullpit than
there is fucking kids, And.
Speaker 5 (35:13):
I'm sitting what the fuck he said that water mark?
What the fuck is going on for the record.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
I'm done trying to make YAU comfortable for the record.
You ain't trying to grow downy stuff for.
Speaker 5 (35:30):
You for the record.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Live on me, going hard the way for the record.
Ain't trying to make no time to waste for.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
The record, for the record, for the for the record,
for the recon for the record, for the record.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Yeah,
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