October 22, 2024 • 18 mins
This is a look back to Brent's chat with Seth Ferranti
Seth Ferranti is the LSD King Pin, Author and movie maker with movies like 'White Boy'. Across two episodes Brent talk to him about his life before jail, in jail and after jail.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
A Pochet production.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Photo record. I'm done trying to make y'all comfortable. Yes, Rack.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
I would get like a bunch of oranges or a
bunch of lemons and limes, and I would chop them
all up. And then I would take all the oranges
and lemons and limes and I would throw the you know,
ten pounds a weed that I just blow up. I
would throw it in a hefty bag and I would
put you know, like a bag of orange, a bag
of limons, and a bag of limes and throw all
those and they're all chopped up. Yeah, and then I
(00:39):
would let it sit. I would let it sit for
like five days because what it would do, that weed,
it would absorb you know, the fruit, and it would
absorb the smell and it would get rid of that
ammoniaus smell.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
That was like my thing. I kind of became known.
You know, it's crazy because I was like branding cannabis,
you know, like in the mid eighties. Yeah, you know,
and I was just doing it because it was you know,
for you know, because people, you know, I was trying
to make it different than what everybody else had, you know,
the brick ammonia smelling pot, so my bud kind of
became known as like they used to call the two
(01:13):
D foody. And also, you know, I started I started
like around that age, like like sixteen seventeen. I started
getting weed from California, like good outdoor, you know, because
in the early eighties outdoor was kind of garbage. But
then by the mid to late eighties it started getting better.
So I would actually get weed sent from like the
Emerald Triangle from Humboldt County. So when I would have
(01:34):
that good weed, I was trying to almost match it
with the brick pot, you know, because the good weed
you can only get in the fall, like in harvest time,
like when September like when they harvested, and then the
good weed might the good outdoor might only be around
till like December January, and then it's gone. It's all gone.
They sold it all, you know, because most of the
farmers up there, they're only getting maybe like twenty five
(01:56):
thirty pounds, you know, that's how much they're getting off
they're doing. The National Force.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
What was the place in California, It's before they become
legalized with the mary want or ive there that they
had like some serious underground.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
I was growing there.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
It was no doubt that's why. Yeah, that's humble.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
That's where people got missing.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
It's like it's like northern northern cal It's like way
northern California.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
It's like, yeah, big country, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
You know? They had to show uh, Murder Mountain on Netflix.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Man, that's the one I'm thinking about. You got me,
that's thank you, thank you. I reckon they'd be still fucking.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Barrels of cash up there, stash somewhere people wouldn't have.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
And then they just had this other show on Hulu
called Sasquatch. What it was about northern California. I mean
it was about Sasquatch, but it was set you know.
They keep having these uh you know docu series that
are set up there, but they're not really about the
weed culture. They're like about something else. Like Murder mount
was more about like the murders, you know, and they
were trying to find this one person that got killed,
(02:55):
and then the Sasquatches like this weird Sasquatch. They said,
some Sasquatch killed these marijuana guys. But uh, I'm actually
correcting that because summer I'm going out there in July.
From July twentieth to July twenty seventh, I'm gonna start
filming my Emerald Triangle, Oh wow documentary.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
I've got a good, good buddy that's just come back
to Australia. I won't say his name, but I know
if you're familiar with Cypress Hill, they're in business with
a product called Elite Garden over that way and.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Yeah, no, I love, I love Cypress I love Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
So I think it's be real from Cypress Real.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
He's in business with my Boddy, who's just come back now,
and they've got one of the biggest farms or production
legalized production farms.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Green Elite God, that's what they call it.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Doctor green thromm.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Doctor greenfoam.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
That's it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the weird stuff. Hey, look,
here goes another aside. You know, I'm kind of like
a cannabis influencer, right.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
So makes two of us probably yeah, you know, you know.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Whatever, but uh, you know, I didn't never thought I
would be an influencer. But I'm kind of like a
chemus influence. So all the people, like, they send me stuff,
you know, they want me to post about it and
do little videos and stuff. Like that. So I think
it's because I used to write for advice a lot.
I don't really write for advice anymore, but I had
like a five years where I wrote for vice, So
I think everybody hopes I can get him advice. But
(04:28):
I was telling them, I'm like, I don't write for
advice anymore. But actually, doctor Cream Thumb, one of the
publicists for for for that brand, Doctor Green Thumb, be
Real's brand, they sent me like this big hookah. You know.
It was like it was like the kind of.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
How good is that? I want to kind of get
one here. I want someone to send me one.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
So look, they send me one of those. And then
they really they send me like about a thousand dollars
worth of stuff, man, because that big hookah is like
five hundred, you know. And they sent me, uh, they sent
me like a little vaporizer, you know, for Davs. And
then they sent me like a little portable vaporizer and
then they sent me like another viporiza that I could
put in the hookah.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
I look, I was never a smoker.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
For me when I was younger, my downfall was the
rack or what we call the rack cocaine. So that
was just the scene and what I ended up, you know,
as a druggle of choice. But I had a severe
injury going back a few years ago now that nearly
cost me my life and being able to walk. And
I was on opioids and somebody said to me, look,
you've got to stick. You've got to get off them.
They're going to fuck your life. You get on this.
(05:32):
And this is a CBD product back then still wasn't
refined to what it is now. But ever since then,
I use CBD every day and I use my flower
every night. And you know, I am a pharmaceutically medicated
approved user here in Australia, which is you know, we're slowly,
I guess catching up to you guys. You guys have
(05:54):
got an amazing positive scene around cannabis, hemp, marijuana, whatever
people want to use.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Though it's been spread and it's been spreading. Actually, I'm
in a medical program here. I live in Missouri, which
is right in the middle of the United States, like
they called the Midwest, like city. I live in Saint Louis.
They've got a medical program here that I've been involved
in in two years. And I was actually growing. I
was growing for almost two years. Just recently, I gave
(06:22):
up my grow because I just become so busy with
my film stuff that you know, I didn't have time,
you know, because because I was putting like two three
hours in the garden in the morning, two three hours
at night.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Are you allowed?
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Are you allowed to grow there though? Because your pharmaceutically approved?
Can you grow your own?
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Yeah? No, yeah, they called medical marijuana.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Yeah, well so we're still gonna pay the governors.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
We're still gonna pay, like, you know, it's like two
hundred and say, two hundred Australian dollars per ten grams.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Oh yeah, oh that's that's a lot.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Yeah, they're making a killing.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
They're making a killing on us, like it really is.
It's going to change, but and the laws still are.
You know, they'll they'll lucky out for for a plant.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
It's kind of well, I was growing, I was growing fit.
I was legally growing fifty four plants. I was a caretaker.
I was a caretaker for three patients, you know, being me,
my wife and her sister. I could grow fifty four plants.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
It's kind of funny that you're able to relax and
sit back and talk about it. Now, but you at
the age of nineteen, we wanted top fifteen in the States.
You were looking at twenty five years for a nonviolent crime,
a first defense of supplying LSD.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Let's talk about that.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Yeah, my kids kind of came about, you know, like
I said, around you know, thirteen, fourteen fifteen, I started
getting involved. I started selling to friends, and then eventually,
like sixteen seventeen, you know, I started getting bigger amounts,
you know, when I got some money. Actually actually how
I kind of got my first large sum of money,
(07:59):
you know that I used to start making bigger purchases.
I had a baseball car collection, you know, from when
I was a kid. You know, I was fanatic. I
was a fanatic about baseball cards. You know. Baseball was
like my favorite sport when I was a little kid.
So I actually collected you know, baseball cards from the
age of like five to like fifteen. So I had
like this massive collection. And I used to go to
(08:21):
all like the baseball car conventions, the baseball shows and
trade and buy and speculate, you know, on who was
going to be good, like when they came in as rookies.
And I made a lot of good bets you know,
and I had it. So I had a lot of
cards of people that you know turned out to have
real good careers. And so I went and I sold it,
and I got like, uh, you know, like thirteen thousand
(08:41):
for this baseball car collection, you know. And then yeah,
and then when I did.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
That's a lot of cash back. That's that's a lot
of card and that's that's a good start.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Yeah. So I took that, and that's how you know,
I started buying I started buying that brick pot. But
you know, that brick pot was pretty cheap because I
was getting that brickpot for probably like three fifty four
hundred pound, you know, first and then like I say,
I would do that whole thing break up making in
the two D fruity bud, and then I would I
would basically sell it for like you know, forty forty
(09:11):
five a quarter. So you know, I was getting like
one sixty you know to one seventy one seventy eighty
an ounce, So I was making over one thousand dollars
a pound I got. You know, I figured out really quick,
you know, probably by you know the age of like
sixteen seventeen. You know, the if you know, I could travel,
you know, go down to Dallas or go down to
Florida like Fort Myers, and and I could get this
(09:32):
brick pot really cheap, and I could bring it back
up to northern Virginia and I can sell it for
a lot, you know. And also you know, in the
in the harvest, like in the fall, I would get
the stuff from California sent to me through the mail.
But it was always limited how much I could get.
It would always be real good bud. But you know,
I mean if I could get five pounds, I was lucky.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
But then I met some people in Kentucky. And what
a lot of people don't know is there's two like
outlaw weed spots in the United States that are known
for weed, northern californ in southern Kentucky. Right, So so
I got I got hit to this, you know, And
I was like in northern Virginia, which is like that's
like not even like seven eight hours from Kentucky. So
(10:15):
I started driving down there in the fall, and I
started getting good bud too. They got a lot of
clay in the soil, so they would have this bud
that like the way it would come out with the clay.
You know, it'd just be like these really nice you
know kind of uh, you know, fruity citrusy type bud.
And I started bringing I started bringing this up, and
so you know, I was kind of rolling and I
(10:36):
was doing the LSD thing too. You know, I was
getting the LSD cent from California.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
And so when you when you when you're getting it sent.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Was this in shapes you were already sort of getting
them dropped and dried and all that sort of stopped.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Yeah, getting I would I would get I would get
the blotder paper. Yeah, I wouldn't get that. I wouldn't
get the crystal. I would get the blotterer paper. Sometimes
I might get licked the liquid. And if I got
the liquid, you know, the liquid, I would you know,
just get like a you know, like an eye drop
or something and we would put you know, put it
on like a sugar cube.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Ye oh wow.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
The stuff I was getting all the prints were mc Escher,
you know, like Escher is like this like this bad ass,
like kind of futurist, you know, artist that has like
all this crazy stuff. And you would get the sheets,
you know what it'd be like a regular almost like
an eight by eleven you know page, you know, like
a regular writing paper, and it would have ten sheets,
(11:30):
ten little sheets, so you know, it'd be like, you know,
a thousand, a thousand hits on one page. On the
page you could see, you could see all the artwork.
It'd be like they just took the print out of
a book and it would be on the blotder paper
and then you would you'd take the individual sheets off
with one hundred hits, you know, and you can only
see part of it. But it'd be cool because first
(11:51):
I was just getting you know, a couple of sheets,
you know, then I'd get like a page. But then
eventually I got what they would call a book, and
a book was like ten pages, so that was like,
you know, that was like ten thousand. Yeah, So you know,
this was all like a progression like over the years.
You know, I didn't like jump into this. I just
kind of built up, you know, I got better contacts,
(12:11):
you know, I got hooked up with different people because
I was always the type of dude too, like for
I just had a mind for business. I was always
like whenever you're doing something, you know, whatever type of
business I mean, could be drugs or could be whatever,
but you know, you want to get your capital up
and then you want to get as close to the
source as possible so you can get the cheapest price.
So that's what I was always after. And I don't
(12:32):
know what it is about me. I was just always
lucky because you know, the people above me, you know,
the people the connections or the source, they were just
like always like me, you know, because I was like
this young kid and I was coming and they would
say like, look at this kid, man, Like he's about
his business. He's coming with like Tim grand Cash, you know.
And they would even like clown like some of their friends,
(12:52):
like some of the older dudes, you know, because they'd
be like some of the older dudes, they'd be like, man,
this kid comes with Tim grand Cash.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Yeah, what are you doing yeah?
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Or like they're like you, yeah, you want me to
front you stuff, and they're like this kid, you know.
So eventually how my business grew is I went to
this really big high school in northern Virginia called Robinson
and it was like four thousand kids. And then we
had like this sister high school that wasn't even like
five miles away called Lake Braddock, and they had like
four thousand kids. So you know, by my sophomore junior year,
(13:25):
you know, that's like the second third year of high school.
You know, I'm like sixteen fifteen, sixteen seventeen. I'm selling
basically like retail amounts to anybody. Like I don't care.
If somebody wants to hit an acid, you know, or
eighth of pot, I would sell it to him. You know,
if somebody wanted like five sheets, you know, and a
quarter pound of butt, I would sell it to him.
You know, even if you know, I had some people
(13:46):
that maybe they wanted a pound. So I just sold
to everybody. And then, you know, around eighty eight, all
these people that I was doing business with, they started
going out to colleges. Yeah right, you know, I graduated
high school eighty nine, so you know, like eighty eight,
that's like when a lot of the people that I
was kneeling with, like the kids like a year or
two older than me, they started going out to colleges.
(14:09):
And when they started going out to colleges, you know,
they would call me up and they would be like, yo, man,
they'd be like, man, it's dry up here. We can't
get any good bud. We can't get any good trips.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
So this is this is all over the East coast
of America.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Yeah, all over you know.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
So they would just call you know, cause I was
in Northern Virginia, you know, but I had friends going
to penn State in Pennsylvania. You know. I had friends
going to uh, West Virginia University in West Virginia. I
just had like my friends went to all these different colleges,
and they would just call me and they'd be like, man,
you know, come hang out, come party, and bring some drugs.
(14:44):
You know, bring some shit up there. They're like, you know,
not only for themselves, but they're like, we want some
for us, but we could sell some too. We got
there's a lot of people here they want drugs. I
mean because basically, I mean anybody that doesn't know what
I mean. I don't know about the universities over there,
but I'm sure it's probably the same. But the colleges
over here, dude is just like like, dude, you could
take like ten pounds a weed and you can sell
(15:07):
it in a weekend.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Well, you say, all the movies and you know, the
frat parties and all this sort of stuff and all
the carry on over there, and I don't think we
have as much fun hereting out here in our universities.
I think they try, but I think we get a
lot of expats from over there that come over here
trying to bring that that way of you know.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Doing UNI over there and created here.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
But I'm not sure it's the same as what you
guys had locked down over there.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
I think that's a different ball game alogether. I mean
it looks like a good time.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Yeah, no, it's just I mean college is known as
just like a party time. It's like a time to go,
you know, you get your degree, but you go party
for four years. That's that's what everybody, you know, cause
it's kind of like everybody's eighteen, they move out, they
move out of their parents' house for the first time,
and they just go crazy, you know.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Yeah, and most yeah, most of the era was I
was from, you know, it's mostly like you know, middle class,
you know, upper middle class, and you know, I mean
they got they got you know, not like they're rich
or anything, but they got money. Their parents are giving
them money, you know, and they're paying from the college,
and you know, they're paying for their schools. Some of them,
(16:13):
you might even get some money like scholarships and stuff
like that, you know, academic scholarships or whatever. So yeah,
it was crazy, man. So I started going to all
these colleges and then by the time I was nineteen,
you know, I was basically supplying like fifteen colleges in
five states, you know, because it was it was you know,
because like if you're in the drug business, it was
(16:34):
like too much traffic. So eventually, like I would just
pick certain friends I would have, you know, I would
be like, okay, Boom, I'd be like, Boom, this dude
is in this fraternity at West Virginia. I'm like, when
I come to West Virginia University, I'm running everything through you,
you know. So I just kind of so everybody, even dudes.
I know, there might be some dudes I knew longer
than but I would just pick whoever I thought was
(16:54):
like the smartest kid that have the most respect, and
you know, so many too that you know, like I
have a fraternity brothers behind them, so you know, if
any you know, bullshit happen or whatever, so they would
have had their back. But uh, yeah, man, I just
started going and I got to where I was doing
the acid I was basically doing like you know, like
one hundred sheets like ten thousand hits a month, you know,
(17:17):
like every month. Every month, I was getting like a
hundred hit, one hundred sheets of acid. You know. I
was getting like like what they call a book, you know,
ten pages, and I was moving like I dropped, Like
you know. It's weird too because like the different colleges,
like they had a college like Virginia Tech, and Virginia
Tech is kind of known as like an engineering school,
you know, like a lot of smart kids, yep, and
(17:39):
Virginia Tech. Dude, I can move like thirty thirty sheets
of acid a month at Virginia Tech.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Thirty there a thousands of sheet.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Yeah yeah yeah uh wow No that's like yeah yeah yeah.
So I mean that's like like basically huge. Man. Yeah,
I would move that every month. But that's like all
the braining app.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
That's what I made. You think that, that's what made them,
as said created for the record, I'm done trying to
make y'all comfortable.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
For the record, you ain't trying to grow any stuff
for your pride for the record, laugh on me going
all the way for the record. Ain't trying to link no,
trying to waste for the record for the record, for
the for the record, for the record. Yea for the
record for the record.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Yeah, m hm
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Hm
A Pochet production.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Photo record. I'm done trying to make y'all comfortable. Yes, Rack.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
I would get like a bunch of oranges or a
bunch of lemons and limes, and I would chop them
all up. And then I would take all the oranges
and lemons and limes and I would throw the you know,
ten pounds a weed that I just blow up. I
would throw it in a hefty bag and I would
put you know, like a bag of orange, a bag
of limons, and a bag of limes and throw all
those and they're all chopped up. Yeah, and then I
(00:39):
would let it sit. I would let it sit for
like five days because what it would do, that weed,
it would absorb you know, the fruit, and it would
absorb the smell and it would get rid of that
ammoniaus smell.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
That was like my thing. I kind of became known.
You know, it's crazy because I was like branding cannabis,
you know, like in the mid eighties. Yeah, you know,
and I was just doing it because it was you know,
for you know, because people, you know, I was trying
to make it different than what everybody else had, you know,
the brick ammonia smelling pot, so my bud kind of
became known as like they used to call the two
(01:13):
D foody. And also, you know, I started I started
like around that age, like like sixteen seventeen. I started
getting weed from California, like good outdoor, you know, because
in the early eighties outdoor was kind of garbage. But
then by the mid to late eighties it started getting better.
So I would actually get weed sent from like the
Emerald Triangle from Humboldt County. So when I would have
(01:34):
that good weed, I was trying to almost match it
with the brick pot, you know, because the good weed
you can only get in the fall, like in harvest time,
like when September like when they harvested, and then the
good weed might the good outdoor might only be around
till like December January, and then it's gone. It's all gone.
They sold it all, you know, because most of the
farmers up there, they're only getting maybe like twenty five
(01:56):
thirty pounds, you know, that's how much they're getting off
they're doing. The National Force.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
What was the place in California, It's before they become
legalized with the mary want or ive there that they
had like some serious underground.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
I was growing there.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
It was no doubt that's why. Yeah, that's humble.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
That's where people got missing.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
It's like it's like northern northern cal It's like way
northern California.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
It's like, yeah, big country, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
You know? They had to show uh, Murder Mountain on Netflix.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Man, that's the one I'm thinking about. You got me,
that's thank you, thank you. I reckon they'd be still fucking.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Barrels of cash up there, stash somewhere people wouldn't have.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
And then they just had this other show on Hulu
called Sasquatch. What it was about northern California. I mean
it was about Sasquatch, but it was set you know.
They keep having these uh you know docu series that
are set up there, but they're not really about the
weed culture. They're like about something else. Like Murder mount
was more about like the murders, you know, and they
were trying to find this one person that got killed,
(02:55):
and then the Sasquatches like this weird Sasquatch. They said,
some Sasquatch killed these marijuana guys. But uh, I'm actually
correcting that because summer I'm going out there in July.
From July twentieth to July twenty seventh, I'm gonna start
filming my Emerald Triangle, Oh wow documentary.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
I've got a good, good buddy that's just come back
to Australia. I won't say his name, but I know
if you're familiar with Cypress Hill, they're in business with
a product called Elite Garden over that way and.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Yeah, no, I love, I love Cypress I love Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
So I think it's be real from Cypress Real.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
He's in business with my Boddy, who's just come back now,
and they've got one of the biggest farms or production
legalized production farms.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Green Elite God, that's what they call it.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Doctor green thromm.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Doctor greenfoam.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
That's it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the weird stuff. Hey, look,
here goes another aside. You know, I'm kind of like
a cannabis influencer, right.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
So makes two of us probably yeah, you know, you know.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Whatever, but uh, you know, I didn't never thought I
would be an influencer. But I'm kind of like a
chemus influence. So all the people, like, they send me stuff,
you know, they want me to post about it and
do little videos and stuff. Like that. So I think
it's because I used to write for advice a lot.
I don't really write for advice anymore, but I had
like a five years where I wrote for vice, So
I think everybody hopes I can get him advice. But
(04:28):
I was telling them, I'm like, I don't write for
advice anymore. But actually, doctor Cream Thumb, one of the
publicists for for for that brand, Doctor Green Thumb, be
Real's brand, they sent me like this big hookah. You know.
It was like it was like the kind of.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
How good is that? I want to kind of get
one here. I want someone to send me one.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
So look, they send me one of those. And then
they really they send me like about a thousand dollars
worth of stuff, man, because that big hookah is like
five hundred, you know. And they sent me, uh, they sent
me like a little vaporizer, you know, for Davs. And
then they sent me like a little portable vaporizer and
then they sent me like another viporiza that I could
put in the hookah.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
I look, I was never a smoker.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
For me when I was younger, my downfall was the
rack or what we call the rack cocaine. So that
was just the scene and what I ended up, you know,
as a druggle of choice. But I had a severe
injury going back a few years ago now that nearly
cost me my life and being able to walk. And
I was on opioids and somebody said to me, look,
you've got to stick. You've got to get off them.
They're going to fuck your life. You get on this.
(05:32):
And this is a CBD product back then still wasn't
refined to what it is now. But ever since then,
I use CBD every day and I use my flower
every night. And you know, I am a pharmaceutically medicated
approved user here in Australia, which is you know, we're slowly,
I guess catching up to you guys. You guys have
(05:54):
got an amazing positive scene around cannabis, hemp, marijuana, whatever
people want to use.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Though it's been spread and it's been spreading. Actually, I'm
in a medical program here. I live in Missouri, which
is right in the middle of the United States, like
they called the Midwest, like city. I live in Saint Louis.
They've got a medical program here that I've been involved
in in two years. And I was actually growing. I
was growing for almost two years. Just recently, I gave
(06:22):
up my grow because I just become so busy with
my film stuff that you know, I didn't have time,
you know, because because I was putting like two three
hours in the garden in the morning, two three hours
at night.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Are you allowed?
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Are you allowed to grow there though? Because your pharmaceutically approved?
Can you grow your own?
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Yeah? No, yeah, they called medical marijuana.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Yeah, well so we're still gonna pay the governors.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
We're still gonna pay, like, you know, it's like two
hundred and say, two hundred Australian dollars per ten grams.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Oh yeah, oh that's that's a lot.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Yeah, they're making a killing.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
They're making a killing on us, like it really is.
It's going to change, but and the laws still are.
You know, they'll they'll lucky out for for a plant.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
It's kind of well, I was growing, I was growing fit.
I was legally growing fifty four plants. I was a caretaker.
I was a caretaker for three patients, you know, being me,
my wife and her sister. I could grow fifty four plants.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
It's kind of funny that you're able to relax and
sit back and talk about it. Now, but you at
the age of nineteen, we wanted top fifteen in the States.
You were looking at twenty five years for a nonviolent crime,
a first defense of supplying LSD.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Let's talk about that.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Yeah, my kids kind of came about, you know, like
I said, around you know, thirteen, fourteen fifteen, I started
getting involved. I started selling to friends, and then eventually,
like sixteen seventeen, you know, I started getting bigger amounts,
you know, when I got some money. Actually actually how
I kind of got my first large sum of money,
(07:59):
you know that I used to start making bigger purchases.
I had a baseball car collection, you know, from when
I was a kid. You know, I was fanatic. I
was a fanatic about baseball cards. You know. Baseball was
like my favorite sport when I was a little kid.
So I actually collected you know, baseball cards from the
age of like five to like fifteen. So I had
like this massive collection. And I used to go to
(08:21):
all like the baseball car conventions, the baseball shows and
trade and buy and speculate, you know, on who was
going to be good, like when they came in as rookies.
And I made a lot of good bets you know,
and I had it. So I had a lot of
cards of people that you know turned out to have
real good careers. And so I went and I sold it,
and I got like, uh, you know, like thirteen thousand
(08:41):
for this baseball car collection, you know. And then yeah,
and then when I did.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
That's a lot of cash back. That's that's a lot
of card and that's that's a good start.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Yeah. So I took that, and that's how you know,
I started buying I started buying that brick pot. But
you know, that brick pot was pretty cheap because I
was getting that brickpot for probably like three fifty four
hundred pound, you know, first and then like I say,
I would do that whole thing break up making in
the two D fruity bud, and then I would I
would basically sell it for like you know, forty forty
(09:11):
five a quarter. So you know, I was getting like
one sixty you know to one seventy one seventy eighty
an ounce, So I was making over one thousand dollars
a pound I got. You know, I figured out really quick,
you know, probably by you know the age of like
sixteen seventeen. You know, the if you know, I could travel,
you know, go down to Dallas or go down to
Florida like Fort Myers, and and I could get this
(09:32):
brick pot really cheap, and I could bring it back
up to northern Virginia and I can sell it for
a lot, you know. And also you know, in the
in the harvest, like in the fall, I would get
the stuff from California sent to me through the mail.
But it was always limited how much I could get.
It would always be real good bud. But you know,
I mean if I could get five pounds, I was lucky.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
But then I met some people in Kentucky. And what
a lot of people don't know is there's two like
outlaw weed spots in the United States that are known
for weed, northern californ in southern Kentucky. Right, So so
I got I got hit to this, you know, And
I was like in northern Virginia, which is like that's
like not even like seven eight hours from Kentucky. So
(10:15):
I started driving down there in the fall, and I
started getting good bud too. They got a lot of
clay in the soil, so they would have this bud
that like the way it would come out with the clay.
You know, it'd just be like these really nice you
know kind of uh, you know, fruity citrusy type bud.
And I started bringing I started bringing this up, and
so you know, I was kind of rolling and I
(10:36):
was doing the LSD thing too. You know, I was
getting the LSD cent from California.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
And so when you when you when you're getting it sent.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Was this in shapes you were already sort of getting
them dropped and dried and all that sort of stopped.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Yeah, getting I would I would get I would get
the blotder paper. Yeah, I wouldn't get that. I wouldn't
get the crystal. I would get the blotterer paper. Sometimes
I might get licked the liquid. And if I got
the liquid, you know, the liquid, I would you know,
just get like a you know, like an eye drop
or something and we would put you know, put it
on like a sugar cube.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Ye oh wow.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
The stuff I was getting all the prints were mc Escher,
you know, like Escher is like this like this bad ass,
like kind of futurist, you know, artist that has like
all this crazy stuff. And you would get the sheets,
you know what it'd be like a regular almost like
an eight by eleven you know page, you know, like
a regular writing paper, and it would have ten sheets,
(11:30):
ten little sheets, so you know, it'd be like, you know,
a thousand, a thousand hits on one page. On the
page you could see, you could see all the artwork.
It'd be like they just took the print out of
a book and it would be on the blotder paper
and then you would you'd take the individual sheets off
with one hundred hits, you know, and you can only
see part of it. But it'd be cool because first
(11:51):
I was just getting you know, a couple of sheets,
you know, then I'd get like a page. But then
eventually I got what they would call a book, and
a book was like ten pages, so that was like,
you know, that was like ten thousand. Yeah, So you know,
this was all like a progression like over the years.
You know, I didn't like jump into this. I just
kind of built up, you know, I got better contacts,
(12:11):
you know, I got hooked up with different people because
I was always the type of dude too, like for
I just had a mind for business. I was always
like whenever you're doing something, you know, whatever type of
business I mean, could be drugs or could be whatever,
but you know, you want to get your capital up
and then you want to get as close to the
source as possible so you can get the cheapest price.
So that's what I was always after. And I don't
(12:32):
know what it is about me. I was just always
lucky because you know, the people above me, you know,
the people the connections or the source, they were just
like always like me, you know, because I was like
this young kid and I was coming and they would
say like, look at this kid, man, Like he's about
his business. He's coming with like Tim grand Cash, you know.
And they would even like clown like some of their friends,
(12:52):
like some of the older dudes, you know, because they'd
be like some of the older dudes, they'd be like, man,
this kid comes with Tim grand Cash.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Yeah, what are you doing yeah?
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Or like they're like you, yeah, you want me to
front you stuff, and they're like this kid, you know.
So eventually how my business grew is I went to
this really big high school in northern Virginia called Robinson
and it was like four thousand kids. And then we
had like this sister high school that wasn't even like
five miles away called Lake Braddock, and they had like
four thousand kids. So you know, by my sophomore junior year,
(13:25):
you know, that's like the second third year of high school.
You know, I'm like sixteen fifteen, sixteen seventeen. I'm selling
basically like retail amounts to anybody. Like I don't care.
If somebody wants to hit an acid, you know, or
eighth of pot, I would sell it to him. You know,
if somebody wanted like five sheets, you know, and a
quarter pound of butt, I would sell it to him.
You know, even if you know, I had some people
(13:46):
that maybe they wanted a pound. So I just sold
to everybody. And then, you know, around eighty eight, all
these people that I was doing business with, they started
going out to colleges. Yeah right, you know, I graduated
high school eighty nine, so you know, like eighty eight,
that's like when a lot of the people that I
was kneeling with, like the kids like a year or
two older than me, they started going out to colleges.
(14:09):
And when they started going out to colleges, you know,
they would call me up and they would be like, yo, man,
they'd be like, man, it's dry up here. We can't
get any good bud. We can't get any good trips.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
So this is this is all over the East coast
of America.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Yeah, all over you know.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
So they would just call you know, cause I was
in Northern Virginia, you know, but I had friends going
to penn State in Pennsylvania. You know. I had friends
going to uh, West Virginia University in West Virginia. I
just had like my friends went to all these different colleges,
and they would just call me and they'd be like, man,
you know, come hang out, come party, and bring some drugs.
(14:44):
You know, bring some shit up there. They're like, you know,
not only for themselves, but they're like, we want some
for us, but we could sell some too. We got
there's a lot of people here they want drugs. I
mean because basically, I mean anybody that doesn't know what
I mean. I don't know about the universities over there,
but I'm sure it's probably the same. But the colleges
over here, dude is just like like, dude, you could
take like ten pounds a weed and you can sell
(15:07):
it in a weekend.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Well, you say, all the movies and you know, the
frat parties and all this sort of stuff and all
the carry on over there, and I don't think we
have as much fun hereting out here in our universities.
I think they try, but I think we get a
lot of expats from over there that come over here
trying to bring that that way of you know.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Doing UNI over there and created here.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
But I'm not sure it's the same as what you
guys had locked down over there.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
I think that's a different ball game alogether. I mean
it looks like a good time.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Yeah, no, it's just I mean college is known as
just like a party time. It's like a time to go,
you know, you get your degree, but you go party
for four years. That's that's what everybody, you know, cause
it's kind of like everybody's eighteen, they move out, they
move out of their parents' house for the first time,
and they just go crazy, you know.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Yeah, and most yeah, most of the era was I
was from, you know, it's mostly like you know, middle class,
you know, upper middle class, and you know, I mean
they got they got you know, not like they're rich
or anything, but they got money. Their parents are giving
them money, you know, and they're paying from the college,
and you know, they're paying for their schools. Some of them,
(16:13):
you might even get some money like scholarships and stuff
like that, you know, academic scholarships or whatever. So yeah,
it was crazy, man. So I started going to all
these colleges and then by the time I was nineteen,
you know, I was basically supplying like fifteen colleges in
five states, you know, because it was it was you know,
because like if you're in the drug business, it was
(16:34):
like too much traffic. So eventually, like I would just
pick certain friends I would have, you know, I would
be like, okay, Boom, I'd be like, Boom, this dude
is in this fraternity at West Virginia. I'm like, when
I come to West Virginia University, I'm running everything through you,
you know. So I just kind of so everybody, even dudes.
I know, there might be some dudes I knew longer
than but I would just pick whoever I thought was
(16:54):
like the smartest kid that have the most respect, and
you know, so many too that you know, like I
have a fraternity brothers behind them, so you know, if
any you know, bullshit happen or whatever, so they would
have had their back. But uh, yeah, man, I just
started going and I got to where I was doing
the acid I was basically doing like you know, like
one hundred sheets like ten thousand hits a month, you know,
(17:17):
like every month. Every month, I was getting like a
hundred hit, one hundred sheets of acid. You know. I
was getting like like what they call a book, you know,
ten pages, and I was moving like I dropped, Like
you know. It's weird too because like the different colleges,
like they had a college like Virginia Tech, and Virginia
Tech is kind of known as like an engineering school,
you know, like a lot of smart kids, yep, and
(17:39):
Virginia Tech. Dude, I can move like thirty thirty sheets
of acid a month at Virginia Tech.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Thirty there a thousands of sheet.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Yeah yeah yeah uh wow No that's like yeah yeah yeah.
So I mean that's like like basically huge. Man. Yeah,
I would move that every month. But that's like all
the braining app.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
That's what I made. You think that, that's what made them,
as said created for the record, I'm done trying to
make y'all comfortable.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
For the record, you ain't trying to grow any stuff
for your pride for the record, laugh on me going
all the way for the record. Ain't trying to link no,
trying to waste for the record for the record, for
the for the record, for the record. Yea for the
record for the record.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Yeah, m hm
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Hm
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