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November 5, 2025 • 41 mins

In the show's final hour, Kyle looks into the Panthers meeting with corner Asante Samuel Jr and if Carolina has a shot of signing the former Charger, and Kyle returns to the Hornets discussion.

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(00:43):
A lot going on here on a Wednesday. We got
to get back to the Hornet Smoke. Smoke, you know,
to lean into the puns. He kicked the hornet's nest
to start the show. He's very angry and upset with
the way Miles Bridges didn't close out the game last
night against the Pelicans, handing New Orleans their first win
of the season. Hopefully that's not foreboding with the Saints
coming to town this weekend. But Smoke is, as he

(01:05):
puts it, looking forward to the day that Miles Bridges
is not in the hornet's uniform, and lots of people
did agree with him, but he also had some folks
coming at his throat. So we'll go back to that
college football rankings released last night, Duke top Texas in
Uptown and also today in the Panthers universe, a Sante
Samuel Junior is visiting Carolina, a guy who started forty

(01:25):
seven games in his NFL career of fifty total, has
been a very good player in this league, but is
coming off a serious back procedure and is courting a
handful of teams. And as we get set to bring
in Rome and Harper, also a former NFL defensive back,
what are the teams that he's visiting, Smoke, what's the list?

Speaker 4 (01:42):
By the way, Panthers today, let's start with that.

Speaker 5 (01:44):
Panthers today and Carolina did get the first visit out
of the group. Herecord to Ian Rapaport. Tomorrow he goes
to Green Bay to visit with the Packers. Then on
Friday he goes to Minnesota to visit with the Vikings.
He takes the next two days off because it's the weekend.
Monday he visits with the forty nine, Tuesday he visits
with the Bears, and next Wednesday he visits with the Steelers.

Speaker 4 (02:06):
Okay, so that's six teams, all right.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
Well, this is a move that the Panthers I mean,
like a lot of teams are gonna want him, but
the fact that Carolina is in it, they get the
first visit. He's played in this scheme before, as Dave
Canalis points out, and it's a sign at least, even
though they did nothing at the trade deadline yesterday, that
they believe that with a little added fortification, some added talent,
maybe some added depth, that they can in fact be

(02:29):
a playoff team. Sitting at five and four with the
lowly Saints coming to town, let's talk to a guy
who played both for the Saints and the Carolina Panthers.
Played at Alabama too. He's an SEC Network analyst and
he's our buddy. Roman Harper is back with us for
a Wednesday conversation.

Speaker 4 (02:42):
What's up, Harp? How you doing, buddy?

Speaker 2 (02:45):
Can't be what's good man? I'm cool, man. Just sitting
outside of this basketball gym waiting to pick my daughter up.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
Ooh, like full blown practice. We've got tryouts. What's going
on today? What's happening?

Speaker 2 (02:55):
No, No, she already made the team.

Speaker 6 (02:57):
OK.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
That wasn't the issue. It's just a practice. So, you know,
the season basketball stuff starting to rev up for the kids,
and so she's in eighth grade playing JV, so she'll
be good.

Speaker 6 (03:06):
What kind of fun?

Speaker 4 (03:07):
What kind of sports that are you?

Speaker 3 (03:08):
Because in my experience, the guys who played at the
highest level are typically the guys who are most likely
just to lean back and let it ride and enjoy
it and not scream at the refs and not try
to overcoach.

Speaker 4 (03:18):
But some guys do. What kind of sports that are you?

Speaker 2 (03:21):
I am totally that guy, Kyle. I'm definitely the lean back,
chill guy. My wife is the one that's yelling, screaming
at everybody, yelling at the kids, and me I just
kind of sit back because I was the same kid
that set the bench in junior high, and so I
have the belief that what is supposed to be is
will be, and that ultimately that if the kid wants

(03:42):
it and works hard enough at it, then it's gonna
make it whatever it's gonna be, and that you're not
in that much control, and that it's okay to not
be the best player when you were in sixth grade,
seventh grade, eighth grade, where everybody wants all the praise
when you're young. Well, guess what I think more kids
should lose when they're younger, because it is a certain
characteristic about you. It builds resolved toughness. It's like, you know,

(04:05):
it's constantly as the athlete when you always get to
answer the question what are you going to do about it?
I think that's something that's built over time, and I
think it's something that all athletes.

Speaker 6 (04:15):
Need to go through.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
I'm getting personal here, but you know, you know me,
like if your boys say, Dad, I want to be
like you. I mean, I know they know who you
were and what you did. They're coming of age in
that way. Do you encourage that?

Speaker 4 (04:25):
Yeah? Yes, following my footsteps, oh.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
For sure, I would definitely tell my my sons to
all play football. And their dad played and played in
college and made it to the NFL four years before
he blew out his knee. My brother played in college
his free scholarship, and my sister went to school on
a scholarship. So yes, I would encourage all of my kids,
like it's in you. You would be third or fourth
generation at this point. You should play sports, whether it's football, basketball,

(04:52):
back like whatever it is. But you need to be
out there because team sports adds a lot of character.
And then also, dude, like I'm may there's your mom.
We pro created for a reason. Let's do it.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
That's that o Cho Senko philosophy. I'm checking ankles when i'm.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
He's not wrong. I think more people should think about this.
He's not wrong. This is honest truth.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
Yeah, you got you got to evaluate the athleticism of
your potential partner.

Speaker 4 (05:19):
Yeah, no, I get it. I totally understand.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
All right, learning for love kind of wears out after
thirty years, that love stuff kind of wears thin.

Speaker 4 (05:27):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
Wow, Well between that and outing your wife on all
the screaming and yelling on the sidelines, I hope she's
not listening right now. All right, let's talk about the game.
So what did you think about Carolina going into green
Bay and beating the Packers on Sunday?

Speaker 7 (05:41):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (05:42):
That it's the NFL. Yeah, if green Bay comes in,
think you're you know, you can just sleep walk in
and we're at home. You just assume that's when you're
dead wrong. And you also a great credit because the
same thing I said, like Carolina was gonna win seven
eight games this year? Right, like that was the number?
Do they're well within striking distance? It's kind of like

(06:03):
exactly what happens throughout a season. Why I didn't get
so caught up on the non successes of the first
three to four weeks of the Carolina Panthers that hey,
it's just the season. It's called a season four reason
and not a game, and so you're gonna have these
ebbs these flows. I like that Carolina did what they
needed to do. Good job by the defense playing really

(06:24):
well in the game, where traditionally you've not been able
to say that the defense of Carolina Panthers has been
the reason why they've won games. And so I like
that as a team you're finding different ways and more
ways to win. That builds confidence going to a place
like Green Bay historically with all the love and all
the pasgeantry that it has, and all of a sudden

(06:45):
you come out of there with a win. That gives
you confidence going forward that I don't need my quarterback
to be one percent healthy. I don't need my quarterback
to be have his best game to go on the
road and win. I can lean on Rico Daddles and
that he can still run the rock officially down and
we got to continue to feed the hot hand. I
think everybody learned when Tuba Hubba came back that we

(07:06):
love Cuba. Tuba's great, but sometimes you're on a heater.
You got to give the heater and so you kind
of got to just continue to ride that hand. And
what they're doing offensively is working for them, and I
assume it's going to work again this weekend, because these
things aren't that good either.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
Well, that's what I was going to ask you, like
I had Jake de Looman yesterday. Jake obviously does work
with the Panthers, but he lives in Louisiana. He follows
the Saints pretty closely. He did tell me that when
they went to New York to face the Jets, he
felt like, hey, the Jets offense is bad. We can score,
play keep away, win the game that way. But he
said he thinks the Saints are a little bit more
dangerous than people are giving them credit for. I don't

(07:42):
know how you feel about that. They're one and eight.
They just traded Rashicha Eat away yesterday, they traded Trevor
Penning away. They got injuries all over the place, and
they're just not very good. Like, what's your read on this?

Speaker 2 (07:53):
Exactly what your last simate said. They're just not good
the rosters, then they don't. They haven't hit a lot
of draft picks. They're in this phase of all right,
what do we need to do to try and get better?
And right now they're not there, and it'll be interesting
to see how this game kind of plays out because
it's the divisional game. How good of a home crowd

(08:14):
or if the home field advantage will playing in Carolina be.
I don't know if that's the thing either. It's really
just comes out to the best team playing, and right
now Carolina's playing better. Carolina seems to be playing for more.
Right now, it seems like New Orleans is playing for
the future, which means I'm trying not to win too much.
I'm trying to tank without saying I'm tanking get a
better draft pick. Carolina's not in that phase. Carolina's in

(08:35):
a rush to try and improve and be the best
version of themselves because ultimately their jobs are more at
stake than what in New Orleans right now, because they
Kellen Moore just got there. Kellen Moore has rope. Mickey
and those guys have rope. Carolina, they do not have
the same rope. It's a tighter lease, and so They're
in a race to improve and they need to win.

(08:56):
And right now, the most desperate team wins eighty percent
of the time in football.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
Rumanheart for two time Pro Bowler, Super Bowl champion SEC
Network analyst with us here for a Wednesday conversation college football.
Last night, the initial playoff rankings released by the Committee.
Four of the twelve teams that are in the field,
I believe or SEC teams A and M, Alabama, Georgia,
Oh Miss. You got six teams in the top twelve.
You got Ohio State at the top, Indiana at number two,

(09:23):
nine to zero. I talked to our buddy Ryan McGee
about this earlier in the show. I didn't see much
that was egregious, But what was your reaction, if anything,
to the initial rankings.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
I guess that Texas and Oklahoma have a better chance
than I thought they would or expected them to, But
ultimately I think both of those teams lose more games
than that. I try not to get caught up in
the rankings on the first week. Yeah, I also would
say that I always look for the team that's propping
everybody else up. Right now, it feels like Notre Dame

(09:56):
is a team that is propping everybody up. I don't
know who nor the name is actually beaten that's really
good besides the top twenty USC team, top twenty five
USC team. Other than that, they haven't won any games
that I'm like, oh man, that was a great, tough
win versus a really good team. Indiana's a team that
has beaten Oregon on the road. But I would also

(10:19):
want to question who is Oregon beat and so these
are the questions that will continue to come up. I
can say the same thing about a really really good
Texas A and M team. I think Texa A and
M is fantastic as a team. But if I challenge Oregon,
I gotta challenge Texas A and M too. That they've
won five SEC games, I believe. But Kyle, four out

(10:41):
of the five teams that they've beaten all have no
longer have their head coach. The coach has been fired.
So did they beat anybody great? Because last week Tennessee,
we thought Tennessee that was a guarantee we win in
dark mode whatever they went to and Oklahoma came in
to Knoxville and beat them. Well, if you look at
who not Tennis, he's actually been as far as SEC teams,

(11:02):
those teams are not good. So who you play and
when you play matters. I think we will continue to
figure all these things out. And it's still three or
four more weeks where the ACC has kind of played
themselves out of the playoffs as far as multiple teams,
and we'll see if other SEC teams or Big ten
teams are do the same thing. I don't think so,
but we're going to see.

Speaker 4 (11:22):
What do you make By the way of well, I'll
put it differently.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
Steve Sarkisian is already lobbying for a nine and three
Texas team to make the playoffs. They're seven and two
right now, so they don't even have the third loss yet,
but you just said it. You think they're going to
lose at least one more game. You know, they open
the season with that loss to Ohio State, but they
have ranked wins over Oklahoma and Vanderbilt. There was no
nine to three team, of course, in the inaugural twelve
team bracket last year. Texas it's name brand, arch Manning,

(11:49):
you know all the stuff that goes along with them.
Can you put a nine and three Texas team in
the playoff field?

Speaker 2 (11:57):
Yes, but that would mean the best ACC team wins.
And so the reason why you couldn't get more last
year is because they Clemson beat SMU. If SMU just
beats Clemson and holds strong, then Clemson doesn't get in.
That's one that's one ACC team and that's another SEC
team in. So it's it's it's just not up to

(12:18):
Texas anymore. That part of it is true. And so
that I think that's what he's referring to, is that man,
if you know it's not up to his controller all
the way in his power and ultimately if you want
to be in, beat Georgia, because right now that's that
third loss Georgia. Uh, Texas has not found a way
to beat Georgia. Even though they were supposed to beat

(12:39):
him last year at home, they were supposed to beat
him in the SEC Championship, they can't do it. So
for right now, I'm looking at Texas as they have
a Georgia problem the same way Georgia has an Alabama problem.
So everybody's got problems, they're just they just look different
in different colors. So it'll be interesting now I understand
start trying to promote or talk about his his own team.

(13:00):
Nick Saban was great at that. Whenever he needs to
go out there and lobby, he's gonna be on game day,
He's gonna be doing all these other things when his
team was just not destineder or automatically punciled in to
represent the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
Roman Harper, we appreciate his always brother. Have a safe
flight out this weekend. We'll talk to you next Wednesday.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Appreciated, Kyle. Good luck to everybody. And Kyle, you and
your family and your wife look absolutely gorgeous in Virginia
Tech and Blacksburg this past week thanks to job great
family picture. It was awesome. You guys looked like a
winning team. I saw that was like that family.

Speaker 4 (13:35):
That's a winning that's a winning god.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
That make that fires me up? So are we like,
what do you think about James Franklin to Blacksburg? Then
how do you feel about it?

Speaker 4 (13:41):
Real quick?

Speaker 2 (13:42):
I've heard that the ink is almost drive that it's look, man,
I think he will be upgrade for you. He'll be
able to recruit, he'll be able to win eight or
nine games at the ACC. But it's also he has
to get over the hump. He's got to beat a
team that he's not supposed to be like, at some
point you got to do that or the you know,

(14:04):
the question will still remain the same. I think he's
gonna have a long runway of Virginia Tech. Though Virginia
Tech's going to him for at least seven years. I
don't care what happens. I think he gets fall flat
on his face his first three years and Virginia Tech's
just going to ride.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
Oh that's silly. He doesn't get the Matt rules seven
year plan. Now, come on, we're not doing that. But
what I will say is he's a coach that has
a reputation of not being able to win the big
one and get over the hump, and it matches the
reputation of the program, so they can prove it together.
They can prove it together. All right, buddy, I appreciate you.
We'll talk to you next week. Rumenhart for two time
Pro Bowl or Super Bowl champion SEC Network analyst with

(14:39):
us each and every Wednesday on the show. I thought
he was going to say that the Halloween photo, but yeah,
I mean it does. There are some insiders reporting that,
and finally a guy or two that I trust on this.
They feel like James Franklin and Virginia Tech are close.

Speaker 5 (14:54):
It made it sound like some of the guys were
making it sound like it could have happened as soon
as this morning, So I thought that was maybe jumping
a gun a little bit. But it's looking like, uh,
it's there and James Franklin the VT. That will not
only be a big boost for the Hokies and I
think we'll definitely like you get a proven winner. Now
say what you will about his tender at Penn State.
I think it'll be the best coach you've guys have

(15:15):
had post uh Frank Pember retiring.

Speaker 4 (15:18):
Oh, that's done.

Speaker 5 (15:19):
That's because I feel like baseline now from Virginia Tech
will eventually be eight wins at least every single week.

Speaker 4 (15:24):
No, No, you're hiring him to win ten games.

Speaker 5 (15:26):
Yeah, you're hiring him to win eight to ten games
every single year and being to hunt.

Speaker 4 (15:29):
And I think with that guy, that'd be massive.

Speaker 5 (15:31):
But it'll be massive for the ACC and I think
it's a jolt at the ACC needs as a conference
to have a coach like James Franklin into commed.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
He's also dominated recruiting in the Commonwealth over the last
several years. It pens to mean he's come in and
cleaned out some of the best talent in me.

Speaker 4 (15:46):
Two, yeah he did.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
That's yeah, Vanderbilt like what he came into to Virginia
to steal a lot of talent, but especially at Penn
State is where he cleaned up there. So you know,
if that's close. Like I've said before, I've got questions.
It wasn't my first choice, but I'm definitely willing to
support the guy. And you have an automatic name brand
who can walk into high schools across the state and recruit,

(16:07):
so you know, we'll see where goes.

Speaker 5 (16:09):
And you also are gonna probably get some celebrity presents
because Keagan Michael Keyes is doppelganger and Kyle. That also
leads me to my next point here, Kyle, what.

Speaker 4 (16:20):
Oh no, what's happening? Well not, this isn't a problem
for us, but.

Speaker 5 (16:26):
Rico Daddle tweeted twenty one minutes ago, starting to gofund me.

Speaker 4 (16:31):
They got me.

Speaker 3 (16:32):
Then you find they find him for the two pumps. Yeah,
they find him. How much do we know? We don't know?

Speaker 5 (16:42):
Someone literally tweeted him like, dude, you said a couple
of hours ago, you're just fine.

Speaker 4 (16:46):
You hadn't heard anything, and he's like, just ur, I'll
throw a twenty on it.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
We got Jeriko, Well, we'll throw a twenty on it
from this show. Will throw a twenty on your GoFundMe
if you start one.

Speaker 5 (16:56):
Hey, hey, we're gonna have to have a two pump
protest out of the doghouse on Sunday.

Speaker 3 (17:02):
Yeah, pumps for Rico. I mean, I don't know, like
Matt and the Hatches and Rico got fined. This league
is ass.

Speaker 4 (17:12):
Well.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
I mean it's suggestive. I would expect that overwhelmingly Panthers
fans will defend him here. But is there anybody who's like, Nope,
he earned it. He deserves to get fined for that.
Oh no, man, I didn't think it was all that agreed.
I'm getting fined too because he or is he okay
since he did one pump?

Speaker 4 (17:30):
I don't know, but like most Greg Olsen was all
over it when it happened. He's a guy.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
It's the hingele Man Kringleberry, the Ken Peels sketch. Like
everybody knew what it was.

Speaker 4 (17:38):
That sketch.

Speaker 5 (17:38):
It made me feel it. I realized that sketch is
like a decade old now yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
And I didn't think it was like, of course he's
he's humping the air, so it is kind of lewd
by nature, I guess.

Speaker 4 (17:48):
But it ain't that bad.

Speaker 5 (17:49):
But I mean Jameson Williams did far worse when he
scored into playoffs.

Speaker 4 (17:52):
What's worse that? Or Randy Moss fake mooning somebody?

Speaker 5 (17:55):
Well, if you ask Joe Buck, that was a disgusting
act from rightdow. That's because you know what it happened
in that same stadium game against the Packers. Yeah, it did,
it did Beard. The States had two shots for Rico
at the doghouse. We get what do we do do?
We passed the hat for Rico at the doghouse on Sunday?

Speaker 4 (18:12):
What are we doing at church?

Speaker 3 (18:15):
Pass the collection plate for Farico at the doghouse on
Sunday morning?

Speaker 4 (18:18):
What are we doing here? Folks?

Speaker 3 (18:19):
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you got about two and a half minutes now to
get in to do so we were laughing during the break.
I'll tell you why in a second. But seven oh
four number just texted in to say, according to my
Facebook reels, James Franklin took that Virginia Tech job last week.

(19:25):
I distanced myself from most social media anymore. And I
say that as somebody who does watch a lot of reels,
you know, especially when I'm on the throne like most guys.
But like I am mortified at the number of AI
driven accounts that display or present as news accounts that
are just sharing outright lies. Like I'm not trying to

(19:47):
get into some you know, you know, monologue or up
on a soapbox about misinformation or disinformation or any of that.
I mean, it's just the stuff you're seeing in the
social media feeds, And especially for guys like us who
are sports guys, and so a lot of it's you
see plenty of the politics politics stuff that's been around,
but like these AI accounts that are just creating stories
out of whole cloth about coaches that did this or

(20:08):
did that, or players that none of it's true, Like
everything about it is fabricated out of thin air. It's
insane and it's scary because people believe it.

Speaker 4 (20:17):
And I think some of them are on the older variety.

Speaker 5 (20:19):
I'm not taking a shot out of them, just you know,
they may not be as aware of certain situations. It's
got to a point where if you're not looking close enough,
for some people, AI photos could look almost just like
the exact photos. I remember there was a whole thing
that Dale it was actually Kelly Arnhart tweet about it.
How there's stuff about Dale Junior on those Facebook AI pages.

Speaker 4 (20:38):
It's like it's not even true. And then there was something.

Speaker 5 (20:40):
Like look at Kyle Larson cons holding a young kid
who just lost his mom.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
It's like, what, No, And then it turns out not
a word of it's true, not a word. It's just
completely fabricat and you end up you end up with
the you know, the same stories about different people. You know,
Shane Biember or Brent Venables, or you know this head
coach or that head coach they donated to cover the
funeral expense is for this person. And then it's like,
let me google this real quick. None of it's true,

(21:04):
not a single bit of it. And so it's all
over the place right now.

Speaker 5 (21:08):
Now, luckily that's only been on Facebook from what I've
seen so far, but as we all know, eventually that
stuff will move to other sites and we have to
worry about that and the fabrications and what's real what's not?

Speaker 4 (21:18):
Yeah, okay, yeah, now I got you. I got you.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
You also played me the Franklin theme song from the
cartoon Franklin the Turtle.

Speaker 4 (21:26):
Eh, it's freak.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
That's gotta be one of the more it's an underrated cartoon.
As a kid, Yes, what did that? What did that
cartoon start?

Speaker 5 (21:33):
In the nineties, late nineties, early two thousands, because I
think it came on after Arthur.

Speaker 4 (21:37):
When I was a kid see All.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
Time Greatest Kids Cartoon, All Time Greatest Kids Cartoon Show
seven four five, seven, ninety six ten, you could only
give me one cartoon?

Speaker 4 (21:49):
What is now?

Speaker 5 (21:49):
Now we're talking like like little kids, because you know,
cartoons between that and like a SpongeBob are different because
if we're talking like, are they toddler, yes, toddler, because
you know, as a seven or eight year old, when
Nick Junior was on on Saturdays at seven, I'm like, ah, crap,
I'm not gonna watch any of this crap. Wake me
up when SpongeBob gets on. But like, if we're talking

(22:11):
little kids, I was, I don't know who the cutoff is,
is what I'm saying. If we're talking Toddler's like Noggin
the Nogging Channel. Okay, I'll talk blues clues, but I'm
talking about stuff. Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, Yes. Steve was
my man. Steve was the man. And that was the
first time I learned about heartbreak was when Steve. When
I went out for college, Joe wasn't it. Steve was
the man. Steve was the man. It is the man

(22:31):
and it still is. I'll tell you i'd mark out
if I see Steve somewhere.

Speaker 4 (22:36):
I won't lie. That guy's a legend. I'll throw it.
You were you a Rugrats guy?

Speaker 2 (22:42):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (22:42):
Were you big Ruggrats guy? Rugrats were good?

Speaker 1 (22:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (22:46):
I got to see the Rugrats Wild four Berries crossover
movie in theaters because Rugrats was still around, and then
they'd have the Ruggrats all grown up by four.

Speaker 4 (22:55):
So, yeah, you had Tommy Angelica and all that.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
Yeah, I found myself having to explain about you and
who Fred Flinstone was the other day. They loved it,
like they were very into it, but they had no
My daughter thought it was the most the funniest thing
she'd ever seen, was Fred Flinstone just standing there in
his bare feet doing his yell. Then you know, peddling
the feet in the car and she's just cackling. Daddy,
who is that? I'm like, that's wow. My kids have
no idea who Fred Flinstone is.

Speaker 4 (23:16):
The Jetsons did, do you have boomerang like the channel? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (23:21):
No, No, they get a lot of PBS kids, so
like they they get to go back to the nineties
a ton, like with Arthur and I think somebody said,
somebody said Ducktails on the Tech Now that's an underrated
all time commercial or all time cartoon. Pinky and the Brain,
Fantastic Ninja Turtles, the og those are great two yeah,

(23:42):
like all time greatest cartoon ren and Stimpy Rocky and Bullwinkle.

Speaker 4 (23:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (23:47):
What a crazy thing is Flintstone is the Jetsons were
actually over the air, like not like Saturday morning cartoons.
They were like primetime television. Yeah, so that's that kind
of shows them. But I actually found out and I
didn't know how much of a niche my dad was
of a cartoon. His favorite cartoon growing up, Hong Kong
FOI really, yes.

Speaker 4 (24:05):
How about that?

Speaker 6 (24:06):
All right?

Speaker 4 (24:07):
Now we're getting Hung Kung FOI Oh, catdog came in.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
Gotta go, We gotta get off this, we gotta. I
just I love watching people remedis on the text line
about their all time favorite commercials from their childhood, because
there's some really good stuff that's coming in. I also
got to mention Dexter's lamp. I never watched that Bluey's
getting a Lot of love. Right now he's getting a
lot of love or not. I'm sorry, not he Bluey

(24:35):
the cartoon, it's a sheet that's that's Bluey. So I
will acknowledge that. As we begin to move on, here's
Dan Orlovski and Mina Chimes of ESPN breaking down the
Panthers win at Green Bay.

Speaker 8 (24:46):
But your point about the line of scrimmag is really
important because that was a discrepancy between these teams. I mean,
the Panthers, who are missing players on their offensive line,
just dominated them at the line of scrimmage. And then
with Green Bay you go one for five in the
red zone. Look going back and rewatching so many self
inflicted errors there the fun ball, they're penalties, penalty holding,
false start, and then a miss field goal.

Speaker 7 (25:05):
I just feel like it's there's a fine line between, Man,
we love some of the designs that they get to
and some of the schemes they get to, and then
are you every single play trying to outscheme the defense
in some very unique way.

Speaker 4 (25:20):
The offensive line is still my.

Speaker 7 (25:21):
Big deesth concern, and I don't know if that's a
byproduct of some of the over it schematics and him
maybe playing too fastest today because of it, But they're
getting beat one on one, far too off.

Speaker 8 (25:33):
People keep asking who are the Panthers right, because they're
so up and down. The Panthers are a team that
can run the football good.

Speaker 7 (25:38):
You stop the run, Yeah, that's enough to win the
green They has to play better up front for them
to be legit all right, So what are you laughing?

Speaker 5 (25:46):
At that's a big laugh over there. Well, they mentioned
it on Mac and Baun yesterday. It was funny how
Mina was focusing on the Panthers and Dan was just
as I heard the same thing.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
Yeah, she's focused that Panthers run the ball. They stopped
the run, dance like they can't play like that. Up
front they talk about that. You know, who are you
talking about?

Speaker 4 (26:02):
Dan?

Speaker 3 (26:02):
I got very confused. So, yes, you're right about that.
Run the ball, stop to run. That's where we know
the Panthers are right now. And we've had some people
texting in today again about Bryce Brice to Bryce has
to do more. Bryce has to play better if this
team's going to make the playoffs, and I generally agree.

(26:23):
Like what I mean by that is there will be days,
there will be Sundays, of course, where Bryce is gonna
need to have a strong outing. That was not a
big part of the game plan on Sunday. And by that,
I mean we know what the game plan was, limit possessions,
run the football, ugly it up. You're not taking a
ton of chances on the road, all right. You're not
taking on the road in windy conditions against a high

(26:47):
powered offense. You know, you put the ball in the
air a bunch in those conditions, Odds are some bad
things are going to happen. Certainly happened to Green Bay
two on Sunday, so we knew what the game plan was.
But you know, against other teams, Yeah, Bryce is gonna
have to have some big good news is we've seen
him have a few, you know, can he have a
few more down the stretch like Sunday. Yes, you want
to run the football and continue to be who you are.

(27:09):
From an identity standpoint, we get that, but I would
look for Bryce in this passing game to open up
some on Sunday like I would hope anyway that even
though you want to run the football, play controllertion, you
don't want to deviate too much from who you are,
regardless of the opponent.

Speaker 4 (27:24):
We all agree on that.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
Yes, it doesn't matter if it's Green Bay on the
road or the one in eight Saints at home.

Speaker 4 (27:28):
You need to be who you are.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
But in a game like this, Moke, I do think
it would behoove Bryce and the offense to go out there.
You know, I'm not going to put a number on it,
but hell I'll put a number on it. Go out
there and throw for two twenty five and two touchdowns, like,
just go have a day in that way as well.
Be balanced offensively, Yes, go run the football. Yes, establish
dominance at the line of scrimmage. Yes, feed the beast.
Rico Dowdle, who, by the way, is being fined by

(27:50):
the NFL it appears for his two pump celebration on Sunday.
But I think Bryce needs to go out there Sunday
and have a game. And you heard Jake Delone yesterday
still pointing out that this wide receiver corps is young.
The separation on Sunday was not great. That's been pointed
out by many people who reviewed the film, and you know,
compared the separation yardage to the league average in Week nine.
It was it was not ideal. It was not great.

(28:12):
But I think this offense in the pass game in particular,
you know, you're at home, You're facing a different caliber opponent.
They're not the same as Green Bay. They're vulnerable in
a lot more places than Green Bay is. You'd like
to see this passing game make some strides on Sunday
and look, you'll take a win however you can get it.
But go out there and move the chains through the air.

(28:32):
Hopefully Bryce can put a couple of balls in the
end zone for touchdowns and they can take some step
forward steps forward as a team. Seven oh four five,
seven ninety six ten. Hit us up on the FanDuel
text line, where's my bike?

Speaker 4 (28:44):
Says?

Speaker 3 (28:44):
Have we confirmed if the Rico find is only going
to be two thirds of the normal fine, that's good.

Speaker 4 (28:50):
That's good.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
I think tarhill Swat earlier, said kab listen man. Two
pumps is two pumps. That's the NFL rule. We can't
go bending rules now, can we? And he's ok. By
the way, the two pump rule is not a real
NFL rule, even though Rico Daddle seemed to be under
the and.

Speaker 4 (29:07):
Some people in that locker room apparently seem to be
under ease.

Speaker 3 (29:09):
Maybe yeah, this needed to be under the illusion that
it's a real rule, but it actually originated from the
popular Key and Peel skit that mocked excessive celebration penalties.
The skit suggested a fictitional rule allowing only two pumps
in a celebration, but when Rico Dawdell did it, he
was penalized. And now he's apparently been fined and is
joking about starting his own GoFundMe to pay the fine.

(29:33):
So we're going to pass the collection plate at the
doghouse on Sunday morning and try to help Rico dowdle out.
That's what we're gonna do. Seven oh four five, seven
ninety six to ten. Hit us up on the fan
duel text line, let me sneak, sneak. In a phone call,
Larry apparently wants to talk about the Hornets, who speaking
of New Orleans Hornets fell in New Orleans last night
to the oh and six Pelicans.

Speaker 4 (29:51):
Larry, what's going on?

Speaker 2 (29:52):
Man?

Speaker 4 (29:52):
How are you?

Speaker 2 (29:53):
Hey? Guys?

Speaker 6 (29:53):
Thanks to pating the call. Got a couple quick things
and I'll listen to you off there. I don't understand
a lot the Miles Bridge's heat here. In my view,
Miles carried the team last year, and if I'm reading
his stats right, he's averaging close to a double double
this year. I kind of label these hornetses and what
if hornets? What f Lamellow could stay on the floor

(30:16):
more than half season, and what if Brandon Miller could
stand on the floor. What would we be looking at them?
With a young talent, with Miles being that third piece
in there. I don't think Miles was ever supposed to
be that one and two guy, but his points. I
think that night he.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
Went off about thirty fifteen rebounds at number three guy,
that would be pretty handy. I just want to give
what your guys starts off there, and I appreciate you guys,
and have a nice night.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
Tgu Larre you too, buddy. Listen if you've missed the
start of the show, Smoked teed off on Miles. Smoke
wants to see Miles dealt at the trade deadline. He's
not alone in that. Some people agree. Others thought that
Smoke was crazy and that it was too much heat
on Miles. Was frustrated with Miles last night. Now I
agree with what Larry said, and I made this clear
at the start of the show too. Miles is not

(31:06):
one of your top two options. He was never going
it was never expected to be. Unfortunately, he finds himself
in a position again where he's been thrust into that
role because Brandon's heart again and LaMelo's missed the last
two games. My beef with Miles last night was if
you want to step up and be a leader, you're
in your eighth year now in the NBA. Some of
the shots selection was atrocious. The turnovers were unacceptable, and

(31:29):
he said as much. This isn't my opinion, I guess
it is, but he also admitted it last night after
the game, told the media it was the turnovers and
bad shot selection. It was on him and Trey Mann.
By the way, wasn't just on Miles, it was on
trey Man two. I had higher hopes for Trey Mann
coming into this season than what we've seen so far. Now,
I'm sure that some of the folks in the building

(31:50):
will tell us, guys, it's only eight games of eighty two.
We're not even ten percent of the way into the
season yet. Let's all just calm down a little bit,
all right. But like you couldn't find a way to
hold a lead last night, You couldn't take better shots,
you couldn't get you know, better, looks like there was
no look for I've realized these guys are veterans, but
I'd like to get con k nipple and open.

Speaker 4 (32:10):
Look last night.

Speaker 3 (32:11):
I'm not saying you have to give it to him
in an ISO situation and let him go to work,
but can we get a driving kick? Can we can
we get some screens, can we get some better out
of bounds plays, you know, inbounds plays drawn up.

Speaker 4 (32:21):
And that's been a problem because and.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
We were spoiled by James Barrego on that front, because
that guy was the king of inbounds plays.

Speaker 4 (32:26):
And I think that was more Jay Treano. Well it
was him too.

Speaker 5 (32:29):
Yeah, I think Jay Treano had a big part of
that because outside of that, like that was one of
the worst aspects of Steve Clifford's coaching abilities.

Speaker 4 (32:36):
His ato's specifically the first run were horrid. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (32:40):
I don't know how many times he had Damn Frank
Kaminski inbounding to pass and he gets a five second
uh turnover. It was awful. So it's just that's just
been a problem the whole way. And I also think
Charles is still going through his stuff and his growing
pains as a head coach.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
You also, let's not overlook an obvious they started three
rookies again last night.

Speaker 4 (33:00):
I know you're not overlooking it.

Speaker 3 (33:01):
Just let's all stop and remember they started three rookies
again last night.

Speaker 5 (33:07):
It's just for all the stuff that people seem to
be defending Miles for it, I should have mentioned it earlier,
but we've talked about it before. We have to remember,
this is the guy that's been the guy that's been
here the longest. He had to be chewed out by
his teammate not even a week into the season for
his effort. I'm not supposed to believe in that guy
when he's been inefficial defense and offense, takes up horrendous shots,

(33:29):
has never been a trustworthy shooter, and yet it is
getting chewed out not even a week into the season
for his effort. I'm supposed to defend that guy when
his own teammate is calling him out for his effort. No,
And that doesn't even set a good example for the
rookies who I think are going to be at brid
spot and shows that there might be a light at
the end of the tunnel. And it ain't to train
in this situation with guys like con Cock and see

(33:52):
On James alongside Lee McNeely, who I think is going
to take a little longer to get going.

Speaker 4 (33:55):
He ought to be in Greensboro.

Speaker 5 (33:56):
Yeah, I think he will be eventually once they get
fully healthy again. But just one of those situations was like,
how am I supposed to defend this guy when it
seems like everyone's defending him. Yet you didn't give Gordon
Hayward nearly as much of the long of a leash
as you guys have given Miles Bridges. And Gordon Hayward
is actually a plus defender. It's just his body gave
out on him. Yeah, I yeah, his body did that,

(34:18):
especially that first year man. He was already he was
averaging an efficient at twenty points per game. You guys
just took him for granted gain.

Speaker 4 (34:23):
He was the contract. It was the contract. He was
making thirty million dollars a year. It was the contract.
And his body gave out on him. But you didn't
give him nearly as much.

Speaker 5 (34:30):
But yet Miles Bridge is getting paid almost the same
amount of money. And yeah, he's playing almost every single night,
But is he playing efficiently? Is he playing good? No?

Speaker 4 (34:38):
Most knights?

Speaker 7 (34:39):
No?

Speaker 5 (34:40):
And when he's getting chewed out by LaMelo for his
lack of effort, was that supposed to say?

Speaker 3 (34:44):
I think of all the points you've made, I think
that's a good point. The fact that LaMelo a week
indo the season was already in him and Miles admitted
this publicly to his credit, that you know LaMelo had
to peel the paint off the walls and tell Miles
to stop playing like a bum. I think that was
what Game four three three, Game three of the City. Yeah,
game three, So all right, seven oh four five, seven
ninety six ten, hit us up on the FanDuel text line.

(35:04):
Right now, we go to smoke on the headlines.

Speaker 4 (35:09):
All right.

Speaker 5 (35:10):
Some news in the NFL. First off, Damiko Ryan said
that c J. Stroud will be out this week as
he's still into concussion protocol after that nasty he took
against the Denver Broncos on Sunday, So that means Davis
Mills acc legend will be starting four to Texans as
they take.

Speaker 4 (35:27):
On the Giaguars.

Speaker 5 (35:29):
As this is becoming a lost season for Houston and
in the NBA where the Rockets are not having a
las season as of right now. Sham Serania tweeted earlier
today that the US Congressional Committee is meeting with NBA
officials today in DC in the wakes of the indictments
of Chauncey Billups, Terro's year and Damon Jones. The meeting
is considered a briefing for members of the House Committee

(35:52):
on Energy and Commerce and will include conversations about the
league's partnerships with sportsbooks and measures to prevent illegal use
of non public information per sources.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
Very I don't get too fired up about congressional hearings,
but I'm I'm eager to find out what this line
of questioning sounds.

Speaker 5 (36:10):
Like and if it will go to all the other
major sports two since they're all in bed with sports
books nowadays.

Speaker 3 (36:16):
Correct, well, come back. We'll wrap up the show. Sports
Radio ninety two to seven wf and Z one Final

(36:38):
Time Sports Radio ninety two to seven wfn ZKB and
Smoke wrapping up a Wednesday's show. Instant replay coming up
top of the hour. Make sure to stick around for that.
No Hornets tonight. They are off tonight and tomorrow night.
Back on Friday for the NBA Cup Group Stage game
first of the season against the Heat down in Miami.
Eight o'clock tip on Friday, and then they don't play

(36:59):
again till my day against the Lakers on or rather
at home, So it's kind of an easier lighter week,
I should say for the Hornets.

Speaker 4 (37:08):
I'm still not making it through Friday. Oh yeah, yeah,
it's the Heat. Okay, that's true. And then I also
hate the Lakers two, and remember they screwed us.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
You know, Okay, you're gonna have a rough weekend. You
get to enjoy Saturday and Sunday though. All right, for
now we have to catch you up on what you've missed.
It's time for the rewind and we go back to
our number two, Tom Bogert. The athletic covers Major League
Soccer and the US men's national team women too. I
think here's Tom Bogert on his biggest takeaway from the

(37:39):
Charlotte and NYCFC series thus far going into match three
on Friday.

Speaker 9 (37:44):
Yeah, it comes down to these are two teams that
are both quite good, and they are very similar in
terms of their quality. So it is not surprising in
any way for this to be going to three games.
The way that we got there, of course, as it
only is.

Speaker 10 (37:58):
In sports, is never played straightforward. The game one with
you Wilford dash, all.

Speaker 9 (38:02):
That looked really constipated going forward quite honestly.

Speaker 3 (38:06):
But then this team has.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
Been resilient, the team under Dean Smith.

Speaker 9 (38:09):
In particular, they fight, they got dogs, so them going
on the road and being able to grid out a
result against Diddy with Christian Khalena standing on his head
like he kind of did, and the shoot out like that.

Speaker 10 (38:19):
Is the way that we got here is interesting.

Speaker 9 (38:23):
But Game three, I think I would have very very
safely bet on before the series started.

Speaker 3 (38:28):
Later in the show, Ryan McGee ESPN College Game Bay
contributor senior writer on how Denny Hamlin's heartbreak this year
has been different.

Speaker 10 (38:36):
Back when the finale was a Homestead, I was there
every year and I remember Denny the really the best
chance he had, which is gosh, almost twenty years ago,
and he just spun out and went into the grass.
And he was such a young driver. And when I
talked to him a week ago because for uspion dot
comwell is his preview, and he told me a week out,
said give me tell me about your mindset. And he stood,

(38:58):
the scars of the past have finally healed because he
had gone to Homestead, gone to that finale with so
many chances, and something happened and I don't know this
scar will ever heal. And it was it was crazy,
but but and I appreciate you bringing up the column,
And what I wrote in the column was I've been
doing this a long time, man, I cannot remember and

(39:18):
I don't think it's ever happened where the entire garage
was unified in their genuine sympathy for a guy, and
that included Kyle Larson's. I taught to Kyle on Monday
morning and he just went and if you read that
piece by Danny Hamlin, all the quotes that are from
the champions.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
Later in the same conversation, more from Brian McGee on
why he isn't up in arms about the first iteration
of the college football playoff rankings released last night.

Speaker 10 (39:48):
That first pole. Don't tell my bosses in Bristol. I
said this, but that first poll didn'tally matter. You know,
it's a great it's like the preseason magazines. You know,
it's a great conversation starter. But and it's a starting point.
But the reality is that we have seen in that
room before, as opposed to the polsters with the associated Press,
it's always seem to be reluctant to make big moves

(40:10):
if the team wins or loses. And what this is
my preseason four number four. I'm gonna drop them to
twenty I'm gonna drop them out of the top twenty five.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
And with that committee, they'll do it.

Speaker 10 (40:18):
They'll they'll make big moves and so. But yeah, I
mean it's it's all the usual suspects up front. I mean,
if you consider BYU and Texas Tech and you know,
Virginia usual suspects.

Speaker 3 (40:30):
That's the rewind to look back into the show each
and every day as we wrap things up as a
reminder to get us wherever you get your podcasts, Apple, Spotify, Google,
just search the Kyle Bailey Show, download and subscribe.

Speaker 4 (40:40):
We sure would appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (40:41):
And we go tipping our caps courtesy of our friends
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Speaker 5 (40:53):
Didn't get to listen to the broadcast because I was
at the game, But the fact that we got to
have a Dicky V classic here and Charlotte with Dicky
V still live on the call, that's just awesome.

Speaker 6 (41:01):
Baby.

Speaker 4 (41:01):
He's a PTP, a prime time performa not.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
Bad man, not bad I'll go back to what I
said earlier in the show. I'll tip my cap to
our listeners, our buddy Scott gottlieb Our digital guru, just
came busting through the studio door earlier in the show
like the kool aid Man. That's not a fat show,
Hesus felt Man, and he told us all about the
download numbers for the podcast in the month of October.
We had really strong podcast downloads already, but we just

(41:25):
had record breaking podcast downloads in the month of October,
up thirty eight plus percent in the month of October.
That's a credit to y'all. We appreciate you doing that
for us. Hopefully it means you're enjoying the radio show.
We are back tomorrow, looking forward to it. Until then,
for smoke clud we got Kyle Bailey Sports Radio ninety
two seven wfn Z.

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