December 4, 2025 • 46 mins
In the show's opening hour, Kyle and Smoke recap night 2 of the SEC/ACC Challenge, which saw the ACC fail to win after a strong start, and the guys look into a rough stretch for Will Wade and the NC State Wolfpack.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Good afternoon, Queen City Sports Radio ninety two seven wf
n z KB and Smoke back for another round and
a loaded show here on a Thursday. Will Pelogic, Willie
p Logic, Willype's back at three forty five. We'll talk
about the big news of Bank of America Stadium getting
a penultimate pre World Cup friendly coming up in May.
He broke that news a couple of days ago. He's
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also our Panthers in Horne. It's postgame extraordinary. We'll talk
about both with him. Trevor Sikima, Pro Football Focus, host, podcaster, reporter,
he does it all. He's back at for twenty five.
We love Trevor Sikima. Okay, he's our buddy. We think
he's great talking football. I don't need to tell you
that to validate him, but that's just what we think
about him. But Pro Football Focus and their grades of
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certain Panthers is certainly not something that a lot of
Panthers fans have loved. As of late, certainly not to
the degree that we love Trevor Sikima, So that will
come up at for twenty five. I want to know
what he thinks about how really Derek Brown in particular
is being treated by the PFF grades. So we'll talk
about that with Trevor Sikima, and already Smoke wants to
jump in on that front. What's going on.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Don't forget JC Horns rinking he's like sixty overall in
the season.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I need an explainer, like as a non analytics guy
who does understand statistics basically, but I just I'll be honest,
I don't understand a lot of what they're doing. I
just needed blaying to me, like them five how their
numbers could come out with. Oh, you know, Derek Brown's
just okay, pretty good, not arguably the best at his
position in the NFL, and I guess the same goes
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for j C Horns. So we'll talk to Trevor Sikhama
about that coming up at four twenty five. Also at
five o'clock, Manny Diz, head football coach of the Duke
Blue Devils, is back as they get set to battle
the Wahoos in the ACC title game. Saturday at the bank,
and we'll bring this up. I'll bring it up with Manny.
He's of course stumping for his team to make the
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college football playoff if they beat Virginia on Saturday night
in the ACC title game, which that is his job.
I realize people have been rolling their eyes at that,
and on what's he talking about. I mean, we got
one four lost team at the back end of the
top twenty five something Roman Harper brought up yesterday. You know,
Iowa sneaking them in to bolster the other Big ten
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teams resume and a five loss duke team while if
they win the title game may end up ranked next week,
and I would, you know, probably imagine they will be
if they win the game, certainly not going to be
near enough. I would think to you know, vault them
into the highest ranked conference champion discussion. That would put
them into the college football playoff. And as you heard yesterday,
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Michael Strickland, the senior Associate commissioner of the Atlantic Coast
Conference in football, said that tie breaker is something they're
going to take a look at this offseason. As you
would expect, I'm sure Manny's going to argue in favor
of it. But you know, Michael Strickland said yesterday, Yeah,
that's something we're going to look at in the offseason
because you're looking at a title game that does not
feature the conference's best team in Miami. So all that
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will come up with Manny Diaz at five o'clock already,
my guy Charisma the Supreme saying Pro Football Focus is
a scam. Well, it's a lucrative scam if it's a scam.
And I want to be respectful to Trevor because you know,
I try to be respectful to everybody. They pay his bills,
that's his employer. And I do think PFF has given
us plenty of content to talk about over the years,
even if I hate a lot of it, They've given
us stuff to talk about, so I am grateful for that.
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I just don't understand the numbers in a lot of
what they do. I don't I've been watching football, covering
football for a really, really long time, and Smoke you
can say the same, and many of our listeners can
clearly say the same. It's just so often what we
see out there, you know, doesn't match up with the
numbers and the values that they place on these players
and I just like an explainer. That's why seven oh
(04:18):
four five, seven oh ninety six ten, Ja from Mount
Holly says, do you know who owns Pro Football Focus?
I thought Collinsworth did in part? Right at least is
isn't he the majority owner?
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Yeah, which is why we see PFF grades own every
single Sunday night football intro.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
That's true, right? So when I was like when he
asked me that, I was like, is that a trick question?
Is there something I'm not because I thought Collinsworth was
the guy that owned Pro Football Focus? So I mean,
is this like an anti Chris collins Worth thing that
we're going out here Jay from Mount Holly or now
here's a guy he doesn't like me? Chris collins all
right seven oh four five, seven oh ninety six ten
(04:54):
hit us up on the fan duel text line, Oh,
I do have a fun game to play. You ready
for this? So I got a I had a listener
earlier text me and he said, hey, KB, did you
hear what Max said this morning comparing his husbandry to
that of Kurt Rambis on the show? And I said, yes,
in fact I did, And I thought it was one
of the funniest things that Max, ever said, maybe unintentionally so,
but this morning he's Max railing about Bill Belichick and
(05:17):
the fact that Jordan Hudson filed this foyer request on
was it Robbie pickerel Evans, the top communication officer with
Carolina Athletics. I've had some dealings with her in the past.
She's very pleasant. I don't know her well, but that
Jordan Hudson had filed a foyer request and that it
was made public, of course, and so everybody sees that
Jordan Hudson is doing a foyer request on the comms
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of the top comms officer at the University of North Carolina,
and everybody thinks, oh God, here we go again. This
girl cannot stay out of the way. And Max railing
on Belichick to get his life under control and stop
letting this tiny, little young woman run his life. And
I think Max right about that. But then somebody clapped
back at Mac and said, well, hey, Max, getn't that
kind of rich considering your wife runs your life? And
(05:59):
I thought Mac had the retort he said, no, no, no,
The difference is that my wife runs our family like
Magic Johnson running the break for the showtime Lakers. I'm
more like Kurt Rambis, you know, picking up the dog poop,
taking the trash out, things like that, and I did.
I thought it was absolutely hilarious, and somebody asked me
to do the same. They said, KB, what athlete would
you compare yourself to in terms of being a husband?
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And I thought that was funny, And for some reason,
the first name that came to mind was Jalen Hurts,
because like, it's not always pretty, I'm not always doing
it the exact right way, but damn it, I'm gonna win.
And I think she respects that, and she's really Howie
Roseman who puts it all together. So that was like
my first thought is that I'm Jalen Hurts and my
wife is Howie Roseman. I guess right now it's not
going too well after the last comes. Okay, fair enough,
(06:41):
fair enough. Maybe that's not the most timely comparison for that,
but if you, as listeners had to compare yourselves as
husbands and fathers in particular, I'm not trying to omit
the ladies, but we are a male dominated audience if
I'm being honest about it. If you had to compare
yourself as a husband as a dad to a pro
to a pro athlete, would it be? And why? I
think the why in this is what's going to produce
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the funniest stuff on the FanDuel text line. But and
it could be you know, it could be hoops thing too,
like it could be a basketball comparison. That's fine. But
if you want to compare yourself to an all time
great athlete as a husband as a father, I would
love to hear it. Because when Mac said Kurt Rambis
this morning, I spit out my coffee a little bit
because I thought that was absolutely hilarious. So anyway, seven
oh four or five seven oh ninety six ten, Battle
(07:26):
Nation said, you're not George Foreman, KB. No, there's a
tush push joke in there somewhere. Though.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
For me with the Jalen Hurts comparison, I was gonna say,
you didn't name your kids Kyle or Kyle and Kyle,
so I think you're off the list of George Foreman.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Oh god, it's funny, man, Oh it's really funny. So
seven oh four, five seven oh ninety six ten hit
us up on the FanDuel text line. The acc absolutely,
I mean, drop the ball a crap the bed, like
what six' three advantage in the ACC Sec challenge after night?
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One and all they had to do was what win
three of the games last? Night? Yep to win the? Series.
Yep and they lose all but one of. Them that's,
It thank, You. VIRGINIA i. Guess by the, Way Ryan
odaman company off to a, tremendous tremendous start At. Uva,
okay just incredible and what he's done so. Far now
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we knew he was a good, coach but off to
a seven and one. Start they Handled texas last night
and it was an impressive win for everybody else it
was just blah AND nc. STATE i know that this
was always gonna happen With Will wade if he didn't start.
Fast with all the. Trash this dude was talking all
The Van Allen lubin, comments all the you, know backhanded.
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Shots it seemed To Hubert, davis you know he better
live up to, it, Right better live up to. It
better come out, swinging you know not you know What
i'm talking. About and they just after THE maui going
one and two, there and then last night in a
game where like, defensively, man they look absent plutely. Lost,
okay just like The, hornets by the, way who will
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get to, turnovers, Right but For, state they forced turnovers
and turn them into twenty two. Points. Okay so you
would think if you saw something like that in the stat, line,
well you, know they're probably gonna be. Okay but they
weren't okay last. NIGHT i mean it was early back
and forth in that game that we had a couple
of huge. Swings state actually led in that game eighteen
to eleven by forcing some turnovers themselves getting. Downhill Then
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auburn answers with a seventeen to two run to flip the,
game and THEN Nc state fires back with a thirteen
to ozho run of its. Own so you had these
wild momentum. Swings tigers lead it by six at the,
break AND Nc state never led. Again After auburn sees
control late in the first, half there was a killer
second half. Stretch midway through the second, Half auburn goes
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on a ten ohero run fueled mostly By Keshawn, hall
to push that lead to double, figures which effectively decided the.
Game last, Night auburn just put on a shooting clinic
in this. One fifty nine point one percent from, field
twelve of twenty two from. THREE i think they missed
eighteen shots all night. LONG i mean you compare that
TO Nc state's forty point six percent overall. SHOOTING i
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mean you're spotting them eighteen to twenty points off of efficiency.
Alone Kevin overton twenty nine, points nine, rebounds six of
nine from. THREE i Mentioned Keyshawn hall twenty eight and
ten five of seven from. Three those two guys combined
for fifty seven Of auburn's eighty three points and eleven
of their twelve made threes last. NIGHT i don't want
to reduce it to only two, guys but you could
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clearly make the argument today smoke that two dudes for
The Auburn tigers last night beat THE Nc State. Wolfpack
And wolfpack fans, TODAY i think are, rightly really frustrated
and irritated by. It By it's one thing to lose
to losing Two auburn on the road last several, years no, crime,
right that's not a. Crime but you get beat by two,
guys and, Defensively state just looked lost all night, long didn't?
Speaker 3 (10:53):
They they definitely, did and it was just one of
those situations where they Basically oftron forced them to play
one style and one style, only and that was shooting three.
Pointers especially when you got into last seven eight. MINUTES i,
mean it just felt, LIKE i think up until the
last minute when it was clearly, over they were just
shooting threes as quickly as, possible and then it would
run into going off the back iron long rebounds For
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auburn didn'ty go to the other, end they get a
bucket or they shoot a. Three some of it Was
auburn just could not. Miss that was part of, it
but it just felt Like state was also helping. Him it's, like,
yeah we can make this a little, closer, Bro we're
gonna take a stupid shot.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Here, yeah let's do this here instead of doing.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
That and it was just one of those situations WHERE
i Think state kind of panicked a little too quickly
in that scenario to where if they didn't panic as
much and maybe just try to get you, know good
looks and even if it took fifteen twenty seconds, longer
they probably should have done. That and it just it
just steamrolled into the second half Where auburn had firm
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control of, it and you, KNOW i looked OUT i
Saw Jeff goodman say last night on The field of
sixty eight, podcasts maybe we Crowned you, know a lot
of people crowned This Will wade air AT Nc state
a little too, Quickly AND i think there is truth to.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
That.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Absolutely DO i think That Will wade and N C
state is still going to be pretty good this?
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Year? Yes.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
DO i think maybe a lot OF Nc state fans
saw so much hype that they felt the hype was
it got to the point WHERE i think the hype
was a little bit too higher than it needed to
be for year. ONE i think in the long, Run
Will wade's going to be their. Guy Will wade's going
to get them into deep tournament. Runs BUT i never
thought this year was going to be the year where
they go in a deep tournament. Run AND i think,
unfortunately due to the hype that we saw From Will
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wade and all the guys they, got especially Getting Darien,
williams they probably felt that they were going to be
like a second weekend. Team BUT i look at this
year as a year or as long as you make
the tournament, period it's a. SUCCESS i still think that's
on the. Table but the last week is kind, of you,
know showed a lot of cracks in the armor that
this is a flawed. Team BUT i think it's a
flawed team that can still get Into march and play tournament.
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Basketball but, UNFORTUNATELY i think a lot of people bought
the hype thinking they're gonna be a second weekend team
or even a god Help final fourteen, potentially AND i
just think now they're feeling like to get an egg
on their, face especially after the like. This if they
didn't have any problems In mali and then they lost this,
GAME i don't think we're talking anything ABOUT Nc state right.
Now if we're being, Honest it's, like, oh lost To,
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auburn YET i kind of. Sucked performance was kind of,
Shaky but then, Again auburn hasn't lost a non con
home game there since twenty. Fifteen you just chalk it
up to. That but since you lost two games In,
maui one of those being To Seaton, hall and didn't
you have that performance yesterday Against, auburn it's kind of
making people panic a little. Bit AND i just think
maybe the panickings so we're kind of going in our
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direction to one way being too, reactionary too do you
get away being too. REACTIONARY i just kind of keep
yourself in the. Middle AND i hope a lot Of
state fans realize you got to keep yourself in the.
Middle if we're still having these problems in Late january Early,
FEBRUARY i get, it but we're in Early. DECEMBER i
wasn't expecting the biggest thanks from Wild wade in year.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
One, well, no LIKE i. Didn't that's the thing, IS
i really hadn't thought that much about WHAT i expected
from them in the first month of the season because
it's the first month of the college basketball. Season he's
in a new, Place he's brought some players with him
that he, knows some that he, doesn't and you, know
we've seen it's it's a routine thing each and every.
Year you, know we watch lots of teams start out,
slow get better throughout the course of the, year you,
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know improved Through, christmas conference play, starts and you, know
we'll see where they. Go that's the thing about This Will.
Wade it's one of those microwave reaction type things that
we do in in, sports and we're you, know we
can do it, too but it's one of those things
that you, know and we got to see what's what
Is Will wade right? Now okay what right? Now he
hasn't done exactly what we think he'll be eventually right.
Now so, MAN i, mean look At Will. Wade what
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a disappointment that guy can't. Fault they're probably going to be,
fine you, See wolf says The pack will be. Fine
these guys just played their eighth game. Together that's. It,
Like i'm not A state, fan So i'm not really
in The i'm not inclined to just defend him just
to defend. Him he's not my. Coach BUT i do
believe they're one hundred percent going to be. Fine ryan
From Historic monroe Says Will wade has talked to, talk
but as A state, Fan i'm not overly concerned right.
(15:00):
Now it takes time for teams to gel with all the.
Transfers definitely think they will get it together by acc
play and get into the. Tournament tyson just, said y'all
acting Like Will wade Is. God who ALL i go
on is the guy's track. Record he's won everywhere he's
been at places that are not basketball. Powerhouses by the, way.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Right, well OH, vcu but YEAHS, Lsu, yes, yeah, Well
i'm talking TO, Lsu that's WHAT i. Mean, SORRY i
should have clarified BECAUSE vcu is one of the best
mid major schools in all of college.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Basketball BUT i think what you're said when, well y'all
acting Like Will wade Is. God, Okay, well he's one
of several coaches to win AT, vcu wasn't there that,
long only three years went TO. Lsu far from a
traditional basketball, power although they have produced some guys over the,
Years shaquille O'Neil comes to, mind but it's. Not it's
far from a traditional college basketball. Power it takes, them you,
know to the MULTIPLE NC Doublea tournament. Appearances when's McNeese
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state's first EVER NC Doublea tournament, game turns that program
around almost. Immediately SO i don't think anybody's acting like He's.
God but when a guy has one and been to
THE Ncaa tournament in multiple, places including non traditional basketball power,
STOPS i think he's doing a certain level of respect
and benefit of the. DOUBT i think that's a fair
way to put. It, YEAH i think that's a fair
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way to put it. Too and, Like i'm not gonna
panic Over louisville losing To arkansas last. Night that was
a you, know not great BECAUSE i automatic put that
in as A w For. Louisville BUT i think now
that you saw something That louisville has a problem. With
and this is where looking at the ACC's performances last,
NIGHT i locked it looked At louisville And i'm, like
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that looks like a team that's going to have trouble
Against North carolina And duke because where did they struggle
on the? Glass Where's carolina And duke at the strongest the? Glass?
Yeah down.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Low i'm looking at This louisville team, like all, right
you're gonna have to really shoot yourselves out of the
gym to make sure that you can Beat duke In
North carolina this.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
YEAR i also look At.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Virginia virginia looked like they could be the same role
That louisville was in last. Year, Now Ryan otoms got
that Team hummond in year one, already and they Blanked
texas In.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Austin that was a statement win From virginia last.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Night even If texas is not the best, team And
i'll also say, this they may not be the best
team out, There they may not be the flashiest team
But clemson's still going to Be it painted a butt
for a lot of people because they came back from
a fifteen point deficit and we're going toe to toe
of a really Good alabama team on the. Road, unfortunately
they couldn't hit their shots, late And alabama finally got
the three point shot going within the final six. Minutes
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BUT i looked At, Clemson i'm, like all, Right clemson's
still going to be a pretty good team this year.
Too so even though THE acc craft the bed last,
night uh and didn't win the SEC Acc, challenge it's
a clear step up from what it's been the last
three to four.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Years AND i think that's a good.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Sign if You're Jim phillips inside THE acc offices today seven.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Oh four or, five seven ninety six to, ten hit
us up on the fan duel text. Line we got
a lot to get To willie p coming up in
twenty six, minutes a lot to catch up on with.
Him we got to talk Some panthers as. Well when
we come. Back Sports radio ninety two to SEVEN wf
and zus a ridiculous way in that. Set See i'm
from The. South some of the most beautiful things come
(18:06):
out my mouth and how those.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
Days, yes this someone doesn't have come out of my,
house so as we'll give them something.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Which radio ninety two to seven w f n Z
kb and. Smoke hanging out with you here on A.
Thursday we Got willie back in twenty. Minutes Trevor sikima
Of Pro Football focus is in at four twenty. Five
we'll talk a lot Of panthers IN Nfc south with.
Him he's A charlotte, resident he covers the league at,
large and he's also born and raised In tampa and
covered The Tampa Bay buccaneers for many. YEARS i think
(18:38):
for The Pewter report If i'm not, mistaken which.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
By the, way is a deep cut name because that
was the color of the uniforms and is the color
of the uniforms for The bucks yet Again oh.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Yeah yeah. No so we'll talk about that with him
and get his thoughts on how the division plays. Out
five o'clock many d as head football coach of The
Duke Blue devils will stop. By also big shout out
To Austin corbett of The Carolina, panthers who was celebrated
by the team as The Walter Peyton man of The
Year award nominee for the. Team i've had a few
people texting to ask about. Us are we gonna talk
(19:08):
about him winning the? Award he did not win the.
Award he, might but he's been nominated by The panthers
as their nominee for The Walter Peyton man of The Year.
Awards so congrats To Austin. Corbett that's really. Cool why
it seems like there's a lot of offensive linemen that
it Was Bradley boseman a couple of years. Ago i'm
trying to think it was last. YEAR i gotta go
back and, look, well was It Darek? Brown last?
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Year was IT? dB?
Speaker 2 (19:28):
YEAH i think it might have. BEEN i know he
was one. Year.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Yeah but then, Again Austin corbet's already won because we
all saw who announced made the announcement to. Him it
was a video From Robert chijulio And James headfield Of
metallica Telling austin he had been nominated by The Carolina.
Panthers oh, YEAH i mean he's at the driver's seat.
ALREADY i, mean that's probably the coolest announcement you can.
Get two members Of. Metallica oh, dude was It Jims
(19:51):
headfield in what?
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Trujillo is? That Robert? Trigulio, yeah is it? True? Hello or?
True is? True? Hell?
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Right?
Speaker 2 (19:57):
True? True? Hell yeah True. Helio there's two. L's if
it's It's, spanish you don't there's no, okay no L,
no it's. Okay it's all, right you, know because he
Replaced Jason newstead after he left in two. Thousand mmmm.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
So and by the, way he also was a guitarist
at one point For Ozzy. Osbourne for some, REASON i
thought you Meant Austin. Corbett, no he was definitely not
the guitarist For Yeah My Head Got twisted. Rappers S,
hey just Remember Hulk cogan said he tried out From
metallica in the. Eighties, uh let's, Say, oh we had
a textor who would be The Walter Payton man of
The year at w f N.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
Z Not.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Fitty i'll go with Not. Fitty how about? That that's
my answer for that. Canon uh, Yeah i'll Go. BOOMER
i Like. Boomer i'll Throw hoggard in there. TOO i
think it has to do with, Philanthropy SO i think
we're stretching the bounds of the award a little. BIT
i don't know how Much colin's giving to. Charity but
if you consider us, charity Then colin should be Our
Walter Payton man of The year. Nominee let's go to
the phone lines real. Quick kevin has a husband. COMPARISON
(20:49):
i love, It? Kevin what's going?
Speaker 5 (20:51):
On?
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Hey how you got? Good what's going? On the question was.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
A?
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Husband who who would you?
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Give? Yeah which?
Speaker 1 (21:01):
GUN i was?
Speaker 2 (21:02):
At ac from? ME i can't wait to hear. This
why are you A? C? Green because he wasn't? Great
wait to a lot of things, GOOD a lot of things.
Good and he never missed a, day never missed a.
Day it never took a day off at that. Far
there you, go there you. GO i like. It thank, You.
KEVIN i appreciate the phone. Call OH i love a
(21:24):
Good Ac green. Reference that's really if you missed. It
matt compared his husbanding skills this morning To Kurt, rambis
called his wife the. Magic johnson of the show said
she ran the family like magic ran The Showtime lakers fast,
break and he compared himself To Kurt, rambis AND i,
said that's a fun game to compare yourself to either
a FORMER nba tandem or like a quarterback head Coach
(21:45):
combo in THE. NFL i went with me and my
wife As Jalen hurts And Howie. Roseman that's What i've
got so, far Seem, mixer Said Dion. SANDERS i backtracked
fast and play. Defense that's that's a really good. Answer
Cheeter dave Says Larry. BIRD i just give them a, Look.
OKAY i like. That overly Optimistic holmer, Said I'm Paul.
Skeens i'm the only one carrying the. Team but we
(22:07):
aren't making it. Far all, Right, well we now know
who's gonna be sleeping on the couch. Tonight that's REALLY
i knew. THAT i knew the why in these would
be fantastic Easy math, said my wife is Pat. Riley
i'm just on a one year contract every. Year that's a.
Goodism oh that's really really. Good that's really really. Good
Oh am it says that T bone said he's more
(22:29):
Like Ac green this. MORNING i didn't hear that part that.
ONE i missed. IT i must have been laughing At
matt comparing himself To Kurt. Rambis that's. FUNNY a few
people Like adam And gastonia are insisting THAT i am
Not Jalen, hurts But i'm Instead Jake. DELONE i even
got An Antonio camarti in, there which is. Funny But
i'm nowhere close To Antonio comarty in terms of offspring
(22:49):
that and you've you've kept it one your mono, True
BUT i also SE i. DON'T i also can't match
him at foot. Speed but that's, Okay i'll take. It
let's see. Here ken, Says i'll call Myself Bob barker
As i've given away money due to a. Divorce, okay
now now we're stretching the rules just a little. Bit cakillac,
Says I'm Bernard pollard and my wife is Ed. Reid
she's A hall Of famer. Undisputed BUT i have my
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moments when you least expect, IT i do something epic
like Taring brady's. Acl wow that got dark there at the. End, Wow,
Hey Bernard pollard could also do a. Split oh Dear god,
smoke look at this one three three to zero Number
young's Tall ohio checking. In I'm Andy dalton Because i'm
on my fifth marriage and it ain't going. Well these
(23:31):
are really really good seven oh four five SEVEN o
ninety six. Ten if you could compare yourself to a
pro athlete as a husband or even you know a
great tandem and sports husband wife edition what you. Got
it's the why THAT i think really make these seven
oh four five SEVEN o ninety six ten would love
to hear from.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
YOU i also, think you, Know max Kurt rambis is
good because you Know Kurt, rambis he wasn't, special but
he had like a special moment every now and. Then you,
know you think about the infamous moment THE Nba finals
where he got. Clocked that was a special. MOMENT i
Got lakers fans to rally even here In Charlotte, christmas
(24:09):
The Christmas miracle against The Jordan bulls in nineteen eighty,
eight the first Time jordan had played in THE nba
here In. Charlotte, Sure Kurt rambis got the tip in
to win the game in nineteen eighty eight to upset The.
Bulls the FIRST i would say great moment In Charlotte
hornet's history is because Of Kurt. Rambis you, Know ma's
not really, flashy but he'll have a moment every now
and then that.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Makes it go that's great right.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
There, Yeah it's like he'll eventually get a prediction, right
or he'll break his chair live on the.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
RADIO m mail From. Charlotte i'm The caro a lot Of,
Panthers i'm still looking for a franchise. Quarterback, okay all,
right you know, what let's if we can't go a
full segment without somebody taking a swipe at the. Quarterback
i'm the first of, ALL i, said a, player not a.
Franchise he, Says i'm still looking for a. Quarterback we,
are you said to me before the, Show like we both.
(24:55):
Acknowledge for The, panthers this bye week came at a
pretty good time all things. Considered it's still not where
you would want to have a bye week if you
could choose before the, season you don't want to have
to wait until week. Fourteen but, again given the, circumstances
it does seem like this is coming at an opportune
time For, carolina AND i think we feel that way
much more so because of the, win, RIGHT i, mean
(25:17):
going into the bye week with a win is universally
going to make you feel better about your football team
than going into a bye week with a loss and
the fact that they're still sitting above five hundred and you,
know not below five hundred for the first time since
what week, four five? FIVE i guess, Right, no they
were one and three and then fought their way. Back
(25:37):
they won three, Straight SO i guess it's been Since
week six that this team was, under you, know at
or below five. Hundred so, anyway point, being it is
kind of weird that we're off the rhythm because once
we get typically into this stage of the, year well,
honestly we're talking a lot about the draft and the
offseason and what's coming up and who might be fired
and what kind of coach or quarterback or general manager
they're looking. For but like for the second consecutive, offseason
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we will be going into that long desert of an
offseason where we're not talking about wholesale. CHANGE i don't
think like. That that could be you, know tinkered with
a little bit depending upon how the quarterback plays these
next four. Games but that's. Good so What i'm driving
at those smoke is we're sitting here, today no game this.
Weekend we're going to sit back and watch everybody else
(26:22):
play Before carolina comes out of that buy against The.
Saints you ARE i won't call you the king of
predictions BECAUSE i don't want your head to swell any
more than it already. Is, well PLUS i got the last.
ONE i wasn't going to point that, out but we
all get them. Wrong but you're pretty good at, prognosticating
or at least very good at factoring in historical context
for The panthers and then making educated guesses as to what.
(26:43):
Happens are you afraid of The saints game coming out
of it because of what happened last, time because of
the rocky nature of this team week to? Week or
do you think that after a signature win against the
NFL's best, team a week to get, healthy controlling your
own destiny with everything on the, line that this team
comes out firing against The saints In New orleans in
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ten days or whatever it. IS i think it's ten.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Days, well it's kind of hard to guess what this
team will do after to, by just because we're still
in year two Of Dave, canal so we only have
one data point to see what they do after. Bye
they did lose that game last year After, dubai but
it was against The, chiefs but they played them, close
which was a, big a big you, know not to
say moral, victory but it was a, big you, know
sign of improvement that they took went toe to toe
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of The, chiefs and it took a game winning field
goal to win that, game even at. HOME i think
this team understands the situation they're in and they know
that they can't lose to this team, twice nor do
they want. To AND i, think, well of course they
don't want, to BUT i can't see this team letting
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that happen. Again SO i think they're gonna win this.
Game and there's been times in the franchise's history where
they lose to The. Saints now that both of these
times that, happened it was In week, one this was
In week nine to.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Ten then it.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Happened but you go back into nineteen ninety, nine the
year where they The saints made to trade and gave
up the whole entire draft For Ricky. Williams believe it or,
not the first game Of George cea For day lost
that game against The. Saints then they played again On january,
second two, thousand When jake delomb was the starting quarterback
for The, saints and they walloped. Them the last game
Of dika as the head coach two thousand and, five
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they lose to The saints in the, opener last second
field goal the first game After. Katrina then they play
again In. December carolina blitzes them In Death valley In.
Louisiana SO i just Think carolina's going to bounce back
and win that. Game AND i also think they're going
to beat The, seahawks just Because seattle going from The
west coast to The east. Coast don't know what time it,
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is but it feels like it's going to likely be
an afternoon. Slot and also when most of the time
when The Seattle seahawks come here In, december WHICH i
think it's only been, Twice carolina's won one time and they've,
lost but they've played them close both. TIMES i just
feel Like carolina in a close game this, year they've
been one score, game SO i take. Them the real
question is what do they do against The, Buccaneers and
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right NOW i feel like the safe bed is to
say they split.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Split with The. Bucks, yeah do you think they split
the rest of the? Way, NO i think you did
three and? One three and, one, okay, okay, Okay, Sorry
that's that's HOW i THINK i feel about, it AND
i really want to believe that because they're they're coming
off a near identical scenario from The Green bay. Game,
(29:29):
hey you didn't do it on the. Road you went
up To Green bay and you won ugly against The
packers in a game that you. Controlled you executed the
game plan that you wanted to execute that, day and
so you're riding. High you've got the attention of THE.
Nfl oh look At carolina, now and then you lay that.
Egg so they're in a near identical, scenario but you
insert a bye week in. Between SO i want to. Believe, hey,
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guys look what remember what happened to us against this
exact same, team you, know feeling ourselves reading the press.
Clippings you, know we can't let that happen. Again we
got everything in front of. Us we just proved who
we can. Be this has to be a grown up.
Win we talked about those in terms of THE nets
win or THE nets game with The hornets a couple
of nights. AGO i get, it we all get, it
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slightly different, scenarios but you got to have a grown
up win here In New. Orleans you've got to have
a good week of, practice great week of, preparation the motivation,
like these are pro, athletes and a lot of them
will tell, you you, know motivation shouldn't necessarily be what
drives you every week you're a pro, athlete but it
does factor. In so all of that put, TOGETHER i
want to believe they go handle business against The, saints
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get to eight and six with three to, go two Against,
tampa and then maybe that's the moment where you feel, Like,
okay we've exercised those demons of being really. Inconsistent we
strung together back to back. Wins we found a way
to do, it and now we're eight and. Six we
got probably very little margin for, er although it depends
on What tampa does the rest of the, way but
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you got you got two games for all of it
to make the playoffs and host of play that's the
other thing we keep talking about making the. Playoffs but
if this team makes the, playoffs it will be in
all likelihood because they win the, division which means a
home playoff game At bank Of America. Stadium AND i
know everybody knows, that but we've talked about it so
much in terms of can they get? There can they
beat The Tampa Bay bucks? Twice? Right can they make
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the playoffs in year, two even though that wasn't necessarily the.
Expectation but we haven't focused, ENOUGH i think on the
potential of hosting a playoff game and what that can
mean for the, fans and what that can mean for
this team as well as they continue to grow and
get better and have those. Experiences so's we all want
a home playoff. Game that should go without, saying BUT
i really would love this team to get the opportunity
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for these fans to get the opportunity after this seven year,
drought to host a playoff game At bank Of America.
Stadium let me Get chris in here real. Quick, chris
what's going?
Speaker 5 (31:46):
On?
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Man?
Speaker 4 (31:48):
Yeah living the Dream man calling a week heading. Home
just wanted to say thank you guys for the. COVERAGE
i am taking my wife down In New orleans for
a twenty ninth wedding. Anniversary So i'm really excited to
hear the. Predictions i'm predicting the win, man because we lose.
It itin's it'll be good twenty nine year to the thirtieth.
Year because my wife is we'll. Go but you're telling
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me we're gonna. WIN i, said we're gonna win this,
baby we're gonna win this, game AND i went big.
TIME i got row two right behind The panther's bench
and never been To New. Orleans schupberg, stited super pumped
up about this, team and all the naysayers please don't.
Stop we got to have somebody to go against and
to prove wrong like that's what this team. Does so
all the, naysayers keep your voices, loud keep putting the
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mouth on.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
This team for.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Me love.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
It, hey you your wife's a football. FAN i, assume,
yeah well she's a me.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
Fan but, Yeah i've god been dragged at the. Games,
Now i've been dragging at games for about ten. Years
and she had a lot more fun in the past
has it been in the last few. Years but, yeah
she's still. Going, man she's she's a keeper for. Sure.
MAN i love her and She's, yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
That's, awesome, Buddy thank you for the phone. CALL i
too took my wife to a football game for an.
Anniversary it was our first, anniversary BUT i also took
my kind of football fan to a football game in our.
Anniversary so it's. Awesome go have. Fun hopefully you come
back with a. Win right, now we go to smoke
on the. Headlines who is? Smoke where is? Smoked where there's,
smoke there's, fire let's. GO i don't know IF i
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should read this or, not but my dad just texted
me to declare The panthers are winning. Out he says
they're going four and oh down the. Stretch So randy's
on board with four and oh in the final four.
Games APPARENTLY i would not mind that. WHATSOEVER i would
neither what you got over? There all, Right, well this
is a pretty interesting news.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Here according To Adam, schefter THE nfl and NFL pa
have agreed to a new model for selecting playing services
in stadiums oh one that will require teams to choose
from an improved set of manufacturers and styles for both
natural and synthetic turf. Fields, okay so the players will
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have it even into turf, fields they will have a
choice and to say and what type of turf company
they use moving, forward.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Which is, big especially if you play In east The
Third New. Jersey m all, right, listen, well hit a,
break we'll come. Back will polachiic voice Of CHARLOTTE fc
and our post game. Specialist he's our closer here AT.
Wfnz he's The Mariano rivera of WFN, z where we're
headed to the, bullpen our post game, specialist Talking, Panthers
hornets In CHARLOTTE. Fc Next Sports radio ninety two seven
(34:19):
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(34:43):
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Outside we're trying to keep you warm and keep you.
Company Trevor sikima will help us do. That in about
thirty five, minutes we'll talk all Things panthers IN Nfc
South Manny, diaz head football coach of The Duke Blue,
devils is back at five. O'clock but right now we
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specialist here at WFN. Z he's Got panthers In hornets post.
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Game he's also the voice Of CHARLOTTE. Fc the Affable
Will polachik back with us for A thursday. Conversation willie
pet what's going? On true PROFESSIONAL? Kb just call me
mister postgame. HMM i like, that ALTHOUGH i did just
occur to. Me you're A mets, guy so you probably
don't love The Mariano rivera, comparison, right or do. You, Eh,
Okay i've been. Compared i've been compared to. Worse that's.
(35:26):
Fair who is The? Mets i'm probably stupid for. Asking
this greatest closer In mets history is?
Speaker 5 (35:31):
Who, ooh Probably John, franco Maybe tug, McGraw either of, Those, okay.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
All, right BECAUSE I i paniced for a, second like
who AM i not thinking? Of but, YEAH i guess
that's about, Right, okay either of those? Two all? Right, Sweet,
well it's good to have you, Back Big. NEWS i
think you were the one that broke it a couple
of days. Ago you certainly broke it to. ME i
have worn out the word penultimate on the show this,
week but, uh penultimate Pre World cup friendly coming To
bank Of America stadium This. May what should folks know about?
(35:58):
It it is the second last.
Speaker 5 (36:00):
Game i'll keep you from having to say that word,
again the second to last game that The United states
will play before The World cup. Starts they're going to
play two games In march In atlanta Against belgium And.
Portugal their final game is going to be the week
after the one In charlotte In. Chicago basically a kind
of last little bit tune up there for. Them the
(36:21):
opponent in this game is still yet to be determined
because they're waiting on The World cup, draw which is
many believe anyone, knows takes place, TOMORROW i should say
so from that, perspective once the draw comes, out then
they'll start going through the teams and the machinations and
try to at least prevent it being somebody that they can,
play absent of, course to potential, final which you really
(36:41):
can't guard against. That but the fact the matter remains
is that they will try to at least find somebody
that brings obviously a, draw but also gives THE us
the kind of game that helps them prepare for what
is going to be a pretty Competitive World. Cup and
obviously one of the real things why they Picked charlotte
is because many of The United United states group stage
games are set to take place either out west or
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away from The East, coast so this might be the only,
chance or at least it's the most likely chance that
somebody gets to potentially see The United states in The East.
Coast and the great thing about this too is kb
this is the first game that THE us will play
After Mauritio putchatino names his final. Roster you don't have
to name the roster necessarily until the tournament, starts but
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he has made the at least choice to, say, look
the last two games that we, Play i'm taking in
my actual roster to try and simulate as closely AS
i possibly can what A World cup game will look
like for. Us so from that, perspective the people you
will see In charlotte On may the thirty first will
be the team that you see play in the group
(37:46):
stage and hopefully.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
Beyond, okay so just before we move on real. Quick
the season's, over of, course but what's the latest in
The CHARLOTTE Fc universe's what's going on as of late
we wait until The january transfer window to.
Speaker 5 (37:58):
Open obviously there's a lot of people kind of wondering
what moves and shakes will. Happen, obviously the biggest need
right now From charlotte's perspective is who replaces The Dilson.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Milanda that's the, big big. Question.
Speaker 5 (38:12):
Obviously the news of Pet biel's contract becoming a dosignated
player contract obviously Affords CHARLOTTE fc a lot more of
that kind of spending from the tam. Level but there's
obviously a big question in terms of whether or not
they keep all three of the guys who are designated
players for them in that, designation and that big QUESTION
i think surrounds lee El aabata whether or not he
(38:34):
stays With charlotte V. C if they move on from,
him then then obviously Puts charlotte of ceed a position
where they can end up acquiring another big time. Player and,
also you, know one of the Things Zorn connets said
is that he wants to get two starter level players
in to this.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Team whether that means obviously the.
Speaker 5 (38:52):
Center back position is the one of, them AND i
guess the other one kind of depends on what they
want to. Get do they want to get a box
to box midfielder or do they want to upgrade right
Wing in terms of Where caro When vargas, sits that's
not necessarily a denigration on Where caro When vargas. Sits
BUT i think at the same point in, time they
need some more dynamism and they need more consistent goal.
Scoring that's one thing that they did not have a
lot of in the. Postseason when you go against these
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bigger teams that are trying to run and go and
buy FOR Mls. Cup you're always looking to, upgrade and
SO i think there's a lot of people kind of
very curious in terms of how they go about doing their.
Business and we'll be watching as the accoulendar turns In.
January Will polochic with us for a weekly. Conversation let's
turn to the.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Hardwood last, night The knicks beat The hornets, again second
time in a. Week not quite as ugly this, time
but not that far off. Either twenty seven to twelve after,
one not an ideal. Start then The hornets come roaring.
Back they score thirty five in the second quarter to
make it a. Game but then The nicks in the
second half ANOTHER i think twenty point, run a thirteen,
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minute eighteen point run where they really put the game
away and it proved to be. Decisive you, Know LaMelo
was really good last. Night they're still Without. BRANDON i,
mean what do we say of him after a loss like.
That it's the weird. THING.
Speaker 5 (40:02):
KB i don't want to say the game was lost
after the first, quarter because they had it cut all
the way down to three by the time they got
that twenty six to nine run at the end of
the second. Quarter before that was thwarted By Jalen brunson's
buzzer beating. Three so from that, perspective you, know they
showed a lot of energy to try to come back
and get themselves back to, square but it was just
(40:24):
so big of a hole that by the Time New
york got their sea legs again in the third, quarter
it was just too much for them to. OVERCOME i
Thought Miles bridges was not his best last, night hasn't
been for the last two, contests as part of the
reason why you saw T John salon in the lineup
more down the stretch than you saw, him and that's
AFTER T john had a very horrific start to the.
Contest LaMelo probably played one of his two best games
(40:45):
of the, year the other one being the thirty eight
point performance Against, washington but unfortunately had nobody had run with.
Him AND i love the analogy That Sam farber used
on The network post. Game he, said, look you, know
we Want LaMelo in his best to be a, conductor
but when the conductor is, down you, know his first two,
chairs you don't necessarily have the right orchestra set up to.
Play so from that, perspective you, know we, wait we, Wait,
(41:07):
obviously the news On brandon after what it seems like
a setback with a left, shoulder and obviously the injuries
To Colin sexton And Ryan kalkbrenner are not welcome. Sites
the one welcome site to for them, though is the
fact that it does look Like Josh green is back
on the, floor so that reinforcements could potentially come. There
but it does seem like anytime you get good injury,
news it's always followed by BAD.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
Kb, yeah it does feel that. WAY i, mean you
Mentioned miles a minute. Ago there's been some trade rumors
and rumblings the last couple of days people have asked about.
That nothing THAT i can you, know corroborate with hard
reporting at this. Point but you, know you have players
that are eligible to be traded here in ABOUT i
think eleven. Days well, blank the trade deadline is going
to be. Here they're. ALREADY i, mean how many games
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under five hundred are they?
Speaker 4 (41:49):
Now?
Speaker 2 (41:49):
TAN i believe, right six and? Sixteen SO i mean, Sixteen,
YEAH i don't know what's the what's the threshold at
this moment in the season where you throw the talent
in once again start looking ahead of the future.
Speaker 5 (41:59):
AGAIN i think think the one THING kb is they
want to see what this looks, like and unfortunately they
just haven't gotten that. Opportunity AND i think there does
come a point where you have to kind of, say
you know, what this is not going to get to
where it is the one thing THAT i will say
that they like About bridges is that he is durable
and he is he's. Available that's one thing you can't
really say for anybody else on this roster Save. Conkinipple
(42:21):
he at least has proven that he can play a
DURABLE nba. Season is it always pretty with? Him? No
AND i think, again when this team is, whole he
is probably the fourth or fifth option, offensively particularly when
you think, about you, know the lineups that we were
seeing earlier in the season with you.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
Know, LaMelo, Brandon miles.
Speaker 5 (42:43):
And even you can even go so far AS i
say Conk nipple had even passed him up in the
rotation as well with the way that he'd played. Offensively
so If Miles bridges is your fourth, option that's a
pretty darn good fourth option to. Have it's when he
becomes your first or second, option and that's when you
don't Have, LaMelo brandon or more that that's when The
hornets have looked at him and, said maybe he's not
as consistent as you'd like him to. Be BUT i
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don't want to guess necessarily get rid of a dude
who you can literally put in pen in the starting.
LINEUP i understand that there's obviously a desire to still
be an asset collection Mover Jeff, Peterson but at the
same point in, Time miles has been at least one
of the more consistent guys you can count on the.
Floor it's, obviously you, know in terms of whether or
not they feel like they get to a point where
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it's just never going to be what they want it to.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
Be All, Right BEFORE i let you, go we got
to talk a Little panthers and we get to hear
your take on all Things panthers and the immediate aftermath
of these games on The Postgame. Show but we got
to buy week. Here there's talk this week Of Bryce
young's fifth year. OPTION i would love for you to
weigh in on. That we've had some talk About Derek
brown And Pro bowl voting and his overall recognition Your
missouri Fellow missouri lum and, Friend Kay adams said THAT
(43:48):
dB is Her Defensive player of The year in. Football
what are your thoughts on both those?
Speaker 5 (43:52):
Things, well THE dB Defensive player of The year, THING i,
MEAN i like that he's getting that. PUB i think
if you look at how much this defense has changed
year over, year he is a central focal point as to. Why,
AGAIN i think before this week you would also point TO. J.
C horn being very durable to make that. Happen obviously
did not play last week because of the, concussion BUT
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i think he definitely will get some pub for. IT
i don't know if they'll ultimately win. IT i think
The panthers will have to do a lot more things
on the, field like win the division in order to
at least make that a. REALITY i do Think Bryce
young's earned himself the fifth year option BECAUSE i think
it's at least the easiest way to kick the decision
of whether or not he is your guy a little
(44:35):
bit down the. Road AND i think, too with enough
of these good performances down the, stretch he's at least answered, That,
hey there is a little bit of that magic from
the second half of last year still. THERE i don't
know if it's necessarily there to the point where you're
committing to him long, term but that's at least the
least expensive option visa vis the, cap to at least
ensure that you have somebody who can play starting quarterback
(44:57):
for you for the next two. Seasons you don't know
if we're necessarily talking about a long term extension yet
though For bryce AND i think that again will determine
how year four goes and obviously how the rest of
this year. GOES i Think Mike ky said it best
when he said On, twitter with thirteen weeks IN kb
and we still don't know what this team. Is AND
i think that's kind of the way that we all
kind of thought this year might, go and that there'll
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be some games you win they don't think that you
didn't think they were going to, win and there'll be
some games that they lose that you probably didn't think
they were going to. LOSE i don't think we thought
that the ones that they, won, though we're going to
be against teams that are basically at the top of
THE nfc playoff, Pictures SO i think from that, perspective
you have to be very very pleased that you're in
the hunt going into the final four games of the
season with divisional games that obviously control their. Destiny and
(45:40):
it's a great time to have meaningful football In. DECEMBER,
kb that's All i'll. SAY i hear, that all, right, buddy.
LISTEN i appreciate, You thank you for the. Time as,
always we'll do it again next. Week appreciate, you, Man appreciate,
you of, course the Affable Will, polochik our post game, SPECIALIST, wfnz,
host reporter.
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Speaker 2 (00:41):
Good afternoon, Queen City Sports Radio ninety two seven wf
n z KB and Smoke back for another round and
a loaded show here on a Thursday. Will Pelogic, Willie
p Logic, Willype's back at three forty five. We'll talk
about the big news of Bank of America Stadium getting
a penultimate pre World Cup friendly coming up in May.
He broke that news a couple of days ago. He's
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also our Panthers in Horne. It's postgame extraordinary. We'll talk
about both with him. Trevor Sikima, Pro Football Focus, host, podcaster, reporter,
he does it all. He's back at for twenty five.
We love Trevor Sikima. Okay, he's our buddy. We think
he's great talking football. I don't need to tell you
that to validate him, but that's just what we think
about him. But Pro Football Focus and their grades of
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certain Panthers is certainly not something that a lot of
Panthers fans have loved. As of late, certainly not to
the degree that we love Trevor Sikima, So that will
come up at for twenty five. I want to know
what he thinks about how really Derek Brown in particular
is being treated by the PFF grades. So we'll talk
about that with Trevor Sikima, and already Smoke wants to
jump in on that front. What's going on.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Don't forget JC Horns rinking he's like sixty overall in
the season.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I need an explainer, like as a non analytics guy
who does understand statistics basically, but I just I'll be honest,
I don't understand a lot of what they're doing. I
just needed blaying to me, like them five how their
numbers could come out with. Oh, you know, Derek Brown's
just okay, pretty good, not arguably the best at his
position in the NFL, and I guess the same goes
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for j C Horns. So we'll talk to Trevor Sikhama
about that coming up at four twenty five. Also at
five o'clock, Manny Diz, head football coach of the Duke
Blue Devils, is back as they get set to battle
the Wahoos in the ACC title game. Saturday at the bank,
and we'll bring this up. I'll bring it up with Manny.
He's of course stumping for his team to make the
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college football playoff if they beat Virginia on Saturday night
in the ACC title game, which that is his job.
I realize people have been rolling their eyes at that,
and on what's he talking about. I mean, we got
one four lost team at the back end of the
top twenty five something Roman Harper brought up yesterday. You know,
Iowa sneaking them in to bolster the other Big ten
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teams resume and a five loss duke team while if
they win the title game may end up ranked next week,
and I would, you know, probably imagine they will be
if they win the game, certainly not going to be
near enough. I would think to you know, vault them
into the highest ranked conference champion discussion. That would put
them into the college football playoff. And as you heard yesterday,
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Michael Strickland, the senior Associate commissioner of the Atlantic Coast
Conference in football, said that tie breaker is something they're
going to take a look at this offseason. As you
would expect, I'm sure Manny's going to argue in favor
of it. But you know, Michael Strickland said yesterday, Yeah,
that's something we're going to look at in the offseason
because you're looking at a title game that does not
feature the conference's best team in Miami. So all that
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will come up with Manny Diaz at five o'clock already,
my guy Charisma the Supreme saying Pro Football Focus is
a scam. Well, it's a lucrative scam if it's a scam.
And I want to be respectful to Trevor because you know,
I try to be respectful to everybody. They pay his bills,
that's his employer. And I do think PFF has given
us plenty of content to talk about over the years,
even if I hate a lot of it, They've given
us stuff to talk about, so I am grateful for that.
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I just don't understand the numbers in a lot of
what they do. I don't I've been watching football, covering
football for a really, really long time, and Smoke you
can say the same, and many of our listeners can
clearly say the same. It's just so often what we
see out there, you know, doesn't match up with the
numbers and the values that they place on these players
and I just like an explainer. That's why seven oh
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four five, seven oh ninety six ten, Ja from Mount
Holly says, do you know who owns Pro Football Focus?
I thought Collinsworth did in part? Right at least is
isn't he the majority owner?
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Yeah, which is why we see PFF grades own every
single Sunday night football intro.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
That's true, right? So when I was like when he
asked me that, I was like, is that a trick question?
Is there something I'm not because I thought Collinsworth was
the guy that owned Pro Football Focus? So I mean,
is this like an anti Chris collins Worth thing that
we're going out here Jay from Mount Holly or now
here's a guy he doesn't like me? Chris collins all
right seven oh four five, seven oh ninety six ten
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hit us up on the fan duel text line, Oh,
I do have a fun game to play. You ready
for this? So I got a I had a listener
earlier text me and he said, hey, KB, did you
hear what Max said this morning comparing his husbandry to
that of Kurt Rambis on the show? And I said, yes,
in fact I did, And I thought it was one
of the funniest things that Max, ever said, maybe unintentionally so,
but this morning he's Max railing about Bill Belichick and
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the fact that Jordan Hudson filed this foyer request on
was it Robbie pickerel Evans, the top communication officer with
Carolina Athletics. I've had some dealings with her in the past.
She's very pleasant. I don't know her well, but that
Jordan Hudson had filed a foyer request and that it
was made public, of course, and so everybody sees that
Jordan Hudson is doing a foyer request on the comms
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of the top comms officer at the University of North Carolina,
and everybody thinks, oh God, here we go again. This
girl cannot stay out of the way. And Max railing
on Belichick to get his life under control and stop
letting this tiny, little young woman run his life. And
I think Max right about that. But then somebody clapped
back at Mac and said, well, hey, Max, getn't that
kind of rich considering your wife runs your life? And
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I thought Mac had the retort he said, no, no, no,
The difference is that my wife runs our family like
Magic Johnson running the break for the showtime Lakers. I'm
more like Kurt Rambis, you know, picking up the dog poop,
taking the trash out, things like that, and I did.
I thought it was absolutely hilarious, and somebody asked me
to do the same. They said, KB, what athlete would
you compare yourself to in terms of being a husband?
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And I thought that was funny, And for some reason,
the first name that came to mind was Jalen Hurts,
because like, it's not always pretty, I'm not always doing
it the exact right way, but damn it, I'm gonna win.
And I think she respects that, and she's really Howie
Roseman who puts it all together. So that was like
my first thought is that I'm Jalen Hurts and my
wife is Howie Roseman. I guess right now it's not
going too well after the last comes. Okay, fair enough,
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fair enough. Maybe that's not the most timely comparison for that,
but if you, as listeners had to compare yourselves as
husbands and fathers in particular, I'm not trying to omit
the ladies, but we are a male dominated audience if
I'm being honest about it. If you had to compare
yourself as a husband as a dad to a pro
to a pro athlete, would it be? And why? I
think the why in this is what's going to produce
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the funniest stuff on the FanDuel text line. But and
it could be you know, it could be hoops thing too,
like it could be a basketball comparison. That's fine. But
if you want to compare yourself to an all time
great athlete as a husband as a father, I would
love to hear it. Because when Mac said Kurt Rambis
this morning, I spit out my coffee a little bit
because I thought that was absolutely hilarious. So anyway, seven
oh four or five seven oh ninety six ten, Battle
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Nation said, you're not George Foreman, KB. No, there's a
tush push joke in there somewhere. Though.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
For me with the Jalen Hurts comparison, I was gonna say,
you didn't name your kids Kyle or Kyle and Kyle,
so I think you're off the list of George Foreman.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Oh god, it's funny, man, Oh it's really funny. So
seven oh four, five seven oh ninety six ten hit
us up on the FanDuel text line. The acc absolutely,
I mean, drop the ball a crap the bed, like
what six' three advantage in the ACC Sec challenge after night?
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One and all they had to do was what win
three of the games last? Night? Yep to win the? Series.
Yep and they lose all but one of. Them that's,
It thank, You. VIRGINIA i. Guess by the, Way Ryan
odaman company off to a, tremendous tremendous start At. Uva,
okay just incredible and what he's done so. Far now
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we knew he was a good, coach but off to
a seven and one. Start they Handled texas last night
and it was an impressive win for everybody else it
was just blah AND nc. STATE i know that this
was always gonna happen With Will wade if he didn't start.
Fast with all the. Trash this dude was talking all
The Van Allen lubin, comments all the you, know backhanded.
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Shots it seemed To Hubert, davis you know he better
live up to, it, Right better live up to. It
better come out, swinging you know not you know What
i'm talking. About and they just after THE maui going
one and two, there and then last night in a
game where like, defensively, man they look absent plutely. Lost,
okay just like The, hornets by the, way who will
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get to, turnovers, Right but For, state they forced turnovers
and turn them into twenty two. Points. Okay so you
would think if you saw something like that in the stat, line,
well you, know they're probably gonna be. Okay but they
weren't okay last. NIGHT i mean it was early back
and forth in that game that we had a couple
of huge. Swings state actually led in that game eighteen
to eleven by forcing some turnovers themselves getting. Downhill Then
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auburn answers with a seventeen to two run to flip the,
game and THEN Nc state fires back with a thirteen
to ozho run of its. Own so you had these
wild momentum. Swings tigers lead it by six at the,
break AND Nc state never led. Again After auburn sees
control late in the first, half there was a killer
second half. Stretch midway through the second, Half auburn goes
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on a ten ohero run fueled mostly By Keshawn, hall
to push that lead to double, figures which effectively decided the.
Game last, Night auburn just put on a shooting clinic
in this. One fifty nine point one percent from, field
twelve of twenty two from. THREE i think they missed
eighteen shots all night. LONG i mean you compare that
TO Nc state's forty point six percent overall. SHOOTING i
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mean you're spotting them eighteen to twenty points off of efficiency.
Alone Kevin overton twenty nine, points nine, rebounds six of
nine from. THREE i Mentioned Keyshawn hall twenty eight and
ten five of seven from. Three those two guys combined
for fifty seven Of auburn's eighty three points and eleven
of their twelve made threes last. NIGHT i don't want
to reduce it to only two, guys but you could
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clearly make the argument today smoke that two dudes for
The Auburn tigers last night beat THE Nc State. Wolfpack
And wolfpack fans, TODAY i think are, rightly really frustrated
and irritated by. It By it's one thing to lose
to losing Two auburn on the road last several, years no, crime,
right that's not a. Crime but you get beat by two,
guys and, Defensively state just looked lost all night, long didn't?
Speaker 3 (10:53):
They they definitely, did and it was just one of
those situations where they Basically oftron forced them to play
one style and one style, only and that was shooting three.
Pointers especially when you got into last seven eight. MINUTES i,
mean it just felt, LIKE i think up until the
last minute when it was clearly, over they were just
shooting threes as quickly as, possible and then it would
run into going off the back iron long rebounds For
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auburn didn'ty go to the other, end they get a
bucket or they shoot a. Three some of it Was
auburn just could not. Miss that was part of, it
but it just felt Like state was also helping. Him it's, like,
yeah we can make this a little, closer, Bro we're
gonna take a stupid shot.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Here, yeah let's do this here instead of doing.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
That and it was just one of those situations WHERE
i Think state kind of panicked a little too quickly
in that scenario to where if they didn't panic as
much and maybe just try to get you, know good
looks and even if it took fifteen twenty seconds, longer
they probably should have done. That and it just it
just steamrolled into the second half Where auburn had firm
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control of, it and you, KNOW i looked OUT i
Saw Jeff goodman say last night on The field of
sixty eight, podcasts maybe we Crowned you, know a lot
of people crowned This Will wade air AT Nc state
a little too, Quickly AND i think there is truth to.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
That.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Absolutely DO i think That Will wade and N C
state is still going to be pretty good this?
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Year? Yes.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
DO i think maybe a lot OF Nc state fans
saw so much hype that they felt the hype was
it got to the point WHERE i think the hype
was a little bit too higher than it needed to
be for year. ONE i think in the long, Run
Will wade's going to be their. Guy Will wade's going
to get them into deep tournament. Runs BUT i never
thought this year was going to be the year where
they go in a deep tournament. Run AND i think,
unfortunately due to the hype that we saw From Will
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wade and all the guys they, got especially Getting Darien,
williams they probably felt that they were going to be
like a second weekend. Team BUT i look at this
year as a year or as long as you make
the tournament, period it's a. SUCCESS i still think that's
on the. Table but the last week is kind, of you,
know showed a lot of cracks in the armor that
this is a flawed. Team BUT i think it's a
flawed team that can still get Into march and play tournament.
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Basketball but, UNFORTUNATELY i think a lot of people bought
the hype thinking they're gonna be a second weekend team
or even a god Help final fourteen, potentially AND i
just think now they're feeling like to get an egg
on their, face especially after the like. This if they
didn't have any problems In mali and then they lost this,
GAME i don't think we're talking anything ABOUT Nc state right.
Now if we're being, Honest it's, like, oh lost To,
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auburn YET i kind of. Sucked performance was kind of,
Shaky but then, Again auburn hasn't lost a non con
home game there since twenty. Fifteen you just chalk it
up to. That but since you lost two games In,
maui one of those being To Seaton, hall and didn't
you have that performance yesterday Against, auburn it's kind of
making people panic a little. Bit AND i just think
maybe the panickings so we're kind of going in our
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direction to one way being too, reactionary too do you
get away being too. REACTIONARY i just kind of keep
yourself in the. Middle AND i hope a lot Of
state fans realize you got to keep yourself in the.
Middle if we're still having these problems in Late january Early,
FEBRUARY i get, it but we're in Early. DECEMBER i
wasn't expecting the biggest thanks from Wild wade in year.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
One, well, no LIKE i. Didn't that's the thing, IS
i really hadn't thought that much about WHAT i expected
from them in the first month of the season because
it's the first month of the college basketball. Season he's
in a new, Place he's brought some players with him
that he, knows some that he, doesn't and you, know
we've seen it's it's a routine thing each and every.
Year you, know we watch lots of teams start out,
slow get better throughout the course of the, year you,
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know improved Through, christmas conference play, starts and you, know
we'll see where they. Go that's the thing about This Will.
Wade it's one of those microwave reaction type things that
we do in in, sports and we're you, know we
can do it, too but it's one of those things
that you, know and we got to see what's what
Is Will wade right? Now okay what right? Now he
hasn't done exactly what we think he'll be eventually right.
Now so, MAN i, mean look At Will. Wade what
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a disappointment that guy can't. Fault they're probably going to be,
fine you, See wolf says The pack will be. Fine
these guys just played their eighth game. Together that's. It,
Like i'm not A state, fan So i'm not really
in The i'm not inclined to just defend him just
to defend. Him he's not my. Coach BUT i do
believe they're one hundred percent going to be. Fine ryan
From Historic monroe Says Will wade has talked to, talk
but as A state, Fan i'm not overly concerned right.
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Now it takes time for teams to gel with all the.
Transfers definitely think they will get it together by acc
play and get into the. Tournament tyson just, said y'all
acting Like Will wade Is. God who ALL i go
on is the guy's track. Record he's won everywhere he's
been at places that are not basketball. Powerhouses by the, way.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Right, well OH, vcu but YEAHS, Lsu, yes, yeah, Well
i'm talking TO, Lsu that's WHAT i. Mean, SORRY i
should have clarified BECAUSE vcu is one of the best
mid major schools in all of college.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Basketball BUT i think what you're said when, well y'all
acting Like Will wade Is. God, Okay, well he's one
of several coaches to win AT, vcu wasn't there that,
long only three years went TO. Lsu far from a
traditional basketball, power although they have produced some guys over the,
Years shaquille O'Neil comes to, mind but it's. Not it's
far from a traditional college basketball. Power it takes, them you,
know to the MULTIPLE NC Doublea tournament. Appearances when's McNeese
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state's first EVER NC Doublea tournament, game turns that program
around almost. Immediately SO i don't think anybody's acting like He's.
God but when a guy has one and been to
THE Ncaa tournament in multiple, places including non traditional basketball power,
STOPS i think he's doing a certain level of respect
and benefit of the. DOUBT i think that's a fair
way to put. It, YEAH i think that's a fair
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way to put it. Too and, Like i'm not gonna
panic Over louisville losing To arkansas last. Night that was
a you, know not great BECAUSE i automatic put that
in as A w For. Louisville BUT i think now
that you saw something That louisville has a problem. With
and this is where looking at the ACC's performances last,
NIGHT i locked it looked At louisville And i'm, like
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that looks like a team that's going to have trouble
Against North carolina And duke because where did they struggle
on the? Glass Where's carolina And duke at the strongest the? Glass?
Yeah down.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Low i'm looking at This louisville team, like all, right
you're gonna have to really shoot yourselves out of the
gym to make sure that you can Beat duke In
North carolina this.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
YEAR i also look At.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Virginia virginia looked like they could be the same role
That louisville was in last. Year, Now Ryan otoms got
that Team hummond in year one, already and they Blanked
texas In.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Austin that was a statement win From virginia last.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Night even If texas is not the best, team And
i'll also say, this they may not be the best
team out, There they may not be the flashiest team
But clemson's still going to Be it painted a butt
for a lot of people because they came back from
a fifteen point deficit and we're going toe to toe
of a really Good alabama team on the. Road, unfortunately
they couldn't hit their shots, late And alabama finally got
the three point shot going within the final six. Minutes
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BUT i looked At, Clemson i'm, like all, Right clemson's
still going to be a pretty good team this year.
Too so even though THE acc craft the bed last,
night uh and didn't win the SEC Acc, challenge it's
a clear step up from what it's been the last
three to four.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Years AND i think that's a good.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Sign if You're Jim phillips inside THE acc offices today seven.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Oh four or, five seven ninety six to, ten hit
us up on the fan duel text. Line we got
a lot to get To willie p coming up in
twenty six, minutes a lot to catch up on with.
Him we got to talk Some panthers as. Well when
we come. Back Sports radio ninety two to SEVEN wf
and zus a ridiculous way in that. Set See i'm
from The. South some of the most beautiful things come
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out my mouth and how those.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
Days, yes this someone doesn't have come out of my,
house so as we'll give them something.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Which radio ninety two to seven w f n Z
kb and. Smoke hanging out with you here on A.
Thursday we Got willie back in twenty. Minutes Trevor sikima
Of Pro Football focus is in at four twenty. Five
we'll talk a lot Of panthers IN Nfc south with.
Him he's A charlotte, resident he covers the league at,
large and he's also born and raised In tampa and
covered The Tampa Bay buccaneers for many. YEARS i think
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for The Pewter report If i'm not, mistaken which.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
By the, way is a deep cut name because that
was the color of the uniforms and is the color
of the uniforms for The bucks yet Again oh.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Yeah yeah. No so we'll talk about that with him
and get his thoughts on how the division plays. Out
five o'clock many d as head football coach of The
Duke Blue devils will stop. By also big shout out
To Austin corbett of The Carolina, panthers who was celebrated
by the team as The Walter Peyton man of The
Year award nominee for the. Team i've had a few
people texting to ask about. Us are we gonna talk
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about him winning the? Award he did not win the.
Award he, might but he's been nominated by The panthers
as their nominee for The Walter Peyton man of The Year.
Awards so congrats To Austin. Corbett that's really. Cool why
it seems like there's a lot of offensive linemen that
it Was Bradley boseman a couple of years. Ago i'm
trying to think it was last. YEAR i gotta go
back and, look, well was It Darek? Brown last?
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Year was IT? dB?
Speaker 2 (19:28):
YEAH i think it might have. BEEN i know he
was one. Year.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Yeah but then, Again Austin corbet's already won because we
all saw who announced made the announcement to. Him it
was a video From Robert chijulio And James headfield Of
metallica Telling austin he had been nominated by The Carolina.
Panthers oh, YEAH i mean he's at the driver's seat.
ALREADY i, mean that's probably the coolest announcement you can.
Get two members Of. Metallica oh, dude was It Jims
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headfield in what?
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Trujillo is? That Robert? Trigulio, yeah is it? True? Hello or?
True is? True? Hell?
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Right?
Speaker 2 (19:57):
True? True? Hell yeah True. Helio there's two. L's if
it's It's, spanish you don't there's no, okay no L,
no it's. Okay it's all, right you, know because he
Replaced Jason newstead after he left in two. Thousand mmmm.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
So and by the, way he also was a guitarist
at one point For Ozzy. Osbourne for some, REASON i
thought you Meant Austin. Corbett, no he was definitely not
the guitarist For Yeah My Head Got twisted. Rappers S,
hey just Remember Hulk cogan said he tried out From
metallica in the. Eighties, uh let's, Say, oh we had
a textor who would be The Walter Payton man of
The year at w f N.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
Z Not.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Fitty i'll go with Not. Fitty how about? That that's
my answer for that. Canon uh, Yeah i'll Go. BOOMER
i Like. Boomer i'll Throw hoggard in there. TOO i
think it has to do with, Philanthropy SO i think
we're stretching the bounds of the award a little. BIT
i don't know how Much colin's giving to. Charity but
if you consider us, charity Then colin should be Our
Walter Payton man of The year. Nominee let's go to
the phone lines real. Quick kevin has a husband. COMPARISON
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i love, It? Kevin what's going?
Speaker 5 (20:51):
On?
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Hey how you got? Good what's going? On the question was.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
A?
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Husband who who would you?
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Give? Yeah which?
Speaker 1 (21:01):
GUN i was?
Speaker 2 (21:02):
At ac from? ME i can't wait to hear. This
why are you A? C? Green because he wasn't? Great
wait to a lot of things, GOOD a lot of things.
Good and he never missed a, day never missed a.
Day it never took a day off at that. Far
there you, go there you. GO i like. It thank, You.
KEVIN i appreciate the phone. Call OH i love a
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Good Ac green. Reference that's really if you missed. It
matt compared his husbanding skills this morning To Kurt, rambis
called his wife the. Magic johnson of the show said
she ran the family like magic ran The Showtime lakers fast,
break and he compared himself To Kurt, rambis AND i,
said that's a fun game to compare yourself to either
a FORMER nba tandem or like a quarterback head Coach
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combo in THE. NFL i went with me and my
wife As Jalen hurts And Howie. Roseman that's What i've
got so, far Seem, mixer Said Dion. SANDERS i backtracked
fast and play. Defense that's that's a really good. Answer
Cheeter dave Says Larry. BIRD i just give them a, Look.
OKAY i like. That overly Optimistic holmer, Said I'm Paul.
Skeens i'm the only one carrying the. Team but we
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aren't making it. Far all, Right, well we now know
who's gonna be sleeping on the couch. Tonight that's REALLY
i knew. THAT i knew the why in these would
be fantastic Easy math, said my wife is Pat. Riley
i'm just on a one year contract every. Year that's a.
Goodism oh that's really really. Good that's really really. Good
Oh am it says that T bone said he's more
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Like Ac green this. MORNING i didn't hear that part that.
ONE i missed. IT i must have been laughing At
matt comparing himself To Kurt. Rambis that's. FUNNY a few
people Like adam And gastonia are insisting THAT i am
Not Jalen, hurts But i'm Instead Jake. DELONE i even
got An Antonio camarti in, there which is. Funny But
i'm nowhere close To Antonio comarty in terms of offspring
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that and you've you've kept it one your mono, True
BUT i also SE i. DON'T i also can't match
him at foot. Speed but that's, Okay i'll take. It
let's see. Here ken, Says i'll call Myself Bob barker
As i've given away money due to a. Divorce, okay
now now we're stretching the rules just a little. Bit cakillac,
Says I'm Bernard pollard and my wife is Ed. Reid
she's A hall Of famer. Undisputed BUT i have my
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moments when you least expect, IT i do something epic
like Taring brady's. Acl wow that got dark there at the. End, Wow,
Hey Bernard pollard could also do a. Split oh Dear god,
smoke look at this one three three to zero Number
young's Tall ohio checking. In I'm Andy dalton Because i'm
on my fifth marriage and it ain't going. Well these
(23:31):
are really really good seven oh four five SEVEN o
ninety six. Ten if you could compare yourself to a
pro athlete as a husband or even you know a
great tandem and sports husband wife edition what you. Got
it's the why THAT i think really make these seven
oh four five SEVEN o ninety six ten would love
to hear from.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
YOU i also, think you, Know max Kurt rambis is
good because you Know Kurt, rambis he wasn't, special but
he had like a special moment every now and. Then you,
know you think about the infamous moment THE Nba finals
where he got. Clocked that was a special. MOMENT i
Got lakers fans to rally even here In Charlotte, christmas
(24:09):
The Christmas miracle against The Jordan bulls in nineteen eighty,
eight the first Time jordan had played in THE nba
here In. Charlotte, Sure Kurt rambis got the tip in
to win the game in nineteen eighty eight to upset The.
Bulls the FIRST i would say great moment In Charlotte
hornet's history is because Of Kurt. Rambis you, Know ma's
not really, flashy but he'll have a moment every now
and then that.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Makes it go that's great right.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
There, Yeah it's like he'll eventually get a prediction, right
or he'll break his chair live on the.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
RADIO m mail From. Charlotte i'm The caro a lot Of,
Panthers i'm still looking for a franchise. Quarterback, okay all,
right you know, what let's if we can't go a
full segment without somebody taking a swipe at the. Quarterback
i'm the first of, ALL i, said a, player not a.
Franchise he, Says i'm still looking for a. Quarterback we,
are you said to me before the, Show like we both.
(24:55):
Acknowledge for The, panthers this bye week came at a
pretty good time all things. Considered it's still not where
you would want to have a bye week if you
could choose before the, season you don't want to have
to wait until week. Fourteen but, again given the, circumstances
it does seem like this is coming at an opportune
time For, carolina AND i think we feel that way
much more so because of the, win, RIGHT i, mean
(25:17):
going into the bye week with a win is universally
going to make you feel better about your football team
than going into a bye week with a loss and
the fact that they're still sitting above five hundred and you,
know not below five hundred for the first time since
what week, four five? FIVE i guess, Right, no they
were one and three and then fought their way. Back
(25:37):
they won three, Straight SO i guess it's been Since
week six that this team was, under you, know at
or below five. Hundred so, anyway point, being it is
kind of weird that we're off the rhythm because once
we get typically into this stage of the, year well,
honestly we're talking a lot about the draft and the
offseason and what's coming up and who might be fired
and what kind of coach or quarterback or general manager
they're looking. For but like for the second consecutive, offseason
(26:00):
we will be going into that long desert of an
offseason where we're not talking about wholesale. CHANGE i don't
think like. That that could be you, know tinkered with
a little bit depending upon how the quarterback plays these
next four. Games but that's. Good so What i'm driving
at those smoke is we're sitting here, today no game this.
Weekend we're going to sit back and watch everybody else
(26:22):
play Before carolina comes out of that buy against The.
Saints you ARE i won't call you the king of
predictions BECAUSE i don't want your head to swell any
more than it already. Is, well PLUS i got the last.
ONE i wasn't going to point that, out but we
all get them. Wrong but you're pretty good at, prognosticating
or at least very good at factoring in historical context
for The panthers and then making educated guesses as to what.
(26:43):
Happens are you afraid of The saints game coming out
of it because of what happened last, time because of
the rocky nature of this team week to? Week or
do you think that after a signature win against the
NFL's best, team a week to get, healthy controlling your
own destiny with everything on the, line that this team
comes out firing against The saints In New orleans in
(27:04):
ten days or whatever it. IS i think it's ten.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Days, well it's kind of hard to guess what this
team will do after to, by just because we're still
in year two Of Dave, canal so we only have
one data point to see what they do after. Bye
they did lose that game last year After, dubai but
it was against The, chiefs but they played them, close
which was a, big a big you, know not to
say moral, victory but it was a, big you, know
sign of improvement that they took went toe to toe
(27:27):
of The, chiefs and it took a game winning field
goal to win that, game even at. HOME i think
this team understands the situation they're in and they know
that they can't lose to this team, twice nor do
they want. To AND i, think, well of course they
don't want, to BUT i can't see this team letting
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that happen. Again SO i think they're gonna win this.
Game and there's been times in the franchise's history where
they lose to The. Saints now that both of these
times that, happened it was In week, one this was
In week nine to.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Ten then it.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Happened but you go back into nineteen ninety, nine the
year where they The saints made to trade and gave
up the whole entire draft For Ricky. Williams believe it or,
not the first game Of George cea For day lost
that game against The. Saints then they played again On january,
second two, thousand When jake delomb was the starting quarterback
for The, saints and they walloped. Them the last game
Of dika as the head coach two thousand and, five
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they lose to The saints in the, opener last second
field goal the first game After. Katrina then they play
again In. December carolina blitzes them In Death valley In.
Louisiana SO i just Think carolina's going to bounce back
and win that. Game AND i also think they're going
to beat The, seahawks just Because seattle going from The
west coast to The east. Coast don't know what time it,
(28:43):
is but it feels like it's going to likely be
an afternoon. Slot and also when most of the time
when The Seattle seahawks come here In, december WHICH i
think it's only been, Twice carolina's won one time and they've,
lost but they've played them close both. TIMES i just
feel Like carolina in a close game this, year they've
been one score, game SO i take. Them the real
question is what do they do against The, Buccaneers and
(29:04):
right NOW i feel like the safe bed is to
say they split.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Split with The. Bucks, yeah do you think they split
the rest of the? Way, NO i think you did
three and? One three and, one, okay, okay, Okay, Sorry
that's that's HOW i THINK i feel about, it AND
i really want to believe that because they're they're coming
off a near identical scenario from The Green bay. Game,
(29:29):
hey you didn't do it on the. Road you went
up To Green bay and you won ugly against The
packers in a game that you. Controlled you executed the
game plan that you wanted to execute that, day and
so you're riding. High you've got the attention of THE.
Nfl oh look At carolina, now and then you lay that.
Egg so they're in a near identical, scenario but you
insert a bye week in. Between SO i want to. Believe, hey,
(29:50):
guys look what remember what happened to us against this
exact same, team you, know feeling ourselves reading the press.
Clippings you, know we can't let that happen. Again we
got everything in front of. Us we just proved who
we can. Be this has to be a grown up.
Win we talked about those in terms of THE nets
win or THE nets game with The hornets a couple
of nights. AGO i get, it we all get, it
(30:11):
slightly different, scenarios but you got to have a grown
up win here In New. Orleans you've got to have
a good week of, practice great week of, preparation the motivation,
like these are pro, athletes and a lot of them
will tell, you you, know motivation shouldn't necessarily be what
drives you every week you're a pro, athlete but it
does factor. In so all of that put, TOGETHER i
want to believe they go handle business against The, saints
(30:34):
get to eight and six with three to, go two Against,
tampa and then maybe that's the moment where you feel, Like,
okay we've exercised those demons of being really. Inconsistent we
strung together back to back. Wins we found a way
to do, it and now we're eight and. Six we
got probably very little margin for, er although it depends
on What tampa does the rest of the, way but
(30:55):
you got you got two games for all of it
to make the playoffs and host of play that's the
other thing we keep talking about making the. Playoffs but
if this team makes the, playoffs it will be in
all likelihood because they win the, division which means a
home playoff game At bank Of America. Stadium AND i
know everybody knows, that but we've talked about it so
much in terms of can they get? There can they
beat The Tampa Bay bucks? Twice? Right can they make
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the playoffs in year, two even though that wasn't necessarily the.
Expectation but we haven't focused, ENOUGH i think on the
potential of hosting a playoff game and what that can
mean for the, fans and what that can mean for
this team as well as they continue to grow and
get better and have those. Experiences so's we all want
a home playoff. Game that should go without, saying BUT
i really would love this team to get the opportunity
(31:38):
for these fans to get the opportunity after this seven year,
drought to host a playoff game At bank Of America.
Stadium let me Get chris in here real. Quick, chris
what's going?
Speaker 5 (31:46):
On?
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Man?
Speaker 4 (31:48):
Yeah living the Dream man calling a week heading. Home
just wanted to say thank you guys for the. COVERAGE
i am taking my wife down In New orleans for
a twenty ninth wedding. Anniversary So i'm really excited to
hear the. Predictions i'm predicting the win, man because we lose.
It itin's it'll be good twenty nine year to the thirtieth.
Year because my wife is we'll. Go but you're telling
(32:08):
me we're gonna. WIN i, said we're gonna win this,
baby we're gonna win this, game AND i went big.
TIME i got row two right behind The panther's bench
and never been To New. Orleans schupberg, stited super pumped
up about this, team and all the naysayers please don't.
Stop we got to have somebody to go against and
to prove wrong like that's what this team. Does so
all the, naysayers keep your voices, loud keep putting the
(32:30):
mouth on.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
This team for.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Me love.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
It, hey you your wife's a football. FAN i, assume,
yeah well she's a me.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
Fan but, Yeah i've god been dragged at the. Games,
Now i've been dragging at games for about ten. Years
and she had a lot more fun in the past
has it been in the last few. Years but, yeah
she's still. Going, man she's she's a keeper for. Sure.
MAN i love her and She's, yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
That's, awesome, Buddy thank you for the phone. CALL i
too took my wife to a football game for an.
Anniversary it was our first, anniversary BUT i also took
my kind of football fan to a football game in our.
Anniversary so it's. Awesome go have. Fun hopefully you come
back with a. Win right, now we go to smoke
on the. Headlines who is? Smoke where is? Smoked where there's,
smoke there's, fire let's. GO i don't know IF i
(33:15):
should read this or, not but my dad just texted
me to declare The panthers are winning. Out he says
they're going four and oh down the. Stretch So randy's
on board with four and oh in the final four.
Games APPARENTLY i would not mind that. WHATSOEVER i would
neither what you got over? There all, Right, well this
is a pretty interesting news.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Here according To Adam, schefter THE nfl and NFL pa
have agreed to a new model for selecting playing services
in stadiums oh one that will require teams to choose
from an improved set of manufacturers and styles for both
natural and synthetic turf. Fields, okay so the players will
(33:51):
have it even into turf, fields they will have a
choice and to say and what type of turf company
they use moving, forward.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Which is, big especially if you play In east The
Third New. Jersey m all, right, listen, well hit a,
break we'll come. Back will polachiic voice Of CHARLOTTE fc
and our post game. Specialist he's our closer here AT.
Wfnz he's The Mariano rivera of WFN, z where we're
headed to the, bullpen our post game, specialist Talking, Panthers
hornets In CHARLOTTE. Fc Next Sports radio ninety two seven
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(34:43):
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Outside we're trying to keep you warm and keep you.
Company Trevor sikima will help us do. That in about
thirty five, minutes we'll talk all Things panthers IN Nfc
South Manny, diaz head football coach of The Duke Blue,
devils is back at five. O'clock but right now we
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specialist here at WFN. Z he's Got panthers In hornets post.
(35:05):
Game he's also the voice Of CHARLOTTE. Fc the Affable
Will polachik back with us for A thursday. Conversation willie
pet what's going? On true PROFESSIONAL? Kb just call me
mister postgame. HMM i like, that ALTHOUGH i did just
occur to. Me you're A mets, guy so you probably
don't love The Mariano rivera, comparison, right or do. You, Eh,
Okay i've been. Compared i've been compared to. Worse that's.
(35:26):
Fair who is The? Mets i'm probably stupid for. Asking
this greatest closer In mets history is?
Speaker 5 (35:31):
Who, ooh Probably John, franco Maybe tug, McGraw either of, Those, okay.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
All, right BECAUSE I i paniced for a, second like
who AM i not thinking? Of but, YEAH i guess
that's about, Right, okay either of those? Two all? Right, Sweet,
well it's good to have you, Back Big. NEWS i
think you were the one that broke it a couple
of days. Ago you certainly broke it to. ME i
have worn out the word penultimate on the show this,
week but, uh penultimate Pre World cup friendly coming To
bank Of America stadium This. May what should folks know about?
(35:58):
It it is the second last.
Speaker 5 (36:00):
Game i'll keep you from having to say that word,
again the second to last game that The United states
will play before The World cup. Starts they're going to
play two games In march In atlanta Against belgium And.
Portugal their final game is going to be the week
after the one In charlotte In. Chicago basically a kind
of last little bit tune up there for. Them the
(36:21):
opponent in this game is still yet to be determined
because they're waiting on The World cup, draw which is
many believe anyone, knows takes place, TOMORROW i should say
so from that, perspective once the draw comes, out then
they'll start going through the teams and the machinations and
try to at least prevent it being somebody that they can,
play absent of, course to potential, final which you really
(36:41):
can't guard against. That but the fact the matter remains
is that they will try to at least find somebody
that brings obviously a, draw but also gives THE us
the kind of game that helps them prepare for what
is going to be a pretty Competitive World. Cup and
obviously one of the real things why they Picked charlotte
is because many of The United United states group stage
games are set to take place either out west or
(37:03):
away from The East, coast so this might be the only,
chance or at least it's the most likely chance that
somebody gets to potentially see The United states in The East.
Coast and the great thing about this too is kb
this is the first game that THE us will play
After Mauritio putchatino names his final. Roster you don't have
to name the roster necessarily until the tournament, starts but
(37:25):
he has made the at least choice to, say, look
the last two games that we, Play i'm taking in
my actual roster to try and simulate as closely AS
i possibly can what A World cup game will look
like for. Us so from that, perspective the people you
will see In charlotte On may the thirty first will
be the team that you see play in the group
(37:46):
stage and hopefully.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
Beyond, okay so just before we move on real. Quick
the season's, over of, course but what's the latest in
The CHARLOTTE Fc universe's what's going on as of late
we wait until The january transfer window to.
Speaker 5 (37:58):
Open obviously there's a lot of people kind of wondering
what moves and shakes will. Happen, obviously the biggest need
right now From charlotte's perspective is who replaces The Dilson.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Milanda that's the, big big. Question.
Speaker 5 (38:12):
Obviously the news of Pet biel's contract becoming a dosignated
player contract obviously Affords CHARLOTTE fc a lot more of
that kind of spending from the tam. Level but there's
obviously a big question in terms of whether or not
they keep all three of the guys who are designated
players for them in that, designation and that big QUESTION
i think surrounds lee El aabata whether or not he
(38:34):
stays With charlotte V. C if they move on from,
him then then obviously Puts charlotte of ceed a position
where they can end up acquiring another big time. Player and,
also you, know one of the Things Zorn connets said
is that he wants to get two starter level players
in to this.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Team whether that means obviously the.
Speaker 5 (38:52):
Center back position is the one of, them AND i
guess the other one kind of depends on what they
want to. Get do they want to get a box
to box midfielder or do they want to upgrade right
Wing in terms of Where caro When vargas, sits that's
not necessarily a denigration on Where caro When vargas. Sits
BUT i think at the same point in, time they
need some more dynamism and they need more consistent goal.
Scoring that's one thing that they did not have a
lot of in the. Postseason when you go against these
(39:14):
bigger teams that are trying to run and go and
buy FOR Mls. Cup you're always looking to, upgrade and
SO i think there's a lot of people kind of
very curious in terms of how they go about doing their.
Business and we'll be watching as the accoulendar turns In.
January Will polochic with us for a weekly. Conversation let's
turn to the.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Hardwood last, night The knicks beat The hornets, again second
time in a. Week not quite as ugly this, time
but not that far off. Either twenty seven to twelve after,
one not an ideal. Start then The hornets come roaring.
Back they score thirty five in the second quarter to
make it a. Game but then The nicks in the
second half ANOTHER i think twenty point, run a thirteen,
(39:50):
minute eighteen point run where they really put the game
away and it proved to be. Decisive you, Know LaMelo
was really good last. Night they're still Without. BRANDON i,
mean what do we say of him after a loss like.
That it's the weird. THING.
Speaker 5 (40:02):
KB i don't want to say the game was lost
after the first, quarter because they had it cut all
the way down to three by the time they got
that twenty six to nine run at the end of
the second. Quarter before that was thwarted By Jalen brunson's
buzzer beating. Three so from that, perspective you, know they
showed a lot of energy to try to come back
and get themselves back to, square but it was just
(40:24):
so big of a hole that by the Time New
york got their sea legs again in the third, quarter
it was just too much for them to. OVERCOME i
Thought Miles bridges was not his best last, night hasn't
been for the last two, contests as part of the
reason why you saw T John salon in the lineup
more down the stretch than you saw, him and that's
AFTER T john had a very horrific start to the.
Contest LaMelo probably played one of his two best games
(40:45):
of the, year the other one being the thirty eight
point performance Against, washington but unfortunately had nobody had run with.
Him AND i love the analogy That Sam farber used
on The network post. Game he, said, look you, know
we Want LaMelo in his best to be a, conductor
but when the conductor is, down you, know his first two,
chairs you don't necessarily have the right orchestra set up to.
Play so from that, perspective you, know we, wait we, Wait,
(41:07):
obviously the news On brandon after what it seems like
a setback with a left, shoulder and obviously the injuries
To Colin sexton And Ryan kalkbrenner are not welcome. Sites
the one welcome site to for them, though is the
fact that it does look Like Josh green is back
on the, floor so that reinforcements could potentially come. There
but it does seem like anytime you get good injury,
news it's always followed by BAD.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
Kb, yeah it does feel that. WAY i, mean you
Mentioned miles a minute. Ago there's been some trade rumors
and rumblings the last couple of days people have asked about.
That nothing THAT i can you, know corroborate with hard
reporting at this. Point but you, know you have players
that are eligible to be traded here in ABOUT i
think eleven. Days well, blank the trade deadline is going
to be. Here they're. ALREADY i, mean how many games
(41:48):
under five hundred are they?
Speaker 4 (41:49):
Now?
Speaker 2 (41:49):
TAN i believe, right six and? Sixteen SO i mean, Sixteen,
YEAH i don't know what's the what's the threshold at
this moment in the season where you throw the talent
in once again start looking ahead of the future.
Speaker 5 (41:59):
AGAIN i think think the one THING kb is they
want to see what this looks, like and unfortunately they
just haven't gotten that. Opportunity AND i think there does
come a point where you have to kind of, say
you know, what this is not going to get to
where it is the one thing THAT i will say
that they like About bridges is that he is durable
and he is he's. Available that's one thing you can't
really say for anybody else on this roster Save. Conkinipple
(42:21):
he at least has proven that he can play a
DURABLE nba. Season is it always pretty with? Him? No
AND i think, again when this team is, whole he
is probably the fourth or fifth option, offensively particularly when
you think, about you, know the lineups that we were
seeing earlier in the season with you.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
Know, LaMelo, Brandon miles.
Speaker 5 (42:43):
And even you can even go so far AS i
say Conk nipple had even passed him up in the
rotation as well with the way that he'd played. Offensively
so If Miles bridges is your fourth, option that's a
pretty darn good fourth option to. Have it's when he
becomes your first or second, option and that's when you
don't Have, LaMelo brandon or more that that's when The
hornets have looked at him and, said maybe he's not
as consistent as you'd like him to. Be BUT i
(43:05):
don't want to guess necessarily get rid of a dude
who you can literally put in pen in the starting.
LINEUP i understand that there's obviously a desire to still
be an asset collection Mover Jeff, Peterson but at the
same point in, Time miles has been at least one
of the more consistent guys you can count on the.
Floor it's, obviously you, know in terms of whether or
not they feel like they get to a point where
(43:25):
it's just never going to be what they want it to.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
Be All, Right BEFORE i let you, go we got
to talk a Little panthers and we get to hear
your take on all Things panthers and the immediate aftermath
of these games on The Postgame. Show but we got
to buy week. Here there's talk this week Of Bryce
young's fifth year. OPTION i would love for you to
weigh in on. That we've had some talk About Derek
brown And Pro bowl voting and his overall recognition Your
missouri Fellow missouri lum and, Friend Kay adams said THAT
(43:48):
dB is Her Defensive player of The year in. Football
what are your thoughts on both those?
Speaker 5 (43:52):
Things, well THE dB Defensive player of The year, THING i,
MEAN i like that he's getting that. PUB i think
if you look at how much this defense has changed
year over, year he is a central focal point as to. Why,
AGAIN i think before this week you would also point TO. J.
C horn being very durable to make that. Happen obviously
did not play last week because of the, concussion BUT
(44:14):
i think he definitely will get some pub for. IT
i don't know if they'll ultimately win. IT i think
The panthers will have to do a lot more things
on the, field like win the division in order to
at least make that a. REALITY i do Think Bryce
young's earned himself the fifth year option BECAUSE i think
it's at least the easiest way to kick the decision
of whether or not he is your guy a little
(44:35):
bit down the. Road AND i think, too with enough
of these good performances down the, stretch he's at least answered, That,
hey there is a little bit of that magic from
the second half of last year still. THERE i don't
know if it's necessarily there to the point where you're
committing to him long, term but that's at least the
least expensive option visa vis the, cap to at least
ensure that you have somebody who can play starting quarterback
(44:57):
for you for the next two. Seasons you don't know
if we're necessarily talking about a long term extension yet
though For bryce AND i think that again will determine
how year four goes and obviously how the rest of
this year. GOES i Think Mike ky said it best
when he said On, twitter with thirteen weeks IN kb
and we still don't know what this team. Is AND
i think that's kind of the way that we all
kind of thought this year might, go and that there'll
(45:19):
be some games you win they don't think that you
didn't think they were going to, win and there'll be
some games that they lose that you probably didn't think
they were going to. LOSE i don't think we thought
that the ones that they, won, though we're going to
be against teams that are basically at the top of
THE nfc playoff, Pictures SO i think from that, perspective
you have to be very very pleased that you're in
the hunt going into the final four games of the
season with divisional games that obviously control their. Destiny and
(45:40):
it's a great time to have meaningful football In. DECEMBER,
kb that's All i'll. SAY i hear, that all, right, buddy.
LISTEN i appreciate, You thank you for the. Time as,
always we'll do it again next. Week appreciate, you, Man appreciate,
you of, course the Affable Will, polochik our post game, SPECIALIST, wfnz,
host reporter.
Speaker 2 (45:55):
And voice Of CHARLOTTE fc our number. Two next we
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In 1997, actress Kristin Davis’ life was forever changed when she took on the role of Charlotte York in Sex and the City. As we watched Carrie, Samantha, Miranda and Charlotte navigate relationships in NYC, the show helped push once unacceptable conversation topics out of the shadows and altered the narrative around women and sex. We all saw ourselves in them as they searched for fulfillment in life, sex and friendships. Now, Kristin Davis wants to connect with you, the fans, and share untold stories and all the behind the scenes. Together, with Kristin and special guests, what will begin with Sex and the City will evolve into talks about themes that are still so relevant today. "Are you a Charlotte?" is much more than just rewatching this beloved show, it brings the past and the present together as we talk with heart, humor and of course some optimism.
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