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July 24, 2025 • 44 mins

In the show's opening hour, Kyle Bailey is joined by Clemson HC Dabo Swinney as well as VT HC Brent Pry as both coaches preview the upcoming season for their respective squads, and if the ACC as a whole could be in for a big year.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:28):
Good afternoon, Queen City Sports Radio ninety two seven w
f n Z. Back on a Thursday, Day three of
the ACC kickoff here in Uptown Charlotte, KB with you.
I got my mends to my right here. I got
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(00:50):
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Law dot com. Has been, of course, the most anticipated
day of ACC kickoff here in Uptown. If you've been
listening along throughout the day, certainly if you keep up
with sports here locally, you know that already. But we

(01:11):
got Carolina, we got Clemson, we got Duke here today,
we got Virginia Tech, we got in c State, many
of whom will be represented on this show today. In fact,
we are awaiting the arrival of Dabo Sweeney, head coach
of the Clemson Tigers. They're running just a couple of
minutes behind here, so i'd say sometime within the next
five minutes or so, we expect for Dabo to sit
down and chat with us here on the show for

(01:31):
the first time in a little while. Very much looking
forward to that. Brent Pry, head coach Virginia Tech Hokies,
coming up on a big year for him in the program,
He's gonna stop by at three thirty. And for UNC
State Wolfpac fans, Dave Dorn coming up in the five
o'clock hour, So stick around five twenty five if you
can stick around for you know, the latter part of
the show. Dave Dorn in the five o'clock hour. In

(01:53):
between our buddy eMac, the big fella, Eric McClain, ACC
Network analyst. If you've been watching the coverage on the
ACC Network, he's the biggest guy on your screen. So
Eric McLain's going to stop in, as will the executive
director of the College Football Playoff, Rich Clark, who I
am very very excited to talk about. Once upon a
time was a star linebacker at the Air Force Academy.

(02:16):
Among many things, Lieutenant General Richard Clark, now the executive
director of the College Football Playoff, will stop by coming up,
I believe at five o'clock this afternoon, seven o four five,
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(02:37):
Bailey Club. A lot to talk about, obviously in the
college football world. Panthers training camp plenty coming out of that,
and I do have to acknowledge, of course, the passing
of Hulk Hogan earlier this afternoon, and Smoke, I'm not
saying you called it, and it's kind of a dark
thing to even make this reference too, but you were
right a couple of days ago. It's been a rough

(02:59):
week for you know, the some of the more pop
culture icons of the eighties and nineties, Ozzy Osbourne, Malcolm
Jamal Warner earlier this week, and Smoke. You looked at
me and you didn't say it with any joy in
your voice, that's for sure, But you said, you know,
these things typically come in threes, and you're right about that.
And today I don't know if this was the third

(03:20):
shoot a drop. I don't even think that's the right analogy.
But you know, Terry Belaya aka Hulk Cogan passing away
at seventy one, and to me, this is he's an
American icon in many ways, he's also an incredibly imperfect
was an incredibly imperfect human being, loved by many, hated
by plenty, And to me, it's the epitome of trying

(03:42):
to or having to, you know, separate the art from
the artist. And I didn't know that I'd ever used
that phrase about Hulk Cogan, but you know.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
That's that's the case.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
I mean, I don't know smoke like you know, everybody's
talking about it today. When the news broke a couple
of hours ago. You know, immediately folks saying, man, I
can't believe Hulk Hogan's gone, you know, Folks trying to
figure out what to say about his legacy.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
Some of this I live through and you didn't.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
And we'll talk about it later, you know, uh, but
it we'll have to to have that discussion coming up
in just a bit, because I believe the next guest
on the show is sitting down and I'm gonna stand
up and be polite and shake his hand live on
the air. It's good to see him again. It's been
a couple of years, and Dabosweeney, head coach of the
Clemson Tigers, is about to sit down and have some
fun with us here on radio row. As you might
have heard Kate Klubnick here on w f and Z

(04:31):
about twenty minutes ago. So we'll get his head set
on and once again we will chat with for the
first time I think in a couple of seasons.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
What part of the country am I, brother, You're in Charlotte.
I'm in Charlotte.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
This is this is this is Charlotte, North Carolina radio show. Yes, sir, okay,
this is the one. I mean, listen as often as
you're here. You're basically a hometown guest at this point.
Right How you been coaching?

Speaker 3 (04:53):
Can I?

Speaker 2 (04:54):
I you are And this is not flattery, but you
know you're a two time national champion winning head coach
in one of the faces of college football.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
I've been doing this a long time. You don't have
to do this stuff, but you do.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
It, and you do it with a smile on your face,
and you love representing the program. And I just want
to say thank you for that because we love these conversations.

Speaker 4 (05:09):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
Thank you well.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
So let me talk about your team. And you know,
it felt like I don't know I was listening to
you last year. You have reached the summit of college
football a couple of times, but you still seem incredibly
motivated to get back there.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
What drives you at this stage in your career?

Speaker 5 (05:24):
Just my purpose, you know, I wake up every day
with a purpose as a man and our purpose as
a program. I'm passionate about it, and I just I
love it, man. I love the game. I love the players,
I love the competition. I love you know, putting it together.
I love the challenges. You know, I really love all that.
I mean, you only get this, you know, we only

(05:47):
we only get one.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
Life, right, Yeah?

Speaker 5 (05:49):
And I love I love what I do, and I
love where I do it, and I love who I
do it with.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
I love that answer. What now?

Speaker 2 (05:55):
Your quarterback was just sitting here about fifteen minutes ago
talking to the audience his journey. You know, I'm not
with him every day like you are. But you know,
Eric McLean's a friend of mine. He's been coming on
for years, and I have a lot of friends you
know within the Clemson fandom, I guess, and just the
way they talk about his growth, his maturation, you know,
the way he's assumed the leadership role inside the building
that maybe wasn't necessarily the case when he first got there.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
To characterize that for us, oh yeah, sure.

Speaker 5 (06:18):
I mean, you know, I mean physically, emintally, I mean,
he came in one hundred and seventy five pound kid,
really talented and never lost the game in his career,
three state championships in a row, elead eleven, won the
Elite eleven.

Speaker 6 (06:30):
Life's great and.

Speaker 5 (06:32):
You know, physically a little behind, mentally sharp, and you
know then he we put him in the game, kind
of take the job, and the a SEC championship as
a true freshman, gets MVP, and then he comes back
the next year and man, had a little adversity, Yeah,
turned the ball over, took a bunch of sacks all
of a sudden, there's a criticism. You know, just the

(06:54):
game was fast, and you know how you're going to
respond well and always say, if you've made of the
right stuff, man, it'll shine you up. And and he's
made of the right stuff. And that's what it's done.
Has shined him up. He's done the work. He's two
hundred and seven pounds now, he looks amazing physically. He
is the leader of the team now, you know, because
he's earned it through his work, through his example. And

(07:17):
that's you want your best players to be the best leaders,
most committed guys.

Speaker 4 (07:21):
He is that.

Speaker 6 (07:23):
And you know he's an incredibly committed guy to Clemson.
Just love everything about it.

Speaker 5 (07:29):
Now he's he took coaching and he criticism and all
the stuff, and he came back last year and everything
he needed to do to get better, he needed We
needed him to use his legs. Well he now he
can beat you with his legs, his arm, his mind,
and his heart.

Speaker 6 (07:47):
You know, he can beat you in a lot of ways.
He didn't take many sacks.

Speaker 5 (07:51):
He was much better with his decision making, ownership of
the system, pushed the ball down on the field with
great accuracy, and was elosive with his legs.

Speaker 4 (08:01):
So he took He.

Speaker 5 (08:02):
Did everything we needed to do, and you know that's
what great players do that are really committed, that have talent,
have ability and men.

Speaker 6 (08:10):
It's awesome. And so now we just need more.

Speaker 5 (08:12):
Of the same, just continue that trajectory of improvement in
all those areas. And if he does that and he
stays healthy, we'll be a tough out because he's a
tough out.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
You more or less retired the word clemsoning a long
time ago, and I know you've that's something you bristled
out in the past. And I bring that up because
you know, once upon a time I was in Blacksburg
and I was covering a game the night that you
brought TOAs Boyd and Sammy Watkins into.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
Town in twenty eleven.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
Oh, I was there and it hurt, but I remember thinking,
Dabo's doing something here, and you know, I watched you
grow it and it went from clemsoning to know, this
program's pedigree is playing under the bright lights in the
biggest games and being ready for that. Last year, you
go into the twelve team college football playoff, first time
that anybody's ever seen it. You go on the road.
What was that experience like and what did you draw
from that?

Speaker 5 (08:56):
You know, it was awesome. I enjoyed it. It was
really good for our team. Sometimes, you know, you just
have to experience things to really have the type of
understanding that you need to have the vision. Yeah, and
you know, it's a seven point game in the fourth
quarter with about eight minutes to play, and it's second
and seven and they're backed up, and we got all

(09:16):
the momentum and they run the stretch and we don't
fit it right, miss the tackle. Kid goes eighty yards
and then we come right back down the field, fourth.

Speaker 6 (09:25):
And one on the goal line.

Speaker 4 (09:27):
We punch it in.

Speaker 5 (09:28):
It's going to be four minutes, a seven point game,
and they stop us on the goal line. So very painful,
very disappointing. We were terrible in the second quarter of
that game. But their resiliency on the road in that environment,
the confidence and just being able to see what it's
all about, to smell it, like see the top of

(09:49):
the mountain. If you will get a glimpse of it.
You can't quantify that, you really can't. And so for
them to be able to take that experience into.

Speaker 4 (09:57):
This offseason is powerful. So, you know, I think that.

Speaker 5 (10:02):
They've got a belief and an understanding of what it takes.

Speaker 7 (10:06):
You.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Dabo Sweeney, by the way, head coach with the Clemson Tigers,
he's with us here on radio row. You've all had
good things about your team going into the season, But
I can look back to your title teams and I
can maybe see some slight differences in personnel. I feel
like this roster is as close to that as we've
seen in a couple of years. Is that Is that
a fair assessment?

Speaker 4 (10:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (10:22):
I mean the best teams I've had really good in
the trenches, a quarterback that's proven that people believe in,
really good skill outside and in the back seven. I
think we have that, and we got a kicker who
can win the game. So I think I think on
paper they have the the tangibles, and from my perspective,

(10:42):
they have a lot of the intangibles that our best
teams have had. But you know, you got to go
do it, and we can't dict our way into it.
Nobody can predict our what predictions.

Speaker 4 (10:54):
The ain't gonna get done.

Speaker 6 (10:54):
We got to his performance, so you know they're built,
they're built for it.

Speaker 4 (11:00):
We gotta go, we gotta go work for it.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
Two quick things I get you out of here. I
you know not.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
I guess at this point it is kind of a
while back, but you more or less made a stand.
Does it pertain to inn il portal all that stuff.
We're gonna do things our way now, that we're kind
of entering a new era where it seems like there's
some regulation coming and you know everybody's gonna hopefully be
on the same page. You know, you did hit the portal,
so to speak, but you're still doing things your way.

Speaker 6 (11:21):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
I don't know if this matters to you, But do
you feel vindicated in that choice because a lot of
folks were lobbing grenades at you along.

Speaker 6 (11:26):
Well, listen, I don't. I don't spend my life trying
to prove that I'm right.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
Sure, you know.

Speaker 5 (11:33):
I just spend my life trying to do what I
believe is right, and what I believe is right for Clemson.
You know what's right for Clemson, and that doesn't necessarily
mean that's what's right for somebody else. And I don't
sit around and judge other people. People like to judge me,
but I don't sit around and judge other people about
how they do things.

Speaker 4 (11:50):
So I don't.

Speaker 5 (11:51):
I don't have any like. I don't try to. I'm
not trying to prove I'm right or any of that.
I just, again, I just try to do what I
think is right for our program, for ours and and
and you know, and and I don't always do what's right,
and I make If I make a bad decision, I learned,
I get better from it. But you know, we we
still we do it. We definitely do things the Clemson.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
Way, our way.

Speaker 5 (12:12):
We's what we believe in and uh and we don't
apologize for that.

Speaker 6 (12:16):
We we we really I try to lead with conviction
and not compromise.

Speaker 5 (12:20):
And you know, and we're purpose driven and been that
way for sixteen years and going on seventeen.

Speaker 4 (12:26):
Love it.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
Well, I'm coming up on a decade here in Charlotte.
But prior to that, I was in Charleston doing morning radio,
so I was talking Tigers and Game Cocks.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
Ever okay, and actually grew.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
I've known Shane Beemer for a long time. You know, Greg,
we grew up the next town over. You know, he
is a good guy. He comes on quite a bit.
But I bring that up because I know what the
fan based dynamic is like, right, and I love it.
It's quintessential college football Tigers game Cox fans going at
it all the time. You're authentic, Shane is authentic, right,
You're you are who you are twenty four to seven.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
What's that relationship like that?

Speaker 7 (12:54):
Professional courtesy but also that that competition between the time
is great.

Speaker 5 (12:58):
You know, Shane, Shane actually called me before he took
the job. You know, I've always we've been friends before that,
and just because you.

Speaker 6 (13:05):
Know, I mean, that's just the nature of this business.
I mean, you know, I mean, if I played Tony Elliot,
if I played Brent Vinables, I mean, that doesn't mean
I'm not I want to want to. I'm gonna want
to kick their butt, right and they're gonna wanna kick mine.
But we're for friends.

Speaker 5 (13:18):
And you know, Shane and I are friends, and and
sometimes people.

Speaker 4 (13:21):
Don't like that.

Speaker 5 (13:22):
They want you to hate the guy, and I I mean,
I can't. I can't hate Shane Bemer.

Speaker 6 (13:27):
He's a good, great dude. I really I love his family.
I love his dad. His dad's one of the His
dad was a colleague.

Speaker 5 (13:33):
His dad was one of the best people that I've
ever met in this league and one of the one
of the great examples to me when I came into
the league, you know, seventeen years ago as the head coach.
So uh, well, it's a great ribery. It's fun to
be a part of it, and uh it's better when
you win. That's for sure, but you know, win or lose.
I mean, I've got respect for Shane, he's got respect

(13:55):
for me, and he's gonna run his program out he
sees and I'm gonna do the same. And and we're
gonna meet him year and we're gonna give it all.
We got to win that game.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
Well, look, State Line's ten miles south of here. We
talk plenty about both your teams, and I've been saying
for a while now the state of South Carolina is
going to be arguably the hottest in the country in
college football this year.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
So best of luck to you. I appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (14:13):
Yeah, thank you so much. Good to see.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
Thank you very much.

Speaker 6 (14:15):
Appreciate.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
Dabo Sweeney, head football coach Clemson Tigers, joining us here
on Radio Row Charlotte.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
Hope you enjoyed that. We certainly did.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
If you missed it, if you're just jumping in, we'll
bring it back to you a little bit later in
the show. Seven oh four, five, seven oh ninety six ten.
Hit us up on the FanDuel text line. Dabosweeney stopping
by to kick off the show. Brent Priye, head football
coach Virginia Tech coming up in fifteen minutes. We'll talk
to him about a lot of things, pivotal year for him.
He's got his quarterback, couple of defensive players here today.

(14:41):
That's one of those programs that I know, you know,
ACC fans point two as hey, if the conference is
ever going to get back to being that, that's you know,
truly nationally competitive conference, or however you want to frame it,
you know, one of those programs that needs to get
back to what they used to be. So we'll talk
about that with Brent Priye coming up here in about
fifteen minutes. But do want to acknowledge that Bill Belichick's
press conference took place about an hour and fifteen minutes

(15:03):
ago upstairs here at the Hilton, And if you follow
me on X you probably well listen.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
If you follow anybody on X who.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
Covers college football around here, you've probably seen dozens of
pictures or videos of the press conference at this point.
Truly unlike and I think that's the right way to
put it, Unlike just about any press conference I've been to.
Not outrageous or bizarre or anything. Just the fact that
there were a couple one hundred people, you know, inside
this room and Bill Belichick and a couple of the

(15:31):
you know, Carolina players walk in and it felt like,
you know, a courtroom in a big trial where the
judge walks in and the hush walks over, you know,
comes over the room. And it really was. Now I
think you could say maybe it was a little bit anticlimactic.
There wasn't anything crazy, you know, or earth shattering that
was set inside the press conference itself, but just the
realization I think by everybody in that room that oh,

(15:52):
this is real. Bill Belichick is the head coach at
North Carolina. He's here at acc kickoff, he's addressing the room,
he's talking about how he's going to try to win
football games in Chapel Hill. Josh Marlow's on site engineering
for us this afternoon. I'll bring him in really quickly.
You know, you talk about this team every day. You
talked about it with Mac and Bone this morning, you
talk about it on your Your Heel Tough blog podcast.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
I think I got that right. What do you think
I mean, just.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
The way he's been walking around the building, the way
the press conference went, what did you think.

Speaker 8 (16:19):
I think it's fair to say it's surreal, you know,
because I had some doubts back in early spring, was
he gonna make it this far with some of the
stuff that was going off, you know, going on off
the field. But look, we're six weeks away. He's doing
what he has to do right now. I think he's
itching to get this team into camp, and I know

(16:40):
there's a lot of unknowns and we don't know who's
gonna play what position, and how how's the office in
defensive line gonna hold up. But it's gonna be something
to watch every Saturday. And you got the announcement today
where there's gonna be a special pregame show going into
the game on Monday night against GCU, And so it's
just building that high and that anticipation.

Speaker 4 (17:01):
You and I go back and.

Speaker 8 (17:02):
Forth, and I, you know, I kind of mocked the
Virginia Tech stuff because I'm really just mad that, you know,
Frank Bieber never came to Carolina because I'm a I'm
a guy that wants a big time football in Chapel Hill. Sure,
and we got a taste of that with Mac Brown
in two separate terms. Larry Fedor had a special season,
you had Butcher Davis.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
But it still won't feel the.

Speaker 8 (17:21):
Way it'll feel on Labor day night when we have
the greatest football coach in the history of football on
our sidelines, and I think once we can just get
to football. I think that's now we're network to football.
He's got his relationship, he's got that. But he's a
football coach, sure, and he's a motivated football coach. And
I'm ready to see what he can do because this
schedule thing does allow for them to be a fun,

(17:42):
competitive team from starting to finish.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
Yeah, I think that's Look, that's what they're aiming for.
I don't know. I don't have a great feel for
the roster. Maybe you've got a I'm sure you've got
a better field than most.

Speaker 8 (17:52):
We don't because he doesn't talk, as you learn in
your press conference.

Speaker 7 (17:54):
Yeah, I mean, it's just not a lot there. I mean,
he just just I think that's the way he wants it.
It's my design.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
Like I think they want to come out against TCU
week one, and you know, that's the that's the reveal.
That's when we find out what they have and what
they are at least we will begin to in that
opening week game. But speaking of that, I know that
there was the story last night about ESPN the executives
believing that this will have a this will be like
the Dion effect, right, you know when when Colorado coached
by primetime Deon Sanders, when they aired those games like

(18:20):
A drew massive ratings on ESPN. And I mean, what
are we going to get eight, nine, ten Carolina games
on major ESPN network channels this year? Because I think,
I mean, I know they're looking to capitalize on the ratings.

Speaker 8 (18:32):
With that, you'd imagine so and what a perfect time
with the new revenue sharing model coming to the ACC
and the rating is going to play a factor in
that one a time for Carolina to capitalize because as
long as ESPN can justifiably put them on yeah, ABC
or ESPN at three thirty or later, Caroline is going
to be there. No, they're not an SEC school, but

(18:54):
everyone's gonna want to see what Bill Belichick is doing
in his first season in college football.

Speaker 4 (18:58):
So yeah, I would say.

Speaker 8 (18:59):
The bare minimum eight games where they're gonna be in
a prime viewing window. And that's even if they're a
five hundred team. If they take advantage of the schedule
KB and they win the games that I think they're
capable of winning, that could really push them that eight
to nine, maybe ten win threshold. Sure they're gonna be
playing on primetime as often as any team in the ACC.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
I'm with you, man, a straight pepper Dyet just questioned you.
He said the greatest of all time. Now, I don't
even need you to argue, but I am curious about
something because anytime that gets mentioned about him, there are
those people who push back a little bit if it's
not Bill Belichick as the greatest coach of all time.
And I know we tend to delineate between college football
and the NFL when we have these conversations. If it's
if Bill Belichick is not the greatest coach of all

(19:39):
time to you, and I mean that the proverbial you
out there, then who is it? Seven oh four, five,
seven ninety six.

Speaker 8 (19:44):
Ten, Yeah, I mean for me, it's just you look
at what he did and where he did it in
the era which he did it sure like you know,
thirty two teams, it.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
Was a twenty year dynasty. Yeah, I mean they have
a long break in between.

Speaker 4 (19:56):
In like fourteen AFC championship games.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
Yeah, I mean the modern era.

Speaker 8 (20:01):
And look at the quarterbacks that Brady had to go
through that he denied multiple champions, you know, chances to
win Super Bowls and stuff like that. You can make
the argument for some of the other coaches, but I
think it's just a longevity of greatness. And I know
it kind of derailed after he lost Tom but still yeah.
I mean, we're never gonna see that again in the
National Football League. And I think that if he succeeds

(20:23):
in college, whatever your definition of success is, it's only
gonna further that claim that he's the best football coach
we've ever seen.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
All right, seven oh four, five, seven, ninety six, ten,
at Belichick is not your greatest coach of all time?

Speaker 3 (20:34):
Who is?

Speaker 2 (20:34):
I am just simply curious, kind of sidebar conversation what
most people would say about that.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
We got a lot to get to.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
Brent Prie coming up in ten minutes, Eric McLain, ACC Network.
We got States Dave Dorin stopping by as well in
the five o'clock hour, tons to talk about Live from
ACC kickoff in Uptown. Sports Radio ninety two to seven WFNZ. Oh,

(21:08):
thank you, smoke, This will get me in the mood.
Sports Radio ninety two to seven wf and Z Live
from ACC Kickoff in Uptown with no shortage of things
to talk about Bill Belichick's press conference. If you just
tuned in, you've already miss Dabosweeney Sitting down here on
Radio Row. We got to talk Panthers training camp. Apparently
Chad Ocho Cinco is now not just a Panthers fan,

(21:31):
but he's using WE when talking about the Panthers in
their wide receiver room.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
We got some camp updates to get to.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
Brent Pride, Virginia Tech is expected to stop by here
in the next minute or two. And of course the
passing of Hulkgan today at the age of seventy one,
a conversation that we will get to or get back
to rather coming up in just a bits. The show,
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(21:59):
again Victory Chevro dot Com KB on site. Smoke back
in the Chandler VAULTA studios. I got Fiddy and Flounder
and Colin Hoggard here. You know, it's a big occasion
when we get, you know, all these guys in one place.
Radio Row is buzzing all the coaches, the players, the quarterbacks.
I mean, these guys are coming through talking about the
hopes and dreams of the upcoming twenty twenty five season.

(22:20):
Everybody still zero and zero, Everybody still got the stars
in their eyes and believing that anything is possible, to
quote the big ticket Kevin Garnett. And of course camp
opening up across the acccene next week, so we're getting
close to finding out who's real, who's not, Who are
the contenders and pretenders and things of that nature. So again,
a lot to get to, but real quick, I got

(22:41):
texters as soon as I mentioned it, Smoke reacting to
the Chad Ocho Cinco thing. Did you see this Ocho
Cinco yesterday declaring that the Panthers he thinks, may have
the best wide receiver room in the NFL?

Speaker 3 (22:52):
How about that? Yes?

Speaker 7 (22:52):
And he responded with some bitcher all to someone who
said I can't name three wide receivers on the Panthers roster,
and he named them all. He's like you better get
used to him, better not your name soon, along with
some colorful language. I'm like, yes, I tell you. O
Jo Sinko, his media career has been a fun one
to watch. I know the nightcap has been fun whenever
he does it with Shanon Sharp.

Speaker 3 (23:13):
Hopefully that continues soon.

Speaker 7 (23:14):
Yeah, he's been a lot of fun and it's just
nice to see one of the most entertaining football players
also be entertaining in the media field as well well.
But yeah, I know, I don't know, Like, do I
think they have the best wide receiver room in the NFL?

Speaker 1 (23:28):
Now?

Speaker 2 (23:29):
I don't think that, but I do think that he's
right to highlight just how much talent is in that room.
You know, how it's taken advantage of how Bryce spreads
the football around, how much they ask of Tetora McMillan
to begin his NFL career. I still think that remains
to be seen. Obviously, as a top ten draft pick,

(23:50):
I don't think they're going to take their sweet time
easing him in necessarily, but excel obviously with something to
prove he knows the offense already, same with Jalen Cocher
and Adam Feelin. And then on top of that, you've
got this whole Hunter Renfro question mark that I think
I'm as excited to find out about as anything else
on that offense because I mean, I realized maybe there

(24:11):
wasn't the most robust market for Hunter Renfro this offseason,
but that had most that had everything I think to
do with or mostly to do with the alterative colitis,
the question marks about his health, prognosis and things of
that nature. But as we've talked about throughout the offseason,
if you're getting a fully healthy twenty nine year old
Hunter Renfro back, and you know he's the route runner

(24:32):
that he was coming into the NFL. Boy, that's an
addition that I is sneaky good in terms of depth
and your ability to make plays. What are you snickering at.

Speaker 7 (24:40):
The fact that you're talking about Hunter Renfro and you
said sneaky in the sentence of Hunter Renfro made me laugh.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
Okay, I'm not talking about being sneaky athletic. I'm talking
about the depth of the room, being sneaky good. Come
on now, trying to start something already early in the show,
I see you, But no, I mean, I thought somebody
Carolina Cowboy just said not even top fifteen.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
I I don't know where they rank. I'm not even
sure that I care right now. I just they need
to be better, and I think they will be better.
And I'm looking forward to saying exactly what Tedero McMillan,
you know, or rather what Excel Xavier League get. Does
he come out of the gates sprinting like, does he
you know? Is he coming out a man possessed? Because
I do again think that he's got a ton to prove.
He knows it, He's talked about it, and you know,

(25:21):
we're starting to get a glimpse of that here at
training camp just down the street. So you know, this
is something that I know Panthers fans everywhere really excited
to find out about. And Chado Chosenko apparently thinks this
is the best wide receiver room in the NFL. So,
you know, training camp rolling on. They put the pads
on next week here in Uptown, and we'll have a
lot of detailed coverage of that, a lot of it
out there right now. So we'll get back to to

(25:43):
Bryce Young and the Panthers and training camp down the
street and all that coming up in just a bit.
But right now, it is truly my pleasure to welcome
back the head coach of the Virginia Tech Hokies, my guy,
a man that I am rooting like hell for this
upcoming season, and I do each and every set. My man,
my wife, I tell you what, my dear wife, I
stay pretty calm in most things in life. I got
three toddlers. I work a lot like I'm pretty good

(26:03):
at staying even Saturdays. Man, I'm a lunatic in the
living room. I mean when I'm watching y'all. I just
turned right back into nineteen year old freshman me standing
in the north end zone in Lane Stadium.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
So, man, anyway, how you been. It's good to see it.

Speaker 4 (26:14):
Good?

Speaker 3 (26:14):
Yeah, loosing the tie up here there I did.

Speaker 9 (26:17):
I figured when three point thirty hit it was time
to loosen the tie.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
Yeah. Good for you.

Speaker 4 (26:20):
Man, it's been a good day. It has been.

Speaker 3 (26:22):
It's been a good day. Let me start with this.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
Metallica finally goes to Lane Stadium a couple of months ago.
Finally I couldn't be there, but I was taking it in,
you know, like everybody else on social media. All my
friends are posting videos and images and then I see
the video of you behind the scenes meeting Metallica presenting
the jersey. It's just I still think some people don't
appreciate the moment and what that meant to the community,
to the school.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
What was that like for you?

Speaker 9 (26:45):
Yeah, it was you know, they were so appreciative and
they fully grasped what it meant to so many hokey
faithful which I loved about him. And then obviously the craftsmanship,
I mean they have mastered it.

Speaker 4 (27:00):
And then the production itself.

Speaker 9 (27:01):
In Lane Stadium was unbelievable, but super good guys down
to earth, excited to be there. You know, I'm not
a heavy metal guy, but I'm a metallica guy now yep.

Speaker 4 (27:14):
So it was a great show.

Speaker 7 (27:15):
What do you listen to? By the way, Almond Brothers,
good for you. I grew up on that.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
I had a dad who drove around in an old
Ford Bronco blasting skinnered Marshall Tucker and all the brothers
pretty much to me, I'm.

Speaker 9 (27:23):
A Southern rock guy and it's grown a lot to
some other things, but that's that's the foundation for me.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
Okay, all right now, I will tell you as somebody
who's here, you know, and has a known affiliation to
the school, people often ask me what do you think
about the Hokies this upcoming year? And I don't know,
Like I guess I'm gonna wait and find out like
everybody else. But and I meant what I said a
couple of minutes ago, I'm rooting like hell for you
because you know, not only did I go to school there,
but I grew up there. And it was evident to
me from day one that you care about the place,
You understand the place, you know what it means to

(27:52):
the fans, you know what it means to have to
operate in a different environment than some other programs. So
all that said, thank you for recognizing that. Well, of course,
you know, I mean I think it's didn't anybody who
listens to your talk. But how frustrating was last year
for you? Given expectations. I know you felt good about
your team. It just didn't go the way you hoped
it would.

Speaker 4 (28:07):
Yeah, it didn't. You know, we didn't.

Speaker 9 (28:09):
I think some decision making, some play calling, some injuries,
you know, a couple of guys maybe not playing to capabilities.
I mean, it was a combination of a lot of things.
But we were all disappointed, and so it took a
lot of self evaluation to start and taking a deep
dive into all the areas of our program and where

(28:30):
didn't we meet standards and expectations, you know did equate
to winning.

Speaker 4 (28:34):
I know what winning looks like, and you know I was.

Speaker 9 (28:38):
You know, it's not easy to make changes, but when
when you're tasked with the responsibility of getting this thing
turned around and getting it right, that's where the responsibility lies.

Speaker 4 (28:50):
And I love what we've done.

Speaker 9 (28:52):
I love the new leadership on offense, on defense, in
the weight room, and I love the talent that we've
brought in. And I love the guys that have developed
in the program what they're doing right now. So there's
a lot of good things happening with our football team.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
You talked earlier, I was in your press conference and
somebody asked you about I think, you know, the talent,
the portal, the off season, all that stuff. You had
a lot of good players leave for the NFL.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
I mean, yeah, you.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
Lost twot and you lost peoples, you lost strong, you
lost all of the Jayalen Lane. You did say earlier though,
you feel like you've you've got an even better roster
than you had last year.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
How did you manage that? What do you see on
the right that.

Speaker 9 (29:27):
Were certainly deeper And we signed twenty nine transfers, all
of them bring experience to the program for the most part,
reps in other schools, in other leagues. And then you know,
like I said that some guys that have really developed
in our program that I'm excited about, Aiden Green and

(29:47):
Caleb Woodson and these guys Thomas Williams that you know,
Jason Abbey and Ashen Stevens. You know, these guys are
two and three years in and they've been brought up
into culture and so I'm excited about those guys as well.
But it's we've doubled down on team building to make

(30:08):
sure that we're the type of team that is right
for Tech, that's closed, it's selfless, and we've made some
great strides there. But again, we're a deeper roster. We've
got experience in a lot of places, and I think
we'll be people will be surprised a little bit at
the level of talent on this football team.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
We've got Brent Price, head football coach Virginia Tech with
us here on Radio Row. So Tyler Bowen leaves the program,
you bring in Philip Montgomery. I distinctly remember that Bowl
game against Tulane years ago, Frank's final game. I mean,
I know what he's capable of offensively, but specific to
your quarterback and the guys that you have coming back.
How does his offense, how does his scheme help to
elevate Kyron and the guys that are coming back.

Speaker 9 (30:48):
Yeah, well, first of all, he's a proven quarterback developer.
You know, he's done it at Tulsa, he did it
at Baylor, he did it at Houston, he did it
at you know a lot of places, you know, all
the way from RG three to case Key. So given
Kyron the best chance to reach his potential was was
a big part of the decision. And bringing Phil in

(31:08):
and then a proven offense. You know that Phil knows
like the back of his hand. He knows the problems,
he has the answers, he you know the adjustments, and
you know, we're not reinventing the wheel every week. I
mean he's and honestly, it caters to Kyen's strengths, the
quick release and the strong throws and the wide formations.

Speaker 4 (31:27):
And you know, we're still going to be about running
the ball. You know that I'm not going to get
away from that.

Speaker 9 (31:34):
But we can do that within the system that feels
you know, employed, and so I could be more excited
about what he's bringing to us.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
You knew DC sam Sekis, you talked about him earlier today.
He's a young guy, and when you made the higher
you know, I didn't expect it. I don't think many
people did.

Speaker 4 (31:47):
I didn't either.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
You didn't, Okay, well, I mean just but you I
know that you were your defensive minded already. You know
what you wanted to look like. But you're in trusting him.
How much do you trust him? And what are you
asking him to be?

Speaker 3 (31:57):
Year one?

Speaker 9 (31:58):
Yeah, I was blown away through the process. He spent
six hours together, that's after some initial phone calls. And
he's very, very smart, incredible football iq I loved his
experiences at the college level. He had tremendous success as
a play caller. They were the number one defense in

(32:21):
the Southern Conference at Watford, running a three to four.
The next year they run the four to three and
they have the number one defense in the conference again,
which is a pretty competitive league. Then he goes to
the NFL and he has experiences with you know, not
just four years in the league, but the defensive minds
that he was around while in the league were pretty special.

(32:45):
He's got a process, he's thorough. He's a great communicator,
a great teacher, a family man. It just all made
too much sense. By the end of it, it was
obvious he was our choice.

Speaker 3 (32:57):
Yeah, that makes sense to me now.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
I know that for pretty much every Saturday on the schedule,
you got Frank and Cheryl Beemer in the booth rooting
for you.

Speaker 4 (33:04):
Yeah. Right, yeah, and.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
About a month in Atlanta, it's gonna be a little
different now, I'd say that. I talked to Shane about
this about two months ago, and I said, I said,
remember when Brad Paisley came to Blacksburg for that concert
tour and he had a half Virginia Tech half West
Virginia Jersey on. I said, you're gonna make one of
those for Frank for that game. And he laughed and
he said, you know Dad's you know, Dad's Daddy's on
my side. He said, But Mom, he said, I don't
think she's rooting for me. I think she's got too

(33:27):
much loyalty. Now, I know it's a little bit different
for him than you, but like, do you like, what
do you think of that matchup? Because that's the prevailing
narrative going into.

Speaker 9 (33:34):
That game, right, Yeah, it's a great storyline. Yeah, you know,
I think it's pretty cool for Shane and pretty cool
for coach and.

Speaker 4 (33:40):
Cool for us sure, But you know, for our.

Speaker 9 (33:43):
Team, it's you know, they don't know as much about
Shane Beemer, right, and they certainly respect coach, But it's
about an opportunity to play South Carolina, highly touted team
that has high expectations. You know, a quarterback gets being
talked about all over the country and edge rusher that's dynamic.
I mean all these stings. That's a national TV game,

(34:06):
you know, prime time Just it's it's everything that these
guys came to Tech for, you know, an opportunity to
go win a game in an environment like that.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
Yeah, I love it. Well, hey, it was great to
see you. I know it's been a long day for you.

Speaker 4 (34:18):
No good.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
Thank you for the time as always, and I'll be
seeing you week one. Come on, man, all right, brother,
good see you. Good to see you man.

Speaker 4 (34:23):
Same.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
There you go, Brent Price, head football coach, Virginia Tech
with us here on radio row stop and buy seven
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got more to come, right, now we go to smoke
on the headlines.

Speaker 3 (34:36):
Who is smoke? Where is smoke? Where there's smoke, there's fire.
Let's go what you got smoking?

Speaker 4 (34:43):
All right?

Speaker 7 (34:44):
Some interesting sports media news and it's funny, honestly. NBC,
according to reports on the Wall Street Journal, are exploring
launching a sports focus cable network.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
Kyle, Wait a minute, I hold on. They're not going
to call it NBC Sports Network, are they?

Speaker 4 (35:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (35:01):
I mean, would versus be on the table.

Speaker 7 (35:05):
They literally got rid of it like three years ago,
and now if they'gure to bringing it back.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
Okay, all right, so they've changed their minds. They want
to be back in sports. I guess in that kind
of way.

Speaker 3 (35:15):
I guess they can't shove.

Speaker 7 (35:16):
All their A ten basketball games on USA Network because
they got to get those long and order SPU reruns in. Okay,
all right, then that's interesting. Hey, we'll come back, We'll
I guess we're not.

Speaker 3 (35:28):
We won't.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
We won't talk about that, but I do want to
quickly hit a rumor as it pertains to the ACC
more realignment talk. We'll touch on it next. Sports Radio
ninety two to seven wfn Z. Sports Radio ninety two

(36:04):
seven wfn z KB and Smoke and Flounder and Fidty.
Three of us are here Smokes back in the Chandler
Volta FNZ studios as always hanging out. We appreciate his
hard work and diligence. Big shout out to Brent Priy,
head football coach at Virginia Tech for hanging out with us.
And we do have we actually we've alread chatted with
Dabo Sweeney and Brent Price.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
So we're off and running.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
Dave Dorn still to come later in the show in
between Eric McLain of the ACC Network, and on top
of that, rich Clark, the new executive director of the
College Football Playoff. Former Air Force stud linebacker and Lieutenant
Colonel Richard Clark coming up at five o'clock today. And
as I mentioned the ACC like, we're here for ACC
Kickoff once again here in twenty twenty five. But what's

(36:48):
on the mines I think of a lot of people
here this week is how many more of these will
get to come to at least in there in its
current form or with the current member institutions. And that's
only been acceleratedplified, heightened, I guess by today's news. And
this was brought up toward the end of yesterday's show,
but it's now being pushed elsewhere. I know it was

(37:08):
Adam Smith of Inside Carolina where folks really started talking
about this yesterday. We got a few texts at the
end of yesterday's show on three is also now and
really they're just you know, citing Adam Smith's reporting, But
it's gotten more people talking today. There is a report
from Adam Smith Inside Carolina that the University of North
Carolina the tar Heels, are exploring a move out of

(37:30):
the ACC into the SEC, the Southeastern Conference. Adam Smith
writing quote that Carolina is among several schools quote interested
in seeking a potential departure from the ACC end quote
whenever the next round of collegiate realignment happens end quote
even could be considered at the front of that pack,
alongside Clemson end quote. Again, Adam Smith Inside Carolina reportedly

(37:55):
naming s the SEC is the Conference. He says that's
where the tar Hills are aiming to land. Also, it's
pointed out that the ACC's exit fees dropped from ninety
three million dollars to a flat seventy five million dollars
beginning with that twenty thirty thirty one academic year. So
this is now again it's a talking point today. I
don't know that there's really anything new here, and I

(38:16):
don't mean in any way to this credit the reporting
of Adam Smith.

Speaker 7 (38:19):
I mean, he knows what he knows, he's talked to,
who he's talked to. It's not about that.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
It's the fact that I mean, I think we've known
for a while now that if there's another real round
of realignment coming, and that round of realignment is targeted
at dismantling the Atlantic Coast Conference, that North Carolina is
arguably the number one target or the most coveted program
within the conference that the SEC in Big ten would want.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
And that's not the least bit surprising.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
North Carolina, you know, home obviously to two of the
fastest growing cities in the country. It's one of the
more populated states in the country. It's one of two
states in the quote unquote Southeast that the SEC has
no representation. Makes all the sense in the world that
they'd want to be in the state of North Carolina
as they continue their imperial march toward you know, college
football regional geographic dominance. So I mean I don't know,

(39:06):
Like I think I've been on this train for a
couple of years now that I think the SEC would
like to get two teams at least out of North
Carolina and Virginia and then just be buttoned up with
you know, dominating the Southeast geographically as a conference. I've
got two guys with me, by the way, who hosts
a Carolina podcast? I got Fitty and Flounders, So real quick,
let me get these guys the wayh in. You guys
talk Carolina every day. What do you make of this report?

Speaker 3 (39:27):
Marlow?

Speaker 8 (39:27):
Yeah, I think it's something that I want, and it's
not something that I came to an easy conclusion to KB. Yeah,
I love this conference, like these events are yeah that much.

Speaker 4 (39:38):
You know.

Speaker 8 (39:38):
These are events that growing up I wanted to be
a part of. These are one of the one of
my favorite days of the years to be out here
covering this league and getting to know the coaches and
the players that you know, Yes, I'm a fan of
of a program, but I'm a fan of this league.

Speaker 4 (39:51):
This is a dying league, and you look at.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
What the SEC has to offer and basic autonomy, is
it a dying league or is the ESPN deal threatening
to kill off the league.

Speaker 3 (40:01):
I think it's both.

Speaker 8 (40:03):
I think there's you look at the ESPN component that
plays a part in it. I also don't think that
they had the visionary that they needed to have when
John Swofford took down to lead the conference into its
next iteration and with Jim Phillips, who I think has
done a good job this week kind of managing ACC kickoff,
but hasn't been the guy they needed. But as a

(40:24):
Carolina fan that has a lot of history and tradition
where the premier athletic department in.

Speaker 4 (40:29):
The ACC, I want the SEC.

Speaker 8 (40:32):
I want to waive the It just means more pomp pom,
what the financial resources would give them to compete in
football and can and compete in basketball. And that's the
thing about it is I always wanted to stay in
the ACC because or a basketball school want to be
in a basketball conference. The SEC is not going away
on the basketball side.

Speaker 3 (40:52):
Of things either, Nope.

Speaker 8 (40:53):
And so I think if Carolina was in the SEC,
they'd be able to compete better on the football field,
become a more national relevant program year in year out,
while also still being the national power on the basketball court.
And what would then be the best basketball conference hands down.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
Flounder, Real quick, your thought, what do you think of
this quote unquote report. I mean again, there's no shade
from my part being thrown on this report. What I
just wonder, like, do we think there's anything new here
or is this just a continuation of.

Speaker 3 (41:17):
What we believe for a little while.

Speaker 10 (41:19):
Yeah, I don't know if there's anything super new, but
at the same time, I do think it sort of
validates some of the stuff that we thought. One thing
that I think is interesting is that this report comes
after Steve Newmark has been announced as a future athletic director.
One of the things that we talked about when we

(41:40):
were talking we were talking through Steve Newmark being the
new athletic director on the podcast, was this is a
guy that's worked with the SEC before. So I think
this was something that maybe we should have been anticipating.

Speaker 3 (41:55):
Maybe it wasn't gonna be this fast.

Speaker 10 (41:57):
I think a lot of us thought it was gonna
take a little bit more time before we started seeing
these rumors. But I do think that Carolina is the
one that's going to be leading the charge because we've
talked to plenty of people around here Kyle.

Speaker 3 (42:09):
We know when it comes to the biggest.

Speaker 10 (42:11):
Brand in this conference, it is Carolina because there's so
much promise for football and you know what you're getting
in the basketball program.

Speaker 3 (42:20):
For the most part, I think.

Speaker 10 (42:24):
It's a sought after market for the SEC as well.

Speaker 3 (42:28):
That's the thing is.

Speaker 10 (42:29):
When it comes to Clemson, when it comes to Florida State,
they're in those states, They're not in North Carolina. Yeah,
this is a chance for them to get into the
state of North Carolina and get one of the biggest
brands in all of college sports on board. So I
think it makes sense that from their standpoint why they
could take on Carolina. And from Carolina standpoint, if a
conference like this wants you, that is basically as stable

(42:53):
as a Conference King or the Big Ten, You've got
to look at those options now because we just don't
know the future of the ACC.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
I got to bring you in because I heard you
snickering when Fiddy was making his his case for Carolina.
Was that was that you scoffing at him in the background?
Did I hear that correctly?

Speaker 10 (43:08):
No?

Speaker 3 (43:08):
I didn't even hit the talk back bout oh I
thought I heard someone scoff Did you hear. Did you hear?

Speaker 4 (43:12):
Did you?

Speaker 10 (43:13):
It was probably our heavy breathing chubby fellons speak for yourself.

Speaker 4 (43:20):
I wor room in my house.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
Oh that's you know what.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
I've heard you say it strategically like that about three
times today. I have a workout room in my house.
Not one time have I heard I used the workout
room in my house. I passed every day on my
way home. There you go, that's what I.

Speaker 3 (43:34):
Heard this morning.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
And I heard the very carefully selected ways that you
you characterized having a workout room in your house, but
never once did you claim to have put it to you.

Speaker 8 (43:43):
All right, since we're here, do you believe that William
Eugene Pelagic some made the second, some made the third?
Can bench leg press four seventy.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
I don't think it's that far fetched because and I
hope really doesn't take this the wrong way.

Speaker 3 (43:57):
I hope he does.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
I really don't like four to seventy on the leg press.
It's I mean, it's not bad, it's relatively average. I mean, yeah,
I think you heard mac Reid it this morning. Like
leg press and squats are not the same thing. They're
not the same. Like guys who can squat four hundred
and fifty five hundred pounds. They're leg pressing one thousand,
twelve hundred pounds if they're leg pressing at all. So
I mean, yeah, I think it's pretty. I think it's
believable that Willie's leg pressing four seventy. What could you

(44:19):
leg press right now?

Speaker 3 (44:19):
I have no idea. I haven't been on a leg
press machine in fifteen years. I would bet six twenty five.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
I don't even know that I want to try. I
don't even think I want to try with that. I'm good.

Speaker 3 (44:28):
I have no desire to destroy my knees on the
leg press machine. I'm good.

Speaker 7 (44:31):
I'd rather Yeah, I'm good. I don't even care to
find out anymore anyway.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
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this mean for Clemson for Florida State? We got to
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