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December 8, 2025 14 mins

Notre Dame has been left out of the 2025 College Football Playoff, and fans are divided. Despite finishing the season with a respectable record, the Fighting Irish were passed over after losses to Miami and Texas A&M—two teams that did make the cut. In response, Notre Dame announced they are opting out of all non-CFP bowl games this year, sparking debate about their independence, strength of schedule, and relevance in the modern era. Critics say Notre Dame is still coasting on name-brand nostalgia and needs to either join a conference or beef up its schedule if it wants to be taken seriously again.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm glad that Notre Dame didn't make it into the
College Football Playoffs.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
One.

Speaker 1 (00:03):
I'm tired of pretending like this is the eighties and
Notre Dame and that Notre Dame football is some elite,
illustrious program. This program, to me, has skirted by or
name recognition alone for years. The College Football Playoffs are
locked and loaded. All twelve teams have been formally announced,

(00:24):
with one glaring omission that personally I'm happy about. Notre
Dame was left out of the College Football Playoffs, and
in response to that, they said they do not want
to play any bowl game.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Outside of the CFP.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
They issued a statement saying, as a team, we've decided
to withdraw our name from consideration for a bowl game
following the twenty twenty five season. We appreciate all the
support from our families and fans, and we're hoping to
bring the twelfth national title to South Bend in twenty
twenty six. Samaria, you are the football expert, so I
defer to you in this subject matter. How did you
feel about Notre dame snub and their statement?

Speaker 3 (00:58):
You know, I can see why people were upset about it.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
However, the bigger picture is that Notre Dame has got
to get in a conference.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
I know that they like being.

Speaker 4 (01:08):
Independent and that's great, but I'm fare, yes, the schedule
was not good enough, and I think that y'all need
to really look into that moving forward. We know that
they had a loss or two losses this season to
Miami and then to Texting them.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
Both of those teams made it.

Speaker 4 (01:27):
I'm just not I don't know. I don't know if
they thought that they should have jumped in and then
Alabama should have came out. I'm not really sure. But
at the end of the day, they got to get
in a conference or they're going to have to make
their schedules so strong that nobody is denying them entry into.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
The college football playoffs.

Speaker 4 (01:44):
I do want to get into people deciding not to
do bowl games.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
We can get into that later on in the show.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
Yeah, okay, so I'm glad that Notre Dame didn't make
it into the college football playoffs.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
One.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
I'm tired of pretending like this is the eighties and
that Notre Dame and that Notre Dame football is elite,
illustrious program. I'm not somebody who harps on the past.
This program, to me has skirted by on name recognition
alone for years. Let me tell you about their schedule
for twenty twenty six, because in their statement they issued,
they said they want to make the boat the TFP

(02:18):
next year. So next year's schedule looks like this one.
They only play three road games, but they play Wisconsin, Rice,
Michigan State, Purdue, UNC, Navy, Miami, Boston College, SMU, Syracuse, Stanford,
and USC.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
Okay, that's not gonna cut it.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
That's not gonna get it done, especially because I anticipate
them having two, maybe even three losses next season as well.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
I do not like Notre Dame.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
Like they are the like how I feel about Duke
basketball has been replaced with how I feel about Notre
Dame football.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
I don't like the culture. I don't like their uniforms.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
I don't like the fact that I found out that
their coach has a fake hairline that is not his,
given by God. I found former pictures. It was not
that good college, and so that means he had the remix.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Now.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
Granted, I do believe in the man's right to choose
a different esthetic for himself, and next year I may
come back to the fumble with a new hairline. So
I don't want y'all judging me, but until I do that,
I'm criticizing him.

Speaker 4 (03:12):
His is just a lot more obvious, Like you really
can't expect us to think that that was the hairline
that you were given.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
I thought it was too dark, it's too straight.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
No, it's I thought it was. It's a great job.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
It goes, you know, it fades out.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
It's just shout out to him though, I'm.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
Talking about the darkness, uh fade.

Speaker 4 (03:33):
So it starts very dark and then it fades out
into like his head, like it just I never thought
it was.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
Yeah, I thought it was like he you know, I
thought he was a danger to the community, because women
with Jalen Brown's hairline is real don't do that.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
But I was. I thought he was a danger to
the community.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
I saw so many women falling over him, and come
to find out he's GMO.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
Anyway back to Notre Dame Football.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
Glad to see them on the outside of the cos
fotball playoffs, and glad that that gonna be a part
of any bowl game. I'm tired of their fake eliticism.
Please let's go to everybody else who made the collgootball playoffs.

Speaker 4 (04:08):
Yes, okay, So Indiana is the number one overall seed.
I did not expect Indiana to come out and be
as good as they.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
Are this year.

Speaker 4 (04:20):
I'm like, where did y'all come from? That's the craziest
thing to me. They beat Ohio State. I'm just shook it.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
Shout out to Mark Cuban, Yo, Mark is the Mark
Cuban effect right sold the Dallas Mavericks Washington trade away
Luka doncic. But Mark Cuban is an Indiana University alumni
and put a lot of money into that program from
what I hear this past year, and so we are
now seeing the effects of having a billionaire as a
part of your alumni base.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
Shout out and yeah.

Speaker 4 (04:49):
And at number two we have Ohio State, who already
showed everybody what happens when you put money in nil,
what happens when you can buy a team.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
Essentially you can win national championship. And I don't know
if Ohio.

Speaker 4 (05:01):
State didn't think that anybody else was going to follow
that that that blueprint blueprint, but they did. So Ohio
State is at number two, Georgia is at number three,
and then Texas Tech is at number four.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
All of them have buys. That SEC championship game. Georgia
looks great.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
M H.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
Georgia was really good. Yeah, they do.

Speaker 4 (05:22):
But I think that usually in these types of games,
Alabama gives them a run for their money, a little.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
Bit more than what we saw. They almost were shut.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
Out this this thing the Alabama team of ten years
ago though, So I don't I don't know.

Speaker 4 (05:34):
You're right, Okay, people were upset. We just talked about
that that Alabama was able to get in.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
But let's keep going.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Three losses. When we got addressed that real quick, we
gotta address that. Never before has there been a team
in the college football playoffs with three losses. H. Alabama
is skating by as well on name and brand recognition,
and that's just what it is. They should not be
in the college football playoffs with three losses. I don't
care what conference you're in. To me, the SEC you think?

(06:02):
Are you SEC A big time? I know you you
know you went to all brains. I know by nature
you want to say SEC. But if you review both
conferences top to bottom, which is the stronger conference here?

Speaker 4 (06:10):
I'm going to go SECM biased okay, and Alabama apparently
had one of the strongest strength of schedules. Okay, So
I mean, do you feel like it's because last year
they were out?

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (06:21):
I know.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
I just think that.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
I think when you have the number one team in
the country being Indian, right, I think you. I think
everything is a matter of branding and marketing and you
want certain names a part of certain things. Right, you
leave out Notre Dame. You gotta have one program that
has a rabbit fan base. I think Alabama and Notre
Dame in my estimation. Again, I did not go to
a college in the SEC, so correct me if I'm wrong.

(06:46):
But Notre Dame and Alabama are the two programs that
travel the best in terms of their fan base and
their brand and name.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
Cachet just carries a lot of weight.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (06:54):
So at number five is Oregon. Six is Old Missed,
so they have to play TWU Lane. That's going to
be very interesting because both of those head coaches have
gotten promotions or gotten other jobs.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
I'm not sure.

Speaker 4 (07:08):
I think I saw somewhere that some raw is going
to be able to coach for Tulane, but we know
that Old Miss will not be coaching for Ole Miss.
I'm sorry that Lane Kiffin, excuse me, will not be
coaching for Old Miss. Old Miss will be coaching for
Old Miss because we don't know who the interim miss.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
It's so stupid. I can't believe they're doing that. It's
just it's just not smart.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
But well, the.

Speaker 4 (07:29):
Question is, if if Old Miss gets to the semi
finals and they do some award ceremony or they have
some big thing, does Lane Kiffin get any acknowledgment in
that if they get to the national championship, does Lane
Kiffin get any acknowledgment in the fact that he led
this team all the way to at least the postseason,

(07:50):
at the very least.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
Big credit for the construction of the roster at the least.
You can't. You can't. You can't erase what we were.
They can't erase what we were. You don't know what
that's from butter room now flip continue.

Speaker 4 (08:02):
But anyways, so if Tulane beats Old Miss, like that's
that's huge, you know. Anyways, Okay, so then you have
A and M at seven, they take on Miami. Miami
jumped in a little bit. I think that's gonna be
a good game. I think they have a very dynamic
quarterback and Marcel Reed text A and M. Does they

(08:23):
really came out of nowhere this year? Just like in Indiana,
nobody was thinking that an M was gonna go undefeated.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
Wh A and M is always tough. Indiana is an
afterthought like Indiana but.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
Not but not in the SEC.

Speaker 4 (08:36):
Like I think that like we thought they would be
decent like they've always been, but not elite.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
Well we ain't think was gonna be decent.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
I don't want to make always Yeah, you always have
belief that A and M has a shot every year.
They they in Texas, they got them big country white
boys in the trenches.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
I just I always give them a shot.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
But I thought Texas would have been better than A
and M. That was my thought. Gotcha, so that'll be
a good game.

Speaker 4 (09:01):
And then obviously the marquee matchup is Alabama versus Oklahoma,
eight versus nine. They've already played in Oklahoma, beat them,
I got so you're going, okay, I keep forgetting that
Oklahoma's in the SEC.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
It's a new world, okay. And then what's our last
match up?

Speaker 4 (09:21):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (09:21):
We got that's it? No jmu oh sorry.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
Don't in disrespect. That's crazy.

Speaker 4 (09:30):
See Okay, you have James Madison versus Organ, so this
is the five ce versus the twelve Credison also has
a new head coach and Billy Napier who came from Florida.
So it's really it's just interesting because it's like who
is coaching, who is doing the coaching, and is Billy
Napier coming in and coaching or is it gonna be

(09:50):
people from the old staff that's coaching. If Billy Napier
comes in and somehow upsets Organ, does he get the
credit for this? Or is their previous head coach?

Speaker 1 (10:02):
Do you see how it's like it's crazy to come
in and lead a program to hop in in the
last while.

Speaker 4 (10:07):
You was at Florida, that is crazy, Ronnie. You were
after all were horrible. You really kind of got it
wasn't really a promotion, right like you got fired and
then you're at James Madison, which is not a promotion,
and they are in the college football playoffs.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
So you just inherited.

Speaker 4 (10:28):
A college football playoff team. Okay, let's get into the
bowl games. I just wanted to just say this. I
just I feel like we just got to do away
with them because teams aren't playing in them. Teams don't
feel like it's worth whatever the investment is to send
these kids down here for a week, you know what

(10:49):
I mean. Like I thought, like when I was in college,
going to a bowl game was all about the experience.
It was like, okay, like you can go to Florida,
or you can go out to Texas or whatever. You're
there for a whole week. You have all these experiences.
Kids don't want the experiences anymore.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
They want to play for a national championship.

Speaker 4 (11:06):
And it's gonna be interesting to see these big title
sponsors start to pull out because the teams aren't wanting
to play. If the teams say, hey, we're gonna play,
your star players aren't playing, what is the investment for
the title sponsor to keep putting up millions of dollars
for what?

Speaker 1 (11:27):
Well, the fan base is the fan base, and people
are you know, alumni bases are going to watch their
team play in any bowl games. So it doesn't matter
if you have a school that gets replaced and one
opts out. You know, people love football, so it really
doesn't even matter who's on the field. People want to
see two teams clashing. I will say though, that some
years ago, a lot of people were complaining that players

(11:48):
were opting out of playing in bowl games that didn't
really hold any weight and down to see entire programs
do that. I no longer ever want to hear people
being mad at players preparing for the NFL Draft and
protecting their body, protecting, yeah, make sure they avoid injury injury,
excuse me in bowl games by opting out. I don't
want to hear that anymore. I did see a report

(12:08):
that a player on the Ohio State team was opting
out of playing in the bowl game, but I think
that might have just been like people just love making
up stuff on in that so it.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
Might have been false.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
But Jay, I don't want to hear any more complaints
about the players doing what's best for themselves.

Speaker 4 (12:22):
Yeah, because, like I know, I saw recently only because
Auburn's name was thrown in there. But like the Birmingham
Bowl historically is not a huge bowl. I think Georgia
Southern has accepted to play in the Bowl, but there's
been like six or seven teams that are.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
Like, no, we don't want to play.

Speaker 4 (12:38):
And Auburn I don't even think it was Bowl eligible,
Like they didn't have six wins.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
I think they were five. They had five.

Speaker 4 (12:42):
Wins, and they still said, we don't even want to
go up the road to out two and a half
hours to Birmingham to play in the Birmingham Bowl against
Georgia Southern.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
Well, while I Auburn played Georgia Southern, though, Like that's
not you.

Speaker 4 (12:55):
Know, I get that, But I'm just saying the point
is that even you weren't really eligible, so you could
have said, oh, yeah, like we were on the outside
looking in, Yeah, we'll go up here and play one
more game.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
I would have did that one either, but shout out,
I'm not playing Georgia.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
So I'm just making a point that it's getting pointless.

Speaker 4 (13:16):
Yeah, it's levels to this, like especially your smaller bowls,
like your Birmingham Bulls, like some you know, like some
of the little small balls.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
Like I hear you.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
I get what you're saying. I'm picking up what you're
putting down. I just if I'm Auburn, I'm as Auburn.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
You went to Auburn. I'm not playing Georgia Southern. That's stupid. Anyway, y'all, let.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
Us know your thoughts on notre Dame opting out of
all Bowl games and let us know also how you
feel about the college football playoff seating, as well as
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Speaker 2 (13:40):
What else you want to hear people about.

Speaker 4 (13:42):
Do you feel like ball games should just slowly go away?

Speaker 3 (13:46):
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