April 17, 2022 • 31 mins
In this almost final episode of The Glitch, Dan answers your question about some of the finer points of The Glitch including details of the movie and which Hollywood A-lister that is on the project
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Approache production Episode eight Dinner and some Questions. In this
episode of The Glitch, we're going to give you some
of the juicy details of the new movie deal Dan
is in the middle of. If this news of a
movie is a revelation for you, maybe you should go
back to the first seven episodes to see how the
(00:28):
story's unfolded. It was important for this episode to be
recorded as close to life as possible. It takes place
over a few places, at a high end dinner at
one of Dan's favorite haunts in Sydney and the other
in our studios after what we thought was a fitting
(00:48):
lunch at Nando's. Dan's done a lot of media as
a Glitch podcast was released, but we had a few
false starts. There was some sickness, but he ended up
on the kind of Jackie O Show, the biggest breakfast
radio show in Sydney. How can it be not know
where all the money is?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
How can you not show up as a as an
alert on someone's computer?
Speaker 3 (01:10):
I mean, you know, I'm Dan Saunders, like from One Garader.
I mean, like, imagine the Russian mob gets a hold
of something like that exactly, Like it's insane.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Really, you were.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Doing them a favor, letting them know that, Hey, I've
robbed you guys of all this.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Did you say there's a robbery or like a robin
Hood thing, because you were really robin Hood all your friends.
And note that a few prosecutes made some money out
of that. That's a nice spink like that.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Did you not buy anything like a house or would
that have been too much of a red flat?
Speaker 1 (01:36):
And then he went on to Sunrise, the biggest TV
breakfast show in Australia, But that almost didn't happen. On
the day he was due to appear on Sunrise, floods
hit Queensland.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Water continues to rise. There have been more than six
thousand calls for help and tens of thousands of homes
are expected to go under across the East Coast. This
morning in a rapidly unfolding.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Flood just put our plans back, and then a week
later we got the chance to do Sunrise again. The
reason I bring it up is not to brag, but
to give you another idea of Dan. He lives in
the Barn Bay Hintsland and lots of his mates in
Lizmore and Balina were affected by the floods. They pretty
much lost everything, and Dan wanted to be there for
(02:22):
them because they've always been there for him.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Yeah, for sure. I mean, you know, these these are
friends who you know would stick by you, you know,
sort of thick and thin, and yeah, you want to
do it, do the same thing. You're not just gonna,
you know, sort of just up and leave just when Nah,
you know, the going gets tough, that's for sure. So
but I mean everyone's helping down there. It's not you know,
like me talking about it on here. It's not about
(02:47):
you know, me saying you know, like you know, I
was doing all this help. I was just doing a
little bit, you know, to sort of help out a
few people that you know, I'm very very dear to me. So,
I mean it's just yeah, but on the whole, it's
just a absolute disaster. And like the people of liz
Moor and owner, they're just gonna need, you know, so
much support. Just going forward.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Back in the trendy Sydney restaurant, this was actually a
place that Dan had picked. Now, I have to say
that I was a little nervous about this dinner and drinks. Dan,
as we know, has some expensive tastes and we don't
bank with the N A B. So I was using
real money, my real money.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
Yeah, I think so get.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Uh put up the book.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
When did you order?
Speaker 5 (03:41):
Don't? I don't want it on tape. I mean a
dry spell. I know what I would order?
Speaker 1 (03:51):
What would you? What would you order if you were
ordering here?
Speaker 6 (03:53):
If you if you were just saying, get whatever you want,
I would order.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Of I wouldn't.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
I wouldn't order the most expect expensive.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Thing because someone else is paying or no, no, well
yeah that's too but an Eagle or Champagne six hundred
and ninety five bucks.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
November twenty and eighty.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
There's a revelation. Dan doesn't drink. He's been on a
bit of a dry spell since it all ended. So
on this particular night of celebrating the launch of the
Glitch podcast, while I'm sipping on a glass of cold
cloudy bassavnyon blanc, Dan Saunders is drinking a mocktail. In fact,
he's buzzing. He's had four of them across dinner.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
I'm not a con of sir, but I did work
in a lot of Swiss joints.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Okay, so this is not a product that you having
a card. This is just a product working in.
Speaker 6 (04:54):
We knew, we knew what we were going to buy
when Yeah, we knew what we wanted to try. So
once we got the card, we were like, yeah, okay,
all that stuff that we wanted to try.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
If you were sitting if you were sitting at dinner
and you were paying and the glitch was still happening,
would people say can I have this? Or would that
just order?
Speaker 5 (05:22):
No, everyone just order whatever they want.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Before we get to some hard hitting questions from you,
I wanted to check in with Dan to see how
he's felt bringing all this back up again in the podcast.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
It's just been great because now I can just sort
of now that I put it in in uh, you know,
I've taken it from like we've been back to the
very very stuff. We've covered everything, like it's it's a
complete you know, there's a few stories that you know,
like probably can't make it to the podcast because they're
(05:57):
a bit you know, bit egg on, but it's yeah,
I mean, it's it's been a it's been a great
process because I've been able to just lay everything out
on the table and I'm not asking you to like
me or like the story or anything like that. I
just hope it gives people a laugh and it's entertaining,
(06:19):
Like it's not for me. It's about closure, I guess,
and having a reference to exactly what the story is
without anyone sort of being able to tamp with it.
But what it should be for others is just like
a bit of a you know, just a bit of
a tale. Really. I mean, you listen to it and
go right to lunch, you know, don't worry about it.
(06:40):
It's just I hope it gives people a laugh.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Across the last three episodes, we've asked you to email
questions for Dan. Maybe it was stuff you wanted to
know that we hadn't asked. Maybe it was stuff that
we asked but you weren't happy with the answer before
we get to question one. The podcast has brought the
attention back to Dan and the story, but has also
had an effect on one of his goods and a
(07:06):
guest on the podcast, Remember Evanovana.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he goes to the barber and you know,
he booked in and said, you know, I'm Avano. They
said you weren't in a podcast where yah.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
I think there's a few people around around wang listening
because and I think the people of Wang Like, they
really especially the younger people, they really understand this stuff,
like it's it's not supposed to be a serious story.
It's just it's just like a bit of fun, you know,
so just have a laugh, like when you hear a
story like this, it's not meant to be serious. I mean, yeah,
(07:44):
sure it should be serious for the bank and they
had a massive issue and you know, yeah, sure I
took advantage of it and all that, but it was
mostly just a good time. And that's yeah, that's how
I want the story to be. Just you know, it's
just a representation of good time.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Basically, is Havana getting free haircuts now Wangarata.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
I don't think he's getting free haircuts. He's probably getting
he's probably getting charge double. But yeah, he was just
sort of you messaged me the other day and he's
just like, oh that's you know, it's pretty funny that
sort of people listening. And yeah, he's known as av No.
I don't think anyone knows his last name is just
yeah Evardo And yeah, the glitch yes sort of funny
(08:24):
for him sometimes.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Now let's get to some of your questions. We didn't
give Dan any notice of any of the questions, as
we wanted to make sure he answered them as he
felt pretty much like this podcast has been from episode one,
no polish, just Dan's point of view. This this first
one's one that sort of I had throughout the podcast,
and I know, did I think I've asked it maybe
(08:48):
a couple of times, but I think it's still one
that people want to know more about, right, And so
it's from Michael from New South Wales and he wants
to know was there no sense of being more sensible
with the money? You know, you did lots of partying,
but why not buy property? And like, even if you
had to, even if they took it, the money you
(09:10):
made in the property you could probably keep, couldn't you.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
I didn't know that it was going to go for
four months and I was going to have to be
the one to stop doing it. I thought that it
would get picked up after two weeks or you know,
And then at two weeks I thought, nah, this can't
last any longer than you know, three weeks, and then
(09:36):
it was just you know, so I never I got
to the point where I was so addicted to just
spending the money, and I thought I convinced myself that
I was just going to get caught the next day.
So we had to make each day bigger and better
than the last day. And I had to get it
was very important not to have anything. I could give
(09:59):
things to people I was close to and then they
could have them, but personally, like putting it property in
my name, Like I mean, I think there was another
story about the inside of trading stuff, and like if
I was doing inside of trading and then I started
buying property, like you just think that there's no chance
(10:20):
you'd ever be able to keep it, Like if you
got caught, that's just you'd be better off giving things
to other people in their name. And then if you
give things to five other people, then when it's all over, hey,
maybe three out of the five will sort of, you know, go, oh,
you gave this to me, you know, let's go halves
(10:40):
in it or whatever else.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
You've opened up a question here did that happen?
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Look, I mean it happened to a degree, but it
didn't happen. Yeah, it didn't happen in like I mean,
you know, there's my friends, My friends are rich in
certain parts of Spain. Can I say that, like is that.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Yeah, you just did.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Probably the most accurate description, Like, I mean, I definitely
don't own anything and I never will own anything. But
I don't see that to my detriment. I just see
that as being just part of the course.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
This one is from Isabella. She's also in New South Wales,
and it's an interesting one because because not how I
feel about you and what you've done, but it's an
interesting question all the same. Why did you contact the
current affair? It feels like you just wanted to be famous.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Yeah, I mean I probably don't go into much detail
about exactly why I contacted a current affair.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Did you want to be famous?
Speaker 3 (11:54):
No? No, I didn't want to be famous, but I
thought I did think it would get the attention that
I needed to get in order to get a result,
like some sort of closure. Now. I tried to do
it very very privately at the start, so I went
(12:17):
to the newspaper and I did like I tried to
just call the bank flat out as well. So these
small stories came out where it said, you know, it's
under a police investigation. Now, now I didn't know it was.
It wasn't under a police investigation. When the papers were
printing that it was, so that's all I had to
(12:39):
go off. So I was like, well, if they're gonna
come and get me at some point, because it's a
police investigation, it's a pretty easy one to be honest,
because it was me using the card and it would
have been my photo at the ATMs and all that
sort of thing would have been my photo in the
bank branch when I went in and got you know,
a couple of hundred grand out, So I mean, I
(13:02):
just thought that that would I didn't think that actually
probably air the story. I thought that maybe they'd make
some inquiries and then i'd get picked up before they
actually did the story.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
But it's pretty naive, though, isn't it.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
Well it isn't.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
It isn't because are they serious? Are they serious news
outlet or are they tabloidy? So I think that's the
I think that's the biggest question here because if they're
actually responsible, then they probably just contact the police and
actually just organized for me to go in there and.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Talk to them.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
They were definitely saying privately that they were going to
come and get me, so I sort of just called
their bluff and it turns out it was a bluff
that they were going to come and get me, because
they were never going to come and get me.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Another question, this one's anonymous. How do you live now?
Do you have a job, and where do you get
money from?
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Where do I get money from? Well in there, So
in the years, like after after all happened, I've been
primarily I've been a care so people mental illness and
also another lady who had cancer. I don't really I've
(14:33):
held down jobs around the place, like you know, hospitality
jobs and things like that, but during sort of COVID,
that sort of stuff went away. So I've just been
living with friends just up in northern New South Wales.
And yeah, I mean I don't have a job right now,
but I do.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Are you looking for one? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Absolutely, Like I do.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
I do.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
I do favors for people, so I do, you know,
like I help people out with you know, sort of
cleaning and you know, stuff like that, but I also
help people who have gambling addictions.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
So I work with an.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Organization called Kicking the Punt and I sort of yeah,
in a very you know, not in an official way
like with the government or anything, but I have people
to come and stay who have addiction issues and we
sort of work through them and talk through them. Now
(15:31):
I don't get paid for that, but I also don't
value I don't really value money anymore as a commodity.
Like I have a place to live, it's warm, it's dry.
I contribute to the household, But I don't see earning
(15:51):
money as being like this fantastic thing. I rather sort
of just I basically just put myself out there if people,
you know, if people sort of reach out and they
need a hand, or they need to come and stay,
or you know, yeah, I do all sorts of different things.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Are you looking for a job, and what sort of
job would you do?
Speaker 3 (16:15):
I'm going to be executive producer of a movie. That's
gonna be my next job.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
There's another revelation. We told you Dan was in serious
chats about a movie, and he's finally shared with us
what that means. You've done a couple of zoom calls, right, yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Yeah, well I mean the whole yeah, the whole reason like,
of course, you know, it's good to unpack the whole
story and put it all out there. And but also
because I just got a random EMA from an agent
in the US and he was saying that a guy
(16:53):
named Nicholas Braun wants to talk to me. So I
sort of googled Nicholas Braun and.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
You didn't know who was at that time, and I didn't.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Know who was And yeah, he's his cousin Gregan and
he plays plays a role of cousin Greg in succession.
Speaker 7 (17:09):
Good morning, ah Greg, dreg of alcohol? Uh huh sure,
I'm it's really but yeah, because I think I'll actually
have me a nice glass of rum and coke curry.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Can we bring Greg some coco colap?
Speaker 7 (17:33):
No, it's fine really, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
No no.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
What Greg wants Greg must have. He's a big tall fella,
Nicholas Brawn he is.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Yeah, he's actually tall with me, I think he's yeah,
he's just over two meters and I'm like one ninety
five six, So yeah, yeah, he's a great bloke. I mean,
I didn't, you know, I thought it was a bit
of a joke at the start. I thought it was, yeah,
my mate still in a bit of bit tinless and
the sort of stuff with a fake email and all
that sort of stuff. But yeah, when I saw replied
(18:05):
and said, you know, why don't we have a zoom
that'd be good, and yeah, I thought nothing could come
of it. And then yeah, then sort if they sent
me a zoom link and I was on the zoom
call with Nicholas Braun who was saying that, you know,
he loved my story and he was really keen to
play play me in a movie. And yeah, since then
(18:26):
it's been He's also got a guy by the name
of Andrew Ross Sorkin on board who's co created Billions,
the series Billions in the US. And and also he's
a he's a massive he's probably the biggest financial journalist
in America. So yeah, there's two like sort of pretty
(18:49):
pretty big names who want to make a film. Now
I don't you know, I'm told that they're they're you know,
negotiating film deals at the moment, But in terms of
what that means for me, I've got really no idea.
I mean, it's, yeah, we get paid for that, I
don't think so, Like, it's pretty it's pretty surreal that
(19:10):
you can't you can't actually profit off your off your
crime in Australia. So yeah, I think I think the
extent of it, you know, would be you know, maybe
maybe going to the to the US and and helping
them make it for me. Like if you've listened to
The Glitch, if you like the Glitch, you'd understand by now,
(19:32):
I'm not really in it for the money, Like I'm
more in it just for the good times and the
you know, and the bespoke is experiences basically, you know,
there's just the you know, we're not here, we're only forever.
It's you know, we're visitors to this planet. And I think,
you know, people sort of try and control things too much,
and they think they're you know, like I don't really
(19:53):
have a big ego or anything like that. Like if
they want to make a film, that's great, and I
reckon it'd be a good film because I felt like
I was in a movie the whole time and I
could tell them exactly how I felt and you know,
exactly how it happened and all the rest of it.
And yeah, you know, if we've got a good filmmaker
on board, like a good studio, I'm sure it would
be an awesome film. But yeah, buck, I don't I
(20:17):
have no control over that at all. All I really
control is, you know, what we're doing here basically.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
So I don't really understand the process of making a movie.
I'm guessing you know, these two people Sorcan and Braun,
who are big heavy eaters in Hollywood, they've become attached
to the project.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Yeah, that's right. So they become attached to the project
and then they look for so they're looking for a director.
Now they're also looking for a studio. From what I've
worked out, I'm not you know, I'm not I could
probably you know, pour a better beer than I could,
you know, sort out, you know what, how the movie
gets made. But from what I gather, it's all about
(20:59):
the star, right, So if you've got the star, if
you've got the person who actually wants to play Lee Roll,
that's called bankable. So he's bankable. And then Andrew Ross
Sorkm through his work with Billions and his ongoing sort
of he's got to show and seeing BC called squawk Box,
(21:20):
so he is bankable as well.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
So having those two things in place is probably you know,
seventy five percent of the of the of what you
need to get done to actually have a film finance.
So yeah, I mean it's I really don't know much
more than that. I mean, you know, Nick.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Is now is it.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Nicholas Brown. He's a great guy, and but he works
a lot, you know, so he's got a lot of
things going on. He's got a lot of you know,
agents handling things for him. So you know, I've spoken
to him a couple of times and we've emailed a
few times, but other than that, I don't. Yeah, I
don't really know exactly what's going on.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
That's pretty surreal. Normal Aussie bloke gets on a zoom
call with what he thinks will be one of his
mates pranking him, and instead on the other end of
that call is cousin Greg from Succession or Nick as
Dan now calls him. What would your advice be to
Nicholas Braun playing you.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Look, I reckon he's doing pretty well. I don't reckon
he needs any advice, but I reckon he would just
capture the anxiety perfectly as well. And there's a scene
in Succession where he's sort of he gets given a
new apartment or a new house and he sort of,
you know, jumps around the new house sort of going
(22:47):
how good to this? And I'm like, yeah, I probably
look like that at points, you know, sort of discovering
the you know, the glitch and you know, walking away
from the ATM with a bit of a spring my
step at times. So yeah, I could definitely imagine him
playing it. And we've got we've got a good rapport,
we get on pretty well. So yeah, he's yeah, he's
definitely definitely the front righter for sure.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Okay, another question here, This one's from Phil. Did you
ever tell anyone else that they could do the same
on their card? Like you've worked out this right NAB card.
This is happening every night, Like surely you've got mates
to the bank with the NAB and you go, hey,
you should try this.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
I didn't know anyone else that banked with the NAB
and had a Master card and had a two thousand
dollars limit and the card was maxed, So I think
all those contributing factors would have had to you know,
been the boxes must have had would have had to
have been ticked. We just discovered that my card was
(24:02):
paying out, so we just yeah, my card. I didn't
try and find anyone else who.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Yeah, do you wish you had of or is it
a part of you inquisitively that goes I wonder if
this would work with a Commonwealth Bank card or West
Back or et cetera.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
I mean, I just we just knew what we could do,
and it was it was a case of why mess
it up? You know, so we just keep doing the
same thing every night and it kept working. So it
was like there wasn't any further Oh what if you
know you can do this with this card or that
card or anything that I didn't.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Yeah, I didn't, And.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
I didn't really want to have an open forum on
exactly what I could do because I thought, you know,
like you know, clearly loose lips shifts.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
And you're sharing the wealth too, right, Like it's not
like you keep the money for yourself. You're buying people stuff.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
So fun as the most fun ever, like the most funny.
It is just shouting people stuff.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
This is a question for me as I'm reading through
the questions, that the sort of the one that gets me,
because because you've spoken about a fair bit, how do
you not contact your mum for four months and you know,
and then not asking questions about how where are you now?
Why are you flying around the country world private planes?
(25:21):
How have I not spoken to my son for four months?
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Yeah? I went to I went to see her, but
I made sure it was really sort of low key
when I did. Okay, so so you know, I showed
up for Sunday night dinner, not rock and Gucci, you
know a few times. Yeah, yeah, just dress him in
normal clothes. Left the yeah, left the red Gucci shoes
at home, and yeah, I mean it was I. Yeah,
(25:49):
I didn't want to. I didn't want to show look like,
you know, because she just would have been concerned. She
would have been like, what the hell's going on with
you? You know, like, you know, last I heard you were
working at a bar and wangaratta and now you're you know,
sort of balling around the country like it's yeah, like
I knew how it's gonna look.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
So yeah, and mums see through that shit pretty well, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Yeah, I mean even when I went to see her
and I tried to act like everything was normal, she
was like, oh, you seem different.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
And a final question, which is I think is probably
one we've may have spoken about as well, but I
think someone wants more information about it. It's from a
guy called Brian, and he wants to know have you
attempted to pay back any money? Has the bank or
court chased you, because that's what they do.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Yeah, no, And I think I think.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
It's so you haven't paid back any money.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
No, No, I think I think because I don't own
anything and I haven't really got any money. I think
that's sort of you know, you can't get blood out
of a stone, right. I'm not, I'm not exactly like
you know, I've said before that you know, ah, what's
(27:07):
the use of taking the money if you're going if
you're going to pay it back?
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Now?
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Now, if I ever had, you know, say I had
that amount of money, you know, I'm not complete like
I would you know, and I had to pay it
back or I was told to pay it back, I would.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
You have been told like the court has told you. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
But if I ever had that amount of okay, I mean,
it just seems like it's a you know, hashtag inconceivable
goal at this point. But you know, if I ever
was in the position where I did have the money, yeah,
I mean, and.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
The bank or court hasn't changed yet for it. Or
is it just because you've got nothing?
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Look, I think it's because I've got nothing.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Yeah, Okay, So if something was to hit your account,
they would say so yeah, because yeah, they follow tax
file numbers. They follow everything.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Yeah, like if I if I had any significant amount
of money. Yeah, even if I had even if I
had ten grand I reckon they yeah, take it.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Are you worried about and this is a question just
for me, You worried about talking about this stuff now?
And then? I know you said it's a long times past,
but you're sort of bringing it back up the surface.
There's going to be a movie made. People are going
to start asking questions again. How do you feel about that?
Speaker 5 (28:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Well, I mean, as long as I don't take any money,
I don't think it's going to be a problem. Okay, Yeah,
I mean and whatever. I mean, I know, what's jails? Like?
Who cares? I don't mind go back for a bit. No,
It's like, you know, it was a waste of money
putting me in jail in the first place. Really, I
mean it's like, you know, what's what's the point of that?
It was just you know, I think what would be worse?
(28:35):
It's like stacking you know, stacking chairs of the community
center for like five days a week. How'd be worse
than jail? You know?
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Dan? I asked this question to Evano, and I sort
of want to ask you to what have you learnt
since the glitch, I.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Think I've just learned that everything becomes distorted when there's
money involved, Like it's such a people are so wedded
to it, like it's such a thing in society that
you know. I mean, yeah, of course you need it,
you need some of it, but it's, yeah, it's such
(29:15):
a status thing. And whereas like, you know, I remember
going out for dinner with people, and going out for
dinner with people who've got you know, millions of dollars,
and then going out for people for dinner with people
who've got you know, enough money for dinner. The worth
of people is like just governed by you know, how
much material stuff they've got. And this just couldn't be
(29:36):
further from the truth. I mean, there's people with no
money that I'd rather have dinner with like seven days
a week than people like who just sit there and
just talk about how much they've got and like you know,
speak about you know, different people who you know, don't
have any money, you know, just talk about and beings
come of the earth, like you know, I don't want
to hang around people like that. And let's be honest,
(29:58):
I mean a lot of people with with with cash
you know, do have those views. So it's yeah, I
mean it just taught me to not worry about the
game so much, like, not be constantly sort of standing
there measuring yourself up against this sort of societal stick
that's just you know, it's kind of fake. It's not
(30:19):
really it's not really real. And just you know, make
love and just dance and you know, have a general
great time and you know, don't abuse people and just
treat everyone the same. You know, don't don't be judging
about you know what people. You know, why people are
doing something. I mean, their upbringing could be completely different
(30:41):
to yours. There's so much more to it than just
the money thing. But yeah, I guess that because I
saw I just saw people change and be different to
what they would be in their essence just because of cash.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
In the next episode of The Glitch, we're going to
give you some of the stories that Dan hasn't told yet.
I think that these are the stories that are first
meeting he might have been a bit embarrassed to talk about.
There are, as he puts it, some really cringey stories.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
When I catch up with someone who was actually there
at the time, I get their perspective and then you know,
a whole lot more stories come out. The first thing
I saw was the guy in the wheelchair and the
two girls who Tommy pat kiss Oh, thanks very much
for staying last night. But it looks like there's been
(31:33):
a few items have been removed from the room. The
robes are gone, and you know, most of the towels
are gone, and it looks like the TV has someone's
tried to remove the TV from the wall.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
That's next time on the bleach.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
That's way too crazy. I'm the crazy meter for me.
At that point, I've almost got to keep everything together.
Approache production Episode eight Dinner and some Questions. In this
episode of The Glitch, we're going to give you some
of the juicy details of the new movie deal Dan
is in the middle of. If this news of a
movie is a revelation for you, maybe you should go
back to the first seven episodes to see how the
(00:28):
story's unfolded. It was important for this episode to be
recorded as close to life as possible. It takes place
over a few places, at a high end dinner at
one of Dan's favorite haunts in Sydney and the other
in our studios after what we thought was a fitting
(00:48):
lunch at Nando's. Dan's done a lot of media as
a Glitch podcast was released, but we had a few
false starts. There was some sickness, but he ended up
on the kind of Jackie O Show, the biggest breakfast
radio show in Sydney. How can it be not know
where all the money is?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
How can you not show up as a as an
alert on someone's computer?
Speaker 3 (01:10):
I mean, you know, I'm Dan Saunders, like from One Garader.
I mean, like, imagine the Russian mob gets a hold
of something like that exactly, Like it's insane.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Really, you were.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Doing them a favor, letting them know that, Hey, I've
robbed you guys of all this.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Did you say there's a robbery or like a robin
Hood thing, because you were really robin Hood all your friends.
And note that a few prosecutes made some money out
of that. That's a nice spink like that.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Did you not buy anything like a house or would
that have been too much of a red flat?
Speaker 1 (01:36):
And then he went on to Sunrise, the biggest TV
breakfast show in Australia, But that almost didn't happen. On
the day he was due to appear on Sunrise, floods
hit Queensland.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Water continues to rise. There have been more than six
thousand calls for help and tens of thousands of homes
are expected to go under across the East Coast. This
morning in a rapidly unfolding.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Flood just put our plans back, and then a week
later we got the chance to do Sunrise again. The
reason I bring it up is not to brag, but
to give you another idea of Dan. He lives in
the Barn Bay Hintsland and lots of his mates in
Lizmore and Balina were affected by the floods. They pretty
much lost everything, and Dan wanted to be there for
(02:22):
them because they've always been there for him.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Yeah, for sure. I mean, you know, these these are
friends who you know would stick by you, you know,
sort of thick and thin, and yeah, you want to
do it, do the same thing. You're not just gonna,
you know, sort of just up and leave just when Nah,
you know, the going gets tough, that's for sure. So
but I mean everyone's helping down there. It's not you know,
like me talking about it on here. It's not about
(02:47):
you know, me saying you know, like you know, I
was doing all this help. I was just doing a
little bit, you know, to sort of help out a
few people that you know, I'm very very dear to me. So,
I mean it's just yeah, but on the whole, it's
just a absolute disaster. And like the people of liz
Moor and owner, they're just gonna need, you know, so
much support. Just going forward.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Back in the trendy Sydney restaurant, this was actually a
place that Dan had picked. Now, I have to say
that I was a little nervous about this dinner and drinks. Dan,
as we know, has some expensive tastes and we don't
bank with the N A B. So I was using
real money, my real money.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
Yeah, I think so get.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Uh put up the book.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
When did you order?
Speaker 5 (03:41):
Don't? I don't want it on tape. I mean a
dry spell. I know what I would order?
Speaker 1 (03:51):
What would you? What would you order if you were
ordering here?
Speaker 6 (03:53):
If you if you were just saying, get whatever you want,
I would order.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Of I wouldn't.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
I wouldn't order the most expect expensive.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Thing because someone else is paying or no, no, well
yeah that's too but an Eagle or Champagne six hundred
and ninety five bucks.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
November twenty and eighty.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
There's a revelation. Dan doesn't drink. He's been on a
bit of a dry spell since it all ended. So
on this particular night of celebrating the launch of the
Glitch podcast, while I'm sipping on a glass of cold
cloudy bassavnyon blanc, Dan Saunders is drinking a mocktail. In fact,
he's buzzing. He's had four of them across dinner.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
I'm not a con of sir, but I did work
in a lot of Swiss joints.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Okay, so this is not a product that you having
a card. This is just a product working in.
Speaker 6 (04:54):
We knew, we knew what we were going to buy
when Yeah, we knew what we wanted to try. So
once we got the card, we were like, yeah, okay,
all that stuff that we wanted to try.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
If you were sitting if you were sitting at dinner
and you were paying and the glitch was still happening,
would people say can I have this? Or would that
just order?
Speaker 5 (05:22):
No, everyone just order whatever they want.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Before we get to some hard hitting questions from you,
I wanted to check in with Dan to see how
he's felt bringing all this back up again in the podcast.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
It's just been great because now I can just sort
of now that I put it in in uh, you know,
I've taken it from like we've been back to the
very very stuff. We've covered everything, like it's it's a
complete you know, there's a few stories that you know,
like probably can't make it to the podcast because they're
(05:57):
a bit you know, bit egg on, but it's yeah,
I mean, it's it's been a it's been a great
process because I've been able to just lay everything out
on the table and I'm not asking you to like
me or like the story or anything like that. I
just hope it gives people a laugh and it's entertaining,
(06:19):
Like it's not for me. It's about closure, I guess,
and having a reference to exactly what the story is
without anyone sort of being able to tamp with it.
But what it should be for others is just like
a bit of a you know, just a bit of
a tale. Really. I mean, you listen to it and
go right to lunch, you know, don't worry about it.
(06:40):
It's just I hope it gives people a laugh.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Across the last three episodes, we've asked you to email
questions for Dan. Maybe it was stuff you wanted to
know that we hadn't asked. Maybe it was stuff that
we asked but you weren't happy with the answer before
we get to question one. The podcast has brought the
attention back to Dan and the story, but has also
had an effect on one of his goods and a
(07:06):
guest on the podcast, Remember Evanovana.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he goes to the barber and you know,
he booked in and said, you know, I'm Avano. They
said you weren't in a podcast where yah.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
I think there's a few people around around wang listening
because and I think the people of Wang Like, they
really especially the younger people, they really understand this stuff,
like it's it's not supposed to be a serious story.
It's just it's just like a bit of fun, you know,
so just have a laugh, like when you hear a
story like this, it's not meant to be serious. I mean, yeah,
(07:44):
sure it should be serious for the bank and they
had a massive issue and you know, yeah, sure I
took advantage of it and all that, but it was
mostly just a good time. And that's yeah, that's how
I want the story to be. Just you know, it's
just a representation of good time.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Basically, is Havana getting free haircuts now Wangarata.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
I don't think he's getting free haircuts. He's probably getting
he's probably getting charge double. But yeah, he was just
sort of you messaged me the other day and he's
just like, oh that's you know, it's pretty funny that
sort of people listening. And yeah, he's known as av No.
I don't think anyone knows his last name is just
yeah Evardo And yeah, the glitch yes sort of funny
(08:24):
for him sometimes.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Now let's get to some of your questions. We didn't
give Dan any notice of any of the questions, as
we wanted to make sure he answered them as he
felt pretty much like this podcast has been from episode one,
no polish, just Dan's point of view. This this first
one's one that sort of I had throughout the podcast,
and I know, did I think I've asked it maybe
(08:48):
a couple of times, but I think it's still one
that people want to know more about, right, And so
it's from Michael from New South Wales and he wants
to know was there no sense of being more sensible
with the money? You know, you did lots of partying,
but why not buy property? And like, even if you
had to, even if they took it, the money you
(09:10):
made in the property you could probably keep, couldn't you.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
I didn't know that it was going to go for
four months and I was going to have to be
the one to stop doing it. I thought that it
would get picked up after two weeks or you know,
And then at two weeks I thought, nah, this can't
last any longer than you know, three weeks, and then
(09:36):
it was just you know, so I never I got
to the point where I was so addicted to just
spending the money, and I thought I convinced myself that
I was just going to get caught the next day.
So we had to make each day bigger and better
than the last day. And I had to get it
was very important not to have anything. I could give
(09:59):
things to people I was close to and then they
could have them, but personally, like putting it property in
my name, Like I mean, I think there was another
story about the inside of trading stuff, and like if
I was doing inside of trading and then I started
buying property, like you just think that there's no chance
(10:20):
you'd ever be able to keep it, Like if you
got caught, that's just you'd be better off giving things
to other people in their name. And then if you
give things to five other people, then when it's all over, hey,
maybe three out of the five will sort of, you know, go, oh,
you gave this to me, you know, let's go halves
(10:40):
in it or whatever else.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
You've opened up a question here did that happen?
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Look, I mean it happened to a degree, but it
didn't happen. Yeah, it didn't happen in like I mean,
you know, there's my friends, My friends are rich in
certain parts of Spain. Can I say that, like is that.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Yeah, you just did.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Probably the most accurate description, Like, I mean, I definitely
don't own anything and I never will own anything. But
I don't see that to my detriment. I just see
that as being just part of the course.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
This one is from Isabella. She's also in New South Wales,
and it's an interesting one because because not how I
feel about you and what you've done, but it's an
interesting question all the same. Why did you contact the
current affair? It feels like you just wanted to be famous.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Yeah, I mean I probably don't go into much detail
about exactly why I contacted a current affair.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Did you want to be famous?
Speaker 3 (11:54):
No? No, I didn't want to be famous, but I
thought I did think it would get the attention that
I needed to get in order to get a result,
like some sort of closure. Now. I tried to do
it very very privately at the start, so I went
(12:17):
to the newspaper and I did like I tried to
just call the bank flat out as well. So these
small stories came out where it said, you know, it's
under a police investigation. Now, now I didn't know it was.
It wasn't under a police investigation. When the papers were
printing that it was, so that's all I had to
(12:39):
go off. So I was like, well, if they're gonna
come and get me at some point, because it's a
police investigation, it's a pretty easy one to be honest,
because it was me using the card and it would
have been my photo at the ATMs and all that
sort of thing would have been my photo in the
bank branch when I went in and got you know,
a couple of hundred grand out, So I mean, I
(13:02):
just thought that that would I didn't think that actually
probably air the story. I thought that maybe they'd make
some inquiries and then i'd get picked up before they
actually did the story.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
But it's pretty naive, though, isn't it.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
Well it isn't.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
It isn't because are they serious? Are they serious news
outlet or are they tabloidy? So I think that's the
I think that's the biggest question here because if they're
actually responsible, then they probably just contact the police and
actually just organized for me to go in there and.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Talk to them.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
They were definitely saying privately that they were going to
come and get me, so I sort of just called
their bluff and it turns out it was a bluff
that they were going to come and get me, because
they were never going to come and get me.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Another question, this one's anonymous. How do you live now?
Do you have a job, and where do you get
money from?
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Where do I get money from? Well in there, So
in the years, like after after all happened, I've been
primarily I've been a care so people mental illness and
also another lady who had cancer. I don't really I've
(14:33):
held down jobs around the place, like you know, hospitality
jobs and things like that, but during sort of COVID,
that sort of stuff went away. So I've just been
living with friends just up in northern New South Wales.
And yeah, I mean I don't have a job right now,
but I do.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Are you looking for one? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Absolutely, Like I do.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
I do.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
I do favors for people, so I do, you know,
like I help people out with you know, sort of
cleaning and you know, stuff like that, but I also
help people who have gambling addictions.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
So I work with an.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Organization called Kicking the Punt and I sort of yeah,
in a very you know, not in an official way
like with the government or anything, but I have people
to come and stay who have addiction issues and we
sort of work through them and talk through them. Now
(15:31):
I don't get paid for that, but I also don't
value I don't really value money anymore as a commodity.
Like I have a place to live, it's warm, it's dry.
I contribute to the household, But I don't see earning
(15:51):
money as being like this fantastic thing. I rather sort
of just I basically just put myself out there if people,
you know, if people sort of reach out and they
need a hand, or they need to come and stay,
or you know, yeah, I do all sorts of different things.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Are you looking for a job, and what sort of
job would you do?
Speaker 3 (16:15):
I'm going to be executive producer of a movie. That's
gonna be my next job.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
There's another revelation. We told you Dan was in serious
chats about a movie, and he's finally shared with us
what that means. You've done a couple of zoom calls, right, yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Yeah, well I mean the whole yeah, the whole reason like,
of course, you know, it's good to unpack the whole
story and put it all out there. And but also
because I just got a random EMA from an agent
in the US and he was saying that a guy
(16:53):
named Nicholas Braun wants to talk to me. So I
sort of googled Nicholas Braun and.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
You didn't know who was at that time, and I didn't.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Know who was And yeah, he's his cousin Gregan and
he plays plays a role of cousin Greg in succession.
Speaker 7 (17:09):
Good morning, ah Greg, dreg of alcohol? Uh huh sure,
I'm it's really but yeah, because I think I'll actually
have me a nice glass of rum and coke curry.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Can we bring Greg some coco colap?
Speaker 7 (17:33):
No, it's fine really, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
No no.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
What Greg wants Greg must have. He's a big tall fella,
Nicholas Brawn he is.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Yeah, he's actually tall with me, I think he's yeah,
he's just over two meters and I'm like one ninety
five six, So yeah, yeah, he's a great bloke. I mean,
I didn't, you know, I thought it was a bit
of a joke at the start. I thought it was, yeah,
my mate still in a bit of bit tinless and
the sort of stuff with a fake email and all
that sort of stuff. But yeah, when I saw replied
(18:05):
and said, you know, why don't we have a zoom
that'd be good, and yeah, I thought nothing could come
of it. And then yeah, then sort if they sent
me a zoom link and I was on the zoom
call with Nicholas Braun who was saying that, you know,
he loved my story and he was really keen to
play play me in a movie. And yeah, since then
(18:26):
it's been He's also got a guy by the name
of Andrew Ross Sorkin on board who's co created Billions,
the series Billions in the US. And and also he's
a he's a massive he's probably the biggest financial journalist
in America. So yeah, there's two like sort of pretty
(18:49):
pretty big names who want to make a film. Now
I don't you know, I'm told that they're they're you know,
negotiating film deals at the moment, But in terms of
what that means for me, I've got really no idea.
I mean, it's, yeah, we get paid for that, I
don't think so, Like, it's pretty it's pretty surreal that
(19:10):
you can't you can't actually profit off your off your
crime in Australia. So yeah, I think I think the
extent of it, you know, would be you know, maybe
maybe going to the to the US and and helping
them make it for me. Like if you've listened to
The Glitch, if you like the Glitch, you'd understand by now,
(19:32):
I'm not really in it for the money, Like I'm
more in it just for the good times and the
you know, and the bespoke is experiences basically, you know,
there's just the you know, we're not here, we're only forever.
It's you know, we're visitors to this planet. And I think,
you know, people sort of try and control things too much,
and they think they're you know, like I don't really
(19:53):
have a big ego or anything like that. Like if
they want to make a film, that's great, and I
reckon it'd be a good film because I felt like
I was in a movie the whole time and I
could tell them exactly how I felt and you know,
exactly how it happened and all the rest of it.
And yeah, you know, if we've got a good filmmaker
on board, like a good studio, I'm sure it would
be an awesome film. But yeah, buck, I don't I
(20:17):
have no control over that at all. All I really
control is, you know, what we're doing here basically.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
So I don't really understand the process of making a movie.
I'm guessing you know, these two people Sorcan and Braun,
who are big heavy eaters in Hollywood, they've become attached
to the project.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Yeah, that's right. So they become attached to the project
and then they look for so they're looking for a director.
Now they're also looking for a studio. From what I've
worked out, I'm not you know, I'm not I could
probably you know, pour a better beer than I could,
you know, sort out, you know what, how the movie
gets made. But from what I gather, it's all about
(20:59):
the star, right, So if you've got the star, if
you've got the person who actually wants to play Lee Roll,
that's called bankable. So he's bankable. And then Andrew Ross
Sorkm through his work with Billions and his ongoing sort
of he's got to show and seeing BC called squawk Box,
(21:20):
so he is bankable as well.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
So having those two things in place is probably you know,
seventy five percent of the of the of what you
need to get done to actually have a film finance.
So yeah, I mean it's I really don't know much
more than that. I mean, you know, Nick.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Is now is it.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Nicholas Brown. He's a great guy, and but he works
a lot, you know, so he's got a lot of
things going on. He's got a lot of you know,
agents handling things for him. So you know, I've spoken
to him a couple of times and we've emailed a
few times, but other than that, I don't. Yeah, I
don't really know exactly what's going on.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
That's pretty surreal. Normal Aussie bloke gets on a zoom
call with what he thinks will be one of his
mates pranking him, and instead on the other end of
that call is cousin Greg from Succession or Nick as
Dan now calls him. What would your advice be to
Nicholas Braun playing you.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Look, I reckon he's doing pretty well. I don't reckon
he needs any advice, but I reckon he would just
capture the anxiety perfectly as well. And there's a scene
in Succession where he's sort of he gets given a
new apartment or a new house and he sort of,
you know, jumps around the new house sort of going
(22:47):
how good to this? And I'm like, yeah, I probably
look like that at points, you know, sort of discovering
the you know, the glitch and you know, walking away
from the ATM with a bit of a spring my
step at times. So yeah, I could definitely imagine him
playing it. And we've got we've got a good rapport,
we get on pretty well. So yeah, he's yeah, he's
definitely definitely the front righter for sure.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Okay, another question here, This one's from Phil. Did you
ever tell anyone else that they could do the same
on their card? Like you've worked out this right NAB card.
This is happening every night, Like surely you've got mates
to the bank with the NAB and you go, hey,
you should try this.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
I didn't know anyone else that banked with the NAB
and had a Master card and had a two thousand
dollars limit and the card was maxed, So I think
all those contributing factors would have had to you know,
been the boxes must have had would have had to
have been ticked. We just discovered that my card was
(24:02):
paying out, so we just yeah, my card. I didn't
try and find anyone else who.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Yeah, do you wish you had of or is it
a part of you inquisitively that goes I wonder if
this would work with a Commonwealth Bank card or West
Back or et cetera.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
I mean, I just we just knew what we could do,
and it was it was a case of why mess
it up? You know, so we just keep doing the
same thing every night and it kept working. So it
was like there wasn't any further Oh what if you
know you can do this with this card or that
card or anything that I didn't.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Yeah, I didn't, And.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
I didn't really want to have an open forum on
exactly what I could do because I thought, you know,
like you know, clearly loose lips shifts.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
And you're sharing the wealth too, right, Like it's not
like you keep the money for yourself. You're buying people stuff.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
So fun as the most fun ever, like the most funny.
It is just shouting people stuff.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
This is a question for me as I'm reading through
the questions, that the sort of the one that gets me,
because because you've spoken about a fair bit, how do
you not contact your mum for four months and you know,
and then not asking questions about how where are you now?
Why are you flying around the country world private planes?
(25:21):
How have I not spoken to my son for four months?
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Yeah? I went to I went to see her, but
I made sure it was really sort of low key
when I did. Okay, so so you know, I showed
up for Sunday night dinner, not rock and Gucci, you
know a few times. Yeah, yeah, just dress him in
normal clothes. Left the yeah, left the red Gucci shoes
at home, and yeah, I mean it was I. Yeah,
(25:49):
I didn't want to. I didn't want to show look like,
you know, because she just would have been concerned. She
would have been like, what the hell's going on with
you? You know, like, you know, last I heard you were
working at a bar and wangaratta and now you're you know,
sort of balling around the country like it's yeah, like
I knew how it's gonna look.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
So yeah, and mums see through that shit pretty well, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Yeah, I mean even when I went to see her
and I tried to act like everything was normal, she
was like, oh, you seem different.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
And a final question, which is I think is probably
one we've may have spoken about as well, but I
think someone wants more information about it. It's from a
guy called Brian, and he wants to know have you
attempted to pay back any money? Has the bank or
court chased you, because that's what they do.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Yeah, no, And I think I think.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
It's so you haven't paid back any money.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
No, No, I think I think because I don't own
anything and I haven't really got any money. I think
that's sort of you know, you can't get blood out
of a stone, right. I'm not, I'm not exactly like
you know, I've said before that you know, ah, what's
(27:07):
the use of taking the money if you're going if
you're going to pay it back?
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Now?
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Now, if I ever had, you know, say I had
that amount of money, you know, I'm not complete like
I would you know, and I had to pay it
back or I was told to pay it back, I would.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
You have been told like the court has told you. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
But if I ever had that amount of okay, I mean,
it just seems like it's a you know, hashtag inconceivable
goal at this point. But you know, if I ever
was in the position where I did have the money, yeah,
I mean, and.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
The bank or court hasn't changed yet for it. Or
is it just because you've got nothing?
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Look, I think it's because I've got nothing.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Yeah, Okay, So if something was to hit your account,
they would say so yeah, because yeah, they follow tax
file numbers. They follow everything.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Yeah, like if I if I had any significant amount
of money. Yeah, even if I had even if I
had ten grand I reckon they yeah, take it.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Are you worried about and this is a question just
for me, You worried about talking about this stuff now?
And then? I know you said it's a long times past,
but you're sort of bringing it back up the surface.
There's going to be a movie made. People are going
to start asking questions again. How do you feel about that?
Speaker 5 (28:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Well, I mean, as long as I don't take any money,
I don't think it's going to be a problem. Okay, Yeah,
I mean and whatever. I mean, I know, what's jails? Like?
Who cares? I don't mind go back for a bit. No,
It's like, you know, it was a waste of money
putting me in jail in the first place. Really, I
mean it's like, you know, what's what's the point of that?
It was just you know, I think what would be worse?
(28:35):
It's like stacking you know, stacking chairs of the community
center for like five days a week. How'd be worse
than jail? You know?
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Dan? I asked this question to Evano, and I sort
of want to ask you to what have you learnt
since the glitch, I.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Think I've just learned that everything becomes distorted when there's
money involved, Like it's such a people are so wedded
to it, like it's such a thing in society that
you know. I mean, yeah, of course you need it,
you need some of it, but it's, yeah, it's such
(29:15):
a status thing. And whereas like, you know, I remember
going out for dinner with people, and going out for
dinner with people who've got you know, millions of dollars,
and then going out for people for dinner with people
who've got you know, enough money for dinner. The worth
of people is like just governed by you know, how
much material stuff they've got. And this just couldn't be
(29:36):
further from the truth. I mean, there's people with no
money that I'd rather have dinner with like seven days
a week than people like who just sit there and
just talk about how much they've got and like you know,
speak about you know, different people who you know, don't
have any money, you know, just talk about and beings
come of the earth, like you know, I don't want
to hang around people like that. And let's be honest,
(29:58):
I mean a lot of people with with with cash
you know, do have those views. So it's yeah, I
mean it just taught me to not worry about the
game so much, like, not be constantly sort of standing
there measuring yourself up against this sort of societal stick
that's just you know, it's kind of fake. It's not
(30:19):
really it's not really real. And just you know, make
love and just dance and you know, have a general
great time and you know, don't abuse people and just
treat everyone the same. You know, don't don't be judging
about you know what people. You know, why people are
doing something. I mean, their upbringing could be completely different
(30:41):
to yours. There's so much more to it than just
the money thing. But yeah, I guess that because I
saw I just saw people change and be different to
what they would be in their essence just because of cash.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
In the next episode of The Glitch, we're going to
give you some of the stories that Dan hasn't told yet.
I think that these are the stories that are first
meeting he might have been a bit embarrassed to talk about.
There are, as he puts it, some really cringey stories.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
When I catch up with someone who was actually there
at the time, I get their perspective and then you know,
a whole lot more stories come out. The first thing
I saw was the guy in the wheelchair and the
two girls who Tommy pat kiss Oh, thanks very much
for staying last night. But it looks like there's been
(31:33):
a few items have been removed from the room. The
robes are gone, and you know, most of the towels
are gone, and it looks like the TV has someone's
tried to remove the TV from the wall.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
That's next time on the bleach.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
That's way too crazy. I'm the crazy meter for me.
At that point, I've almost got to keep everything together.
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