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December 4, 2025 • 41 mins

In the show's final hour, Kyle talked to Manny Diaz about the upcoming ACC Title game, and callers weighed in on a matter of subjects varying from the Panthers, Hornets, to Charlotte 49ers basketball.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Injury law dot com. Still plenty to get to here
in the five o'clock hour. But as you know, as
we've discussed already, the ACC Football Title Game in Bank
of America Stadium is coming up in just over forty

(00:45):
eight hours. Virginia and Duke. We've talked all about it
and has advertised it's time to welcome in and welcome
back the head football coach of the Duke Blue Devils,
Manny Diaz, back for a return visit here on the show. Coach,
It's good to have you back. Congrats on making it
to the title game.

Speaker 5 (00:59):
Thank you.

Speaker 6 (01:00):
Excited to get down to Charlotte and it should be
a great weekend all right.

Speaker 4 (01:03):
Yesterday National Signing Day, you signed fourteen players on the
early signing day, including three from right here in North Carolina.
What did you prioritize in this class and how does
this group help to elevate the roster moving forward.

Speaker 6 (01:15):
It was a really small class for us. We went
big last year. We didn't have very many scholarships to
give the high school guys, so that allows us to
be very selective and they continue to look for the
type of guys that really, you know, feed into our
culture here and you know, like every coach to the coritter,
you're going to say, we really liked what we signed.

Speaker 4 (01:32):
There was a quote from you yesterday where I believe
you said that the Duke football brand is now attached
to winning again. How maybe have you seen that reflected
in the locker room and around campus and especially on
the recruiting trail.

Speaker 6 (01:44):
Well, you got to think about it now. I mean,
like I said, these kids that were been in high
school for the last four years, all they know is
Duke is winning, and so now they want to really
be a part of that. So it just changes. You know,
We've always been to school where you know, the kids
know they can to lead academics in life after football,
But now the idea that you can compete for championships
and and and get prepared for the National Football League.

(02:07):
That's you know, that's the total package.

Speaker 5 (02:09):
All right.

Speaker 4 (02:10):
So yesterday on the show, I talked to Michael Strickland,
the senior Associate Commissioner for ACC Football, and I brought
up the somewhat convoluted tiebreaker rule that got you into
the title game this Saturday. You know, he said the
conference would likely address that, take an additional look at
that this upcoming offseason. Clearly there's been criticism of how
you got into the game. What are your thoughts on that?

Speaker 6 (02:29):
Well, it's it's funny to me. It's the most objective way, right, right,
once there's no head to head, right, I mean, the
most objective way is who played the hardest schedule?

Speaker 7 (02:39):
Right?

Speaker 6 (02:39):
All the teams that have six wins, our six were
against the tougher teams than anybody else is six. So
it's so bizarre to me. We live in a world
where everybody complains about the subjective rankings. Right, we're all
going to yellings came about the CFP rankings, and here
in a league we have as much as possible, we
try to make it as objective as possible. And that
objective measure pointed towards Duke, which means that our guys

(03:02):
earned it. We won our six games against the tougher teams,
and many of us won our six games. So any
way you change a tie break er, someone's gonna fuss.
But to me, the more we make it about you know,
who did what on the field, I think the better
off we all are.

Speaker 4 (03:14):
Okay, I'm an ACC guy, I'm an ACC alumnus root
for the conference by and large, so I can be
a little defensive of this conference too, But what do
you think of the way that the ACC is being
discussed week by week, you know, by the committee, by
the media, and the folks in the immediate orbit of
this college football playoff decision making.

Speaker 6 (03:32):
Yeah, for sure doesn't get the respect it deserves. I've
said it, Miami should be in the playoff. I don't
know why Miami's you know, again, we talk about their
losses to Louisville and SMU as if those are two
terrible teams, two outstanding teams, And you know, it's it's
just simple to me, the the body of work across

(03:53):
this league. It's a very strong league. And as I mentioned,
the AC champion champion will be in the Collegeable Playoffs.

Speaker 4 (03:59):
Well, well, you've said publicly that if Duke wins the
ACC Championship, your team belongs in the College Football Playoff.
If you could make that pitch personally to the committee,
like what do you want them? What do you want
people to know about or understand about, who you played,
how you played in the strength of your schedule.

Speaker 6 (04:15):
Saturday will be our tenthow eligible opponent that we've played against, right,
I mean, even our losses are to teams with ten wins,
ten wins, nine wins, nine wins, and eight wins. We've
played a very very difficult schedule. No one else who's
played as many Bowl teams as we have is even
both eligible. There's only five teams that played nine Bow
eligible teams or more. The rest of them are not
even Bowl eligible. And so to have a quality win,

(04:39):
which we would be of course by what you're suggesting
on Saturday would be the quality win. Those those are
just wins better than anybody in the other group of
five conferences would be able to match. And I've got
a lot of respect for those teams and their coaches
and how they do it. But you know, you go
six to two in this league you've done something. You

(05:00):
win a championship game, you've really done something. And that's
just you know, that's that's what that's what it's all about.

Speaker 4 (05:05):
Manny Diaz, head football coach Duke Blue Devils in the
ACC title game on Saturday here with us on the
hot line. You know, this playoff is supposed to reward
champions and strong scheduling. How important is it for you know,
college football long term? The teams like yours, who you know,
I'm sure you argue, didn't duck anybody, aren't punished for
playing strong schedules, for playing real competition.

Speaker 6 (05:24):
Yeah, it's it's immensely important that the champions are awarded.
The only thing, again that we have an objective measure of,
is conference champions. Everything else is a beauty pageant. So
this ninety three team better than that ten and two
team and whatever. So the fairest competition we still have
right now is conference leagues. Unfortunately, they've gotten so big
you're gonna lead to tiebreakers like what we have. But

(05:46):
but and that's why we've got to it's gotta be
more about conference champions about more about who comes out
of the conferences, and less about what committees decide.

Speaker 4 (05:53):
You've mentioned already a couple of times the need for
improved execution against Virginia this time right, based on the
last meeting, they got the win, And what are those
biggest adjustments that you that you need to make this
time around to flip that result in the title game.

Speaker 6 (06:05):
On offense, we have to run the ball better. We
got to play better upfront, and they really did a
good job against our front, and then and then defentsually,
it's just third downs. This is an elite third down offense.
We've got them into many, many third downs. But you know, again,
Morris is an outstanding quarterback and they were able to
stay on the field and control the game with their offense.

Speaker 4 (06:25):
As a lot of coaches would like, it seems like
your team is coming together over the last month. What
is it you like the most, not only about the
way you've played overall, but the way your locker room
is operating, practice is going day by day.

Speaker 6 (06:36):
What I like is we're learning. We're learning how to
win on the stage. We're learning how to win these
type of games. We're learning how to be just be
ourselves and trust ourselves in these environments. I keep saying,
we want due to be a program that when the
other team plays well, we still have a chance to win.
We don't need our opponent to mess it up. And
that's a learned skill and I'm really proud of our

(06:57):
of our leadership of persevering what we've been through this year.

Speaker 4 (07:01):
So you're in the title game. You've been talking about
this since the summer, since training camp. This was the
goal probably on the wall somewhere. Football teams talk about
wanting to go one tozer each week. Everything's the same,
it's got to be the same preparation, the same process,
all those things.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
But it is a title game.

Speaker 4 (07:15):
Any different messaging, any different way you're framing things for
your team this week, how do you mentally get them
prepared for this opportunity.

Speaker 6 (07:21):
Oh, they know what's at stake, I mean, no different
than you know, we were playing for the bell two
weeks ago. We were playing for the state chamionship last week,
so they're aware of that. But they also know that
it's all about winning a football game. And what wins
the game, you know, protecting the ball, taking it away,
possession downs, I mean, running the ball, stopping the run.

(07:44):
So it's pretty simple. You know, you gotta you'll manage,
You'll be aware of the emotions, but then it's just
the football game after that.

Speaker 4 (07:51):
I've watched a lot of your games this year. I've
seen a lot of your players make big plays, but
as the coach seeing them every day, who's made the
biggest strides? Who are those players you point to us
having the biggest in terms of development.

Speaker 6 (08:01):
Well, we've got some, you know, baptists by fire. Defensively
this year, we've had a lot of young guys that
have stepped up for us and to play some roles.
So been proud of them in that regard. You know,
Luke Moregott jumping in a middle linebacker at the injury
of Nick Morris has been one of our stories of
our season.

Speaker 4 (08:21):
Many DZ head football coach Duke Blue devils with us.
They're in the title game Saturday night, Bank of America
Stadium against the Wahoos and looking forward to thanks.

Speaker 6 (08:29):
For having me on. Excited to get down there, they go.

Speaker 4 (08:32):
Many das hanging out with us on the hot line
seven oh four, five, seven ninety six to ten. Hit
us up with your thoughts, west side, Randy said, respect,
you're a five lost team, win or lose you're not
getting in offense.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
Only call him a clown. Wow.

Speaker 4 (08:45):
So this clown lost to G five members, to Lane
and Yukon. So what is he talking about? Bleeping on
the G five?

Speaker 3 (08:53):
You know? Okay, speaking of the G five.

Speaker 4 (08:56):
All right, this will upset some people, but I didn't
say it Tom Logan, Bill did Tom? I'm Logan Bill
ESPN ACC Network join Mack and Bone on Tuesday, said
he doesn't understand the inclusion of group of five teams
in the college football playoffs.

Speaker 8 (09:09):
I don't understand this inclusion of the group of five.

Speaker 5 (09:12):
Side of things.

Speaker 7 (09:13):
It's just not the same level of football. It's not
I'm sorry, and you're not playing the schedule that these
other guys are playing, because if you were, if jan
U was playing in any powerful conference, you'd be calling
eight and four a great year.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
But we wouldn't be having a discussion about a college
football playoff. And you can say the same thing about TULANEA,
the same thing about North Texas. And so let's create
a group of five national championship playoff bracket.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
That's interesting.

Speaker 8 (09:42):
Let's let them go battle it out, But we're excluding
better college football teams and excellence for inclusion of a
group of five conference champer in this cycle potentially two
all right, so you.

Speaker 4 (09:59):
Know, let's just scrap it. Doesn't understand why the G
five even is allowed to play with the big boys
for the college football playoffs. One of the things that
jumped into my head too, and I'm gonna take your
phone calls here in a second, but one of the
things that jumped in my mind too is we've been debating,
you know, Notre Dame versus Miami and head to head
and who has better wins and who has the worst
losses and things like that. You know, people will tell you, well,

(10:21):
Miami's had Miami had a couple of bad losses to
SMU and to Louisville. Well, as you and I pointed
out yesterday, and David Hale of ESPN was the first
person to point this out, those two games, those two
teams rather SMU and Louisville would be the fourth and
fifth hardest games on Notre Dame schedule had they played them, okay,
and also Louisville the quote unquote bad loss that Miami took.

(10:45):
And everybody knows I'm not in the mind for the
furthest thing from a Miami apologist. But that Louisville team
that's apparently so awful, didn't they handle JMU earlier this year?

Speaker 5 (10:54):
Smoke?

Speaker 3 (10:55):
Didn't Louisville handle JMU at home?

Speaker 5 (10:57):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (10:57):
They did. They won by two.

Speaker 9 (10:59):
It was a close game, but they won by eventually
by two touchdowns, right, So.

Speaker 4 (11:02):
I mean it was more competitive throughout than two touchdowns,
grant you that. But Louisville beat JMU earlier this year.
I just want to point that out. The potential college
football playoff team in JMU at eleven and one, Louisville
beat them by two touchdowns in Louisville, what a month
and a half ago. But we're supposed to believe that
the Louisville loss from Miami is just this dreadful, inexcusable,

(11:24):
unacceptable loss by the Miami Hurricanes.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
So just want to throw that out there.

Speaker 4 (11:29):
You rolled your eyes when Lougan Bill said group of
five national championship. You're vehemently opposed to that. Yeah, yeah,
I'm opposed to that. They deserve a spot at the table.

Speaker 9 (11:37):
Two, Okay, because we've seen if the group of five
is so bad and just such a barren wasteland, why
do every single year we see all these SEC schools,
all these Big ten schools, all of these Big twelve schools,
acc the whole gamut. Why did they go after their
coaches every single year? Why did they go after their
players every single year? Look, I get it, they may

(11:58):
not have the best death and most of it time
you're supposed to win. Well, if you don't want them there,
then why are you so scared to play them because
you're coming to coff scared? Make an excuses every single year.
I don't want to play them there. I don't want
to do that. Now they'll deserve it. No, if you're
so damn better prove it every single year and this
won't be a problem.

Speaker 4 (12:16):
Yeah, I mean Duke's non con but they got handled
by Illinois in the second half. YEP lost to Tulane,
lost to Yukon. Okay, Yukon's no joke. But like, I
won't say that Duke scheduled incredibly tough. But you know
that was a pretty good non conference schedule. I don't
think they could have foreseen what Tulane was when they
put that game on the schedule to be out there.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
They didn't expect Jake Rreetzlov to be there.

Speaker 9 (12:40):
Because Jake was Originally Jake didn't get to Tulane until
like June, So honestly, no one expected Jake Rrettzlaw for
Too Lane to be a playoff contender, And if they
didn't have Jake, I don't think they would be.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
But they are.

Speaker 9 (12:54):
They're in the American Conference Championship game, and they're likely
the best team of the group of five to get
into YE. So you know, sometimes you just can't foresee
what's happened, but I will say it is Kyle it
it's also pretty damning. But this year was probably the
hardest non con schedule Duke's had in.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
A long time.

Speaker 9 (13:12):
Yeah, because usually it be Elon like they had, and
then they played someone like Lamar. They'd have their yearly
matchup with Northwestern, which Northwestern's not bad, but they're also
not great enough to be scared of, and then they'd
throw in maybe one group of five school that you
wouldn't think of off the top of your head, like
ball State that beat their non con schedule. So, just

(13:35):
like basketball, their football non con schedule has gotten a
little bit tougher, but it's still not the greatest. But
for Duke, it's a good challenge because Illinois came into
this year ranked. They weren't as good as people were expecting,
but they Illinois is still an eight win team into
Big Ten, and you know two lanes were likely going
to b D Group of Five Champions representative at least.

Speaker 4 (13:55):
So yeah, no, here, mccaukey just said, hearing all this
mess about college football these days makes me happy. My
dad raised me to only care about the NFL. That's
a weird take on this. I got to be honest
with you, Like, outside of the way the committee's handling
the seating of the playoffs, what hasn't been great about
the college football season?

Speaker 3 (14:11):
Season was great.

Speaker 4 (14:12):
I mean the record ratings sam can be said about
the NFL, but you know, people are watching college football
at a record clip. I think the games have been great.
You know, the biggest issue right now is we're in
the second year of a twelve team playoff. Nobody knows
if it's staying at twelve teams with bloated conferences, With
bloated conferences and a committee that's relying very heavily on
the eye test and a lot of subjectivity in a
way that I think makes a lot of people uncomfortable.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
And honestly it hasn't been mentioned. So I do want
to mention this.

Speaker 9 (14:36):
Am I the only one that's getting the feeling that
the last two years and people are notified kind of
looking at how bloated all these conferences are is eventually
going to help the ACC stay alive in the next decade.
Think about it, because what are the complaints right now?
Conferences are way too bloated. And if teams like Clemson
and Florida State, you know, the whole thing in premise
was two three years ago. Oh, they're definitely gonna leave,

(14:59):
are they, because where they're going to go to. The
SEC's two bloated right now. The Big ten's two bloated
right now. And I feel like we're gonna get to
a point where all sides are probably gonna agree. You know,
it's probably just best if we just stay at where
we're at right now, because we're already bloated enough as
it is.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
Let's just not mess up what we have.

Speaker 4 (15:17):
Okay, seven oh four, five, seven ninety six, ten, We'll
hold it right there, we'll come back. We'll take some
phone calls. Carolina Jay's up first. On the other side.
I've got some lines open if you want to chat,
we'll talk college football playoff, we can talk Panthers. Whatever
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(15:46):
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Speaker 3 (16:05):
We sure would appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (16:06):
And as always, we are emanating live from the Chandler
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all go to Cvinjurylaw dot Com. Likes the paycheck on
the text line, says those conferences will get bigger and
bigger if they can smoke. It's all about money and
if they can get more teams, that increases their chances
of more postseason action, which leads to more dollar signs.

(16:29):
And he is technically right about that. I think the
world is better with the acc in it. Personally, I
think a lot of us feel that way if we
grew up in the footprint, especially having grown up on
ACC basketball especially, and if you root for a team
in this conference that is a quote unquote football school
or you know, historically good at football. I don't know
if it's going to be around in the form and

(16:49):
fashion that it is today in five years. Time will tell.
I think twenty thirty one is the year that we're
all kind of looking at right now. But I do
think there's a good show. I think there's a strong
chance that it will be because I don't know that
you're right likes the paycheck. It does benefit those conferences
to get bigger in the way that you're talking about,
But does it benefit all of these schools to be
absorbed into that Maybe for some of them. Maybe if

(17:11):
we get to a place where TV executives and these
TV companies and you know, streaming platforms are telling these leagues, hey,
there's only enough money for us to you know, really
dish out big time dollars to three conferences. You know,
maybe if we get to that point, that's what we're
talking about. But I don't know if we get to
that point, because live sports on TV are still the
most valuable things that people are watching, and it's why

(17:32):
these costs, the cost of them, keep going up, and
why salary cap numbers keep going up, especially in the NFL,
and you know even the NBA, where domestically ratings are
down and viewership is down, but globally the NBA is
doing pretty well and they just signed a big, massive
TV deal, so there's a lot at play there. But yeah,
it's hard to argue that these conferences do feel a

(17:53):
little bit bloated. You know, when we went away from
the divisional structure a couple of years ago, you know,
the ACC Atlantic and a lot of folks were ready
for that. In hindsight, was that the right thing to do?

Speaker 6 (18:04):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (18:05):
I mean we talked about it yesterday with Michael Strickland.
A lot of times we want change as fans, but
sometimes we get that change, and in hindsight it might
not always be for the best. I'll have the committee
now we're too subjective and people want the BCS computers
back to fill out the twelve team bracket for this
college football playoffs. So there's a lot Let's take some
phone calls. Who do we go to next?

Speaker 6 (18:25):
Here?

Speaker 3 (18:25):
What we got Greg wants to talk Duke football. I'm
gonna let him.

Speaker 6 (18:28):
Greg.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
What's going on?

Speaker 10 (18:29):
How you doing?

Speaker 6 (18:30):
Man?

Speaker 3 (18:31):
Good?

Speaker 6 (18:32):
Hey?

Speaker 10 (18:32):
All these people calling in about my Blue Devils. I
wonder where they were at Virgin of the year two thousand. Well,
we only got the net to the championship game in
two thousand and thirteen, and that's when we played Johnny
Run there in the Super Bowl. And Dave's tip plier

(18:56):
is to create on the modern Duke.

Speaker 6 (19:01):
Take you.

Speaker 4 (19:03):
Oh yeah, thank you, he said, take care, Thank you, Greg,
appreciate the phone call.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
The Peach bowls what it felt like the Super Bowl
for Duke. It was because it was was it.

Speaker 4 (19:11):
Still the Chick fil A Bowl then? Or was it
was it the Peach Bowl Chick fil A? It was, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think it was the last year before they changed
it and it reverted back to the Peach Bawl. It was, yeah,
but we became the Chick fil A Peach Bowl. But
I mean, he does bring up a good point like
this is still a massive moment for Duke, even if
they win, and even if it hurts the ACC in
the chances to make the playoffs. Duke hasn't won the

(19:32):
ACC since what eighty nine, and that's when they didn't
have career. Yeah, when Spurrier took the photo at the
the scoreboard at North Carolina because they were idiotic on
and didn't turn it off. But i mean, think about it, like,
Duke was an automatic win for the longest time. Yeah,
any acc even in the early Cutcliffe years, it was
you know, it was trials and tribulations for Cutcliffe at

(19:55):
Duke for the first four to five years.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
And now we've gotten to the point where we felt
Duke was going to go. Lot of people thought Duke
was going to go back to.

Speaker 9 (20:01):
That when Cutcliffe finally got you know, got let go.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
But they've made the Bowl game.

Speaker 9 (20:06):
This is the most successful group of seniors that Duke's
ever had in terms of winning.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
That's crazy. Think about that.

Speaker 9 (20:13):
And there were a lot of great Duke teams in
the mid twentieth century.

Speaker 3 (20:16):
That's a guy.

Speaker 4 (20:16):
That's a good point. I'm glad you said that. Let's
go back to the phone lines. Donna, the Bama fan
is up next. Donna.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
You yelled at me yesterday and it hurt my feelings.
What's going on.

Speaker 11 (20:24):
I'm sorry, Kathie. I still love you, honey, but she
was acting like you see it, winding about poor little Miami.
I ain't gonna tell you what I think about Miami
and it ain't.

Speaker 5 (20:34):
A good thing.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
Well you can you called in. You may as well
they stuck.

Speaker 11 (20:39):
Oh okay, all right, well it's the nice version of it.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
Okay, Well moving on? What else you got?

Speaker 7 (20:45):
No?

Speaker 11 (20:45):
Okay? Now, I'm I know football, but I don't know
how the playoff thing work. So my question to you
is more of a question than the statement. Is Okay,
when they are deciding who's gonna play for the ACC
or the SEC or what a data data do? They
go by the standings in the rankings for each school

(21:09):
division such as the SEC and the ACC or, and
then the two best teams play each other, and then
at the end of the end of the days, everye
who wins in the brackets is the one that plays
with a national championship? Am I understanding? That's how that works?

Speaker 4 (21:30):
Are you talking about how do conference champions play for
the conference? It's the teams of the two best record
playing for the conference championship, and then the highest ranked
conference champions you know, get the automatic berth into the
twelve team field.

Speaker 11 (21:43):
Okay, so that Okay, so that was that was my question.
I was wondering how they determine who plays for each
conference championship or each conference division. So that is the
two top teams, and they just keep going through the
bracket as far as conferences, accs and but yeah, the
five the.

Speaker 4 (22:02):
Five highest rated conference champions get the automatic qualifier and
then the committee seeds them all and including the at
large berths according to how they see them based on resume.

Speaker 11 (22:13):
Okay, that that was my question. I wanted to make
sure that I was understanding right because that was gonna
take you tell me something else. That was gonna be
my statement if you know far that each conference stops
playing for their own championship. Okay, I got it.

Speaker 6 (22:27):
Now, I'm on board with everybody.

Speaker 9 (22:29):
Now, Okay, don I do need to ask you one question.
If Miami to suck, why if Miami does suck, why
did he beat Florida State?

Speaker 11 (22:39):
Well, Florida State sucks too.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
Well, Florida State beat Alabama Alabama?

Speaker 11 (22:44):
Well, on no way, it's Alabama suck that first game
like they sucked when they played Alklahoma. I mean, you know,
if you're good, you come out playing to but if
you come out playing like Anna suck team, then you're
gonna suck.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
That's true, you know what, No, no.

Speaker 4 (23:00):
Truer words have ever been spoken before I let you go.
You are a You're a born and bred Southern woman, right,
there's no question about that. I don't know if you
heard our heart question. I don't know if you heard
our discussion the other day. It bothers me that there's
like this car about bless your heart. Do you agree
with me on that?

Speaker 11 (23:15):
Yes, thank you, Cash. Your heart has got five thousand
and one different meaning thank you.

Speaker 3 (23:21):
It drugs me.

Speaker 11 (23:22):
How it depends on how a true Southerner, and I
mean true, not a hand plant, not a damn, But
it depends on how a true southernor from a true
Southern state makes the statement bless your heart, I'm sorry
he's sick, or God bless your heart. Yes, God bless
your heart means something bad. You can come down pipeline.

Speaker 4 (23:43):
That's it. That's it. Thank you, Donna for backing me
up on that. I appreciate the phone call. All right, Donna,
the Bama fan coming in hot. She had a little
something for everybody, right there, Carolina. Jay's up next on
the phones, Jay, what's going on.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
I was going on, man, uh, I wanted to just
come in, say with with the Pro Football Focus man.
I was listening, man, and then when he started to
get into the weeds about how they come up with things,
I was like, oh my goodness. So I was like
I just couldn't take it anymore. Pro pro football Focus

(24:16):
is cool. But for us, you know, just fans who
look at the game, it would be interesting to me
to know who is the founder of Pro Football Focus.
Maybe you guys could find find that out.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
For Chris collins Worth. Chris Collinsworth, what.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
Was it was he or somebody before brought into it?
Came over from from you.

Speaker 4 (24:39):
I actually got it right here Neil Hornsby Football all right,
So there was a data analytics guy who started it first,
and then it was acquired by Chris Collinsworth.

Speaker 3 (24:48):
That's that's the way it went exactly.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
We need to find out who this guy is because.

Speaker 5 (24:52):
I I just you know.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
But on another note, guys shut out to all the
kids who signed, you know, National signing that I heard
they got a good quarterback at Providence date that's going
up there to Syracuse about Fran Brown.

Speaker 6 (25:06):
Then I got.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
Another question, is the portal. You know, how do these
kids just jump in the portal without knowing that they're
gonna get picked up. I'm predicted about two years. Man,
there's gonna be some tampering going on. Some people are
gonna get something something fishy about this whole thing. And
then my last thing, guys with with our panthers, right,
I'm looking at it as, hey, we gotta win out,

(25:27):
we gotta win all all of oh no that comes
in and says, hey, I'm not gonna take against myself.
I'm gonna shoot and I'm gonna shoot them.

Speaker 4 (25:42):
Okay, Jay, you're breaking up real bad. But I don't
know what he was trying to say right there at
the Jay, you were breaking up really badly. Text me
the last part of what you wanted to say. Text
me the last part and I'll try to read it
on the air. But hit me on the text line.
Seven O four five seven ninety six ten, Where's my bike?

Speaker 3 (25:57):
Said?

Speaker 4 (25:58):
Bless your heart has five thousand meanings, just like you're
an effing moron has five thousand meetings.

Speaker 3 (26:03):
Is he disagreeing with us? Yes? Man, we don't have
to relitigate this whole thing. It just you missed it.

Speaker 4 (26:09):
The other day we had some New Englander say that,
and it drives me nuts. It's become like this online transplant.
We know what bless your heart means better than you
do that. People think, well, bless your heart's just an insult.
It only is a precursor to an insult. That's not true.
Like if you grew up with a whole bunch of
Southern women. You know that's not true. It can be
a precursor to an insult, but it can be sympathy,

(26:30):
it can be joking. It's not all that. And that's
all I see on the internet. Drives me insane. Let's
see Joe is up next on the phones. Joe, what's
going on?

Speaker 5 (26:39):
Hey was going on? Good afternoon, Long time calling. I
haven't called in a while, but I just want to
talk to real football.

Speaker 12 (26:43):
Tomorrow's the World Cup draw at Buve o'clock.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
And he thoughts, I know it's not my call, It's
not on my rundown today. Give me yours.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
United State can win the World Cup as a socer,
but we can win the World Cup.

Speaker 5 (26:56):
We haven't lost in the last five five games against
a good competition. We just beat Orgua five one, un
if they can win it all.

Speaker 4 (27:03):
So you think Poachatino is gonna get the job done,
we lose Joe. I think we lost Joe all right, Joe,
appreciate you, buddy. Seven oh four five, seven ninety six ten.
Panther Bow was up next on the phones. BO what's
going on? How's Dallas Perry.

Speaker 12 (27:20):
KB doing well? Dallas is great man, great show. Just
wanted to give you a shout. Saw some of the
numbers that your audience and yourself to help raise the
street turkeys for the community and urseh up that. I
thought that was awesome.

Speaker 3 (27:34):
Thanks. I appreciate you.

Speaker 12 (27:35):
Want to give you a kudos and tip of the cap.
The question you had posed earlier in the show, the
athlete the professional athletes that you would have as if
you were a husband or the you know in the relationship,
I think i'd tell you Britton Erson Britain Verson because
nobody really knows why he's on the team. Everyone's expecting like,

(27:56):
why hasn't he gotten cut yet? But you got to
go down the middle of the field and lay out
for for a ball. That guy would catch it, So
you know there's something to be said about that.

Speaker 4 (28:07):
So you're the Breton Berson of husbands. Nobody can really
figure out why you're still around it on the roster,
but every once in a while you remind us of why.

Speaker 10 (28:15):
I guess that's it.

Speaker 12 (28:16):
Actually, that's like a better spin on it. But yeah, yeah,
I like that version. Hey, and and real quick congrats
to you know the great hire with James Franklin man
Penn State. I mean, I remember when Chip Patterson said,
this is such an emotional decision when they when they
cut him, and the guy said that he didn't sleep
on it or whatever. Well, you probably wish you would

(28:37):
have slept on it now, because I gotta tell you,
I've seen what happened after bron left Purdue. And I
think everything about Purdue, but I've seen when you go
down to the Big ten and it is hard to
come out of that hole. Man, that was some decision.
I can't believe they didn't have any foresight in that.
But better learn and boiler up there, Penn State.

Speaker 4 (28:57):
There you go, Thank you, bo appreciate the phone call.
A couple of things there.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
He's right.

Speaker 4 (29:01):
We a few people have asked about this. We ended
up raising about thirty eight thousand dollars on street turkeys Thursday,
we fell just a little bit short of my forty
thousand dollars goal. I thought we were going to get there,
certainly the final hour of the show. But you know,
I'm not going to quibble over you know, what turned
out to be like less than two grand, thirty eight
thousand dollars, five thousand pounds of nonperishable food items. I

(29:22):
think well over four thousand pounds of frozen turkey. I
believe the number was close to four hundred and fifty
frozen turkeys that our listeners brought by last Thursday. So
I wanted to get you that update because you guys
deserved that. You made an incredible difference, a huge impact
with our friends at Second Harvest Food Bank and with
Nourish Ups.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
So thank you for that.

Speaker 4 (29:40):
Thirty eight thousand dollars, five thousand pounds of food, over
four hundred turkeys, I mean, just a great, great twenty
third annual WFNZ Street Turkey. So from the bottom of
my heart and everybody else here at wf and Z
really appreciate you and thank you for doing what you
did last week. Back to the phone lines, we got
Don up next. Don, what's going on?

Speaker 3 (29:59):
Man?

Speaker 5 (30:00):
Hey?

Speaker 11 (30:00):
Man?

Speaker 13 (30:01):
Yeah, I just want to give a shout out to
what I think is the best value in sports in Charlotte,
and that's the Charlotte forty nine Ers men's basketball. You know,
before this season started, I got tickets one hundred dollars
for a season and that's general mission but free parking.

(30:21):
And it's just kind of said to see people not
coming out and supporting them.

Speaker 4 (30:26):
What not you're talking about. There hasn't been great attendance.
I haven't been out there, so I haven't seen anything.

Speaker 13 (30:31):
No, I mean, you know, the arena is like hake
Pool maybe if that even when their kids are in school.
And I'm like, I just don't understand it because, like
I said, you can't get a season ticket before the
season started for one hundred bucks, which is just crazy,
and you get free parking. So I'd really like to see,
you know, more people out supporting them.

Speaker 3 (30:53):
Okay, appreciate the phone call. Thank you. Don What a
four and five on the year, Yeah, it just came
off a win against in A and T he did, to.

Speaker 4 (31:01):
His point, the four and won at home this year,
so they're playing well at home.

Speaker 9 (31:05):
And the losses, like some of the losses this year
have been pretty close, like the game against app State
they almost came back and pulled off the comeback when
Davidson I remember being pretty close as well for the
Battle of the Hornets Nest Trophy. It's just one of
those things where it's a massive uphill battle right now
for Aaron Fern with the amount of transfers that they
lost just two years ago, and you know, it just

(31:26):
feels like it's an impossible task at this moment with
how things are, and we don't know what the future is. Remember,
this team doesn't even have This school doesn't even have
an AD right now, so we don't know who the
AD is gonna be. And then when the AD comes
do he won't Aaron Fern? Are they going to put
more money into the basketball program? I do think Charlotte
still is a basketball first school. I also think that

(31:47):
things are eventually going to be fined for Tim Alban
at Charlotte football. It's just this year was pretty rough.
They did have a top one hundred recruiting class, which
I think is pretty good, was slightly ahead of East Carolina.
But yeah, it's just it's a tough situation right now,
and for as good as the American conferences in football, Kyle,
It's never really been.

Speaker 3 (32:05):
That way for basketball in the American Conference.

Speaker 5 (32:08):
Nah.

Speaker 4 (32:09):
Toulsa is also really good. They are top that conference.
I've seen a couple of their highlights. They're really good.
They're off to a seven and one start. So back
to the phone line, speaking of basketball, Dmitri wants to
talk about the Hornets. Dmitri, appreciate you holding. What's going on?

Speaker 6 (32:21):
Man?

Speaker 5 (32:21):
Thank you for taking my car.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
I love your show man, Thank you, buddy.

Speaker 5 (32:25):
Yeah, I've been watching the Hornets forever, man, and it
just puzzles me that they have the record they have
this year. What the same coach. My question to you
is do you think Charles Lee is a big reason
why the Hornets are losing most of their games this
year besides Mellow and Miller being hurt?

Speaker 4 (32:48):
Well, let me ask you, do you think that's the reason.
I mean, I'll answer your question, but is that what
you think?

Speaker 5 (32:55):
I would say no. And the reason why I say
no is because I think we have a better roster
and I think we have a better bench. Our bench
wasn't good last year. I think with the players we have,
just give you, I'm just give you an example that
game against the Nets. There's no way we should have
lost that game against the Nets. And I blame Charles
Lee for that for that loss.

Speaker 3 (33:19):
So you do, so you do? Then, so you think
he's the reason that they've lost a lot of games.

Speaker 5 (33:24):
I think so.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
I think he's the reason because I like And the
reason why I say that is because when I listened
to Charles Lee, a lot.

Speaker 5 (33:30):
Of the times when he talks, he talks a lot
about practice, and a lot of times practice is during
the summertime. In the NBA regular seasons come, you don't
have time for it to be practicing all the time.
It's time to win games. And I just think he's
a big reason why we are losing a lot of

(33:51):
our games. It's not the players. I just think they're
not being coached up well by him.

Speaker 3 (33:58):
Is it rotations? Is it the way they run the offense?

Speaker 5 (34:02):
I just think they're rotation sometimes.

Speaker 4 (34:05):
Okay, well I asked him about that yesterday. I don't
know if you heard the interview yesterday, but they didn't.
That's okay. Now, it's worth the listen after the show
if you want to check it out on the podcast.
And Dmitri, I appreciate you brother, thank you for the
phone call. There was a lineup on the floor against Brooklyn,
and I asked Charles about that. It was t Jhan,
Salon Seon, James, Liam McNeely, Antonio Reeves, and Colin Sexton

(34:27):
that was on the floor with seven minutes left to
go in the fourth quarter of a tight ball game
where you're hunting your third straight win against a three
and sixteen team that was not very.

Speaker 3 (34:37):
Good and has not won a game at home to
that point.

Speaker 4 (34:40):
Right, and had not won a game at home all
year long. And I asked him, I said, basically, I'm paraphrasing, like,
how do you end up with that lineup on the
floor in the fourth quarter? And what he said yesterday
was and again I'm paraphrasing, but he said, well, we
have expectations for how we expect to play, how we
expect to act in things that they need to deliver,
and when you don't do that, sometimes the best way

(35:02):
to deliver that message is you got to come on
over and sit out with me. And that's how you
end up with lineups like the one that I just described.
And there were people who heard that and said, wait
a minute, so you're willing to sacrifice winning for making
a point, which is an argument that I kind of get.
But is it a guarantee they were winning the game
with the crew they had out there, given the fact
that you know they weren't doing the right things, they

(35:23):
hadn't They certainly hadn't played well enough to pull away
from the nets at that point. So do you want
Charles to And I'm just asking, like I'm not this
is not a full throated defense of Charles necessarily, but
do you want a coach that's going to establish a
culture that's going to hold players accountable? And you know
somebody said yesterday KB, you're right because you can't scream
at grown men, pro athletes and make them run suicides.

(35:46):
It doesn't work that way. But what you can do
is sit them down. It's the only way to have
an impact to reach them. As a coach, what else
is he supposed to do?

Speaker 9 (35:54):
And I'll also throw my hat into this as well,
because when I look at the Hornets, they've had a
lot of the same problems persisting over the last couple
of years. There's been three coaches here now and the
same problems are persisting. Yeah, I can't blame the coach.
At that point, it's on the players.

Speaker 4 (36:11):
Now you get another new crop of players in here
next year and that continues, then you have, I think
your definitive answer bingo.

Speaker 3 (36:18):
So we got to go to smoke on the headlines,
all right.

Speaker 9 (36:23):
Speaking of the Hornets, the injury report has come out
for the game tomorrow in Toronto's second time in Toronto
in the last month. Pat Comenton, Josh Green, Colin Sexton,
and Grant Williams are all out. LaMelo Ball is probable
with a left wrists brain. Ryan Cochranner after rolling his ankle,
is questionable as well as Trey Mann. And here's this one.

(36:44):
Brandon Miller is questionable for tomorrow's game. So he's not
a definitive no at this point.

Speaker 4 (36:49):
Well that's good. Like what's he played three and a
half games this year.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
Four and a half, four and a half I think,
or five.

Speaker 4 (36:57):
There's another answer when you asked, like your number two overall,
pick your number two quote unquote has played four and
a half games this year. That's also a big reason
why we'll come back and wrap up the show. Sports
Radio ninety two seven w f and z hey one

(37:33):
final time. Sports Radio ninety two seven w f N
z KB and Smoke wrapping up the show. No rewind today,
but a reminder to get us wherever you get your podcast, Apple, Spotify, Google,
just search the Kyle Bailey Show, download and subscribe anything
you miss. Like I was telling the caller, I think
it was Demetria a minute ago, Charles Leon yesterday, really
good conversation, interesting things to say. Always check the podcast feed, Spotify, Apple, Google,

(37:57):
anything you miss, It'll be right there.

Speaker 3 (37:59):
Smoke, play me.

Speaker 4 (37:59):
The Shane Beamer cut real quick because I just we
didn't talk about.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
This earlier, but I wanted to react to it really quickly.

Speaker 4 (38:04):
Shane Biemer yesterday after Signing Day, I had this to
say about signing a new class, but also his frustration
about the season being over.

Speaker 14 (38:12):
You know, as we go forward, I'm I'm sick about
the season that we just had, pissed off that I'm
not walking out of this press conference and going back
down the hall to start getting ready.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
For the SEC Championship game.

Speaker 14 (38:25):
That when we walked out of Atlanta, I'm back in
August after the Virginia Tech win, fully expected to be
back there this week playing in the championship game. And
I'm happy that we're or not happy. I'm happy that
I'm here about signing day. I'm livid that we're not
getting ready for the championship game, and the players on
this team feel.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
That way too.

Speaker 4 (38:44):
I bring this up because I was I'm a big
Mac and Bone radio Extravaganza fan, and I heard those
two guys this morning, even Bone the gamecock fan, ripping
on Bamber for talking about being livid for not, you know,
being in the SEC title game. Isn't that what he's
supposed to say? Like, isn't that what you want your
coach to say? And I get it. I'm going to
get accused of being a Shane Beamer guy because you know,
we have a relationship and everything, Like, isn't that what

(39:06):
every fan base would want their Don't you want your
coach mad that you're not playing for a title, that
your season's over?

Speaker 3 (39:11):
Does it bother you?

Speaker 5 (39:12):
No?

Speaker 9 (39:13):
I mean, of course you want them to do it,
and maybe you're mad at the performance. I get that,
but like, if that's not the golden what are you
in there for?

Speaker 7 (39:22):
Well?

Speaker 4 (39:22):
I think Max's point was, why are you setting that expectation?

Speaker 3 (39:25):
You're South Carolina?

Speaker 4 (39:26):
Why do you think you're supposed to be playing for
the SEC title game. But like we all laughed at
Clark Lee when he said he was going to turn
Vanderbilt into a premier SEC destination and they might make
the playoff. And he just flipped a five star quarterback
from Georgia, so you know, to quote the great Kevin Garnett,
anything is possible. That's exactly how I want my coach
to talk, is that he's furious for not being in

(39:48):
the SEC title game and he's living about the season
being over, and that his goals are to play for
an SEC title the following what else is there? I
know South Carolina is not a pre eminent power or
in the SEC, but now there was Vanderbilt.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
So I want my coach talking like that.

Speaker 4 (40:05):
All right, we got to go, and we go tipping
our caps courtesy of our friends at Neogenics, where they
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Speaker 3 (40:14):
Smoke what you got on, tip my cap to James Madison.

Speaker 9 (40:16):
They just hired Billy Napier, and I think that's a
great marriage for both sides, and I think for JMU
they got a coach for the long haul too.

Speaker 4 (40:23):
Okay, I will tip my cap to Manny Diaz. Had
a good conversation, although I think he might have been
working out during the conversation. Got a little short of
breath if he might have been getting to pump in
during the conversation. He's an intense guy after all. We
are back tomorrow, looking forward to it. Loaded show, Del Curry,
first time in a while back on the show, looking
forward to having DC back. We got Chip Patterson and
Nate Wimberley stopping in as well.

Speaker 3 (40:45):
Looking forward to it.

Speaker 4 (40:46):
Until then, for Smoke Lud, we got Kyle Bailey Sports
Radio ninety two to seven WFNZ.

Speaker 9 (40:50):
You're gonna be dead in a one hundred years anyway,
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