October 2, 2025 • 36 mins
Hammer and Rob (along with professional handicappers Kenny Britt and David Stephanoff) are back for Week 5 of NFL action! Plays this week in include Rams hosting the 49ers, Tampa Bay at Seattle, Jags vs Chiefs, and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Excuse me, sir, Is this the Delta House?
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Sure, come in, they have cold beer and action on
the game. I'm shocked, shocked to find that gambling is
going on in half It's time for the degenerates next.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Door dollar dollar bills, y'all.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
I'm not one for hyperbole, but this could be the
greatest night of our lives. Oh my name is Jason Hammer.
I do the Hammer in Nigel's show in Indianapolis alongside
fellow radio host, former elected official, and tax cutting machine
Rob Kendall. Rob, it's my birthday today.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Happy birthday.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Forty eight years ago today God graced America with the
sexiest dude who's got backfat in America.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Now, you were let's see, you were conceived in the blizzard, Yes, the.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Big blizzard in Indiana in seventy seven.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yeah. Okay, So I say this about you that your uh,
you look pretty much the same as when I met
you twenty plus years ago. You're just much fatter now,
thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
I'll take that as.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
An other than that. I mean, I don't feel like
you've aged very much at all, which I still got.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
My boyish charm right, So understand this. At the time
of this podcast, which is around noon on a Tuesday here,
I'm not in the mood for losses. Of all days
on the calendar, I am not in the mood for losses.
We are not going to have a shitty round of
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betting on my birthday tonight.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Getting it for fanities out of the way early. Good job.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
That being said. I want action, want action tonight. Say
I'm not in love with this Thursday game that, like
all of that bluster that I just gave you, it's
gonna be the best that of our lives. I just
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am not in love with this game because the forty
nine ers are the walking wounded. So what do you
do with a team that's really wounded with a long
injury report, but also has a history of playing their
division rival pretty well? And that's what we're looking at tonight,
Thursday Night football, the forty nine Ers at the Rams.
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The Rams around an eight to an eight and a
half point home favorite.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Here.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
The over under is setting at forty four to forty five,
depending on where you're looking at. And again, broken record,
we say this all the time. Shop around, find the
number that's best for you. If you are not wed
to a specific sports book, then shop around. You can't
call yourself a degenerate if you don't have multiple accounts
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open where they give you the best promotion or you
find better numbers. And this is an sample of what
I'm talking about. The total on this game. If you
look around, you're going to find it anywhere from forty
four to forty five. That extra point is a big deal,
because raise your hand if you've ever been screwed by
just one point. I know my hand is in the
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air right now. So I found forty five on Bett Rivers.
You guys, do you But at the time of this podcast,
again noon on Thursday, I've got forty five at Bett
Rivers on the forty nine ers at the Rams, and
I am taking the under tonight, going with the under tonight. Look,
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the forty nine ers are just so banged up, and honestly,
I don't necessarily think it matters who the quarterback is.
If it's Rock Purdy, if it's Mac Jones. I mean,
it's kind of the same thing. But it's not just
the quarterbacks. So many dudes are banged up. And you've
also got a Rams team that, let's be honest, they
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put up big stats for fantasy, but they don't like
the scoreboard up here in Indie. We just saw the
Rams have Matthew Stafford have big passing yards, Pokin Nakua
have the most receiving yards he's ever had, and they
barely beat the Colts. Didn't score thirty points. It's not
like the Rams are putting up thirty and forty burgers.
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That's not the greatest show on turf. Rams despite them
putting up some numbers, and each of the rams last
five home games when they've been the favorite like they
are tonight, have gone under the total. It's division matchup.
These teams know each other. I think it's close. I
think you're gonna see a lot of running, and I
think you're gonna see the under. We're going under forty
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five tonight.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Rob. I like it because you know what, if the
Rams put up twenty eight the forty nine ers, even
if they got to seventeen, that'd be a push.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Just a push, right, And this is the importance of
that forty right. So if you can find the forty five,
get it right now. Forty four is close. I still
think I would take the under in this one. I
just don't know how many points the forty nine ers
are going to give you. I just don't know how
many points they are going to put on the board tonight.
And it's not because the Rams are putting up big
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numbers either. They've got great skill players, but man, it's
a short week. They're beat up. It was kind of
an emotional grinder for the Rams too. They had to
sneak out a win against the Colts, came down to
the last minute. So we're going to take the under
on Thursday. So coming up a little bit later on
when we visit the prop shop, I've got a couple
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prop bets for this game. We'll revisit that here in
just a little bit. All right, the game of the week,
And let's be honest, Rob, this is kind of a
third slate of games. Thanks they all stink, stinky college slate. Yeah,
we stinky NFL slate.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Probably one of those weeks I gotta go do someone
with my family. Get it out of the way.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
You almost went full Brian Kelly and had the Southern
accent with family.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
I mean, isn't this the week to get the weekend
to get the stuff done? Don't you plan your family
because you gotta do as a father, you gotta do
so much family stuff you couldn't do it now. That way,
you're not really missing anything, true.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
But you also tell the wife, tell the better half.
As we get close to football season, Listen, I'm your
bitch for the next couple of weeks. But once Sunday
at one o'clock happens, We're not going to the pumpkin patch.
We're not going to home depot. I'm not cutting the grass.
I am going to sit my big fat ass on
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the couch. I'm going to eat chicken wings and pizza,
maybe chili. I'm going to.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Have beer thro there, and I'm going to watch football.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I will watch Red Zone and I will watch my
team after football season is over. Wife, better half, I'm
your bitch once again. That's the way we do things
in the Hammer.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Ill have you threw the chili in there?
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Chili's good love chili?
Speaker 2 (07:03):
All right.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
So the game of the week is a battle of
two teams three and one. It is Tampa Bay at Seattle.
Seattle a little rested. They played the Thursday game last week,
and here comes Tampa Bay. They come in just an emotional,
crazy game against Philadelphia, a chaotic comeback late that falls
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a little short and now they're flying cross country. Rob
what do we make of this one? I'm looking at
the line right now, and I see Seattle as a
three to a three and a half point favorite. Again,
shop around, find the best number and the over under
sitting at forty four and a half.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Well, whatever I do with Baker Mayfield is wrong. Check
on him to win, they lose.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Is he the guy that beats you every time?
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Well, I think you're in this boat too, Yeah, but I.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Still feel like row your boat guy from Minnesota is
the captain of screws me every time Minnesota football. Bet
him to win, they lose, bet him to lose, they win.
Road The damn boat guy beats me every time.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Okay, So I can't really do anything related to that.
So I figured, you know, Baker Mayfield to score a
lot of points. Seattle's offense surprisingly good. Sometimes they got
some dudes.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
They're pretty balanced.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Yeah, whatever I do, it's probably gonna be wrong. Anyway.
I'll just go over forty four and a half points
and cheer for some offense.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
I love how confident you are. I'm probably gonna be
wrong anyway. Like I can literally hear everybody listening to
this podcast, going, why do I let this go?
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Because I told you the Europeans are going to kick
the snot out of the Americans at the Ryder Cup,
and I can live off those losses for the rest
of the year. Pal.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
And you also got a number of balling on the budgets, correct.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
That's correct? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Look, I got enough to
be passable on everything but the golf, so occasionally I'm
gonna get something right.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
So you're over forty four and a half here Tampa
Bay at Seattle, that's right. I'm going to lay the
three with Seattle. And again at the time of this poto,
I see three, it's probably going up to three and
a half, if it hasn't already. I love Seattle in
the spot more rest at home, and they're pretty balanced.
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I mean, they get enough running out of the committee
and Sam Darnold can chuck it down the field. So
I will lay the three. This is just a tough
spot for Tampa Bay. I think they're beat up after
that physical game against Philly and now they're flying cross
country and Seattle's a tough place to play, So I
will lay the three with the Seahawks. Here I'm six
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and two, so far in the NFL. Dang, So I
say that because I'm due for a horrific fall.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
But here's the thing, you've been so bad in college,
he doesn't already balanced itself out.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
So I started bad in college. But we've hit four
of the last six. H so we're starting to tread back.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Now.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
That's how bad my start was in college. I've hit
four of the last six and I'm just now digging
myself out of the hole. But my NFL gear has
been pretty good, which means I'm due to just absolutely
crap my pants. But I feel pretty good about Seattle
laying the three. I would actually take it to three
and a half if I had to. I feel like
they win this by four or more.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
I feel like Baker Mayfield. Trying to bet on Baker Mayfield.
It's like the hottest, most crazy chick you could possibly date,
where some of the time it's just amazing, but then
there's just hell on Earth, and you gotta is the
is the amazing worth the hell on Earth? And I
just hate betting Baker Mayfield game, So thank you for
making me bet a Baker Mayfield game.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
This feels like it's become a therapy session. Like, tell
me about some of the chicks you used to plow
and broad ripple rob because it kind of feels like
you're talking about Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
All right.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Coming up next our professional handicappers Kenny Britt of KB
Sports and David stefanoff a follow Never Fade dot Com.
We'll get their thoughts on Seattle and Tampa and let
them pick any other game they want. They are coming
up next. Back on the Degenerates next stoor. I'm Jason Hammer,
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and I was wondering if Kenny Britt of KB Sports
was going to join us today. I didn't know if
he was in mourning after his Cincinnati Reds had what
may have been the worst playoff performance of any team
and a major sport in years. Kenny, we were texting
last night, and we'll get to your NFL picks in
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just a moment. We were texting last night. I know
you're a fan of the Reds, but was that the
worst playoff team that we've seen, not just in Major
League Baseball but maybe in professional sports in recent memory.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
They'd have to be in the conversation. There's no doubt
about that. They would have to be in the conversation.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Because I know Seattle won a division when they were
under five hundred a number of years ago, but they
ultimately won a playoff game too.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
You know, in the NFL, I think we've had a
couple Vision winners with losing records. Not maybe not in
the last couple of years, but I know that's happened.
Let's stay in the last decade. But just their performers
in general, I mean, the game. The games are over
by the third or fourth inning. But like you said
last night in our texting, you know, if if you
would have said in April, hey, would you take it?
I feel like, hell, yeah, I'll take you right, I'll
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take it in a heartbeat. And you know, they've got
a lot of young talents. So we'll see la develop
over the course of the winner and maybe next year,
you know, a little bit bigger of a run, who knows.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
And if they could play the Cubs for one and
sixty two games, they'd be undefeated.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
So all right, all right, let's.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Get down to business here again. Kenny Britt of KB Sports,
the owner, the man that makes it all happen. We've
given you the game of the week this week on
What's kind of a ass slate of games.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Right, Oh my god, it is really not.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
A signature game, but we've tabbed it Tampa Bay at Seattle.
Both teams are three and one. Depending on where you look.
I'm seeing Seattle as a three point home favorite. It's
a three and a half spot. Other books, forty four
and a half is the total you got to play
on this, Kenny.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
I do two things real quick. Number one of the
small aw was Jason Hammer a happy birthday. I'm sure
Rob's already done it. Maybe he broke out his two
dollars bill and got your little president. I'm not sure
about that.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Rob's not spending money on anybody but himself, and as
sure as hell was in spending a whopping two dollars Kenny.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Right. Secondly, man, just real quick, these penalties in college
in the NFL is just is horrible. Tory Ak can
hit the nill on the head if it doesn't matter
in concerning that play full of the flag. It's just
it's terrible. It's absolutely terrible. It's not fun to watch
the games right now, man, I mean every other you know,
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not just the accepted penalties, but the amount of penalty
flags you probably get twenty percent is not even accepted.
There's thirty flags being thrown a game. That's almost every
other play.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
It takes away from the entertainment value. It does. It
really does, it does.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
That's my little soapbox real quick. But yeah, Tampa Bay Seattle,
like you said, it's a pretty bad slate for the NFL.
I think that's the second week we said that this
year already. Baker Mayfield, you know, he's one of those guys.
When he first came came out, you know, pretty to
be a pretty big, good player in Oklahoma, we all
kind of hated him. He was a pretty big douchebag.
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But over the course of time. Me anyway, I'm not
sure how you feel, but I kind of like the guy.
I like to watch him play.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Dudes can change over time, Kenny. They have this is
this is kind of my theory on Bryce Harper in baseball.
Like when Bryce Harper first came into the league, he
put all the iblack on was a big, arrogant pain
in the ass. Now that he's a little bit older
and he's just kind of a red ass and he
wants to win. I'm actually all right, I've kind of
done a one eighty on Bryce Harper.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Yeah, yeah, And I'm the same way with Baker. I
enjoy watching him play. Everybody says he's a great teammate.
When he went and when he got his big contract
last year, he went took all of his offensive linemen
out and went and played video games with him. So
he's just he's just a dude, you know, He's just
a football player now, So I really enjoy watching him
play the game itself. Now, Seattle's good at home, They've
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got a really good defense at home. Tampa Bay isn't
a little banged up, so I know that about to
play that I'm getting ready to give you Jason might
not make sense, but it's just it's just too good
to not to not play it. You can find this
on DraftKings and FanDuel. I'm taking Tampa Bay first half
over nine and a half points. That's just a touchdown
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in a field goal. It seems like Tampa Bay always
has a way. They've got so many receivers. I know
Mike Evans is out, but Godwin's back and Buka, Bucky
Irvy's you know, a good running back, good receiver. So
I want to stay where with the game. It's as
far as a side or a total on the full game.
But I really like Tampa Bay getting or over nine
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and a half in the first half.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
All right, Tampa Bay team total over nine and a
half first half. I like it.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Man.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
We're getting down to the weeds here, all right, all right,
let's keep that way rolling, man, let's keep it rolling.
I'll give you the option to pick any other game
on this poor slate of games that we have to
choose from.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Here, right, I'm going with Denver at Philly. I just
saw when I was sort of handicapping this week for NFL.
AJ Brown's at it again, I guess Sunday after the game,
he made a tweet about it was it was from
a Bible verse about if you're not if you're not accepted,
if you're not wanted, if you're not heard, if you're
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not listening to its time to go. Well he's trying.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Now he's denied that was about his Eagles teammates Kenny,
and I guess you have to believe him, right.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Yeah, right, right right, Jason, do you know what he
gets for fourteen catches this year? You know he still
gets what's that? He's his ninety six million dollars, who
so shut the fuck up. You know what I'm saying.
You know last year he throwed his little tinder cantum
on the bench reading a book during the game. I
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think there's something going on. Yes, Philadelphia's four and o
and four and oh in the NFL, it's four and oh.
It's hard to do, but you know, they beat a
bad Kansas City team three weeks ago by three.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
See.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
I don't think that's a bad Kansas City team though, like.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
I think it was when they played him. When they
played him, was a bad team, yeah, yeah, yea yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
And win in Kansas City though with Patrick Mahomes at quarterbacks,
never a bad win.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Right, But then they struggled against the Rams. Rams at
him down pretty good. All their games have been pretty close.
They're just there. Just seems to be something wrong in Philadelphia.
Maybe I'm wrong. I don't know, but they're not blowing
anybody out there. They don't look dominant. Denver's had two
close losses. One was to hear to Indianapolis. I like Denver.
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I like what they're doing. They got they got a
you know, Bo Nick's a good quarterback. They've got a
good one two punch at running back with Harvey and
dobbyn I just I just like everything Denver's doing. I'm
getting four and a half on fan duel. The games
are too close to Philly. I'm taking four and a
half in Denver, man, and I'm gonna even sprinkle some
money lineup plus one sixty six. I like Denver. I
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think they might win this game out right. Something just
to me, tell me your thoughts. Something just seems to
miss in Philadelphia.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
See, I'm on the opposite side there. I think Philly
is one of those teams that can overcome a diva
wide receiver because they've got other good receiving options. It's
not like, if you know one guy's acting like a
horse's ass, the passing game shuts down. No, they can
just get more balls to another receiver. They can hit
more tight ends, they can run the ball a little bit. Uh,
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I'm all right with Philly. I think they're four and
oh is four and oh, But I'm with you. I
think four and a half is a lot of points
for a Denver squad that, depending on which Sunday you
see them, can either look really good or bo Nix
can look like the guy that spent a million years
in college.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
That is true. And also you know coaching, I'm a
I'm a Sean fan, So yeah, I'm on Denver plus
the four and a half and I'm gonna sprinkle a
little money line on it. I just I just like Denver.
I just something to me seems to missing Philly. We'll see,
Like I said, they're four and out and four oh
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in the NFL is Borida. It's not that it's not
that easy to do, so we'll see. But I do
like Denver, and I do like in quite a bit
on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
All right, So Kenny is going to take Tampa Bay's
first half team total over at nine and a half
and then Denver catching four and a half at Philly.
If somebody wants to become a client of yours, if
they want the NFL, the college football, the baseball playoffs, hell,
NBA preseason begins today to day. Where can they go?
Speaker 4 (20:10):
Yeah? I think that game will start before this podcast
is actually posted. So that's that's unbelievable. That's already going on.
Find me on Facebook KB sports do baseball, basketball, college
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of the year. There's thirty five million dollars with the purses,
so we'll get into that late in the month, but
just have that in the back of your mind. Everything's
on Facebook, KB Sports. Happy birthday to Jason Hammer. Let's
all have a big weekend this weekend, thee I think
we all pretty much had a pretty good weekend last weekend.
Things might be evening out a little bit. The first
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three weeks was a bloodbath for the general public. I
think we're I think we're getting back to, you know,
a little more even kill. So let's let's let's all
crush the books this weekend.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Jason my man, I appreciate you.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Thank you all right, thank you guys.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
So we go from one professional handicapper to another. The
guy behind followut Never Fade dot Com one of our favorites,
David Stefanoff professional handicapper and David. The game of the
week that everybody's picking around here, Seattle Tampa Bay. Depending
on which book you're looking at, you're seeing Seattle minus three.
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There's some three and a half's out there over under
sitting right around forty four and a half, depending on
where you look. Again, we always say shop around. It's
not a great slate of games this week, David, But
what are your thoughts on Tampa Bay at Seattle?
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Thank you Hammer for having me. I wore the golden sombrero,
and me remind everybody I wore the golden sabrera la
week going four, So uh, you admit.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
It, though you know what not a lot of professional
handicappers would go on a podcast, a social media and
own it the way that you do.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
I will do it.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
That's what I do for a living. So I have
to own everything. Is if you win, morning, you lose people.
Transpiracy is what do you have to do in this business?
But we got a horrible schedule NFL this week, absolutely horrible.
We got the Saints and Giants, my my ugly game,
Panthers Miami. But this one might be the actually a
pretty good game. But I think it's gonna be one
sided game, Parammer. I think it's really gonna be one
sided So what.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Are we leaning here? I've got my play on Seattle
minus three. I like Seattle at home, Seattle with more rest.
This is just a tough spot for Tampa Bay, coming
off just an emotional grinder against Philadelphia and then having
to fly out West for a more rested squad. I
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love the Seahawks in this one.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
What about you, I'm matching with you this in this week.
I like Seattle minus three here. They've won three in
a row. Extra good day off. You know they beat Arizona.
Arizona not very good. But this tough spot for Tampa
Bay go. I know, I hate betting against Baker.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
You cannot.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
I mean when I bet on him, you know you're
getting money's worth. I just think it's the best spot.
Seat's a tough place to play, man, That's a tar
place to play up there in Seattle. I love laying
the three here. Like I said, Seattle's one three in
a row across country for Tampa they don't. It's not
don't they don't travel, but they mean they don't travel bad.
But this is not a game. I think the places
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are done. Injuries, a lot of injuries here. Mike Evins
still ain't playing. I do have a little prop play here.
If Bucky Irvin does play hammer real quick, let me
throw it out for everybody there. Bucky Irvin over three
and a half receptions. The reason I like this he's
on my fantasy team. He gets me points every week.
And I just seen this. I followed the last two
weeks his reception total. It was two and a half
last week. It's three and a half last two or
two and a half two weeks ago, three and a
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half last two weeks, he's got four every game. He's
got six twice. I like Bucky Irvin if he plays
over three and a half receptions. But my play here
for the podcast, I'm laying the three with Seattle. If
you've got to shop around, you probably go shopper. I'd
lay the three. But if you have to buy the hook,
lay the three with Seattle Seahawks. I think it's a
one sided game.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
Here.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Seet running running, will run all over tamp They got
two good running backs. Lay the points with Seattle here,
all right.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
So you say it's possibly a one sided game. I
like Seattle in this one as well.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Would you be.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Willing to lay three and a half because I know
three and a halfs are out of some sportsbooks.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
I think I think if you're gonna get three, you
better get it now because close to game time the
public is gonna play the favorite. But Vegas already the
sharp's already been here. On Seattle, they already moved to
three and a half early. The money line is way
too high for this. It's almost a two hundred minus
two hundred for this game. So yeah, I would I
would buy the hook. I would lay the buy the
hook maybe one one twenty and lay the Seattle minus three.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Okay, so listen, I don't like to buy the hook.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
That's where you're anti buying the hooks. I know. I'm
the check group. I hate to do it. Sometimes, Key
Numbers don't football. I think you have two hammer. Sometimes
I might save you from save you from a push
to the loss.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
You're right, you're right, and you're the professional and I'm not.
But I always thought like, if you have to buy
the hook, then you're probably on the wrong side. You
should probably take the other side to make the more
money as opposed to buying it. But I feel like
this is a game where Seattle could win by four,
They could win by six, right, they could.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Right, I just don't want to lose in the lands
on three. That's the only thing I got, two key
numbers got.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
That's my spot. There.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
It's like buy the insurance of blackjack.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
I don't do that either.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Sometimes I probably should. All right, give me another game.
You can pick any game on the slate.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
I'm going back to the well we had two weeks ago.
I gave you the Panthers plus six at home versus
the Falcons. They've bet then thirty to nothing. Now the
Panthers are sitting at home within on the Miami Dolphins. Boy,
there are some world beaters. Surely Miami Dolphins without Tyreek Hill.
I think they'll be a better team, maybe without Tyreek Hill.
But it's a horrible spot in Miami. The coach is
already on the hot seat, already against the Jets. Who
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Jets are horrible. I know the Panthers ain't nothing to
run home about, but hey, they're good at home. They'll
show up.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
I'm not the lines right now.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Is one of them getting one half? It's stuck on
this all week long. I don't need the one and
a half. I'm on the Carolina Panthers money line to
beat the Dolphins at home Sunday. That's my number one
VIP play for you guys pre this week. Panthers money
line over the Dolphins.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
There we go.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
We don't need your stinking points. We are going moneyline
with the Panther love.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
This line was one and a half. This line was
one and a half though before Tyreek Hield got hurt,
and it really hasn't budged off, of which it's been
one someplaces. So just letter by know that.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
All right? So, Panthers money line right now minus one
oh five in that neighborhood right there, depending on where
you're looking at. So yeah, I mean, get a little
bit more money. If you're gonna take the Panthers plus
one plus one and a half, you're probably looking at
minus one twelve minus one fifteen. Might as well go
money line. Get a few extra bucks at minus one
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oh five. All right, Uh, David, if somebody wants to
become a client of yours, We've got the NFL going on,
college football, Major League Baseball playoffs, which you have been
rolling all all of that stuff. How can we find you.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Hey Hammer, don't you forget the NBA preseason starts tonight today.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Yeah, it's already underway. Baby's NBA here.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
NBA's less than three weeks away. In college basketball is
thirty two days away. It's gonna be nuts. Anyways, if
you follow me everywhere Facebook, TikTok, Instagram, you can get
sign up for my VIP, sign up for my football package.
You get baseball and tennis free for us the year.
As Hammer said, I've been phenomenal so far in the
basically baseball plus. We're seven to one so far. I'm
not gonna toot my horn, but we win way more
we lose. Like I said, basketball here, we here soon.
(27:31):
Thank you Hammer, the captain of the ship, Rob Kendall,
Kenny Britt have a great week. And if you need
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Speaker 1 (27:45):
All right, you've heard from our professional handicappers, but we
are not done passing out free plays. No, no, no,
we are gonna take a little trip to the prop
shop and mister Monday Night will saunter back into the sto.
Rob's got some action on Monday. That's coming up next.
We are the Degenerates next door. Back on the Degenderates
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next Door, make sure you've got your wallet, grab your phone,
get in the car. We're heading down to the prop shop.
Prop shop. I'll let you lick the lineup up. Go ahead, girl,
don't you stop, keep phone going prop. We start with tonight,
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Thursday Night football. We are on Christian McCaffrey over fifty
four and a half yards receiving, receiving. Somebody has got
to get the football for the forty nine ers. They're
beat up, they're banged up. They've got to put the
ball in the hand of the best playmaker. Over fifty
four and a half yards receiving. Let's look at his
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targets in the first four games. Just targets ten, seven, fifteen,
and eleven. So if you think the forty nine ers
are gonna have to dink and dunk to move the chains,
that's your huckleberry. Look at his yards receiving first four games,
seventy three, fifty two, eighty eight, ninety two. We're gonna
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ride the lightning. Christian McCaffrey over fifty four and a
half yards receiving tonight and rob here's a little plus
money for tonight, Davonte Adams. Anytime touchdown, anytime touchdown, you
can get that right around plus one twenty five. I
like plus money. And he's got nine red zone targets
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this year that leads the league. Now, he doesn't have
many red zone catches, but Stafford's looking for him in
the red zone. That's all I'm asking for is an opportunity.
Give me Davonte Adams anytime touchdown tonight.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
I wouldn't have even been tell you what team he
was on. Oh really, I knew he was on the Raiders.
Scored a touchdown against the Colts last week, which to
the Jets. He's still good.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
And I hope he does have that taco bell in
his house because I think that's such a power move
if the commercial is real, like I hope that is real.
That's such a power move to have a taco bell
in your house. Games for this weekend, we're gonna go
back to Jackson Smith n Jigba you love him over
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eighty four and a half receiving yards, Dak Prescott under
two forty six and a half against the Jets and
because he did not throw when last weekend. I don't
see Jackson Dart going two NFL starts and not throwing
one pick. Rookie quarterbacks don't do that in the NFL
over zero point five interceptions for Jackson Dart this upcoming weekend.
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Those are my picks at the prop shop. Now, if
you're just a cheap, cheap, horrible bastard. If you're oh,
I don't know, Rob Kendall, that's right, and you only
bet one or two dollars, but you want a big
payoff so you can brag to your friends. We've got
you covered. We bring in Rob for balling on a budget.
(31:13):
This happens to be a one hundred dollars minimum bet table.
Perhaps you'd be more comfortable in one of our lower
stakes tables.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
All right, you cheap skates, it's time for Rob Kendall's ballin'
on a.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Budget, very tight with a dollar How can we take
very little and get a full day's worth of entertainment
and also double that money at the very least?
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Rob, Well, funny you ask Camra, because if you take
the ballet on the budget and all these hits, you'll
be able to start at nine in the morning and
go all the way until eleven in the evening.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
That's right, that's right, let's go. I'm not doing anything
at home this weekend.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
All right, So here we go. We start with what
country are they in this time? France, Dublin, gold jacket,
green jacket, Germany, wherever they're playing. Minnesota is playing the
Browns in a foreign country. I know that, and that's
the early game. We're going with Minnesota minus one ninety
on the money line. Then we got the Cardinals taking
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on the Titans minus four fifty on the money line,
the Lions minus three and a half at the Bingles.
We're buying this down to three and a half.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Oh you're buying down.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
I think it's ten and a half is the actual
spread minus two ninety five. And the Bills were buying
this one down minus two and a half at the
Patriots minus three fifty. So we got Minnesota money line,
Cardinals money line, Lions buying down to three and a half,
Bills buying down to two and a half. You put
them all together, you get plus two twenty one ten
dollars bet page of twenty two twelve.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
If you got to buy it down, you're on the
wrong side. If you got to buy it down, I'm
on the wrong side.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
You all damn entertainment for ten bucks.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
And the games in London Rob London.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
I knew it was in some foreign country.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
But that's not all of the NFL action. No, no, no,
We've got I think a pretty interesting matchup on Monday Night,
and that means we need miss.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Monday Night to.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Bring us home. Rob Trevor Lawrence first, Patrick Mahomes Jags Chiefs.
I still don't know if Trevor Lawrence is any good
or not. Guy's been in the league for a number
of years. We're about, you know, approaching the halfway mark
of the NFL year. Still don't know if he's any
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good or not.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Here's what we're doing. The Chiefs are laying three and
I'm going with the Chiefs. And here's why. Taylor Swift
has an album coming out Friday. So I gotta watch
this game, and I gotta hear nine million times about
Taylor Swift and her album, and maybe she'll be at
the game, which means also to see her nine million times.
Then I'm gonna cheer for the Chiefs. I'm gonna try
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to make some money on this endeavor. Now. I would
sooner cut my arm off normally than cheer for the Chiefs,
But if I gotta be subjected to it, I'm gonna
try to make a few bucks in the process. So
I'm gonna take the Chiefs, who looked much better. Now.
The Ravens may stink is where does that? Seems to
say a loud.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
And Lamar Jackson banged up, So there's that. But they
were whipping the Ravens ass before yeah, or went out.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Yeah, So we're gonna do this. We're gonna hope Trevor
Lawrence isn't actually any good, which is weird. Four or
five years in, we still don't know whether he's any
good or not. But I'm gonna take the Chiefs lay
in the three.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
The demise of the Chiefs, like everybody burying them, may
have been a little premature, Yeah, a little premature. It's
been a brutal schedule for Kansas City. But I'm with
you on this.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Same record as the Bears, big Boy.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Stop it Stop.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
They got the same record. I love.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
In our text thread that we have with the professional
handicappers and the other degenerates here, you were complaining that
the game of the week is between two three and
one teams Tampa and Seattle. You're the only one that
complained about that game. You watch the Bears every week,
and yet you're complaining that two teams three and one.
I don't want to have to watch that game. You
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watch the Bears every week, it's like watching a couple
of people going out in the backyard throwing a footballer.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
So cut the craft. That was a hell of a
game they had last week, all the way down to
the final play. It did.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
It did go down to the final play. Do you
find yourself rooting for them to win or lose? It's
still early enough in the season where maybe they could
turn around, But I think you're a guy that understands
they're still not very good. So do you want a
better draft choice?
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Oh? I just want to win the bets because they're
losers anyway. It's not like they're gonna win it all
or even make the playoffs, so I might as well
just get it out of the way. I will always
cheer for my bet Jason Hammer.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
So there are two different types of Bear fans, right.
There's the perpetual it's always nineteen eighty five guy. Yeah, like,
if the Bears win the opener, oh my god, it's
nineteen eighty five, I'm gonna go snort some sausage. And
then there's the guys like you where if they do win,
you're almost like Randy Quait's character in Major League Two.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
They'll blow it. They're not any good. Well, look at
are they beaten. They've beaten the Cowboys and the Raiders.
I mean, I don't think.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
The Cowboys are awful. The Cowboys have at least a
competent quarterback that can move the chains. They can't stop anybody,
but they can put some points up.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Look, the Bears are gonna break my heart eventually, I'd
rather just win the money. That being said, we're two
and two, which is the same record as the Chiefs.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Big Boy for Rob kend and Kenny Bred of KAB Sports,
David stephanoff a fallen never fade. I'm Jason Hammer. I
have to get the hell away from this lunatic. Good luck, everybody.
We will talk to you Tuesday for the College Football
Betting Show. Until then, may the odds be ever in
your favor,
Excuse me, sir, Is this the Delta House?
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Sure, come in, they have cold beer and action on
the game. I'm shocked, shocked to find that gambling is
going on in half It's time for the degenerates next.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Door dollar dollar bills, y'all.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
I'm not one for hyperbole, but this could be the
greatest night of our lives. Oh my name is Jason Hammer.
I do the Hammer in Nigel's show in Indianapolis alongside
fellow radio host, former elected official, and tax cutting machine
Rob Kendall. Rob, it's my birthday today.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Happy birthday.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Forty eight years ago today God graced America with the
sexiest dude who's got backfat in America.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Now, you were let's see, you were conceived in the blizzard, Yes, the.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Big blizzard in Indiana in seventy seven.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yeah. Okay, So I say this about you that your uh,
you look pretty much the same as when I met
you twenty plus years ago. You're just much fatter now,
thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
I'll take that as.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
An other than that. I mean, I don't feel like
you've aged very much at all, which I still got.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
My boyish charm right, So understand this. At the time
of this podcast, which is around noon on a Tuesday here,
I'm not in the mood for losses. Of all days
on the calendar, I am not in the mood for losses.
We are not going to have a shitty round of
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betting on my birthday tonight.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Getting it for fanities out of the way early. Good job.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
That being said. I want action, want action tonight. Say
I'm not in love with this Thursday game that, like
all of that bluster that I just gave you, it's
gonna be the best that of our lives. I just
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am not in love with this game because the forty
nine ers are the walking wounded. So what do you
do with a team that's really wounded with a long
injury report, but also has a history of playing their
division rival pretty well? And that's what we're looking at tonight,
Thursday Night football, the forty nine Ers at the Rams.
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The Rams around an eight to an eight and a
half point home favorite.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Here.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
The over under is setting at forty four to forty five,
depending on where you're looking at. And again, broken record,
we say this all the time. Shop around, find the
number that's best for you. If you are not wed
to a specific sports book, then shop around. You can't
call yourself a degenerate if you don't have multiple accounts
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open where they give you the best promotion or you
find better numbers. And this is an sample of what
I'm talking about. The total on this game. If you
look around, you're going to find it anywhere from forty
four to forty five. That extra point is a big deal,
because raise your hand if you've ever been screwed by
just one point. I know my hand is in the
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air right now. So I found forty five on Bett Rivers.
You guys, do you But at the time of this podcast,
again noon on Thursday, I've got forty five at Bett
Rivers on the forty nine ers at the Rams, and
I am taking the under tonight, going with the under tonight. Look,
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the forty nine ers are just so banged up, and honestly,
I don't necessarily think it matters who the quarterback is.
If it's Rock Purdy, if it's Mac Jones. I mean,
it's kind of the same thing. But it's not just
the quarterbacks. So many dudes are banged up. And you've
also got a Rams team that, let's be honest, they
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put up big stats for fantasy, but they don't like
the scoreboard up here in Indie. We just saw the
Rams have Matthew Stafford have big passing yards, Pokin Nakua
have the most receiving yards he's ever had, and they
barely beat the Colts. Didn't score thirty points. It's not
like the Rams are putting up thirty and forty burgers.
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That's not the greatest show on turf. Rams despite them
putting up some numbers, and each of the rams last
five home games when they've been the favorite like they
are tonight, have gone under the total. It's division matchup.
These teams know each other. I think it's close. I
think you're gonna see a lot of running, and I
think you're gonna see the under. We're going under forty
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five tonight.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Rob. I like it because you know what, if the
Rams put up twenty eight the forty nine ers, even
if they got to seventeen, that'd be a push.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Just a push, right, And this is the importance of
that forty right. So if you can find the forty five,
get it right now. Forty four is close. I still
think I would take the under in this one. I
just don't know how many points the forty nine ers
are going to give you. I just don't know how
many points they are going to put on the board tonight.
And it's not because the Rams are putting up big
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numbers either. They've got great skill players, but man, it's
a short week. They're beat up. It was kind of
an emotional grinder for the Rams too. They had to
sneak out a win against the Colts, came down to
the last minute. So we're going to take the under
on Thursday. So coming up a little bit later on
when we visit the prop shop, I've got a couple
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prop bets for this game. We'll revisit that here in
just a little bit. All right, the game of the week,
And let's be honest, Rob, this is kind of a
third slate of games. Thanks they all stink, stinky college slate. Yeah,
we stinky NFL slate.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Probably one of those weeks I gotta go do someone
with my family. Get it out of the way.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
You almost went full Brian Kelly and had the Southern
accent with family.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
I mean, isn't this the week to get the weekend
to get the stuff done? Don't you plan your family
because you gotta do as a father, you gotta do
so much family stuff you couldn't do it now. That way,
you're not really missing anything, true.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
But you also tell the wife, tell the better half.
As we get close to football season, Listen, I'm your
bitch for the next couple of weeks. But once Sunday
at one o'clock happens, We're not going to the pumpkin patch.
We're not going to home depot. I'm not cutting the grass.
I am going to sit my big fat ass on
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the couch. I'm going to eat chicken wings and pizza,
maybe chili. I'm going to.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Have beer thro there, and I'm going to watch football.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I will watch Red Zone and I will watch my
team after football season is over. Wife, better half, I'm
your bitch once again. That's the way we do things
in the Hammer.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Ill have you threw the chili in there?
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Chili's good love chili?
Speaker 2 (07:03):
All right.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
So the game of the week is a battle of
two teams three and one. It is Tampa Bay at Seattle.
Seattle a little rested. They played the Thursday game last week,
and here comes Tampa Bay. They come in just an emotional,
crazy game against Philadelphia, a chaotic comeback late that falls
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a little short and now they're flying cross country. Rob
what do we make of this one? I'm looking at
the line right now, and I see Seattle as a
three to a three and a half point favorite. Again,
shop around, find the best number and the over under
sitting at forty four and a half.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Well, whatever I do with Baker Mayfield is wrong. Check
on him to win, they lose.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Is he the guy that beats you every time?
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Well, I think you're in this boat too, Yeah, but I.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Still feel like row your boat guy from Minnesota is
the captain of screws me every time Minnesota football. Bet
him to win, they lose, bet him to lose, they win.
Road The damn boat guy beats me every time.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Okay, So I can't really do anything related to that.
So I figured, you know, Baker Mayfield to score a
lot of points. Seattle's offense surprisingly good. Sometimes they got
some dudes.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
They're pretty balanced.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Yeah, whatever I do, it's probably gonna be wrong. Anyway.
I'll just go over forty four and a half points
and cheer for some offense.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
I love how confident you are. I'm probably gonna be
wrong anyway. Like I can literally hear everybody listening to
this podcast, going, why do I let this go?
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Because I told you the Europeans are going to kick
the snot out of the Americans at the Ryder Cup,
and I can live off those losses for the rest
of the year. Pal.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
And you also got a number of balling on the budgets, correct.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
That's correct? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Look, I got enough to
be passable on everything but the golf, so occasionally I'm
gonna get something right.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
So you're over forty four and a half here Tampa
Bay at Seattle, that's right. I'm going to lay the
three with Seattle. And again at the time of this poto,
I see three, it's probably going up to three and
a half, if it hasn't already. I love Seattle in
the spot more rest at home, and they're pretty balanced.
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I mean, they get enough running out of the committee
and Sam Darnold can chuck it down the field. So
I will lay the three. This is just a tough
spot for Tampa Bay. I think they're beat up after
that physical game against Philly and now they're flying cross
country and Seattle's a tough place to play, So I
will lay the three with the Seahawks. Here I'm six
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and two, so far in the NFL. Dang, So I
say that because I'm due for a horrific fall.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
But here's the thing, you've been so bad in college,
he doesn't already balanced itself out.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
So I started bad in college. But we've hit four
of the last six. H so we're starting to tread back.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Now.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
That's how bad my start was in college. I've hit
four of the last six and I'm just now digging
myself out of the hole. But my NFL gear has
been pretty good, which means I'm due to just absolutely
crap my pants. But I feel pretty good about Seattle
laying the three. I would actually take it to three
and a half if I had to. I feel like
they win this by four or more.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
I feel like Baker Mayfield. Trying to bet on Baker Mayfield.
It's like the hottest, most crazy chick you could possibly date,
where some of the time it's just amazing, but then
there's just hell on Earth, and you gotta is the
is the amazing worth the hell on Earth? And I
just hate betting Baker Mayfield game, So thank you for
making me bet a Baker Mayfield game.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
This feels like it's become a therapy session. Like, tell
me about some of the chicks you used to plow
and broad ripple rob because it kind of feels like
you're talking about Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
All right.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Coming up next our professional handicappers Kenny Britt of KB
Sports and David stefanoff a follow Never Fade dot Com.
We'll get their thoughts on Seattle and Tampa and let
them pick any other game they want. They are coming
up next. Back on the Degenerates next stoor. I'm Jason Hammer,
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and I was wondering if Kenny Britt of KB Sports
was going to join us today. I didn't know if
he was in mourning after his Cincinnati Reds had what
may have been the worst playoff performance of any team
and a major sport in years. Kenny, we were texting
last night, and we'll get to your NFL picks in
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just a moment. We were texting last night. I know
you're a fan of the Reds, but was that the
worst playoff team that we've seen, not just in Major
League Baseball but maybe in professional sports in recent memory.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
They'd have to be in the conversation. There's no doubt
about that. They would have to be in the conversation.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Because I know Seattle won a division when they were
under five hundred a number of years ago, but they
ultimately won a playoff game too.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
You know, in the NFL, I think we've had a
couple Vision winners with losing records. Not maybe not in
the last couple of years, but I know that's happened.
Let's stay in the last decade. But just their performers
in general, I mean, the game. The games are over
by the third or fourth inning. But like you said
last night in our texting, you know, if if you
would have said in April, hey, would you take it?
I feel like, hell, yeah, I'll take you right, I'll
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take it in a heartbeat. And you know, they've got
a lot of young talents. So we'll see la develop
over the course of the winner and maybe next year,
you know, a little bit bigger of a run, who knows.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
And if they could play the Cubs for one and
sixty two games, they'd be undefeated.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
So all right, all right, let's.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Get down to business here again. Kenny Britt of KB Sports,
the owner, the man that makes it all happen. We've
given you the game of the week this week on
What's kind of a ass slate of games.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Right, Oh my god, it is really not.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
A signature game, but we've tabbed it Tampa Bay at Seattle.
Both teams are three and one. Depending on where you look.
I'm seeing Seattle as a three point home favorite. It's
a three and a half spot. Other books, forty four
and a half is the total you got to play
on this, Kenny.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
I do two things real quick. Number one of the
small aw was Jason Hammer a happy birthday. I'm sure
Rob's already done it. Maybe he broke out his two
dollars bill and got your little president. I'm not sure
about that.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Rob's not spending money on anybody but himself, and as
sure as hell was in spending a whopping two dollars Kenny.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Right. Secondly, man, just real quick, these penalties in college
in the NFL is just is horrible. Tory Ak can
hit the nill on the head if it doesn't matter
in concerning that play full of the flag. It's just
it's terrible. It's absolutely terrible. It's not fun to watch
the games right now, man, I mean every other you know,
(13:54):
not just the accepted penalties, but the amount of penalty
flags you probably get twenty percent is not even accepted.
There's thirty flags being thrown a game. That's almost every
other play.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
It takes away from the entertainment value. It does. It
really does, it does.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
That's my little soapbox real quick. But yeah, Tampa Bay Seattle,
like you said, it's a pretty bad slate for the NFL.
I think that's the second week we said that this
year already. Baker Mayfield, you know, he's one of those guys.
When he first came came out, you know, pretty to
be a pretty big, good player in Oklahoma, we all
kind of hated him. He was a pretty big douchebag.
(14:31):
But over the course of time. Me anyway, I'm not
sure how you feel, but I kind of like the guy.
I like to watch him play.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Dudes can change over time, Kenny. They have this is
this is kind of my theory on Bryce Harper in baseball.
Like when Bryce Harper first came into the league, he
put all the iblack on was a big, arrogant pain
in the ass. Now that he's a little bit older
and he's just kind of a red ass and he
wants to win. I'm actually all right, I've kind of
done a one eighty on Bryce Harper.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Yeah, yeah, And I'm the same way with Baker. I
enjoy watching him play. Everybody says he's a great teammate.
When he went and when he got his big contract
last year, he went took all of his offensive linemen
out and went and played video games with him. So
he's just he's just a dude, you know, He's just
a football player now, So I really enjoy watching him
play the game itself. Now, Seattle's good at home, They've
(15:23):
got a really good defense at home. Tampa Bay isn't
a little banged up, so I know that about to
play that I'm getting ready to give you Jason might
not make sense, but it's just it's just too good
to not to not play it. You can find this
on DraftKings and FanDuel. I'm taking Tampa Bay first half
over nine and a half points. That's just a touchdown
(15:45):
in a field goal. It seems like Tampa Bay always
has a way. They've got so many receivers. I know
Mike Evans is out, but Godwin's back and Buka, Bucky
Irvy's you know, a good running back, good receiver. So
I want to stay where with the game. It's as
far as a side or a total on the full game.
But I really like Tampa Bay getting or over nine
(16:06):
and a half in the first half.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
All right, Tampa Bay team total over nine and a
half first half. I like it.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Man.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
We're getting down to the weeds here, all right, all right,
let's keep that way rolling, man, let's keep it rolling.
I'll give you the option to pick any other game
on this poor slate of games that we have to
choose from.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Here, right, I'm going with Denver at Philly. I just
saw when I was sort of handicapping this week for NFL.
AJ Brown's at it again, I guess Sunday after the game,
he made a tweet about it was it was from
a Bible verse about if you're not if you're not accepted,
if you're not wanted, if you're not heard, if you're
(16:47):
not listening to its time to go. Well he's trying.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Now he's denied that was about his Eagles teammates Kenny,
and I guess you have to believe him, right.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Yeah, right, right right, Jason, do you know what he
gets for fourteen catches this year? You know he still
gets what's that? He's his ninety six million dollars, who
so shut the fuck up. You know what I'm saying.
You know last year he throwed his little tinder cantum
on the bench reading a book during the game. I
(17:17):
think there's something going on. Yes, Philadelphia's four and o
and four and oh in the NFL, it's four and oh.
It's hard to do, but you know, they beat a
bad Kansas City team three weeks ago by three.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
See.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
I don't think that's a bad Kansas City team though, like.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
I think it was when they played him. When they
played him, was a bad team, yeah, yeah, yea yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
And win in Kansas City though with Patrick Mahomes at quarterbacks,
never a bad win.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Right, But then they struggled against the Rams. Rams at
him down pretty good. All their games have been pretty close.
They're just there. Just seems to be something wrong in Philadelphia.
Maybe I'm wrong. I don't know, but they're not blowing
anybody out there. They don't look dominant. Denver's had two
close losses. One was to hear to Indianapolis. I like Denver.
(18:04):
I like what they're doing. They got they got a
you know, Bo Nick's a good quarterback. They've got a
good one two punch at running back with Harvey and
dobbyn I just I just like everything Denver's doing. I'm
getting four and a half on fan duel. The games
are too close to Philly. I'm taking four and a
half in Denver, man, and I'm gonna even sprinkle some
money lineup plus one sixty six. I like Denver. I
(18:27):
think they might win this game out right. Something just
to me, tell me your thoughts. Something just seems to
miss in Philadelphia.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
See, I'm on the opposite side there. I think Philly
is one of those teams that can overcome a diva
wide receiver because they've got other good receiving options. It's
not like, if you know one guy's acting like a
horse's ass, the passing game shuts down. No, they can
just get more balls to another receiver. They can hit
more tight ends, they can run the ball a little bit. Uh,
(18:56):
I'm all right with Philly. I think they're four and
oh is four and oh, But I'm with you. I
think four and a half is a lot of points
for a Denver squad that, depending on which Sunday you
see them, can either look really good or bo Nix
can look like the guy that spent a million years
in college.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
That is true. And also you know coaching, I'm a
I'm a Sean fan, So yeah, I'm on Denver plus
the four and a half and I'm gonna sprinkle a
little money line on it. I just I just like Denver.
I just something to me seems to missing Philly. We'll see,
Like I said, they're four and out and four oh
(19:36):
in the NFL is Borida. It's not that it's not
that easy to do, so we'll see. But I do
like Denver, and I do like in quite a bit
on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
All right, So Kenny is going to take Tampa Bay's
first half team total over at nine and a half
and then Denver catching four and a half at Philly.
If somebody wants to become a client of yours, if
they want the NFL, the college football, the baseball playoffs, hell,
NBA preseason begins today to day. Where can they go?
Speaker 4 (20:10):
Yeah? I think that game will start before this podcast
is actually posted. So that's that's unbelievable. That's already going on.
Find me on Facebook KB sports do baseball, basketball, college
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(20:31):
of the year. There's thirty five million dollars with the purses,
so we'll get into that late in the month, but
just have that in the back of your mind. Everything's
on Facebook, KB Sports. Happy birthday to Jason Hammer. Let's
all have a big weekend this weekend, thee I think
we all pretty much had a pretty good weekend last weekend.
Things might be evening out a little bit. The first
(20:52):
three weeks was a bloodbath for the general public. I
think we're I think we're getting back to, you know,
a little more even kill. So let's let's let's all
crush the books this weekend.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Jason my man, I appreciate you.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Thank you all right, thank you guys.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
So we go from one professional handicapper to another. The
guy behind followut Never Fade dot Com one of our favorites,
David Stefanoff professional handicapper and David. The game of the
week that everybody's picking around here, Seattle Tampa Bay. Depending
on which book you're looking at, you're seeing Seattle minus three.
(21:30):
There's some three and a half's out there over under
sitting right around forty four and a half, depending on
where you look. Again, we always say shop around. It's
not a great slate of games this week, David, But
what are your thoughts on Tampa Bay at Seattle?
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Thank you Hammer for having me. I wore the golden sombrero,
and me remind everybody I wore the golden sabrera la
week going four, So uh, you admit.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
It, though you know what not a lot of professional
handicappers would go on a podcast, a social media and
own it the way that you do.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
I will do it.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
That's what I do for a living. So I have
to own everything. Is if you win, morning, you lose people.
Transpiracy is what do you have to do in this business?
But we got a horrible schedule NFL this week, absolutely horrible.
We got the Saints and Giants, my my ugly game,
Panthers Miami. But this one might be the actually a
pretty good game. But I think it's gonna be one
sided game, Parammer. I think it's really gonna be one
sided So what.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Are we leaning here? I've got my play on Seattle
minus three. I like Seattle at home, Seattle with more rest.
This is just a tough spot for Tampa Bay, coming
off just an emotional grinder against Philadelphia and then having
to fly out West for a more rested squad. I
(22:45):
love the Seahawks in this one.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
What about you, I'm matching with you this in this week.
I like Seattle minus three here. They've won three in
a row. Extra good day off. You know they beat Arizona.
Arizona not very good. But this tough spot for Tampa
Bay go. I know, I hate betting against Baker.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
You cannot.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
I mean when I bet on him, you know you're
getting money's worth. I just think it's the best spot.
Seat's a tough place to play, man, That's a tar
place to play up there in Seattle. I love laying
the three here. Like I said, Seattle's one three in
a row across country for Tampa they don't. It's not
don't they don't travel, but they mean they don't travel bad.
But this is not a game. I think the places
(23:26):
are done. Injuries, a lot of injuries here. Mike Evins
still ain't playing. I do have a little prop play here.
If Bucky Irvin does play hammer real quick, let me
throw it out for everybody there. Bucky Irvin over three
and a half receptions. The reason I like this he's
on my fantasy team. He gets me points every week.
And I just seen this. I followed the last two
weeks his reception total. It was two and a half
last week. It's three and a half last two or
two and a half two weeks ago, three and a
(23:47):
half last two weeks, he's got four every game. He's
got six twice. I like Bucky Irvin if he plays
over three and a half receptions. But my play here
for the podcast, I'm laying the three with Seattle. If
you've got to shop around, you probably go shopper. I'd
lay the three. But if you have to buy the hook,
lay the three with Seattle Seahawks. I think it's a
one sided game.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
Here.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Seet running running, will run all over tamp They got
two good running backs. Lay the points with Seattle here,
all right.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
So you say it's possibly a one sided game. I
like Seattle in this one as well.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Would you be.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Willing to lay three and a half because I know
three and a halfs are out of some sportsbooks.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
I think I think if you're gonna get three, you
better get it now because close to game time the
public is gonna play the favorite. But Vegas already the
sharp's already been here. On Seattle, they already moved to
three and a half early. The money line is way
too high for this. It's almost a two hundred minus
two hundred for this game. So yeah, I would I
would buy the hook. I would lay the buy the
hook maybe one one twenty and lay the Seattle minus three.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Okay, so listen, I don't like to buy the hook.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
That's where you're anti buying the hooks. I know. I'm
the check group. I hate to do it. Sometimes, Key
Numbers don't football. I think you have two hammer. Sometimes
I might save you from save you from a push
to the loss.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
You're right, you're right, and you're the professional and I'm not.
But I always thought like, if you have to buy
the hook, then you're probably on the wrong side. You
should probably take the other side to make the more
money as opposed to buying it. But I feel like
this is a game where Seattle could win by four,
They could win by six, right, they could.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Right, I just don't want to lose in the lands
on three. That's the only thing I got, two key
numbers got.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
That's my spot. There.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
It's like buy the insurance of blackjack.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
I don't do that either.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Sometimes I probably should. All right, give me another game.
You can pick any game on the slate.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
I'm going back to the well we had two weeks ago.
I gave you the Panthers plus six at home versus
the Falcons. They've bet then thirty to nothing. Now the
Panthers are sitting at home within on the Miami Dolphins. Boy,
there are some world beaters. Surely Miami Dolphins without Tyreek Hill.
I think they'll be a better team, maybe without Tyreek Hill.
But it's a horrible spot in Miami. The coach is
already on the hot seat, already against the Jets. Who
(25:53):
Jets are horrible. I know the Panthers ain't nothing to
run home about, but hey, they're good at home. They'll
show up.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
I'm not the lines right now.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Is one of them getting one half? It's stuck on
this all week long. I don't need the one and
a half. I'm on the Carolina Panthers money line to
beat the Dolphins at home Sunday. That's my number one
VIP play for you guys pre this week. Panthers money
line over the Dolphins.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
There we go.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
We don't need your stinking points. We are going moneyline
with the Panther love.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
This line was one and a half. This line was
one and a half though before Tyreek Hield got hurt,
and it really hasn't budged off, of which it's been
one someplaces. So just letter by know that.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
All right? So, Panthers money line right now minus one
oh five in that neighborhood right there, depending on where
you're looking at. So yeah, I mean, get a little
bit more money. If you're gonna take the Panthers plus
one plus one and a half, you're probably looking at
minus one twelve minus one fifteen. Might as well go
money line. Get a few extra bucks at minus one
(26:49):
oh five. All right, Uh, David, if somebody wants to
become a client of yours, We've got the NFL going on,
college football, Major League Baseball playoffs, which you have been
rolling all all of that stuff. How can we find you.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Hey Hammer, don't you forget the NBA preseason starts tonight today.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Yeah, it's already underway. Baby's NBA here.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
NBA's less than three weeks away. In college basketball is
thirty two days away. It's gonna be nuts. Anyways, if
you follow me everywhere Facebook, TikTok, Instagram, you can get
sign up for my VIP, sign up for my football package.
You get baseball and tennis free for us the year.
As Hammer said, I've been phenomenal so far in the
basically baseball plus. We're seven to one so far. I'm
not gonna toot my horn, but we win way more
we lose. Like I said, basketball here, we here soon.
(27:31):
Thank you Hammer, the captain of the ship, Rob Kendall,
Kenny Britt have a great week. And if you need
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and don't forget to follow number fade.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
All right, you've heard from our professional handicappers, but we
are not done passing out free plays. No, no, no,
we are gonna take a little trip to the prop
shop and mister Monday Night will saunter back into the sto.
Rob's got some action on Monday. That's coming up next.
We are the Degenerates next door. Back on the Degenderates
(28:09):
next Door, make sure you've got your wallet, grab your phone,
get in the car. We're heading down to the prop shop.
Prop shop. I'll let you lick the lineup up. Go ahead, girl,
don't you stop, keep phone going prop. We start with tonight,
(28:31):
Thursday Night football. We are on Christian McCaffrey over fifty
four and a half yards receiving, receiving. Somebody has got
to get the football for the forty nine ers. They're
beat up, they're banged up. They've got to put the
ball in the hand of the best playmaker. Over fifty
four and a half yards receiving. Let's look at his
(28:53):
targets in the first four games. Just targets ten, seven, fifteen,
and eleven. So if you think the forty nine ers
are gonna have to dink and dunk to move the chains,
that's your huckleberry. Look at his yards receiving first four games,
seventy three, fifty two, eighty eight, ninety two. We're gonna
(29:16):
ride the lightning. Christian McCaffrey over fifty four and a
half yards receiving tonight and rob here's a little plus
money for tonight, Davonte Adams. Anytime touchdown, anytime touchdown, you
can get that right around plus one twenty five. I
like plus money. And he's got nine red zone targets
(29:38):
this year that leads the league. Now, he doesn't have
many red zone catches, but Stafford's looking for him in
the red zone. That's all I'm asking for is an opportunity.
Give me Davonte Adams anytime touchdown tonight.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
I wouldn't have even been tell you what team he
was on. Oh really, I knew he was on the Raiders.
Scored a touchdown against the Colts last week, which to
the Jets. He's still good.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
And I hope he does have that taco bell in
his house because I think that's such a power move
if the commercial is real, like I hope that is real.
That's such a power move to have a taco bell
in your house. Games for this weekend, we're gonna go
back to Jackson Smith n Jigba you love him over
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eighty four and a half receiving yards, Dak Prescott under
two forty six and a half against the Jets and
because he did not throw when last weekend. I don't
see Jackson Dart going two NFL starts and not throwing
one pick. Rookie quarterbacks don't do that in the NFL
over zero point five interceptions for Jackson Dart this upcoming weekend.
(30:47):
Those are my picks at the prop shop. Now, if
you're just a cheap, cheap, horrible bastard. If you're oh,
I don't know, Rob Kendall, that's right, and you only
bet one or two dollars, but you want a big
payoff so you can brag to your friends. We've got
you covered. We bring in Rob for balling on a budget.
(31:13):
This happens to be a one hundred dollars minimum bet table.
Perhaps you'd be more comfortable in one of our lower
stakes tables.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
All right, you cheap skates, it's time for Rob Kendall's ballin'
on a.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Budget, very tight with a dollar How can we take
very little and get a full day's worth of entertainment
and also double that money at the very least?
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Rob, Well, funny you ask Camra, because if you take
the ballet on the budget and all these hits, you'll
be able to start at nine in the morning and
go all the way until eleven in the evening.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
That's right, that's right, let's go. I'm not doing anything
at home this weekend.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
All right, So here we go. We start with what
country are they in this time? France, Dublin, gold jacket,
green jacket, Germany, wherever they're playing. Minnesota is playing the
Browns in a foreign country. I know that, and that's
the early game. We're going with Minnesota minus one ninety
on the money line. Then we got the Cardinals taking
(32:10):
on the Titans minus four fifty on the money line,
the Lions minus three and a half at the Bingles.
We're buying this down to three and a half.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Oh you're buying down.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
I think it's ten and a half is the actual
spread minus two ninety five. And the Bills were buying
this one down minus two and a half at the
Patriots minus three fifty. So we got Minnesota money line,
Cardinals money line, Lions buying down to three and a half,
Bills buying down to two and a half. You put
them all together, you get plus two twenty one ten
dollars bet page of twenty two twelve.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
If you got to buy it down, you're on the
wrong side. If you got to buy it down, I'm
on the wrong side.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
You all damn entertainment for ten bucks.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
And the games in London Rob London.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
I knew it was in some foreign country.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
But that's not all of the NFL action. No, no, no,
We've got I think a pretty interesting matchup on Monday Night,
and that means we need miss.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Monday Night to.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Bring us home. Rob Trevor Lawrence first, Patrick Mahomes Jags Chiefs.
I still don't know if Trevor Lawrence is any good
or not. Guy's been in the league for a number
of years. We're about, you know, approaching the halfway mark
of the NFL year. Still don't know if he's any
(33:23):
good or not.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Here's what we're doing. The Chiefs are laying three and
I'm going with the Chiefs. And here's why. Taylor Swift
has an album coming out Friday. So I gotta watch
this game, and I gotta hear nine million times about
Taylor Swift and her album, and maybe she'll be at
the game, which means also to see her nine million times.
Then I'm gonna cheer for the Chiefs. I'm gonna try
(33:45):
to make some money on this endeavor. Now. I would
sooner cut my arm off normally than cheer for the Chiefs,
But if I gotta be subjected to it, I'm gonna
try to make a few bucks in the process. So
I'm gonna take the Chiefs, who looked much better. Now.
The Ravens may stink is where does that? Seems to
say a loud.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
And Lamar Jackson banged up, So there's that. But they
were whipping the Ravens ass before yeah, or went out.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Yeah, So we're gonna do this. We're gonna hope Trevor
Lawrence isn't actually any good, which is weird. Four or
five years in, we still don't know whether he's any
good or not. But I'm gonna take the Chiefs lay
in the three.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
The demise of the Chiefs, like everybody burying them, may
have been a little premature, Yeah, a little premature. It's
been a brutal schedule for Kansas City. But I'm with
you on this.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Same record as the Bears, big Boy.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Stop it Stop.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
They got the same record. I love.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
In our text thread that we have with the professional
handicappers and the other degenerates here, you were complaining that
the game of the week is between two three and
one teams Tampa and Seattle. You're the only one that
complained about that game. You watch the Bears every week,
and yet you're complaining that two teams three and one.
I don't want to have to watch that game. You
(34:54):
watch the Bears every week, it's like watching a couple
of people going out in the backyard throwing a footballer.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
So cut the craft. That was a hell of a
game they had last week, all the way down to
the final play. It did.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
It did go down to the final play. Do you
find yourself rooting for them to win or lose? It's
still early enough in the season where maybe they could
turn around, But I think you're a guy that understands
they're still not very good. So do you want a
better draft choice?
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Oh? I just want to win the bets because they're
losers anyway. It's not like they're gonna win it all
or even make the playoffs, so I might as well
just get it out of the way. I will always
cheer for my bet Jason Hammer.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
So there are two different types of Bear fans, right.
There's the perpetual it's always nineteen eighty five guy. Yeah, like,
if the Bears win the opener, oh my god, it's
nineteen eighty five, I'm gonna go snort some sausage. And
then there's the guys like you where if they do win,
you're almost like Randy Quait's character in Major League Two.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
They'll blow it. They're not any good. Well, look at
are they beaten. They've beaten the Cowboys and the Raiders.
I mean, I don't think.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
The Cowboys are awful. The Cowboys have at least a
competent quarterback that can move the chains. They can't stop anybody,
but they can put some points up.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Look, the Bears are gonna break my heart eventually, I'd
rather just win the money. That being said, we're two
and two, which is the same record as the Chiefs.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Big Boy for Rob kend and Kenny Bred of KAB Sports,
David stephanoff a fallen never fade. I'm Jason Hammer. I
have to get the hell away from this lunatic. Good luck, everybody.
We will talk to you Tuesday for the College Football
Betting Show. Until then, may the odds be ever in
your favor,
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