July 24, 2025 • 43 mins
In the 2nd hour of the show, Kyle reacts to the biggest audio in sports with What Did You Say?!?! and Eric Mac Lain drops by to discuss some of the biggest storylines from the ACC Kickoff event.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:23):
Kickoff KB with you Flounder, Hoggard, Fitty all in attendance,
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a good time bringing you coverage of the ACC's premier
kickoff event each and every year.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Here live from uptown at the Hilton. We got Panthers
training camp talk coming your way in just a little bit.
It's a lot about college football today. That is the
case every year at this event. Obviously it's a big deal,
but again we're talking about how long this conference lasts
into the future once again, unfortunately, because of news out
of Inside Carolina on three has picked it up the
Adam Smith Report that with Steve Newmark, the incoming ad
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in twenty twenty six from the world of Nascar, but
also having worked with the SEC in the past, Adam
Smith is reporting that Carolina is among several schools that
is looking to leave the Conference, Carolina specifically aiming to
land in the SEC TC. On the FanDuel text line, says,
I've been saying it for three years now. Can we
just rip the band aid off this conference realignment stuff?
(01:20):
It's going to happen, Get it over with. Like, here's
my question, too, Like, if this entire ordeal is still
moving toward, like continuously toward you know, you know, pro football,
let's say a pro football model, will we have conferences
in six years? Like will that exist? Because I think
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a lot of us believe that at some point, if
all of this is going to pass legal muster or
be able to work in such a way that there
aren't constant lawsuits and appeals to Congress for help and
things of that nature, that the players are going to
have to be given the opportunity to collectively bargain. And
if you're doing doing that, are you collectively bargaining with
(02:02):
the SEC, the Big Ten, the Big twelve? Are you
doing it all separately? Does everybody fall under one umbrella?
And if so, is there a need for all these conferences?
Which then also begs the question, if you're Carolina, is
it too early to be talking about jumping to the
SEC in twenty thirty thirty one when we don't know
what the landscape of college football is going to look
like in four to five years. So I think there
(02:23):
are a lot of questions that play here. Again, I
don't think we know any more today simply based on
this reporting than we did, you know, months ago, or
whatever the case may be. But you know, the interesting
or the future is still up in the air for
college football.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Fitty real quick, what you got.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
I was just gonna say, you know, this is like,
this is like thanos, this is inevitable.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
It's just how quickly are we going to get to that?
Speaker 4 (02:47):
And so, But you kind of piqued my interest as
are there going to be conferences when we get to
wherever we're getting towards. You know, Adam Gold talks about
us all the time with Mack and Bone, where he
thinks there's going to be a split with football and
basketball more than I think a lot of people agree
that's the best thing for both entities. Let football do football,
let basketball do basketball. So if there's not gonna be conferences,
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are they all going to be independence that get the
schedule on their own, Like I think that's gonna be
This sport is gonna look I think so different. Oh yeah,
but when we're wherever we're at in twenty thirty five,
like it's gonna be it's gonna be so different from
where we are right now, where we're going to be
in five years. And I think it. I do think
it's it's it's exciting to be a part of. Like
if you love college football, because when we deal with
(03:29):
all the crap it sucks, Saturdays are Saturdays. They're still
the most holy thing we have in sports, sure, and
I don't think that's going to change as we move
into this new this new.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
Era of college football.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
I a lot of texts coming in on this. First
of all, Bicycle Hurt says, you can't use Marvel quotes
with KB.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Yeah, he's got a point on that. You don't know Thanos.
I know the name Thanos. I know that.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
I know it's a thing, it's a person. Or you
just new to this, Josh, does Stanos have a hammer?
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Is that the guy? No, that's Store. Who's Stanos?
Speaker 4 (03:57):
He's the guy that snapped and made half the world
go away? What an Avengers endgame? Maybe the biggest cultural
event of our lifetime.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
You may as well be speaking Mandarin Chinese to me
right now.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
I mean, look, it's one thing for mac and bone
not to be in this because I don't think they're
just like, you're sophisticated enough to understand and appreciate superheroes.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
I like early when I was younger, like some of
the really early superhero movies, Like I watched Spider Man.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
He's an Avenger.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Like I like Robert Downey Jr. He's Iron Man. Right.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
So, like the first one of those was fine, But
like when they kept making them, I was like, I'm good.
I don't need anymore. I'm fine. I don't think they're
all that like this, you know what, never mind, it's
a whole thing. I'm not interested. I don't care about them.
But you and I, you and I are on the
same page on plenty of things, like Tombstone.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Yes, like we agree.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Yesterday Mac was talking out loud about Cowboy Boots, and
it's like, bro, if you haven't even seen the movie Tombstone,
you can't even consider buying Cowboy boots. You just can't
do that. So you and I have plenty that we
agree on. But the whole Marvel DC thing, I'm as
I'm as lost as it gets, So just just don't
even try to make it a thing. But I curious
real quick. But in terms of conference realive it, Clemson
and Florida State what happens with the because those two
(05:05):
have been the ones that have been saber rattling more
than anybody in the last couple of years about getting
out and you know what the conference, the future is
going to be and everything else. I think Clemson, I've
thought this for a while. I think Clemson, if they
end up anywhere, they're more likely to end up in
the Big Ten. Are the SEC at this point? Probably
the same for Florida State, I would imagine.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
I agree with you.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
What I think is interesting is do they end up
where everyone thought they were gonna end up when this
all started back in twenty eleven, KB, I remember being
in high school and having legitimate conversations about Clemson and
Florida State going to the Big twelve, right like is
they're a world where even the Big Ten doesn't see
a value in a Clemson, they don't see a value
in Florida State, and they end up in a Big
twelve that has been you know, it's done a really
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good job from a conference that was getting poached and
we all thought was going to die. Brett, you were
much doing a really good job salvaging that conference, and
it's it's a fun, competitive conference in both football and basketball.
So that's what I think is interesting because I think, yeah,
Clemson and Florida State, I think they want the SEC
and who doesn't. But the SEC doesn't want them because
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they don't need them because you've already got a South
Carolina fan base that is just as enthusiastic as the
Clemson fan base says. You've gotten to Florida that can
compete for a national championship. So I think you'll be
interesting with those two schools that have wanted to force
their way out of this Where do they Where do
they go? Because they're not valued like maybe a Carolina
or in your case of Virginia Tech.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Yeah, we'll see. I mean that's the other thing. I mean,
we've talked about it. I think the SEC would love
to be in both of those states. Which two do
they want? You know, who do they take to the others?
You know what happens to NC State?
Speaker 5 (06:33):
Do they the American?
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (06:35):
All right, you know what you just you're just You're
the last person I want to hear from on NC State.
By the way, Dave Dorn coming up at five twenty
five later today, so stick around for that. Eric McLain
at about fifteen minutes. Still plenty to get to. But
right now we got to go to smoke with the
best audio in sports.
Speaker 6 (06:50):
What did you say? You?
Speaker 3 (06:52):
What? What did you say? Wait a minute? Sit may
way what I mean by that? All right, smokey? What
you got over there? Buddy? All right?
Speaker 7 (07:04):
Well, ever since Bill Belichick has taken a job in
Chapel Hill, we've talked about a lot of other stuff
involving his job at Chapel Hill and not the football.
Earlier today at acc ME D Days, he was almost
serious x him talking to Roddy Jones, and he talked
about one of the things he likes most about being
in the game of college football as compared to the NFL.
Speaker 8 (07:24):
In college you just have more time to train the players,
and you have more practice reps because you have more players,
so you can run more plays in practice, and you
have a more extended training period so you can improve
your strength, speed, explosion, body composition, things like that. We've
seen tremendous growth in those areas.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
In the NFL.
Speaker 8 (07:44):
It's a short off season of training. It's only really
four weeks and then you're into OTAs, which is not
really training. It is, but it is, and it's really
more of running plays and learning the system that kind
of thing, more than it is like strength and conditioning work.
So in college there's a lot more upton to do that,
(08:04):
and there's more plays in practice, so there's more teaching
on the field, less meeting time in the classroom, and
a lot of players like that they'd rather be on
the field than sitting in a classroom.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
See that.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
That's interesting because obviously he's right about that. But they're
also younger players who are still learning the game in
a lot of ways, so they need that time. And
I'd say that simply to say, you know, what difference
does it make?
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Sounds really good. I don't mean it that way. I
just mean, like what impact.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yeah, you have more time to coach these guys up,
they also need to learn and be developed more than
the pro guys do. So like what impact truly will
Bill Belichick's knowledge and his background have on this team,
and especially right away? Like will we see a team
that takes the field Week one against TCU and is
working with precision? Like I don't mean the way they'll
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look in week six, seven, eight. But you know, will
they look crisp? You know, will the Bill Belichick effect
be evidence in Carolina's play week one, week two, especially
against Charlotte, which, by the way, I saw earlier today
that Charlotte's getting set to release tickets to the public.
I think based on a post that I saw, that
place is going to be just a rocket in week two.
But you know, will the Bill Belichick effects be evident
(09:16):
on the field the first couple of weeks because we
all assume, as you know, arguably the greatest coach of
all time, as I've pointed out a couple of times.
You know, people expect him to win the coaching battle,
you know, most weeks because of who he is. Will
that play itself out on the field with his team?
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Smoke? What else you got? All Right?
Speaker 7 (09:32):
Moving on to the NFL, specifically here in Charlotte as
well to Carolina Panthers. Dave Canalis talked to the media
earlier today after the second practice, and we talked about
some of the interesting sexy battles this training camp, but
we haven't gotten down and dirty talking about in trenches,
specifically the battle at center. As Dave Canalis broke down
how the reps will be distributed, at least early on
(09:54):
in training camp.
Speaker 9 (09:55):
Yeah, I think we're just gonna let them both kind
of play it out and alternate days with who goes
with Bryce. That chemistry matters, you know, how the whole
group works, with communication and all those things. We're looking
at all of it and we're going to evaluate it,
you know. And again, I love competition. I love asking
guys to bring their best. They don't have to go
above and beyond who they are, but it requires all
(10:16):
of you. You know, when you're in a competition, you
know there's good you know, depth within your position.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Oh an interior offensive live position battle. This is right
up Roman Harper's alley. Shout out Roman Harper. God, he
loves him some interior offensive live But I hope he's
out there.
Speaker 10 (10:29):
List.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
But in all seriousness, like how smoke, How intrigued are
you by this?
Speaker 7 (10:36):
I'm intrigued because cade May's actually played pretty well last year, right,
that's it, that's true. I mean remember he did a
great job against Dexter Lawrence in Germany, which is no
small feed. So that's where I kind of like, hey,
you know, Austin Corbett, he's good on the field, but
he's been hurt a lot over the last couple of
years unfortunately. Right, But Caide Mays didn't really think much
of him last year, in fact, he got cut by Carolina.
(10:56):
But it comes back here and it's actually not that
bad good last year. So that's really where the intriguing
thing is. If you were to ask me right now,
I'd say it's Corbett's job to lose, Okay, but it's
not like cade Mays's chop liver. You know, I'd agree
with that, and I would assume that it's not I mean,
I don't know that this isn't like a competition where
loser leaves town, right, you know what I mean, Like,
(11:18):
if you don't win the starting center battle, they're not
gonna cut whoever loses, I assume. So like either way,
it feels like you're going into the season with two
guys who can play a really important position at a
very high level. Like this is one of those things
that we characterize is not a bad problem to have, right,
In fact, it's a really good problem to have. Yeah, oh, definitely, yes, right,
(11:42):
I mean, I just I don't know, man, Like I'm
trying I keep finding myself, and I know it's a
product of what we do because we're our heads are
in it every single day of the week. But like,
I'll be mowing the grass or you know, doing something
around the house, and I'll start thinking about the Panthers
and position battles and the offensive line and all the
reasons that I can and should be excited about this team,
(12:03):
And then I start thinking, what ways am I going
to be let down this year?
Speaker 3 (12:07):
You know?
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Am I overstating their ability to be highly competitive? Are
their position groups that I'm you know, putting too much
faith into, and like specific to the offensive line, just
like the concern that, okay, they're all back and they
were a good unit last year and so that likely
means they'll be good again this year, but that's also
not a guarantee smoke. So, like, I guess what I'm
(12:29):
saying is to hear that there's a real position battle
between May's and Corbett at center. Underscores the depth of
talent that's there, and I guess should also reassure us
that things might just be okay on the offensive line again,
which is not something that Panthers fans are accustomed to
believing year over year that much, I think is accurate.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
What else you got? All right?
Speaker 7 (12:47):
Moving on to the defensive line. Turk Wharton was one
of the big signings for to Carolina Panthers this off season.
He comes from a championship culture in Kansas City, and
he was asked during his press conference earlier today, was
the culture different and possibly similar to what it was
in case?
Speaker 11 (13:04):
I'll say that I think every team around the league
wants to win, you know, so the culture that coach
rebuilt over there is something that you know, he's known for,
not just with them, but the Eagles on and you know,
coach Canal has come from cultures of winning as well.
So I think we starting to build in the right
direction and all the guys are buying into what the
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coaches want. So the culture is definitely going to change.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
I mean, talking seasons almost overspoke. This is the kind
like this is the kind of stuff where I listened
to it and I'm like, we are so close to
finding out the truth, and like I've done this long enough,
and I think you have too at this point that
you know, you know, the things that are are simple,
I don't know, not blusters the wrong word, but it's
just they're kind of hollow until we get a look
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and see what is truly going on out there on
the field.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Like, but was that? Hold on, did I hear that? Right?
Was that the spriteburger thing? No, that's next.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Okay, that's what Okay, I want to make sure I did. Okay,
there's a little bit of a cut out there. Anyway,
I'm having a little bit of a headset issue, real quick, smoke.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Hold on, all right, all right, we're good.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Sorry about that. It's the first time I've ever had
to do that on the air. All right, anyway, go
ahead and play the next one. I think I got
it fixed now.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
All right.
Speaker 7 (14:22):
Well, Jake Dickert experienced his first a SEC media days yesterday,
but his comments were not the stuff that stole the
headlines for Wake Forest. It was his start running back
Desmond Claiborne, who revealed that he has a little bit
of an secret ingredient when it comes to making hamburgers.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Hey, yeah, dinner at his crib. And I didn't know
that he puts he soaks his burgers.
Speaker 5 (14:44):
In sprite before he cooks them.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Huh.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
I guess it's a Wisconsin thing.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Yeah, and spry, I guess it's a Wisconsin.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Yeah, why I say something else? How was Oh? It
was great. It was great. Coach Dicker could get he
could cook some is now?
Speaker 6 (15:03):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (15:04):
How did how does one stumble into marinating burgers and
sprite he had to have accidentally? Is there an origin
story there that I'm not I should have looked this
up by now because I heard this audio today.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
I mean, who who stumbled onto that? Did?
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Did somebody just spill a bottle of sprite? That has
to be it?
Speaker 7 (15:22):
Like my mom makes coca cola port chops where she
puts the coca cola like into seasonings. I forget exactly
what she does, but it's not that noticeable.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
But okay, is it very so?
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Apparently the acidity and the carbon the carbonation helps break
down the proteins, making it more tender and a.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Juicy or burger. Right Is that good? Though?
Speaker 6 (15:47):
Like?
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Do you want your proteins broken down? I'm just not.
I'm not a nutritionous so I don't know.
Speaker 7 (15:51):
So this is before they cook it, by the way,
So this is when it's still raw. Okay, my fault
process was doesn't that make the burgers more soggy?
Speaker 3 (16:00):
That's what I'm kind of thinking.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Well, no, yeah, yeah, I mean, I guess it depends
on how long you have to how long you marinate
them for. Has anybody ever done this out there? On
the text line? Does anybody? I can't imagine that anybody
out there? Maybe one person. You want you get a
lemon lime flavored burger. Look, here's like because when people
cook with bourbon, you can taste the bourbon in things.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Absolutely, are you.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Eating a lemon lime flavored cheeseburger? Because I gotta be honest,
it does not sound good to me.
Speaker 7 (16:27):
It's like two things that are good on they're separate
and by themselves, but when you add them together, it
just doesn't work.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Okay, Okay, that's what did you say? The best audio
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And keeping with the fine tradition of WFNZ listenership, I
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could give you the hottest, most refined football take that
I have to offer, and it gets some response that
if I bring up Sprite Marinate for Hamburg, it turns
into a free for all.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
The FanDuel text line.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Eric McLain of the ACC Network, former Clemson Tiger, is
on set with us here Jake Dickert, Wake Forest. It's
a thing, right, he says, it's a Wisconsin thing, which
I am finding that Wisconsin people don't necessarily sign off on.
Speaker 6 (17:40):
Exactly My dms were flooded from wisconsinites. I didn't even
know I had this many friends from Wisconsin saying no, no,
we don't do that. So this is a coach Dickard
thing and we're gonna leave it to that.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
And I truly have to believe that this was stumbled
onto somebody fell into a bottle of sprite accidentally dumped
it onto a plated burger. Damn good lemon lime cheeseburgers.
Not that not bad, not bad. I don't believe it.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Are you gonna try it? Hell?
Speaker 4 (18:06):
No?
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Yeah, same, No, it sounds terrible. I'm good on all
that now.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
I also, you know, I have to give a little
bit of a hard time to our friend here, Will
Palatchikhui and listen.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
I don't I don't even talk.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
I haven't even talked to Will about this this morning,
but the Morning show made it a thing. You know,
Will is bragging to our our buddy Josh over here
this morning, but.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
He leg presses four hundred and seventy pounds. Well.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
In addition to being an ACC network analyst and former
Clemson Tiger, you also host multiple podcasts, one of which
is a strengthened conditioning based podcast which is fairly new.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Feel free.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
No, no, it's awesome, feel free to plug away all that,
But give your assessment of a late thirties man bragging
about leg pressing four hundred and sevens.
Speaker 6 (18:45):
Okay, so that was gonna be my first questions?
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Old, why he's not let's get replayed tomorrow?
Speaker 6 (18:51):
Was he saying he's single leg pressed four hundred not
bock both leg both sticks?
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Yeah? Bro, keep that to yourself. It's not fun. That's
not cool.
Speaker 6 (19:03):
Next time I'm in Charlotte. We can work out together.
We'll work on that. Okay, we'll put at least uh,
you know, seven eight nine before we start telling anybody
that we're doing it.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Work in darkness and then shine later. Yes, my type
of thing.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Okay, So just for for the point of reference with
the guys out there, then we'll talk some actual football.
Uh you're a big beefy man. Yeah, I know you.
You get after in the weight room, you do it everything.
Back squad, what what's what's your max?
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Right now?
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Right now?
Speaker 6 (19:27):
Better question prop four O five? Like I'm not you know,
I don't need to do more than that. You want
to you want to preserve thee yeah, because I mean,
you know it is a little dangerous, but I mean
leg press, I mean a thousand plus pounds, That's what
I said. Because it's safer, it's different, you know it
is for seventy though. Cool, that's sick, dude. Hey, he's
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working out though. I'm proud of him for working out.
Let's swing this back around. Keep going. There's a lot
of room to grow. We're proud of you for working out.
That's that's a big deal. And I was even gonna
make this a big deal. But that guy right here
and he put me up to it, so anyway, I
didn't want to ask you about something else too. There
is a report out and we're gonna call it that
from Inside Carolina on Threes picked it up that the
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tar Heels are amongst several schools aiming to get out
of the ACC and land in the SEC. My perspective
on this is that, all due respect to those guys,
I don't know what's new about that report.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
What do you think? Well water's wet? Yeah cool? So
is everybody else.
Speaker 6 (20:27):
I don't know if there's no more other if there's
no further details or like, like, is Greg sinky?
Speaker 2 (20:32):
He?
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Is he here somewhere? The rafters doing the deal?
Speaker 4 (20:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Sure, great? Why not? Why wouldn't you explore that it's
just good business? Yeah? Cool?
Speaker 6 (20:42):
I don't think there's anything else to it. And like
I said, who's not exploring that?
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:47):
I mean, Looksten, I my response to that the last
couple of years has been the ACC just needs to
be better as the football conference, and I think that
that will solve most of its problems. I don't know, Like,
how deep do you think this conference runs this year?
How many good teams are in the ACC Well, you know.
Speaker 6 (21:00):
It's interesting, you know, talking with a lot of these
head coaches, a lot of said, we feel as good
as we have since maybe twenty nineteen. That's a long time,
twenty twenty five. And for them to say they feel
the best that they have since then is pretty substantial.
And again, I think what's interesting, more interesting about this
is you look around the entire country Ohio State, new quarterback, Georgia,
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new quarterback, Alabama, new quarterback, Notre Dame, new quarterback, Texas,
Like there's some turnover happening, and there's some advantage to
be taken of, and can you win when it's a
down year? I mean, all still very good arts Manning
is at Texas, high expectations for him from a lot
of different people, so on and so forth, all those
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teams I mentioned. But if you're an experienced team that
has a quarterback and has other guys around you, do
you feel pretty good? So I think the top is
pretty clear. The Tigers. I think there's a gap there
just because of the knowns and unknowns. Miami maybe a
slight gap, maybe not with s some of you Louisville,
I like Georgia Tech a lot, maybe more than others.
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And then after that, you're looking out of Pittsburgh. Can
they stand up? They have a lot of talent back,
got a quarterback back. N C State being really slept
on right now, dude, being really slept on right now.
You know, teams of that nature. Syracuse very hard schedule.
It's just unfortunate timing for them, I think. But there's
some depth and there's some fun quarterback play in this league.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
And specific to Miami, you know, Camp Moore's off to
the NFL. Carson becks there now. I know Carson can play,
like we've seen evidence of that at Georgia.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
I don't know that.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
I'm a real listen, I'm never a believer in Miami
if I'm being honest about things, but like, I know
they'll be good. Like, how what do you think Carson
Beck achieves in the ACCIX?
Speaker 6 (22:43):
Yeah, Well, the interesting thing is at this point in
time a year ago, he was the number one overall pick, right,
he was deemed the guy, and so you know, can
you get back to that? And I think there was
a lot of reasons for that at Georgia last year.
A lot of drops maybe the most or some of
the most in the entire country. The injury, of course,
and you know, maybe just trying to force things a
little bit too much, which we see quarterbacks do, try
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to be superman when you don't have to be. How
can you move on from that? And really, to be honest,
I don't think he fit at Georgia at all. I mean,
this is a guy driving a Lamborghini.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
In Athens.
Speaker 6 (23:16):
They one f one fifties from their quarterbacks. Miami, they're
cool with Lambeau. So it's fit wise, you know, I
think there's something to that. And hearing it from his teammates,
hearing from his coach that you know, he's a leader
and he's been doing this, and that we didn't hear
that from Georgia. You're hearing it now. Whether it's all
fabricated or not, we'll see. But I think there's some
juice there. There's some uncertainty with the pass catchers, right, Like,
that's a big deal. Six of your best are gone, Yeah,
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you know, either transferred, moved on to the NFL or whatever.
But the biggest thing is your offense and defensive line
should be amongst the best in the country, right And
and you should be able to dominate relatively every game
you play there, if you play to your full ability,
the run games should be sick from Miami. So those
three things I know to be true. It's kind of
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the fluff around it. How good can Miami be? Mario
Crista Ball has done nothing but Bill five seven ten,
what's next? It's time to compete for championships.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Eric McClain acc network with us here on set. A
couple of quick things. I'll let you go. You know,
I was in the Bill Belichick press conference a couple
of hours ago. I've been in a lot of those,
and you hear about the fullback. I did hear about
the full But you know, I've been in a lot
of press conferences.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Most of them don't stand out. That one did.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Kind of felt like a big show trial, Like, you know,
hundreds of people in the room. All of a sudden,
he and the players walk in, A hush comes over
the crowd. I think there was just this kind of
disbelief that we're looking at Bill Belichick, head coach of
the North Carolina tar Heels. Then you get him on
the set, looked like it went well. What do you
think of his demeanor, his presence, and what he said
about his team.
Speaker 6 (24:43):
Yeah, you know, I didn't know what to expect from him,
right because you see this hard dude for his entire
career that you know, halfway answers questions to the media,
doesn't like doing media, doesn't want any part of it.
Now we're forcing him, you know, to forcing him, you know,
to be here and to do that.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
And he smiled.
Speaker 6 (24:59):
He he was funny, He had great answers, had great stories,
and you know, I think at the end of the day,
it's our job as analysts, as talent to get that
out of him. You know, if you historically know the
guy doesn't like it, will ask questions that will get
him to like it, and you know, try to lean
into that, make good TV, make a great first impression.
And I think we accomplished that. And to be able
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to talk about coaching with his sons, to be able
to talk about getting into college football, which apparently has
been a dream of his forever. You know, his dad
coaching at Navy for fifty years, growing up for a
college football coach's son, you know, so just fun things
about that. And really, at the end of the day,
this dude has seventy new players, he's had a brand
new place. Who the heck even if he told us
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he's lying, he doesn't know. He has no clue, right,
and maybe not lying, but he just doesn't know. So
it's gonna be we're all gonna find out at the
same time, Monday night in front of the whole world,
you know, Monday night football there as TCU comes to town.
You feel bad for Sunny Dyke's a little bit. He's
in this now a couple of times in a row
with Colorado and now with these guys, so it's it's
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going to be intriguing. But you know, I'm excited to
see what they're able to do. And you know, it's
cool that he's here. It's good for the league that
he's here. There's clearly a lot of attention. You know,
ESPN's like creating a show to go to that game,
which is super unique for our league, and it's a benefit.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
It is now.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Last thing, you know, I was here Tuesday morning as
you were, for Jim Phillips opening address, and he's urging
the other conferences leaders to adhere to the new rules,
to the new system, which is still kind of coming
together right right, but that House settlement that twenty and
a half million dollars. Everybody has this allotted amount of
money that they can spend. The guys we have to
spend it and no more because we can't undermine this system.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Do you believe that?
Speaker 2 (26:42):
And then factoring in the College Sports Commission and Brian
Sealy and all these things, like, do you think we're
nearer to you know, uniformity in some way?
Speaker 6 (26:48):
Well, you got that twenty and a half million, and
then a new court case came out yesterday or the
day before saying that you can still pay from outside
third party resources. So there is no rules. It's the
wild wild West. There's nothing that you can do. There's
no uniformity at all. And it's unfortunate, right because you
want everybody to play by the same rules, and so
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how do you get there?
Speaker 3 (27:10):
You know?
Speaker 6 (27:10):
Is it a baby NFL? Is it a whole new division?
I don't know, but I do not like that. We
have different things by state, we have different things by conference,
we have different things by team. And let's play by
the same rules and let's have enforceable, actionable punishments.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
You know.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
I was funny.
Speaker 6 (27:28):
We were talking with Bill o'brant, like, we have all
these NFL coaches now, it's hilarious in the acc and
talking with him and he said, you know, there's real
ramifications if you go outside of the rule book in
the NFL that doesn't exist here.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
What's the enforcement?
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Who?
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Okay? Great? What happens? And so draft picks? You know
what I mean? Y?
Speaker 6 (27:46):
So it's uh, we're in a weird spot. Hopefully we
figure it out. Can the NCAA do it?
Speaker 4 (27:51):
Know?
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Who will it be? That's what I'm interested to see.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
This really isn't an in depth question, but the most
swagger of any head coach so far this week, it
has to go to Brent Key, right, my god, a suit.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Yeah. The next is the great, the great shat dude.
Really it's like one hundred thousand dollars watch stop. Yeah man,
really that dude, he says, I'm a redneck with money.
What do you expect? Have you seen this truck?
Speaker 6 (28:13):
No, one hundred thousand plus dollar truck. I mean, this dude,
he's living the life we all wish we had. Oz
swag swag, the chains, the bracelets, the watch ray gator.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Yeah. Man, he's a badass.
Speaker 6 (28:26):
There's very few coaches that if I ever stop this,
what I want to coach Dabo Sweeney, him red Lashly
is short list. There may be a couple of others,
but that's the short list of guys I'd be interested in.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Well, you former offensive lineman. Have to be especially proud
to him, you know, him and Mario doing a service
here for us in the league. I love it.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Hey, Eric McLain acc network former Clemson Tiger with us
Mondays in the football It's him and Steve Smith. We're
city on Mondays. I've bat like bad company. Why would
you not be here every Monday for that?
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Thank you? Brother, appreciates you always, Eric McLain, He'll be.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
With us here in a couple of weeks when college
football gets fired up. With us here on radio Row
seven oh four, five, seven oh ninety six ten, hit
us up on the FanDuel text line your thoughts. A
lot of folks sending condolences to Willie P after Eric
body bagged him a couple of minutes ago. Regarding the
leg press, I want to claim I had nothing to
do with it, but I guess I did ask the question,
So I'm sure Willy P's gonna be upset with me,
(29:18):
but I need Willy to know if he's out there listening.
This was once again all instigated by Josh Fitty Marlowe,
So I hope you're willing to take full accountability for that, Josh,
this is all you.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
I mean.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
Look, you know that I am. You did a terrific job.
And I've already let Mack and Bone know we have
audio of him getting ripped by eMac.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
So it's gonna get replayed and.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Look it, I know it will Only WILLI p.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Could brag about something so minuscule and then get offended
for being ripped a boy for seven I was doing
two twenty five when I was thirteen.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Oh lord, okay, listen. I'm more interested in just the
relationship between How often are you two texting each other
and just ripping into each other, like how often? How
frequently throughout the day, or you too just roasting one another?
Speaker 5 (29:58):
Well you know that he referred to himself as my stepfather?
Speaker 3 (30:02):
No I was unaware.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
Yeah, yeah, he refers to himself as my step dad.
So I talk to Willie no lie every day. There's
not a no, there's not a single day where I
do not hear from Willy. Whether it's directly or in
the Mets group chat. I have contact with Wolpo Logic
every single day, and this is just the nature of
our relationship. We fight, I bring to him, I bring
light what he says, he gets a mad. We go
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eat pastrami, and all's right in the world.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Right, go see?
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Because Will and I have a very professional, cordial relationship.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
What's that like? It's great? I love it.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
We don't fight about things like you two do. Willy
and I just enjoy each other's company and we're together.
You two go at at each other's throats. I enjoy
the chaos though. Well that that Truer words have never
been spoken on this radio station. All right, seven oh
four five, seven ninety six ten, hit us up on
the FanDuel text like Catfish. Gumby wants to know if
if Bill was wearing a hoodie at the press conference.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
He was not. He was suited and booted.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
I am very curious to know what the sideline attire
will be.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
Will it be the cutoff hoodie? Vetter? Be that you
want it?
Speaker 5 (31:00):
I bought one, that's right, you did, so he'd better
be there. And to cut off Fuddy with a couple
of holes in it.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
I want you to cut it up halfway so with
a crop top cut off hoodie. That's what I really want.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
But I'm not cropping anything except my gut.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Like that's what I want.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
I want the gut hang it out, That's what I want,
you know, kind of like the crop top cut off
that goes under the shoulder pads when you're playing. I
want you to have that hoodie style so that you
can walk around just rubbing your belly when you're walking
down the hallway.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
What I should have asked iMac while we had him,
if if if from one bald man to a balding man, Yeah,
if I should go on home?
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Why because I can't go on home and shape that.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
Yeah, because like he has to look down. I think
I want to try to bald head with the with
the nice man and see, I think you'd pull it
off just fine. I maybe going in the other direction. No,
I mean I don't. I'm not bald.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
I've got the finally at the top of like the
yamica area on the top of my head here that
is there's.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Nothing offensive, Like what is it?
Speaker 5 (31:58):
What did you make that face?
Speaker 3 (31:59):
For him?
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Try to describe for people who can't see me a
bald spot, right, I got a little bit of balts.
I gets starting to develop finally in the last two
or three years, and my wife's been giving me a
hard time. I may or may not be getting an
opportunity to do a hair restoration experiment to see if
it works. And I have never ever in my life
like coveted that, but I'm willing to try it because
my wife has been ruthlessly picking on me lately that
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it's finally happening, so I may allow them to experiment
on the top of my head to see if they
can regrow my hair on top the thing I've always.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
Been worried about with, like the hair restoration projects right
as I grow hair in other places. Okay, I didn't
say where on my back.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
No listen, I'm in the hairy back club, man, I
get it. I got angel wings on my back.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
Isn't it the worst?
Speaker 5 (32:43):
And like when it starts getting long en, that's where
it starts itching. That's the absolute worst feeling in the world.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
I've once told my wife on the about a decade
ago on the beach, I saw like an old time
where he's like seventy five years old, I mean, just
a hairy gorilla of a man and like the hairs
sprouting out of his collared shirt out the front and
the back. And I said, I aspire to be that
man one day, right, And so yeah, I've always wondered
do the hair restoration products do they accelerate hair growth
on your back too?
Speaker 3 (33:11):
That's a great point.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
That's my biggest fear because I already got like, I
guess it's a carpet of back hair, don't I don't.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
I don't need a rug back there.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
McConkey says, you're killing me, k B. I thought I
was good to be at thirty four and no signs
of bald. And yet I'm sorry, bro, Like I walked
under a security camera like three years ago and saw
it after the fact that I was like what, oh, oh, whoa,
what's going on there? And so you know, I rock
a hack quite a bit and I don't really care.
But my wife is like, hey, you're going bald finally.
So I'm like, you know, I'm gonna show you, lady.
Look at Flounders bond spot.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
I like it.
Speaker 5 (33:42):
It's there.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
I like it, it's prevalent, It's okay, you know what.
I don't know why. You just you're nasty to everybody.
Seven O four five seven ninety six ten. Hit us
up on the fan duel text line right now we
go to smoke on the headlines.
Speaker 7 (33:55):
Yeah, Fiddy insists upon himself. Uh, that's what he does
right now? All right, anyway, you're talking, you're kind of
talking about this with Eric Kyle.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
We're talking about what I'm so lost in all over
the play? What was I talking about?
Speaker 7 (34:08):
Apparently in in the last twenty minutes, President Donald Trump
has signed an executive order that will prohibit third party
pay for play payments and directs the Secretary of Labor
in the National Labor Relations Board to clarify that athletes
are amateurs and not employees. According to the White House,
the NCAA and Power five leaders have long pursued congressional
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action on Capitol Hill, most recently with the introduction of
the Score Act in the House. Co sponsors of the
Score Act include seven Republicans and two Democrats, which gives
to bill a fair chance of passage in the House.
It would at least need seven Democratic votes in the Senate,
where its chances are viewed as slim.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Right now, Yeah, I was gonna say, I mean you
talked about appeals for congressional help.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
This isn't that.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
This is an executive order. I know there's more out there,
don't get me wrong, but like, does this face immediate
legal challenge? Does this make an impact? It's it's really
hard to say. I don't know. That's interesting though. We'll
come back. We'll tell you Who balled Out. The executive
director of the College Football Playoff, Rich Clark, coming up
at five o'clock and if five twenty five state fans
stick around. Dave Dorian at five twenty five Sports Radio
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Speaker 7 (36:15):
I got to go with to catcher for the Boston
Red Sox, Carlos nervaiaz two of five from the plate,
including a crucial clutch two run homer into top of
the eleventh in extras to give the Socks a nine
to eight win over to Phillies and avoiding a sweep.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
I'll go with Willie Pea's quads.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
A four hundred and seventy pound leg press has been
the topic of conversation the Hottest Today on w wefn
Z Willipe's quads bawling out. I just wanted to get
to the next conversation. I'm sorry, Willy p all right
seven oh four, five, seven oh ninety six to ten
hit us up on the fan duel text line. Hulk
Cogan died today at the age of seventy one, and
I have you know, I'm pretty open about it. I've
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not been a wrestling fan, certainly not in the way
that Smoke and and Wes hoggored Hoggard like, not the
way those guys are, So you know, I'm I'm one
of the last in the building to jump into any
wrestling conversations about raw or WrestleMania or ae W versus.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
The WWA or any of that stuff.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
But I did grow up on hul Cogan, you know,
man born by the name Terry Bulla for those that
may not know, but you know, the Hulkster truly an American.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
Original.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Let's say, I think you could even call him an
American icon in many ways, complicated legacy to be sure,
loved by many, not so much by many others, but
gone at seventy one.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
And it's I don't know, smoke.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
It's hard to believe because when I brought this up
earlier in the show, I got the people automatically who
you know, were saying rip hull Cogan, you know, others
saying that you know, I wasn't a very good guy.
So I'm not going to pretend to eulogize him in
that way. And so you know, you get that stuff
on the text line. But I mean, this is still
a major loss. And I know we framed it earlier
in the show, like Malcolm Jamal Warner and Ozzy Osbourne
(37:56):
and you know, hul Cogan. Now this kind of thing
does seem to come. Three is Chuck MANGIONI also passing
away yep earlier today, So I want to mention that too,
But I don't know, Like, how are you a diehard,
lifelong wrestling fan thinking today about the passing of arguably
the biggest name of the history of professional wrestling wrestling?
Speaker 3 (38:15):
Is it even arguable?
Speaker 7 (38:16):
Yo, It's no, I don't He's like easily top five
and probably top three at the very least.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Who's even in your mind who could make the case
that they're the bigger name in wrestling that HULKGA.
Speaker 7 (38:28):
Maybe Stone Cold Steve Austin, but Stone Cold was not
on top as long as Hogan was. Stone Cold's career
on top was relatively short all things considered, because his
neck injuries really hurt back into his career. His peak
was like from late ninety seven to two thousand, two
thousand and one. Hogan was on top of the business.
(38:49):
Kyle from nineteen eighty four until ninety nine two thousand,
once WCW started going downhill. Yeah, and even then he
had a nostalge run into WWE in two thousand and
two and he got the title again. So we're talking
about something that spans nearly eighteen years of Hulk Hogan
being on the top of his game, you know, being
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a top draw, being a name that really gets people
to put butts in their seats and watch them wrestling.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
He got a lot of people into the door.
Speaker 7 (39:17):
He talked a lot of people into the door, and
he got a lot of people to care about wrestling.
And he was the reason, one of the main reasons
why the WWE had the boom period that they had.
If Vincent mann was not able to get Hulk Hogan
back in nineteen eighty three and verne Gania never let
him go into Awa, who knows what wrestling would look like.
(39:38):
It could still be in some cases a territorial wrestling
promotion type.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
You know.
Speaker 7 (39:44):
The booms table would have helped it still, especially with
Turner having Georgia Championship Wrestling, then World Championship Wrestling in
mid Atlantic Championship Wrestling.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
But I don't know if.
Speaker 7 (39:54):
It would have ever gotten as big as it did
if it wasn't for Hok Hogan, because you got to
remember they brought they brung it up on the Vincent
mann documentary last year, but Vincent mannon mortgaged his whole
entire life savings on WrestleMania One. Yeah, that was headlined
by Hulk Cogan and Mister T taking on Roddy Piper
and Paul Orndor Well Cowboy Bob Orton Rings.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Yeah, I'm glad you mentioned that documentary, and that was
one of those things that I remembered, was like that,
you know, his rise to superstardom, the the Iron Sheet
match in nineteen eighty four, and yeah, the whole Commania movement.
You know, it was built on you know, patriotism and
you know that larger than life charisma and you know
his catchphrase, what You're gonna do when whole.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
Camania runs wild on you?
Speaker 4 (40:37):
Brother?
Speaker 3 (40:38):
Like you know, all the things that we know about him.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
So I mean, like that that as a movement, his
growth as a persona as a brand, There's just not
much that compares to it in the history of sports
and entertainment, that last word, of course being the operative
and most important phrase when we talk about pro wrestling.
But you know, you had that growth, that build up,
and then of course ninety six in w c W
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he famously turns heel into hollywoodhul Cogan, co founder of
the New World Order, you know, in wo Left for Life,
I mean, a storyline that rebooted pro wrestling and sparked
the Monday Night Wrestling Wars. You know, he kind of
redefined the wrestling anti hero in that way. That was
a gut punch. I know you weren't even born yet,
(41:21):
but I remember watching that as a kid.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
Well he was not the anti hero. He was the heel.
Sting was the anti hero.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
Well, okay, fair enough, but I remember watching that as
a kid live and being like heartbroken almost. I mean
I was ten years old, so I didn't know any better,
but I watched that live when it happened and thinking,
oh my god, like the guy who you know, this
the Holkster, the guy who drapes himself in the red,
white and blue. You know, the guy who's in all
the commercials. I mean, I carried a hul Cogan lunchbox
to school when I was in elementary school. I've got
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pictures of it as a kid, and I remember being like,
my worldview was shaken. But that night when Hull Cogan
became Hollywood Hogan and became the heel and then of
course I got people on the text line saying he was.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
A bad guy. He was an ardent racist, he was this,
he was that.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
I mean, yeah, he was removed from the WWE in
the Hall of Fame rather in twenty fifteen after racist remarks.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
Surfaced from a tape in two thousand and eight.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
That's right, and he would publicly apologize. He was reinstated
in twenty eighteen. So I'm fully aware of all those things.
I watched his you know, reality show for a while there.
I forget how old I was when it came out.
Speaker 7 (42:23):
That was two thousand and five ish, yeah, because remember
it ended around the time his son Nick got arrested.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was nineteen when that came out. Yeah,
I mean, just his life, man, think about this, I mean, listen,
let's be honest. The steroids, the surgeries, all of it.
It truly is one of the most insane, bizarre, entertaining, interesting,
nuanced careers, personas public lives that any of us have
ever taken in as fans or consumers of sports and entertainment.
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And then go back to the original discussion and we'll
come back to this. But, like, you know, is he
the biggest name in the history of wrestling? Is he
bigger than The Rock? Is he bigger than John Cena?
Is he bigger than Stone Cold Rick Flair? A guy who,
by the way, outlived hul Cogan, Like who thought that
was gonna happen. So somehow he's outlived hul Cogan. So yeah,
I mean, is Hulk Hogan the largest name in the
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history of wrestling?
Speaker 3 (43:15):
I think he is.
Speaker 7 (43:17):
And if we're just talking wrestling, yeah, and worldwide appeal
based on wrestling, you'd be pretty hard pressed to find
anyone bigger. Now, there are guys that like The Rock
that have gone on to have bigger careers outside of wrestling,
and Hulk Hogan's career outside of wrestling did not go well.
Like his biggest movie appearances were where he was a
bit player, like Rocky three and Trimmers. Uh not Trimmors,
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but oh gosh, what was the movie with the case Book?
Speaker 2 (43:44):
We got to step aside real quick. Let's hit a
break real fast. Richard Clark, the new executive director of
the College Football Playoff, will join us on the other side.
Speaker 3 (43:50):
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Speaker 2 (00:35):
Here live from uptown at the Hilton. We got Panthers
training camp talk coming your way in just a little bit.
It's a lot about college football today. That is the
case every year at this event. Obviously it's a big deal,
but again we're talking about how long this conference lasts
into the future once again, unfortunately, because of news out
of Inside Carolina on three has picked it up the
Adam Smith Report that with Steve Newmark, the incoming ad
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in twenty twenty six from the world of Nascar, but
also having worked with the SEC in the past, Adam
Smith is reporting that Carolina is among several schools that
is looking to leave the Conference, Carolina specifically aiming to
land in the SEC TC. On the FanDuel text line, says,
I've been saying it for three years now. Can we
just rip the band aid off this conference realignment stuff?
(01:20):
It's going to happen, Get it over with. Like, here's
my question, too, Like, if this entire ordeal is still
moving toward, like continuously toward you know, you know, pro football,
let's say a pro football model, will we have conferences
in six years? Like will that exist? Because I think
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a lot of us believe that at some point, if
all of this is going to pass legal muster or
be able to work in such a way that there
aren't constant lawsuits and appeals to Congress for help and
things of that nature, that the players are going to
have to be given the opportunity to collectively bargain. And
if you're doing doing that, are you collectively bargaining with
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the SEC, the Big Ten, the Big twelve? Are you
doing it all separately? Does everybody fall under one umbrella?
And if so, is there a need for all these conferences?
Which then also begs the question, if you're Carolina, is
it too early to be talking about jumping to the
SEC in twenty thirty thirty one when we don't know
what the landscape of college football is going to look
like in four to five years. So I think there
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are a lot of questions that play here. Again, I
don't think we know any more today simply based on
this reporting than we did, you know, months ago, or
whatever the case may be. But you know, the interesting
or the future is still up in the air for
college football.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Fitty real quick, what you got.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
I was just gonna say, you know, this is like,
this is like thanos, this is inevitable.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
It's just how quickly are we going to get to that?
Speaker 4 (02:47):
And so, But you kind of piqued my interest as
are there going to be conferences when we get to
wherever we're getting towards. You know, Adam Gold talks about
us all the time with Mack and Bone, where he
thinks there's going to be a split with football and
basketball more than I think a lot of people agree
that's the best thing for both entities. Let football do football,
let basketball do basketball. So if there's not gonna be conferences,
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are they all going to be independence that get the
schedule on their own, Like I think that's gonna be
This sport is gonna look I think so different. Oh yeah,
but when we're wherever we're at in twenty thirty five,
like it's gonna be it's gonna be so different from
where we are right now, where we're going to be
in five years. And I think it. I do think
it's it's it's exciting to be a part of. Like
if you love college football, because when we deal with
(03:29):
all the crap it sucks, Saturdays are Saturdays. They're still
the most holy thing we have in sports, sure, and
I don't think that's going to change as we move
into this new this new.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
Era of college football.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
I a lot of texts coming in on this. First
of all, Bicycle Hurt says, you can't use Marvel quotes
with KB.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Yeah, he's got a point on that. You don't know Thanos.
I know the name Thanos. I know that.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
I know it's a thing, it's a person. Or you
just new to this, Josh, does Stanos have a hammer?
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Is that the guy? No, that's Store. Who's Stanos?
Speaker 4 (03:57):
He's the guy that snapped and made half the world
go away? What an Avengers endgame? Maybe the biggest cultural
event of our lifetime.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
You may as well be speaking Mandarin Chinese to me
right now.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
I mean, look, it's one thing for mac and bone
not to be in this because I don't think they're
just like, you're sophisticated enough to understand and appreciate superheroes.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
I like early when I was younger, like some of
the really early superhero movies, Like I watched Spider Man.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
He's an Avenger.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Like I like Robert Downey Jr. He's Iron Man. Right.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
So, like the first one of those was fine, But
like when they kept making them, I was like, I'm good.
I don't need anymore. I'm fine. I don't think they're
all that like this, you know what, never mind, it's
a whole thing. I'm not interested. I don't care about them.
But you and I, you and I are on the
same page on plenty of things, like Tombstone.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Yes, like we agree.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Yesterday Mac was talking out loud about Cowboy Boots, and
it's like, bro, if you haven't even seen the movie Tombstone,
you can't even consider buying Cowboy boots. You just can't
do that. So you and I have plenty that we
agree on. But the whole Marvel DC thing, I'm as
I'm as lost as it gets, So just just don't
even try to make it a thing. But I curious
real quick. But in terms of conference realive it, Clemson
and Florida State what happens with the because those two
(05:05):
have been the ones that have been saber rattling more
than anybody in the last couple of years about getting
out and you know what the conference, the future is
going to be and everything else. I think Clemson, I've
thought this for a while. I think Clemson, if they
end up anywhere, they're more likely to end up in
the Big Ten. Are the SEC at this point? Probably
the same for Florida State, I would imagine.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
I agree with you.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
What I think is interesting is do they end up
where everyone thought they were gonna end up when this
all started back in twenty eleven, KB, I remember being
in high school and having legitimate conversations about Clemson and
Florida State going to the Big twelve, right like is
they're a world where even the Big Ten doesn't see
a value in a Clemson, they don't see a value
in Florida State, and they end up in a Big
twelve that has been you know, it's done a really
(05:44):
good job from a conference that was getting poached and
we all thought was going to die. Brett, you were
much doing a really good job salvaging that conference, and
it's it's a fun, competitive conference in both football and basketball.
So that's what I think is interesting because I think, yeah,
Clemson and Florida State, I think they want the SEC
and who doesn't. But the SEC doesn't want them because
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they don't need them because you've already got a South
Carolina fan base that is just as enthusiastic as the
Clemson fan base says. You've gotten to Florida that can
compete for a national championship. So I think you'll be
interesting with those two schools that have wanted to force
their way out of this Where do they Where do
they go? Because they're not valued like maybe a Carolina
or in your case of Virginia Tech.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Yeah, we'll see. I mean that's the other thing. I mean,
we've talked about it. I think the SEC would love
to be in both of those states. Which two do
they want? You know, who do they take to the others?
You know what happens to NC State?
Speaker 5 (06:33):
Do they the American?
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (06:35):
All right, you know what you just you're just You're
the last person I want to hear from on NC State.
By the way, Dave Dorn coming up at five twenty
five later today, so stick around for that. Eric McLain
at about fifteen minutes. Still plenty to get to. But
right now we got to go to smoke with the
best audio in sports.
Speaker 6 (06:50):
What did you say? You?
Speaker 3 (06:52):
What? What did you say? Wait a minute? Sit may
way what I mean by that? All right, smokey? What
you got over there? Buddy? All right?
Speaker 7 (07:04):
Well, ever since Bill Belichick has taken a job in
Chapel Hill, we've talked about a lot of other stuff
involving his job at Chapel Hill and not the football.
Earlier today at acc ME D Days, he was almost
serious x him talking to Roddy Jones, and he talked
about one of the things he likes most about being
in the game of college football as compared to the NFL.
Speaker 8 (07:24):
In college you just have more time to train the players,
and you have more practice reps because you have more players,
so you can run more plays in practice, and you
have a more extended training period so you can improve
your strength, speed, explosion, body composition, things like that. We've
seen tremendous growth in those areas.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
In the NFL.
Speaker 8 (07:44):
It's a short off season of training. It's only really
four weeks and then you're into OTAs, which is not
really training. It is, but it is, and it's really
more of running plays and learning the system that kind
of thing, more than it is like strength and conditioning work.
So in college there's a lot more upton to do that,
(08:04):
and there's more plays in practice, so there's more teaching
on the field, less meeting time in the classroom, and
a lot of players like that they'd rather be on
the field than sitting in a classroom.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
See that.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
That's interesting because obviously he's right about that. But they're
also younger players who are still learning the game in
a lot of ways, so they need that time. And
I'd say that simply to say, you know, what difference
does it make?
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Sounds really good. I don't mean it that way. I
just mean, like what impact.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yeah, you have more time to coach these guys up,
they also need to learn and be developed more than
the pro guys do. So like what impact truly will
Bill Belichick's knowledge and his background have on this team,
and especially right away? Like will we see a team
that takes the field Week one against TCU and is
working with precision? Like I don't mean the way they'll
(08:53):
look in week six, seven, eight. But you know, will
they look crisp? You know, will the Bill Belichick effect
be evidence in Carolina's play week one, week two, especially
against Charlotte, which, by the way, I saw earlier today
that Charlotte's getting set to release tickets to the public.
I think based on a post that I saw, that
place is going to be just a rocket in week two.
But you know, will the Bill Belichick effects be evident
(09:16):
on the field the first couple of weeks because we
all assume, as you know, arguably the greatest coach of
all time, as I've pointed out a couple of times.
You know, people expect him to win the coaching battle,
you know, most weeks because of who he is. Will
that play itself out on the field with his team?
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Smoke? What else you got? All Right?
Speaker 7 (09:32):
Moving on to the NFL, specifically here in Charlotte as
well to Carolina Panthers. Dave Canalis talked to the media
earlier today after the second practice, and we talked about
some of the interesting sexy battles this training camp, but
we haven't gotten down and dirty talking about in trenches,
specifically the battle at center. As Dave Canalis broke down
how the reps will be distributed, at least early on
(09:54):
in training camp.
Speaker 9 (09:55):
Yeah, I think we're just gonna let them both kind
of play it out and alternate days with who goes
with Bryce. That chemistry matters, you know, how the whole
group works, with communication and all those things. We're looking
at all of it and we're going to evaluate it,
you know. And again, I love competition. I love asking
guys to bring their best. They don't have to go
above and beyond who they are, but it requires all
(10:16):
of you. You know, when you're in a competition, you
know there's good you know, depth within your position.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Oh an interior offensive live position battle. This is right
up Roman Harper's alley. Shout out Roman Harper. God, he
loves him some interior offensive live But I hope he's
out there.
Speaker 10 (10:29):
List.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
But in all seriousness, like how smoke, How intrigued are
you by this?
Speaker 7 (10:36):
I'm intrigued because cade May's actually played pretty well last year, right,
that's it, that's true. I mean remember he did a
great job against Dexter Lawrence in Germany, which is no
small feed. So that's where I kind of like, hey,
you know, Austin Corbett, he's good on the field, but
he's been hurt a lot over the last couple of
years unfortunately. Right, But Caide Mays didn't really think much
of him last year, in fact, he got cut by Carolina.
(10:56):
But it comes back here and it's actually not that
bad good last year. So that's really where the intriguing
thing is. If you were to ask me right now,
I'd say it's Corbett's job to lose, Okay, but it's
not like cade Mays's chop liver. You know, I'd agree
with that, and I would assume that it's not I mean,
I don't know that this isn't like a competition where
loser leaves town, right, you know what I mean, Like,
(11:18):
if you don't win the starting center battle, they're not
gonna cut whoever loses, I assume. So like either way,
it feels like you're going into the season with two
guys who can play a really important position at a
very high level. Like this is one of those things
that we characterize is not a bad problem to have, right,
In fact, it's a really good problem to have. Yeah, oh, definitely, yes, right,
(11:42):
I mean, I just I don't know, man, Like I'm
trying I keep finding myself, and I know it's a
product of what we do because we're our heads are
in it every single day of the week. But like,
I'll be mowing the grass or you know, doing something
around the house, and I'll start thinking about the Panthers
and position battles and the offensive line and all the
reasons that I can and should be excited about this team,
(12:03):
And then I start thinking, what ways am I going
to be let down this year?
Speaker 3 (12:07):
You know?
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Am I overstating their ability to be highly competitive? Are
their position groups that I'm you know, putting too much
faith into, and like specific to the offensive line, just
like the concern that, okay, they're all back and they
were a good unit last year and so that likely
means they'll be good again this year, but that's also
not a guarantee smoke. So, like, I guess what I'm
(12:29):
saying is to hear that there's a real position battle
between May's and Corbett at center. Underscores the depth of
talent that's there, and I guess should also reassure us
that things might just be okay on the offensive line again,
which is not something that Panthers fans are accustomed to
believing year over year that much, I think is accurate.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
What else you got? All right?
Speaker 7 (12:47):
Moving on to the defensive line. Turk Wharton was one
of the big signings for to Carolina Panthers this off season.
He comes from a championship culture in Kansas City, and
he was asked during his press conference earlier today, was
the culture different and possibly similar to what it was
in case?
Speaker 11 (13:04):
I'll say that I think every team around the league
wants to win, you know, so the culture that coach
rebuilt over there is something that you know, he's known for,
not just with them, but the Eagles on and you know,
coach Canal has come from cultures of winning as well.
So I think we starting to build in the right
direction and all the guys are buying into what the
(13:26):
coaches want. So the culture is definitely going to change.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
I mean, talking seasons almost overspoke. This is the kind
like this is the kind of stuff where I listened
to it and I'm like, we are so close to
finding out the truth, and like I've done this long enough,
and I think you have too at this point that
you know, you know, the things that are are simple,
I don't know, not blusters the wrong word, but it's
just they're kind of hollow until we get a look
(13:54):
and see what is truly going on out there on
the field.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Like, but was that? Hold on, did I hear that? Right?
Was that the spriteburger thing? No, that's next.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Okay, that's what Okay, I want to make sure I did. Okay,
there's a little bit of a cut out there. Anyway,
I'm having a little bit of a headset issue, real quick, smoke.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Hold on, all right, all right, we're good.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Sorry about that. It's the first time I've ever had
to do that on the air. All right, anyway, go
ahead and play the next one. I think I got
it fixed now.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
All right.
Speaker 7 (14:22):
Well, Jake Dickert experienced his first a SEC media days yesterday,
but his comments were not the stuff that stole the
headlines for Wake Forest. It was his start running back
Desmond Claiborne, who revealed that he has a little bit
of an secret ingredient when it comes to making hamburgers.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Hey, yeah, dinner at his crib. And I didn't know
that he puts he soaks his burgers.
Speaker 5 (14:44):
In sprite before he cooks them.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Huh.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
I guess it's a Wisconsin thing.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Yeah, and spry, I guess it's a Wisconsin.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Yeah, why I say something else? How was Oh? It
was great. It was great. Coach Dicker could get he
could cook some is now?
Speaker 6 (15:03):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (15:04):
How did how does one stumble into marinating burgers and
sprite he had to have accidentally? Is there an origin
story there that I'm not I should have looked this
up by now because I heard this audio today.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
I mean, who who stumbled onto that? Did?
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Did somebody just spill a bottle of sprite? That has
to be it?
Speaker 7 (15:22):
Like my mom makes coca cola port chops where she
puts the coca cola like into seasonings. I forget exactly
what she does, but it's not that noticeable.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
But okay, is it very so?
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Apparently the acidity and the carbon the carbonation helps break
down the proteins, making it more tender and a.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Juicy or burger. Right Is that good? Though?
Speaker 6 (15:47):
Like?
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Do you want your proteins broken down? I'm just not.
I'm not a nutritionous so I don't know.
Speaker 7 (15:51):
So this is before they cook it, by the way,
So this is when it's still raw. Okay, my fault
process was doesn't that make the burgers more soggy?
Speaker 3 (16:00):
That's what I'm kind of thinking.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Well, no, yeah, yeah, I mean, I guess it depends
on how long you have to how long you marinate
them for. Has anybody ever done this out there? On
the text line? Does anybody? I can't imagine that anybody
out there? Maybe one person. You want you get a
lemon lime flavored burger. Look, here's like because when people
cook with bourbon, you can taste the bourbon in things.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Absolutely, are you.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Eating a lemon lime flavored cheeseburger? Because I gotta be honest,
it does not sound good to me.
Speaker 7 (16:27):
It's like two things that are good on they're separate
and by themselves, but when you add them together, it
just doesn't work.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Okay, Okay, that's what did you say? The best audio
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And keeping with the fine tradition of WFNZ listenership, I
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could give you the hottest, most refined football take that
I have to offer, and it gets some response that
if I bring up Sprite Marinate for Hamburg, it turns
into a free for all.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
The FanDuel text line.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Eric McLain of the ACC Network, former Clemson Tiger, is
on set with us here Jake Dickert, Wake Forest. It's
a thing, right, he says, it's a Wisconsin thing, which
I am finding that Wisconsin people don't necessarily sign off on.
Speaker 6 (17:40):
Exactly My dms were flooded from wisconsinites. I didn't even
know I had this many friends from Wisconsin saying no, no,
we don't do that. So this is a coach Dickard
thing and we're gonna leave it to that.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
And I truly have to believe that this was stumbled
onto somebody fell into a bottle of sprite accidentally dumped
it onto a plated burger. Damn good lemon lime cheeseburgers.
Not that not bad, not bad. I don't believe it.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Are you gonna try it? Hell?
Speaker 4 (18:06):
No?
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Yeah, same, No, it sounds terrible. I'm good on all
that now.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
I also, you know, I have to give a little
bit of a hard time to our friend here, Will
Palatchikhui and listen.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
I don't I don't even talk.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
I haven't even talked to Will about this this morning,
but the Morning show made it a thing. You know,
Will is bragging to our our buddy Josh over here
this morning, but.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
He leg presses four hundred and seventy pounds. Well.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
In addition to being an ACC network analyst and former
Clemson Tiger, you also host multiple podcasts, one of which
is a strengthened conditioning based podcast which is fairly new.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Feel free.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
No, no, it's awesome, feel free to plug away all that,
But give your assessment of a late thirties man bragging
about leg pressing four hundred and sevens.
Speaker 6 (18:45):
Okay, so that was gonna be my first questions?
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Old, why he's not let's get replayed tomorrow?
Speaker 6 (18:51):
Was he saying he's single leg pressed four hundred not
bock both leg both sticks?
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Yeah? Bro, keep that to yourself. It's not fun. That's
not cool.
Speaker 6 (19:03):
Next time I'm in Charlotte. We can work out together.
We'll work on that. Okay, we'll put at least uh,
you know, seven eight nine before we start telling anybody
that we're doing it.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Work in darkness and then shine later. Yes, my type
of thing.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Okay, So just for for the point of reference with
the guys out there, then we'll talk some actual football.
Uh you're a big beefy man. Yeah, I know you.
You get after in the weight room, you do it everything.
Back squad, what what's what's your max?
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Right now?
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Right now?
Speaker 6 (19:27):
Better question prop four O five? Like I'm not you know,
I don't need to do more than that. You want
to you want to preserve thee yeah, because I mean,
you know it is a little dangerous, but I mean
leg press, I mean a thousand plus pounds, That's what
I said. Because it's safer, it's different, you know it
is for seventy though. Cool, that's sick, dude. Hey, he's
(19:49):
working out though. I'm proud of him for working out.
Let's swing this back around. Keep going. There's a lot
of room to grow. We're proud of you for working out.
That's that's a big deal. And I was even gonna
make this a big deal. But that guy right here
and he put me up to it, so anyway, I
didn't want to ask you about something else too. There
is a report out and we're gonna call it that
from Inside Carolina on Threes picked it up that the
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tar Heels are amongst several schools aiming to get out
of the ACC and land in the SEC. My perspective
on this is that, all due respect to those guys,
I don't know what's new about that report.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
What do you think? Well water's wet? Yeah cool? So
is everybody else.
Speaker 6 (20:27):
I don't know if there's no more other if there's
no further details or like, like, is Greg sinky?
Speaker 2 (20:32):
He?
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Is he here somewhere? The rafters doing the deal?
Speaker 4 (20:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Sure, great? Why not? Why wouldn't you explore that it's
just good business? Yeah? Cool?
Speaker 6 (20:42):
I don't think there's anything else to it. And like
I said, who's not exploring that?
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:47):
I mean, Looksten, I my response to that the last
couple of years has been the ACC just needs to
be better as the football conference, and I think that
that will solve most of its problems. I don't know, Like,
how deep do you think this conference runs this year?
How many good teams are in the ACC Well, you know.
Speaker 6 (21:00):
It's interesting, you know, talking with a lot of these
head coaches, a lot of said, we feel as good
as we have since maybe twenty nineteen. That's a long time,
twenty twenty five. And for them to say they feel
the best that they have since then is pretty substantial.
And again, I think what's interesting, more interesting about this
is you look around the entire country Ohio State, new quarterback, Georgia,
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new quarterback, Alabama, new quarterback, Notre Dame, new quarterback, Texas,
Like there's some turnover happening, and there's some advantage to
be taken of, and can you win when it's a
down year? I mean, all still very good arts Manning
is at Texas, high expectations for him from a lot
of different people, so on and so forth, all those
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teams I mentioned. But if you're an experienced team that
has a quarterback and has other guys around you, do
you feel pretty good? So I think the top is
pretty clear. The Tigers. I think there's a gap there
just because of the knowns and unknowns. Miami maybe a
slight gap, maybe not with s some of you Louisville,
I like Georgia Tech a lot, maybe more than others.
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And then after that, you're looking out of Pittsburgh. Can
they stand up? They have a lot of talent back,
got a quarterback back. N C State being really slept
on right now, dude, being really slept on right now.
You know, teams of that nature. Syracuse very hard schedule.
It's just unfortunate timing for them, I think. But there's
some depth and there's some fun quarterback play in this league.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
And specific to Miami, you know, Camp Moore's off to
the NFL. Carson becks there now. I know Carson can play,
like we've seen evidence of that at Georgia.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
I don't know that.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
I'm a real listen, I'm never a believer in Miami
if I'm being honest about things, but like, I know
they'll be good. Like, how what do you think Carson
Beck achieves in the ACCIX?
Speaker 6 (22:43):
Yeah, Well, the interesting thing is at this point in
time a year ago, he was the number one overall pick, right,
he was deemed the guy, and so you know, can
you get back to that? And I think there was
a lot of reasons for that at Georgia last year.
A lot of drops maybe the most or some of
the most in the entire country. The injury, of course,
and you know, maybe just trying to force things a
little bit too much, which we see quarterbacks do, try
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to be superman when you don't have to be. How
can you move on from that? And really, to be honest,
I don't think he fit at Georgia at all. I mean,
this is a guy driving a Lamborghini.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
In Athens.
Speaker 6 (23:16):
They one f one fifties from their quarterbacks. Miami, they're
cool with Lambeau. So it's fit wise, you know, I
think there's something to that. And hearing it from his teammates,
hearing from his coach that you know, he's a leader
and he's been doing this, and that we didn't hear
that from Georgia. You're hearing it now. Whether it's all
fabricated or not, we'll see. But I think there's some
juice there. There's some uncertainty with the pass catchers, right, Like,
that's a big deal. Six of your best are gone, Yeah,
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you know, either transferred, moved on to the NFL or whatever.
But the biggest thing is your offense and defensive line
should be amongst the best in the country, right And
and you should be able to dominate relatively every game
you play there, if you play to your full ability,
the run games should be sick from Miami. So those
three things I know to be true. It's kind of
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the fluff around it. How good can Miami be? Mario
Crista Ball has done nothing but Bill five seven ten,
what's next? It's time to compete for championships.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Eric McClain acc network with us here on set. A
couple of quick things. I'll let you go. You know,
I was in the Bill Belichick press conference a couple
of hours ago. I've been in a lot of those,
and you hear about the fullback. I did hear about
the full But you know, I've been in a lot
of press conferences.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Most of them don't stand out. That one did.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Kind of felt like a big show trial, Like, you know,
hundreds of people in the room. All of a sudden,
he and the players walk in, A hush comes over
the crowd. I think there was just this kind of
disbelief that we're looking at Bill Belichick, head coach of
the North Carolina tar Heels. Then you get him on
the set, looked like it went well. What do you
think of his demeanor, his presence, and what he said
about his team.
Speaker 6 (24:43):
Yeah, you know, I didn't know what to expect from him,
right because you see this hard dude for his entire
career that you know, halfway answers questions to the media,
doesn't like doing media, doesn't want any part of it.
Now we're forcing him, you know, to forcing him, you know,
to be here and to do that.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
And he smiled.
Speaker 6 (24:59):
He he was funny, He had great answers, had great stories,
and you know, I think at the end of the day,
it's our job as analysts, as talent to get that
out of him. You know, if you historically know the
guy doesn't like it, will ask questions that will get
him to like it, and you know, try to lean
into that, make good TV, make a great first impression.
And I think we accomplished that. And to be able
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to talk about coaching with his sons, to be able
to talk about getting into college football, which apparently has
been a dream of his forever. You know, his dad
coaching at Navy for fifty years, growing up for a
college football coach's son, you know, so just fun things
about that. And really, at the end of the day,
this dude has seventy new players, he's had a brand
new place. Who the heck even if he told us
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he's lying, he doesn't know. He has no clue, right,
and maybe not lying, but he just doesn't know. So
it's gonna be we're all gonna find out at the
same time, Monday night in front of the whole world,
you know, Monday night football there as TCU comes to town.
You feel bad for Sunny Dyke's a little bit. He's
in this now a couple of times in a row
with Colorado and now with these guys, so it's it's
(26:02):
going to be intriguing. But you know, I'm excited to
see what they're able to do. And you know, it's
cool that he's here. It's good for the league that
he's here. There's clearly a lot of attention. You know,
ESPN's like creating a show to go to that game,
which is super unique for our league, and it's a benefit.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
It is now.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Last thing, you know, I was here Tuesday morning as
you were, for Jim Phillips opening address, and he's urging
the other conferences leaders to adhere to the new rules,
to the new system, which is still kind of coming
together right right, but that House settlement that twenty and
a half million dollars. Everybody has this allotted amount of
money that they can spend. The guys we have to
spend it and no more because we can't undermine this system.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Do you believe that?
Speaker 2 (26:42):
And then factoring in the College Sports Commission and Brian
Sealy and all these things, like, do you think we're
nearer to you know, uniformity in some way?
Speaker 6 (26:48):
Well, you got that twenty and a half million, and
then a new court case came out yesterday or the
day before saying that you can still pay from outside
third party resources. So there is no rules. It's the
wild wild West. There's nothing that you can do. There's
no uniformity at all. And it's unfortunate, right because you
want everybody to play by the same rules, and so
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how do you get there?
Speaker 3 (27:10):
You know?
Speaker 6 (27:10):
Is it a baby NFL? Is it a whole new division?
I don't know, but I do not like that. We
have different things by state, we have different things by conference,
we have different things by team. And let's play by
the same rules and let's have enforceable, actionable punishments.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
You know.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
I was funny.
Speaker 6 (27:28):
We were talking with Bill o'brant, like, we have all
these NFL coaches now, it's hilarious in the acc and
talking with him and he said, you know, there's real
ramifications if you go outside of the rule book in
the NFL that doesn't exist here.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
What's the enforcement?
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Who?
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Okay? Great? What happens? And so draft picks? You know
what I mean? Y?
Speaker 6 (27:46):
So it's uh, we're in a weird spot. Hopefully we
figure it out. Can the NCAA do it?
Speaker 4 (27:51):
Know?
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Who will it be? That's what I'm interested to see.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
This really isn't an in depth question, but the most
swagger of any head coach so far this week, it
has to go to Brent Key, right, my god, a suit.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Yeah. The next is the great, the great shat dude.
Really it's like one hundred thousand dollars watch stop. Yeah man,
really that dude, he says, I'm a redneck with money.
What do you expect? Have you seen this truck?
Speaker 6 (28:13):
No, one hundred thousand plus dollar truck. I mean, this dude,
he's living the life we all wish we had. Oz
swag swag, the chains, the bracelets, the watch ray gator.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Yeah. Man, he's a badass.
Speaker 6 (28:26):
There's very few coaches that if I ever stop this,
what I want to coach Dabo Sweeney, him red Lashly
is short list. There may be a couple of others,
but that's the short list of guys I'd be interested in.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Well, you former offensive lineman. Have to be especially proud
to him, you know, him and Mario doing a service
here for us in the league. I love it.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Hey, Eric McLain acc network former Clemson Tiger with us
Mondays in the football It's him and Steve Smith. We're
city on Mondays. I've bat like bad company. Why would
you not be here every Monday for that?
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Thank you? Brother, appreciates you always, Eric McLain, He'll be.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
With us here in a couple of weeks when college
football gets fired up. With us here on radio Row
seven oh four, five, seven oh ninety six ten, hit
us up on the FanDuel text line your thoughts. A
lot of folks sending condolences to Willie P after Eric
body bagged him a couple of minutes ago. Regarding the
leg press, I want to claim I had nothing to
do with it, but I guess I did ask the question,
So I'm sure Willy P's gonna be upset with me,
(29:18):
but I need Willy to know if he's out there listening.
This was once again all instigated by Josh Fitty Marlowe,
So I hope you're willing to take full accountability for that, Josh,
this is all you.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
I mean.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
Look, you know that I am. You did a terrific job.
And I've already let Mack and Bone know we have
audio of him getting ripped by eMac.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
So it's gonna get replayed and.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Look it, I know it will Only WILLI p.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Could brag about something so minuscule and then get offended
for being ripped a boy for seven I was doing
two twenty five when I was thirteen.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Oh lord, okay, listen. I'm more interested in just the
relationship between How often are you two texting each other
and just ripping into each other, like how often? How
frequently throughout the day, or you too just roasting one another?
Speaker 5 (29:58):
Well you know that he referred to himself as my stepfather?
Speaker 3 (30:02):
No I was unaware.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
Yeah, yeah, he refers to himself as my step dad.
So I talk to Willie no lie every day. There's
not a no, there's not a single day where I
do not hear from Willy. Whether it's directly or in
the Mets group chat. I have contact with Wolpo Logic
every single day, and this is just the nature of
our relationship. We fight, I bring to him, I bring
light what he says, he gets a mad. We go
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eat pastrami, and all's right in the world.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Right, go see?
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Because Will and I have a very professional, cordial relationship.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
What's that like? It's great? I love it.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
We don't fight about things like you two do. Willy
and I just enjoy each other's company and we're together.
You two go at at each other's throats. I enjoy
the chaos though. Well that that Truer words have never
been spoken on this radio station. All right, seven oh
four five, seven ninety six ten, hit us up on
the FanDuel text like Catfish. Gumby wants to know if
if Bill was wearing a hoodie at the press conference.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
He was not. He was suited and booted.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
I am very curious to know what the sideline attire
will be.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
Will it be the cutoff hoodie? Vetter? Be that you
want it?
Speaker 5 (31:00):
I bought one, that's right, you did, so he'd better
be there. And to cut off Fuddy with a couple
of holes in it.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
I want you to cut it up halfway so with
a crop top cut off hoodie. That's what I really want.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
But I'm not cropping anything except my gut.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Like that's what I want.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
I want the gut hang it out, That's what I want,
you know, kind of like the crop top cut off
that goes under the shoulder pads when you're playing. I
want you to have that hoodie style so that you
can walk around just rubbing your belly when you're walking
down the hallway.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
What I should have asked iMac while we had him,
if if if from one bald man to a balding man, Yeah,
if I should go on home?
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Why because I can't go on home and shape that.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
Yeah, because like he has to look down. I think
I want to try to bald head with the with
the nice man and see, I think you'd pull it
off just fine. I maybe going in the other direction. No,
I mean I don't. I'm not bald.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
I've got the finally at the top of like the
yamica area on the top of my head here that
is there's.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Nothing offensive, Like what is it?
Speaker 5 (31:58):
What did you make that face?
Speaker 3 (31:59):
For him?
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Try to describe for people who can't see me a
bald spot, right, I got a little bit of balts.
I gets starting to develop finally in the last two
or three years, and my wife's been giving me a
hard time. I may or may not be getting an
opportunity to do a hair restoration experiment to see if
it works. And I have never ever in my life
like coveted that, but I'm willing to try it because
my wife has been ruthlessly picking on me lately that
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it's finally happening, so I may allow them to experiment
on the top of my head to see if they
can regrow my hair on top the thing I've always.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
Been worried about with, like the hair restoration projects right
as I grow hair in other places. Okay, I didn't
say where on my back.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
No listen, I'm in the hairy back club, man, I
get it. I got angel wings on my back.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
Isn't it the worst?
Speaker 5 (32:43):
And like when it starts getting long en, that's where
it starts itching. That's the absolute worst feeling in the world.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
I've once told my wife on the about a decade
ago on the beach, I saw like an old time
where he's like seventy five years old, I mean, just
a hairy gorilla of a man and like the hairs
sprouting out of his collared shirt out the front and
the back. And I said, I aspire to be that
man one day, right, And so yeah, I've always wondered
do the hair restoration products do they accelerate hair growth
on your back too?
Speaker 3 (33:11):
That's a great point.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
That's my biggest fear because I already got like, I
guess it's a carpet of back hair, don't I don't.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
I don't need a rug back there.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
McConkey says, you're killing me, k B. I thought I
was good to be at thirty four and no signs
of bald. And yet I'm sorry, bro, Like I walked
under a security camera like three years ago and saw
it after the fact that I was like what, oh, oh, whoa,
what's going on there? And so you know, I rock
a hack quite a bit and I don't really care.
But my wife is like, hey, you're going bald finally.
So I'm like, you know, I'm gonna show you, lady.
Look at Flounders bond spot.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
I like it.
Speaker 5 (33:42):
It's there.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
I like it, it's prevalent, It's okay, you know what.
I don't know why. You just you're nasty to everybody.
Seven O four five seven ninety six ten. Hit us
up on the fan duel text line right now we
go to smoke on the headlines.
Speaker 7 (33:55):
Yeah, Fiddy insists upon himself. Uh, that's what he does
right now? All right, anyway, you're talking, you're kind of
talking about this with Eric Kyle.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
We're talking about what I'm so lost in all over
the play? What was I talking about?
Speaker 7 (34:08):
Apparently in in the last twenty minutes, President Donald Trump
has signed an executive order that will prohibit third party
pay for play payments and directs the Secretary of Labor
in the National Labor Relations Board to clarify that athletes
are amateurs and not employees. According to the White House,
the NCAA and Power five leaders have long pursued congressional
(34:28):
action on Capitol Hill, most recently with the introduction of
the Score Act in the House. Co sponsors of the
Score Act include seven Republicans and two Democrats, which gives
to bill a fair chance of passage in the House.
It would at least need seven Democratic votes in the Senate,
where its chances are viewed as slim.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Right now, Yeah, I was gonna say, I mean you
talked about appeals for congressional help.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
This isn't that.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
This is an executive order. I know there's more out there,
don't get me wrong, but like, does this face immediate
legal challenge? Does this make an impact? It's it's really
hard to say. I don't know. That's interesting though. We'll
come back. We'll tell you Who balled Out. The executive
director of the College Football Playoff, Rich Clark, coming up
at five o'clock and if five twenty five state fans
stick around. Dave Dorian at five twenty five Sports Radio
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Speaker 7 (36:15):
I got to go with to catcher for the Boston
Red Sox, Carlos nervaiaz two of five from the plate,
including a crucial clutch two run homer into top of
the eleventh in extras to give the Socks a nine
to eight win over to Phillies and avoiding a sweep.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
I'll go with Willie Pea's quads.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
A four hundred and seventy pound leg press has been
the topic of conversation the Hottest Today on w wefn
Z Willipe's quads bawling out. I just wanted to get
to the next conversation. I'm sorry, Willy p all right
seven oh four, five, seven oh ninety six to ten
hit us up on the fan duel text line. Hulk
Cogan died today at the age of seventy one, and
I have you know, I'm pretty open about it. I've
(36:52):
not been a wrestling fan, certainly not in the way
that Smoke and and Wes hoggored Hoggard like, not the
way those guys are, So you know, I'm I'm one
of the last in the building to jump into any
wrestling conversations about raw or WrestleMania or ae W versus.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
The WWA or any of that stuff.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
But I did grow up on hul Cogan, you know,
man born by the name Terry Bulla for those that
may not know, but you know, the Hulkster truly an American.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
Original.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Let's say, I think you could even call him an
American icon in many ways, complicated legacy to be sure,
loved by many, not so much by many others, but
gone at seventy one.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
And it's I don't know, smoke.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
It's hard to believe because when I brought this up
earlier in the show, I got the people automatically who
you know, were saying rip hull Cogan, you know, others
saying that you know, I wasn't a very good guy.
So I'm not going to pretend to eulogize him in
that way. And so you know, you get that stuff
on the text line. But I mean, this is still
a major loss. And I know we framed it earlier
in the show, like Malcolm Jamal Warner and Ozzy Osbourne
(37:56):
and you know, hul Cogan. Now this kind of thing
does seem to come. Three is Chuck MANGIONI also passing
away yep earlier today, So I want to mention that too,
But I don't know, Like, how are you a diehard,
lifelong wrestling fan thinking today about the passing of arguably
the biggest name of the history of professional wrestling wrestling?
Speaker 3 (38:15):
Is it even arguable?
Speaker 7 (38:16):
Yo, It's no, I don't He's like easily top five
and probably top three at the very least.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Who's even in your mind who could make the case
that they're the bigger name in wrestling that HULKGA.
Speaker 7 (38:28):
Maybe Stone Cold Steve Austin, but Stone Cold was not
on top as long as Hogan was. Stone Cold's career
on top was relatively short all things considered, because his
neck injuries really hurt back into his career. His peak
was like from late ninety seven to two thousand, two
thousand and one. Hogan was on top of the business.
(38:49):
Kyle from nineteen eighty four until ninety nine two thousand,
once WCW started going downhill. Yeah, and even then he
had a nostalge run into WWE in two thousand and
two and he got the title again. So we're talking
about something that spans nearly eighteen years of Hulk Hogan
being on the top of his game, you know, being
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a top draw, being a name that really gets people
to put butts in their seats and watch them wrestling.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
He got a lot of people into the door.
Speaker 7 (39:17):
He talked a lot of people into the door, and
he got a lot of people to care about wrestling.
And he was the reason, one of the main reasons
why the WWE had the boom period that they had.
If Vincent mann was not able to get Hulk Hogan
back in nineteen eighty three and verne Gania never let
him go into Awa, who knows what wrestling would look like.
(39:38):
It could still be in some cases a territorial wrestling
promotion type.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
You know.
Speaker 7 (39:44):
The booms table would have helped it still, especially with
Turner having Georgia Championship Wrestling, then World Championship Wrestling in
mid Atlantic Championship Wrestling.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
But I don't know if.
Speaker 7 (39:54):
It would have ever gotten as big as it did
if it wasn't for Hok Hogan, because you got to
remember they brought they brung it up on the Vincent
mann documentary last year, but Vincent mannon mortgaged his whole
entire life savings on WrestleMania One. Yeah, that was headlined
by Hulk Cogan and Mister T taking on Roddy Piper
and Paul Orndor Well Cowboy Bob Orton Rings.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Yeah, I'm glad you mentioned that documentary, and that was
one of those things that I remembered, was like that,
you know, his rise to superstardom, the the Iron Sheet
match in nineteen eighty four, and yeah, the whole Commania movement.
You know, it was built on you know, patriotism and
you know that larger than life charisma and you know
his catchphrase, what You're gonna do when whole.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
Camania runs wild on you?
Speaker 4 (40:37):
Brother?
Speaker 3 (40:38):
Like you know, all the things that we know about him.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
So I mean, like that that as a movement, his
growth as a persona as a brand, There's just not
much that compares to it in the history of sports
and entertainment, that last word, of course being the operative
and most important phrase when we talk about pro wrestling.
But you know, you had that growth, that build up,
and then of course ninety six in w c W
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he famously turns heel into hollywoodhul Cogan, co founder of
the New World Order, you know, in wo Left for Life,
I mean, a storyline that rebooted pro wrestling and sparked
the Monday Night Wrestling Wars. You know, he kind of
redefined the wrestling anti hero in that way. That was
a gut punch. I know you weren't even born yet,
(41:21):
but I remember watching that as a kid.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
Well he was not the anti hero. He was the heel.
Sting was the anti hero.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
Well, okay, fair enough, but I remember watching that as
a kid live and being like heartbroken almost. I mean
I was ten years old, so I didn't know any better,
but I watched that live when it happened and thinking,
oh my god, like the guy who you know, this
the Holkster, the guy who drapes himself in the red,
white and blue. You know, the guy who's in all
the commercials. I mean, I carried a hul Cogan lunchbox
to school when I was in elementary school. I've got
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pictures of it as a kid, and I remember being like,
my worldview was shaken. But that night when Hull Cogan
became Hollywood Hogan and became the heel and then of
course I got people on the text line saying he was.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
A bad guy. He was an ardent racist, he was this,
he was that.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
I mean, yeah, he was removed from the WWE in
the Hall of Fame rather in twenty fifteen after racist remarks.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
Surfaced from a tape in two thousand and eight.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
That's right, and he would publicly apologize. He was reinstated
in twenty eighteen. So I'm fully aware of all those things.
I watched his you know, reality show for a while there.
I forget how old I was when it came out.
Speaker 7 (42:23):
That was two thousand and five ish, yeah, because remember
it ended around the time his son Nick got arrested.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was nineteen when that came out. Yeah,
I mean, just his life, man, think about this, I mean, listen,
let's be honest. The steroids, the surgeries, all of it.
It truly is one of the most insane, bizarre, entertaining, interesting,
nuanced careers, personas public lives that any of us have
ever taken in as fans or consumers of sports and entertainment.
(42:52):
And then go back to the original discussion and we'll
come back to this. But, like, you know, is he
the biggest name in the history of wrestling? Is he
bigger than The Rock? Is he bigger than John Cena?
Is he bigger than Stone Cold Rick Flair? A guy who,
by the way, outlived hul Cogan, Like who thought that
was gonna happen. So somehow he's outlived hul Cogan. So yeah,
I mean, is Hulk Hogan the largest name in the
(43:14):
history of wrestling?
Speaker 3 (43:15):
I think he is.
Speaker 7 (43:17):
And if we're just talking wrestling, yeah, and worldwide appeal
based on wrestling, you'd be pretty hard pressed to find
anyone bigger. Now, there are guys that like The Rock
that have gone on to have bigger careers outside of wrestling,
and Hulk Hogan's career outside of wrestling did not go well.
Like his biggest movie appearances were where he was a
bit player, like Rocky three and Trimmers. Uh not Trimmors,
(43:40):
but oh gosh, what was the movie with the case Book?
Speaker 2 (43:44):
We got to step aside real quick. Let's hit a
break real fast. Richard Clark, the new executive director of
the College Football Playoff, will join us on the other side.
Speaker 3 (43:50):
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