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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back, acc kickoff here in up town Sports Radio
ninety two to seven wfn Z. Kyle Bailey with you
and having a good time already chatted with Dabosweeney, with
coach Brent Pry Eric McClain coming up in just a
bit as well. We'll get to all that in due time,
but right now NC State fans have been looking forward
to this all day here in the Queen City. We've
got the Wolfpack's head coach, Dave Dorin back with us
(00:20):
here on Radio Row. And I was just telling you
I appreciate you guys still doing this. I've been doing
radio for a long time. I know how much the
fans appreciate these shows in these days, and I don't
think you guys have to do this. So for you
to continue to come out every year and talk to
the fans like this, we appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Yeah, I'm excited to be here, man.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
It's it's a blessing to be a head coach at
a university like NC State, and the coach at this level.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
I told our staff this the other day.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
You know, there's seven point four billion people on our
planet and there's only one head coach at NC State.
You know, there's one hundred and thirty head coaches in
college football Division one, one hundred and thirty line docker coaches,
one hundred and thirty running back coaches, and so on.
So it's a celest group of people that have worked
really hard to be where they're at, and I don't
look at it as anything but an honor and a
(01:05):
blessing to be here.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
That's cool.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Now.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
I was driving in this morning listening to actually our
station talk about you and your team, and they played
a clip of Tom Lougan Bill yesterday saying that you
guys are the team that we really need to be
keeping an eye on. And you know, Phil Steele was
on the station last week and he said, do you
remind it everybody? He said, you know, Dave Dorn't always
bounces back after a little bit of a frustrating year,
And that's true, Like why is that?
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Why?
Speaker 1 (01:26):
What is it about you and your program that you know,
if you do stuff or some frustration, you tend to
pretty much always bounce back.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Yeah, We've had some really good rebound years and I'm
fortunate that I've been in a lot of the opportunity.
Buke Horgan has hung in there with me, I've had
two years that I would consider down years in my tenure.
At the next year we won five more games than
we did the year before, and both both the seasons.
So why I think it starts with me taking ownership
(01:55):
and my part of it. You know, everything starts with
the head coach. When we fail. I failed, and I
have no problem saying that. I know that my responsibility
to these coaches is to create an environment where they
can thrive, for these players, where I can make them
better than they were and hold them accountable in the process.
And it's harder than ever with roster management being what
(02:16):
it is, and so you know, I think people look
at us sometimes an the coach, you've been doing this
thirty one years.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
You ought to know what you're doing. I'm like I do.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
But in the last three years it's changed more than
it has in the previous twenty nine for me, you know,
with roster management. So I'm learning and growing as I go.
But you're looking at a guy that hates losing. Very competitive.
I never want to be called underachiever. It's quite the opposite.
I want to be an overachiever and so I take
that personal and I don't want to let our fans down.
You know, I want those people to go to work
(02:46):
on on Monday and be able to walk around with
some cloud.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Yeah that's cool.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
And again I don't want to overstate it. You haven't
had to bounce back that much. You are the winningest
head coach in program history. What is like, what's the
standard at NC State football? We see mantras and you know,
I know you might break it down an ACC champs sometimes,
but when you're out there either selling recruits or you know,
just doing your thing, like, what is the standard every
single day for NCI State football?
Speaker 3 (03:11):
You know, there's a million ways to answer that question.
I think it starts with our identity. It's yeah, we
call it htt play hard, play tough, and play together,
and we want to be a blue collar, grinder.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Tough, physical football team.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
We want to have extreme energy when we do it,
and we want to pull for each other man.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
It's a family.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
It's a great team sport, and so it comes down
to a ton of different tenants for us, and at
the end of the day, it's about being the very
best family we can be on that football field.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
And here's what makes football unique.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
There's one hundred and twenty five guys in our locker room,
and only eleven of them are playing at once. And
so it's a selfless thing to be on a team
that actually cares for each other and building that is
my greatest challenge every year. It's a different puzzle that
you got to put together. And you know, it all
starts with the simplest thing of all. It's the golden rule.
(04:04):
Treat people the way you want to be treated, you know.
I mean that's what are your team rules? Will all
of them fall into one bucket? It starts right there.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Dave dordanhead football coach NC State wolf Pack, he's with
us here on Radio Row. Right before you came on,
I saw you standing next to CJ.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Bailey.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Yeah, he was a lot of fun to watch down
the stretch last year. I know that you know his
development's ongoing, But how much do you trust him, you know,
to run your offense and what does he mean to
your program?
Speaker 3 (04:28):
I have complete trust in CJ. And there's a lot
of reasons. You know, he's blessed with the talent that
you won.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
At that position.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
He's got size and speed, he sees the game, but
his intangibles, how he was raised the way that he
owns the things that he does wrong. He has no
problem coming up in saying, coach, I screwed that up,
and so we'll talk about it and then how you're
going to do it better, and then he'll tell you,
and he'll do it in front of the team, he'll
(04:55):
do it in front of the media. He has no
problem placing blame on his shoulders. And that's what when
you look at a football program, it's the head coach.
Then it's the quarterback. Even though there's coaches above the quarterback,
those are the two where most of the onus falls.
And so when you have one that's extremely confident in
handling that because it's not pressure, it's it's a blessing
(05:18):
to be in the position that CJ is and he's
earned that. But he does it with such grace, you know,
and his enthusiasm for everything about being in that room.
It's really contagious. It's fun to be around that. And
Jacoby Brissette was that way. He loved everything about football.
He loved training, he loved practice, he loved film, he
(05:39):
loved goofing off with his teammates, he loved holding guys accountable,
and he loved to compete and CJ is a lot
like him.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
How much do you trust the guys in front of
him they're protecting.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
You know, the old line is the most critical part
of your team when it comes to the success of
the offense. I always tell the team this. You know,
five is one five lineman playing as one body. And
when you have guys doing that, your quarterback has more
time to throw, Your receivers have more time to get open,
your running backs have bigger running lanes to get through.
(06:11):
It's a big thing, and I like the depth in
the competition there. But we have some really good returning
experience on the old line. Jakirious Peak, who's over three
hundred pounds now really athletic. We brought in a transfer
t G Anderson from Utah State and he's a really
good football player and excited about Tige. Really good player.
(06:33):
Jalen a center we brought in. We actually played at
Mount Carmel High School in Chicago for Jordan Lynch, my
quarterback at NIU. He's a state champion wrestler. Jordan said
he's the toughest kid he ever coached in his life.
And he transferred to US from Purdue and he's a really,
really steady player at center and just every single play
he's the same guy. You know, Anthony Carter has played
(06:57):
a ton of football for US at guard, and we
have a big competition going on on the other side
at guard Cayman Smith val Ericson. I'm so excited to
see that competition. And then we're developing some young guys
that have gotten a lot better, you know. And then
we brought in a center guard last year or actually
in the midyear, Isaac Sohle Spike. He's probably one of
(07:20):
the most talented freshman alignment I've ever been around. So
I really like our ol line right now and here
at TJ deserves a lot of credit for not only
developing but recruiting some of the guys in that room,
getting them to the point they're at. We're going to
be good upfront. Man, It's going to be a group
that plays really hard.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Love it well.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
I'll let you get out of here on this. As
the head coach, you're coaching players. Sometimes you're coaching coaches, right,
And I know a big storyline is two new coordinators.
I mean, Kurt's not new, right obviously, he was there already,
but like, how much of that are you doing right
now or do you just have that inherent trust already
and you can continue to do what you do every day.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
No, I do trust this, DJ Elliott have done a
long time. Kurt's been with me a long time. As
you mentioned, I have complete trust in both of them.
At the same time, there's certain things that I care
about that I'm going to be vocal, but I don't
micromanage either of them.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
You know, I'm going to go in. I want to
know what they're doing. I want to know why they're
doing it.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
I'm going to give input, and when something looks wonky,
I'm going to ask them about it and just hey,
explain this to me. Why are we doing it this way?
And if I think there's another way to do it,
We're going to have that conversation. And at the end
of the day, I want the coordinator to feel confident
in what he's doing. I've been in their chair and
I understand what it's like when a head coach comes
in and makes you do something that's not a comfortable thing.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
You know.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
I want to make sure we're aligned, just like I
want to be aligned with buke Rgan and I want
to be aligned with our new chancellor. They need to
be aligned with me, and so I understand their position,
and I also understand the value of giving them another
way to look at things.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Dave doorn, a head football coach NC State wolf Pack,
with us here on Radio Row Coach. I always enjoy
catching up there.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Yeah, thanks guys, Go Pack.
Welcome back, acc kickoff here in up town Sports Radio
ninety two to seven wfn Z. Kyle Bailey with you
and having a good time already chatted with Dabosweeney, with
coach Brent Pry Eric McClain coming up in just a
bit as well. We'll get to all that in due time,
but right now NC State fans have been looking forward
to this all day here in the Queen City. We've
got the Wolfpack's head coach, Dave Dorin back with us
(00:20):
here on Radio Row. And I was just telling you
I appreciate you guys still doing this. I've been doing
radio for a long time. I know how much the
fans appreciate these shows in these days, and I don't
think you guys have to do this. So for you
to continue to come out every year and talk to
the fans like this, we appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Yeah, I'm excited to be here, man.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
It's it's a blessing to be a head coach at
a university like NC State, and the coach at this level.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
I told our staff this the other day.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
You know, there's seven point four billion people on our
planet and there's only one head coach at NC State.
You know, there's one hundred and thirty head coaches in
college football Division one, one hundred and thirty line docker coaches,
one hundred and thirty running back coaches, and so on.
So it's a celest group of people that have worked
really hard to be where they're at, and I don't
look at it as anything but an honor and a
(01:05):
blessing to be here.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
That's cool.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Now.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
I was driving in this morning listening to actually our
station talk about you and your team, and they played
a clip of Tom Lougan Bill yesterday saying that you
guys are the team that we really need to be
keeping an eye on. And you know, Phil Steele was
on the station last week and he said, do you
remind it everybody? He said, you know, Dave Dorn't always
bounces back after a little bit of a frustrating year,
And that's true, Like why is that?
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Why?
Speaker 1 (01:26):
What is it about you and your program that you know,
if you do stuff or some frustration, you tend to
pretty much always bounce back.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Yeah, We've had some really good rebound years and I'm
fortunate that I've been in a lot of the opportunity.
Buke Horgan has hung in there with me, I've had
two years that I would consider down years in my tenure.
At the next year we won five more games than
we did the year before, and both both the seasons.
So why I think it starts with me taking ownership
(01:55):
and my part of it. You know, everything starts with
the head coach. When we fail. I failed, and I
have no problem saying that. I know that my responsibility
to these coaches is to create an environment where they
can thrive, for these players, where I can make them
better than they were and hold them accountable in the process.
And it's harder than ever with roster management being what
(02:16):
it is, and so you know, I think people look
at us sometimes an the coach, you've been doing this
thirty one years.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
You ought to know what you're doing. I'm like I do.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
But in the last three years it's changed more than
it has in the previous twenty nine for me, you know,
with roster management. So I'm learning and growing as I go.
But you're looking at a guy that hates losing. Very competitive.
I never want to be called underachiever. It's quite the opposite.
I want to be an overachiever and so I take
that personal and I don't want to let our fans down.
You know, I want those people to go to work
(02:46):
on on Monday and be able to walk around with
some cloud.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Yeah that's cool.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
And again I don't want to overstate it. You haven't
had to bounce back that much. You are the winningest
head coach in program history. What is like, what's the
standard at NC State football? We see mantras and you know,
I know you might break it down an ACC champs sometimes,
but when you're out there either selling recruits or you know,
just doing your thing, like, what is the standard every
single day for NCI State football?
Speaker 3 (03:11):
You know, there's a million ways to answer that question.
I think it starts with our identity. It's yeah, we
call it htt play hard, play tough, and play together,
and we want to be a blue collar, grinder.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Tough, physical football team.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
We want to have extreme energy when we do it,
and we want to pull for each other man.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
It's a family.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
It's a great team sport, and so it comes down
to a ton of different tenants for us, and at
the end of the day, it's about being the very
best family we can be on that football field.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
And here's what makes football unique.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
There's one hundred and twenty five guys in our locker room,
and only eleven of them are playing at once. And
so it's a selfless thing to be on a team
that actually cares for each other and building that is
my greatest challenge every year. It's a different puzzle that
you got to put together. And you know, it all
starts with the simplest thing of all. It's the golden rule.
(04:04):
Treat people the way you want to be treated, you know.
I mean that's what are your team rules? Will all
of them fall into one bucket? It starts right there.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Dave dordanhead football coach NC State wolf Pack, he's with
us here on Radio Row. Right before you came on,
I saw you standing next to CJ.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Bailey.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Yeah, he was a lot of fun to watch down
the stretch last year. I know that you know his
development's ongoing, But how much do you trust him, you know,
to run your offense and what does he mean to
your program?
Speaker 3 (04:28):
I have complete trust in CJ. And there's a lot
of reasons. You know, he's blessed with the talent that
you won.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
At that position.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
He's got size and speed, he sees the game, but
his intangibles, how he was raised the way that he
owns the things that he does wrong. He has no
problem coming up in saying, coach, I screwed that up,
and so we'll talk about it and then how you're
going to do it better, and then he'll tell you,
and he'll do it in front of the team, he'll
(04:55):
do it in front of the media. He has no
problem placing blame on his shoulders. And that's what when
you look at a football program, it's the head coach.
Then it's the quarterback. Even though there's coaches above the quarterback,
those are the two where most of the onus falls.
And so when you have one that's extremely confident in
handling that because it's not pressure, it's it's a blessing
(05:18):
to be in the position that CJ is and he's
earned that. But he does it with such grace, you know,
and his enthusiasm for everything about being in that room.
It's really contagious. It's fun to be around that. And
Jacoby Brissette was that way. He loved everything about football.
He loved training, he loved practice, he loved film, he
(05:39):
loved goofing off with his teammates, he loved holding guys accountable,
and he loved to compete and CJ is a lot
like him.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
How much do you trust the guys in front of
him they're protecting.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
You know, the old line is the most critical part
of your team when it comes to the success of
the offense. I always tell the team this. You know,
five is one five lineman playing as one body. And
when you have guys doing that, your quarterback has more
time to throw, Your receivers have more time to get open,
your running backs have bigger running lanes to get through.
(06:11):
It's a big thing, and I like the depth in
the competition there. But we have some really good returning
experience on the old line. Jakirious Peak, who's over three
hundred pounds now really athletic. We brought in a transfer
t G Anderson from Utah State and he's a really
good football player and excited about Tige. Really good player.
(06:33):
Jalen a center we brought in. We actually played at
Mount Carmel High School in Chicago for Jordan Lynch, my
quarterback at NIU. He's a state champion wrestler. Jordan said
he's the toughest kid he ever coached in his life.
And he transferred to US from Purdue and he's a really,
really steady player at center and just every single play
he's the same guy. You know, Anthony Carter has played
(06:57):
a ton of football for US at guard, and we
have a big competition going on on the other side
at guard Cayman Smith val Ericson. I'm so excited to
see that competition. And then we're developing some young guys
that have gotten a lot better, you know. And then
we brought in a center guard last year or actually
in the midyear, Isaac Sohle Spike. He's probably one of
(07:20):
the most talented freshman alignment I've ever been around. So
I really like our ol line right now and here
at TJ deserves a lot of credit for not only
developing but recruiting some of the guys in that room,
getting them to the point they're at. We're going to
be good upfront. Man, It's going to be a group
that plays really hard.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Love it well.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
I'll let you get out of here on this. As
the head coach, you're coaching players. Sometimes you're coaching coaches, right,
And I know a big storyline is two new coordinators.
I mean, Kurt's not new, right obviously, he was there already,
but like, how much of that are you doing right
now or do you just have that inherent trust already
and you can continue to do what you do every day.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
No, I do trust this, DJ Elliott have done a
long time. Kurt's been with me a long time. As
you mentioned, I have complete trust in both of them.
At the same time, there's certain things that I care
about that I'm going to be vocal, but I don't
micromanage either of them.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
You know, I'm going to go in. I want to
know what they're doing. I want to know why they're
doing it.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
I'm going to give input, and when something looks wonky,
I'm going to ask them about it and just hey,
explain this to me. Why are we doing it this way?
And if I think there's another way to do it,
We're going to have that conversation. And at the end
of the day, I want the coordinator to feel confident
in what he's doing. I've been in their chair and
I understand what it's like when a head coach comes
in and makes you do something that's not a comfortable thing.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
You know.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
I want to make sure we're aligned, just like I
want to be aligned with buke Rgan and I want
to be aligned with our new chancellor. They need to
be aligned with me, and so I understand their position,
and I also understand the value of giving them another
way to look at things.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Dave doorn, a head football coach NC State wolf Pack,
with us here on Radio Row Coach. I always enjoy
catching up there.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Yeah, thanks guys, Go Pack.
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