Is Trump About to Take Out Maduro While Tucker Buys a House in Qatar? — A New Plot Twist - The Erin Molan Show

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, and good night. Welcome
to the Erin Mullins Show. As always, it's so great
to have your company. Thank you so much for tuning
in wherever you are around the world. A couple of
really key guests for you during this episode. Ambassador James
Story was the American Ambassador to Venicezuela. Knows this country

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inside out, knows the leader Maduro inside out. He is
a voice of reason in this space, and he weighs
into what the current administration doing, the way they are
applying pressure, whether it's effective or not, whether he agrees
with the current method regarding the attacking of boats. It's
a fascinating discussion. And I was watching Fox News Channel

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last night and someone on there was saying.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
He's got hours, potentially.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
If not days before this all blows up land strikes.
Does the US back up what they're doing in this
sea on land in Venezuela and could that cause a
much bigger conflict. These are all very important questions, and
I'll put these to the former American Ambassador to Venezuela,
James Story, very very shortly. We've also got Professor Jeffrey

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Lax He's a New York City based professor at Cooney University,
an incredible man, brilliant brain, super clued in. Has had
a front row seat essentially to watching what has occurred
in that city post October seven, particularly, and now, of
course with Mum Danny in place, it's only going to
get worse. He also weighs into Tucker Carlson in Doha

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and says that the fact he's buying a house is
worse than if he were taking money from that regime.
It's a fascinating conversation as they both are. Let me
get to them very shortly, but first, just a few
little updates for you. Donald Trump has unloaded on CBS
in sixty minutes. Now that's normally nothing new, but there's
new ownership here, including Barry Weiss coming into oversea. Now

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he's done this following their interview with Marjorie Taylor Green,
who we called a low IQ traitor. We know how
he feels about her, but he saved his real malice
for the new ownership, which is paramount, saying they are
no better than the old owners. He pointed out that
he's just been paid millions by them for fake reporting,
and he says that under this new management, it's actually

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gotten worse.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
He's a little bit of the interview that he's.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
Referring, and I mentioned Barry Weiss, of course, who is
a very well known name, stands for truth, an incredibly
impressive woman from the Free Press, very very impressive. But
I made the point when this all was kind of signed, done,
deal delivered, that it's going to be very hard for
her to change a culture in.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
There, particularly quickly.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
It is rife with propaganda, with left leaning, with woke, with.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Complete almost non reliance.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
On the truth, which is a real issue if you
are a news network. So it's going to take time, absolutely,
But you would have thought with something this significant and
an interview that Donald Trump will clearly see that, you'd
think they would have done their due diligence here. So
it would be very interesting to see if they respond
to this. And I have no doubt that they would

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have looked at this very closely, knowing it would have
been antagonistic and made sure that everything was in place
under the leadyship at Barrywis. But we will soon see.
I suspect they will respond in some way. Now, Nick
Fuentes has joined Piers Morgan and Anna Kasparian has joined
Bill Mar.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
Kind of mixed results for both.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
I thought Mar really nailed some home truths to Anna,
who I think is so full of hate and she
is entirely blinded by it.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
Have a quick look. You won't get exhilarated, right.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
I know you're going to say genocide, and I'm going
to say, well, you don't know what the word means.
And it's like if you don't even know what the
words mean.

Speaker 4 (03:52):
And I know what the word means, right, yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
Okay, it's when you try to wipe out an entire
population of people, which they didn't come.

Speaker 5 (03:59):
Close to doing.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
I mean, they prosecuted a war in which they were attacked,
which everybody gets to do.

Speaker 4 (04:04):
Which, by the way, let me just say, you know,
if they were doing, if they were literally going after Hamas,
which that is legitimate, that's totally legitimate, but that's not
what's happening.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
Amas hides in tunnels underneath hospitals. You can't go in.
Hamas is the bad guy. If you don't get that,
you don't get much.

Speaker 4 (04:23):
What Hamas did on October seventh was disgusting killing. I mean,
I don't make it. I don't I don't at all
hold back on that.

Speaker 6 (04:32):
In fact, well that's the.

Speaker 5 (04:33):
Easiest thing in the world to say.

Speaker 6 (04:34):
And no one disagree there, nobody disagrees.

Speaker 4 (04:37):
There are people who disagreeing.

Speaker 5 (04:38):
Baby, Yes, there are there.

Speaker 4 (04:40):
Are people, And I'm wrong because hamas they're freedom fighters?

Speaker 3 (04:45):
Are we talking about there that people see hamas, The
people who hate oppression so much are on the side
of the people.

Speaker 5 (04:54):
And that's not just hamas. If you social justice.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
Warriors, if you have any other issue besides gender apartheid
in the world that is above that, you're just a
joke that if you're if you hate oppression, they do.
There is one issue which should be above all because
it affects more people, hundreds of millions of women who
have basically no freedom in the Muslim world, right, so.

Speaker 4 (05:18):
We should slaughter them instead, which is what's been happening.

Speaker 5 (05:22):
Well, you should.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
You should prosecute a war to the end that doesn't
that does involve slaughter of every.

Speaker 5 (05:29):
War you know.

Speaker 4 (05:31):
I think listen, civilians get killed in wars. I think
everyone knows that.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
Everyone acknowledges that, especially when you hide, especially when you
hide behind them.

Speaker 4 (05:40):
Well, when eighty three percent, according to the IDF's own data,
and this is report. By the way, I consume Israeli
media on this, I don't consume American media on this.
And Israeli media is super honest, way more honest than
our media is. So when the IDF's own data indicates
that eighty three percent of the pe that they've killed

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are civilians.

Speaker 6 (06:02):
Because they hide behind them.

Speaker 4 (06:04):
But Bill, do you understand that by killing so many
civilians they are essentially multiplying extremism?

Speaker 5 (06:12):
I do understand that.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
Do you understand that there's very often in the world
two very bad choices and you own I mean.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
I'm America and I have to vote in presidential elections.

Speaker 6 (06:22):
Yes, I do know that you don't.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
Have the good choice. You have the bad choice and
the even worst choice. Israel has been being attacked by him.
First of all, the entire Arab world rejected them for
seventy five years. They kept trying to make a deal.
They kept saying, no, we want it all. That's what
from the River to the Sea means. It means we
want it all. We don't want to compromise. They've never

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wanted a compromise. Israel gave Gaza back Bill.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
But Bill in two.

Speaker 4 (06:53):
Thousand, say our country was occupied by Mexico. Right, we
have a bunch of people who are occupying our land
and then they.

Speaker 6 (07:00):
Decided and they weren't occupying.

Speaker 4 (07:03):
Let me finish. Let's say Mexico decides, you know what,
we're going to leave, but we're going to control their electricity,
what goes in, what comes back because.

Speaker 5 (07:10):
They were attacking.

Speaker 4 (07:11):
We're going to mow the lawn and just like randomly
decide we're going to slaughter people because they allegedly threw rocks.
They have literally you know all I mean Israel has
nuclear weapons. Bill, They have nuclear and.

Speaker 6 (07:24):
They don't and they have the world.

Speaker 4 (07:26):
Right military superpower backing.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
Then right, well they have nuclear weapons which they don't
use if.

Speaker 6 (07:33):
They don't use it.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
But just pretend if Hamas had a nuclear weapon, how
many seconds would it take before they used it on Israel?

Speaker 4 (07:40):
I have no idea.

Speaker 5 (07:41):
Three three is the answer? Three seconds?

Speaker 4 (07:45):
How do you know that, Bill?

Speaker 6 (07:47):
Come on, because it's in their charge.

Speaker 4 (07:49):
If they use a nuclear weapon against Israel, I'm pretty
sure the very land that has cares about would be
done for.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
Okay, maybe then they would be martyrs and that would
be a good thing, because that's their death cult view
of the world.

Speaker 5 (08:02):
It's a good thing when you die.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
That's why they strap suicide vests sometimes on children. The
fact that you can't see the moral difference between these
two sides always amazes me.

Speaker 5 (08:13):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (08:13):
I actually don't see the moral difference when you have
like Basileel Smotrich and Ben Gavie literally talking about exterminating
the entire population of Gaza.

Speaker 5 (08:22):
Okay, they're not talking about and these.

Speaker 4 (08:24):
These are not they are I mean, the statements are brazen,
they're upfront, they're honest. This is what they actually want
to do.

Speaker 6 (08:30):
I mean.

Speaker 4 (08:31):
Is another example, the West Bank had nothing to do
with what happened on October seventh, but they're annexing that
land anyway. They're reigning terror on innocent people, innocent Palestinians.
They're driving them out of their homes. Like, listen, I
am willing to admit because it's the truth that what
Hamas did on October seventh was a fucking atrocity, killing
innocent people.

Speaker 5 (08:52):
Admit that.

Speaker 4 (08:52):
But you have a difficult time at least acknowledging the
atrocities that have been committed against innocent civilians in Gaza.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
Well, depends on what you call an atrocity. All wars
are going to have a trial.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
Double tap on a hospital.

Speaker 6 (09:05):
All war.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
A double tap on a hospital.

Speaker 6 (09:09):
So when the first respond.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
I don't know exactly what you're talking about. I vaguely
remember the thing.

Speaker 5 (09:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (09:15):
First of all, that's an old terrorist trick.

Speaker 5 (09:18):
That's what they do all the time.

Speaker 4 (09:20):
Okay, but are you at least going to acknowledge that
the IDEF doing that was wrong?

Speaker 3 (09:23):
Yeah, I'm sure they have committed what we would call
war crimes, as every army does in.

Speaker 4 (09:28):
Every war, right, including our own right.

Speaker 6 (09:31):
In every war, including the Civil War.

Speaker 5 (09:35):
I forget who it was and made the good point.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
During the Civil War, a lot of people would say,
especially in the South, that Sherman did not have to
burn Atlanta quite as badly as he did.

Speaker 5 (09:49):
I mean, we were pretty brutal.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
But would you also then just say, well, we don't
know who the good guys were in that war.

Speaker 5 (09:57):
No, I think it was the North.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
I think that they committed that trocity in Atlanta. Yet
that's true, they burned when they shouldn't, and they were
very rough on the South.

Speaker 5 (10:07):
They were still the good guys.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
They were fighting against slavery, as Israelis fighting to survive,
and also, you know they are the front line in
the Western world.

Speaker 4 (10:17):
I totally disagree with you on this entirely. I think
much of the problems we have in the Middle East
is due to the enabling of this expand Look, it's
an expansionist policy. If Israel wasn't trying to continue expanding
in the Middle East, so I don't think they would
be dealing like the enemies that they're real.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
They've never been asked, they have never been trying to expands.

Speaker 4 (10:41):
The West Bank right now, and Lebanon, Southern Lebanon and Syria,
which they succeeded in.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
These are all places that they were attacked from. When
they became a country in nineteen forty seven, they said, okay,
we will accept half a loaf. They had as much
right to that land as anybody. There was a continual
presence there since one thousand and b C. When King
David had a car.

Speaker 4 (11:02):
I don't care about that, okay, but it's relevant, you
can it's relevant.

Speaker 6 (11:06):
It's relevant.

Speaker 4 (11:06):
Why about innocent people because you used to live there.

Speaker 6 (11:11):
Calling them colonizers. They're not colonized there.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
Yet less less convinced that Nick Fuentes kind of had
his ass handed to him in this Piers Morgan interview.
I mean, if something is so utterly ridiculous and disgusting,
even if you challenge them on it, you're still giving

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a very big platform. And Nick Fuentes is good when
it comes to being able to try and justify and
sound like he's got the facts to back it up,
to back up evil basically, So this to me wasn't
wasn't a straightforward slam dunk.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
To be honest.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
If you're watching this and you're vulnerable and you're a
young person, I mean, you guys, tell me what did
you think.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
Have a quick look.

Speaker 7 (11:58):
I think they're bad. I think commits the vast majority
of the mass shooting. I'm sure it's white people, right,
So how do you feel about that?

Speaker 8 (12:09):
I think that white people do more anti social violence.
I think black people participate in more gang violence. I
think that's a difference.

Speaker 7 (12:16):
What's the difference to the victims.

Speaker 8 (12:20):
There's no difference to the victim, but it's a different
kind of crime and it's a different proportion. Also, do
you know what percentage of white people are school shooters?

Speaker 7 (12:28):
I know that the vast majority of mass shootings in
schools in America this century were perpetrated by young white men, and.

Speaker 8 (12:37):
What proportion of proportion?

Speaker 7 (12:40):
I'm curious. I'm curious. I'm curious whether your advice would
be to people who have kids, Should they should? Should they?
Should they avoid? Should they avoid white people at school?
Should people with the kids at school avoid young white
men at school?

Speaker 4 (13:00):
No?

Speaker 5 (13:01):
Okay, do you know.

Speaker 8 (13:02):
What per capita means? Do you know proportionality? They're more?

Speaker 1 (13:08):
I mean, the plan from pits Morgan's perspective would have
been to really expose him. Do you think he achieved that?
Do you think Nick Fouentes leaves this interview looking worse
or being exposed for being full of lies and hate?

Speaker 2 (13:27):
Or do you think the opposite occurred? I'd love to know.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
Ahamas chief has rejected the most important part of Trump's
peace plan after the hostages, that the terrorists must disarm.
Khaled Michelle says that they will not, that they will
keep their weapons. He's saying this on TV is one
of their leaders. So when does the Trump administration go, Okay,

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you're starting to make us look really stupid here. When
did they suddenly go wait a minute, this is not
the deal that we all agreed to. You're not holding
up your end of the bargain. And by the way,
they should not surprise anyone. They are terrorists, They are scumbag,
they are evil.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
This is what they do.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
They don't care about piece deals, they don't care about agreements.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
They're not men of their word.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
They're men who slaughter innocent people in the hope that
they can become martyrs.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
So this is no surprise to anyone.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
But there has got to be a time soon when
the Trump administration goes, wait a minute, okay, it's time
to let Israel disarm humm Us, not just for the
Israelis and the Jews in the region, but for the
innocent children in Gaza that everyone seems to care so
deeply about except when they don't, which is all of

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the time, because all they do they pretend to care
about them, but they runcover for Hamas, the terrorists who
are responsible for all their pain and suffering.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
It makes no sense.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
But we have a leader of Humas coming out publicly
saying we will not disarm. Remember that whole kind of
Remember when people tell you who they are, believe them.
When people tell you what they're not going to do,
believe them, like yeah yah sinmwha. Prior to October seven,
he said what he planned to do, the floods will
come in, break through the fences.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
No one believed him, and look what happened. Believe them.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
It's making everything that people work so hard to achieve
look silly.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
Now the time has come. Enough molly coddling. They are terrorists,
they are evil, they are liars.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
Now let's move on to another evil slash liar, and
that is, of course, the not legitimate leader of Venezuela.
Madua and Congresswoman Maria Salazar said on Fox that essentially
he's got hours, let alone days, So we watch with interest.
This is a very very fast changing, fast moving situation.

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America is applying a lot of pressure for him to
hand back power, leave the country. He's so far standing
up to that. We'll see how long that lasts. There's also,
of course, a lot of pressure on the Department of
Defense and Pete hegsett this Department of War.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
Of course, I've got to get that into my head.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
Are regarding this attempt to boat strike and the legitimacy
of these kinds of attacks. It's a very complex field
and a lot of people will argue from a lot
of different perspectives, but someone who knows this region, knows
this country, knows how these.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
Things work really really well.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
Is a former ambassador, an American the American Ambassadors to Venezuela.
James Story And here's my guest now, Ambassador. Thank you,
first of all, so much for joining us here.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
On the Aeron Mullin Show. Really appreciate it.

Speaker 9 (16:40):
It's a pleasure to be here. Thanks for having me.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
Have you been surprised, first of all with the escalation
involving Venezuela under the Trump administration?

Speaker 5 (16:51):
Certainly?

Speaker 9 (16:51):
You know, under the first Trump administration we talked about
different things, different possibilities, different approaches, and this was never
an approach that was really considered. So the fact that
the president has latched onto this particular mechanism looking at
the cartel of the sons, looking at Maduro through the
prism of being a narcotics trafficker is a bit novel.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
Yeah, is it justified? Do you think?

Speaker 5 (17:19):
Well?

Speaker 9 (17:19):
I mean, there are five or six different reasons why
Maduro should leave power, the first being that the Venezuelan
people voted him out of office last July, but he
refused to leave, refuses to leave. The second is the
largest ever migration in the history of the Western Hemisphere
is happening because of him. So he's forced people into exile,

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upwards of nine million of them.

Speaker 5 (17:43):
Just this week alone.

Speaker 9 (17:45):
One of the members of Mariecodino Machilo's political organization, a
former governor, died in captivity. He was a political prisoner.
So crimes against humanity, human rights abuses in nar cottage, trafficking,
decent abilizing out migration because of his failed policies both
economic and political. Lost an election and he's an arkinis trafficker. Yeah,

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I think it's justified.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
It's a fairly compelling case, isn't it. He thus far
is showing resistance. I was watching Fox News last night
and someone said he had hours, if not days. Can
you put a time frame on when you think this
will come to some kind of end? He will either
leave or or something else will happen, America will go
in where let's talk about potential land strikes.

Speaker 9 (18:31):
Well, you know, I hate to speculate, and as a
former diplomat, we're always really careful to say, well, on
the one hand or the other hand, But what I've
been saying for a few weeks now, is that what
we have in the Caribbean, the ten percent of the
US Navy, all of the different assets in the region,
we can't leave them there forever. In fact, the fourth Fleet,

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the fleet in the US Navy responsible for the Americas,
has no organic capacity whatsoever. They have zero ships. The
fleet has zero ships. So all of these ships are
coming from other fleets, and they've all been and they've
all been planned and programmed out years in advance. So
by having these ships and all of these troops in

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the region for an extended period of time, it would
it would create some chaos within the military, and you
have people who were due to rotate out others rotating in.
So I've been saying for quite some time that probably
along the lines of thirty days, I would imagine something
would happen before the end of the year. I don't
know if the holidays is going to have an impact

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of whether or not hostilities begin sooner rather than later.
But what I think will happen was something more more finite,
a smaller land strike focused on narcotics traffickers. I'd even
say south of Lake Manicaibro and Zulia State, where most
of the drug flights, the air flights originate from that area,

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maybe something against some infrastructure there. Yea, I would imagine
we're talking I don't want to say hours or days,
but I would say within the next couple of weeks,
certainly something something's either going to have to happen or
we're going to have to start moving some of those
resources out of the region.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
What have you made of the way in which America
has taken out these boats with you know, drug dealers drugs,
and there's there's so much evidence of how much damage
they do a lot of people use that to justify
Are you comfortable with the process, and particularly obviously the
one that we in the public haven't seen as yet,
but this two September incident, No.

Speaker 9 (20:28):
I'm not comfortable with it, and I'm not comfortable with
it because I think, not only is it a unilateral
action that underminds our relationships in the region, we lose
valuable intelligence. When I ran counterdarcotics in Columbia then later
ran Canada cottage to the Western Hemisphere, you know, you
want to judicialize these cases, and when you go after

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when you capture people and you're able to interrogate them
for lack of a better word, You juditalize the case,
you learn a lot about the organization itself. A lot
of these people will tell you, well, this is the
person who hired me. Then you go find that person
and you start to you start to bring down and
break down the organization itself, and it leads you to
really bad actors such as former President of Honduras, Juan

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Orlando Orlandez, recently pardoned by the president. And this is
a guy who with his brother was responsible for narcotis
trafficking and money laundering with Chapu out of Mexico. So
you know, it's from my perspective, I think you lose intelligence,
you undermine relationships in the region, You call in a

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question all kinds of international legal norms, and I don't
think it's a very effective way of prosecuting the fight
against narcotics trafficking.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
It's a key point you make, and I haven't heard
that made prior. It's not even that you know from
a moral standpoint, and that may be part of it,
but it's just not as effective. You're saying as if
you were to do it the other way, when you
can get the bigger fish.

Speaker 9 (22:00):
On hundred percent. I mean, you know, we have a
we have a program with the DEA where we can
do genetic testing of the drugs to see where they
came from. We can do the DNA analysis so we
know where the cocaine originated. This is extraordinary type of
technology that we possess. Not to mention the little things
people make mistakes of, the receipt that we call a
popular litter, the receipt that's left behind showing where their

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engines were last maintained, the cell phones and sat phones
that they leave on board, all the little things that
will enable you to put together a case. And remember
the narcotic Straphany organizations, they're not democratic institutions and they
don't run work by committee. They literally can change their
methodology for moving drugs north like that. So you may

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see a few where these drug boats going north, But
that doesn't mean the flow of cocaine has stopped. The
cocaine now is going in container ships, pleasure craft, airplanes,
smaller boats along the coast. It'll move by drug mule
and people pack mule, people literally bringing it across the
border and moving it north. So yeah, I don't think

(23:07):
it's it's overly effective. I think it's not going to
age particularly well, do you know, Maduro?

Speaker 2 (23:14):
What do I know?

Speaker 1 (23:15):
You just went through his rap sheet, which is I mean,
if you are evil, it's very impressive.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
What is he like as a person?

Speaker 1 (23:21):
And how do you think what advice would you give
to the Trump administration if if you were still in
that role that you used to hold about the best
way to move forward?

Speaker 9 (23:30):
I mean, I think he's a clever individual, not classically intelligent,
but he's been his wife, Celia Floordes, the first Combatant
is her nickname. She's very clever, she's very smart. He's
definitely been buoyed by the Cubans.

Speaker 5 (23:49):
We spent it.

Speaker 9 (23:50):
I did meet him one time when I was negotiating
the release of American hostages, and he spent an awful
lot of time at the beginning trying to figure out
who was taller. He was very you know, I'm like
a meet in ninety six. He's a meter ninety five.
I think we spent a lot of time figuring that
one out.

Speaker 10 (24:04):
And you know, I think that I think that he's
an accidental figure, accidental president of well, he's no longer president,
hasn't been for some time, but he was an accidental
leader after child is he does.

Speaker 9 (24:18):
He's not particularly well liked in the military. He never
served in the military's he's an invention of the Cubans,
and I feel as if he's gotten in over his
head and doesn't know how to get back out. And
he's also captured by all of the criminal networks around him.
And part of the criminal networks that've captured him, I
would include the Cubans themselves. I mean, Cuba depends almost

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entirely on free hydri padrocarbons from Venezuela, and Fidel Castro
once famiously said if I had the oil Venezuela had,
I would export the Cuban revolution to the world, and
now he does. I mean, Venezuela is a colony of Cuba,
so you know, I think he's looking for an out.
I think he would like to find a way to
get out. A lot of people don't want to believe

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because of the criminal networks that are existing.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
Last question, Chinese Communist Party is something that I focus
on fairly heavily and did prior to going more international
when I was Australian based and had a domestic audience.
It's a big deal for us clearly geopolitically, it's a
big deal for you guys, I know in terms of
you know, America says it's the number one they benefit
from any chaos in the West. We all know that
they play a significant role in what is going on
with drugs, particularly coming into America. What is the impact

(25:29):
on them at the moment. And if Maduro leaves and
if America gains some control in the region and the
incoming loads of fentanyl slow down essentially into America.

Speaker 9 (25:40):
Well, there's no fetnyl coming that I've been briefed on
from Venezuela. So that's one area. And I would say
that I think that Russians enjoy the chaos of having
Venezuela more in this kind of chaotic situation more than
the Chinese do. The Chinese made a long term generational
bet in getting in bed with a dictatorship that where

(26:04):
the world's largest proven reserves of oil happened to exist, right,
So they made a lot of big commercial plays in
Venezuela and they got burned at every turn. So I
have watched very closely as Maduro has gone hat in
hand seeking money from the Chinese Communist Party repeatedly and

(26:27):
he's been rebuffed every time. They owe the Chinese probably
north of twenty five billion dollars. I don't know the
exact number anymore, but they owe so much money of
the Chinese. The Chinese refused to invest more money in Venezuela.
Even the famous thradar Agua that thraind Agua was a project.
One of these never projects was a project that was
supposed to build a train line in at Agua State.

(26:50):
It never did. The people that were associated with it
didn't get paid and they turned to criminality. And now
you have a transnational criminal organization called train Daragua. It
means the Aragua train that was never built, and it
was money stolen from the Chinese at its moment in time.
So you know, the last time I think Maduro went
to China, he started in Shanghai and made his way

(27:13):
up to Beijing by train. And I would submit to you,
at what point in time does a leader of alleged
leader of one country go to meet with the leader
of another country? But like, for instance, you started Miami
and make your way to Washington.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
DC, says another priority.

Speaker 9 (27:29):
That's exactly what it says exactly.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
Yeah, it's funny the things that China likes to enjoy
in other nations they would never tolerate in their own
and that kind of incompetence. Thank you so so much, ambassador.
I really appreciate your expertise in your time, and thank
you so much for joining us.

Speaker 9 (27:44):
Aaron was a real pleasure. Thanks for having me so.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
Jeffrey Lax has had a front row seat to the
decay of New York City and it's only just getting started.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
Can you imagine?

Speaker 1 (27:55):
The Cuny professor explains how it's about to get worse
under Mom Danny, and he also into Tucker Carlson staying
up on stage in Doha that he plans on buying
a house and guitar, and then of course reiterates it
he's not taking any money from them.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
Well, Jeffrey says, it's worse to be investing in them.
Have a look.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
Jeffrey Lax, thank you so very much for joining us
here on the Eron Molland Show. It's such a privilege
to have you.

Speaker 11 (28:20):
It's so great to be with you, and I'm such
a I'm so in awe, especially as a non Jewish person.
I really want to thank you on behalf of all
Jewish people who've been dealing what we've been dealing with.
Your voice is respected, it is loud, it is morally
clearer eyes or God, bless.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
You, bless you.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
That genuinely means so much, so thank you, and I'm
so sorry that you have to be grateful for voices
like mine. It should just be the norm everywhere, but
unfortunately that is not the position we find ourselves in.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
But bless you, and thank you. It's very much appreciated.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
I want to talk about someone who is a complete
opposite of how I have been in this space. Let's
start and I'll get your story in a little bit,
but I want to start straight on Tucker Carlson, who's
been speaking in Doha and it's.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
Just announced that he's buying a house.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
There, God bless and he says it as though it
is some kind of See I'm not bought by Qatar.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
I'm buying a house there.

Speaker 12 (29:16):
Sorry what okay?

Speaker 5 (29:18):
I mean?

Speaker 11 (29:18):
You know I was all set to go on with
you tonight, and I was excited about it at a
whole list of things I wanted to talk about, and
then I see this on social media pop out and
like you said, Tucker Carlson is announcing, I don't take
money from Qatar. I give money to Qatar. Now that's
the only thing worse that I can imagine than taking
money from Qatar is giving them money.

Speaker 12 (29:41):
And like you said, he's saying.

Speaker 11 (29:42):
It proudly, as if this is he's talking to Prime
Minister Shaikh, as if he's talking to him like he's
the leader of a third word third world democracy.

Speaker 12 (29:51):
He's not.

Speaker 11 (29:52):
He's the leader of a country that is one of
the few left in the entire world that enforces systemic
Sharia law. This is where Tucker he complains about free
speech in the US. Guess what, there's no free speech
and Cutter, you can't speak out against Islam and Cutter,
or you go to jail. You can't speak out against
the government in Qatar, or you go to jail. Matt

(30:14):
at Old. Rape is legal in Qatar. Women have to
travel around with male guardians, it is Gays are arrested.
If they're lucky, they're arrested. It's illegal to be gay
in Qatar. This is where Tucker Carlson sees freedom. This
is where he wants to own a home, and he's

(30:34):
proud of it. Shocking news. I just hope people start
to finally realize this is not someone to follow or
to emulate them.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
I mean also people may be envious of him.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
I would also advise him not to be envious of
Him's position is completely unenviable in my opinion.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
I look at.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
At that, Jeff, and I I think about all of
the lead up to this, and I look at you
mentioned all the kind of pains that this regime inflict
upon their own people. Let's now also look at where
they put their money. So if you're investing in a
place like Qatar as one of, if not the biggest

(31:14):
funders of the Muslim Brotherhood of terrorism globally, they then
of course come in and pretend to be the peacemakers
as well as those who are creating the chaos. Like
where does he think that money will go? Any investment
in a place like Qatar gets spent in some pretty
horrific places.

Speaker 5 (31:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (31:32):
More and more information is coming out every day about
the money Qatar is pumping into Western universities. Certainly we're
hearing a lot of it here in the United States.
We know that maps of the Middle East, for example,
have been traveling around public schools in my city in
New York, and we know that they were paid for
by Qatar. So these maps have a picture where Israel

(31:55):
should be but kind of not there. And except there's
no you know, no Israel marketing. And Katar paid for
those maps. And like you said, this happening world. Why
Katar is the home to the highest level Hamas leaders.
I wonder if Tucker's going to be living next door
to one of them, and I'll bring over a homemade
batch of hummus as Tucker likes to talk about as

(32:19):
Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk dies and he's making jokes. I mean,
he's just a sick guy and this is where he
wants to live.

Speaker 12 (32:27):
So disgusting.

Speaker 11 (32:28):
But yeah, like you said, he's spending money in really
the top terror funding nation in the world that has
no human rights. It's consistently ranked one of the worst
human rights abusers in the entire world.

Speaker 12 (32:42):
That's where he wants to live.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
They don't even hide it. It's there for all to see.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
But of course, the influencers who are currently there, the
American conservative influences, they're not showing that element of it.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
And this is my issue here.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
You know, I look at different countries who host people,
and I know a lot of people don't have the
means to go and visit places. So that's okay when
you are a democratic nation and there is no pressure
onus stipulation that you then have to, you know, put
out positive coverage. That's not what Qatar do. You are
compromised if you are taking any money from Qatar.

Speaker 11 (33:20):
I mean, I don't think she is taking money from Katara.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
And I'm sorry, I've moved on to the influencers who were.

Speaker 11 (33:25):
Over there, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
Who are on funded trips and saying, well, I've got
to make a living. But apparently in those contracts you
actually do have to be positive in your coverage.

Speaker 11 (33:37):
Yeah, we do know what's happening. And you know, I
noticed that you did. You did a great interview with
the opposition leader, who I have to admit I didn't
even know who he was and never heard of him,
Khalid al Hell, that's the one a phenomenal interview that
you did with him. I hope that even if even
one of one fraction of what he says is true

(34:01):
and it's going to happen, that would be a monumental
development in terms of the investigations that are happening. Change
of potentially a change in leadership there and some democratic
principles being enforced.

Speaker 12 (34:12):
So I hope that happens.

Speaker 11 (34:13):
But as it stands now, you're right, Qatar is an
evil regime, one of the worst in the world, and
like you said, they so. One of the things that
Khalid al Hell said with you I believe, if I
heard right, was that they bought even news networks.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
Even they've invested in news Max.

Speaker 11 (34:33):
And I have to say news Max has been very
good on Israels.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
Max was in Israel recently.

Speaker 11 (34:40):
Chris Ruddy, Yes, that's right, and Chris Ruddy is a
friend of mine, so it's it's very hard to understand.
But obviously it's very troubling to have any type of
influencer or leader taking money from Qatar, but again worse
to give them money.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
Yes, that that's exactly right. You're based in New York.
How are you looking forward to the Mom Danny era?
Have you started to see any kind of signs that
it's coming or is it already there?

Speaker 12 (35:06):
Oh, it's already here.

Speaker 11 (35:07):
I mean we've already had you can tell Mom Donni's
New York has already taken over. We've had an incident
already at my university, at City College, which is one
of the flagships of our university, and they had any mom.
They had a dei event, which is such garbage, and
the mom said, noticed that there was a Jewish person

(35:29):
there and said, all.

Speaker 12 (35:30):
Muslims leave the room.

Speaker 11 (35:32):
And there were about one hundred Muslims Muslims there and
they all left. And actually the victims of that were
not the Jews in the room.

Speaker 12 (35:38):
There were very few Jews.

Speaker 11 (35:40):
There were about twenty Christians who were just sitting there
looking at each other, and they were the ones who
were really victimized.

Speaker 4 (35:46):
That.

Speaker 11 (35:46):
People don't realize that the Jews are really the start
to these true agendas. And the agenda here is the
strangest alliance, which is Marxists and Islamists. And you think
to your yourself, what on earth, right, what on earth
do they have in common? Do Islamis want abortion on

(36:07):
demand in the ninth month? Do Marxist I mean, do
Marxist want autocratic theocratic rule?

Speaker 12 (36:15):
I don't understand this, But then you figure it out.

Speaker 11 (36:18):
There's one thing that they both have in common, that
is they want to destroy Western culture. It is so clear,
and when you look in New York City, in particular,
over the past couple of years, you see Marxist slash
Islamist groups who are blocking thoroughways, blocking federal buildings, blocking Amtrak,

(36:38):
blocking JFK International Airport.

Speaker 12 (36:41):
These are not accidents.

Speaker 11 (36:43):
These are them sending a very strong message, which is
we are going to block infrastructure because we don't believe
in the infrastructure in the United States, in any Western country.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
It's that horseshoe theory, isn't it where they kind of
made at the top and go wait a minute.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
I'm not particularly fond of you, and your not particularly
fond of me, but we have a shared goal here.
And you look at you know, mum Danny in a
transgender strip club, standing there as though he is somehow
part of a group that would ever accept that never
but it's a means to the end for all of them.
And this is, yeah, this meeting of the two that

(37:18):
we've seen that is more dangerous almost than any other
that we've seen in recent times. How do you find
I know that you are so passionate about particularly anti
semitism on college campuses, and you've been such a strong
voice in this space, and I thank you so much
for it. Have you seen obviously, Donald Trump has been
very strong in this in this area.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
And I had Alex.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
Witcough actually on the show yesterday and he spoke about,
you know, the strength of Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
In this space as well.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
How do you see it now and do you see
it particularly in places like New York going backwards under
Mum Danny? Do people get a green light to go
hard again?

Speaker 11 (37:54):
It's a very it's going to be I hate to
see an interesting situation. But Aaron, I'm a grand grandson
of four Haloquet survivors. Wow, And I have to tell
you this is the first time I've ever said this
in any interview that I've ever done. I'm actually scared
for the first time of my entire life with what's
with the horseshoe theory that you just talked about, what's

(38:15):
going on with Mamdani and living in New York. I'm
not scared for myself. Long ago I accepted whatever happens
to me happens to me. I'm sure you feel the
same way many times that you just want to say
how you feel, and man, do I love you so
much for that.

Speaker 12 (38:29):
But having kids like you and I both.

Speaker 11 (38:33):
Do you're scared for them, You're scared for future generations,
You're scared for your country. You know, I'm a huge
patriot and I care about my family, and that's what
I'm scared about, because I'm seeing things happen that I've
never seen happen, and I never even imagined what happened
in my lifetime. And one example is that Ma'mdanni this

(38:54):
very soon to be mayor of New York who is
really a Marxist. He's not even a socialist, clearly an
anti Semite. He supports the boycott, divestment and sanctions movement,
an anti Semitic movement that pushes for the boycott of
anybody affiliated with Israel. Now what that means in New
York is you are going to have no doubt, in
my mind, this is a prediction, but I'm sure it's
gonna happen. You're going to have Jewish businesses boycotted in

(39:18):
New York for the first time since nineteen thirties Germany.
That to me is truly scary because that's what started
to let up to Kristelnacht in Germany. The story that
my grandparents told us about when we were little children,
and the stories you hear that you don't think could
possibly ever happen. Again, you're gonna have violence in the

(39:39):
There has already been violence on the streets. There was
a synagogue, a famous synagogue, Park East Synagogue. I'm sure
you heard the story just about a week ago. Again,
this is mom Donnie's New York where these these Islamist Marxists. Again,
that combination why blocked the synagogue, harassed people going into
the synagogue. And Mamdani says, no, think about it except

(40:00):
for basically saying that the synagogue goers were to blame
because they were having an event that had to do
with Israel. I mean goodness, gracious, So I really am
I actually I've never said this before. People need to
speak out more than ever because it really is a
scary time and its existentially scary, and not just for Jews,
for people who all decent people who believe in democracy

(40:23):
and freedom.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
Could not agree with you more and you're you're absolutely right.
I had the Foreign Minister on last week, the Israeli
Foreign Minister talking about what was happening in Ireland with.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
The erasure of street names Jewish street names of.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
The former president, and he made that exact point. He said,
this is what happened in the lead up to the Holocaust.
They started to do these kinds of things. And people
will often say, oh, you're exaggerating or you're you know,
it's not that bad. If you actually look at the
things that led to one of the most terrific things
in history. We're starting to see them not just one offs,

(40:57):
but repeatedly, and that is terrifying. And I always say
I will never be someone who will ever stand by
and watch it happen or let it happen on my watch.
And I feel like people are not awake to how
legitimate the threat is. And you said it earlier. Even
if you say, oh, well, that's really sad for Israel
and the Jews, but I'm not Israelian, I'm not Jewish,
it doesn't affect me.

Speaker 12 (41:16):
It does.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
It affects all of us in Western countries and nations
who care deeply about what you just said, democracy and freedom.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
It doesn't end with the Jews. It starts with them.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
But when they drive a car into a Christmas market
at eight PM and you're there with your kids, they're
not checking if you're Jewish. They want to destroy everything
that we love and believe in.

Speaker 11 (41:37):
One hundred percent right. And it's the poem, the Martin
Molular poem. Now first the came for the Jews. That's
how it goes. And you know, again, this is something
I've never spoken. You bring out stuff out of me, Aaron.
That's amazing. I had never spoken about this before, but
it's really hitting home from you right now. My grandmother

(41:57):
taped a video for Steven Spielberg's All the Way Back
and She's Long Long Past in nineteen ninety six, and
every few years. I promised my mother, I'm going to
try to watch it this year, and I can't.

Speaker 12 (42:12):
I can't get through it.

Speaker 11 (42:13):
I go through ten minutes and I'm just I am
crying and bawling on my keyboard trying to watch it
on my computer screen, and I can't get through more
than ten or fifteen minutes. I have yet to watch it.
It's one of my deepest regrets in life. And what
you said a few minutes ago really hit home for me.
How casual it is.

Speaker 12 (42:32):
The thing. People wouldn't expect this.

Speaker 11 (42:34):
People probably think that I'm hearing about my grandmother watching
friends get murdered in the streets.

Speaker 12 (42:39):
That's not what it is. The thing that makes me ball.

Speaker 11 (42:42):
Is how casual my grandmother was when she was talking
about this and then we have to put on these
yellow stars, and then they said that Jews can't go here,
and she's saying it so casually as this. These are
normal things to happen in a.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
Society breaking that actually even worse in some ways, isn't it. Yes,
it was not like George Clooney just referencing oh Amuhl
was doing some work with the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt,
like it's a funny anecdote about their love and how
impressive she is. It's that casualization, normalization of a regime
that is responsible for the vast majority of death suffering

(43:20):
in the world.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
It's insanity, it really is.

Speaker 11 (43:23):
I mean, and I know Trump is trying really hard
to get the Muslim Brotherhood, at least in America classify
as a terrorist group. I know, for political reasons. It's
got to be done piecemeal. But missus Clooney, I don't
know what. I don't know what you're thinking. I don't know.
I don't know how you do something like that. That's disgusting.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
Yeah, no, it is.

Speaker 1 (43:42):
And you look at that in the point often make
to people, is there is nothing you look at.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
They are banned in Egypt.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
And Egypt is not exactly a country that is sympathetic
to the Jews or the Western civilization. People like Dahlia's
YadA after October seven had to flee for her life
from Egypt because she said, Israel has a right to
defend itself. And this country banned the Muslim Brotherhood. We're
not talking about it an organization that's kind of.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
On the edge.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
No, they are all in to evil. So for someone
in America, a celebrity to think that it's just a
you know, it's a noble thing, or she's so incredibly impressive,
look what she was doing.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
No, but this is how it starts.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
And people who aren't invested like you and I, people
who aren't engaged, people who don't have the capacity to
understand or to learn, hear that and think, oh, they
must not be that bad. Like George Cloinne is talking
about the Mondrew Barrymore's talk show. He's proud of his
wife and you know he's a Hollywood star, Like this
is this is how it happens, and it chips away
bit by bit by bit, and then you end up

(44:41):
with what we had in the nineteen thirties.

Speaker 11 (44:44):
It's you said it really so well, it's really the
false sense of security that we are separated from this.
Somehow this is not coming for us. And sometimes some
of these Middle East countries know a lot better than
us what's really going on. Like you say, Egypt and
the Muslim Brotherhood, they banned them there, and the UAE

(45:04):
has declared Care a terrorist group. Care is a terrorist group,
and we should be declaring them in Western countries as well.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
We think we know better than the countries at the
cold face off it.

Speaker 11 (45:17):
Exactly right, exactly right. And Care we know for a
fact because they were an unindicted co conspirator in the
largest terrifying fdancing case in American history, the Holy Land case.
Care was the FBI to federal courts because Care tried
to get themselves off the list. They were on a
list of unindicted co conspirators. Just because they were not

(45:39):
indicted doesn't mean they didn't do what they did. They
did it, and two federal courts found that there was
enough evidence to show they did it, which is funneling
money directly to Hamas. So if you're funneling money directly
to Hamas and we know Care did that and was
involved in doing that. You are a terrorist group and
the UAE knows better than us, and we should take
we should take a page from Egypt with Muslim brotherhood
and from the UAE and the other Arab countries who

(46:03):
understand and don't want to let these people into their countries.

Speaker 12 (46:06):
Exactly right.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
You look at Indonesia and I lived in Indonesia for
seven years and I speak the language fluently. I love
the country, the world's most populous Muslim nation. They have
an Underwidoto, the former president, all but eradicated Islamic extremism,
the terrorism in their country. That was a huge issue
for them, not just from a tourist perspective in places
like Bali where they had awful incidents, but domestically as well,

(46:28):
and they spent a large part of the last four
years eradicating it because they know that Islamic extremism hurts
Muslims more than it hurts anyone else in the world.
Yet in a Western nation, if you refer to it
as a zomach, oh, you're you're racist, even though it's
a religion.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
You're this, you're that, and you go Muslims don't want
it in their country.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
How is it somehow, you know, bigoted for us not
to want it.

Speaker 11 (46:52):
You know, getting back to taker a little bit. So
this is why he has it's so wrong. He is
on not only the wrong side history, he's the leader
of a movement on the wrong side of history, along
with people like in my country ilhan Omar Ressian Taib.
And you know, he has these podcasts where he has
people coming on George Stephanopolis's sister who's apparently a nun

(47:15):
who's lying about atrocities.

Speaker 12 (47:17):
I'm sorry, I am.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
A girl's girl. But is that the none with the mustache.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
I don't want to say it, but yes, Like he's
essentially giving a massive platform to people who are telling lies.

Speaker 11 (47:28):
Yes, And he's talking about the atrocities Israel has committed
against Christian these purported atrocities. That is the most disgusting
lie on earth. Israel is the only country on Earth
that preserves all the Christian sites. In fact, when the
Drus were being massacred, the Israel is a country that

(47:49):
went in and saved them in Syria. So how can
you say that Israel is not And by the way,
there's a group called Open Doors world Watch, which lists
the worst persecutors are Christians worldwide. They have fifty top countries.
You know, obviously the obvious ones people know about in
Nigeria and Sudan and in Syriel. Like I said, with

(48:10):
the Druze and so many other countries. Israel's not on
that list at all. Israel's not on there. It's such,
it's it is such. I mean, Israel protects Christians, you
have all religious rights, and all the Christian sites are
protected in Israel, and Israel is the only one that
escuator excavates and tries to save those sites as well.
So it's so disgusting what he's doing. And then my

(48:33):
question has always been, even as of two days ago,
what is Tucker's goal? Because I consider him to be
the most dangerous person in America right now because of
the horseship.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
More dangerous in candas you can Rudolf Kndas is being
quite insane at different moments. But Tucker has this ability
to give legitimacated things that are insane, and that is
far more effective.

Speaker 11 (48:57):
One hundred percent, yea, one hundred percent. And so what
he's doing it now. The left is always going to
stay with the left. So no matter what lunatic they
put up for president in twenty twenty eight, the left
will get behind it. Whether it's AOC, whether it's Bernie
at one hundred and seven years old, whoever it is,
he doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
Billy Barry will be really annoyed because he.

Speaker 11 (49:17):
Ran, but the left to vote for that person. It
could be Kamala again, right, I mean, it could be
Joe Biden. He's eligible to run. They will vote for
whoever it is. But the Republicans are critical thinkers for
the most part, unlike the left, and because we believe
in freedom of speech for the most part, and because
we believe in a legitimate argument. There is now a

(49:39):
real rift being caused on one side of the horseshoe.
And that's the scary part. Tucker doesn't have the power
to get rid of all the evangelicals in the country.
He doesn't have the power to get rid of people.
He says he hates Christian Zionists, but a disgusting.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
Worse than the Nazis, aren't they apparently? I mean, come.

Speaker 12 (49:59):
On, unbelievable.

Speaker 11 (50:01):
Yeah, But he does have the power to rift the conservatives.
I think in your country they're called liberals there, but
the Republican Party here, which means we would become a
permanent minority in this country because the Democrats take power again.
They are going to stack our Supreme Court. They're going
to add two states to the Senate here, They're going

(50:22):
to get rid of our filibuster. They will do what
they need to do, and the Republicans will be done,
and that is the end of civilization because they're not
Democrats anymore. They are truly socialists that party. That's where
they are right now.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
No agree entirely, Jeffrey. We've run out of time, but
I could talk to you for hours. You are so brilliant.
Thank you so so much for helping to raise awareness
and also for sharing some personal stories, which I really
really appreciate. And I think that to me, when people
are talking, you want to make people feel, and you
have made people feel without any doubt, and I think

(50:55):
that's the most effective advocacy you can ever do.

Speaker 2 (50:58):
So thank you.

Speaker 1 (50:59):
I know it makes a huge difference, and I can't
wait to get you back on again soon.

Speaker 12 (51:03):
Aaron. You make people feel too, and God, bless you, bless.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
You, thank you so much. Well, I hope you've enjoyed
the show.

Speaker 1 (51:09):
We love putting it together for you like we do
multiple times a week. Thank you so much for making
it this far as well. I know it's a fairly
long time, but it is very valuable listening and very
valuable watching. I'm biased, but clearly you agree because you
are still here fan feedback. Amanda says, and this is
off the back of the Katari opposition later, which well

(51:30):
got a lot of interest. I'm praying for these two
very fine and courageous human beings.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
Thank you very much.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
I'm assuming that is me and him really appreciate it,
Madeline says, thank you.

Speaker 3 (51:40):
Erin.

Speaker 1 (51:40):
None of what he's saying is really surprising, but having
a Katari confirm this is very important, and that's a
key point. You're exactly right in that we know all
of this, But to get someone from the inside to
reassure us, to reiterate, to give their perspective, I think
is very very powerful. Liz says, it all makes sense,
very confronting for the present and future generation, but something

(52:03):
needs to be done now. He spoke with such knowledge
and urgency in his voice, very very true. Well, this
is urgent, isn't it. Alex says, another formidable interview eron
there's so much happening every second in the world, and
unfortunately the average person in the street has no clue.
And yes, that is a big issue. And again it's
not because they're stupid, it's not because they don't care.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
But people are.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
Busy, they are I always make this point, you know,
the cost of living, crisis, work, partners, kids.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
It's exhausting, right, it is exhausting.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
And not everyone is like you and I and really
has the opportunity to get really deep into all of
these issues.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
And that's dangerous.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
People who are not informed are more likely to make
very dangerous decisions as a collective. Hello Mandani, Hello, Hello Jack,
says eron, You're the only one I trust to be
truthful of Thank you.

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That means the world.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
That means the world, sen says, most important interview of
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joining us for the first time, I promise you I
do share very negative feedback as well, and I do
get it fairly often. We just had a really nice
little positive feedback. So it's nice sometimes just to focus
on that, but don't you worry. I don't go through

(53:16):
and sift out the negative. I like to share it
because I find it quite entertaining most of the time.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
Ladies and gentlemen. Thank you so much again for joining
us here. Tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
We've got a really special show. Dave Ruben is my guest,
and he weighs into yes, the attack of Carson's at
candas owens. In fact, when he talks about Candice, it's
really interesting. I just recorded with him for tomorrow, and
he goes into essentially their relationship and why he gave
her a chance in the first place. He is essentially
responsible for her being the kind of public figure she
is today. And it's a fascinating insight from Dave Ruben.

(53:46):
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