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Speaker 1 (00:05):
It's a podcast. What's up, mister fun Man?

Speaker 2 (00:18):
What h that's that's that's my name, mister.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
Man, the fun Man, And I'm housing stuff. I guess whatever.
So how are you?

Speaker 2 (00:28):
I'm killing? I'm killing you know what's up? I get
into the little theme song? You know what I'm saying
like it's.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
A podcast at A lot of people are writing in
about that. I get a lot of mail about that. Again,
the snail mail I get is incredible. I mean loads,
bad loads of mail about kid and play the fun
House where we want to thank all of the listeners
and the viewers for the love that they've shown for

(00:56):
who knew that the fun was still a thing still
be a thing?

Speaker 2 (01:01):
Fun? Fun is fun is still still cool? Is that
what we were saying?

Speaker 1 (01:05):
Fun and joy? Joy seems to be in the political community.
Joy seems to be a big thing. But fun enough, love, peace,
unity and having fun?

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Right? And it isn't that what it's all about here
at the Funhouse Podcast?

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Well it should be. We gotta get in like confetti
and balloons and stuff like this is our show from
time to time when the promoters will anding up for it.
But we have balloons and confetti in our shows.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
We haven't had that lately, but we did well.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
When was the last one? We had huge balloons? You
got to watch out for those balloons though. That was
we had what well we we would have huge balloons
and then we have confetti on a good night. It
just depends. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
It's been a minute.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
Well, people get violent with the balloons because it depends
on the texture of the rubber when they come at
your home. Man, Yeah, you know what I'm saying. But anyway,
what's going on out there in l A? Man? Is
it is it as hot as here in the East Coast.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
It is hot, but as the Angelinos know, it's more
of a dry heat as you will. I just got
what's Angelinos are people that live in Los Angeles?

Speaker 1 (02:25):
Oh? I thought it was a particular person.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
Where you lived at one time when we were Yeah,
what was it?

Speaker 1 (02:32):
What was the name of what you call the places
Awkward Apartments? Those in the filmmaking and music entertainment community
know what we speak of when we talk about the
the Awkward Apartments that was owned by Bob Hope in
part all together. Did you know that? Yeah? Yeah, good investment.
So what is the fun House all about kid break

(02:55):
it down, fun house.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
Look, the funhouse is rooted and foundation is the culture
of hip hop. How much we love hip hop, how
much hip hop has impacted our lives, celebrated, and we celebrated,
and we you know, we promote it. Uh, you know
throughout the culture, not just musically, but you know, just

(03:18):
across the board. There is a little bit of a
bend in the road as far as our personal personal favorites,
you know, our personal tendencies. You tend to favor the
more classic elements of hip hop. Uh, And and I
appreciate those, but you know, I always try to have

(03:40):
my ear to the ground, and here with these youngins
is doing what these damn kids is doing because I'm
curious and.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Possible future classics. You know, in our era, we did
have our hits and missus, and we try and acknowledge
those because a lot of those perceived missus or one
hit wonders. They kind of saved companies and save the
culture at times when things to be at a lull.
But now you tend to favor you still love your

(04:08):
classics because but then too, like you said, you keep
your ears to the streets with the younges. I do too.
I mean, you know, doing what I do when we're
not together in the higher learning community. I engage, you know,
I m f fact, my song of the day isn't
that old? Isn't that old?

Speaker 2 (04:25):
Okay? Sorry, so you're gonna him, You're gonna hit him,
hit him with your classic joint skime.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
Oh well, I didn't even know I seguate into it,
but yes, my classic joint is.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
We're getting used to this, okay.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
You know is a man I'm really feelings. I'm feeling
more because of the record I'm getting ready to mention
is because what he's become. He's actually a lawyer and
entertainment lawyer. I don't know if a lot of people
know that coming straight out of Howard University, Ladies and gentlemen,
mister Tracy Lee. And the name of the joint is

(04:56):
the theme AKA It's Party Time produced d Dot good
friends of ours and a guest we've had on the show,
our childhood teenage friend, mister Ron amen Ra amen Ra Lawrence.
They produced that joint with him.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
You know what, I think I knew that, but I
must have forgotten it. I didn't realize that that, Uh,
Derek d Dot, Derek Angeletti, and Ron Lawrence. I did
not know that they produced.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
That, but they all hung out together. I watched an
interview with him Tracy Lee not too long ago, and
I forgot that he became a lawyer, but he was
talking about you know that six Degrees of Separation is
a particular part in that record or a record he
did that. Let's just say jay Z was influenced by

(05:48):
I'll put it.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
Remember the record is part of time.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. Check that was it. That was
big record. So what you got for us?

Speaker 2 (06:05):
All Right? So I'm dipping and dabbing into the new school.
This one's a little bit different because it's like it's
it's new school needs old school, but it's kind of
new school. Uh. And I stumbled on this not too
long ago. The song is called rock Out, Okay, rock Out,

(06:25):
and the artist is actually a fella that I know
from Houston cat named Trade the Truth, Trade the Truth,
and Trade the Truth. On this particular cut, he's got
a stapferg from you know, from Harlem, from the from
the Asap Mob. And then I just recently heard a
remix and the remix has none other than Bust the

(06:47):
rhymes on it, So I thought this would be interesting
to put forth because it's got it's got new school
and old school, and I think this is what we
try to talk about on the podcast. Is that are
our goal and our hopes are that these worlds can combine,
so that the classic can combine with the with the
new school. And I think that's what this particular project does.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
The song is hard, so you got Trade the Truth.
Who's out of Houston. Then you got bust rhymes obviously
Long Island and asap for from Harlem. Rock Out. It's
produced by What's I think I'm gonna say, man, Man,
I gotta we gotta get some of these producer names
and these producing names Max, Yeah, XI Double D. But

(07:36):
you know whomever that you know, it was its joint.
It's hard. I saw the I saw a video the
other day, so yeah, I'm rocking with that. So it's
where the two Yeah yeah, yeah, it's where the things coincide.
And I think it sounds I think it sounds dope.
So that's rock Out, Trade the Truth.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
You know what I'd like to ask all audience, has
there ever been a truly successful record where it's been
the combination of what would be considered a new school
and an old school artist, and they had like a
number one banger that was on the top one hundred
Billboard charts for like weeks. Has that ever existed?

Speaker 2 (08:18):
You know?

Speaker 1 (08:18):
We some ones that have been some club bangers, but
I mean in regards to that one joint, yeah, if
someone could name one, yeah, I challenge you to name one.
I can't think of one, you know that has accomplished that.
So I think, I think it's so roomful. But I'm
asking the listeners and the viewers, can you come up

(08:40):
with a record that was a phenomenal that brought together
a new school or what would be considered a new
school artist and an older school artist and they created
something that's on the top one hundred billboard charts, that
was there for weeks, and like just say, it reached
the status of they're not like us, like exactly like

(09:04):
you have. You have R and B hits, you have
rap charting hits, but I'm talking about one, Like I said,
they're not like us, something of that status where two
artists from two different errors come together and boom. So
that's what I'm asking, you know, all.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
Right, but asking you shall receive and uh in terms
of receiving, let us let us move forward as we
as we go through our and check our boxes and
check our chest checklist.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
Is that is that time for that other part that
I get so much mail about. You know, So are
they doing the most?

Speaker 2 (09:39):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's either say less or doing
the most and uh, you know, we'll typically uh you know,
pick out what's going on. Actually it's gonna be a
little bit different.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
Yeah, I'm a little different on this one, a little
this one I'm kind of excited about, you know.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Okay, so let's take you you take the lead on
this one because I think this is the first time
we've actually done this.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
Okay, well basically with that in the viewers and't taking
the time for taking the time to engage with us
and to prove that we do read and we do
acknowledge and we we love what we're getting.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
People watch and listen to us.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
Yeah exactly. So I mean, come on, when you're hitting
the top twenty, it's your most favorite listeners. I mean
listen to podcasts. I mean someone's listening, thank you. But
we've picked some comments for this episode, say less or
doing the most where. We're going to address some of
the responses we got on a past subject matter. One

(10:41):
in particular, Andre three thousands comments about rappers and that
today's rappers he feels all sounds the same. So we've
gotten some very interesting comments on that. You want to address.
The first one we have here from Paul Vancilo. I
hope I said said his name correct, if I missed,

(11:02):
messed up, judge it to my head and not my heart, Paul.
But what does he say? Kid?

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Okay? So Paul van Solo if if we're getting closer, okay,
this is a comment. Unfortunately, the speed at which artists
are able to release music through social media platforms has
created a culture of remaining relevant through flooding the ears

(11:27):
of listeners. So yeah, I guess they're saying more is
more like you know that people release more in a
shorter period of time than they used to. He goes
on to say, in the late eighties and artists like
Ice Tea could drop Power that album Power, and almost
two years later dropped the Iceberg another album, and he

(11:51):
didn't lack quality as there was no drop off. But
and we appreciate, we appreciate your your your put but
I think, and I think we've talked about this a
little bit in previous episodes. We did the vibe, the
vibe was just different back then. They they kind of

(12:11):
ingrained in you the industry that you put a bunch
of music out, then you chill, people miss you, then
you come back. And I think the modern artist has
they've smashed that completely, and I think it. I am
one of the artists. I think that really started that
was Jay Z because he's just his mentality was well,

(12:35):
as long as I just keep coming out with something
fresh and something dope, then it doesn't matter. I don't
want you to miss me because if you if you,
if you miss me, somebody's gonna dive in and take
that place. As Ice Cueb said, there'll be a new
Nigga next year.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
Well, I think we can form to the to the climate.
I mean, you know prior back then, and I might
be going too deep. When you're looking at television and
for those of us who are older though, remember you
only had three networks CBS, NBC, and ABC. Then you
had Fox, then you had like upn WB others have
started to come. But now when you got cable, now

(13:13):
you're looking at like five hundred plus like different channels.
So your your swamp with just materials, with content, with entertainment,
with entertainment, and the same holds through. This holds true
sonically in regards to what you're listening to. So now
is you got people who are no longer held at
bay by record companies and will put you out when

(13:34):
we choose to put you out. Now you have Napster,
you have other things coming out with what do you
call it, the super Highway online and all of that.
People putting out music whenever they choose. Now it's no
longer any gatekeeper, so to speak. So now you got
to keep up with the joneses that ugly word I

(13:54):
call being in staying relevant. I mean, you know you
got a matter of fact, A person who responded to
this DJ all Day says in response to me, A
matter of fact, I agree. We can't blend combined boom
back or late eighties to nineties rap with today's wrap.
Call it something else today's wrap. Where's the turntablism? Where

(14:19):
are the DJs? Where the lyricisms or lyricism MC technical skills.
So he's looking at things being broken down where it's
not wrapped up or put into one particular column or
one particular category. If that makes any sense.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
I mean I think it does. If you look at
for example, if we have to look at stuff like
the Billboard charts, they have all different types of categories.
You know, they've got you know, I'm sure that you know,
they got a pop category, they've got a hip hop category,
they've got an adult contemporary category, they've got a blues category.
You know, they seem to set it up. And I

(14:59):
think I think that uh DJ all Day has a
point in terms of maybe maybe hip hop has has
gotten so big and has has so much history now
that you do need to kind of kind of break
it up and you know what I mean to and
just distinguish it. Yeah, why why why would you know

(15:21):
the baby or a little baby be competing against the
next public Enemy record? You know that doesn't that doesn't
that doesn't match, you know to me. You know they
could at what it could be in a contemporary hip
hop category.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
Well, what used to be called diversity, You know the
fact that you could win before you just had radio
stations and you heard, uh public Enemy. You heard all
different types of group from Heavy D and the Boys
or rested development us, whatever the case may be. There
was all different styles, different situations that made you appreciate

(16:01):
each other artist because it was you know, quoting from
Craig Mac, you know, a flavor, a new flavor in
your ear where it didn't come across, so redundant and
stuff all the time.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
You know.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
A matter of fact, All Day goes on to say,
if you got a laptop or just turn knobs for
effects and don't know how to scratch backslash or slash blend,
slash cut, not a mashup, you're not a real DJ.
South Side Jamaica Queens all day. Big shout out to
All Day from Jamaica Queens. But he's breaking it down,

(16:33):
you know, and.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
South Side got some say, well, obviously I would I
would imagine that all DJ, all Day from south Side
Jamaica Queens is leaning on your kind of classic vibe
of things because you know, particularly in terms of a DJ. Yeah,
I mean a DJ has has many duties. And there's

(16:57):
different kinds of DJs too, right.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
That's true.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
DJ's there's those you know, there's turntablists that do lots
of tricks and stuff like that. So I don't know,
and a lot of times. It depends on on the
on It depends on what you like. I mean, I
like a guy like Hick Capri who can kind of
do all those different things, or a jazzy Jeff who's
very he's very versatile, like he can he can hit

(17:21):
you with the turntabilism, but he's a great party rocker
and you know that that type of stuff. So very true.
Derek Wise, Okay, Dereck Wise, excuse me at Derek Wise
three five two six, He says, got to call you

(17:41):
guys out on this. Dana Ding was a complete carbon
copy of slick Rick. Okay, Now I'm gonna let you
respond to that.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
Well, yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
We're obviously there's a personal connection here.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
Now is that a personal connection?

Speaker 2 (17:59):
That is that I got his things wrong? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (18:04):
You got to know the history, like he doesn't know,
and I can't fault him for that, but a lot
of people don't know that. Dana, Dane, slick Rick and
two other gentlemen by the name of Lance and Omega.
They were part of a group before Slickwrick was known
called the Kango Crew. And what their theme was, their style,
their swag was was the Kangos Bally's and just about style.

(18:28):
You know about real swag, and that was the original crew.
So when Rick came out for whatever reason, Rick was
separated from that group, did his thing, did it excellently.
And then next was Dana Dane.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
That was I'm sorry, go ahead chronologically who was first?
You know what I mean? I know they were a crew,
but you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
But that's what I was touching on Dane, I mean,
slick Rick. For whatever reason, we could do the research.
We'll have Dana as a guest. He could share that.
But just like things happen with crews, sometimes you have
those opportunities. Sometimes the label will say, you know what,
I'm not interested in that, but I'm interested in him
or them. You know that girls, when I'm interested in

(19:13):
the rest of the group. It happens more often than
people think. We'll find that out. But it wasn't a
matter of a carbon copy at all. This was their style.
This was their signature sound in regards to the style of rapping,
because that's the way they all wrapped as a group.
With Out of our camp Idle makers, we did have
Lance and Omega that were featured on Herbie's What was

(19:36):
the name of that compilation. Herbie came out with Herbie's Machine. Yeah,
it was Herbie's Machine. Where Lance and Omega. If you
hear them and you don't know any better, you'll say
they were biting off of Dana Dane or Slick Rick.
But no, the four of them were all from the
same crew called the Cago Crew. And that's why you
have that and you have those kinds of situations, not

(19:57):
only in this example, other artists as well. You just
never know the origins. Like a lot of people don't know,
you are part of a different crew than Kid and Play.
I was different from Kid and Play, and a series
of events happened in our lives that brought us together.
But think what would have happened if you know that
didn't happen that way and you went solo and I

(20:20):
was left in the mixed streets, in the mean street.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
You know, I don't know. I don't know if our
audience knows this, I was. I was offered to go solo, yeah,
to leave, leave Kid and Play, and I said no,
I will not. I will not. I will not leave
this man. I won't quit you.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
I'm at a lost of words about this, right, now yeah, podcast,
it's a podcast. Stay together, Please stay together? Anyway, moving
on to next on the mic. Uh. You know, we
are still paying attention to what people are asking of
us and engaging in our subject matters from time to time.

(21:07):
I guess they want us to share some stories from
the road.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
Everybody wanted to know what happens on the road because
they think it's going to be some nasty stuff. That's
what I think. That's what they want. Something they were handless.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
Just nasty.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
Ye you will.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
Well, let's let's ask the first thing here is asked
of us. What's the best show? You feel we've ever done?
The bad show, the best show, b e s T.
The bestest show.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Out of the hundreds and hundreds of shows that we've done, like.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
The best show. Yeah, well, if I was the answer that,
it's really I'm so proud of one video we did.
It was called Energy. Was it Simeon Sofa? Who produced that?
Who directed?

Speaker 2 (21:58):
Was the director? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (21:59):
So it is, I ask people, and maybe that's something
that can be put up in posts from that music video.
It's a compilation of us with life on the road,
and it's a very humbling video visually to me because
it shows the enormous amount of crowds, the attendance and

(22:19):
just you know, there's a great music video by bon
Jovi all I'm a Cowboy on a steel horsey Ride,
And there's a part in that music video where he
says I've seen a million faces and I've rocked them all.

(22:40):
And whoever edited that part When he says it, it's
the camera behind him and it's him singing in front
of what looks like a dark arena. But when he
says that line, I've seen a million faces and I've
rocked them all, the lights turn on and you see millions.
This crowd of millions that's all wanted dead, all love

(23:02):
that music video energy captures the magic, the power, the
amount of people we performed in front of. And I
don't have a specific show, but I could say that
music video energy was the bomb. That's what I'm very
proud of.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
Yeah, well, you know what I would I would say
sometimes I think it's in my opinion, sometimes it's not
about the biggest crowd we had, but about the you know,
the impact and the importance of the event. And I'll
go to one of our more recent performances was out

(23:42):
here in Los Angeles Bowl. Yeah, what was the occasion.
It was something that actually had.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
Reggie Reggie Hudling, Yeah, Reggie, it was saluting black it
was saluting black cinema and most.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
Of his learning black music in blacks.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
So it was a star studded event and Reggie Huddling
who directed, and Marcus Miller Miller bass player, famous musicians.
Marcus Miller was the music performed.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
There's so many.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
People, Johnny Gill, Jennifer Holiday.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
Yeah, Gray, that's right.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
I mean I'm just looking, you know. It's hard to
kind of log back, but that was. That was like
a couple of years ago.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
And you don't want to mention what we just did
a Kentucky where the panties got thrown up on the stage.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
No, I do not want to mention. Do not. And
guess what if I'm not mistaken, we identified who threw
those panties up there.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
No, And I didn't want to.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
I think I did know. There was this chick and
I caught I caught a glimpse and she looked at
me like, yeah, I did it. You know I did it.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
Well, I know I picked them up and wanted to
remove them off the thing and Uh, A big shout
out to DJ bro Ram.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
It's still in his possession as a keepsake, so so
we won't include that. A big shout out to Kentucky, Nashville, Kentucky.
We had a great time, you know, went to Nashville
and yeah, Kentucky. I know. I just wanted to give
a shout out to both cities, both states.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
You know.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
The next question would be, is there a show in
particular that made us nervous?

Speaker 2 (25:41):
Uh? Once again going through the uh, the uh, the
rolodex of the hundreds and hundreds of shows, you know,
I would probably attribute it to a show early in
our careers maybe where you know, we were opening for

(26:01):
somebody and trying to prove ourselves and that type of stuff.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
You know what I mean, you know, yeah, that could
be true.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
For me.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
It's nothing, it's oh, it's nothing like going back home.
And it just so happens that with New Yorker. Oh god,
we're dealing with New York.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
You know.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
I would say the first time we did the Apollo, Okay,
I would say that because the Apollo ain't no joke.
We did, we were victorious, it was great, But I
would I would say that when I would say doing
the Apollo, because the first time we did the Apollo,
we weren't kidd and play. We were fresh for us,

(26:43):
and we did a Wednesday what they call Talent Night,
but we weren't. Yeah, we did. We weren't part of
the amateurs or amateur We were to featured group right
that night on Amateur Night, but Amateur Night. So that
was But when we officially did the Apollo, because how
many showtimes appearances did we do? We must have done

(27:05):
like three three showtimes at the Apollo.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
I think it might have been even more than that.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
I wanted to say more. I know we can get. Lately,
they've been on my algorithms on YouTube and all kinds
of stuff that's been popping up, and I didn't request it.
I just saw us doing Oprah where they now something
else just popped up for a couple of Apollo performances.
But I would say the Apollo Theater, New York, Now
the one I was over shout out to Oprah.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
So what I loved you loved you at the DNC.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
The one I really wanted to bring up that I
didn't want to touch on, which you and I dispute about,
is when we perform at the Madison Square Garden with
the what was that one called? It was the Night
of like the bit Oh, it's called the Greatest rap
show ever, That's what it was all. And we had

(27:57):
will Smith mc light I remember it was everyone enemy,
public enemy, and rumor has it that we didn't fare
too well, and I am in denial. Call it, call
it you are in denial. But I wasn't nervous about
that one though. But the Apollo, I would say that one.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
Yeah, no, no, the the Apollo. Anybody that's familiar with
the just the reputation of the Apollo would would have
a little, uh, you know, a little trepidation, a little uh,
you know, start pumping at kool aid if you will.
But you know what, in large part we've had a

(28:39):
great uh, we've had great experiences at the Apollo, be
it showed doing the TV show show Time at the Apollo,
or just doing you know, doing a live show there,
which we've done a lot of them as well. But ye,
Apollo can be very intimidating. You get there and you

(29:00):
know they have the what's that piece of wood? You
got a rub and all this and.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
That the trunk Yeah, yeah, and.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
Then it's Harlem. You know, Harlem is Harlem is tough,
Harlem takes no prisoners. Harlem wants and expects a very
high standard of entertainment for their uh and value for
their for their buck. So yeah, I would, I would,
I would, I would go along with that. Yeah, probably
could make you nervous, but I think once we got

(29:27):
in the groove over there, we you know, we we
we felt a lot more more comfortable. And then years later,
years later, I actually worked on show Time of the
Apollo with when Susanna Pass was producing it, back when
Monique was hosting it. They gave me like a little
segment where I was kind of like men on the streets.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
On the streets. I remember that, I remember that uh
that time that we I don't know if you were
in on it, but we surprised them because you and
I hadn't performed or they hadn't seen this together in
a while. And I remember with the surprise to the audience,
which was like bananas, that we got together and the
crowd went nuts, and of course the anticipation to do

(30:13):
the kickstep, which I messed up on. I remember that.
I remember there there was there was a misstep on
my part. But yeah, that was that was good times.
But yeah, New York in LA all can be the roughest.
Because this is my theory and I think you'll agree
to it. It's something about performing in front of your peers,

(30:33):
more so in LA than in New York. But even
though at that time and still today, most of your
peers entertainers live in New York or they lived a
lot of them in LA, and when it was time
to do LA shows, sometimes you don't want your peers
to be in the front rows. You would rather, you know,

(30:57):
your your everyday supporters. I don't like calling them fans,
but you know what, I mean them to sit there
because they'll show the appreciation. But when you're in front
of your peers, they're like, you know, it's like we just,
especially in hip hop, we're not really interested in giving
it up, you know what I'm saying, even though later
backstage they'll give you your props, but they ain't gonna

(31:19):
show it nine times out of ten publicly, you know.
So in LA it could be kind of rough when
you're performing in front of all of your peers, your friends,
because of that competitive spirit. Sometimes.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
Yeah, I mean back then I would definitely agree. I
think back then it was way more competitive. Now, you know,
we're doing shows with our peers, and you know, people
are just glad to see that. You know, we're all we're.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
All alive, glad to be alive.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
Right, we kind of root for each other now, you
know what I mean. But you can do it.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
You can do that jump over the leg. You can
do that jump over the leg. You can still do it.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
Don't do it, don't do it? All right? All right?
The next the next topic in terms of the memories
from the road is uh or do we have a
do we have a show muscle on moment that that
you remember? And I actually have one, talk about it,

(32:20):
but it didn't happen to me, It happened to you.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
I think we're going to say the same one, but go.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
Ahead, okay, so back in the days, the same one.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
Go ahead.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
So back in the days, there was a point at
which he believe it was in the song do this
my way, UH play with uh let his pants, let
his pants go down to the floor. And what he
had was he had some draws on that had like

(32:57):
a like a they were like tuxedo draws.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
They had like a tie in TUXI yeah, so he
had a.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
Bow tie on his on his junk okay basically, and
you know he would he would, you know, that was
his little moment, you know, play What's stamped? A long
time ago. I was at Trant before the video, you know,
ever ever thrusting in these in the young Lady's basis directly,

(33:24):
I don't remember what. I don't remember what city we
were in, what time we were in.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
But security, remember security failed.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
Yeah, security failed, and somebody reached out into their ah.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
Just I wish they just reached out. They didn't reach out,
they just you could pick it up from here. They
took too many, too many liberties, you know what I'm saying,
They just full grab just they might as well have
been a punch, you know.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
Matter of fact. Not Wait a minute, now, if I
remember correctly, the show didn't go on for you. I
think you ran off to that.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
And all you heard was going on for me. All
you heard was a squeal.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
Like yeah, yeah, yeah, now that I remember now I'm
recalling it. You you wait and you got and you
got to get to the side of the stage with
your pants around your ankles.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
You know, envision that of a few humiliations. Somewhere there's
a tape out there of that or something. Yeah, somewhere
there's footage. What came to mind for me was not
too long ago, but a while ago, I believe it
was the Microsoft Theater and I had pneumonia, and there's

(34:40):
a picture that is out there where you could see like,
I just gave it my all, and there's this real
tender moment pause where you are helping me get off
the stage because you knew it was almost like that
Jordan and pipp pipping Look, you know Scottie Pippen and
Jordan when Jordan had not called so Jordan of m

(35:01):
seeing but that that that you helping me get off
the stage. But we we we got through the show
to the very very end because it was every reason
to be able to say, listen, I can't continue this
because I had I had like pneumonia. It was really
really bad. It was really bad.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
But yeah, yeah, no, I remember that. I remember that show.
And look sometimes we have we have shows like that, uh,
to this day where you know, one of us ain't
got it.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
I mean, given kudos to you not too long ago,
prior to your hip surgery and you didn't know that
you needed hip surgery and for you to sold you
through on well a good three or four shows, at
least two that was you know, we just had we
had to do it. As matter of fact, I think
that was the first time and he didn't play history

(35:51):
that we couldn't do the kid and play Kickstep because
of that. That had to be taken care of.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
Oh yeah, no, it was. It was several. It was
several shows. And it actually included that run that we
had with with in Vegas. Yeah, with with se Lo,
which is.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
Like another yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
Things another another residency and.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
Now and now we don't do it because of me.
But we'll be back, y'all. We will be back. We
will return.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
Let's move forward and get to your one of your
great selections on the playlist.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
Yeah, I'm really feeling this one. And we get a
lot of mail about this, believe it or not. Really,
I'm looking in the corner of my room now by
all the satchelss satchels full of bail.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
You know what other elderly terms can you use? Yeah,
that the pony you have the vote, sir, that the
pony express bed just dropped off. You know what yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
So anyway, it's called the playlist, my playlist?

Speaker 2 (36:56):
Are you free?

Speaker 1 (36:58):
As my hat says here, has i'd be an inspiring filmmaker.
I'm influenced, I'm inspired. I'm encouraged by other content creators
in cinema, in filmmaking, video, all of that, and this
one right here, I wanted to start getting into documentaries
and this one featured actually us, which I had a

(37:18):
ball and was humbled to be asked to be a
part of it. It's called Fresh Dressed. Came out in
twenty fifteen, directed by Sancha I know I'm a messer.
Sancha Jenkins, please forgive me for butchering your name just now.
I always had an issue with that, which is my fault.
Charge it to my head and not my heart. Co

(37:40):
Produced by NAS Salute Queen's Bridge in the Building and
featuring appearances by Kanye West, Pharrell Williams, Swiss Beats, Dame Dash,
Damon John, and so many more. It was a piece
that was featured. I think it came out on Netflix,
but it was. Yes, it wasn't introduced on CNN, but

(38:01):
now you can get it on Netflix. I know I
actually purchased it, not too long ago, but anyway, it's
a piece that gets into hip hop culture's relationship when
it comes to fashion and how we are become trendsetters,
sometimes intentional, most of the time not I know, in
regards to all of these people I just mentioned Kanye West, phenomenal.

(38:24):
Big salute to Pharral with his relationship with Louis Vuittan
Swiss Beats does this thing, Dame Dash, you know, you
know what I'm saying, and it's that that has always
been and continued to be a big thing. It's always about,
as Dame Dash will put it, got to be fresh.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
You know.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
It's a Harlem, a big Harlem thing, but goes for
New York is period. You gotta be fresh, fresh to death.
You know what I'm saying to the very end, and
I'm just, you know, glad that I've been able to
participate unintentionally in regards to certain looks that have taken
on a life of their own from the Salt and
Pepper Jackets and their actual logo kidding plays. Look, Dana Dane,

(39:06):
done stuff for Heavy D, so much stuff for him,
Michael Jordan, and the list goes on. But I want
to recommend that people check this out because it's very informative.
The history is remarkable. There's so many others out there
that deals with fashion as well, but this one I
highly recommend. It's called Fresh Dressed. Came out in twenty fifteen,

(39:27):
directed by my man. Helped me out with that kid,
Sasha Sasha Jenkins, great director that's gone on to do
so many amazing stuff. Salute to him. And that's what's
on the playlist is Fresh Dress.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
Just like Fresh It's like slick Greek record, like back
in the days, Fresh Dressed like a million bucks through
the ballat shoes and the fly green socks.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
That's what's uping.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
Pop will always have that connection with fashion. It's part
of the culture. It's part of the whole vibe. Yeah,
and I appreciate that. All right, So we're gonna all right,
let's move it to my segment that that man, let
me tell you something, you talk about you getting letters. Man,

(40:15):
everybody's sliding up in my d MS. They're sliding up. Pause,
they're sliding up, trying to holler about my segment called
just kidding. We're just kidding, Yeah, say what right? And
this one's a little was a little unique because we
ran across some footage. There was a woman she bought up.

(40:40):
She's trying to get into a concert, okay, to get
into a concert, and I do believe it was a
ride wave concert, which speaking of young artists and whatnot
coming up. Okay, you put it on all black outfit
and outfit excuse me, and she snuck in like as
a member of security, got all the way in you're life. Yeah,

(41:03):
we're looking at the footage now, and gets in through
the metal detectors and all that. And you know it
sounds pretty clever. Yeah, exactly. That's a great word for
a clever innovative. And so it begs the question, and
you know, we can put this out to the audience

(41:25):
as well. Have you ever snuck in somewhere in disguise
or snuck in somewhere you didn't belong or snuck in
somewhere you shouldn't have been type stuff? You know. I
do know that back in the days when like even
before you and I got on, we would we would
get in these clubs that we didn't have any money for. Yep,

(41:48):
we didn't have any business being in. But you know,
you had the gift of God back then, So I
know you would get us in some of these places
that we had no business getting into. And I don't know,
I guess maybe it was you know, maybe we were
young and dumb or young and fearless.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
Well, well that's hip hop. That's one thing I could
say about the relationship with you and other friends, Ron Lawrence,
Jerome Dors, so many others that we can mention. And
you know, when you see these movies called The Brothers
and all these coming of age in particular black films
and stuff, we can pound for pound match those stories.
You know what I'm saying when you look at the

(42:29):
film or the series I mentioned before, the get Down.
The thing that made those movies and stories so great
is we can match pound for pound the antics that
we went through in New York City, whether it's adventures
in the subway system, in the streets on the corner,
getting into the parties, the girls we had to crush on,

(42:50):
all of those things. That brings tears to our eyes
when we reminisce. But I would say, on the flip side,
we can tell of times when we did make it
and people who got in and got into the most
vulnerable and most private places they had no places being
like the bathrooms and catching us if I could be

(43:13):
so graphic on the toilet bowl, sitting on our thrones,
you know what I'm saying, coming being all excited, wanting
an autograph, wanting to take a picture, and here we
all like, yo, can you wait till we finish using
the bathroom? Things like that. I'm sure you remember.

Speaker 2 (43:30):
Oh, no question, no question. Yeah, that's yeah, that's I
guess that's part of that's touring life. That's just part
of you know, being a celebrity life. Be careful where
you poop. People have no people, they don't have a

(43:52):
lot of chill. And you know what I mean, I
don't know, I don't, I don't really, it doesn't really
bother me. It's just like I guess that people feel like,
you know, this is their opportunity to interact with one
of us or both of us, and uh, and they're
you know, they're they're taking their they're taking their shot.

(44:14):
They shooting, they're shooting their shot.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
Well, I have a feeling, based on this story and
the footage that you were showing, I have a feeling
this isn't gonna be the last person who's going to try,
you know, getting.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
That in somewhere. Yeah, I mean well yeah, I actually
I don't blame them. Like these prices, I mean cheese,
These prices are expensive and and apparently the people that
work at these places are really not that thorough. They're
not doing their job that good.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
Well, look at what they get paid. They probably don't
feel it's worth it for them to run into something
it might be unfortunately life threatening for them. So it's like,
you know, hey, whatever, whatever, you know, everybody's trying to
make ends meet. And on that note comes that special
part that make for us to get to this part.
It makes us get to the next show, uh to quicker.

(45:01):
But based on today's show, what would you what did
you learn from today? What did you not know that
you learned something from this show? And mister k I d.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
That's a that's a great question. I'm glad you phrased
it and posed it in that.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
I know where my answer is. I know where mine is.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
We're going, Well, then go please go ahead.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
I didn't know you were offered, uh, to be able
to go out on your own, that's news to.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
Be that was first of all, that's a lie, that's
a story. I just made it up that you gave.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
Me all you gave me all this anxiety throughout this
whole show and come to find out that was a lie.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
But it was a lie. I was just I was
just with you.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
But anyway, with all jokes aside, Yeah, I really am
loving the fact that, you know, listeners are taking the
time out because that's what really counts is when they
engage with us. So it's really cool to hear some
of the people's viewpoints on what we spoke about in
regards to social media and the different platforms and how
it relates and impacts hip hop, you know everybody.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
Yeah, and to your point, yeah that please please tell
the audience you know, we we'll tell them to feel
free to contribute. You know, this is the thing. It's
not just about kid and play. It's about, uh, you know,
the culture, and we all have opinions about it, and

(46:30):
you know, we don't know if anybody's one right or wrong.
We all we all have an opinion that we're all
entitled to and we all feel like we have a
you know, a stake in the game. We've got you know,
we care about it that much. So when Andre three thousand,
who obviously cares about the culture speaks on something. You know,

(46:51):
we we we feel it's our responsibility to to you know,
get it out there and and discuss. You know, the
only way that we really want don't come together as
if we don't have that interaction and that dialogue. So
we we appreciate you guys participating. Always always like and
subscribe uh to uh to the podcast and you know, uh,

(47:15):
you know what, what do the kids say when you
kind of lock it in so that it kind of
shows up and you and you catch, you know, you
catch every new episode. We got some new episodes, and
we got some guests too. They're coming, they're starting to
return our calls, so we got some guests coming.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
So on that note, love piece and hair grease. Everybody
stay cool, uh, because we know it's hot out there,
but uh and it's almost time for people to return
back to school soon if not already, but anyway, everybody
be safe. We look forward to seeing y'all in the
next episode. It's Kid and Play and Welcome to the Funhouse.
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