August 7, 2025 • 44 mins
In the show's opening hour, Kyle reacts to Russell Baxter's piece explaining why the Panthers could very well make the Super Bowl, as Kyle asks the listening audience what people would sacrifice in their personal lives to win the Super Bowl.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:25):
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Busy Show. Cameron Wolf of the NFL Network coming up
(00:45):
in forty two minutes. He is on the camp tour
for the NFL Network and he has made a stop
in Charlotte this week. He took in Panthers practice yesterday
with us, and we'll talk to Cameron Wolf about it.
Coming up in forty three minutes, Carla Metz is back.
We will talk to carl of course about all the
racing going on right now, but also she too was
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in attendance for Panthers camp yesterday, so we'll talk some
football with Carla Metz. Seven oh four five seven ninety
six ten. Hit us up on the fan duel text line.
We say good afternoon to Smoke Ludwig. How you doing, buddy?
You left her nervous yesterday because I think you thought,
I don't know why. I think you thought I was
going to like force you to run for mayor in
the in Lincolnton yesterday, And you were so relieved at
(01:27):
the end of the show that I didn't really care
whether or not you ran for mayor of Lincolnton. You know,
I don't really I need you focused on the show.
I don't need you focused on you know, sewage treatment
plants in Lincoln County.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
I don't. I don't need that. I want you on
the show.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
You good today, Yeah, I'm good because I think the
idea of a life in politics made you want to
throw up yesterday.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Yes, I just don't. I'm not about that life. Okay,
that's fine, or used to say, but they probably still do. Yeah,
but you know, DA, and I hope I fit the
moniker of I'm too nice to be in politics. I
don't know if I am too nice.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
We need more nice guys like you in politics, though,
for being honest, true we do.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Now.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
The flip side of that is, I would never expect
a decent person to want to do that, you know,
because well, look look around gestures around us. Yeah, look
at all the politicians we got right now. But we
need more smoke ludwigs in politics quite frankly, So take
it as a compliment.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
I can't wait for people to accuse you of both
sides after that.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
It's been a while since we did that routine, wasn't it.
Oh yeah, it used to happen all the time. All
this guy's a liberal tree hug and liberal conservative. He's
all maga like that used to get them both all
the which I guess is a compliment too. But anyway,
I'm glad you're feeling better. We got a lot to
talk about. I also left the show yesterday realizing that,
you know, we I did a thing that I hate
(02:39):
to do in radio. I teased something going into a
break and then we never actually got to it.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
And I hate when I do that.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
We don't do it often, but it does happen from
time to time. And yesterday I had teased that there
was a an article out there suggesting that the Carolina
Panthers could be a playoff team, and I'm sorry, not
a playoff team, a super Bowl team. Want to make
sure we get that right. There was an article from
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Russell Baxter, who was on the show. It was actually
on the station last night on JR. Sports Brief. I
had no idea that this was going to happen. But
Russell's written about the NFL for a very long time.
I used to have him on in my early days
of radio. Haven't talked to him in years. Nice guy
tweets NonStop about the NFL. So if you love NFL content,
(03:29):
Russell Baxter is good for that. But he's got an
article out that came out yesterday that was entitled the
Panthers are a major super Bowl long shot, but not
as long as you think, and points out that the
last appearance in the Super Bowl came in twenty fifteen.
The odds aren't high that they get there, but they're
not the worst. And he points out all the things
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that Carolina has done well so far this offseason. So
before you lose your mind thinking that kb's about to
make the case that the Anthers could make a run
to the Super Bowl, that's not what I'm going to do.
I'm not really interested in that. I am, however, interested
in hearing today the thing that you would sacrifice in
your personal life for the Panthers to get to the
Super Bowl, to win, more specifically, to win the Super Bowl.
(04:13):
Having been there twice and come up empty handed both times.
What would you be willing to sacrifice or give up
for a Carolina Panthers Super Bowl? Let's talk about it
on the FanDuel text line seven oh four five, seven
ninety six to ten. I would like to know. Think
about it like a football version of lent, except it's permanent,
Like you're not getting this thing back after you know
a certain amount of days. You got to give this up.
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You got to sacrifice it for forever, for a Lombardi
Trophy to reside permanently in Charlotte, North Carolina.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
What would you give up? That's good? So this is forever.
This isn't until they okay, So that really raises mistakes
on this.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Yeah, like you cannot have it back and it someoney
just said my dignity. All right, we're often running. We
are often running on a Thursday. What would you give up?
What would you give up in perpetuity? You're sacrificing it
to the football gods in exchange for a Carolina Panther soup.
Somebody just said, one of my dogs, good I can't
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do that. This got dark, man. I mean that my dignity,
one of my dogs. Somebody just offered to sacrifice LaMelo Ball,
which I'm pretty sure is against the law.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Are you, doctor Soups.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Gas Station Fireball said I'd give up Longhorn winter Green.
I gave it up years ago. You should do that too.
You should do that anyway, all right. And I'm not
going to get all preachy about it because I know
the struggle that you're going through as a former dipper
myself for about sixteen seventeen years and kind of technically still.
But it's the healthy stuff. Yeah, it's hard, all right,
So but you probably should give that up anyway. That's
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my preaching, that's my soapbox. What would you give up
for a Carolina Panther Super Bowl seven oh four, five,
seven ninety six ten, Mark from Fort Mill hot take,
I would give up nothing. It's only sports, Mark, Okay,
let's not do the pragmatic thing where it's like, oh,
you know, in the grand scheme of things, sports aren't
that in point? We all know that, Mark, and you're
my buddy, and I like you. Mark from Fort Mill,
King Penny's a good dude. But you could come up
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with something like what it get your favorite beverage during
the day, right, your your favorite coffee routine, your favorite restaurant,
anything like that. That's I knew we'd get good answers
out of this. But Mark, you're better than sports. Aren't
that important? You could give up your chi latte on
your way to work every day. I couldn't give up
cold well. I might give up cold brew for a
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Panther Super Bowl. I'd probably give up cold brew. And
I'm a big cold Me and Dan Campbell are big
cold brew guys. I drink approximately thirty ounces of cold
brew a day that I bring this that that'd be tough.
You know, I actually did a good one because I
was thinking now, especially forever. I'm not giving up on
Western Carolina, especially now because Kyle, guess what, They're ranked
top twenty five in the FCS preseason top twenty five.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
That doesn't happen that often. Just want to let you know,
look at the Catamouse. They're gonna be good this year.
Good and wake Forest, We're coming for you. Yeah you
heard that right, Wesley Bryant.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Sorry, I'm also seeing multiple people claim that they'll give
up drugs if the Panthers won a Super Bowl of
this is just somebody just said my nose candy. All right,
Well I wouldn't make public admissions like that, but anyway,
continue smoke.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
I'm sorry. I'd give up wrestling, but like both companies, okay,
both AW and WW, I'd give up wrestling cold turkey,
not watch wrestling again and not even and I can't
even go watch old episodes of the WWE, ECWWCW all
that stuff. I'd give even territory stuff. I'd give up
on territory stuff. So I'd give up wrestling if that
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meant I got to see the Panthers win Super Bowl.
I knew you wouldn't say NASCAR. Oh hell no, I
know that's my first look.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
I know, I know, but I did wonder what you
would say, You would really give up all wrestling watching
for the rest of your life for a Panther Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Yes, that's a pretty big jump. It's not the massive
jump really. Yeah, Like I don't know, if you know,
I didn't get into it until like twenty ten, and
I was thirteen that and won't be watching wrestling as
a kid cause you know, it was still a little
too violent TV fourteen, the men get involved with the women. Yeah.
And even then, when I started watching wrestling, my mom
she literally looks at me. You notice is fake, right,
(08:11):
And I'm like, yeah, You've told me about ten times.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
I know.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
I'm just having fun with it. That's fun. Yeah, yeah,
just the same reason I watched it as a kid.
It was fun. And then you know, I got more
into it when Macho Man Ready Savage died. There was
a lot of old nitros on YouTube. I watched it
and then became a fan of DDP. Yeah, in their
feed with Macho Man, great stuff in nineteen ninety seven,
staying Hollywood, Ogan and all that stuff, And then watched
a lot of old stuff and became a big fan.
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And then you get to that. Then you had the
WWE network only had pay per views for nine to
ninety nine, which we don't have anymore since they signed
that deal with ESPN. That's true. That's true.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
And how about the fact now that the NF the sidebar,
the NFL now owns ten percent of ESPN.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
That's pretty wild. That's pretty wild.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
And I saw Mike Florio, I think it was last
night sometime yesterday, saying, hey, the NFL now owns ten
percent of ESPN. Uh, keep that in mind in the
future when you consider how the ESPN reports on the league,
anything they do journalistically and rightfully. I think there were
a lot of responses in there, like, wait a minute,
you think ESPN is still doing real objective journalism. And
(09:14):
I know there are some people that work there that
are journalists, but as an entity, do I think that
ESPN is doing real, true hard journalism on the on
the leagues that they are in business with. No, We've
that's a conversation we've had for like twenty years about
ESPN the day they let Bob Lee and OTL leave.
Often it's like, okay, you've just given up on any
final semblance. What we get from most of these guys,
(09:36):
the insiders, is direct information from owners and agents. That's
what you're getting. You're getting information from those guys.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Yeah, So there's increasingly few and few and far between
when it comes to actual people reporting on the stuff
at ESPN. I think one of the only people I
can think of are guys like Don Van Natta Junior
and Seth Wickersham. But even then, you know, don't have
the magazine anymore, and you saw the move they made
just two days ag go they signed some TikTok influencer.
(10:03):
What ESPN did, Yeah, well.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Didn't they didn't, didn't that how we ended up with
somebody from Peloton on college game day.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Yeah, but I don't know exactly what the role is
going to be. But yeah, so within the last two
months they've you know, they signed a TikTok star, but
to do what exactly, I don't know. I guess refresh
your socials, you know, and then they you know, we
don't have around a horn, which was an actual even
if no matter what you think of them, was a
lot of talking heads that were actual little journalists giving
(10:31):
their inputs on the sports war.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
So okay, all right now, now back to the point
here real quick. What would you give up for a
Panther Super Bowl? This is coming up because last night
Russell Baxter, he's a friend of the show. We haven't
had him on a long time. He's covered the NFL
from multiple publications. He writes over at Sports Illustrated these Days.
He wrote that the Panthers are not as long a
shot to make the Super Bowl as you might think,
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and he was on with JR. Sports Brief last night,
which reminded me of this. But I you know, we're
not going to break down the legitimacy of a potential
Panther Super Bowl run. Nobody's in the mood for that,
nor is that a reasonable conversation to have right now.
But what would you give up? Seven oh four five,
seven ninety six ten. A few people have said they
would give up the fandom of their other favorite one
of their other favorite teams for a Panther Super Bowl.
(11:18):
Would you give up the Red Sox for a Panther
Super Bowl?
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Yes? Okay? Would you give up Hornets fandom for a
Panther Super Bowl?
Speaker 4 (11:25):
No?
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Ohay, I didn't think you'd either. I've said I'm Mike,
you have said this. I know where you're going on.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
I'm my cry if the Panthers won a Super Bowl,
but I don't think I will. I'm gonna be bawling,
no pun intended. If the Horne has ever won an
NBA championship. Okay, I sat there and watched Dijiana job
on a random Wednesday night on Fox Sports Network while
they were getting their butts with body crappy Wizards.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
All right, this man set through Lasagna mop for thirty
minutes a night.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
It's just a lasagna. Mop honestly might have been bettered
than Dijana jop in lasagna. Mop's not a real person,
that's exactly right. Seven oh four five, seven oh ninety six.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
I've had three people say they would give up relations
with their significant other for a Panther super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
I I no, just no. Now.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
I also have to ask are you getting any currently,
because you can't give up what you're not getting, all right.
So if you're if you're out there and you're a
long suffering married man and you're saying, hey, I would
give up relations with the missus for a Panther super Bowl,
I have to ask, are you getting any right now?
Because that feels like a little bit of a loophole.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Answer.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
If you're not, then what are you actually giving up
in exchange for a Panther super Bowl?
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Well, you know, I'm single right now, but I hope
to eventually get into a marriage and have that problem.
I don't want to even think about that.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Seven oh four numbers just said I'd give up my
side piece. She's a three oh four anyway, all right,
but we are often running on with her.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Stay what about a three one one. What about that?
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Oh I heard Shrappy do that. We are Yeah, you're
going to play that later? Okay, I thought you might. Yeah,
Shroppy kind of stepped, but he's young. I can't get
too mad about that.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Anyway.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
We're all over the place. Seven oh four five seven
oh ninety six ten. What would you give up for
a Panther Super Bowl? What would you give up? Seven
oh four five seven ninety six ten. Salesman says, I'd
give up diet beers and my season tickets for a
Panther Super Bowl. So he give up diet beers and
he would stop going to Panthers games if they would
just win the Super Bowl, is what salesman said. Some
of these are hysterical. I would give up the Mac
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and Pull show. I think Mack and Bone would be
okay with that. Oh yeah, well Mac especially, they'd be
more than okay with that giving up their show. If
it bed a Panther Super Bowl, they'd be fine.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
I think Mac would give up grilling. Oh wait, never mind,
which reminds me.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
The smelling salts have been delivered to Lacasa de Bailey
as of about forty minutes ago. The smelling salts have
been delivered. I'm gonna have to find a way to
get those to Bone tonight. He and I are both,
you know, Motown residents, so I may have to drive
the smelling salts over to the mact to the to
Bon's place so that they have them for five point
fifty nine tomorrow morning to the start of the show.
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Because on the very first football Friday, like official Football Friday,
we all need to be hitting the smelling salts before
we go on the air tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Yeah. Luckily, you know, we have a strong visionary in
Colin Hoggard. He has made a rule one rule specifically
for this. They all can't get the smelling salts at
the same time, which for that show specifically, would be
a recipe of disaster. Yeah, Mac, Bone and Fittie all
hitting it at the same time. They need to stagger
those Mac especially.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
No, I want Mac going first though, like Mac needs
to go first to set the tone tomorrow morning with
these with these smelling salts, Mac has to go first.
I do like Hoggard's rule or suggestion that they can't
all do them at the same time, because I do
imagine a scenario where all three of them pass out
at the same time because of smelling salts on the air,
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and that's bad for everybody because there's nobody else available
to come take the mic at six am tomorrow morning,
So those things do need to be staggered.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
I was going to say, we'd have to rush Bo
Thompson or Matt Harris down the hall from the mix
and the BT to try to fill in for a
segment if that happen were to happen.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
All right, hit us up seven oh four five, seven
ninety six ten. What would you give up in exchange
for a Panther Super Bowl. We have one longtime NFL
writer suggesting yesterday that it's not that crazy that Carolina
could end up there. Now we're a long way from that,
and I do want to talk more about practice and
yesterday's joint practice and what to expect tomorrow night. In
the first preseason game of the year against the Cleveland Browns,
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Shadur Sanders will start for Cleveland, And it's not really
a Panther's narrative, but it is an interesting one coming
out of Cleveland. As you know, many folks up there
seem to think that Shador Sanders is being set up
to fail tomorrow night, and I just I don't understand
that that perspective. He's being given live NFL reps tomorrow night,
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and he should take do his best to take advantage
of them. And you know, anybody who wants to make
a referendum on one preseason game, or make rather one
preseason game a complete and total referendum on Shador Sanders,
you know career probably is inclined to not really like
the kid anyway. So I don't really take that seriously.
But you got to go play football. And I think
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that Kevin Stefanski would like to go out there and
see Shador Sanders make some plays tomorrow night, and probably
has tempered expectations, understands better than most what he's up against.
And you know the flip side of that is Carolina
Panthers fans are desperately hoping that Shadoor Sanders finds zero
success against the first and second teamers because we'd like
to see not only a stout and defensive performance by
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the starters tomorrow night, but the same from the death,
you know, with the second stringer. So we'll talk all
about it, stay right here. Sports Radio ninety two to
seven wfn Z, what would you give up? What would
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you sacrifice to the football gods for a Panthers Super Bowl.
We're only having the conversation because Russell Baxter joined Jr.
Sports Brief last night following a piece that he published
over at Sports Illustrated saying that the Panthers aren't crazy.
It's not as crazy as you'd think for the Panthers
to make the Super Bowl. That no one thinks they will,
but Russell said they're a long shot. But they're not
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that long a shot to make the super Bowl. So
we're talking about that to start the show. We got
a lot more to get to, but the texts coming
in are hilarious. Carolina Chilly says, I'd give up my wife,
no question, especially since she conspired with my buddy's wife
to keep them from driving from Durham to go to
the game with me because I invited him instead of
my wife, who could give a damn about football, So
(17:36):
upset I had to leave work KB. I'm sorry to
hear that my wife also hurt my feelings. The other
day I saw there was a just an online question,
you know, would you rather for the rest of your life?
Would you rather give up kissing or condiments. And I
just floated that when to were in the kitchen, and
I did not get the response that I wanted. I
gotta be honest with you. You said kissing. No, No,
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I mean she didn't really want to answer the question.
Like I knew I married a condimic gal, like she
loves her some sauces. Now, I knew that. But the
fact that she didn't even at least tell me lie
to my face that she'd rather give up the condiments,
it hurt me a little bit. So I know the
feeling that he's feeling right now.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Yeah, it is tough. You don't care at all, It's okay. Well,
I mean you know, I haven't really got yeah, so.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Yeah, but you could put yourself in those shoes, the
woman that you love, that you've you've had children with,
that you've built a life with. I ask her a
simple honest question from something I see on the internet, like, hey,
this is funny. Would you rather give up kissing her
condiments for the rest of your life? And she's like,
here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
I'm not the best person ask because I don't really
barbecue sauce over me. No, no, no, But here's the
thing too. I also don't put that many condiments sometimes
on my food. You're not a condomic guy, not most
of the time. No, I'm a sauce guy. So like
you go like, for example, you go to bow Jangles
or you know, chicken fleg at yourself some chickens. Yeah,
I'll I'll get it with no like if anything, I'll
get honey mustard. But that's it. And I won't even
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get it that often. I'll just say yep, no sauces.
I'm good.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Oh god, Now I don't know. Just said I'd give
up absolutely nothing. We should be expecting greatness every season
and settle for nothing.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Less.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Is that is that mark from Fort Mills Burner. Come on,
stop being that guy. I'd give up nothing. It's not
that serious. We're having fun. Most people on the text
line are having fun. Like English Paul said he'd give
up baseball. I know for a fact English Paul hates baseball,
so it's not really a big thing for him. That's funny. Uh,
some seven oh four numbers, said my father in law.
The bagel guy said my mother in law. All right, well,
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we got some themes that are being generated here. What
would you sacrifice to the football gods for the Panthers
to win a Super Bowl seven oh four five, seven
oh ninety six ten.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Hit me up and let me know. Let's going to say,
kind of shocked a Bagel guy even has a fadder
in law because he's still incredibly young. Remember we met
him out of the March Babel guy. Yeah, I think
he's like my age. Really pretty sure. He looks a
lot longer, younger than you. No offense.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
I mean, I'm not an agent, but like I'm pushing forty,
I'm pretty sure he's my age.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
I was gonna say he looked closer to my age
than your age.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Maybe he'll tell us on the text line, maybe he'll
volunteer that information. But he looks young when I met him,
so I was kind of shocked that he's married and
has a father in laws. Three people say they'd give
up their their job, their profession, and that they like
their job and that they'd give it up in a
heartbeat for a Panther Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
They liked their job, that's what.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Yeah, I've got multiple people say, Hey, I like my
job and I'd give up my job for a Panther
Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
That's that's a little too much. It takes it a
little too high. Look, I love my football teams, but
I'm not gonna let my you know, life and career,
you know, get in the way of that. In that sense,
I'll give away some ancillary stuff that I don't like
that I like a lot, like wrestling, for example. But sure, no,
I'm not gonna go over that.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
All right, Don of Abama Fans says she'd give up
diet sprite only if Bryce was the quarterback when we
won the Super Bowl. Diet Sprite is Don of the
Bama Fans answer, I love this audience, all right. Seven
oh four five, seven ninety six ten. Hit us up
on the FanDuel text line National Headlines today. All right,
(20:51):
we have had multiple really bad injuries across the NFL
and training camp, the most recent one being Rayshawn Slater
with the Chargers.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
It was actually carted off the field today after he
got rolled up on in you know, it would look
like a I think it was eleven on eleven, but
you know, pass protection, you know, rep no matter what,
and he got rolled up on and it's it appears
to be based on the video that I saw and
that you showed me specifically, that one looks bad. It
(21:23):
is you know, you never know until you get the MRIs,
the X rays and you know you get the imaging
back to see what's actually damaged. But that one looked
really bad for Rayshawn Slater, who just got a new deal.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
By the way, yeah, non contact, So glad he got
the new deal. Especially now was it non contact? I
thought he got rolled up on. It might have been.
It might have been rolled up on, but it was
pretty close to non contact. It was just one. It
wasn't one where like someone just completely stepped on his
leg ands like, oh yeah, I can absolutely see it there.
It looked like just a routine play. He just fell over.
And now there's a lot of concern, But I mean,
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that don't have a big impact potential in the AFC
if he is severely hurt, because he's one of the
best left tackles in the game right now.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
No question about it, you know, even though Matt Rule
did not think so, the Nordon Scott Fitterer coming out
of the draft. But anyway, that's the you know, water
under the bridge. So ray Shawn Slater gets hurt and CJ.
Gardner Johnson was carted off the field from Texans practice
a couple of hours ago. So I mean the Gardner
Johnson one. That's terrible for Houston if it turns out
(22:22):
to be really serious. Obviously, I think we'd all typically
agree that you're starting left tackle who you just gave
a fat new deal to, that is that's a worse injury,
you know, if you're comparing the two, both bad, but
you know, you never that that's outside of the quarterback.
There's really nothing worse than losing your starting left tackle
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of that caliber.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
It's two WA two B between that and a d
drusher Alie Eddrusch.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
This also got me thinking about the most devastating injuries
in the history of sports, you know what I mean, Like,
and I'm not talking about injuries that derailed individual careers
necessarily so much as you know, devastating injuries that derailed
team's success.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
You know what I mean. I was about to say
Kevin Ware, but that did not derail team success.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
No, no, no, We're talking about you know, nasty injuries that
truly derailed team's success. Think about like Derrick Henry twenty
twenty one Tennessee Titans fractures his foot in Week eight.
They were the number one seed. They were dominating with
him on pace for a two thousand yard rushing season,
and they end up still making the playoffs, but they
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get eliminated in the divisional round. He got back and
suited up for that game, but he was nowhere close
to the player that was, you know out there prior
to the injury. The offense was built around him, as
we all know. I'm thinking about that one. Hell, I mean,
oh way, Tom Brady, here's his acl Week one for
the Patriotsard Parlow to change the rule in the NFL.
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Like that's we're talking about injuries that completely derailed seasons. Here,
Terrell Owens two thousand and four broke his leg in
Week fifteen. The Eagles were not the same after that.
I was gonna say, they still made the Super Bowl
and he still played in that game. Yeah, but do
they win the Super Bowl with.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Him at one hundred close to Yeah, that's a good
point because it was a one score game. Okay. Also
didn't help that Donovan was sick there in that game. Oh,
here's a good one. Here's a good one. Go to basketball.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Twenty twelve Chicago Bulls Derreck Rose game one of the playoffs.
They were the number one seed in the East, best
record in the NBA and he tears his ACL and
they lose to the eight seed Philadelphia seventy six Ers
in the first round. I mean, that was that Bulls team.
You never know, you can't predict the future, but a
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lot of folks thought that team was winning a title.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
It was definitely gonna make the Eastern Conference that it
was gonna make it much harder because I mean, they're
in that area. You had the Pacers with Paul George
and Roy Hibbert at their peak, and they were they
were like the Heat were gonna have to get through
six tough games to get through that. Imagine if they
had to go through two rounds like that with prime
Derek Rowse and that Bowl team, which was a tough
nosed team going against the Heat, who knows, I don't know.
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I don't think they would have gone back and back,
especially if he was healthy for twenty thirteen because they
barely got by the Spurs. Imagine you have to go
in through two series like that and then oh, by
the way, now you have to go against the veteran Spurs.
So I definitely think that one I do need to
mention this one because it's one that I don't think
gets mentioned enough and would have had a drastic difference
in the hierarchy of the NFC in the late nineties
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early two thousands, Garrison Hurst torn Achilles NFC Divisional game
against the Falcons. Think about the butterfly effect in that
because he gets hurt in the first play a game
that was his career year in nineteen ninety eight, and
that means he's already out for the ninety nine season.
If he doesn't get hurt in that game, they probably
win because I think because it was close enough still
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with the Falcons and Chris Chandler, then think about it.
Instead of the Falcons Vikings, you get an NFC championship
game between Randall Cunningham and Steve Young. If the Vikings lose,
it's not the Falcons that are just a bunch of
sparky underdogu that got hot at the right time. It's no.
You either have John Elway in his last game in
the Denver Broncos going against either Steve Young in the
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forty nine ers or Randall Cunningham and the air raid
not air Raid, but like the high powered offense with
Randy Mawson, Chris Carter. Yeah, think about that and then't
in ninety nine. It would have been big for him
not to get a twenty killies because what happened in
Game three, well, actually what happened I don't remember, but
what you do Lark Phillips missed the pass block, Steve
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Young gets concussed. That was the last game of his career.
So maybe if Garrison Hurst doesn't get hurt, he's there
to pass block against Arizona in Week three, Steve Young
doesn't get hurt and didn't, the forty nine ers still
have one more run to potentially go for the playoffs
and win it all in nineteen ninety nine. Two. Now
I like that. I love that point. I do.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Now here's one from the college football ranks that I
really Timely Thomas was the first person that I saw
send this in Jordan Travis twenty twenty three, Florida State.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
It would have been even more damning if they let
him out. If they kept him out with Jordan Travis
in there healthy. Yeah, what's funny too.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
It's not funny, but like we were standing at joint
practice yesterday Panthers and Browns. But a year ago it
was Aaron Rodgers and the Jets in town for joint practice,
and who was one of the quarterbacks in that QB
room last year for the Jets, Jordan Travis. And I
recall having people just standing around having those conversations like, man,
what could have been Jordan Travis by the way broke
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his leg in week twelve? Was that it was a
directional school he broke his leg against.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Was it was it Jacksonville State?
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (27:33):
No, it was where Roman was yesterday? It was North Alabama. Yeah,
it was North Alabama. We took in the first quarter. Yeah,
first quarter. They were thirteen and oh ACC champions and
of course you know if it's a front was Top Knox. Yeah,
but they get left out of the College Football Playoff
because the committee felt like they weren't the same without
Jordan Travis. So that's a great one. Let's not forget
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Cam Newton twenty eighteen Pittsburgh. You know, I don't know
how you feel about that, and you know, relative to
the rest, but he did continue to play. The crazy
thing is you look at the two games after that,
he was actually still really good. Right Like the Detroit game,
I know he missed a two point conversion for Ochierius, right,
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but it was still a strong game from him, And
then the week after that against Seattle, it was one
of the most efficient games of his career. Yeah, so
it's just the Tampa game was when things really went
off the rails. It's like, oh, he's airmailing these froze
bad because his shoulder was more bumped. But I still
think it was gonna happen either way. Here's one that
doesn't get mentioned enough within his fan base, and Colin
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has been preaching to the choire for this for years.
Steven Davis getting pulled on IR in two thousand and five.
Oh because what was the record then? Eleven and five?
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Okay, because what happened was ther Deshan Foster has to
run his career into playoffs, but then gets hurt against Chicago.
He's out for the year. It's like, okay, you got
Nick Goings. You know Nick Goings had eight hundred plus
yards and oh four, but then he gets hurt and
early in the game against Seattle, And did you have
a bunch of guys just a bunch of random guys
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playing running back And if the IRA rules were what
they are now, would have been different. Unfortunately, back then,
when you got put on IR, you were out for
the year, no matter which week you were put on.
So a semi healthy Stephen Davis would have still been
available in an NFC championship game. That's a great point.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Real quick. A few of these come again. Kevin Durant
and Klay Thompson twenty nineteen. KD tears is KDE ruptures
achilles in game five?
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Yeah? It was? And then Clay game six tears is
ACL because they made it. It's like, well, it sucks
that KD got injured, but we got game six, Clay.
Their bringing up because Klay Thompson in game six is
was unstoppable. And then I think it was on the
breakaway fast break layup or something was when he tore
his achilles and it was like, oh, okay, over.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
That hold that thought. Aggie Pride just said Colt McCoy
in the National Championship Game that I mean, that's that's
near the top two. All right, we're gonna come back
to this. We got Cameron Wolf of the NFL Network
coming up in about seven minutes. Right now, we go
to smoke on the headlines.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Who is smoke? Where is smoked? Where there's smoke, there's fire.
Let's go what you got? All right? Do you want
to have a clarification for what we talked about two
days ago with the smelling salts. The NFL is banning
smelling salts, but banning the teams from using the smelling salts.
The players can still use it, but they got to
bring their own smelling salts to to party.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
It can no longer be brought by the team, Kyle,
all right, So it's bring your own smelling salts. Yes,
they're not banned from the sidelines, but the teams are
banned from providing them.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Yes, all right, there you go. What else you got?
All right? And keeping things in the NFL. We talked
a lot about the Micah Parsons contract situation. There has
been one that's really gone under the radar, and I'm
kind of shocked. James Cook is currently having in hold
a hold in with the Buffalo Bills as he's seeking
a new deal. This is big because you know, the
Bills are still trying to compete for a Super Bowl.
They don't know if the windows closing, you know, By
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the way, James Cook has been the best running back
that they've had under the Josh Allen Era hard On.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
I got a buddy who works in law enforcement. He
came over to my place on Sunday for my brother
my one's birthday party, and I bet he's not in
my kitchen five minutes and the first words out of
his mouth after all the pleasantry is worse. So what
do you think the Bills are gonna do with James Cook?
I don't know, man, I don't know. All right, Well,
come back, Cameron Wolfe, NFL Network, he was at Panthers
(31:16):
practice yesterday. We'll get his thoughts. Sports Radio ninety two
seven wfn Z. Hey, the FanDuel text line is bumping
(31:36):
here in the Queen City. Everybody's chiming in. Man, really
good stuff. What you would sacrifice to the football gods
for a Panther super Bowl? That took off in the
beginning of the show. And now we're talking about the
most devastating injuries in sports. And I'm not talking about,
you know, horrible, horrific injuries like Kevin Ware at Louisville.
You know, we're talking about injuries to players that derailed
team's success. We don't know yet what the situation is
(31:59):
with ray Sewn Slay or really CJ. Gardner Johnson, but
Slater in particular, that would be a massive blow to
Jim Harbaugh, the Charger. So we'll get back to all that.
Shout out by the way to Vashti Hurt, Carolina blitz Her,
and Walker Rock the mic earlier today in the middays,
and we appreciate y'all sticking around with us, and especially
right now. We got a great guest on the line,
Cameron Wolf, NFL Network reporter. He's on his camp tour.
(32:22):
My man is in and out of TSA lines in
the month of August, visiting training camps all over the country,
and he made a stop in the Queens City this
week and took in joint practice with the Browns with
us yesterday, and Cameron Wolf is with us on the hotline. Cameron,
what's going on, brother? How you been?
Speaker 4 (32:37):
I'm good man. How you doing today?
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Good good? I liked what I saw yesterday from Carolina.
We were talking about this yesterday and I was listening
to a little bit of Cleveland Sports Radio to see
what they thought. And you know, it does seem like everybody,
including most of the Cleveland media, believes that, you know,
Carolina looked like the better football team yesterday. It's just
a joint practice. It doesn't mean anything toward regular season six,
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But it doesn't mean nothing like what did you think yesterday?
Speaker 3 (33:03):
What did you see and what was your opinion?
Speaker 4 (33:05):
Yeah, let's keep it real. Everybody wants to be the
winner of the joint practice. You want to have the
tougher team, you want to have the team that looks better.
And I'd agree. I think that for that day, Carolina
definitely looked like the better team. And I think maybe
more importantly for Carolina was where they look like the
better team. I know last year the defensive side of
the ball got a lot of a lot of issues,
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and the run defense in particular. I was really impressed
to see how the run defense held up against Cleveland,
a team that wants to run the ball, wants to
be physical. They were definitely winning that battle up front.
The defense, you know, flash throughout the day. And Bryce
had a nice day too, so you know, I definitely
think that's a win. Now, Cleveland may not be a
very good team good team this year, but if you're
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better than the team in front of you, that's always.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
A win absolutely right now, Now go back to Bryce,
really quickly, because this is a really big year for him.
Over there, you know they're downplaying it a little bit.
I think we all understand why they don't want to
go too crazy with keeping expectations on anybody but their
quarterback in particular. But you and I both know it's
a really big year for Bryce. Like, what are you expecting?
How important was yesterday toward that? And what kind of
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season do you think he needs to have to solidify
his place as the franchise quarterback in Carolina.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
Yeah, it's monumental. I mean, like, honestly, year three is
when you start talking about are rescinding the guy or
a re looking to replace him? And we know how
it went last year where it looks like for a
while he was getting replaced and then he revives it.
You go two ways. Either build upon the last three
four games the last year and solidify yourself as a
no doubt quarterback, or you're bringing those doubts again back
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into question and then you start to say, hey, do
we have to look somewhere else? So, I mean, this
is the biggest year of his career. It's going to define,
in my opinion, if this guy's going to be a
ten twelve plus year starter in Carolina, or if this
is just another stop in the Carolina franchise quarterback search trains.
So from what I've seen so far, I'm definitely leaning
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towards the former. He looks like a different I've been
in camp every off season since he's been drafted here,
and he by far looks the most comfortable, confident in
command that I've seen him. And he certainly looks like
a guy that you know, has been through some things,
and because of that, he's he's a little bit more
ready for the adversity that strikes through a season. So
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even the day, you know, I was there the Tuesday
and Wednesday raining all through practice, easy for you to
go and just kind of easy lolly gag through a practice,
he was getting guys together in the huddle, you know,
being vocal in a way that I don't think many
people think of us. Think of him as a vocal guy,
and those little things help your guys around you feel confident.
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You know, everything strives from the quarterback. Do you believe
your guy is good enough to lead you to where
you want to go? And talking to some people there,
I think the guys are finally starting to believe that
Bryce can take us to where we're trying to go.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
What did you think of the organization's decision to get
him another weapon in the form of Ted Roll McMillan
in the first round, as opposed to making a premier
defensive player like pretty much everybody thought they were going
to do.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
Yeah, I loved it because nothing is more important than
giving your quarterback a chance to see And I think
that's how you build franchises, right. Yes, you always want
to have a great defense, but when you have a
young quarterback, especially one that is on a rookie deal,
you have to maximize that window. And it seemed like
last off season the priority was to get better in
the trenches. You sign Robert Hunt, you signed Damian Lewis,
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you give them both big contracts, and both of those
seem like they've worked out tremendously, and now you go
get him as number one, and now it's up to Bryce.
Now you can eliminate some of the excuses, some of
the reasons and say, hey, Bryce, we've done everything we
can and let's find out if you're the guy. And
if he can show that in later years, you can
start to build up that defense. But I think more
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important than anything this season is is deciding if Bryce
is the guy and getting him in a position to see.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
We've got Cameron Wolf NFL Network with us on his
camp tour right now making a stop in Charlotte. Let
me back off the roster for a second, because you know,
you're right, you're around a lot. You have sources in
the building, and we talked to some of the same people,
I'm sure, and you know, those seats have changed in
the last couple of years in the offseason, right Dan
Morgan's there now, Brent Tillis is next to him. They
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brought him over from Kansas City after he negotiated Patrick
Mahomes record setting deal. They've got some really impressive people
in the building. And David Tepper, you know, is now
seven years into ownership. They haven't made the playoffs, and
it does seem like he's kind of backed out of
the spotlight a bit and is allowing the football guys
to do the football work. What are your thoughts on
the front office, how they're operating now and what that
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could mean toward future success.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
Yeah. I like what Dan Morgan is building, you know,
I think there's a lot of questions obviously in the
fan base of Dan take it over for Scott given
how close they were. But you can tell Dan has
a clear, separate identity of how he wants to build
the team, and he certainly has has done a lot
of work in trying to make this a physical team,
kind of like how he was as a player. You
see it, and how they built the offensive line last
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offseason and this year it seems like the additions on
the defensive side. You know, Bobby Brown flashed a couple
of days when I was out there in practice. He
seems like he's having a good camp. Turk Warden same thing.
Guys that can supplement Derrick Brown. And then obviously Nick
Skearraton when he's healthy and full go maybe give you
another pass rusher off the edge. So you know, these
guys got to be players. But there's clear intentionality and
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how we want to build this team. And to your point,
you're right, Dave Temper, he was at the center of
everything over the last couple of years, and he's certainly
taken a less visible spectrum, you know, And I remember
the last time I saw him was Week eighteen, walking
out of that Panthers Falcons game. I saw him in
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the tunnel and he told me, I think we've got
our quarterback, and that was he felt strongly about that,
and that was really the last time I've seen him,
and most people have seen him kind of around significantly,
and so I think that's kind of a sign of, Hey,
I'm going to let my football guys do the work
and it's on them to do it right. I think
that's a good development for the team and we're going
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to see how it goes from there.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Since I've been here at the head coach spot, I've
been through Ron Rivera, I've been through Matt Ruhle, briefly
Frank Reich and now Dave Canalis and so you know,
that's a stretch that might, you know, harden some people,
but we've seen a lot, you know what I mean.
And I'm looking at Dave. When he got here, he
didn't really have any other offers. He was largely unknown.
He took a big risk going to Tampa on that staff.
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It could have only lasted a year, and he's parlayed
it now into his first head coaching job. You know,
I've been talking about the fact that he's also been
calling offensive plays and never once last year was that
a real concern or conversation. A lot of guys can't
do that. It's too big a struggle. But you know,
he made it and nobody really talked much about it.
The players seem to really believe in this guy. You've
been around a lot of coaches, You've talked to a
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lot of coaches. What stands out to you about Dave
that maybe you know there's DNA there, or there are
characteristics to you that make you think, okay, he's the
real deal.
Speaker 4 (39:57):
Yeah. I think mainly my thing for these offensive young
coaches is can you coach the whole team? I think
a lot of times these guys are brought on because
of the work they do with the quarterback. And you know, Dave,
to be fair, that was a large reason why he
got hired, what he did with Baker down there and
how he helped him elevate and now you have a
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full fifty two. And I think what was really cool,
and we talked to Dave about this on NFL Network
this past week, was that, you know, you get a
situation like Bryce where you really get a moment of
adversity to see how you handle a tough time A
tough decision that your quarterback, as he said to us,
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didn't agree with. And I'm sure there were some people
in the locker room that did, some people that didn't.
How do you keep people together, how do you not
create a di vide? How do you not lose the
locker room? How do you not lose that young quarterback?
And I think that was a very difficult challenge he
had in the second third week of the season. And
the way they are trying to move past that and
continue to develop the team, I think is a tribute
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of their trust and leadership. If he didn't trust the guy,
you crap out, you know and say, hey, wait, we
benched oar our young quarterback, and he ended up playing well,
like what are you doing here? And I think that
the way they responded, of the way Bryce responded, I
think as a testament to maybe how he builds those
individual relationships even through tough times. And you know, I
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think even this offseason, you see him more comfortable in
his own landscape and not his hyper sensitive on having
his hands on everything. Like you mentioned the play calling element.
He's had his offensive coina or at call plays all
off season. He's gonna call plays on the preseason game
on Friday, and that's something that young coaches are often
hesitant to give up because of sometimes ego, but sometimes
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it's like, man, this is why I got the job,
this is why they need me. And I think you
see Dave understanding that my value is more than just
my scheme and my play calling.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
All right, last thing, We'll get you out of here
tomorrow night, preseason game number one. We don't expect to
see much of the starters Dave told us yesterday, ideally
eight to twelve plays, but Shador Sanders will start on
the other side. And I think we're all, at least
to some degree, really interested, fascinated by what he's going
to look like, not just now but into the future.
You know, there's a lot of I think a lot
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of conjecture coming out of Cleveland about they're setting him
up to fail, and I don't know that I agree
with that necessarily, but I'm intrigued like everybody else, what
do you expect to see it from him tomorrow night?
But also how Cleveland handles him over the next several weeks.
Speaker 4 (42:27):
Yeah, I think he's going to play most of the game.
It's not all of the game. Which is going to
be cool for people who watch. And again i'll give
a plug here. It's going to be on the NFL network.
I'd imagine it's one of the more highly watched preseason
games of this year, if not in a while, because
of like you said, Shador Sanders and the lightning ride.
You got a lot of people that love him, get
a lot of people that question them. Either way, people
were talking, and when you got a guy that people
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talk about and he can play most of the game,
people are going to tune in. And like you said,
on the Carolina side, you're getting to play your starters.
You're getting to play Bryce Young for you know, maybe
a dozen plays. So it's going to be a lot
to I think that. My view from the situation is
door Standers has been the fourth quarterback for most of
the off season. Now everybody has their opinion on should
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he be the fourth? Why is he the fourth? Regardless
the coaches have had him as the fourth quarterback. Joe
Flacco's not playing because he's forty years old and he
doesn't needing preseason reps. Your other two quarterbacks are injured,
and so what an opportunity for a guy who's fourth
from a depth chart, a fifth round pick to really
show what he's got And regardless of the circumstance, regardless
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if you say, oh, he has this many reps with
the ones, this and that. All people ask for is
a chance, you know, especially the guys that are Day
three picks. And I got a feeling that is gonna
relish this opportunity. I get a feeling just watching how
he's worked and listening to people in that building. He's
not gonna say, oh, it's me, what was me? And
you know I haven't played with any ones and Jered
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Judy's not playing and what about this? I think he's
just gonna say, hey, let's go do it. And I
think we're gonna get a very good version of Shador Standers.
And I can't wait to see it. I know everybody
else can't wait to see it. And I know Panthers
fans it's just a preseason game. I hope they can
enjoy it, at least for a little bit, seeing the
kid do a thing.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
I'm right there with you, Cameron. Great seeing you yesterday, buddy,
and we'll see you tomorrow night. Thank you for the time.
Speaker 4 (44:16):
Absolutely, thank you guys.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
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We say good afternoon to Smoke Ludwig. How you doing, buddy?
You left her nervous yesterday because I think you thought,
I don't know why. I think you thought I was
going to like force you to run for mayor in
the in Lincolnton yesterday, And you were so relieved at
(01:27):
the end of the show that I didn't really care
whether or not you ran for mayor of Lincolnton. You know,
I don't really I need you focused on the show.
I don't need you focused on you know, sewage treatment
plants in Lincoln County.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
I don't. I don't need that. I want you on
the show.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
You good today, Yeah, I'm good because I think the
idea of a life in politics made you want to
throw up yesterday.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Yes, I just don't. I'm not about that life. Okay,
that's fine, or used to say, but they probably still do. Yeah,
but you know, DA, and I hope I fit the
moniker of I'm too nice to be in politics. I
don't know if I am too nice.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
We need more nice guys like you in politics, though,
for being honest, true we do.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Now.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
The flip side of that is, I would never expect
a decent person to want to do that, you know,
because well, look look around gestures around us. Yeah, look
at all the politicians we got right now. But we
need more smoke ludwigs in politics quite frankly, So take
it as a compliment.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
I can't wait for people to accuse you of both
sides after that.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
It's been a while since we did that routine, wasn't it.
Oh yeah, it used to happen all the time. All
this guy's a liberal tree hug and liberal conservative. He's
all maga like that used to get them both all
the which I guess is a compliment too. But anyway,
I'm glad you're feeling better. We got a lot to
talk about. I also left the show yesterday realizing that,
you know, we I did a thing that I hate
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to do in radio. I teased something going into a
break and then we never actually got to it.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
And I hate when I do that.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
We don't do it often, but it does happen from
time to time. And yesterday I had teased that there
was a an article out there suggesting that the Carolina
Panthers could be a playoff team, and I'm sorry, not
a playoff team, a super Bowl team. Want to make
sure we get that right. There was an article from
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Russell Baxter, who was on the show. It was actually
on the station last night on JR. Sports Brief. I
had no idea that this was going to happen. But
Russell's written about the NFL for a very long time.
I used to have him on in my early days
of radio. Haven't talked to him in years. Nice guy
tweets NonStop about the NFL. So if you love NFL content,
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Russell Baxter is good for that. But he's got an
article out that came out yesterday that was entitled the
Panthers are a major super Bowl long shot, but not
as long as you think, and points out that the
last appearance in the Super Bowl came in twenty fifteen.
The odds aren't high that they get there, but they're
not the worst. And he points out all the things
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that Carolina has done well so far this offseason. So
before you lose your mind thinking that kb's about to
make the case that the Anthers could make a run
to the Super Bowl, that's not what I'm going to do.
I'm not really interested in that. I am, however, interested
in hearing today the thing that you would sacrifice in
your personal life for the Panthers to get to the
Super Bowl, to win, more specifically, to win the Super Bowl.
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Having been there twice and come up empty handed both times.
What would you be willing to sacrifice or give up
for a Carolina Panthers Super Bowl? Let's talk about it
on the FanDuel text line seven oh four five, seven
ninety six to ten. I would like to know. Think
about it like a football version of lent, except it's permanent,
Like you're not getting this thing back after you know
a certain amount of days. You got to give this up.
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You got to sacrifice it for forever, for a Lombardi
Trophy to reside permanently in Charlotte, North Carolina.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
What would you give up? That's good? So this is forever.
This isn't until they okay, So that really raises mistakes
on this.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Yeah, like you cannot have it back and it someoney
just said my dignity. All right, we're often running. We
are often running on a Thursday. What would you give up?
What would you give up in perpetuity? You're sacrificing it
to the football gods in exchange for a Carolina Panther soup.
Somebody just said, one of my dogs, good I can't
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do that. This got dark, man. I mean that my dignity,
one of my dogs. Somebody just offered to sacrifice LaMelo Ball,
which I'm pretty sure is against the law.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Are you, doctor Soups.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Gas Station Fireball said I'd give up Longhorn winter Green.
I gave it up years ago. You should do that too.
You should do that anyway, all right. And I'm not
going to get all preachy about it because I know
the struggle that you're going through as a former dipper
myself for about sixteen seventeen years and kind of technically still.
But it's the healthy stuff. Yeah, it's hard, all right,
So but you probably should give that up anyway. That's
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my preaching, that's my soapbox. What would you give up
for a Carolina Panther Super Bowl seven oh four, five,
seven ninety six ten, Mark from Fort Mill hot take,
I would give up nothing. It's only sports, Mark, Okay,
let's not do the pragmatic thing where it's like, oh,
you know, in the grand scheme of things, sports aren't
that in point? We all know that, Mark, and you're
my buddy, and I like you. Mark from Fort Mill,
King Penny's a good dude. But you could come up
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with something like what it get your favorite beverage during
the day, right, your your favorite coffee routine, your favorite restaurant,
anything like that. That's I knew we'd get good answers
out of this. But Mark, you're better than sports. Aren't
that important? You could give up your chi latte on
your way to work every day. I couldn't give up
cold well. I might give up cold brew for a
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Panther Super Bowl. I'd probably give up cold brew. And
I'm a big cold Me and Dan Campbell are big
cold brew guys. I drink approximately thirty ounces of cold
brew a day that I bring this that that'd be tough.
You know, I actually did a good one because I
was thinking now, especially forever. I'm not giving up on
Western Carolina, especially now because Kyle, guess what, They're ranked
top twenty five in the FCS preseason top twenty five.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
That doesn't happen that often. Just want to let you know,
look at the Catamouse. They're gonna be good this year.
Good and wake Forest, We're coming for you. Yeah you
heard that right, Wesley Bryant.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Sorry, I'm also seeing multiple people claim that they'll give
up drugs if the Panthers won a Super Bowl of
this is just somebody just said my nose candy. All right,
Well I wouldn't make public admissions like that, but anyway,
continue smoke.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
I'm sorry. I'd give up wrestling, but like both companies, okay,
both AW and WW, I'd give up wrestling cold turkey,
not watch wrestling again and not even and I can't
even go watch old episodes of the WWE, ECWWCW all
that stuff. I'd give even territory stuff. I'd give up
on territory stuff. So I'd give up wrestling if that
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meant I got to see the Panthers win Super Bowl.
I knew you wouldn't say NASCAR. Oh hell no, I
know that's my first look.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
I know, I know, but I did wonder what you
would say, You would really give up all wrestling watching
for the rest of your life for a Panther Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Yes, that's a pretty big jump. It's not the massive
jump really. Yeah, Like I don't know, if you know,
I didn't get into it until like twenty ten, and
I was thirteen that and won't be watching wrestling as
a kid cause you know, it was still a little
too violent TV fourteen, the men get involved with the women. Yeah.
And even then, when I started watching wrestling, my mom
she literally looks at me. You notice is fake, right,
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And I'm like, yeah, You've told me about ten times.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
I know.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
I'm just having fun with it. That's fun. Yeah, yeah,
just the same reason I watched it as a kid.
It was fun. And then you know, I got more
into it when Macho Man Ready Savage died. There was
a lot of old nitros on YouTube. I watched it
and then became a fan of DDP. Yeah, in their
feed with Macho Man, great stuff in nineteen ninety seven,
staying Hollywood, Ogan and all that stuff, And then watched
a lot of old stuff and became a big fan.
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And then you get to that. Then you had the
WWE network only had pay per views for nine to
ninety nine, which we don't have anymore since they signed
that deal with ESPN. That's true. That's true.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
And how about the fact now that the NF the sidebar,
the NFL now owns ten percent of ESPN.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
That's pretty wild. That's pretty wild.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
And I saw Mike Florio, I think it was last
night sometime yesterday, saying, hey, the NFL now owns ten
percent of ESPN. Uh, keep that in mind in the
future when you consider how the ESPN reports on the league,
anything they do journalistically and rightfully. I think there were
a lot of responses in there, like, wait a minute,
you think ESPN is still doing real objective journalism. And
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I know there are some people that work there that
are journalists, but as an entity, do I think that
ESPN is doing real, true hard journalism on the on
the leagues that they are in business with. No, We've
that's a conversation we've had for like twenty years about
ESPN the day they let Bob Lee and OTL leave.
Often it's like, okay, you've just given up on any
final semblance. What we get from most of these guys,
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the insiders, is direct information from owners and agents. That's
what you're getting. You're getting information from those guys.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Yeah, So there's increasingly few and few and far between
when it comes to actual people reporting on the stuff
at ESPN. I think one of the only people I
can think of are guys like Don Van Natta Junior
and Seth Wickersham. But even then, you know, don't have
the magazine anymore, and you saw the move they made
just two days ag go they signed some TikTok influencer.
(10:03):
What ESPN did, Yeah, well.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Didn't they didn't, didn't that how we ended up with
somebody from Peloton on college game day.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Yeah, but I don't know exactly what the role is
going to be. But yeah, so within the last two
months they've you know, they signed a TikTok star, but
to do what exactly, I don't know. I guess refresh
your socials, you know, and then they you know, we
don't have around a horn, which was an actual even
if no matter what you think of them, was a
lot of talking heads that were actual little journalists giving
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their inputs on the sports war.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
So okay, all right now, now back to the point
here real quick. What would you give up for a
Panther Super Bowl? This is coming up because last night
Russell Baxter, he's a friend of the show. We haven't
had him on a long time. He's covered the NFL
from multiple publications. He writes over at Sports Illustrated these Days.
He wrote that the Panthers are not as long a
shot to make the Super Bowl as you might think,
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and he was on with JR. Sports Brief last night,
which reminded me of this. But I you know, we're
not going to break down the legitimacy of a potential
Panther Super Bowl run. Nobody's in the mood for that,
nor is that a reasonable conversation to have right now.
But what would you give up? Seven oh four five,
seven ninety six ten. A few people have said they
would give up the fandom of their other favorite one
of their other favorite teams for a Panther Super Bowl.
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Would you give up the Red Sox for a Panther
Super Bowl?
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Yes? Okay? Would you give up Hornets fandom for a
Panther Super Bowl?
Speaker 4 (11:25):
No?
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Ohay, I didn't think you'd either. I've said I'm Mike,
you have said this. I know where you're going on.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
I'm my cry if the Panthers won a Super Bowl,
but I don't think I will. I'm gonna be bawling,
no pun intended. If the Horne has ever won an
NBA championship. Okay, I sat there and watched Dijiana job
on a random Wednesday night on Fox Sports Network while
they were getting their butts with body crappy Wizards.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
All right, this man set through Lasagna mop for thirty
minutes a night.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
It's just a lasagna. Mop honestly might have been bettered
than Dijana jop in lasagna. Mop's not a real person,
that's exactly right. Seven oh four five, seven oh ninety six.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
I've had three people say they would give up relations
with their significant other for a Panther super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
I I no, just no. Now.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
I also have to ask are you getting any currently,
because you can't give up what you're not getting, all right.
So if you're if you're out there and you're a
long suffering married man and you're saying, hey, I would
give up relations with the missus for a Panther super Bowl,
I have to ask, are you getting any right now?
Because that feels like a little bit of a loophole.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Answer.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
If you're not, then what are you actually giving up
in exchange for a Panther super Bowl?
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Well, you know, I'm single right now, but I hope
to eventually get into a marriage and have that problem.
I don't want to even think about that.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Seven oh four numbers just said I'd give up my
side piece. She's a three oh four anyway, all right,
but we are often running on with her.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Stay what about a three one one. What about that?
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Oh I heard Shrappy do that. We are Yeah, you're
going to play that later? Okay, I thought you might. Yeah,
Shroppy kind of stepped, but he's young. I can't get
too mad about that.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Anyway.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
We're all over the place. Seven oh four five seven
oh ninety six ten. What would you give up for
a Panther Super Bowl? What would you give up? Seven
oh four five seven ninety six ten. Salesman says, I'd
give up diet beers and my season tickets for a
Panther Super Bowl. So he give up diet beers and
he would stop going to Panthers games if they would
just win the Super Bowl, is what salesman said. Some
of these are hysterical. I would give up the Mac
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and Pull show. I think Mack and Bone would be
okay with that. Oh yeah, well Mac especially, they'd be
more than okay with that giving up their show. If
it bed a Panther Super Bowl, they'd be fine.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
I think Mac would give up grilling. Oh wait, never mind,
which reminds me.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
The smelling salts have been delivered to Lacasa de Bailey
as of about forty minutes ago. The smelling salts have
been delivered. I'm gonna have to find a way to
get those to Bone tonight. He and I are both,
you know, Motown residents, so I may have to drive
the smelling salts over to the mact to the to
Bon's place so that they have them for five point
fifty nine tomorrow morning to the start of the show.
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Because on the very first football Friday, like official Football Friday,
we all need to be hitting the smelling salts before
we go on the air tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Yeah. Luckily, you know, we have a strong visionary in
Colin Hoggard. He has made a rule one rule specifically
for this. They all can't get the smelling salts at
the same time, which for that show specifically, would be
a recipe of disaster. Yeah, Mac, Bone and Fittie all
hitting it at the same time. They need to stagger
those Mac especially.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
No, I want Mac going first though, like Mac needs
to go first to set the tone tomorrow morning with
these with these smelling salts, Mac has to go first.
I do like Hoggard's rule or suggestion that they can't
all do them at the same time, because I do
imagine a scenario where all three of them pass out
at the same time because of smelling salts on the air,
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and that's bad for everybody because there's nobody else available
to come take the mic at six am tomorrow morning,
So those things do need to be staggered.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
I was going to say, we'd have to rush Bo
Thompson or Matt Harris down the hall from the mix
and the BT to try to fill in for a
segment if that happen were to happen.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
All right, hit us up seven oh four five, seven
ninety six ten. What would you give up in exchange
for a Panther Super Bowl. We have one longtime NFL
writer suggesting yesterday that it's not that crazy that Carolina
could end up there. Now we're a long way from that,
and I do want to talk more about practice and
yesterday's joint practice and what to expect tomorrow night. In
the first preseason game of the year against the Cleveland Browns,
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Shadur Sanders will start for Cleveland, And it's not really
a Panther's narrative, but it is an interesting one coming
out of Cleveland. As you know, many folks up there
seem to think that Shador Sanders is being set up
to fail tomorrow night, and I just I don't understand
that that perspective. He's being given live NFL reps tomorrow night,
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and he should take do his best to take advantage
of them. And you know, anybody who wants to make
a referendum on one preseason game, or make rather one
preseason game a complete and total referendum on Shador Sanders,
you know career probably is inclined to not really like
the kid anyway. So I don't really take that seriously.
But you got to go play football. And I think
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that Kevin Stefanski would like to go out there and
see Shador Sanders make some plays tomorrow night, and probably
has tempered expectations, understands better than most what he's up against.
And you know the flip side of that is Carolina
Panthers fans are desperately hoping that Shadoor Sanders finds zero
success against the first and second teamers because we'd like
to see not only a stout and defensive performance by
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the starters tomorrow night, but the same from the death,
you know, with the second stringer. So we'll talk all
about it, stay right here. Sports Radio ninety two to
seven wfn Z, what would you give up? What would
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you sacrifice to the football gods for a Panthers Super Bowl.
We're only having the conversation because Russell Baxter joined Jr.
Sports Brief last night following a piece that he published
over at Sports Illustrated saying that the Panthers aren't crazy.
It's not as crazy as you'd think for the Panthers
to make the Super Bowl. That no one thinks they will,
but Russell said they're a long shot. But they're not
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that long a shot to make the super Bowl. So
we're talking about that to start the show. We got
a lot more to get to, but the texts coming
in are hilarious. Carolina Chilly says, I'd give up my wife,
no question, especially since she conspired with my buddy's wife
to keep them from driving from Durham to go to
the game with me because I invited him instead of
my wife, who could give a damn about football, So
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upset I had to leave work KB. I'm sorry to
hear that my wife also hurt my feelings. The other
day I saw there was a just an online question,
you know, would you rather for the rest of your life?
Would you rather give up kissing or condiments. And I
just floated that when to were in the kitchen, and
I did not get the response that I wanted. I
gotta be honest with you. You said kissing. No, No,
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I mean she didn't really want to answer the question.
Like I knew I married a condimic gal, like she
loves her some sauces. Now, I knew that. But the
fact that she didn't even at least tell me lie
to my face that she'd rather give up the condiments,
it hurt me a little bit. So I know the
feeling that he's feeling right now.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Yeah, it is tough. You don't care at all, It's okay. Well,
I mean you know, I haven't really got yeah, so.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Yeah, but you could put yourself in those shoes, the
woman that you love, that you've you've had children with,
that you've built a life with. I ask her a
simple honest question from something I see on the internet, like, hey,
this is funny. Would you rather give up kissing her
condiments for the rest of your life? And she's like,
here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
I'm not the best person ask because I don't really
barbecue sauce over me. No, no, no, But here's the
thing too. I also don't put that many condiments sometimes
on my food. You're not a condomic guy, not most
of the time. No, I'm a sauce guy. So like
you go like, for example, you go to bow Jangles
or you know, chicken fleg at yourself some chickens. Yeah,
I'll I'll get it with no like if anything, I'll
get honey mustard. But that's it. And I won't even
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get it that often. I'll just say yep, no sauces.
I'm good.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Oh god, Now I don't know. Just said I'd give
up absolutely nothing. We should be expecting greatness every season
and settle for nothing.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Less.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Is that is that mark from Fort Mills Burner. Come on,
stop being that guy. I'd give up nothing. It's not
that serious. We're having fun. Most people on the text
line are having fun. Like English Paul said he'd give
up baseball. I know for a fact English Paul hates baseball,
so it's not really a big thing for him. That's funny. Uh,
some seven oh four numbers, said my father in law.
The bagel guy said my mother in law. All right, well,
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we got some themes that are being generated here. What
would you sacrifice to the football gods for the Panthers
to win a Super Bowl seven oh four five, seven
oh ninety six ten.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Hit me up and let me know. Let's going to say,
kind of shocked a Bagel guy even has a fadder
in law because he's still incredibly young. Remember we met
him out of the March Babel guy. Yeah, I think
he's like my age. Really pretty sure. He looks a
lot longer, younger than you. No offense.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
I mean, I'm not an agent, but like I'm pushing forty,
I'm pretty sure he's my age.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
I was gonna say he looked closer to my age
than your age.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Maybe he'll tell us on the text line, maybe he'll
volunteer that information. But he looks young when I met him,
so I was kind of shocked that he's married and
has a father in laws. Three people say they'd give
up their their job, their profession, and that they like
their job and that they'd give it up in a
heartbeat for a Panther Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
They liked their job, that's what.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Yeah, I've got multiple people say, Hey, I like my
job and I'd give up my job for a Panther
Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
That's that's a little too much. It takes it a
little too high. Look, I love my football teams, but
I'm not gonna let my you know, life and career,
you know, get in the way of that. In that sense,
I'll give away some ancillary stuff that I don't like
that I like a lot, like wrestling, for example. But sure, no,
I'm not gonna go over that.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
All right, Don of Abama Fans says she'd give up
diet sprite only if Bryce was the quarterback when we
won the Super Bowl. Diet Sprite is Don of the
Bama Fans answer, I love this audience, all right. Seven
oh four five, seven ninety six ten. Hit us up
on the FanDuel text line National Headlines today. All right,
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we have had multiple really bad injuries across the NFL
and training camp, the most recent one being Rayshawn Slater
with the Chargers.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
It was actually carted off the field today after he
got rolled up on in you know, it would look
like a I think it was eleven on eleven, but
you know, pass protection, you know, rep no matter what,
and he got rolled up on and it's it appears
to be based on the video that I saw and
that you showed me specifically, that one looks bad. It
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is you know, you never know until you get the MRIs,
the X rays and you know you get the imaging
back to see what's actually damaged. But that one looked
really bad for Rayshawn Slater, who just got a new deal.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
By the way, yeah, non contact, So glad he got
the new deal. Especially now was it non contact? I
thought he got rolled up on. It might have been.
It might have been rolled up on, but it was
pretty close to non contact. It was just one. It
wasn't one where like someone just completely stepped on his
leg ands like, oh yeah, I can absolutely see it there.
It looked like just a routine play. He just fell over.
And now there's a lot of concern, But I mean,
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that don't have a big impact potential in the AFC
if he is severely hurt, because he's one of the
best left tackles in the game right now.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
No question about it, you know, even though Matt Rule
did not think so, the Nordon Scott Fitterer coming out
of the draft. But anyway, that's the you know, water
under the bridge. So ray Shawn Slater gets hurt and CJ.
Gardner Johnson was carted off the field from Texans practice
a couple of hours ago. So I mean the Gardner
Johnson one. That's terrible for Houston if it turns out
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to be really serious. Obviously, I think we'd all typically
agree that you're starting left tackle who you just gave
a fat new deal to, that is that's a worse injury,
you know, if you're comparing the two, both bad, but
you know, you never that that's outside of the quarterback.
There's really nothing worse than losing your starting left tackle
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of that caliber.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
It's two WA two B between that and a d
drusher Alie Eddrusch.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
This also got me thinking about the most devastating injuries
in the history of sports, you know what I mean, Like,
and I'm not talking about injuries that derailed individual careers
necessarily so much as you know, devastating injuries that derailed
team's success.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
You know what I mean. I was about to say
Kevin Ware, but that did not derail team success.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
No, no, no, We're talking about you know, nasty injuries that
truly derailed team's success. Think about like Derrick Henry twenty
twenty one Tennessee Titans fractures his foot in Week eight.
They were the number one seed. They were dominating with
him on pace for a two thousand yard rushing season,
and they end up still making the playoffs, but they
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get eliminated in the divisional round. He got back and
suited up for that game, but he was nowhere close
to the player that was, you know out there prior
to the injury. The offense was built around him, as
we all know. I'm thinking about that one. Hell, I mean,
oh way, Tom Brady, here's his acl Week one for
the Patriotsard Parlow to change the rule in the NFL.
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Like that's we're talking about injuries that completely derailed seasons. Here,
Terrell Owens two thousand and four broke his leg in
Week fifteen. The Eagles were not the same after that.
I was gonna say, they still made the Super Bowl
and he still played in that game. Yeah, but do
they win the Super Bowl with.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Him at one hundred close to Yeah, that's a good
point because it was a one score game. Okay. Also
didn't help that Donovan was sick there in that game. Oh,
here's a good one. Here's a good one. Go to basketball.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Twenty twelve Chicago Bulls Derreck Rose game one of the playoffs.
They were the number one seed in the East, best
record in the NBA and he tears his ACL and
they lose to the eight seed Philadelphia seventy six Ers
in the first round. I mean, that was that Bulls team.
You never know, you can't predict the future, but a
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lot of folks thought that team was winning a title.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
It was definitely gonna make the Eastern Conference that it
was gonna make it much harder because I mean, they're
in that area. You had the Pacers with Paul George
and Roy Hibbert at their peak, and they were they
were like the Heat were gonna have to get through
six tough games to get through that. Imagine if they
had to go through two rounds like that with prime
Derek Rowse and that Bowl team, which was a tough
nosed team going against the Heat, who knows, I don't know.
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I don't think they would have gone back and back,
especially if he was healthy for twenty thirteen because they
barely got by the Spurs. Imagine you have to go
in through two series like that and then oh, by
the way, now you have to go against the veteran Spurs.
So I definitely think that one I do need to
mention this one because it's one that I don't think
gets mentioned enough and would have had a drastic difference
in the hierarchy of the NFC in the late nineties
(25:25):
early two thousands, Garrison Hurst torn Achilles NFC Divisional game
against the Falcons. Think about the butterfly effect in that
because he gets hurt in the first play a game
that was his career year in nineteen ninety eight, and
that means he's already out for the ninety nine season.
If he doesn't get hurt in that game, they probably
win because I think because it was close enough still
(25:45):
with the Falcons and Chris Chandler, then think about it.
Instead of the Falcons Vikings, you get an NFC championship
game between Randall Cunningham and Steve Young. If the Vikings lose,
it's not the Falcons that are just a bunch of
sparky underdogu that got hot at the right time. It's no.
You either have John Elway in his last game in
the Denver Broncos going against either Steve Young in the
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forty nine ers or Randall Cunningham and the air raid
not air Raid, but like the high powered offense with
Randy Mawson, Chris Carter. Yeah, think about that and then't
in ninety nine. It would have been big for him
not to get a twenty killies because what happened in
Game three, well, actually what happened I don't remember, but
what you do Lark Phillips missed the pass block, Steve
(26:27):
Young gets concussed. That was the last game of his career.
So maybe if Garrison Hurst doesn't get hurt, he's there
to pass block against Arizona in Week three, Steve Young
doesn't get hurt and didn't, the forty nine ers still
have one more run to potentially go for the playoffs
and win it all in nineteen ninety nine. Two. Now
I like that. I love that point. I do.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Now here's one from the college football ranks that I
really Timely Thomas was the first person that I saw
send this in Jordan Travis twenty twenty three, Florida State.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
It would have been even more damning if they let
him out. If they kept him out with Jordan Travis
in there healthy. Yeah, what's funny too.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
It's not funny, but like we were standing at joint
practice yesterday Panthers and Browns. But a year ago it
was Aaron Rodgers and the Jets in town for joint practice,
and who was one of the quarterbacks in that QB
room last year for the Jets, Jordan Travis. And I
recall having people just standing around having those conversations like, man,
what could have been Jordan Travis by the way broke
(27:22):
his leg in week twelve? Was that it was a
directional school he broke his leg against.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Was it was it Jacksonville State?
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (27:33):
No, it was where Roman was yesterday? It was North Alabama. Yeah,
it was North Alabama. We took in the first quarter. Yeah,
first quarter. They were thirteen and oh ACC champions and
of course you know if it's a front was Top Knox. Yeah,
but they get left out of the College Football Playoff
because the committee felt like they weren't the same without
Jordan Travis. So that's a great one. Let's not forget
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Cam Newton twenty eighteen Pittsburgh. You know, I don't know
how you feel about that, and you know, relative to
the rest, but he did continue to play. The crazy
thing is you look at the two games after that,
he was actually still really good. Right Like the Detroit game,
I know he missed a two point conversion for Ochierius, right,
(28:13):
but it was still a strong game from him, And
then the week after that against Seattle, it was one
of the most efficient games of his career. Yeah, so
it's just the Tampa game was when things really went
off the rails. It's like, oh, he's airmailing these froze
bad because his shoulder was more bumped. But I still
think it was gonna happen either way. Here's one that
doesn't get mentioned enough within his fan base, and Colin
(28:33):
has been preaching to the choire for this for years.
Steven Davis getting pulled on IR in two thousand and five.
Oh because what was the record then? Eleven and five?
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Okay, because what happened was ther Deshan Foster has to
run his career into playoffs, but then gets hurt against Chicago.
He's out for the year. It's like, okay, you got
Nick Goings. You know Nick Goings had eight hundred plus
yards and oh four, but then he gets hurt and
early in the game against Seattle, And did you have
a bunch of guys just a bunch of random guys
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playing running back And if the IRA rules were what
they are now, would have been different. Unfortunately, back then,
when you got put on IR, you were out for
the year, no matter which week you were put on.
So a semi healthy Stephen Davis would have still been
available in an NFC championship game. That's a great point.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Real quick. A few of these come again. Kevin Durant
and Klay Thompson twenty nineteen. KD tears is KDE ruptures
achilles in game five?
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Yeah? It was? And then Clay game six tears is
ACL because they made it. It's like, well, it sucks
that KD got injured, but we got game six, Clay.
Their bringing up because Klay Thompson in game six is
was unstoppable. And then I think it was on the
breakaway fast break layup or something was when he tore
his achilles and it was like, oh, okay, over.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
That hold that thought. Aggie Pride just said Colt McCoy
in the National Championship Game that I mean, that's that's
near the top two. All right, we're gonna come back
to this. We got Cameron Wolf of the NFL Network
coming up in about seven minutes. Right now, we go
to smoke on the headlines.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Who is smoke? Where is smoked? Where there's smoke, there's fire.
Let's go what you got? All right? Do you want
to have a clarification for what we talked about two
days ago with the smelling salts. The NFL is banning
smelling salts, but banning the teams from using the smelling salts.
The players can still use it, but they got to
bring their own smelling salts to to party.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
It can no longer be brought by the team, Kyle,
all right, So it's bring your own smelling salts. Yes,
they're not banned from the sidelines, but the teams are
banned from providing them.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Yes, all right, there you go. What else you got?
All right? And keeping things in the NFL. We talked
a lot about the Micah Parsons contract situation. There has
been one that's really gone under the radar, and I'm
kind of shocked. James Cook is currently having in hold
a hold in with the Buffalo Bills as he's seeking
a new deal. This is big because you know, the
Bills are still trying to compete for a Super Bowl.
They don't know if the windows closing, you know, By
(30:50):
the way, James Cook has been the best running back
that they've had under the Josh Allen Era hard On.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
I got a buddy who works in law enforcement. He
came over to my place on Sunday for my brother
my one's birthday party, and I bet he's not in
my kitchen five minutes and the first words out of
his mouth after all the pleasantry is worse. So what
do you think the Bills are gonna do with James Cook?
I don't know, man, I don't know. All right, Well,
come back, Cameron Wolfe, NFL Network, he was at Panthers
(31:16):
practice yesterday. We'll get his thoughts. Sports Radio ninety two
seven wfn Z. Hey, the FanDuel text line is bumping
(31:36):
here in the Queen City. Everybody's chiming in. Man, really
good stuff. What you would sacrifice to the football gods
for a Panther super Bowl? That took off in the
beginning of the show. And now we're talking about the
most devastating injuries in sports. And I'm not talking about,
you know, horrible, horrific injuries like Kevin Ware at Louisville.
You know, we're talking about injuries to players that derailed
team's success. We don't know yet what the situation is
(31:59):
with ray Sewn Slay or really CJ. Gardner Johnson, but
Slater in particular, that would be a massive blow to
Jim Harbaugh, the Charger. So we'll get back to all that.
Shout out by the way to Vashti Hurt, Carolina blitz Her,
and Walker Rock the mic earlier today in the middays,
and we appreciate y'all sticking around with us, and especially
right now. We got a great guest on the line,
Cameron Wolf, NFL Network reporter. He's on his camp tour.
(32:22):
My man is in and out of TSA lines in
the month of August, visiting training camps all over the country,
and he made a stop in the Queens City this
week and took in joint practice with the Browns with
us yesterday, and Cameron Wolf is with us on the hotline. Cameron,
what's going on, brother? How you been?
Speaker 4 (32:37):
I'm good man. How you doing today?
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Good good? I liked what I saw yesterday from Carolina.
We were talking about this yesterday and I was listening
to a little bit of Cleveland Sports Radio to see
what they thought. And you know, it does seem like everybody,
including most of the Cleveland media, believes that, you know,
Carolina looked like the better football team yesterday. It's just
a joint practice. It doesn't mean anything toward regular season six,
(33:00):
But it doesn't mean nothing like what did you think yesterday?
Speaker 3 (33:03):
What did you see and what was your opinion?
Speaker 4 (33:05):
Yeah, let's keep it real. Everybody wants to be the
winner of the joint practice. You want to have the
tougher team, you want to have the team that looks better.
And I'd agree. I think that for that day, Carolina
definitely looked like the better team. And I think maybe
more importantly for Carolina was where they look like the
better team. I know last year the defensive side of
the ball got a lot of a lot of issues,
(33:25):
and the run defense in particular. I was really impressed
to see how the run defense held up against Cleveland,
a team that wants to run the ball, wants to
be physical. They were definitely winning that battle up front.
The defense, you know, flash throughout the day. And Bryce
had a nice day too, so you know, I definitely
think that's a win. Now, Cleveland may not be a
very good team good team this year, but if you're
(33:47):
better than the team in front of you, that's always.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
A win absolutely right now, Now go back to Bryce,
really quickly, because this is a really big year for him.
Over there, you know they're downplaying it a little bit.
I think we all understand why they don't want to
go too crazy with keeping expectations on anybody but their
quarterback in particular. But you and I both know it's
a really big year for Bryce. Like, what are you expecting?
How important was yesterday toward that? And what kind of
(34:10):
season do you think he needs to have to solidify
his place as the franchise quarterback in Carolina.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
Yeah, it's monumental. I mean, like, honestly, year three is
when you start talking about are rescinding the guy or
a re looking to replace him? And we know how
it went last year where it looks like for a
while he was getting replaced and then he revives it.
You go two ways. Either build upon the last three
four games the last year and solidify yourself as a
no doubt quarterback, or you're bringing those doubts again back
(34:37):
into question and then you start to say, hey, do
we have to look somewhere else? So, I mean, this
is the biggest year of his career. It's going to define,
in my opinion, if this guy's going to be a
ten twelve plus year starter in Carolina, or if this
is just another stop in the Carolina franchise quarterback search trains.
So from what I've seen so far, I'm definitely leaning
(34:58):
towards the former. He looks like a different I've been
in camp every off season since he's been drafted here,
and he by far looks the most comfortable, confident in
command that I've seen him. And he certainly looks like
a guy that you know, has been through some things,
and because of that, he's he's a little bit more
ready for the adversity that strikes through a season. So
(35:20):
even the day, you know, I was there the Tuesday
and Wednesday raining all through practice, easy for you to
go and just kind of easy lolly gag through a practice,
he was getting guys together in the huddle, you know,
being vocal in a way that I don't think many
people think of us. Think of him as a vocal guy,
and those little things help your guys around you feel confident.
(35:41):
You know, everything strives from the quarterback. Do you believe
your guy is good enough to lead you to where
you want to go? And talking to some people there,
I think the guys are finally starting to believe that
Bryce can take us to where we're trying to go.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
What did you think of the organization's decision to get
him another weapon in the form of Ted Roll McMillan
in the first round, as opposed to making a premier
defensive player like pretty much everybody thought they were going
to do.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
Yeah, I loved it because nothing is more important than
giving your quarterback a chance to see And I think
that's how you build franchises, right. Yes, you always want
to have a great defense, but when you have a
young quarterback, especially one that is on a rookie deal,
you have to maximize that window. And it seemed like
last off season the priority was to get better in
the trenches. You sign Robert Hunt, you signed Damian Lewis,
(36:27):
you give them both big contracts, and both of those
seem like they've worked out tremendously, and now you go
get him as number one, and now it's up to Bryce.
Now you can eliminate some of the excuses, some of
the reasons and say, hey, Bryce, we've done everything we
can and let's find out if you're the guy. And
if he can show that in later years, you can
start to build up that defense. But I think more
(36:49):
important than anything this season is is deciding if Bryce
is the guy and getting him in a position to see.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
We've got Cameron Wolf NFL Network with us on his
camp tour right now making a stop in Charlotte. Let
me back off the roster for a second, because you know,
you're right, you're around a lot. You have sources in
the building, and we talked to some of the same people,
I'm sure, and you know, those seats have changed in
the last couple of years in the offseason, right Dan
Morgan's there now, Brent Tillis is next to him. They
(37:15):
brought him over from Kansas City after he negotiated Patrick
Mahomes record setting deal. They've got some really impressive people
in the building. And David Tepper, you know, is now
seven years into ownership. They haven't made the playoffs, and
it does seem like he's kind of backed out of
the spotlight a bit and is allowing the football guys
to do the football work. What are your thoughts on
the front office, how they're operating now and what that
(37:36):
could mean toward future success.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
Yeah. I like what Dan Morgan is building, you know,
I think there's a lot of questions obviously in the
fan base of Dan take it over for Scott given
how close they were. But you can tell Dan has
a clear, separate identity of how he wants to build
the team, and he certainly has has done a lot
of work in trying to make this a physical team,
kind of like how he was as a player. You
see it, and how they built the offensive line last
(37:59):
offseason and this year it seems like the additions on
the defensive side. You know, Bobby Brown flashed a couple
of days when I was out there in practice. He
seems like he's having a good camp. Turk Warden same thing.
Guys that can supplement Derrick Brown. And then obviously Nick
Skearraton when he's healthy and full go maybe give you
another pass rusher off the edge. So you know, these
guys got to be players. But there's clear intentionality and
(38:21):
how we want to build this team. And to your point,
you're right, Dave Temper, he was at the center of
everything over the last couple of years, and he's certainly
taken a less visible spectrum, you know, And I remember
the last time I saw him was Week eighteen, walking
out of that Panthers Falcons game. I saw him in
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the tunnel and he told me, I think we've got
our quarterback, and that was he felt strongly about that,
and that was really the last time I've seen him,
and most people have seen him kind of around significantly,
and so I think that's kind of a sign of, Hey,
I'm going to let my football guys do the work
and it's on them to do it right. I think
that's a good development for the team and we're going
(39:03):
to see how it goes from there.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Since I've been here at the head coach spot, I've
been through Ron Rivera, I've been through Matt Ruhle, briefly
Frank Reich and now Dave Canalis and so you know,
that's a stretch that might, you know, harden some people,
but we've seen a lot, you know what I mean.
And I'm looking at Dave. When he got here, he
didn't really have any other offers. He was largely unknown.
He took a big risk going to Tampa on that staff.
(39:27):
It could have only lasted a year, and he's parlayed
it now into his first head coaching job. You know,
I've been talking about the fact that he's also been
calling offensive plays and never once last year was that
a real concern or conversation. A lot of guys can't
do that. It's too big a struggle. But you know,
he made it and nobody really talked much about it.
The players seem to really believe in this guy. You've
been around a lot of coaches, You've talked to a
(39:48):
lot of coaches. What stands out to you about Dave
that maybe you know there's DNA there, or there are
characteristics to you that make you think, okay, he's the
real deal.
Speaker 4 (39:57):
Yeah. I think mainly my thing for these offensive young
coaches is can you coach the whole team? I think
a lot of times these guys are brought on because
of the work they do with the quarterback. And you know, Dave,
to be fair, that was a large reason why he
got hired, what he did with Baker down there and
how he helped him elevate and now you have a
(40:17):
full fifty two. And I think what was really cool,
and we talked to Dave about this on NFL Network
this past week, was that, you know, you get a
situation like Bryce where you really get a moment of
adversity to see how you handle a tough time A
tough decision that your quarterback, as he said to us,
(40:38):
didn't agree with. And I'm sure there were some people
in the locker room that did, some people that didn't.
How do you keep people together, how do you not
create a di vide? How do you not lose the
locker room? How do you not lose that young quarterback?
And I think that was a very difficult challenge he
had in the second third week of the season. And
the way they are trying to move past that and
continue to develop the team, I think is a tribute
(41:00):
of their trust and leadership. If he didn't trust the guy,
you crap out, you know and say, hey, wait, we
benched oar our young quarterback, and he ended up playing well,
like what are you doing here? And I think that
the way they responded, of the way Bryce responded, I
think as a testament to maybe how he builds those
individual relationships even through tough times. And you know, I
(41:23):
think even this offseason, you see him more comfortable in
his own landscape and not his hyper sensitive on having
his hands on everything. Like you mentioned the play calling element.
He's had his offensive coina or at call plays all
off season. He's gonna call plays on the preseason game
on Friday, and that's something that young coaches are often
hesitant to give up because of sometimes ego, but sometimes
(41:45):
it's like, man, this is why I got the job,
this is why they need me. And I think you
see Dave understanding that my value is more than just
my scheme and my play calling.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
All right, last thing, We'll get you out of here
tomorrow night, preseason game number one. We don't expect to
see much of the starters Dave told us yesterday, ideally
eight to twelve plays, but Shador Sanders will start on
the other side. And I think we're all, at least
to some degree, really interested, fascinated by what he's going
to look like, not just now but into the future.
You know, there's a lot of I think a lot
(42:14):
of conjecture coming out of Cleveland about they're setting him
up to fail, and I don't know that I agree
with that necessarily, but I'm intrigued like everybody else, what
do you expect to see it from him tomorrow night?
But also how Cleveland handles him over the next several weeks.
Speaker 4 (42:27):
Yeah, I think he's going to play most of the game.
It's not all of the game. Which is going to
be cool for people who watch. And again i'll give
a plug here. It's going to be on the NFL network.
I'd imagine it's one of the more highly watched preseason
games of this year, if not in a while, because
of like you said, Shador Sanders and the lightning ride.
You got a lot of people that love him, get
a lot of people that question them. Either way, people
were talking, and when you got a guy that people
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talk about and he can play most of the game,
people are going to tune in. And like you said,
on the Carolina side, you're getting to play your starters.
You're getting to play Bryce Young for you know, maybe
a dozen plays. So it's going to be a lot
to I think that. My view from the situation is
door Standers has been the fourth quarterback for most of
the off season. Now everybody has their opinion on should
(43:09):
he be the fourth? Why is he the fourth? Regardless
the coaches have had him as the fourth quarterback. Joe
Flacco's not playing because he's forty years old and he
doesn't needing preseason reps. Your other two quarterbacks are injured,
and so what an opportunity for a guy who's fourth
from a depth chart, a fifth round pick to really
show what he's got And regardless of the circumstance, regardless
(43:32):
if you say, oh, he has this many reps with
the ones, this and that. All people ask for is
a chance, you know, especially the guys that are Day
three picks. And I got a feeling that is gonna
relish this opportunity. I get a feeling just watching how
he's worked and listening to people in that building. He's
not gonna say, oh, it's me, what was me? And
you know I haven't played with any ones and Jered
(43:54):
Judy's not playing and what about this? I think he's
just gonna say, hey, let's go do it. And I
think we're gonna get a very good version of Shador Standers.
And I can't wait to see it. I know everybody
else can't wait to see it. And I know Panthers
fans it's just a preseason game. I hope they can
enjoy it, at least for a little bit, seeing the
kid do a thing.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
I'm right there with you, Cameron. Great seeing you yesterday, buddy,
and we'll see you tomorrow night. Thank you for the time.
Speaker 4 (44:16):
Absolutely, thank you guys.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
You Cameron Wolf NFL Network. With us hanging out here
on a Thursday, we'll talk about it more on the
other side. Our two Next Sports Radio ninety two to
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