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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Cvinjurylaw dot com. Big thanks to Zach Jackson of The
Athletic covers the Cleveland Browns. I think, begrudgingly, I'm kidding,
but the text line picked up on a little bit
of defeatist viewpoint from Zach Jackson. Now he's a beat writer.
Let's keep this in mind. Just because Zach covers the
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team doesn't mean he roots for the team. In fact,
the best beat writers don't root for the teams that
they cover. They're just there to get the information and
cover the team. In my opinion, there's a place for
the independent, fan oriented media. There's a lot of it
out there, and there's nothing wrong with it, right, but
it's not the same as just straight up, you know, bipartisan,
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unbiased journalism. And I do think that's what Zach Jackson
brings to the Cleveland Beat, and so I bring that
up because the text line during that conversation in this
order James from Concord, Damn Brown's already talking about getting
the number one pick.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Lol.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Being a Panther fan ain't so bad? Bisickle heerd said, Damn,
ain't nobody calling this guy a homer? Brutally honest and
I love it. Eight four to three. Zack Jackson sounds
so defeated already and the season hasn't hasn't even started yet.
Chili Willie, this dude sounds like a Panthers fan, just
brutal to have this outlook going into a season. And
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he's one hundred percent right. The Browns are a disaster,
easy math. The Cleveland Browns are the Washington generals of
the NFL, sweet cheeks who thank the goods sports Jesus
that I'm not a Browns fan. Uh, Charlotte bleacher bum.
He sounds like he's prepared for a long season race,
and Jason says, I don't think I've ever heard a
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team beat writer sound so out towards a team that
he's covering in my whole life. Uh yeah, I'm just
he's honest, and we stood next to Zach for much
of the morning today.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
I let him do his job.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I don't like to interrupt beat writers when they're doing
their job because that's when they're in their element. But
Zach's fun to talk to. He just he's a straight shooter.
He calls it like he sees it. By the way,
today was the first day I saw Mike k in
his element. Oh my gosh, Oh, shout out Mike K.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
He's got strong and I mean this is a highest
form of compliment.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
He's got strong Bob Pocris vibes.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Because when I'm at the racetrack and I see Bob Pokers,
he is just all business all the time. Out the
media room, back into the media room. He's just he's
the ish you know, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
No, no, I do.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
He's he's a Mike K because like we talk about
Mike Rabel being a football guy, Dan Morgan's a football guy.
The beat writers have that version too, Like there are
football guys in the media the press corps too, and
Mike Kay is one of them. That dude can't get enough.
And he's very thorough and it's not just the team stuff,
the eleven on eleven. He loves break we saw him
taking videos of the offense for the Panthers' offensive line,
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or rather defensive line against the Cleveland offensive line. We
can't publish that stuff. By the way, Mike just wanted
him so he could watch him. He just wanted him
so he could take a look at him after the fact.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
It was awesome.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
It makes me think of the story you said last
year where everyone into the press box is like, who
the hell's number eighty eight, and he's like, oh, Stanch
is in a yeah guy. It picked up about a
week ago on the practice squad. He's now elevated, No biggie.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
It's just funny stuff. Great stuff from Zach Jackson seven
oh four five, seven oh ninety six ten. Hit us
up on the FanDuel text line. Before we get to
the best audio in sports. Leo Mazzoni is coming up
in eighteen minutes. This will be our last conversation with
Leo for a while. The Braves are out of it.
Football season's back. It's just that time of year. You know,
if the Braves were still in it, you know, we
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might be having a different conversation. But you know, Leo's
gonna take a break after this week. We'll bring him
back maybe during the playoffs the World Series. We love
him and he's offered to do that. So it just
is what it is. You know, the Braves are irrelevant
at this point and you know, going nowhere the rest
of the year. But speaking of baseball, we just had
a near no hitter in the Guardians Mets game a
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couple of minutes ago. Now, Cleveland went on to secure
it and Gavin Kevin Williams I was going to say,
I want to say Gavin Smith. Gavin Williams, the writy
for Cleveland, who was from Fayettville, North Carolina, Kate for
your high school and play to ECU, had a no
hitter going into the ninth inning. Okay, that no hitter
was broken up by a Juan Soto home run, a
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solo shot. So the no hitter was dashed in the
ninth inning by Juan Soto, one of my least favorite
players in all of sports and in particular baseball. But
you know, Juan Soto's incredibly talented whatever, so he breaks
up the no hitter in the ninth inning. Cleveland Guardians
go on to win. Gavin Williams gets the complete game,
I believe, and you know.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
No no, no, he got he got relieved. Oh he
did get relieved because I turned around.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
So he got Pete Alonzo out and Dan Starling Marte
walked and they're like his pitch count was like at
one hundred and thirty two.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
It's like, yeah, okay, I get it.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
So anyway, after the game, MLB Network is flashing a
graphic of the teams that had the longest no hitter drought.
The teams that have it's been the longest since they
had a pitcher throw a no hitter. The Guardians formerly
the Indians are the number one on that list. They
haven't had one since nineteen eighty one. Third on that
list was the Atlanta Braves, who have not had a
no hitter since nineteen ninety four. Ninety four is the
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last time the Braves had a pitcher throw a no hitter,
and it was thrown by Kent Murker in nineteen ninety four. Now,
Braves fans, especially the og nineties era Braves fans, they
know all about Kent Mrker. What you might not know
is though Kent Merker had a hand in the last
two Braves no hitters, because he threw the last one
by himself in ninety four. But the one prior to
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that in nineteen ninety one was a combination of Kent Mrker,
Mark Wohlers and Alejandro Pana back on so September eleventh,
nineteen ninety one.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
So there's a little nugget for you.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Actually found the box score for when Kent Murcerfrew was
no hitter as a solo pitcher, and that was it
gets to Dodgers on April eighth, nineteen ninety four.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
You need to bring that up. We need to talk
about that. But that's history for you. We'll talk about
some of that with Leo coming up in fifteen minutes.
Right now, we go to smoke with the best audio
in sports.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
What did you say? You what?
Speaker 5 (06:23):
What did you say?
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Hold up?
Speaker 5 (06:25):
Wait a minute?
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Send me right, I hear.
Speaker 6 (06:28):
What I mean by that is HI?
Speaker 3 (06:31):
What you got over there? All right?
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Well, we start things off by talking about the Carolina
Panthers and specifically some of the stuff Dave Canalis mentioned
in his press conference.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
We got some of the stuff in the last hour.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Well, one of the stuff that caught my attention specifically
was the fact that brad Issac is going to get
some reps at oc throughout the preseason, and he was
Dave Canas was asked after explaining that whether or not
Brad is it could eventually become the play caller here
in Carolina for the long term, long haul.
Speaker 6 (06:58):
Preseason, absolutely, regular season could be you know, I think,
and I still have a lot to give to our
team in terms of, you know, being able to have
the continuity and the h you know, just kind of
building off of the first year, you know. But in
the preseason, absolutely a Gerald will do the same thing,
you know, with Pete Hanson, with Jonathan Cooley. Uh, these
are guys that we would love to develop.
Speaker 7 (07:19):
You know.
Speaker 6 (07:19):
We're a developmentally minded organization. And that's our players, but
it's also our coaching staff.
Speaker 7 (07:24):
You know.
Speaker 6 (07:24):
And and I think back to my time in Seattle,
and I got opportunities to call plays in scrimmages. I
got opportunities to call, not not to call any of
the preseason games, but when we would have moved the
ball periods and say the second or third group was up,
you know, they'd be like, here, give you the walkie
talkie and go for it. Here's you know. So I
would like kind of prep the night before and have
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a couple of thoughts and it just kind of got
my juices going. And so that first time I get
a chance to be an offensive coordinator Tampa.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
It's not the first time.
Speaker 6 (07:54):
I've ever called plays through a microphone with the delays
and all that. So I love that. I love, you know,
having that opportunity for those coaches to kind of think
for the next step in their careers.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Well now, selfishly, I'd like for him to hide izick,
you know, for a while, because you know, Dave's calling plays.
Let's keep the coaching staff together for a while, especially
if things are going well. But no, in all seriousness,
this is what good coaching staffs do. We've seen this
a lot over the years, probably more so than most
fans realize. And the good organizations develop their coaches too.
It's why when you lose guys, because inevitably, if this
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is and we hope the start of a nice little
run of Panthers football under the guidance of Dan Morgan
and Dave Canalis, that people will poach this coaching staff.
That's what happens with winning organizations. You will lose guys,
so you have to develop them. So ideally you can
promote guys inside the building. You always want to look
outside your building to bring in the best people possible,
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but you want guys in your building to be given
opportunities first to prove themselves. And they're in the building
every day. They know the personnel, They hopefully know the offense,
the defense.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
You know they're watching days.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Canalyis call plays, structure game plans, opening scripts for plays
like it's important, So I don't. I think it raises
an interesting question about whether or not Dave gives up
play calling at some point. You know, in my mind,
if things are going well and they're winning games and
he's calling plays, why would you give it up? But
it seems like it's at least on his mind a
little bit. So we'll see how Brad Iadac does in
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the preseason. What else you got? All right now?
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Going down to Dallas to see what's up with Micah
Parsons and Jerry Jones. As yesterday, Jerry Jones admitted during
practice that maybe Micah Parsons could miss out on the
season opener against the Philadelphia Eagles, and Wider was maybe
hiccup on the deal, thinking he had the deal done
but it was not in writing.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
It's my understanding nothing was put in writing.
Speaker 8 (09:47):
So how would you describe a deal getting, so to speak,
done and then walked away from I.
Speaker 7 (09:54):
Bought to Dallas Cowboys with a handshake, took about thirty seconds,
and gave the numbers, shook hands. The details we worked
out later. As a matter of fact, one of the
details involved a lot of money and we had to
flip a coin over that. But the fundamental I'm buying
and you're going to sell it to me for that range,
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that's done and those are done with eye contact or handshake.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
So is there just so you understand.
Speaker 7 (10:20):
Why I the way that I communicate with people that
I negotiate with. So let's leave it at that. There
is no question that in the case of a player
or contract, you have to have it in writing. All
parties do we have a contract in writing, yet we're
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still talking about renegotiating it.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
So so much for that. So what's the sticking point
for you right now at this point?
Speaker 7 (10:47):
And there are no point. There's points of varying degrees
of influencing not having something done, But nothing that I
would say is either ordinary.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
He knows how this gets done. Like I understand that business,
business does get done.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
That way sometimes.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
But like you aren't negotiating oil rights in the plains
of Texas. You aren't buying a franchise, Like you aren't
buying a you know, a propane franchise off of this.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
That's not what this is. Every player that.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
You deal with as an organization has an agent, and
all of them, and especially the good ones, let their
agents negotiate their deals. And so Jerry in his mind thinks, well,
I cornered Micah Parsons and in all likelihood forced a
conversation on him about you know, contracts and what I
think he's worth and what Jerry would like to pay him.
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And he probably dominated the conversation, and Micah was there
being respectful to the owner, you know, and no doubt
participated in the conversation. But it's still always going to
be the agent who negotiates the deal and gets it
to and you know, goes back and forth with the
organization on the terms. Like David Mullagedta is his agent.
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David Mullagedtt is not a nobody. He's one of the
more prominent agents in the NFL. I still can't wrap
my head around Jerry believing that he just simply had
a deal done because he told the player himself what
he really wanted to pay him, and absent the agent,
he just thought Michael would go back to David mullaged
and say, hey, we got this.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Thing hammered out. We're good. We just need you to
look over the paper.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
No, that's what he pays David Mullagett of the five
percent for agents, take five percent to do the work,
to do the negotiating. I just Jerry knows. It's so insincere.
And this is just in keeping with some of the
craziness we've seen from Jerry Jones the last couple of years.
That's a wild thing to say. Would you on a
napkin like this? In a wildcatter deal?
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Man?
Speaker 2 (12:47):
The NFLPA exists for a reason. You've been a part
of these fights, these negotiations, these all of it for
decades and now you're just like, well, I thought we
got a deal. It's he it in his eyes. Come on, man,
what else you got?
Speaker 3 (12:59):
All right?
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Wellson's been receiving a lot of hype this year as
the main playoff contender for the ACC and potentially a
national championship contender, but for the first time in the
off season, We've had someone on a national scale really
doubt that Clemson is going to be that good. And
it comes from no utter, none uttered in the bear
Chris Felika.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
He like sounding miserable about this, but I am miserable.
Speaker 8 (13:24):
Yes, I'm a contrarian negative glass glass is always a
half empty.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
But what did they really accomplished last year?
Speaker 8 (13:31):
Blown out in the opening game of the year against
an SEC team, non competitive and home lost to Louisville. Defense,
got gutted, lost in your home field to South Carolina,
stole a game pick that you had absolutely zero business winning,
and then in the a SEC championship game, Samu basically
spotted your points with some ridiculous turnovers. I mean, this
is a team that benefit I think there were four
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third or fourth in the nation and turnover marginal last year,
and I get credit that you didn't turn the ball over,
but it's not going to happen again this year.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
Who knows.
Speaker 8 (13:58):
I know Klubnik and the a young wide receivers certainly
had a little bit of a port.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
They still had some trouble running the ball, and that will.
Speaker 8 (14:04):
See if the freshman getting come in and maybe make
them a little bit explosive, more explosive on the ground.
But you look at the schedule this year. You got
the SEC opener against Ellis. You want to know, they're
a four point home favorite over LSU. You've got to
go to South Carolina, You've got to go to Louisville.
You've got SMU coming in. Georgia Tech is on the
road and they are always a pain in the you know,
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A wat to play BC, I think is going to
be scrappy with Bill O'Brien and some of the roster
changes they've had there. Like, I don't know, I think
ten wins is going to be extremely hard.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
I don't think ten wins is going to be extremely
hard for Clemson. Now, if you want to debate whether
or not they can win a game in the College
Football play or get to the playoff and win a game,
then't Yeah, we can have that discussion. You know, if
Clemson wins nine games in the regular season, they'll win
a tenth in the bowl game. So I don't think
ten wins for this team is going to be incredibly hard.
Battlehawk Nation just said Bear is also a Miami fan.
(14:59):
Is that true? I don't listen, we all have fandom
and allegiances, So I'm not going to use that to
discredit him. But you know, if you're Clemson, Clemson had
a good, not great year in twenty twenty four. They
might characterize it as great because they made the playoff,
but they had a good, really good, not great year.
They made the playoff, they were the twelve seed. They
were immediately eliminated by Texas. They had some really strong
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offensive performances last year, particularly in the passing game, but
the defense, which was, you know, for a long time
of strength, did show some vulnerabilities last year. But Tom
Allen's there to beef that up, and they feel like
they're even more talented with some returning talent coming back
with it.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
So I hear him.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
I don't think it's a lock that Clemson is a
you know, top four team in America or anything like that,
but I do think he went a little bit too
far in the other direction to undercut Clemson. And I'm
not a Clemson fan, but I do think they're winning
ten eleven games this year and in all likelihood making
the playoffs out of the ACC That's what did you
say the best.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Audio in the world of sports?
Speaker 2 (16:01):
When we return Leo Mazzoni, longtime Atlanta Braves pitching coach,
Braves Hall of Famer for the final time for a
while the Braves are out of it. Lots of baseball news.
We'll get his thoughts on a lot. That's next Sports
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a Wednesday training camp well underway joint practice this morning
in Uptown with the Cleveland Browns Panthers offense had a
good day defense kind of TBD. They had those guys
opposite end of the field from us, everybody in the media.
We didn't get as good a look at them, but
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a decent report, especially with the run defense apparently having
a good day against Cleveland's offense. So Cleveland's a bit
of a mess. If you heard Zach Jackson of the
Athletic join us a little while ago, he's been covering
the Browns for a while, covering the NFL for a while,
and many listeners describing his takes on Cleveland as brutally honest,
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and I would agree with that. And if you missed it,
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Robin Harper, two time Pro Bowler, Super Bowl champion, SEC
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football and we'll talk a little bit about the NFC
South as well.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
But right now, on the heels of a near.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
No hitter that was broken up by Juan Soto just
a little while ago, and the Braves falling further and
further behind in the NL East, we thought we'd check
in once again with Leo Mazzoni, longtime Atlanta Braves pitching coach,
Braves Hall of Famer. He's back with us here on
a Wednesday to talk a little baseball.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
What's going on, Leo? How are you, buddy?
Speaker 1 (18:05):
I'm doing good. I was hoping the kid would get
the no hitter. I watched the last couple of innings
and anybody but Sodo, Okay, anybody but him, and then
he's got a lousy grin on his face and they're lose.
They lose the game, but he's happy he broke up
the no hitter and hit a home run.
Speaker 9 (18:22):
But you know what, just something about that guy.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
There's a there's a lack of chemistry there somewhere, and
uh anyway, no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
No, stay there, because I'm with you. I don't want
I don't like the guy. As a sports fan, I
don't like him. And when he when he was a
free agent, I was on the air. I was like,
I don't I'm a Dodger fan. People like to give
me hell because my team spends all this money. I
wanted nothing to do with Wan Soto. I don't care
how good he is. But a Texter earlier said KB,
why is he so disliked? Why why do people dislike
Juan Soto so much? Why do you think that is?
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Well? I think it's his attitude, you know, I mean,
uh uh number number one. I remember years ago Steve
Avery told me he couldn't stand.
Speaker 9 (19:01):
Him, and this when.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Steve had retired. But anyway, it's just the way you
conduct your business, you know. I mean, sometimes he hasn't
run out a couple of balls. Everything's lucy goosey. You know,
nothing looks nothing looks real serious. Yet if you check
his numbers in the clutch with men on base, it's
not very good.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Yeah, all right, Well there's your answer for anybody who's
been asking now speaking of the near no hitter. I
don't know if you had MLB network on right after
this when they showed this, but they showed a graphic
of the teams the organizations with the longest no hitter
drought in baseball, and Cleveland is still the number one.
They haven't had a no hitter since nineteen eighty one.
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The Braves are the fourth longest drought and their last one. Well,
you were there, Kent Murker in nineteen ninety four against
my beloved LA Dodgers. What do you remember about that day?
Speaker 7 (19:56):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (19:56):
I remember it?
Speaker 1 (19:57):
A lot number one come in in the sixth inning
and he says, I'm tired. And I looked at him.
I said, what are you nuts? You know? In other words,
they don't say that now, right, Kelly say you know, okay,
we'll get you out.
Speaker 8 (20:11):
Ok.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
He says, I'm tired. I said, what are you nuts?
He goes, what do you mean? I said, well, look
up on the scoreboard and I'm cleaning it up. I said,
look up on the scoreboard, you know. I said, yeah,
you got a no hitter, going for crying out loud?
You tired? He goes no, Okay, I said, okay, let's go.
So then he goes back. He goes out for the ninth,
and he's perfectly fine. He throws one hundred and twenty
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seven pitches, ninety two fastballs and gets his no hitter.
And then he only pitched seventeen years after that.
Speaker 9 (20:41):
Imagine that. Yeah, and then this kid today they put
a graphic up.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Did you see that one? No most pitches thrown by
a big league pitcher in eleven years was twenty one
hundred and twenty eight or whatever the hell it was?
Speaker 9 (20:58):
Cold Amils did it years ago?
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (21:02):
I said.
Speaker 9 (21:02):
I looked at that and I.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Went, my, look, how far we have gone down the
toilet when it comes to starting pitching?
Speaker 3 (21:09):
One hundred and five?
Speaker 10 (21:09):
What was it?
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Smoke?
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Was it one thirty two? Is that what you told
me earlier? It was in the late one twenties early
a lot.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Yeah, I mean it's yeah, first time in eleven years
somebody threw that many. I mean, where do you go?
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Come on, give me a break, whether nobody can start?
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Was there ever a cutoff for you though, like when
you were out there was there ever a pitch number
where you said that's it, that's enough.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
We got to get him out of there.
Speaker 11 (21:32):
Hell no, okay, no, you know what if he was
you know and I if you watched the pitcher and
you know, once he found out about that no hit
or going, I mean he that jack Jack came up
even more.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
See, Kyle, there's no second but no second No, there's
nothing that says second wind anymore. Oh he got his
second wind. You heard that before? Yes, oh yeah, he
got his his second wind kicked in. Now he's okay.
Or he got to a certain number of pitch is
like russ Ortiz did. They said, well he's up to
eighty pitches. He should be just getting loose now. But
you know, and those things are not jokingly things. There
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are things that actually take place. Not anymore, Oh my god,
don't you know?
Speaker 3 (22:16):
All right, we're babying them. That's what Leo thinks.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
He's Leo AMAZONI with us on the on the hotline
here talking about a little bit of baseball, a lot
of action today real quick. It wasn't just the Kent
Murker no hitter in nineteen ninety four. Because you're a
steel trap. We just had a text a listener text
in to say one hundred and twenty seven pitches ninety
two fastballs. Leo is a steel trap and a national icon.
(22:39):
Now let me test you again. Do you recall the
no hitter before that? Before the Murker won in ninety four?
Speaker 5 (22:48):
I think I was at the Braves.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
I think there was a Yeah, yeah, it was Murker,
Mark Wohlers and a Lejandro Paya.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Now listen, I'm not shocked that you remember happening, but.
Speaker 9 (23:00):
Yeah, well I got a crazy story for you.
Speaker 7 (23:03):
Pain you.
Speaker 9 (23:03):
After he got the last.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Out, he didn't know we had no Hitargy through the
ball and stands.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
No, did he really? Did you get it back?
Speaker 1 (23:10):
We said, Alejandro, Alejandro, no hitter, no hitry was not
no big deal, no big deal.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
I'm guessing you didn't get that baseball back then?
Speaker 9 (23:20):
Yeah, yeah, we got it back.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
But yeah, matter of fact, in my room, I have
a picture of the three of them all lined up together.
And you know what Merker did after he saw that
no hittery He gave me a gold watch and put
the no hitter on it, the date and who it
was against.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Oh, that's fantastic, that's fantastic.
Speaker 10 (23:37):
Man.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
All right, Yeah, so Kent Murker had a hand in
each of the last two Braves no hitters in ninety
four and nineteen ninety one. Yeah, all right, yeah, So
real quick, how was that? We haven't talked to you
in a couple of weeks. How how was the All
Star Game? How was the experience in Atlanta? Would you think?
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Oh, it was absolutely awesome. I tell you it's you know,
when you when they when they call you one of
the legends of the game, you know, it makes you
feel very proud. But I got a good one for you.
How I'm in the car and I'm going to go
sign autographs with Raleigh Fingers. So I'm sitting there in
the back seat with Rolly Fingers, you know, who had
to close games like pitching three innings to get a saved.
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And I'm sitting there and he saw my World Series
ring and he goes, that's your World Series ring. I
said yeah, I said, yeah, the Braves with Bobby Cox.
He goes, I heard Bobby Cox was a real red ass.
That's a baseball term for a hot temper. I said, yeah,
he could do that every once in a while.
Speaker 9 (24:29):
He says, well, let me.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Tell you what happened to me? He says, Charlie Finley
was so cheap. He said, we won three World Series
in a row or seventy two, seventy three, seventy four.
I think he said we won three World Series in
a row. He said the first two rings that he
gave us did not have one diamond in it. He said,
not one. And then after we won the third World Series,
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he called me up and said, I'm going to give
you one thousand dollars raise. And he told, you know,
I can't repeat on the air what he told Charlie
Finley to do. You know.
Speaker 9 (24:58):
So when you hear those kind of.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Stories that went on all the time until Marvin Miller
and the Union, thank god, but that went on all
the time, the owners of treat them like crap.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Yeah, speaking of the owners in the Union, what did
you think of the report that Bryce Harper stood nose
to nose with Rob Manford and told him to get
the hell out of the Phillies Clubhouse a couple of
weeks ago.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
If he wanted to talk about a salary cap, I
like it.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Take a hike, you know, one time, one time we
had years ago. This they decided they were going to
attax all of us for every city that we went into.
In other words, when we had to fill fill out
our income tax, you had to tax, like if you
were in Philadelphia for six days what you made there,
you had to tax what you did here? What there?
(25:47):
You know, one time I got a thing from Sacramento,
California to my dollar six, you know, and I never
thought anything about it. Then six years later they came
back and said, you know, it's six hundred and six.
Speaker 9 (25:58):
Oh my god, Yeah, because I didn't pay it.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Yeah, I mean, what the hell's dollars six?
Speaker 5 (26:03):
You know?
Speaker 1 (26:04):
But anyway, what happened was there was a guy and
it was from Philly that was going around the major
leagues telling him about this tax how they were do
the taxes.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
They threw him out of the clubhouse really like physically.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Yeah, get out of here. So Harper said that, huh boy,
I'll tell you I.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Don't think I mean, you know, look, they're talking lockout
already two years from now because of it. I mean,
Rob Manford's threatening a lockout already.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
I'm telling you, you know, you know, it's a it
never stops. It just doesn't ever stop, you know. And
and there shouldn't be a salary cap. I don't think
anybody should be grudge as much. Again, and if what
they're paying these guys.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
They have it, Oh yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
They have it. I mean, look at what's going on
in Dallas with Terry Jones. That's turned into a joke.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
We were just talking about that.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Like, I know you're an old school guy, but you
are also you know, I tell people all the time,
they assume that your old school about ever, but you're not.
Like you there are certain things that you are very
progressive about. But it does bother me that Jerry Jones
still thinks that he can do business that way in
twenty twenty five. Like, this isn't This isn't an oil deal, buddy,
Like players have agents. Why are you trying to circumvent
the agent to get your star pass Rusher under contract?
Speaker 9 (27:15):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (27:16):
I know, I know, and you know, and but I'm
really interested cal in my Pittsburgh Steelers to see what
Rogers is gonna do.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Okay, how interested are I've watched an NFL playoff game
with you. You are a diehard NFL fan in your heart
of hearts? Do you believe that Aaron Rodgers has enough
left to get the Steelers to the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Yes, you do. He will. That's because of his attitude
right now with Mike Tomlin. You know so, I think
I think that's going to happen, and I think Notre
Dame's gonna win the National championship. All right.
Speaker 9 (27:46):
Well, I mean listen, they had number five preseason.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Well they got They got as good a shot as anybody.
There's no doubt about that. Hey, two quick things will
get you out of here. Smoke wanted me to ask
you about this cal Rawley, the big dumper. Right this
guy's hit forty two home runs for Seattle. He is
on pace for sixty with a chance to catch Aaron
Judge and the American League record of sixty two. That
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would be a lot of fun. He could also, obviously,
you know, past Roger Maris and things like that.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Sure, I looked it up.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Salvador Perez has the single season record for most home
runs by a catcher, with forty eight runs in a
seat forty eight. Unless cal Rawley gets injured, he's gonna go.
He's gonna blow past that. What do you think of
the season he's having and put it in historical context for.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Me, Oh, I think it's wonderful, especially because he's behind
the plate, and especially because he's a switch hitter, and
you know, he's built not built like it a donnas.
He's just a little regular guy, you know, And I
think he put himself in position for it to be
a Most Valuable Player candidate.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
He's unbelievable to watch. How cool is it going to
watch it?
Speaker 2 (28:54):
How cool is it to watch his dad pitch to
him and his brother catch for him in the home
run derby?
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Amazing?
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Yeah, I know, it's just it's amazing what's going on.
But man, balls are flying out all over the damn
place mine. Golly. They had what Major League Baseball set
records last week? They had two teams played, each team
had twenty hits, and then another two teams played and
each team had twenty hits. So it was the first
time in the history of Major League Baseball there was
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two games with a total of forty hits each and
on the same day.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
Wow, that's pretty amazing. That's pretty amazing.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Hey, you know what, as a pitching coach, I can't
stand the listen to that.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
I know, I know it bothers you now, I kind
of dropped the ball. A minute ago when we were
talking about the Kent Murker no hitters, Okay, I got
to ask you know you are you infamously let your
guys go. You worked them right, you let them throw
a lot of pitches. Why in ninety one did Mrker
come out of the game? Why did you need wohlers
in Alejandro Panya in that game?
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Because he was done. He really was done. In La
he wasn't done. But if you watched him start that game,
he was done, and the pitch count had nothing to
do with You watch his body language, you watch his
facial expressions, and he was done. So therefore we based
our decisions on common sense. Nobody had to put a
number next to it. He was done. So for example,
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there he goes nine, any no hitter, he wasn't done.
Six or seven any no seven, any no hitter? He
was done.
Speaker 9 (30:19):
So though, you've got to take those things into.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Consideration, not just say, oh, well he's got this, now
we got to take him out. Uh huh. That's not
necessarily true. And when you're throwing no hitters, you know
you're in a pretty good groove. But when you're in
the you know, you's got to think in the factors, heat, humidity,
all this sort of thing is nine anty. No hitter
was in LA.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
That's a good point, all right, last thing and it's
a big question, but I'll just give you the floor
on this. You know, the Braves not things have not
worked out this year. They're seventeen games back of the division,
not going to make the playoffs in all likelihood. And
we know that Brian Snicker's moving upstairs. What what kind
of off season you know when we get there do
the Braves need to have? Do you do you have
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anybody in mind you'd like to see replace Brian Snitker.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
What are your thoughts?
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Well, I really don't didn't know that he was going
to be replaced, to be honest with you, you know,
so therefore, until that happens, I'm gonna I'm gonna stick
with Snip. But I'm going to tell you what you
can't You can't expect to.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Do anything.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Right when you have five starters down starting your whole
rotation from the start of the season is down. Then
you lose a Kuna Junior, then you lose this guy,
then you lose that guy. Hey, nobody feels sorry for
nobody in this game. But I'm going to tell you what.
Having five starters go down is absolutely ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Yeah, it's tough.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
And again I should I should throw in there that
it's being reported that Brian Snitker will move into the
front office at the end of the year. Well it's
been reported by multiple reporters, but the Braves themselves have
not announced that, so that seems to be the belief.
And I want to make it clear because that's not
been an official announcement by the organization. So I didn't
want you thinking you miss something big because that hasn't
happened yet from the Braves front office.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
So we shall see. We shall see. Buddy.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
I appreciate you as always. We will talk to you
again soon. I promise you that we appreciate you and
your time each and every week.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
All right, listen, we're heading out to Alaska. We're going
on a cruise to Alaska on Saturday. Oh, I won't
be back on that Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Go fight a grizzly bear. I'm sorry, not a polar bear.
What's wrong with me? A polar bear? Good Lord?
Speaker 3 (32:26):
I guess either one. Okay, Hi, buddy, there you go.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Leo MAZONI with us hanging out his final Wednesday of
the baseball season.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Braves are out of it.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
We'll still talk a little baseball, but Leo is going
to take a break, probably until the playoffs. We'll get
him back during the playoffs. We'll talk about the World Series.
But we appreciate his time. Right now, we go to
smoke on the headlines. Oh no, things aren't working as planned.
The buttons aren't being pushed. Looks like something from they're
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being pushed. So let's just go with this one with
no music.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
So Kyle, Yes, some news in the NC that could
be big for Carolina in the rest of the NFC.
In the playoff Pitcher Rams quarterback Matthew Stafford is dealing
with an aggravated disc and he has received an epidural
to help him deal with it. The Rams called it
week to week being cautious with the veteran quarterback, but
there are still plans for him to play in Week
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one for the Rams. So something that the Rams got
to be very concerned with Matt Stafford. He's getting closer
and closer to forty years old.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
Yeah. An epidural. Huh, Yes, an epidural.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
The only context I ever heard the word epidural was
in regard to childbirth. I didn't know that people got
those if they weren't giving birth. Maybe I'm dumb. Maybe
I should have known that, But I've never never heard
of that.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Is that it?
Speaker 4 (33:43):
Yeah, by the way, this doesn't hit the same without
the music. By the way, Yeah, it definitely does it.
It's funny because I literally pressed a button, but it
didn't work. Apparently, Brown's wide receivers Jerry Judy and Cedric
Tillman will not play on Friday against Carolina, So even
more starters for the Brown's not playing.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Good luxury. All right, we'll come back. We'll tell you
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Speaker 4 (35:00):
Well, I'm gonna go with Gavin Williams picture of the
Cleveland Guardians and former ECU standout as well as Kate
fear high Legend. He had a no hitter going into
d ninth inning against the New York Mets. Unfortunately, Juan
Soto ruined the party. Gave up a home run, but
still eight and third innings, five strikeouts, and most importantly
the win for Gavin Williams.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
How about that, I'll throw an honorable mention to my
guys show Heyo Tani who just went deep seconds ago
against the Saint Louis Cardinals.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
What was that number?
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Fifty forty I'm sorry for I think it's having forty
nine or forty. Okay, I've got it behind me so
Smoke can see all the TVs. I have to turn
and crane my neck to see what's going on. But
that was a moonshot as Future Redemption just put it
on the FanDuel text line. Otani to you said it
was left center, right, yeah, left center, and there was
a melee to get the baseball Well yeah, of course,
(35:53):
also though Irmo South Carolina little Leaguers. Man, I was
rooting for the Lake Norman Little Leaguers, but the Carolina
will have representation at the Little League World Series. Irmo
South Carolina with a walk off, three run triple to
advance earlier this afternoon. So to the Irmo South Carolina
Little leaguers, you balled out. It's one of those things
(36:13):
I look back as a kid and I think if
there was one thing I wish I could have done
as a kid, it would be playing the Little League
World Series. That like that, of all the things, everybody's
got different hopes and dreams and aspirations. I didn't even
play Little League, Like I don't know how it was
in Lincoln County, but like we played Dixie League growing up,
you were little League. Like I know, some towns I'd
love to hear from people out there, like what's the
(36:35):
predominant league or affiliation?
Speaker 3 (36:38):
I don't even know anymore around here? Is it Little League?
Is it Dixie League?
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (36:41):
I mean, cal Ripken had a league, probably still has
a league. They do a lot of tournaments.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
Now, I was going to say Dixie League for softball
a lot for the girls. Like I think a lot
of the softballs were Dixie League.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
Really yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
We hosted a lot of Dixie League World Series in
my hometown, tons.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
Of them, and my area is pretty damn good right
at softball?
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Yeah yeah, but like most of it will We did
the softball thing too, but a lot of it was baseball.
I wonder, like, is it mostly Little league?
Speaker 9 (37:03):
Now?
Speaker 3 (37:04):
This is the thing.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
These are the things that I'm like circling back to
now that my kids are getting closer in age to
being able to participate in some of this stuff. They're
not there yet, but like I didn't pay attention to
this stuff for years, you know, once I got old enough,
got to college, became an adult, didn't do nearly as
much of that stuff. But you know, now that I'm
moving back in that direction, my wife signed up my
three year old son for I think it was like
(37:26):
an I nine league earlier. Today he's three, and you know,
the Lake Norman Mom's Facebook group is being very judgy about,
you know, allowing my three year old son to play.
So screw the Lake Norman Moms group on Facebook. But
in all seriousness, like I don't know, is it mostly
Dixie League.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
I don't think so, because I remember so.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
I got my hopes too high when I was a
little kid, because when I was six seven, yeah years old, Morganton,
North Carolina got represented in the Little League World Series.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
They got to Williamsports.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
So it made me think, hey, if they can get
to it in Morganton, maybe I can do it in
Lincoln County. And it didn't help that I was a
T ball All Star that year, Humble Bragg. By the way,
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
T ball all star got snubbed in coach pitch. That's
not a thing. There were no T ball All Stars.
I was. My mom literally made it into a quilt.
I'm gonna need your mom to confirm that we finished
like second or third.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
And I mean, there's no way you were competing for
all star teams in T ball?
Speaker 3 (38:24):
Yes I was? What Yeah?
Speaker 4 (38:26):
I even got at home photo like photoproof of me
and my T ball all star getting ready for a game.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
Was it a participation all star trophy? No, you're sure.
Speaker 4 (38:35):
No, we made I was the best in our league
in Boger City, and I was able to make All
Stars in T ball. I did get stubbed from coach
Pitch All Stars because you know, a couple of the
mediocre teams coaches sons got the All Star. I was
pretty dang good out in left field as an eight
year old.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
In T ball.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Nobody could hit it out there in T ball. No
I was talking coach Pitch. Oh oh, okay, probably was
a pretty good gold Globe.
Speaker 7 (38:57):
Hey.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
By the way, kid Pitch, I was in base percentage machine.
I would have been great for Billy bean Man because
they didn't know how to pitch against lefties.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
I wish you had said that about T ball, that
you were an on base machine. I really wish you'd
said that about.
Speaker 4 (39:10):
Tea Coltually, I was eighth batter a lot, which means
I was the last batter and I had to go
get ahead inside the park home run. That was the
only way I was getting home. So but yeah, I uh, okay, Yeah,
that don't mean to cut you off.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
A lot of people saying they're still playing Dixie youth
ball around here, so I'm not surprised to hear that.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
But you know, I just don't know.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
There are certain places that are Little League affiliates, certain
places that do Dixie League, and I think those are
the two biggest, But yeah, I'm just curious what people
are doing out there. Seven oh four, five, seven oh
ninety six ten hit us up on the FanDuel text line.
Denver Justin, we played youth, Dixie youth in Lincoln County. Smoke,
that's what he said. That's what Denver Justin just said.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
Well, there's two different leagues in Lincoln County, Like you
got more to Lincolnton on Startown Road, and then you
had the Boger City.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
I trust your memory on most things. I'm gonna need
Mark and Beth Ludwig to weigh in on this to
see if you're remembering this correctly.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
As an All Star.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
Well that too, but apparently you didn't realize that you
had you played Dixie youth baseball.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
It feels Dixie.
Speaker 4 (40:08):
I'm shocked, but like, there's like two different leagues, and
then you had to go out to West Lincoln to play,
so actually three different leagues. You had the Startown Road Lincolnton,
you had the Boger City and that doesn't even get
into East Lincoln, which was starting to really grow in
the mid two thousands, and you had West Lincoln.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Yeah, all right, you say so, Now listen we have
coming up in the next segment. Connect out Roman Harper
when we come back. Two time Pro Bowler, Super Bowl champion,
former safety for the Alabama Crimson Tide, New Orleans Saints
and Carolina Panthers these days. An SEC Network analyst was
also in Canton for the Hall of Fame Game last week,
hen p Nut Tillman doing their NFL Legends Second Act
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podcast talking to retired NFL players such as themselves. We'll
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