July 24, 2025 • 38 mins
In the show's final hour, Kyle talks to NC State HC Dave Doeren, and the topic turns to whether or not this could be another year of the Wolfpack punching above expectations when not many people are paying attention to them
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:32):
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Speaker 2 (00:34):
You've already heard from Dabo Sweeney and Brent Prye and
Dave Doran's coming up and Eric McLain stopped by just
a monster Thursday Show made bigger and better by the
man sitting across from me right now, the executive director
of the College Football Playoff. We got Richard Clark with
us here on Radio Row. How's it going, mister Clark.
It's good to have you, Oh, Kyle, it is going great.
Thanks for having me. I do go by rich Okay, absolutely,
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but I appreciate that, and it's great to be with
you right now. Absolutely well. I mean, this is a
busy event. It's always greatest, the unofficial kickoff to the
football season. So we're talking about all sorts of things,
right Bill Belichick is here, and how goods Clemson going
to be? And how deep does the conference go and
all that, But I just want to start with, you know,
your impressions of the first twelve team college football Playoff
last year? You oversaw it, we got to I was
so excited. I mean, I think a lot of us
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were that we got to see it for the first
time because many of us have been coveting that for
a long time.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
How do you feel that it went.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
I felt like it was fantastic As a fan before
I took the job. I've been in a job a
year now, and like you, I always wanted to see
the playoff expand, and I felt like it went as
well as it could have gone. We knew with one
hundred percent certainty that we weren't going to get at
one hundred percent right. There's some things that we needed
to change, but the way that it came off, I
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couldn't have been happier. The first round was spectacular on campuses.
I went to the Notre Dame game Ohio State game,
and the electricity in those stadiums was like nothing I've
ever seen. So we're really happy with how that went out,
and the quarterfinals and semifinals were just you know, spectacular
performances by our bull partners to put those games on,
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and they bring the tradition and just that neutral feel
of the game so that we could just see the
teams for who they were compete on the field for
who's going to advance through the playoff. I thought they
did an amazing job. And the championship game in Atlanta,
I'll never forget it, you know, it was the first
one I did so, but I thought that the whole
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playoff was just really done in great fashion. We did
change the ranking and seating of the you know, the
top four conference champions last year got to buy This year,
it's just going to be done by straight seeding. So
however their rank, that's how they're gonna be seated this
coming year. Twelve teams, and we're excited for this new format.
But we learned a lot and we're gonna get better
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every year.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
You mentioned it, you thought you knew going into it. Hey,
it's the first year of us doing this. We're probably
gonna have to tweak some things. Everything might not be
Was it immediately evident that, hey, these automatic first round
byes probably have to go.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
It's pretty close to the media.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
You know. As soon as the we got the bracket
filled out, I was like, Okay, we could probably change
that next year, and the commissioners knew that too, so
they were pretty quick to come to a conclusion that
we needed to change it. They made the decision and
we changed out a few months ago. So I think
it's going to be a lot better and it'll look
more sort of like what you would expect to see
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in a playoff bracket and how it's laid out. So
I'm real happy.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
About that, you know, given what I do, I followed
the news every day. I got friends in college football,
but I'm not in those rooms where the debates are
taking place over how to move forward, how to take
it to fourteen or to sixteen.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
You know, I know there's five to eleven.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
I know there's the other option, which doesn't have as
convenient a name, but you know there.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Are all these debates about it.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
How involved are you in terms of weighing in as
opposed to maybe mediating, Like, what is your role in
these discussions with conference leaders about how to best proceed
moving forward?
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Yeah? I think my role is more facilitating the discussion.
I do provide a recommendation, though, and I give them
my rationale for the recommendation, but I provide them options.
My team and I come up with these are the
possibilities that you could look at, and the pros and
cons to each of the possibilities. WILL provide a recommendation
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and then that will start the discussion. And they don't
always take my recommendation, which is fine. You know, they're
ultimately the decision makers. But I want to give them
everything we can so that they can get to a
good decision. So a lot of his facilitation, they'll ask
for more information. There may be something that they need
to have to help guide them to a decision, and
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we work hard to provide them everything they need to
get to an answer that they'll be happy with and
that all of college football can accept.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Rich Clark the executive director of the College Football Playoff.
He's with us here on site. Which you might not
know about him is that he was a pretty good
linebacker back in his day. Were you're a good football
player back in then?
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Well, yeah, us forty years ago, so I could say yeah,
it was great because no one could prove otherwise.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
It's no Twitter, right, But no, I know you were.
You were also the superintendent at the Air Force Academy. Yes,
I believe they were ranked, you know, nationally under your
Air Force has a proud tradition all we all know that.
But I'm at Army Navy every year. You know, I
just talked to those folks the other day doing the
show live, and you know, I love that event. But like,
how did that experience and your background both you know,
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playing there but also a retired lieutenant colonel? You know,
how does that military background playing at the Air Force
Academy help you, I guess to be better at your
job and doing.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
All of this.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Sure, well, I've always been huge into athletics, and while
I was at the Air Force Academy as a superintendent,
obviously I paid very close attention to everything that we
did in our athletics program, and I was probably more
heavily involved than most because I did play. But here
here's the one thing that's that's kind of funny. When
I was a player our senior year, we were twelve
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and one. We were ranked fifth in the nation. If
we had the college Football Playoff back then, we would
have been hosting a first round game at the Air
Force Academy.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
It would have been the most game we ever had.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
And I just go, man that like that, that was
probably the one year that it would have happened, But
how amazing would it have been. So now I put
myself in the shoes of you name the team in
the country. To have that hope, to have that opportunity
to maybe get into the playoff to vye for the
for the national championship, it's just amazing. So I feel
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very personal to make this an opportunity for the teams
to strive for and to shoot for and to have
as a goal in the beginning of the season, and
then when they get there, I want to make it spectacular.
I want it to be a lifetime event for them.
And I really take it very personally because I could
have been there as a young athlete, but now I
have the opportunity to provide that to so many others.
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So I love this position. I mean, it's just great.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
It feels like the Service academies have always kind of
been at a disadvantage when it comes to college football,
just because of the rigorous standards and it being a
little bit different. But what about anile era, you know,
in terms of you know, I guess not outbidding for players. Again,
they're still doing it differently. How do the service academies,
you know, approach that? What's what do you think of that?
Speaker 4 (07:05):
Yeah, well, the service academies aren't going to be able
to pay nil to any student. So really, a service
academy student athlete is planned for the love of the game,
that's right, because they have to give up a lot,
you know, and it's hard enough at a service academy,
but then when you pile on to preparing for Division
I competition, right, it makes it even harder. But they
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do it because they love it. Now, I would say
that most student athletes, if not all, do it because
they love it. And I also think that it's okay
that students get paid, you know, because they should. We
just need to have good guardrails and do it in
a way that's ethical, that's above board. But you know,
they they earn it on the field, and their name,
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image and likeness is valuable. So I think it. I
do think it's good. But at a service academy, it's
just it's not a factor for us, and we it's
just something that we have to accept and work around.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Down the street a Bank of America Stadium, home of
the a SEC championship game. It's important to Atlanta the
SEC title game. Same in Indy for the Big Ten.
Like how big a proponent are you advocate for, you know,
for the preservation of conference championship games As we move
forward with.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
All this, I am a huge proponent of preserving the
conference championship game and making it meaningful so that it
the winner of that game actually actually gets an advantage,
you know, and I think they deserve that, and so
that's why we preserved the top five conference champions will
get into the playoffs. Even though they don't get that buy,
they're still in the playoff. But that's athletics. That's what
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you play for. Championships. You play to be a champion,
and we have to have that as part of athletics,
whether you know it's at the conference level, the national level,
wherever it is, Championships is what people strive for. Play
like a champion today. I mean, you know, the oldest program,
or maybe not the oldest, but one of the most
story programs, Notre Dame, that's their you know, that's their model.
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Play like a champion today. We all want to be championed,
so we have to hold on to that. Yeah, I
agree with you.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Now, I know that your focus is the playoff and
I don't want you to think this is in any
way political, But we just had news come down. There
was an executive order signed a little while ago about
college athletics and amateurism. You know, there have been appeals
to Congress to try to get help those sorts of things.
What's the right route to go, like, what level of
political involvement helps college football? Is there a level of
political involvement that helps college football?
Speaker 4 (09:27):
That's hard to say right in my mind, it would
be good to leave it in the hands of the
NCAA and the conference commissioners to really guide us in
that position. But sometimes, you know, when there's a standstill
or a stalemate, you know, the government can get involved
to kind of spur the process a little bit. So,
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you know, I think it's it's better when the government
doesn't have to get involved, but if they do, so
be it, and we'll work with that. But you know,
hopefully this will help and it'll it'll move things to
where they need to go.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Rich Clark, the executive director, of the college football Playoff
here at the de facto opening of the college football
season here at the ACC kickoff.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Great to meet you, Thank you for thank you.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
I appreciate you having.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Me absolutely there you go.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Rich Clark with us here on the body Works plus
Guest hot Line live on Radio Row with us here
in the Queen City. Hit us up seven oh four five,
seven ninety six ten with your thoughts on the fan
duel text. A lot a lot of you are doing
exactly that right now. And you know, part of the
larger conversation here is which of these teams will be involved?
How many teams in the Atlantic Coast Conference are good enough,
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talented enough, you know, to be in that conversation? Can
they get multiple teams into the playoff again this year?
I know that's a big question this week here at
the kickoff. Clemson appears to be the favorite, obviously to
win the conference. But what about Louisville? You know, what
about Mario christoball in Miami. Cam Ward's gone to the
Tennessee Titans. Now kart In steps Carson Beck transferring in
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from Georgia. You know, is he good enough for them
to pick it up and continue?
Speaker 3 (11:00):
You know?
Speaker 2 (11:00):
The march that Mario Christobal has been on to rebuild
Miami football. These are all big questions. Jeff Brommitt, Louisville
figures to have a strong team. I think Brent Key
and Georgia Tech with Haines King are gonna be really
difficult to deal I don't think that seven overtime deal
at Georgia.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Last year was a fluke at all.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
I think Georgia Tech is going to be a monster
to deal with weekend week out in the ACC. Smoke,
I heard you in my head, said a minute ago.
I know you love you some Yellowjackets going into the season.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
Yeah, I really think they could be the dark horse
team to make it to Charlotte. I don't know if
they're good enough to win it. I feel like this
is Clemson's conference to lose still, but we all know
that Georgia Tech has been a form in the side
for Clemson over the last fifteen years. So at the
very least, I think if they don't make the conference championship, Kyle,
they could play a similar role to what Syracuse did
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last year to where they would be a really good
team that could spoil the chances of making the conference
championship game here in Charlotte for another team.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Yeah, and by the way, if you're an NC State fan,
make sure to stick around. You're gonna from Dave Doran
coming up here in about twelve to fifteen minutes. Full
disclosure on this one. Everything today has been live. This
one is a conversation that Dave and I sat down
and taped earlier today. We caught up before the show
and really enjoyed the conversation. I don't want to go
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too far, but I think Dave Doran might enjoy our
conversations just a little bit, Like I think we've had
enough of them together at this point that you know,
Dave doesn't necessarily hate talking to me smoke and it.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Makes me feel good. I gotta be honest.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
You know, Dave's not the easiest nut to crack, but
we had a really good conversation and his team, right
I know, if Phil Steele was on with Mac and Bone,
I think that was last note two weeks ago. Maybe
pointing out that you know n C State, you know,
on occasion when they have a disappointing year, they tend
to bounce back, and I talked about that with Dave.
Tom Lougan Bill said here yesterday he thinks that n
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C State is a team that we're not paying enough
attention to in terms of competing for the ACC Championship.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
I know CJ.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Bailey was on the station earlier today with Wes or
with Walker rather maybe both I forget, but it was Walker, Okay,
well either way, I mean I was standing next to C. J.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Bailey.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
That's a big strap in young He's bigger than you realize,
Like he looks skinny out there on the field, but
he's a big old kid, A talented guy. Played really
well the final six games of the year last year.
They do have two new coordinators new quote unquote and
Kurt Roper on the offensive side. But you know, Roper's
not new to the program. He's been with Day for
a long time and he replaced Robert and I. But
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there is continuity there and defensively, you know Dj Elliott.
I know they're confident in him. There is talent returning
on that side of the ball.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
I mean, is NC State not getting enough credit for
how good they could be?
Speaker 3 (13:41):
What do you think, Smoke?
Speaker 5 (13:42):
I think it's just one of those cases where the
variance between their ceiling and floor is probably the highest
at least in the ACC, if not one of the
highest in all of a group of four college football
in my opinion, or you know power for excuse me
still getting used to saying that instead of power five.
But yeah, honestly think if things were to work out,
it's because they got Kurt Roper as offense coordinator and
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he clicks with CJ. Bailey because the defense, I think
that's going to be more of a challenge just not
having Tony Ellott, not Tony Elliott, cheezu, Tony Gibson, Tony Gibson,
thanks you as DC, and that he was there for
a while. But you look back at what Kurt Roper
has been able to do. Remember he was TOC when
David Cutcliffe got to Duke and he was there for
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quite a while. He was on that team that made
the ACC championship game, and you know there were limitations
to the amount of talent that they were able to get.
Of course, they had some good players like Jamison Crowder
for example, but you know you're not gonna get the
same type of players at NC State as you are
at Duke. You're gonna have more more chances to get
better players, especially in this era of nil and you
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got a lot of guys that showed a lot of
flashes but never put it all together.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Last year. CJ.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
Bailey, I think is the main guy when you talk
about that, even though they lost Casey concepts, you owned
to the transfer portal to Texas A and M I
look at the guys like Jolly and I look at Hollywood.
Hollywood smumverers could be what NC State has been looking
for because unfortunately, Kyle, for as much as we want
to talk about some of the offensive weapons that Dave
Dorn and NC State's had over the last five years,
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the one thing they haven't had since guys like Naheem
Heinz left, has been a really good running back. Yeah,
and that's something I think that's been one of the
achilles heels to NC State's potential is the fact that
it just hasn't haven't had a consistent running game since
like twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Yeah, and that was you know, but that was part
of the expectation last year too, And I know you
kind of touched on that, but I mean, you've got
the constant roster turnover at all of these places. And
I only bring that up to say that, you know,
everybody's dealing with it, but it is still something needs
to be dealt with. I think they have some nicer
pieces returning on the offensive line, something you'll hear about
coming up in the next segment. Like, I think there
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are reasons for NC State fans to be, you know,
excited about the season. Most of them that I've heard
from in our conversations about State, you know, are are
very reserved. Many of them saying, eh, you know, not
expecting a ton, but twenty twenty six might be awesome,
And like, I don't know, can you can you even
anticipate or expect anything that far out?
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Given how much.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Roster turnover is occurring year over year, It makes for
a really interesting conversation. But again the point being that
Dave Dorian has has tended to bounce back over the years,
and this could be a year that happens now real quick.
I wanted to bring this in seven oh four number.
We haven't talked much Panthers today and that's going to
change tomorrow. That we've had two straight days of ACC
kickoff coverage. This is a big deal. Tons of college
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football fans in the area. But it ends today. We're
back in studio tomorrow, and so you know, between that
and of course the Panthers putting the pads on next week,
all of that in terms of our conversations will really
ramp up.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
But how about this smoke, Like we've already.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
The last two times the Panthers have opened the season
with the Jacksonville Jaguars, they've gone on to play in
the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Right.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
I think as part of that it was also what
Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez divorcing in those same years,
Is that right?
Speaker 3 (16:57):
No, just j Lo divorcing. She got divorced in twenty
fifteen two.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Okay, wasn't there one other thing that was like this
happened all three times or both times the Panthers made
there was something else?
Speaker 3 (17:08):
I think Ohio State winning the Natty. That's it.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
That's it, Ohio State winning the national championship the year prior.
All right, So check this out. Seven oh four number
says we've had eight one hundred degree days in the
past ten years. Five of those came in twenty fifteen
one this year, and potentially four to five more next week.
Potentially maybe this heat will bring us Panthers wins. Do
with that what you will.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
I got some bad news about that. Yeah, that's why
I brought it up. I want to see what you
thought about that. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Yeah, Brad Panovich, Uh, the weaver God himself was mentioning
the last time this has really happened was two thousand
and seven KD. That wasn't great because the quarterback had
to get Tommy John surgery. Okay, yeah, we don't care
about that. You're not wrong to point that, don't get
me wrong. But then then yeah, we don't care about
that at all. Yeah, all right, And then we had
to watch David Carr hold on to the football for
like six seconds.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
But guys, it's because he sudden. You know, offensive line
in Houston was bad.
Speaker 6 (17:59):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
The offense line he had in Carolina was good, and
he still sucked.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
He was gonna suck no matter what.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
All Right, my god, that guy had how many chances?
Yet Tim Couch never got a second chance. Yeah, give
me a break. He was wasted by Houston. No, he sucked,
he sucked.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Smokes fired up. I hate all these David car Apologists.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
I'm sorry we're in these David car apologists for Tim Couch,
an actual quarterback who was wasted by an expansion franchise
kid Meat.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
All right, brother, you take a breath and let me
tell you something when we come back. State fans stick around.
I had a great conversation earlier with Dave Dort, head
coach of the wolf Pack. You're gonna hear that next.
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That's all currently experiencing some technical difficulties Live at acc
Cookoff with Kyle Bailey and Fitty Marlow. But you still
have me And luckily, earlier today, Kyle Bailey was able
to talk to the head coach of NC State football,
Dave Dorn, heading into a very interesting twenty twenty five
season with two new coordinators on both sides of the ball,
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and one of the first question that Kyle asked Dave
Dorn was how his team historically has been able to
bounce back after disappointing seasons.
Speaker 7 (19:28):
Yeah, We've had some really good rebound years, and I'm
fortunate that I've been in a lot of the opportunity.
Bluke Horgan has hung in there with me. I've had
two years that I would consider down years in my
tenure that the next year we won five more games
than we did the year before in both both the seasons.
So why I think it starts with me taking ownership
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and my part of it. You know, everything starts with
the head coach. When we fail. I failed, and I
have no problem saying that. I know that my responsibility
to these coaches is to create an environment where they
can thrive, for these players, where I can make them
better than they were and hold them accountable in the process.
And it's harder than ever with roster management being what
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it is. And so you know, I think people look
at us sometimes the coach, You've been doing this thirty
one years. You ought to know what you're doing. I'm
like I do. But in the last three years it's
changed more than it has in the previous twenty nine
for me, you know, with roster management. So I'm learning
and growing as I go, But you're looking at a
guy that hates losing. Very competitive. I never want to
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be called underachiever, It's quite the opposite. I want to
be an overachiever, and so I take that personal and
I don't want to let our fans down, you know.
I want those people to go to work on on
Monday and be able to walk around with some cloud.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Yeah that's cool. And again, I don't want to overstate it.
You haven't had to bounce back that much. You are
the winningest head coach in program history. What is like,
what's the standard at nc State football? We see mantras
and you know, I know you might break it down
an ACC champs sometimes, but when you're out there either
selling recruits or you know, just doing your thing, like,
what is the standard every single day for NCI State football?
Speaker 7 (21:07):
You know, there's a million ways to answer that question.
I think it starts with our identity. It's yeah, we
call it htt play hard, play tough, and play together,
and we want to be a blue collar, grinder, tough,
physical football team. We want to have extreme energy when
we do it, and we want to pull for each
other man. It's a family, it's a great team sport,
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and so it comes down to a ton of different
tenants for us, and at the end of the day.
It's about being the very best family we can be
on that football field. And here's what makes football unique.
There's one hundred and twenty five guys in our locker
room and only eleven of them are playing at once.
And so it's a selfless thing to be on a
team that actually cares for each other. And building that
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is my greatest challenge every year. It's a different puzzle
that you got to put together. And you know, it
all starts with the simplest thing of all goal and rule.
Treat people the way you want to be treated, you know.
I mean that's what are your team rules? Will all
of them fall into one bucket?
Speaker 3 (22:06):
It starts right there. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Dave dordanhead football coach NC State wolf Pack, he's with
us here on Radio Row. Right before you came on,
I saw you standing next to CJ.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Bailey.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Yeah, he was a lot of fun to watch down
the stretch last year. I know that you know his
development's ongoing, But how much do you trust him, you know,
to run your offense and what does he mean to
your program?
Speaker 7 (22:24):
I have complete trust in CJ. And there's a lot
of reasons. You know, he's blessed with the talent that
you wont at that position. He's got size and speed,
he sees the game, but his intangibles, how he was raised,
the way that he owns the things that he does wrong.
He has no problem coming up in saying, coach, I
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screwed that up, and so we'll talk about it and
then how you're going to do it better, and then
he'll tell you, and he'll do it in front of
the team, he'll do it in front of the media.
He has no problem placing blame on his shoulders. And
that's what when you look at a football program, it's
the head coach, then it's the quarter even though there's
coaches above the quarterback, those are the two where most
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of the onus falls. And so when you have one
that's extremely confident in handling that because it's not pressure,
it's it's a blessing to be in the position that
CJ is and he's earned that. But he does it
with such grace, you know, and his enthusiasm for everything
about being in that room. It's really contagious. It's fun
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to be around that. And Jacoby Brissette was that way.
He loved everything about football. He loved training, he loved practice.
He loved film, he loved goofing off with his teammates,
he loved holding guys accountable, and he.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Loved to compete.
Speaker 7 (23:40):
And CJ is a lot like him.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
How much do you trust the guys in front of him?
They're protecting you know.
Speaker 7 (23:46):
The old line is the most critical part of your
team when it comes to the success of the offense.
I always tell the team this. You know, five is
one five olignement. Playing is one body. And when you
have guys doing that, your quarterback has more time to throw,
Your receivers have more time to get open, your running
backs have bigger running lanes to get through. It's a
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big thing. And I like the depth in the competition there.
But we have some really good returning experience on the
old line. Jakiri's Peak, who's over three hundred pounds now,
really athletic.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
We brought in.
Speaker 7 (24:19):
A transfer T. G Anderson from Utah State and he's
a really good football player and excited about Teague. Really
good player. Jalen a center we brought in. We actually
played at Mount Carmel High School in Chicago for Jordan Lynch,
my quarterback at NIU. He's a state champion wrestler. Jordan said,
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he's the toughest kid he ever coached in his life.
And he transferred to US from Purdue and he's a really,
really steady player at center and just every single play
he's the same guy. You know, Anthony Carter has played
a ton of football for US at guard and we
have a big competition going on on the other side
at guard Cayman Smith al Eericson. So excited to see
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that competition. And then we're developing some young guys that
have gotten a lot better, you know. And then we
brought in a center guard last year or actually in
the midyear, Isaac Sohl Spike. He's probably one of the
most talented freshmen alignment I've ever been around. So I
really like our old line right now and here at
TJ deserves a lot of credit for not only developing
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but recruiting some of the guys in that room, getting
them to the point they're at. We're going to be
good upfront. Man, It's going to be a group that
plays really hard.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Love it well. I'll let you get out of here
on this. As the head coach, you're coaching players. Sometimes
you're coaching coaches, right and I know a big storyline
is two new coordinators. I mean, Kurt's not new right obviously,
he was there already, But like, how much of that
are you doing right now or do you just have
that inherent trust already and you can continue to do
what you do every day.
Speaker 7 (25:50):
No, I do trust this, Dj Elliott. I've known a
long time. Kurt's been with me a long time. As
you mentioned, I have complete trust in both of them.
At the same time, there's certain things that I care
about that I'm going to be vocal, but I don't
micromanage either of them. You know, I'm going to go in.
I want to know what they're doing. I want to
know why they're doing it. I'm going to give input,
and when something looks wonky, I'm gonna ask them about
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it and just hey, explain this to me. Why are
we doing it this way? And if I think there's
another way to do it, We're going to have that conversation.
And at the end of the day, I want the
coordinator to feel confident in what he's doing. I've been
in their chair and I understand what it's like when
the head coach comes in and makes you do something
that's not a comfortable thing. You know, I want to
make sure we're aligned. Just like I want to be
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aligned with Buke Horgan and I want to be aligned
with our new chancellor. They need to be aligned with me,
and so I understand their position, and I also understand
the value of giving them another way to look at things.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Dave Dorn, head football coach NC State Wolf Pack with
us here on Radio Row.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
Coach.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
I always enjoy catching up there. Yeah, thanks guys, Go Pack.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Dave Dorn Earlier today we had that conversation prior to
the show talking about his team, talking about the bounce back,
and I will say smoke. When I asked him about
that earlier. He took it as a compliment, but he
was also very quick to point out they they haven't
had to bounce back that many times. He is in
fact of winning his head coach and program history. But
I don't do you have the Logan Bill audio from yesterday?
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I think we do. If not, it's no big deal.
But Tom Lugan Bill ESPN checked this out. I mean
yesterday just coming out both Beryls saying that we are
not talking enough about NC State.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
The team that and I'm gonna say it because it
always happens.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
The team you're gonna have.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
To look out for is NC State because nobody's talking
about them, eh, and they almost.
Speaker 5 (27:29):
Got their entire roster back.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
And the quarterback is a dude.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
CJ.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Bailey is a player.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
And what always happens guys with NC State when nobody's
talking about.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
There, you go, like, that's the point that people are making.
Smith Fitty just snarled. He just kind of smirked when
he said, we played that on it. I heard your
reaction to it this morning.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Listen.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
That's to me, that's one of the most interesting things
about this conference, right, There's always interesting things to talk
about every year at this event going into a year.
But like Clemson's the favorite? Who is the number two
team in this conference?
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Who is it?
Speaker 2 (28:02):
I'm not even saying you have to make an impassioned
case for NC State necessarily, but like, who is the
is there in your mind and unquestioned second best team
of this conference? If you believe Clemson is the preseason favorite,
smoke who to you?
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Who is it?
Speaker 5 (28:15):
Could it be Duke? I? No, just because I need
to see what Min's is gonna do. And plus Miami, No,
I can't I don't trust Miami until they actually do something,
I'm not gonna trust them. I think it kind of
has to be SMU. They got the quarterback returning to
get lastly, you know, returning, They've got a lot of
momentum on their side. There's a lot of fresh energy
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surrounding that program. I think it has to be SMU
when it comes to if you're gonna find a second favorite.
But I'm not going, you know, full further support and
SMU clearly being the second team because I think the
gap between let's say teams two through six, or maybe
even seven, if you want to get a little frisky,
are very slim in a lot of ways. One or
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two bounces could completely change how the ACC looks this year.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Okay, a second best team in this conference today, who
is it?
Speaker 8 (29:04):
I was gonna joke and say it was Clemson's second unit.
I do think, you know, there's some I think I
think SMU deserves some some credence here after what they
did last year, you know, winning eleven games in the
regular season. I'm a believer in Miami more so than
probably you are.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Mac.
Speaker 8 (29:21):
I think crystal Ball is doing it the right way,
and they're on the verge of becoming a national staying
power once again. But if you want the off the
radar team, the team that's not gonna be the sexiest
team to talk about, I'll go Georgia Tech. If Haines
King can stay healthy, with how unique that offense is,
they can win. They can win nine ten games because
I think what you said earlier was accurate. What they
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did against Georgia and the regulations finale. That wasn't by accident,
that wasn't rivalry game magic those that was a good
football team that just got beat by a better football tea.
So as long as Haines King can stay healthy, that's
the biggest thing for him. If he's healthy, they're gonna
be They're gonna be a problem.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Yeah, he's not.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Haines King is not going to beat the elite teams
in this country with just his arm. But it's the
combination of his arm and his legs. And you know
the guys they have up front of me, and again
Brent Keeth, former offensive lineman, he recruited guys that fit
not just his system but his mentality. Like we hear
guys say all the time that you know, teams take
on the persona of their coach. That team took on
the persona of Brent Key, and I expect more of
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that this year.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
Dan.
Speaker 6 (30:25):
I think they're gonna be a difficult out.
Speaker 8 (30:26):
They're gonna be and we're gonna learn a lot about
them Week one, you know, on the road at Colorado
and that second iteration of what the the Buffalos are
gonna like under d On. But yeah, I think I
think they're gonna be a team that no one, no
one wants to play with. If you want to look
at the local teams, I understand why you bring up Duke.
How good they are defensively. You think you're getting an
upgrade at quarterback. But they got a tough schedule to Illinois,
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they gotta go to Tulane. But if they can split
those games, who knows, maybe they completely be a team
that wins eight or nine games because Main and d has,
I think is at a perfect spot in Durham to
really be the kind of coach he was never at Miami.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Gotcha all right?
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Seven O four five seven ninety six ten Bag of
Doughnuts says, don't sleep on Syracuse. I mean that's interesting.
Like Ricky Collins, the LSU transfer, he's got the.
Speaker 6 (31:09):
League of Boss so much.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
They did, they did, but I mean they the quarterback
battle certainly makes them interesting. I mean, Smoke pointed out
yesterday that fran Brown just landed a five star wide receiver.
It was a Flounder. I'm sorry, Flounder did that credit
by Bounder? Yeah, yeah, right, it's good. But like, I
think their program does have some momentum. But you're your
pointing about their depth of talent right now is fair?
And again I go back to Miami. I'm not a
huge Miami fan obviously, but like, I don't know that
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I expect them to be tough. I don't think I
gave him enough credit earlier because some dude named Ramone
is out there, you know, trash talking to me on
the text line right now. He's upset. I think he's
you know, I don't think he thinks I gave Carson.
Oh he's a Georgia Phantom, so he's a Carson Beck.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Stand.
Speaker 6 (31:47):
Is that the guy that said you look like a
hot air balloon?
Speaker 2 (31:50):
This dude, you look like a hot air blow. I'm like, damn, bro,
I don't think that's true. It's like, I hope your
tattoos help you sleep well at night? Like, what does
that even mean?
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Bro?
Speaker 8 (31:59):
Realistically? Yeah, what are your boys gonna do?
Speaker 3 (32:02):
Virginia Tech?
Speaker 8 (32:03):
Realistically? I mean he's he's got to get eight wins right.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
To keep his job.
Speaker 8 (32:11):
Yeah, after how big of a failure last year was?
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Yeah, I think probably probably?
Speaker 4 (32:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Probably? No, it's no.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
I mean you got South Carolina and Vandy back to back,
and you know, when you hear Vandy, you think, oh,
what are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Vandy's different?
Speaker 6 (32:28):
Now?
Speaker 8 (32:28):
Am I wrong to think that's gonna be a game
in the fourth quarter?
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Though? They game?
Speaker 8 (32:32):
No, the South Carolina game. I keep telling people, I
think that's gonna be the case. I think South Carolina
wins because they got the best player.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
I said the exact same thing.
Speaker 6 (32:39):
But if that.
Speaker 8 (32:40):
Game is twenty four to twenty in the fourth quarter,
I'm not surprised.
Speaker 6 (32:43):
And you'll love That's what I expect. You'll love this
because as.
Speaker 8 (32:47):
As much as my anti Virginia Tech, yeah, I'm a
Brent Prye guy, I'm like actually ruining for him to
not suck.
Speaker 6 (32:53):
I want him to win.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
No, I love the guy, I really do. I I
want him to succeed. But if they maybe it's the number.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
They need it bad, like they need a breakout year.
They need it to be you know, not they need
like a nine win season to jump start things again.
I don't know if they've got the depth of he
thinks the roster's better. They lost five dudes, six dudes
to the NFL, and he thinks the rosters better, you know,
which could be true, It could be famous last words.
You just don't know. But yeah, I'm rooting for him.
And the thing about it is like I think drones
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can be effective. Yeah, and now that they brought in
Philip Montgomery, who used to run Tulsa's offense and or
he's the head coach Auburn's offense.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Like they could be dynamic offensive.
Speaker 8 (33:30):
It's gonna be weird seeing them be an offensive I'm
not maybe not a driven team because they always want
to be good defensively, right, but seeing them want to
be explosive on offense and try to create game changing plays.
I mean, I've never seen that in my lifetime watching
them that program play football.
Speaker 6 (33:45):
So it's gonna be fun and interesting.
Speaker 8 (33:46):
But I think he's the right guy to coach drones's
talent and can maybe get the most out of him.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
No not, I agree.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
I mean the thing is too like you know, the
only time, to your point, that it's ever happened was
when they had a dynamic.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Dual threat quarterback, which they have.
Speaker 8 (33:57):
I still wonder if Tyrod Taylor, Yeah, Toroka, here's to Rod.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
That guy seven oh four five seven ninety six ten
hit us up on the fan duel text line. I
still can't get over that dude on the text line.
I hope your tattoos helped us sleep at night. Like, bro,
I appreciate a good troll job on the text slide,
but like, what does that even mean? And how did
I upset you to the point that that's that's the
best thing you could come up with.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
Nobody knows what it means. It's provocative.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
It's probably Willie p on a burner account. It's probably
Willy peas burner phone because I allowed Fitty to make
fun of him and then I did you know, give
Willype's quads the who bawled out nomination of the day.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
I'm glad. I love that he's working out, you know,
I try to be a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
I'm gonna I bet that's Willip on a burner phone anyway,
that or a dude named Ramone. I'm not sure yet.
All right, let's go to smoke on the headlights are
an interesting report from Andrew Marshan. According to Marshan, ESPN
and the NFL are close to a deal that would
make programming available in ESPN's direct to consumer product as
soon as this fault. The next era quote unquote ESPN
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app could include the Red Zone Channel, NFL network and
more for twenty nine to ninety nine per month.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
How much twenty nine to ninety nine per month twenty
nine to ninety nine.
Speaker 5 (35:13):
For the Red Zone forty app, which would include the
Red Zone Channel, NFL network and more.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
Who's paying?
Speaker 2 (35:21):
How many people are paying thirty bucks a month for that?
I don't know, me, you're not.
Speaker 8 (35:26):
I got YouTube TV, So as long as it's an
add on every six months, that's what I'm gonna give it.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
With YouTube TV, it's like a ten dollars add on
for Red Zone, right, Yeah, Yeah, to me, that's the
way to go.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
I think that's the way to go.
Speaker 6 (35:37):
All right?
Speaker 3 (35:37):
What else you got?
Speaker 4 (35:38):
Smoked?
Speaker 3 (35:38):
All right?
Speaker 5 (35:39):
And earlier today is scare for the New York Jets
as Justin Field sustained a dislocated toe in his right
foot and will be day to day a lot less
severe to people were thinking, But Kyle, I want to
get your faults on the injury, since you're an expert
on which injury.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
Justin Field's sustaining a dislocation. Oh do you know?
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Okay, I'm sorry, I got distracted. I'm not going to
dignify that with a response. We'll come back with up
the show Sports Radio ninety two to seven WFNZ. Hey
(36:18):
one final time, Sports Radio ninety two to seven WFNZ.
And we're gonna be quick about this because they have
been rapidly tearing down radio.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
Row around us for the last fifteen minutes.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
I think the people at the Hilton would like for
us to exit stage right as quickly as possible, which
also is why we dropped out lost power about fifteen
twenty minutes ago. They want us out of here so badly.
Somebody just ripped the power chord and so the entire
row that was left doing live radio lost power and
internet connection. So yeah, we're gonna wrap it up back
in studio tomorrow. Although Charlotte fan on the text line
(36:50):
not happy that we won't be live from the American
Conference Media Days tomorrow. I have no control over such things,
and Fiddy has now jumped into the fray in this
conversation too, So I think the guys in the midday
we'll have Hunter Bailey on to discuss things. And despite
this Charlotte fan, he says, it's pathetic that we're not
gonna be there tomorrow. Sorry, boss, I don't know what
(37:10):
to tell you. I just I'm rooting for your guy.
I think Tim Alvin was a great hire. I think
he's gonna win. Pretty pumped for you guys to start
the year with app and UNC. So yeah, I don't
know what else to say about it. I'd best of
luck to you, and other than that, we'll we'll pass
along anything interesting that comes from the American Conference Media
Days tomorrow, But for now, big thanks to dab Osweeney
(37:33):
of course, to Dave Dorin, to Brent Pride, to Eric McClain,
to Rich Clark, the executive director of the College Football Playoff,
all for stopping by the table.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
Had a really good time. Don't forget that.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
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Speaker 3 (00:32):
Sorry about that. We'll keep you company though, We'll keep
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Speaker 2 (00:34):
You've already heard from Dabo Sweeney and Brent Prye and
Dave Doran's coming up and Eric McLain stopped by just
a monster Thursday Show made bigger and better by the
man sitting across from me right now, the executive director
of the College Football Playoff. We got Richard Clark with
us here on Radio Row. How's it going, mister Clark.
It's good to have you, Oh, Kyle, it is going great.
Thanks for having me. I do go by rich Okay, absolutely,
(00:57):
but I appreciate that, and it's great to be with
you right now. Absolutely well. I mean, this is a
busy event. It's always greatest, the unofficial kickoff to the
football season. So we're talking about all sorts of things,
right Bill Belichick is here, and how goods Clemson going
to be? And how deep does the conference go and
all that, But I just want to start with, you know,
your impressions of the first twelve team college football Playoff
last year? You oversaw it, we got to I was
so excited. I mean, I think a lot of us
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were that we got to see it for the first
time because many of us have been coveting that for
a long time.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
How do you feel that it went.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
I felt like it was fantastic As a fan before
I took the job. I've been in a job a
year now, and like you, I always wanted to see
the playoff expand, and I felt like it went as
well as it could have gone. We knew with one
hundred percent certainty that we weren't going to get at
one hundred percent right. There's some things that we needed
to change, but the way that it came off, I
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couldn't have been happier. The first round was spectacular on campuses.
I went to the Notre Dame game Ohio State game,
and the electricity in those stadiums was like nothing I've
ever seen. So we're really happy with how that went out,
and the quarterfinals and semifinals were just you know, spectacular
performances by our bull partners to put those games on,
(02:09):
and they bring the tradition and just that neutral feel
of the game so that we could just see the
teams for who they were compete on the field for
who's going to advance through the playoff. I thought they
did an amazing job. And the championship game in Atlanta,
I'll never forget it, you know, it was the first
one I did so, but I thought that the whole
(02:30):
playoff was just really done in great fashion. We did
change the ranking and seating of the you know, the
top four conference champions last year got to buy This year,
it's just going to be done by straight seeding. So
however their rank, that's how they're gonna be seated this
coming year. Twelve teams, and we're excited for this new format.
But we learned a lot and we're gonna get better
(02:52):
every year.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
You mentioned it, you thought you knew going into it. Hey,
it's the first year of us doing this. We're probably
gonna have to tweak some things. Everything might not be
Was it immediately evident that, hey, these automatic first round
byes probably have to go.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
It's pretty close to the media.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
You know. As soon as the we got the bracket
filled out, I was like, Okay, we could probably change
that next year, and the commissioners knew that too, so
they were pretty quick to come to a conclusion that
we needed to change it. They made the decision and
we changed out a few months ago. So I think
it's going to be a lot better and it'll look
more sort of like what you would expect to see
(03:26):
in a playoff bracket and how it's laid out. So
I'm real happy.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
About that, you know, given what I do, I followed
the news every day. I got friends in college football,
but I'm not in those rooms where the debates are
taking place over how to move forward, how to take
it to fourteen or to sixteen.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
You know, I know there's five to eleven.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
I know there's the other option, which doesn't have as
convenient a name, but you know there.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Are all these debates about it.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
How involved are you in terms of weighing in as
opposed to maybe mediating, Like, what is your role in
these discussions with conference leaders about how to best proceed
moving forward?
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Yeah? I think my role is more facilitating the discussion.
I do provide a recommendation, though, and I give them
my rationale for the recommendation, but I provide them options.
My team and I come up with these are the
possibilities that you could look at, and the pros and
cons to each of the possibilities. WILL provide a recommendation
(04:17):
and then that will start the discussion. And they don't
always take my recommendation, which is fine. You know, they're
ultimately the decision makers. But I want to give them
everything we can so that they can get to a
good decision. So a lot of his facilitation, they'll ask
for more information. There may be something that they need
to have to help guide them to a decision, and
(04:37):
we work hard to provide them everything they need to
get to an answer that they'll be happy with and
that all of college football can accept.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Rich Clark the executive director of the College Football Playoff.
He's with us here on site. Which you might not
know about him is that he was a pretty good
linebacker back in his day. Were you're a good football
player back in then?
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Well, yeah, us forty years ago, so I could say yeah,
it was great because no one could prove otherwise.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
It's no Twitter, right, But no, I know you were.
You were also the superintendent at the Air Force Academy. Yes,
I believe they were ranked, you know, nationally under your
Air Force has a proud tradition all we all know that.
But I'm at Army Navy every year. You know, I
just talked to those folks the other day doing the
show live, and you know, I love that event. But like,
how did that experience and your background both you know,
(05:19):
playing there but also a retired lieutenant colonel? You know,
how does that military background playing at the Air Force
Academy help you, I guess to be better at your
job and doing.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
All of this.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Sure, well, I've always been huge into athletics, and while
I was at the Air Force Academy as a superintendent,
obviously I paid very close attention to everything that we
did in our athletics program, and I was probably more
heavily involved than most because I did play. But here
here's the one thing that's that's kind of funny. When
I was a player our senior year, we were twelve
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and one. We were ranked fifth in the nation. If
we had the college Football Playoff back then, we would
have been hosting a first round game at the Air
Force Academy.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
It would have been the most game we ever had.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
And I just go, man that like that, that was
probably the one year that it would have happened, But
how amazing would it have been. So now I put
myself in the shoes of you name the team in
the country. To have that hope, to have that opportunity
to maybe get into the playoff to vye for the
for the national championship, it's just amazing. So I feel
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very personal to make this an opportunity for the teams
to strive for and to shoot for and to have
as a goal in the beginning of the season, and
then when they get there, I want to make it spectacular.
I want it to be a lifetime event for them.
And I really take it very personally because I could
have been there as a young athlete, but now I
have the opportunity to provide that to so many others.
(06:44):
So I love this position. I mean, it's just great.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
It feels like the Service academies have always kind of
been at a disadvantage when it comes to college football,
just because of the rigorous standards and it being a
little bit different. But what about anile era, you know,
in terms of you know, I guess not outbidding for players. Again,
they're still doing it differently. How do the service academies,
you know, approach that? What's what do you think of that?
Speaker 4 (07:05):
Yeah, well, the service academies aren't going to be able
to pay nil to any student. So really, a service
academy student athlete is planned for the love of the game,
that's right, because they have to give up a lot,
you know, and it's hard enough at a service academy,
but then when you pile on to preparing for Division
I competition, right, it makes it even harder. But they
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do it because they love it. Now, I would say
that most student athletes, if not all, do it because
they love it. And I also think that it's okay
that students get paid, you know, because they should. We
just need to have good guardrails and do it in
a way that's ethical, that's above board. But you know,
they they earn it on the field, and their name,
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image and likeness is valuable. So I think it. I
do think it's good. But at a service academy, it's
just it's not a factor for us, and we it's
just something that we have to accept and work around.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Down the street a Bank of America Stadium, home of
the a SEC championship game. It's important to Atlanta the
SEC title game. Same in Indy for the Big Ten.
Like how big a proponent are you advocate for, you know,
for the preservation of conference championship games As we move
forward with.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
All this, I am a huge proponent of preserving the
conference championship game and making it meaningful so that it
the winner of that game actually actually gets an advantage,
you know, and I think they deserve that, and so
that's why we preserved the top five conference champions will
get into the playoffs. Even though they don't get that buy,
they're still in the playoff. But that's athletics. That's what
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you play for. Championships. You play to be a champion,
and we have to have that as part of athletics,
whether you know it's at the conference level, the national level,
wherever it is, Championships is what people strive for. Play
like a champion today. I mean, you know, the oldest program,
or maybe not the oldest, but one of the most
story programs, Notre Dame, that's their you know, that's their model.
(08:58):
Play like a champion today. We all want to be championed,
so we have to hold on to that. Yeah, I
agree with you.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Now, I know that your focus is the playoff and
I don't want you to think this is in any
way political, But we just had news come down. There
was an executive order signed a little while ago about
college athletics and amateurism. You know, there have been appeals
to Congress to try to get help those sorts of things.
What's the right route to go, like, what level of
political involvement helps college football? Is there a level of
political involvement that helps college football?
Speaker 4 (09:27):
That's hard to say right in my mind, it would
be good to leave it in the hands of the
NCAA and the conference commissioners to really guide us in
that position. But sometimes, you know, when there's a standstill
or a stalemate, you know, the government can get involved
to kind of spur the process a little bit. So,
(09:50):
you know, I think it's it's better when the government
doesn't have to get involved, but if they do, so
be it, and we'll work with that. But you know,
hopefully this will help and it'll it'll move things to
where they need to go.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Rich Clark, the executive director, of the college football Playoff
here at the de facto opening of the college football
season here at the ACC kickoff.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Great to meet you, Thank you for thank you.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
I appreciate you having.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Me absolutely there you go.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Rich Clark with us here on the body Works plus
Guest hot Line live on Radio Row with us here
in the Queen City. Hit us up seven oh four five,
seven ninety six ten with your thoughts on the fan
duel text. A lot a lot of you are doing
exactly that right now. And you know, part of the
larger conversation here is which of these teams will be involved?
How many teams in the Atlantic Coast Conference are good enough,
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talented enough, you know, to be in that conversation? Can
they get multiple teams into the playoff again this year?
I know that's a big question this week here at
the kickoff. Clemson appears to be the favorite, obviously to
win the conference. But what about Louisville? You know, what
about Mario christoball in Miami. Cam Ward's gone to the
Tennessee Titans. Now kart In steps Carson Beck transferring in
(10:56):
from Georgia. You know, is he good enough for them
to pick it up and continue?
Speaker 3 (11:00):
You know?
Speaker 2 (11:00):
The march that Mario Christobal has been on to rebuild
Miami football. These are all big questions. Jeff Brommitt, Louisville
figures to have a strong team. I think Brent Key
and Georgia Tech with Haines King are gonna be really
difficult to deal I don't think that seven overtime deal
at Georgia.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Last year was a fluke at all.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
I think Georgia Tech is going to be a monster
to deal with weekend week out in the ACC. Smoke,
I heard you in my head, said a minute ago.
I know you love you some Yellowjackets going into the season.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
Yeah, I really think they could be the dark horse
team to make it to Charlotte. I don't know if
they're good enough to win it. I feel like this
is Clemson's conference to lose still, but we all know
that Georgia Tech has been a form in the side
for Clemson over the last fifteen years. So at the
very least, I think if they don't make the conference championship, Kyle,
they could play a similar role to what Syracuse did
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last year to where they would be a really good
team that could spoil the chances of making the conference
championship game here in Charlotte for another team.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Yeah, and by the way, if you're an NC State fan,
make sure to stick around. You're gonna from Dave Doran
coming up here in about twelve to fifteen minutes. Full
disclosure on this one. Everything today has been live. This
one is a conversation that Dave and I sat down
and taped earlier today. We caught up before the show
and really enjoyed the conversation. I don't want to go
(12:16):
too far, but I think Dave Doran might enjoy our
conversations just a little bit, Like I think we've had
enough of them together at this point that you know,
Dave doesn't necessarily hate talking to me smoke and it.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Makes me feel good. I gotta be honest.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
You know, Dave's not the easiest nut to crack, but
we had a really good conversation and his team, right
I know, if Phil Steele was on with Mac and Bone,
I think that was last note two weeks ago. Maybe
pointing out that you know n C State, you know,
on occasion when they have a disappointing year, they tend
to bounce back, and I talked about that with Dave.
Tom Lougan Bill said here yesterday he thinks that n
(12:50):
C State is a team that we're not paying enough
attention to in terms of competing for the ACC Championship.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
I know CJ.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Bailey was on the station earlier today with Wes or
with Walker rather maybe both I forget, but it was Walker, Okay,
well either way, I mean I was standing next to C. J.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Bailey.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
That's a big strap in young He's bigger than you realize,
Like he looks skinny out there on the field, but
he's a big old kid, A talented guy. Played really
well the final six games of the year last year.
They do have two new coordinators new quote unquote and
Kurt Roper on the offensive side. But you know, Roper's
not new to the program. He's been with Day for
a long time and he replaced Robert and I. But
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there is continuity there and defensively, you know Dj Elliott.
I know they're confident in him. There is talent returning
on that side of the ball.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
I mean, is NC State not getting enough credit for
how good they could be?
Speaker 3 (13:41):
What do you think, Smoke?
Speaker 5 (13:42):
I think it's just one of those cases where the
variance between their ceiling and floor is probably the highest
at least in the ACC, if not one of the
highest in all of a group of four college football
in my opinion, or you know power for excuse me
still getting used to saying that instead of power five.
But yeah, honestly think if things were to work out,
it's because they got Kurt Roper as offense coordinator and
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he clicks with CJ. Bailey because the defense, I think
that's going to be more of a challenge just not
having Tony Ellott, not Tony Elliott, cheezu, Tony Gibson, Tony Gibson,
thanks you as DC, and that he was there for
a while. But you look back at what Kurt Roper
has been able to do. Remember he was TOC when
David Cutcliffe got to Duke and he was there for
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quite a while. He was on that team that made
the ACC championship game, and you know there were limitations
to the amount of talent that they were able to get.
Of course, they had some good players like Jamison Crowder
for example, but you know you're not gonna get the
same type of players at NC State as you are
at Duke. You're gonna have more more chances to get
better players, especially in this era of nil and you
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got a lot of guys that showed a lot of
flashes but never put it all together.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Last year. CJ.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
Bailey, I think is the main guy when you talk
about that, even though they lost Casey concepts, you owned
to the transfer portal to Texas A and M I
look at the guys like Jolly and I look at Hollywood.
Hollywood smumverers could be what NC State has been looking
for because unfortunately, Kyle, for as much as we want
to talk about some of the offensive weapons that Dave
Dorn and NC State's had over the last five years,
(15:11):
the one thing they haven't had since guys like Naheem
Heinz left, has been a really good running back. Yeah,
and that's something I think that's been one of the
achilles heels to NC State's potential is the fact that
it just hasn't haven't had a consistent running game since
like twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Yeah, and that was you know, but that was part
of the expectation last year too, And I know you
kind of touched on that, but I mean, you've got
the constant roster turnover at all of these places. And
I only bring that up to say that, you know,
everybody's dealing with it, but it is still something needs
to be dealt with. I think they have some nicer
pieces returning on the offensive line, something you'll hear about
coming up in the next segment. Like, I think there
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are reasons for NC State fans to be, you know,
excited about the season. Most of them that I've heard
from in our conversations about State, you know, are are
very reserved. Many of them saying, eh, you know, not
expecting a ton, but twenty twenty six might be awesome,
And like, I don't know, can you can you even
anticipate or expect anything that far out?
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Given how much.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Roster turnover is occurring year over year, It makes for
a really interesting conversation. But again the point being that
Dave Dorian has has tended to bounce back over the years,
and this could be a year that happens now real quick.
I wanted to bring this in seven oh four number.
We haven't talked much Panthers today and that's going to
change tomorrow. That we've had two straight days of ACC
kickoff coverage. This is a big deal. Tons of college
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football fans in the area. But it ends today. We're
back in studio tomorrow, and so you know, between that
and of course the Panthers putting the pads on next week,
all of that in terms of our conversations will really
ramp up.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
But how about this smoke, Like we've already.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
The last two times the Panthers have opened the season
with the Jacksonville Jaguars, they've gone on to play in
the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Right.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
I think as part of that it was also what
Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez divorcing in those same years,
Is that right?
Speaker 3 (16:57):
No, just j Lo divorcing. She got divorced in twenty
fifteen two.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Okay, wasn't there one other thing that was like this
happened all three times or both times the Panthers made
there was something else?
Speaker 3 (17:08):
I think Ohio State winning the Natty. That's it.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
That's it, Ohio State winning the national championship the year prior.
All right, So check this out. Seven oh four number
says we've had eight one hundred degree days in the
past ten years. Five of those came in twenty fifteen
one this year, and potentially four to five more next week.
Potentially maybe this heat will bring us Panthers wins. Do
with that what you will.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
I got some bad news about that. Yeah, that's why
I brought it up. I want to see what you
thought about that. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Yeah, Brad Panovich, Uh, the weaver God himself was mentioning
the last time this has really happened was two thousand
and seven KD. That wasn't great because the quarterback had
to get Tommy John surgery. Okay, yeah, we don't care
about that. You're not wrong to point that, don't get
me wrong. But then then yeah, we don't care about
that at all. Yeah, all right, And then we had
to watch David Carr hold on to the football for
like six seconds.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
But guys, it's because he sudden. You know, offensive line
in Houston was bad.
Speaker 6 (17:59):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
The offense line he had in Carolina was good, and
he still sucked.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
He was gonna suck no matter what.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
All Right, my god, that guy had how many chances?
Yet Tim Couch never got a second chance. Yeah, give
me a break. He was wasted by Houston. No, he sucked,
he sucked.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Smokes fired up. I hate all these David car Apologists.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
I'm sorry we're in these David car apologists for Tim Couch,
an actual quarterback who was wasted by an expansion franchise
kid Meat.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
All right, brother, you take a breath and let me
tell you something when we come back. State fans stick around.
I had a great conversation earlier with Dave Dort, head
coach of the wolf Pack. You're gonna hear that next.
Sports Radio ninety two seven wfn Z.
Speaker 5 (18:47):
And welcome back to Sports Radio w fn Z ninety
two point seven FM. This is Evan Ludwig Smoke here
live into Chandler voltsa studio CV Injury Law dot Com.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
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Speaker 5 (18:59):
That's all currently experiencing some technical difficulties Live at acc
Cookoff with Kyle Bailey and Fitty Marlow. But you still
have me And luckily, earlier today, Kyle Bailey was able
to talk to the head coach of NC State football,
Dave Dorn, heading into a very interesting twenty twenty five
season with two new coordinators on both sides of the ball,
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and one of the first question that Kyle asked Dave
Dorn was how his team historically has been able to
bounce back after disappointing seasons.
Speaker 7 (19:28):
Yeah, We've had some really good rebound years, and I'm
fortunate that I've been in a lot of the opportunity.
Bluke Horgan has hung in there with me. I've had
two years that I would consider down years in my
tenure that the next year we won five more games
than we did the year before in both both the seasons.
So why I think it starts with me taking ownership
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and my part of it. You know, everything starts with
the head coach. When we fail. I failed, and I
have no problem saying that. I know that my responsibility
to these coaches is to create an environment where they
can thrive, for these players, where I can make them
better than they were and hold them accountable in the process.
And it's harder than ever with roster management being what
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it is. And so you know, I think people look
at us sometimes the coach, You've been doing this thirty
one years. You ought to know what you're doing. I'm
like I do. But in the last three years it's
changed more than it has in the previous twenty nine
for me, you know, with roster management. So I'm learning
and growing as I go, But you're looking at a
guy that hates losing. Very competitive. I never want to
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be called underachiever, It's quite the opposite. I want to
be an overachiever, and so I take that personal and
I don't want to let our fans down, you know.
I want those people to go to work on on
Monday and be able to walk around with some cloud.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Yeah that's cool. And again, I don't want to overstate it.
You haven't had to bounce back that much. You are
the winningest head coach in program history. What is like,
what's the standard at nc State football? We see mantras
and you know, I know you might break it down
an ACC champs sometimes, but when you're out there either
selling recruits or you know, just doing your thing, like,
what is the standard every single day for NCI State football?
Speaker 7 (21:07):
You know, there's a million ways to answer that question.
I think it starts with our identity. It's yeah, we
call it htt play hard, play tough, and play together,
and we want to be a blue collar, grinder, tough,
physical football team. We want to have extreme energy when
we do it, and we want to pull for each
other man. It's a family, it's a great team sport,
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and so it comes down to a ton of different
tenants for us, and at the end of the day.
It's about being the very best family we can be
on that football field. And here's what makes football unique.
There's one hundred and twenty five guys in our locker
room and only eleven of them are playing at once.
And so it's a selfless thing to be on a
team that actually cares for each other. And building that
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is my greatest challenge every year. It's a different puzzle
that you got to put together. And you know, it
all starts with the simplest thing of all goal and rule.
Treat people the way you want to be treated, you know.
I mean that's what are your team rules? Will all
of them fall into one bucket?
Speaker 3 (22:06):
It starts right there. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Dave dordanhead football coach NC State wolf Pack, he's with
us here on Radio Row. Right before you came on,
I saw you standing next to CJ.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Bailey.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Yeah, he was a lot of fun to watch down
the stretch last year. I know that you know his
development's ongoing, But how much do you trust him, you know,
to run your offense and what does he mean to
your program?
Speaker 7 (22:24):
I have complete trust in CJ. And there's a lot
of reasons. You know, he's blessed with the talent that
you wont at that position. He's got size and speed,
he sees the game, but his intangibles, how he was raised,
the way that he owns the things that he does wrong.
He has no problem coming up in saying, coach, I
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screwed that up, and so we'll talk about it and
then how you're going to do it better, and then
he'll tell you, and he'll do it in front of
the team, he'll do it in front of the media.
He has no problem placing blame on his shoulders. And
that's what when you look at a football program, it's
the head coach, then it's the quarter even though there's
coaches above the quarterback, those are the two where most
(23:05):
of the onus falls. And so when you have one
that's extremely confident in handling that because it's not pressure,
it's it's a blessing to be in the position that
CJ is and he's earned that. But he does it
with such grace, you know, and his enthusiasm for everything
about being in that room. It's really contagious. It's fun
(23:26):
to be around that. And Jacoby Brissette was that way.
He loved everything about football. He loved training, he loved practice.
He loved film, he loved goofing off with his teammates,
he loved holding guys accountable, and he.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Loved to compete.
Speaker 7 (23:40):
And CJ is a lot like him.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
How much do you trust the guys in front of him?
They're protecting you know.
Speaker 7 (23:46):
The old line is the most critical part of your
team when it comes to the success of the offense.
I always tell the team this. You know, five is
one five olignement. Playing is one body. And when you
have guys doing that, your quarterback has more time to throw,
Your receivers have more time to get open, your running
backs have bigger running lanes to get through. It's a
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big thing. And I like the depth in the competition there.
But we have some really good returning experience on the
old line. Jakiri's Peak, who's over three hundred pounds now,
really athletic.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
We brought in.
Speaker 7 (24:19):
A transfer T. G Anderson from Utah State and he's
a really good football player and excited about Teague. Really
good player. Jalen a center we brought in. We actually
played at Mount Carmel High School in Chicago for Jordan Lynch,
my quarterback at NIU. He's a state champion wrestler. Jordan said,
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he's the toughest kid he ever coached in his life.
And he transferred to US from Purdue and he's a really,
really steady player at center and just every single play
he's the same guy. You know, Anthony Carter has played
a ton of football for US at guard and we
have a big competition going on on the other side
at guard Cayman Smith al Eericson. So excited to see
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that competition. And then we're developing some young guys that
have gotten a lot better, you know. And then we
brought in a center guard last year or actually in
the midyear, Isaac Sohl Spike. He's probably one of the
most talented freshmen alignment I've ever been around. So I
really like our old line right now and here at
TJ deserves a lot of credit for not only developing
(25:26):
but recruiting some of the guys in that room, getting
them to the point they're at. We're going to be
good upfront. Man, It's going to be a group that
plays really hard.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Love it well. I'll let you get out of here
on this. As the head coach, you're coaching players. Sometimes
you're coaching coaches, right and I know a big storyline
is two new coordinators. I mean, Kurt's not new right obviously,
he was there already, But like, how much of that
are you doing right now or do you just have
that inherent trust already and you can continue to do
what you do every day.
Speaker 7 (25:50):
No, I do trust this, Dj Elliott. I've known a
long time. Kurt's been with me a long time. As
you mentioned, I have complete trust in both of them.
At the same time, there's certain things that I care
about that I'm going to be vocal, but I don't
micromanage either of them. You know, I'm going to go in.
I want to know what they're doing. I want to
know why they're doing it. I'm going to give input,
and when something looks wonky, I'm gonna ask them about
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it and just hey, explain this to me. Why are
we doing it this way? And if I think there's
another way to do it, We're going to have that conversation.
And at the end of the day, I want the
coordinator to feel confident in what he's doing. I've been
in their chair and I understand what it's like when
the head coach comes in and makes you do something
that's not a comfortable thing. You know, I want to
make sure we're aligned. Just like I want to be
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aligned with Buke Horgan and I want to be aligned
with our new chancellor. They need to be aligned with me,
and so I understand their position, and I also understand
the value of giving them another way to look at things.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Dave Dorn, head football coach NC State Wolf Pack with
us here on Radio Row.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
Coach.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
I always enjoy catching up there. Yeah, thanks guys, Go Pack.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Dave Dorn Earlier today we had that conversation prior to
the show talking about his team, talking about the bounce back,
and I will say smoke. When I asked him about
that earlier. He took it as a compliment, but he
was also very quick to point out they they haven't
had to bounce back that many times. He is in
fact of winning his head coach and program history. But
I don't do you have the Logan Bill audio from yesterday?
(27:10):
I think we do. If not, it's no big deal.
But Tom Lugan Bill ESPN checked this out. I mean
yesterday just coming out both Beryls saying that we are
not talking enough about NC State.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
The team that and I'm gonna say it because it
always happens.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
The team you're gonna have.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
To look out for is NC State because nobody's talking
about them, eh, and they almost.
Speaker 5 (27:29):
Got their entire roster back.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
And the quarterback is a dude.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
CJ.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Bailey is a player.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
And what always happens guys with NC State when nobody's
talking about.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
There, you go, like, that's the point that people are making.
Smith Fitty just snarled. He just kind of smirked when
he said, we played that on it. I heard your
reaction to it this morning.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Listen.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
That's to me, that's one of the most interesting things
about this conference, right, There's always interesting things to talk
about every year at this event going into a year.
But like Clemson's the favorite? Who is the number two
team in this conference?
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Who is it?
Speaker 2 (28:02):
I'm not even saying you have to make an impassioned
case for NC State necessarily, but like, who is the
is there in your mind and unquestioned second best team
of this conference? If you believe Clemson is the preseason favorite,
smoke who to you?
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Who is it?
Speaker 5 (28:15):
Could it be Duke? I? No, just because I need
to see what Min's is gonna do. And plus Miami, No,
I can't I don't trust Miami until they actually do something,
I'm not gonna trust them. I think it kind of
has to be SMU. They got the quarterback returning to
get lastly, you know, returning, They've got a lot of
momentum on their side. There's a lot of fresh energy
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surrounding that program. I think it has to be SMU
when it comes to if you're gonna find a second favorite.
But I'm not going, you know, full further support and
SMU clearly being the second team because I think the
gap between let's say teams two through six, or maybe
even seven, if you want to get a little frisky,
are very slim in a lot of ways. One or
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two bounces could completely change how the ACC looks this year.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Okay, a second best team in this conference today, who
is it?
Speaker 8 (29:04):
I was gonna joke and say it was Clemson's second unit.
I do think, you know, there's some I think I
think SMU deserves some some credence here after what they
did last year, you know, winning eleven games in the
regular season. I'm a believer in Miami more so than
probably you are.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Mac.
Speaker 8 (29:21):
I think crystal Ball is doing it the right way,
and they're on the verge of becoming a national staying
power once again. But if you want the off the
radar team, the team that's not gonna be the sexiest
team to talk about, I'll go Georgia Tech. If Haines
King can stay healthy, with how unique that offense is,
they can win. They can win nine ten games because
I think what you said earlier was accurate. What they
(29:43):
did against Georgia and the regulations finale. That wasn't by accident,
that wasn't rivalry game magic those that was a good
football team that just got beat by a better football tea.
So as long as Haines King can stay healthy, that's
the biggest thing for him. If he's healthy, they're gonna
be They're gonna be a problem.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Yeah, he's not.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Haines King is not going to beat the elite teams
in this country with just his arm. But it's the
combination of his arm and his legs. And you know
the guys they have up front of me, and again
Brent Keeth, former offensive lineman, he recruited guys that fit
not just his system but his mentality. Like we hear
guys say all the time that you know, teams take
on the persona of their coach. That team took on
the persona of Brent Key, and I expect more of
(30:24):
that this year.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
Dan.
Speaker 6 (30:25):
I think they're gonna be a difficult out.
Speaker 8 (30:26):
They're gonna be and we're gonna learn a lot about
them Week one, you know, on the road at Colorado
and that second iteration of what the the Buffalos are
gonna like under d On. But yeah, I think I
think they're gonna be a team that no one, no
one wants to play with. If you want to look
at the local teams, I understand why you bring up Duke.
How good they are defensively. You think you're getting an
upgrade at quarterback. But they got a tough schedule to Illinois,
(30:49):
they gotta go to Tulane. But if they can split
those games, who knows, maybe they completely be a team
that wins eight or nine games because Main and d has,
I think is at a perfect spot in Durham to
really be the kind of coach he was never at Miami.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Gotcha all right?
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Seven O four five seven ninety six ten Bag of
Doughnuts says, don't sleep on Syracuse. I mean that's interesting.
Like Ricky Collins, the LSU transfer, he's got the.
Speaker 6 (31:09):
League of Boss so much.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
They did, they did, but I mean they the quarterback
battle certainly makes them interesting. I mean, Smoke pointed out
yesterday that fran Brown just landed a five star wide receiver.
It was a Flounder. I'm sorry, Flounder did that credit
by Bounder? Yeah, yeah, right, it's good. But like, I
think their program does have some momentum. But you're your
pointing about their depth of talent right now is fair?
And again I go back to Miami. I'm not a
huge Miami fan obviously, but like, I don't know that
(31:33):
I expect them to be tough. I don't think I
gave him enough credit earlier because some dude named Ramone
is out there, you know, trash talking to me on
the text line right now. He's upset. I think he's
you know, I don't think he thinks I gave Carson.
Oh he's a Georgia Phantom, so he's a Carson Beck.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Stand.
Speaker 6 (31:47):
Is that the guy that said you look like a
hot air balloon?
Speaker 2 (31:50):
This dude, you look like a hot air blow. I'm like, damn, bro,
I don't think that's true. It's like, I hope your
tattoos help you sleep well at night? Like, what does
that even mean?
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Bro?
Speaker 8 (31:59):
Realistically? Yeah, what are your boys gonna do?
Speaker 3 (32:02):
Virginia Tech?
Speaker 8 (32:03):
Realistically? I mean he's he's got to get eight wins right.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
To keep his job.
Speaker 8 (32:11):
Yeah, after how big of a failure last year was?
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Yeah, I think probably probably?
Speaker 4 (32:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Probably? No, it's no.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
I mean you got South Carolina and Vandy back to back,
and you know, when you hear Vandy, you think, oh,
what are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Vandy's different?
Speaker 6 (32:28):
Now?
Speaker 8 (32:28):
Am I wrong to think that's gonna be a game
in the fourth quarter?
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Though? They game?
Speaker 8 (32:32):
No, the South Carolina game. I keep telling people, I
think that's gonna be the case. I think South Carolina
wins because they got the best player.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
I said the exact same thing.
Speaker 6 (32:39):
But if that.
Speaker 8 (32:40):
Game is twenty four to twenty in the fourth quarter,
I'm not surprised.
Speaker 6 (32:43):
And you'll love That's what I expect. You'll love this
because as.
Speaker 8 (32:47):
As much as my anti Virginia Tech, yeah, I'm a
Brent Prye guy, I'm like actually ruining for him to
not suck.
Speaker 6 (32:53):
I want him to win.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
No, I love the guy, I really do. I I
want him to succeed. But if they maybe it's the number.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
They need it bad, like they need a breakout year.
They need it to be you know, not they need
like a nine win season to jump start things again.
I don't know if they've got the depth of he
thinks the roster's better. They lost five dudes, six dudes
to the NFL, and he thinks the rosters better, you know,
which could be true, It could be famous last words.
You just don't know. But yeah, I'm rooting for him.
And the thing about it is like I think drones
(33:20):
can be effective. Yeah, and now that they brought in
Philip Montgomery, who used to run Tulsa's offense and or
he's the head coach Auburn's offense.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Like they could be dynamic offensive.
Speaker 8 (33:30):
It's gonna be weird seeing them be an offensive I'm
not maybe not a driven team because they always want
to be good defensively, right, but seeing them want to
be explosive on offense and try to create game changing plays.
I mean, I've never seen that in my lifetime watching
them that program play football.
Speaker 6 (33:45):
So it's gonna be fun and interesting.
Speaker 8 (33:46):
But I think he's the right guy to coach drones's
talent and can maybe get the most out of him.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
No not, I agree.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
I mean the thing is too like you know, the
only time, to your point, that it's ever happened was
when they had a dynamic.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Dual threat quarterback, which they have.
Speaker 8 (33:57):
I still wonder if Tyrod Taylor, Yeah, Toroka, here's to Rod.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
That guy seven oh four five seven ninety six ten
hit us up on the fan duel text line. I
still can't get over that dude on the text line.
I hope your tattoos helped us sleep at night. Like, bro,
I appreciate a good troll job on the text slide,
but like, what does that even mean? And how did
I upset you to the point that that's that's the
best thing you could come up with.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
Nobody knows what it means. It's provocative.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
It's probably Willie p on a burner account. It's probably
Willy peas burner phone because I allowed Fitty to make
fun of him and then I did you know, give
Willype's quads the who bawled out nomination of the day.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
I'm glad. I love that he's working out, you know,
I try to be a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
I'm gonna I bet that's Willip on a burner phone anyway,
that or a dude named Ramone. I'm not sure yet.
All right, let's go to smoke on the headlights are
an interesting report from Andrew Marshan. According to Marshan, ESPN
and the NFL are close to a deal that would
make programming available in ESPN's direct to consumer product as
soon as this fault. The next era quote unquote ESPN
(34:59):
app could include the Red Zone Channel, NFL network and
more for twenty nine to ninety nine per month.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
How much twenty nine to ninety nine per month twenty
nine to ninety nine.
Speaker 5 (35:13):
For the Red Zone forty app, which would include the
Red Zone Channel, NFL network and more.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
Who's paying?
Speaker 2 (35:21):
How many people are paying thirty bucks a month for that?
I don't know, me, you're not.
Speaker 8 (35:26):
I got YouTube TV, So as long as it's an
add on every six months, that's what I'm gonna give it.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
With YouTube TV, it's like a ten dollars add on
for Red Zone, right, Yeah, Yeah, to me, that's the
way to go.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
I think that's the way to go.
Speaker 6 (35:37):
All right?
Speaker 3 (35:37):
What else you got?
Speaker 4 (35:38):
Smoked?
Speaker 3 (35:38):
All right?
Speaker 5 (35:39):
And earlier today is scare for the New York Jets
as Justin Field sustained a dislocated toe in his right
foot and will be day to day a lot less
severe to people were thinking, But Kyle, I want to
get your faults on the injury, since you're an expert
on which injury.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
Justin Field's sustaining a dislocation. Oh do you know?
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Okay, I'm sorry, I got distracted. I'm not going to
dignify that with a response. We'll come back with up
the show Sports Radio ninety two to seven WFNZ. Hey
(36:18):
one final time, Sports Radio ninety two to seven WFNZ.
And we're gonna be quick about this because they have
been rapidly tearing down radio.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
Row around us for the last fifteen minutes.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
I think the people at the Hilton would like for
us to exit stage right as quickly as possible, which
also is why we dropped out lost power about fifteen
twenty minutes ago. They want us out of here so badly.
Somebody just ripped the power chord and so the entire
row that was left doing live radio lost power and
internet connection. So yeah, we're gonna wrap it up back
in studio tomorrow. Although Charlotte fan on the text line
(36:50):
not happy that we won't be live from the American
Conference Media Days tomorrow. I have no control over such things,
and Fiddy has now jumped into the fray in this
conversation too, So I think the guys in the midday
we'll have Hunter Bailey on to discuss things. And despite
this Charlotte fan, he says, it's pathetic that we're not
gonna be there tomorrow. Sorry, boss, I don't know what
(37:10):
to tell you. I just I'm rooting for your guy.
I think Tim Alvin was a great hire. I think
he's gonna win. Pretty pumped for you guys to start
the year with app and UNC. So yeah, I don't
know what else to say about it. I'd best of
luck to you, and other than that, we'll we'll pass
along anything interesting that comes from the American Conference Media
Days tomorrow, But for now, big thanks to dab Osweeney
(37:33):
of course, to Dave Dorin, to Brent Pride, to Eric McClain,
to Rich Clark, the executive director of the College Football Playoff,
all for stopping by the table.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
Had a really good time. Don't forget that.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Check us out wherever you get your podcast, Apple, Spotify,
Google Search, The Kyle Bailey Show download and subscribe. We'd
appreciate it, and we go tipping our caps courtesy of
our friends at Neogenics, where they help heal joint pain
naturally with no surgery, no medication, no downtime. Go to
neogenicstimsales dot com. Tip with the Captain, the acc to
the coaches, to the listeners. Had a good time. We'll
talk to you from the studio tomorrow. Until then, For Smoke, Ludwig,
(38:06):
for Fiddy and Flounder, I'm KB Sports Radio ninety two
seven WFNZ.
Speaker 5 (38:10):
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