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August 13, 2024 43 mins
The Fun House has a new look.  Check out Kid N Play as they dig into new segments and features on the podcast.  This week, Andre 3000 says, "All these rappers sound alike".  Kid n Play sound off on this as well as a 15 Year old who put out a diss-track about his grandma -- is he doin the most?  Follow, Like, Subscribe and Share @thefunhousepod #hiphop #podcast #kidnplay.  Watch full episodes of #thefunhousepodcast with Kid n Play on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@U1PN/podcasts, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or visit @urban1podcasts to learn more.  Follow us on IG: @thefunhousepod @KidFromKidnPlay @the_playgroundz @Jodi.Gomes   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
It's a podcast. Hey, oh, oh, what's good? My brother?

Speaker 2 (00:24):
And what's happening? Uh, what's happening? Play? What's what's good?
What's good in your world?

Speaker 1 (00:29):
It's hot in here and I want to take my
clothes off anyway.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Yes, yes, I think you got to ask Nellie about that.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Pause pause total.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
Hey, y'all, welcome to the fun House Podcast with your
host Kid and Play. Thank you for the support you've
been you've been giving us. This is our our offering
into the podcast world. Uh, it's it's all about our
love of hip hop and and uh and the whole
world and the culture that surrounds it. Uh. We we
We definitely have our foundation in music and when within

(01:05):
the context of this show we like to examine music forms.
Play tends to prefer and lean toward the classic side
of hip hop, which is a beautiful thing. It's kind
of where we come from. But I also listen to
to the same, you know, to the to the culture
and the music, but more on the on the new
school tip.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
I try to keep my hear you do you do?

Speaker 1 (01:26):
You know? Yeah? I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
I can't keep my head to the streets right now
because the streets is really hot right now it's ninety degrees.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Man, you ain't you ain't never long literally.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
So also we also asked that you, you know, pardon us,
as we are still a work in progress. We have
a new look now. Technology has taken a hold of us,
and we are looking forward to the guests we have
scheduled in the near, very near future. But right now
we are using ourselves as sacrificial lambs to make sure

(01:58):
that we get it right so we don't waste our
guest time and more importantly, we don't waste your time.
So hanging there with us, It's all good, and thank
you for making us in the top twenty five percent
the average in regards to listeners, so big shout out
salute Urban one, and to Apple and Spotify and wherever

(02:21):
you get your listening, and especially shout out to YouTube
watching pleasure. So what's good kid, what's new in your world?

Speaker 2 (02:29):
Well, you know what, we've been doing.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
A lot of shows besides that, Yeah, a lot a
lot of traveling phone still ringing.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
That's always good. Uh.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
And with that, I think one of the things we
like to do we're trying to establish these traditions on
the Fun House Podcast is because you.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
Are talking, the streets are talking about.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
The streets are blabbing. We'd like to get to our
song of the day. We each have a song of
the day play age before beauty I will I will
let you go first.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
Nice all credit due, I give you that. I tip,
my tip, my brim to you, my my, my, my
fitted to you. I tip. But anyway, yeah, my classic
of the day or for this particular episode is our
homeboy literally B. We literally all came up in the

(03:23):
same neighborhood together. B. Yes, Eric B and Uh. Like
I said, this is an exaggeration. East Elmhurst, Queens, New York.
This is where we all came from. And he ran
into a very talented brother out there on Wine Dance,
Long Island stand up for mister rock Kim and my
song choice and classic song choice of the day is

(03:46):
Eric B and rock Kim, which is Eric B is President.
I always thought it was Eric BF for president, but
I was corrected by our brilliant research staff. Tris what's up?
UH corrected me? And that is be as President. It
was produced by Eric B and Molly mal. Molly Mal
actually is uncredited on that because Eric B says he

(04:09):
paid him as an engineer. All right, contro.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
Sound like Eric B b B being cheap.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
That's what that, you know, we you know, we had
the pleasure we get together with Eric B from time
to time, and the less thing we did to him
was when we had our residency with him out in Vegas.
And that what he shared is the fact of just
getting into the dynamics of you know what it actually took.
You know what I'm saying. He had the idea, he

(04:37):
didn't have the equipment necessarily went to see Molly mal
I wanted like this, I wanted like this, sample it
like this, do it like this? So there's always that discrepancy,
that fine line in regards to us not knowing any
better what particular positions was called and who did what.
You know, it's a fine line in regards to how

(04:59):
the credit goes, you know, right right right.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
What he said?

Speaker 3 (05:03):
Okay, I got to a song as well, but mine
is kind of on newer tip.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
And the song I'm putting for today is Key Glock
and the late Young Dolph.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
What yeah, yeah, it's called Let's Go. Let's Go. It's
actually the remix.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
Uh, let me get let me make sure I get
right produced by King Walker King Wonka as in Willie
Wonka and how Duke and beats. Uh, you know, kind
of much more of the newer variety of real Southern
flavor to it.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
And you know, I found myself. You know, it was
it was. It was a bop.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
I was, I was, I was. I was bopping, I
was popping around the house and chilling. But unfortunately, uh said,
the Young Dolph was murdered.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
Uh yeah in his hometown.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
Yeah, really a tragedy. A young man was doing a
lot for his community and uh, you know it's his family.
So that was a tragedy. So you know, maybe as
a tribut you give this one to try viewers and listeners.
That's key Block and the late great Young Dolph. Let's
go remix.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
And speaking of late grade, I want to go back
to mine and give a big shout out. We should
have to Marley Maul, big up Queen's Bridge in the building,
big up to a story of projects, all of that
Queen surrounding Jamaica and all of that. But we lost
a friend and another person that we frequented parties, house parties,
excuse the pun back in the days, and big condolences

(06:31):
to the family and friends of our friend DJ Polo.
You know who is DJ with Aku g Rap big
shout out to coog Rap. But yeah, I got to
check that out, Key Block and young do it's the
dog my bad. This is what happens with classic school.
People try and say younger people's names. So it's called

(06:52):
let's go, and.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
It's let's go the remix.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
I guess, I guess I didn't hear the original, but
this was it said, this was the remix?

Speaker 1 (07:00):
All right? Well, speaking of, let's go about say less
or who's doing the most?

Speaker 2 (07:05):
Less the most? Okay, gotcha?

Speaker 1 (07:08):
So what we got? Who we got? What we got?

Speaker 2 (07:12):
Well explain explain say less or doing the most?

Speaker 1 (07:14):
Okay, Well, say less can be when you're saying too much,
and maybe you need to fall back and say less.
You might find yourself in a situation where it doesn't
involve articulation or language. Is this you know, hey, may
need to fall back. Doing the most normally means that,
but in our case we kind of flip the script
here because doing the most doesn't have to be necessarily

(07:35):
anything embarrassing or anything doing too much. Doing the most
could be blessing somebody with some money, someone in need,
doing something for a school, Uh, saving a life, you know,
all of those good things can the most? Yeah, doing
the It depends on the situation. It could go either way.
But this is how the Funhouse does it. And this

(07:57):
is our explanation for this segment. Call say, let's or.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
Doing the most? What we got? What we got? What
we have here is recently a fifteen year old young
African American kid made a disc track.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
What else is new?

Speaker 2 (08:17):
What made it? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (08:17):
But what made it different? The distract was made against
his grandmother. M It was just his grandmother because apparently
the kids, the kid has gone missing.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
It's a shame going.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
Missing, so that grandmother's looking for him and whatnot, you know,
telling the telling the street tape. Whereas my grandson, well,
you know whatever, whatever was this kid, Tyron Giles, who's
I looked him up on I g I think he
goes by the name of of Chig Chig Smooth, something
like that, Chig Smooth. And he made a disc track.

(08:52):
This in his grandmother telling telling her that he ain't missing.
I'm not missing, and I'm gonna come at you. I'm
gonna shoot you in the chest. He's saying all kinds
of crazy stuff to his grandmother. Right now, in my opinion,
that's definitely doing the most, young man. Young man you
are doing, You are doing the most, maybe even the

(09:14):
most tests.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
What's the backstory? Why does he feel that way about
his grandmother? And and does she have a gun? You know?

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Well, I think those two very good questions. But no,
you know what, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
I don't know the back backstory, but I do know that, uh,
you know, apparently he actually was missing, or at least
missing to his grandmother. Yeah, he insists on this track,
uh that that he's not you know, don't bother looking
for me. I'm gonna come come and looking for you.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
You know what I mean? It was.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
It was just it's just rather bizarre. Now I knew
you hadn't heard the song per se, but just in general,
it sounds it sounds pretty wild to me.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
What do you think?

Speaker 1 (09:55):
Well, you know, it begs the question where are we
at with our youth? You know, for you and I
on to come up at one time being that age. Sure,
that was unheard of, unheard unheard of. So it's gotten
to a point I think I forgot what Reality star

(10:17):
once said. It used to be a time in life
where people aspired to be famous, But now it seems
like you're dealing with a culture where it's you strive
to be infamous. So it's like I can't help but think,
because of the environment that we're in now, is this
something for attention for life? That's who's going to buy

(10:39):
this this tune? Who's going to support it? You know
what I'm saying. I'm not We're not here to judge
because we don't know what the backstory is. We don't
know what's going on in that home. But for it
to come to that particular level of at least the
would you call it music of violence? Yes? I mean

(11:01):
how did you see it? Where is it of?

Speaker 2 (11:05):
You know what? I just or just to see how
many you know, I googled it.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
Oh you got to do is type in a missing
fifteen year old distance grandmother and uh, you know it'll
it'll come up in various in various forms.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
And then the next question is what's the ethnic Uh what's.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
You didn't see a picture of the kid?

Speaker 1 (11:31):
No? No, no, I didn't. I mean I could click
on it now. I just don't want to lose the
script in order for us to do this show.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
But look that's the kid.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
Oh hold on a minute. I mean, oh, okay, question
is answered. Oh, it doesn't make a difference if you're black, White, Asian,
Hispanic or whatever. Tragedy and this is is just not good,
you know what I'm saying. So on behalf of Kid
and Play and so many other people who support us
and know what we're about. Asking this young man and

(12:02):
you know, fall back.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
He looks, yeah, fall back, please, you're doing the most
And you know he looks he doesn't look like a
joyous child.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
Would would you say?

Speaker 1 (12:13):
Well, I mean most mugshots do they ever? You know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
You know, so it looks like a mugshot, right.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
Yeah, I mean that's my quick glance. That's what it
looked like to me. Like I said, you just never
know the situation because we're in a world today where
it's such tragic situations going on and what took place
to know, you know, as we don't claim to be journalists,
but we want to if we're going to report or
talk about something, we'd like to give as much correct
information as possible because we don't want any lynchings to

(12:43):
go on to people to go out there and you know,
do harm to him or the grandmother or like okay,
now the next question is where the actual parents?

Speaker 2 (12:52):
Mm, well that's all. That'll be another show, how about that? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (12:56):
You know, like wow, you can play tackle the issues
of the day of families and if families in crisis.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
So we you know, what was that show that used
to be on where they would show all those kinds
of things, you know, not cops, but you know all
these headlines and stuff that they would show these types
of stories and stuff. But we hope everything works out
for the best and that love will prevail at Tyron Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
Together, Tyron. All right, now, let's let's switch it up
a little bit.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
Uh, as he as the Sugarhill Gang used to say
next on the mic that my man hanged.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
This is called next on the mic, Next.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
On the sugar Hill Gang and master g my dude,
our dude anyway here man, I mean, we got next
on the mic. It's interesting. The question is, uh, all
rappers today do they all sound alike? And that question
is inspired by our friend Andre three thousand of Outcasts,

(13:55):
where I believe he made a statement and a discussion
on interview where he's that way, and the fact that
they are because they haven't taken the time to cultivate themselves.
To my understanding, that's the way he puts it. We
used to call that A and R. You know what
I'm saying when it came time to getting a record
deal where it was called for artist repertoire, is that

(14:17):
what it meant, artist and repertoire, Artists and repertoire, where
even in the days of Motown, before Barry Gordy would
let any artists come out of that stable that they
had to go through dance etiquette, you know, a way
to present themselves in an interview and among yeah, all

(14:38):
of that. So now I guess that's what Andre is
speaking on. What is your thoughts?

Speaker 3 (14:42):
Well, I saw I actually saw the interview, or at
least part of the interview where he was speaking this way,
And I truly believe that that Andre three thousand was
saying this out of love, out of his love for
hip hop, his love.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
For the culture. And so it wasn't like like and
O G you know, saying yo, these young these young dudes.
It wasn't.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
I didn't get that vibe at all. Right, What he
was was what he was stating, was because the landscape
of the music business, particularly hip hop, has changed so drastically. Yeah,
to your point, the artists and and do not go
through that process the way they used to. Andre three
thousand described how when they were coming up, when Outcast

(15:26):
was coming up, they were part of that group, the
Dungeon family with Rico Wade, the late Rico Wade and
that whole camp you know, uh se Lo Green in them. Yeah,
what happened was they would they would keep testing themselves.
They would try to make each other better. You know,
your first past wasn't necessarily going to be good enough

(15:48):
because they wanted to get the talent level and the
hip hop quality to its highest, So they wouldn't let
it go right away or well they tell them to
go back and write it, or flip the beat a
different way, make it better, keep always making it better.
Now he doesn't feel that artists today have that type
of structure so that they can, you know, have their

(16:09):
music judged and tweaked and uplifted.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
So I think that's so.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
I think he was coming from a position of love
for the culture. I honestly believe that, and I think
a lot of what he said was. It was was
spot on well. And you know, we were fortunate to
have that when we were coming up, WILLI, we had
a system.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
It brings me to a memory how important it was
you being and your crew to turn our brothers, me
being in my crew, the super lovers. How important it
was to practice. I mean we practiced, you know, we
especially if we knew we had a show coming up
at the local high school again excuse upon a house
party wherever we were fortunate enough for roller skating rink.

(16:52):
All those things we did to pay our dues. But
in those week days after school or in the summertime especially,
we got in one of our people's basement and we
practiced so much, to the point where there were penalties
if you didn't show, and especially I think it was
harsher if you showed up late rather than not show
up at all, you know, And it was very important

(17:14):
that we were on point where precision precise meant all.
If that's such a word, all of that precision, precise, precise, precise,
precision we ppees.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
You know that's a pause, okay, is.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
Yeah pp So the thing is is that it that
was so important and with that we it was like breathing.
We knew our routines, and we knew our wraps like
the back of our hand. What I will say, being
totally honest as always keeping in one hundred, I personally
don't know when I do listen to a mixtape, so

(17:57):
to speak. I don't know when one artist begins and
the other one ends. And even when it comes to gender,
I don't I will not be able to tell for
the most part, Oh that's a girl rapping, that's a
dude rapping. And I remember us on to come up
with our peers who are considered icons today, is that
it was very important, very important. It meant everything to

(18:21):
be unique, to be to the point that when our
joint came on the radio, or if it came on
a cassette tape or whatever, right off the bat, we
would usually the listener was spot on to know that
sounds like heavy D, that sounds like Public Enemy, that
sounds like you know artists, I mean arrested development kid
and play too short, whatever the whatever it was. The

(18:44):
word you did not want to hear apply to you
was Joe, that group or that rapper is biting. That's
what you did not want to hear, like at all.

Speaker 3 (18:54):
Yeah, I think that's I think that's a legitimate I'm
gonna even want to say complaint. I think think that's
a legitimate observation about the music of today. And you know,
because you know, my lane, uh in terms of this
podcast is is towards the newer side of things. You know,
sometimes you do kind of feel like a lot of

(19:16):
the songs just have a similar vibe to them, the
rap style, the beats.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
As as as well.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
You know, I'll be traveling out of town and a
lot of times what I'll do is I'll kind of
tap in to the local hip hop station and just
you know, maybe I'm maybe I'm in Houston, maybe I'm
in outside of Chicago, what have you, just to kind
of tap in and it's it's yeah, it's it's. It's
a little bit more difficult these days to kind of
distinguish from from I think the classic era of hip hop,

(19:48):
which as you as you said, every group slapped, but
in a different style. And in me for great a
Love concerts, because you had this kind of schmortgage board
of music that all went together. That's the reason why
Kidd and Play could tour with Nwaka Cood tour were
too short, and Kidn't Play could do shows with Boogie
Down productions, and Salt and Pepper and and and it

(20:11):
all went together. It was all so different and distinct,
but it all went together perfectly.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
I mean, it's what you call diversity, shmortgage board of sorts,
you know where you know again you could be able
you know what the Sheryl Salt used to call it,
his ear candy ear an eye candy. You know what
I'm saying. It made things different. And again we're not
here to judge. I mean, if this is what the
marketplace likes and wants, so be it. Evidently they know.

(20:42):
Sometimes people say, well, maybe you're listening too slow or
you're not listening right to be able to understand and appreciate.
And then again a lot of times the music and
the subject matter comes from the environment in which people
are coming from, which those particular people and those demographics
will be able to really relate to. You might not
know about that what we go through here in Minnesota.

(21:04):
You New Yorkers, or you New Yorkers or you know,
people from different cities and different states are not able
to identify with what that person is talking about. That
comes from that particular city of state. So it's so
many there's so many reasons, so to speak.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
I will say that the one thing and one beautiful
thing about hip hop is it's always constantly evolving.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
Yes, it's evolved.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
From from its inception on down the line or you know,
throughout our era and moving forward. It's interesting and I'm
very curious what what hip hop will look like in
the next five years. You know, where will we be
What will be new forms within hip hop that will emerge,

(21:47):
you know, like like drill music.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
Or you might cause a little controversy here. And this
is with no disrespect. Would everyone thinks that today what
we're calling hip hop? Should it be called hip hop?

Speaker 2 (22:02):
Wow? What would we call it?

Speaker 1 (22:04):
Well, that's that's the challenge I would give it because
you know, I'm not saying it's not. I mean, based
on what hip hop was originally supposed to be love, peace,
unity and having fun. It was also escapism. It was
also burfed out of a lot of craziness that was
going on in New York speak of you know, speak

(22:25):
of what we spoke of at the top of the
show Full Circle heat, you know, the heat wave, the
situations in the home. Going back to the kid in
the rap that he made towards his grandmother. A lot
of stuff was going on in the homes that you
just wanted to escape. So there's this phrase you don't
hear it anymore called music coms the Savage Beasts. So
here's people going out to the block parties, going to

(22:46):
the parties for escapism, and here's this music, this soothing
things out the gang violence, the crime and stuff that's
taking place in New York. So that's what that music
and stuff was about. You're celebrating the break beats, what
they called the get down part, all of that. So
here's what they were talking about. If I ever get
my hands on some money, this is what I'm gonna

(23:07):
do with it. One of the famous parts and lyrics
in the sugar Hill Gangs rappers Delight, you know, hotel,
Motel holiday and what you're gonna do motel, what you're
going to drive in. A lot of the rap was
about that till the message came in. So now, when
you get to the fact that rap hip hop itself
is very lucrative, especially financially, it's not that kind of

(23:30):
hunger anymore. It's more materialism. But at the same time,
you got more singing in it. You know, you got Drake.
That's what he's accused of other artists alike. So when
I say should it be called hip hop? I don't
mean yo, don't do all hip hop. Y'all don't know
nothing about hip hop no more. I ain't coming from
that place at all. But maybe for it to have
its own, his own accolades, its own, its own, to

(23:53):
own its own, can it be called something else? Is
it a strain perhaps from hip hop?

Speaker 2 (23:59):
Well, the way I look at it is, you know,
hip hop is hip hop is the is the is
the tent.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
You know that that cover that covers, that covers everything,
particularly music wise, and then I think within that you
have these different factions like a like a drill music
or or like an emo rap from guys like like
Juice World to your point, like like you know, like
Drake's flavor, like the stuff within it that has more
of a Caribbean vibe. Yeah, you know, but but you know,

(24:29):
moving forward, like I said, that's what's so exciting about
hip hop. It never stays the same, and it's got
a it's got a very steady and strong foundation, and
and and you know, it's a music of the people.
So ultimately the people help determine what direction that that
hip hop goes, and we'll have to see what happens
in the future. It's exciting.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
I concur well, I think it's time for my lists.
I think it's time for the playlist.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
Playlist? Okay, and what do you mean?

Speaker 1 (25:00):
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to step on you.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
What you say, Yeah, you know what we need?

Speaker 3 (25:04):
We need like like when you announce, like the playlist.
We need something like you know, the playlist. You know,
we need like a you know what I'm saying, like
a little jingle or something like that.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
How about this for now, it's time for the playlists.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
Hey, okay, so.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
Don't worry. I have something for you kid. But anyway,
the playlist. Since I am an aspiring cinematographer, director, content creator,
I think that's the new term. Sometimes I like to
share what inspires me. Great artists such as Gordon Parks.

(25:44):
Citizen King was done by Auston Wells, great filmmakers of
their times. Big shout out to Reggie Hudlin who put
us on with House Party and does incredible work. Him
and his brother, the Hudland brothers. Anyway, I like to
share movies that have moved me, inspire me, and I
think for other future filmmakers, and hey, you just like

(26:04):
seeing a good film, good documentary, music video, short film.
I wanted to just suggest something that might inspire and
encourage or just be point blank entertaining. I don't think
anything you see over an hour, maybe even less, that
you should be the same person you were when you
press play excuse the pun after you've watched it. I

(26:26):
think something should have changed, something should be different. When
I make what I make, what I produce, what I produce.
I don't mind people saying play, you did a great job.
Ego is the ego. But what I really love and
want to hear or strive for, is for someone to say, wow, play.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
I didn't know that.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
If I hear a person say that to me, I
know I've done my job. So with all that being said,
here's one of those films that were amazing to me.
Nineteen seventy four, a classic piece called Claudine, starring James
Earl Jones and Diane Carroll, directed by John Berry, and
the writers were Tina and Lester Pine. The reason why

(27:04):
I love that movie is because he.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
Loved this movie with the the intro was so long.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
Yeah, but we needed to be. We've been credited with
too short, so I'm trying to longate things.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
Remember fair enough, You remember right? Right?

Speaker 1 (27:21):
Okay, So anyway, I'll make this part brief. The great
thing about this movie is it's a classic. And you
know what our definition of classic, it transcends. It stands
the test of time. And when you see what people
dealing with economic issues, especially the black family in this
era in nineteen seventy four, it was about love being

(27:45):
found between a mother, a single mother, and a garbage
man played by James O. Jones, and how they wanted
to be together enjoy everything that comes along with being
a family, even though her children weren't his. However, they
couldn't do that, because that's something you know, you're old
enough to remember. But I know how much it was

(28:06):
in my house. How the government, the city in particular,
refused to help the families in economic stress. They wouldn't
help them if there was two incomes coming in the home.
So they would do these surprise visits and come to
your home and make sure that the father or the

(28:28):
man or a second income wasn't coming in that house.
If they found that out, they would end that public assistance.
And that was wrong because to me, that was the
end or trying to be the end of the Black
family or anybody's family. So for this to be done
in this film and tell it the way it was
told or shown was just so dope. I mean, come on,

(28:52):
James O. Jones, Diane Carroll too.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
Legendis it was definitely a classic.

Speaker 3 (28:58):
Yeah, And to your point, there was a really it's
a love story, yeah at its core, but it's also
a kind of a really harsh look at at society
and uh and how it treats uh people that are
struggling financially, and that was that was that was a
great undercurrent of the U of the movie. Don't want

(29:21):
to tell you too much about it, but uh uh,
it's it's a real it's a real sweet movie.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
I definitely, I definitely recommended where you can blend a
love story because it definitely goes to the love story
or the couple definitely goes to their challenges because one
of the things that can be the decline of a
relationship is financing. But check it out. Claudine, starring James l.
Jones and Diane Carroll, directed by John Berry and writers

(29:47):
are Tina and Lester Pine. Excellent film. Check it out.
It's one of those timeless classics that I believe a
lot of you filmmakers and just people who love films
would like to check out what's going on man with you?
Are you just kidding or what?

Speaker 2 (30:00):
Make sure that they go down the Blockbuster and get
that get Thank.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
You very much. All right, all right, now it's time
for just kidding.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
Just kidding, just kidding a little a little Really what
is that it sounds like that, that sounds like I
don't know what that sounds like? Yeah, yeah, yeah, we
need to we need to on that.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
Make it all right?

Speaker 3 (30:31):
So yeah, this is a little segment that I constructed
here called just kidding, you know, just just observations or
maybe just putting something out there for us to discuss
and for you the viewers and the listeners to discuss
as well. Coming from where we came from, Queens, New York,
looking fresh was always very very important, from your clothes

(30:54):
and particularly your haircut. You know, we we definitely established
that spend a lot of time in barbershops when we
were growing up, and I just have a simple uh, like.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
Like they couldn't tell, right, yeah, yeah, it's.

Speaker 3 (31:10):
And and look, barbering if that's if that's even a word,
or being a barber, uh takes a great deal of
skill if you're if you're you know, if you want
to make if you want to make money at it.
And but all right, I just wanted to ask a question,
who are the better barbers? Black barbers or Latin barbers? Right,

(31:30):
black barbers or Spanish barbers?

Speaker 2 (31:34):
Well I've been little little who.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
Else can answer that question, but you and go ahead,
right right, Well, and just.

Speaker 3 (31:43):
A little a little history, quick history when we were
coming up, and you know, when we were creating these
hairstyles and whatnot, Mike Barber was Dominican. He was a
Dominican cat and very popular barber in our neighborhood. And
they called him the doctor and doctor and he was
really really funny guy and his his catchphrase was we

(32:06):
all used to ask him he said, why did they
call you the doctor? And the doctor who had very
had very pronounced the Dominican accent. He said, he they
called me becall, I fixed your head, fakes your head,

(32:28):
that's kind of anyway. So my barber was was was
was Dominican. But the barber I have now is a
black one. She's a sister, So I don't know. I
don't know you have an opinion on that. I mean,
I'm sure we've been cut by both over the years.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
Yeah, I started out with the doctor too, but you know,
and the barbershop was a very important place in the
black community, in any community, I guess, but I learned
only because I ended up owning barbershops that that particulars
symbol the spinning thing, you know, back in the long

(33:07):
time ago, back many many decades ago, before we was
even a sparkling father's eye, is that that was the
place not only for getting haircuts, but it was also
for medical treatment as well. Both did that. It was
all the same person. So it was funny that he
said medieval times, I'm in the black community way back.

(33:27):
It was like, yes, they were. They were medical as
well as barber's as well. So it's funny that you're
you're all barber at one time said fix your head
maybe mentally and psychologically as well as physically as well.
But the thing that was interesting was I remember being
upset with the doctor that we called him respectfully and

(33:49):
fondly up to a certain point with me is you
were bringing a lot of notoriety to him, a lot
of business because people loved your high top fade and
they wanted to know where the high top faid was done.
And I remember when we started going there, boy, the
line or the waiting for people to get their hair

(34:11):
cut by him or get fixed, you know, and he
was still charging you and charging you regular price, which
wasn't cheap at that time, and not even giving you
a break on the price. And when I found that out,
it got me so upset. That's what made me decide
to do my own barbershops, which I understood you not
coming to them because it's you know, the relationship between

(34:32):
a boy becoming a teenager to a man at his
barbers everything. You just need that peace of mind. You
don't want to take any chances. So I got why
you didn't support me, but I got it. But the
thing is is that I just felt for how much
business you brought this man, he should at least made
an effort to look out for you one way or

(34:54):
the other. So I think it just depends on who
you grew up with and what your right what your
flavor is, I mean, what did you think? And evening
the sister I just got my hair cut recently by
a sister that did an next job. You can't tell now.
I got to see her or my main guy soon.
But what's your thoughts or your vote?

Speaker 3 (35:13):
Well, I would say this, I'm just in general and
from having been to different types of been to black barbershops,
been to to Latin barbershops, you know, there's there's kind
of a different vibe.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
You know.

Speaker 3 (35:24):
The black barbershops is you know, as you know, uh
not not just a place where people get cut, but
it's where you kind of catch up on on the
on the local news or what's just what's going on?
Oh yeah, a lot of sports talk, uh you know
stuff like that. You know, stuff I've seen and uh,
Spanish barbershops that that I've been to or that I've
seen on on on via social media. I've seen one

(35:48):
where you know, obviously they got this crazy Latin music
playing and they got strippers up in there. Man, It's
like so crazy kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
Man.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
So I don't know, I think I would say maybe
the Spanish barbers has a much of a mare of
a rhythmic musical vine to it. That kind of energy
and the black barbershops, you know, there's just there's a
lot of talking going on.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
There's a lot of banter. There's a lot of banter
and and you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (36:17):
But but you know, they're both good on both sides.
There's there's there's a slightly different energy, is what I
would say.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
No, that's very true. And it said, you know, it's
so interesting that you hit the point of that's the
place again, that was the spot many years ago, prior
to us even being born in the black community. That
took place there too. That was the latest. I guess
women have their beauty salons, men have their you know,
the barbershops for you're the latest thing in the neighborhood,
the gods or whatever, but also the latest, especially when

(36:46):
it comes to sports, you know, things of that nature.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
Nothing but arguments and and and you know who did
this or who could beat who? Uh types type stuff.
One thing I also remember too is there was usually
you know, you have you have a bunch of barbers
in the shop, but there was there was usually like
one cat that didn't get a he didn't get a
lot of he didn't get a lot of business, and
then he would he would be like, yeah, if a

(37:11):
new customer came in, they would direct you to this
guy who who doesn't get a lot of business. But
there's a reason why because he's out there zekeing motherfuckers.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
And you know, it's so funny you mentioned that because
I think who brilliantly brilliantly showed that? And I got
to give kudos to Ice Cub and his whole barbershop series,
especially Cedric to Entertainer's part of it. You know what
I'm saying is that they definitely nailed those type of
dynamics that took place in the barbershop in regards to
who would zek you remember you get zeked? You know

(37:41):
what I'm saying, Oh, man, that that and you go
home and put some and you might not even know
you got zuntil you put some alcohol on it or
the barber actually put alcohol on it, and that burning
sensation was like no joke, but yeah, their own would
you go to a white barber?

Speaker 2 (37:59):
Oh hell no? Oh hell hell hell to the no.
But you know what, you know what, I take that back.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
I take that back because there's a guy that I've
been following on Instagram. His name is Vic Blends b
I C B L E N D S. Vic Blends.
He's a young white pet who. What he does is
he goes around I guess he goes around the country
and he all gives people free haircuts, like right out

(38:29):
on the street, like like he'll whip out a chair,
a lot of stuff, and you know, he'll see like
some young and with a with a particularly young people.
He'll see your kid would have messed up, but you know,
wigs messed up. So he'll offer to cut their hair
for free. And then he you know, then he kind
of interviews the the young person, ask him about what
they're trying to do, and and you know, and then

(38:49):
and then it becomes and the guy can really cut
you know, the guy the guys, he's nice with the
he's nice with the with the blade.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
I wouldn't mind that for the experience, you know what I'm.

Speaker 3 (38:59):
Saying, you know, because what ends up happening, what ends
up happening. Vic Blend's you know, I guess he has
he has a backstory where he came from kind of
a meager beginnings, and he seems like a really spiritual guy,
young guy, you know, he's in his twenties. It looks
like early twenties, maybe mid twenties. And he ends up,
you know, really getting inside the persons whose head he's

(39:20):
cutting and inspiring them, you know, giving them encouragement like
you you know, asking them what they want to be
when they get out of school or what you know,
and then talk about, you know, their dreams and how
achievable they are. So you know, it turns into a
really rousing kind of uplifting experience. It's it's more than
just a haircut. And then the kid, you know, then
you got him looking nice, and then he shows the

(39:41):
kid and the kid is like, whoa, you got Tom
pressed because the kid was coming in looking crazy, you know.
So yeah, so that's the one dude, So look him up.
You check him out on ig vic Blends.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
Well, what I would I would also encourage and invite
the the audience to do is look up the history
of the black barbershop. I think you'll find it amazing,
because when I checked it out and learned it myself,
it was like it was like crazy, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (40:09):
So yeah, so I just told this one last thing
and you and one last thing and you you'll you'll
know exactly what I'm talking about. So, not only and
in particular the black barber shops, it was also an
arena for commerce, you.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
Know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (40:24):
People would the people would come in there and and
have things for sale, that DVDs for sale, CDs for.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
Sale, it could be, it could be anything, you know.

Speaker 3 (40:34):
Uh uh, And so you would come to the barber
barbershop because you know, that's where everybody was.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
You know, Kad's got some money. They they had to
get cut.

Speaker 3 (40:41):
You know what I mean that if you have a
captive audience kind of deal, so you could kind of
show them your wheares and hopefully get some sales out
of it. So, you know, the barbershop in general was
really really a hub of activity. And uh, you know,
I'm not I'm not quite sure that that uh you know,
I'm not I'm not quite sure that that's exactly what
goes on these days, you know what I mean. Like
I said today, I've seen they got strippers up in there,

(41:04):
which I guess is commerce too some kind of way.
Imagine that getting your hair cutting and then you know,
tossing some dollars.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
There you go. Anyway, here's another exciting episode of the
Funhouse with Kid and Play again. We want to thank
you all so much for getting us in that top
twenty five percent as far as your podcasts, entertainment and experience.
Big shout out to Urban one, Apple, also Spotify or

(41:34):
wherever you listen. Please get at us on IG on Instagram,
get at us on YouTube.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
You like and.

Speaker 1 (41:43):
Subscribe yeah channel Yeah, give us suggestions of what you like,
what you feeling, don't like, topics you would want for
us to get into. And also we didn't do we
didn't have it this time, but we're gonna get on that.
We haven't forgot about your artists out there that's been
sending us images of We appreciate that. And hey, we
might have some T shirt future here, some merchandising and

(42:05):
stuff going on. But anyway, anything else you'd like to say.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
My dude, well, I'm trying to figure out what what did?
What have we learned today? Dude?

Speaker 1 (42:13):
Question what we what have we learned?

Speaker 2 (42:16):
I know we learned. One of the things we.

Speaker 3 (42:17):
Learned today was that there's a fifteen year old walk
in the streets with a gun looking for his grandmother.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
So that's that's that's be on the lookout. That's a
bolo be on the lookout.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
Well, what I would say that I've learned today? Good question. Oh,
well about your guy, the barber cat, the Caucasian brother
from another mother? What's his name again?

Speaker 2 (42:41):
Blends?

Speaker 1 (42:42):
Okay, I'm trying to look out for the opportunity to
get under the clippers of vic Blends. But on that note,
big shout out to our team behind the scenes, and
we look forward to the next episode. Yo, this is
fun and we're going to continue to make it fun.
That's what the podcast. It's a podcast, Like and subscribe
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