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June 20, 2025 23 mins

The German leader and EU commission president were quick to back Israel as the conflict began with Iran. The EU has since called for de-escalation, reflecting growing anxiety over what might happen next. So what's the thinking in European capitals? And how much influence does Europe really have?

In this episode: 

  • Pieter Cleppe, Editor-in-Chief, BrusselsReport.eu.
  • Steven Erlanger, Chief Diplomatic Correspondent in Europe, New York Times.
  • Ellie Geranmayeh, Deputy Director of MENA Programme, European Council on Foreign Relations.

Host: Neave Barker 

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