October 10, 2025 • 43 mins
In the 2nd hour of the show, Kyle reacts to the biggest audio in sports with What Did You Say?!?! and after Orion Kerkering's crushing error that led to the Dodgers advancing to the NLDS, Kyle asks the audience the time you felt the most sorry for an athlete after a crucial mistake.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:49):
Tatan Wesley Chapel.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
As we were talking about the Kurt Signetti Indiana Hoosiers
a minute ago, They've got arguably the biggest matchup of
the weekend in college football.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Man, sure it's arguable.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Actually seven versus three at Austin Stadium in Eugene, Oregon
Ducks and Hoosier's. He said he could see Kurt Signetti
jumping to the NFL.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
I could not.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
He's never coached there at sixty four years old. I
don't think he's going to try to make that leap,
Nor do I think anyone would give him the opportunity.
But it did remind me that as I was looking
over his coaching resume once again to make sure I
didn't miss anything, that I was reminded that he both
coached he coached twice in North Carolina wolf Pack. James
had also texted him to say, come back to Raleigh. Signetti, JK,
I know it's not happening. God, Indiana makes me sick.
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Kurt Signette did once upon a time coach at NC
State as the quarterback slash tight ends coach.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
He was also back in.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Nineteen eighty five the quarterbacks and wide receivers coach at Davidson,
just up the road. So Kurt Signetti has twice been
in or three times excuse me, because you know the
whole Elon thing happened, But prior to getting to Elon,
he had been in North Carolina at least twice that
I'm aware of, coaching football. So a lot of people
missed out on what's apparently become one of the all
time great late bloomer coaching careers, if you want to
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call it that, because he didn't get his first job
until fifty years old at iup back in two thousand
and eleven.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
So you know me, Wow, I can't believe you just
did that.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
It works though, That's I don't know, buddy, that's that's
pretty debatable. We had a text earlier say, KB, can't
believe you haven't talked about Oriyan Kirkring yet for the
Phillies and the way that Dodgers game ended last night. Yeah, Dodgers,
moving on to the NLCS Oriyan Kirkring. It was one
of those moments and instances where you end up feeling
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really bad for a player on the team that your
favorite team just beat. It doesn't happen often, and I'm
sure we could come up with plenty of examples of this,
but yeah, I mean last night, eleventh inning, won one game.
Comebacker Andy pa has broken bat pench runner comes screaming
down the third base line and Oriyan Kirkering, the young reliever,
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you know, freaks out and all he had to do.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
J T.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Real Muto is pointing at him. Go one, go one,
go one. There's two outs. You get the force out
at first, it ends the inning. The run doesn't matter,
and Kirkering just loses his mind, loses composure, and Sales
won over the head of the catcher and the Dodgers
win and take the series, and Phillies fans, Philadelphia sports
fans had.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
An awful night last night. I mean, just her red
this night.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
They get beaten by seventeen by the Giants on Thursday
Night Football, and all the while, the Phillies get eliminated
by the Dodgers on one of the ugliest and most
unfortunate plays you'll ever see in that situation.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
And the Flyers got off to their season with a
loss too.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Yeah, but hey, Phillies fans, at least you went out
in style with those powder blues. Baby.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Yeah, that's true. They were well dressed. I'll give him that.
But yeah, that Kirkering ending last night. I was thinking,
it's not like the Bill Buckner thing in the World
Series is bad. We always go to Buckner because the
ball went between his legs. It's the World Series against
the Mets. They go on to like, we know that
that will always be referenced. Leon Lets fumble in the
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Super Bowl will always be referenced. But what is the time,
And I'll ask sports fans out there listening to this,
the time that you most felt for or felt sympathy
for a player on the other team, right, and it's
probably because they did something or it happened in the
midst of your team beating them. It doesn't have to be,
I guess, but the time that you most felt for
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a player on the opposing team because the mistake that
was made, what was so devastating, so embarrassing that like
the human element took over for you. Seven h four five,
seven ninety six to ten. I'll be honest with you.
The Mark Sanchez butt fumble, and he's in the news
this week. The Mark Sanchez butt fumble was hard to
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It was hilarious, absolutely hilarious. But it also immediately dawned
on me what had happened. Oh, that's gonna be He's
gonna be stuck with that for the rest of his life.
He'll be stuck with that for the rest of his career.
So that occurred to me. People will probably not feel
bad for this guy, and it's if he were anybody else.
I think more people would feel bad for Russell Wilson
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and the goal line interception in the Super Bowl. More
people would probably feel for him in that moment, that situation,
if it were anybody but Russell Wilson. Right, But he's
not the most popular guy in the world. We all
know the reasons why he's perceived to be phony, to
be inauthentic, to be all the things that folks say
about Russell Wilson, we all know what they are. So
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I don't think that many people feel for Russell Wilson
at the end of the day. Like Chris Weber the
timeout against Carolina, that's my.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Mom always feels sorry because she was watching that live.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Yeah, and he's a young guy, you know, in that situation,
it's like, he's a young dude.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Mistakes happen.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
If you're honest with yourself, that could have been you
at twenty one years old, twenty two, it could have
been you.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
So you know that.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
I'll tell you one the replays of Jean van Dedevelt
in the ninety nine British Open.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Well, I can't watch him.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
I mean I can, but it's like through one I
gotta close one eye when I'm looking at the TV.
Ever time one of those bad cuts is shown on TV.
And the ultimate meltdown that Triple Bogey collapsed on the
eighteenth holl it's hard to watch. It's hard to watch
another human being go through that.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
I got three. Two of them happened on the same day,
and I actually was a lie for two of them
the same day. Yes, the twenty eleven NFC Championship game.
That was the forty nine Ers and Giants. Okay, just
as a precursor, I was wanting the horrible to happen
that year, and then it became the Patriots versus the Giants.
Part of the reason why Kyle Williams not the rookie
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wide receiver to Patriots. But Kyle Williams was the punt
returner for the forty nine Ers, and he fumbled the
football and that led to Lawrence Tynes kicking the game
winning field goal. And of course, unfortunately Kyle Williams got
deaf threats. And then there was this kid that gave
him a touching letter saying it's okay, everyone makes mistakes,
So Kyle Williams was one. And then that same day
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when Billy Kundaff whiffed on the kick.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Oh yeah, both of those in the same day. But
I also speaking of kickers.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Lynn Elliott nineteen ninety five AMC Divisional game Kansas City Chiefs. Yeah,
lose the game by three. He was zero for three
on field goals. Yeah, and he gets all the blame.
Even though Steve Bono was horrid against the coltson that
was arguably the best team that Marty Schottenheimer had that year.
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It was either that or nineteen ninety seven. So I
gotta go Lynn Elliott, Kyle Williams, and Billy Condffin. Also
fro Jackie Smith because it's arguably one of Verna lundquists
best calls. Because when he dropped the pass in the
Super Bowl against the Steelers, I think it was Super
Bowl twelve or fourteen, he said, oh my gosh, he's
got the beat a second man in America.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
If you're just tuning in, the question is after watching
a Ryan Kirkring last night, the Philadelphia Phillies young reliever,
great talent, meltdown in that moment come back or broken
bat off the bat of Andy Pajes, the Dodgers pinch
runner screaming down the third base line. All Kirkring has
to do is pick up the ball and calmly throw
at the first base like his catcher JT. Real Muto
is telling him to do, and they're out of the inning.
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But instead Kirkering freaks out airmails won over his catcher's
head ballgame. Dodgers win, they advanced, Philly season is over.
When is the most prominent time that you can recall
feeling pity for or feeling sorry for a player on
an opposing team? Seven oh four five, seven ninety six
to ten, Give me yours. I had somebody a minute
ago say Fred Brown nineteen eighty two, North Carolina, And
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it took me a second, and then I looked up
in somebody else that texted in, Oh the pass?
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Who was it? Somebody said the pass? The worthy is Oh, yeah,
that's it.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Fred Brown nineteen eighty two, the Georgetown guard who threw
the final game losing pass I guess to James Worthy,
sealing the win for North Carolina. And James Worthy, by
the way, was back in the news yesterday because he
posted a picture of himself wearing a gas house hat
reping Gastonia in North Carolina.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
So good news for the Tar Hills.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Hey, yeah, that's true. We take a phone call. What
happened over the No, someone just mentioned one that you
just mentioned.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Oh Fred Brown?
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Yeah so that and he also mentioned miracle at the
Medal Lands part one. Yeah, that's a good one, which
led to honestly built Bill Parcells getting his job. So that,
honestly and the grand scheme of things was great for
the Giants. Yeah, but Sepham Concord two great ones. First one,
John Carney River City Relay. After all those lateral passes,
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they scored a touchdown. Oh, John Carny comes out, this
is the extra point and this is back when extra
points were like at the three yard line too, so
it should have been a gimme and it kills the
Saint playoff chances. And then he mentions what I think
is the best one in the last fifteen years.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Jim Joyce. Yeah. Yeah, that one's tough because Jim Joyce
was in tears after that game. He didn't mean it either.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Well, I mean, nobody ever really means it except maybe
Angel Hernandez. But like Joyce was, it was sick. He
was in tears. He could barely contain himself. He was
so sad about what had happened. He really really was
felt bad for him. I always felt bad for him.
Where was the other one? There was another one that
came in a second. Somebody said, Matt Ryan twenty eight
to three, what Panthers, You must not be a Panther.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Fan bust that I don't think he was the main
go right.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
That was Honestly, a lot of it has to do
with Kyle Shanahan and Deontay or not Deonta Davonte formant Freeman, Yes,
for missing a block that led to the comeback really
becoming a thing.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Here's one that we can't be alone on. I don't
think I believe you'll agree with this. I always felt
sick for Steve Bartman. I really I always felt so bad.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
For Steve Bartman, so stupid that he got the brunt
of it when everyone else around him was trying to
go after that foul ball too. Fernis Freddy was the
latest one to text that in seven oh four numbers,
several others saying the same thing. I always felt really
bad for Steve Bartman. And here's a crazy thing. It's
twenty twenty five, it's been twenty two years, and that
man has still kept a low profile.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Well, I think that might also because I've thought about that.
I think that might just be his general demeanor. But still, no,
I don't age.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
I know.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
I'm not saying I'm not saying he should have to
be in hiding. No, one should believe that, especially now
that the Cubs of Wonder World. So because you're right,
they had other opportunities to win that game. It wasn't
all on it, and it was Game six. And I
think boys say slu who I'm not even blaming because
he's just in the heat of com petition, But I
think I think a lose reaction to that feeds it too,
because like he was incensed, he couldn't believe it, and
Bartman's like, he's just a fan with his headphones on,
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listening and he's trying to catch a foul ball, like
ten people around him that are trying to get the
ball to but then one of he messes up, Oh,
it's your fum again. But it's like, I understand I
lose reaction too, because he's just trying to make a.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Play and the play.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
I'm not mad at him, but I think it exacerbated
the reaction to that everybody had towards Steve Bartman. It
just it was unfortunate all the way across the board.
Uh Furness Freddy, Freddy's on fire. He took one out
of my mouth, he said. Tony Romo botched holding the playoffs. Yes,
definitely that I don't know, Yeah, I feel the same way.
Mishandled the snap chip shot field goal that would have
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won the game, and the play ended their season, of course,
and and really just added on to the years of
Tony Romo can't win big games narrative that was seven.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Seattle, by the way.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Really started it, that one right there, because it was
its first playoff game, and in the next year it was.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Which isn't fair because it's not like it's not a
traditional quarterback failure. He dropped the hold. I get it's
his responsibility when I.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Parsales was like the last coach really that still had
starting quarterbacks or backup quarterbacks holding for kicks because remember
he started two years to backup quarterback.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
His first start was here on.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Sunday Night Football and hers.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
It's funny you go back and look at that game.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Carolina had the lead going into the fourth quarter into
they scored like twenty one unanswered points to that game.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Cam not jumping on the fumble has
come in a lot on the text line and it's
a great one.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
It fits in it really did.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
It fits in perfectly with this conversation because it's exactly
how I feel about it too, and we talked about
this not that long ago. To me, it was just
a classic case of his head tying up his feet,
because as Greg Olsen and we've all said it, I
think most of us have, but Greg laid it out
again recently. I forget what podcast he was on. Might
have been with Marty Smith, might have been somebody else,
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but it was Greg basically saying that the notion, like
I said weeks ago, the notion that that dude Cam Newton,
who never shied away from contact was the ultimate short
yardage and goal line weapon, put his body on the
line so many times, was too afraid of contact to
go get the f It's a ridiculous notion. So it's
clear what happened there, and it is exactly the example
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of feeling bad for a guy, and of course Panthers
fans should feel bad. I'm not sure this fits in
terms of the opponent feeling bad for one of the
opposing players on the other team, but yeah, if you're
not a Panthers fan, you probably could feel that way.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Which guy Randy from Orlando, Jake Deloon daring dat Arizona game. Yeah, yeah,
that one gets brought up way too often around here. Again,
it's the worst loss in franchise history. Argue with your mother.
I don't care that they've lost two Super Bowls. That
is still the worst loss in franchise history. Okay, it
just started. At started that game just like the Bill
Belichick game against TCU uh and then you already beat
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this Arizona team. It felt like it was the best
accumulation of a roster from top to bottom. And then
Jake threw four interceptions, had one fumble, and then they
gave him a big contract because Jerry or getting ready
for the lockouts, and it backfired immediately because then to arizonagain.
Then the Philly game to start the next year, he
had four turnovers two.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Somebody just asked me if Jose Conseco's head homer counts.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
No, it doesn't. What do you mean. I laugh at
that one every time I see it.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
His head was built for exactly that moment. For me, well,
the steroids helped, but like nineteen ninety three, I'll forever
remember that nineteen ninety three, Carlos Martinez hits that ball
bounces off of Conseco's head over the fence for a
home run. No, I mean, you can feel bad for
him if you want to. That was just funny Like
that one will forever be just simply hilarious. There's no
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other way to describe that. John Elways fumble came in. Yeah,
I mean, fortunately for him. They went on to win
a couple of titles later on.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
This one's for John.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
But eighty seven the fumble Cleveland AFC playoff.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Yeah, that's a good no. No, that was Ernest Way.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Huh el Wait didn't fumble it. That was Ernest when
eighty that was Ernest Beiner. What FuMB was he talking about?
Then he's talking about the fumble drive into fumble. Oh yeah,
he got me off back here, so he it benefited
Lway but didn't drop a snap. I thought he dropped
a snap. I don't remember. But at least with Ernest Spiner.
Here's the thing that kind of ticks me off. People
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talk about that Ernest Finer fumble, but yet they don't
mention to come back when he was with Washington, when
he won the Super Bowl and was one of the
key components of that Super Bowl team.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Okay, Ernest Finder had a comeback. Yeah that happened. We'll
clear it up.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
During the break, I'll ask him exactly what he meant.
Seven oh four or five seven ninety six ten, We'll
come back. We'll talk to Marty Snyder, Panthers PSL owner,
first and foremost, but most known for his time with NASCAR, NBC, Amazon,
Turner Studio host Pitt Reporter Marty Snyder, Our Good Buddies
back next. Sports Radio ninety two to seven wfn Z.
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Who was the last time you took pity on an
opposing player for making a massive, massive mistake in a game?
Seven four, five, seven ninety six ten, talking about that
after last night in the Dodgers Phillies series finale, Dodgers
win it, they move on O'Ryan Kirkring, the young Phillies reliever,
made a grave error in a mistake last night overthrow
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to his catcher JT. Real Muto, who was urging his
young pitcher on the soft comeback or just to pick
it up and go to first to end the ending.
But Kirkering had a moment, and we've seen guys that
you just don't think it's gonna happen. To guys at
that level, you don't expect it to happen. It's one
thing to have a ball bounced through your legs, you know,
or to miss a wide open shot or something along
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those lines. But like it was a purely mental thing
last night with kirkering where he should have known where
to go with the ball. It should have been automatic.
I don't know what was going through his mind.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
It was.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
It was very much kind of the baseball version of
Cam Newton not jumping on the fumble. Head tied up
his feet and his body just did something else entirely,
and he airmailed it over real Muto's head. Dodgers scored.
Dodgers win, and that's the end of the Philly season.
And we do have people on the text line saying, oh,
what terrible for Phillies, what a great What couldn't have
happened to a better city? You know, so on and
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so forth, And I get it, I do. I mean,
we've got a lot of where's Philly Nate today on
the text line too. I have no idea. Philadelphia had
a really tough sports night last night. But let's be real,
we can't mock them too much. They are the defending
NFL champs, so you know, there's that, and the Phillies
were good. But yeah, Zach and Miami texted end to say,
are we all coming to terms with the fact that
Dodgers are going to win the World Series again? Well, listen,
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I like the sound of that, but I'm not entirely
convinced of it just yet.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
I will say, if the Brewer crew gets if they
don't completely blow this here because they lost Game four
last night to the Cubbies, but if they have to
go against the Brewers, that's gonna be a tough matchup,
just because the Brewers pitching staff from top to bottom,
I'd argue, is the best out. It's either m or Seattle.
And plus Seattle is going to be hard if they
win this game tonight against the Tigers, They're going to
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be a hard out because of their pitching staff too.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
It's just.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
I want to see the Mariners win for multiple reasons,
basically rooting for the brew Crew or the Manaers, just
because it would be awesome for the Brewers to win
it for Bob Uker, and just they've been so close
so many times.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
And I'd also love to see the Manners win it
because A.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Cal Rawley, yeah, the big Dumper, and b I'd love
to see the analytical Nerds lose their minds over a
team that's batting like around two thirty two to forty
to a whole year, win a World Series, like yeah,
take that nerves well, you know, plus they got some
power bats too. It's not only just cal Raley Randy
Rose Arena. That trade last year has worked out great
for them. You Hineo Suarez. You know, he's not been
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the same since he got traded to Seattle again, but
he's still got a power bat too. Julio Rodriguez has
been playing good, and plus they've gotten like Jorgey Plonco's
had a good year too.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Jeez, I can't believe I knewiced much about the managers.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
I was gonna, Yeah, it's you know, it's impressive, it
really is. Now, speaking of that, somebody called in. I
think it was an older gentleman called in to heat
praise on Smoke before his ridiculous sports memory, because I
read a text where a Texter said John Elway fumble,
and I think it was nineteen eighty seven or something
along those lines, and you were absolutely right that Ernest
Binder was the one that fumbled that football. And so
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I read the text and I was like, wait a minute.
I don't know what he's talking about here, and you
went straight to Ernest Binder, and that caller called in
and said that he was just really impressed by you
and your memory, which I love. I'm glad that he
called in to acknowledge you. But I also wonder where
he's been because you've been at this for a while.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Well, dat, and I mentioned Jackie Smith, who as the
sickest man in America?
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Is that what it was?
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Because he dropped a pass into Super Bowl and to
shootout between Stallback and the Steelers and Verne Lundquist, who
was devoice of the Cowboys at the time. Yeah, dropped
the line, Oh my gosh, God bless him. He's got
to be the sickest man in America right now. I
love you, Vern, all right.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Real quick, heads up for the NASCAR fans, I apologize
this has really not happened. We thought it would maybe
happen a little bit more this season than it has.
Marty Snyder has had to bail last minute his flight
to Las Vegas for this week. South point four hundred
is a problem, and so Marty's trying to get himself
from here to Las Vegas. Flights became an issue, and
he and I talked about this before the season began,
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that there might some instances where he's traveling to races
on Friday and it could be a problem for us. Fortunately,
it hasn't really been a problem throughout the course of
the season already. But today Marty's gonna have to bail
last minute because he's trying to make sure he gets
on a plane on time to get to Las Vegas
for this weekend's playoff race.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
So it's gonna say the only time that happened was
Mexico City, and you know it's did long trips that
I think really gets you.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, so makes sense. It's about a
four or five hour flight. So we wish him the best.
We'll talk to Marty next week here on the show
seven oh four or five, seven ninety six, ten Todd
from Detroit said the play last night, the Kirkering play,
had his wife talking to herself this morning. That's gotta
be tough. Yeah, that's that's rough, man. That's a really
horrible way to bow out of the playoffs, especially when
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you're a team. People felt like the Phillies were the
better team going into the series. I mean, I was
in one of them. But I think people, rightfully some did,
thought that Philadelphia was the better team and the Dodgers
didn't even hit in that series. Like that lineup puts
so much pressure on you top to bottom, and it
was the bottom half of their lineup that won the
series for them. Showe Otani was one for seven team
in the series and they still walked him last night.
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So I mean, it was the bottom half of the
lineup that really did the damage against Philadelphia, and they're
just left kind of scratching their heads up there in
Philly today, like how are we not still in this thing?
Speaker 4 (21:11):
That?
Speaker 3 (21:11):
And you know is crazy how that the pitching really
wasn't a problem. It's just the bats never woke up
for the Phillies outside of Game three, yep.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
I mean that's the other thing too, is that it's
one thing credit to Phillies manager, to JT. Real Muto,
to Castellanos, to a couple of guys who came right
to the aid of Kirk Ring last night, not that
he needed, you know, medical aid, but like they came
right to him because they understood he was going to
put that on himself, and it is kind of on him.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
He did make the play.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
But the fact that that lineup produced one run in
eleven innings in an elimination game is the real problem
for Philadelphia last week.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
That the bound of money, with all.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
The money that you spent on that lineup to produce
one run in eleven innings in an elimination game, that's
the actual problem with what happened to you last night.
So I feel for Kirk Ring, but they probably deserved
to lose the game anyway, and that's what happened last
all right. Well, we opened up a segment with Marty
Snyder not being able to join us today, and we
actually ran really long in the previous segment having fun
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with people you took pity on.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
So let's do it. It's time for the best audio
in sports. What did you say?
Speaker 5 (22:14):
You?
Speaker 1 (22:14):
What? What did you say? Wait a minute, sit me right?
Speaker 3 (22:20):
What I mean by that is all right?
Speaker 1 (22:23):
What you got over there.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Hopefully we don't have to take pity on Rico Dawdle
this Sunday, as he's going to be the starting running
back yet again with Cuba Hubbard out, and this is
a big game for Rico. He's going against his former
team and a team that took a chance on him
after his college career when he went undrafted into Dallas Cowboys.
Earlier this week, he said that Dallas should have their
seat belts ready, and he discussed his mindset yesterday heading
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into such a big game in his career.
Speaker 6 (22:46):
Just matchup another game happens to be the Cowboys and
definitely looking forward to it up though last week, Yeah, no,
they got to buckle up. No, stant On that that
was just meaning it's gonna be a very physical game
for Mayann. I know, for Mayenn, just take pride in that. Yeah,
bucket them, chance drops up tight and I will be coming.
Speaker 7 (23:03):
Shot times or incentive I mean playing against I know
you you said, you know, hey, they gave you five years,
but yet still they didn't you're sign yet?
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Yeah, is there a little bit that.
Speaker 7 (23:17):
You know you kind of went enough to pay back,
but you know you want to show them that.
Speaker 6 (23:21):
You know, the pay if he made mistake. For sure,
I definitely want to go out there and have a
good game versus of them. But I mean they did
allow me to live out my dream for my five
years there, so I mean no hard feelings. Is the
nature of the business or why I didn't return there?
There was no offer made, so definitely be looking forward
to prove it to them.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Yeah, I heard Newton there with you. What's it like?
Speaker 5 (23:40):
Like?
Speaker 1 (23:40):
So it's funny.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
It feels like every time we build up one of
these narratives, player facing his old team, bad defense coming
in should be opportunities for the offense. Like it feels
like every time we build up one of these narratives,
it goes the opposite way, right, and unless it happens
to our teams, yeah, correct, But like around here for us,
we're looking at teams coming in matchup storylines and it's
like we think this might happen, and sometimes we're right,
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but sometimes it goes the exact opposite way. And I'm
glad to hear Rico kind of downplaying it a little
bit right there, like, Hey, it's the nature of the business, Okay,
he can and should be in his own mind feeling
you don't want me, you didn't think I was worth
keeping around, Like using that as feel and motivation.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
That's a good thing.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
No reason to talk about it too much, No reason
to get Dallas fired up on the other side about it.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
You don't need that.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
And because of Dallas's defense being as poor as it is,
there's a clear opportunity for him to have a very
big day. Do I think he goes for two bills?
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Again? Probably not?
Speaker 2 (24:40):
But do I think he can go for a buck
twenty five and a touchdown on Sunday? Absolutely That's what
I'm looking for out of Rico Dowdle on Sunday. Like
I don't think it's unfair to ask for another hundred
yard rushing performance at all out of Rico Doubtele on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Absolutely not. And I say that.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
To also point out that Dave Knalis should be willing
to feed that man the rock to the level that
he's nearly guaranteed one hundred yard rushing performance on Sunday
because this Cowboys defense will permit that. So I think
if he comes away with anything less than one hundred
yards on Sunday in this game, it's going to be
a massive disappointment, quite honestly. I mean, Dallas is giving
up one twenty seven on the ground, and I think
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Dalla can make him pay in a big way Sunday.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
What else you got, all right? Well, another big factor
into this game.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
More for our listeners and the people here at WF
and Z is how's Fitty going to react? Because if
you haven't been keeping up, Fitty was a Panthers fan
as a kid, didn't turn into a Cowboys fan about
ten years ago, full fully because of his dad, And
now this allseason after doing the flip flop last offseason,
he's back to being a Panthers fan.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
And so far, Kyle, I've been watching the games with him.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
He has been fully supporting Carolina, not watching Dallas games.
Even had Bryce Young Jersey on on Sunday, so I heard.
But this is a real test because CAROLINEA is now
playing Dallas. Well based on the morning show, I think
he showed us where his allegiance is lie heading into
this Sunday's game.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Clue, Yeah, what happened to him? What happened to him?
Speaker 5 (26:02):
Fit?
Speaker 8 (26:03):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (26:03):
I think got some Walmart Pault connection.
Speaker 8 (26:05):
Baby, get your ass back to Gastonia.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
We're all the Cowboy fan's gonna be as they lose
on Sunday.
Speaker 8 (26:11):
Phult connection ol dak Prescott Ow Panthers went in on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
We taken dakown Baby. That boy's craft twin? What do
you guys say about that?
Speaker 4 (26:21):
Twin?
Speaker 1 (26:21):
By twin twin? Where'd you go. He hung up, hung up.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Lloyd the Cowboys fan, No no, no, Cowboy twin, Cowboy twin.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
And that was sir Loina be Oh.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
I got you because I heard part of it live
this morning. I thought they were at the end, that
I had missed the fact they didn't actually hang.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Up on him.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Fiddy's voice squeaking was hysterical, hysterical. I believe him, I do.
I believe him. I've been looking for signs this year.
I really have.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
I've been looking for signs. I do think he's fully converted. Now.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
I'll forgive him for what he did last year, the
okie dog, pretending that he was going to do this.
I'm sure it's not easy, okay, but man, if they
win this game. Wolf Peck James says, I want his
whale tail showing on Sunday. Is it Sunday or Monday?
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Monday?
Speaker 2 (27:19):
I don't want to see it, but I do need
it to happen. Does that make sense? I will, I
can't watch it. I do not want to see Fitty
in a thong. I will avoid that like the plague.
But it does need to happen. But I believe him,
right what else you got?
Speaker 5 (27:34):
All right?
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Moving to college football, you know, despite beating Alabama to
start the year, Florida State is three and two and
they got an intriguing game against pitt coming up tomorrow
at noon. And let's just say that people in Tallahassee
are extremely nervous about this game, as Jeff Cameron, host
of The Jeff Cameron's Show, said, if they lose again
and go from three to oh to three and three,
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hell is about to come to Tallahassee, or physically because
we can't afford to cut. But you're done.
Speaker 8 (28:01):
If you lose this PIT game, that'd be three straight
losses in the ACC. He's lost nine of his last
ten ACC games. What the hell are we talking about?
It's the ACC. We need to go to the SEC
where we can beat people. You know, we beat LSU
no problem, twice, beat Alabama no problem, but we can't
beat an ACC team to save our life. Apparently we
(28:22):
gotta get out of this god forsakingly difficult conference.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
You know, I mean, what was it?
Speaker 8 (28:27):
SMU, Clemson, Duke, Miami, North Carolina, Virginia, Miami again, God dog, Mike,
it's the ACC, sweet Jesus man.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
You know, it's a competitive league.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
What's he mad about that they can't win to the ACC?
I mean, I know what he said, but like, what
are you mad about?
Speaker 1 (28:58):
We're going from three to o to three and three
is no good for Florida.
Speaker 7 (29:00):
It's not.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
But what did you say? Let's be honest.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
The Bama wins shocked everybody, put everybody on tilt to
start the season, and so yes, our perception of Florida
State did change a little bit. But I got scoffed
at by a couple of listeners. What was it last week?
I guess before the Miami game where I'd asked, I
think it was Eric McLain or somebody else, like, you know,
is this a real heavyweight matchup? Can Florida State hang?
(29:24):
And somebody was like, what do you mean? Can they hang?
Didn't you see what they did to Bama? And I'm like, yeah,
but it was week one. We've seen flucush results in
week one. We don't know what they are yet. They
still have a quarterback that can't throw the football at
a high level. I just don't know what they are.
Was the point. I thought they were better than we
believed originally because they did beat Bama. But they beat
up on a couple of cupcakes. So anyway, I get
(29:45):
the point. He's upset. He's allowed to be upset. I
don't know in this kind of what we thought Florida
State was picked to finish near.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
The bottom of this conference prior to the start of
the season, Well, we didn't have any trust in Tommy castlanas.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Too correct correct, So I mean it's piece of audio
right there. But I mean you're allowed to be frustrated.
Did you really think they were suddenly national title contenders overnight?
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Well, given Florida State fans, sometimes I think they probably.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Did maybe, And it's a way I'm not mad at
them for getting excited, but we have to go back
to original preseason expectations for Florida State and what we
thought they would be. And even though it's not how
you thought you'd get there, Virginia's better than people thought.
Virginia went to Louisville and one that was an affirming
win for Virginia. Virginia can go to Charlotte in a
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couple one percent. Virginia can do that. Yes, they can
do that. So this is kind of where Florida State
expected to be, just not how they thought they'd be there.
That's what did you say? The best audio in the
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Speaker 1 (30:58):
To lose is the pain.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
And speaking of friends from the past and a guy
who has beaten Florida State in his career, Sean Levitt,
he had a quarterback at Arizona State, is unlikely to
play for Arizona State as they have a big matchup
against Utah.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
I know what you're about to tell me, and I
I'm in shock too. Go ahead and finish your thought.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
But it's a quarterback for Arizona State, barring a miracle,
is going to be Jeff Simms. Now, if that name
sounds familiar to you, it probably is because he was
the quarterback at Georgia Tech when Jeff Collins was the
head coach. Yep, he was during the COVID year they
beat Florida State. I think that was the first game
of the year he did. After that didn't work it out,
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he didn't went to Nebraska, was the first quarterback for
Matt Ruhle at Nebraska started because his first year was
the COVID year. He has one more year and he's
at Arizona State, starting in what could be one of
the biggest games of the year for the Sun Devils
against Utah.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
He's actually been there for a year and a half.
He transferred in in May of twenty twenty four. But yeah,
it feels that was one of those where when you
sent that to me, I was like, Oh, how like
I forgot that he was even Still it's in part
because he's been there since the spring of twenty twenty four.
He's only twenty three, but it feels like he should
be much old. I kiss he wasn't.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
I think he either reclassified or he was extremely young
when he came out of high school to college because
it was twenty twenties.
Speaker 5 (32:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Yeah, twenty three is still incredibly young considering how long
he's been football. But yeah, Jeff Sims still starting college
football games in the Year of Our Lord twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
To steal a line from rely, Pee, there you go,
We'll come back.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
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Can you get to the buck? He's got to come
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It'll pass to.
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Speaker 1 (33:31):
I gotta go with Ian Half.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
He only went one for five from the plate, but
that one hit was massive, a three run homer to
set the stage for the Cubs to win Game four
of the NLDS against the Milwaukee Brewers, forcing a game
fight between what has really become a pretty big robbery
in the MLB over the last year and a half.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
I'm going with you, boy, cam Skataboo, who last night
registered three rushing touchdowns ninety eight total yards rushing and
captured the hearts of America again on Thursday Night football
in the Giants upset win over the Eagles thirty four seventeen.
The tandem of Cam Scataboo and Jackson Dart. I mean,
(34:11):
I don't know how long it lasts. I don't know
if it's got real staying power. But Giants fans the
airwaves of New York today are just giddy after that win,
as they should be. By the way, the way that
Cam scatabo plays has rubbed off on Jackson Dart. Darts
out there throwing his body around with wanton disregard for
his own safety and long term health. The jokes that
(34:32):
are coming out of it last night are incredible. I
saw someone earlier this morning joking that those two guys
were going to have a meeting after the game last night,
but it only consisted of them doing finishing wrestling moves
off each other on the couch. Because it's a couple
of bros in the backfield together going at it. And
it's also an interesting conversation. Cam Scattabo, who's a Sacramento
State transfer into Arizona State, unless you forgot his story
(34:55):
from last year in the playoffs, fourth round draft pick
one oh five overall, and there were some Panthers fans
who were really interested in this kid. You were one
of them say, and I loved him too, I really did,
and I thought that, you know, but we all said
to the point, there were a lot of people who
told us, yeah, but he's too slow. Yeah but he's
too slow and too small. You know, he's not he
(35:15):
can't run over people the way that he did. And
it's like, yeah, I don't. I don't know about that.
And that's exactly what he's been doing. That's what he
did last night on primetime to one of the most
physical teams in all of football. So it was a
coming out moment for him and confirmation that that kid
absolutely belongs in the NFL and doesn't just belong, but
(35:37):
can be potentially very special player in the NFL. And
I go back, Panthers picked at seventy seven. They got that,
you know, the pick from Atlanta for prince Lely, Uman,
Miellen and Scatabo goes at pick one oh five in
that draft. I think the Princely pick for the Panthers
smoke crack if I'm wrong. Seventy seven and then where
(36:00):
did they pick again? One fourteen is when they took
Trevor etn And.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
Let's be honest, you know, Trevor atn looked pretty good
last week too, and he did role and I think
there's he's more of a long term play. But we're
talking about the Rico doubt on how he needs to
get a lot of touches. I wouldn't mind seeing a
little bit more touches for et In as well, just
to see now special teams. You know, still not over
that muff punt he had against the Falcons, but I
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think that you can have Trevor et and do some
do some of the same stuff that he did too,
that Rico Dawdle did this past weekend, and you can
have him do it to the Dallas defense as well.
I think, I honestly think last year a lot of
those guys on that Georgia offense were maybe being held back.
I'm not I know Colin will defend it, but I'm
not the biggest fan of Mike Bobo as an offensive coordinator.
(36:45):
And based on how Carson Beck's playing at Miami right now,
and how Trevor et In outside of the muff plunt
played in the preseason and has played in the regular season,
technically had more rushing yards than the Dolphins last week,
I wouldn't mind seeing Trevor Eten get a couple more
touches too, So it's not like you completely lost out
by not getting camp Scattabo.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Okay, yeah, so I'm looking at it.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
Pick one oh four, Jacksonville took Basil Tuton, who I loved.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
As matter of fact, he's been good too.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
You know, two of the backs I love the most
came off the board back to back. Tooton went off
one O four and the very next pick was camp
Scattabo at one O five.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
I just.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
I would love to know the people who were out
there in the draft who just felt like and they
were telling us that, then you know, you and I
would bring him up. We talk about him, and there
were people who would tell us, no, he's too small,
he's too slow, he can't play. At the end, he's
a great story in Arizona State, but it's just not
going to translate to the NF. Well, it's translated to
the NFL in a really big way. Did it against
one of the best defensive lines in the NFL. Yeah,
(37:44):
I mean it's in arguable. Let's go to the phone
backlip too, he did that. Uh, let's see Panthers PSL.
Sucker is back with us on a Friday. What's up, buddy,
how are you?
Speaker 7 (37:53):
Hey?
Speaker 5 (37:53):
KB?
Speaker 9 (37:54):
I gotta say I love your segment about the baseball.
The unis those guys were wearing laugh reminded me of
my boy had the nineteen seventies and LCS when the
Phillies fans famously booed bird hooting off the field. So
I really had like a flashbag last night watching that game.
Speaker 7 (38:12):
Speaking of the Yay're great, Speaking of the seventies.
Speaker 5 (38:15):
That is my attitude about this weekend.
Speaker 9 (38:18):
When I was a little boy in the seventies, I
wanted a Johnny Lightning slot car racing set for Christmas,
and I'll say it was just at the time when
I had.
Speaker 5 (38:29):
My doubts about Santa Claus.
Speaker 9 (38:31):
But that morning I woke up and I got my
Johnny Lightning slot car racing set. And the best thing
about it was I got to believe for a little
while longer. And we all know how this season is.
Speaker 5 (38:44):
Going to end.
Speaker 9 (38:45):
But I would love it if the Panthers could just
give me a.
Speaker 5 (38:50):
Little present on Sunday and make me believe it just
a little while longer, because that's what sports is all about.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
I watched it hold on on how is the season
going to end? Tell me you've got me in baited breath.
What's what's going to happen?
Speaker 9 (39:06):
I think the season is going to end like my marriages,
in bitterness and recrimination. But I couldn't wrong.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
I heard I heard plural in there. I won't ask
any questions. Have have a great weekend, buddy. Oh wow,
with bitterness and recrimination. Wow what an answer. That's that's
that's maybe I should have dug deeper. It wouldn't have
been a nice thing to do anyway. Bitterness and recrimination
is how the Panther season ends. Steven and Hunters will
(39:36):
just ask, would you hypothetically trade Rico Dawdle for Cam Scataboat. Yes,
in a second. And it's not because I don't like
Rico Doubtle. It's because he's five years older than Scataboat
and he's on one. Yeah like what, Yeah? I like Rico,
love that he's here, Glad they brought him. But you
know when you say would you hypothetically, yeah, if I'm
getting Cam Scattaba on a rookie contract, he's making like
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one point one million dollars a year for the next
couple of years. I mean the Giants are going to
use that kid up over the next couple of years.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
Now.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
He's also probably you know, going to make some money
and endorsements, and I hope his agent is savvy and
smart and they helped put some money on his plate
in that way. But as a fourth round pick, like
this is the dream. This is what you want Dan
Morgan doing. And you know, there's some evidence that he
has done it at a couple of other places, but
you know, this is that's ideal if you're the Giants.
Not only did you get a guy who was a
(40:24):
big time college football playmaker last year off a playoff team,
who's extremely likable, plays throwback football. I mean, I'm not
trying to make light of any brain injuries at all,
but you know, one of the running jokes last night
was that camp Scattabo is going to have that old
school CTE because of the way that he plays. And
again it feels maybe a little bit insensitive, but you
get the point. He's throwback. He sticks his head in there.
He'd reckless, disregard. It's all about winning, it's all about
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making plays. He's a guy's guy, he's a man's man.
That's the way Camp Scattabo plays, so to get that
guy on a rookie contract one point one milli year
fourth rounder. Yeah, that's an easy call, but that's not
how the real world works. Matt and Greens brows up next.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
What's up? Matt?
Speaker 5 (41:04):
Hey, guys, is so Saga is talking about Santa Claus?
Can he can we get a serviceable right tackle by
Sunday morning from Santa Probably a.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
Little bit early for that.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
Let's just pray that yosh Niman can rediscover, you know,
the things that got him to the NFL for at
least four quarters.
Speaker 5 (41:22):
Yeah, that's this game I think is very there's very
little groom prayer on our part to stay in the game,
and that just one player missing our best offensive line
and probably could be the difference. But they try to
stick with the run game, that's all I know. You know,
if they can do that and keep back on the
(41:44):
sideline as much as possible, they have a chance. And
the course, you know, Bryce can't do the stupid things
he's been doing, so but I think it'll be it'll
be a close game.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
Yeah, I appreciate the phone call, Like, is it possible this?
Like the Panthers defense has a really good day on Sunday, Like,
I think that's possible.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
I also wonder if part of the reason why so
many of us, including myself, are nervous about this game
is because of what happened last year.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
Well, definitely that because they came in here and we
all thought, oh, Dak's not playing Cooper Rush as the quarterback.
That team's kind of falling apart. You should be able
to beat him. And then the defense was so bad
that Cooper Rush came in here and absolutely carved him up.
Oh Rico Downell Well Rico too. Yeah, but still but
like Cooper made some great throws last year.
Speaker 3 (42:28):
He did, and and if you go back, and I
know the defense has changed because no more Michael Parsons.
That's for next month when they go to Green Bay.
But that was one of Bryce's worst games when he
came back.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
Yes, it was. It was either edited at Denver game.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
That was the one where we were all riding high.
Bryce has figured it out, It's going to be great.
Like that was the first one where I think some
people assumed he was going to play well again and
then he didn't, and it was right back to oh, okay,
well who is this guy?
Speaker 5 (42:50):
Right?
Speaker 2 (42:51):
And then he plays well the next couple of games
down the stretch, so that that one went away and
kind of gets forgotten by some people.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
But you're absolutely right. You know, you're right. Last year's
game definitely plays a factor.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
I just don't think it's a basic level of mistrust
within this fan base for this football team. The trust,
any trust that might have been built up through the
end of last year, and even with the Falcons win
was thrown out the window with the Patriots performance, and
so people are bracing themselves for another one of those
and a Jaguars performance too to start the year. That's true,
That's fair completely. Seven o four five, seven ninety six
(43:25):
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Biggie Small says, can we talk about how good Brian
Burns looked last night? Well we did that once already today.
It's not a very fun topic. I'm kidding. Well, come back,
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Speaker 1 (00:49):
Tatan Wesley Chapel.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
As we were talking about the Kurt Signetti Indiana Hoosiers
a minute ago, They've got arguably the biggest matchup of
the weekend in college football.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Man, sure it's arguable.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Actually seven versus three at Austin Stadium in Eugene, Oregon
Ducks and Hoosier's. He said he could see Kurt Signetti
jumping to the NFL.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
I could not.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
He's never coached there at sixty four years old. I
don't think he's going to try to make that leap,
Nor do I think anyone would give him the opportunity.
But it did remind me that as I was looking
over his coaching resume once again to make sure I
didn't miss anything, that I was reminded that he both
coached he coached twice in North Carolina wolf Pack. James
had also texted him to say, come back to Raleigh. Signetti, JK,
I know it's not happening. God, Indiana makes me sick.
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Kurt Signette did once upon a time coach at NC
State as the quarterback slash tight ends coach.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
He was also back in.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Nineteen eighty five the quarterbacks and wide receivers coach at Davidson,
just up the road. So Kurt Signetti has twice been
in or three times excuse me, because you know the
whole Elon thing happened, But prior to getting to Elon,
he had been in North Carolina at least twice that
I'm aware of, coaching football. So a lot of people
missed out on what's apparently become one of the all
time great late bloomer coaching careers, if you want to
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call it that, because he didn't get his first job
until fifty years old at iup back in two thousand
and eleven.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
So you know me, Wow, I can't believe you just
did that.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
It works though, That's I don't know, buddy, that's that's
pretty debatable. We had a text earlier say, KB, can't
believe you haven't talked about Oriyan Kirkring yet for the
Phillies and the way that Dodgers game ended last night. Yeah, Dodgers,
moving on to the NLCS Oriyan Kirkring. It was one
of those moments and instances where you end up feeling
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really bad for a player on the team that your
favorite team just beat. It doesn't happen often, and I'm
sure we could come up with plenty of examples of this,
but yeah, I mean last night, eleventh inning, won one game.
Comebacker Andy pa has broken bat pench runner comes screaming
down the third base line and Oriyan Kirkering, the young reliever,
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you know, freaks out and all he had to do.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
J T.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Real Muto is pointing at him. Go one, go one,
go one. There's two outs. You get the force out
at first, it ends the inning. The run doesn't matter,
and Kirkering just loses his mind, loses composure, and Sales
won over the head of the catcher and the Dodgers
win and take the series, and Phillies fans, Philadelphia sports
fans had.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
An awful night last night. I mean, just her red
this night.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
They get beaten by seventeen by the Giants on Thursday
Night Football, and all the while, the Phillies get eliminated
by the Dodgers on one of the ugliest and most
unfortunate plays you'll ever see in that situation.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
And the Flyers got off to their season with a
loss too.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Yeah, but hey, Phillies fans, at least you went out
in style with those powder blues. Baby.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Yeah, that's true. They were well dressed. I'll give him that.
But yeah, that Kirkering ending last night. I was thinking,
it's not like the Bill Buckner thing in the World
Series is bad. We always go to Buckner because the
ball went between his legs. It's the World Series against
the Mets. They go on to like, we know that
that will always be referenced. Leon Lets fumble in the
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Super Bowl will always be referenced. But what is the time,
And I'll ask sports fans out there listening to this,
the time that you most felt for or felt sympathy
for a player on the other team, right, and it's
probably because they did something or it happened in the
midst of your team beating them. It doesn't have to be,
I guess, but the time that you most felt for
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a player on the opposing team because the mistake that
was made, what was so devastating, so embarrassing that like
the human element took over for you. Seven h four five,
seven ninety six to ten. I'll be honest with you.
The Mark Sanchez butt fumble, and he's in the news
this week. The Mark Sanchez butt fumble was hard to
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It was hilarious, absolutely hilarious. But it also immediately dawned
on me what had happened. Oh, that's gonna be He's
gonna be stuck with that for the rest of his life.
He'll be stuck with that for the rest of his career.
So that occurred to me. People will probably not feel
bad for this guy, and it's if he were anybody else.
I think more people would feel bad for Russell Wilson
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and the goal line interception in the Super Bowl. More
people would probably feel for him in that moment, that situation,
if it were anybody but Russell Wilson. Right, But he's
not the most popular guy in the world. We all
know the reasons why he's perceived to be phony, to
be inauthentic, to be all the things that folks say
about Russell Wilson, we all know what they are. So
(05:28):
I don't think that many people feel for Russell Wilson
at the end of the day. Like Chris Weber the
timeout against Carolina, that's my.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Mom always feels sorry because she was watching that live.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Yeah, and he's a young guy, you know, in that situation,
it's like, he's a young dude.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Mistakes happen.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
If you're honest with yourself, that could have been you
at twenty one years old, twenty two, it could have
been you.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
So you know that.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
I'll tell you one the replays of Jean van Dedevelt
in the ninety nine British Open.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Well, I can't watch him.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
I mean I can, but it's like through one I
gotta close one eye when I'm looking at the TV.
Ever time one of those bad cuts is shown on TV.
And the ultimate meltdown that Triple Bogey collapsed on the
eighteenth holl it's hard to watch. It's hard to watch
another human being go through that.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
I got three. Two of them happened on the same day,
and I actually was a lie for two of them
the same day. Yes, the twenty eleven NFC Championship game.
That was the forty nine Ers and Giants. Okay, just
as a precursor, I was wanting the horrible to happen
that year, and then it became the Patriots versus the Giants.
Part of the reason why Kyle Williams not the rookie
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wide receiver to Patriots. But Kyle Williams was the punt
returner for the forty nine Ers, and he fumbled the
football and that led to Lawrence Tynes kicking the game
winning field goal. And of course, unfortunately Kyle Williams got
deaf threats. And then there was this kid that gave
him a touching letter saying it's okay, everyone makes mistakes,
So Kyle Williams was one. And then that same day
(06:53):
when Billy Kundaff whiffed on the kick.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Oh yeah, both of those in the same day. But
I also speaking of kickers.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Lynn Elliott nineteen ninety five AMC Divisional game Kansas City Chiefs. Yeah,
lose the game by three. He was zero for three
on field goals. Yeah, and he gets all the blame.
Even though Steve Bono was horrid against the coltson that
was arguably the best team that Marty Schottenheimer had that year.
(07:21):
It was either that or nineteen ninety seven. So I
gotta go Lynn Elliott, Kyle Williams, and Billy Condffin. Also
fro Jackie Smith because it's arguably one of Verna lundquists
best calls. Because when he dropped the pass in the
Super Bowl against the Steelers, I think it was Super
Bowl twelve or fourteen, he said, oh my gosh, he's
got the beat a second man in America.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
If you're just tuning in, the question is after watching
a Ryan Kirkring last night, the Philadelphia Phillies young reliever,
great talent, meltdown in that moment come back or broken
bat off the bat of Andy Pajes, the Dodgers pinch
runner screaming down the third base line. All Kirkring has
to do is pick up the ball and calmly throw
at the first base like his catcher JT. Real Muto
is telling him to do, and they're out of the inning.
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But instead Kirkering freaks out airmails won over his catcher's
head ballgame. Dodgers win, they advanced, Philly season is over.
When is the most prominent time that you can recall
feeling pity for or feeling sorry for a player on
an opposing team? Seven oh four five, seven ninety six
to ten, Give me yours. I had somebody a minute
ago say Fred Brown nineteen eighty two, North Carolina, And
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it took me a second, and then I looked up
in somebody else that texted in, Oh the pass?
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Who was it? Somebody said the pass? The worthy is Oh, yeah,
that's it.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Fred Brown nineteen eighty two, the Georgetown guard who threw
the final game losing pass I guess to James Worthy,
sealing the win for North Carolina. And James Worthy, by
the way, was back in the news yesterday because he
posted a picture of himself wearing a gas house hat
reping Gastonia in North Carolina.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
So good news for the Tar Hills.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Hey, yeah, that's true. We take a phone call. What
happened over the No, someone just mentioned one that you
just mentioned.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Oh Fred Brown?
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Yeah so that and he also mentioned miracle at the
Medal Lands part one. Yeah, that's a good one, which
led to honestly built Bill Parcells getting his job. So that,
honestly and the grand scheme of things was great for
the Giants. Yeah, but Sepham Concord two great ones. First one,
John Carney River City Relay. After all those lateral passes,
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they scored a touchdown. Oh, John Carny comes out, this
is the extra point and this is back when extra
points were like at the three yard line too, so
it should have been a gimme and it kills the
Saint playoff chances. And then he mentions what I think
is the best one in the last fifteen years.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Jim Joyce. Yeah. Yeah, that one's tough because Jim Joyce
was in tears after that game. He didn't mean it either.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Well, I mean, nobody ever really means it except maybe
Angel Hernandez. But like Joyce was, it was sick. He
was in tears. He could barely contain himself. He was
so sad about what had happened. He really really was
felt bad for him. I always felt bad for him.
Where was the other one? There was another one that
came in a second. Somebody said, Matt Ryan twenty eight
to three, what Panthers, You must not be a Panther.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Fan bust that I don't think he was the main
go right.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
That was Honestly, a lot of it has to do
with Kyle Shanahan and Deontay or not Deonta Davonte formant Freeman, Yes,
for missing a block that led to the comeback really
becoming a thing.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Here's one that we can't be alone on. I don't
think I believe you'll agree with this. I always felt
sick for Steve Bartman. I really I always felt so bad.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
For Steve Bartman, so stupid that he got the brunt
of it when everyone else around him was trying to
go after that foul ball too. Fernis Freddy was the
latest one to text that in seven oh four numbers,
several others saying the same thing. I always felt really
bad for Steve Bartman. And here's a crazy thing. It's
twenty twenty five, it's been twenty two years, and that
man has still kept a low profile.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Well, I think that might also because I've thought about that.
I think that might just be his general demeanor. But still, no,
I don't age.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
I know.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
I'm not saying I'm not saying he should have to
be in hiding. No, one should believe that, especially now
that the Cubs of Wonder World. So because you're right,
they had other opportunities to win that game. It wasn't
all on it, and it was Game six. And I
think boys say slu who I'm not even blaming because
he's just in the heat of com petition, But I
think I think a lose reaction to that feeds it too,
because like he was incensed, he couldn't believe it, and
Bartman's like, he's just a fan with his headphones on,
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listening and he's trying to catch a foul ball, like
ten people around him that are trying to get the
ball to but then one of he messes up, Oh,
it's your fum again. But it's like, I understand I
lose reaction too, because he's just trying to make a.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Play and the play.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
I'm not mad at him, but I think it exacerbated
the reaction to that everybody had towards Steve Bartman. It
just it was unfortunate all the way across the board.
Uh Furness Freddy, Freddy's on fire. He took one out
of my mouth, he said. Tony Romo botched holding the playoffs. Yes,
definitely that I don't know, Yeah, I feel the same way.
Mishandled the snap chip shot field goal that would have
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won the game, and the play ended their season, of course,
and and really just added on to the years of
Tony Romo can't win big games narrative that was seven.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Seattle, by the way.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Really started it, that one right there, because it was
its first playoff game, and in the next year it was.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Which isn't fair because it's not like it's not a
traditional quarterback failure. He dropped the hold. I get it's
his responsibility when I.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Parsales was like the last coach really that still had
starting quarterbacks or backup quarterbacks holding for kicks because remember
he started two years to backup quarterback.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
His first start was here on.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Sunday Night Football and hers.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
It's funny you go back and look at that game.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Carolina had the lead going into the fourth quarter into
they scored like twenty one unanswered points to that game.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Cam not jumping on the fumble has
come in a lot on the text line and it's
a great one.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
It fits in it really did.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
It fits in perfectly with this conversation because it's exactly
how I feel about it too, and we talked about
this not that long ago. To me, it was just
a classic case of his head tying up his feet,
because as Greg Olsen and we've all said it, I
think most of us have, but Greg laid it out
again recently. I forget what podcast he was on. Might
have been with Marty Smith, might have been somebody else,
(12:50):
but it was Greg basically saying that the notion, like
I said weeks ago, the notion that that dude Cam Newton,
who never shied away from contact was the ultimate short
yardage and goal line weapon, put his body on the
line so many times, was too afraid of contact to
go get the f It's a ridiculous notion. So it's
clear what happened there, and it is exactly the example
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of feeling bad for a guy, and of course Panthers
fans should feel bad. I'm not sure this fits in
terms of the opponent feeling bad for one of the
opposing players on the other team, but yeah, if you're
not a Panthers fan, you probably could feel that way.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Which guy Randy from Orlando, Jake Deloon daring dat Arizona game. Yeah, yeah,
that one gets brought up way too often around here. Again,
it's the worst loss in franchise history. Argue with your mother.
I don't care that they've lost two Super Bowls. That
is still the worst loss in franchise history. Okay, it
just started. At started that game just like the Bill
Belichick game against TCU uh and then you already beat
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this Arizona team. It felt like it was the best
accumulation of a roster from top to bottom. And then
Jake threw four interceptions, had one fumble, and then they
gave him a big contract because Jerry or getting ready
for the lockouts, and it backfired immediately because then to arizonagain.
Then the Philly game to start the next year, he
had four turnovers two.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Somebody just asked me if Jose Conseco's head homer counts.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
No, it doesn't. What do you mean. I laugh at
that one every time I see it.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
His head was built for exactly that moment. For me, well,
the steroids helped, but like nineteen ninety three, I'll forever
remember that nineteen ninety three, Carlos Martinez hits that ball
bounces off of Conseco's head over the fence for a
home run. No, I mean, you can feel bad for
him if you want to. That was just funny Like
that one will forever be just simply hilarious. There's no
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other way to describe that. John Elways fumble came in. Yeah,
I mean, fortunately for him. They went on to win
a couple of titles later on.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
This one's for John.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
But eighty seven the fumble Cleveland AFC playoff.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Yeah, that's a good no. No, that was Ernest Way.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Huh el Wait didn't fumble it. That was Ernest when
eighty that was Ernest Beiner. What FuMB was he talking about?
Then he's talking about the fumble drive into fumble. Oh yeah,
he got me off back here, so he it benefited
Lway but didn't drop a snap. I thought he dropped
a snap. I don't remember. But at least with Ernest Spiner.
Here's the thing that kind of ticks me off. People
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talk about that Ernest Finer fumble, but yet they don't
mention to come back when he was with Washington, when
he won the Super Bowl and was one of the
key components of that Super Bowl team.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Okay, Ernest Finder had a comeback. Yeah that happened. We'll
clear it up.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
During the break, I'll ask him exactly what he meant.
Seven oh four or five seven ninety six ten, We'll
come back. We'll talk to Marty Snyder, Panthers PSL owner,
first and foremost, but most known for his time with NASCAR, NBC, Amazon,
Turner Studio host Pitt Reporter Marty Snyder, Our Good Buddies
back next. Sports Radio ninety two to seven wfn Z.
(15:54):
Who was the last time you took pity on an
opposing player for making a massive, massive mistake in a game?
Seven four, five, seven ninety six ten, talking about that
after last night in the Dodgers Phillies series finale, Dodgers
win it, they move on O'Ryan Kirkring, the young Phillies reliever,
made a grave error in a mistake last night overthrow
(16:14):
to his catcher JT. Real Muto, who was urging his
young pitcher on the soft comeback or just to pick
it up and go to first to end the ending.
But Kirkering had a moment, and we've seen guys that
you just don't think it's gonna happen. To guys at
that level, you don't expect it to happen. It's one
thing to have a ball bounced through your legs, you know,
or to miss a wide open shot or something along
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those lines. But like it was a purely mental thing
last night with kirkering where he should have known where
to go with the ball. It should have been automatic.
I don't know what was going through his mind.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
It was.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
It was very much kind of the baseball version of
Cam Newton not jumping on the fumble. Head tied up
his feet and his body just did something else entirely,
and he airmailed it over real Muto's head. Dodgers scored.
Dodgers win, and that's the end of the Philly season.
And we do have people on the text line saying, oh,
what terrible for Phillies, what a great What couldn't have
happened to a better city? You know, so on and
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so forth, And I get it, I do. I mean,
we've got a lot of where's Philly Nate today on
the text line too. I have no idea. Philadelphia had
a really tough sports night last night. But let's be real,
we can't mock them too much. They are the defending
NFL champs, so you know, there's that, and the Phillies
were good. But yeah, Zach and Miami texted end to say,
are we all coming to terms with the fact that
Dodgers are going to win the World Series again? Well, listen,
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I like the sound of that, but I'm not entirely
convinced of it just yet.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
I will say, if the Brewer crew gets if they
don't completely blow this here because they lost Game four
last night to the Cubbies, but if they have to
go against the Brewers, that's gonna be a tough matchup,
just because the Brewers pitching staff from top to bottom,
I'd argue, is the best out. It's either m or Seattle.
And plus Seattle is going to be hard if they
win this game tonight against the Tigers, They're going to
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be a hard out because of their pitching staff too.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
It's just.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
I want to see the Mariners win for multiple reasons,
basically rooting for the brew Crew or the Manaers, just
because it would be awesome for the Brewers to win
it for Bob Uker, and just they've been so close
so many times.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
And I'd also love to see the Manners win it
because A.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Cal Rawley, yeah, the big Dumper, and b I'd love
to see the analytical Nerds lose their minds over a
team that's batting like around two thirty two to forty
to a whole year, win a World Series, like yeah,
take that nerves well, you know, plus they got some
power bats too. It's not only just cal Raley Randy
Rose Arena. That trade last year has worked out great
for them. You Hineo Suarez. You know, he's not been
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the same since he got traded to Seattle again, but
he's still got a power bat too. Julio Rodriguez has
been playing good, and plus they've gotten like Jorgey Plonco's
had a good year too.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Jeez, I can't believe I knewiced much about the managers.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
I was gonna, Yeah, it's you know, it's impressive, it
really is. Now, speaking of that, somebody called in. I
think it was an older gentleman called in to heat
praise on Smoke before his ridiculous sports memory, because I
read a text where a Texter said John Elway fumble,
and I think it was nineteen eighty seven or something
along those lines, and you were absolutely right that Ernest
Binder was the one that fumbled that football. And so
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I read the text and I was like, wait a minute.
I don't know what he's talking about here, and you
went straight to Ernest Binder, and that caller called in
and said that he was just really impressed by you
and your memory, which I love. I'm glad that he
called in to acknowledge you. But I also wonder where
he's been because you've been at this for a while.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Well, dat, and I mentioned Jackie Smith, who as the
sickest man in America?
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Is that what it was?
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Because he dropped a pass into Super Bowl and to
shootout between Stallback and the Steelers and Verne Lundquist, who
was devoice of the Cowboys at the time. Yeah, dropped
the line, Oh my gosh, God bless him. He's got
to be the sickest man in America right now. I
love you, Vern, all right.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Real quick, heads up for the NASCAR fans, I apologize
this has really not happened. We thought it would maybe
happen a little bit more this season than it has.
Marty Snyder has had to bail last minute his flight
to Las Vegas for this week. South point four hundred
is a problem, and so Marty's trying to get himself
from here to Las Vegas. Flights became an issue, and
he and I talked about this before the season began,
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that there might some instances where he's traveling to races
on Friday and it could be a problem for us. Fortunately,
it hasn't really been a problem throughout the course of
the season already. But today Marty's gonna have to bail
last minute because he's trying to make sure he gets
on a plane on time to get to Las Vegas
for this weekend's playoff race.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
So it's gonna say the only time that happened was
Mexico City, and you know it's did long trips that
I think really gets you.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, so makes sense. It's about a
four or five hour flight. So we wish him the best.
We'll talk to Marty next week here on the show
seven oh four or five, seven ninety six, ten Todd
from Detroit said the play last night, the Kirkering play,
had his wife talking to herself this morning. That's gotta
be tough. Yeah, that's that's rough, man. That's a really
horrible way to bow out of the playoffs, especially when
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you're a team. People felt like the Phillies were the
better team going into the series. I mean, I was
in one of them. But I think people, rightfully some did,
thought that Philadelphia was the better team and the Dodgers
didn't even hit in that series. Like that lineup puts
so much pressure on you top to bottom, and it
was the bottom half of their lineup that won the
series for them. Showe Otani was one for seven team
in the series and they still walked him last night.
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So I mean, it was the bottom half of the
lineup that really did the damage against Philadelphia, and they're
just left kind of scratching their heads up there in
Philly today, like how are we not still in this thing?
Speaker 4 (21:11):
That?
Speaker 3 (21:11):
And you know is crazy how that the pitching really
wasn't a problem. It's just the bats never woke up
for the Phillies outside of Game three, yep.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
I mean that's the other thing too, is that it's
one thing credit to Phillies manager, to JT. Real Muto,
to Castellanos, to a couple of guys who came right
to the aid of Kirk Ring last night, not that
he needed, you know, medical aid, but like they came
right to him because they understood he was going to
put that on himself, and it is kind of on him.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
He did make the play.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
But the fact that that lineup produced one run in
eleven innings in an elimination game is the real problem
for Philadelphia last week.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
That the bound of money, with all.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
The money that you spent on that lineup to produce
one run in eleven innings in an elimination game, that's
the actual problem with what happened to you last night.
So I feel for Kirk Ring, but they probably deserved
to lose the game anyway, and that's what happened last
all right. Well, we opened up a segment with Marty
Snyder not being able to join us today, and we
actually ran really long in the previous segment having fun
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with people you took pity on.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
So let's do it. It's time for the best audio
in sports. What did you say?
Speaker 5 (22:14):
You?
Speaker 1 (22:14):
What? What did you say? Wait a minute, sit me right?
Speaker 3 (22:20):
What I mean by that is all right?
Speaker 1 (22:23):
What you got over there.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Hopefully we don't have to take pity on Rico Dawdle
this Sunday, as he's going to be the starting running
back yet again with Cuba Hubbard out, and this is
a big game for Rico. He's going against his former
team and a team that took a chance on him
after his college career when he went undrafted into Dallas Cowboys.
Earlier this week, he said that Dallas should have their
seat belts ready, and he discussed his mindset yesterday heading
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into such a big game in his career.
Speaker 6 (22:46):
Just matchup another game happens to be the Cowboys and
definitely looking forward to it up though last week, Yeah, no,
they got to buckle up. No, stant On that that
was just meaning it's gonna be a very physical game
for Mayann. I know, for Mayenn, just take pride in that. Yeah,
bucket them, chance drops up tight and I will be coming.
Speaker 7 (23:03):
Shot times or incentive I mean playing against I know
you you said, you know, hey, they gave you five years,
but yet still they didn't you're sign yet?
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Yeah, is there a little bit that.
Speaker 7 (23:17):
You know you kind of went enough to pay back,
but you know you want to show them that.
Speaker 6 (23:21):
You know, the pay if he made mistake. For sure,
I definitely want to go out there and have a
good game versus of them. But I mean they did
allow me to live out my dream for my five
years there, so I mean no hard feelings. Is the
nature of the business or why I didn't return there?
There was no offer made, so definitely be looking forward
to prove it to them.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Yeah, I heard Newton there with you. What's it like?
Speaker 5 (23:40):
Like?
Speaker 1 (23:40):
So it's funny.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
It feels like every time we build up one of
these narratives, player facing his old team, bad defense coming
in should be opportunities for the offense. Like it feels
like every time we build up one of these narratives,
it goes the opposite way, right, and unless it happens
to our teams, yeah, correct, But like around here for us,
we're looking at teams coming in matchup storylines and it's
like we think this might happen, and sometimes we're right,
(24:05):
but sometimes it goes the exact opposite way. And I'm
glad to hear Rico kind of downplaying it a little
bit right there, like, Hey, it's the nature of the business, Okay,
he can and should be in his own mind feeling
you don't want me, you didn't think I was worth
keeping around, Like using that as feel and motivation.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
That's a good thing.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
No reason to talk about it too much, No reason
to get Dallas fired up on the other side about it.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
You don't need that.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
And because of Dallas's defense being as poor as it is,
there's a clear opportunity for him to have a very
big day. Do I think he goes for two bills?
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Again? Probably not?
Speaker 2 (24:40):
But do I think he can go for a buck
twenty five and a touchdown on Sunday? Absolutely That's what
I'm looking for out of Rico Dowdle on Sunday. Like
I don't think it's unfair to ask for another hundred
yard rushing performance at all out of Rico Doubtele on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Absolutely not. And I say that.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
To also point out that Dave Knalis should be willing
to feed that man the rock to the level that
he's nearly guaranteed one hundred yard rushing performance on Sunday
because this Cowboys defense will permit that. So I think
if he comes away with anything less than one hundred
yards on Sunday in this game, it's going to be
a massive disappointment, quite honestly. I mean, Dallas is giving
up one twenty seven on the ground, and I think
(25:16):
Dalla can make him pay in a big way Sunday.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
What else you got, all right? Well, another big factor
into this game.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
More for our listeners and the people here at WF
and Z is how's Fitty going to react? Because if
you haven't been keeping up, Fitty was a Panthers fan
as a kid, didn't turn into a Cowboys fan about
ten years ago, full fully because of his dad, And
now this allseason after doing the flip flop last offseason,
he's back to being a Panthers fan.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
And so far, Kyle, I've been watching the games with him.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
He has been fully supporting Carolina, not watching Dallas games.
Even had Bryce Young Jersey on on Sunday, so I heard.
But this is a real test because CAROLINEA is now
playing Dallas. Well based on the morning show, I think
he showed us where his allegiance is lie heading into
this Sunday's game.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Clue, Yeah, what happened to him? What happened to him?
Speaker 5 (26:02):
Fit?
Speaker 8 (26:03):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (26:03):
I think got some Walmart Pault connection.
Speaker 8 (26:05):
Baby, get your ass back to Gastonia.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
We're all the Cowboy fan's gonna be as they lose
on Sunday.
Speaker 8 (26:11):
Phult connection ol dak Prescott Ow Panthers went in on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
We taken dakown Baby. That boy's craft twin? What do
you guys say about that?
Speaker 4 (26:21):
Twin?
Speaker 1 (26:21):
By twin twin? Where'd you go. He hung up, hung up.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Lloyd the Cowboys fan, No no, no, Cowboy twin, Cowboy twin.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
And that was sir Loina be Oh.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
I got you because I heard part of it live
this morning. I thought they were at the end, that
I had missed the fact they didn't actually hang.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Up on him.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Fiddy's voice squeaking was hysterical, hysterical. I believe him, I do.
I believe him. I've been looking for signs this year.
I really have.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
I've been looking for signs. I do think he's fully converted. Now.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
I'll forgive him for what he did last year, the
okie dog, pretending that he was going to do this.
I'm sure it's not easy, okay, but man, if they
win this game. Wolf Peck James says, I want his
whale tail showing on Sunday. Is it Sunday or Monday?
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Monday?
Speaker 2 (27:19):
I don't want to see it, but I do need
it to happen. Does that make sense? I will, I
can't watch it. I do not want to see Fitty
in a thong. I will avoid that like the plague.
But it does need to happen. But I believe him,
right what else you got?
Speaker 5 (27:34):
All right?
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Moving to college football, you know, despite beating Alabama to
start the year, Florida State is three and two and
they got an intriguing game against pitt coming up tomorrow
at noon. And let's just say that people in Tallahassee
are extremely nervous about this game, as Jeff Cameron, host
of The Jeff Cameron's Show, said, if they lose again
and go from three to oh to three and three,
(27:55):
hell is about to come to Tallahassee, or physically because
we can't afford to cut. But you're done.
Speaker 8 (28:01):
If you lose this PIT game, that'd be three straight
losses in the ACC. He's lost nine of his last
ten ACC games. What the hell are we talking about?
It's the ACC. We need to go to the SEC
where we can beat people. You know, we beat LSU
no problem, twice, beat Alabama no problem, but we can't
beat an ACC team to save our life. Apparently we
(28:22):
gotta get out of this god forsakingly difficult conference.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
You know, I mean, what was it?
Speaker 8 (28:27):
SMU, Clemson, Duke, Miami, North Carolina, Virginia, Miami again, God dog, Mike,
it's the ACC, sweet Jesus man.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
You know, it's a competitive league.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
What's he mad about that they can't win to the ACC?
I mean, I know what he said, but like, what
are you mad about?
Speaker 1 (28:58):
We're going from three to o to three and three
is no good for Florida.
Speaker 7 (29:00):
It's not.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
But what did you say? Let's be honest.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
The Bama wins shocked everybody, put everybody on tilt to
start the season, and so yes, our perception of Florida
State did change a little bit. But I got scoffed
at by a couple of listeners. What was it last week?
I guess before the Miami game where I'd asked, I
think it was Eric McLain or somebody else, like, you know,
is this a real heavyweight matchup? Can Florida State hang?
(29:24):
And somebody was like, what do you mean? Can they hang?
Didn't you see what they did to Bama? And I'm like, yeah,
but it was week one. We've seen flucush results in
week one. We don't know what they are yet. They
still have a quarterback that can't throw the football at
a high level. I just don't know what they are.
Was the point. I thought they were better than we
believed originally because they did beat Bama. But they beat
up on a couple of cupcakes. So anyway, I get
(29:45):
the point. He's upset. He's allowed to be upset. I
don't know in this kind of what we thought Florida
State was picked to finish near.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
The bottom of this conference prior to the start of
the season, Well, we didn't have any trust in Tommy castlanas.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Too correct correct, So I mean it's piece of audio
right there. But I mean you're allowed to be frustrated.
Did you really think they were suddenly national title contenders overnight?
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Well, given Florida State fans, sometimes I think they probably.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Did maybe, And it's a way I'm not mad at
them for getting excited, but we have to go back
to original preseason expectations for Florida State and what we
thought they would be. And even though it's not how
you thought you'd get there, Virginia's better than people thought.
Virginia went to Louisville and one that was an affirming
win for Virginia. Virginia can go to Charlotte in a
(30:33):
couple one percent. Virginia can do that. Yes, they can
do that. So this is kind of where Florida State
expected to be, just not how they thought they'd be there.
That's what did you say? The best audio in the
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Speaker 3 (30:49):
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Speaker 1 (30:58):
To lose is the pain.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
And speaking of friends from the past and a guy
who has beaten Florida State in his career, Sean Levitt,
he had a quarterback at Arizona State, is unlikely to
play for Arizona State as they have a big matchup
against Utah.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
I know what you're about to tell me, and I
I'm in shock too. Go ahead and finish your thought.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
But it's a quarterback for Arizona State, barring a miracle,
is going to be Jeff Simms. Now, if that name
sounds familiar to you, it probably is because he was
the quarterback at Georgia Tech when Jeff Collins was the
head coach. Yep, he was during the COVID year they
beat Florida State. I think that was the first game
of the year he did. After that didn't work it out,
(31:41):
he didn't went to Nebraska, was the first quarterback for
Matt Ruhle at Nebraska started because his first year was
the COVID year. He has one more year and he's
at Arizona State, starting in what could be one of
the biggest games of the year for the Sun Devils
against Utah.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
He's actually been there for a year and a half.
He transferred in in May of twenty twenty four. But yeah,
it feels that was one of those where when you
sent that to me, I was like, Oh, how like
I forgot that he was even Still it's in part
because he's been there since the spring of twenty twenty four.
He's only twenty three, but it feels like he should
be much old. I kiss he wasn't.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
I think he either reclassified or he was extremely young
when he came out of high school to college because
it was twenty twenties.
Speaker 5 (32:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Yeah, twenty three is still incredibly young considering how long
he's been football. But yeah, Jeff Sims still starting college
football games in the Year of Our Lord twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
To steal a line from rely, Pee, there you go,
We'll come back.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
We'll tell you who bought out Nate Wimberley and Studio
in nineteen minutes A lot to get to sports Radio
ninety two to seven wfn Z.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
Sety get on your feet, Hello, look for Chip twelve
for the years.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Can you get to the buck? He's got to come
down to the back to marsh, running into the area.
It'll pass to.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
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Speaker 1 (33:20):
It's time for who balled out?
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Speaker 1 (33:31):
I gotta go with Ian Half.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
He only went one for five from the plate, but
that one hit was massive, a three run homer to
set the stage for the Cubs to win Game four
of the NLDS against the Milwaukee Brewers, forcing a game
fight between what has really become a pretty big robbery
in the MLB over the last year and a half.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
I'm going with you, boy, cam Skataboo, who last night
registered three rushing touchdowns ninety eight total yards rushing and
captured the hearts of America again on Thursday Night football
in the Giants upset win over the Eagles thirty four seventeen.
The tandem of Cam Scataboo and Jackson Dart. I mean,
(34:11):
I don't know how long it lasts. I don't know
if it's got real staying power. But Giants fans the
airwaves of New York today are just giddy after that win,
as they should be. By the way, the way that
Cam scatabo plays has rubbed off on Jackson Dart. Darts
out there throwing his body around with wanton disregard for
his own safety and long term health. The jokes that
(34:32):
are coming out of it last night are incredible. I
saw someone earlier this morning joking that those two guys
were going to have a meeting after the game last night,
but it only consisted of them doing finishing wrestling moves
off each other on the couch. Because it's a couple
of bros in the backfield together going at it. And
it's also an interesting conversation. Cam Scattabo, who's a Sacramento
State transfer into Arizona State, unless you forgot his story
(34:55):
from last year in the playoffs, fourth round draft pick
one oh five overall, and there were some Panthers fans
who were really interested in this kid. You were one
of them say, and I loved him too, I really did,
and I thought that, you know, but we all said
to the point, there were a lot of people who
told us, yeah, but he's too slow. Yeah but he's
too slow and too small. You know, he's not he
(35:15):
can't run over people the way that he did. And
it's like, yeah, I don't. I don't know about that.
And that's exactly what he's been doing. That's what he
did last night on primetime to one of the most
physical teams in all of football. So it was a
coming out moment for him and confirmation that that kid
absolutely belongs in the NFL and doesn't just belong, but
(35:37):
can be potentially very special player in the NFL. And
I go back, Panthers picked at seventy seven. They got that,
you know, the pick from Atlanta for prince Lely, Uman,
Miellen and Scatabo goes at pick one oh five in
that draft. I think the Princely pick for the Panthers
smoke crack if I'm wrong. Seventy seven and then where
(36:00):
did they pick again? One fourteen is when they took
Trevor etn And.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
Let's be honest, you know, Trevor atn looked pretty good
last week too, and he did role and I think
there's he's more of a long term play. But we're
talking about the Rico doubt on how he needs to
get a lot of touches. I wouldn't mind seeing a
little bit more touches for et In as well, just
to see now special teams. You know, still not over
that muff punt he had against the Falcons, but I
(36:25):
think that you can have Trevor et and do some
do some of the same stuff that he did too,
that Rico Dawdle did this past weekend, and you can
have him do it to the Dallas defense as well.
I think, I honestly think last year a lot of
those guys on that Georgia offense were maybe being held back.
I'm not I know Colin will defend it, but I'm
not the biggest fan of Mike Bobo as an offensive coordinator.
(36:45):
And based on how Carson Beck's playing at Miami right now,
and how Trevor et In outside of the muff plunt
played in the preseason and has played in the regular season,
technically had more rushing yards than the Dolphins last week,
I wouldn't mind seeing Trevor Eten get a couple more
touches too, So it's not like you completely lost out
by not getting camp Scattabo.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Okay, yeah, so I'm looking at it.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
Pick one oh four, Jacksonville took Basil Tuton, who I loved.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
As matter of fact, he's been good too.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
You know, two of the backs I love the most
came off the board back to back. Tooton went off
one O four and the very next pick was camp
Scattabo at one O five.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
I just.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
I would love to know the people who were out
there in the draft who just felt like and they
were telling us that, then you know, you and I
would bring him up. We talk about him, and there
were people who would tell us, no, he's too small,
he's too slow, he can't play. At the end, he's
a great story in Arizona State, but it's just not
going to translate to the NF. Well, it's translated to
the NFL in a really big way. Did it against
one of the best defensive lines in the NFL. Yeah,
(37:44):
I mean it's in arguable. Let's go to the phone
backlip too, he did that. Uh, let's see Panthers PSL.
Sucker is back with us on a Friday. What's up, buddy,
how are you?
Speaker 7 (37:53):
Hey?
Speaker 5 (37:53):
KB?
Speaker 9 (37:54):
I gotta say I love your segment about the baseball.
The unis those guys were wearing laugh reminded me of
my boy had the nineteen seventies and LCS when the
Phillies fans famously booed bird hooting off the field. So
I really had like a flashbag last night watching that game.
Speaker 7 (38:12):
Speaking of the Yay're great, Speaking of the seventies.
Speaker 5 (38:15):
That is my attitude about this weekend.
Speaker 9 (38:18):
When I was a little boy in the seventies, I
wanted a Johnny Lightning slot car racing set for Christmas,
and I'll say it was just at the time when
I had.
Speaker 5 (38:29):
My doubts about Santa Claus.
Speaker 9 (38:31):
But that morning I woke up and I got my
Johnny Lightning slot car racing set. And the best thing
about it was I got to believe for a little
while longer. And we all know how this season is.
Speaker 5 (38:44):
Going to end.
Speaker 9 (38:45):
But I would love it if the Panthers could just
give me a.
Speaker 5 (38:50):
Little present on Sunday and make me believe it just
a little while longer, because that's what sports is all about.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
I watched it hold on on how is the season
going to end? Tell me you've got me in baited breath.
What's what's going to happen?
Speaker 9 (39:06):
I think the season is going to end like my marriages,
in bitterness and recrimination. But I couldn't wrong.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
I heard I heard plural in there. I won't ask
any questions. Have have a great weekend, buddy. Oh wow,
with bitterness and recrimination. Wow what an answer. That's that's
that's maybe I should have dug deeper. It wouldn't have
been a nice thing to do anyway. Bitterness and recrimination
is how the Panther season ends. Steven and Hunters will
(39:36):
just ask, would you hypothetically trade Rico Dawdle for Cam Scataboat. Yes,
in a second. And it's not because I don't like
Rico Doubtle. It's because he's five years older than Scataboat
and he's on one. Yeah like what, Yeah? I like Rico,
love that he's here, Glad they brought him. But you
know when you say would you hypothetically, yeah, if I'm
getting Cam Scattaba on a rookie contract, he's making like
(39:56):
one point one million dollars a year for the next
couple of years. I mean the Giants are going to
use that kid up over the next couple of years.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
Now.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
He's also probably you know, going to make some money
and endorsements, and I hope his agent is savvy and
smart and they helped put some money on his plate
in that way. But as a fourth round pick, like
this is the dream. This is what you want Dan
Morgan doing. And you know, there's some evidence that he
has done it at a couple of other places, but
you know, this is that's ideal if you're the Giants.
Not only did you get a guy who was a
(40:24):
big time college football playmaker last year off a playoff team,
who's extremely likable, plays throwback football. I mean, I'm not
trying to make light of any brain injuries at all,
but you know, one of the running jokes last night
was that camp Scattabo is going to have that old
school CTE because of the way that he plays. And
again it feels maybe a little bit insensitive, but you
get the point. He's throwback. He sticks his head in there.
He'd reckless, disregard. It's all about winning, it's all about
(40:47):
making plays. He's a guy's guy, he's a man's man.
That's the way Camp Scattabo plays, so to get that
guy on a rookie contract one point one milli year
fourth rounder. Yeah, that's an easy call, but that's not
how the real world works. Matt and Greens brows up next.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
What's up? Matt?
Speaker 5 (41:04):
Hey, guys, is so Saga is talking about Santa Claus?
Can he can we get a serviceable right tackle by
Sunday morning from Santa Probably a.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
Little bit early for that.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
Let's just pray that yosh Niman can rediscover, you know,
the things that got him to the NFL for at
least four quarters.
Speaker 5 (41:22):
Yeah, that's this game I think is very there's very
little groom prayer on our part to stay in the game,
and that just one player missing our best offensive line
and probably could be the difference. But they try to
stick with the run game, that's all I know. You know,
if they can do that and keep back on the
(41:44):
sideline as much as possible, they have a chance. And
the course, you know, Bryce can't do the stupid things
he's been doing, so but I think it'll be it'll
be a close game.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
Yeah, I appreciate the phone call, Like, is it possible this?
Like the Panthers defense has a really good day on Sunday, Like,
I think that's possible.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
I also wonder if part of the reason why so
many of us, including myself, are nervous about this game
is because of what happened last year.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
Well, definitely that because they came in here and we
all thought, oh, Dak's not playing Cooper Rush as the quarterback.
That team's kind of falling apart. You should be able
to beat him. And then the defense was so bad
that Cooper Rush came in here and absolutely carved him up.
Oh Rico Downell Well Rico too. Yeah, but still but
like Cooper made some great throws last year.
Speaker 3 (42:28):
He did, and and if you go back, and I
know the defense has changed because no more Michael Parsons.
That's for next month when they go to Green Bay.
But that was one of Bryce's worst games when he
came back.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
Yes, it was. It was either edited at Denver game.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
That was the one where we were all riding high.
Bryce has figured it out, It's going to be great.
Like that was the first one where I think some
people assumed he was going to play well again and
then he didn't, and it was right back to oh, okay,
well who is this guy?
Speaker 5 (42:50):
Right?
Speaker 2 (42:51):
And then he plays well the next couple of games
down the stretch, so that that one went away and
kind of gets forgotten by some people.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
But you're absolutely right. You know, you're right. Last year's
game definitely plays a factor.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
I just don't think it's a basic level of mistrust
within this fan base for this football team. The trust,
any trust that might have been built up through the
end of last year, and even with the Falcons win
was thrown out the window with the Patriots performance, and
so people are bracing themselves for another one of those
and a Jaguars performance too to start the year. That's true,
That's fair completely. Seven o four five, seven ninety six
(43:25):
to ten. Hit us up on the fan duel text line,
Biggie Small says, can we talk about how good Brian
Burns looked last night? Well we did that once already today.
It's not a very fun topic. I'm kidding. Well, come back,
Nate Wimberley, WBTV, back in studio Friday conversation. It's the
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