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Speaker 1 (00:00):
They also had a rain delay in Death Valley on Saturday,
and it looked pretty hairy there for a while against Troy.
In fact, we had rain delays all over the place
in college football in a Week two schedule that was
certainly down relative to Week one but produced some really
interesting moments, some very horrible moments for some of us.
But at least Clemson survived, I guess, and Clemson's moving

(00:22):
on too. Week three, and we've got former Clemson offensive
lineman ACC Network analyst our buddy Eric McClain back with
us for a Monday conversation.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
eMac, what's up, brother, how are you hey?

Speaker 3 (00:31):
I love the well Clemson one. I guess, I guess
it was okay, Dolle. It would have been real fun
to do like a live in game interview with me
at halftime, man, because I was going nuclear. It was
unbelievable the bad football that I was watching and just

(00:52):
not understanding why, not understanding how? And I did a
little film breakdown. I mean, I could have put forty
plays on there, and we could have talked about all
kinds of different things, but you know, try to do
a little something, show some people kind of what I'm
seeing and hopefully. You know, it's all relatively fixable. It's
just settling down. Specifically, looking at your quarterback, take your read,

(01:12):
take what you've done a thousand times, and man, you're
not in that situation. It's bizarre. But he settled in
a little bit in the second half. They fought like crazy,
you know, scored twenty four points to zero in the
second half. I guess that's something to be excised about. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
And the thing is, you and I both know if
they win Week one against LSU, then we look at
that game Saturday and say, oh, okay, you know, big drop
down in competition. You know, maybe you kind of expect
them to be flat. But because of what happened in
Week one, you know, you got the fan base now thinking,
oh god, what are we? You know, are we just
a good team that came back from last year and
we're not any better? You know, Dabo was really talking
up the effort in the postgame press conference, like, what's

(01:50):
the truth about this team?

Speaker 2 (01:51):
After that effort?

Speaker 3 (01:52):
In your eyes, well, I think there's a little bit
of a hangover effect. I mean, you saw it with
South Carolina, you saw it with LSU, you saw it
with Clemson, where you know, you have this big time game. Uh,
and then you know you're playing a lower caliber opponent,
but still a quality, you know, opponent that could obviously
beat you, as Clemson about found out, you know, and

(02:14):
you let them hang around, and you don't handle business
and you don't play to the same intensity and ask
the tale as old as time and things that you know,
I dealt with back in the day when I was playing,
and certainly there'll be others to deal with it, you know,
later in life. But it's that hard, uh, you know,
kind of put it in the rear view mirror. Let's
go and still give great effort. It's hard to replicate
that energy. But at the end of the day, man,

(02:36):
these opportunities are so far in few, you know, in between.
I mean, we play I guaranteed twelve games, that's the
seven of them, you hope at home. Uh, And so
you always want to put your best foot forward. And
you know that just really wasn't the case for about
maybe thirty minutes of football.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
All right, let's talk about NC State for a second.
State fans. Things are a little rough right now in
North Carolina. You know, I think the NC State's fan
base is the only fan base that's like truly had
beat today Wake Forest, I guess kind of. But they
survived Virginia and CJ. Bailey had himself a date two
hundred and forty four total yards, three total touchdowns. He
got the job done offensively. What did we think of

(03:12):
their performance against Virginia in a non conference game?

Speaker 3 (03:15):
Mind you Yeah, that's the fun part of that. You
know it's all for not in regards to standings, but
it was a fun game, man, I mean back and forth,
you know, shot for shot, guy scoring touchdowns left and right,
and you know, just finding a way to win. And
you know you mentioned CJ. Bailey. I love what I saw,
you know from him in the added wrinkle of the
run game consistently, you know from him, he average like

(03:36):
right around eight yards to carry, got into the end
zone a couple of times, made some really nice throws.
Had a qbr at ninety which you know he was
sixteen of twenty three. I guess, didn't put the ball
too far in jeopardy. It was fun to watch. I mean,
he orchestrated that offense, you know, really really well. And
then to have Hollywood smothers who I've been begging and

(03:56):
pleading Frensis State to have a run game, and it
looks like we've got something because this guy's just running
like a man on fire. And you know, really impressed
me there. And you know, the defense, like I keep
going back and forth that they didn't have a good day, right,
they got rushed on two hundred and sixty yards two
hundred and sixty pasting yards as well, that's not good.

(04:19):
But when they needed them the most, they stood up
and they made a play and they got the deal,
you know, kind of done. They did the same thing
against DCUs. So I guess this year NC State's gonna
be a bend, don't break, you know, type of team
and you know, when you need them to make a play,
they will. So I think there's some marginal things that
you know, need to get better there. It's gonna be
fascinating to see how that happens and who steps up

(04:41):
and you know, can they force more turnovers? Can they
get their team you know in good situations there? But
I like what I see from the wolf back and
I thought this game would be really pivotal and kind
of change the course for either team season. And we'll
see if that holds true.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
Eric McClay and ACC Network hanging out with us for
his Monday conversation Duke and Illinois. I had Manny Diaz
on the show Thursday, and he and I talked a
lot about it. I brought this up to him about,
you know, this was the quintessential we have to win
in the trenches kind of game, and he couldn't have
agreed more obviously, And in the first half Duke was
doing a pretty good job of that. And in the
second half they just fell apart and Mensa had three turnovers.

(05:18):
They just kept shooting themselves in the foot. They didn't
do enough to impact Altmeyer and he started making plays.
Is that a game where obviously we give Illinois credit
for winning it, But forty five nineteen I think is
a little bit misleading for how this game largely went. Like,
if you're a Duke fan, how do you feel about
that effort coming out of the game.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
Yeah, it's definitely misleading. I mean, you're going to halftime
and you're down by one and you're feeling really good
about your plan of attack. You you know, are really
you're dominating the lines of scrimmage. They had four stacks
in the first half, absolutely stoning the run, and they
did that pretty much all game. Illinois averaged under three

(05:56):
yards of carry for the game for a team that's
going to run the ball very effectively for the rest
of the year. There and and as you mentioned, they
just kept hurting themselves cat shooting themselves in the foot
for a variety and multitude of things, which is bizarre,
you know, from the double numbers to the you know
ball in jeopardy, not having two hands on the football

(06:17):
and giving it away to you know, making a silly
decision and having a pick to you know, uh, you
stop them. I mentioned the double numbers, you stop them
on third down. You're getting the ball back to have
a very pivotable, uh monumentum stealing type of situation here,
and it's a flag automatic first down. They walk down
and score. And after that that's where things started to

(06:39):
go awry. You've got to drop punt, give the ball
right back to them. You have you know, silly uh
climbing down play or downfield penalties that wiped away a
touchdown offensively. So there was just a lot of weird
random things, uh that that popped up that Duke was
doing to themselves. And you know, you like to think
some of it is coach seeing that you can get

(07:01):
it out and you know, get more efficient and figure
things out. But you know a lot of it you
just you can't do that against a top twelve opponent
one hundred percent. You can't do that against the quality opponent.
And that's where you know, Illinois started to run away
from it and you talk about the snowball effect. Uh,
they went into score I think it was somewhere in
the thirties, kind of put the game away, and I'm like, okay, well,

(07:23):
you know, maybe Duke can can you know, put a
little drive here together. I look away for a second,
I look back in Illinois walking right back in the
end zone, just like what is going on? So it
was a snowball. I think you feel okay, but certainly
disappointed Eric.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
Real quick on North Carolina.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
They went into Charlotte Saturday evening and it kind of
felt like TCU. They they score on the opening possession,
big pass from Lopez, and then after that it was
a lot of men right, they didn't score a touchdown
in the second half. If you're looking at it optimistically,
I guess you could say they managed the game to
make sure they got out of there with a win
because Charlotte has no semblance whatsoever of offense or quarterback play.

(07:59):
But you know, I'm talking to Heels fans coming out
of Saturday, and they don't feel much better about that
team today than they did last Monday or last Tuesday.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
I should say, yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
Why you would, you know, to be honest. So we'll see.
I mean, I think that's gonna be a really long
season for Carolina. I think just at the end of
the day, you probably just don't have the players. And
the good thing is you can go out and get
them pretty quick. It's just going to have to wait
till twenty six to be able to do that. But
you know, can you try to find some type of
type of spark. Is Lope is going to be the guy?

(08:28):
Is that the guy you feel best about? It's just
it's bizarre, man. So Heels fans lock in and strap
in because it's going to be a long one, all right.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
Now, let me get this misery out of the way.
You know, I know, I know we have a lot
of Virginia Tech alumni here in the Charlotte region, several
of whom reached out to me over the weekend, specifically
to say they were looking forward to hearing what you
had to say about this today. I like Brent Priye.
I've told Bret Pride to his face multiple times that
I'm rooting for him. I really wanted to work out that.
I know it matters to him. I think he's a

(08:56):
good guy and he's still recruiting pretty well. But Eric,
I don't think the guy can coach. And I hate
to say it, but you've got a twenty to ten
lead against Vanderbilt. You've got all the motivation in the
world after what happened to you last year in that
game in overtime out there, you lose a tough one
to South Carolina where you couldn't find any offense. You've
got to sell out crowd coming off of that. The
wind is at your back, and it seems like Clark

(09:18):
Lee and company made one or two adjustments after halftime
and Virginia Tech just rolled over thirty four to nothing.
They get out scored in the second half in Blacksburg
on Saturday night. I'm surprised he still got a job today.
Quite frankly, Eric, what are your thoughts?

Speaker 3 (09:32):
Yeah, it was pretty alarming and pretty concerning I'll tell
you what was the cherry on top and not a
good cherry. Was just the lack of urgency in the
press conference, yes, and like the lack of emotion. I
mean I was watching that, like did we just see
the same game? Like did the same outcome just occur
in your mind? What we saw on the field? And
I don't know, man, like not inspired at all. And

(09:54):
it's just it's just an issue. And you know, I
think there's a lot of things that are stacking up
very quickly, but the one score game record, which is abysmal,
it's the worst in all of college football. And then
the lack of adjustments that we've seen in the last
two weeks, in particularly getting out scored forty eight to
three in the second half of the first two games

(10:15):
of the season is inexcusable. And that's that's coaching, man,
that's the point. That's why you're paying millions of dollars
to figure this out and to have better schemes and
just to do things of that nature. And so it's
super disheartening because I'm right there with you with coach Price.
I think he's a great dude and think he's a
great defensive mind. For whatever reason, it did not work.

(10:35):
And I say that in the past tense because I
think it's done. It's just a matter of time. I
don't know what the contract situation is. What the buyout
numbers look like.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
Five and a half million, five and a half million
dollar buyout, it's doable.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
Make a call, you get it on the phone, KB
and do it.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
Yeah you want me to cut the check out? Yeah,
just write it.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
Just write it and get it done. And then you know,
now it's who you go get and what do you
try to do there? So you know, I it's a
touchy situation. It thinks I hate that that happens, but
this is a business and at the end of the day,
it's a multi million dollar close to a billion dollar business,
and you've got to do what's in the best interest
you for your historical university there. And the timing couldn't

(11:15):
be worse right for these losses to happen in this
situation to happen. You just had your athletic director get
on a meeting and lay out how we need all
this money to be able to compete and to be
able to play at the big dog level. And then
you have a coach that you don't know if he
can get you to that level, and clearly it doesn't
look that way with the win loss record and the

(11:36):
things that happen in these bigger games. So I think
it's unfortunate. It'll be fascinating, you know, to see what
the outcome is when the outcome happens. And at the
end of the day, I will say this before we
move on or get out of here. That fan base
you deserve that. I mean, that place is always rocking.
It's one of the best brands of football. Those fans,

(11:57):
no matter what, show up, show out and are loud,
and they deserve something to cheer for. Not just the
quality of I love Virginia Tech. No, I have a
really good football team and I'm going to bring it.
So I hope that happens soon, man, because we've been
missing that for sure. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
No, it's been reduced to a great entrance and then
an ass kicking ensues. All right, before I let you
out of here. Last thing, just looking ahead to week three.
Not a huge acc slate coming up this weekend. We
do have the Backyard Brawl. I know that's non conference,
but you know, a lot more non conference stuff, But
we do have Clemson Georgia Tech to bring it full
circle here. This game's in Atlanta. Sounds like Haines King
was getting arrested up for this one this past weekend.

(12:33):
And we know these two teams have delivered some classics
in the past. How much does this matchup concern you
as a Clemson fan?

Speaker 3 (12:39):
Oh man, it's terrifying, especially the timing of it. You know,
you've got a Clemson team that just is struggling in
reaching and trying to figure out who they are, and
you've got a Georgia Tech team that knows exactly who
they are, that had some adversity, won a game out
in Boulder, Colorado that looked in vadic offensively last week.
And I get the competition, I know that, but it
was fun to watch and they're throwing the ball all

(13:01):
over the yard running it, you know, for even more.
The fascinating thing to me is Vegas has it right
now as a nine and a half you know, point
spread in favor of the Tigers. Meanwhile, the ESPN predictor
has Georgia Tech leaning fifty six percent to win. So
it's a little split here, and it's a fascinating thing. Man,
the Yellow Jackets are going to be physical. They have

(13:22):
not won this game in nine years. You best believe
they're going to be inspired and bring out all the
tips and tricks to try to get it done in
the flat.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
Oh yeah, hete real quick. Sorry about this. I overlook
Thursday night. I was looking straight to Saturday. Any chance
Wake Forest upsets NC State Thursday night?

Speaker 3 (13:38):
If you get the ball to that running backs hands,
let me just tell you crazy things happened. Demon Claiborne
is a monster and I cannot wait to see that
matchup NC State. I mean, defensively, they're giving up whatever
you want so that they better have a plan in
place for number one. But I've always leaned quarterbacks. Man.
I think CJ. Bailey's as specially as it comes. I
think he's a future superstar. He's a star, are now

(14:00):
superstar in this league. They probably get it done.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
Love it.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
Hey, we've kept you long enough. Thank you as always, brother,
We'll talk to you next.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
Monday, no doubt.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
Man, be good
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