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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
One of our listeners, my guy Jamal all right, shout
out Dreamial. He sent me this on Instagram and my
DMS a little while ago. It's a FanDuel sportsbook post.
It asked the question, all right, well, it's less of
a I guess it's a question. It says you get
twenty million dollars, but Derrick Henry has to randomly truck
you once a month for the rest of your life.
Are you taking the money? Twenty million cash, but once
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a month, every month for the rest of your life
out of nowhere, Derrick Henry is just gonna Tarry Tate
office linebacker. You're asked, you said twenty million a month, right, No, No, No,
twenty million total. Now you get a one time cash payment,
tax free twenty million dollars and that's it. But for
the rest of your natural born life, Derrick Henry gets
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to come out of nowhere and declete you or a least.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Attempted to subtract the medical calls that it would be.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Yeah, I think I'd take it, just because I know
he's older than me.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
If you invest you that's a good point too. If
you invest that money properly, then the interest should cover
your medical bills every year.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
True. True.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
The flip side, though, is you might end up with CTE.
So I want to throw that out. Yeah, no, FanDuel
text line. I'm sorry, FanDuel sportsbook, but both are appropriate.
You get twenty million dollars cash, but Derek Henry gets
to absolutely demolish you once a month for the rest
of your life. Well, there's a guy on the phone
line who I think is better equipped to withstand that
than pretty much anybody in this conversation. Al Wallace, former
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Carolina Panthers defensive end, is back with us for the
first time in a while on the hotline for a
Tuesday conversation. Al Wallace, twenty million cash, but Derek Henry's
coming out of nowhere once a month. You're taking it?
Speaker 1 (01:34):
No, sir, have you seen that? That's an alien? No,
that's not enough cash.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
What would the price tag be?
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Man a hundred million when I was twenty one. I'm
fifty one now.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
No, shot Man, that's gonna hurt. That's not good enough.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yeah, I'd probably take it, knowing he'd kill me by
week by month three. But my kids have a nice
little nest egg when I'm dead and gone. So all right, Well,
get in truck. That's about how Panthers fans feel el
roughly four o'clock Sunday afternoon, really ugly opener down in Jacksonville.
You've been a part of a lot of good and
a lot of bad in your career. The NFL is hard,
but this one was different.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Al.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
I think you and I both agree on that, because
this team finished strong last year, and the offense had
high hopes, and they spent a ton of money on
the defensive line. But unfortunately it looked like more of
the same, didn't it.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yeah, And you know what, I think a lot of
teams feel a little just struck, you know, this first
game of the season because of the expectations and the
high hopes are always there for all the franchises, but
for this team, coming off the way that the season
ended with Bryce Young and the success that running game,
and then all the additions in their offseason, with the
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defensive tackles and the return of Derek Brown, you were
hoping for a better performance. And for me, the word
that comes to mind is just disappointing. It was disappointing.
I'm a little bit confused with the team, and then
the way they look and just the lack of energy.
It just didn't look like a game one, like guys
were starving, like they were hungry dogs waiting to go
out there and take on the Jags in their building.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Well, and the thing is that we often get back
to this conversation of is it more lack of execution
or more on coaching or lack of preparedness. You know,
I've been particularly hard on the coaching staff this week
because I didn't feel like that team came out prepared.
I thought they were too disorganized, multiple timeouts before the
play clock could expire, having a hard time getting the
play call in, running the play clock down to nearly
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one second on the clock every single play outside of
I think two drives where they went hurry up and
some tempo. Like I look at the coaching staff a
little bit sideways this week coming out of Week one,
not just because your team looked that way out, but
because you lost it to a coaching staff that was
coaching together and making its debut for the first time
in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Yeah, that's the huge question. Why was Dape Canals his
second year staff not more prepared than Liam Cohen in
his staff down in Jacksonville who just got there, just
got all the new pieces. What's the excuse for doing that?
It just feels like there's no sense of urgency for
consecutive training camps right where the starters don't play much.
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There's not a sense of urgency at practice. You are
practicing the practice, but did you practice to get better
or is it enough competitive situations? I'm honestly asking that question.
I went to maybe two or three practices. I'm not
there every day, so I don't know the answer. But
what I do know is when I played in the
NFL preseason meant something. Those rehearsals, those dress rehearsals meant something.
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And if you're bypassing those for the sake of preserving bodies,
you're gonna be behind. You're just now starting with those
the starting group to get the physical part of the
football game going. And you saw a team that went
out there and got out physical. Jacksonville just looked like
they were ready for the contact, and it showed up
on the play the scoreboards.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
So glad you brought up the preseason, because you know
the messaging was very different. Al As you well know,
coming into this season, Dan wanted more prep he wanted
multiple joint practices. We got to practice in the heat
in Houston to get ready for Jacksonville in Week one,
and so we're all thinking, Oh, these starters are going
to play a lot more in the preseason this year,
and then we end up with that speech in Houston
where Dave's like, well, I took them off the field
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because they didn't earn more snaps out there, and everybody
was confused by that. Like with Bryce specifically, I watched
a quarterback on Sunday who certainly looked better than he
did a year ago in the opener against New Orleans,
but not good enough, and he looked very out of rhythm.
It seems to me that the preseason would have been
the right time to get your quarterback in rhythm.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Yeah, that's the perfect time.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
You need to see those receivers come out of breaks.
That offensive line has to have real competition, a real contact.
Those running backs and the receivers have to feel, how
you know, the hits coming to the going to the ground.
So without doing that in the preseason, you're really trying
to ramp up Week one live in action on the field,
and I don't think that's good enough. I'm certainly not
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as qualified as Dave Canalls and my buddy Dan Morgan
as a general manager to make those types of calls.
But what I do know is my experience on the
football field, and it takes a number of reps, a
number of snaps to harden your body to the game,
and if you don't catch up to the speed in
the preseason, it blows your way. We all often talk
about how the intensity ramps up from the regular season
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to the postseason. Well, the same thing happens from preseason
the regular season. The Panthers looked like a team who
they were not prepared. The game was moving too fast
for on Week one.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
I thought Xavier League yet did a lot of damage
to his perception among this fan base and maybe even
internally after Sunday. It wasn't just the lack of a
tow drag. It was the immediate I'm not going to
block in this short yardage situation. Mark Schlareth lit him
up on the broadcast for that. How frustrating is his
start to the season.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Gosh, I wish.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
I had another word for you, And I know I'm
gonna sound like a recording, but it's disappointing. Because all
off season and in the preseason, we see the catches,
We talk about how hard he works, the work he's
put into his body.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
But what really.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Matters is if you're going to go out there and
sell out, sacrifice yourself for your teammates, and on a
short yard run where you're moved in close so you
can block the end man on the line, you don't
get it done. And I was one hundred percent in
agreement with Mark Slaire because it's unacceptable and it's not
just the one play. It is a bunch of stuff
that he's putting on film that's not okay with wide receivers.
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I know wide receiver coaches. Of course, a lot of
guys I've played with they talked about that. I've talked
to him over the last twenty four hours, and they
just don't understand a guy who looks the part but
doesn't play the part. For me, it's just so confusing,
And yeah, that's that doesn't help with the narrative that's
been going on since he got here, especially coming off
of a really underwhelming season in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
What were your thoughts on the Adam Feeling trade, Both
the timing of it. They couldn't have known Jalen Kocher
was going to get hurt a week later. But what
was your reaction when they traded Adam feeling, because that's
a big part of this conversation too.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
I think a huge part of Adam playing and we
saw him play in Minnesota last night, it's because that's
where he wanted to be. I don't believe Adam wanted
to be here. He told us that in his own
way when he decided to have the conversation about maybe
I should retire. So if you're Dan Morgan, you're Dave
Canalist as good as he is, as much of a
help as he could have been for Bryson this offense,
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Let's see what we can get for him. Let's start
looking towards the future. So I understand the tough position
that they were in with Adam Thieling. So it was confusing.
And I think even with Jalen Cocher, is he a
difference maker enough in this offense that you're gonna miss him?
Speaker 3 (08:27):
I don't think. So the time is now for t MAC,
the time is now for XL.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
You need some of those other guys to step up,
and we're the hell out of the tight end. That's
how you supplement the loss of Adam Feeling. You get
the tight ends involved. And for the life of me,
for the last two years, I'm just gonna go with
you know, coach here, Coach Canalis.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Here, not the other regimes.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
The tight ends have just not been a.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Part of this offense.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Al.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Al almost called you Al Michaels Al Wallace, former Panthers
defensive end with us here on a Tuesday afternoon. The
defense you are particularly suited to talk about this. Seven
straight games. They've given up two hundred plus yards rushing
in the thirty five games of a zero of Vero
as the defensive coordinator. Twenty six of those thirty five games,
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they've given up at least one hundred and twenty yards rushing.
Some of that we can excuse because of injuries and
lack of talent, but it continues to happen. I've got
people on my text line Al screaming about the three
fours garbage. We got to go back to the four
to three. They got to fire a zero A Vero.
You're a former defender. You know what it takes to
play good defense. When you watch this group. Should they
be better? Why is this happening? What are your thoughts
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on the way of Vero is orchestrating this defense.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
It's the most puzzling thing.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Let me just start with coachyj.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
He's highly respected, he's proved in the in the NFL
that he is a guy that can get it done
at a very high level.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
But right now what we're.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Seeing with the Panthers is a defense that just it
doesn't fit the scheme.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
So as much as people want to point the.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Finger at the three to four, you think it would
be much better if it was a four to three.
I don't know if it's a scheme or personnel or both,
but none of it is looking good. Those statistics are alarming.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
I didn't even know.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
That twenty six times over one hundred and twenty yards.
You go into every Monday meeting and your number one
goal is to stop the run. You can't do anything else.
If you don't stop the run. You don't earn the
right to pass rush, you don't affect the throws from
a quarterback, and you're not gonna get turnovers. When teams
just decide that they can just hand it off and
pound the rock like that. So it's gonna be one
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of those things.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
That you know, people are going to continue to criticize.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
And I think it's a little bit of both. The
three four on its own works. You can see that
with the Pittsburgh Steelers. Go look at the Houston Texans.
All those teams roll out the same type of defense.
Now you look at Kyle, do you have the right personnel?
And I think for years that's been the question for me.
I'm just gonna look at one guy. Is Derek Brown
a three four defensive end? My answer is going to
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be no. Put that guy at nos one technique in
a four to three or the three technique in a
four to three and have him penetry reading reacting. Derek
Brown just takes a little bit away from him when
you saw him at Auburn, when you saw him rip
off one hundred and three tackles, it's because he played
on the other side of the ball. They had one
tackle for loss, zero sacks this past game against one
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of the you know, it was not a very good
offense from last year.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Let me just say that.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
So a lot has to be said with scheming the
guys up in the bed spot. It has nothing to
do with three four or four to three. It's just
not a good defense right now.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
All right, last thing Arizona on Sunday. We can't think
of the last time a Week two game felt this important,
this big toward well a lot of things, but this
does feel like a game where we're gonna find out
what this team's made of, right, I mean, after the
way you opened the season, y'all talked a big game
the team that is of course about improvement this year.
And you know we're going to surprise people and even
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some national media saying nice things about you. If you
can't go out and respond against Arizona, who historically the
Panthers have owned, what does it say about this football team?
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Yeah, it's not gonna be good.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
I mean, weren't we just here go on into Week
two of last year and the whole organization and the
fan base got turned upside down when Bryce Young was benched, Like,
we can't continue to be in this spot. And Arizona's
not going to be a pushover. James Conner is a
really good running back.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
That offensive line.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Is gonna be able to do some damage I think
in the running game. And then oh, by the way,
Kyler Murray is the guy who can move around in
the pocket and escape if things don't get easier for
the Panthers, because coming home, you're gonna have the Atlanta Falcons.
So this is a critical game and it's going to
point at a lot about how quickly this team can
take it on the chin like we saw this weekend
and bounce back. Who's gonna have to fire in their belly.
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Where's the leadership? I think all of that is going
to be the huge question when we see this game kickoff.
The Panthers have to go out and put up a
better showing. They need to win, but it better looked
like a better organized football team and a team that's
putting more.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Effort out on the field.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Al Wallace, great having you back, brother. We appreciate the time.
We'll do it again real soon anytime.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Man, appreciate you