November 25, 2025 • 42 mins
In hour 2 of the show, Kyle reacts to the Panthers being without Safety Tre'von Moehrig after his below-the-belt punch late in Monday's game, and Ryan McGee drops by to preview the potential chaos in college football for rivalry week.
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
You were listening to the Kyle Bailey Show, powered by
Victory Chevy Charlotte, where just nineteen dollars down could put
you in a brand new Chevrolet.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Today Wow our number two sports radio ninety two to
seven wfn Z emanating live from the Chandler Volta studios
to Carolina's personal injury lawyers. One call, that's all go
(00:31):
to CV Injurylaw dot com. That's Cvinjurylaw dot Com. Ryan McGee,
ESPN senior writer, one half of Marty and McGee, College
Game Day contributor, and SEC Network personality as well. He's
back in twenty minutes talk a lot of college football
with him. The latest iteration of the college football playoff
rankings will come out tonight. How will the committee handle things?
(00:53):
So you look like you want to jump in already smoke?
What are you thinking over there?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Well, to kind of get off of what Colin said
earlier today on Charlotte Sports Today, I swear to God
if Missouri's still is calling in New Yorker now, I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
I just like saying it that way.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
If Missouri is still in the top twenty five, the
committee needs to be investigated from getting payments from the
SEC because there is no way on Godge Greener for
no offense willip that Missouri willip, I mean, Missouri's all right,
but they're not really good good. Sure, their quarterback sucks.
Ok they can't throw the ball. They can run the ball,
but they can't throw it. Gotcha, No way in Godge
(01:28):
Greener for after they got shut down in Stonewall by
Brent Vinibles.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Should they be in the top twenty five?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Yeah, okay, no, to help resumes are certain SEC squals
all but we saw it last year with some Big
ten teams too, that were snuck into the back end
of the top twenty five to help strengthen schedules.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
It felt very arbitrary.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
So yeah, and teams like JMU can't get into top
twenty five and they'll say, oh, well, they barely beat
Washington State, the same Washington State team that gave Ole
miss all they could handle and also gave Virginia all
they could handle.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Okay, yeah, a lot of self fulfilling logic in this.
I agree. I agree. I also got a funny text.
We'll come back to the college football stuff and I'm
coming to the phone lines in a second, TC, says
Isaiah Simmons is finally a Panther. I still have hope
the Hornets will get Miles Turner. If you missed it
during the last segment, news broke first of all two
(02:20):
pieces of news breaking today on the show. Trayvon Merrick
has been suspended for a game after he punched Juwan
Jennings in the crotch. And so that's to be expected,
you know, somebody earlier said, well, West says that stuff
happens all the time on the football field. It does,
but you can't get caught. And when you get caught,
you're gonna get suspended. Especially as a dB, you're more
(02:40):
out in the open. Yeah, I'll go ahead say this.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Hold on.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
The second thing, though, is Isaiah Simmons is now a
Carolina Panther. We can't gloss over that. The second piece
of breaking news is that Isaiah Simmons, who played I
believe seventeen games with the Giants last year, has signed
with the Carolina Panthers, presumably to play linebacker, because well
last night, after multiple injuries, Carolina was down to its
fourth and fifth linebackers illave the end of the twenty
twenty four season, so they have signed Isaiah Simmons. He
(03:06):
is finally a Panther. After weeks and weeks and weeks
of fighting amongst the fan base prior to the twenty
twenty NFL Draft, the folks that either wanted Derek Brown
or Isaiah Simmons smokes raising his hand. I was a
Derek Brown guy. Isaiah Simmons, five years later, has finally
made his way to the Carolina Panthers roster. So congratulations
to all of you who wanted him terribly.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Technically got both wish both came here and are playing
on the same defense at the same time.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
That's great. I will say.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
So.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
If Isaiah Simmons becomes a Panther, Miles Turner can actually
become a Hornet and State fans, I haven't forgotten about you.
Bill Cower could be the next head coach of the
wolf Pack. Baby, let's go. It's possible.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Baby.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
I love that you're still making that joke in twenty
twenty five. If is there a similar joke that we
can make? Is there something else we've been waiting for
for years that hasn't happened yet? Bill Cower is head
coaching at Carolina. That's the one that's good. That's the one.
I like that one. I like that one too, all right?
Seven oh four five seven ninety six ten Beer to
State said gotta love the peanuts punch. I don't if
you gotta love it. We had a text he here,
Beanie Wheney's very appropriate, says, but what about Juwan Jennings.
(04:09):
Did he get suspended for retaliation? I've not seen anything yet.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
He'll get fine, but he won't get considering that they've
already announced the suspension for Trayvon merreg Yeah, they would
have announced the suspension for Jwan Jennings at the same time.
They would have, but we're gonna get a notification on
Saturday afternoon while we're watching college football that he's been fined.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
And how mad can you get at a guy for
responding or retaliating to that? Like I said earlier, I
have to tell my three year old constantly right now,
my son, buddy, we don't punch other boys in the wiener.
That's what Trayvon Mehrak just did on national TV. So
of course the dude's going to respond to that. Somebody
punched you in the wiinner. What would you do, I mean,
after you stood up, you'd respond.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
It's just like what we saw last week between another
dB and wide receiver. We all thought Jalen Ramsey was
the biggest idiot on the earth, and then we've realized, Oh,
Jamar Chase spat in his face. Okay, he's probably gonna
get fine, but he he was within is right, even
though he had a helmet all to try and punch
the guy off the helmet. Yeah, so it's one of
those situations. I think Jalen Ramsey got fined. So, yeah,
(05:08):
Jawan Jennings will get fined, but he's not going to
get suspended. That's true, and that's the right decision by
the NFL for that.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Yeah, Eric says, l ol KB, I can't believe you
said wiener on the radio like six times already today.
We were all adults. You mean, use clinical terms to
make it awkward. I don't think we can even say
to he punched him on the penis, like you mean
to do that? You can say it's a clinical term, smoke.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
I thought that was one of the words that we
couldn't have on the radio. Did you dumped me for that?
Speaker 5 (05:32):
No?
Speaker 2 (05:33):
I didn't. Okay, it's not on the list over there.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Is it.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
I thought at one point it was. Now it's a
clinical term, like it's weird if I do that. So
I just, you know, I say the thing that we
all say to our kids. Let's go to the phone line.
Seven o four Tyler, I thought Smoke was going to
have a heart attack. Good lord, seven o four Tyler
is up first. What's going on?
Speaker 6 (05:48):
Tyler?
Speaker 2 (05:48):
How are you?
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Hey?
Speaker 5 (05:50):
What's going on?
Speaker 4 (05:50):
KB?
Speaker 5 (05:51):
And Smoke ahead? You guys having a great day. Yes, sir,
I'm still a covering on the way you just said
punched him in the penis. I'm sorry that was that
was last listen. No, I'm actually huge on the Isaiah
Simmons pick up. I was big on him and climps
and I'm real happy about that. But I heard you
mentioned earlier in the show that you your wife got
(06:12):
into it or whatever because she doesn't like being around
you or whatnot.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Oh no, but I can't be spreading false rumors about
my wife and I having domestic issues. No, she just
thought I was nuts for being irritated at the game
last night, so she went to go watch her own show.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
Yeah, okay, okay, well mine apparently last night was her
last night not only watching the game with me, but
even being in the same room as me, because she
she looked at me with the most genuinely concerned face
and said, why do you care so much about watching
football if it does this to you? And I didn't
know how to respond. You know, I said, basically, it's
(06:46):
called being a Carolina Panthers fan. But you know, it
is what it is. We do what we can. But yeah,
like I say, I just had to get out of
and get that out there. I'm big on the Isaiah
Simmons pickup, and you know, I hope you guys have
a great work the day. That's all I got.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Thank you, iler appreciate the phone call. Why are we
that way? Why are we that way as people? As men?
I don't know. It's well, I kind of view it
as it's all about to chase. Is that what it is?
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Yeah, to chase, even the ups and downs, once you
finally get to the point in a mountaintop, it's worth it.
Why do you think the best stories in sport? Like
why do you think Rocky was so successful?
Speaker 2 (07:21):
See I flip it back on my wife and I'm like,
this is evidence that I'll never cheat on you, you know that, right?
It's like, what are you talking about like I've heard
it for the same damn team since I was seven
years old, and all they do is bring me pain
and suffering, and I'm still loyal. So, like, I mean,
if that's not evidence that I'm never going to cheat
on you, I don't know what is. I'm a loyal guy.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Amen to that. I'm a Western Carolina Hornets and Panthers fan.
What more loyalty can you get? So I'm saying like
they don't get more loyal than that. Back to the
phone lines. Kareem ab Dul Jabbar is up next. Not Jabbar.
I'm sorry, not Jabbar. What's going on?
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Kareem? What's going on doing it today? You know?
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Fair to Midland man, I.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Put it in. It takes messages today, cow. I just
wanted us to put up a good show. So let
me cook for a minute on what they put up
on the.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Spring cook away.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
So Dave Canalis really had to decide if he wants
to be a play caller or head coach. There are very, very,
very few like It's good as my guy in Kansas
City was. Whenever he's in Kansas City and in Philly,
he's always had him a offensive coordinator to someone has
(08:31):
to be calling those players. You can put the game
play together and all those things, but when the game
day and the real bullets are out there, you need
to be able to lucidly, be able to concentrate on
several different things, and play calling isn't one of them.
That play call that caused that first interception ridiculous, Absolutely
no reason you run. You don't run the ball on
(08:53):
first and goal from the goal line. And then the
thing that made me feel like Canalis is really trying
to show his kind of cut his teeth a little
bit with this play calling stuff. And he's on Monday
night football, and I mean, we're all human. I think
he wanted to show a good showing. Otherwise, why would
you have an extra offensive lineman, extra tight ends in
(09:14):
to run a pass play? And then after we messed
that up and we get another pick. The play calling
in general was terrible. Where is Sanders our tight end?
Where's any tight end like Treble gets Every once in
a while he'll get a catch, and most of the
stuff that he does after the catch that you know,
(09:37):
like he did against Atlanta. It was a kell of
a player I love to play, but still, where are
tight ends. I think Stanton's called one pass and I
think it was three yards. Like, what are we doing
with that? We're not running no play action even though
we got two great running backs, we don't run in
play action. Get a tight end up to scene like
football is not a complicated sport. And I will never
(09:59):
act like this because I played the game, you know,
all way up to the collegiate level, and play you
know for about twelve years of my life. I'm not
gonna add like I know more than an NFL coach,
but I do recognize when people outsmart themselves. Yes, and
Dave Canalis was out smarting himself trying to be cute
with the plays.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Oh a right, listen, I can't. I gotta cut you
off at some point. I got a fullback of callers.
You've already crushed it. Give me a call back soon.
And Kareem, I appreciate you, buddy, that two point conversion.
I'll finish your thought on that horrific. Okay, First of all,
why are you chasing points? You go from the two
to the one? Congratulations? Okay, you want to do that?
Run the football, No, let's get in the shotgun. Why
(10:39):
why again, you've cut it from seventeen three to seventeen ten.
Stop taking points off the board, take the win, take
the momentum. Go play defense. Please, and if you're gonna go,
if you're gonna go for it, why are in the shotgun? Yes,
Kareem again, I didn't. I just want to give some
other people a chance to get into here. But first
and goal. Bryce picks up the first down with his legs.
(11:00):
First and goal from the one, Run the freaking football.
Run the freaking football day, Please please run the football.
And again people will say Price could have ran it
in Yeah, probably could have. Both things can be true.
He probably could have, And I still hate the decision
to not run the football with one of your running
backs on first down and goal from the one. I
hate it, hate it. Back to the phone lines, Alex
is up next, Alex, what's going on?
Speaker 5 (11:22):
And what's going on?
Speaker 4 (11:23):
Cow hey? Man?
Speaker 7 (11:24):
Make me feel a little bit.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
Man.
Speaker 8 (11:25):
I was on Bona Mac earlier and.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
They had me frustrated.
Speaker 8 (11:29):
You're absolutely right, man, you gotta run it on first
and goal.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
You just can't out smart yourself.
Speaker 8 (11:35):
But I just think man, as a total overall man,
we gotta have establish a standard to be a great
organization in the team, and when we have these opportunities
like the Saints and like the forty nine ers, man,
we got to cash in on them, because if you're
looking at the league, we're not too far from getting
(11:56):
to the promise miland that we're trying.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
To get to.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
But we have to win games you're supposed to win.
Speaker 8 (12:01):
And with the channel we have out there and with
a good coaching, you know, decision here or there, you
can beat the Saints. Those are winnable games. And like
you saying earlier, that's forty nine er team is not
like impenetrable like in the past, like a top five
defense like in the past. They could have been had,
like the analysts said earlier.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
And this is my last thing.
Speaker 8 (12:24):
I'm not you know, Bryce had an okay game, but
something got to be said. Man, when your overall record
is eleven and twenty nine and your QBR is fifty
four point one and out of your forty games, you
passing for under two hundred yards out of twenty five
of them, you know, I like him. He's a good guy,
wonderful person. But at some point in time, dude, we
(12:47):
have to look at those stats and say, is that
a number one, pick stack or.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
And we're back, Alex. I appreciate the phone call. You're
right about listen, you're fair about what you were saying
there at the end. I've had several people text in
today to say, well, KB wins the point. What do
you think they should do with Bryce? My answer right
now is simple, and I think it's it remained simple
for me, Smoke and I've agreed on this multiple times.
If it were me, my plan would be bring in
a veteran to compete with him. I'm fine with the
(13:24):
fifth year option at this point. Keep building the roster
for another offseason. You don't have to make this call
right now. Bring it a veteran to compete, pick up
the fifth year option. It'll be cheaper, and if he pops, great,
you will have saved yourself some money long term. You're
not committing to the extension. Get a veteran in here
who Dave Canalis is comfortable with that can compete with him,
and continue to build the roster, because that's the biggest thing.
(13:46):
We have forgotten a little bit just how horrific a
shape this roster was in not eighteen months ago. Dan
Morgan's done a good job of rebuilding it thus far.
It ain't done yet, okay, And I'm not ready for
them to go chasing another quarterback prospect. So keep him,
bring a veteran in here, pick up the fifty year
option if you have to. I'm okay with that personally,
and keep building a roster. DJ is up next on
(14:07):
the phones, DJ, what's going on?
Speaker 1 (14:10):
What's going on?
Speaker 9 (14:11):
Man?
Speaker 7 (14:11):
Here's what I'm gonna say as far as Bryce Young goes,
and I'm going back to what the guy said earlier,
there's a lot of regression. It's a good game and
it's a bad game, and a good game and a
bad game. And as a professional and as a as
a franchise QB, he's gotta be more consistent than that. Man.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
If y'all gonna make him the number one guy and re.
Speaker 7 (14:36):
Signed him for that big money, I don't think that
that's a good idea. But here's what I here's my suggestion,
even though you're gonna disagree. My suggestion is you go
out in the offseason and you trade and you go
get the door senders, and in that way, next year,
if he started regressing again, you put him on the
(14:57):
bench man and you put him on the bench and
that that'd be because I feel that I see Sador
being we better quarterback than Bryce down the road.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Okay, DJ, I appreciate it. Listen, I don't think Jador
Sanders ends up here, brother, I just don't. I don't.
I don't think he ends up here. I I'm gonna
leave that. He did say he thought I was gonna disagree.
He's not gonna be here. I don't think he's the solution.
I've never hated Shador Sanders. I think some of the
(15:29):
reaction to them winning this weekend is a little bit,
you know whatever. Who's that game against, by the way,
the two and eight Oakland Raiders or Las Vegas Raiders. Yeah, okay,
I just you can't be critical of Shador because to
some people it's always you're a hater. I've always been
fair to that kid. I don't hate him at all.
I never have. I thought he was a fine prospect,
just not great. I've explained myself. I, DJ, thank you
(15:51):
for the phone call. Seven oh four five, seven ninety
six ten. Keep your phone calls coming. We'll come back.
We got a chat with Ryan McGee of ESPN. We'll
get back to take your phone calls Jersey Frank Carolina
j Greg Hank tight. I will get to you. I
promise you that. Sports Radio ninety two to seven wfn Z.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
All right.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
I got a text from a listener a minute ago.
Who was this? We had Truth Hurts on the text line,
who I've had really good interactions with in the past.
He said, if Bryce was the guy, we would know
it by now. These few games won't tell us anything.
The Bears know they have their guy. Houston knows, do they?
Washington knows? Why don't we? Minnesota knows who their guy is.
The Patriots do as well. Hold on, Bud, some of
(16:42):
these I'll go with you one hundred percent. Like the
Patriots know they got their guy in Drake May for sure.
Washington knows Jaden Daniels is their guy, no doubt about it.
No unless he his injuries can chinue that.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
Look.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
That's to me. That's a different conversation though. But when
you say Houston knows, do they are they sure? Even
their fans I don't think are positive. Still they They've
done a lot of backtracking on CJ. Stroud down in Houston.
From what I've seen, I'd still say ninety percent of
them think that they know I maybe there's some Listen,
I'm not saying he's not. All I'm saying is the
attitudes have changed down there. But then to say Minnesota
(17:14):
knows who their guy is, that's a wild statement. That's crazy.
You think that they know JJ McCarthy is undoubtedly their
guy for the next ten years. Huh. I would dispute
that a little bit. Just domestic dispute and waiting. Easy
for me to say, said the Bryce experiment should be over.
He wants them to trade for Davis Mills, sign a Vett,
continue to build the roster. He says, the offense is stacked,
(17:35):
and he's not even producing three thousand yards a season. Stacked.
I mean, your number one target's a rookie. XL's in
his second year, still developing. Jalen Cooker's UDFA, who's dealt
with injuries. Hunter Renfro can't get a helmet because he
can't help on special teams. Bryceon tremains a blocking specialist.
I don't know, man, I'm not sure about their start
in twos. Yeah, yeah, anyway, we got to put that
(17:58):
down for a minute. We'll come back to it. I
got a full bank of phone calls to get too shortly.
So again, if you're there, Carolina, Jay Jersey, Frank Scott,
greg everybody, hang tight. Panthers played an ugly offensive football
game on Monday Night Football in the Bay last night.
But tonight we had the latest iteration of the college
football playoff rankings. We have Duke beating Bill Belichick. Over
the weekend, we got Rivalry weekend coming up, and we
(18:20):
got to talk to Ryan McGee of ESPN senior writer
Back with Us for his weekly conversation. Happy Thanksgiving brother,
how are you?
Speaker 4 (18:28):
I'm doing great.
Speaker 6 (18:30):
You know, I don't cover the NFL I used to,
but I know college football players and it is living
in Charlotte, and the Bryce Young era has been fascinating
for me because I was just listening to you just now.
It's the man can play football, he just needs a
little help. And I thought he did have the greatest
(18:50):
like Sunday in the history Panther quarterbacks anyway, whatever.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
No, no, he did, he did, But it doesn't matter.
It's sports, You know, sports, it's the whiplash effect that
makes people so emotional. I'm not mad at him for
being emotional, Ryan, it's that Yes, it's a wild swing.
One week they looked awesome, the next week they look
like just mud. I mean, it's it's a thing that
drives sports fans insane.
Speaker 6 (19:08):
You've seen it, Yeah, I've had. Well, I'm headed to
the Knoxville on Friday. We'll be doing Martin McGee Saturday
morning from my alma mater, and I can tell you
first hand. I mean, the Tennessee fans turned on Josh
Heipel about three weeks ago and I'm like, how's wrong
with you? People Like were you not there for the
last fifteen years.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
I just I just.
Speaker 6 (19:29):
It's so funny to me. But yeah, by the way,
it's my rivalry weekend. So you know, we both grew
up in a world where Tennessee and Vanderbilt wasn't really
a rivalry hasn't hasn't been much of one since the
nineteen thirties.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
This will be the first time.
Speaker 6 (19:45):
In the history that they've been playing football, just the
eighteen one hundred. This will be the first time they've
both been ranked in this football game, which is crazy
to me. Vanderbilt's had some great years and obviously, you know,
it just would it would have taken one year Vanderbilt
be rank because forever Tennessee was ranked. In this game,
it'll be the first. This will be the biggest game
in the history of Vanderbilt Tennessee. And you got Diego
(20:09):
probably trying to win a heisan and Vanderbilt thinking they
can make the playoff and Tennessee with the chance to
uh and I'm quoting my college roommate here. Then the
Nerds back home, and so it'll be it'll be an
interesting It'll be an interesting Saturday in Englands.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
Daum.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
That's a good line. I like that it's not the
headline in this game. Just out of curiosity. People bring
up Clark Lee to me as part of this overall
coaching carousel discussion, Like I have a zero percent belief
that he's going anywhere. What do you think about that?
Speaker 6 (20:37):
You know? My my feeling on that is turned a
little bit. And the reason is because because Bandy has
been so good this year. We have been with them
a lot. We were with them in Texas, we were
with we were at Vanderbilt last weekend to do Martin
McGee and and then obviously we're going to see him
this weekend.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
I think this'll be the fourth time that.
Speaker 6 (20:55):
We've done Marty McGee out of Andy game this year,
which is crazy. And but I I like Clark a
lot and I love my favorite stories are the ones
where the guys go back to their alma maters and
have success, right. I mean, you talk about Tennessee was
Johnny Major's for so long in the eighties and nineties,
and it was you know, It's why it broke my
heart when like Matt lut didn't work at all this
(21:17):
or Scott Frost doesn't work in Nebraska, you know, because
it's a chance to make your alma mater look good.
And I think what Clark Lee is going to wrestle
with is the same thing that your boy Jenaimes Franklin
wrestled with, which was you know, this as good as
it can possibly get and how long could that even last?
And so you know, the reality is is that if
(21:38):
Brian Kelly had left Notre Dame one year earlier, Clarklely
would be the head football coach Notre Dame. And so
there's always going to be that voice in the back
of his head. Listen, you have you have given your
alma mater arguably the greatest season that it's had in
over a century. You know, you're going to have more
than likely have a quarterback in New York for the
as a heis and finalist. You know Alabama obviously last
(22:01):
year and everything they've done this year is that as
good as it can be, and so I think that's
what he is going to wrestle with because there are
so many good jobs open, and you know, there's only
so many seats to go around, and so once the
James Franklins and the Lane Kiffins and those guys are
off the table, I would hire Clark Lear right now
if I thought I could get him.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
So, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (22:22):
I still would be surprised, but I would not be
nearly as surprised as I would have been a month ago.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Okay, fair enough, I would be surprised, But you make
a compelling case right there. Latest round of the playoff
rankings coming out tonight. Everybody won this week. Are you
expecting any changes in the top twelve.
Speaker 6 (22:40):
No, I mean that might be a little bit of
movement here and there, just you know, this team moves
up to spots and this team moves down to spots.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
But I don't I don't see anything. I don't see
anything that's going.
Speaker 6 (22:49):
To fuel debate like it did a week ago. Poor Syracuse,
the whole world made Notre Dame mad. And I'm pretty sure, sir,
players who know they've already scored three or four more times
in that game since we just started talking, Right.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
That was crazy.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Seventy to seven.
Speaker 6 (23:04):
Yeah, it could have been worse if you watch the game.
And at one point I think no Day had scored
three times in the offense hadn't touched the ball yet.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
So it's it is a yeah. But this is why
I tossed them.
Speaker 6 (23:15):
This is why the debate is great, and it's why
we need to stay.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
Let this talk about that the.
Speaker 6 (23:20):
Big Ten want to expand this in Charlotte, right, the
Big ten pitch and let's expand this thing that twenty
four teams and no way, no, because right now the
conversation is national. You you have Oregon fans watching Vanderbilt football,
and you have well, you have Dan Lanning talking smack
about the SEC schedule. It's only because the only so
(23:41):
many teams can get in so once a much larger
percentage gets in, even one hundred and thirty six schools.
I'm a sports writer, dude, I need you your sports talk.
We need some drama and we're not going the drama
starts to dissipate. We get the twenty four teams.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
No, yes, absolutely so, I mean weekly check in now, ACC.
Now we're looking at a Virginia SMU title game here
in Charlotte. We're still debating whether or not Miami's actually
the best team in the field, and whether or not
they'll actually jump Notre Dame, so on and so forth.
I mean, what do we think about the league this week?
Speaker 4 (24:14):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (24:16):
So this morning walk up and it gets my better judgment.
First thing I do is I started looking at social media, right,
but the ACC on Instagram put out this graphic with
all of the paths to to Charlotte, and the SMU
graphic alone, I had to put my glasses on, Like
it's just it's so incredibly like when when Georgia take
(24:37):
a lost and they really should have lost to the road,
but when Georgia take lost over the weekend, you know,
I tweeted out a gift of just somebody dumping a
big place of spaghetti on the table.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
Because it's just what it is, right and you.
Speaker 6 (24:51):
Know, and shamelessly, I mean, unapologetically, I was rooting for
a Georgia Tech Virginia championship game because I wanted to
go back and write a story about it is still,
in my opinion, the greatest regular season game in the
history of the ACC, most important anyway, which is nineteen
ninety when Virginia was number one and Georgia Tech beat
them at Virginia and then Georgia taking it when to
(25:11):
share in the NAST Championship. My dad was Phil Judge
in that game. I wanted to write like an oral
history of that game, and now I'm gonna have to
settle on that. But it's yeah, listen, and I am
all for it. I think what they're doing at SMU
is amazing. I think the Virginia story is an incredible story.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
You consider where.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
That program was not ten minutes ago and now they
got a chance to play for conference championship. But I'm
glad I ain't the guy to running the second office
because I don't know it'll be.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
I have a.
Speaker 6 (25:39):
Feeling there'll be plenty of good seats available well down
at the ballpark if that's the matchup.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Yeah, to your point, my son just played his first
year of t ball. He's three years old. Yeah, and
I got a shout out the league because they negotiated
this special rate for the kids in the league to
go to the a SEC championship game. And I feel
bad about saying this publicly, but my wife was like,
that's a good deal, and I was like, Nah, you
can get that for twenty five percent of that price
if you wait to a game.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
That's just And I hate it.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
Yeah, and I hate it and I don't and it's
stertially not fair to them, but it just it is
what it is. And I mean, listen, I was talking
about nineteen ninety. I was at the Sugar Bowl that year.
It was Virginia, Tennessee, and blessed their hearts. You know,
some Virginia fans came, but they just don't. That's not
a big road crowd and so maybe they'll prove me wrong,
but it's but it is a great story and that's
(26:25):
what the league needs.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
To lean into. But yeah, smu a sc See powerhouse.
I didn't see that coming.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Yeah, it isn't a KB and Ryan conversation if I
don't bring up Bill Belichick and Chapel Hill. So uh
Manny Diaz with one of the gutsiest fake punt calls
you'll ever sit in that game on Saturday. What did
I say, Smoke, Oh, I said, oh, I'm sorry my fault.
Fake field goal. Smoke corrected me in real time, but
fake field goal call. And now Carolina is not going
bowling to four and seven. They do have a chance
(26:51):
to beat n C State, But I mean, just the
closer we get to the end of the year. There's
a front page story about this over on ESPN today.
As I'm sure you're well aware you know about why
he's still doing this as we near the end of
the season. Do you suspect he'll want to continue doing this?
Speaker 6 (27:05):
Yeah, Well it's a great storm. My bed to Tim Kewne,
who was with me at esp in a magazine forever.
He spent a lot of time at Shapel Hill working
on that piece, and it's it's a great and it's
a good take too, because you know, sometimes we get
mad when guy's coming in our backyard as college football writers.
But for the guy like Tim to going there and
attack that thing, his look, his look on it was,
his perspective on it was very fresh and so I.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
You know, it has been entertaining.
Speaker 6 (27:30):
You know, I've not been to the Triangle in a minute.
I'm gonna be up there in a couple of weeks.
I'm curious to kind of take the temperature of the room.
I feel like everybody's kind of over it.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (27:38):
Certainly they were talk about talk about ticket sales certainly
based on crowds. I don't think that's I don't think
it's been the draw that they were hoping that was. No,
I haven't in the draw that thought it would be.
But but the question is does you want to do it?
And that's the question in Tim's story, which is why
why do you Does he want to do this? Why
would he want to do this? And so yeah, Plus
you know, listen, y'all is pat practice and watching film
(28:01):
and recruiting that takes away from your time to go
watch the Chilian comtess.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
The boosters have to be embarrassed by that, right, Let's
just be honest. You know eastern North Carolina, that area
very well, like you know the blue hairs, you know
the money people. There's no way they're not humiliated by that.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
Right Yeah.
Speaker 6 (28:16):
And the one of the blue hair money people is
the reason he's.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
There, right, Like that's just it.
Speaker 6 (28:21):
And so it's just it is a In the end,
every pro collegiate athletic program has one or two people
who are who pull the springs, right. It's the car
dealer from Friday Night Light. And the difference now is
that those people have an actual license to kill and
they didn't have one of those before. And if you're
on the board of trustees, you always did. And that's
(28:43):
exactly what having this situation. So listen, man, how many
times have we had this conversation? You know, I wrote
the column a year ago when Belichick got the job,
which is I can't wait to see how they turned
this into just another North Carolina football season. And it's
just it is what it is. And and on some
level you're like, all right, why not try it? Well,
they tried it, and and if they don't feel like
(29:06):
they have the momentum going in the right direction, and
maybe they thought they did, and many das single handedly
squashed that.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
No doubt. Never a bad day for a Buddy Garretty
reference on the air. By the way, all right, I know, but.
Speaker 6 (29:17):
We met that guy, the actor. We had him on
Martin mcguhel one time and it was just Marty and
I actual like complete it is. We wouldn't have acted
like that if we'd had the Beatles, like if we
were we were for Marty McGee, Buddy Gary is the beatle?
Speaker 4 (29:28):
All right?
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Last thing? Which way is the wind blowing on Lane Kiffin?
This week?
Speaker 6 (29:33):
I think he's gone And I just you know, I
have joked and I and I kind of joke and
I kind of don't about. You know, we worked really
really hard on that East sixty documentary, the many Allie
Lane Kiffin, and and the last probably last what fifth
of it is all about why he loves Oxford and
Oxford saved his life and why he would never leave all.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
Those things, and so full disclosure.
Speaker 6 (29:57):
On Saturday, I will be in Knoxville, mar he will
be in Oxford, and uh and and I am going
to have to look at that crowd at Tennessee and say, well,
because by that time, per with the Athletic Director Ole
Miss has told us, by that time we probably will
know what's going to happen. And if Lane has left,
I'm gonna have to sit there in front of a
live studio audience in Knoxville and go, y'all tried to
(30:18):
tell me and I didn't listen to you.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
And here we sit.
Speaker 5 (30:23):
So the booze.
Speaker 6 (30:24):
It didn't take much to get Tennessee people to boo
Lane Kiffin. But but they will blue lustily.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (30:30):
If the news breaks while we're on the air, sitting
on the hill in Knoxville, Tennessee.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Well I'll be watching. Thank you for the time as always,
Happy Thanksgiving. Hold on last thing. We had a great
debate about this yesterday on the show I'm a I'm
a big believer that Thanksgiving dinner should be eaten no
later than two pm, thus allowing for a full menu,
have leftovers after the nap for dinner time. In league football,
when does the McGee family sit down for dinner?
Speaker 6 (30:53):
We're at one thirty hard. That's a hard out, a
hard d hard out, one to one thirty one. And
it's perfect too, because you don't want to kill them.
You get him eat the bowl cereal on your cup coffee,
and then just what and you just wait, just hold.
It's like brave heart hold. And then when it's time
to go, go and then but you're exactly right. That
allows for a going a little trip to fan nap
(31:15):
and then a little uh, a little late uh kind
of you know sort at dinner and yeah, no, no, one, one,
one thirty is the red zone for the McGee.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
I suspected, but now I know you're one of the
finest Americans we know here on the show. Thank you, brother.
We'll talk to you next week, all right. Appreciate you boys,
bo Ryan McGee, ESPN. Hanging out with us here on
a Tuesday seven oh four five, seven ninety six ten.
Hit us up, Hang tight, Carolina, Jay Jersey, Frank Scott,
Greg you are up first. When we return. Right now,
we go to smoke on the headlines. Who is smoked?
Where is smoked? Where there's smoke, there's fire.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
Let's go.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
What's you got? All right too?
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Panther tidbits here on the defensive backfield or a secondary
excuse me, Trayvon Mary will be appealing his suspension. I
don't think it will work, but the people that will
be hearing his suspension is either Derek Brooks, the Tampa
Bay linebacker Hall of Famer, Ramon Foster, or Jordanian Nelson.
I guess we're hoping for Derek Brooks, considering linebacker was
(32:13):
the position he played. But it's not looking good for
Marek to get back out there because this appeals likely
that gonna work, considering Jamar Chase tried to appeal the
spit fiasco last week.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Is on camera clearly punching the dude in the nards
like he's gonna sit for a week. It's not happening.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
And unfortunately, in some more bad news in the defensive secondary,
Corey Forton broke a bone in his leg. Good God,
has he done for the year. I didn't hear specify
what bone it was. You know, it could be one
of those.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
It was only five games left, so he's almost got
to be done for the year. If you broke a
bone in your leg, you're not making it back in
the next six weeks. Probably not.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
And that sucks because it felt like he was starting
to get into a rhythm.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Oh that's a bummer, yep, Darren ganht right here thirty
one minutes ago. Out for the season with a broken fibula.
Oh even worse. That's tough. All right, we'll come back.
We'll tell you who balled out, not the Panthers. We'll
take your phone calls wide open, five o'clock hour, Sports
Radio ninety two to seven w f Z.
Speaker 9 (33:22):
Sety get on your feet, hello, good protection charge for
the air zone.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Can you go to the buck.
Speaker 10 (33:34):
He's got a good coming on the side by side
the lock cant back to Bush running into the area,
It'll pass towards uprights for Peppy.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
It's time for who balled Out? Powered by High Performance
real Estate Advisors the biggest dad gumballer of them all,
Thomas L. Rodd. Go to high Performance real Estate dot
Com and they'll see you at the closing table. Smoke
would you bring for the people?
Speaker 3 (34:07):
Another job is off the board, and still Waters the
latest one off the board. I'm going with Oklahoma State
because they just hired Eric Morris as their next head coach.
The head coach at North Texas. The Mean Green is
gonna now be wearing orange in twenty twenty six. And
here's the real cool thing here. North Texas and Oklahoma
State have agreed to allow Morris to coach North Texas
(34:28):
if it advances to the American Championship Game and the playoffs,
which is still a possibility for de Mean Green. But hey,
steal water getting the disciple of Mike Leach. Oh yeah,
the air raids back and still water, baby.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
That's pretty cool. I'll go with aj Statton McCrae, scoring
twenty two points to lead Seaton Hall to yesterday's eighty
five seventy four win over n C State and No
State fans, I take no pleasure in you losing, so
don't think I'm doing this to troll you. But I
actually think Seaton Hall is gonna end up being better
than people think. I don't think that's gonna end up
being as battle loss some people think it will be.
There're six and o to start the season. Maybe things change,
(35:03):
maybe they get hurt. We'll see. But I don't think
that Seaton Hall loss is going to be as bad
as people think.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
This is the same They have the same coach that
led Saint Peter, Yes, Geene Holloway, Yeah yeah to an
elite eight.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Yeah yeah. I don't feel like we laugh today. And
that's what Fiddy did this morning, and I get it,
that's the rivalry. But I don't think that loss is
going to look as bad by the time February rolls around.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
And I'll go ahead and say that NC State, for
a second straight day, has been playing in during our
time slot. Borring massive collapse. They're gonna beat Boise State
so they get back on track of a win. And
by the way, that's nice to see the ACC beat
the Mountain West team, because you know how CBS and
the propaganda machines love hyping up the Mountain West.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Well, as soon as they signed that deal with the
Mountain West, all of a sudden, the Mountain West was
the greatest thing since slic spread a couple of years ago.
You're led to believe, you're told, don't worry about that,
don't pay attention to that. It has nothing to do
with it. Of course, by the way, our lone Oklahoma
State fan in the audience likes the paychecks, says, don't
hate it. Just glad it wasn't Zach Robinson, which is
weird because Zach Robinson played at Oklahoma Stead. He did,
(36:04):
he did. All right, let me take some phone calls here,
let's see, Carolina Jy has been waiting patiently to talk
about the panthers twenty to nine loss to the forty
nine ers on Monday Night football. Carolina J. What's going on?
Speaker 9 (36:16):
What's going on?
Speaker 4 (36:17):
Guys? Hey man?
Speaker 11 (36:18):
You guys saw what I saw. Man, it was a
it was a tough one. And you know, I could
start out by just looking at the statline. What's that
thirteen carries for sixty nine yards and then when you
look at at at the forty nine ers, thirty eight carries, right,
So what head coach in their mind is going to
(36:41):
allow only thirteen carries through out an entire game.
Speaker 7 (36:45):
Four.
Speaker 11 (36:45):
By the way, we're by Bryce, and I love Bryce,
but does it look like he's like throwing a loaf
of bread when he's throwing the ball and he just
just doesn't just doesn't do it for.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
Me, man.
Speaker 11 (36:55):
But more than that, Man Canalis.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
Man, I mean, guys, let's.
Speaker 7 (36:59):
Just be honest.
Speaker 11 (37:01):
He's a new head coach trying to call plays. I mean,
he doesn't have it, Guys. He looks pedestrian when he
goes against a decent head coach. And I'm telling you
it doesn't matter what quarterback you bring in. We saw
that Cam couldn't overcome Mike Shulett at least in the
championship game, right, So I mean what I'm saying, guys,
(37:22):
is there has to be a separation between Dave's Canalis
and I got a new name for him for him,
Dave's Canalist analysis paralysis, right, And so that's that's where
I'm coming from, the game is getting a little bit
too big for him. He needs to give up play calling,
give it, give it to somebody else, because this is
(37:43):
not it. I still kind of believe in Bryce, but
how can he overcome a coach that on Monday Night
football only runs runs the ball thirteen times. I'll take
the rest off there, guys.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
No, I'm gonna amend hold on because well, don't hold on.
Speaker 4 (37:56):
You can go.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
But I think that that new nickname was a little
bit longer. I think we can show it. Right, when
the offense plays poorly, you can go paralysis by canalysis.
You just you just add an extra. Smoke likes it.
Smoke's impressed. Right, It's it's a little bit extra there
at the end, right, But paralysis. Herman's photography said that
nickname was trash. I cleaned it up for him. Paralysis
(38:19):
by canalysis. Right, we'll go with that. I thought he
had his worst game as a Panthers head coach last night.
I really did. I didn't think Bryce was much better.
But I thought Dave Canalis had his worst game as
the Panthers head coach last night. And maybe he'd, you know,
dispute that. Maybe the front office would too. But I
know I'm not alone in thinking that. Today that he
had his worst worst game as the head coach of Carolina.
Scott is up next, Scott. What's going on?
Speaker 6 (38:41):
Hey, Kyle.
Speaker 12 (38:44):
Let me start this off as saying I've been a
fan of Bryce Young, but I'm trying to question him
this year. And I get everybody saying, oh, Dave Canalis
needs to trust Bryce song, let him merit out, let
him run the offense. And on a first and goal,
would I have liked run?
Speaker 5 (38:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 12 (38:58):
But as play worked, Bryce had options. You know what happened.
Your number one overall pick picked one out of three options,
and that one he picked was a bad choice. Let
me throw it in double coverage with the corner just
spying on me, where I can either run it into
the end zone or throw it out of bounds. At
(39:22):
some point you have to start blaming the player making
bad decisions. He did it earlier this year where he
threw balls in harm's way. Yep, Canalas has outperformed Bryce
Young this year, no question about it. Bryce needs to
become more consistent, and if he doesn't over these last
few games, it's time to let him go. I'm sorry,
(39:45):
I love the kid, but he's just not consistent and
he never consistently makes the right decisions. It's simple.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Okay, appreciate the phone calls, got thank you, buddy, smoke
what you got over there.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
And my question is, all right, if you want to
let Bryce go after this year, who are you going with?
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Oh yeah, I've no end. Listen, I've told you already.
That's the problem.
Speaker 4 (40:08):
It's it.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
Look, you can move on. You could move on from
them if it was a different offseason. But this is
not one of those off seasons where you move on.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
There's no world in which I'm drafting a quarterback in
the first round this year. This class is not that good.
Maybe one of these guys turns out to be great,
the time will tell that probably won't be for four
years down the road, and then.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
You wouldn't even be available at in the range to
get those quarterbacks too, because the quarterbacks that are gonna
be going are going to all be within the top ten.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
I'm much more interested in letting Dan Morgan continue to cook,
keep building. It was not that long ago that we
were pointing out that the Panthers were responsible for the
fewest numbers of drafted or fewest number of drafted players
on rosters in the NFL, not even their own roster,
just rosters across the league. How many players overall in
the total pot of players in the NFL on rosters
had been drafted by the Carolina Panthers. Carolina was dead last,
(40:54):
dead last, okay, by the end of the sky Fitterer era.
All right. On top of that, look how many former
players off of last year's team didn't even make NFL
rosters to start the season. Y'all? This roster was bad
when Dan Morgan took over. I mean bad, bad, and
it's gotten better. So I'm more interested. As I've said,
we don't have to agree on everything, but if you're
(41:15):
asking for my opinion, if you value it at all,
my opinion is, I'm bringing Bryce back for year four.
I'm signing a veteran. I might even draft a guy
on Day two or three if there's somebody that I
really like. But I am continuing to let Dan Morgan
bring linebackers into this defense. Go find another edge rusher
for this defense, continue to invest in the offensive line,
which is never a bad move in any draft. Okay,
(41:37):
there are so many things that I think can benefit
this team better. Maybe you can, you know, trade for
Mac Jones. I don't think that San Francisco is gonna
want to let him go, but maybe you trade for
mac Jones to bring him in here and let him compete.
But I'm bringing Bryce back for year four. Personally, they
have until May to decide on the fifth year option,
and I'm probably doing that too because it's a smart
move and if he does continue to improve, you save
yourself money. So that would be my plan. But if
(42:00):
you believe that Dan Morgan has done a good job
with this roster, I think the smartest, most prudent thing
to do is to let him continue doing that. Our
number three next Jersey Frank is up first. Then we
got Greg, then we got Carolina Mike, then we got Tanner.
Got a whole lot of calls to take sports Radio
ninety two seven WF and Z
You were listening to the Kyle Bailey Show, powered by
Victory Chevy Charlotte, where just nineteen dollars down could put
you in a brand new Chevrolet.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Today Wow our number two sports radio ninety two to
seven wfn Z emanating live from the Chandler Volta studios
to Carolina's personal injury lawyers. One call, that's all go
(00:31):
to CV Injurylaw dot com. That's Cvinjurylaw dot Com. Ryan McGee,
ESPN senior writer, one half of Marty and McGee, College
Game Day contributor, and SEC Network personality as well. He's
back in twenty minutes talk a lot of college football
with him. The latest iteration of the college football playoff
rankings will come out tonight. How will the committee handle things?
(00:53):
So you look like you want to jump in already smoke?
What are you thinking over there?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Well, to kind of get off of what Colin said
earlier today on Charlotte Sports Today, I swear to God
if Missouri's still is calling in New Yorker now, I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
I just like saying it that way.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
If Missouri is still in the top twenty five, the
committee needs to be investigated from getting payments from the
SEC because there is no way on Godge Greener for
no offense willip that Missouri willip, I mean, Missouri's all right,
but they're not really good good. Sure, their quarterback sucks.
Ok they can't throw the ball. They can run the ball,
but they can't throw it. Gotcha, No way in Godge
(01:28):
Greener for after they got shut down in Stonewall by
Brent Vinibles.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Should they be in the top twenty five?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Yeah, okay, no, to help resumes are certain SEC squals
all but we saw it last year with some Big
ten teams too, that were snuck into the back end
of the top twenty five to help strengthen schedules.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
It felt very arbitrary.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
So yeah, and teams like JMU can't get into top
twenty five and they'll say, oh, well, they barely beat
Washington State, the same Washington State team that gave Ole
miss all they could handle and also gave Virginia all
they could handle.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Okay, yeah, a lot of self fulfilling logic in this.
I agree. I agree. I also got a funny text.
We'll come back to the college football stuff and I'm
coming to the phone lines in a second, TC, says
Isaiah Simmons is finally a Panther. I still have hope
the Hornets will get Miles Turner. If you missed it
during the last segment, news broke first of all two
(02:20):
pieces of news breaking today on the show. Trayvon Merrick
has been suspended for a game after he punched Juwan
Jennings in the crotch. And so that's to be expected,
you know, somebody earlier said, well, West says that stuff
happens all the time on the football field. It does,
but you can't get caught. And when you get caught,
you're gonna get suspended. Especially as a dB, you're more
(02:40):
out in the open. Yeah, I'll go ahead say this.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Hold on.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
The second thing, though, is Isaiah Simmons is now a
Carolina Panther. We can't gloss over that. The second piece
of breaking news is that Isaiah Simmons, who played I
believe seventeen games with the Giants last year, has signed
with the Carolina Panthers, presumably to play linebacker, because well
last night, after multiple injuries, Carolina was down to its
fourth and fifth linebackers illave the end of the twenty
twenty four season, so they have signed Isaiah Simmons. He
(03:06):
is finally a Panther. After weeks and weeks and weeks
of fighting amongst the fan base prior to the twenty
twenty NFL Draft, the folks that either wanted Derek Brown
or Isaiah Simmons smokes raising his hand. I was a
Derek Brown guy. Isaiah Simmons, five years later, has finally
made his way to the Carolina Panthers roster. So congratulations
to all of you who wanted him terribly.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Technically got both wish both came here and are playing
on the same defense at the same time.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
That's great. I will say.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
So.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
If Isaiah Simmons becomes a Panther, Miles Turner can actually
become a Hornet and State fans, I haven't forgotten about you.
Bill Cower could be the next head coach of the
wolf Pack. Baby, let's go. It's possible.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Baby.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
I love that you're still making that joke in twenty
twenty five. If is there a similar joke that we
can make? Is there something else we've been waiting for
for years that hasn't happened yet? Bill Cower is head
coaching at Carolina. That's the one that's good. That's the one.
I like that one. I like that one too, all right?
Seven oh four five seven ninety six ten Beer to
State said gotta love the peanuts punch. I don't if
you gotta love it. We had a text he here,
Beanie Wheney's very appropriate, says, but what about Juwan Jennings.
(04:09):
Did he get suspended for retaliation? I've not seen anything yet.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
He'll get fine, but he won't get considering that they've
already announced the suspension for Trayvon merreg Yeah, they would
have announced the suspension for Jwan Jennings at the same time.
They would have, but we're gonna get a notification on
Saturday afternoon while we're watching college football that he's been fined.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
And how mad can you get at a guy for
responding or retaliating to that? Like I said earlier, I
have to tell my three year old constantly right now,
my son, buddy, we don't punch other boys in the wiener.
That's what Trayvon Mehrak just did on national TV. So
of course the dude's going to respond to that. Somebody
punched you in the wiinner. What would you do, I mean,
after you stood up, you'd respond.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
It's just like what we saw last week between another
dB and wide receiver. We all thought Jalen Ramsey was
the biggest idiot on the earth, and then we've realized, Oh,
Jamar Chase spat in his face. Okay, he's probably gonna
get fine, but he he was within is right, even
though he had a helmet all to try and punch
the guy off the helmet. Yeah, so it's one of
those situations. I think Jalen Ramsey got fined. So, yeah,
(05:08):
Jawan Jennings will get fined, but he's not going to
get suspended. That's true, and that's the right decision by
the NFL for that.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Yeah, Eric says, l ol KB, I can't believe you
said wiener on the radio like six times already today.
We were all adults. You mean, use clinical terms to
make it awkward. I don't think we can even say
to he punched him on the penis, like you mean
to do that? You can say it's a clinical term, smoke.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
I thought that was one of the words that we
couldn't have on the radio. Did you dumped me for that?
Speaker 5 (05:32):
No?
Speaker 2 (05:33):
I didn't. Okay, it's not on the list over there.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Is it.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
I thought at one point it was. Now it's a
clinical term, like it's weird if I do that. So
I just, you know, I say the thing that we
all say to our kids. Let's go to the phone line.
Seven o four Tyler, I thought Smoke was going to
have a heart attack. Good lord, seven o four Tyler
is up first. What's going on?
Speaker 6 (05:48):
Tyler?
Speaker 2 (05:48):
How are you?
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Hey?
Speaker 5 (05:50):
What's going on?
Speaker 4 (05:50):
KB?
Speaker 5 (05:51):
And Smoke ahead? You guys having a great day. Yes, sir,
I'm still a covering on the way you just said
punched him in the penis. I'm sorry that was that
was last listen. No, I'm actually huge on the Isaiah
Simmons pick up. I was big on him and climps
and I'm real happy about that. But I heard you
mentioned earlier in the show that you your wife got
(06:12):
into it or whatever because she doesn't like being around
you or whatnot.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Oh no, but I can't be spreading false rumors about
my wife and I having domestic issues. No, she just
thought I was nuts for being irritated at the game
last night, so she went to go watch her own show.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
Yeah, okay, okay, well mine apparently last night was her
last night not only watching the game with me, but
even being in the same room as me, because she
she looked at me with the most genuinely concerned face
and said, why do you care so much about watching
football if it does this to you? And I didn't
know how to respond. You know, I said, basically, it's
(06:46):
called being a Carolina Panthers fan. But you know, it
is what it is. We do what we can. But yeah,
like I say, I just had to get out of
and get that out there. I'm big on the Isaiah
Simmons pickup, and you know, I hope you guys have
a great work the day. That's all I got.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Thank you, iler appreciate the phone call. Why are we
that way? Why are we that way as people? As men?
I don't know. It's well, I kind of view it
as it's all about to chase. Is that what it is?
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Yeah, to chase, even the ups and downs, once you
finally get to the point in a mountaintop, it's worth it.
Why do you think the best stories in sport? Like
why do you think Rocky was so successful?
Speaker 2 (07:21):
See I flip it back on my wife and I'm like,
this is evidence that I'll never cheat on you, you know that, right?
It's like, what are you talking about like I've heard
it for the same damn team since I was seven
years old, and all they do is bring me pain
and suffering, and I'm still loyal. So, like, I mean,
if that's not evidence that I'm never going to cheat
on you, I don't know what is. I'm a loyal guy.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Amen to that. I'm a Western Carolina Hornets and Panthers fan.
What more loyalty can you get? So I'm saying like
they don't get more loyal than that. Back to the
phone lines. Kareem ab Dul Jabbar is up next. Not Jabbar.
I'm sorry, not Jabbar. What's going on?
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Kareem? What's going on doing it today? You know?
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Fair to Midland man, I.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Put it in. It takes messages today, cow. I just
wanted us to put up a good show. So let
me cook for a minute on what they put up
on the.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Spring cook away.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
So Dave Canalis really had to decide if he wants
to be a play caller or head coach. There are very, very,
very few like It's good as my guy in Kansas
City was. Whenever he's in Kansas City and in Philly,
he's always had him a offensive coordinator to someone has
(08:31):
to be calling those players. You can put the game
play together and all those things, but when the game
day and the real bullets are out there, you need
to be able to lucidly, be able to concentrate on
several different things, and play calling isn't one of them.
That play call that caused that first interception ridiculous, Absolutely
no reason you run. You don't run the ball on
(08:53):
first and goal from the goal line. And then the
thing that made me feel like Canalis is really trying
to show his kind of cut his teeth a little
bit with this play calling stuff. And he's on Monday
night football, and I mean, we're all human. I think
he wanted to show a good showing. Otherwise, why would
you have an extra offensive lineman, extra tight ends in
(09:14):
to run a pass play? And then after we messed
that up and we get another pick. The play calling
in general was terrible. Where is Sanders our tight end?
Where's any tight end like Treble gets Every once in
a while he'll get a catch, and most of the
stuff that he does after the catch that you know,
(09:37):
like he did against Atlanta. It was a kell of
a player I love to play, but still, where are
tight ends. I think Stanton's called one pass and I
think it was three yards. Like, what are we doing
with that? We're not running no play action even though
we got two great running backs, we don't run in
play action. Get a tight end up to scene like
football is not a complicated sport. And I will never
(09:59):
act like this because I played the game, you know,
all way up to the collegiate level, and play you
know for about twelve years of my life. I'm not
gonna add like I know more than an NFL coach,
but I do recognize when people outsmart themselves. Yes, and
Dave Canalis was out smarting himself trying to be cute
with the plays.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Oh a right, listen, I can't. I gotta cut you
off at some point. I got a fullback of callers.
You've already crushed it. Give me a call back soon.
And Kareem, I appreciate you, buddy, that two point conversion.
I'll finish your thought on that horrific. Okay, First of all,
why are you chasing points? You go from the two
to the one? Congratulations? Okay, you want to do that?
Run the football, No, let's get in the shotgun. Why
(10:39):
why again, you've cut it from seventeen three to seventeen ten.
Stop taking points off the board, take the win, take
the momentum. Go play defense. Please, and if you're gonna go,
if you're gonna go for it, why are in the shotgun? Yes,
Kareem again, I didn't. I just want to give some
other people a chance to get into here. But first
and goal. Bryce picks up the first down with his legs.
(11:00):
First and goal from the one, Run the freaking football.
Run the freaking football day, Please please run the football.
And again people will say Price could have ran it
in Yeah, probably could have. Both things can be true.
He probably could have, And I still hate the decision
to not run the football with one of your running
backs on first down and goal from the one. I
hate it, hate it. Back to the phone lines, Alex
is up next, Alex, what's going on?
Speaker 5 (11:22):
And what's going on?
Speaker 4 (11:23):
Cow hey? Man?
Speaker 7 (11:24):
Make me feel a little bit.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
Man.
Speaker 8 (11:25):
I was on Bona Mac earlier and.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
They had me frustrated.
Speaker 8 (11:29):
You're absolutely right, man, you gotta run it on first
and goal.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
You just can't out smart yourself.
Speaker 8 (11:35):
But I just think man, as a total overall man,
we gotta have establish a standard to be a great
organization in the team, and when we have these opportunities
like the Saints and like the forty nine ers, man,
we got to cash in on them, because if you're
looking at the league, we're not too far from getting
(11:56):
to the promise miland that we're trying.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
To get to.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
But we have to win games you're supposed to win.
Speaker 8 (12:01):
And with the channel we have out there and with
a good coaching, you know, decision here or there, you
can beat the Saints. Those are winnable games. And like
you saying earlier, that's forty nine er team is not
like impenetrable like in the past, like a top five
defense like in the past. They could have been had,
like the analysts said earlier.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
And this is my last thing.
Speaker 8 (12:24):
I'm not you know, Bryce had an okay game, but
something got to be said. Man, when your overall record
is eleven and twenty nine and your QBR is fifty
four point one and out of your forty games, you
passing for under two hundred yards out of twenty five
of them, you know, I like him. He's a good guy,
wonderful person. But at some point in time, dude, we
(12:47):
have to look at those stats and say, is that
a number one, pick stack or.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
And we're back, Alex. I appreciate the phone call. You're
right about listen, you're fair about what you were saying
there at the end. I've had several people text in
today to say, well, KB wins the point. What do
you think they should do with Bryce? My answer right
now is simple, and I think it's it remained simple
for me, Smoke and I've agreed on this multiple times.
If it were me, my plan would be bring in
a veteran to compete with him. I'm fine with the
(13:24):
fifth year option at this point. Keep building the roster
for another offseason. You don't have to make this call
right now. Bring it a veteran to compete, pick up
the fifth year option. It'll be cheaper, and if he pops, great,
you will have saved yourself some money long term. You're
not committing to the extension. Get a veteran in here
who Dave Canalis is comfortable with that can compete with him,
and continue to build the roster, because that's the biggest thing.
(13:46):
We have forgotten a little bit just how horrific a
shape this roster was in not eighteen months ago. Dan
Morgan's done a good job of rebuilding it thus far.
It ain't done yet, okay, And I'm not ready for
them to go chasing another quarterback prospect. So keep him,
bring a veteran in here, pick up the fifty year
option if you have to. I'm okay with that personally,
and keep building a roster. DJ is up next on
(14:07):
the phones, DJ, what's going on?
Speaker 1 (14:10):
What's going on?
Speaker 9 (14:11):
Man?
Speaker 7 (14:11):
Here's what I'm gonna say as far as Bryce Young goes,
and I'm going back to what the guy said earlier,
there's a lot of regression. It's a good game and
it's a bad game, and a good game and a
bad game. And as a professional and as a as
a franchise QB, he's gotta be more consistent than that. Man.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
If y'all gonna make him the number one guy and re.
Speaker 7 (14:36):
Signed him for that big money, I don't think that
that's a good idea. But here's what I here's my suggestion,
even though you're gonna disagree. My suggestion is you go
out in the offseason and you trade and you go
get the door senders, and in that way, next year,
if he started regressing again, you put him on the
(14:57):
bench man and you put him on the bench and
that that'd be because I feel that I see Sador
being we better quarterback than Bryce down the road.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Okay, DJ, I appreciate it. Listen, I don't think Jador
Sanders ends up here, brother, I just don't. I don't.
I don't think he ends up here. I I'm gonna
leave that. He did say he thought I was gonna disagree.
He's not gonna be here. I don't think he's the solution.
I've never hated Shador Sanders. I think some of the
(15:29):
reaction to them winning this weekend is a little bit,
you know whatever. Who's that game against, by the way,
the two and eight Oakland Raiders or Las Vegas Raiders. Yeah, okay,
I just you can't be critical of Shador because to
some people it's always you're a hater. I've always been
fair to that kid. I don't hate him at all.
I never have. I thought he was a fine prospect,
just not great. I've explained myself. I, DJ, thank you
(15:51):
for the phone call. Seven oh four five, seven ninety
six ten. Keep your phone calls coming. We'll come back.
We got a chat with Ryan McGee of ESPN. We'll
get back to take your phone calls Jersey Frank Carolina
j Greg Hank tight. I will get to you. I
promise you that. Sports Radio ninety two to seven wfn Z.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
All right.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
I got a text from a listener a minute ago.
Who was this? We had Truth Hurts on the text line,
who I've had really good interactions with in the past.
He said, if Bryce was the guy, we would know
it by now. These few games won't tell us anything.
The Bears know they have their guy. Houston knows, do they?
Washington knows? Why don't we? Minnesota knows who their guy is.
The Patriots do as well. Hold on, Bud, some of
(16:42):
these I'll go with you one hundred percent. Like the
Patriots know they got their guy in Drake May for sure.
Washington knows Jaden Daniels is their guy, no doubt about it.
No unless he his injuries can chinue that.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
Look.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
That's to me. That's a different conversation though. But when
you say Houston knows, do they are they sure? Even
their fans I don't think are positive. Still they They've
done a lot of backtracking on CJ. Stroud down in Houston.
From what I've seen, I'd still say ninety percent of
them think that they know I maybe there's some Listen,
I'm not saying he's not. All I'm saying is the
attitudes have changed down there. But then to say Minnesota
(17:14):
knows who their guy is, that's a wild statement. That's crazy.
You think that they know JJ McCarthy is undoubtedly their
guy for the next ten years. Huh. I would dispute
that a little bit. Just domestic dispute and waiting. Easy
for me to say, said the Bryce experiment should be over.
He wants them to trade for Davis Mills, sign a Vett,
continue to build the roster. He says, the offense is stacked,
(17:35):
and he's not even producing three thousand yards a season. Stacked.
I mean, your number one target's a rookie. XL's in
his second year, still developing. Jalen Cooker's UDFA, who's dealt
with injuries. Hunter Renfro can't get a helmet because he
can't help on special teams. Bryceon tremains a blocking specialist.
I don't know, man, I'm not sure about their start
in twos. Yeah, yeah, anyway, we got to put that
(17:58):
down for a minute. We'll come back to it. I
got a full bank of phone calls to get too shortly.
So again, if you're there, Carolina, Jay Jersey, Frank Scott,
greg everybody, hang tight. Panthers played an ugly offensive football
game on Monday Night Football in the Bay last night.
But tonight we had the latest iteration of the college
football playoff rankings. We have Duke beating Bill Belichick. Over
the weekend, we got Rivalry weekend coming up, and we
(18:20):
got to talk to Ryan McGee of ESPN senior writer
Back with Us for his weekly conversation. Happy Thanksgiving brother,
how are you?
Speaker 4 (18:28):
I'm doing great.
Speaker 6 (18:30):
You know, I don't cover the NFL I used to,
but I know college football players and it is living
in Charlotte, and the Bryce Young era has been fascinating
for me because I was just listening to you just now.
It's the man can play football, he just needs a
little help. And I thought he did have the greatest
(18:50):
like Sunday in the history Panther quarterbacks anyway, whatever.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
No, no, he did, he did, But it doesn't matter.
It's sports, You know, sports, it's the whiplash effect that
makes people so emotional. I'm not mad at him for
being emotional, Ryan, it's that Yes, it's a wild swing.
One week they looked awesome, the next week they look
like just mud. I mean, it's it's a thing that
drives sports fans insane.
Speaker 6 (19:08):
You've seen it, Yeah, I've had. Well, I'm headed to
the Knoxville on Friday. We'll be doing Martin McGee Saturday
morning from my alma mater, and I can tell you
first hand. I mean, the Tennessee fans turned on Josh
Heipel about three weeks ago and I'm like, how's wrong
with you? People Like were you not there for the
last fifteen years.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
I just I just.
Speaker 6 (19:29):
It's so funny to me. But yeah, by the way,
it's my rivalry weekend. So you know, we both grew
up in a world where Tennessee and Vanderbilt wasn't really
a rivalry hasn't hasn't been much of one since the
nineteen thirties.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
This will be the first time.
Speaker 6 (19:45):
In the history that they've been playing football, just the
eighteen one hundred. This will be the first time they've
both been ranked in this football game, which is crazy
to me. Vanderbilt's had some great years and obviously, you know,
it just would it would have taken one year Vanderbilt
be rank because forever Tennessee was ranked. In this game,
it'll be the first. This will be the biggest game
in the history of Vanderbilt Tennessee. And you got Diego
(20:09):
probably trying to win a heisan and Vanderbilt thinking they
can make the playoff and Tennessee with the chance to
uh and I'm quoting my college roommate here. Then the
Nerds back home, and so it'll be it'll be an
interesting It'll be an interesting Saturday in Englands.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
Daum.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
That's a good line. I like that it's not the
headline in this game. Just out of curiosity. People bring
up Clark Lee to me as part of this overall
coaching carousel discussion, Like I have a zero percent belief
that he's going anywhere. What do you think about that?
Speaker 6 (20:37):
You know? My my feeling on that is turned a
little bit. And the reason is because because Bandy has
been so good this year. We have been with them
a lot. We were with them in Texas, we were
with we were at Vanderbilt last weekend to do Martin
McGee and and then obviously we're going to see him
this weekend.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
I think this'll be the fourth time that.
Speaker 6 (20:55):
We've done Marty McGee out of Andy game this year,
which is crazy. And but I I like Clark a
lot and I love my favorite stories are the ones
where the guys go back to their alma maters and
have success, right. I mean, you talk about Tennessee was
Johnny Major's for so long in the eighties and nineties,
and it was you know, It's why it broke my
heart when like Matt lut didn't work at all this
(21:17):
or Scott Frost doesn't work in Nebraska, you know, because
it's a chance to make your alma mater look good.
And I think what Clark Lee is going to wrestle
with is the same thing that your boy Jenaimes Franklin
wrestled with, which was you know, this as good as
it can possibly get and how long could that even last?
And so you know, the reality is is that if
(21:38):
Brian Kelly had left Notre Dame one year earlier, Clarklely
would be the head football coach Notre Dame. And so
there's always going to be that voice in the back
of his head. Listen, you have you have given your
alma mater arguably the greatest season that it's had in
over a century. You know, you're going to have more
than likely have a quarterback in New York for the
as a heis and finalist. You know Alabama obviously last
(22:01):
year and everything they've done this year is that as
good as it can be, and so I think that's
what he is going to wrestle with because there are
so many good jobs open, and you know, there's only
so many seats to go around, and so once the
James Franklins and the Lane Kiffins and those guys are
off the table, I would hire Clark Lear right now
if I thought I could get him.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
So, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (22:22):
I still would be surprised, but I would not be
nearly as surprised as I would have been a month ago.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Okay, fair enough, I would be surprised, But you make
a compelling case right there. Latest round of the playoff
rankings coming out tonight. Everybody won this week. Are you
expecting any changes in the top twelve.
Speaker 6 (22:40):
No, I mean that might be a little bit of
movement here and there, just you know, this team moves
up to spots and this team moves down to spots.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
But I don't I don't see anything. I don't see
anything that's going.
Speaker 6 (22:49):
To fuel debate like it did a week ago. Poor Syracuse,
the whole world made Notre Dame mad. And I'm pretty sure, sir,
players who know they've already scored three or four more times
in that game since we just started talking, Right.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
That was crazy.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Seventy to seven.
Speaker 6 (23:04):
Yeah, it could have been worse if you watch the game.
And at one point I think no Day had scored
three times in the offense hadn't touched the ball yet.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
So it's it is a yeah. But this is why
I tossed them.
Speaker 6 (23:15):
This is why the debate is great, and it's why
we need to stay.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
Let this talk about that the.
Speaker 6 (23:20):
Big Ten want to expand this in Charlotte, right, the
Big ten pitch and let's expand this thing that twenty
four teams and no way, no, because right now the
conversation is national. You you have Oregon fans watching Vanderbilt football,
and you have well, you have Dan Lanning talking smack
about the SEC schedule. It's only because the only so
(23:41):
many teams can get in so once a much larger
percentage gets in, even one hundred and thirty six schools.
I'm a sports writer, dude, I need you your sports talk.
We need some drama and we're not going the drama
starts to dissipate. We get the twenty four teams.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
No, yes, absolutely so, I mean weekly check in now, ACC.
Now we're looking at a Virginia SMU title game here
in Charlotte. We're still debating whether or not Miami's actually
the best team in the field, and whether or not
they'll actually jump Notre Dame, so on and so forth.
I mean, what do we think about the league this week?
Speaker 4 (24:14):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (24:16):
So this morning walk up and it gets my better judgment.
First thing I do is I started looking at social media, right,
but the ACC on Instagram put out this graphic with
all of the paths to to Charlotte, and the SMU
graphic alone, I had to put my glasses on, Like
it's just it's so incredibly like when when Georgia take
(24:37):
a lost and they really should have lost to the road,
but when Georgia take lost over the weekend, you know,
I tweeted out a gift of just somebody dumping a
big place of spaghetti on the table.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
Because it's just what it is, right and you.
Speaker 6 (24:51):
Know, and shamelessly, I mean, unapologetically, I was rooting for
a Georgia Tech Virginia championship game because I wanted to
go back and write a story about it is still,
in my opinion, the greatest regular season game in the
history of the ACC, most important anyway, which is nineteen
ninety when Virginia was number one and Georgia Tech beat
them at Virginia and then Georgia taking it when to
(25:11):
share in the NAST Championship. My dad was Phil Judge
in that game. I wanted to write like an oral
history of that game, and now I'm gonna have to
settle on that. But it's yeah, listen, and I am
all for it. I think what they're doing at SMU
is amazing. I think the Virginia story is an incredible story.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
You consider where.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
That program was not ten minutes ago and now they
got a chance to play for conference championship. But I'm
glad I ain't the guy to running the second office
because I don't know it'll be.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
I have a.
Speaker 6 (25:39):
Feeling there'll be plenty of good seats available well down
at the ballpark if that's the matchup.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Yeah, to your point, my son just played his first
year of t ball. He's three years old. Yeah, and
I got a shout out the league because they negotiated
this special rate for the kids in the league to
go to the a SEC championship game. And I feel
bad about saying this publicly, but my wife was like,
that's a good deal, and I was like, Nah, you
can get that for twenty five percent of that price
if you wait to a game.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
That's just And I hate it.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
Yeah, and I hate it and I don't and it's
stertially not fair to them, but it just it is
what it is. And I mean, listen, I was talking
about nineteen ninety. I was at the Sugar Bowl that year.
It was Virginia, Tennessee, and blessed their hearts. You know,
some Virginia fans came, but they just don't. That's not
a big road crowd and so maybe they'll prove me wrong,
but it's but it is a great story and that's
(26:25):
what the league needs.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
To lean into. But yeah, smu a sc See powerhouse.
I didn't see that coming.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Yeah, it isn't a KB and Ryan conversation if I
don't bring up Bill Belichick and Chapel Hill. So uh
Manny Diaz with one of the gutsiest fake punt calls
you'll ever sit in that game on Saturday. What did
I say, Smoke, Oh, I said, oh, I'm sorry my fault.
Fake field goal. Smoke corrected me in real time, but
fake field goal call. And now Carolina is not going
bowling to four and seven. They do have a chance
(26:51):
to beat n C State, But I mean, just the
closer we get to the end of the year. There's
a front page story about this over on ESPN today.
As I'm sure you're well aware you know about why
he's still doing this as we near the end of
the season. Do you suspect he'll want to continue doing this?
Speaker 6 (27:05):
Yeah, Well it's a great storm. My bed to Tim Kewne,
who was with me at esp in a magazine forever.
He spent a lot of time at Shapel Hill working
on that piece, and it's it's a great and it's
a good take too, because you know, sometimes we get
mad when guy's coming in our backyard as college football writers.
But for the guy like Tim to going there and
attack that thing, his look, his look on it was,
his perspective on it was very fresh and so I.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
You know, it has been entertaining.
Speaker 6 (27:30):
You know, I've not been to the Triangle in a minute.
I'm gonna be up there in a couple of weeks.
I'm curious to kind of take the temperature of the room.
I feel like everybody's kind of over it.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (27:38):
Certainly they were talk about talk about ticket sales certainly
based on crowds. I don't think that's I don't think
it's been the draw that they were hoping that was. No,
I haven't in the draw that thought it would be.
But but the question is does you want to do it?
And that's the question in Tim's story, which is why
why do you Does he want to do this? Why
would he want to do this? And so yeah, Plus
you know, listen, y'all is pat practice and watching film
(28:01):
and recruiting that takes away from your time to go
watch the Chilian comtess.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
The boosters have to be embarrassed by that, right, Let's
just be honest. You know eastern North Carolina, that area
very well, like you know the blue hairs, you know
the money people. There's no way they're not humiliated by that.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
Right Yeah.
Speaker 6 (28:16):
And the one of the blue hair money people is
the reason he's.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
There, right, Like that's just it.
Speaker 6 (28:21):
And so it's just it is a In the end,
every pro collegiate athletic program has one or two people
who are who pull the springs, right. It's the car
dealer from Friday Night Light. And the difference now is
that those people have an actual license to kill and
they didn't have one of those before. And if you're
on the board of trustees, you always did. And that's
(28:43):
exactly what having this situation. So listen, man, how many
times have we had this conversation? You know, I wrote
the column a year ago when Belichick got the job,
which is I can't wait to see how they turned
this into just another North Carolina football season. And it's
just it is what it is. And and on some
level you're like, all right, why not try it? Well,
they tried it, and and if they don't feel like
(29:06):
they have the momentum going in the right direction, and
maybe they thought they did, and many das single handedly
squashed that.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
No doubt. Never a bad day for a Buddy Garretty
reference on the air. By the way, all right, I know, but.
Speaker 6 (29:17):
We met that guy, the actor. We had him on
Martin mcguhel one time and it was just Marty and
I actual like complete it is. We wouldn't have acted
like that if we'd had the Beatles, like if we
were we were for Marty McGee, Buddy Gary is the beatle?
Speaker 4 (29:28):
All right?
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Last thing? Which way is the wind blowing on Lane Kiffin?
This week?
Speaker 6 (29:33):
I think he's gone And I just you know, I
have joked and I and I kind of joke and
I kind of don't about. You know, we worked really
really hard on that East sixty documentary, the many Allie
Lane Kiffin, and and the last probably last what fifth
of it is all about why he loves Oxford and
Oxford saved his life and why he would never leave all.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
Those things, and so full disclosure.
Speaker 6 (29:57):
On Saturday, I will be in Knoxville, mar he will
be in Oxford, and uh and and I am going
to have to look at that crowd at Tennessee and say, well,
because by that time, per with the Athletic Director Ole
Miss has told us, by that time we probably will
know what's going to happen. And if Lane has left,
I'm gonna have to sit there in front of a
live studio audience in Knoxville and go, y'all tried to
(30:18):
tell me and I didn't listen to you.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
And here we sit.
Speaker 5 (30:23):
So the booze.
Speaker 6 (30:24):
It didn't take much to get Tennessee people to boo
Lane Kiffin. But but they will blue lustily.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (30:30):
If the news breaks while we're on the air, sitting
on the hill in Knoxville, Tennessee.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Well I'll be watching. Thank you for the time as always,
Happy Thanksgiving. Hold on last thing. We had a great
debate about this yesterday on the show I'm a I'm
a big believer that Thanksgiving dinner should be eaten no
later than two pm, thus allowing for a full menu,
have leftovers after the nap for dinner time. In league football,
when does the McGee family sit down for dinner?
Speaker 6 (30:53):
We're at one thirty hard. That's a hard out, a
hard d hard out, one to one thirty one. And
it's perfect too, because you don't want to kill them.
You get him eat the bowl cereal on your cup coffee,
and then just what and you just wait, just hold.
It's like brave heart hold. And then when it's time
to go, go and then but you're exactly right. That
allows for a going a little trip to fan nap
(31:15):
and then a little uh, a little late uh kind
of you know sort at dinner and yeah, no, no, one, one,
one thirty is the red zone for the McGee.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
I suspected, but now I know you're one of the
finest Americans we know here on the show. Thank you, brother.
We'll talk to you next week, all right. Appreciate you boys,
bo Ryan McGee, ESPN. Hanging out with us here on
a Tuesday seven oh four five, seven ninety six ten.
Hit us up, Hang tight, Carolina, Jay Jersey, Frank Scott,
Greg you are up first. When we return. Right now,
we go to smoke on the headlines. Who is smoked?
Where is smoked? Where there's smoke, there's fire.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
Let's go.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
What's you got? All right too?
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Panther tidbits here on the defensive backfield or a secondary
excuse me, Trayvon Mary will be appealing his suspension. I
don't think it will work, but the people that will
be hearing his suspension is either Derek Brooks, the Tampa
Bay linebacker Hall of Famer, Ramon Foster, or Jordanian Nelson.
I guess we're hoping for Derek Brooks, considering linebacker was
(32:13):
the position he played. But it's not looking good for
Marek to get back out there because this appeals likely
that gonna work, considering Jamar Chase tried to appeal the
spit fiasco last week.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Is on camera clearly punching the dude in the nards
like he's gonna sit for a week. It's not happening.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
And unfortunately, in some more bad news in the defensive secondary,
Corey Forton broke a bone in his leg. Good God,
has he done for the year. I didn't hear specify
what bone it was. You know, it could be one
of those.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
It was only five games left, so he's almost got
to be done for the year. If you broke a
bone in your leg, you're not making it back in
the next six weeks. Probably not.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
And that sucks because it felt like he was starting
to get into a rhythm.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Oh that's a bummer, yep, Darren ganht right here thirty
one minutes ago. Out for the season with a broken fibula.
Oh even worse. That's tough. All right, we'll come back.
We'll tell you who balled out, not the Panthers. We'll
take your phone calls wide open, five o'clock hour, Sports
Radio ninety two to seven w f Z.
Speaker 9 (33:22):
Sety get on your feet, hello, good protection charge for
the air zone.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Can you go to the buck.
Speaker 10 (33:34):
He's got a good coming on the side by side
the lock cant back to Bush running into the area,
It'll pass towards uprights for Peppy.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
It's time for who balled Out? Powered by High Performance
real Estate Advisors the biggest dad gumballer of them all,
Thomas L. Rodd. Go to high Performance real Estate dot
Com and they'll see you at the closing table. Smoke
would you bring for the people?
Speaker 3 (34:07):
Another job is off the board, and still Waters the
latest one off the board. I'm going with Oklahoma State
because they just hired Eric Morris as their next head coach.
The head coach at North Texas. The Mean Green is
gonna now be wearing orange in twenty twenty six. And
here's the real cool thing here. North Texas and Oklahoma
State have agreed to allow Morris to coach North Texas
(34:28):
if it advances to the American Championship Game and the playoffs,
which is still a possibility for de Mean Green. But hey,
steal water getting the disciple of Mike Leach. Oh yeah,
the air raids back and still water, baby.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
That's pretty cool. I'll go with aj Statton McCrae, scoring
twenty two points to lead Seaton Hall to yesterday's eighty
five seventy four win over n C State and No
State fans, I take no pleasure in you losing, so
don't think I'm doing this to troll you. But I
actually think Seaton Hall is gonna end up being better
than people think. I don't think that's gonna end up
being as battle loss some people think it will be.
There're six and o to start the season. Maybe things change,
(35:03):
maybe they get hurt. We'll see. But I don't think
that Seaton Hall loss is going to be as bad
as people think.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
This is the same They have the same coach that
led Saint Peter, Yes, Geene Holloway, Yeah yeah to an
elite eight.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Yeah yeah. I don't feel like we laugh today. And
that's what Fiddy did this morning, and I get it,
that's the rivalry. But I don't think that loss is
going to look as bad by the time February rolls around.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
And I'll go ahead and say that NC State, for
a second straight day, has been playing in during our
time slot. Borring massive collapse. They're gonna beat Boise State
so they get back on track of a win. And
by the way, that's nice to see the ACC beat
the Mountain West team, because you know how CBS and
the propaganda machines love hyping up the Mountain West.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Well, as soon as they signed that deal with the
Mountain West, all of a sudden, the Mountain West was
the greatest thing since slic spread a couple of years ago.
You're led to believe, you're told, don't worry about that,
don't pay attention to that. It has nothing to do
with it. Of course, by the way, our lone Oklahoma
State fan in the audience likes the paychecks, says, don't
hate it. Just glad it wasn't Zach Robinson, which is
weird because Zach Robinson played at Oklahoma Stead. He did,
(36:04):
he did. All right, let me take some phone calls here,
let's see, Carolina Jy has been waiting patiently to talk
about the panthers twenty to nine loss to the forty
nine ers on Monday Night football. Carolina J. What's going on?
Speaker 9 (36:16):
What's going on?
Speaker 4 (36:17):
Guys? Hey man?
Speaker 11 (36:18):
You guys saw what I saw. Man, it was a
it was a tough one. And you know, I could
start out by just looking at the statline. What's that
thirteen carries for sixty nine yards and then when you
look at at at the forty nine ers, thirty eight carries, right,
So what head coach in their mind is going to
(36:41):
allow only thirteen carries through out an entire game.
Speaker 7 (36:45):
Four.
Speaker 11 (36:45):
By the way, we're by Bryce, and I love Bryce,
but does it look like he's like throwing a loaf
of bread when he's throwing the ball and he just
just doesn't just doesn't do it for.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
Me, man.
Speaker 11 (36:55):
But more than that, Man Canalis.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
Man, I mean, guys, let's.
Speaker 7 (36:59):
Just be honest.
Speaker 11 (37:01):
He's a new head coach trying to call plays. I mean,
he doesn't have it, Guys. He looks pedestrian when he
goes against a decent head coach. And I'm telling you
it doesn't matter what quarterback you bring in. We saw
that Cam couldn't overcome Mike Shulett at least in the
championship game, right, So I mean what I'm saying, guys,
(37:22):
is there has to be a separation between Dave's Canalis
and I got a new name for him for him,
Dave's Canalist analysis paralysis, right, And so that's that's where
I'm coming from, the game is getting a little bit
too big for him. He needs to give up play calling,
give it, give it to somebody else, because this is
(37:43):
not it. I still kind of believe in Bryce, but
how can he overcome a coach that on Monday Night
football only runs runs the ball thirteen times. I'll take
the rest off there, guys.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
No, I'm gonna amend hold on because well, don't hold on.
Speaker 4 (37:56):
You can go.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
But I think that that new nickname was a little
bit longer. I think we can show it. Right, when
the offense plays poorly, you can go paralysis by canalysis.
You just you just add an extra. Smoke likes it.
Smoke's impressed. Right, It's it's a little bit extra there
at the end, right, But paralysis. Herman's photography said that
nickname was trash. I cleaned it up for him. Paralysis
(38:19):
by canalysis. Right, we'll go with that. I thought he
had his worst game as a Panthers head coach last night.
I really did. I didn't think Bryce was much better.
But I thought Dave Canalis had his worst game as
the Panthers head coach last night. And maybe he'd, you know,
dispute that. Maybe the front office would too. But I
know I'm not alone in thinking that. Today that he
had his worst worst game as the head coach of Carolina.
Scott is up next, Scott. What's going on?
Speaker 6 (38:41):
Hey, Kyle.
Speaker 12 (38:44):
Let me start this off as saying I've been a
fan of Bryce Young, but I'm trying to question him
this year. And I get everybody saying, oh, Dave Canalis
needs to trust Bryce song, let him merit out, let
him run the offense. And on a first and goal,
would I have liked run?
Speaker 5 (38:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 12 (38:58):
But as play worked, Bryce had options. You know what happened.
Your number one overall pick picked one out of three options,
and that one he picked was a bad choice. Let
me throw it in double coverage with the corner just
spying on me, where I can either run it into
the end zone or throw it out of bounds. At
(39:22):
some point you have to start blaming the player making
bad decisions. He did it earlier this year where he
threw balls in harm's way. Yep, Canalas has outperformed Bryce
Young this year, no question about it. Bryce needs to
become more consistent, and if he doesn't over these last
few games, it's time to let him go. I'm sorry,
(39:45):
I love the kid, but he's just not consistent and
he never consistently makes the right decisions. It's simple.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Okay, appreciate the phone calls, got thank you, buddy, smoke
what you got over there.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
And my question is, all right, if you want to
let Bryce go after this year, who are you going with?
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Oh yeah, I've no end. Listen, I've told you already.
That's the problem.
Speaker 4 (40:08):
It's it.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
Look, you can move on. You could move on from
them if it was a different offseason. But this is
not one of those off seasons where you move on.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
There's no world in which I'm drafting a quarterback in
the first round this year. This class is not that good.
Maybe one of these guys turns out to be great,
the time will tell that probably won't be for four
years down the road, and then.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
You wouldn't even be available at in the range to
get those quarterbacks too, because the quarterbacks that are gonna
be going are going to all be within the top ten.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
I'm much more interested in letting Dan Morgan continue to cook,
keep building. It was not that long ago that we
were pointing out that the Panthers were responsible for the
fewest numbers of drafted or fewest number of drafted players
on rosters in the NFL, not even their own roster,
just rosters across the league. How many players overall in
the total pot of players in the NFL on rosters
had been drafted by the Carolina Panthers. Carolina was dead last,
(40:54):
dead last, okay, by the end of the sky Fitterer era.
All right. On top of that, look how many former
players off of last year's team didn't even make NFL
rosters to start the season. Y'all? This roster was bad
when Dan Morgan took over. I mean bad, bad, and
it's gotten better. So I'm more interested. As I've said,
we don't have to agree on everything, but if you're
(41:15):
asking for my opinion, if you value it at all,
my opinion is, I'm bringing Bryce back for year four.
I'm signing a veteran. I might even draft a guy
on Day two or three if there's somebody that I
really like. But I am continuing to let Dan Morgan
bring linebackers into this defense. Go find another edge rusher
for this defense, continue to invest in the offensive line,
which is never a bad move in any draft. Okay,
(41:37):
there are so many things that I think can benefit
this team better. Maybe you can, you know, trade for
Mac Jones. I don't think that San Francisco is gonna
want to let him go, but maybe you trade for
mac Jones to bring him in here and let him compete.
But I'm bringing Bryce back for year four. Personally, they
have until May to decide on the fifth year option,
and I'm probably doing that too because it's a smart
move and if he does continue to improve, you save
yourself money. So that would be my plan. But if
(42:00):
you believe that Dan Morgan has done a good job
with this roster, I think the smartest, most prudent thing
to do is to let him continue doing that. Our
number three next Jersey Frank is up first. Then we
got Greg, then we got Carolina Mike, then we got Tanner.
Got a whole lot of calls to take sports Radio
ninety two seven WF and Z
Popular Podcasts
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
Ding dong! Join your culture consultants, Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang, on an unforgettable journey into the beating heart of CULTURE. Alongside sizzling special guests, they GET INTO the hottest pop-culture moments of the day and the formative cultural experiences that turned them into Culturistas. Produced by the Big Money Players Network and iHeartRadio.
Crime Junkie
Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.