The Kyle Bailey Show H2: Time To Admit Defeat

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
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(00:30):
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I'm hesitant to read this text, but this guy, Man,
there's some history here. Mailman probably shouldn't read it, but

(00:51):
he says, anyway, I remember it being KB and Smoke
doing all the Austin Corbett hyping the past three seasons.
He's never healthy and inconsistent. Y'all supplied the false faith
in him. He should have never been our center, and
Bryce is not the guy for this team now. Mailman
has a bone to pick with me and you. I mean,
he sent me some of the most irrational, insane stuff
that I've ever seen. But you and I did all
the Austin Corbett hyping the last couple of years, the

(01:13):
guy who, statistically, at you know, many points during his
tenure here, has been the highest graded offensive lineman on
this team, a guy who no one expected to do
what he did on Sunday. Everybody was shocked, Like, of
all the things that could have happened, Austin Corbett snapping
the ball here, there, and everywhere, oftentimes eight inches above
the quarterback's head or at his chins was not something
that anybody expected to see on Sunday. So, Smoke, would

(01:35):
you like to apologize for all the Austin Corbett hyping
that we apparently did the last couple of years.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
No, it was one game, you know, wasn't great, And
if he continues to do that, you just go to
Kate May's. But I'd like to point out that the
like the two games he played with Price last year,
no snaps were really a problem.

Speaker 4 (01:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
So no, Yeah, I'm good. If he doesn't work out,
you just go to Kid Maz.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
Yeah, you got a backup center who's proven himself capable,
and if they have to do that, they will. So Mailman,
I apologize for absolutely nothing, especially not to you. All Right,
we have Ryan McGee coming up in twenty minutes again.
Al Wallace, former Panther defensive end, coming up in five
twenty five. Let me sneak in a phone caller too.
Philip is up first in the four o'clock hour. What's up, Philip?

Speaker 4 (02:19):
How are you?

Speaker 5 (02:21):
How you doing? Caw good?

Speaker 4 (02:22):
What's going on?

Speaker 5 (02:24):
Man? I'm gonna tell you something. I looked at that
game Sunday. I fitched it the shock plank. I got
tired of looking at it. That team don't have the
five in their billy. They do nothing. And I'm beginning
the one that do anybody on a Panther staff know
how to evaluate talent? Them? Guys? Man ain't? And what

(02:47):
makes it so bad? Jacksonville didn't do all that much.
But they did just enough to beat up.

Speaker 4 (02:55):
Yeah, they played a cleaner game. That was the thing.
They played a cleaner football game and that mattered.

Speaker 5 (03:01):
Oh, brother, I ain't looking for clin but.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yeah, but Cleano gets your ws in the NFL. I mean,
you take care of the football and don't make catastrophic
mistakes the way the Panthers did on Sunday.

Speaker 4 (03:09):
Cleano gets your win.

Speaker 5 (03:12):
Well, I'll just didn't get up to one.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
Well, Panthers were anything but clean. On Sunday you said
you saw it. It was bad enough.

Speaker 5 (03:20):
Cal I told you John Gruden, what a fixed solid is?

Speaker 4 (03:25):
John Gruden, John Harbaugh, John Gruden.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
Well you're Oh, you're the Phillip Okay, so you're I
laughed at you last week on my wife's birthday post
you that was you, you said, Missus Bailey. Please please
tell Kyle that John Gruden should have been That was you?

Speaker 4 (03:42):
All right? Good to know me, always me always Uh.
Now why do you think John Gruden would fix this?

Speaker 5 (03:51):
The cow John Gruden got that fire.

Speaker 4 (03:54):
He does have that.

Speaker 5 (03:54):
John Gruten got that fire, and Dave can not excive me.
The president. He's an he's a guy. But I'm not
looking for night.

Speaker 6 (04:04):
I want.

Speaker 5 (04:05):
I want some wins. Yeah, you gotta be somebody who
can put that fine in them gays, Billy. But I mean, hey,
I'm beginning to one day, Like I say, can they
evaluate talent?

Speaker 2 (04:15):
But it's a fair question. We don't know yet, we don't, Philip,
Thank you as always, brother. I appreciate the phone call.
For some reason, in my head I thought he was
going Jim Harbaugh, but instead he went John Gruden. And
now I know which Philip. That is Sergeant Smith is
up next. What's going on, sars?

Speaker 4 (04:28):
How you been? Oh good?

Speaker 7 (04:32):
Huh?

Speaker 2 (04:32):
All right, well, Sargean Smith, give us a call back.
Seven oh four five, seven ninety six ten. Hit us
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Speaker 4 (04:41):
What did you say? You what?

Speaker 8 (04:44):
What did you say?

Speaker 1 (04:45):
Hold up?

Speaker 4 (04:46):
Wait a minute?

Speaker 6 (04:47):
Send me right your son?

Speaker 5 (04:49):
What I mean by that is all right?

Speaker 4 (04:52):
What you got?

Speaker 1 (04:53):
All right?

Speaker 3 (04:53):
Well we start here by something that happened before week
two got underway. It was only Pat mci show on Friday.
The Big Ten's riding high right now. They've won two
straight national titles. They've had a lot of good performances.
I mean, Illinois just got that one hundred million dollar
donation from one of their former alumni members and they
just beat Duke. So Nick Saban pointed out something that

(05:13):
apparently the SEC's worried about. The Big Ten might be
the premier conference.

Speaker 9 (05:18):
Now, the SEC was the SEC because of the culture
in the South. There wasn't professional football in the South
for a long time, and everybody related to the colleges. Okay,
we talked about that before. Well, now that doesn't matter.
I mean, kids grew up wanting to go to Elishue,
kids grew up wanting to go to Alabama, kids grew
up wanting to go to Georgia.

Speaker 4 (05:39):
Got the money.

Speaker 9 (05:40):
Now they don't mind going to Ohio State, they don't
mind going to other places. So that geographic advantage that
the Southeast Conference had may be changing a little bit
now with a different culture with name, image and likeness
and money involved in decision making. And I think that's
rated it a little bit of an edge for the

(06:02):
Big Ten.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
People laughed at this, but he's actually right to an extent.
And here's what I mean. Back before you could just
outright pay guys, and they had agents and you had
deals and then you had endorsements and everything else.

Speaker 4 (06:16):
Money was still changing hands.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
We all know that, but it was harder and really
only a handful of the top guys were getting serious
money to go play. Now you've got quarterbacks making millions,
offensive linemen making you know, half a million to a
million or more.

Speaker 4 (06:32):
Sometimes, right, So it used to be that if you
were going.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
To go play football and you weren't really going to
make any money, but you had to, you know, you
had to go toil for a couple of years at
the collegiate level. Well, you'd want to go somewhere where
there was great weather, beautiful women, better food. South has
that advantage, by the way, No no offense to my
Upper Midwest friends, but you know we have better food

(06:56):
and better looking women, and then on top of that,
better weather, and you know there are the SEC is
steeped in tradition. He's right, But now there are players
in the Southeast who, yeah, they want to go play
for Alabama, they want to go play for Georgia, for Florida,
for a lot of these schools, but they don't mind
going to Columbia or Columbus. Pardon me, they don't mind

(07:17):
going to Champagne. They don't mind going to South Bend.
They don't mind going to these when the money's greater. Right,
we all take a lot of us take jobs and
relocate away from where we grew up, where we lived
for the majority of our lives, to go get a
jump start on our careers to make life changing money.
It's no different now, So no one should be crying
for the SEC. If they want to win, they're gonna

(07:37):
have to pony up. But the Big ten and it's alumni.
It's a massive, massive pool of people with a lot
of wealthy donors. And so now some of these big
ten schools you just said, at Illinois just got a
one hundred million dollar donation from one of their richest boosters.
Brett Beelam is going to be a fixture in the
college football playoff if he doesn't screw this up. Ohio
State's got money, Penn State's got money, Michigan's got money. Well,

(08:00):
Michigan State's got a little bit of money too. I mean,
then they struggled over the weekend of Boston College, but
they got away. But there's some truth to what Nick
saying right there. Nobody should feel bad for anybody, but
there is truth to it. He's right, absolutely.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
What else you got, all right, Well, one team that
did learn the hard way about how tough it is
to go against a Big ten right now is Texas.
Steve Starkeshan was speaking to the media, and if you
didn't watch the game against San Jose State, it looked
like at times that arch Manning was wincing when throwing
the ball, and he was asked about that, and uh,
he kept it real, and he kept it real when
it went wrong.

Speaker 4 (08:32):
Arch Manning seemed to be having some throwing pains.

Speaker 7 (08:35):
By the According to who, arch Arch said that to you. No, oh,
according to who, it just looked like he was. He
doesn't have any Is there an explanation to why he
was It looked like that.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
I don't know.

Speaker 7 (08:48):
I've never filed I've never filmed any of you guys
when you're using the bathroom, so I don't know what
faces you make when you're doing that.

Speaker 4 (08:55):
That's weird, right, Like that's a weird response. That's his
go to response.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
I don't even need I shouldn't eve need to ask that,
but I mean, I didn't love the way the question
was phrased.

Speaker 4 (09:04):
And I hate when reporters do this.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
You know, well, people say or people have noticed, or
they're saying or just say, hey, it looked like to
me he was wincing when he was throwing. Is there
any reason to be concerned about his health or his shoulder?
Just ask it that way. Okay, maybe he's.

Speaker 4 (09:20):
A young reporter.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
I don't know, but we have a lot of guys
in this business and gals who are young starting out.

Speaker 4 (09:24):
Mistakes get made.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
But just ask the damn question and stop trying to
couch it and what people say or folks were noticing.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
Just say what you.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
Mean, honestly, and if you say, people will say I
really just need you to say, you know, the haters
out there are saying, yeah it cou'd be honestly better
to just say that.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
People say yeah, right, But then like the sarcasian thing,
no it's not the same.

Speaker 4 (09:45):
It wasn't funny. It was kind of a weird.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
Just say no, he's fine, he's not hurt, or we
haven't noticed anything, or that's the first I'm hearing of it,
or anything other than some weird poop analogy.

Speaker 4 (09:53):
Right, what else you got?

Speaker 3 (09:55):
Speaking of weird, Let's go to UNC and the tar Hills.
As Saturday, Bill bell Chick was asked about not allowing
players or scouts of teams such as the Patriots and
the Denver Broncos be allowed not be allowed at the facility,
and he explained why because the Patriots have not allowed
him at the facility. Well, Mike Vrabel was asked about
this on the Greg Hill Show yesterday, and the awkwardness continues.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Again.

Speaker 8 (10:20):
Nothing surprises me.

Speaker 4 (10:22):
I would imagine.

Speaker 8 (10:23):
That that that Bill, I mean, he came back for uh,
the best of my knowledge, Tom's ceremony, so that I
would I guess he's welcome back based.

Speaker 4 (10:36):
On the fact that he was there, So I'll just
go by that.

Speaker 8 (10:40):
Since his departure as the head coach here, he's been
back and I'll leave it at that.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
I mean, if you're Carolina, you got to be really
happy that this is the distraction this week and not
the girlfriend and not or a loss on primetime, Like
you can live with this, right Bill's being petty. Oh,
it's not the first time that Bill Pettycheck has you know,
reared his head. Bill can be a pretty petty guy.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
What pett He's not that far away from randoman. I mean,
I don't know that it matters this year.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
I'm not sure how many draftable players that he has
on his roster anyway, but moving forward, like, I don't know,
like do people see this as a well Bill shouldn't
do that because he's trying to get his guys drafted.
You know, if you're the thirty third NFL franchise, why
aren't you opening your door. You want to be a
football factory. You want to train these college kids up

(11:31):
and have them ready for the pros. In a way
that other programs simply aren't doing. So it seems wrong
to me to bar the door to any Scouts of
any organization like that. We the Scouts didn't do anything.
Do you like these these area Scouts didn't do anything?
Do you I realize they're an extension of Bob Craft
in the organization, But as as Bravell just pointed out,
you went back for that thing, right, so also, why

(11:51):
do you want to go back like right now? I
don't know how to Carolina fans. Don't give me the reflection, Oh,
this is much ado about nothing. I agree, it's a story,
It's not gonna impact anything, But do you think it's
petty if you had a kid that was choosing between
Carolina and somewhere else, would it be a deterrent for
you that, you know, Bill's letting his beef with his
old organization get in the way of a potential Scout saying,

(12:13):
you know, we want to draft this kid. I don't
know how did Carol lot of fans feel about this
other than gratitude that you know it's a different scandal
that's not his girlfriend and not reacting to an embarrassing
loss in prime time.

Speaker 4 (12:24):
What else you got all right.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
We end with Big Cat, who was on Greg Olsen's
youth Ink podcast, and you revealed something. A brand new
Jim Harball story has hit the presses and it doesn't disappoint.

Speaker 10 (12:36):
My youngest might if we're if we're just doing like
a straight draft of who has the highest potential in
terms of sports. Uh, my youngest I showed. We were
out at Chargers camp last year and Jim Harbaugh like,
we just got talking. And I've known Coach Harbaugh for
a long time. It's been awesome, like becoming like real
friends with him. And he's asking how the kids are doing.

(12:56):
And I showed him a picture of my youngest because
I hadn't seen him in a couple of years. And
my youngest I was born and my youngest was one
years old, and he looked at him a picture of him.
He goes, he's got a great skull for football, and
I was like, dude, he's one.

Speaker 4 (13:10):
What are you talking about?

Speaker 10 (13:12):
So but that was the most like football guy moved by.

Speaker 4 (13:15):
I was gonna asks your kid is he going to
be a football guy? Is he going to be?

Speaker 2 (13:18):
That was gonna be my next question because he's in
with Paul.

Speaker 4 (13:21):
If he's in with Harbaugh, he's got to be a
football guy.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
I can think of no higher compliment than Jim Harbaugh
sizing up your toddler son and looking at you through
those horn rimmed glasses while adjusting his khakis and saying
that young man has a right, proper skull for football.
That's what I'd want Jim Harbaugh to say about my son.

Speaker 4 (13:37):
So is he the Todd McShay of the school skull world?

Speaker 2 (13:40):
I don't know, but I mean right on, Cua, Texter,
before you played that, Matten Greensboro said, this all comes
back to Temper not taking the phone call of Jim Harbaugh,
and Harball would have absolutely had this team playing tough,
and Tepper wouldn't even consider talking to him.

Speaker 4 (13:54):
What a brainless decision that was. Listen.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
I don't know if they would have come to an agreement.
I don't know if they could have co existed. But
you know me, I was all aboard the Jim Harbaugh
train once upon a time. Selfishly, from a media standpoint,
I just wanted to cover Jim Harball.

Speaker 4 (14:07):
Now, you just wish you.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
Would have brought your kids out in the practice so
you could ask.

Speaker 4 (14:09):
About no, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
Now I want to go to a Chargers game, get
a press credential, sneak My Toddler in, and as Jim
Harbaugh is walking out of postgame press conference, hold him
up and say, Jim, what do you think about his skull?
Because I want to know what he thinks now so
I know what to do with his life. That's what
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When we return, we'll talk to Ryan McGhee, ESPN senior writer,
College football, and some NASCAR Sports Radio ninety two to

(14:34):
seven w fn Z. Well, it was a rather tame

(14:56):
Week two in college football, certainly relative to one, but
some great storylines still, some really fun games, and we
got coaches squarely on the hot seat after a couple
of upsets, we got to talk about it all and
Denny Hamlin's win out in Saint Louis with our good
friend and weekly conversation Ryan McGee of ESPN senior writer,
one half of Marty and McGee. We got to talk

(15:17):
about his Lane Kiffin piece as well the documentary. We
got to talk about that. Ryan McGee is back with
us on the hotline for his Tuesday conversation. Ryan I
appreciate brother, I appreciate you. How are you this week?

Speaker 1 (15:29):
I'm good, Yeah, I was just I mean, base just
recorded the tradition for this week's style of game day essay.
And this week three, I feel like it's sneaking up
on us, right, I mean we're we're already. I mean
we're almost three games into this thing. If your Week
zero team are already three games end of the season,
and that's just Toomas flying. But it's been two great weeks,

(15:52):
so let's get it up. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
No, you're making me sad as you say that, because
it sneaks up on us every single year. But hey,
just SEC related to good ways from home. But obviously
it impacts the national picture, and you covered the SEC
quite closely. Billy Napier and the Gators upset this week
by a very good USF team that we've learned that
at this point, but we understand what the expectations are
in Florida. I was a huge Billy Napier fan a

(16:15):
couple of years ago when he got hired there. I
wanted him in Blacksburg, full disclosure, but I did think
he would work out in Florida. Not working out right
now and I believe they faced top sixteen teams in
the rankings each of the next four weeks. How does
this end and why did that happen over the weekend?

Speaker 1 (16:31):
Well, I don't I think the end is inevitable and
I don't think it's I don't think it's right, and honestly,
I don't think it's fair. You know, I think people don't.
They do not understand what a disaster Billy took over that.
You know, my former coworker, Damn Mall left for him.
It was a mess. And last year we'd Marty and

(16:53):
McGee and sec Nation in Gainesville week one in Week
three and they lost both of those, Miami in Texas,
A and M and I. I mean, we had to
go to dinner at that Laryer director's house on a
Friday night, and all those boosters were like, well, if
we lose A and M he'll be out Monday. We'll
have Lane Kevin here by the next week. And and
then what Billy did was he lost that game, but

(17:15):
he ended up having a great season. And I'll say
this too, it was it was disappointing the way they
lost because it was two personal fouls, you know, the
spit gets to the headlines. But it was two personal
fouls on that last drive that kept USF moving.

Speaker 11 (17:30):
But us that's also really good.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
I mean they're two for two now playing top twenty
five teams. Boys State was in the playoff last year,
got to buy and they lost, you know, to USTF,
And now USF could beat Miami this weekend. So it
was a wasn't as bad a loss as it looked like.

Speaker 11 (17:46):
It just was an ugly loss.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
And the problem is Florida's schedule is ridiculous, and so
you're exactly right. I don't I don't know that Billy
can get out of this. I've known Billy is a
quarterback at from it. He's a he's a great being.
He'll be fine whether he stays at Florida or whether
he moves on somewhere else. But it's just tough to
watch because I like him personally.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
Yeah, And you know I mentioned a second ago that
I wanted him in Blacksburg a couple of years ago.
I want to go there for a second because I
know you've been there a lot. We talked about your
relationship with Shane last week. You understand the place I
really was rooting for Brent Priye. I liked the guy
a lot. I wanted it to work out. I think
he's a great human. He recruits pretty well, he gets
the place. I think he badly wants to deliver. But

(18:28):
I mean his record in one score games, trailing going
into the fourth quarter, all of it, and then after
being dismantled in the second half by Vanderbilt a couple
of nights ago. Ryan, I don't take any joy in
saying this, but I'm left with no evidence that Brent
Price is a good head football coach. And I think,
you know, we're on a very loud, ticking clock until
he's removed from his post. What do you think about

(18:48):
what Vanderbilt did to them in the second half on Saturday, Well, I.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
Think Diego Pabas should be on everyone's highs and lift
number one s or you know he's not, And I
think that's ridiculous. I wrote a big a couple of
months ago. I think that Vanderbilt's game against South Carolina
this weekend, you know, it's like a September highing game
because you're talking about normal sellers. He's come to me again.
It's not Yea, I'm.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
Gonna put your hole for just a second, Ry, We're
going to try to get your line cleared up. Ryan McGee, ESPN,
Senior writer with us on the hot line his weekly
Tuesday conversation. We're going to try to get the seale
service cleared up right there, and then get him back
on the phones talking about uh that result Saturday night,
we'll talk about n C States and Carolina here coming
up in just a moment. We'll try him again again,
Ryan McGee, ESPN, Senior Writer with us, Ryan, go ahead

(19:34):
and pick it up where you left off.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
No, I just was saying, I think, I think diego Pobby.
This should be on everyone's highs and short list. And
so to get run over by him is I mean,
he did at the Alabama last year. But I'm with you,
and you sound you know who you sound like. You
sound like Marty Smith because Mary Marty, Marty grew up
in in in you know, Western Virginia grew Yeah.

Speaker 11 (19:56):
Yeah, he's he's a hokey throwing through.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
You know, he talked about it all the time. You
know on our SEC show we had Pride, we had
Brent Prye on Marty McGee just a couple of weeks
ago and I'm with you. I love him, and no
one loves the place more than he does. And I
love the fact that he told us the story about
the desk that he has that's Frank Beemer's desk. And
whenever Coach Biemer comes by to see him, which is

(20:20):
at least once a week, he said, he just gets
up and says, coach you on instead at your desk.
That's how much he loves the place. And he was
there for the glory days. But it's tough, man, because
it's it's it's a program that's struggling, and it was
struggling before he got there. And I think they're still
kind of trying to find their way on a lot
of things. And I think Brent, unfortunately is I'm with you.

(20:42):
It feels like they should be more over the hump
than they are, and everybody up there is getting pretty impatient. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
Ryan McGee with us on the hotline is weekly Tuesday conversation.
What did you make of the way Clemson looked against
Troy on Saturday with a rain to lay in the
middle and all Dabo set after the fact, but also
with this Georgia Tech and presumably a healthy Haines King
coming up this weekend.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
Well, I mean, I guess the question is, you know,
you know, what do we like? What's the grading scale?
Because it's the grading scales that whatever that was that
debo handed us the week before about fifty eighths and
sixties and may Brian Kelly so mad, you know, then
then you know, I guess they get like a twenty five.
But you know, but if the grating scales listen, the
same thing happened in Columbia between the rain and the

(21:29):
delay and all those things that happened to so many
games throughout the Southeast. It was a lethargic feeling game.
And you know South cont did the same thing with
South Krolnta State. It just it was hard to get going.
But that being said, it didn't look very inspired. I
don't think that really affects how Clemson's going to be
ready this weekend. I think that they you know, they

(21:50):
would treated Troy like a bye week, and they should have.
But they need to be careful because I think Georgia
Tech is a wrecking ball team. I don't believe that
they're good enough win the Atlantic Coast Conference, but they
are certainly good enough to ruin it. For a bunch
of other people, And so yeah, I'm with you. I
if the guy, if the man is healthy, then they
were gonna be tough anyway. But I think they're particularly

(22:12):
gonna be tough now because they're kind of feeling themselves
down at Atlanta right now.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
How surprised are you if at all that Joey Aguilar
has gotten off to the start that he's gotten off
to in Tennessee. That kid is quickly becoming a fan
favorite down there.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
You know, I was in the building in Knoxville back
in April, and it was right after all that went
down with the spring game where or you know, Nico
was gone, and you know, they're in the locker room
before the game and coaches, hey, by the way, quarterback's gone.
But talking to the people in the building all summer

(22:46):
long about Aguilar and about him his preparation and about
the way he plays, and let's talking to the guys
at that state. They were all like, listen, if they
let him do his thing, he's going to be great.
And he looks like a guy that's been handed a
ferrari and and the reality is, I like Nico personally.
I think that he learned from what happened every time

(23:06):
I ever had a conversation with him. I liked him
a lot, but at Lark's better than he was. The
reality of Nico was was that when he looked great,
he looked great, but most of the time he looked
pretty pedestrian. And I thought that Tennessee succeeded, you know, honestly,
in spite of Nico a lot of times. Last year
they had the best running back in the country, in
my opinion, and so that's why they they play as

(23:27):
well as they did. So I think it's great. I'm
not surprised based on what the people at that state
told me and what the people in Knoxville were telling me,
but I am surprised that it's happened as quickly as
it has. And he better be on it this weekend
because the Bulldogs are playing angry.

Speaker 11 (23:43):
And uh and they also have won eight in a
row against Tennessee.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
I'm so old when I was in school at Tennessee.
We're in the middle of a nine year winning streak
against or against Georgia, and now Georgia has a chance
to tie what was the what is the longest winning
streak in the history of that series?

Speaker 2 (23:59):
Look at ahead to this weekend a little bit. Alabama Wisconsin.
What does that matchup look like to you? Wisconsin comes
into and oh, I still think Alabama's got the better
players and the better roster.

Speaker 4 (24:09):
But I don't know.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
I don't know what that means going into this week
as Kaylen debor figured some things out or are they
in trouble this weekend.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
I talked to those guys middle of last week and
they were not concerned. Like you know, sounded like coach speak.
And I like Kaylin a lot, but a lot of
times everything he says sounds like coach speak. But I
believed him when he said, listen, that was learning experience.
Our goal now is to never play that lethargic again.

(24:37):
They certainly didn't last weekend. I mean, they weren't playing
against a top opponent. But it's funny because I was
talking Marty about this earlier. Alabama Wisconsin is the non
sexiest sexy game this weekend, you know what I mean?
Like nothing on paper years guy, I mean, it's Wisconsin.
It's kind of the story of Wisconsin football, which is, like,
you know, all they ever do is win nine games

(24:58):
a year and play on New Year's day, but no
one really clamors to watch them, right, And I think
that Alabama has a chance to make a statement if
they take care of what I think is a pretty
good Wisconsin team. Again, I don't know that Wisconsin can
win Big Ten, but I think they can certainly be
in a position to play in the championship game, and
they can be in a position to ruin it for
someone else. And if Alabama beats them in Wisconsin's big

(25:23):
and strong and physical, they're kind of setting the tone
for further SEC schedule.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
What did you make of, speaking of Alabama your college
game Day colleague, Nick Saban, What did you make of
his comments late last week about the SEC losing its
geographic advantage in recruiting because of the NIL and the
Big Ten's ability to outspend that conference. Now for some
of these recruits, your thoughts on that?

Speaker 1 (25:45):
Now, Listen, you look at the rosters of the Ohio
State team that won the national championship and the Michigan
team that won the national championship, and who do you see?
I mean, you see all these guys that weren't just
recruited out of Florida and out of Georgia and out
of Louisiana. They played football at universities in those states

(26:06):
and then transferred. I mean, I you know, I was.
I was on the field during the postgame celebration in
the National Championship Game last year, and there's there's Quinston
Junkins that I hadn't talked to since it was at
Old Myths, and he's a hero of the Nation Championship Game, and.

Speaker 11 (26:20):
So it and you know, he grew up in Atlanta.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
And played at Old Myths and everybody believed he was
gonna be in an All SEC running back. He went
to a highest state as a game, a lot of
money and guess what he got a ring. So I
don't think that sav Saving's usually not wrong and and
I don't think he's wrong about that, And so the
question is how do you counter that? And you know,
I think about Jim Harball taking Michigan on his shirtless,

(26:45):
you know, Carpetbager tour, remember that, where he was doing
all these camps and all the Southern states and all
that stuff. Everybody kind of made fun of it. But
next thing, you know, you take the momentum of that
and add it to nil, and we all kind of
rolled our eyes, like Okay, harball, good luck with this.
Totally worked. So yeah, you got to figure out a
way to a get the money to spend, which they have,

(27:07):
but be the days of Just when I played high
school baseball, our coach once said we were playing the
defending state champions, and he said, we're not just going
to lay down because they throw their jocks on the field,
which is a really crude way of saying. You can't
just show up and be the guy and just expect
everybody to not pay attention. So just showing up and

(27:28):
saying I'm Georgia, I'm Alabama, I'm Tennessee, and you play
in Memphis, in Atlanta and Florida. You know whatever, If
Ohio State shows up and they hand me a check
for eight hundred thousand dollars, I'm going to Columbus.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
I played with you in a media softball game a
couple of years ago. You're pretty good. What position did
you play in high school?

Speaker 1 (27:47):
I was an outfielder, and I was a left handed
pitcher who had natural fastball movements but did not have
a lot of natural curveball movement, So that was a problem.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
Oh, as a left to you, I can see that
all right, Let's go back to the weekend real quick
and Saint Louis. Denny Hamlin got a big win, a
couple of really timely pit stops, overtakes Brad Kazlowski on
the restart. Fifty ninth career win for Denny Hamlin. Of course,
there's a lot of talk about the next gen Carr
and the lapse led and everything else. Once again, but
your thoughts on Denny Hamlin's win Sunday, Man.

Speaker 6 (28:20):
That's really inconventing you from NASCAR, isn't it. It's just,
you know, it's one of the I cannot wait for
us to get like five years down the road to
look back on this charter thing and the lawsuits.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
And all that, and Denny Hamlin continues to win, and
the reality is he is in such rarefied are you
you hit fifty wins? You are next level? You hit
sixty wins? You whatever is above Mount Rushmore is where
you're headed. And so for what he's done, I don't
care if he want a championship or not, but man,

(28:56):
if he were to win the championship in November, going
back to Homestead and do it in the middle of
all this that's going on, with the lawsuit and Michael
Jordan and all that other stuff. It would be I'm
already working on my treatment for a thirty for thirty.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
Oh man, all right, I love it. By the way,
you did you killed the Lane Kiffin thing just before
I let you go. I encourage everybody to go watch it.
But what if, folks, is there something that you learned
about him? Are you something you think folks should know
about Lane Kiffin that we don't already know?

Speaker 1 (29:27):
Yeah, and what would drop was the trailer? I mean,
you don't even know. I was actually on a meeting today.
The one hour documentary premieres on the twenty fourth September
on ESPN, and it's yeah, you know, I've known Lane
since we were kids when his dad Money Kiffin, which
is a big part of the piece, when his dad,
Money Kiffin was an empty state. You know. I grew
up in Raleigh and my dad was an a STC referee,

(29:48):
couldn't work state games because we lived in Raleigh, And
so my brother and I would play like pick up
football with Lane Kiffen and the other coaches kids, and
he's calling DPIs and holding and all this stuff. And
for twenty years, my brother caught it because I think
that little Maley, six year old from Ency State just
got the Raiders job. And so I've known Laying a
long time. But but I think that what people are

(30:08):
going to learn about him, and this is kind of
the same of the show, is the many lives of
Lane Kiffin. He's not the guy you think he is now.
He was the guy you thought he was at Tennessee
and at USC and you know when he was getting
chewed out by saving and even when he first took
the job at all miss. But he's fifty years old
now and he has evolved as a person. And so

(30:30):
what's going to be interesting now is to see if
the perception of him evolves. And you know, based on
the reaction to the trailer, people still really don't like him.
So I'm curious to see how they feel when they
watch the whole one hour documentary. I take it back.
They either really don't like him or they really really
love him, and so I'm curious to see what people's
perception is when they when they do when they watched

(30:53):
the whole show. But he the interview we did with
him was that that was a good interview as I've
ever been a part of in my career, so I'm
excited to for it to get out there.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Yeah, the trailer's awesome. Ryan McGee, ESPN Senior Writer. You
can see him on college game Day SEC Nation. Of course,
his colleague and our buddy, Roman Harper back tomorrow for
his Wednesday conversation, and he told me to tell everybody
he did not duck us last week because of the
Alabama loss.

Speaker 4 (31:14):
So I forgot to mention that. Ryan.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
I appreciate you, buddy. Fans love you, We appreciate your time.
We'll talk to you next week.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
Hey, ask Harp about him leading yoga.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
Oh I saw, dude, I saw the videos. It was incredible.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
No, no, no, no no. It was all these lady,
all these co eds from Missouri were doing Downward Dog
and I look and there's there's Harp leading the class.
And you need to ask him about that. Tell him.
Make sure you say I said to ask him about it.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
Oh listen, I laughed at him. I saw the video.
I sent him a message laughing at him. It was amazing. Ryan,
Thank you, brother. We'll talk to you next week.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
Appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (31:46):
Thanks, Hey goo, buddy.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
Ryan McGee, Senior writer, ESPN with us on the hot
line each and every Tuesday. Just started that a couple
of weeks ago, and he's fantastic. I mean, just talk
to him like every time you bring up some you know,
big figure in football. I grew up with him, knew
he's been around so long. He knows everybody in the
sport is NASCAR takes for the best. I just love Ryan.

Speaker 4 (32:05):
He's like the Secret Life of Walter Mitty in some ways. Yeah,
I agree.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
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(32:39):
because the punishment is out. The NFL are finding Jalen
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he was ejected for will serve as a one game
suspension since it happened within like the first two minutes
of the game. So I guess that's kind of get

(33:00):
into weeds. I don't know if that technically counts as
a suspension or not. He didn't play, yeah, so, but
he will be available for the Eagles this weekend. And oh,
it's a big game, Kyle, because it's a Super Bowl
rematch against the Kansas City Chiefs.

Speaker 4 (33:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
I'm not shocked. I'm not shocked. We'll come back. We'll
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Speaker 4 (34:19):
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Speaker 3 (34:21):
Just come back from the Crochet Club, because Garrett Crochet
balled out last night in Sacramento, seven inning shutout baseball
on the mound, ten strikeouts as the Socks got a
seven up and win over the Sacramento A's, which just sounds.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
Like I should be arrested for saying that, Yeah it does.
I'll stick with baseball. Braves fans haven't had a ton
to be happy about in the back half of the season,
but they did get to celebrate some history last night.
Bryce Elder threw six and a third strong innings and
the Braves beat the Cubs for to one to give
Brian Snitker his eight hundredth career victory. In that game,

(34:57):
by the way, Ozzy Albi's and Matt Olsen both solo
home runs to pace the Atlanta offense, but Brian Snitker
became the eighty sixth manager in baseball history so win
at least eight hundred games, and the third in the
history of the Braves franchise to reach the milestone. Only
Bobby Cox and Frank Seey both members of the Hall
of Fame had more victories than Brian Snitker. Snit with

(35:19):
win number eight hundred bawling out.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
By the way two Braves notes that are do want
to mention it hasn't been talked about enough how Matt
Olson's played in like nearly eight hundred consecutive games. Wow,
that's it. Yeah, especially in these days. And before you
say it, no, he's not.

Speaker 4 (35:34):
Going to reach the iron Man streak record of Cal Ripken, no,
we know. But still absolutely impressive.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
And even though the biggest sin for Matt Olson, not unfortunately,
I think will be you're not Freddie Freeman.

Speaker 4 (35:44):
But he's still been a very good player for the
Atlanta Braves.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
But in two things I saw earlier this morning, Sean
Murphy to catch her of the team, just revealed he
had to get hit surgery. He's apparently been playing on
a messed up hit for like three years. He hit
it from the team.

Speaker 4 (35:59):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
And he just revealed, Yeah, my head's messed up. So
that is very weird. That explains probably why he struggled
from the plate so much. But luckily for the Braves,
I think you got that catcher position filled.

Speaker 4 (36:09):
Moving forward with Drake.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
Baldwin, I think so big thanks to Ryan McGee for
stopping by. Really love his segments, and that's why I
wanted to get him back on the show to start
the football season, because he's awesome and we appreciate his time.
And now with us being part of the ESPN Radio family,
they've got Marty and McGee, he's on Game Day and
SEC Nation, we can bring you a lot more of
his fantastic work covering college football and NASCAR. But as

(36:32):
I was talking to him specifically about Brent Prye and
Virginia Tech getting out scored thirty four to nothing in
the second half at home against Vanderbilt on Saturday night,
few people reacted to that, but the Bagel guy in
particular said, dam k be never heard you give a
strong take like that.

Speaker 4 (36:47):
Well, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
I mean I give lots of strong takes, so I
need a little bit more detail.

Speaker 4 (36:51):
But I don't know what else to say.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
Sometimes you just get hit in the face with reality
and you don't want to admit it, but you know
that it's over. Like i'd ask the audience as an example,
I don't want to say it because I like Brent Pritte.
I'm an alumnus of Virginia Tech.

Speaker 4 (37:08):
Y'all know that.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
Okay, it's two and a half hours up the road.
We have a ton of alums in the area, so
you know, we talk about them from time to time,
but they don't give us much reason to talk about
them because they've stunk, you know. And last year, with
you know, all the expectations of the playoff dark Corse
and acc contender, they flopped, but then saw six guys
end up in the NFL off that roster they flopped.
I mean, they wasted a ton of talent on that roster.

(37:31):
And now they come back and they can't close in
the fourth quarter against South Carolina. Okay, good team, but
you played valiantly, but you made mistakes in the fourth quarter.
You couldn't score still, and then you're playing good football
in the first half against Vanderbilt, Clark Lee makes and
I guess Jerry kill two make like one or two
adjustments and you can't counter it, and you get outscored

(37:52):
on your home field thirty four to nothing in the
second half. Brent Prize record trailing after three quarters is
now one in seventeen one and seventeen trailing after three quarters.
That's abysmal. He is oho to two against Duke, Rutgers, Vanderbilt,
NC State, Miami. He's lost to Marshall, He's lost to ODU,

(38:14):
might do it again this weekend, mind you, and lost
to a not that great Purdue team. Like, what evidence
is there that Brent Price is a good football coach.
He's a good coordinator, had a great run with James
Franklin at Penn State and ironically Vanderbilt before that, So
I mean he's a I think he was a Broyls
Award winner at Penn State as a defensive coordinator. But
what evidence is there that Brent Prie is a good

(38:36):
head football coach. It pains me to say it, but
I think the answer is there is none. There is
no evidence. I wish it was different. I wish it
worked out, but it's not going to. And if he
loses to ODU on Saturday, I don't know how you
don't fire the guy after the game. I think you
would have been justified firing him this past weekend, but
some people don't have the appetite for that. In Week
two plus, they have a potentially lame duck ad that's

(38:57):
got to go out the door with him because ads
don't get to hire three three football coaches at football
schools and miss on. You know, the first two just
doesn't get to happen, and.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
You're wasting Mike Young by not giving him any resources
in basketball? Got it all that, but like when's the
first because some sports fans just know who was the
guy head coach? You know in this conversation that you
knew early, Oh, this ain't working, this is not gonna
work out, And this isn't early for Prides now year
four for him, but we're two games in and some
people like I can't believe he's saying that after two weeks.

(39:26):
What evidence is there in three plus years that the
guy is a good football coach? Now this is not
like early on in the process, but it just made
it realize very early on in the contract extension that
it wasn't going to work out. The season opener. We're
talking about season opening duds. Even last year. It still
doesn't compare to the pain and everyone's stomach debt. After

(39:47):
Jake Delomb's horrendous performance against the Cardinals and the playoffs,
he gets that big contract extension so Jerry can lock
up a quarterbacks, so he doesn't have to worry about
that heading into the lockout two years from now. Then
Jake gets to contract and he has another like four
turnover game. We're and I think everyone in Charlotte was thinking,
oh no, they just made a big mistake, and to

(40:10):
compounded it with the contract that that's probably the moment
where it's like and that set Carolina and t d
best for basically two and a half three years and
it took him four years to get out of it. Yeah,
so yeah, that was probably one of those moments right there.
I will say, though, as bad as this is, I
do think the next coach that replaces Brit Pry is

(40:31):
not going to have as heart of a hole to
get out of as Brent Priy did with Justin Twine.
And it's unfortunate because, as you said, got nothing but
good things to say about the man. Yeah, he handled
everything off the field the way that Justin Fuinte probably
should have. And plus Brint Price just has a better personality.

Speaker 4 (40:47):
Players like him. People like him.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
He fits the place, he under all that stuff recruits
pretty well, but he gets out. He gets out coached
every single opportunity he has to make an impact from
the sideline. You can't point to one example of Brent
pry Out coaching the opposite sideline. You can't do it,
not when it matters. It doesn't exist. And it pains
me to say it, But it's over. It's absolutely Unless

(41:10):
they go rattle off, you know, eight and they go
win nine of their next ten, it's over for him.

Speaker 4 (41:16):
And Texter's blowing us up here. I love this.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
Todden Detroit said he knew Charlie Weiss was over from
the start. Yeah, which one though? Which jobs got off
to a really good start. That's why I said what
job were talking about?

Speaker 3 (41:27):
In week two, it took Michigan over a half to
get across the fifty yard line in and Arbor.

Speaker 4 (41:31):
Notre Dame won that game.

Speaker 3 (41:33):
Notre Dame was like a ten win team after being
four and five win teams with Tyrone Willingham the two
years prior. So I don't think that's fair. I think
maybe when Brady Quinn left, that first game against Georgia
Tech was completely awful, and then they got you know,
completely slapped out of the field of Happy Valley and
that was like a three win team. And then once
Jimmy Clawson got hurt No. Eight with his little turf

(41:55):
toe that screwed things up in eight No.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
Nine.

Speaker 3 (41:57):
He didn't have a defense or for a damn to
save Jimmy Clawson. And by the way, I'll stand on this,
if Jimmy Clouston had a decent defense that Notre Dame team,
nobody cares.

Speaker 6 (42:05):
Ah.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Free Chick fil A, said Jeff Collins
at Georgia Tech. Jeff Collins. Yeah, that one became pretty
apparent pretty early on. I'll stay in college football. This
one's a way, it's a ways back. But I knew
Scotty Montgomery was a disaster at ACU from the jump. Now,
I admittedly was a big rough and McNeil fan love
Ruff didn't agree with firing him in the first place.

(42:26):
I know there was more to it than just that,
but I knew right away Scotty Montgomery is going to
be a disaster.

Speaker 3 (42:31):
And good for Scotty. He's been able to rebound in
his career too. He's become a He.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
Wasn't ready for the job. Yeah, he wasn't ready for
that job. Dave Canalis. According to several people, Tenderfoot said
Cam Cameron in Miami that's a really good one.

Speaker 4 (42:43):
That's a really really good one. Well, he was.

Speaker 3 (42:46):
He was also going to be screwed because Cleo Lemon
was the starting quarterback.

Speaker 4 (42:49):
Yeah, is that right?

Speaker 3 (42:51):
Cleo Lemon, John Trick Green was to start as a
start to year, but he got completely like his career
ended against Houston where it was a blindside block on
the I think an interceptions that ended his career. So
you got Cleo Lemon and John Beck as a rookie.
Nick Saban basically said, screw you guys, I'm going home
and going to Tuscaloosa. Yeah, it probably wouldn't have worked

(43:11):
out for anyone.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
I got Biff Pogi a ton on the text line,
which is timely for this weekend. Chip Bleeping Kelly just
came in. Question, is who is the coach that you
knew right away was not going to work? I mean
just right away you knew this was this was a disaster,
this was the wrong decision. We'll come back, We'll read
some of these more to get to lots of Panthers.
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