December 29, 2025 • 39 mins
In the show's final hour, Kyle and Smoke start to turn the focus to the Bucs matchup on Saturday, and how college basketball may be facing a dangerous problem right now.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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this one from JJ says, yet people are tripping. We
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sucked for a decade. We have a shot. This is
all we asked for. Listen, you want to continue to
raise the bar. But in this year where you know,
they weren't expected to win the super Bowl, they weren't
picked to win the Division. You know, I had them
at eight to nine, nine and eight somewhere in between.
That's where they're going to finish. It looks like obviously
either one of those two records, and so I think
that was the majority opinion, the majority prognostication. Maybe you
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had some who were a bit more optimistic, maybe a
ten win wagon here or there. A bit more pessimistic.
Some folks in the five to seven win range, but
eight to nine, nine at eight, I think is where
most reasonable people either thought they'd be, wanted them to be,
had a chance to be, and that's where they are
to end the year. And they got a chance to
win the division on Saturday in Tampa, and yes Saturday
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four thirty ESPN is where you're going to find this
game this weekend flex to Saturday, as we all thought
would be possible at the end of yesterday's game, real quick,
I had a few people as we were talking about j. C.
Horn's blunder on third and twenty one late in the
game yesterday, ask KB, I didn't hear the j C.
Horn audio? Can you play it? We sure can. Here's
j C. Horn in the locker room. Asked about the
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face mask call on that third and twenty one.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
I just got my hands too high, my hands too
As soon as I hate his face mask, I try
to let go. He kind of sold it a little bit. Yeah,
I hate it his face mass. I ain't even like
I felt like, I ain't clinched. I ain't seen a replay,
but yeah, I've seen him sell it. Uh and yeah,
the cards badly on me. I got to have my hands, Lord,
just get him out of bound, especially on the down.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
In distance when it happened.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
Did you know against the lee that they were.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Got to Yeah. Yeah, when I've seen the flag, I knew.
I knew it was gonna be a face mask.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
There you go. I mean we had a texture. I
think it was Jason to say, yeah, you can't fault JC.
Yes you can't. It's his fault. He just said it
right there. His hands were too high. Can't happen. Mistakes happened,
but it can't happen in that situation, and it did,
and it cost them any chance of getting back into
that game. And you know it, I know it, he
knows it. He doesn't have to be excommunicated from civil
society here and Charlotte as a result of it. But
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that was on him. He made a big mistake. But
they have to quickly drop it. They got to wash it.
They've they've got to burn the tape and move on
and get ready for this opportunity. And Derek Brown was
once again vocal yesterday in the locker room on his
leadership role this week and the opportunity in Tampa Bay.
Speaker 6 (02:56):
I think my will was just kind of you know,
take what coach is saying and you know, appreciate it
as well. I mean, if you don't understand what we
got on the line, I don't know what else to
tell you. This is that we live for a planning
the league, so to be able to have this opportunity,
especially for me in a situation where I've never really
had this opportunity, I'm gonna lay it all online.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Just talk a little bit more about that, Derek.
Speaker 7 (03:15):
I mean, you haven't been on a lot of teams
that go down to the week eighteen, and here it
is in front of.
Speaker 6 (03:19):
You to be playing meniphor football in December. Man, that's
all I asked for. You know, would love to have
been in the situation you know where we already locked in,
but you know, it is what it is.
Speaker 8 (03:28):
We got to go out here and we got to work.
Speaker 6 (03:30):
We got Week eighteen next week in Tampa, whether it's Friday,
Saturday or Sunday, Minny Caroll, we just got to get down.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
There and get ready to play. All right, that's the message.
Got to get down there, got to get ready to play.
And they're right, get you've got to flush it. You've
got to move on. You've got one game to get
hats and t shirts on the field in Tampa declaring
yourselves NFC South champions, and the entire mood changes if
that happens on Saturday and you get a chance to
celebrate that seven oh four, five, seven ninety six ten,
hit us up. Here's Baker Mayfield, by the way, after
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they lost to Miami, dropping their seven the game in
their last eight, they are spiraling in every sense of
the word. And Baker after the game was asked about
having the opportunity still to win the division, to.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
Have a chance at home to get in the playoff
and win the division. Wouldn't have it any other way,
And obviously the things leading up to it, you know,
we'd love to change them, but still have a chance
playing for the division at home, and I'll get this
group ready.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Can't be more urgency.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
You're literally out of bullets now and out of.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
Pulls, out of lives, and that's all right with me,
all right.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
So I've heard this question asked several times today, not
just here but elsewhere. Who do you trust more in
this situation? Who do you trust more? Carolina or Tampa?
And the obvious answer would seem to me to be
Tampa because they've won the division the last couple of years.
Baker's been an NFC South champion a couple of times.
They just have the experience advantage, and so that that's
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the easy answer, and it might also be the right answer.
At the same time, though, that team is a disaster
right now. They've lost seven of eight. You know, I
know we had Rick Stroud come on here two weeks
ago and say that he felt it was ridiculous any
notion that you know, the locker room had turned on
Todd Bowles. But I mean, I see some evidence to
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the contrary. I saw some sideline dysfunction yesterday. I saw
Bucky Irving and Tristan Wurf's going at it on the sideline.
Speaker 9 (05:22):
Tristan worst one of your outter Like, when you're talking
about the two veterans on offense outside of Baker, it's
Tristan Worfs and Mike Evans, and I prog Godwin in
there too. But when you think of the lynchpins anchors
of that offense, it's those two guys, and Mike Evans
had his blow up there in Thursday Night Football against
the Falcons, Tristan Wirfs got into an argument with Bucky Irving,
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and look, it could be much about do about nothing.
But the fact that you're seeing this out in the
open is not a good sign for a team that's
still trying to compete for a playoff spot. No, usually
when you see that happen doesn't usually happen with good teams.
I mean outside of the rare instance where you saw
t O and Donovan McNabb going at it, but that
was too being too I just what gives you any
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good feeling about this team being able to close things
out when their old fan base wants the head coach fired.
You're like, I don't even Like I remember when I
was cutting up the Loser Radio, ninety percent of that
fan base was like, I don't even want to be
in a playoff game because that means we're just gonna lose,
and you know it's going to keep Todd Bowles around.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
That fan base wants him gone, Like today, Yeah, but
I don't know if I believe them. I don't know
if I believe that they'd be happy or not making
the playoffs? What fan base would. I realize we have
a couple of outliers in this fan base that we
hear from right now from time to time, and I
stressed the outlier part that, well, you know, who cares
if it make the playoffs, They're just gonna get killed.
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I do most people do. I think the vast majority
of fans would relish the opportunity to host a home
playoff game at Bank of America Stadium, a winner, go
home situation in your backyard. I don't care who it's against. Yeah,
it doesn't matter to me. I mean, does anybody they
really feel that way? And I, I guess I'm just
curious about that. Does anybody really feel like this team
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would not be served by playing a playoff game? Like
you don't want to make the playoffs because you just
don't think this team is good enough to win a title,
and that's that makes it not worth it in your mind.
Like that's just to me that that reeks of ring culture,
title culture where nothing else matters. I can't get on
board with that.
Speaker 9 (07:23):
I think losing that game in twenty thirteen against the
forty nine ers helped Carolina next year prepare for the playoffs,
and then helped them in twenty fifteen. Yeah, like you know,
and plus we've seen teams that you know, people don't
think should go into the playoffs, go into the playoffs
and actually win a game.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Remember the Cardinals in nineteen ninety eight.
Speaker 9 (07:39):
M they go there to you know, they already lost
to the Cowboys, and then what do they do. They
go to Dallas and beat the Cowboys and the last
full year to Triplets. You know, you have games like
that Carolina. You know they took advantage of Ryan Linley,
but they won a game against Arizona in the year
they shouldn't have been in the playoffs apparently, and we've
seen it happen.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
I mean, the Seahawks.
Speaker 9 (08:03):
One of the greatest moments, if not the greatest moment
in franchise history for the Seahawks beat Quake. That team
was seven and nine going against the New Orleans Saints,
a team that was the defending Super Bowl champions. No
one gave them a hellabean shot and they wanted a
shootout against Drew Flipping Breeze when you had old man
Matt Hasselback as their quarterback in Marshawn Lynch.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
I mean, the New York Giants at nine and seven
made a march to the Super Bowl. I mean, we
get it.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
Who they beating the wild card.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Who did.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Tampa Bay? They did?
Speaker 9 (08:33):
Huh yeah, Tampa Bay was nine and seven. Yeah, and
then and then they beat Dallas and then they beat
Green Bay. Bofeal all the road.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Yeah, now I'm with you. Let's take some phone calls.
Billy from Gastonia gets the first one here in the
five o'clock hour. Billy, I appreciate you, holding brother. What's
on your mind?
Speaker 7 (08:47):
Hey, guys, Happy holidays with all of you.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Same to you.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
So you know, I'm happy.
Speaker 7 (08:53):
I'm eight and eight eight.
Speaker 10 (08:54):
I'm happy.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
That's a bad game.
Speaker 7 (08:56):
Yesterday, but all in all, successful season, showing progress, you know,
So I'm hanging my hat on that.
Speaker 8 (09:03):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (09:03):
I want to talk a little bit about the wide receivers.
Let's get off of Brace and some other guys. Dude,
Legett is when when when does it become a parent that?
I mean, I hate to give up on the guy,
but he's given us nothing. I mean at this point,
I mean, would he not just be better to leave
Coker on the outside and bring you know, Horn as
your slot and just sit him down. I mean they
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set Bryce down, you know, last year, and it seemed
to help. But loget, it's just not giving us anything whatsoever. Uh,
and especially after yesterday, I don't know what.
Speaker 8 (09:34):
Was going on mc millan.
Speaker 7 (09:34):
I know that he's nursing an ankle, but I think
that he did. He did he have the flu yesterday?
Speaker 8 (09:40):
Is that what was going on with?
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Yeah, we woke up yesterday morning. He had been added
to the injury report with an illness and was listed
as questionable, but about two hours later they said he
was good to go.
Speaker 7 (09:50):
Okay, Well anyway, leagues, that's just I mean, man, I
just like I said, he's a first round draft pick.
But dude, if he catches another ball and standing out
of bounds again, I know he didn't do it this
game because he didn't.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Catch but one ball.
Speaker 7 (10:05):
I think it was last game, the game before.
Speaker 8 (10:08):
He's just not given anything on.
Speaker 7 (10:10):
That side of the field.
Speaker 8 (10:12):
I mean, it's almost like.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
His side of the field they're just not even.
Speaker 7 (10:16):
Having to covering because we're not even throwing it his way.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
There's no confidence in him at all.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
So just just my fault on it.
Speaker 7 (10:23):
I don't know if it's time to set him down
and give him some time to think about some things
or what so.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Well, they tried that, they tried that once earlier this year.
I appreciate you, buddy, thank you for the phone call.
I he's giving you nothing. He's giving you nothing except
at least one befuddling brain fart every single week.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
At least one headed mistake.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
I mean the fourth down yesterday lining up offside didn't
ultimately cost them, but it does continue to drain any
confidence that you have that he's that he's growing and
getting better. I mean, this is not some some project
they took out of you know who would you know
he stayed what five years at South Carolina? Yeah, okay,
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maybe you're not the world's most productive wide receiver yet,
but that stuff's got to stop. Like seven oh four
numbers and again XCEL will be okay, how do you
know that? How do you know that?
Speaker 8 (11:19):
When?
Speaker 2 (11:19):
And I'm gonna sound like a real smart ass here,
but like when it seems like he doesn't understand what
the lines on the field mean. Like I know that
sounds like a jerk thing to say, but like, dude,
you can't get your feet in bounds, you don't have
spatial awareness, you're not dragging your feet along the sidelines.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Then we're worried that you're gonna drop the pass.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
I mean, when's the last time you saw a high
school wide receiver light up off sides because he forgot
to check with the side judge. I mean, it happens,
but not that often, not that often in high school man.
I mean, listen, I think he's on the roster for
twenty twenty six, but he's very much going to be
I think in danger of not making the roster by
the end of training camp.
Speaker 9 (11:52):
I was gonna say, I think he's gonna be on
the bubble starting next year.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
And here's the thing. If David Moore is healthy enough
to play this week against Tampa, I would look for
him to get many of those snaps. I would rather
have David Moore out there. And I got crushed for that,
you know, earlier in the year when I when I
was a loud and proud David Moore Stan. But I
if David Moore is healthy enough to play this week,
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he's getting excel snaps in my mind.
Speaker 9 (12:17):
And he's too, and he has a good rapport with
Bryce from last year. Has to absolutely has to happen.
And I do want to mention this too. I think
I've officially come to the conclusion. You know, I know
Lad's not had the best year this year, but still
nearly eight hundred yards receiving. I'm afraid that Carolina drafted
a Jalen Rager in Excel over at Justin Jefferson in
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Lad mccackey.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Yeah, yeah, let's let's move on from that. Steven is
up next on the phone, Steven, what's going on?
Speaker 11 (12:47):
Hey, Gaby, Thanks Sigma call.
Speaker 10 (12:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (12:50):
I wanted to give some credit to the defense. I
know the score might not show that, and there were
some plays they didn't take advantage of, but I think
I heard on the Mac and Boone show that more
than that of the three touchdown drives Seattle had yesterday,
none of them are longer than twenty nine yards. So
I think you have to put that on the Fanthers
offense giving up short still position to Seattle. And with JC,
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I don't know if he's hanging out with XL too much,
but the Mintum mistakes are too common with JC right now.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
And last thing, I know, you get a good break.
The last thing.
Speaker 11 (13:23):
I know this might be hard for Fancers fans to digest,
but I think no matter what happened Saturday, the season's
was success. I mean eight to nine in the hunt.
I think, no matter what, it's success. I think Dan
Morgan's put some good building blocks for the franchise in
the future. So I'm excited for what we got going on.
And I'll leave you to that, Kibi.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
I appreciate you, buddy. No, you're right to point out
and we have already. But I mean, yeah, with short fields,
the defense came to play. That was a three to
three ball game nearly what mid now, I guess a
little earlier than midway through the third quarter.
Speaker 9 (13:55):
About and eleven, because yeah, because what happened was they
were going down to red zone. Not best kickoff from
Ryan Fitzgerald. So they get the ball because it was
a landing zone violation. Yep, they get the ball at
their own forty. They drove down to about the twenty.
It was second, second or third down. That was the
Mike jackpick, right, It was to Mike jackpick. And then
literally the first play of the second half, all offensively
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was to Chewba FuMB Juba fumble.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Air comes out of the sales. They score, it's ten
to three. Bryce comes out. They're pressing. All of a sudden,
this game is taken a different turn and Bryce throws
his first interception in a month, and it was a misfire.
You know, I don't know if it was a miscommunication,
but it was a misfire and he missed and it
was the worst possible time to do it. Seven h
four five, seven ninety six to ten. Hit us up
on the FanDuel text line, We'll come back. We'll take
a few more of your phone calls. And I do
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want to talk about what's going on in college basketball
with a former Hornets draft pick committing to play for
Baylor as essentially a free agent and he's available to
start playing college basketball now. Sports Radio ninety two seven
WF and Z. You know, I think it's obvious this
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Panthers offense is missing something. Texters are highlighting that on
the text line right now. We've had a few people
make the case that this this tight end group has
not come close to getting it done for the offense
so far this year, and I got to agree. I mean,
the J T Sanders broke an ankle. He's done for
the year, by the way, on the opening drive of
the game yesterday, the first play of the game. That hurts.
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I'm certainly not going to pretend like they lost the
game because of it. But you know, after his touchdown
passed last week, he kind of hoped that things were
starting to, you know, turn on and come back for him,
but instead he's done for the rest of the year.
Mitchell Evans has been nice at times, but he's a
rookie still finding his way, and I'm not sure he's
got any special qualities to him. And you know, Tommy Trimble,
I love watching him block and on occasion when he
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gets his hand to the football, you know he's going
to try to hurtle somebody, but not close to being
consistent enough in the passing game. And on a day
like yesterday, you'd like to think they could have attacked
the middle of the field with the tight ends, and
Mack and I talked about it on the pregame show yesterday,
but it never came to fruition. So I agree with
the fact that the tight end room has just simply
not given them enough this year.
Speaker 9 (16:20):
It's one of those things where we have three tight
end twos. Yeah, it looks likely, and that's not a
slight towards Tremble, Evans or Sanders, but like that, it's
what it is. I don't I like Mitchell Evans, I
didn't know what a ceiling was going to be. He's
actually done a little bit better than I fault because
I didn't know if he was going to make the roster,
But all things, for Day three pick rookie, he's done
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pretty well. Tommy Trimble is what Tommy Trimble is at
this point, and you can do a whole lot worse
than Tommy Trimble, but he's not got the ceiling in
the passing game, and you would have fought J. T.
Sanders would be that guy. But honestly, Kyle, I think
he's kind of regressed this year. I agree, compared to
what he was before the injury in the Chiefs game
last year.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Sure, And I've also got a combination to people saying
things like this wide receiver or this this offense needs
a real speed threat this offseason, and I would agree.
But I also am a little bit flummoxed by the
fact that it felt like weeks ago Jimmy Horns Junior's
role was starting to expand a little bit, but he's
remained nothing more than a gadget guy for them, Like
outside of the big catch that he made against the
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Miami Dolphins and Dallas, right, But I mean the Dolphins
catch was the big one on fourth down. I thought
maybe we would get some more, at least a couple
of more attempts to Jimmy Horn over the top, like
get that guy running a fly route, a nine route,
like let's see how this goes. But those opportunities, I mean,
they just haven't existed for Jimmy Horn so far this year.
So it's not that I thought he was going to
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suddenly become an integral part of the offense. But you
know the fact that he they drafted him as a
project with top end speed and the fact that they
really haven't tried anything with him vertically has been a
real surprise to me, a real surprise. So we got
a lot of that coming in. Let me take some
phone calls here. Panther Bow was up first. He was
the game yes day day. We had a party at
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the w FNZ doghouse and Panther Bow was leading the charge.
Speaker 10 (18:04):
What's up, bo Hey, k B, thanks picking my call? Yeah, uh,
that was that was pretty fun. It was a cool atmosphere.
But you had who's your Bobby out there? You had
the grim DVR Dave uh sight still cracking me up.
But yeah, I mean it is what it is. I thought, uh,
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Seattle just I mean they just put a clinic on
like tackling, wrapping up, and it was just, you know,
our offense never got anything moving. And yeah, there's they're
gonna have to be some things made in the off
season to fix that. But you know, it's not like
like I'm glad for due didn't go to a bowl game.
Like I'm like, I'm there's no reason to root for
the Panthers if we're not gonna win the Super Bowl.
But we can do anything. Just you know, there's you
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gotta still you gotta still believe that. And I was,
I was enjoying the fact that there were some Seattle
stands out there. Money. I'm a simple man, ka people.
One of my favorite things that is doing the Ocho
Cinco saying keep pound, you know, like like Bob Parker
and the prices right are the happy Gilmore. But we
were when we were walking back to the end of
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the stadium, We're looking at all these jerseys and I see,
I see, I just saw a salesman out there. He
had a chat go to jersey on which is pretty cool. Yeah,
I'm like I'm like, can we stop with the Christop
McCaffrey jerseys. Get in New Jersey. He's gone. I mean
you could get a legend like a Keith Clear a
pepper Is that's fine, But the Kaffrey plays for another
team now and it's not Panthers. So that was on
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one that was right with that. But yeah, just buy
a time in man.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Appreciate the phone call, buddy. Yeah, I mean, listen, pep
jerseys are expensive, so once you buy one, some people
just continue to wear them. I don't blame them.
Speaker 9 (19:42):
Hat tip to the guy I saw walking into the
stadium with Wesley Wallace jersey.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
That's pretty good. No, that's good stuff. That's really good stuff.
I also, Mack and I were joking like, would there
be any Sam Darnold Panthers jerseys in the crowd yesterday?
We saw one. We did see a little team. We
were gonna rip him that. He looked like he was
ten years old, so we let it go. But we
did we did spot one out there yesterday. Uh, let's
see Ryan is up next on the phones. Ryan, what's
going on?
Speaker 10 (20:04):
How's it going on?
Speaker 4 (20:06):
Happy New Year to you?
Speaker 8 (20:07):
This week? I was I was just I was just
gonna say, like I was just gonna talk about how
I am a little uneasy about, you know about about
Saturday's game with Tampa. I I don't, I know, I know,
and with division rivals, especially with our division, we always
play each other very well. But I was, I don't
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like how close Tampa played us still last game. Like
you said, they are a train.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Wreck right now.
Speaker 8 (20:32):
I mean, Tampa, Tampa stinks right now. So we we
should come out there Saturday, and I think we should
beat them more conventionally this time. But I just, you know,
I am excited about it. I have an uneasy feeling,
but I am ready to watch us. Like I'm off
work Saturday, and now now is their boat and now
as they are playing Saturday, I'm I'm looking forward to
watch having a panther am hoarded Saturday this Saturday. I
was I was gonna go out. I'm not going out now,
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I'm staying home like anybody. Anybody's bore to welcome to
come over. But it's gonna be panther.
Speaker 11 (20:58):
It's gonna it's gonna it's gonna be.
Speaker 8 (21:00):
Panther hoarded, panther hoarded starity. Yeah, and I'm excited, they're both.
Speaker 10 (21:04):
I'm excited about it.
Speaker 8 (21:05):
I do think we're gonna do it, but there is
a part of me that has an uneasy feeling because
because of how good they played us last time. But
it is a rivalry and our division.
Speaker 12 (21:14):
Does lage other well.
Speaker 8 (21:15):
But let's let's go do this. But I do have
my moments where I hear.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
You, well, hey, happy New Year, Ryan. Party at Ryan's
house on Saturday. I appreciate the phone call Bud Tanner.
The ranter is up next, Tanner. What's going on? How
are you feeling today?
Speaker 10 (21:29):
What's up?
Speaker 8 (21:30):
KP.
Speaker 12 (21:31):
I am not a happy camper here in panther Lands.
Speaker 10 (21:34):
That was disappointing.
Speaker 12 (21:36):
Talk about a party though before the game we had
the w F and Z doghouse absolutely lit. I know.
We just heard from Panther Bow. Shout out, Panther Bow.
I had a blast before and after the game. We
really really did it big yesterday. But just a big disappointment, guys.
I mean, going into that game, after watching what we
saw against Tampa, I was expecting more that that was
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not good. The play calling all game was predictable. I
really thought that was a bit of a regression by
Dave Canalis yesterday.
Speaker 10 (22:08):
I need some better play calls than that.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Guys.
Speaker 12 (22:10):
We've got to find a way to move the change. Also,
I am so upset still about that face mass penalty.
I mean, what a momentum changer for the game. I
thought we had a really big opportunity to, you know,
make something of that that defensive stop, and then it
just J C.
Speaker 8 (22:28):
Horn.
Speaker 12 (22:28):
Man, he's got to figure it out. He has had
a really really bad couple of weeks these past few weeks,
and an offense was just horrendous. Bright with fifty four yards.
I had to double check. I said, fifty four yards,
that's terrible. He'd had no help. The interception was terrible. Guys,
what a game we've got coming up this Saturday. You
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couldn't want you really wouldn't want to have it any
other way. It's gonna be a four to thirty start.
We should have gotten the eight o'clock game. But either way,
I'm really excited. It all comes down to this. Guys,
keep founding.
Speaker 8 (22:59):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
I appreciate the phone call, Tanner, the rancher checking in.
Let me get to Robert real quick before we talk
about something else. Robert, what's going on?
Speaker 6 (23:05):
Man?
Speaker 2 (23:05):
What's on your mind?
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Man, there's one word, dag nabbit. I mean, you know, look, look,
Seattle is a very very good team. I mean, I
think they're one of the elite teams. But I agree
that the play calm was horrendous. The call that Dave's
Canals made on third and two when Brish through the intersection,
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when you had no protection and you decide to through
a five step drop, what happened to a nice checkdown
to one of the backs to get that run the football?
I mean, that was that was just crazy. Other than that,
got to get some love to the Hornets, really really
really really bad break with Concinipuent stuffer Man. Their team
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is really enjoyed for the first time. It's the joy
watched it the play, don't you think.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Yeah, I'm with you, Robert. I appreciate you, buddy. Thank
you for the phone call.
Speaker 10 (24:02):
My man.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Smoke you, you smoke your distracted me. What was the
transition you heard right there to our conversation.
Speaker 9 (24:09):
Well, talking about the Hornets coming off a big win
to spite kan Kin Nevil being hurt, but one of
their four draft picks is in the news.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Yeah they are, Well, it wasn't actually a Hornets draft pick.
The Pistons took him and then traded his rights to
the Hornets. And by the way, keep sending in your
text about the Panthers, I got a bunch of these
coming in seven oh four, five, seven ninety six ten
this story, and you know, we got the Hornets tonight
seven o'clock, Giannis and the Bucks in town. Hope to
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see a bunch of you over there. I'm headed to
the building as soon as we finish up pregame, so
you know, I hope to see you there. Hornets have
won four of the last six. No con tonight. He's
got the ankle injury suffered against Orlando on Friday, and
you know it was a great win. They will play
the audio during the pregame show. But Jamal Mosley just
really heaping praise on Charles Lee and the job that
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he's doing with the Hornets. They still got a ways
to go, but I asked for them to go on
some sort of run to get themselves back in the mix.
They look like they're kind of doing that right now.
They've won four of their last six, So anyway, Smoke's right.
We got a story in college basketball that does tie
back to the Hornets because on Christmas Eve, Baylor University
announced the signing of James nause a former NBA draft
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pick by the Pistons. His rights were dealt to the Hornets.
The Hornets dealt them later to the Nicks. I believe, yeah,
he was in the carl Anfony's that's the one. So
on Christmas Eve, Baylor announced that they had signed James Nausey,
who was the thirty first overall pick in the NBA
Draft in twenty twenty three, but never played in an
NBA game. He's been with FC Barcelona since twenty twenty,
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spending time on loan at two different clubs while also
making fifty one Euro League appearances for FC Barcelona. Two
g League players, Tierry Darlown and London Johnson, committed committed
to colleges in the fall. James nause marks the first
former NBA draft pick to be cleared to play in
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college on the men's side. And so this of course
sparks a bleep storm of debating and arguing and like,
what are we doing here? James Nase He's only twenty
one years old. I want to point that out, but
he's played professionally since he was sixteen overseas. So when
you hear that he's played professionally since twenty twenty, you
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might think that he's twenty five years old or twenty
four years old. He's actually still only twenty one. But
he has played professionally since twenty twenty. And so everybody
is just up in arms about this pointing case or
case in point rather. Tom Izzo, head coach at Michigan State,
this is the quote that pretty much everybody's talking about today.
Back on Saturday, here's Tom Izzo sounding off on Baylor
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signing James Nausey.
Speaker 13 (26:50):
I'm a little surprised I got to call it to Scott.
I'm anxious to see what he tells me, you know.
I mean, I'm not saying that we're holier than dou
Art or anybody should not do this that. But if
we're dipping into that one, if it's like I'm read
eating or hearing, I don't read it because I don't
go on Twitter. But when I'm hearing and now we're
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taking guys that were drafted in the NBA and everything
I said it to you a month and a half ago.
Come on, Magic and Gary, let's go, baby. You know,
let's do it.
Speaker 8 (27:23):
Why not.
Speaker 13 (27:25):
I mean, if that's what we're going through, shame on
the NCAA, you know, shame on the coaches too, But
shame on the NCAA because coaches are going to do
what they gotta do, I guess. But the NCAA is
the one those people in those committees that are making
those decisions to allow something so ridiculous and not think
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of the kid. So everybody talks about me thinking of
my programer selfish, No, get that straight for all of you.
I'm thinking of what is best for my son if
he was in that position, and I just don't agree
with it.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
All right, there's tom Izzo, you know, very politically, very
very diplomatically rather giving his answer, but he's pointed, you know,
it's wrong, it's crazy. I can't believe we're doing this.
What are we doing? The nc doublea's got a stat
I don't think the NCUBAA is going to do anything
like to me, it is crazy. But it's also worth
emphasizing that, you know, Baylor is not the only program
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doing this. The rules keep changing and I look down
panthers PSL. Sucker just said, KB, don't you think that
this is happening largely because the NC Doualea is tired
of being sued. They are just content to take their
cut of the money and aren't going to enforce rules
anymore so they don't end up in court. That that part.
The rules keep changing because the threat of legal action
is prompting one fold after the other. You got Abdullah
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ACMD from BYU, the Dayton kids, Sean Pouday, You got
the Washington kid Nicolas Subpoena.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
Isn't there one from Louisville?
Speaker 2 (28:51):
I mentioned him a minute ago. You know, others have
all have been brought aboard in season roster editions from
other professional ranks. The only difference but between all of
them and James Nausey, is that he was promising enough
more than two years ago to have an NBA team
select him in the draft, even within the Big twelve.
Kansas State's women's team rosters. Nasia Clayson's I believe is
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the pronunciation who is second in scoring on the team
at ten point six points per game. She's from Belgium,
was the thirtieth overall pick. I believe played professionally in hockey.
Colorado College just added the son of a notable NHL
player and someone who's already skated with the pros for years.
And so yeah, the NCAA's tired of They ensued and
they keep losing, and I'm not sure if they have
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any appetite to fight these battles anymore. But because Baylor
made a roster adition with a guy who was an
NBA draft pick, unlike all these other instances and examples,
it's not sitting well with a lot of college sports
fans who look around and see the fundamental nature of
the sport changing to a degree that is just unrecognizable
from what college basketball was for decades. And I try
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to be, you know, fairly forward thinking, and you know,
I spend more time in the windshield that I do
the rear view. But like, is this good? Like do
we want this?
Speaker 6 (30:03):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Should James Nase be allowed to play college basketball?
Speaker 6 (30:08):
Like?
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Do the Knicks still own his rights? Is there clarification
on that?
Speaker 4 (30:13):
I don't know if he got cut or not, but
that's the thing.
Speaker 9 (30:16):
Like, so he was on excursion in FC Barcelona, right,
and then his draft rights, So essentially, once he's done
in college he have to go back to the Knicks.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
I don't know I don't know. I don't know how
that works, and I hate that I have to say
that I don't know, because for the longest time, we
knew how all of this worked. We knew what we
mostly knew what the rules were. Now, some of those
rules were deemed unfair or unconstitutional, archaic, you know, lots
of things, but they weren't all wrong and bad. And
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I tend to agree with John Calipari, as I mentioned
weeks ago with his rant about this where I'm not
really that interested personally in watching a bunch of twenty
nine year old dudes playing college basketball.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
I'm just not.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
That's not what college basketball has always been to me.
And I realize that I'm getting older and the world changes,
and when you get older, you lament things that change
when you don't like them. And but like, does anybody
really want that? Do you really want to watch a
bunch of twenty five to twenty nine year old dudes
playing college basketball?
Speaker 9 (31:21):
Not really, I know, all of a sudden less they're
good to him. The only place I expect to see
that is BYU.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Yeah, and like you can get your jokes in, but like,
I'm good. This, by the way, ties back to Diego
Pavia too. His attorney, Ryan Dowton, filed a memorandum in
a Tennessee federal court in which he cited the NC
doublea's latest decision. This one, James Nagy, you know, is
part of trying to sue his sue the NC double
A again to gain more eligibility for his clients plural
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just I don't know, man. Everybody I've talked to about
this is just kind of stunned and they don't really
know what to do with it. But the overarching s
I meant that I get from pretty much everybody is
I don't I don't like this.
Speaker 9 (32:03):
It's weird. It's not what college sports was supposed to be.
And look in this one in this case it's not.
It's weird. But it also is like, oh, James not
he's only twenty one. What happens if a guy that's
like twenty three, twenty four does this? Yeah, because it's
now on the table, that's when it starts to be.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Like em no like toosted. Monty Harrison right return to
play football at Arkansas after a ten year career playing
in Major League Baseball in the minors.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
Yeah, we've seen stuff like that.
Speaker 9 (32:35):
Chris Winky, Hayden Hurts, So we've seen this stuff before
Nate Boyer, but that was a bit more deployment and
then he went to go he was a long snapper
in his early thirties at Texas.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
But that was a very unique situation in its own right.
Speaker 9 (32:48):
Like, I it's one thing if it's one or two,
like one to five guys doing it in baseball.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
I'm used to that.
Speaker 9 (32:54):
But when it's it feels like it's going to be
twenty twenty five guys doing that to've already been drafted
or being playing in the G League and in realized,
oh crap, I made a mistake. It's almost like it's
now a situation where we could remember Matthew Hurt at Duke.
Oh yeah, he decided to leave and go into the
draft and staying instead of staying at Duke in another year,
which is the wrong decision. And now he's been in
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the June League. It's like him going to the going
back to Duke right now and saying, hey, can I play?
It's like, what the hell, dude, it's been gone for
like four or five years.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
No, Like, what's right now? The NCAA is making decisions
that won't lead to sitting at a courtroom while simultaneously
trying to make up the new rules as they go along.
Speaker 9 (33:37):
And in the process it's creating more problems and creating
more I would say, larger problems because they don't want
to get called once again and lose yet again.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
Right, and this is all this all goes back to.
Speaker 9 (33:48):
You had forty years to prepare for this, and you
decided to sit on your thumbs and do nothing because
you wanted all the power.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Yeah and fifty k final the text line, just so.
The next guy, the next step is a guy that
played an NBA game, gets on a college roster who
Trenton Flowers, the two way player for the Bulls. There
was a report from Joe Tipton of ON three that
I think turned out to be erroneous, and ON three
had to apologize for that. But I mean, the fact
that it's even a conversation tells you where we are.
Speaker 13 (34:11):
Like.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
The next shoot to drop is a basketball player receiving
a better offer to leag leave a G League team
to return to college basketball, or a football player being
signed to an NFL practice squad and then try to
go back to college because he thought he'd be on
a roster. What how does that get litigated?
Speaker 5 (34:27):
So?
Speaker 10 (34:28):
But what what is?
Speaker 2 (34:29):
And then what precedent does that set? I'm just telling you,
I hate this.
Speaker 10 (34:33):
I do.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
I hate this.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
I don't want to watch twenty eight twenty nine year
old dudes playing college basketball. I'm not interested in that.
It's not what college basketball was ever supposed to be.
I get we all have dreams, but like, go get
a job. I don't know what else to tell you, man,
Let's go to smoke on the headlines the bagel guy
asking the important questions. Can Jello go back to UCLA now?
Speaker 10 (34:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (34:59):
No, don't.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
I don't think so either.
Speaker 9 (35:01):
Anyway, Monday Night Football tonight is actually a game of
importance for Carolina even though they're not in it because Kyle,
there is a doomsday scenario that the Carolina Panthers can
enact and still win the division.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
To make the playoffs.
Speaker 9 (35:14):
But it has it could end tonight as the Atlanta
Falcons host the LA Rams. If Atlanta wins tonight and
they win next week against New Orleans, Carolina is in
no matter what, yep, But you have to go first
get over the hurdle of the LA Rams and of
course the La Rams haven't sent him to win this game,
not only because they want to have the best position
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in the playoffs, but Kyle, who they owned, the Falcons
pick next year.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
So if they win today, they help themselves two fold.
Speaker 9 (35:44):
They win and help themselves in the playoffs, and they
make sure that the Falcons pick, which is their pick,
is higher as well.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Do you think the Falcons are gonna No? Okay, yeah,
I figured. Now, all right, we'll come back and wrap
up the show. Sports Radio ninety two to seven WF
and Z. All right, I just kind of got roasted
(36:18):
on the FanDuel text line. Seven oh four numbers just
said Kyle seemed almost as certain of Atlanta losing tonight
as he was of the Bucks beating Miami. And I said, Lol,
this is fair, that's fair. Panthero on the text line said, dang,
KB can't even cheer to see the Falcons pull a chakra.
That was the most abrupt no I've heard in a while.
Oh No, I'm cheering for it, Don't get me wrong.
I'm just not really going to allow myself to believe
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that could happen. You have to trust Atlanta. You have
to trust Atlanta. To win the next two games, and
if they did, then Carolina can lose out and still
make the playoffs. I don't want to back in that way, obviously,
I'd rather Carolina just beats Tampa on Saturday. But listen,
I'm rooting for Atlanta. I just don't think it's gonna happen.
That's all seven O four number said. Falcon's been playing
(37:01):
some good ball any given Monday. Yeah again, I'm watching.
I'll be rooting for him. I might even yell rise
up once or twice in the living room. If they
keep it close, that'd be it would be one of
the funniest most NFC South finishes to a season of
all time. And you know what I was thinking earlier too,
because I heard Max say something along those lines like
it'd be the most NFC South thing ever. Remember when
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this division was good and respected not that long ago,
and Cam Newton and Drew Brees and Matt Ryan were
quarterbacking the teams in this division, and everybody feared the
NFC South.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
Even into two thousands.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, Just the fact that we it's
like the old ACC Coastal jokes that we make about
the NFC South now it's sad. I'm not I'm still
not used to it, but it is what it is.
A few people have said, KB, if y'all talked about
Tyler Shuck overtaking Ted Aero McMillan with the best odds
to win NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year, we hadn't
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brought it up. I guess we have now. He's a
slight favorite based on the sports books that I've seen.
But I will tell you right now, if the Panthers
go down to Tampa on Saturday and win and make
the playoffs and McMillan has a productive day, I still
think he's winning the award, don't you.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
If the Panthers make the playoffs and he goes down
and has a good day on Saturday.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
Like he did against Tampa the first time, yep.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
If he does that again, I would bet you that
he still ends up winning Offensive Rookie of the Year. Also,
a text for a minute ago said, just so y'all
know New Orleans is actually the best team in this division?
You know, record wise, No, but the way they're playing
right now, it's you know, you could make the case.
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I wouldn't say that, but they are certainly finishing the
season strong and it looks like they found their quarterback.
And for all the old jokes I made about Tyler Shuck,
I have to admit he's looked better than I thought
he would, so I guess good for him. We gotta go.
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Smoke what you got. I'll be petty here. Tip of
the Captain, Georgia seven. Way to take care of app
State again. Okay, I will tip my cap to Panthers
fans because again you you showed up. You packed the
house yesterday. The atmosphere was fantastic, but unfortunately the offensive
football did not match your energy. So tip of the
cap to Panthers fans. Panthers rather Hornets pregame coming up
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sucked for a decade. We have a shot. This is
all we asked for. Listen, you want to continue to
raise the bar. But in this year where you know,
they weren't expected to win the super Bowl, they weren't
picked to win the Division. You know, I had them
at eight to nine, nine and eight somewhere in between.
That's where they're going to finish. It looks like obviously
either one of those two records, and so I think
that was the majority opinion, the majority prognostication. Maybe you
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had some who were a bit more optimistic, maybe a
ten win wagon here or there. A bit more pessimistic.
Some folks in the five to seven win range, but
eight to nine, nine at eight, I think is where
most reasonable people either thought they'd be, wanted them to be,
had a chance to be, and that's where they are
to end the year. And they got a chance to
win the division on Saturday in Tampa, and yes Saturday
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four thirty ESPN is where you're going to find this
game this weekend flex to Saturday, as we all thought
would be possible at the end of yesterday's game, real quick,
I had a few people as we were talking about j. C.
Horn's blunder on third and twenty one late in the
game yesterday, ask KB, I didn't hear the j C.
Horn audio? Can you play it? We sure can. Here's
j C. Horn in the locker room. Asked about the
(01:49):
face mask call on that third and twenty one.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
I just got my hands too high, my hands too
As soon as I hate his face mask, I try
to let go. He kind of sold it a little bit. Yeah,
I hate it his face mass. I ain't even like
I felt like, I ain't clinched. I ain't seen a replay,
but yeah, I've seen him sell it. Uh and yeah,
the cards badly on me. I got to have my hands, Lord,
just get him out of bound, especially on the down.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
In distance when it happened.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
Did you know against the lee that they were.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Got to Yeah. Yeah, when I've seen the flag, I knew.
I knew it was gonna be a face mask.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
There you go. I mean we had a texture. I
think it was Jason to say, yeah, you can't fault JC.
Yes you can't. It's his fault. He just said it
right there. His hands were too high. Can't happen. Mistakes happened,
but it can't happen in that situation, and it did,
and it cost them any chance of getting back into
that game. And you know it, I know it, he
knows it. He doesn't have to be excommunicated from civil
society here and Charlotte as a result of it. But
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that was on him. He made a big mistake. But
they have to quickly drop it. They got to wash it.
They've they've got to burn the tape and move on
and get ready for this opportunity. And Derek Brown was
once again vocal yesterday in the locker room on his
leadership role this week and the opportunity in Tampa Bay.
Speaker 6 (02:56):
I think my will was just kind of you know,
take what coach is saying and you know, appreciate it
as well. I mean, if you don't understand what we
got on the line, I don't know what else to
tell you. This is that we live for a planning
the league, so to be able to have this opportunity,
especially for me in a situation where I've never really
had this opportunity, I'm gonna lay it all online.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Just talk a little bit more about that, Derek.
Speaker 7 (03:15):
I mean, you haven't been on a lot of teams
that go down to the week eighteen, and here it
is in front of.
Speaker 6 (03:19):
You to be playing meniphor football in December. Man, that's
all I asked for. You know, would love to have
been in the situation you know where we already locked in,
but you know, it is what it is.
Speaker 8 (03:28):
We got to go out here and we got to work.
Speaker 6 (03:30):
We got Week eighteen next week in Tampa, whether it's Friday,
Saturday or Sunday, Minny Caroll, we just got to get down.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
There and get ready to play. All right, that's the message.
Got to get down there, got to get ready to play.
And they're right, get you've got to flush it. You've
got to move on. You've got one game to get
hats and t shirts on the field in Tampa declaring
yourselves NFC South champions, and the entire mood changes if
that happens on Saturday and you get a chance to
celebrate that seven oh four, five, seven ninety six ten,
hit us up. Here's Baker Mayfield, by the way, after
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they lost to Miami, dropping their seven the game in
their last eight, they are spiraling in every sense of
the word. And Baker after the game was asked about
having the opportunity still to win the division, to.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
Have a chance at home to get in the playoff
and win the division. Wouldn't have it any other way,
And obviously the things leading up to it, you know,
we'd love to change them, but still have a chance
playing for the division at home, and I'll get this
group ready.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Can't be more urgency.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
You're literally out of bullets now and out of.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
Pulls, out of lives, and that's all right with me,
all right.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
So I've heard this question asked several times today, not
just here but elsewhere. Who do you trust more in
this situation? Who do you trust more? Carolina or Tampa?
And the obvious answer would seem to me to be
Tampa because they've won the division the last couple of years.
Baker's been an NFC South champion a couple of times.
They just have the experience advantage, and so that that's
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the easy answer, and it might also be the right answer.
At the same time, though, that team is a disaster
right now. They've lost seven of eight. You know, I
know we had Rick Stroud come on here two weeks
ago and say that he felt it was ridiculous any
notion that you know, the locker room had turned on
Todd Bowles. But I mean, I see some evidence to
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the contrary. I saw some sideline dysfunction yesterday. I saw
Bucky Irving and Tristan Wurf's going at it on the sideline.
Speaker 9 (05:22):
Tristan worst one of your outter Like, when you're talking
about the two veterans on offense outside of Baker, it's
Tristan Worfs and Mike Evans, and I prog Godwin in
there too. But when you think of the lynchpins anchors
of that offense, it's those two guys, and Mike Evans
had his blow up there in Thursday Night Football against
the Falcons, Tristan Wirfs got into an argument with Bucky Irving,
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and look, it could be much about do about nothing.
But the fact that you're seeing this out in the
open is not a good sign for a team that's
still trying to compete for a playoff spot. No, usually
when you see that happen doesn't usually happen with good teams.
I mean outside of the rare instance where you saw
t O and Donovan McNabb going at it, but that
was too being too I just what gives you any
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good feeling about this team being able to close things
out when their old fan base wants the head coach fired.
You're like, I don't even Like I remember when I
was cutting up the Loser Radio, ninety percent of that
fan base was like, I don't even want to be
in a playoff game because that means we're just gonna lose,
and you know it's going to keep Todd Bowles around.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
That fan base wants him gone, Like today, Yeah, but
I don't know if I believe them. I don't know
if I believe that they'd be happy or not making
the playoffs? What fan base would. I realize we have
a couple of outliers in this fan base that we
hear from right now from time to time, and I
stressed the outlier part that, well, you know, who cares
if it make the playoffs, They're just gonna get killed.
(06:44):
I do most people do. I think the vast majority
of fans would relish the opportunity to host a home
playoff game at Bank of America Stadium, a winner, go
home situation in your backyard. I don't care who it's against. Yeah,
it doesn't matter to me. I mean, does anybody they
really feel that way? And I, I guess I'm just
curious about that. Does anybody really feel like this team
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would not be served by playing a playoff game? Like
you don't want to make the playoffs because you just
don't think this team is good enough to win a title,
and that's that makes it not worth it in your mind.
Like that's just to me that that reeks of ring culture,
title culture where nothing else matters. I can't get on
board with that.
Speaker 9 (07:23):
I think losing that game in twenty thirteen against the
forty nine ers helped Carolina next year prepare for the playoffs,
and then helped them in twenty fifteen. Yeah, like you know,
and plus we've seen teams that you know, people don't
think should go into the playoffs, go into the playoffs
and actually win a game.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Remember the Cardinals in nineteen ninety eight.
Speaker 9 (07:39):
M they go there to you know, they already lost
to the Cowboys, and then what do they do. They
go to Dallas and beat the Cowboys and the last
full year to Triplets. You know, you have games like
that Carolina. You know they took advantage of Ryan Linley,
but they won a game against Arizona in the year
they shouldn't have been in the playoffs apparently, and we've
seen it happen.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
I mean, the Seahawks.
Speaker 9 (08:03):
One of the greatest moments, if not the greatest moment
in franchise history for the Seahawks beat Quake. That team
was seven and nine going against the New Orleans Saints,
a team that was the defending Super Bowl champions. No
one gave them a hellabean shot and they wanted a
shootout against Drew Flipping Breeze when you had old man
Matt Hasselback as their quarterback in Marshawn Lynch.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
I mean, the New York Giants at nine and seven
made a march to the Super Bowl. I mean, we
get it.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
Who they beating the wild card.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Who did.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Tampa Bay? They did?
Speaker 9 (08:33):
Huh yeah, Tampa Bay was nine and seven. Yeah, and
then and then they beat Dallas and then they beat
Green Bay. Bofeal all the road.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Yeah, now I'm with you. Let's take some phone calls.
Billy from Gastonia gets the first one here in the
five o'clock hour. Billy, I appreciate you, holding brother. What's
on your mind?
Speaker 7 (08:47):
Hey, guys, Happy holidays with all of you.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Same to you.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
So you know, I'm happy.
Speaker 7 (08:53):
I'm eight and eight eight.
Speaker 10 (08:54):
I'm happy.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
That's a bad game.
Speaker 7 (08:56):
Yesterday, but all in all, successful season, showing progress, you know,
So I'm hanging my hat on that.
Speaker 8 (09:03):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (09:03):
I want to talk a little bit about the wide receivers.
Let's get off of Brace and some other guys. Dude,
Legett is when when when does it become a parent that?
I mean, I hate to give up on the guy,
but he's given us nothing. I mean at this point,
I mean, would he not just be better to leave
Coker on the outside and bring you know, Horn as
your slot and just sit him down. I mean they
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set Bryce down, you know, last year, and it seemed
to help. But loget, it's just not giving us anything whatsoever. Uh,
and especially after yesterday, I don't know what.
Speaker 8 (09:34):
Was going on mc millan.
Speaker 7 (09:34):
I know that he's nursing an ankle, but I think
that he did. He did he have the flu yesterday?
Speaker 8 (09:40):
Is that what was going on with?
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Yeah, we woke up yesterday morning. He had been added
to the injury report with an illness and was listed
as questionable, but about two hours later they said he
was good to go.
Speaker 7 (09:50):
Okay, Well anyway, leagues, that's just I mean, man, I
just like I said, he's a first round draft pick.
But dude, if he catches another ball and standing out
of bounds again, I know he didn't do it this
game because he didn't.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Catch but one ball.
Speaker 7 (10:05):
I think it was last game, the game before.
Speaker 8 (10:08):
He's just not given anything on.
Speaker 7 (10:10):
That side of the field.
Speaker 8 (10:12):
I mean, it's almost like.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
His side of the field they're just not even.
Speaker 7 (10:16):
Having to covering because we're not even throwing it his way.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
There's no confidence in him at all.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
So just just my fault on it.
Speaker 7 (10:23):
I don't know if it's time to set him down
and give him some time to think about some things
or what so.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Well, they tried that, they tried that once earlier this year.
I appreciate you, buddy, thank you for the phone call.
I he's giving you nothing. He's giving you nothing except
at least one befuddling brain fart every single week.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
At least one headed mistake.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
I mean the fourth down yesterday lining up offside didn't
ultimately cost them, but it does continue to drain any
confidence that you have that he's that he's growing and
getting better. I mean, this is not some some project
they took out of you know who would you know
he stayed what five years at South Carolina? Yeah, okay,
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maybe you're not the world's most productive wide receiver yet,
but that stuff's got to stop. Like seven oh four
numbers and again XCEL will be okay, how do you
know that? How do you know that?
Speaker 8 (11:19):
When?
Speaker 2 (11:19):
And I'm gonna sound like a real smart ass here,
but like when it seems like he doesn't understand what
the lines on the field mean. Like I know that
sounds like a jerk thing to say, but like, dude,
you can't get your feet in bounds, you don't have
spatial awareness, you're not dragging your feet along the sidelines.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Then we're worried that you're gonna drop the pass.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
I mean, when's the last time you saw a high
school wide receiver light up off sides because he forgot
to check with the side judge. I mean, it happens,
but not that often, not that often in high school man.
I mean, listen, I think he's on the roster for
twenty twenty six, but he's very much going to be
I think in danger of not making the roster by
the end of training camp.
Speaker 9 (11:52):
I was gonna say, I think he's gonna be on
the bubble starting next year.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
And here's the thing. If David Moore is healthy enough
to play this week against Tampa, I would look for
him to get many of those snaps. I would rather
have David Moore out there. And I got crushed for that,
you know, earlier in the year when I when I
was a loud and proud David Moore Stan. But I
if David Moore is healthy enough to play this week,
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he's getting excel snaps in my mind.
Speaker 9 (12:17):
And he's too, and he has a good rapport with
Bryce from last year. Has to absolutely has to happen.
And I do want to mention this too. I think
I've officially come to the conclusion. You know, I know
Lad's not had the best year this year, but still
nearly eight hundred yards receiving. I'm afraid that Carolina drafted
a Jalen Rager in Excel over at Justin Jefferson in
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Lad mccackey.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Yeah, yeah, let's let's move on from that. Steven is
up next on the phone, Steven, what's going on?
Speaker 11 (12:47):
Hey, Gaby, Thanks Sigma call.
Speaker 10 (12:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (12:50):
I wanted to give some credit to the defense. I
know the score might not show that, and there were
some plays they didn't take advantage of, but I think
I heard on the Mac and Boone show that more
than that of the three touchdown drives Seattle had yesterday,
none of them are longer than twenty nine yards. So
I think you have to put that on the Fanthers
offense giving up short still position to Seattle. And with JC,
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I don't know if he's hanging out with XL too much,
but the Mintum mistakes are too common with JC right now.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
And last thing, I know, you get a good break.
The last thing.
Speaker 11 (13:23):
I know this might be hard for Fancers fans to digest,
but I think no matter what happened Saturday, the season's
was success. I mean eight to nine in the hunt.
I think, no matter what, it's success. I think Dan
Morgan's put some good building blocks for the franchise in
the future. So I'm excited for what we got going on.
And I'll leave you to that, Kibi.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
I appreciate you, buddy. No, you're right to point out
and we have already. But I mean, yeah, with short fields,
the defense came to play. That was a three to
three ball game nearly what mid now, I guess a
little earlier than midway through the third quarter.
Speaker 9 (13:55):
About and eleven, because yeah, because what happened was they
were going down to red zone. Not best kickoff from
Ryan Fitzgerald. So they get the ball because it was
a landing zone violation. Yep, they get the ball at
their own forty. They drove down to about the twenty.
It was second, second or third down. That was the
Mike jackpick, right, It was to Mike jackpick. And then
literally the first play of the second half, all offensively
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was to Chewba FuMB Juba fumble.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Air comes out of the sales. They score, it's ten
to three. Bryce comes out. They're pressing. All of a sudden,
this game is taken a different turn and Bryce throws
his first interception in a month, and it was a misfire.
You know, I don't know if it was a miscommunication,
but it was a misfire and he missed and it
was the worst possible time to do it. Seven h
four five, seven ninety six to ten. Hit us up
on the FanDuel text line, We'll come back. We'll take
a few more of your phone calls. And I do
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want to talk about what's going on in college basketball
with a former Hornets draft pick committing to play for
Baylor as essentially a free agent and he's available to
start playing college basketball now. Sports Radio ninety two seven
WF and Z. You know, I think it's obvious this
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Panthers offense is missing something. Texters are highlighting that on
the text line right now. We've had a few people
make the case that this this tight end group has
not come close to getting it done for the offense
so far this year, and I got to agree. I mean,
the J T Sanders broke an ankle. He's done for
the year, by the way, on the opening drive of
the game yesterday, the first play of the game. That hurts.
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I'm certainly not going to pretend like they lost the
game because of it. But you know, after his touchdown
passed last week, he kind of hoped that things were
starting to, you know, turn on and come back for him,
but instead he's done for the rest of the year.
Mitchell Evans has been nice at times, but he's a
rookie still finding his way, and I'm not sure he's
got any special qualities to him. And you know, Tommy Trimble,
I love watching him block and on occasion when he
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gets his hand to the football, you know he's going
to try to hurtle somebody, but not close to being
consistent enough in the passing game. And on a day
like yesterday, you'd like to think they could have attacked
the middle of the field with the tight ends, and
Mack and I talked about it on the pregame show yesterday,
but it never came to fruition. So I agree with
the fact that the tight end room has just simply
not given them enough this year.
Speaker 9 (16:20):
It's one of those things where we have three tight
end twos. Yeah, it looks likely, and that's not a
slight towards Tremble, Evans or Sanders, but like that, it's
what it is. I don't I like Mitchell Evans, I
didn't know what a ceiling was going to be. He's
actually done a little bit better than I fault because
I didn't know if he was going to make the roster,
But all things, for Day three pick rookie, he's done
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pretty well. Tommy Trimble is what Tommy Trimble is at
this point, and you can do a whole lot worse
than Tommy Trimble, but he's not got the ceiling in
the passing game, and you would have fought J. T.
Sanders would be that guy. But honestly, Kyle, I think
he's kind of regressed this year. I agree, compared to
what he was before the injury in the Chiefs game
last year.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Sure, And I've also got a combination to people saying
things like this wide receiver or this this offense needs
a real speed threat this offseason, and I would agree.
But I also am a little bit flummoxed by the
fact that it felt like weeks ago Jimmy Horns Junior's
role was starting to expand a little bit, but he's
remained nothing more than a gadget guy for them, Like
outside of the big catch that he made against the
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Miami Dolphins and Dallas, right, But I mean the Dolphins
catch was the big one on fourth down. I thought
maybe we would get some more, at least a couple
of more attempts to Jimmy Horn over the top, like
get that guy running a fly route, a nine route,
like let's see how this goes. But those opportunities, I mean,
they just haven't existed for Jimmy Horn so far this year.
So it's not that I thought he was going to
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suddenly become an integral part of the offense. But you
know the fact that he they drafted him as a
project with top end speed and the fact that they
really haven't tried anything with him vertically has been a
real surprise to me, a real surprise. So we got
a lot of that coming in. Let me take some
phone calls here. Panther Bow was up first. He was
the game yes day day. We had a party at
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the w FNZ doghouse and Panther Bow was leading the charge.
Speaker 10 (18:04):
What's up, bo Hey, k B, thanks picking my call? Yeah, uh,
that was that was pretty fun. It was a cool atmosphere.
But you had who's your Bobby out there? You had
the grim DVR Dave uh sight still cracking me up.
But yeah, I mean it is what it is. I thought, uh,
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Seattle just I mean they just put a clinic on
like tackling, wrapping up, and it was just, you know,
our offense never got anything moving. And yeah, there's they're
gonna have to be some things made in the off
season to fix that. But you know, it's not like
like I'm glad for due didn't go to a bowl game.
Like I'm like, I'm there's no reason to root for
the Panthers if we're not gonna win the Super Bowl.
But we can do anything. Just you know, there's you
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gotta still you gotta still believe that. And I was,
I was enjoying the fact that there were some Seattle
stands out there. Money. I'm a simple man, ka people.
One of my favorite things that is doing the Ocho
Cinco saying keep pound, you know, like like Bob Parker
and the prices right are the happy Gilmore. But we
were when we were walking back to the end of
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the stadium, We're looking at all these jerseys and I see,
I see, I just saw a salesman out there. He
had a chat go to jersey on which is pretty cool. Yeah,
I'm like I'm like, can we stop with the Christop
McCaffrey jerseys. Get in New Jersey. He's gone. I mean
you could get a legend like a Keith Clear a
pepper Is that's fine, But the Kaffrey plays for another
team now and it's not Panthers. So that was on
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one that was right with that. But yeah, just buy
a time in man.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Appreciate the phone call, buddy. Yeah, I mean, listen, pep
jerseys are expensive, so once you buy one, some people
just continue to wear them. I don't blame them.
Speaker 9 (19:42):
Hat tip to the guy I saw walking into the
stadium with Wesley Wallace jersey.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
That's pretty good. No, that's good stuff. That's really good stuff.
I also, Mack and I were joking like, would there
be any Sam Darnold Panthers jerseys in the crowd yesterday?
We saw one. We did see a little team. We
were gonna rip him that. He looked like he was
ten years old, so we let it go. But we
did we did spot one out there yesterday. Uh, let's
see Ryan is up next on the phones. Ryan, what's
going on?
Speaker 10 (20:04):
How's it going on?
Speaker 4 (20:06):
Happy New Year to you?
Speaker 8 (20:07):
This week? I was I was just I was just
gonna say, like I was just gonna talk about how
I am a little uneasy about, you know about about
Saturday's game with Tampa. I I don't, I know, I know,
and with division rivals, especially with our division, we always
play each other very well. But I was, I don't
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like how close Tampa played us still last game. Like
you said, they are a train.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Wreck right now.
Speaker 8 (20:32):
I mean, Tampa, Tampa stinks right now. So we we
should come out there Saturday, and I think we should
beat them more conventionally this time. But I just, you know,
I am excited about it. I have an uneasy feeling,
but I am ready to watch us. Like I'm off
work Saturday, and now now is their boat and now
as they are playing Saturday, I'm I'm looking forward to
watch having a panther am hoarded Saturday this Saturday. I
was I was gonna go out. I'm not going out now,
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I'm staying home like anybody. Anybody's bore to welcome to
come over. But it's gonna be panther.
Speaker 11 (20:58):
It's gonna it's gonna it's gonna be.
Speaker 8 (21:00):
Panther hoarded, panther hoarded starity. Yeah, and I'm excited, they're both.
Speaker 10 (21:04):
I'm excited about it.
Speaker 8 (21:05):
I do think we're gonna do it, but there is
a part of me that has an uneasy feeling because
because of how good they played us last time. But
it is a rivalry and our division.
Speaker 12 (21:14):
Does lage other well.
Speaker 8 (21:15):
But let's let's go do this. But I do have
my moments where I hear.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
You, well, hey, happy New Year, Ryan. Party at Ryan's
house on Saturday. I appreciate the phone call Bud Tanner.
The ranter is up next, Tanner. What's going on? How
are you feeling today?
Speaker 10 (21:29):
What's up?
Speaker 8 (21:30):
KP.
Speaker 12 (21:31):
I am not a happy camper here in panther Lands.
Speaker 10 (21:34):
That was disappointing.
Speaker 12 (21:36):
Talk about a party though before the game we had
the w F and Z doghouse absolutely lit. I know.
We just heard from Panther Bow. Shout out, Panther Bow.
I had a blast before and after the game. We
really really did it big yesterday. But just a big disappointment, guys.
I mean, going into that game, after watching what we
saw against Tampa, I was expecting more that that was
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not good. The play calling all game was predictable. I
really thought that was a bit of a regression by
Dave Canalis yesterday.
Speaker 10 (22:08):
I need some better play calls than that.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Guys.
Speaker 12 (22:10):
We've got to find a way to move the change. Also,
I am so upset still about that face mass penalty.
I mean, what a momentum changer for the game. I
thought we had a really big opportunity to, you know,
make something of that that defensive stop, and then it
just J C.
Speaker 8 (22:28):
Horn.
Speaker 12 (22:28):
Man, he's got to figure it out. He has had
a really really bad couple of weeks these past few weeks,
and an offense was just horrendous. Bright with fifty four yards.
I had to double check. I said, fifty four yards,
that's terrible. He'd had no help. The interception was terrible. Guys,
what a game we've got coming up this Saturday. You
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couldn't want you really wouldn't want to have it any
other way. It's gonna be a four to thirty start.
We should have gotten the eight o'clock game. But either way,
I'm really excited. It all comes down to this. Guys,
keep founding.
Speaker 8 (22:59):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
I appreciate the phone call, Tanner, the rancher checking in.
Let me get to Robert real quick before we talk
about something else. Robert, what's going on?
Speaker 6 (23:05):
Man?
Speaker 2 (23:05):
What's on your mind?
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Man, there's one word, dag nabbit. I mean, you know, look, look,
Seattle is a very very good team. I mean, I
think they're one of the elite teams. But I agree
that the play calm was horrendous. The call that Dave's
Canals made on third and two when Brish through the intersection,
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when you had no protection and you decide to through
a five step drop, what happened to a nice checkdown
to one of the backs to get that run the football?
I mean, that was that was just crazy. Other than that,
got to get some love to the Hornets, really really
really really bad break with Concinipuent stuffer Man. Their team
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is really enjoyed for the first time. It's the joy
watched it the play, don't you think.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Yeah, I'm with you, Robert. I appreciate you, buddy. Thank
you for the phone call.
Speaker 10 (24:02):
My man.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Smoke you, you smoke your distracted me. What was the
transition you heard right there to our conversation.
Speaker 9 (24:09):
Well, talking about the Hornets coming off a big win
to spite kan Kin Nevil being hurt, but one of
their four draft picks is in the news.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Yeah they are, Well, it wasn't actually a Hornets draft pick.
The Pistons took him and then traded his rights to
the Hornets. And by the way, keep sending in your
text about the Panthers, I got a bunch of these
coming in seven oh four, five, seven ninety six ten
this story, and you know, we got the Hornets tonight
seven o'clock, Giannis and the Bucks in town. Hope to
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see a bunch of you over there. I'm headed to
the building as soon as we finish up pregame, so
you know, I hope to see you there. Hornets have
won four of the last six. No con tonight. He's
got the ankle injury suffered against Orlando on Friday, and
you know it was a great win. They will play
the audio during the pregame show. But Jamal Mosley just
really heaping praise on Charles Lee and the job that
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he's doing with the Hornets. They still got a ways
to go, but I asked for them to go on
some sort of run to get themselves back in the mix.
They look like they're kind of doing that right now.
They've won four of their last six, So anyway, Smoke's right.
We got a story in college basketball that does tie
back to the Hornets because on Christmas Eve, Baylor University
announced the signing of James nause a former NBA draft
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pick by the Pistons. His rights were dealt to the Hornets.
The Hornets dealt them later to the Nicks. I believe, yeah,
he was in the carl Anfony's that's the one. So
on Christmas Eve, Baylor announced that they had signed James Nausey,
who was the thirty first overall pick in the NBA
Draft in twenty twenty three, but never played in an
NBA game. He's been with FC Barcelona since twenty twenty,
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spending time on loan at two different clubs while also
making fifty one Euro League appearances for FC Barcelona. Two
g League players, Tierry Darlown and London Johnson, committed committed
to colleges in the fall. James nause marks the first
former NBA draft pick to be cleared to play in
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college on the men's side. And so this of course
sparks a bleep storm of debating and arguing and like,
what are we doing here? James Nase He's only twenty
one years old. I want to point that out, but
he's played professionally since he was sixteen overseas. So when
you hear that he's played professionally since twenty twenty, you
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might think that he's twenty five years old or twenty
four years old. He's actually still only twenty one. But
he has played professionally since twenty twenty. And so everybody
is just up in arms about this pointing case or
case in point rather. Tom Izzo, head coach at Michigan State,
this is the quote that pretty much everybody's talking about today.
Back on Saturday, here's Tom Izzo sounding off on Baylor
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signing James Nausey.
Speaker 13 (26:50):
I'm a little surprised I got to call it to Scott.
I'm anxious to see what he tells me, you know.
I mean, I'm not saying that we're holier than dou
Art or anybody should not do this that. But if
we're dipping into that one, if it's like I'm read
eating or hearing, I don't read it because I don't
go on Twitter. But when I'm hearing and now we're
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taking guys that were drafted in the NBA and everything
I said it to you a month and a half ago.
Come on, Magic and Gary, let's go, baby. You know,
let's do it.
Speaker 8 (27:23):
Why not.
Speaker 13 (27:25):
I mean, if that's what we're going through, shame on
the NCAA, you know, shame on the coaches too, But
shame on the NCAA because coaches are going to do
what they gotta do, I guess. But the NCAA is
the one those people in those committees that are making
those decisions to allow something so ridiculous and not think
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of the kid. So everybody talks about me thinking of
my programer selfish, No, get that straight for all of you.
I'm thinking of what is best for my son if
he was in that position, and I just don't agree
with it.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
All right, there's tom Izzo, you know, very politically, very
very diplomatically rather giving his answer, but he's pointed, you know,
it's wrong, it's crazy. I can't believe we're doing this.
What are we doing? The nc doublea's got a stat
I don't think the NCUBAA is going to do anything
like to me, it is crazy. But it's also worth
emphasizing that, you know, Baylor is not the only program
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doing this. The rules keep changing and I look down
panthers PSL. Sucker just said, KB, don't you think that
this is happening largely because the NC Doualea is tired
of being sued. They are just content to take their
cut of the money and aren't going to enforce rules
anymore so they don't end up in court. That that part.
The rules keep changing because the threat of legal action
is prompting one fold after the other. You got Abdullah
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ACMD from BYU, the Dayton kids, Sean Pouday, You got
the Washington kid Nicolas Subpoena.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
Isn't there one from Louisville?
Speaker 2 (28:51):
I mentioned him a minute ago. You know, others have
all have been brought aboard in season roster editions from
other professional ranks. The only difference but between all of
them and James Nausey, is that he was promising enough
more than two years ago to have an NBA team
select him in the draft, even within the Big twelve.
Kansas State's women's team rosters. Nasia Clayson's I believe is
(29:13):
the pronunciation who is second in scoring on the team
at ten point six points per game. She's from Belgium,
was the thirtieth overall pick. I believe played professionally in hockey.
Colorado College just added the son of a notable NHL
player and someone who's already skated with the pros for years.
And so yeah, the NCAA's tired of They ensued and
they keep losing, and I'm not sure if they have
(29:34):
any appetite to fight these battles anymore. But because Baylor
made a roster adition with a guy who was an
NBA draft pick, unlike all these other instances and examples,
it's not sitting well with a lot of college sports
fans who look around and see the fundamental nature of
the sport changing to a degree that is just unrecognizable
from what college basketball was for decades. And I try
(29:55):
to be, you know, fairly forward thinking, and you know,
I spend more time in the windshield that I do
the rear view. But like, is this good? Like do
we want this?
Speaker 6 (30:03):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Should James Nase be allowed to play college basketball?
Speaker 6 (30:08):
Like?
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Do the Knicks still own his rights? Is there clarification
on that?
Speaker 4 (30:13):
I don't know if he got cut or not, but
that's the thing.
Speaker 9 (30:16):
Like, so he was on excursion in FC Barcelona, right,
and then his draft rights, So essentially, once he's done
in college he have to go back to the Knicks.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
I don't know I don't know. I don't know how
that works, and I hate that I have to say
that I don't know, because for the longest time, we
knew how all of this worked. We knew what we
mostly knew what the rules were. Now, some of those
rules were deemed unfair or unconstitutional, archaic, you know, lots
of things, but they weren't all wrong and bad. And
(30:50):
I tend to agree with John Calipari, as I mentioned
weeks ago with his rant about this where I'm not
really that interested personally in watching a bunch of twenty
nine year old dudes playing college basketball.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
I'm just not.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
That's not what college basketball has always been to me.
And I realize that I'm getting older and the world changes,
and when you get older, you lament things that change
when you don't like them. And but like, does anybody
really want that? Do you really want to watch a
bunch of twenty five to twenty nine year old dudes
playing college basketball?
Speaker 9 (31:21):
Not really, I know, all of a sudden less they're
good to him. The only place I expect to see
that is BYU.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Yeah, and like you can get your jokes in, but like,
I'm good. This, by the way, ties back to Diego
Pavia too. His attorney, Ryan Dowton, filed a memorandum in
a Tennessee federal court in which he cited the NC
doublea's latest decision. This one, James Nagy, you know, is
part of trying to sue his sue the NC double
A again to gain more eligibility for his clients plural
(31:53):
just I don't know, man. Everybody I've talked to about
this is just kind of stunned and they don't really
know what to do with it. But the overarching s
I meant that I get from pretty much everybody is
I don't I don't like this.
Speaker 9 (32:03):
It's weird. It's not what college sports was supposed to be.
And look in this one in this case it's not.
It's weird. But it also is like, oh, James not
he's only twenty one. What happens if a guy that's
like twenty three, twenty four does this? Yeah, because it's
now on the table, that's when it starts to be.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Like em no like toosted. Monty Harrison right return to
play football at Arkansas after a ten year career playing
in Major League Baseball in the minors.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
Yeah, we've seen stuff like that.
Speaker 9 (32:35):
Chris Winky, Hayden Hurts, So we've seen this stuff before
Nate Boyer, but that was a bit more deployment and
then he went to go he was a long snapper
in his early thirties at Texas.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
But that was a very unique situation in its own right.
Speaker 9 (32:48):
Like, I it's one thing if it's one or two,
like one to five guys doing it in baseball.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
I'm used to that.
Speaker 9 (32:54):
But when it's it feels like it's going to be
twenty twenty five guys doing that to've already been drafted
or being playing in the G League and in realized,
oh crap, I made a mistake. It's almost like it's
now a situation where we could remember Matthew Hurt at Duke.
Oh yeah, he decided to leave and go into the
draft and staying instead of staying at Duke in another year,
which is the wrong decision. And now he's been in
(33:14):
the June League. It's like him going to the going
back to Duke right now and saying, hey, can I play?
It's like, what the hell, dude, it's been gone for
like four or five years.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
No, Like, what's right now? The NCAA is making decisions
that won't lead to sitting at a courtroom while simultaneously
trying to make up the new rules as they go along.
Speaker 9 (33:37):
And in the process it's creating more problems and creating
more I would say, larger problems because they don't want
to get called once again and lose yet again.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
Right, and this is all this all goes back to.
Speaker 9 (33:48):
You had forty years to prepare for this, and you
decided to sit on your thumbs and do nothing because
you wanted all the power.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Yeah and fifty k final the text line, just so.
The next guy, the next step is a guy that
played an NBA game, gets on a college roster who
Trenton Flowers, the two way player for the Bulls. There
was a report from Joe Tipton of ON three that
I think turned out to be erroneous, and ON three
had to apologize for that. But I mean, the fact
that it's even a conversation tells you where we are.
Speaker 13 (34:11):
Like.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
The next shoot to drop is a basketball player receiving
a better offer to leag leave a G League team
to return to college basketball, or a football player being
signed to an NFL practice squad and then try to
go back to college because he thought he'd be on
a roster. What how does that get litigated?
Speaker 5 (34:27):
So?
Speaker 10 (34:28):
But what what is?
Speaker 2 (34:29):
And then what precedent does that set? I'm just telling you,
I hate this.
Speaker 10 (34:33):
I do.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
I hate this.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
I don't want to watch twenty eight twenty nine year
old dudes playing college basketball. I'm not interested in that.
It's not what college basketball was ever supposed to be.
I get we all have dreams, but like, go get
a job. I don't know what else to tell you, man,
Let's go to smoke on the headlines the bagel guy
asking the important questions. Can Jello go back to UCLA now?
Speaker 10 (34:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (34:59):
No, don't.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
I don't think so either.
Speaker 9 (35:01):
Anyway, Monday Night Football tonight is actually a game of
importance for Carolina even though they're not in it because Kyle,
there is a doomsday scenario that the Carolina Panthers can
enact and still win the division.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
To make the playoffs.
Speaker 9 (35:14):
But it has it could end tonight as the Atlanta
Falcons host the LA Rams. If Atlanta wins tonight and
they win next week against New Orleans, Carolina is in
no matter what, yep, But you have to go first
get over the hurdle of the LA Rams and of
course the La Rams haven't sent him to win this game,
not only because they want to have the best position
(35:36):
in the playoffs, but Kyle, who they owned, the Falcons
pick next year.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
So if they win today, they help themselves two fold.
Speaker 9 (35:44):
They win and help themselves in the playoffs, and they
make sure that the Falcons pick, which is their pick,
is higher as well.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Do you think the Falcons are gonna No? Okay, yeah,
I figured. Now, all right, we'll come back and wrap
up the show. Sports Radio ninety two to seven WF
and Z. All right, I just kind of got roasted
(36:18):
on the FanDuel text line. Seven oh four numbers just
said Kyle seemed almost as certain of Atlanta losing tonight
as he was of the Bucks beating Miami. And I said, Lol,
this is fair, that's fair. Panthero on the text line said, dang,
KB can't even cheer to see the Falcons pull a chakra.
That was the most abrupt no I've heard in a while.
Oh No, I'm cheering for it, Don't get me wrong.
I'm just not really going to allow myself to believe
(36:40):
that could happen. You have to trust Atlanta. You have
to trust Atlanta. To win the next two games, and
if they did, then Carolina can lose out and still
make the playoffs. I don't want to back in that way, obviously,
I'd rather Carolina just beats Tampa on Saturday. But listen,
I'm rooting for Atlanta. I just don't think it's gonna happen.
That's all seven O four number said. Falcon's been playing
(37:01):
some good ball any given Monday. Yeah again, I'm watching.
I'll be rooting for him. I might even yell rise
up once or twice in the living room. If they
keep it close, that'd be it would be one of
the funniest most NFC South finishes to a season of
all time. And you know what I was thinking earlier too,
because I heard Max say something along those lines like
it'd be the most NFC South thing ever. Remember when
(37:23):
this division was good and respected not that long ago,
and Cam Newton and Drew Brees and Matt Ryan were
quarterbacking the teams in this division, and everybody feared the
NFC South.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
Even into two thousands.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, Just the fact that we it's
like the old ACC Coastal jokes that we make about
the NFC South now it's sad. I'm not I'm still
not used to it, but it is what it is.
A few people have said, KB, if y'all talked about
Tyler Shuck overtaking Ted Aero McMillan with the best odds
to win NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year, we hadn't
(37:58):
brought it up. I guess we have now. He's a
slight favorite based on the sports books that I've seen.
But I will tell you right now, if the Panthers
go down to Tampa on Saturday and win and make
the playoffs and McMillan has a productive day, I still
think he's winning the award, don't you.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
If the Panthers make the playoffs and he goes down
and has a good day on Saturday.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
Like he did against Tampa the first time, yep.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
If he does that again, I would bet you that
he still ends up winning Offensive Rookie of the Year. Also,
a text for a minute ago said, just so y'all
know New Orleans is actually the best team in this division?
You know, record wise, No, but the way they're playing
right now, it's you know, you could make the case.
(38:42):
I wouldn't say that, but they are certainly finishing the
season strong and it looks like they found their quarterback.
And for all the old jokes I made about Tyler Shuck,
I have to admit he's looked better than I thought
he would, so I guess good for him. We gotta go.
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(39:03):
Smoke what you got. I'll be petty here. Tip of
the Captain, Georgia seven. Way to take care of app
State again. Okay, I will tip my cap to Panthers
fans because again you you showed up. You packed the
house yesterday. The atmosphere was fantastic, but unfortunately the offensive
football did not match your energy. So tip of the
cap to Panthers fans. Panthers rather Hornets pregame coming up
(39:25):
top of the hour. We'll talk to you then for smoke.
I'm KB Sports Radio ninety two to seven WFNZ. You're
going to be dead in a one hundred years anyway,
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