November 6, 2025 • 12 mins
Tennis stars Aryna Sabalenka and Nick Kyrgios are set to face off in a highly anticipated “Battle of the Sexes” match in Dubai, reigniting the long-running debate over gender parity in sports. Sabalenka, currently the world’s top-ranked female player, is approaching the match with full intensity, while Kyrgios, ranked 650th, is calling it pure entertainment. Their showdown has sparked discussion over whether men and women can compete evenly in tennis and beyond. From basketball shooting contests to skill-based events in golf, fans and commentators are weighing in on which sports can level the playing field. As crossover moments grow in popularity, could more mixed-gender matchups bring new energy and attention to women’s sports?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
She's actually trying to come in and win, So I
think that that's probably the main reason why she's doing this,
to show like, look, we can really compete against our
male counterparts, and honestly, I think this is a really
even matchup.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Battle of the sexiest does not just exist on the fumble.
It also exists in the sport of tennis. Samaria so
Arena Sabalanka and Nick Krrios are set to take place
in a match against each other in Dubaira, and I'm
just excited for this because I feel like tennis as
somebody who gets his ass whooped regularly by women in tennis,
I feel like tennis is the sport in which sometimes
(00:38):
skill can overcome power and athleticism. And so the battle
of the sexes is an event that has taken place
in the past. Billy Jean King was a woman who
defeated the man in nineteen seventy three, I believe, and
so there is some history for women having success in
the Battle of the sexes. Is anything about this at
all exciting to you?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Of course, obviously we know that Sabolenka is at the
top of her game right now. It's interesting that she
did say I want to do something like this. We
know that Dubai they're probably paying her a pretty penny,
and Nick is saying that this is all about entertainment
for him, where she's actually trying to come in and win.
So I think that that's probably the main reason why
(01:18):
she's doing this, to show like, look, we can really
compete against our male counterparts. And honestly, I think this
is a really even matchup because we know that Nick
hasn't really played much this season. He's been podcasting, he's
been doing speaking engagements, where Sablenka is literally at the
top of her game and she seems to be the
more powerful player. So I want, I'm curious to know,
(01:41):
like your thoughts on if one wins or the other
wins and what does that mean for their career.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Okay, so let's contextualize this. So Arena Sablanka is the
world's number one women's tennis player. Nick Curios is currently
ranked six hundred and fiftieth. Okay, so we got number
one verse number six fifty. But the one equalizer in
tennis is serving, and so when you serve that speed
(02:08):
can dictate how a game is played. So if I'm
and Nick curious. Obviously, you know, has a little more,
has more power on his serve. He could probably hit
up to one hundred and twenty five one hundred and
thirty miles per hour on his serve, whereas Sabalinka might
be around the one to fifteen range. And even that
ten miles per hour difference can make a huge can
create a huge adjustment for somebody trying to return a
(02:28):
service like that is the that's the tough part.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
You know.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Obviously Nick is going to be a little bit more athletic.
He's taller, he's longer, he can get the different balls.
And Sabolenka does like overpower a lot of her opponents,
so she won't quite be able to do that. So
they'll be interested to see if she's able to adjust
her game to maybe point out and work around some
of the deficiencies that Nick has, because again he's six
hundred and fifty, so he's not like the most dominant
male tennis player. As far as what this does for
(02:54):
their careers respectively, I don't think, well, if Nick loses,
it'll further intrenship in the podcasting space. You might arrive
to retirement a little bit sooner. But for Sabolenka. I mean,
she's the best player in the world currently, so I
don't know that this has any you know, real value
for her other than maybe there's a Nike campaign that
(03:14):
rolls out in the aftermath of it.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
So from a marketing and promotion standpoint, maybe.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
But this maybe want to ask, do you think there's
any other sports that men and women can compete in
against each other and there's some level of an even
playing field. And I'm asking, like, in tennis, they have
mixed doubles, right, so you do have a portion of
tennis matches that men and women are on the courts together, right,
Mixed doubles is a legitimate part of the tennis experience.
(03:41):
But is there any other sport, any other thing that
you think men and women can compete at where okay,
we can do this.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
I feel like in basketball we've seen just it has
to be a specific skill competition, right, we saw the
three point competition. We wanted to see Caitlin, you know,
compete against Steph or some body like we did, like
we saw Steph compete against Sabrina.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
But I don't, like, I mean an actual game. No.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Maybe golf is something that made like the playing field
is a little bit more even, but even still, I
feel like, unfortunately the men have a little bit more
of an advantage because they could probably hit the ball harder. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
On a professional level, yeah, you're right that golf is
a good call. But if I don't know, if you
ever been to a golf course and I really played,
like there is a different starting point for men and
women to tea off from, even on golf courses. So
there's a little bit of a discrepancy there. But aside
the professional level, yeah, but on the amateur level, there
are I think a number of sports where women can
give men the business. Like I didn't see some women
(04:44):
at La Fitness. I'll tell you a quick story. I
went on the first date one time with this woman
when I was living in Atlanta, and.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
She told me that this is many many moons ago.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
She told me that she hooped overseas and I was
like yeah, And so our first date, I took her
to run and shoot in Atlanta. Anybody from the A
you know what I'm saying, remember's running shoot And when
I tell you, she busts my ass, like so bad
that there was a five or five game in the court,
right next to us, and they ended up picking her
up and not picking me up. And I was very
(05:14):
embarrassed because I'm not a terrible hooper, but she she
busts my ass.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
She did.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
I would like to know what her name is.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
I can't because she's currently married and well known.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
And you know what I'm saying off off camera?
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Oh yeah, yeah, I let you No, that is interesting,
that's interesting.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
I'm trying to think.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
But I mean, like, obviously, yes, at the amateur level people.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Can compete or whatever. Professionally it's going to be tough.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
I'm like trying to think of like weird sports like
cornhole or bowling, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Like, okay, but bowling.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
I would want to see an Angel reason Draymond Green
rugged rebound competition.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Just like okay, so so how I need the rules,
Like let's break that down, but.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Not competing against each other, but just like just being
able to rebound in traffic and like swing elbows. I
just would want to see like some kind of competition
between Aingeries and Draymond Green.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
There's a parallel there between the two. I can't.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
I mean, obviously Angel is way more beautiful than he is,
but there's something there about their tenacity on the court
that I just feel like there's some sort of diving
for loose balls, something that they just they shared energy,
a likeness in some regards.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
And obviously people like these battle of the sex's moments
like you just brought up the Billy King, you know,
nineteen seventy three that brought in.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Ninety million viewers worldwide.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
We saw how big, like I just brought up the
Steph Curry, the Sabrina and Nescu moment that we saw
during the NBA All Star weekend. So maybe like NBA specifically,
we could see something more I think like the more
battle of the sexist moments like you just brought up
the Aer Reese Draymond Green, that could be something. Or
maybe like a skills competition where we have like two teams.
(07:03):
I think people like that, and then it's bragging rights
and it's just entertaining.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Yeah, the skills challenge I think would be a great
battlefield for men and women to compete on. But then
it's also like even sports that are kind of non traditional.
You're diving, right, You're you're surfing, there are some other
sports that you know you'd be surprised, not even surprised,
but that there's an equal playing field, you know. I
(07:28):
just think that even in some instances like Katie Leadecki,
like you know, the women's all time greatest swimmer, Like,
how would she fare against one of the lower ranked
male swimmers in certain strokes I think, you know, like
for like a breaststroke, you know, or something like that.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
I just that sounded crazy because she's a woman. I
wasn't saying that. I wasn't the breast stroke because she
has breast.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
But just what they're clarified that's interesting is like the
USA women's rugby team, is.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
They're good? Like if they had no they're good?
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Yeah, rugby team. Are you trying to have them competing?
Speaker 1 (08:05):
No, I'm saying if they competed against if they did
like a FL, like if if the rugby team could
do like a flag football against the NFL their their
flag football when they do their Pro Bowl.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Let me real you back in, I'm just trying you think,
come on, like we not.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
I think I just think that NFL athletes are the
most physical athletes by far, And I just I think
anything regarding like physicality, speed, agility, nobody can beat them like.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
That's not I'm just saying I think it would be.
I think it would make for like.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
An interesting competition if you have like the best of
the best women rugby players in the United States that
play that compete for the Olympics, play up against the
Pro Bowl players for the NFL.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
I don't think there's a chance in hell, but you know,
David did be goolive with a sling and a rock,
so it gets possible.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
Yeah. But I do like the idea of.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
More crossover between between men and women in sports, especially
because as we see with the w NBA, there there
is a lot of attention on women's sports right now.
And it doesn't just exist in w NBA. I mean
there's even women's football leagues and flag football leagues that
people are at the very at least watching highlights of.
But I think some of this crossover appeal will help
create more eyeballs on women's sports that maybe that they
(09:34):
deserve that they don't get currently, you know. And so
I think that just like kind of like music, right
so when one artist is a big artist, you put
anartist like Drake on the record with with the Migos
early on in their career, and their births, you know,
an entire new new genre, an entire new lane.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
For the migos.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
And so I think in the world of sports, I
would love to see some more of that crossover appeal
help benefit women's sports because I watch w NBA basketball,
I watch ball. I think we all kind of watch
every now and again, some of us for different reasons.
But yeah, I just think that it will showcase the
level of skill and ability that women possess. And I
think in some instances, you know that that'll that will
(10:12):
bolt extremely well, especially because women support women, especially when
women are going up against men.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Yeah, and historically they're the underdog, and so people like
that storyline as well.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Nascar, Oh yeah, Nascar, we forgot about NASCAR car racing.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Well, they already compete against each other, so that's not
necessarily a yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
We've had one or two.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
I'm just saying like this is there's somewhat of a
even playing field, there, level playing field.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
And then, of course rap music, women are kicking.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
The guy's ass right hip hop is a sport fan, okay,
and the women are kicking ass right now in hip hop.
Most of my favorite rappers right now, a few of
my favorite rappers right now are women, so.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
They make better music. Rhapsody.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Rhapsody though, chie Goja Cat I think are three of
the best artists regardless of gender that exists current.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
I thought you was one to go in another direction what.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
You always want to see, and Nikki nah, I'm not,
that's not my box. I don't know that. I have
to ask you not too much for Johnny and my
rest exactly what it is.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
That's exactly what it is.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
But anyways, I am really excited though about this Battle
of the sexist. It's Christmas Day. That's crazy giving us
something else to watch on Christmas in Dubai.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
But you all let us know in the comments.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Your thoughts on this battle of the sexist, and then
we kind of threw out some wild battle of the
sexes ideas.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
You let us know which one was your favorite in the.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Comments below the show, though man, and then make sure
you tap into our newsletter. The link can be found
in our bio keeping you up to date on all
things in the world of sports. Over here at the Fumble, you,
digny don't have too much chest out or not enough
chest out?
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Should I have thrown one button?
Speaker 3 (11:56):
You're fine? No, you're fine,
She's actually trying to come in and win, So I
think that that's probably the main reason why she's doing this,
to show like, look, we can really compete against our
male counterparts, and honestly, I think this is a really
even matchup.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Battle of the sexiest does not just exist on the fumble.
It also exists in the sport of tennis. Samaria so
Arena Sabalanka and Nick Krrios are set to take place
in a match against each other in Dubaira, and I'm
just excited for this because I feel like tennis as
somebody who gets his ass whooped regularly by women in tennis,
I feel like tennis is the sport in which sometimes
(00:38):
skill can overcome power and athleticism. And so the battle
of the sexes is an event that has taken place
in the past. Billy Jean King was a woman who
defeated the man in nineteen seventy three, I believe, and
so there is some history for women having success in
the Battle of the sexes. Is anything about this at
all exciting to you?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Of course, obviously we know that Sabolenka is at the
top of her game right now. It's interesting that she
did say I want to do something like this. We
know that Dubai they're probably paying her a pretty penny,
and Nick is saying that this is all about entertainment
for him, where she's actually trying to come in and win.
So I think that that's probably the main reason why
(01:18):
she's doing this, to show like, look, we can really
compete against our male counterparts. And honestly, I think this
is a really even matchup because we know that Nick
hasn't really played much this season. He's been podcasting, he's
been doing speaking engagements, where Sablenka is literally at the
top of her game and she seems to be the
more powerful player. So I want, I'm curious to know,
(01:41):
like your thoughts on if one wins or the other
wins and what does that mean for their career.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Okay, so let's contextualize this. So Arena Sablanka is the
world's number one women's tennis player. Nick Curios is currently
ranked six hundred and fiftieth. Okay, so we got number
one verse number six fifty. But the one equalizer in
tennis is serving, and so when you serve that speed
(02:08):
can dictate how a game is played. So if I'm
and Nick curious. Obviously, you know, has a little more,
has more power on his serve. He could probably hit
up to one hundred and twenty five one hundred and
thirty miles per hour on his serve, whereas Sabalinka might
be around the one to fifteen range. And even that
ten miles per hour difference can make a huge can
create a huge adjustment for somebody trying to return a
(02:28):
service like that is the that's the tough part.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
You know.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Obviously Nick is going to be a little bit more athletic.
He's taller, he's longer, he can get the different balls.
And Sabolenka does like overpower a lot of her opponents,
so she won't quite be able to do that. So
they'll be interested to see if she's able to adjust
her game to maybe point out and work around some
of the deficiencies that Nick has, because again he's six
hundred and fifty, so he's not like the most dominant
male tennis player. As far as what this does for
(02:54):
their careers respectively, I don't think, well, if Nick loses,
it'll further intrenship in the podcasting space. You might arrive
to retirement a little bit sooner. But for Sabolenka. I mean,
she's the best player in the world currently, so I
don't know that this has any you know, real value
for her other than maybe there's a Nike campaign that
(03:14):
rolls out in the aftermath of it.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
So from a marketing and promotion standpoint, maybe.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
But this maybe want to ask, do you think there's
any other sports that men and women can compete in
against each other and there's some level of an even
playing field. And I'm asking, like, in tennis, they have
mixed doubles, right, so you do have a portion of
tennis matches that men and women are on the courts together, right,
Mixed doubles is a legitimate part of the tennis experience.
(03:41):
But is there any other sport, any other thing that
you think men and women can compete at where okay,
we can do this.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
I feel like in basketball we've seen just it has
to be a specific skill competition, right, we saw the
three point competition. We wanted to see Caitlin, you know,
compete against Steph or some body like we did, like
we saw Steph compete against Sabrina.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
But I don't, like, I mean an actual game. No.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Maybe golf is something that made like the playing field
is a little bit more even, but even still, I
feel like, unfortunately the men have a little bit more
of an advantage because they could probably hit the ball harder. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
On a professional level, yeah, you're right that golf is
a good call. But if I don't know, if you
ever been to a golf course and I really played,
like there is a different starting point for men and
women to tea off from, even on golf courses. So
there's a little bit of a discrepancy there. But aside
the professional level, yeah, but on the amateur level, there
are I think a number of sports where women can
give men the business. Like I didn't see some women
(04:44):
at La Fitness. I'll tell you a quick story. I
went on the first date one time with this woman
when I was living in Atlanta, and.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
She told me that this is many many moons ago.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
She told me that she hooped overseas and I was
like yeah, And so our first date, I took her
to run and shoot in Atlanta. Anybody from the A
you know what I'm saying, remember's running shoot And when
I tell you, she busts my ass, like so bad
that there was a five or five game in the court,
right next to us, and they ended up picking her
up and not picking me up. And I was very
(05:14):
embarrassed because I'm not a terrible hooper, but she she
busts my ass.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
She did.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
I would like to know what her name is.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
I can't because she's currently married and well known.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
And you know what I'm saying off off camera?
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Oh yeah, yeah, I let you No, that is interesting,
that's interesting.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
I'm trying to think.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
But I mean, like, obviously, yes, at the amateur level people.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Can compete or whatever. Professionally it's going to be tough.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
I'm like trying to think of like weird sports like
cornhole or bowling, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Like, okay, but bowling.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
I would want to see an Angel reason Draymond Green
rugged rebound competition.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Just like okay, so so how I need the rules,
Like let's break that down, but.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Not competing against each other, but just like just being
able to rebound in traffic and like swing elbows. I
just would want to see like some kind of competition
between Aingeries and Draymond Green.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
There's a parallel there between the two. I can't.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
I mean, obviously Angel is way more beautiful than he is,
but there's something there about their tenacity on the court
that I just feel like there's some sort of diving
for loose balls, something that they just they shared energy,
a likeness in some regards.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
And obviously people like these battle of the sex's moments
like you just brought up the Billy King, you know,
nineteen seventy three that brought in.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Ninety million viewers worldwide.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
We saw how big, like I just brought up the
Steph Curry, the Sabrina and Nescu moment that we saw
during the NBA All Star weekend. So maybe like NBA specifically,
we could see something more I think like the more
battle of the sexist moments like you just brought up
the Aer Reese Draymond Green, that could be something. Or
maybe like a skills competition where we have like two teams.
(07:03):
I think people like that, and then it's bragging rights
and it's just entertaining.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Yeah, the skills challenge I think would be a great
battlefield for men and women to compete on. But then
it's also like even sports that are kind of non traditional.
You're diving, right, You're you're surfing, there are some other
sports that you know you'd be surprised, not even surprised,
but that there's an equal playing field, you know. I
(07:28):
just think that even in some instances like Katie Leadecki,
like you know, the women's all time greatest swimmer, Like,
how would she fare against one of the lower ranked
male swimmers in certain strokes I think, you know, like
for like a breaststroke, you know, or something like that.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
I just that sounded crazy because she's a woman. I
wasn't saying that. I wasn't the breast stroke because she
has breast.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
But just what they're clarified that's interesting is like the
USA women's rugby team, is.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
They're good? Like if they had no they're good?
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Yeah, rugby team. Are you trying to have them competing?
Speaker 1 (08:05):
No, I'm saying if they competed against if they did
like a FL, like if if the rugby team could
do like a flag football against the NFL their their
flag football when they do their Pro Bowl.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Let me real you back in, I'm just trying you think,
come on, like we not.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
I think I just think that NFL athletes are the
most physical athletes by far, And I just I think
anything regarding like physicality, speed, agility, nobody can beat them like.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
That's not I'm just saying I think it would be.
I think it would make for like.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
An interesting competition if you have like the best of
the best women rugby players in the United States that
play that compete for the Olympics, play up against the
Pro Bowl players for the NFL.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
I don't think there's a chance in hell, but you know,
David did be goolive with a sling and a rock,
so it gets possible.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
Yeah. But I do like the idea of.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
More crossover between between men and women in sports, especially
because as we see with the w NBA, there there
is a lot of attention on women's sports right now.
And it doesn't just exist in w NBA. I mean
there's even women's football leagues and flag football leagues that
people are at the very at least watching highlights of.
But I think some of this crossover appeal will help
create more eyeballs on women's sports that maybe that they
(09:34):
deserve that they don't get currently, you know. And so
I think that just like kind of like music, right
so when one artist is a big artist, you put
anartist like Drake on the record with with the Migos
early on in their career, and their births, you know,
an entire new new genre, an entire new lane.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
For the migos.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
And so I think in the world of sports, I
would love to see some more of that crossover appeal
help benefit women's sports because I watch w NBA basketball,
I watch ball. I think we all kind of watch
every now and again, some of us for different reasons.
But yeah, I just think that it will showcase the
level of skill and ability that women possess. And I
think in some instances, you know that that'll that will
(10:12):
bolt extremely well, especially because women support women, especially when
women are going up against men.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Yeah, and historically they're the underdog, and so people like
that storyline as well.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Nascar, Oh yeah, Nascar, we forgot about NASCAR car racing.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Well, they already compete against each other, so that's not
necessarily a yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
We've had one or two.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
I'm just saying like this is there's somewhat of a
even playing field, there, level playing field.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
And then, of course rap music, women are kicking.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
The guy's ass right hip hop is a sport fan, okay,
and the women are kicking ass right now in hip hop.
Most of my favorite rappers right now, a few of
my favorite rappers right now are women, so.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
They make better music. Rhapsody.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Rhapsody though, chie Goja Cat I think are three of
the best artists regardless of gender that exists current.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
I thought you was one to go in another direction what.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
You always want to see, and Nikki nah, I'm not,
that's not my box. I don't know that. I have
to ask you not too much for Johnny and my
rest exactly what it is.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
That's exactly what it is.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
But anyways, I am really excited though about this Battle
of the sexist. It's Christmas Day. That's crazy giving us
something else to watch on Christmas in Dubai.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
But you all let us know in the comments.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Your thoughts on this battle of the sexist, and then
we kind of threw out some wild battle of the
sexes ideas.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
You let us know which one was your favorite in the.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Comments below the show, though man, and then make sure
you tap into our newsletter. The link can be found
in our bio keeping you up to date on all
things in the world of sports. Over here at the Fumble, you,
digny don't have too much chest out or not enough
chest out?
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Should I have thrown one button?
Speaker 3 (11:56):
You're fine? No, you're fine,
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