The Go-Getters: Jed and Milo

In this episode of The Clink, Brent welcomes Jed and Milo, co-founders of their organisation "Go-Getters", helping troubled youth create better opportunities for themselves. They also share their pasts and what led them to the paths they are on today.

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
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Speaker 1 (00:50):
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Speaker 4 (00:52):
Right.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
Season seventeen of the Clink.

Speaker 5 (00:58):
Wow, it's been a fantastic season and I have enjoyed
every guest and I hope you have a big welcome to.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
All new listeners.

Speaker 5 (01:05):
We are really grateful for everybody that tunes in every week.
It's been phenomenal, an informative and absolutely enjoyable season today
and today's is no different. I have two young men
who are down in Sydney doing great things at the moment.
These two young fellas have definitely got a history and
a past that they have turned around now to better

(01:26):
their future and to help so many through their actions.
These young men's business is called the go Getters. Welcome
to the Clink boys.

Speaker 6 (01:35):
Thank you.

Speaker 7 (01:36):
Thanks mate.

Speaker 5 (01:37):
First of all, why don't you both start off just
by introducing because this is unusual. Normally I only run
one guest and today I'm running two. So this is
a little bit different from me here at the Clink.
So we're going to have to learn this together and
patiently get through it. But we will and I know
it's going to be a great episode, one at a time.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
Introduce yourselves.

Speaker 4 (01:56):
My name is Jed Sewster. I'm the co founder of
the Go Getters. I'm twenty five years old from the
Central Coast and now I'm just here to help told you,
and like he breaches out to youth connections like as
a juvenile Justice centers, doc's children at the schools and
all that kind of stuff like that, we run a
group training session and anything we can do to help

(02:16):
the youth for anyone in that fact, Like I'm here
to help kind of thing, you know.

Speaker 7 (02:21):
Me and my name's Jake, and log Big all the
boy's name as Milo, same thing, partnering the go Getters,
just pretty much trying to change all the stuff pretty
much we never had as a kid because we've lived
through it. We've done it as a childhood from broken
homes all the rest of us. So we just we
know exactly what we didn't have and what needs to
be done. So now we're just trying to focus all
our time on that instead of doing the wrong things

(02:43):
and going the wrong way. So it's blown up pretty
good for us so far, so we just can get
into it.

Speaker 5 (02:49):
Look, I really love what you stand for, and I've
been following your path now for a little while. And
a very dear friend brother of mine, I seen you
guys network with Big Dave Walker. Big shout out to Dave,
love your mate and everything you stand for, an absolute
leader in the industry of health and wellness, and also
to you know his passion around networking, connecting with people

(03:10):
to better.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
The lives of others.

Speaker 5 (03:12):
I myself have just literally come back from Townsville doing
very similar things which I would love to further talk
to you guys about in reference to workshops working around
our young people. I want to just start with we'll
say Jed first, let's hear a bit of background, because
obviously our guests out there won't know much about you guys,

(03:32):
and I really feel that this platform is here to
deliver not only stories of redemption, but giving people inspiration
to be able to better themselves through their actions. What
we've done with the Clink now is we've tried to
incorporate people like yourselves that are successfully doing things off
the back of hardships and traumas, that are enabling yourselves

(03:53):
to be the best you can be and inspiring others
out there to chase their dreams and believe in themselves
because it's not easy and everyone's against you. I've just found,
you know, like, we had massive meat year impact and
connection in Townsville and it was such a positive. But
yet on the backside of it, you know, there's a
particular media that decided to go backwards and bring up

(04:15):
myself and Jeremy's past and you know, run it as
a co story to back off the positive and the
facts of what's happening up there with the youth to
let's say smoke screen.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
It cover all the bullshit up because we called.

Speaker 5 (04:26):
Him out and it's all about now ex convicted fucking
criminals and all this sort of shit. It is a
tough slog I noticed one of your boys this week.
He's a fighter, and you know he's had to experience
that again with his license.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
Unfortunately.

Speaker 5 (04:39):
I reached out to him and just wanted him to
know that hanging in there because this is part of
the journey. Everyone's against this Jed, How has it been
for you growing up? And take us back to you
know what it was like growing up and where.

Speaker 6 (04:53):
Growing up like I had nothing at all, like bare minimum.

Speaker 4 (04:56):
You know, I was living in refugees, homeless since I
was about ten years old, kind of thing, really defending on.

Speaker 6 (05:01):
My own, like since kind of thing.

Speaker 5 (05:03):
You know.

Speaker 4 (05:03):
I was gone from Kasha, sleeping on the streets, and
my good mate Milo here like he he took me
in when I was younger. That's why we've reconnected. He
done seven years jail, so as soon as he got out,
we kind of reconnected kind of thing, which was a
blessing because.

Speaker 6 (05:17):
He took me in under his wing when we were younger,
and that kind of thing.

Speaker 7 (05:19):
You know.

Speaker 4 (05:20):
So I never really had the structure all the tools
to do life, but I learned by myself how to
do that kind of thing, you know.

Speaker 6 (05:26):
So I'm trying to give back to these kids.

Speaker 4 (05:29):
Try giving the structure, Try giving the tools, the skills,
whatever they need to learn how to live life kind
of thing.

Speaker 5 (05:33):
You know. I just wanted to touch on something and
this is important, just in what you just said. Then
you and Mila have been made since you were younger.

Speaker 6 (05:42):
Young fellas right, really so babies, Yeah, did you.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
Kick this off? Jed?

Speaker 5 (05:46):
And then Milo's come home and then you've together now
worked because they're right there. Inspires me hearing that that's
a true brother, a true man. And unfortunately, and I'm
going to be very real to everybody listening out.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
There that might be living in a certain way.

Speaker 5 (06:02):
I mean, we're not here to tell you how how
to live and what you should do, and where need
here to try and give you the guidance of from
our lived experience of what doesn't work.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
We know it doesn't work.

Speaker 5 (06:12):
One thing when you walk out those gates is nine
times out of ten, unless you come from a really
solid background.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Family, you got fucking nothing.

Speaker 5 (06:19):
That's right, have a mate there to actually give you
a leg up that is so valuable and min It
must be amazing for you to know that you've got
that support there to then come into this space and
become passionate and have a purpose, have drive, want to
make change.

Speaker 7 (06:37):
That means a lot, you know what I mean, especially
getting out for so long. You know exactly how it
would be a lot of people go missing, you know
what I mean, they just drop off. Plus getting out
trying to train and all that, you don't really have
much support, especially other people that have been such after
a long time, they're all still doing the same shit.
So it was sort of hard to make that change
because you know, you get a lot of hate from
the boys. Whatever. They start to start doing the right thing,

(06:59):
but at the end of the day, I just seen
the more I focus on myself and not that, the
more further I got. So Whi's time to get onto that.

Speaker 5 (07:07):
Well, you talk about hate from the boys, and this
is something that will also I think really important to
touch on because we all have this assumption that you know,
the phone's going to ring, the boys.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
Are going to be there, we're all sweet, and that it's.

Speaker 5 (07:20):
All good, you know, the brothers, the lads, and it's
just as someone who's spent fifteen years plus in by clubs,
nearly fourteen years of my life locked up, one thing
I learned very quickly is you're on your fucking own
and at the end of the day, mate, when you
come out and decide you know you want to make change,
the phone doesn't ring, No one knocks on your door,

(07:42):
there's no invites to lunch's dinner, come and hang out,
come out of this whatever, it all stops, and you
become alienated. I think that that right there, especially for
young people, is such a hard thing to deal with
because we all want to we all want to be
called up, we all want to be fucking known that, Hey,
I'll pick you up, let's go train, let's go a fee,
let's go hang out, let's go check.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
The chicks, whatever, whatever you do.

Speaker 5 (08:05):
But all of a sudden, it's like you're one out,
you know, one out cell lockdown, and you've got nothing.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
You've got jad here.

Speaker 5 (08:11):
You've come home too, and together now you're thriving, lifting
each other up. And this is where I'm really proud
to invite you, guys upon here is because you're living it,
and I think it's so relevant to be able to
give that experience to others out there. And you're young men.
You know, like I'm an old boy now I'm nearly fifty,
so for me, i'm a husband. You guys are the present,
you're the leaders in your generation moving forward in this space.

(08:36):
Let's just talk about that loneliness and how you overcome that,
because I think.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
It's really relative.

Speaker 7 (08:41):
Well, most of the time, you just need like a
lot of support, and you needn't want to make the
change to begin with, because a lot of boys they
get offered help, whether it's inside, outside, whatever, and they
just they don't want to break people's hearts. They just say, yeah,
let's go, and most of the time they're not ready
for it yet. So you've got to be willing to
actually put the work into make the change from the start,
because a lot of boys just fuck up opportunities that

(09:03):
they get, but after that, like they alienated. You just
got to have the support and you have to be
just headstrong because a lot of people that's where they break,
like that's where they fold when they start getting left
on their own and then they start wanting the attention,
they start missing the boys, and that's where a lot
of that comes into the emotion, and then you end
up folding and going back to that same old lifestyle.
Pretty much. It takes the hardship to realize. You know,

(09:24):
you've got to go through the times where you actually
did need someone and no one was there for you
to realize, like, I'd rather be on my own because
I was left on my own when I was putting
in the effort for them people anyway, so I may
as well take all that effort I was put it
in for them and put it in for myself because
the end of the day, I was on my own
e rither. So the only one that's going to help
you is yourself really at the end of the day.

(09:45):
And you just got to yeah, pretty much, take the
boys that I've done it, and the people that are
just talking about it, and the people that have your
best interests at heart, and the end of the day,
most people know in their chest who that really is,
whether they want to take it on board.

Speaker 5 (09:57):
Ll night, I think, you know, surrounding ourselves with like
minded people. It's a little bit cliche, but it's so true,
you know, you guys, And I must say, if the
growth that I've seen from the outside looking in has
been phenomenal, you know, you should be very very proud
of yourselves. And we'll definitely get into the whole business
side and what you're achieving, because.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
I think it's phenomenal.

Speaker 5 (10:17):
But for now, I want to really give our listeners
that background story because you know, people often leave little comments,
and you know, all these little people worriers and ghosts,
and you know, they'll talk shit about the fact that
the clink might. You know, are you praising this? We
don't praise anybody's criminality. It's just life. This is a

(10:37):
podcast that gives people, real people, an ability to connect
with people like ourselves, to share our stories and all
the other guests that have been here. With that comes
a lot of trauma, criminality, jail time, drug addiction. These
are things that have to be spoken about because without
that backstory, what the fuck does it matter what you're

(11:00):
doing today, because no one's going to actually connect and
feel relevant to your connection if you truly haven't lived.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
It's so empowering.

Speaker 5 (11:08):
I think seeing what you guys are doing, and as
I said, I'll keep going back. You only young men,
and I respectfully say that your men, but I'm just speaking.
This is your time, this is your generation, and what
you're doing you really are leading. And I just want
to give you, mate, the utmost respect and credit, because
I think it's fantastic. Jed, you obviously had a vision
and an idea.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
I mean, Milo's come home.

Speaker 5 (11:31):
Your partners in this wonderful movement, I'll call it if
I can. What made this want to be something that
you would have put your passion and join into.

Speaker 4 (11:40):
I appreciate your words, just firstly, what you've just said
to us. It's just always been my passion, you know.
Just bring all the boys together kind of thing. Look,
you can call it a brotherhood of any a family community,
whatever you want to call it. Well, we're just all
one kind of thing. You know, we all gel together.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
Well when you have women, you have Oh you've got
everybody there. It's awesome.

Speaker 6 (12:00):
We've got mums, dad's kids. Yeah, I noticed even coming along.

Speaker 4 (12:04):
You know, animals are all like, we love this stuff
kind of thing. You know, that's what we live off.
We strive off this stuff. Everyone just bonding together kind
of thing.

Speaker 7 (12:14):
You know.

Speaker 4 (12:14):
Drop but everyone's egos fucked, the egos off at the door.
Don't no one brings shit to my like my events
kind of thing, you know, just.

Speaker 5 (12:22):
So you create a very neutral space where everybody's welcome,
no judgment and.

Speaker 6 (12:27):
Bullshit free zone.

Speaker 4 (12:28):
You know, there's no ship there, so everyone's having a laugh,
everyone's just having a good time. You know, everyone's trying
to help each other, like improving life kind of thing. Gradually,
just elevate every single day to attack your goals, attack everything,
you know, go against all odds.

Speaker 7 (12:42):
Because especially like when you have the egos now and
they don't get left to the door, a lot of
people's self esteem gets affected because of that. So a
lot of people that come in with their egos and
want to show pony stuff like that, there's a lot
of other people in the back end that no one
really sees. They lose their motivation, they lose their drive
just from someone's little actions. They don't really mean much
to anyone else. So we try and.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
It's funny, isn't it.

Speaker 5 (13:02):
Yeah, And I think that's so relevant because we're all
so unique, you know, and we all come in all
different shapes and sizes, colors and creed. A non judgmental
safe place is something that we need, you know. We,
as I said, were up in Townsville just recently working
with all the community up there, and the diversity within
community up there between the ages of twelve and seventeen
was just crazy. I've never seen so much diversity in

(13:26):
such a small space. And it isn't that it's a
beautiful place up there, but it's a very small I
basically call it a redneck community and I love the place,
but people need to wake the fuck up because you know,
their attitudes up there and how they see what's going
on up there.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
Is just all politically driven. It's all bullshit.

Speaker 5 (13:43):
And I know that New South Wales has you know,
very strict laws around consorting and you know people coming
together and trying to better themselves as well.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
So I know that you know the flack you boys
would cop and especially.

Speaker 5 (13:56):
You know, like struggling to get I guess blue cards
all the boxes that you've got a tick.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
Yeah, you spoke earlier about getting in a jjson.

Speaker 5 (14:05):
You've an our Justice Centers Joey Kwan, who's a great mate,
who's done amazing things out there in that space, and
the boys have been going in for quite some time
now with their organization working with young people through fitness
and wellness programs. Is this something that you want to
also do but in your own way and delivery anything.

Speaker 4 (14:26):
That branches out to that kind of thing, you know,
we're all for it. Anything that's going to help another person,
you know, we're all for it.

Speaker 5 (14:33):
So what have mean some of the hurdles Jed like,
because look, let's be honest, these things don't come easy
and it is so easy to go fuck it, it's
too hard. Everyone doesn't know. You've got, as I said,
you've got to tick boxes. And because of the way
the politics are today and the way that the laws
are and everything around this space, they're making it harder
for anybody with criminal history, especially current. In the last

(14:56):
four or five years, I myself have fucking me and
dragged through the ringer. You know, my last true conviction
was twenty ten, so we're talking fifteen years ago. Flip
the coin, and there's still a battle that I'm battling.
But it doesn't mean to say I'm fucking guilty of anything.
It just means I'm still going through a process from many,
many years ago. You boys have to deal with young
people coming out obviously on parole, probation from court, suspended sentences.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
Whatever it might be.

Speaker 5 (15:22):
How does that work and how do you work around
these sort of things to bring those people that really
need that support into your space.

Speaker 4 (15:30):
Yeah, well, look at at the end of the day,
no rest, no reward kind of thing. You know, you
just got to keep risking it for the biscuit kind
of thing. We haven't meet every single day with different communities,
different people and all that you get knocked back to
a few because of you come on the record, you know,
but you might get that other few, you know, so
even if you've got the other few, you can still
move forward. Like we're not going to stop just because
we've got knocked back buying company kind of thing, you know,

(15:50):
one hundred percent.

Speaker 7 (15:51):
Like we even had a little experience not too long
ago where they were all sweet about it, invited us
to the company all the rest, and then only one
or two people had something to say about our pomenal history.
So therefore they knocked at back. But like, don't get
me wrong, there is them days where we say fuck
it and then there's go two three hours by and
we go, no, fuck it, start doing it again, like

(16:12):
I've been out earlier year now my children Working with
Children shacks is still going now still I'm going still
hasn't been approved. That's been in the works for about
ten months still now, so it won't.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
Come anytime soon either. Brother. That's the problem myl is.

Speaker 5 (16:25):
Look, there is the loopholes, and use them, you know,
as long as you're besides someone.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
I mean, it's the same as me, you know, Like.

Speaker 5 (16:32):
I can't get a blue card obviously at the moment
because of my court proceedings and so on. And that
doesn't mean to say we're bad people. It just means
that's a political side. But because of whatever, you know,
the government deems to be unfit. Yet we bring so
much value to the table, So help others to put.

Speaker 6 (16:49):
All people love.

Speaker 4 (16:51):
Just bringing up the past and just judging to buy
who you were kind of thing, you know, not even
who you were, just what you've done and what you've
been through people are.

Speaker 5 (16:59):
I think it's really relevant, Jed, And I think that
you know, like when you talk and I'm going to
touch on this so you know, for everyone out there,
please don't take this for anything than what I'm speaking
and the facts, and that is, you know, you've got
your scum pedophilia out there that are just so accepted as.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
The fucking norm.

Speaker 5 (17:16):
You know, all these hideous crimes that just get swept
under the carpet. But yet get a couple of knock
about blokes, you know what I mean, might have been
been involved in some sort of gang activity, club life, okay,
you've got done deal and drugs, stolen cars, fucking stick up.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
Whatever it might be.

Speaker 5 (17:32):
When I speak and milo, you can relate to this obviously,
especially not so long coming out. You know, the mentality
of criminal these days has changed. The acceptance of you know,
the old school crim has changed, and I don't like
to even label us as crims anymore. But this is
this is where okay, but this is who we are,
This is our past. I don't care. You young fellas

(17:53):
today are going through an even tougher period than blokes
like myself, where on the back end of something that's
really sort of a movement coming forward, which you guys
are going to have to live with going into the future,
with all these sort of political agendas and so on.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
I mean, how does it make you feel within yourselves now?

Speaker 4 (18:16):
This day and age is like pretty tough doing what
we're kind of doing. Like that's why we started this,
because it's just going out of control of the youth.

Speaker 6 (18:22):
It's just going crazy.

Speaker 4 (18:23):
You know, there's stabbing every single day, Like you hear
something on the news every single day happening in your
neighborhood kind of thing, you know. So I'm just encouraging,
like all the youth just get in the gym, man,
come join us. Like I'm even charging for free, like
seventeen under, like they're for free. Just come in, come
join us, I'll pick you up. I'll do whatever I
have to do. Just come along and kind of thing,
you know, because you're just getting out of hand, Like

(18:44):
every single day there's something happening.

Speaker 5 (18:46):
There's a big thing that I'm massive on. It's a solution,
a solution to the problem. You know, we have to hear,
we have to listen to our young people. You guys
are a voice for the young people. And your actions
are speaking louder than your words. Just hearing you say
what you just said, looking at you and when you're
speaking the passion within you. I'll pick them up, you know,

(19:06):
I'll do it for free. Your time is valuable, Your
time is money. Your time you still need to provide
for family, You still need to put food on the table,
on the roof, over your head. But yet you're willing
to sacrifice all that to make change.

Speaker 4 (19:20):
I know what it feels like to be in their
position and kind of thing, you know, Like I've obviously
had nothing there to look forward to kind of things,
so I didn't know what was happening in the next minute,
Like what's going to happen next, Like what do I
do kind of thing, you know. So I'm trying to
be not a father figure, but just like someone that
can they can come to kind of thing.

Speaker 5 (19:37):
You know.

Speaker 4 (19:38):
I'm trying to give something that I don't didn't have,
but now I know what it's like not to have it.

Speaker 6 (19:43):
So I'm just I'm here for them kind of thing.

Speaker 7 (19:45):
You know. We just want to put their best interests,
you know what I mean. We have their best interests
at heart, because that's all that matters at the end
of the day. We want them to be comfortable, to
be able to come to us with their shit, you
know what I mean, and then know that we're actually
going to give them the right answers, you know what
I mean. Not the streets totally different.

Speaker 5 (20:04):
The streets of what have made us. It's brought us
to where we are today. So you know, like when
we talk of like people say to me, you know,
do you do you live with regret that? And I
can't say that.

Speaker 6 (20:15):
That's what I really can't.

Speaker 4 (20:17):
I don't regret anything that's happened to me in my
life because mentally it's just made me invincible kind of thing.

Speaker 5 (20:22):
You know.

Speaker 6 (20:23):
Nothing, Well, we're.

Speaker 5 (20:24):
Here now, we're now having this conversation, taking action, looking
for ways of being able to support people who are
starting to go through those stages we've already been through.
We couldn't do this without having the life that we've lived,
whether it be good, bad, or ugly, and we can
play the victim and we can sit back and say,
fuck with shit.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
You know, this happened to me. That happened to me,
you know, and it really is.

Speaker 5 (20:46):
There's some horrific things that you know, if you go
back and listen to any of the episodes through the Clink,
out of over two hundred and fourteen episodes, there is
some traumatically just heartbreaking stories. But on the back end
of it is some amazing people who have really been
able to you know, turn that around and basically give

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their hardship in a positive way to guide others. And
you know, you speak of not being able to sort
of have family support and living on the streets and
so on. What better person to be able then turn
around and actually say to someone brother, I gotcha, I'm
here to listen, I understand and letting them be heard.

Speaker 4 (21:25):
Yeah, definitely a blessing for me. I'm grateful for going
through it so young.

Speaker 6 (21:31):
Kind of thing.

Speaker 4 (21:31):
I feel like I've there's not much I can't go
through it, Like right now, I've been through it all,
so nothing's going to break me kind of thing, you know.
So just keep moving forward and keep attacking every single day.

Speaker 5 (21:42):
With yourself. You still struggling with parole or anything like that.

Speaker 7 (21:46):
Yeah, Like I still got a couple of years, I
think a year and a half after parole, but they've
just canceled my supervision. That's good. So then because I've
been behaved for years, all the drug tests passed, so
and so, community service and everything else. So I'm off
my supervision now unless they call me in for some reason.
But that's all still an issue. But at the end
of the day, it's all that comes with it at

(22:07):
the end of the day. Just give you a like
moreever rewards at the end of the day when you've
done it, you know what I mean, Because everyone on
any side street tried to stop you, and you still
just smash through and got it done. So that's good.
But it's like I said before, like you said as well,
with the trauma, that's what makes it, you know what
I mean. The trauma is what opened our eyes and
sort of now give us the opportunity to not let

(22:28):
kids go through that trauma because we know what they
needed when we can see the early warning science to
stop that to begin with. So now we're just trying
to stop out of the young age before they have
to go through all the shit that we went through
ten years plus worth a shit. Stop all that beforehand
and just give them the tools they need to just
steer the right way and just run their own race,
try their own trail.

Speaker 5 (22:46):
I guess mil I've got a question for you too,
and I think it's relevant, and you know, it would
be something that a lot of people out there may
be questioning. In fact, those that are on parole that
are listening to the clink today or going through the
court system. Are you finding you're out here, you're working
your clean You've just said for over a year you've
been able to prove that you're completely staying away from

(23:09):
any criminal acts or ways of life. Are you finding
that parole is supportive of what you're doing or do
you still find that they're trying to be objective and
really sort of always trying to ah yeah, yeah, yeah,
but in the back of their mind just waiting for
you to fuck up.

Speaker 7 (23:28):
To be honest, I reckon it all depends on the officer,
you know, it depends on your parole officer whether they've
copped enough shit and actually still care about the job
or whether they're just doing it for the paycheck. So, like,
I've had pretty much shit running process since. I mean
I've had four different ones in one year, so they're
pretty much no fuck all around me. But there's been
two that are really connected. We've been really supportive, always

(23:49):
been there, stuff like that. But then there's a couple
of other ones that's sort of like would rather play
it safe to keep you safe and keep you where
you're at, just to know that you're safe, instead of
trying to like let you move forward. So then one
day no one has to worry about if you're safe
and worry about you, you know what I mean. You
can just know that you're sweet and then your life's
done with that you can move on. So there's some that,

(24:10):
like even it was only four months ago, three months
ago that I got off the BUBE program because I
was on that injection when I got off all the other.

Speaker 5 (24:17):
Drugs, Well done, mate, Yeah, that's huge congrassation.

Speaker 7 (24:22):
I never thought I would, to be honest, even when
I got out, all my mates are you're going to
jump off and now you're out of jail and stuff,
and I just said, oh, sort of know, because I
sort of thought of that as a safety net, but
just all the side effects from it were sort of
doing more hard than good. So I just said, nah,
fuck it. But I knew the prople off straight at
the time, they would have sort of approved of it.
They would have said, oh, nah, I think you should
drop down your dose. I think you should wean yourself
off it, or I think you shouldn't get off it

(24:43):
at all, just to keep yourself safe.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
So I'm so sorry, just sorry.

Speaker 5 (24:48):
I need to ask this because this is really good.
Not a lot of people will understand and know this,
So for those that don't understand, the bube is a
preventative drug that basically is given to people with addiction
to enable them to assist in not using Basically, that's
in a nutshell. Now, I get the fact of you
wanting to move forward in your life, put that behind you,

(25:10):
and as part of that is to let go of
that move forward in a healthy and positive way. We
used to talk about with method and the liquid handcuffs.
That's just what it was called, and it was the
way that, yes, the addiction was very real for those
that were using, but it also was a controlling thing
for parole, jail's government to.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
Be able to keep track, know where you were.

Speaker 5 (25:31):
You knew where you does had to be gotten and
how it all worked, and you basically couldn't just step
away from the program. If you did, then you were
every chance of farure you'll go at the job you
just said along the lines parole you could possibly say
no that I want you to get off it. This
is your body, this is your life, this is you
trying to better your life. And this is something that

(25:53):
I think is really good to hear from somebody who's
lived it. How the fuck does somebody have the right
to tell you to stop putting something in your body.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
I understand it's a temptation. Then that may occur.

Speaker 5 (26:03):
I understand that there's going to be a lot of hardship,
and you know your body, you mentally, physically. But if
you can show that you're genuinely wanting to step away,
you've got a network around you, like you do, you're
involved in some great, really positive sort of environment. Why
the fuck would you not want to see someone off
the pube exactly right?

Speaker 7 (26:22):
Like that's where I sort of get it, Like they
don't they want to control you with the stuff, like
even if I might fail, Like you can see genuinely
my heart that I'm willing to have a crack, let
me go, you know what I mean? Like, and I
knew that, So I just I ran it. I got
I got off it. I had messages off the clinic,
off the everywhere else trying to say, oh, you get
your appointment, your appointment. I just ignored everyone. I just

(26:42):
didn't go. I didn't even tell my partner as well.
I waited until literally a month after till I was
meant to pick up my dos and it breached. You
breached you ordered? You know, no, no of none of
my court ordered. Mine is just like under their opinion,
you know what I mean. So none of my stuff's
court ordered. I made that choice in jail myself because
I was getting the trouble'll say, grow stuff, but I

(27:03):
just say this, don't need to get fuck it all off?
So and yeah, so I just waited. I didn't tell
my partner even for a month, and she said to me,
isn't an injection coming up, and I said, you know,
I haven't had it for two months. She said what,
And I said, I haven't taken it for two months,
and she was sort of horrified. And I knew that.
So even when I went in and told Parole, it
just proved everything I thought, because even when I said

(27:23):
it to her, I said, I jumped off my injection,
and she thought that I'd been jumped off recently in
the last couple of three or four days, And straight
away she jumped down my throat and said, are you sure, like,
are you sure you want to jump off it, because then.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
You're then vulnerable. Yeah, you're in this short term space.
Will he use? Will he not use? It's going to
be too.

Speaker 7 (27:44):
Hard, exactly right. So I understand her point of view.
She's just trying to like cut it short and make
sure I'm safe. I understand that. But in that I
can't grow, like I can't grow as a person and
then actually get rid of that shoot out of my
life and fuck it off. So I got rid of
all that, and now it's been three or four months
off at all, no issue. So but yeah, it's exactly

(28:04):
like you said, one hundred percent. That's sometimes it all
depends on the officer at the end of the day,
whether they actually care about your messages and they want
you to succeed or they just want you out of jail.
It's as different.

Speaker 5 (28:15):
Yeah, and thank you for being vulnerable and honest here, brother,
because you didn't have to disclose that and it's none
of anyone's business, you know what I mean. So that
just goes to show how open and transparent you're willing
to be to better yourself and sharing your life with
others because people judge. It's as simple as that, you know,
and someone I know, you know for them today, the Bube,
the Dome whatever it was.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
Ah, Yeah, they're just a junkie, you know what I mean.
That's all there is to it.

Speaker 5 (28:38):
That's the distigma attached with it, and you're just basically
written off as another piece of shit.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
In the system. So, firstly, I feel that that's.

Speaker 5 (28:46):
Massive in growth for you to be able to have
this conversation publicly speak openly. Congratulations on your progress, and
I pray to God brother, you stay on the path
and I can see it in the way you talk,
your eyes, your whole body language.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
You're one million percent committed to the cause, Jed. I'll
throw it.

Speaker 5 (29:02):
Back to you, bro, because here you are supporting your
brother and I'll call him your brother because it's you
that's it in your family and it's rare that we
these days have that made or brother since childhood.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
I have one outside of that.

Speaker 4 (29:19):
Exactly in need, just one or two lines around here,
and you're just set.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
You know, how has it been for you, Jed?

Speaker 5 (29:26):
Though, knowing that your brother has been going through these hardships,
you're here trying to support him, uplift him, keep him
safe and let him know that he's not alone. But yet,
you know, we can't deny that there's politics around all
this stuff because one you technically could be consorting. Two
is it okay by a parole for her? You know

(29:47):
mylow to be involved with ex criminal Jed and others
like minded that are in a really beautiful and organic
space that's bringing positivity to the community. But let's not
you know, step away from their views. You're meant to fail.
We're a statistic, We're not meant to see seed.

Speaker 6 (30:06):
Now.

Speaker 4 (30:06):
We just show who we are kind of at the
end of the day, we show what we can get through.
We'll climb out of anything, you know, throw the world
at us and we'll get through it kind of thing.

Speaker 6 (30:13):
You know, You've got to.

Speaker 4 (30:14):
Accept the hatred that's going to come with it, and
that's not going to go away ever, So you just
got to accept and just eat off it kind of
thing and make you fucking want more because of that
kind of thing, you.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
Know, So we just eat it hard.

Speaker 5 (30:25):
It is hard, isn't it, because you sort of get
to that point and it's like, at what stage will
people just fucking appreciate that I'm changing the ways I'm having.

Speaker 4 (30:38):
And hating until they eventually jump on kind of thing,
you know, because they see it's doing good.

Speaker 6 (30:42):
They see who we are or who were becoming kind
of thing. You know.

Speaker 4 (30:45):
We've like me and myself, I've been in jail myself
as well, so I've been blessed with good pro officers.
I've had some good pro officers that have helped me out.
I've had about four as well on ICY at the
moment as we speak. So I'm still doing community service,
still doing all that shit, but at the same time,
I'm still trying to get ahead of life.

Speaker 6 (31:01):
If you don't make a move, you're not going to
get anywhere. Enoughing changes on this huge change kind of thing.

Speaker 5 (31:05):
You know, it's a reality in it may like even myself,
you know, sixteen years ago and I'm dragged back into
something I've been fighting for five years. And you know,
do we sit back and do we just go fuck
the systems against us and you know we give up?
Or do we just say okay, we embrace it and
we just go You know what, this is making me stronger,
it's making me hungrier, It's making me want to be
the best I can be, and a big fuck you

(31:27):
to the system in respect, I don't say that in
an aggressive way that I'm saying fuck you, I can change,
I can be better. I am going to be better,
and not anything you do or anything you put in
front of me, he's going to take that away from me.
And that's not to say that our days are perfect,
because we both know all the three of there's no
way in the fucking world that every day's a good day.

Speaker 4 (31:48):
It's too easy to go out there and just fuck up.
You know, you can go out there and fuck up
any second of the day.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
I say that to people all the time.

Speaker 5 (31:54):
I'm struggling, I'm fucking bouncing between jobs, I'm trying to
this podcast, and I know that you could just turn
a tap on like this and solve all your problems.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
But what in six months time you're fucking doing ten years?

Speaker 4 (32:03):
Fuck that you can go down own just like what
because you're pissed off, You go fucking cunt someone just
because you're pissed off or whatever, But what the what's
up for? What do that sohole kind of thing? And
that's what like we used to do when we're sucking
young duncunts. But we're trying to show people these days
that's not the right thing to do, you know, because.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
Like you're on a clink, you can slide on that one.

Speaker 6 (32:21):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, fuck it up.

Speaker 4 (32:24):
I'm going to pay the court for the rest of
my life now because of the stupid shit that I
used to do kind of thing.

Speaker 6 (32:28):
And malo's the same kind of thing, you know.

Speaker 4 (32:30):
Yeah, but you like, the criminal record doesn't go, it's
not going anywhere. You can't pay someone to get rid
of it. Like I'll go a kriminal record that's twenty
pages long, and you're just it's going to stay there
for the rest of the life. I can't go overseas,
I can't do nothing because of it kind of thing,
you know. And Malo's in the same situation, so and yeah,
there's something that we've got to live with and like
adapt and overcome kind of thing, you know, make what

(32:51):
moves we can because you only got one chance of
this life, man, and you just fucking just got to
go out it every single day. And there's no there's
no time for getting comfortable. You can't get comfortable as
you just slip back kind of thing, you know.

Speaker 7 (33:02):
And now as well that we're sort of on the
legal side of things, we can see there's a lot
of legal ways to go around, consorting and parole and
a lot of things like that. Like the end of
the day, yeah, they might pipe up all you stay
like at the moment, were running our courses and the
police just do drives around the bot because at the
end of the day, there's no reason for them to
come in there, and they can't come in there because

(33:23):
there's nothing near that they come in there for the
end of the day. Where they can do is watch
from afar because that's just how the world is nowadays.
But we have no issue going through parole and doing
all the paperwork that we have to do. To get
approved for us to hang out and do this stuff,
because the end of the day, like once it goes
through a boss's desk or goes across it and they
see what we're doing and see what we're trying to
hang out to be involved in, we have no doubt

(33:45):
that they won't have an issue with that, you know
what I mean, even if it's under a close watchful lie,
that's no issue for us because the end of the day,
there's nothing for us to worry about.

Speaker 4 (33:53):
Even now, the day we're handing out our brochures, like
going to all the stores everything, We're going around to
every single clop station, you've center, whatever it is, had
and in our bosus saying.

Speaker 6 (34:00):
Look, we're here trying to do a good thing kind
of thing.

Speaker 4 (34:02):
Can we put our brochures up in your clop shop
or you center or whatever. It was, like congratulations, go ahead,
like kind of thing you know which is good.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
See I love that bro.

Speaker 4 (34:14):
Doing the right kind of thing normally going in the
handcuff or whatever, you know, And this is the thing.
And I've got like I was started shaking the ship
walking into the coups. I'm like, fucksd here, but.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
And that's the reality. See this is us.

Speaker 5 (34:29):
It's like, you know, like I've had a report every
week with us for the last five years, right, and
I'm still reporting every Friday.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
They get to the point where I don't.

Speaker 5 (34:40):
I don't walk in there now with an ego and
an attitude or fuck you good morning?

Speaker 1 (34:44):
Can I report please?

Speaker 5 (34:45):
Oh yeah, mister Simpsons, but yeah, thanks by any story,
you know, the occasional lady at the front will go
our how's.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
Work going, you know how family or good?

Speaker 5 (34:53):
You're okay getting through it, and you actually stop and
you go, you know what, this is not a bad feeling.

Speaker 6 (34:58):
We still have.

Speaker 5 (35:00):
Well, you are doing the right and it's at moments
that that like you sort of acknowledge that you are
on the right path, you know, like years ago, the
last place you'd be walking even a police stay let alone.

Speaker 6 (35:14):
It It felt fucking weird.

Speaker 4 (35:16):
But I'm just trying to put out positive energy and
try to receive it back kind of thing. Whatever you
put out into this world, you're just going to receive that.

Speaker 6 (35:22):
Kind of thing, you know.

Speaker 4 (35:23):
But some situations you can't help. Like from where we
grew up and what we went through kind of thing.
There was a situations where we couldn't help because we're
just surrounded by just ship that we could not kind
of get.

Speaker 6 (35:36):
Out of, kind of thing to escape, want.

Speaker 4 (35:40):
To realize and mature enough to realize what was going
on and how we could escape that kind of reality.

Speaker 6 (35:45):
We got out of it and trying to make a
move now.

Speaker 5 (35:47):
So speaking of making a move, you're definitely doing that.
And let's talk more now about that, because I think
that we've touched enough on the background, and you know,
we're here for a positive chat and the positive chat
is about the road that you're both taking now and
everyone around you. Once again, I just want to commend
you because I feel that it's a great movement that
you basically have created and what you're.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
Doing, and like I say, I see your networking with
people that I know.

Speaker 5 (36:12):
We've got a lot of mutual connections and friends, and
I'm you know, you've got the support of some great
I hate the user word, but influencers, some good some
good people. And shout out to Hoodrich. You're a good
lad too, brother, And we know that you're out there
and you know, getting involved and you know people out
there that are really got no time for bullshit. But

(36:32):
are really there one hundred percent to be a part
of the positive cause.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
And let's just take a moment and I would like.

Speaker 5 (36:40):
Jed if you could explain, because the whole point of
these seasons now is we've sort of moved away from
that whole criminality and story of redemption and which is
a massive part of where you guys are, so kudos
to you. But it's about enabling people like ourselves who
don't have the skill sets, don't have the drive and
the knowledge, and don't have the support to be able

(37:00):
to chase their dreams. You know, you talk about the hardships,
and that's why I wanted to touch on the politics
around all this sort of thing because for anybody out
that it's wanting to try, it is fucking hard.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
But it's about keep going forward.

Speaker 5 (37:13):
And you've used some beautiful words about you know, not
sort of giving up and the way that you're moving forward,
embracing it and growing from it. This is what I
feel is so worthy to the listener and explain how
the whole beginning of your movement, what it is, and
where the.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
Direction is that you want to take it.

Speaker 4 (37:30):
Oh well, look, I played footage, so already footage training
does it for me kind of thing. Was all together,
all the brothers together to train and have a good time,
sweating together, pushing each other kind of thing, you know.
But then I was like, let's just start our own
session kind of thing. Let's build something from that. Let's
build an empire kind of thing.

Speaker 6 (37:46):
You know.

Speaker 4 (37:47):
We started off with about five or six people at
the first session, and then as the week's going on,
I started.

Speaker 6 (37:53):
A brand called the go Getters.

Speaker 4 (37:55):
Obviously, so I made a page, got on the business
name registered. I've done all that. I've got a b
and done all the rest. Done what you needed to do.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
Are you trying to get that to become a non
for profit as well?

Speaker 4 (38:05):
Yeah, construction had construction businesses. I've done all that for
about five six years, maybe even seven years. So I
was in the construction game for a while now.

Speaker 6 (38:15):
But like I wasn't happy doing it.

Speaker 7 (38:17):
You know.

Speaker 6 (38:17):
I'd wake up every day just hate in life.

Speaker 4 (38:18):
So I knew I had to make a change otherwise
I'd just continue to hate life kind of thing and
just fucking just fuck up, like that's where it would leave.

Speaker 6 (38:26):
Me kind of thing, you know.

Speaker 4 (38:28):
So I just threw in the towel with all that,
and I said, fuck this, I'm chasing my jeams. I'm
going for it. You know, I'm like, why not, Like,
what are we have to lose kind of thing. You know,
I'm going at it all in. I'm going all in.

Speaker 6 (38:38):
That's it.

Speaker 4 (38:38):
And so the first session we had five people there,
and then as week's gone on and just gradually kept
building and building and building, which I'm so grateful for
and I'm blessed every day. And we've been talking about
criminality and all the rest, but we've had people there
that's never even got a parking ticket before, you know, But.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
How good is that these are?

Speaker 5 (38:55):
These are like even with the Clink, like I get
messages from people that are you know, screws, coppers, executives, politicians,
that you know how much they're inspired by people like
yourselves and many and my other guests, and how they
were judgmental prior to listening to the Clink. I realized
to not be judgmental and that people can change and

(39:17):
do have a positive impact.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
With the background story.

Speaker 4 (39:20):
We're all bond together and like them, people that haven't
been involved in anything enjoy our stories and enjoy what
we're about.

Speaker 6 (39:27):
Kind of thing.

Speaker 4 (39:27):
You know, and they're actually like intrigued and intrigued not
look up to us, but like they're fascinating kind of thing. Yeah,
so we end up jelling together and end up building
a family kind of thing, you know. Like our last estion,
we've probably had fifty to one hundred people there.

Speaker 6 (39:43):
So it's just every week is a building. We're having
special guests coming almost every week. Everyone.

Speaker 4 (39:48):
I'm getting endless messages every single day just about this
stuff and what's happening and where it's going to go.

Speaker 6 (39:55):
And that's just for those for those.

Speaker 5 (39:57):
That don't know, these guys don't have a set space.
They and quote me if I'm wrong, please, But from
what I've sort of just yeah.

Speaker 4 (40:05):
We've actually we've actually worked like we're working with the
gym that we're at at the moment. He's getting involved
awesome and he wants to help us.

Speaker 7 (40:13):
Like it as much as our space. And yeah, our
main place is going to be the engine room, which
if it's sweet.

Speaker 4 (40:20):
But in saying that we do travel, we do go
anywhere do yeah yeah, yeah, but.

Speaker 5 (40:26):
You're like taking over big basketball cords and you.

Speaker 4 (40:30):
See come to you. We're more than happy to come
to you. We've got equipment, We've got everything that you need.

Speaker 7 (40:35):
So we're always down for a flash challenge wherever I
like that.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
The flashy just turn up and put it inwards.

Speaker 8 (40:42):
Let's just have a crack, just step into the yard
and start swinging.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
It's on no.

Speaker 4 (40:47):
No wet, feel good session and it's just like it's
all happiness.

Speaker 6 (40:52):
It's all positive vibes kind of thing.

Speaker 4 (40:54):
You know, you get through a good session and you
feel good after it, get a feed, after through recovery,
go for a swim, do whatever you know, and then
from that we just end up building a connection forever.

Speaker 5 (41:03):
So it's I see that you've been able to network
with other businesses that are getting involved, like from your socials.
That shows that you know, people believe in what you're doing.
And these aren't just small business these are really like
respected brands and respected people that are stepping into the
space and being a part.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
Of these workshops that you're doing.

Speaker 5 (41:23):
I think it's great, you know, because it's showing that
the belief is there across the board. It's not just
a put together thing of mates support mates. These are
people outside of the view your real that are coming
in that are happy to network with what you're doing.
I mean that right there to me shows that it's
a genuine positive space that you're creating and that you

(41:43):
really are making a difference and just power to is
because at the end of the day, that's the hardest
fucking thing is getting the approval, you know, the acceptance
of society.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
People are obviously accepting what you're doing.

Speaker 6 (41:58):
I understand.

Speaker 4 (41:59):
That's like what I said earlier, no reas, no what
kind of thing we're going to have, means every single
day we'll get knock back, a few, get approved, a few,
but like you just move forward.

Speaker 6 (42:08):
That's see it.

Speaker 7 (42:09):
And most of the time, I think the story speaks
for itself. So most of the people might come in hesitant,
and then once they actually looking after and care enough
to see, they see we're all not that different, you
know what I mean. We've all come from a struggle,
we're all doing the same thing, and they can all
come down and do a session recovery and then the
end of the day go home feel like they've done
something that is normal, that some structure, you know what

(42:31):
I mean.

Speaker 6 (42:31):
And I tell you everyone that's come they've all come back,
so I.

Speaker 1 (42:35):
Bet they have. I've seen the pitches of you boys
with no shirts on.

Speaker 8 (42:39):
Wouldn't they want to come back and hang out with
a bunch of sexy young fellas.

Speaker 6 (42:44):
All the top of the photo after the session.

Speaker 5 (42:48):
It's the pop I see, and I see that everybody's
there getting that fund.

Speaker 4 (42:53):
Following us everywhere we go, and that just shoot every
single day, you know, because people love that kind of stuff,
so they want to see what we're doing every day.
So we've got a media follow on us everywhere we
go all that session, videographers and everyone there. We've got
food there all the time. We supply everything there and
that's just out of our own pockets kind of thing
because we're trying to give back.

Speaker 7 (43:13):
Also a lot of team stuff for the people that
bring all the pre made meals like you said, shout
out to day with a lot of other boys that
come just with pre workout table stuff like that just
for everyone. The quick cover scoop bottle of water Jet
as well buys all the just big twenty four packs
of water and stuff to also put with the pre workout.
So just all them little things helps a lot of
people to come in. Bit of pump, just a bit
of pre workout, you know, what I mean, everyone feels

(43:34):
like a part. Everyone's talking, it's just thought about building
a community. Everyone's just there for each other. And that's
why we are people that are not even with parking tickets,
because at the end of the day, they just want
to build a community. Like say it was back in
your day where everyone was a part, Like everyone knew
everything about everyone and everyone sorted everything out in the community.
You know what I mean, everyone cared And yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
It's funny, mile.

Speaker 5 (43:55):
You know we talk of a bit of water and
a bit of pre workout, but yet for someone that
can't afford that or struggling that comes into your space
with no judgement and feels a part of a community.
Use that word community. I love that word because community
is so strong and so powerful. And if we only
realize that no man is an island and we do

(44:16):
come together and uplift you know, it has such an
impact when like minded people come together. I mean, look,
let's flip the coin and go back to a crew
of criminals.

Speaker 1 (44:26):
If you will like minded. Now, if they put their minds.

Speaker 5 (44:28):
Together to create some big earn, then you know, generally
it'll be all right. If they've got arfur brain, you
know what I mean, and there's obviously the risk, But
flip the coin and take that same mentality and put
it into a positive space, you know, and give people
that network and community of like minded people feeling good.
A bottle of water can mean so much, you know,

(44:51):
just knowing that there's a little bit of a snack
there at the end of it. That person may feel like, fuck,
I want to go, but I can't afford it, you know,
whatever it might be. Well, we all feel these emotions
that make us feel like we're not worthy, you know,
by you giving something the only that power to feel
worthy is awesome. And we know that we're through exercise.
I mean, I'm up at four o'clock every morning hitting

(45:11):
the road nine. I'm going to play football this weekend.
You know, I've got three games that I've booked in for.
I'm going to be fucked up and sore, but you
know what I'm doing it.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
You know, I love it.

Speaker 5 (45:24):
It's something that I'm proud of. And one of it's
for a massive Suicide Cup. It's I'm an all stars
team with x NRL and r L players. You know,
we're going to out there to take each other's heads
off for a bunch of it's going to be hard
for you know, I'm going to have a crack in
the opens. I'm no disillusion to the fact that I'm
probably going to end up busted and.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
Broken in the first five minutes.

Speaker 8 (45:43):
But I'm going to hit that ball off the back
fence and I'm going to make that first fucking run
the best. Now you're giving people that same sort of
feeling of coming into your space, running that ball off
the fucking back fans, hitting that defensive line, and just
getting up.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
And going I feel good, I feel a part of this. Yes,
let's go.

Speaker 7 (46:02):
And that's just all what it's about. At the end
of the day. Like we said, that's why we like.
We don't mind going through the nitdy and gritty. We
don't mind having to go jump through the cops, soups, pearls, hoops.
We don't mind about any of that because we're down
for the grind. We're down for the hustle, because the
end of the day, we know it means something so
exactly like you said, when we're doing a legal stuff, yeah,
put all your heads together. You might get something good,

(46:23):
but anything you get from that can be taken away
in a second, you know what I mean, a cop
full straight up, your stuff's not in your name, none
of it, you know what I mean. It's all been
attained legal. It's therefore anything you're building can be taken
away in a second. Anything you build legally, it's all
under pay per trail. Everything's you know what I mean,
in your name. Everything what you build is actually yours,
you know what I mean? What were you build is

(46:44):
you've earned it and you can keep it, you know
what I mean. So like that's where that sort of
like made us help the change as well, because we
made a couple of things whatever. Like I got out
of jail twenty six years old. I never even had
my learner's license before, never even had a car. I
never had a bank account before. Like now it's out,
I'm on my PS, I've got my bike, license, car, bike,
Like I've done it all. Like so just when you

(47:06):
get something a little like that that you never had
before in twenty six years, that shows that like actually
like doing the right thing actually pays, you know what
I mean. Everyone said, oh, yeah, crime pays this that.
Yeah it might pay that day, but in the long
run it it doesn't pay at all. But this stuff.
It pays like what you have, you obtain and you
keep and it all helps you get to where you

(47:26):
want to get.

Speaker 5 (47:27):
So, yeah, amazing. What's what's your sort of pillars of
the business? You know, what are your sort of codes
and morals within your business structure of want to achieve
the direction you're heading and where do you see yourself genuinely.

Speaker 1 (47:41):
In what you're doing.

Speaker 4 (47:42):
There's no limits to what we're doing. It's just going
to branch out to everything kind of thing, you know,
in the community. We're going to base ourselves everywhere. So
at the end of the day, we have no limits.
We're just going to keep working on it every single day.
And that's why people come and support us kind of thing,
you know, because they can see what we're trying to
do and they can see where it's going to end up.
You know, they can see the road that we're on.

(48:04):
And yeah, I've mentioned that many times on my social
media platforms.

Speaker 6 (48:08):
There's no limits to this game. So we're just going
to keep elevating.

Speaker 7 (48:12):
You said, the structures. Mostly the structures we're both the
around youth and sort of adults coming in out of prison.
They don't sort of have much so so he's mostly
handling all the youth side of things. So we go
to meetings together and stuff like that, but he will
speak to all the youth side of things. And me,
as you said, just been out of jail, so I
have a lot of say with boys whatever places, they

(48:32):
all say a lot of take to my story, so
we know how to make the session suit to them,
you know what I mean, or the sessions suit to
them exact people. So we're mostly focused on youth and
people that just can't break that cycle. So hyg's and
no gs, you know what I mean, We just want
to focus on them at both ends, you know what
I mean, Because the end of the day, like you, yeah,
you're doing great things, you're older, but the end of

(48:52):
the day, like us boys that are taking that off
now you set that for us, you know what I mean,
So like the end of the day, we want to
be able to snap that in for the older boys
and the younger boys. You because the end of the day,
like we said, we thank you do a lot for it.
The boys a lot of people to sort of just
help them get a leg up in everything. And like
you said, you're one of the older boys that led
sort of let us boys look at what can happen

(49:13):
apart from that life so therefore has pushed us along.
So we want to focus on all that even just
like I have anxiety from Jaiso. Even like we said
with the pre order and the workout and that a
lot of boys have anxiety. But even just someone walking
up and offering you a cup of pre workout or whatever,
it sort of takes that edgeway of talking to someone.
It breaks the ey set, It stops that bit of
anxiety or whatever that boys have, you know what I mean.

(49:35):
But like you said, the structures we're just based on
youth and older boys that just can't come snap in
out of the system. But at the end of the day,
all our sessions are all ages everyone. But the programs
and stuff like that we want to get based into
like with the government, and that once we have all
our checks and stuff to do with adults, now they
can't break the cycle. And of course all the youth
justice all that side.

Speaker 5 (49:56):
So you guys will be building actual workshops around developing
based from your obviously positive wellness environment and what.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
You're achieve even and create an actual pathway. Is that
what your goal is? To then open up doors and
networking through other orcs as well.

Speaker 4 (50:12):
Yeah, that's definitely what we're working on. Like we've been
having meetings in schools and community centers. We've combined with
a few original community centers, so we've been doing some
work with them.

Speaker 6 (50:22):
Yeah, so it's just going to lead off into that.

Speaker 4 (50:25):
We've got some big name companies that we've got meetings
within the next few days.

Speaker 6 (50:28):
So I don't want to put anything out there just a.

Speaker 5 (50:31):
Bit say okay, now, just just brow be humble, be proud,
and it's in God's hands, mate, it'll happen.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
It'll happen. Your actions are working, you.

Speaker 6 (50:38):
Want to stay humble as well. And grateful. Gratitude is
a big thing, you know.

Speaker 7 (50:42):
It's all about that children's check and just getting like
the government side of things because at the moment we're
running stuff. Yeah, we're going forward, but we're going to
hit that ceiling eventually where it comes to the paperwork
side of things where they're going to be trying to
hold us back on. So at the moment, ever since
we started, we've been pushing to get all our paperwork
side of things, sordid stuff like that, because it's only

(51:03):
a certain amount or percentage of things we can do
until then at the moment, all of our children's checks
are all pending, all waiting, constantly emailing, chasing them up,
stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
So you know what mile ife don't.

Speaker 5 (51:17):
And this is the thing and something I've had to learn,
you know, Like I've worked voluntarily for over the last
six years with different organizations Project Bullyard, the Rise Program
and all these other organizations, and no I can't get
a blue card. And the funny thing is, like I
agree with the blue card system as a father, I
just you know, you get these fucking sick fucks in
the sporting groups, pedophiles and sexual predators that came in.

(51:40):
We need to have we need to have this, you know,
but for blokes like ourselves that we're just knock about blokes,
you know, which are one million percent against anybody in
that space. And we won't disclose our personal feelings about that.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
And I'm sure everyone reads between the lines, you know.
All we are is a bit hardened, I guess from
the average person.

Speaker 5 (52:02):
But we're just normal people that want to do well
and others. But that blue card, you know, it is hard.
But in saying that too, you can work around that,
and that working around that is having somebody with the blue.

Speaker 1 (52:15):
Card with you to enable you to be able to
still do what you're passionate about.

Speaker 5 (52:21):
And that's how we've been able to do what we
do is I align myself with people with those credentials
because you know, what I do, I'm not going to
stop doing, but I have to legally do it correctly,
and as do you guys, and we want to do
it legally right because you know, you don't put in
all this hard work to have it pulled from under
you from one simple thing of someone el you didn't

(52:42):
have a blue card, you can't work in this space.
Well you know what more can a man want to
give or a woman that has truly got this lived
experience that want to share to others that there are
better ways? So yeah, from my point of view, I think,
don't ever let it be a full stop and just
you know, it's a comma, it's just a pause and
it's just like you said, you know, do everything around that.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
And okay, so you know, get parents to come along.

Speaker 5 (53:06):
I'm sure there's sporting parents that might come along they
have blue cards, because.

Speaker 7 (53:09):
I've already had a couple of people that said they're
happy to come to.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
The school with us.

Speaker 7 (53:13):
There you go, yeah, so you know what I mean.
We're already on the way to that. So that's what
we're doing. Everything we can pretty much get until that's
approved and then therefore we're going to have their eathing
people with blue cards, you name it.

Speaker 5 (53:28):
Now, I want to ask you, guys for the listeners
out there, give us obviously your point of contacts.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
How can they reach out to you? Where's your next event?

Speaker 5 (53:36):
What are you doing and how can people physically get
involved and support you?

Speaker 1 (53:40):
And we'll add the links and so on for you.

Speaker 5 (53:43):
If people want to reach out that are businesses or
in Sydney or where ever nationally they would love to
align with these young fellas and what they're doing, then
we can try and promote that for you guys. So
give us as much information for the listener out there
to be able to engage with you.

Speaker 4 (53:59):
So Instagram platform is go geters dot gg and then
our emails go geters gg outlook dot com. And our
next event is Sunday eight am at the engine room Railway,
Central Coast. They do special guests. We have already two
special guests coming. We might have a few more, but
I'll keep that quiet for now. Of course, they're usually huge.

(54:23):
We usually get fifty to one hundred people there.

Speaker 7 (54:25):
Yeah, the main days we have a Sundays Wednesdays six pm.
But they usually a lot of people have work, a
lot of people have lives that time, so they're usually
around fifty. But the ones on the Sundays in the mornings,
no one's around Sunday morning, so therefore people roll up
and we just get flooded. So yeah, say fifty on Sundays.
Can you reach to one hundred easy?

Speaker 6 (54:44):
Wow? There's going to be more sessions added as we
go on.

Speaker 5 (54:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (54:47):
For the we're only like seven weeks deep, so every
day we're still learning. Like, we're still learning every single day.
Even this podcast stuff like this is like probably one
of the first podcasts I've been on, so I'm.

Speaker 6 (54:58):
I'm still adjusting all this kind of things.

Speaker 7 (55:00):
You know, you know from it.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
Why not start at the top and be with the
best to kick off, like you you can only go
down from here.

Speaker 5 (55:06):
By Nah, big respect to anybody out there running a podcast,
because I can tell you now there's few people that
can say they've been in the game for longer than
four years and had five million downloads. But I know
that we have and like I'm very proud of being
able to provide these spaces for gentlemen, like anybody, women, gentlemen,

(55:28):
anybody that's out there truly having a go.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
I'm going to ask baby for you, and I want
you to answer each.

Speaker 5 (55:33):
Of you, just one question each, because what we do
within the Clink now is we like to create what
I call the toolbox.

Speaker 1 (55:40):
And at the end of each season of ten episodes,
there's two answers from each guest and that leaves twenty
tools in a box for somebody who's listened to all
the episodes to then try and be the best they
can be in their life and achieve their goals through
what you're doing.

Speaker 5 (55:56):
Give us Jed the best way of overcoming I guess
the rejections and the negativities and the naysayers. What is
your advice and then my low what it's like to
feel that success and how to maintain that feeling of
that high, that natural high, that positive and that success.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
From what your actions are doing.

Speaker 4 (56:17):
Everything's in the in the head, like it's all a
mental game. Change your perspective and how you look at
things kind of thing, you know. Use that negativity, use it,
turn it into a positive and eat off it.

Speaker 6 (56:26):
Make it, make you invincible, make it make you a
stronger person kind of thing, you know.

Speaker 4 (56:30):
And whatever's going to be thrown at you negative, it'sly
it's just going to make you do a bigger person
kind of thing, you know. So just keep going every
single day, don't give up, and just keep going at it.

Speaker 6 (56:40):
The world jewels. There's no limits to this, so amen
to that.

Speaker 7 (56:44):
Brother with me, It's just about making the steps. So
like I spoke about it for years, Oh yeah, I
want to change. I wanted to start, but really in
my head I was thinking about the next high. And
that's all about just taking that next step. Just actually
do an next A lot of people go what should
I do to help myself or what this? Just got
to take that step and just make it no matter what,
and just run it, you know what I mean. Don't
take it all that once, take little bits and pieces,

(57:05):
like like I said, I had to give up drugs
and then get on injections or just keep going because
the end of the time, it just keeps coming through.
But after all that, I made the whole decision and
then it got done. And then once you get that high,
and once you get that thing done, that's just it.
You're unstoppable after that because it's a better feeling to
any drugs or any crime you'll ever get. Like once
you actually see it and you see what the benefits

(57:26):
you breathed and that, you know what I mean, everyone
approves of it, you know what I mean, the police,
you found me, the government, anyone on the street, you
can approve of it. At the end of the day,
you can say that you earned it and you don't it.
Just have hard work and off your own back and
that's all that needs. Like, you don't need anything to
come with it. That's all you need.

Speaker 5 (57:42):
Love that mate, And to be honest with you, you know,
like at the end of the day, what a high,
What a natural high to be helping people and feeling
good and worthy.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
And I guess you looking in the mirror each day
knowing that you're not.

Speaker 5 (57:55):
Chasing that next smoke or that next shot, but you're
actually chasing that next session of networking with people, in
that next meeting and that next you know, maybe or
maybe not, you know, living on that edge of the unknown,
because it is unknown. Every time, like you said, you're
going and you're knocking on doors something, you get knocked
back from something. But you're going in there with that
positive hope that that HiT's going to be a high.
But at the same time you're not naive to the

(58:17):
fact that if it's not what you want, then you
will sort of accept that and embrace that and move forward. Look,
I just want to say that if any way, shape
or form we can support.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
You guys, we will. I'm proud to have yous on.

Speaker 5 (58:29):
I love to see change and off the back of
you know, some great positive work that myself and Jeremy
donov and have been doing with our youth up in
North Queensland. You know, to have you guys on is
really relevant, I think at the moment, so thank you
for your time.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
Guys.

Speaker 5 (58:44):
These two young men to go get us are really
out there, going and getting it, and their actions are
speaking louder than their words.

Speaker 1 (58:51):
I think these guys need to start taking booking.

Speaker 5 (58:53):
So if you're getting over one hundred people, it's going
to be fucking busy, and I wouldn't like to be
one of those.

Speaker 1 (58:57):
People that missed out. So we're all in the work,
you know, just keep smashing it and look, thank you
for your time, thank you for coming on the clink.

Speaker 6 (59:05):
No, I appreciate what you're doing, and yeah, yeah you
do a lot bro like thanks.

Speaker 7 (59:09):
Like we said, you're one of the older boys that
sort of give us away to try and see forward
and see that all the hard work will pay off.
You know what I mean, That earthing pays off. And yeah,
we just want to say thanks to you, and thanks
to everyone else that's giving it us a chance, all
the boys that we've worked with, all the boys that
come from the same thing as us and have given
us to show, all the other training people and just
all the businesses and that you know, we just appreciate

(59:30):
your things and.

Speaker 6 (59:31):
Go for.

Speaker 5 (59:33):
Guys, just keep pushing. It's a tough road, but the
road's worthy. At the end of the line, there you
have it to go.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
To get it.

Speaker 5 (59:38):
As the boys from Sydney making a massive impact and
really changing the way that our people see things and
the perception of what life once was to what it
is today.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
I want a big shout out to Pod Shape. We
can't do this without you.

Speaker 5 (59:51):
Sideways Surf always got our backs, and to everybody that's
taking the time to listen today. I hope there's something
worthy that you've taken from this chat, and we look
forward to delivering another podcast next week.

Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
Record.

Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
I'm done trying to make y'all comfortable for the record.
You ain't trying to grow down stuff for your for
the record, live on me going all the way for
the record, ain't trying to link, no, trying to waste
stop all for.

Speaker 3 (01:00:18):
The record, for the record, for the for the record.
Yea for the record, yea for the record, for the record.

Speaker 5 (01:00:39):
Mhm hm