September 8, 2025 • 48 mins
Kyle starts the show by looking at everything that went wrong in the Panthers 26-10 loss to the Jags, and what changes have to be made moving forward on both sides of the ball to see actual improvement.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
All right, folks, let's get right to it.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
I can't even sit down in studio and the phones
are ringing. We got Panthers fans that want to talk,
and i'd imagine Panthers fans that want to scream and shout,
So let's get right to it. The Carolina Panthers went
down to Jacksonville yesterday and looked flat out awful. No
sugarcoating anything about this. When you can't polish this turd.
You lost to Liam Cohen, a rookie head coach with
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a staff literally working their first regular season game together,
and they outclassed you start to finish. That's embarrassing on
every level. This Panthers team looks sloppy, unprepared, overwhelmed and
well defensively, same tired script right over two hundred yards
rushing aloud.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Again.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
That's seven straight games of getting gashed for two hundred
plus yards, and the ninth time already under Dave Canalis,
who coached his eighteenth game yesterday, and here's the kicker,
per Mike Kay of the Charlotte Observer, is euro Everro
has now been the Panthers defensive coordinator for thirty five
total games, and in twenty six of them, as defense
has given up one hundred and twenty yards on the ground.
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That's not a hiccup, that's an identity. And then you
look at Bryce Young multiple turnovers of fumble when all
he had to do was slide. Brother, I don't care
if you didn't play baseball. How at no point in
the first two plus years of this kid's tenure has
someone out there said, take your cleats off, we're going
to practice sliding. After practice, you're five to ten a
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buck eighty and you're stumbling and falling into two hundred
and forty pound linebackers looking to punch the football out
and you can't even be bothered to cover the football
up with both arms.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Pathetic.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
And then on fourth and fourth down, it throws the
all the way in the end zone on fourth down,
gives nobody a chance to make a play. That's not
just a mistake, that's football malpractice. But the real indictment.
The offense looked like it had no clue how to
operate at times in this game, multiple timeouts just to
avoid delay of game penalties, to play clock winding down
to under three seconds before nearly every snap, no tempo,
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no urgency, no attempt to play fast or dictate anything
for much of the game until the fourth quarter, really
when the game was already over. That's on Bryce. That's
on the offensive line at times, and it's certainly on
the coaching staff. And oh yeah, Xavier League Get certainly
didn't help himself either. I'll say it right now to
start this show today. I am out on Xavier League
Get until proven otherwise you might think that's an overreaction.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
It's not.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Year two wide out fails to get his feet down
on a routine sideline catch after Bryce had shot one
up the seam to JT.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Sanders.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Looked like they had a little bit of momentum, right,
and then here comes Excel on a routine sideline catch
that should have been a chunk play, taking him down
inside the third yard line, helping to set them up
to potentially score. And then after failing the toe drag
somehow immediately blows a block on a short yardage play.
Mark schlaira the color analyst on the broadcast yesterday ripped
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him justifiably for poor effort, and he deserved it. That's
the kind of sequence that gets you buried in a
hurry with your own fans, the ones that aren't already
out on you to begin with. And then, of course
yesterday Dave Canalis stepping up to the podium and admitting
he's got to look at himself and his staff to
figure out why this team wasn't prepared well. You got
out coached by a group that had never worked a
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regular season game together.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
It's a brutal look.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
They weren't awesome on the other side, but they were
certainly better than you.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Now.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Sure, it's only week one, there's a long way to go,
but make no mistake, the clock is already ticking, Bryce,
Young Dave Canalis. The clock is ticking. No more freebies,
no more mulligans. Because in the David Tepper era, this
organization is now thirty six and eighty one. They lose
season openers, and typically lose them ugly. Yesterday from a
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scoreboard standpoint, wasn't as bad as it could have been,
especially given that a pick six was wiped off the board.
But everything about it was ugly. The Panthers don't just lose,
they lose the exact same way over and over again.
It seems like in these scenarios, and unless this staff,
in this quarterback change that script in a hurry, Panthers
fans are in for another miserable ride in twenty twenty five.
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Seven oh four five seven oh ninety six ten. Panthers fans,
I know you've got thoughts after watching that train wreck
down in du Vault yesterday. If you feel inclined to
light this team up today, phone lines open seven oh
four five seven oh ninety six ten, or hit us
up on the FanDuel text line same number.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Let's hear it.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
I know a lot of you are chomping at the
bit to let us know how you feel about this game.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
It was. It was awful.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Yesterday was And the worst part is, you know, they
did show some glimpses offensively. They did make a couple
of plays. The offense did show a little bit of
competency at times, but it was the lack of consistency,
the bone headed plays. The defense. Again, some of the
things they were doing defensively just took us right back
to twenty twenty five, and this was the big fear
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for a lot of Panthers fans and especially those who've
been beating the drum that this team still sucks, there's
still no good this defense isn't going to be much better,
so on and so forth. After one game, we all
know that we're not supposed to overreact. But when it
looks like that again, when once again you come in
off and off season, well, actually, for the first time,
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you're coming out of an off season where your quarterback
had the same playbook, had the same coach, had time
to build some chemistry with his wide receivers, so on
and so forth. You drafted the first rounder in ted
Ro McMillan, you brought back the entire offensive line, and yes,
there were some instances out there where it was a
bit more execution than coaching or you know, even preparedness.
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But I've heard so much this offseason about culture. We
want our kind of guys. We want dogs, We want
dudes that you know, they love football, they live and
breathe football. We want guys to fit our culture what
we think it should be. Well, a big part of culture,
a big part of culture, if not the biggest part
of culture is your guys being ready to play, and
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that football team, outside of a couple of examples, or
rather exceptions, yesterday, did not look ready to play.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Shout out j C.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Horn.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
That guy had a good day.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Of course, the highlight interception Brian Thomas certainly didn't get
loose a ton yesterday. That's a credit to JC Horn
as well, But he was one of about three or
four guys that I mean that can be excluded from
the ripping that I'm sure the fans are going to
deliver the team today here on WFNZ and quite frankly
have been seven oh four five, seven ninety six to ten.
Hit us up on the FanDuel text line. I went
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to bed early last night. I had the worst football
weekend of all time. I came out of Saturday and
Sunday smoke. I don't need any pity party or we
don't even need to focus on my Saturday just yet.
But like I was already in a bad mood going
into Sunday, I was hoping this team could look competent
on the road, but instead.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
This is what we got. How are you feeling today? Perturbed?
Speaker 5 (07:02):
And you know, I don't think pissed is the right
way to go about it, but just really perturbed at
the execution. Just how flat this team came across throughout
the whole entire game, on both sides of the football,
specifically offense. It's it's one thing because I feel like
this defense is going to be working to progress this year,
just because you still have so many new faces and
you're not going to go from worse to first. You're
likely going to go best case scenario, worse to the
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middle of the pack. But the fact that you still
were able to give up that many rushing yards, you know,
the fact that the offense really just shot themselves in
the flat. I mean you go back and look at
the total yardage and look at how they were moving
the ball down the field. They were moving the ball
a little bits too minute drill that would have been
at very least three points. That gets you to a
twenty six thirteen game. In the end game, you had
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the fourth and goal. If you take advantage of it
or just get one yard, that would have been six
points at least. That makes it twenty six nineteen, twenty
six to twenty with the extra point, So now you're
within a one score game. It's just a lot of
stupid mistakes and errors that really cost them, and the
preparedness just really didn't seemed like it was ever ever there,
and the players didn't seem like they're in synct. The
amount of bad snaps that Austin Corbett had the Bryce
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Young were substantial, and it just everything. It was like
there was a haze over this offense throughout the whole
entire day and for worse.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
The team. It's like a mental block.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
It's like a mental you can almost see it happening
on the field again yesterday when things go poorly. There
is this very real sense to me of watching this
team like, oh, here we go again right now. I
don't know what you call it, the chuck KNOAWB block
yips or the I don't know what it is, but
it's the quarterback too. When things go wrong, it's like
they have to cascade. It has to turn into an avalanche.
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It just yesterday again. I don't expect you to be perfect,
but you've got a first time head coach on the
other side of the field whose offense looked ready to play.
They looked like the things that they did made a
lot more sense than what Carolina did. And it's not
always as cut and dry as they aren't ready to play,
or this guy sucks, you know, things of that nature.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Austin Corbett. I did not see that coming yesterday.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
I think, you know, Bryce certainly backed away from because
it seemed like during the game he was pretty frustrated
with Austin Corbett.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
I know we all were.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
I'm sure Austin Corbett was also frustrated with himself, but
it seemed to me like Bryce was pretty frustrated, and
then as a leader, really should kind of walked it
back in the postgame, like I played great, it's fine,
we just got to figure this out. So you don't
want to throw each under the bus, each other under
the bus. You don't want to see that kind of stuff.
But the Corbett thing, just the early snaps not being
on the same page. Obviously, it throws Bryce's footwork off.
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And we know that so much of what they do offensively,
what Dave Canalis designs offensively, is tied directly into Bryce
Young's footwork, and so when you have these sudden snaps,
it throws everything off. And I know I'm bouncing all
over the place here, but like it seemed at times
like they wanted to run the football. But then you
get fourth and one, you know, down there inside the
ten yard line, and yeah, you've run it twice unsuccessfully.
But then on fourth and one you go with an
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empty set and then Bryce compounds it again, as he
did two or three times yesterday, by throwing it out
of the back of the end zone instead of giving
somebody a chance to make a play. I know it's
easy for me to sit up here and say run
the ball, run the ball, run the ball. But if
you're going to talk about that being your identity, this
is the culture of who we are. This is what
we're gonna be. We're gonna run the ball. We added
one thousand yard back, we drafted Trevory t In. This
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is who we want to be. Well, for no other
reason than principal, line up and run it again. As
far as I'm concerned, line up. I realize you want
to let your quarterback make plays. But if that's who
you want to be, then do that be that team?
Or are you admitting that you're not capable of it,
or maybe you know you can't run off the left
side yesterday because Josh Nyman was pretty bad. Three of
the five offensive lineman yesterday had really good grades. Taylor Moteen,
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Robert Hunt, Damien Lewis all had good days. They did
Austin Corbett and yosh Niman, though we're terrible. Absolutely. I
think Corbett's pass blocking grade was like a twenty seven.
I'm pretty sure Nyman was like thirty if I'm not mistaken.
Somewhere in that neighborhood.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
Yeah, hey, hey, hey, Ichy sucks though he's the worst
thing ever, right, No, no, no, these people need to
be silent.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
They need to be humbled by that too.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
There's been a lot of people that have been going
after Ichy over the last few years, and I get it.
Twenty twenty three was bad. Shut your trap. Okay, he
only had two bad games last year. There's a reason
why they're thinking about paying him a pretty good penny
in the coming weeks. Okay, Ikey, while never possibly being
elite at pass blocking, I think is good. He's good
and at the very worst, if you have a good
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left tackle at at your left tackle spot for ten years,
that's really good.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Just shut up.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Give me for give me fifteen if you would please.
And I think we have two number fifteens on our
cut sheet today on a It's okay, give me the
first one, because I'm always interested in what the head
coach has to say directly after a game like that,
but especially so on Monday, right the day after, when
they're once they've watched the tape, because obviously in the
postgame press conference, you know, they haven't had a chance.
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He hasn't had a chance to watch the tape. Today
he has, and Dave Canalis had an interesting press conference
earlier this afternoon. Here he is with his opening statement
on what he saw when he watched the tape.
Speaker 6 (12:09):
You know, really uh, you know, just a humbling game.
Just to kind of look at where we're at right now.
Had a chance to talk to the team and I said, look,
let's take a picture of this. Just look at let's
look right at it, you know, and look at the
different areas that we need to improve. And the things
that we're looking at are fundamental things that we work on,
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that we're counting on. And I think the more that
we can make the progress tangible for them, something that
they can see and say, Okay, well if we work
on this, we practice this, this will lead you know,
to success, This will lead to improvement and what we're doing.
That's that's the way we try to do it on Mondays.
And so we looked at the clips. You know, we
looked at the turnovers, we looked at the mistackles, the
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fundamental parts of it, you know, looked at the the
processes at the you know, against some pretty pretty challenging looks,
some pretty challenging pressure looks that we can certainly sort
out that we have done in the past, and to
make sure that we're on the same page. So you know,
we just watched it together as a team, you know,
started with special teams clips and went to offense, went
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to defense, and said, let's look at this and let's
take a step forward, and we know what we're working
on going into this week.
Speaker 7 (13:22):
All right.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
I thought Dave was much more reflective today, as again
you would expect after watching the tape, and you know,
being able to figure out what happened in certain instances,
what went right, what went wrong, how they can fix it,
whose fault it was, so on and so forth. Also
interesting today. And I'm glad whoever it was asked this,
I forgot who asked the question, but I was watching
it live when they did, so I'm sorry that I
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can't give this out. But Dave was asked if he
had any conversations with Dave Tepper after that game?
Speaker 8 (13:49):
What did your honor say about how did he feel
about the performance?
Speaker 2 (13:53):
And he said, you didn't like the team was out there?
Speaker 7 (13:55):
What did he say to your affors?
Speaker 2 (13:56):
We had some great conversations.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
We had some great conversations. We had some I bet
you did, I bet you did. How listen, I don't
think he's in danger being fired tomorrow or next week
or the week after. I have found it interesting though,
that you know Vegas continues. The odds makers continue to
include Dave Canalis in the top five odds of the
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first coach to be fired in twenty twenty five, even
though he's just going into year two. But I would
love to know what David Tepper thought specifically of that
effort yesterday. I really would seven oh four five, seven
oh ninety six to ten hit us up on the
FanDuel text line Bird Dog BlackBerry, saying Frank Reich and
Dave had some great conversations too. That was my first thought.
I meant to mention that a second ago, that smoke.
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That was my first thought when I heard Dave mention
that or when I heard that question from David Newton
and Dave Canalis answering it, my first thought was, oh that,
Oh Frank Reich got asked that question too, not that
long ago, so slightly different circumstances. But yesterday was just
wildly disappointing. And every column that I've read, from Scott
Fowler and The Observer to Joe Person's Game Story Slash
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column echoes the same things that we've talked about that
fans feel right now, when is it going to end?
When are you going to go out there and look
like a professional football team? When are you going to
go out there and leave you know yourselves, fans, ownership, whoever,
feeling like you've done some things right or enough things
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right that there's something to build on, that there's something
to take from week one to week two into the
next week. Because again I can point to good things yesterday.
I thought Bryce Young made some tremendous throws yesterday.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
I really did.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
I got a text, and I expect a lot of
these today. Somebody a minute ago said Bryce Young ain't
no NFL quarterback. Somebody, bryce Bryce Young ain't no starting quarterback.
Mister sizus said, well, on certain plays he definitely looked
like one. But I'll tell you what, if you can't
protect the football, that's the surest way that your ask
gets shipped out of here before your rookie contracts up,
or to guarantee that you do not get a second
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contract with the Carolina Panthers. That stuff makes me sick.
Like I thought the offense at times was bad around him,
I thought the guy's made mistakes around him. But yesterday,
once again, Bryce compounds those mistakes. Even if he's trying
to make plays, you cannot turn the football over the
way that he did yesterday. The first interception, ball was
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on target, throwing on the move, something he's very good
at led xcel led Lee get properly. The ball was
going to be on target, There's no question about that.
But the safety was coming up and Bryce's depth of
field was not read properly and the guy steps in
bats the ball tip drill interception. Bad decision by Bryce. Okay,
on the fumble, you're trying to make a play. You've
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made a couple of plays with your legs. We all appreciated.
This is the NFL. Every single one of these linebackers
is coming at you with top speed, trying to punch
the football out. You don't even lift weights barely as
a quarterback. You're five to ten a buck eighty. Protect
the football, learn how to slide ideally. Both just don't
do that. And then there's the should have been pick
six where I'm I hated it, but Hunter Renfro was
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interfered with, he was held. That's probably where Bryce was
gonna go with the football. And then Bryce again panics
freaks out just trying to make a play like he
probably should have been on the fourth and one, you know,
in the goal line situation, and got bailed out by
a penalty, which was the proper penalty, there's no question
about it. But still Bryce Young yesterday made some great throws.
But if you're going to turn the football over like that,
if you're going to be careless with the football, then
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you can go on and sign a second contract with
somebody else, because it doesn't matter how much people might
like you or your potential. That stuff can't happen. All right, listen,
well come back, I got full phone lines already. I'm
not shocked. It's week one, it's the week to overreact.
But is it really an overreaction after what we saw yesterday.
We'll talk about it with you next Sports Radio ninety
two to seven wfn Z.
Speaker 6 (17:49):
I think he's kind of stumbled a step before. It
looked like kind of lost his footing and was going
forward already. And in those situations, we try to teach
our guys going to the ground as vulnerable defensive guys.
The same thing. When guys are going to the ground,
the ball can be vulnerable. So Bryce just has to
lock that up with two and try to shield himself
in that situation you got here.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
He was pretty open talking about how he didn't play baseball.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
He was not a natural slider.
Speaker 9 (18:15):
Is that something that you mean to work with him on?
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Maybe? Maybe, maybe maybe that's he says, mate. Yes, the
answer is yes, it is. Football.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Quarterback is the most important position on the field. You
got to keep your guy up right, you got to
keep him healthy. And we're going into year three and
just because he didn't play baseball, maybe.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Is the I don't care.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
I don't get Every single day during the summer, there
are kids at various baseball camps across the country, uncoordinated,
haven't hit puberty yet, and they're learning how to slide
somewhere on a wet outfield, or a slip and slide.
But Bryce Young cannot figure out how to slide and
get down at the end of the first half and
instead cost to football. I know he didn't mean to,
I know it wasn't his intent, but it was one
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of three turnovers on the day for him. And as
I've told a couple of listeners already who are jumping
all over him.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
And I get it.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
You know, we had the bagel guy a second ago
who said only seventy two yards passing halfway through the
fourth only scored three points against the damn Jags team
that was worse than us against the pass last year.
I thought we were passed this version of Bryce. It's
not to me again, I'll say it. I thought Bryce.
I went back and rewatch the game right before the
show today, smoking attest to this. I was sitting in
my office rewatching the game. He made some really nice
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throws yesterday. But none of it matters if you don't
take care of the football. None of it matters if
you don't take care of the football, and a part
of that is learning how to give yourself up and slide.
Like that answer may be written. Maybe, Yeah, definitely it
should be part of today's practice. I mean, pull Bryce
out of there and let Hendon Hooker get some more
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reps for about fifteen or twenty minutes, and maybe Bryce
can practice how to slide a little bit, how to
get the landing gear down in situations, because the all
alternative is he's going to continue to fumble like you
did yesterday, like he did against the Saints on Monday
Night football last year, or he's going to keep trying
that stuff and he's going to get hurt.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
What you got? What's going on? Two years ago?
Speaker 9 (20:10):
Two?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
I'm sorry, you're right. Two years ago.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
It was a Week two game at seven o'clock, first
of a doubleheader. That's when Daniel Roski said the whole
thirty six month thing after losing the game. So yeah,
that's what it was. Because that was that was also
in plus territords. You wow, I was around the same
part of field round the thirty five yard line is
when he fumbled it too.
Speaker 7 (20:27):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
When I was in high school, like my high school
baseball team, we would run, we would help our coach
run baseball camps in the summer and we would have
these little kids all week long that would come out
ages six to thirteen, and every single day we had
sliding practice. Now baseball, you know, just slide in baseball,
but just slide a little bit in football too. Send
Bryce the little kids camp for a couple of days
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and learn to slide with cleats on. Cleet's off first,
but then learn to slide with cleats off, because that
cannot continue to happen. All right, I'm going to shut
up now. Steve smith Senior coming up in eighteen minutes.
Get Smithy's thoughts on week one. I have a feeling
he's gonna tell us that, you know, maybe our expectations
were too high for this team. I was thinking slightly
under five hundred, but apparently after week one that's now
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in jeopardy. Let's take some phone calls my guy Chris Rash. Oh,
I'm excited. I haven't heard from Chris in forever. I'm
glad he's back on the phone lines. Chris, what's going on?
Speaker 4 (21:18):
Brother?
Speaker 2 (21:18):
How you been.
Speaker 7 (21:21):
Hey?
Speaker 2 (21:21):
I'll hope you guys are well, Yes, sir.
Speaker 9 (21:24):
Just like after after watching the game yesterday, like I
did not anticipate, like already losing hope and feeling like
super frustrated this early in the season, but like, basically
the whole team and ownership are on my fighting list
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as of today. Like I don't even know where to start.
Like I think Xavier log At he's basically a mascot.
The guy was a project and can't play football, And
I would love it if this team, it seems like
they at least drafted h McMillan, who seems like he's
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going to be good. But but my god, some of
the wide receivers we picked up are just embarrassing. Between
between Bryce and Dakan Alice, Like, I am starting to
believe that that the two guys are basically having a
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competition to see who the bigger BETA is because they're
they're both just pathetic. I mean, I understand that David
Tepper is so toxic that we basically have to take
candidate through no one in their right mind would higher.
But but give me a break, and then if y'ro
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like the guy could not be worse if he was
trying his best to set every negative record possible on
the defensive side of ball.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
It's awful.
Speaker 9 (23:12):
It's awful, and I mean, Blake, what what kills me
absolutely kills me? Is that. Like I've been a fan
of this team since day one when Jerry Richardson you know,
walked out and and you know, announced that Charlotte had
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in the pro franchise. I was so excited and have
full for this team since that day. And to start
the season and completely lose hope.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Yes, yes, Chris, Chris' listen, Kurt, listen, I gotta I
gotta go. But please don't be a stranger because you
your phone calls are great, and I go way too
long without hearing from you. I appreciate that very much.
He had a lot more to say right there. I
get it, but I try to give everybody two minutes
because we have a lot of phone calls to take today,
he said, a lot. The one thing I want to
jump back on that, he said, though, because I fancy
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myself somebody who tries not to overreact, be prisoner of
the moment, you know, freak out and fly off the handle.
And I have been, you know, saying, hey, XL's got
a lot of tools. I think his head's in it.
He cares. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt.
But after that sequence yesterday, the boneheaded non toe drag
and then to turn around and half ass your effort
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on a short yardage situation and the dB comes in
and makes the stop on Chewba Hubbard and Mark Schlaret
is ripping him on the sidelines. I am out on
Xavier League get until he changes some minds and hearts
around here, because that was pathetic and you're right about that.
Chris Will is up next on the phones.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Will what's going on, amen, brother?
Speaker 7 (24:48):
I was hoping to talk to Charlotte Schecters.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Man, you came to the wrong place about the Panthers.
Speaker 7 (24:54):
Yeah, all right, Well, I mean I.
Speaker 8 (24:57):
Listen, I'm not angry.
Speaker 7 (25:00):
It's just sad.
Speaker 8 (25:01):
It's sad, my friend. Like, it's just the excitement that
we had coming into this season with training camp, and
to put that product on the field is just freaking painful.
Speaker 7 (25:15):
I don't understand it.
Speaker 8 (25:16):
The play calling. I mean second and two, third and
one for just like give excel, give team.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
Throw it up in the air, jump ball.
Speaker 8 (25:27):
I would have been happy with that, like a couple
of times, as opposed to what we were doing. Are
we trying to get to your kids?
Speaker 7 (25:32):
I don't understand.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
And the other thing, can you guys stop.
Speaker 8 (25:36):
Freaking playing Dan Morgan talking about the Adam.
Speaker 7 (25:41):
Toix, Well, we wanted to do the best thing possible.
Adam came to me and said he wanted to go
to Minnesota. Like, dude, what, I'm losing my mind here.
Speaker 8 (25:51):
He's probably gonna have five touchdowns and I think it's
the Bears.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Like, you're killing me.
Speaker 9 (25:55):
Man.
Speaker 8 (25:56):
I hope to goodness they all take a look in
the mirror and get this. I mean the amount of
money that's involved here and the disappointment. There are kids
in middle school. They don't even remember. My son doesn't
even remember the Panthers being good.
Speaker 7 (26:11):
They've just been like, yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Yeah, I hear you.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Yeah, well it's not to your point, and thank you will.
It's not just the loss, it's looking miserably bad in
the loss, being out that coach on that coaching staff
on the other side of the field had never coached
a regular season game together before, and they look more
ready to play than your guys did. And I've heard
some people argue today, well, you know, I saw more
issues with execution that I did coaching. I'm sorry I disagree,
because for all this talk about culture and expectation and
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the type of player you want, finding dogs kind of
culture we're building with the kid. The culture of good
teams is showing up ready to play. The culture of
good teams is knowing that it's time to strap it on,
to be focused, to get out there and block when
you're supposed to as a wide receiver. You know, the
Austin Corbett thing is just head scratching for a veteran.
Didn't see that one quite frankly, But I mean, there
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was so much yesterday and why is there a youth
movement on the offensive side of the ball but not
the defensive side of the ball. Like Nick Scott played
one hundred percent of the snaps yesterday. Why that's seventy
one yard run by Travis Etn What happened there? May
we all watched it, we know, but it's a youth
movement on one side, not on the other. And then
to cap it off earlier today, Dave Canalis was asked
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about that and his response was, I've been pushing for
them to play more young guys on the defense that
you've been pushing for it. You're the head coach. That's
your decision. What do you mean you've been pushing for it.
That is your call as the head coach. Andre is
up next on the phones. Andre, what's going on?
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Brother?
Speaker 4 (27:38):
Hey man, how are you doing? Thank you so much
forgetting me man. Let me tell you I am after
what I saw yesterday, sir. Let me just say I
am taking any recommendations for any therapist or lobottomist there is.
I don't know where to start. Exavierly get is the
most I mean, just despicable doctor Seuss of a man
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I've ever met my life. I'm a South Carolina fan
at heart.
Speaker 8 (28:05):
I believe for them.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
I was excited to have them, knowing that we did
not draft lad McConkey who was there. Knowing that we
didn't draft Keyon Pulman, who was there. We moved up
for this caricature, This doctor Seus's character. It infuriates me.
And you know what, I was gonna say some nice
things about Canalist. It's your one. But I want you
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guys to ask yourself. One question is holding the scheme accountable?
I have been going through this for so long, where
you know what, We'll get him nuts time. Brother, Let's
just slap it up.
Speaker 8 (28:40):
Let's just be thankful for life.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
This is the NFL.
Speaker 7 (28:43):
What are we doing?
Speaker 4 (28:44):
What is this I'm not here to say boom my
jaw and walk around like death rows.
Speaker 7 (28:49):
On leaves and boobs grow on trees. This is out
what this is?
Speaker 4 (28:54):
Okay, it don't really get You need to learn to
catch because you can catch an entire You couldn't catch
a call if you were in an arctica. Do you
understand that? I am so ready to move on from
this guy, Bryce, I'm very mixed on. He had nothing
to work on or work with. The bad ones were horrended. Yeah,
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my jersey was on the floor by the second quarter.
And I will also go ahead and let you know that. Listen,
I go on for the entire hour. But with Bryce youngs,
you either are a playmaker or you're not, and he
is not. And I want to be proven so wrong.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
I cut out. I appreciate Andre, great phone call. I
appreciated Bryce Young ended last year final three games of
the season, final three games of the season, two in
one record, ten touchdowns, no turnovers.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Where'd that guy go? What happened to that guy?
Speaker 3 (29:49):
I don't need crystal clean polished in week one, but
what I need is my quarterback not to panic and
freak out and give the ball away and make stupid
mistakes and bad decisions, because that's supposed to be a
super the processing, the cerebral stuff. He did some dumb stuff,
yet he erased some pretty good football. He was the
third highest graded offensive player out there yesterday, which might
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not be saying much because overall they look like crap,
but it speaks to some great throws, some pretty good
decisions where guys didn't make place for him. But what
little bit of good will he himself built up with
some of those plays he completely erased because he was
careless with the football. And that is the one thing
you cannot be at the quarterback position, and it will
get you run out of town.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
So fast.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Let's go to Doug and Winston Salem next, Doug, what's
going on?
Speaker 7 (30:33):
Yeah? Thank you thrinking my call.
Speaker 10 (30:35):
Hope you guys are doing well today.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
I'm not thinking.
Speaker 10 (30:38):
I think you see what you see. It's a five
win team at best. That's just the way it's going
to be. I mean, Bryce, he'll probably play on his
contract code too much money involved with There's not one
team in the NFL each start for not one.
Speaker 7 (30:52):
And no not one. And I agree with you that.
Speaker 10 (30:56):
I agree with a lot of points you said yesterday,
the lack of bicicle efforts and just a whole lack
of playing yesterday. No, there's only one team that played
more poorly than the Panthers, the Dolphins, and that's probably
the next game that the Panthers are going to win.
Speaker 7 (31:12):
I looked at the schedule. I don't see it.
Speaker 10 (31:14):
I don't see them winning any more games to the
Dolphins game.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Well, I appreciate you, Doug, Thank you, Bud. I'll let
I'll let Smoke say it himself. But he seems to
know when he thinks this team wins another game. I'll
let him tell you here in just a second. The
fact that they drained the play clock down to under
three seconds on would they take sixty five offensive snaps yesterday?
I bet fifty eight of them. They took the play
clock inside of three seconds. I mean they called multiple
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timeouts to avoid delay of game penalties. Difficult to getting
lined up, Like you were in Jacksonville yesterday, You were
in Pittsburgh, you were in Arrowhead and Kansas City, you
were in Jacksonville and you couldn't get lined up. I
don't care that it's weak one smoke. When did the
Panthers win next. What do you think Sunday?
Speaker 2 (31:53):
You think they're winning an Arizona on Sunday?
Speaker 5 (31:55):
Yeah, I'll be crazy. I'm standing ten to's eep on
this one. Okay, Okay, I'm not supposed to. I'm not
going to be scared Ofler Murray. Can say hot starter
or all that stuff and that kumbayak crap. No, remember
they stopped them in twenty twenty. I'm not scared of
Kyler Murray. And apparently he apparently had something in his
system yesterday and he thinks it's pretty cool to go
on a streamers stream and talk about it in very
great detail. I'm not scared of that man. Okay, I
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know day are not scared of Bryce Young. I'm supposed
to be scared of Marvin Harrison Junior when Mike Jackson
locked him up just about eight or nine months ago. No,
the only thing I'm scared about with them is Trey
McBride and James Connor.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Okay, so you can say all you want to.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
But a lot of this also has to do with
Carolina shooting themselves in the foot, And if they didn't
shoot themselves in the foot to great detail, they would
have been in that game more so, and we wouldn't
be feeling as negative. I understand, but I just think
this is also one of those things where I don't
think this team's going to be great, But I also
think a lot of people are overreacting just because of
the previous seven to eight years.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Dave Bryce and his euro Everro need to tighten the
hell up after yesterday. That was embarrassing. That was embarrassing.
All right, we got Steve Smith coming up in six minutes.
We're taking your phone calls all throughout the show. I
assure you have a lot of college football too. But
right now we go to smoke on the headlines.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Who is smoke? Where is smoke? Where there's smoke, there's fire.
Let's go.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Some people think you're day drinking. I knew that would
be the response. All right, what else? What you got
over there?
Speaker 2 (33:14):
All right?
Speaker 5 (33:15):
Well, while we're in the worst of times, the best
of times were in Buffalo, New York. As last night
Sunday Night Football, Deep Bills came down from back from
fifteen points down in four minutes in the fourth quarter
to start our final year at high Mark Stadium with
a dramatic win.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
As Matt Prater hit the game winning field goal.
Speaker 5 (33:32):
Matt Prater just got to the team like three days
ago as they start the season one to zero.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Yeah, that happened. That happened. All right, we'll come back
and talk about it. But anything else.
Speaker 5 (33:44):
By the way, that fan who pushed DeAndre Hopkins, he
has been banned from NFL games.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
As he should be. We're adults. Keep keep your hands
to yourself. I don't care how drunk you are. I
don't care what the context is. Keep your hands to
yourself for God's sake. All right, Well, come back Steve
Smith Senior. I can't imagine how he would reacted if
that guy put his hands on him back in the day.
Steve Smith seeing your next sports radio ninety two to
seven WFNZ.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Over fifteen thousand total yards. He's gonna go the way
sixteen NFL seasons.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
If you say that's nice, not mean, last.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Five Pro Bowls and countless memories.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
When a dog gets an X ray, they've got that
Steve Smith inside their rib gage.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Steve Smith is on wfn Z, I sup Son.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Well, much like the Panthers offense yesterday. Hell, who am
I kidding? The entire team? We're malfunctioning a little bit
in the studio right now, having a difficult time connecting
with Steve Smith. We're going to try to get him
in here in just a moment, trying the circuitous way
to get him in on the show, and as soon
as we get him, we'll put him on the air
seven oh four, five, seven ninety six to ten. Hit
us up on the FanDuel text line. The FanDuel text
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line is just humming right now, and that's typically the
case on a Panther Monday. I'm so sick of these
Panther Mondays. And I know that it's easy for guys
like us to get carried away. We don't have to
play the games. We don't have to carry the burden
of the losses like the players out there do. There's
no question about that. But you know, as fans who
invest their Sunday afternoons invest a lot of money. PSL
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holders and season ticket holders in particular, you know, you
make a big investment in money and in time, and
you know emotional capital too. But it's it's more of
the same, more of the same. The last three years
of Bryce Young in openers, and that's the era we're
talking about, they've been outscored ninety two to thirty in
season openers. They've scored ten points in each one. Bryce
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Young has thrown seven touchdowns and cough the football ups.
I'm sorry, three touchdowns. It cofted up seven times in
those three openers. Now, I think you'll be the first
to remind us that, you know, we had a very
different conversation this time of year ago than we were
having ten twelve weeks later. And so it's a long season.
I'm not going anywhere, but Panthers fans is got foul,
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wrote today, and Joe Person wrote anothers they're fed up
with this stuff. You didn't look prepared for the opener,
and there are a lot of questions about that. And
our friend Steve Smith, senior Carolina Panthers legend, NFL analyst,
NFL network analyst that is, of course, is back to
give us his perspective on everything yesterday, and as always, Steve,
we appreciate you, my man. We'll start with your thirty
thousand foot view. Kind of an odd game yesterday in Jacksonville.
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It was hot, we had a seventy two minute rain delay.
Of course both teams went through that, but we know
the final score twenty six to ten. What were your
primary takeaways?
Speaker 7 (36:31):
Well, primary takeaways? You know, after rewatching the game, I
was sitting here and I'm like, you know, why is
this happening? And what was a very interesting thing that
doing a little research, I believe Shan Waldron is on
that coaching staff. Well Liam Cohne, Liam Cohen is on
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that coach is the head coach and all and the
play caller was also I believe quarterbacks coach. When Dave
can Allis was offensive coordinator in Tampa, and then when
he was offensive coordinator or quarterbacks coach or something in Seattle,
Shane Walders was there as well. So what does that
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tell me is and then the most important part, former
offensive line coach was also on a coaching staff against
the Jaguars with the Jaguars versus the Panthers. So you
have three people who know what's going on not in
the passing game. So I'm not making any excuses, I'm
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just doing my research as an anolanst. You have the
offensive coordinator, the former tight ends coach, and the former
O Liones coach. You got three people who know exactly
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what to tell the defense to throw off the protection
and then you have the seventy two minute rain delay.
Speaker 9 (38:14):
Bro.
Speaker 7 (38:15):
That is where things can get fuzzy because both teams
now have seventy two minutes to dissect, adjust and make
more additions to their game plan based off what they
just saw because of the rain delay. And again I'm
not making an excuse, but I'm just telling you. When
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I was sitting there, I'm saying, how is this happening?
And then the other parts sometimes of fans, are thinking
and let me, this is dumbing it down for Steve.
This is not to the fans. This is just for me. Right,
you're down third and eight, fourth quarter, you're down twenty
three to three. You know you've seen those the play
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charts that all these coordinators have. Where the hell is
the play for down by twenty third and eight? Where's
that play on the play chart? It don't exist. There
is no play for we getting our ass whooped by
twenty Let me get this play to get us back
in the game right now, don't happen. And so I
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think a little bit of what's going on is there's
an unrealistic expectation that us the city. You know I'm
not because I'm you know, I'm putting on my analyst hat,
the unrealistic expectation of this team. Now, all of a sudden,
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they're playing for the Super Bowl, and they got Jerry
Rice and Joe Montana and Charles Haley and Sterling Sharp
and Shannon Sharp at tight end. They got all these
potentially Hall of Famer guys on the squad. Man, I
don't know what games I'll watching. I worked the preseason games.
I'm not saying that this is I didn't expect this.
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What I'm saying is I keep using this every year
when I'm doing this show with you. September is what, Kyle,
what do I call September?
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Sloppy September?
Speaker 7 (40:22):
And what did that game look like?
Speaker 2 (40:23):
Sloppy as hell?
Speaker 3 (40:24):
Which leads me, which leads me to my next question,
because I think this is where you can really help
us out here too. Be it the you know, multiple
timeouts as the play clock was expiring, taking the play
clock down to under three seconds on probably ninety percent
of the snaps, Difficulty getting lined up, difficult to getting
the play call in. This all speaks to what you're
saying right now. How much of it was fixable, how
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much of it was concerning.
Speaker 7 (40:48):
Well every game you lose is concerning, bro. I'm gonna
tell you right now, I'm rewatching the Raymonds game. It's
fifty fifty three seconds left is forty to thirty eight. Man,
everything it can be fixable, And that's a problem until
the results. Until the results are different and you actually
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fix the issues. You know, we can sit here the
Monday morning quarterback or Monday afternoon general manager, whatever you
know you want to say. Man, the unfortunate part is
they lost. But we lost to a team that, for
whatever reason, everybody thought that it was a shoe in
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and that all our you know, we're gonna run all
over them, all our guys was gonna maulshm and And
I'm not sure what games that was going on, because
it damn sure didn't go on in preseason. So I'm
not sure how these dudes just gonna roll out of
bed all of a sudden become Superman, with some of
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them looking like damn Clark, Kitt and Robbin with no superpower.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
Well, then I will give you something that's very prominent
on my text line today and let you respond to that.
We have a lot of people saying, hey, remember a
couple of weeks ago when Dave pulled the starters in
Houston and said they didn't earn more reps out there,
you know, it sure looked like they could have used them.
There's a whole lot of that today, Steve, that all
these other teams and quarterbacks are playing more in the preseason,
why not the Panthers.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
What's your reaction to that, Well, there.
Speaker 7 (42:21):
Have been some quarterbacks who played in the preseason. Man,
Russell Wilson, did he play in a preseason I believe so,
I can't tell me did because he looked like he
didn't see a snap in preseason. Rus Russ was Dust
yesterday and I was watching, and I got a conspiracy
theory about that too. Yes, please, yeah, I think you know,
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you remember you heard that they had some play set
for Jackson Dark to play, right yep. I think they
never gave him any plays because if that young man
would have sniffed sniffed a possible positive pass play, they
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be looking for Jackchen Dart to be played playing right now.
Speaker 2 (43:12):
They already want that. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (43:15):
So as far as Panthers fans, I mean, you have
to really understand in a rebuild, you gotta be okay
and understanding a rebuild. It's not gonna always look pretty.
And I hate to say it. You know what they say,
you gotta it gets worse before it gets better.
Speaker 3 (43:38):
Steve, let me ask you about something that Mark Schlaret
said on the broadcast yesterday, and as a former wide receiver,
I'd love your thoughts on it.
Speaker 7 (43:45):
I am my form of wide receiver because you know,
depending on what I say, I get this crazy.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
Well, last I checked the tape. You were.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
Late in the first HALFIC say your league get makes
the catch, should have dragged his toe routine play, doesn't
do it, that's bad enough, and then wiffs on a
block with poor effort. I think the next play two
plays later. Mark Salairas just hammered him on the broadcast
for that lack of effort. As a former wide receiver
with your mentality, how much does that bother you?
Speaker 7 (44:11):
Ah? It doesn't bother me one bit.
Speaker 8 (44:14):
Why is that?
Speaker 7 (44:16):
Because I don't play football anymore. I get I deal
with paper cuts.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
How much did that bother his position?
Speaker 7 (44:21):
Coach?
Speaker 4 (44:23):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (44:23):
That's I know his position coach own his own his
behind big time. Yeah right, that's gonna be talked about.
But again, he's a young player, so he looked like
a deer headlights. If you look at his eyes, you
look at he played some of the routine things that
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he messed up, and that's a young man just trying
to make it. That's a young squad. That's a young
wide receiver squad. You let go of Adam Thielen to
make room for your young guys to grow. Growing PA
means are what you're experiencing and visualized and visually seen
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right now because Hunter Renfrow just got there, he would
let go blah blah blah. You think just just throwing
it out there. You think these young guys actually want
to hear from older guys because we're all haters and
we want what they have, and so it becomes problematic
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and difficult to communicate with the wall.
Speaker 3 (45:34):
How disappointed were you? I mean, listen, you know what
I mean by this too.
Speaker 7 (45:37):
I know you don't tell I am not disappointed. I'm
sitting in my house.
Speaker 2 (45:43):
Listen.
Speaker 3 (45:44):
I heard the question because I know you don't have
any emotional attachment. I get that, but as somebody who
watches the film and knows what it should look like.
I watched Bryce yesterday and I saw plenty of good
throws but I saw it all erased by carelessness with
the football. How concerning is that if you're a head coach, I.
Speaker 7 (46:00):
Mean, you have to address those issues because that is
the individual who deals with the ball every single time.
So you have to address that. But you also got
to understand when the rains are pours. So that's gonna happen, right,
that's part of I mean, there's a number of games
that happened this last night or Sunday that it was
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depending on who you who you pull their complaining and
we can't do nothing right here, here's what you have
to understand, pointing out Leaguet, pointing out Bryce. So just
flow with me real quick. So I'm gonna open the
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sun roof of my car and it's raining, and yet
the person is pouring and the person in the back
seat is complaining that their seat is wet. It's water
all up in the car.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
Yeah, everything's bad.
Speaker 7 (47:05):
Everything bad. Did you just use a g A ruin?
Speaker 2 (47:12):
What do you want me to say?
Speaker 7 (47:14):
Wha ruin? How about you sitting? What's your draws though
in a wet seat?
Speaker 2 (47:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (47:24):
I ain't even talking about socks being wet. It feels
like you tinkled on yourself. You're talking about you're talking
about you. You don't see the forest through the trees though.
Speaker 3 (47:37):
All right, well, listen, when you get through all that film,
hit me up and let me know if you find
some good stuff, because we sure could use some good.
Speaker 2 (47:42):
News around your brother.
Speaker 7 (47:43):
Listen, there is a lot of good things. That's how
they got the points that they got.
Speaker 3 (47:49):
Well, listen, I appreciate you as always. We'll talk to
you next Monday.
Speaker 7 (47:52):
Appreciate.
Speaker 3 (47:53):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
All right, folks, let's get right to it.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
I can't even sit down in studio and the phones
are ringing. We got Panthers fans that want to talk,
and i'd imagine Panthers fans that want to scream and shout,
So let's get right to it. The Carolina Panthers went
down to Jacksonville yesterday and looked flat out awful. No
sugarcoating anything about this. When you can't polish this turd.
You lost to Liam Cohen, a rookie head coach with
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a staff literally working their first regular season game together,
and they outclassed you start to finish. That's embarrassing on
every level. This Panthers team looks sloppy, unprepared, overwhelmed and
well defensively, same tired script right over two hundred yards
rushing aloud.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Again.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
That's seven straight games of getting gashed for two hundred
plus yards, and the ninth time already under Dave Canalis,
who coached his eighteenth game yesterday, and here's the kicker,
per Mike Kay of the Charlotte Observer, is euro Everro
has now been the Panthers defensive coordinator for thirty five
total games, and in twenty six of them, as defense
has given up one hundred and twenty yards on the ground.
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That's not a hiccup, that's an identity. And then you
look at Bryce Young multiple turnovers of fumble when all
he had to do was slide. Brother, I don't care
if you didn't play baseball. How at no point in
the first two plus years of this kid's tenure has
someone out there said, take your cleats off, we're going
to practice sliding. After practice, you're five to ten a
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buck eighty and you're stumbling and falling into two hundred
and forty pound linebackers looking to punch the football out
and you can't even be bothered to cover the football
up with both arms.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Pathetic.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
And then on fourth and fourth down, it throws the
all the way in the end zone on fourth down,
gives nobody a chance to make a play. That's not
just a mistake, that's football malpractice. But the real indictment.
The offense looked like it had no clue how to
operate at times in this game, multiple timeouts just to
avoid delay of game penalties, to play clock winding down
to under three seconds before nearly every snap, no tempo,
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no urgency, no attempt to play fast or dictate anything
for much of the game until the fourth quarter, really
when the game was already over. That's on Bryce. That's
on the offensive line at times, and it's certainly on
the coaching staff. And oh yeah, Xavier League Get certainly
didn't help himself either. I'll say it right now to
start this show today. I am out on Xavier League
Get until proven otherwise you might think that's an overreaction.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
It's not.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Year two wide out fails to get his feet down
on a routine sideline catch after Bryce had shot one
up the seam to JT.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Sanders.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Looked like they had a little bit of momentum, right,
and then here comes Excel on a routine sideline catch
that should have been a chunk play, taking him down
inside the third yard line, helping to set them up
to potentially score. And then after failing the toe drag
somehow immediately blows a block on a short yardage play.
Mark schlaira the color analyst on the broadcast yesterday ripped
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him justifiably for poor effort, and he deserved it. That's
the kind of sequence that gets you buried in a
hurry with your own fans, the ones that aren't already
out on you to begin with. And then, of course
yesterday Dave Canalis stepping up to the podium and admitting
he's got to look at himself and his staff to
figure out why this team wasn't prepared well. You got
out coached by a group that had never worked a
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regular season game together.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
It's a brutal look.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
They weren't awesome on the other side, but they were
certainly better than you.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Now.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Sure, it's only week one, there's a long way to go,
but make no mistake, the clock is already ticking, Bryce,
Young Dave Canalis. The clock is ticking. No more freebies,
no more mulligans. Because in the David Tepper era, this
organization is now thirty six and eighty one. They lose
season openers, and typically lose them ugly. Yesterday from a
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scoreboard standpoint, wasn't as bad as it could have been,
especially given that a pick six was wiped off the board.
But everything about it was ugly. The Panthers don't just lose,
they lose the exact same way over and over again.
It seems like in these scenarios, and unless this staff,
in this quarterback change that script in a hurry, Panthers
fans are in for another miserable ride in twenty twenty five.
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Seven oh four five seven oh ninety six ten. Panthers fans,
I know you've got thoughts after watching that train wreck
down in du Vault yesterday. If you feel inclined to
light this team up today, phone lines open seven oh
four five seven oh ninety six ten, or hit us
up on the FanDuel text line same number.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Let's hear it.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
I know a lot of you are chomping at the
bit to let us know how you feel about this game.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
It was. It was awful.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Yesterday was And the worst part is, you know, they
did show some glimpses offensively. They did make a couple
of plays. The offense did show a little bit of
competency at times, but it was the lack of consistency,
the bone headed plays. The defense. Again, some of the
things they were doing defensively just took us right back
to twenty twenty five, and this was the big fear
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for a lot of Panthers fans and especially those who've
been beating the drum that this team still sucks, there's
still no good this defense isn't going to be much better,
so on and so forth. After one game, we all
know that we're not supposed to overreact. But when it
looks like that again, when once again you come in
off and off season, well, actually, for the first time,
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you're coming out of an off season where your quarterback
had the same playbook, had the same coach, had time
to build some chemistry with his wide receivers, so on
and so forth. You drafted the first rounder in ted
Ro McMillan, you brought back the entire offensive line, and yes,
there were some instances out there where it was a
bit more execution than coaching or you know, even preparedness.
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But I've heard so much this offseason about culture. We
want our kind of guys. We want dogs, We want
dudes that you know, they love football, they live and
breathe football. We want guys to fit our culture what
we think it should be. Well, a big part of culture,
a big part of culture, if not the biggest part
of culture is your guys being ready to play, and
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that football team, outside of a couple of examples, or
rather exceptions, yesterday, did not look ready to play.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Shout out j C.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Horn.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
That guy had a good day.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Of course, the highlight interception Brian Thomas certainly didn't get
loose a ton yesterday. That's a credit to JC Horn
as well, But he was one of about three or
four guys that I mean that can be excluded from
the ripping that I'm sure the fans are going to
deliver the team today here on WFNZ and quite frankly
have been seven oh four five, seven ninety six to ten.
Hit us up on the FanDuel text line. I went
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to bed early last night. I had the worst football
weekend of all time. I came out of Saturday and
Sunday smoke. I don't need any pity party or we
don't even need to focus on my Saturday just yet.
But like I was already in a bad mood going
into Sunday, I was hoping this team could look competent
on the road, but instead.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
This is what we got. How are you feeling today? Perturbed?
Speaker 5 (07:02):
And you know, I don't think pissed is the right
way to go about it, but just really perturbed at
the execution. Just how flat this team came across throughout
the whole entire game, on both sides of the football,
specifically offense. It's it's one thing because I feel like
this defense is going to be working to progress this year,
just because you still have so many new faces and
you're not going to go from worse to first. You're
likely going to go best case scenario, worse to the
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middle of the pack. But the fact that you still
were able to give up that many rushing yards, you know,
the fact that the offense really just shot themselves in
the flat. I mean you go back and look at
the total yardage and look at how they were moving
the ball down the field. They were moving the ball
a little bits too minute drill that would have been
at very least three points. That gets you to a
twenty six thirteen game. In the end game, you had
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the fourth and goal. If you take advantage of it
or just get one yard, that would have been six
points at least. That makes it twenty six nineteen, twenty
six to twenty with the extra point, So now you're
within a one score game. It's just a lot of
stupid mistakes and errors that really cost them, and the
preparedness just really didn't seemed like it was ever ever there,
and the players didn't seem like they're in synct. The
amount of bad snaps that Austin Corbett had the Bryce
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Young were substantial, and it just everything. It was like
there was a haze over this offense throughout the whole
entire day and for worse.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
The team. It's like a mental block.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
It's like a mental you can almost see it happening
on the field again yesterday when things go poorly. There
is this very real sense to me of watching this
team like, oh, here we go again right now. I
don't know what you call it, the chuck KNOAWB block
yips or the I don't know what it is, but
it's the quarterback too. When things go wrong, it's like
they have to cascade. It has to turn into an avalanche.
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It just yesterday again. I don't expect you to be perfect,
but you've got a first time head coach on the
other side of the field whose offense looked ready to play.
They looked like the things that they did made a
lot more sense than what Carolina did. And it's not
always as cut and dry as they aren't ready to play,
or this guy sucks, you know, things of that nature.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Austin Corbett. I did not see that coming yesterday.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
I think, you know, Bryce certainly backed away from because
it seemed like during the game he was pretty frustrated
with Austin Corbett.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
I know we all were.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
I'm sure Austin Corbett was also frustrated with himself, but
it seemed to me like Bryce was pretty frustrated, and
then as a leader, really should kind of walked it
back in the postgame, like I played great, it's fine,
we just got to figure this out. So you don't
want to throw each under the bus, each other under
the bus. You don't want to see that kind of stuff.
But the Corbett thing, just the early snaps not being
on the same page. Obviously, it throws Bryce's footwork off.
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And we know that so much of what they do offensively,
what Dave Canalis designs offensively, is tied directly into Bryce
Young's footwork, and so when you have these sudden snaps,
it throws everything off. And I know I'm bouncing all
over the place here, but like it seemed at times
like they wanted to run the football. But then you
get fourth and one, you know, down there inside the
ten yard line, and yeah, you've run it twice unsuccessfully.
But then on fourth and one you go with an
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empty set and then Bryce compounds it again, as he
did two or three times yesterday, by throwing it out
of the back of the end zone instead of giving
somebody a chance to make a play. I know it's
easy for me to sit up here and say run
the ball, run the ball, run the ball. But if
you're going to talk about that being your identity, this
is the culture of who we are. This is what
we're gonna be. We're gonna run the ball. We added
one thousand yard back, we drafted Trevory t In. This
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is who we want to be. Well, for no other
reason than principal, line up and run it again. As
far as I'm concerned, line up. I realize you want
to let your quarterback make plays. But if that's who
you want to be, then do that be that team?
Or are you admitting that you're not capable of it,
or maybe you know you can't run off the left
side yesterday because Josh Nyman was pretty bad. Three of
the five offensive lineman yesterday had really good grades. Taylor Moteen,
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Robert Hunt, Damien Lewis all had good days. They did
Austin Corbett and yosh Niman, though we're terrible. Absolutely. I
think Corbett's pass blocking grade was like a twenty seven.
I'm pretty sure Nyman was like thirty if I'm not mistaken.
Somewhere in that neighborhood.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
Yeah, hey, hey, hey, Ichy sucks though he's the worst
thing ever, right, No, no, no, these people need to
be silent.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
They need to be humbled by that too.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
There's been a lot of people that have been going
after Ichy over the last few years, and I get it.
Twenty twenty three was bad. Shut your trap. Okay, he
only had two bad games last year. There's a reason
why they're thinking about paying him a pretty good penny
in the coming weeks. Okay, Ikey, while never possibly being
elite at pass blocking, I think is good. He's good
and at the very worst, if you have a good
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left tackle at at your left tackle spot for ten years,
that's really good.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Just shut up.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Give me for give me fifteen if you would please.
And I think we have two number fifteens on our
cut sheet today on a It's okay, give me the
first one, because I'm always interested in what the head
coach has to say directly after a game like that,
but especially so on Monday, right the day after, when
they're once they've watched the tape, because obviously in the
postgame press conference, you know, they haven't had a chance.
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He hasn't had a chance to watch the tape. Today
he has, and Dave Canalis had an interesting press conference
earlier this afternoon. Here he is with his opening statement
on what he saw when he watched the tape.
Speaker 6 (12:09):
You know, really uh, you know, just a humbling game.
Just to kind of look at where we're at right now.
Had a chance to talk to the team and I said, look,
let's take a picture of this. Just look at let's
look right at it, you know, and look at the
different areas that we need to improve. And the things
that we're looking at are fundamental things that we work on,
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that we're counting on. And I think the more that
we can make the progress tangible for them, something that
they can see and say, Okay, well if we work
on this, we practice this, this will lead you know,
to success, This will lead to improvement and what we're doing.
That's that's the way we try to do it on Mondays.
And so we looked at the clips. You know, we
looked at the turnovers, we looked at the mistackles, the
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fundamental parts of it, you know, looked at the the
processes at the you know, against some pretty pretty challenging looks,
some pretty challenging pressure looks that we can certainly sort
out that we have done in the past, and to
make sure that we're on the same page. So you know,
we just watched it together as a team, you know,
started with special teams clips and went to offense, went
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to defense, and said, let's look at this and let's
take a step forward, and we know what we're working
on going into this week.
Speaker 7 (13:22):
All right.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
I thought Dave was much more reflective today, as again
you would expect after watching the tape, and you know,
being able to figure out what happened in certain instances,
what went right, what went wrong, how they can fix it,
whose fault it was, so on and so forth. Also
interesting today. And I'm glad whoever it was asked this,
I forgot who asked the question, but I was watching
it live when they did, so I'm sorry that I
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can't give this out. But Dave was asked if he
had any conversations with Dave Tepper after that game?
Speaker 8 (13:49):
What did your honor say about how did he feel
about the performance?
Speaker 2 (13:53):
And he said, you didn't like the team was out there?
Speaker 7 (13:55):
What did he say to your affors?
Speaker 2 (13:56):
We had some great conversations.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
We had some great conversations. We had some I bet
you did, I bet you did. How listen, I don't
think he's in danger being fired tomorrow or next week
or the week after. I have found it interesting though,
that you know Vegas continues. The odds makers continue to
include Dave Canalis in the top five odds of the
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first coach to be fired in twenty twenty five, even
though he's just going into year two. But I would
love to know what David Tepper thought specifically of that
effort yesterday. I really would seven oh four five, seven
oh ninety six to ten hit us up on the
FanDuel text line Bird Dog BlackBerry, saying Frank Reich and
Dave had some great conversations too. That was my first thought.
I meant to mention that a second ago, that smoke.
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That was my first thought when I heard Dave mention
that or when I heard that question from David Newton
and Dave Canalis answering it, my first thought was, oh that,
Oh Frank Reich got asked that question too, not that
long ago, so slightly different circumstances. But yesterday was just
wildly disappointing. And every column that I've read, from Scott
Fowler and The Observer to Joe Person's Game Story Slash
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column echoes the same things that we've talked about that
fans feel right now, when is it going to end?
When are you going to go out there and look
like a professional football team? When are you going to
go out there and leave you know yourselves, fans, ownership, whoever,
feeling like you've done some things right or enough things
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right that there's something to build on, that there's something
to take from week one to week two into the
next week. Because again I can point to good things yesterday.
I thought Bryce Young made some tremendous throws yesterday.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
I really did.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
I got a text, and I expect a lot of
these today. Somebody a minute ago said Bryce Young ain't
no NFL quarterback. Somebody, bryce Bryce Young ain't no starting quarterback.
Mister sizus said, well, on certain plays he definitely looked
like one. But I'll tell you what, if you can't
protect the football, that's the surest way that your ask
gets shipped out of here before your rookie contracts up,
or to guarantee that you do not get a second
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contract with the Carolina Panthers. That stuff makes me sick.
Like I thought the offense at times was bad around him,
I thought the guy's made mistakes around him. But yesterday,
once again, Bryce compounds those mistakes. Even if he's trying
to make plays, you cannot turn the football over the
way that he did yesterday. The first interception, ball was
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on target, throwing on the move, something he's very good
at led xcel led Lee get properly. The ball was
going to be on target, There's no question about that.
But the safety was coming up and Bryce's depth of
field was not read properly and the guy steps in
bats the ball tip drill interception. Bad decision by Bryce. Okay,
on the fumble, you're trying to make a play. You've
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made a couple of plays with your legs. We all appreciated.
This is the NFL. Every single one of these linebackers
is coming at you with top speed, trying to punch
the football out. You don't even lift weights barely as
a quarterback. You're five to ten a buck eighty. Protect
the football, learn how to slide ideally. Both just don't
do that. And then there's the should have been pick
six where I'm I hated it, but Hunter Renfro was
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interfered with, he was held. That's probably where Bryce was
gonna go with the football. And then Bryce again panics
freaks out just trying to make a play like he
probably should have been on the fourth and one, you know,
in the goal line situation, and got bailed out by
a penalty, which was the proper penalty, there's no question
about it. But still Bryce Young yesterday made some great throws.
But if you're going to turn the football over like that,
if you're going to be careless with the football, then
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you can go on and sign a second contract with
somebody else, because it doesn't matter how much people might
like you or your potential. That stuff can't happen. All right, listen,
well come back, I got full phone lines already. I'm
not shocked. It's week one, it's the week to overreact.
But is it really an overreaction after what we saw yesterday.
We'll talk about it with you next Sports Radio ninety
two to seven wfn Z.
Speaker 6 (17:49):
I think he's kind of stumbled a step before. It
looked like kind of lost his footing and was going
forward already. And in those situations, we try to teach
our guys going to the ground as vulnerable defensive guys.
The same thing. When guys are going to the ground,
the ball can be vulnerable. So Bryce just has to
lock that up with two and try to shield himself
in that situation you got here.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
He was pretty open talking about how he didn't play baseball.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
He was not a natural slider.
Speaker 9 (18:15):
Is that something that you mean to work with him on?
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Maybe? Maybe, maybe maybe that's he says, mate. Yes, the
answer is yes, it is. Football.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Quarterback is the most important position on the field. You
got to keep your guy up right, you got to
keep him healthy. And we're going into year three and
just because he didn't play baseball, maybe.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Is the I don't care.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
I don't get Every single day during the summer, there
are kids at various baseball camps across the country, uncoordinated,
haven't hit puberty yet, and they're learning how to slide
somewhere on a wet outfield, or a slip and slide.
But Bryce Young cannot figure out how to slide and
get down at the end of the first half and
instead cost to football. I know he didn't mean to,
I know it wasn't his intent, but it was one
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of three turnovers on the day for him. And as
I've told a couple of listeners already who are jumping
all over him.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
And I get it.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
You know, we had the bagel guy a second ago
who said only seventy two yards passing halfway through the
fourth only scored three points against the damn Jags team
that was worse than us against the pass last year.
I thought we were passed this version of Bryce. It's
not to me again, I'll say it. I thought Bryce.
I went back and rewatch the game right before the
show today, smoking attest to this. I was sitting in
my office rewatching the game. He made some really nice
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throws yesterday. But none of it matters if you don't
take care of the football. None of it matters if
you don't take care of the football, and a part
of that is learning how to give yourself up and slide.
Like that answer may be written. Maybe, Yeah, definitely it
should be part of today's practice. I mean, pull Bryce
out of there and let Hendon Hooker get some more
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reps for about fifteen or twenty minutes, and maybe Bryce
can practice how to slide a little bit, how to
get the landing gear down in situations, because the all
alternative is he's going to continue to fumble like you
did yesterday, like he did against the Saints on Monday
Night football last year, or he's going to keep trying
that stuff and he's going to get hurt.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
What you got? What's going on? Two years ago?
Speaker 9 (20:10):
Two?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
I'm sorry, you're right. Two years ago.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
It was a Week two game at seven o'clock, first
of a doubleheader. That's when Daniel Roski said the whole
thirty six month thing after losing the game. So yeah,
that's what it was. Because that was that was also
in plus territords. You wow, I was around the same
part of field round the thirty five yard line is
when he fumbled it too.
Speaker 7 (20:27):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
When I was in high school, like my high school
baseball team, we would run, we would help our coach
run baseball camps in the summer and we would have
these little kids all week long that would come out
ages six to thirteen, and every single day we had
sliding practice. Now baseball, you know, just slide in baseball,
but just slide a little bit in football too. Send
Bryce the little kids camp for a couple of days
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and learn to slide with cleats on. Cleet's off first,
but then learn to slide with cleats off, because that
cannot continue to happen. All right, I'm going to shut
up now. Steve smith Senior coming up in eighteen minutes.
Get Smithy's thoughts on week one. I have a feeling
he's gonna tell us that, you know, maybe our expectations
were too high for this team. I was thinking slightly
under five hundred, but apparently after week one that's now
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in jeopardy. Let's take some phone calls my guy Chris Rash. Oh,
I'm excited. I haven't heard from Chris in forever. I'm
glad he's back on the phone lines. Chris, what's going on?
Speaker 4 (21:18):
Brother?
Speaker 2 (21:18):
How you been.
Speaker 7 (21:21):
Hey?
Speaker 2 (21:21):
I'll hope you guys are well, Yes, sir.
Speaker 9 (21:24):
Just like after after watching the game yesterday, like I
did not anticipate, like already losing hope and feeling like
super frustrated this early in the season, but like, basically
the whole team and ownership are on my fighting list
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as of today. Like I don't even know where to start.
Like I think Xavier log At he's basically a mascot.
The guy was a project and can't play football, And
I would love it if this team, it seems like
they at least drafted h McMillan, who seems like he's
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going to be good. But but my god, some of
the wide receivers we picked up are just embarrassing. Between
between Bryce and Dakan Alice, Like, I am starting to
believe that that the two guys are basically having a
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competition to see who the bigger BETA is because they're
they're both just pathetic. I mean, I understand that David
Tepper is so toxic that we basically have to take
candidate through no one in their right mind would higher.
But but give me a break, and then if y'ro
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like the guy could not be worse if he was
trying his best to set every negative record possible on
the defensive side of ball.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
It's awful.
Speaker 9 (23:12):
It's awful, and I mean, Blake, what what kills me
absolutely kills me? Is that. Like I've been a fan
of this team since day one when Jerry Richardson you know,
walked out and and you know, announced that Charlotte had
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in the pro franchise. I was so excited and have
full for this team since that day. And to start
the season and completely lose hope.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Yes, yes, Chris, Chris' listen, Kurt, listen, I gotta I
gotta go. But please don't be a stranger because you
your phone calls are great, and I go way too
long without hearing from you. I appreciate that very much.
He had a lot more to say right there. I
get it, but I try to give everybody two minutes
because we have a lot of phone calls to take today,
he said, a lot. The one thing I want to
jump back on that, he said, though, because I fancy
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myself somebody who tries not to overreact, be prisoner of
the moment, you know, freak out and fly off the handle.
And I have been, you know, saying, hey, XL's got
a lot of tools. I think his head's in it.
He cares. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt.
But after that sequence yesterday, the boneheaded non toe drag
and then to turn around and half ass your effort
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on a short yardage situation and the dB comes in
and makes the stop on Chewba Hubbard and Mark Schlaret
is ripping him on the sidelines. I am out on
Xavier League get until he changes some minds and hearts
around here, because that was pathetic and you're right about that.
Chris Will is up next on the phones.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Will what's going on, amen, brother?
Speaker 7 (24:48):
I was hoping to talk to Charlotte Schecters.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Man, you came to the wrong place about the Panthers.
Speaker 7 (24:54):
Yeah, all right, Well, I mean I.
Speaker 8 (24:57):
Listen, I'm not angry.
Speaker 7 (25:00):
It's just sad.
Speaker 8 (25:01):
It's sad, my friend. Like, it's just the excitement that
we had coming into this season with training camp, and
to put that product on the field is just freaking painful.
Speaker 7 (25:15):
I don't understand it.
Speaker 8 (25:16):
The play calling. I mean second and two, third and
one for just like give excel, give team.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
Throw it up in the air, jump ball.
Speaker 8 (25:27):
I would have been happy with that, like a couple
of times, as opposed to what we were doing. Are
we trying to get to your kids?
Speaker 7 (25:32):
I don't understand.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
And the other thing, can you guys stop.
Speaker 8 (25:36):
Freaking playing Dan Morgan talking about the Adam.
Speaker 7 (25:41):
Toix, Well, we wanted to do the best thing possible.
Adam came to me and said he wanted to go
to Minnesota. Like, dude, what, I'm losing my mind here.
Speaker 8 (25:51):
He's probably gonna have five touchdowns and I think it's
the Bears.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Like, you're killing me.
Speaker 9 (25:55):
Man.
Speaker 8 (25:56):
I hope to goodness they all take a look in
the mirror and get this. I mean the amount of
money that's involved here and the disappointment. There are kids
in middle school. They don't even remember. My son doesn't
even remember the Panthers being good.
Speaker 7 (26:11):
They've just been like, yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Yeah, I hear you.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Yeah, well it's not to your point, and thank you will.
It's not just the loss, it's looking miserably bad in
the loss, being out that coach on that coaching staff
on the other side of the field had never coached
a regular season game together before, and they look more
ready to play than your guys did. And I've heard
some people argue today, well, you know, I saw more
issues with execution that I did coaching. I'm sorry I disagree,
because for all this talk about culture and expectation and
(26:40):
the type of player you want, finding dogs kind of
culture we're building with the kid. The culture of good
teams is showing up ready to play. The culture of
good teams is knowing that it's time to strap it on,
to be focused, to get out there and block when
you're supposed to as a wide receiver. You know, the
Austin Corbett thing is just head scratching for a veteran.
Didn't see that one quite frankly, But I mean, there
(27:02):
was so much yesterday and why is there a youth
movement on the offensive side of the ball but not
the defensive side of the ball. Like Nick Scott played
one hundred percent of the snaps yesterday. Why that's seventy
one yard run by Travis Etn What happened there? May
we all watched it, we know, but it's a youth
movement on one side, not on the other. And then
to cap it off earlier today, Dave Canalis was asked
(27:22):
about that and his response was, I've been pushing for
them to play more young guys on the defense that
you've been pushing for it. You're the head coach. That's
your decision. What do you mean you've been pushing for it.
That is your call as the head coach. Andre is
up next on the phones. Andre, what's going on?
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Brother?
Speaker 4 (27:38):
Hey man, how are you doing? Thank you so much
forgetting me man. Let me tell you I am after
what I saw yesterday, sir. Let me just say I
am taking any recommendations for any therapist or lobottomist there is.
I don't know where to start. Exavierly get is the
most I mean, just despicable doctor Seuss of a man
(28:01):
I've ever met my life. I'm a South Carolina fan
at heart.
Speaker 8 (28:05):
I believe for them.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
I was excited to have them, knowing that we did
not draft lad McConkey who was there. Knowing that we
didn't draft Keyon Pulman, who was there. We moved up
for this caricature, This doctor Seus's character. It infuriates me.
And you know what, I was gonna say some nice
things about Canalist. It's your one. But I want you
(28:28):
guys to ask yourself. One question is holding the scheme accountable?
I have been going through this for so long, where
you know what, We'll get him nuts time. Brother, Let's
just slap it up.
Speaker 8 (28:40):
Let's just be thankful for life.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
This is the NFL.
Speaker 7 (28:43):
What are we doing?
Speaker 4 (28:44):
What is this I'm not here to say boom my
jaw and walk around like death rows.
Speaker 7 (28:49):
On leaves and boobs grow on trees. This is out
what this is?
Speaker 4 (28:54):
Okay, it don't really get You need to learn to
catch because you can catch an entire You couldn't catch
a call if you were in an arctica. Do you
understand that? I am so ready to move on from
this guy, Bryce, I'm very mixed on. He had nothing
to work on or work with. The bad ones were horrended. Yeah,
(29:16):
my jersey was on the floor by the second quarter.
And I will also go ahead and let you know that. Listen,
I go on for the entire hour. But with Bryce youngs,
you either are a playmaker or you're not, and he
is not. And I want to be proven so wrong.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
I cut out. I appreciate Andre, great phone call. I
appreciated Bryce Young ended last year final three games of
the season, final three games of the season, two in
one record, ten touchdowns, no turnovers.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Where'd that guy go? What happened to that guy?
Speaker 3 (29:49):
I don't need crystal clean polished in week one, but
what I need is my quarterback not to panic and
freak out and give the ball away and make stupid
mistakes and bad decisions, because that's supposed to be a
super the processing, the cerebral stuff. He did some dumb stuff,
yet he erased some pretty good football. He was the
third highest graded offensive player out there yesterday, which might
(30:10):
not be saying much because overall they look like crap,
but it speaks to some great throws, some pretty good
decisions where guys didn't make place for him. But what
little bit of good will he himself built up with
some of those plays he completely erased because he was
careless with the football. And that is the one thing
you cannot be at the quarterback position, and it will
get you run out of town.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
So fast.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Let's go to Doug and Winston Salem next, Doug, what's
going on?
Speaker 7 (30:33):
Yeah? Thank you thrinking my call.
Speaker 10 (30:35):
Hope you guys are doing well today.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
I'm not thinking.
Speaker 10 (30:38):
I think you see what you see. It's a five
win team at best. That's just the way it's going
to be. I mean, Bryce, he'll probably play on his
contract code too much money involved with There's not one
team in the NFL each start for not one.
Speaker 7 (30:52):
And no not one. And I agree with you that.
Speaker 10 (30:56):
I agree with a lot of points you said yesterday,
the lack of bicicle efforts and just a whole lack
of playing yesterday. No, there's only one team that played
more poorly than the Panthers, the Dolphins, and that's probably
the next game that the Panthers are going to win.
Speaker 7 (31:12):
I looked at the schedule. I don't see it.
Speaker 10 (31:14):
I don't see them winning any more games to the
Dolphins game.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Well, I appreciate you, Doug, Thank you, Bud. I'll let
I'll let Smoke say it himself. But he seems to
know when he thinks this team wins another game. I'll
let him tell you here in just a second. The
fact that they drained the play clock down to under
three seconds on would they take sixty five offensive snaps yesterday?
I bet fifty eight of them. They took the play
clock inside of three seconds. I mean they called multiple
(31:39):
timeouts to avoid delay of game penalties. Difficult to getting
lined up, Like you were in Jacksonville yesterday, You were
in Pittsburgh, you were in Arrowhead and Kansas City, you
were in Jacksonville and you couldn't get lined up. I
don't care that it's weak one smoke. When did the
Panthers win next. What do you think Sunday?
Speaker 2 (31:53):
You think they're winning an Arizona on Sunday?
Speaker 5 (31:55):
Yeah, I'll be crazy. I'm standing ten to's eep on
this one. Okay, Okay, I'm not supposed to. I'm not
going to be scared Ofler Murray. Can say hot starter
or all that stuff and that kumbayak crap. No, remember
they stopped them in twenty twenty. I'm not scared of
Kyler Murray. And apparently he apparently had something in his
system yesterday and he thinks it's pretty cool to go
on a streamers stream and talk about it in very
great detail. I'm not scared of that man. Okay, I
(32:18):
know day are not scared of Bryce Young. I'm supposed
to be scared of Marvin Harrison Junior when Mike Jackson
locked him up just about eight or nine months ago. No,
the only thing I'm scared about with them is Trey
McBride and James Connor.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Okay, so you can say all you want to.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
But a lot of this also has to do with
Carolina shooting themselves in the foot, And if they didn't
shoot themselves in the foot to great detail, they would
have been in that game more so, and we wouldn't
be feeling as negative. I understand, but I just think
this is also one of those things where I don't
think this team's going to be great, But I also
think a lot of people are overreacting just because of
the previous seven to eight years.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Dave Bryce and his euro Everro need to tighten the
hell up after yesterday. That was embarrassing. That was embarrassing.
All right, we got Steve Smith coming up in six minutes.
We're taking your phone calls all throughout the show. I
assure you have a lot of college football too. But
right now we go to smoke on the headlines.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Who is smoke? Where is smoke? Where there's smoke, there's fire.
Let's go.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Some people think you're day drinking. I knew that would
be the response. All right, what else? What you got
over there?
Speaker 2 (33:14):
All right?
Speaker 5 (33:15):
Well, while we're in the worst of times, the best
of times were in Buffalo, New York. As last night
Sunday Night Football, Deep Bills came down from back from
fifteen points down in four minutes in the fourth quarter
to start our final year at high Mark Stadium with
a dramatic win.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
As Matt Prater hit the game winning field goal.
Speaker 5 (33:32):
Matt Prater just got to the team like three days
ago as they start the season one to zero.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Yeah, that happened. That happened. All right, we'll come back
and talk about it. But anything else.
Speaker 5 (33:44):
By the way, that fan who pushed DeAndre Hopkins, he
has been banned from NFL games.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
As he should be. We're adults. Keep keep your hands
to yourself. I don't care how drunk you are. I
don't care what the context is. Keep your hands to
yourself for God's sake. All right, Well, come back Steve
Smith Senior. I can't imagine how he would reacted if
that guy put his hands on him back in the day.
Steve Smith seeing your next sports radio ninety two to
seven WFNZ.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Over fifteen thousand total yards. He's gonna go the way
sixteen NFL seasons.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
If you say that's nice, not mean, last.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Five Pro Bowls and countless memories.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
When a dog gets an X ray, they've got that
Steve Smith inside their rib gage.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Steve Smith is on wfn Z, I sup Son.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Well, much like the Panthers offense yesterday. Hell, who am
I kidding? The entire team? We're malfunctioning a little bit
in the studio right now, having a difficult time connecting
with Steve Smith. We're going to try to get him
in here in just a moment, trying the circuitous way
to get him in on the show, and as soon
as we get him, we'll put him on the air
seven oh four, five, seven ninety six to ten. Hit
us up on the FanDuel text line. The FanDuel text
(34:56):
line is just humming right now, and that's typically the
case on a Panther Monday. I'm so sick of these
Panther Mondays. And I know that it's easy for guys
like us to get carried away. We don't have to
play the games. We don't have to carry the burden
of the losses like the players out there do. There's
no question about that. But you know, as fans who
invest their Sunday afternoons invest a lot of money. PSL
(35:17):
holders and season ticket holders in particular, you know, you
make a big investment in money and in time, and
you know emotional capital too. But it's it's more of
the same, more of the same. The last three years
of Bryce Young in openers, and that's the era we're
talking about, they've been outscored ninety two to thirty in
season openers. They've scored ten points in each one. Bryce
(35:38):
Young has thrown seven touchdowns and cough the football ups.
I'm sorry, three touchdowns. It cofted up seven times in
those three openers. Now, I think you'll be the first
to remind us that, you know, we had a very
different conversation this time of year ago than we were
having ten twelve weeks later. And so it's a long season.
I'm not going anywhere, but Panthers fans is got foul,
(36:00):
wrote today, and Joe Person wrote anothers they're fed up
with this stuff. You didn't look prepared for the opener,
and there are a lot of questions about that. And
our friend Steve Smith, senior Carolina Panthers legend, NFL analyst,
NFL network analyst that is, of course, is back to
give us his perspective on everything yesterday, and as always, Steve,
we appreciate you, my man. We'll start with your thirty
thousand foot view. Kind of an odd game yesterday in Jacksonville.
(36:22):
It was hot, we had a seventy two minute rain delay.
Of course both teams went through that, but we know
the final score twenty six to ten. What were your
primary takeaways?
Speaker 7 (36:31):
Well, primary takeaways? You know, after rewatching the game, I
was sitting here and I'm like, you know, why is
this happening? And what was a very interesting thing that
doing a little research, I believe Shan Waldron is on
that coaching staff. Well Liam Cohne, Liam Cohen is on
(36:55):
that coach is the head coach and all and the
play caller was also I believe quarterbacks coach. When Dave
can Allis was offensive coordinator in Tampa, and then when
he was offensive coordinator or quarterbacks coach or something in Seattle,
Shane Walders was there as well. So what does that
(37:18):
tell me is and then the most important part, former
offensive line coach was also on a coaching staff against
the Jaguars with the Jaguars versus the Panthers. So you
have three people who know what's going on not in
the passing game. So I'm not making any excuses, I'm
(37:41):
just doing my research as an anolanst. You have the
offensive coordinator, the former tight ends coach, and the former
O Liones coach. You got three people who know exactly
(38:02):
what to tell the defense to throw off the protection
and then you have the seventy two minute rain delay.
Speaker 9 (38:14):
Bro.
Speaker 7 (38:15):
That is where things can get fuzzy because both teams
now have seventy two minutes to dissect, adjust and make
more additions to their game plan based off what they
just saw because of the rain delay. And again I'm
not making an excuse, but I'm just telling you. When
(38:37):
I was sitting there, I'm saying, how is this happening?
And then the other parts sometimes of fans, are thinking
and let me, this is dumbing it down for Steve.
This is not to the fans. This is just for me. Right,
you're down third and eight, fourth quarter, you're down twenty
three to three. You know you've seen those the play
(39:01):
charts that all these coordinators have. Where the hell is
the play for down by twenty third and eight? Where's
that play on the play chart? It don't exist. There
is no play for we getting our ass whooped by
twenty Let me get this play to get us back
in the game right now, don't happen. And so I
(39:27):
think a little bit of what's going on is there's
an unrealistic expectation that us the city. You know I'm
not because I'm you know, I'm putting on my analyst hat,
the unrealistic expectation of this team. Now, all of a sudden,
(39:49):
they're playing for the Super Bowl, and they got Jerry
Rice and Joe Montana and Charles Haley and Sterling Sharp
and Shannon Sharp at tight end. They got all these
potentially Hall of Famer guys on the squad. Man, I
don't know what games I'll watching. I worked the preseason games.
I'm not saying that this is I didn't expect this.
(40:11):
What I'm saying is I keep using this every year
when I'm doing this show with you. September is what, Kyle,
what do I call September?
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Sloppy September?
Speaker 7 (40:22):
And what did that game look like?
Speaker 2 (40:23):
Sloppy as hell?
Speaker 3 (40:24):
Which leads me, which leads me to my next question,
because I think this is where you can really help
us out here too. Be it the you know, multiple
timeouts as the play clock was expiring, taking the play
clock down to under three seconds on probably ninety percent
of the snaps, Difficulty getting lined up, difficult to getting
the play call in. This all speaks to what you're
saying right now. How much of it was fixable, how
(40:46):
much of it was concerning.
Speaker 7 (40:48):
Well every game you lose is concerning, bro. I'm gonna
tell you right now, I'm rewatching the Raymonds game. It's
fifty fifty three seconds left is forty to thirty eight. Man,
everything it can be fixable, And that's a problem until
the results. Until the results are different and you actually
(41:09):
fix the issues. You know, we can sit here the
Monday morning quarterback or Monday afternoon general manager, whatever you
know you want to say. Man, the unfortunate part is
they lost. But we lost to a team that, for
whatever reason, everybody thought that it was a shoe in
(41:32):
and that all our you know, we're gonna run all
over them, all our guys was gonna maulshm and And
I'm not sure what games that was going on, because
it damn sure didn't go on in preseason. So I'm
not sure how these dudes just gonna roll out of
bed all of a sudden become Superman, with some of
(41:55):
them looking like damn Clark, Kitt and Robbin with no superpower.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
Well, then I will give you something that's very prominent
on my text line today and let you respond to that.
We have a lot of people saying, hey, remember a
couple of weeks ago when Dave pulled the starters in
Houston and said they didn't earn more reps out there,
you know, it sure looked like they could have used them.
There's a whole lot of that today, Steve, that all
these other teams and quarterbacks are playing more in the preseason,
why not the Panthers.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
What's your reaction to that, Well, there.
Speaker 7 (42:21):
Have been some quarterbacks who played in the preseason. Man,
Russell Wilson, did he play in a preseason I believe so,
I can't tell me did because he looked like he
didn't see a snap in preseason. Rus Russ was Dust
yesterday and I was watching, and I got a conspiracy
theory about that too. Yes, please, yeah, I think you know,
(42:46):
you remember you heard that they had some play set
for Jackson Dark to play, right yep. I think they
never gave him any plays because if that young man
would have sniffed sniffed a possible positive pass play, they
(43:07):
be looking for Jackchen Dart to be played playing right now.
Speaker 2 (43:12):
They already want that. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (43:15):
So as far as Panthers fans, I mean, you have
to really understand in a rebuild, you gotta be okay
and understanding a rebuild. It's not gonna always look pretty.
And I hate to say it. You know what they say,
you gotta it gets worse before it gets better.
Speaker 3 (43:38):
Steve, let me ask you about something that Mark Schlaret
said on the broadcast yesterday, and as a former wide receiver,
I'd love your thoughts on it.
Speaker 7 (43:45):
I am my form of wide receiver because you know,
depending on what I say, I get this crazy.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
Well, last I checked the tape. You were.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
Late in the first HALFIC say your league get makes
the catch, should have dragged his toe routine play, doesn't
do it, that's bad enough, and then wiffs on a
block with poor effort. I think the next play two
plays later. Mark Salairas just hammered him on the broadcast
for that lack of effort. As a former wide receiver
with your mentality, how much does that bother you?
Speaker 7 (44:11):
Ah? It doesn't bother me one bit.
Speaker 8 (44:14):
Why is that?
Speaker 7 (44:16):
Because I don't play football anymore. I get I deal
with paper cuts.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
How much did that bother his position?
Speaker 7 (44:21):
Coach?
Speaker 4 (44:23):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (44:23):
That's I know his position coach own his own his
behind big time. Yeah right, that's gonna be talked about.
But again, he's a young player, so he looked like
a deer headlights. If you look at his eyes, you
look at he played some of the routine things that
(44:45):
he messed up, and that's a young man just trying
to make it. That's a young squad. That's a young
wide receiver squad. You let go of Adam Thielen to
make room for your young guys to grow. Growing PA
means are what you're experiencing and visualized and visually seen
(45:05):
right now because Hunter Renfrow just got there, he would
let go blah blah blah. You think just just throwing
it out there. You think these young guys actually want
to hear from older guys because we're all haters and
we want what they have, and so it becomes problematic
(45:28):
and difficult to communicate with the wall.
Speaker 3 (45:34):
How disappointed were you? I mean, listen, you know what
I mean by this too.
Speaker 7 (45:37):
I know you don't tell I am not disappointed. I'm
sitting in my house.
Speaker 2 (45:43):
Listen.
Speaker 3 (45:44):
I heard the question because I know you don't have
any emotional attachment. I get that, but as somebody who
watches the film and knows what it should look like.
I watched Bryce yesterday and I saw plenty of good
throws but I saw it all erased by carelessness with
the football. How concerning is that if you're a head coach, I.
Speaker 7 (46:00):
Mean, you have to address those issues because that is
the individual who deals with the ball every single time.
So you have to address that. But you also got
to understand when the rains are pours. So that's gonna happen, right,
that's part of I mean, there's a number of games
that happened this last night or Sunday that it was
(46:25):
depending on who you who you pull their complaining and
we can't do nothing right here, here's what you have
to understand, pointing out Leaguet, pointing out Bryce. So just
flow with me real quick. So I'm gonna open the
(46:47):
sun roof of my car and it's raining, and yet
the person is pouring and the person in the back
seat is complaining that their seat is wet. It's water
all up in the car.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
Yeah, everything's bad.
Speaker 7 (47:05):
Everything bad. Did you just use a g A ruin?
Speaker 2 (47:12):
What do you want me to say?
Speaker 7 (47:14):
Wha ruin? How about you sitting? What's your draws though
in a wet seat?
Speaker 2 (47:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (47:24):
I ain't even talking about socks being wet. It feels
like you tinkled on yourself. You're talking about you're talking
about you. You don't see the forest through the trees though.
Speaker 3 (47:37):
All right, well, listen, when you get through all that film,
hit me up and let me know if you find
some good stuff, because we sure could use some good.
Speaker 2 (47:42):
News around your brother.
Speaker 7 (47:43):
Listen, there is a lot of good things. That's how
they got the points that they got.
Speaker 3 (47:49):
Well, listen, I appreciate you as always. We'll talk to
you next Monday.
Speaker 7 (47:52):
Appreciate.
Speaker 3 (47:53):
Here you go, Steve Smith, seen you're with us on
the hotline. Will come back. Your phone calls. We're taking
phone calls all day long. Tea dog fan Guy, Dave Keith,
Everybody's up next. Sports Radio ninety two seven wfn Z
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