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in the Garden six thirty pre game here on the
flagship wfn Z. A lot of texts coming in. At
the end of the Charles Lee conversation, we had wait
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a minute. Oh Herman's photography said, KB, you asked that
question in the most professional way.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Imaginable, great work.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Others you know appreciative of the question about the fourth
quarter rotation against Brooklyn Sweet Cheeks, saying thank you for
asking about the lineup. His answer is extremely concerning. He's
willing to lose to prove a point. Is he the
right coach or would he be more suited for college
because that sounds like something a college coach would do.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
I mean, I.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Know that college and the NBA are different. That should
go without having to be said. But isn't it still
basketball and coaching at the end of the day. Again,
I understand that the dynamics are a bit different. I
get it, But like if what Charles Lee just said
when I asked him about having and I think the
rotation now that I'm thinking harder on it was t
Jon Salon, Antonio Reeves, Liam McNeely, Sion James and Colin
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Sexton midway through the fourth quarter in a tight game
where you're looking for your third straight win, and that's
the lineup you have on the floor in the third
quarter in a tight ball game. Didn't make a lot
of sense to me, and so I asked him about it,
and what he essentially said right there was, well, you know,
it's multiple things, but we have certain expect to and
I'm gonna paraphrase a little bit, certainly we have expectations
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about how we play, who we are, what our identity is,
and when we don't do those things, and when we
don't deliver on those things, you know, sometimes the best
thing to do is you're gonna have to come sit
on the bench with me and let somebody else play. Again,
I'm paraphrasing, but that's more or less what he said,
and that listen. I mean that that sounds like honesty
to me, and it sounds like accountability to me. Are
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you not supposed to keep hold these guys accountable? I
realized that some of these Lamello's making two hundred and
five million dollars, I get it, Like Miles, I forget that.
Whatever how much money he's making, it's a lot. Okay,
twenty six I believe something in that range. Sure, I'm mistaken. Sure,
Like I don't know, do you? Does anybody have a
problem with that? If that is in fact what occurred there?
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Like Weddington, Matt just said he's tanking. Kevin said, uh,
I don't buy Charles Lee's explanation. Neither does Omit. I'm
guessing their buddies, he says, hashtag we tanking. Somebody else
said the exacting I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
I got.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
If he has expectations, if they're trying to, you know,
continue building this culture con seems to be all about
the culture con? Was the guy a couple of nights
ago giving that lengthy quote to Rod Boone where he said,
it's really disappointing. I can handle winning and losing, but
when we have an identity and where we know who
we're supposed to be and we don't do that and
we don't compete hard enough and we don't play hard enough,
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that's really disappointing. You know, And con made that statement.
Doesn't that line up with what he just said? So
I mean you could say, hey, we're tanking. You know what,
maybe the front office is fine with riding out another
bad season. Maybe they have long term plans. Maybe those
short term plans. By the way, guys can be traded
coming up here in about twelve days in the NBA,
A lot of them. Anyway, Like, maybe the front office
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wants to be in on this really deep draft class.
I can't tell you that they don't. But even within that,
you still need a coach who is developing a culture,
developing expectations how you want to play the way you
do things. And don't you want that guy enforcing those rules?
Don't you want that guy enforcing what it is he
thinks the culture should be. Aren't you better for that?
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So I I mean, I don't know what he from
Stanley says, but tanking for who KB?
Speaker 2 (04:11):
What do you mean?
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Have you seen this draft class? Let's go to the store.
We got plenty of options here.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
I mean, this is a I mean, they're probably five
six players in this draft that teams are gonna come
it in a big time way.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
This draft is somehow much deeper than last year's draft class,
and last year's draft class was viewed as a very
good draft.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Yeah, I mean when you say for who they're I
mean we've talked about Boozer and Peterson and Pete and
who am I leaving out here? Caleb Wilson and you
know NIOCLASEB Dallas even he's being you know, projected as
a top eight to ten pick Coe.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Lester Sinton, and I also throw Nate Ament in there
from Tennessee, who was originally committed to Duke. That was
another one right there. Yeah, that's what four or five
guys we just mentioned.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
I mean, Ac just said Greg Popovich would going back
to the whole you know, holding them accountaboy says Greg
Popovich would, Yeah, he did. Pop did a lot of
coaches did. Now, a lot of folks would tell you
that the old school way of coaching, you know, is
tough to get by with in the NBA these days.
It's why Tim's doesn't last as long as he does,
and things like that, blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
But I don't know.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
I'm I I that's the kind of coaching that I like.
That's the kind of coaching that I still think works
in athletics, even.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
At the NBA level.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
So I don't if he's What he's really doing is
holding these guys to account and saying, you don't want
to play the way that I want you to that
we know we have to the way that by the way,
just won us two games back to back against the
ball It'd be one thing if they were in the
midst of an eleven game losing streak and never doing
anything right. But they played a certain way against the
Bulls and the Raptors and back to back days, two
winning teams and beat them. I mean the Raptors outside
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of maybe okay, see hottest team in the NBA. They
beat him on Saturday. Oh definitely, I'm playing the right way. Okay,
so he's only lost one game, I know, I know,
I know. I was talking just in terms of win streak.
But you know, I think there's some credence to it,
and you know it's easier to argue that he does
the right thing in that spot because they just showed
you what they could do and what they could be
when they play the right way as opposed to eighteen turnovers,
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twenty seven points off of turnovers, lackadaisical closeouts, giving up
forty percent shooting from deep to a Brooklyn Nets team
that had no business doing that. So I don't have
a problem ever with a coach trying to enforce the culture,
trying to enforce his style of play. You know, it
doesn't bother me. That part doesn't bother me. Seven oh four, five,
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seven ninety six to ten. Let's go to Greg on
the phone lines real quick, Greg, what's going on, Bud?
Speaker 4 (06:37):
How you doing?
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Man? Good?
Speaker 4 (06:40):
I want to tell you a story. A blond guy
went to sleep Saturday night during the dup Way Farers game,
and he woke up Sunday afternoon and he had a
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miracle took place in while he was sleep. Yeah, he
got his outsite, man, And the headline on reservisis Duke
an AC Championship. Oh to speak, the lost time this rams.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Wow, you had a good weekend.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
I thought that was funny. I didn't.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Just I'm just trying to follow along, that's all.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Hey, Hey, you got to be blind to understand that.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
I thank you, Greg, I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
I'm gonna say, hopefully next time you go to sleep,
you wake up and the Hornets become a very good team.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
That'd be cool. That'd be really cool.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
All right, Speaking of Duke and the ACC and the
title game coming up on Saturday, we got Michael Strickland
coming up in about sixteen minutes. He is the Senior
Associate Commissioner for football. They got called him the s
VP earlier. I think he's the SAC. Actually, I won't
read that acronym. He is the and your Associate commissioner
for Atlantic Coast Conference football. And he joined me at
(08:05):
ACC kickoff in Uptown. Stop laughing. Back in July, and
Michael Strickland is back on the show in about fifteen minutes.
I want to see what he thinks about the way
the committee is talking about and treating the Atlantic Coast
Conference after last night's rankings. So we'll get to him
in fifteen minutes. Right now, we go to smoke with
the best audio in sports.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
What did you say? You what?
Speaker 5 (08:26):
What did you say?
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Wait a minute? Send me right.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
What I mean by that is what.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
You got, Honny.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
You mentioned to college football playoff ranking Reville. Yesterday, as
the playoffs got revealed again, Alabama jumped Notre Dame because
of her gutsy win against five and seven Auburn, despite
Auburn not having a full time head coach. Very odd
to put it that way, but Notre Dame still is
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in front of both BYU and Miami, and yesterday Hunter
yr Check was asked on the show whether or not
teams that don't play this weekend could potentially jump other
teams into rankings by next Sunday.
Speaker 6 (09:10):
The management committee during the offseason provided some clarification to
some comments that were made last year, and indeed, idle
teams can move following the results of the championship games
and how they impact the teams that are around those
that play in the championship game and data such as
strength of scheduled teams that may be idle. So yes,
teams that are idle can move up or down. So
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we're not set with Miami definitively being behind Notre Dame.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
No matter. What is that fair to say?
Speaker 6 (09:39):
Rees following the championship games, we will re rank the
top twenty five teams and we'll see where they fall.
I'm going to take that as the Canes still have
a chance.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Why did he have to Why did he have to
read between the lines there? Why did he have I'm
going to take that. Just say it if you mean it,
just say it. This has put me in, as we've
talked about, precarious situation because I the last team I
root for is the Miami Hurricanes. They're not my least
favorite team, but I supports hate the Hurricanes, but they
have my full support in all of this.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
They have my full full support. And as a Notre
Dame fan, look, I get it, fair's fair.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
If Miami gets in over Notre Dame, I'm I'm gonna
it sucks, especially after they were twiddling their thumbs this
whole time by having Notre Dame ahead of Miami. But
I'll get it, and it just makes it makes me
mad that he just didn't do this from the get go,
in my opinion, like, just do the right thing for
the get go and then I'll be a lot happier
and cheerful. My problem is the fact that they already
put Alabama ndstate and see they're good. They're going to
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no matter what unless they get blown out, which a
highly doubt's gonna happen there in it's.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
A built in mulligan for the season essentially.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Yeah, And essentially what they're doing right now is they're saying, see,
you have to pay attention to all these shows.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
We now put Miami ahead of Notre Dame. Oh you
doubted us. Oh that's what it kind of feels like.
It's like this is not supposed to be for show.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
And that's why I'm content next year, no matter what happened,
if we just get back to the damn computer telling us,
I'd rather be tell I'm getting screwed by a computer
to being told I'm getting screwed by a bunch of
politicians that are masquerading as athletic directors in playoff committee members.
Well as it relates to Miami too, I thought David Hale,
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who was just on the show, I think what two
weeks ago, did a great job laying this out, and
he points out that both BYU and Miami have been
victims of as he put it, quote utterly disingenuous evaluation
end quote by the committee, and he said, for Miami,
the logic is obvious.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
The Canes beat Notre Dame head to head. But let's
keep going. Miami's two losses SMU and Louisville would rank
as the fourth and fifth toughest games on Notre Dame's
schedule had the Irish played them instead. Notre Dame has
cruised through and essentially listless slate. Six of Notre Dame's
ten wins came against teams that beat zero or one
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other power for opponent. Stanford is Notre Dame's fourth best
win by record Stanford. So yeah, Notre Dame played well
enough in losses to two very good teams, but one
of those teams has the same record and is somehow
ranked lower. Even if this is strictly about the quote
unquote eye test, there's little argument for ignoring the head
to head outcome. Notre dame strength of record is thirteenth,
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Miami's is fourteenth. Notre Dame's game control is fifth, Miami's
is sixth. If all else is the same, how is
head to head not the deciding factor?
Speaker 5 (12:24):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (12:24):
But it is for Texas and Vandy. Now this week
by the way, Yeah, now head to head matters.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
You know.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
At Texas, by the way, big win over the number
three team of the country.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
They moved up what thirteen Texas A and m so,
So what.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Matters more good good wins or not having bad losses
and win exactly?
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Does head to head matter?
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Because it matters for Texas and Vanderbilt last night, but
it apparently still doesn't matter for Miami and Notre Dame.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
I think bad losses hurt these teams more because we
saw it hurt in Alabama and it's now hurt Miami
even though Miami didn't lose to bad teams.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
I've grown so exhausted already of this Converse station like you.
And it's only because I love having a twelve team field.
I would love a sixteen team field more. What I
hate is just the making it up as they go
along each and every week, because that is one hundred
percent what they're doing. They are just making it up
as they go along, and they trot out officials and
they try to use, you know, very confounding circular logic
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to you know, make you forget what you were talking
about or thinking about, to not focus on the fact
that they're just making it up and applying certain rules
to certain teams but not to other teams. That's what
they're doing every single week.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Yeah, they did a Nascar method. It's crazy. What else
you got? All right?
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Keeping things in college football, but to a team that
is not in the playoff hunt at all, even though
they expected to be in the playoff hunt. We go
to South Carolina where there are seasons officially over, and
this happened on Saturday. But we've been busy with a
lot of other stuff. Shane Beemer sounded very confident after
the game after they lost to Clemson that things will
be back to what it was in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 7 (13:55):
They hate it for the seniors that don't come back,
but I can one billion percent and promise you this
when we have a hell of a season in twenty
twenty six, and when I'm doing this press conference after
the Clemson game next year and we finished the regular
season that because of the success that we're going to
have next season.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
I know we will. We're going to look back at.
Speaker 7 (14:16):
This season and say it sucked winning going through it,
but because of what we went through in twenty five,
it led us to what we just did in twenty
six A million percent.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Confident in that.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Well, I mean, he has nothing to lose by saying that.
First of all, I think he believes it. In his
heart of hearts, I guarantee you he believes it. He's
hell bent and determined to get that program turned around.
He's going back next year and if he doesn't turn
it around, they're going to fire him.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Yeah, he's the coach's now the main coach on the
hot seat, and yees.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
So, I mean people have been making a big deal
out of what he said right there, and I don't
know why, because we all we're all grown ups. He's
either going to do exactly what he just said or
he won't, and they're going to fire him and pay
him to go away.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
And that's that.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
And we won't really be talking to the promise that
he made a year ago to turn things around, because
every coach more or less says stuff like this.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Now, it's going to be difficult.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
I think like retaining Lenora's sellers is a big piece
of the puzzle.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
And did you hear his answer when he was asked about.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Play it for the people, play the Lenora Sellers for
the answer or the answer when he was asked about
you know, next year in twenty twenty six. He's a
South Carolina homegrown product, but he's going to have a
lot of attention here.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
It is, Lenora, are you staying at South Carolina next year?
Speaker 8 (15:28):
I mean straight too, yeah, I mean when the scison's
going to make a decision, When Tom calls me concisions,
I make a decision whatever's best for me, Okay, So.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
You know it's business. At the end of the day.
You got to retain him, though. I mean that's the thing,
is that, like, Shane's got to get more help in there.
But now people are looking at the program a little
bit differently than they were a year ago.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Oh my gosh, coach Bimber, I just got a call
from the three ZHO.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Five, right, you know, oh, coach Christobaul's calling. But in
all seriousness, now, all of a sudden, you start to
look at Shane and his staff, like, is that a
lame duck staff? Is that where I want to go
to spend a year only to get fired. That's how
college football works. I mean it's I'm not I think
we all get it. So it's doable, but you got
to keep Lenoris, I've told you the ECU offensive coordinator
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whose name is escaping David Baker. Hey, I want to
call him Booty. I'd pursue him. You got to go
get an offensive coordinator that can bring the best out
in your quarterback. You gotta fix your offensive line. So
I mean, I think Shane believes what he says, but
it doesn't matter. He either does it or he doesn't.
What else you got?
Speaker 2 (16:33):
All Right?
Speaker 1 (16:34):
We end on a fun one here because I can't
I can't believe it. But it's been twenty six years
since Any Given Sunday was released in theaters, and that
was a big movie in the late nineties and early
two thousands with Jamie Fox, Randy Quaid out Pacino.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
I can't do an al Pacino, Cameron Diaz, you get it.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
But Bill Bellamy was also on that movie, Kyle, and
he actually revealed a funny story, a legendary story regarding
one of the coaches on that team in Jim Brown
on the seven PM in Brooklyn and how one extra
kept it a little too real and it all went wrong.
Speaker 9 (17:09):
The younger dude don't know Jim Brown. I'm talking Florida Board,
Liberty City. Hey, man tall, little o G may get
the phone, bro, and everybody like, man, chill out, chill out.
That's Jim Brown't get that James Brown. But I don't
know even like that. Bro White keep walking around here
talking sleep. I say, oh man, that's Jim Brown.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Man, O G.
Speaker 9 (17:28):
Hall of Fame. Man about all that. Man, I'm gonna
get off the chain on that. He coming over here, right,
so one day I never forget. It is so funny, right,
I wish I could remember the dude named nobody even
talking to him. He woke up, oh yo, and my
dad run through all you look and now y'all can
do with this.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
He's man, who is you?
Speaker 9 (17:44):
O Gber That that's how they talk.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Old teeth in his mouth. He said, what you say
to me, young man?
Speaker 9 (17:50):
Now imagine he got a coofy on he gotta cut
off and some flip flops because he got bad. He said,
what you say said out? You heard me, young boy?
He picked you Jim Brown up in the body, slam
Jim Brown on the ground. He said, man, this dude
got bum rushed off that football field so fast. We
(18:12):
never saw him beget Jim let him talk. Funny part
was Jim Brown was looking for It's cool because he was.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
We might so.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Some random extra just like body slam Jim Brown on
the set.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Because he found us some old man just talking crap.
Oh that's brutal, not like.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Top two greatest running back of all time. Bill didn't
have to go tell that's like, I'm glad he did.
But Bill didn't have to go tell that story on
Jim Brown.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Damn Jim can't defend himself, all right, Damn Bill that
you did him dirty? All right?
Speaker 3 (18:43):
That's what did you say? The best audio in the
world of sports. When we return Michael Strickland, the senior
Associate Commissioner for Atlantic Coast Conference Football. We caught up
back in July at ACC operation Kickoff. Well the playoffs
nearly here. The penultimate rankings came out last night. The
title game is in Charlotte on Saturday, and we'll talk
a lot of ACC football with Michael Strickland.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Next.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Sports Radio ninety two to seven wfn Z. Sports Radio
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KB and Smoke hanging out with you, having a really
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Two time pro bowler, Super Bowl champion. SEC Network analyst
our buddy Roman Harper joins us every Wednesday at five
o'clock and we'll talk about all things SEC football and
(19:46):
get his thoughts on the Panthers upsetting the Rams at
the Bank earlier this week back on Sunday. So all
that's coming up seven oh four, five, seven ninety six
to ten, hit us up with your thoughts and quick
reminder with the ACC title game in Charlotte in uptown
at the Bank this weekend. Duke head coach Manny Diaz
back on the show tomorrow right now, I think tentatively
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scheduled for five o'clock on the show. So Manny Diaz tomorrow,
Duke and in Virginia for an ACC championship smoke what
you got do?
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Also need to mention we got to mention who's playing
a concert at the ACCA.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Ricky Rose.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Yes, the boss, Rick Ross. It's Friday, right, I believe.
So Rick Ross has been in Charlotte a bunch the
last couple of months. He was in our building, like
I want to say three four months ago, and I
was sitting in the office and somebody's like, Hey, did
you go meet Rick Ross?
Speaker 2 (20:34):
I'm like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (20:36):
They were like Rick Ross is in the building and
I'm like stop, like no really, and I missed him.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
So nothing will make me laugh as loud as when
we had Chubby Checker come in here and he literally
had a tour bus and said, Chubby Checker, It's like, wow,
he's really keeping it silent here.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
That's true. That's true. All right.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Well, speaking of celebrities, we got Michael Strickland, the senior
Associate Commissioner of Atlantic Coast Conference Football. He and I
had a great conversation in uptown back during AC see
kickoff at the start of the college football season, and
now that we are nearing the end, Michael Strickland is
kind enough to jump back on here in the week
of the ACC championship game.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Michael, it's good to have you back, my man. How
you been alb has been doing well.
Speaker 5 (21:12):
We've made it through the grind of the regular season
and now the postseason is upon us.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Oh yeah, no, I'm excited about it. We got Manny
Diaz on the show to talk about it. Duke Virginia
and listen, I guess I'll just dive right in. There's
been a lot of talk this week between myself and
some of the folks at the ACC Network and other
folks that cover college football about the fact that, you know,
Duke won a five way tiebreaker for that final spot
based on combined winning percentage of conference opponents and things
like that. You know, I'm sure you can't tell me
(21:38):
everything that's being discussed internally, but what are your thoughts
on the way Duke got in. Does the conference maybe,
you know, look to address that this offseason.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Is that an issue in your mind, Well, there's I think.
Speaker 5 (21:49):
We'll take a look at it in the off season
and our and our winter meetings, in our spring meetings
with both our athletic directors and head football coaches, that's
the group that has evaluated that annually for many years.
We made this change from you'll remember, Kyle, we eliminated divisions,
first conference in America to do so in twenty twenty three,
to to consolidate down in the kind of one division,
if you will, and then we expanded further thereafter. So
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these tiebreakers date back to our spring meetings of twenty
twenty three. We anticipated a number of different scenarios and
certainly multi team ties with like we saw here we're
part of our consideration set. I think a key philosophy
philosophical point rather that you'll have to talk about and
we'll have to talk about, is our conference games the
(22:32):
only games you evaluate to determine who plays you for
your title or do you start to consider, you know,
non conference games and whether those factor into tiebreakers or not.
But as you know, not all non conference schedules are
created equally either. So it's just a it's a complicated subject,
but we'll dive into it and same No.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
I hear you, and I appreciate the answer, and I
will say, you know, as a talking head by trade,
you know, those of us in the college football universe,
we do have I'll call it a bad habit sometimes
of complaining about college football's rules and wanting change, and
then sometimes we get that change, and a couple of
years later we're already lamenting that change. And like you
just mentioned a second ago, scrapping divisions back in twenty
twenty three, You know, I was excited about it then,
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but now I hear a lot of people, especially given
what's going on with the playoff Committee, rankings and everything else,
lamenting the fact that these conferences have gotten too big.
What do you think about the latest complaint?
Speaker 5 (23:23):
Well, it is interesting. You hear a lot of complaints,
but oftentimes the complaints that we hear or see or
read don't offer many solutions to replace the current situation.
So if someone can explain to me the math of
how at a seventeen team league we can divide into
two divisions and play an equal and equitable schedule, I'd
love to see that.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Yeah, it's a good answer. No, I appreciate the answer.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
What just like, we're sitting here, you know, today, talking
about the rankings last night, and you've got a conference
game in Virginia and Duke, where, if we're all being honest,
it's kind of a worst case scenario. Maybe you disagree,
but it's kind of a worst case scenario for the
acc that Duke wins, and the possibility of the conference
not getting the automatic berth for the conference champion being
ranked highly enough. And you know, then there's Miami and
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Notre Dame and what seems to be the ignoring of
a head to head data point, like, what's your opinion
on how the committee is treating your conference in the
last couple of weeks.
Speaker 5 (24:15):
Well, two different pieces there we'll start. We'll start first
with Miami, and Miami is right there on the precipice
of being in this playoff. We need, we need to
result candidly out of the Big twelve championship game. I
think most people expect Texas Tech a great football team,
BYU go football team as well, but Texas Tech takes
care of business. That'll put Miami over BYU and the
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final ranking, and that puts some adjacent to some people
that they've got some commonality with for a number of reasons.
So we're very confident, quite frankly that on Sunday, as
the selection committee chair Hunter Yurchik mentioned and confirmed in
his press conference Tuesday night, idle teams can move, and
teams that play and lose and championship games can be
held accountable for their performance. Really good that Miami is
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going to be in the field of twelve come Sunday afternoon.
As relates to Duke winning the championship game, They've got
a tough opponent in Virginia. We're looking forward to a
really high scoring game. You got a top twenty team
in Virginia ACC Coach of the Year and Antony Elliott.
You've actually talked about Manny a guest of yours oftentimes
two dynamic quarterbacks. We're gonna have a lot of points,
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a lot of yards. I think we're in for a
really fun game Saturday night at eight fourteen at the Bank.
Virginia wins. Obviously they're in Duke wins. That will be
their tenth Power four game played this season. It would
be their seventh Power four win. It would be their
fifth Power four win on the road. It would be
a Top twenty five win. It would be their fourth
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win against a team with an above five hundred record.
Print out James Madison's resume, UNLV's resume, and Boise's resume,
and tell me if any of those boxes are checked.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Now I like that argument, now, I really do any Listen,
I know you mentioned Hunter, you're a check and I
know that you a lot of these guys in the
committee or colleagues of yours, probably friends of yours. So
I'm not asking you to speak ill of anybody, but
I know, as somebody who talks about the sport every day,
some of the inconsistency in the way they seem to
evaluate this team or these teams. It's a parent and
it's frustrating. For instance, you know, head to head between
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Notre Dame in Miami doesn't seem to have gotten as
much consideration as I think it should. But then last night,
you know, Texas jumps Vanderbilt in part we're told because
of the head to head result between those two teams.
Do you find it to be a little bit inconsistent
week to week?
Speaker 5 (26:30):
Well, you're right. Hunter is a friend. He got his
start in college athletics working at Wake Forest, so he's
got acc blood in him. The committee has a very
difficult job. The parody in college football today compared to
even six, seven, eight years ago, there's just a lot
more teams that are capable of winning at a high level.
I think when the CFP format started, we probably had
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three or four teams that were talented enough to win
the whole thing. And I think most observers would agree
that there's going to be teams that are left out
of this year's playoffs that are capable of winning the
whole thing. So I think we have to keep that
in mind that they've got a very difficult job. You
do make some points about consistency. I think we all
hope for any governing body to be very consistent in
the application of the rules, and so that's often what
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we ask for is just be consistent. You know, we
learned the hard way that there's a rule about the
unavailability of key players or coaches back in twenty twenty three,
and then we almost learned the hard way last year
that teams that lose a championship game may fall more
than two or three spots in the rankings. And so
if those were the rules that are going to be
applied against ACC teams, then those should be the same
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rules applied against others others this year.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Do you one of the popular arguments that I get
on my fandual text line here on the show is
that maybe we've gotten too far back in the direction
of subjectivity and the eye test and further away from
I don't know, maybe some algorithmic or more empirical data
driven type decision making allah the bcs and the computers
and the indexes and things like that. Do you think
we're still striving for a balance or you know, what's
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the right way to go there?
Speaker 5 (28:02):
I think a balance is important. I mean metrics, Metrics
are valuable to We've got great data that determines over
the course of a long period of time what makes
for a successful football team. But at the end of
the day, we've got bright light bulbs on scoreboards that
are our wonderful metric to evaluate and look at how
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teams did when they played against one another lined up
face to face, and look at how teams did against
common opponents on the very same field. That's pretty good
metric to look at as well.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Michael Strickland, Senior Associate Commissioner ACC Football, with us here
on the hotline. A couple quick things will let you go.
You and I had a conversation back in July about
the perception of ACC football continuing to grow the brand,
you know, getting better coaches, better players inside the conference,
you know, in the midst of all that's going on
right now, but also just looking ahead to the next
couple of years. James Franklin just got added to the conference.
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Bill Belichick's going to come back for year two. We
assume Jake Dickrid's done a great job at Wake Forest.
What do you think about the overall effort and momentum
for this conference to be and become consistently a two
to three team in the playoff. You know, national champion
factor every single year without question.
Speaker 5 (29:11):
We feel really good about our trajectory and where we are.
You've seen a number of schools make a number of
declarative statements. You mentioned Virginia Tech and hiring coach Franklin.
You saw Boston College make a bold announcement earlier this week.
You mentioned some other examples. You see Stanford making a
huge financial investment. So everywhere you look up and down,
the up and down and across the ACC footprint, everyone
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is doubling down on an investment and commitment to football success.
So we feel great about where we're headed. It's very
difficult to win football games, as you know, it will
be super competitive both within the ACC and nationally, but
we feel great at about our level of commitment and
our future success.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
I was talking to Ryan McGee a ESPN about this yesterday,
about the perceived SEC bias, Like, you know, that's a thing,
no matter what your stance on it is, you know
the frame, it's a thing that people talk about. ESPN
is your partner. You guys do a good job at
the ACC network. Is there ever, Like what's the extent
of the conversation inside the building, Like would you hear
people talk about an SEC bias. As an ACC committed
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or ACC executive who also works with ESPN, what's your
response to that.
Speaker 5 (30:18):
Well, I think at the end of the day, we
need to line up on the field against our opponents
and score more points than they do. And that's the
way to resolve all issues in sports. And so our
job is to be to be the best we can be,
feeld the best possible teams that are the best coach
and perform under the bright lights and the pressure and
the scrutiny and win ball games. And that'll solve that'll
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solve everything else.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
All Right, This is a question I've been dying to
ask you all day. Virginia NC State in Brazil next year.
I love college football. I love Brazil. Really, I think
it's an awesome place. We've seen the NFL do this
for years. Why why take Virginia and NC State to
South America? How does that benefit the sport? How does
that benefit the Atlantic Coast Conference.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
We're really excited about our increased involvement international games. You know,
we've played in the game in Ireland for several several
years in the past. We've got a number of games
on the books with them in the future, including North
Carolina TCU this coming year. Virginia n C State were
approached with a unique opportunity. Uh, I think the group,
the Group of Brazil, which will be here with a
Saturday night here in Charlotte, and we're hosting them and
(31:22):
excited to have them. There may be there may be
more games that they're able to bring, you know, a
SEC teams down. Therefore, certainly financially it's very there's some
lucrative opportunities. The unique, the unique and exclusive exposure playing
in week zero from a national television perspective, and then
the unique educational experience for our student athletes to be
able to experience a culture that that that they in
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a country that they wouldn't otherwise have caused to travel to.
We're still in the education business and the experience business
in college football, and so that's that still matters, and
and so and that we're also going to be providing
our fans, you know, at these two schools a unique
opportunity to plan you know, eight nine, ten months in
advance of you know, kind of a once in all
lifetime trip opportunity. So for for those reasons and others,
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we're excited about the prospects of continued international football.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
All right, last thing, we'll let you go Conference championship
game Saturday. It's always a good time, expecting a good crowd.
There's going to be a lot going on. What do
you want folks to know about the weekend coming up?
Speaker 5 (32:19):
Well, I heard you talking before I came on. The
most important thing to clarify is Rick Ross live and
in person, Beard and Park Ast Saturday Saturday. Okay, one hour,
full length show Rick Ross, and then you can head
down to the bank for kickoff at shortly after eight
o'clock and have a great time in uptown Charlotte taking
in some high quality ACC football.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Love it.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Hey, I've really come to enjoy these conversations. Thank you
for making the time. Have a great weekend you too.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
Michael Strickland, the Senior Associate Commissioner for Atlantic Coast Conference
Football with us here on a Wednesday afternoon. A lot
of texts coming in throughout the course of this conversation.
We're going to get to these people calling him a politician. Guys,
he's an ACC football executive. Did you did you expect
him to be Pat McAfee like this kind of sounds
like a football politician. He's an ACC executive. He's here
(33:08):
to advocate on behalf of and for the Atlantic Coast Conference.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
And I think he's right about Miami.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Like yesterday, I think just revealed what they're gonna do
is they're gonna have Miami put ahead of Notre Dame,
which they should have done. And unless Alabama completely gets
blown out, I don't think that's gonna happen. Uh, Notre
Dame is gonna be the odd team out by the
end of this. That is, if Virginia wins. If Duke wins,
that opens.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Then all hell breaks, like, yeah, I should clarify if
Virginia wins.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Yeah in Virginia, Yeah, absolutely, all right. Rick Cross on
Saturday at five forty five. I was originally told it
was Friday, but I'm glad he clarified that. So it's Saturday,
five forty five Romire Bearden Park, a one hour full
length Rick Ross show before the ACC Championship game. He likes, stop,
let's go to smoke on the headlines.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Hello, ra Hoover, I never mit it. Stop.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
All right, Well, speaking of the ACC, do you need
to mention some contract extensions that got announced within the
last twenty four hours. First off, right after the show
ended yesterday, Jake Dickert and Wake Forest came to an
agreement on a quote unquote long term deal. Don't know
how long that deal is, but you know, usually I
don't like giving a coach a long term extension after
year but one. But when you win eight games at
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wake Forest in your first year when no one had
any expectations, I think that's a spark business move.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
And Brent Key at Georgia.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Tech, his contract's been extended to twenty thirty. And within
the last two hours we saw that Jeff Brohm announced
to Louisville he is not leaving, so cross him off
the list for potentially going to Penn State.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
And I'm not leaving. Sorry, thank you very much, Jordan Belford.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Now we go over to an interesting situation and a
coaching situation that makes me feel old because earlier today
Chris Kleiman, the head coach at Kansas State former head
coach at North Dakota State, that he is retiring this
week and the most likely candidate to replace him in
the Little Apple is current Texas A and M offensive
(35:09):
coordinator in former Kansas State quarterback himself, Colin Klink Colin Klin.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
Maybe I hated watching him play quarterback, just but good
for him.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
It's funny when you go back and watch Johnny Manziel
winning to Heisman, people forget outside of Manti Tao, who
the other guy was. The other guy was Colin Kline
at Kansas State and the little Apple.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Did you.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
I don't know, man, I'm probably being too mean, but
I never felt like, did you think Colin Klein was
all he was cracked up to be in college?
Speaker 2 (35:40):
In college?
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Yeah, I thought he was a pretty damn I never
viewed him as an NFL quarterback.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
I mean, his best season, he threw for fifteen touchdowns
and seven interceptions. I also viewed that in the system
that he was in with Bill Snyder, he also ran
for twenty two touchdowns that same year. Yeah, I'm being honest,
so like he I'm probably being a little hard on.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Him, but I think you are. Let's say I am.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
That was the year prior to Dan Patrick's infamous logan
Thomas and Thomas next Cam Newton, you have your logan
Thomas getting tinted glasses on. Well, that's what it is. Well,
I don't know about all that.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
But I do remember Dan dan Patrick really trying to
sell us hard on on Logan Thomas as the next
Cam Newton, and it wasn't that long after he was
converted to tight end.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
But yeah, Colin Klin's likely going to be the next
head coach at Kansas State.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Kyle.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
When he coaches his first game, he'll be thirty six
years old. Wow, I think the thing. Just a couple
six seven years ago, Bill Snyder's old behind was coaching
in the Little Apple and now we're about to have
a guy who's.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Not even forty. That's incredible. Wow, that's incredible. All right,
we'll come back. We'll tell you who bought out Roman
Harper in seventeen minutes stick Around Sports Radio ninety two
to seven wfn Z.
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Boozer balled out last night, twenty nine points in thirty
six minutes, six rebounds, and two assists. One of those
two assists was the game winning assists to Isaiah Slim
Evans with twenty seconds left to go in the game.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Duke took a sixty seven sixty six lead over Florida
and didn't look back at all. By the way, they
scored six seven points. Sorry, I really hate you for that.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
I'm gonna go with Henry Vasar Carolina double double last night,
seventeen and ten, hit eight of his twelve shots from
the floor. Carolina didn't play its prettiest game by a
country mile, but they got a big win at Rupp Arena.
There first in that building since December first, two thousand
and seven, and it's a massive win for Carolina.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
They played hard.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
Derek Dixon, the freshman, didn't have a great start to
the game, but hit the final two field goals of
the night, a big three and then a layup to
go ahead, and Carolina beat Kentucky sixth or in Roperena
I'm sorry what you got over the why are you
looking at?
Speaker 2 (38:39):
Scored that game? I don't want to say. I don't
want to I don't want to say what it was?
Six seven the sixty four? All right? Is there any
way to stop this?
Speaker 5 (38:48):
Can we?
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Like, how do we stay?
Speaker 3 (38:49):
Because it has to have jumped the shark at this point, right,
It's kind of like when Hillary Clinton did the dab
you knew it was dead then.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
I was like, which one did? Which trend did you
talk about?
Speaker 3 (38:58):
Now we've like, are so far past the rubicon with
this thing. Like I hear old people regularly now who
hear six seven and react to it, mostly negative reactions,
and they have no idea. My we were talking about
family yesterday. I've gotten an on her name or she's
from Texas's. She's an art teacher and when I saw her,
(39:18):
one of the first things she told me was that
she's got a group of teenage boys in every single
one of her art classes that just yelled six seven
for the entire period. And she's like asking me.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
What it means, and so it's just it's not it
probably officially jumped to shark one hunter year check did it?
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Yeah, Yeah, where's my bike?
Speaker 3 (39:37):
Just said your main audience finds it annoying and you
should stop doing Listen, I'm with you on that. You know,
smoke's being you know, funny over there. But holy crap,
this six to seven thing is out of control.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
I thought it was. They should have been dead weeks
ago at least.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
Just think if your kids getting older, you're not going
to be the first two of these trends, and it's
going to be the end of you.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
I mean, I guess that's true. At some point. I
will be on the cutting edge again for a little while. Yeah,
but you know, if this is what I'm gonna be
on the cutting edge of, I don't really think I'm
that interested.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
But then again, now I see why my parents were
annoying me when I was a middle schooler with all
these trends, because it's fun just to annoy them.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
All right, seven oh four or five, seven ninety six
ten hit us up a lot of good texts coming in.
I had a few people tell me that I was
too hard on Colin Klein in the previous segment, who
is now reportedly set to take the head coaching job
at Kansas State, his alma mater, he's only thirty six
years old. Yeah, I mean I kind of thought of
him like a poor man's Tim Tebow. But then somebody
else earlier said, KB, I'm surprised you didn't like him more.
(40:34):
He was kind of the og Haines King, And I
was like, you know what that's actually when you put
it that way, Yeah, kinda.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
Well, because Colin Kleine not his senior year when he
was getting up for the Heisman race, but year prior
he did have eleven hundred yards rushing, which it's really good.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
End of the year he's.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
Contending for Heisman, he had nine hundred yards rushing and
when you look at the roster, weren't really guys defro
to do you only that really made a dent in
the NFL was Tyler Locket. But I think Tyler Lockett
was like a freshman or sophomore at that point, so
you know, it was one of those where it's like
he wasn't ready. So yeah, I just Colin Kline was
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one of those underrated guys. And it's funny. Right after
Colin Kline left Kansas State, that's when it felt like
the Big twelve became an all offense no defensive conference
on the football field like after because after that was
when Gino Smith had that historic start and the first
month of the year before he cooled off, and then
after that that's when Oklahoma really turned it up on offense,
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when he had Landry Jones and Blake Bell speaking of
the guy that was kind of like a poor man's
ten tebow, Blake Bell at Oklahoma. So it's just kind
of weird how we kind of look at the lexicon.
We think it's been like that for longer, but just
thirteen years ago, Big twelve was still kind of a
defensive conference, and then at the drop of a hat
or snap of a finger, it turned into an offensive conference.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
All right, hold on, we got a pop culture question
that needs to be acknowledged here. All right, I'm sorry
to go back to this for a second, because this
is the fun stuff. Where's my bike? On the text
line just said he was the guy that says, our
main audience finds the six to seventh thing annoying and
we should stop doing it. Then he says, and listen,
if you got kids in the car, I understand, I'm
going to enunciate. I'm not going to violate any FCC rules.
(42:16):
But this might you know, if you've never heard it,
or if you haven't heard it in a while. I'm
just going to say it, he says, Now the same
token your main demographic would also appreciate it if you
said needed TP for your bunghole. So you got that.
You're not a Beavis and Butthead guy? Are you? You
are not old enough to have watched Beavis and Butthead.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
No, that was when my parents were in college. But
isn't that kind of what Lyndon B. Johnson said on
one of his phone calls.
Speaker 3 (42:39):
I don't remember that. I have no knowledge of that
because it was one of the White House like and
I think, hold on, I don't want to get too
way late on this because the other text that ties
into this juice box says, KB, you and I are
the same age. What was our word growing up? That
would be today's six seven? See, this is where I
need the help of the other you know, millennials out there.
(43:00):
There might be some genet but like I'm thinking, you
know for me early two thousands, late nineties, early two thousands,
what do you what was that you just did?
Speaker 2 (43:11):
Or is that a little bit a little older than you?
Speaker 1 (43:13):
Because I'm trying to think what years would you think,
would you consider you?
Speaker 3 (43:16):
I think Snoop Dogg had everybody saying fo shizzle way
too often, and the the early two.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
Thousands, yeah, okay, that's that's fair.
Speaker 3 (43:23):
I think Little John had people yelling crunk every other word.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
That and you would say, well that that and the
word what was definitely big when you were in high
school because you had Little John saying in almost every
single song.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
And that's when Stone called Steve Austin started saying what what?
Speaker 3 (43:39):
Yeah what? We Look at the text line. Look how
many people are saying, suck it from DX. Look at
the text line? Look at that. Everybody say, somebody said
the besnies, what are you talking about? Look how many
people on the text line are you saying suck it
from the DX? From WWF one after the other. I
would not have listen. I was in the mix for that,
There's no doubt about it.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
You were a little behind because that was ninety seven,
ninety eight, ninety nine.
Speaker 3 (44:03):
But I still I'm gonna say, like ninety seven, so
I was twelve and ninety seven, so I was I'll.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
Say like DX start because d X started in August
of nineteen ninety se.
Speaker 3 (44:10):
So I'm gonna say ninety seven to four, right like
for me my tweens to teen years, all right, late teens.
What was our equivalent of six seven back then?
Speaker 5 (44:21):
All right?
Speaker 3 (44:22):
Seven oh four five seven O ninety six ten. D
Hancock said, dse nuts.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
I don't I don't know.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
The exact techno was honestly timeless. It is timeless, just
like that's what she said. That's true.
Speaker 3 (44:32):
I got fat with a pH that came in a
minute ago from morning dumped up. That's a good one.
That's a really good one. Uh oh yeah. Doctor Love
said you couldn't say who for a few years without
getting hit with Oh. I thought he was gonna say
Mike Jones, but then he said, DS these nuts.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
That's what he said. All right, we gotta go.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
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the end of the Charles Lee conversation, we had wait
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a minute. Oh Herman's photography said, KB, you asked that
question in the most professional way.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Imaginable, great work.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Others you know appreciative of the question about the fourth
quarter rotation against Brooklyn Sweet Cheeks, saying thank you for
asking about the lineup. His answer is extremely concerning. He's
willing to lose to prove a point. Is he the
right coach or would he be more suited for college
because that sounds like something a college coach would do.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
I mean, I.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Know that college and the NBA are different. That should
go without having to be said. But isn't it still
basketball and coaching at the end of the day. Again,
I understand that the dynamics are a bit different. I
get it, But like if what Charles Lee just said
when I asked him about having and I think the
rotation now that I'm thinking harder on it was t
Jon Salon, Antonio Reeves, Liam McNeely, Sion James and Colin
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Sexton midway through the fourth quarter in a tight game
where you're looking for your third straight win, and that's
the lineup you have on the floor in the third
quarter in a tight ball game. Didn't make a lot
of sense to me, and so I asked him about it,
and what he essentially said right there was, well, you know,
it's multiple things, but we have certain expect to and
I'm gonna paraphrase a little bit, certainly we have expectations
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about how we play, who we are, what our identity is,
and when we don't do those things, and when we
don't deliver on those things, you know, sometimes the best
thing to do is you're gonna have to come sit
on the bench with me and let somebody else play. Again,
I'm paraphrasing, but that's more or less what he said,
and that listen. I mean that that sounds like honesty
to me, and it sounds like accountability to me. Are
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you not supposed to keep hold these guys accountable? I
realized that some of these Lamello's making two hundred and
five million dollars, I get it, Like Miles, I forget that.
Whatever how much money he's making, it's a lot. Okay,
twenty six I believe something in that range. Sure, I'm mistaken. Sure,
Like I don't know, do you? Does anybody have a
problem with that? If that is in fact what occurred there?
(02:49):
Like Weddington, Matt just said he's tanking. Kevin said, uh,
I don't buy Charles Lee's explanation. Neither does Omit. I'm
guessing their buddies, he says, hashtag we tanking. Somebody else
said the exacting I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
I got.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
If he has expectations, if they're trying to, you know,
continue building this culture con seems to be all about
the culture con? Was the guy a couple of nights
ago giving that lengthy quote to Rod Boone where he said,
it's really disappointing. I can handle winning and losing, but
when we have an identity and where we know who
we're supposed to be and we don't do that and
we don't compete hard enough and we don't play hard enough,
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that's really disappointing. You know, And con made that statement.
Doesn't that line up with what he just said? So
I mean you could say, hey, we're tanking. You know what,
maybe the front office is fine with riding out another
bad season. Maybe they have long term plans. Maybe those
short term plans. By the way, guys can be traded
coming up here in about twelve days in the NBA,
A lot of them. Anyway, Like, maybe the front office
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wants to be in on this really deep draft class.
I can't tell you that they don't. But even within that,
you still need a coach who is developing a culture,
developing expectations how you want to play the way you
do things. And don't you want that guy enforcing those rules?
Don't you want that guy enforcing what it is he
thinks the culture should be. Aren't you better for that?
(04:07):
So I I mean, I don't know what he from
Stanley says, but tanking for who KB?
Speaker 2 (04:11):
What do you mean?
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Have you seen this draft class? Let's go to the store.
We got plenty of options here.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
I mean, this is a I mean, they're probably five
six players in this draft that teams are gonna come
it in a big time way.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
This draft is somehow much deeper than last year's draft class,
and last year's draft class was viewed as a very
good draft.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Yeah, I mean when you say for who they're I
mean we've talked about Boozer and Peterson and Pete and
who am I leaving out here? Caleb Wilson and you
know NIOCLASEB Dallas even he's being you know, projected as
a top eight to ten pick Coe.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Lester Sinton, and I also throw Nate Ament in there
from Tennessee, who was originally committed to Duke. That was
another one right there. Yeah, that's what four or five
guys we just mentioned.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
I mean, Ac just said Greg Popovich would going back
to the whole you know, holding them accountaboy says Greg
Popovich would, Yeah, he did. Pop did a lot of
coaches did. Now, a lot of folks would tell you
that the old school way of coaching, you know, is
tough to get by with in the NBA these days.
It's why Tim's doesn't last as long as he does,
and things like that, blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
But I don't know.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
I'm I I that's the kind of coaching that I like.
That's the kind of coaching that I still think works
in athletics, even.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
At the NBA level.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
So I don't if he's What he's really doing is
holding these guys to account and saying, you don't want
to play the way that I want you to that
we know we have to the way that by the way,
just won us two games back to back against the
ball It'd be one thing if they were in the
midst of an eleven game losing streak and never doing
anything right. But they played a certain way against the
Bulls and the Raptors and back to back days, two
winning teams and beat them. I mean the Raptors outside
(05:51):
of maybe okay, see hottest team in the NBA. They
beat him on Saturday. Oh definitely, I'm playing the right way. Okay,
so he's only lost one game, I know, I know,
I know. I was talking just in terms of win streak.
But you know, I think there's some credence to it,
and you know it's easier to argue that he does
the right thing in that spot because they just showed
you what they could do and what they could be
when they play the right way as opposed to eighteen turnovers,
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twenty seven points off of turnovers, lackadaisical closeouts, giving up
forty percent shooting from deep to a Brooklyn Nets team
that had no business doing that. So I don't have
a problem ever with a coach trying to enforce the culture,
trying to enforce his style of play. You know, it
doesn't bother me. That part doesn't bother me. Seven oh four, five,
(06:32):
seven ninety six to ten. Let's go to Greg on
the phone lines real quick, Greg, what's going on, Bud?
Speaker 4 (06:37):
How you doing?
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Man? Good?
Speaker 4 (06:40):
I want to tell you a story. A blond guy
went to sleep Saturday night during the dup Way Farers game,
and he woke up Sunday afternoon and he had a
(07:01):
miracle took place in while he was sleep. Yeah, he
got his outsite, man, And the headline on reservisis Duke
an AC Championship. Oh to speak, the lost time this rams.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Wow, you had a good weekend.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
I thought that was funny. I didn't.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Just I'm just trying to follow along, that's all.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Hey, Hey, you got to be blind to understand that.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
I thank you, Greg, I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
I'm gonna say, hopefully next time you go to sleep,
you wake up and the Hornets become a very good team.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
That'd be cool. That'd be really cool.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
All right, Speaking of Duke and the ACC and the
title game coming up on Saturday, we got Michael Strickland
coming up in about sixteen minutes. He is the Senior
Associate Commissioner for football. They got called him the s
VP earlier. I think he's the SAC. Actually, I won't
read that acronym. He is the and your Associate commissioner
for Atlantic Coast Conference football. And he joined me at
(08:05):
ACC kickoff in Uptown. Stop laughing. Back in July, and
Michael Strickland is back on the show in about fifteen minutes.
I want to see what he thinks about the way
the committee is talking about and treating the Atlantic Coast
Conference after last night's rankings. So we'll get to him
in fifteen minutes. Right now, we go to smoke with
the best audio in sports.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
What did you say? You what?
Speaker 5 (08:26):
What did you say?
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Wait a minute? Send me right.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
What I mean by that is what.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
You got, Honny.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
You mentioned to college football playoff ranking Reville. Yesterday, as
the playoffs got revealed again, Alabama jumped Notre Dame because
of her gutsy win against five and seven Auburn, despite
Auburn not having a full time head coach. Very odd
to put it that way, but Notre Dame still is
(08:56):
in front of both BYU and Miami, and yesterday Hunter
yr Check was asked on the show whether or not
teams that don't play this weekend could potentially jump other
teams into rankings by next Sunday.
Speaker 6 (09:10):
The management committee during the offseason provided some clarification to
some comments that were made last year, and indeed, idle
teams can move following the results of the championship games
and how they impact the teams that are around those
that play in the championship game and data such as
strength of scheduled teams that may be idle. So yes,
teams that are idle can move up or down. So
(09:31):
we're not set with Miami definitively being behind Notre Dame.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
No matter. What is that fair to say?
Speaker 6 (09:39):
Rees following the championship games, we will re rank the
top twenty five teams and we'll see where they fall.
I'm going to take that as the Canes still have
a chance.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Why did he have to Why did he have to
read between the lines there? Why did he have I'm
going to take that. Just say it if you mean it,
just say it. This has put me in, as we've
talked about, precarious situation because I the last team I
root for is the Miami Hurricanes. They're not my least
favorite team, but I supports hate the Hurricanes, but they
have my full support in all of this.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
They have my full full support. And as a Notre
Dame fan, look, I get it, fair's fair.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
If Miami gets in over Notre Dame, I'm I'm gonna
it sucks, especially after they were twiddling their thumbs this
whole time by having Notre Dame ahead of Miami. But
I'll get it, and it just makes it makes me
mad that he just didn't do this from the get go,
in my opinion, like, just do the right thing for
the get go and then I'll be a lot happier
and cheerful. My problem is the fact that they already
put Alabama ndstate and see they're good. They're going to
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no matter what unless they get blown out, which a
highly doubt's gonna happen there in it's.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
A built in mulligan for the season essentially.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Yeah, And essentially what they're doing right now is they're saying, see,
you have to pay attention to all these shows.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
We now put Miami ahead of Notre Dame. Oh you
doubted us. Oh that's what it kind of feels like.
It's like this is not supposed to be for show.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
And that's why I'm content next year, no matter what happened,
if we just get back to the damn computer telling us,
I'd rather be tell I'm getting screwed by a computer
to being told I'm getting screwed by a bunch of
politicians that are masquerading as athletic directors in playoff committee members.
Well as it relates to Miami too, I thought David Hale,
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who was just on the show, I think what two
weeks ago, did a great job laying this out, and
he points out that both BYU and Miami have been
victims of as he put it, quote utterly disingenuous evaluation
end quote by the committee, and he said, for Miami,
the logic is obvious.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
The Canes beat Notre Dame head to head. But let's
keep going. Miami's two losses SMU and Louisville would rank
as the fourth and fifth toughest games on Notre Dame's
schedule had the Irish played them instead. Notre Dame has
cruised through and essentially listless slate. Six of Notre Dame's
ten wins came against teams that beat zero or one
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other power for opponent. Stanford is Notre Dame's fourth best
win by record Stanford. So yeah, Notre Dame played well
enough in losses to two very good teams, but one
of those teams has the same record and is somehow
ranked lower. Even if this is strictly about the quote
unquote eye test, there's little argument for ignoring the head
to head outcome. Notre dame strength of record is thirteenth,
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Miami's is fourteenth. Notre Dame's game control is fifth, Miami's
is sixth. If all else is the same, how is
head to head not the deciding factor?
Speaker 5 (12:24):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (12:24):
But it is for Texas and Vandy. Now this week
by the way, Yeah, now head to head matters.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
You know.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
At Texas, by the way, big win over the number
three team of the country.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
They moved up what thirteen Texas A and m so,
So what.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Matters more good good wins or not having bad losses
and win exactly?
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Does head to head matter?
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Because it matters for Texas and Vanderbilt last night, but
it apparently still doesn't matter for Miami and Notre Dame.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
I think bad losses hurt these teams more because we
saw it hurt in Alabama and it's now hurt Miami
even though Miami didn't lose to bad teams.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
I've grown so exhausted already of this Converse station like you.
And it's only because I love having a twelve team field.
I would love a sixteen team field more. What I
hate is just the making it up as they go
along each and every week, because that is one hundred
percent what they're doing. They are just making it up
as they go along, and they trot out officials and
they try to use, you know, very confounding circular logic
(13:19):
to you know, make you forget what you were talking
about or thinking about, to not focus on the fact
that they're just making it up and applying certain rules
to certain teams but not to other teams. That's what
they're doing every single week.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Yeah, they did a Nascar method. It's crazy. What else
you got? All right?
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Keeping things in college football, but to a team that
is not in the playoff hunt at all, even though
they expected to be in the playoff hunt. We go
to South Carolina where there are seasons officially over, and
this happened on Saturday. But we've been busy with a
lot of other stuff. Shane Beemer sounded very confident after
the game after they lost to Clemson that things will
be back to what it was in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 7 (13:55):
They hate it for the seniors that don't come back,
but I can one billion percent and promise you this
when we have a hell of a season in twenty
twenty six, and when I'm doing this press conference after
the Clemson game next year and we finished the regular
season that because of the success that we're going to
have next season.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
I know we will. We're going to look back at.
Speaker 7 (14:16):
This season and say it sucked winning going through it,
but because of what we went through in twenty five,
it led us to what we just did in twenty
six A million percent.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Confident in that.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Well, I mean, he has nothing to lose by saying that.
First of all, I think he believes it. In his
heart of hearts, I guarantee you he believes it. He's
hell bent and determined to get that program turned around.
He's going back next year and if he doesn't turn
it around, they're going to fire him.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Yeah, he's the coach's now the main coach on the
hot seat, and yees.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
So, I mean people have been making a big deal
out of what he said right there, and I don't
know why, because we all we're all grown ups. He's
either going to do exactly what he just said or
he won't, and they're going to fire him and pay
him to go away.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
And that's that.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
And we won't really be talking to the promise that
he made a year ago to turn things around, because
every coach more or less says stuff like this.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Now, it's going to be difficult.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
I think like retaining Lenora's sellers is a big piece
of the puzzle.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
And did you hear his answer when he was asked about.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Play it for the people, play the Lenora Sellers for
the answer or the answer when he was asked about
you know, next year in twenty twenty six. He's a
South Carolina homegrown product, but he's going to have a
lot of attention here.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
It is, Lenora, are you staying at South Carolina next year?
Speaker 8 (15:28):
I mean straight too, yeah, I mean when the scison's
going to make a decision, When Tom calls me concisions,
I make a decision whatever's best for me, Okay, So.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
You know it's business. At the end of the day.
You got to retain him, though. I mean that's the thing,
is that, like, Shane's got to get more help in there.
But now people are looking at the program a little
bit differently than they were a year ago.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Oh my gosh, coach Bimber, I just got a call
from the three ZHO.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Five, right, you know, oh, coach Christobaul's calling. But in
all seriousness, now, all of a sudden, you start to
look at Shane and his staff, like, is that a
lame duck staff? Is that where I want to go
to spend a year only to get fired. That's how
college football works. I mean it's I'm not I think
we all get it. So it's doable, but you got
to keep Lenoris, I've told you the ECU offensive coordinator
(16:18):
whose name is escaping David Baker. Hey, I want to
call him Booty. I'd pursue him. You got to go
get an offensive coordinator that can bring the best out
in your quarterback. You gotta fix your offensive line. So
I mean, I think Shane believes what he says, but
it doesn't matter. He either does it or he doesn't.
What else you got?
Speaker 2 (16:33):
All Right?
Speaker 1 (16:34):
We end on a fun one here because I can't
I can't believe it. But it's been twenty six years
since Any Given Sunday was released in theaters, and that
was a big movie in the late nineties and early
two thousands with Jamie Fox, Randy Quaid out Pacino.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
I can't do an al Pacino, Cameron Diaz, you get it.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
But Bill Bellamy was also on that movie, Kyle, and
he actually revealed a funny story, a legendary story regarding
one of the coaches on that team in Jim Brown
on the seven PM in Brooklyn and how one extra
kept it a little too real and it all went wrong.
Speaker 9 (17:09):
The younger dude don't know Jim Brown. I'm talking Florida Board,
Liberty City. Hey, man tall, little o G may get
the phone, bro, and everybody like, man, chill out, chill out.
That's Jim Brown't get that James Brown. But I don't
know even like that. Bro White keep walking around here
talking sleep. I say, oh man, that's Jim Brown.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Man, O G.
Speaker 9 (17:28):
Hall of Fame. Man about all that. Man, I'm gonna
get off the chain on that. He coming over here, right,
so one day I never forget. It is so funny, right,
I wish I could remember the dude named nobody even
talking to him. He woke up, oh yo, and my
dad run through all you look and now y'all can
do with this.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
He's man, who is you?
Speaker 9 (17:44):
O Gber That that's how they talk.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Old teeth in his mouth. He said, what you say
to me, young man?
Speaker 9 (17:50):
Now imagine he got a coofy on he gotta cut
off and some flip flops because he got bad. He said,
what you say said out? You heard me, young boy?
He picked you Jim Brown up in the body, slam
Jim Brown on the ground. He said, man, this dude
got bum rushed off that football field so fast. We
(18:12):
never saw him beget Jim let him talk. Funny part
was Jim Brown was looking for It's cool because he was.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
We might so.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Some random extra just like body slam Jim Brown on
the set.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Because he found us some old man just talking crap.
Oh that's brutal, not like.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Top two greatest running back of all time. Bill didn't
have to go tell that's like, I'm glad he did.
But Bill didn't have to go tell that story on
Jim Brown.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Damn Jim can't defend himself, all right, Damn Bill that
you did him dirty? All right?
Speaker 3 (18:43):
That's what did you say? The best audio in the
world of sports. When we return Michael Strickland, the senior
Associate Commissioner for Atlantic Coast Conference Football. We caught up
back in July at ACC operation Kickoff. Well the playoffs
nearly here. The penultimate rankings came out last night. The
title game is in Charlotte on Saturday, and we'll talk
a lot of ACC football with Michael Strickland.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Next.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Sports Radio ninety two to seven wfn Z. Sports Radio
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KB and Smoke hanging out with you, having a really
good time. We have Roman Harper back in thirty five minutes.
Two time pro bowler, Super Bowl champion. SEC Network analyst
our buddy Roman Harper joins us every Wednesday at five
o'clock and we'll talk about all things SEC football and
(19:46):
get his thoughts on the Panthers upsetting the Rams at
the Bank earlier this week back on Sunday. So all
that's coming up seven oh four, five, seven ninety six
to ten, hit us up with your thoughts and quick
reminder with the ACC title game in Charlotte in uptown
at the Bank this weekend. Duke head coach Manny Diaz
back on the show tomorrow right now, I think tentatively
(20:07):
scheduled for five o'clock on the show. So Manny Diaz tomorrow,
Duke and in Virginia for an ACC championship smoke what
you got do?
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Also need to mention we got to mention who's playing
a concert at the ACCA.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Ricky Rose.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Yes, the boss, Rick Ross. It's Friday, right, I believe.
So Rick Ross has been in Charlotte a bunch the
last couple of months. He was in our building, like
I want to say three four months ago, and I
was sitting in the office and somebody's like, Hey, did
you go meet Rick Ross?
Speaker 2 (20:34):
I'm like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (20:36):
They were like Rick Ross is in the building and
I'm like stop, like no really, and I missed him.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
So nothing will make me laugh as loud as when
we had Chubby Checker come in here and he literally
had a tour bus and said, Chubby Checker, It's like, wow,
he's really keeping it silent here.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
That's true. That's true. All right.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Well, speaking of celebrities, we got Michael Strickland, the senior
Associate Commissioner of Atlantic Coast Conference Football. He and I
had a great conversation in uptown back during AC see
kickoff at the start of the college football season, and
now that we are nearing the end, Michael Strickland is
kind enough to jump back on here in the week
of the ACC championship game.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Michael, it's good to have you back, my man. How
you been alb has been doing well.
Speaker 5 (21:12):
We've made it through the grind of the regular season
and now the postseason is upon us.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Oh yeah, no, I'm excited about it. We got Manny
Diaz on the show to talk about it. Duke Virginia
and listen, I guess I'll just dive right in. There's
been a lot of talk this week between myself and
some of the folks at the ACC Network and other
folks that cover college football about the fact that, you know,
Duke won a five way tiebreaker for that final spot
based on combined winning percentage of conference opponents and things
like that. You know, I'm sure you can't tell me
(21:38):
everything that's being discussed internally, but what are your thoughts
on the way Duke got in. Does the conference maybe,
you know, look to address that this offseason.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Is that an issue in your mind, Well, there's I think.
Speaker 5 (21:49):
We'll take a look at it in the off season
and our and our winter meetings, in our spring meetings
with both our athletic directors and head football coaches, that's
the group that has evaluated that annually for many years.
We made this change from you'll remember, Kyle, we eliminated divisions,
first conference in America to do so in twenty twenty three,
to to consolidate down in the kind of one division,
if you will, and then we expanded further thereafter. So
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these tiebreakers date back to our spring meetings of twenty
twenty three. We anticipated a number of different scenarios and
certainly multi team ties with like we saw here we're
part of our consideration set. I think a key philosophy
philosophical point rather that you'll have to talk about and
we'll have to talk about, is our conference games the
(22:32):
only games you evaluate to determine who plays you for
your title or do you start to consider, you know,
non conference games and whether those factor into tiebreakers or not.
But as you know, not all non conference schedules are
created equally either. So it's just a it's a complicated subject,
but we'll dive into it and same No.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
I hear you, and I appreciate the answer, and I
will say, you know, as a talking head by trade,
you know, those of us in the college football universe,
we do have I'll call it a bad habit sometimes
of complaining about college football's rules and wanting change, and
then sometimes we get that change, and a couple of
years later we're already lamenting that change. And like you
just mentioned a second ago, scrapping divisions back in twenty
twenty three, You know, I was excited about it then,
(23:12):
but now I hear a lot of people, especially given
what's going on with the playoff Committee, rankings and everything else,
lamenting the fact that these conferences have gotten too big.
What do you think about the latest complaint?
Speaker 5 (23:23):
Well, it is interesting. You hear a lot of complaints,
but oftentimes the complaints that we hear or see or
read don't offer many solutions to replace the current situation.
So if someone can explain to me the math of
how at a seventeen team league we can divide into
two divisions and play an equal and equitable schedule, I'd
love to see that.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Yeah, it's a good answer. No, I appreciate the answer.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
What just like, we're sitting here, you know, today, talking
about the rankings last night, and you've got a conference
game in Virginia and Duke, where, if we're all being honest,
it's kind of a worst case scenario. Maybe you disagree,
but it's kind of a worst case scenario for the
acc that Duke wins, and the possibility of the conference
not getting the automatic berth for the conference champion being
ranked highly enough. And you know, then there's Miami and
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Notre Dame and what seems to be the ignoring of
a head to head data point, like, what's your opinion
on how the committee is treating your conference in the
last couple of weeks.
Speaker 5 (24:15):
Well, two different pieces there we'll start. We'll start first
with Miami, and Miami is right there on the precipice
of being in this playoff. We need, we need to
result candidly out of the Big twelve championship game. I
think most people expect Texas Tech a great football team,
BYU go football team as well, but Texas Tech takes
care of business. That'll put Miami over BYU and the
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final ranking, and that puts some adjacent to some people
that they've got some commonality with for a number of reasons.
So we're very confident, quite frankly that on Sunday, as
the selection committee chair Hunter Yurchik mentioned and confirmed in
his press conference Tuesday night, idle teams can move, and
teams that play and lose and championship games can be
held accountable for their performance. Really good that Miami is
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going to be in the field of twelve come Sunday afternoon.
As relates to Duke winning the championship game, They've got
a tough opponent in Virginia. We're looking forward to a
really high scoring game. You got a top twenty team
in Virginia ACC Coach of the Year and Antony Elliott.
You've actually talked about Manny a guest of yours oftentimes
two dynamic quarterbacks. We're gonna have a lot of points,
(25:22):
a lot of yards. I think we're in for a
really fun game Saturday night at eight fourteen at the Bank.
Virginia wins. Obviously they're in Duke wins. That will be
their tenth Power four game played this season. It would
be their seventh Power four win. It would be their
fifth Power four win on the road. It would be
a Top twenty five win. It would be their fourth
(25:44):
win against a team with an above five hundred record.
Print out James Madison's resume, UNLV's resume, and Boise's resume,
and tell me if any of those boxes are checked.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Now I like that argument, now, I really do any Listen,
I know you mentioned Hunter, you're a check and I
know that you a lot of these guys in the
committee or colleagues of yours, probably friends of yours. So
I'm not asking you to speak ill of anybody, but
I know, as somebody who talks about the sport every day,
some of the inconsistency in the way they seem to
evaluate this team or these teams. It's a parent and
it's frustrating. For instance, you know, head to head between
(26:17):
Notre Dame in Miami doesn't seem to have gotten as
much consideration as I think it should. But then last night,
you know, Texas jumps Vanderbilt in part we're told because
of the head to head result between those two teams.
Do you find it to be a little bit inconsistent
week to week?
Speaker 5 (26:30):
Well, you're right. Hunter is a friend. He got his
start in college athletics working at Wake Forest, so he's
got acc blood in him. The committee has a very
difficult job. The parody in college football today compared to
even six, seven, eight years ago, there's just a lot
more teams that are capable of winning at a high level.
I think when the CFP format started, we probably had
(26:51):
three or four teams that were talented enough to win
the whole thing. And I think most observers would agree
that there's going to be teams that are left out
of this year's playoffs that are capable of winning the
whole thing. So I think we have to keep that
in mind that they've got a very difficult job. You
do make some points about consistency. I think we all
hope for any governing body to be very consistent in
the application of the rules, and so that's often what
(27:14):
we ask for is just be consistent. You know, we
learned the hard way that there's a rule about the
unavailability of key players or coaches back in twenty twenty three,
and then we almost learned the hard way last year
that teams that lose a championship game may fall more
than two or three spots in the rankings. And so
if those were the rules that are going to be
applied against ACC teams, then those should be the same
(27:36):
rules applied against others others this year.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Do you one of the popular arguments that I get
on my fandual text line here on the show is
that maybe we've gotten too far back in the direction
of subjectivity and the eye test and further away from
I don't know, maybe some algorithmic or more empirical data
driven type decision making allah the bcs and the computers
and the indexes and things like that. Do you think
we're still striving for a balance or you know, what's
(28:00):
the right way to go there?
Speaker 5 (28:02):
I think a balance is important. I mean metrics, Metrics
are valuable to We've got great data that determines over
the course of a long period of time what makes
for a successful football team. But at the end of
the day, we've got bright light bulbs on scoreboards that
are our wonderful metric to evaluate and look at how
(28:22):
teams did when they played against one another lined up
face to face, and look at how teams did against
common opponents on the very same field. That's pretty good
metric to look at as well.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Michael Strickland, Senior Associate Commissioner ACC Football, with us here
on the hotline. A couple quick things will let you go.
You and I had a conversation back in July about
the perception of ACC football continuing to grow the brand,
you know, getting better coaches, better players inside the conference,
you know, in the midst of all that's going on
right now, but also just looking ahead to the next
couple of years. James Franklin just got added to the conference.
(28:54):
Bill Belichick's going to come back for year two. We
assume Jake Dickrid's done a great job at Wake Forest.
What do you think about the overall effort and momentum
for this conference to be and become consistently a two
to three team in the playoff. You know, national champion
factor every single year without question.
Speaker 5 (29:11):
We feel really good about our trajectory and where we are.
You've seen a number of schools make a number of
declarative statements. You mentioned Virginia Tech and hiring coach Franklin.
You saw Boston College make a bold announcement earlier this week.
You mentioned some other examples. You see Stanford making a
huge financial investment. So everywhere you look up and down,
the up and down and across the ACC footprint, everyone
(29:33):
is doubling down on an investment and commitment to football success.
So we feel great about where we're headed. It's very
difficult to win football games, as you know, it will
be super competitive both within the ACC and nationally, but
we feel great at about our level of commitment and
our future success.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
I was talking to Ryan McGee a ESPN about this yesterday,
about the perceived SEC bias, Like, you know, that's a thing,
no matter what your stance on it is, you know
the frame, it's a thing that people talk about. ESPN
is your partner. You guys do a good job at
the ACC network. Is there ever, Like what's the extent
of the conversation inside the building, Like would you hear
people talk about an SEC bias. As an ACC committed
(30:12):
or ACC executive who also works with ESPN, what's your
response to that.
Speaker 5 (30:18):
Well, I think at the end of the day, we
need to line up on the field against our opponents
and score more points than they do. And that's the
way to resolve all issues in sports. And so our
job is to be to be the best we can be,
feeld the best possible teams that are the best coach
and perform under the bright lights and the pressure and
the scrutiny and win ball games. And that'll solve that'll
(30:39):
solve everything else.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
All Right, This is a question I've been dying to
ask you all day. Virginia NC State in Brazil next year.
I love college football. I love Brazil. Really, I think
it's an awesome place. We've seen the NFL do this
for years. Why why take Virginia and NC State to
South America? How does that benefit the sport? How does
that benefit the Atlantic Coast Conference.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
We're really excited about our increased involvement international games. You know,
we've played in the game in Ireland for several several
years in the past. We've got a number of games
on the books with them in the future, including North
Carolina TCU this coming year. Virginia n C State were
approached with a unique opportunity. Uh, I think the group,
the Group of Brazil, which will be here with a
Saturday night here in Charlotte, and we're hosting them and
(31:22):
excited to have them. There may be there may be
more games that they're able to bring, you know, a
SEC teams down. Therefore, certainly financially it's very there's some
lucrative opportunities. The unique, the unique and exclusive exposure playing
in week zero from a national television perspective, and then
the unique educational experience for our student athletes to be
able to experience a culture that that that they in
(31:43):
a country that they wouldn't otherwise have caused to travel to.
We're still in the education business and the experience business
in college football, and so that's that still matters, and
and so and that we're also going to be providing
our fans, you know, at these two schools a unique
opportunity to plan you know, eight nine, ten months in
advance of you know, kind of a once in all
lifetime trip opportunity. So for for those reasons and others,
(32:05):
we're excited about the prospects of continued international football.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
All right, last thing, we'll let you go Conference championship
game Saturday. It's always a good time, expecting a good crowd.
There's going to be a lot going on. What do
you want folks to know about the weekend coming up?
Speaker 5 (32:19):
Well, I heard you talking before I came on. The
most important thing to clarify is Rick Ross live and
in person, Beard and Park Ast Saturday Saturday. Okay, one hour,
full length show Rick Ross, and then you can head
down to the bank for kickoff at shortly after eight
o'clock and have a great time in uptown Charlotte taking
in some high quality ACC football.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Love it.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Hey, I've really come to enjoy these conversations. Thank you
for making the time. Have a great weekend you too.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
Michael Strickland, the Senior Associate Commissioner for Atlantic Coast Conference
Football with us here on a Wednesday afternoon. A lot
of texts coming in throughout the course of this conversation.
We're going to get to these people calling him a politician. Guys,
he's an ACC football executive. Did you did you expect
him to be Pat McAfee like this kind of sounds
like a football politician. He's an ACC executive. He's here
(33:08):
to advocate on behalf of and for the Atlantic Coast Conference.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
And I think he's right about Miami.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Like yesterday, I think just revealed what they're gonna do
is they're gonna have Miami put ahead of Notre Dame,
which they should have done. And unless Alabama completely gets
blown out, I don't think that's gonna happen. Uh, Notre
Dame is gonna be the odd team out by the
end of this. That is, if Virginia wins. If Duke wins,
that opens.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Then all hell breaks, like, yeah, I should clarify if
Virginia wins.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Yeah in Virginia, Yeah, absolutely, all right. Rick Cross on
Saturday at five forty five. I was originally told it
was Friday, but I'm glad he clarified that. So it's Saturday,
five forty five Romire Bearden Park, a one hour full
length Rick Ross show before the ACC Championship game. He likes, stop,
let's go to smoke on the headlines.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Hello, ra Hoover, I never mit it. Stop.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
All right, Well, speaking of the ACC, do you need
to mention some contract extensions that got announced within the
last twenty four hours. First off, right after the show
ended yesterday, Jake Dickert and Wake Forest came to an
agreement on a quote unquote long term deal. Don't know
how long that deal is, but you know, usually I
don't like giving a coach a long term extension after
year but one. But when you win eight games at
(34:24):
wake Forest in your first year when no one had
any expectations, I think that's a spark business move.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
And Brent Key at Georgia.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Tech, his contract's been extended to twenty thirty. And within
the last two hours we saw that Jeff Brohm announced
to Louisville he is not leaving, so cross him off
the list for potentially going to Penn State.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
And I'm not leaving. Sorry, thank you very much, Jordan Belford.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Now we go over to an interesting situation and a
coaching situation that makes me feel old because earlier today
Chris Kleiman, the head coach at Kansas State former head
coach at North Dakota State, that he is retiring this
week and the most likely candidate to replace him in
the Little Apple is current Texas A and M offensive
(35:09):
coordinator in former Kansas State quarterback himself, Colin Klink Colin Klin.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
Maybe I hated watching him play quarterback, just but good
for him.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
It's funny when you go back and watch Johnny Manziel
winning to Heisman, people forget outside of Manti Tao, who
the other guy was. The other guy was Colin Kline
at Kansas State and the little Apple.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Did you.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
I don't know, man, I'm probably being too mean, but
I never felt like, did you think Colin Klein was
all he was cracked up to be in college?
Speaker 2 (35:40):
In college?
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Yeah, I thought he was a pretty damn I never
viewed him as an NFL quarterback.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
I mean, his best season, he threw for fifteen touchdowns
and seven interceptions. I also viewed that in the system
that he was in with Bill Snyder, he also ran
for twenty two touchdowns that same year. Yeah, I'm being honest,
so like he I'm probably being a little hard on.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Him, but I think you are. Let's say I am.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
That was the year prior to Dan Patrick's infamous logan
Thomas and Thomas next Cam Newton, you have your logan
Thomas getting tinted glasses on. Well, that's what it is. Well,
I don't know about all that.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
But I do remember Dan dan Patrick really trying to
sell us hard on on Logan Thomas as the next
Cam Newton, and it wasn't that long after he was
converted to tight end.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
But yeah, Colin Klin's likely going to be the next
head coach at Kansas State.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Kyle.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
When he coaches his first game, he'll be thirty six
years old. Wow, I think the thing. Just a couple
six seven years ago, Bill Snyder's old behind was coaching
in the Little Apple and now we're about to have
a guy who's.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Not even forty. That's incredible. Wow, that's incredible. All right,
we'll come back. We'll tell you who bought out Roman
Harper in seventeen minutes stick Around Sports Radio ninety two
to seven wfn Z.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Sey Hello, good protection Charge of the year Zone.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
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He's gonna go coming on the sign.
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Can't say back to rush running into the area. It'll
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What brands for?
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for the people. I gotta go with Booze, Sir Cameron
Boozer balled out last night, twenty nine points in thirty
six minutes, six rebounds, and two assists. One of those
two assists was the game winning assists to Isaiah Slim
Evans with twenty seconds left to go in the game.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Duke took a sixty seven sixty six lead over Florida
and didn't look back at all. By the way, they
scored six seven points. Sorry, I really hate you for that.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
I'm gonna go with Henry Vasar Carolina double double last night,
seventeen and ten, hit eight of his twelve shots from
the floor. Carolina didn't play its prettiest game by a
country mile, but they got a big win at Rupp Arena.
There first in that building since December first, two thousand
and seven, and it's a massive win for Carolina.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
They played hard.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
Derek Dixon, the freshman, didn't have a great start to
the game, but hit the final two field goals of
the night, a big three and then a layup to
go ahead, and Carolina beat Kentucky sixth or in Roperena
I'm sorry what you got over the why are you
looking at?
Speaker 2 (38:39):
Scored that game? I don't want to say. I don't
want to I don't want to say what it was?
Six seven the sixty four? All right? Is there any
way to stop this?
Speaker 5 (38:48):
Can we?
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Like, how do we stay?
Speaker 3 (38:49):
Because it has to have jumped the shark at this point, right,
It's kind of like when Hillary Clinton did the dab
you knew it was dead then.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
I was like, which one did? Which trend did you
talk about?
Speaker 3 (38:58):
Now we've like, are so far past the rubicon with
this thing. Like I hear old people regularly now who
hear six seven and react to it, mostly negative reactions,
and they have no idea. My we were talking about
family yesterday. I've gotten an on her name or she's
from Texas's. She's an art teacher and when I saw her,
(39:18):
one of the first things she told me was that
she's got a group of teenage boys in every single
one of her art classes that just yelled six seven
for the entire period. And she's like asking me.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
What it means, and so it's just it's not it
probably officially jumped to shark one hunter year check did it?
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Yeah, Yeah, where's my bike?
Speaker 3 (39:37):
Just said your main audience finds it annoying and you
should stop doing Listen, I'm with you on that. You know,
smoke's being you know, funny over there. But holy crap,
this six to seven thing is out of control.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
I thought it was. They should have been dead weeks
ago at least.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
Just think if your kids getting older, you're not going
to be the first two of these trends, and it's
going to be the end of you.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
I mean, I guess that's true. At some point. I
will be on the cutting edge again for a little while. Yeah,
but you know, if this is what I'm gonna be
on the cutting edge of, I don't really think I'm
that interested.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
But then again, now I see why my parents were
annoying me when I was a middle schooler with all
these trends, because it's fun just to annoy them.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
All right, seven oh four or five, seven ninety six
ten hit us up a lot of good texts coming in.
I had a few people tell me that I was
too hard on Colin Klein in the previous segment, who
is now reportedly set to take the head coaching job
at Kansas State, his alma mater, he's only thirty six
years old. Yeah, I mean I kind of thought of
him like a poor man's Tim Tebow. But then somebody
else earlier said, KB, I'm surprised you didn't like him more.
(40:34):
He was kind of the og Haines King, And I
was like, you know what that's actually when you put
it that way, Yeah, kinda.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
Well, because Colin Kleine not his senior year when he
was getting up for the Heisman race, but year prior
he did have eleven hundred yards rushing, which it's really good.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
End of the year he's.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
Contending for Heisman, he had nine hundred yards rushing and
when you look at the roster, weren't really guys defro
to do you only that really made a dent in
the NFL was Tyler Locket. But I think Tyler Lockett
was like a freshman or sophomore at that point, so
you know, it was one of those where it's like
he wasn't ready. So yeah, I just Colin Kline was
(41:13):
one of those underrated guys. And it's funny. Right after
Colin Kline left Kansas State, that's when it felt like
the Big twelve became an all offense no defensive conference
on the football field like after because after that was
when Gino Smith had that historic start and the first
month of the year before he cooled off, and then
after that that's when Oklahoma really turned it up on offense,
(41:34):
when he had Landry Jones and Blake Bell speaking of
the guy that was kind of like a poor man's
ten tebow, Blake Bell at Oklahoma. So it's just kind
of weird how we kind of look at the lexicon.
We think it's been like that for longer, but just
thirteen years ago, Big twelve was still kind of a
defensive conference, and then at the drop of a hat
or snap of a finger, it turned into an offensive conference.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
All right, hold on, we got a pop culture question
that needs to be acknowledged here. All right, I'm sorry
to go back to this for a second, because this
is the fun stuff. Where's my bike? On the text
line just said he was the guy that says, our
main audience finds the six to seventh thing annoying and
we should stop doing it. Then he says, and listen,
if you got kids in the car, I understand, I'm
going to enunciate. I'm not going to violate any FCC rules.
(42:16):
But this might you know, if you've never heard it,
or if you haven't heard it in a while. I'm
just going to say it, he says, Now the same
token your main demographic would also appreciate it if you
said needed TP for your bunghole. So you got that.
You're not a Beavis and Butthead guy? Are you? You
are not old enough to have watched Beavis and Butthead.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
No, that was when my parents were in college. But
isn't that kind of what Lyndon B. Johnson said on
one of his phone calls.
Speaker 3 (42:39):
I don't remember that. I have no knowledge of that
because it was one of the White House like and
I think, hold on, I don't want to get too
way late on this because the other text that ties
into this juice box says, KB, you and I are
the same age. What was our word growing up? That
would be today's six seven? See, this is where I
need the help of the other you know, millennials out there.
(43:00):
There might be some genet but like I'm thinking, you
know for me early two thousands, late nineties, early two thousands,
what do you what was that you just did?
Speaker 2 (43:11):
Or is that a little bit a little older than you?
Speaker 1 (43:13):
Because I'm trying to think what years would you think,
would you consider you?
Speaker 3 (43:16):
I think Snoop Dogg had everybody saying fo shizzle way
too often, and the the early two.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
Thousands, yeah, okay, that's that's fair.
Speaker 3 (43:23):
I think Little John had people yelling crunk every other word.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
That and you would say, well that that and the
word what was definitely big when you were in high
school because you had Little John saying in almost every
single song.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
And that's when Stone called Steve Austin started saying what what?
Speaker 3 (43:39):
Yeah what? We Look at the text line. Look how
many people are saying, suck it from DX. Look at
the text line? Look at that. Everybody say, somebody said
the besnies, what are you talking about? Look how many
people on the text line are you saying suck it
from the DX? From WWF one after the other. I
would not have listen. I was in the mix for that,
There's no doubt about it.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
You were a little behind because that was ninety seven,
ninety eight, ninety nine.
Speaker 3 (44:03):
But I still I'm gonna say, like ninety seven, so
I was twelve and ninety seven, so I was I'll.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
Say like DX start because d X started in August
of nineteen ninety se.
Speaker 3 (44:10):
So I'm gonna say ninety seven to four, right like
for me my tweens to teen years, all right, late teens.
What was our equivalent of six seven back then?
Speaker 5 (44:21):
All right?
Speaker 3 (44:22):
Seven oh four five seven O ninety six ten. D
Hancock said, dse nuts.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
I don't I don't know.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
The exact techno was honestly timeless. It is timeless, just
like that's what she said. That's true.
Speaker 3 (44:32):
I got fat with a pH that came in a
minute ago from morning dumped up. That's a good one.
That's a really good one. Uh oh yeah. Doctor Love
said you couldn't say who for a few years without
getting hit with Oh. I thought he was gonna say
Mike Jones, but then he said, DS these nuts.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
That's what he said. All right, we gotta go.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
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