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October 27, 2025 • 41 mins

In hour 2 of the show, the conversation turns to the RB position and how it's now time to give Rico the majority of touches, and Kyle touches on an eye-opening performance for LaMelo Ball in the nation's capital.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:22):
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Speaker 2 (00:29):
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Mike the Wolfman on the FanDuel text line said, hey, hey, hey,
the Falcons lost to Miami.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
Life is still good? All right?

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Well, yeah, when you put it that way, it was.
Andy Dalton looked his age yesterday, as did Kirk Cousins.
Falcons blown out by the Miami Dolphins. So that might
make you feel a little bit better. I heard Hoggard
say earlier today, and he's right about that. If the
Buccaneers had played anybody but the New Orleans Saints, yes,
you probably would have seen all four teams in this
division lose because nobody looked very good at all. But yeah,

(01:07):
Bucks improved to six and two, Panthers at four and four,
Falcons dropped to three and four. Saints dropped to one
and seven, so Panthers still in sole possession of second
place in the NFC South. We get to the Hornets,
We get to college football here in just a couple
of minutes as well. Eric McLain of the ACC Network.
In twenty minutes, Brian Kelly fired at LSU. Carolina loses

(01:27):
a heartbreaker to Virginia at home on Saturday. Late interception
then a goal line stop as time expired on fourth
down rather for Carolina and Bill Belichick with another salty
postgame interview as they dropped to two and five. Clearly
they're getting better defensively. That much is obvious. They're getting
better defensively, but another heartbreaker for the Heels on Saturday.

(01:48):
Let's take a couple of phone calls app State. Andrew
is up first in this segment. Andrew, what's going on?

Speaker 3 (01:52):
Buddy?

Speaker 4 (01:53):
Hey kV you know everything I've heard. I'm I chose
to go to Bar's Villa and Watchdack the other day,
my first NASCAR race ever, and it was so fun.
But man, Andy Dollon did not look good. According to
my friend who went to the game yesterday, that that
sounded like it was really bad, but hopefully versus to

(02:14):
your healthy and we can win this next one.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
Yeah, I appreciate you, Andrew Old Willy B getting the
win yesterday at Martinsville.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
How about that? Did you enjoy yourself yesterday?

Speaker 5 (02:24):
That the race manipulation wasn't off the charts? Stupid that
a guy who had no business being in a championship
four round and Joey Logano did not make the championship
for yeah, yeah, that's pretty nice. Not the best day
for spying motorsports and Carson Hosvar considering Michael mcdoalrecht as
teammate about eight laps to go. But William Byron for
as bad as that first the first two races, his

(02:47):
luck was in the round of eight.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
He he bounced back in a big way.

Speaker 5 (02:50):
And that he's not from Martinsville, but that's a home
track for him because Hendrick owns that track. And I
don't know if you've been to Martinsville Speedway over the
last ten years, but a lot at the Liberty fans
go to those races since he's a Liberty grad.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
That is true. That's a very good point. All right,
let's go back to the phone lines. Kareem, not Abdul
Jabbar is up next. Kareem, what's going on?

Speaker 3 (03:09):
Buddy?

Speaker 6 (03:11):
Man? Cat you said it been a few minutes ago
when you said the weather outside is how we're feeling today.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
Well, you know what's funny to that point? I had
a text for a minute ago. I was telling Smoke.
Somebody texted in from a five h one number, and
all I can see is like the first sentence of
his text, and then I have to click on it,
and it said KB if Bryce isn't ready for the
game this week, dot dot dot, and I was expecting
to hear something about Hendon Hooker. He said, no, do
you think we should forfeit the game against the Packers
and let some guys get healthy? So yeah, that that

(03:41):
is how people seem to feel today.

Speaker 6 (03:42):
Kareem, You're right, man, I'm getting unprepared for the game. Yesterday,
and they showed the graphic and h W recod doubt
number three in the league in Rich. They showed the
gray James Cood number four in the league in Rich
and then we get to open the kickoff in his
ain't gonna cheuemuhummed in the background, why you can't even

(04:04):
be first run we get three yards, second run, no game,
third time, third down, we threw a past Like I
can't even get mad at Andy. I can't get mad
at you. But mine it starts. It starts with the coach,
like even that presser. And I'm sure you saw what
I said while you was playing the press conference that

(04:25):
Dave Canali said, and it's like.

Speaker 7 (04:27):
Dude, I get it.

Speaker 6 (04:28):
You your first NFL head coaching job, but this is
not your first time in the NFL. It's not your
first time in sports. Anyone that played sports.

Speaker 8 (04:35):
No, yeah, you don't lose your job.

Speaker 6 (04:37):
If you get injured. But if the next man comes
up and he's the hot hand, like you got to
stay with the hot hand, we should be running him,
running Rico significantly more than we do Chuba and Chew.
It should be used. And it shouldn't be a series
by series. No, when D'Angelo and Jonathan Stewart was in

(04:57):
the backfield, they didn't do series by series. If the
Angelo was good for breaking a good twenty twenty five
yard run and then he may have another five yard
run behind it, then that brings Stu in there, and
Stuart getting with three, and then he may bust out
for fifteen. Then you bring the Angelou back like you
kept the fresh bodies in there, you kept them going.
We could have taken this theme away from the offense

(05:18):
that the Bills had. We could have saved our defense
from being on the field with those short fields with
turnovers if we just do what I simply keep saying,
runs the damn Bob.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
I hear you.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
Thank you, Karem. I appreciate the phone call, man. Yeah,
I mean, running the ball is something I thought they'd
be able to do, like Buffalo had struggled to stop
the run that they had all before today, all the
offensive line were healthy. Now you've lost three in one game.
Brady christiansen ruptured Achilles done for the year.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
That is brutal. I mean that just cost the millions
of dollars.

Speaker 5 (05:49):
I hate it for him too, just on a personal level,
because he was gonna get paid this offseason. If you
just kept playing for this year, he was gonna get
his one big contract. And that's the thing that sucks Kyle.
He has not gotten his one contract and he's at
BYU guys, so he's damn near thirty. This is going
to be his chance to get pretty good starting NFL
caliber money and now it's likely gone with being in Achilles.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
Could be I mean might honestly might benefit the Panthers
for being honest about things. Again, it could benefit the
Panthers again, I mean, I hate to look at it
that way. Yeah, it could benefit them. We had CIA operation.
Say KB, I'll be the first to admit as the
premier Bryce hater and all of Charlotte. I don't know
if you can crown yourself that there are some pretty
strong contenders. Anyway, He goes on to say Bryce clearly

(06:29):
gives us the best chance to win. I did not
give him credit enough for cloaking how bad our pass
protection is on the offensive line, and losing three starters
yesterday isn't going to help the matter. Yesterday convinced me
that this team is still broken from top to bottom.
We got beaten every aspect, and if Bryce continues to
be mediocre this year, I'm now willing to see if
he can get over the hill in year five.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
He does do a lot.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
I mean, he just the escapability, the ability to buy
time in the pocket, to run with the football win presented.
He's not Lamar, He's not cam but he can run
with the football, and he can't do those things. He
just can't. And so yes, Bryce does mask many of
those things. He's very elusive, very good at evading tackles
in the pocket. We've known that about him for a while.
Todd Bowles really highlighted that in one of the early

(07:12):
Tampa Bay matchups, something that he really admired about Bryce too.
You're right, it makes a big difference. Will is up
next on the phone lines?

Speaker 9 (07:18):
Will?

Speaker 3 (07:19):
What's going on?

Speaker 7 (07:20):
Bor's up?

Speaker 8 (07:21):
Guys?

Speaker 7 (07:22):
Wonderful show, terrible weather. Can I just say, I'm not
going to get into a rant, but I.

Speaker 10 (07:27):
Feel it coming on as I sit here and I think.

Speaker 7 (07:29):
About it, because it is frustrating. I mean, that game yesterday,
it's just it just started unraveling and it just got
out of hand and you just think, Okay, try something different,
do anything. I mean, are you telling me that Rico
just didn't even touch the ball in the second half?

(07:50):
Is that true? Is that the truth? Did that really happen?
Like he hadn't, Like he didn't even make a carry
in the second half?

Speaker 6 (07:59):
Is that how bad it was?

Speaker 7 (08:00):
I I'm having a hard time with that, and I
just I don't know what it is. But was it
a rob that got into it with the offensive lineman
for the Bills. Yes, I love that guy. I love him,
but I just like I want to see more guys
play with their hair on fire. I want to see
some excitement and somebody yelling at somebody on the sideline

(08:22):
during the game and say, guys.

Speaker 6 (08:25):
Wait the you know what up?

Speaker 7 (08:27):
And and just like I want to see that fire. No, listen,
I'm not in the locker room at half the I
don't know what's being said. I don't know if somebody's
throwing a chair, but I felt like throwing a chair. Hey,
I'm talking to you right now, and I feel like
throwing a chair. So I don't know what's going on.
And then the other thing is Dave Canal. It almost
sounds like like Hubbard was let go, like he's meant
a lot to this team, Like, what's going on there?

(08:48):
That's concerning to me? What is going on? One line?
One final point. I love it how yesterday Greg was
talking about all his boys. Hey, he gave Gastonia some love.
It would be great if you'd have mentioned my hometown, Shelby,
But holy cap, nobody in the world would know what
he was talking about if you don't know this.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
Area, well, hey, did you hear Hey? Did you hear Brandon?

Speaker 7 (09:07):
New Week? Next week?

Speaker 3 (09:07):
Hey, did you hear brand?

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Did you hear Brandon Bean give a shout out to
Shelby on Thursday of last week?

Speaker 7 (09:11):
Oh no, I want to hear the interview. I missed it.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
You have to check it out wherever you get your podcast, Apple, Spotify, Jes,
Kyle Bailey Show, download and subscribe.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
Yea, his wife's from Shelby. Gave a shout out.

Speaker 7 (09:22):
I love it, man, I love it.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
Yeah, thank you, appreciate the phone call. Man.

Speaker 5 (09:26):
When we were talking about David Well, David Thompson's technically
from from the Crest area, so that doesn't really count.
But Shelby, I mean it's produced a lot of people
in that hospital, including someone on September twenty seventh, nineteen
ninety seven.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
Yeah, yeah, the hospital I was born in. Yeah, seven
oh four five seven ninety six ten. Hit us up
on the fan duel text line. Pastor Dave said McDermott
took a page out of Lombardi's playbook, Beat a team
at what they're good at, and everything else falls apart.
When CIA Operation texted into me a second ago, and
so this team is broken from top to bottom.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
Listen.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
I appreciate maybe the admission, and I appreciate those of
you who are actually texting this in today that maybe
you know you were a little bit wayward in your
assertions last week that this passing game would just improve
with Andy out there.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
I pushed back on that. I thought it was wrong.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
I also have not sold on Bryce as the franchise
guy yet, and I have been saying that, Like we
had some jackwagon on Twitter yesterday and I shouldn't feed
the Twitter trolls. But you know, there was one guy
who responded to me. It was like a WF and
Z had us believing all week long that this was
a potential upset. Yeah, dude, I believe that the Panthers
could match up after three straight wins.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
So sue me.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
Okay, I put too much faith in Andy Dalton and
what he has left in the tank. I will wear it.
I have egg on my face, there's no doubt about it.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
But like you know, the WF and Z fan boys
telling us that Bryce is better than Andy, he just is.
Bryce Young is better than Andy Dalton, and that might
not be the bar you want to clear. It's not
the bar that any of us are looking for him
to clear long term. But the idea that Bryce wasn't
better than his thirty eight year old backup Andy Dalton
is ridiculous. It was so I appreciate people who are
you know, admitting that on the text line, but I'm

(11:03):
not using it as a way to say say, I
told you he was an awesome franchise quarterback who cannot
be criticized in any way. That's not the point any
of us have ever tried to make.

Speaker 5 (11:12):
Oh, we've criticized him a lot. You've criticized them for
the turnovers and just some of the other problems he's
never you know, he's not been even this year. I
think he's been pretty good, but he's also been kind
of underwhelming to what the expectations. We're heading it this year.
And we're not saying give him fifty million dollars side
unseen right now. But to say, like I remember Kenneth
and Bristol's like, don't give him the fifth year option? Well,

(11:32):
why would you do that? Why would you not do that?
It's just all I'm giving him the option. Yeah, I've
given him the option. That's that's free money right there, essentially.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
Yeah, that's why you I mean, so that's one of
the benefits of being a first round pick. I'm absolutely
giving him the fifth year option. I'm not saying you
have to give him fifty million dollars a year, but
to me, I'd pick up the fifth year option without
much hesitation. At this point seven oh four or five
seven oh ninety six, ten uh salty pirates saying, so
the Panthers lost by thirty one because Bryce didn't play again,
Nobody said that. What I'm telling you is they look

(12:00):
better offensively, bright I said, to start the show, Bryce
can't tackle, Bryce can't stop the run. Okay, Bryce isn't
the one committing defensive pass interference.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
But there's no question.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
Shouldn't be any question in your mind who the best
quarterback for this team is, and it ain't Andy Dalton
all due respect, Carolina. Jay's up next, Jay, what's going on?

Speaker 8 (12:17):
Yeah? Yeah, I agree with you, man, It shouldn't be
any question. Man. You know, it's as Panthers fans, we
love trying to make a backup quarterback better than the
starring quarterback.

Speaker 11 (12:26):
It's going down in history. But what I say, man, is, hey.

Speaker 8 (12:30):
We knew even if Bryce would have played, our chances
of winning the game with.

Speaker 11 (12:33):
Slim, and we're finding out who we are. We'll find
out who our identity is. And even with Rico.

Speaker 8 (12:40):
I mean, Rico played two great games. I mean, don't
get me wrong, but two.

Speaker 11 (12:44):
Great games doesn't make a season. I mean, come on, guys,
And then and then you think about it. If any
franchise should be able to handle having two backs in
the backfield, it should be us. But it seemed like
our second year head coach has no He said, that's
not the goal. That's not the goal to play play
you know, play both of them.

Speaker 8 (13:03):
Man, he better get something on his mind.

Speaker 11 (13:05):
He's a second year head coach and he got whooped
up and down the field by better coaching on yesterday.
And that's just the bottom line, guys, And he's gonna
have to get better. The coach staff is gonna have
to get better. We're a C minus seed team and
their a team.

Speaker 8 (13:20):
And we found it out today.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
Listen, and I appreciate the phone call.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
We brought up multiple times last week that Sean McDermott
was eight and no coming off a bye. We were
all concerned about that smoke made a very important observation.
I thought at the time that seven of those eight
wins had come at high Mark Stadium, not on the road.
But they came in yesterday and overwhelmed a team that
has not established a great long track record of winning,
and overtook a quarterback that looks like he's already retired,

(13:45):
just hasn't made it official yet.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
Andy Dalton's cooked. He just is.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
Yesterday was proof of that. Michael's up next, Michael, what's
going on?

Speaker 9 (13:53):
He was so fella say, I, you know, you know,
I was at the game yesterday, and I don't think
any of these is real surprising. I was east with
whatever was going to go down. Sure, And at the
end of the day, I told my son, you can't
turn the football over in the National Football League. You can't,
especially when you're seven a half point underdog. And I
thought our defense opened up pretty well, gave us opportunities,

(14:16):
but you can't turn the football over.

Speaker 8 (14:17):
Now, I don't understand.

Speaker 9 (14:18):
How the running game, and you know that the sweep
or the top crack, whatever the tweets they were running.
We'll figure out how to stop that. But we were
right there but you you know, whether that's Brice putting
the ball on the.

Speaker 8 (14:29):
Ground or throwing interceptions or them, you just.

Speaker 9 (14:32):
Can't turn the football over the National Football League, So
to be four or four if you came in to
ask me before the season, the over under in Vegas
for this team, guys is six and a half. I
want to win eight games this year. Eight. That's my goal.
Last thy wear we won five. Let's win eight and
then let's go from there. We could get better. But
other than don't want to touch on as the fans.
You know, everybody was so surprised that Bill Mosfia took

(14:54):
over our stadium. They take over eighties ninety percent.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
I don't know why. I don't.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
I don't know why people are surprised by that, Mike.
We all expected it.

Speaker 9 (15:02):
And the thing was is the tickets were all sold
before the season. You know, I could have sold mine
for two to three X, but I hold on to
them because I drive from Raleigh. I'm like, I want
to enjoy, take us I buy. But you know, but
winning cures all everybody. You win and you put a
good product in the field. People are gonna want to
see these matchups. So it didn't surprise me. But here's

(15:22):
my thing.

Speaker 8 (15:23):
What are we eleven a half.

Speaker 9 (15:24):
Point dogs going up the Green Bay.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 9 (15:27):
Let's not expect to win, guys. Let's just stop turning
the football over.

Speaker 8 (15:30):
Does One thing I'll say.

Speaker 9 (15:31):
Though, is when we lose get killed. There's no nail buyers.
The Cargos game was misleading, you know, but we get piped.

Speaker 11 (15:38):
You know.

Speaker 9 (15:39):
It's really like a field goal with the buzzer.

Speaker 8 (15:41):
That's what we do to win.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
But just go turn the football over.

Speaker 9 (15:44):
My goal now is five and five in two weeks
with the eighth coming to town with seven to play. Yep, guys,
and let's just keep doing.

Speaker 7 (15:53):
What we're doing and getting better.

Speaker 9 (15:55):
Luckily, the teams that coach quote air quotes travel well,
they all live miles away. They're gone, the Cowgirls, the Bills.
So we have the Seagulls, the yup, the eighth and
William Rare.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
Yep, fun guy, you're good. I love that call.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
Thank you, Michael. I hope Probley's treating you well. Thank you, brother.
A great, great point right there. We're going to come
back to it, but we have to hit a break.
Eric McLain, acc Network college football analyst, former Clemson Tiger
offensive lineman is back. Next Sports Radio ninety two to
seven wfn Z. All right, a lot of Carolina Panthers

(16:37):
misery on the fold lines and the text line today,
we all get it. I am not despondent. I keep
using that word. I'm not even all that angry. I
was just irritated that I thought the blowouts were behind us,
but apparently not. However, they are still four and four
through eight weeks, and this is the NFL, and I
had them as a five hundred team anyway, so they're
kind of right on track. I just wish they'd stop
taking woodshed beatings to the to some of the teams

(17:00):
from the AFC East. Maybe that's just me, Actually it's
not not. According to the text line anyway, Wide open,
five o'clock hour, coming your way. We still have to
get to the Hornets. They are two and one to
start the season. They jumped in the Athletics Power rankings
from twenty seven to eighteen following the weekend. LaMelo Ball
is apparently emerging as a vocal leader in the locker room.
That's that's the kind of thing you want to hear.

(17:21):
And unfortunately Brandon Miller got hurt in game number two,
so we'll get to all that. But also over the weekend,
Brian Kelly was fired at LSU, Carolina lost another heartbreaker
Shane Biemer and the game Cocks blew an eight point
lead with six to go against Alabama, and a whole
lot more. We'll get to a bunch of that with
Eric McClain of the ACC Network, college football analyst and

(17:42):
former Clemson Tiger offensive lineman back with us for his
Monday conversation.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
What's up, b Mac? How are you, buddy man?

Speaker 8 (17:48):
A crazy weekend. I don't know what world we think
we're freaking living in and college football, but we're just
handing out fifty million dollars paychecks left and right.

Speaker 7 (17:57):
Brother.

Speaker 8 (17:57):
It is anarchy and chaos.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
And I know I asked you about it last week,
but I do want to ask you about it again
because it's crazy and I felt it coming for a
couple of weeks. I'm not the only one, but we
can see it now. I mean, we're going to have
at least, you know, twelve to fifteen jobs open up,
and that's without getting into the after effects of guys
leaving other jobs and therefore opening those up.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
Like what is this Eric?

Speaker 2 (18:18):
Is this a new era where everybody's panicking to position
themselves for the future because of how different the sport is,
Like this is like unprecedented, right, Like what do you
think this all amounts to?

Speaker 8 (18:28):
Yeah, it certainly feels like I might have some of
our researchers dig into that, because it's just it's chaos
everywhere you look. And my biggest question too, So let's
say this is, you know, the last domino to fall,
or if there's more coming, who the heck are you
going to go? Get?

Speaker 9 (18:45):
Right?

Speaker 8 (18:46):
Like, if these you know, Marquee programs are you know
out there, these massive fish are out there, you know,
looking for their guy. Who are you going to get?
You know, what are you going to do? Like if
South Carolina makes a move, who you can get somebody
better than Shane Beamer? I don't know. I don't think so.
So I'm just so shocked by all these things, man,

(19:07):
and the continued you know, whispers that I hear throughout
and in other programs that might follow suit. So it's
a very interesting time and I don't know what to
chalk it up to. And listen at LSU I get
maybe you know the fit wasn't a thing. I never
thought it was. You know, I thought when that news broke,
which I think it took all of us by huge surprise.

(19:30):
When four years ago Brian Kelly decided to go, you know,
to LSU, I never thought that the fit made sense.
But that dude's done nothing but win ten games and
produce a Heisman. Like, it's crazy what you're getting fired
for now. And to say I get it, I mean
I kind of do. But at the end of the day, man,
when is enough? Like enough? I just don't know. And

(19:53):
if you're somebody else, how do you not look at
what they did to coach oh who was fired what
eighteen months after winning a national championship, and then the
same thing here with Brian Kelly. How do you look
at those situations and be like, hell, yeah, brother, like
I want to go there, I'm next. You just want
to check I guess. Other than that, it's crazy, great

(20:13):
it is.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
And I saw a quote from Lane Kiffin this morning
about how he never makes decisions based on money, He's
never been that way, and then at the end he
tax on You know, Jimmy Sexton hates when I say
that out loud, and I always think of Jimmy because
he represents every big, you know, heavy hitter in college football.
And Jimmy's the guy who's negotiating the buyout terms and
all of these contracts more often than not. And we are,

(20:35):
you know, throwing away tens hundreds of millions of dollars
in buyout money.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
It is rather crazy.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
Do you think though, Like with the professionalization of this
sport and it's changing the way that it is, we
don't often see NFL coaches walking away with fifty sixty
seventy million dollar buyouts. Does that start to change at
some point at the college level?

Speaker 8 (20:53):
It has to, And I honestly, I've had this conversation
you're really at the middle of last week and a
couple of times over the weekend, like the market is
going to have to reset itself. Like these administrators, schools, boards, presidents, whatever,
whoever's involved, y'all need to take a step back and
be like, hold on, now, we can't be paying people

(21:16):
fifty fricking million dollars to not coach, to not do
any I mean, that's just anarchy. It's ludicrous to agree
to that. So, you know, can the collective body come
together and be like y'all don't do it. We're not
going to do it. Nobody do. It sounds good, probably not,
but that is what needs to happen, because it's just
crazy to sit here and look at that, and you're

(21:37):
absolutely right that doesn't happen. I don't think you know
in any other you know situation here, So I don't
know how. I don't know how you figure it out,
but it's it's chaotic to be paying that much money
for nothing.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
Yeah, get rid of I will say it did happen
here in our backyard. I'm pretty sure David Tepper paid
Matt Rule like sixty million to go away. Some of
that was mitigated, of course by the Nebraska money, but
I guarantee you Dave Canal won't be walking away with
that in a couple of years if it doesn't work
out here. Eric McLain, ACC Network college football analyst, hanging
out with us here on a Monday. Virginia holds on
to beat North Carolina Saturday in Chapel Hill overtime, big interception,

(22:13):
fourth down stop for the Who's defense. I mean literally
another week and Carolina comes up just you know, depending
on how you spend it, like a inches or a
foot short. They're two and five, zero to three in conference.
But I will say, Eric, it does look like they've
made some strides defensively.

Speaker 8 (22:27):
Yeah, they look fantastic against Virginia. I mean, by far,
in a way, the best that they've looked all year.
I mean they look fast, physical, productive, you know, hitting
the quarterback making him uncomfortable. And yeah, it's unfortunate when
a team you come up that short. I did like
the decision to go for two though, you know, in
that moment you're probably gonna need a couple of two

(22:47):
point plays. Why not use your best one right now
and win it and let let's just go, let's go home,
you know, And coming up that short like it was
a great play, you know, you just would hope your
running back would extend his arm, you know a little
bit and try to get this touchdown in and he
came up a little bit short there. So you know,
krudos to them, best I've seen them. Look, didn't know

(23:09):
if we'd ever see him look like that this year.
And you know, for Virginia, I've got I got some
alarms down and off in the back. They're quiet, they're
back there, So I've got some alarms and maybe some
flags starting to wave.

Speaker 9 (23:22):
Man.

Speaker 8 (23:22):
I mean these last three weeks, three games that they
just had not looked the same team that they are
not playing complimentary football right now. They're playing like in
spite of football, like some one of the three phases
finds away. But it's not helping. It's just we just
got to do this, you know, so that they need
to get back to that running the football way more effectively.

(23:44):
Chandler Morris pushing the ball down field, you know, being
who he was. I thought he held on the ball
way too long Saturday and took a bunch of hits
that he did not need to take, So that there
needs to be kind of a collective reset for UVA.
It feels like right now.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
Eric Orgi of Tech beat up on Syracuse over the weekend.
It wasn't a win that's going to impress anybody, but
Georgia Tech is now eight to O five and Ozero
Conference number seven team in the country. I know it's
all matchup dependent, but because of the way that they play,
do you look at this team as one that you
think if they get in they're a threat and can
win a playoff game?

Speaker 3 (24:18):
Or no?

Speaker 8 (24:20):
No, absolutely, Okay, I think when you have, you know,
a guy like Haynes king Man who just needs to
be seriously in these Heisman you know contentions. Whoever you
know discusses that or talks about that. This guy had
almost four hundred yards five touchdowns by himself, you know,
against these guys, and you look at the other top
dogs you know across the country like a Ty Simpson

(24:42):
or you know Julian Sayans at Ohio State or Pavia
or you know any of these other cats that are
kind of up there. For that running he has more
total yards and scores than all of them per game.
And so it's just it's fascinating to me how you know,
people just don't want to give this guy credit when
he is truly the heart and.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
Soul of this team.

Speaker 8 (25:02):
And you know, it's funny you talk about if they
get in, can they do this? And that. I think
this year, more than ever can be where you look
at you know, how dispersed talent is. When you see
the chaos and these games that we have and a
lot of people with with losses one or more right
now that probably still will get in, it feels like
more than ever, style in the way you fight is

(25:26):
going to matter, like matchups this year more than ever
are going to matter. How teams handle situational football is
going to matter. And I don't know if there's you know,
a more prepared team from a physicality standpoint, and and
X is an O standpoint that Buster Faulkner, the offensive
coordinator for Georgia Tech presents and then just you talk
about style, gritty, tough, hard knows, you know, for sixty minutes,

(25:50):
can you can you keep up with that? I just
I don't know if people you know, can't you know
that are of equal talent. So I'm fascinated, you know,
just to see how this team handles it, how they
go forward, because they're truly rolling right now, and the
last probably big test at the end of their schedule
against Georgia is going to be very telling for what
they look like the rest of the way.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
More impressive to you at this stage of a season.
Jake Dickert guiding Wake Forest to five and two beating
SMU or the fact that pitt is quietly six and
two four in one of the acc.

Speaker 8 (26:21):
Oh man, I mean two both perceived very bad football
teams preseason, So I don't know, probably Jake Dickard probably right,
Like I thought that they were going to be really,
really bad, and they have responded amazingly. And that defense
against SMU last week was sick. I mean, guys flying

(26:42):
around the field every other play. It seemed like there's
just a swarm of Black jerseys flying around making plays,
turn forcing turnovers galore. And as much as their offense
tried to give it away, those boys fought like crazy
to ultimately put their team in the best position to
win it and they did so. Yeah, I've been thrilled
with him. He is an exceptional coach. His energy, passion,

(27:05):
you know, vision has always been something that we were
excited about. I just didn't know if he had the
guys this year to do it, and it was going
to take him some building and maybe take him another
offseason to get guys. But they are absolutely finding a way.
And yeah, I do want to touch on Pittsburgh really
quick because they are playing at such a high level
right now since that change, and you look at their

(27:25):
schedule and who they play ahead of them, having Miami,
having Georgia Tech and Notre Dame. These guys I think
could play their way into this playoff. It'll be fascinating
to see if.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
They went out.

Speaker 8 (27:39):
What the heck are we going to do with the
Pittsburgh Panthers with the strength of schedule they have coming up.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
That's a great point. Last thing, real quick, Clemson hosting
Duke this weekend. Obviously it's important for all parties involved.
Duke's trying to keep pace. I mean there's still three
and one in the ACC. What are your thoughts on
that matchup?

Speaker 8 (27:53):
Yeah, I'm terrified, disgusted. I don't want to watch, but
we got to do it, and I don't know, man,
we'll see. I mean, I have no clue what to
expect from Clemson on a week out, weekend basis. And
you know, for a Duke team that obviously had a
you know, lost the last time they played, you know,
just kind of got out physical and couldn't last a

(28:13):
full sixty minutes against you know, Georgia Tech. They're at home,
had a bye week, lick your wounds, and now you
know you had to to Clemson to face the Tigers,
who are you know, majorly struggling. I think, from again,
from a style standpoint, Duke should throw the ball all
over the yard. I think that they're going to really
try to stress and push against those safeties and kind

(28:35):
of see what SMU did, you know, and push the
ball downfield. So if Clemson hasn't healed up, if they
haven't you know, prepared accordingly, they could get embarrassed at home.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
Eric, we appreciate you as always, brother, have a great week,
stay strong. We'll talk to you next Monday.

Speaker 8 (28:50):
Appreciate you brother, having a great show.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Eric McLean, appreciate you man seven oh four five seven
ninety six ten. Hit us up on the FanDuel text line.
Also curious what people think about this. Adam Rittenberg over
at ESPN dot com this morning, I believe or did
this come out yesterday?

Speaker 3 (29:04):
Sorry?

Speaker 2 (29:04):
This was last night dropped an article ranking the current
vacant jobs in college football big.

Speaker 3 (29:11):
Were emphasis on the word current current.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
Right, there are eight Power four schools already looking for
head coaches Stanford, UCLA, Virginia Tech, Oklahoma State, Arkansas, Penn State, Florida,
and now LSU. You also have Oregon State in UAB
that are open non Power four jobs, and then more
openings could come like Kentucky, Wisconsin, Florida State. Right, we've

(29:35):
talked about those. I guess the possibility of Michigan, though
I don't know if that's still going to happen at
this point. Well, maybe not Michigan now, but Michigan State,
Michigan State possibly two. So Adam Rittenberg ranked the jobs
that are currently open in college football. LSU is the
best job in the country, he puts it, which I
obviously I think a lot of folks would would rank
LSU number one. So LSU one, Penn State two, Florida three,

(29:59):
Oklahoma State four, Virginia Tech five, Arkansas six, and then
UH Stanford seven, u c LA eight. How about that
UCLA dead last on this list. How do you feel
about that ranking? I think that's pretty fair. I think
Virginia Tech definitely could maybe be a little higher, but
could be higher than OAKAO. I think that you could
flip okanly them in Oklahoma State. Oklahoma State has deep pockets,

(30:21):
they've been there more recently, but true, Yeah, I mean
the first three Flora or LSU, Penn State, Florida. Maybe
you can quibble over the order, but I think that
most people would agree with that.

Speaker 5 (30:33):
I think most people now agree LSU's number one. Sure,
just because the amount of money, the amount of passions
you have, you are d university in that school, Like,
there's no other power for school that you have to
worry about Louisiana, and Louisiana is a pretty rich talent
based state when it comes to athletes. And by the way,
you're just a hop skipping to jump away from Texas
and not too terribly far away from Florida and George

(30:54):
as well, so you're gonna have chance to completely instantly,
uh battle for playoff spots UCLA. I have no problem
with them being at eight, just because it feels like
an impossible job to win at right now. The fact
that you're now in the big tense, you don't have
any regional rivalries outside of the USC. So yeah, But
I I also think Kyle, the teams that are going

(31:16):
to go do the best job this all season are
the teams that are kind of under the radar, and
that includes your Virginia Tech Hokies, because now now that
you know you have this many jobs opening and there's
probably more jobs coming open, not as many people are
talking about Virginia Tech and all that financial commitment they got,
and usually the sexy hires that we've seen in recent
years have not worked out.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
Look at Jake Dickard.

Speaker 5 (31:36):
No one was talking about Jake Dickard at all, and
now they're one game away from making a bowl game.
When I go back to an interview we had with
Connor O'Neill before the season, where asked, Hey, Connor, how
does the team look, what does the offense look like?

Speaker 3 (31:48):
How many? How many games do you think realistically will
they win?

Speaker 1 (31:51):
Eh?

Speaker 2 (31:52):
Yeah, that's basically wake Forest. So we got some good
responses coming in. We'll talk about this, a lot of
phone calls coming. You're we'll take you, I should say,
we'll take a lot of phone calls the rest of
the way.

Speaker 3 (32:01):
Right now, we go to smoke on the headlines. Who
is smoke? Where is smoke? Where there's smoke, there's fire.
Let's go, what's you got? All right?

Speaker 5 (32:11):
This is a neogenics college football injury report.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
Neogenics. All you have to lose is the pain.

Speaker 5 (32:17):
A big comeback win for the Texas Longhorns in start
Vegas over the weekend, but it came at a cost.
Arch Manning got hurt in overtime and he is currently
into concussion protocol. Not good for the Longhorns, and honestly,
that was coming off of Arch's best game as a
starter so far. In other news, justin Jolly the tied
end for NC State. His status is up in the

(32:39):
air right now, as he sustained a injury leg injury
during their blowout loss.

Speaker 3 (32:45):
Against the pit Panthers.

Speaker 5 (32:46):
But he was trying to pull a Greg Jennings as
he put the team on his back, hobbling to the
ENSLA with a touchdown pass when he got hurt.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
All right, well come back, we'll tell you who balled out.
We're taking phone calls the rest of the way free
for all five o'clock hour on a Monday. It's not
a victory Monday, far from it. But h Panther's still
four and four. A lot of upset fans with the
way the game went yesterday. We're talking about these college
football results and the vacancies and the coaching carousel firing up.
And we get to the Hornets as well, two and

(33:13):
one to start the season in Miami tomorrow night.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
We'll get to it all.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
Oh, and Complainer in Chief is surprised that there's no
Bill Belichick slander from smoke today. I bet we can
find some sports radio ninety two to seven w f
and Z.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
City, get on your feet.

Speaker 9 (33:41):
Hello, good protection chos for the end zone.

Speaker 5 (33:47):
Can you go to the buck He's coming on the.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
Cant back to rush running into the area. It'll pass towards.

Speaker 8 (33:57):
Uprights for.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
Stiper who balled out. Powered by High Performance real Estate
Advisors and the biggest dad gumballer of them all, Thomas L.
Rodd Go to high Performance real Estate dot com and
they'll see you at the closing table. Smoke what you
bring for the people.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
I've gotta go.

Speaker 5 (34:21):
With one LaMelo ball, thirty eight points, thirteen rebounds, thirteen
assists and a fiery halftime speech to help the Hornets
get back in the right direction, scoring eighty eight points
in the second half and blowing out the Washington Wizards.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
That happened, and we'll talk more about why here in
just a second. But I'm sticking with where I'm going
to baseball, actually because Yoshinobu Yamamoto did it again, going
the distance in a critical Game two of the World
Series on Saturday night, second complete game of the postseason,
twirled nine ins of one run ball on one hundred

(34:58):
and five pitch as the Dodgers evened up the World
Series one game apiece. Max Munsey and Will Smith going
deep in a decisive seventh inning, five to one win
for the Dodgers. And we've got Game three tonight at
Dodger Stadium, and I just can't wait. I can't wait.
That's who bald out? Are you yawning? Or did something
massive happen over there? What's going on, buddy? No, someone

(35:20):
just connected the dotts on Brian Kelly's firing. Okay, so
yesterday he got fired late yesterday. Today's to fifteen year
anniversary of the Clean Sullivan's death, declan Decklanlsullivan.

Speaker 3 (35:34):
Yeah, is death. Okay, So we.

Speaker 5 (35:36):
Got fired basically within hours of the fifteen year anniversary.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
Yeah, I mean that's that's you know, that's unfor incidents. Yeah,
that's unfortunate. Yeah, but it's just crazy.

Speaker 8 (35:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
I mean I saw Josh Pate said that Brian Kelly
checked out on LSU well before they fired him. I
don't know why he would do that. Maybe he didn't
feel welcome there anymore. I mean, it wouldn't be surprising
at all. Like he never was a great cultural fit there.
He just won at Cincinnati and then he won at
Notre Dame, so he was a winner quote unquote, uls
you wanted a winner ls you wanted to be in
the same league consistently as Nick Saban and Alabama, Kirby

(36:07):
Smart and Georgia. So they hired a proven winner in
college football. But you know, and it's not necessary always
like it used to be back in the day. Maybe
sometimes at certain spots that you know, if you were
a Northern coach coming south or a Southern coach going north,
it was going to be hard for you to acclimate
and you know, to recruit. It's a different game. The
game is national now. But you know, Brian Kelly, for

(36:28):
a lot of reasons, just never really felt like he
fit Baton Rouge Louisiana. We all know why that probably is.
I mean, he's a new Englander. It's a very different culture.
SEC culture is different. He had never, you know, been
a head coach in the Deep South in the SEC,
and I'm sure his act rubbed finn on people after
a while with their expectations his personality.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
I mean, look at where he'd been. I mean he was.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
Always Upper Midwest, Northeast, that's who he was. And he
just didn't fit. And when you don't fit and you're
not winning as many games as they pay you to win,
it's going to go south quickly, and that's what happened
with Brian Kelly.

Speaker 3 (37:02):
So I don't think he coaches next year.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
I think he finds probably a TV job and someone
will be quick and happy to hire him. So I
would expect him to be on TV next year, not
not coaching college football anywhere else. Maybe we'll see what
happens seven oh four, five, seven oh ninety six ten.
On the LaMelo thing, we'll get back to that in
the five o'clock hour. But Miles Bridges said that LaMelo
Ball went into the locker room last night in DC
at Capitol One Arena and basically told Miles he was

(37:25):
playing like a bum, which I don't think was the
word that he used. That LaMelo was apparently peeling the
paint off the walls in the locker room last night,
telling his guys they needed to play up to standard
and that they weren't playing good enough. And they followed
his lead and ended up blowing the Zards out last
night by twenty six points? Was it one thirty nine,
one thirteen?

Speaker 3 (37:43):
Yes, they finally defeated the Wizards.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
Thank you very much, Walker, mel You love to hear
that about your start point guard for a guy who
has been absolutely maligned as being immature, doesn't play serious basketball,
all about himself, not a leader. That's the kind of
stuff you want to hear about LaMelo Ball. They're two
and one. They beat the Wizards and the Nets, two
teams that probably aren't going to be great this year.
But that's exactly the kind of thing that you want

(38:08):
to hear about LaMelo Ball. Let me squeeze in a
phone call. My guy cow Herd is up next. Cow heard,
what's going on, buddy?

Speaker 10 (38:15):
You know, Yamamoto is one hell of a name.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
No, no, you got to say that. I was like
Yoshi Nobu Yamamoto.

Speaker 7 (38:22):
Yoshi Nobu Yama.

Speaker 10 (38:24):
Yeah, it's a battleship. You know, it's a battleship, right,
It used to It was a one hell of a
battleship back in the day. You know, once you reach
your forties, you either got to get into World War
two history.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
Or start smoking meats.

Speaker 8 (38:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
I think, well, I think I think that battleship was
the Yamoto. I don't think there was a Yama. I
think it was just a Yamoto or Yamato.

Speaker 10 (38:43):
I didn't expect to be correct.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
I'm sorry. I'll shut up. Now turn my mic off.
It the floor is yours.

Speaker 10 (38:51):
I get out. I thought the game yesterday really needs
to be a learning experience. You're not going to win
them all.

Speaker 7 (38:57):
That was a really ugly loss.

Speaker 10 (38:58):
We've had ugly losses in the path.

Speaker 7 (39:00):
I was telling Willie p.

Speaker 10 (39:02):
One of my favorite sayings is, you know, the best
way to avoid making mistakes is through wisdom. Best way
to gain wisdom is by making mistakes. So as long
as we see the hot hand getting said next week,
hopefully we don't get murdered by injuries. You know, some
of these guys coming back hopefully. But you know one
thing that's bugging me is we're talking about Rico. I

(39:23):
feel like I've not seen enough t Mac out there.
I don't know what he had, he almost one hundred yards,
but it just feels like they're underutilizing him. I mean,
it just seems like he wins everything. It's either his
ball or nobody's ball. Just call and see what your
take was on that.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
Yeah, I mean, he'said.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
I appreciate the phone call, and by the way, really
really enjoyed the track that you made yesterday for us.

Speaker 3 (39:44):
This man put together well, how would you characterize it?

Speaker 8 (39:47):
Like?

Speaker 3 (39:47):
Was it a hip hop song?

Speaker 2 (39:48):
An R and B song, you know, recounting the Panthers
blowout loss yesterday?

Speaker 3 (39:52):
How did you characterize that?

Speaker 10 (39:54):
Well, So I texted Willie, I said, if we're going
to do a rap this week, the only thing we
can do is Dear Mind Alma by Tupac. So so
I did it in that vein and worked with Ayi
to come up with lyrics, fed at all this stuff,
and then and then put it together and.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
Yeah, all right, well I enjoyed it, and I appreciate
the creativity. My man the cow herd checking in right there.
I mean McMillan's getting a lot of the attention from
opposing defenses. There was also some junk yardage in there
obviously too. He made a couple of big catches early
in the well, nothing really big happened for Carolina.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
Good to that place. Yeah, he made some good plays.

Speaker 5 (40:29):
I mean, the one, if you want to call it
a drop, was a fro to Andy had behind him
that was going to be near impossible to catch. So
the thing is about yesterday, receivers did their job.

Speaker 3 (40:41):
Coker. Coker had a couple of really good catches.

Speaker 5 (40:43):
It was good to see him get in the mix
and see him get more usage out of him. And
you know, I think he's getting his sea legs underneath
him after missing the first six games, so I think
that was big for him. It's just there weren't that
many opportunities because whenever there was a chance to maybe
fro to football, Dalton would choke on it and you know,
keep it for a pump ach and then it just

(41:04):
he'd be down on the ground, sacked, fumbled, or just
that at both times.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
So that was a problem yesterday.

Speaker 5 (41:12):
I can't really grade the receivers just based off what
we'd saw on TV yesterday. It wasn't like, oh my god.
The only wide receiver mistake that was really noticeable was
Excel taking two or three steps out of bounds and
then trying to get back onto the field.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
That was not ideal. No, that was frustrating. Everything about
yesterday was frustrating. And if you if you stick around,
we'll come back. We'll reset. If you missed the start
of the show, we'll give you our thoughts on a
forty to nine loss to the Buffalo Bills. We'll also
talk some hornets and this college football conversation is heating
up as well. Sports Radio ninety two to seven wf
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