The Kyle Bailey Show: Chip Patterson

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Chip Patterson, CBS Sports, CBS Sports Network and the Cover
three podcast back for his Friday conversation, Chip, Armando Baycott
is back in Our Lives? How do you feel about it?

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Did you see his conversation with Shaquille O'Neill. I did
with Yeah, when Shaq told him that he had to
be mean, you know, and that he was too nice
and kind of challenged him. I mean it was a
you know, like Shaquille O'Neil. Sometimes I don't understand if
like he knows that the mics and cameras are always on,

(00:31):
because it felt like he was really sitting the young
man down and giving him some honest game. And so
if he comes to training camp and he happens to
have a little extra edge and have an edge for
some of the dookies on the squad, I don't know, Man,
this could be a good setup for him.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
I'm pretty pumped about it. I'm not gonna lie. So yeah,
Armando Baycott is a Charlotte Hornet for now. We'll see
if he makes the roster, but I do think his
chances are much better than some people may realize. All right, Chip,
let's go back to college football. Here we were just
talking talking about the Michigan news today that the Michigan
Wolverines program has received a hefty fine of I believe

(01:07):
twenty million dollars and show caused penalties eight years for
Connor Stallion's, ten years for Jim Harbaugh head coach Ron
Morrileby suspended for an additional game sometime in twenty twenty six.
What do you think of it and what message does
this send to the rest of college football?

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Ooh, well, I think a lot of things are kind
of happening right here that are leading to the strong
reaction because I believe, I really do believe this to
be true that if this exact case is heard twelve
years ago, then Michigan as a postseason ban for the future,

(01:45):
Michigan vacates wins, and because of vacating wins has an
impact to their claim to the national championship or at
least a Big Ten championship. You know, we'd have to
get really technical about like which games were impact by
the scouting service, But even in the ncublea's own writing,

(02:06):
they say that, you know, we have shifted the way
that we apply penalties to penalize those who were involved
in the violations and avoid penalizing the student athletes who
had nothing to do with it because and look, and
I think that's right. Like, I think that is the

(02:26):
right approach for the NC DOUBLEA to take with this,
because I saw too many players who arrived at a university,
you know, two years after a case. The way these
NCUABLEA cases go, it takes you two to three years
before you even get the punishment, maybe even longer. Like
I saw like a Louisville basketball team that I remember
it was just you know, playing really well, but they

(02:49):
had to pay for the sins of an entirely different regime.
We've seen football teams have really successful seasons, but then
at the end of the year, they don't get you know,
the opportunity to take that trip to Tampa or the
Bahamas wherever it may be, because of stuff that happens
like totally before they were even a part of the program.

(03:09):
So in general, I think it's the right thing to do.
As much as I can say that for the NC
Double A, if it is going to be handing out
punishments for it, just you know, apply punishments that would
not hurt the players that are there now. But that
is what has Kyle Ohio State fans, Michigan State fans,

(03:32):
Louisville fans, as I mentioned, USC football fans who remember
Reggie Bush. That has a lot of other fan bases
really upset and really disappointed with the end result for
Michigan because it does not seem like it is going
to hurt Michigan the way that it's hurt Big NC
double A violators of the past. That's the disconnect, And Kyle,

(03:54):
I'll be honest, I'm having trouble wrestling with that because
I totally agree if this exact case is that just
happens twelve years ago, we're talking about taking down a
banner and missing a postseason. Now it's twenty five to
thirty million dollars, which, by the way, is like not nothing,
and I don't know how that's gonna be applied. But
even in place with an endowment like Michigan's, I mean,

(04:17):
twenty five to thirty million dollars, it's not there anymore.
That's still that's still I mean, like, look, who knows,
maybe the baseball team's taking the greyhound now, Kyle, you know, like,
I'm sorry about our track squad. We're not gonna be
able to hit up as many of these entry fees.
There's gonna be a lot of different places at Michigan
that are hurt by this. But but yeah, it's really

(04:39):
tough for me to wrestle knowing what the punishments would
have been in another generation, but also feeling like it's
the right thing to do to make that change with punishment.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
I was informed on the text line, I don't know
how reliably that you have a very bold take that
was expressed to Adam gold something about Bill Belichick winning
Coach of the Year. What's that about?

Speaker 2 (04:59):
Yeah, Oh, I mean it's going to be coming out
in a CBS Sports dot Com story the like we
we in our we've got an ACC preview. We're working
on Big twelve preview, like one for every single conference.
When the one for the ACC comes out, there's a
section for bold predictions. We all made bold predictions, and
my bold prediction in there is that he wins ACC

(05:20):
Coach of the Year, which I think would just yeah,
I think it would just require that, uh, North Carolina,
I mean North Carolina goes nine and three. Depending on
what else happens elsewhere, you could end up seeing a
lot of positive momentum from the voters of the voting body.
But look, that's also acknowledging that if the tari Hills
go nine and three, if the Tarios go tennant too,

(05:42):
then yeah, you do have to consider that someone who
hasn't been a coach, like has no connection to college
football outside of drafting college football players and playing college
football at Wesleyan College decades ago. Like if Bill Belichick
does step right into college football, take a team that
is like more than fifty percent strangers, maybe more than

(06:04):
seventy percent strangers, and get them all to pull together
for a nine win season, maybe they're in a ten
win season, then yeah, I think that's the coach of
the Year argument. But you know it gets competitive, Kyle,
when we're asked for bold predictions because we're not submitting
them secretly. This is reply all on a group thread
with talent and rids. You come weak with that, you

(06:27):
will be ridiculed. So know that is the starting point
when I'm thinking bold predictions. But it's a bold prediction
I can stand behind. Okay, all right.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
Chippattersoncbsports dot Com, CBS Sports Network, Cover three podcast. He's
with us on the Bodyworks Plus guest hot line. By
the way, coming up in about forty minutes, we reveal
our top five programs in the Carolina's ranked. I will
withhold my thoughts on Carolina, but I wanted to get
Chip's thoughts on that CHIP Top twenty five, AP Top
twenty five out and time every year we nitpick it,

(06:56):
we argue with certain things. I think you could look
to maybe Illinois at twelve, South Carolina at thirteen, you know,
I know some folks pointed at and I did Indiana
at twenty given all that they lost, and you know,
maybe even Tennessee at twenty four. I don't know how
you could be a big Joey Aguilar believer. But like
when you looked at the AP Top twenty five, anything

(07:16):
stand out to you was particularly egregious?

Speaker 2 (07:19):
Oh ooh, I would just say it's not egregious. I
think that I spend so much time ranking teams and
like thinking about how they stack up against each other,
that something like the AP Top twenty five, especially the
preseason one, is more of like a oh interesting, So
this is what they think, This is what they're believing
right now. I think it starts at the top. The

(07:42):
coaches had Texas one, Ohio State two, Penn State three,
But all three of those schools got first place votes,
and you know, it was just like pretty clear that
Texas was going to be number one. The AP did
Texas number one, Penn State to Ohio State three, And
if you'll look at the first place votes and if
you look at like the ballots of all the voters,

(08:05):
it's it's not a like it's a Texas Penn State comment,
Like I thought this was going to be about Ohio
State and Penn State. No, the AP is all in
on Penn State. The AP is also all in on
Clemson in a way that they're not in the Coach's
poll four in the AP six and the coaches poll a.
Clemson also wund up four at CBS Sports one thirty six.

(08:26):
So now we've got these disagreements. Isn't a battle for
number one? Is Texas the best team in the country
or is the Penn State And also the belief by
some that Penn State's way over inflated by the media narratives,
Like I think that those things are kind of interesting.
Because we had six different teams get first place votes

(08:46):
in the preseason AP pole. We have not had that
since twenty sixteen, So that means we've got like a
real fun debate about how that top tier in the
country is looking. And so you win the ap ways
in all right, cool, that's your opinion in terms of,
like overall the way that it broke down, Like, I
don't have any problem if you want to make arguments

(09:10):
for teams like eighteen through ten, like putting Miami at
the top of that pack is fine, but Miami to
me is definitively at the top of the middle tier,
not at the bottom of the top tier, even though
we call it a top ten normally. So yeah, if
you want to, dude, if you want to make South
Carolina eleven, you wanted to make Illinois eleven, if you

(09:30):
wanted to, you know, shoot your shot with somebody else
there right there, if you wanted to take care of
the state and put them up in those positions like
any of those teams, I could totally see, because you're
really not talking about that much of a difference from
that sort of eleven twelve spot probably all the way
down to I don't know, twenty nine thirty, like that
first handful of teams from other receiving votes like you

(09:52):
mentioned Indiana. I promise you that team is still even
just like talent wise on paper, still good enough to
play at the level last year's team schedules harder, so
they're not going to win eleven games, you know, or
start ten to zero. But what I do think is
that what's happened at Indiana isn't just a one year
thing with Kurt Signetti. They have fundamentally as an institution,

(10:13):
decided to invest in football. And Kurt's not asking them
to be up there with Ohio State and Penn State.
But they've gone from the bottom of the conference to
the top third, and that means that they've been able.
Like Fernando Mendoz as their quarterback, who came from cal
You might remember him. He's a really good player. Roman Hemby,
the leading rusher at Maryland, is now plays at Indiana.
They guy offensive lineman from Notre Dame. You know. They

(10:37):
Indiana is here to stay at least as like a
top forty type program, and it's because they're willing to
invest like it. So I don't have a lot of arguments.
So though I'm very interested to see whether Miami can
capitalize on this preseason top ten ranking, because normally Miami's
that program that starts in the rankings and finishes outside

(10:57):
and we normally give out that distinction every year to
like Miami and Texas A and.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
It love it a chip. Thank you as always, buddy,
have a great weekend. We'll do it again next Friday.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Sounds good. You'll be well,