December 15, 2025 • 12 mins
Vanderbilt QB Diego Pavia went from Heisman hopeful to social media controversy after his post-ceremony behavior drew major backlash. Despite a historic 10-win season and 189 first-place votes, Pavia lost the Heisman to Indiana’s Fernando Mendoza. In response, Pavia was seen in a viral nightclub video flipping off the voters and shouting “F Indiana.” Critics called the moment classless and damaging to Vanderbilt’s reputation, while others defended Pavia’s raw honesty and underdog fire. At just 5’8” and unlikely to go pro, supporters argue this was his one shot to speak freely. Was his reaction out of line—or a rare glimpse into the pressure elite athletes face?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And it's a pr nightmare. I talk about this all
the time because you didn't have to do. If you
do something and you have to come back and apologize.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
That's life. That's life, you know. So what you just
don't want to go, You don't want to apologize. In life,
it happens. People do things. He's twenty three years old.
This is the pinnacle of his athletics.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Twenty five.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Rodney, I think it's time for us to have a
real conversation about Vanderbilt quarterback Diego Pavia.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Right, we've seen him the.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Last two seasons do things that we've never seen a
quarterback do at Vanderbilt University. He led them to their
first ten win season. He was a Heisman finalist. He
received one hundred and eighty nine first place votes, but
ultimately came up short in the Heisman voting to Fernando
Mendoza out of Indiana, which didn't come to as a
(00:50):
surprise to anybody. But after the Heisman ceremony, we saw
him post f.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
All the voters, right.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
We saw him in the club shooting words with the
f Indiana sign, you know, with the bottle girls, and
it seems as though he's gone from this underdog that
everybody was kind of rooting for to somebody that nobody's
rooting for now, Like we're kind of like done with him,
(01:18):
What do you make we are?
Speaker 3 (01:20):
I think a lot of people are, Uh, he's a
laughingstock now.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
People are making jokes about him.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
But let's just talk about it.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Let's just talk about your thoughts on Diego Pavia And
do you feel like if this was a quarterback that
was a little darker.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
In Hue, Well, let's not. Let's let's not.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Let's let's get there. That's not a let's ask.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
So I don't have a problem with any of these
things that Diego has been doing. I think that we
are finally getting the witness an athlete, not finally because
it's happened before, but he's just an athlete who wants
people to hear his most in their dialogue and in
their thoughts. Like everybody who wins the Heisman, who feels
like they really should have on it, who really feels
like they were in contention to actually win it, has
(02:03):
these thoughts. He's just somebody who's living them out loud.
And the fact of the matter is, like Diego is
really like five eight and He is a kid from
New Mexico who did not have a single Division one
scholarship coming out of high school. You had to go
to Juco route, had to go to New Mexico and
then transferred to Vanderbilt. So his plight has been very
different than a lot of other elite prospects who have
(02:25):
been on that Heisman stage, and so he probably has
had to have this kind of mentality in order to
even maximize the potential that exists in his little, tiny frame.
So I really don't have any qualms any issues with
him just being truthful about his thoughts. If we were
to hear Michael Jordans say this, right, Michael Jordan has
created enemies in his head, and so has Shaquille O'Neil.
We hear those stories about them, but their legacy is cemented,
(02:47):
and so when we hear the stories from them, it's
like it's okay. But Diego really has the same kind
of mentality. He just hasn't had the same level of
success as them. So the idea that he would say
these things out loud just doesn't seen PC for some people.
But I'm all for athletes being this honest about how
they feel. He's a competitor.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
I think there's a difference between you reflecting on something
years down the line and you say, you know what,
Like when I was at the Heisman and I came
in second, I really wanted to say, if the voters
f Indiana, That's how I felt at the time. I
think there's a difference between that and actually doing it
in real time. Right.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
You just mentioned that Diego Pavia is only.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Five to eight, right, so he does not have the
intangibles of what we would consider an elite quarterbacks build. Right,
So he's already coming into this year's draft as an
underdog just in general because he's so small. So now
we're not even talking about in those interviews, we're not
even talking about all of the things that you can
(03:48):
do on the field. We're talking about off the field stuff.
And it's a pr nightmare. And I talk about this
all the time because you didn't have to do If
you do something and you have to come back and apologize.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
That's life. That's life, you know, So what you just
don't want to go You don't want to apologize in life,
it happens. People do things. He's twenty three years old.
This is the pinnacle of his athletics.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
He's twenty five.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
This is the pinnacle of his athletic career. He will
never have a moment to live in anything of this
magniticary I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
And instead of.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Him just being in the moment and having this moment
with his family and friends who have been there with
him this entire time, you're sitting here disrespecting other people.
It was very classless. It was very distasteful, Rodney.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
It was bad.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
It was bad, and I thought that it left a
stain on Vanderbilt. So let me you know, I know
some people in Nashville. So my first one is from
my guy Gentry that's in Nashville, and he says, it's
truly unfortunate that a spectacular Heisman weekend for Vanderbilt will
be forever associated with a classless, unnecessary social media post
that did nothing but validate reasons people had already had
(04:56):
to dislike Diego Pavia.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
And that's what I'm saying. It's stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
It's like, where's Diegel going next year? He has to
go be a salesman? Like when we talk about.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
But why is it?
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Why is it so bad that people are expecting you
to have class in these moments, like we need to
bring back shame, and that's what we're doing.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Like he like, this is not a moment to be
shameful about to be upset about the fact that you
didn't win a Heisman trophy because you feel like.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Why are you upset? That's what we're trying to say.
There was no reason for him to get mad in
this way, but to go and say F the voters
and then to say F Indiana, like it was just
completely out of line.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Right, bro.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Vanderbilt and Indiana have very similar scholastic profiles. So even
just on a on a football level, if he was
about to play Indiana this this weekend and he came
out and said F Indiana, you wouldn't have a problem
with that. So like the fact that he's like, yo,
that kid took my trophy.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
F him.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
That's just how people. That's human. That's how humans feel.
I don't know why we're pretending that we don't have
emotions of jealousy and anger and fresh like the idea
that we have to suppress our truest thoughts and feelings
all the time. I think it's just counter culture to
what's healthiest for people. Again, this is a kid who
had twenty five years old, will never probably see a
football field ever again. And so in lou of being
(06:14):
able to like be in that moment and look into
the next year, two, five, ten years from now and
be like, damn, this is the pinnacle of my athletic career.
I'll never have a moment like this ever again in life. Like,
I'm frustrated by that. And yeah, he verbalized it, he
let it out, and then he apologized. Cool, that's life.
But acting like you got to go through life never
saying or doing anything worth apologizing for. It's just not
(06:36):
human like it. Really, I'm kind of bewildered by the
idea that you don't understand why he's frustrated or upset
that he didn't win no highest supwoard in all college football.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
I did not say that though.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
That's the thing. I never said that he had no
reason to be upset. What I said was that that was.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
A pr nightmare and that he shouldn't have done that.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
You can have for conversations for himself, for the university,
for all of the like his family.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
That university. Man, what is Vanderbilt? You know, what does
Vanderbilt do for him after he's gone. What is I'm
just saying, like he didn't remb present the university. Well,
these coaches pick up and go at any given moment,
we have school shootings going on. This is not that
big of a deal in the grand scheme of things,
like who cares about Vanderbilt University that could have cut
him a paycheck next year when he's gone, he's disposable
(07:20):
to them. So next year they have somebody else behind
center planning quarterback, and Diego will be somebody that they remembered,
and that's it. History is not going to look back
on him on these two years that he had at
Vanderbilt and be like, man, I really wish we had
somebody else that was a lot more honest or a
little less honest about how he felt inside because he
lost the heisman. Like nobody cares. They got ten wins
in history that has never happened before at Vanderbilt. That's
(07:43):
how and what he will be remembered for, not these
words of frustration and anger.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Okay, Well, hopefully Vanderbilt has another player that gets to
the highstman ceremony.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
And goes crazy and goes even crazier.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
No smd B a n y.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
This thing is necessarily It's so weird to me about
when you have these takes.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
It is because you grew up.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
You grew up with a mother who who was famous, right, like,
who was talented. You're talented, You've been in the spotlight,
and you know how important public.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Relations are to your career. You know that. So that's
what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
You would never get here and show your ass like that.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Cause, yes, and to be frank, I wish I had this.
I'm just old and so I wasn't indoxmated by the
idea that you could say and do whatever you wanted
to do. This kid is a byproduct of where we
are as a society. But if I had a little
more effort in my blood, I'd be a lot further along.
And Yeah, I wish I had that level of freedom.
(08:48):
I'm marveled at that. I'm marveled at.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
It for real.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Okay, let's get into the real conversation, because this is crazy.
I saw that Skip Bayless tweeted, you know, basically, congratulations
to Fernando. However, Diego Pavia deserved the award for his
performance on the field, even if his swagger.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
And edge rubbed some voters the wrong way.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
So I thought it was very interesting that for Diego
it was considered swagger an edge, right, but for Shador
last year it was arrogance and he does not have class.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
That is weird. That is that's really weird.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Also, Jamel Hill, who I love, she said that Rex
Ryan and some other folks in the media who played
behavior police would have done a two hour primetime special
on this if it was Shador, saying, if the Heisman.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Voters, I'm gonna be honest here, I'm usually for the
conversations around the unfair treatment of black people, black athletes,
and you know, comparing things. But the only reason Rex
Ryan or anybody else would have had an additional conversation
about Shador Sanders is because Shador Sanders was expected to
be a first round draft pick and he was expected
(10:01):
to be able to lead an NFL franchise. So his
behavior is a lot more under the microscope than somebody
who will go on and coach high school football more
than likely. Right, we don't have to break down Diego
Pavia's character to see how it translates on a professional
level while he's making millions of dollars, So Yeah, when
you're in when you're in line to do the things
(10:23):
that Shador Sanders is in line to do, people are
going to be a lot more critical of your personality,
your characteristics, and attributes to figure out if and how
it makes sense at the next level. I think people
were hard on Shador. Yes I'm not I'm not disagreeing
with that, But what I'm saying is we can't compare
Diego to Shador because one one is going to continue
(10:43):
to play football and the other is going to go
sell cars.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Like what he thinks that he's going to.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
We're not talking about. We're talking about what's actually gonna happen.
He's not s door. Sanders was expected to be no
worse than the second drafted quarterback in last year's draft.
Now obviously that did not happen. But like Diego is
not expected to be in the NFL, So we don't
have to give him but so much attention because we
don't have to break down his character because he's not
in consideration to go on to the next chapter of life.
(11:12):
It's like if you're dating someone right and you start
to see behaviors that you try to correct, but then
you realize Ultimately, this is not my long term partner anyway,
So like, I don't really got to spend too much
energy on you. When they start doing dumb you're no
longer in the relationship. I don't have to address the past.
I ain't got to focus on what you're doing over there,
(11:33):
because you're not coming over here with me next anyway.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Who cares. Yeah, that sounds good, But at the end
of the day, he shouldn't have done that. He knows
now that he shouldn't have done that. It doesn't look good.
Like I mentioned earlier, that's going to be the focus.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
You know who you know where being outspoken gets you
in twenty twenty five, it gets you potentially to be
the president of the United States. Saying how you actually
feel without worrying about muzzling yourself gets you far in life. Anyway.
We are obviously going to disagree on this, y'all. Let
us know your thoughts on Diego Pavia's statements saying f
the voters and all the other things that people seem
to be up in arms about. You feel like he
(12:08):
was in the wrong or is it nice to see
a young man live his truth?
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Please don't listen to Rodney.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Please be PC or whatever that means at a politically
correct Is that what that means?
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Okay? Yeah, please be that
And it's a pr nightmare. I talk about this all
the time because you didn't have to do. If you
do something and you have to come back and apologize.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
That's life. That's life, you know. So what you just
don't want to go, You don't want to apologize. In life,
it happens. People do things. He's twenty three years old.
This is the pinnacle of his athletics.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Twenty five.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Rodney, I think it's time for us to have a
real conversation about Vanderbilt quarterback Diego Pavia.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Right, we've seen him the.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Last two seasons do things that we've never seen a
quarterback do at Vanderbilt University. He led them to their
first ten win season. He was a Heisman finalist. He
received one hundred and eighty nine first place votes, but
ultimately came up short in the Heisman voting to Fernando
Mendoza out of Indiana, which didn't come to as a
(00:50):
surprise to anybody. But after the Heisman ceremony, we saw
him post f.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
All the voters, right.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
We saw him in the club shooting words with the
f Indiana sign, you know, with the bottle girls, and
it seems as though he's gone from this underdog that
everybody was kind of rooting for to somebody that nobody's
rooting for now, Like we're kind of like done with him,
(01:18):
What do you make we are?
Speaker 3 (01:20):
I think a lot of people are, Uh, he's a
laughingstock now.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
People are making jokes about him.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
But let's just talk about it.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Let's just talk about your thoughts on Diego Pavia And
do you feel like if this was a quarterback that
was a little darker.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
In Hue, Well, let's not. Let's let's not.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Let's let's get there. That's not a let's ask.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
So I don't have a problem with any of these
things that Diego has been doing. I think that we
are finally getting the witness an athlete, not finally because
it's happened before, but he's just an athlete who wants
people to hear his most in their dialogue and in
their thoughts. Like everybody who wins the Heisman, who feels
like they really should have on it, who really feels
like they were in contention to actually win it, has
(02:03):
these thoughts. He's just somebody who's living them out loud.
And the fact of the matter is, like Diego is
really like five eight and He is a kid from
New Mexico who did not have a single Division one
scholarship coming out of high school. You had to go
to Juco route, had to go to New Mexico and
then transferred to Vanderbilt. So his plight has been very
different than a lot of other elite prospects who have
(02:25):
been on that Heisman stage, and so he probably has
had to have this kind of mentality in order to
even maximize the potential that exists in his little, tiny frame.
So I really don't have any qualms any issues with
him just being truthful about his thoughts. If we were
to hear Michael Jordans say this, right, Michael Jordan has
created enemies in his head, and so has Shaquille O'Neil.
We hear those stories about them, but their legacy is cemented,
(02:47):
and so when we hear the stories from them, it's
like it's okay. But Diego really has the same kind
of mentality. He just hasn't had the same level of
success as them. So the idea that he would say
these things out loud just doesn't seen PC for some people.
But I'm all for athletes being this honest about how
they feel. He's a competitor.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
I think there's a difference between you reflecting on something
years down the line and you say, you know what,
Like when I was at the Heisman and I came
in second, I really wanted to say, if the voters
f Indiana, That's how I felt at the time. I
think there's a difference between that and actually doing it
in real time. Right.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
You just mentioned that Diego Pavia is only.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Five to eight, right, so he does not have the
intangibles of what we would consider an elite quarterbacks build. Right,
So he's already coming into this year's draft as an
underdog just in general because he's so small. So now
we're not even talking about in those interviews, we're not
even talking about all of the things that you can
(03:48):
do on the field. We're talking about off the field stuff.
And it's a pr nightmare. And I talk about this
all the time because you didn't have to do If
you do something and you have to come back and apologize.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
That's life. That's life, you know, So what you just
don't want to go You don't want to apologize in life,
it happens. People do things. He's twenty three years old.
This is the pinnacle of his athletics.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
He's twenty five.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
This is the pinnacle of his athletic career. He will
never have a moment to live in anything of this
magniticary I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
And instead of.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Him just being in the moment and having this moment
with his family and friends who have been there with
him this entire time, you're sitting here disrespecting other people.
It was very classless. It was very distasteful, Rodney.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
It was bad.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
It was bad, and I thought that it left a
stain on Vanderbilt. So let me you know, I know
some people in Nashville. So my first one is from
my guy Gentry that's in Nashville, and he says, it's
truly unfortunate that a spectacular Heisman weekend for Vanderbilt will
be forever associated with a classless, unnecessary social media post
that did nothing but validate reasons people had already had
(04:56):
to dislike Diego Pavia.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
And that's what I'm saying. It's stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
It's like, where's Diegel going next year? He has to
go be a salesman? Like when we talk about.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
But why is it?
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Why is it so bad that people are expecting you
to have class in these moments, like we need to
bring back shame, and that's what we're doing.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Like he like, this is not a moment to be
shameful about to be upset about the fact that you
didn't win a Heisman trophy because you feel like.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Why are you upset? That's what we're trying to say.
There was no reason for him to get mad in
this way, but to go and say F the voters
and then to say F Indiana, like it was just
completely out of line.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Right, bro.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Vanderbilt and Indiana have very similar scholastic profiles. So even
just on a on a football level, if he was
about to play Indiana this this weekend and he came
out and said F Indiana, you wouldn't have a problem
with that. So like the fact that he's like, yo,
that kid took my trophy.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
F him.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
That's just how people. That's human. That's how humans feel.
I don't know why we're pretending that we don't have
emotions of jealousy and anger and fresh like the idea
that we have to suppress our truest thoughts and feelings
all the time. I think it's just counter culture to
what's healthiest for people. Again, this is a kid who
had twenty five years old, will never probably see a
football field ever again. And so in lou of being
(06:14):
able to like be in that moment and look into
the next year, two, five, ten years from now and
be like, damn, this is the pinnacle of my athletic career.
I'll never have a moment like this ever again in life. Like,
I'm frustrated by that. And yeah, he verbalized it, he
let it out, and then he apologized. Cool, that's life.
But acting like you got to go through life never
saying or doing anything worth apologizing for. It's just not
(06:36):
human like it. Really, I'm kind of bewildered by the
idea that you don't understand why he's frustrated or upset
that he didn't win no highest supwoard in all college football.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
I did not say that though.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
That's the thing. I never said that he had no
reason to be upset. What I said was that that was.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
A pr nightmare and that he shouldn't have done that.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
You can have for conversations for himself, for the university,
for all of the like his family.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
That university. Man, what is Vanderbilt? You know, what does
Vanderbilt do for him after he's gone. What is I'm
just saying, like he didn't remb present the university. Well,
these coaches pick up and go at any given moment,
we have school shootings going on. This is not that
big of a deal in the grand scheme of things,
like who cares about Vanderbilt University that could have cut
him a paycheck next year when he's gone, he's disposable
(07:20):
to them. So next year they have somebody else behind
center planning quarterback, and Diego will be somebody that they remembered,
and that's it. History is not going to look back
on him on these two years that he had at
Vanderbilt and be like, man, I really wish we had
somebody else that was a lot more honest or a
little less honest about how he felt inside because he
lost the heisman. Like nobody cares. They got ten wins
in history that has never happened before at Vanderbilt. That's
(07:43):
how and what he will be remembered for, not these
words of frustration and anger.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Okay, Well, hopefully Vanderbilt has another player that gets to
the highstman ceremony.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
And goes crazy and goes even crazier.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
No smd B a n y.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
This thing is necessarily It's so weird to me about
when you have these takes.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
It is because you grew up.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
You grew up with a mother who who was famous, right, like,
who was talented. You're talented, You've been in the spotlight,
and you know how important public.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Relations are to your career. You know that. So that's
what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
You would never get here and show your ass like that.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Cause, yes, and to be frank, I wish I had this.
I'm just old and so I wasn't indoxmated by the
idea that you could say and do whatever you wanted
to do. This kid is a byproduct of where we
are as a society. But if I had a little
more effort in my blood, I'd be a lot further along.
And Yeah, I wish I had that level of freedom.
(08:48):
I'm marveled at that. I'm marveled at.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
It for real.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Okay, let's get into the real conversation, because this is crazy.
I saw that Skip Bayless tweeted, you know, basically, congratulations
to Fernando. However, Diego Pavia deserved the award for his
performance on the field, even if his swagger.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
And edge rubbed some voters the wrong way.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
So I thought it was very interesting that for Diego
it was considered swagger an edge, right, but for Shador
last year it was arrogance and he does not have class.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
That is weird. That is that's really weird.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Also, Jamel Hill, who I love, she said that Rex
Ryan and some other folks in the media who played
behavior police would have done a two hour primetime special
on this if it was Shador, saying, if the Heisman.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Voters, I'm gonna be honest here, I'm usually for the
conversations around the unfair treatment of black people, black athletes,
and you know, comparing things. But the only reason Rex
Ryan or anybody else would have had an additional conversation
about Shador Sanders is because Shador Sanders was expected to
be a first round draft pick and he was expected
(10:01):
to be able to lead an NFL franchise. So his
behavior is a lot more under the microscope than somebody
who will go on and coach high school football more
than likely. Right, we don't have to break down Diego
Pavia's character to see how it translates on a professional
level while he's making millions of dollars, So Yeah, when
you're in when you're in line to do the things
(10:23):
that Shador Sanders is in line to do, people are
going to be a lot more critical of your personality,
your characteristics, and attributes to figure out if and how
it makes sense at the next level. I think people
were hard on Shador. Yes I'm not I'm not disagreeing
with that, But what I'm saying is we can't compare
Diego to Shador because one one is going to continue
(10:43):
to play football and the other is going to go
sell cars.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Like what he thinks that he's going to.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
We're not talking about. We're talking about what's actually gonna happen.
He's not s door. Sanders was expected to be no
worse than the second drafted quarterback in last year's draft.
Now obviously that did not happen. But like Diego is
not expected to be in the NFL, So we don't
have to give him but so much attention because we
don't have to break down his character because he's not
in consideration to go on to the next chapter of life.
(11:12):
It's like if you're dating someone right and you start
to see behaviors that you try to correct, but then
you realize Ultimately, this is not my long term partner anyway,
So like, I don't really got to spend too much
energy on you. When they start doing dumb you're no
longer in the relationship. I don't have to address the past.
I ain't got to focus on what you're doing over there,
(11:33):
because you're not coming over here with me next anyway.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Who cares. Yeah, that sounds good, But at the end
of the day, he shouldn't have done that. He knows
now that he shouldn't have done that. It doesn't look good.
Like I mentioned earlier, that's going to be the focus.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
You know who you know where being outspoken gets you
in twenty twenty five, it gets you potentially to be
the president of the United States. Saying how you actually
feel without worrying about muzzling yourself gets you far in life. Anyway.
We are obviously going to disagree on this, y'all. Let
us know your thoughts on Diego Pavia's statements saying f
the voters and all the other things that people seem
to be up in arms about. You feel like he
(12:08):
was in the wrong or is it nice to see
a young man live his truth?
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Please don't listen to Rodney.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Please be PC or whatever that means at a politically
correct Is that what that means?
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Okay? Yeah, please be that
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