September 9, 2025 • 40 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
What coach did you know right away was the wrong hire?
The guy that you knew immediately was a mistake and
was going to end up fired and it came with
a pricey buyout or set the organization back multiple years.
That's a question that we're having some fun with right
now in the FanDuel text line seven oh four five,
seven ninety six ten.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
For some, it's not fun.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
For some it brings back very traumatic memories of rooting
for the worst versions of their favorite football teams. But man,
it's the list is fantastic. And I'm getting a surprising
number of Mike Dunlap texts from the FanDuel text line.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
And if you're an.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
OG Charlotte basketball fan, Horne or Bobcats, but especially the Bobcats,
that is an era, albeit brief, that you can't forget
because smoke. You can probably remind me on this Mike Dunlap,
I it was a shocking hire when it happened because
he was basically a college guy at that point. It
was like the it was the Bobcat's equivalent of hiring
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Matt Ruhle.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
So it was immediately after the seven and fifty nine seasons,
right right, right exactly so where Dunlap had been where
Saint John's I believe, and then he was the interim
at Arizona.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
Is that right.
Speaker 6 (01:34):
I'm trying to look up his resume.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Okay, well, you can check me on that, but I
just they were so bad. I remember specifically watching Sports
Center back then and some of the losing streaks that
those teams went on under the guidance of Mike Dunlap.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
I think they had, so Okay, I found his resume
from two thousand and six to two thousand and eight,
that's when the Nuggets traded for Ai. Yeah, he was
with the dinver I stare. He was an assistant at
Arizona for one year, an assistant at Oregon for one
year I think that was the first year of Dana
Altman at Oregon, and then for three years he was
an assistant at Saint John's before taking a Bobcat's job.
(02:12):
No head coaching experience in the NBA, only like three
years of an experience in the NBA period, and I
believe the guy he worked for at Saint John's was
a guy who was kicked, thrown off the team, or
fired for throwing basketball.
Speaker 6 (02:26):
As at players.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Yes, I can't remember his name, Oh my.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Gosh, so yeah, yeah, yeah, it's Everdad or he was
uctually or was that Rutgers head coach he.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Was It was the Rutgers head coach already, it was
the Rutgers head coach. But either way, it was weird
because Mike Dunlap was this. Rachel just said, did not
expect Mike Dunlap talk today, nor did I, Rachel. But
he was like this want to be hard ass kind
of coach.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
But yeah, Ben Gordon almost went almost got into a
fight with him.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Yeah, but like he also wanted to bring some of
the like that's why I said, said Matt Rule, Like
Matt Rule brought some of that collegiate type feel, some
of the college style stuff that didn't vibe with veteran
professional players. Mike Dunlap went through some of that same stuff,
like he wanted to press all the time and tramp
all the time, and you know that just doesn't work
as well in the NBA.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Holy crap, what's that? He actually won a ring. Who
did Mike Dunlap did he really with who he won
with the Milwaukee Bucks? He was his assistant. I didn't
know that he was an assistant with Charles Lee. Wow,
oh my, oh dear god.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
How about that? All right?
Speaker 2 (03:23):
We learned you learn something new every day. So Mike
Dunlap has made some really frequent appearances on the text line.
During this conversation, Jeff Collins at Georgia Tech a lot
of Steve Clifford two point zero, which I mean, who
didn't feel that way? Like we all like cliff but
a second time really knee jerk reaction firing of Brego.
(03:44):
Then Kenny Atkinson leaves you with the altar, and it's like, well,
I guess we'll go back to Steve.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Like nobody, nobody had high hopes.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
We try to talk ourselves into well, you know, it
looks like the most talented roster Steve's ever coached.
Speaker 6 (03:53):
So just because we actually had to watch all a two.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Games, we had to find something seven O four numbers
said Steve's with the then Washington Redskins.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Okay, that one I get.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Panthero says Will mush Champ as a Gator football fan,
dude humps dead sharks.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
That's a different guy. That's a different guy. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Must Champ didn't hump the dead sharks. Who humped the
dead sharks? It wasn't Ron Zook, It was the other guy. Oh,
he's not a head coach mckaway. Yeah, And we found
out it wasn't Jim mcwayne. It was the CEO of
Was it the CEO of Jimmy Johns at the time?
Speaker 5 (04:27):
Was it? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (04:28):
I think I think Kayleb Presley did a whole entire
like he did his own like pablutry finds out, except
he did it actually own campus interviewing Jim mcaway And
unfortunately that's Jim mcawaye's is a photo of someone that
looks like him, Yeah, with a.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Shark like he'll always be remembered as the guy who
humps sharks but didn't actually hump the dead shark. And
the crazy thing is Kyle he got Florida to the
SEC Championship Game one year. He really did. He really
did Urban Meyer with the Jags. That's a really good one.
Somebody said, can we actually say Frank Reich, Yeah you can.
Although that one was like the definition of whiplash in
(05:08):
this conversation. Some people, to their credit, jumped on it
right away, but there were a lot of people that
looked at it like, Okay, maybe Frank's not the most
exciting hire, but look at all the investment they're making
around him, look at all these accomplished veteran coaches that
surely this has got to work out, right, it's got
to be And then by about week four you realized, oh,
he's got no energy and didn't really want to do this,
(05:29):
and there's no agreement in the offensive coaching staff room
about what kind of offense they want to be. Frank said.
When Frank said the thing about or when the story
came out, I guess it was. And there was that
quote where they're like, we'll work on Bryce's footwork next year.
Remember that whose story was that somebody I think I
was Joe.
Speaker 6 (05:46):
Person Diana Orsini right after he got fired.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Yeah, and the report came out that they were, you know,
inside the building. Frank was like, we'll work on his
footwork next year. It's like, what, like entire offenses are
designed around footwork and timing of quarterback drops. As we
saw again on Sunday, do you mean you'll work on
his footwork next year. And I was reminded of that
when Dave Canalis was asked yesterday, Hey, are you going
to work on sliding with Bryce?
Speaker 3 (06:08):
He was like, eh, maybe.
Speaker 6 (06:11):
He didn't want to.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
He didn't want to bury him. That's what he didn't
want to do, because that that sounded the way he said.
Maybe it was like yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
But it's the same thing to me as like the
whole Dan Morgan and not mentioning the playoffs, just say
the truth and move on. Yes, you have to work
on your quarterback sliding. I mean forgot like when little
Bryce he went away for summer this year and he
had his summer reading list or his summer you know,
work list like he did when he was a kid,
or we all did. It should have been, hey, go
to a kid's baseball camp for a week and learn
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how to slide. Like the fact, like the fact that
the answer is maybe, yeah, your quarterback needs to know
how to slide, okay, and save me some of the
texts I got yesterday that they was like, well, you know,
he was stumbling and so like at that point he
couldn't say you're right, but he s he should have
slid three to four yards earlier before he started slide
as stumbling on Sunday, which led to the turnover.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Of course.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
So anyway, the coach that you knew was just wrong
from the beginning seven oh four, five, seven ninety six
to ten. A few more of these, Willie Taggart at
Florida State from a seven oh four number. I can't
claim that one. No, I didn't know what to make
of that one. I think whoever was going to be
the coach at that point was going to be screwed. Yeah,
just because Jimbo literally left it out in the garbage can. Yeah,
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rich Rod at Michigan from Carolina mays I like, I
don't know, I got to put myself back in that
timeline of when that happened. It did seem like most
people felt that Michigan made a grand slam higher of
rich Rodriguez at West or at Michigan coming from West Virginia.
I remember a lot of people feeling like that was
(07:43):
a great hire from Michigan.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Am I wrong about that?
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Because it was a lot of Alabama fans are wanting
Rich Rod because it was a lot of it was
basically the talk was Rich Roder Nick Saban, who's going
to be the guy?
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. Bud Foster was also in on
some of that discussion too. I believe at one point,
uh oh, captain from Foxcroft, Brian Harson at Auburn.
Speaker 6 (08:03):
That's that.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Yeah, like in the last ten years. Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know, last ten years. Brian Harson might be
the answer to that question.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
It's either him or Less Miles at Kansas. Yeah, okay,
most Kansas football hires over the last fifteen I knew
that one right away. Yeah, yeah, I knew that one
right away. All right, seven oh four five, seven ninety
six ten. Somebody said just jumped in. What sparked the
conversation me declaring that Brent Price is done at Virginia Tech.
It breaks my heart.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
You know how much I love my Hochies, But I
believe Brent Prie the era is over at Virginia Tech.
And if he loses to ODU this weekend, they have
to fire him after the game.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
They just have to.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
You got a former head coach on staff and Philip Montgomery,
let him finish the season, start looking for your new ad,
and then you can let that guy hire the next
football coach.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
And that's why.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
So there were a couple of people surprised that I'm
already calling to fire the head coach after two weeks.
I don't want to, but there's no evidence he's a
good head football coach.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
I'll also say this, if if you guys lose to
him again, why even scheduled him? Because they've gotten your
number for the better part of a decad, They're not
going to moving forward.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
They've canceled future games because of now the ACC's emphasis
on TV ratings. Right, but seriously, because the TV ratings
are now a part of this revenue sharing formula, these
teams are now incentivized to play bigger non conference games
that'll draw more eyeballs. As we saw last week in
Week one, how massive those TV ratings were in Week one.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
And I'll say it would be very ironic if he
does get fired after a loss to Old Dominion, because
his first game was against Old Dominion. If you remember,
in that game, that's when the coaching staff got stuck
in the elevator.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Yep, yep.
Speaker 6 (09:38):
That might have been a metaphor for howes Era was
going to go.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Take some phone calls. Rod is up first, in this segment, Rod,
what's going on, buddy? Oh we got him? Oh Carolina J.
That's Carolina J. Smoke, not Rod Jay. What's going on?
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (09:54):
No, no much man.
Speaker 8 (09:55):
I thought I was thinking in my own head. Hey man,
I got for your uh Cataba great Jim thumps Thula
from San Francisco. I knew that was gonna be a
disaster right right away. But I got another one for
you guys. This is for the color blue, right, because
we're processed blue, right, So I was thinking about it.
(10:16):
It's a process, right, We've been in the process for
a long time. I'm just grasping a straw kit trying
to find the stiverligning right. I need a psychiatrist, but
I'm still gonna watch the game. It feels like, you know,
just your girlfriend who cheats on you. You know she's no good,
but you know you can't leave her alone. That's how
I feel about my Panthers. And then with the blue maybe, Kyle,
we need to get a sponsor. Give the players some
(10:39):
blue shoe and the coaches some blue shoes, so they'll
play hard and coach hard.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
I'll hit the rest off the head, poke somebody's eye
on out there anyway seven four five, seven ninety six
ten hit us up on the fan duel text line Matt,
Matt and Greens Bros.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Up next.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
What's up? Matt?
Speaker 9 (10:59):
Hey, guys, what's going on? I know you're talking to
this coaching h discussion.
Speaker 10 (11:06):
But he said some a minute, I know he's talking
about brike and the foot foot work with with Bryce.
Uh did you see the dan On Lasky breakdown of Bryce.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
I did.
Speaker 11 (11:16):
Yeah, So that kind of Triggeredsef when he.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
Was talking about that.
Speaker 10 (11:22):
Are they trying to mess with his footwork again? Because
it because the way he put it, you know, Bryce
is kind of trying to take that little hitch out
of his drop back and throwing off this time.
Speaker 11 (11:32):
In a little bit.
Speaker 9 (11:33):
Maybe, I'm not sure.
Speaker 11 (11:35):
I mean.
Speaker 9 (11:37):
They kind of let Bryce do what he could, you.
Speaker 10 (11:38):
Know, be him when he was playing well.
Speaker 9 (11:41):
And not mess with him so much. The coach is
going and try to, you.
Speaker 10 (11:46):
Know, change a player for what he's doing, can do comfortable.
Speaker 9 (11:49):
And can mess him up.
Speaker 10 (11:50):
And then I hope this coach is staff isn't doing that.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Yeah, No, it's a it's a good point, Matt. I
did watch or Lobsky's film breakdown. He points to a
couple of instances from Sunday where Bryce's footwork is a
little sloppy, which is something that improved last year once
he got back on the field. And that's something that
a lot of quarterbacks, you know, they continue to struggle
with in their first handful of years. They get more
and more consistent, but when you're under duress, one of
the first things to falter is your footwork, and especially
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when you're out there just you know your center is
firing snaps above your head off to the right, down
at your shins. That's going to throw off footwork. So
Bryce was responsible for some of it. Austin Corbett was
responsible for some of it. But yeah, I would encourage
everybody to go watch with Lobski's break down of Bryce
over the weekend. Like he points out the flaws, but
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he also says lest it's not the end of the world,
and some of it is understandable why it happens. Let's
see here. Paul is up next on the phones. Paul,
what's going on, man, thank you for the call.
Speaker 11 (12:46):
What's up? What's up?
Speaker 12 (12:48):
Kyle?
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Kyle just leaving the dentist. I'm normally working at this hour,
but leaving the dentist, listening to what you guys have
to were talking about. I have a call in Okaya.
Were you just kind of thought it was going to
work out? Did you guys already hit mushamp in South Carolina?
Speaker 2 (13:05):
We got mush Champ in Florida. We did not get
mush Champ in South Carolina.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Yet, Oh mushampens South Carolina a hot mess. Also, Ray
Hanley taking over the Giants after Bill Parcells didn't feel
like it was going to work out, and it did.
Wo and and any coach and any any coach taking
over the Jets is just a bad sat I and
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on and on our quarterback. I gotta tell you, I'm
sixty three years old. I've watched a bunch of the NFL.
I don't know I this quarterback, this GM, this team,
this this time and place, you know, with footwork, whether
leget can't uh can't slide and staying down that offensive line.
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I mean a lot of excuses about all kinds of things.
I don't know.
Speaker 12 (14:01):
I don't know about this kid.
Speaker 11 (14:03):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Me saying I don't like him.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
It's fair, I don't don't I'm not mad at anybody
who feels like he's he's not proven anything yet.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
And thank you for the phone call, Paul.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
I'm not mad at anybody who thinks that somebody Turbot
told me earlier.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
KB.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
I think you're making some good points about Bryce not
being nearly as bad as some people thought he was
on Sunday. But to me, he hasn't shown himself to
be a difference maker yet, and that's what concerns me.
That to me is a great That's that to me
is where the mindset should be.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
Right.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Can you can he prove that he's a difference maker
this year with his arm? If he can, awesome. If
he can't, well, you know what the next steps are?
Seven oh four, five, seven ninety six to ten. Mark
from Charlotte is up next. Mark, what's going on? Thanks
for the call, Thank great show man, Thank you.
Speaker 13 (14:47):
Uh this is this is really killing me. This is
the first game of the season with the passes, new
pieces on the defensive line. Offensive line was trash and
we wanted to throw Bryce away. We want to get
rid of day Canalis. It's the first game of the
season and so let's stop panicking. Let everybody make adjustments.
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What you do after after each game and wants to
see one of them foals. And I believe Bryant is
gonna be all right, and probably with about four or
five games in, we're gonna be seeing a different tunnel.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Yeah maybe, Mark, thank you for the phone call. And
I said earlier in the show one of my I
don't know. It's not a pet peeve. I've been a
little perturbed by the folks who jumped to it looks
like Week one last year. No, it didn't Week one
last year. There was nothing good. Go back and rewatch
Sunday's game against Jacksonville. Bryce made some terrible plays, but
he also threw a bunch of dimes, some big throws
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that should have resulted in scores, chunk plays.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
And if guys make plays.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Even on a rough day, we're heaping praise on them
today potentially for being resilient, right, for overcoming adversity, for
not quitting, but instead, dudes who get paid to catch
balls aren't catching balls real quick PSL tray is up,
next tray?
Speaker 3 (15:57):
What's going on?
Speaker 14 (15:59):
Hey, kV, I had one for the for the coaches.
You knew it was going to be a disaster, but
Paul took it from me. I was gonna say, will
much champ Uh. You know he failed at Florida and
then Ray Tanners always thought he would be able to
succeed in Columbia. I just not sure what he was thinking.
But a quick note, you know, since you were talking
about Bryce Young, I keep hearing over and over again,
(16:21):
Oh well, you know, the team around them, the team
around them. If this guy needs the perfect supporting cast
to be consistently deep or to be decent consistently, then
he's never gonna get us anywhere anyway, you know what
I mean, Like we I'm tired of like hearing that
you know about the drops and the dolphensive mind. All
those things are true and they're definitely an issue. But
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like great quarterbacks, you know, especially ones where he trade
up the first overall, like they have to be able
to overcome those things.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Yeah, difference You got to be a difference maker.
Speaker 14 (16:54):
Yeah yeah, but yeah, appreciate the show. I'll hang up
and listen. But that's all I just wanted to give.
Speaker 9 (17:00):
Oh and one other thing.
Speaker 14 (17:01):
I genuinely think that society is going to collapse before
the Panthers shield a good football team again. Like I
really I think we've missed our Super Bowl windows because
by the time it opens back up, we're gonna be
like fighting over.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Water probably, so youway, the water wars will be here. Yeah,
I agree with that. Thank you, brother, Thank you so much.
PSL tray checking in. All right, listen, we'll come back.
We'll try to squeeze in some more phone calls. I
promise you that, but Al Wallace, former Panthers defensive end,
we'll stop by. Next Sports Radio ninety two to seven
wfn Z. All right, so quick question for you. So
(17:44):
one of our listeners, my guy Jamil, all right, shout
out Dreamial. He sent me this on Instagram and my
DMS a little while ago. It's a FanDuel sportsbook post.
It asked the question, all right, well, it's less of
a I guess it's a question. It says you get
twenty million dollars, but Derrick Henry has to randomly truck
you once a month for the rest of your life.
Are you taking the money twenty million cash, but once
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a month, every month for the rest of your life
out of nowhere, Derrick Henry is just going to Tarry
Tate office linebacker. You're ass you said, twenty million a month, right, No, No, No,
twenty million total. Now you get a one time cash payment,
tax free twenty million dollars and that's it. But for
the rest of your natural born life, Derrick Henry gets
(18:27):
to come out of nowhere and declete you, or at least.
Speaker 6 (18:30):
Attempted to subtract the medical colls that it would be.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Yeah, I think I'd take it, just because I know.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
He's older than me. If you invest you that's a
good point too.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
If you invest that money properly, then the interest should
cover your medical bills every year.
Speaker 5 (18:45):
True.
Speaker 6 (18:45):
True.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
The flip side though, is you might end up with CTE,
So I want to throw that out here.
Speaker 6 (18:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
No, FanDuel text line. I'm sorry, FanDuel sportsbook, but both
are appropriate. You get twenty million dollars cash, but Derek
Henry gets to absolutely demolish you once a month for
the of your life. Well as a guy on the
phone line who I think is better equipped to withstand
that than pretty much anybody in this conversation. Al Wallace,
former Carolina Panthers defensive end, is back with us for
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the first time in a while on the hotline for
a Tuesday conversation Al Wallace twenty million cash, but Derek
Henry's coming out of nowhere once a month.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
You're taking it?
Speaker 12 (19:18):
No, sir, have you seen that? That's an alien? No,
that's not enough cash.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
What would the price tag be?
Speaker 12 (19:27):
Man a hundred million when I was twenty one. I'm
fifty one now, No, shot man, that's gonna hurt. That's
not good enough.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Yeah, I'd probably take it, knowing he'd kill me by
week by month three. But my kids have a nice
little nest egg when I'm dead and gone. So all right, Well,
get in truck. That's about how Panthers fans felt roughly
four o'clock Sunday afternoon, really ugly opener down in Jacksonville.
You've been a part of a lot of good and
a lot of bad in your career. The NFL's hard,
but this one was different.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Al.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
I think you and I both agree on that, because
this team finished strong last year, and the offense had
high hopes, and they spent a ton of money on
the defensive line. But unfortunately it looked like more of
the same, didn't it.
Speaker 11 (20:06):
Yeah, And you know what, I.
Speaker 12 (20:08):
Think a lot of teams feel a little just struck.
Speaker 11 (20:12):
You know, this first game of the season because.
Speaker 12 (20:14):
The expectations and the high hopes are always there for
all the franchises, but for this team, coming off the
way that the season ended with Bryce Young and the
success that running game, and then all the additions in
their off season with the defensive tackles and the return
of Derek Brown, you were hoping for a better performance.
And for me, the word that comes to mind is
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just disappointing. It was disappointing. I'm a little bit confused
with the team, and then the way they look and
just the lack of energy. It just didn't look like
a game one, like guys were starving, like they were
hungry dogs waiting to go out there and take on
the Jags in their building.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Well, and the thing is that we often get back
to this conversation of is it more lack of execution
or more on coaching or lack of preparedness. You know,
I've been particularly hard on the coaching staff this week
because I didn't feel like that team came out prepared.
I thought they were too disorganized, multiple timeouts before the
play clock could expire, having a hard time getting a
play call in running the play clock down to nearly
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one second on the clock every single play outside of
I think two drives where they went hurry up and
some tempo. Like I look at the coaching staff a
little bit sideways this week coming out of Week one,
not just because your team looked that way out, but
because you lost it to a coaching staff that was
coaching together and making its debut for the first time
in the NFL.
Speaker 12 (21:28):
Yeah, that's the huge question. Why was zape Canals's second
year staff not more prepared than Liam Cohen in his
staff down in Jacksonville, who just got there, just got
all of the new pieces. What's the excuse before doing that?
It just feels like there's no sense of urgency for
consecutive training camps right where the starters don't play much.
(21:49):
There's not a sense of urgency at practice. You are
practicing the practice, but did you practice to get better
or is it enough competitive situations? I'm honestly asking that question.
I went to maybe two or three practices. I'm not
there every day, so I don't know the answer. But
what I do know is when I played in the
NFL preseason meant something. Those rehearsals, those dress rehearsals meant something,
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and if you're bypassing those for the sake of preserving bodies,
you're gonna be behind. You're just now starting with those
the starting group to get the physical part of the
football game going. And you saw a team that went
out there and got out physical. Jacksonville just looked like
they were ready for the contact and it showed up
on the play the scoreboards.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
So glad you brought up the preseason, because you know,
the messaging was very different. Al as you well know,
coming into this season, Dan wanted more prep, he wanted
multiple joint practices. We got a practice in the heat
in Houston to get ready for Jacksonville in Week one,
and so we're all thinking, oh, these starters are gonna
play a lot more in the preseason this year. And
then we end up with that speech in Houston where
Dave's like, well, I took them off the field because
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they didn't earn more snaps out there, and everybody was
confused by that. Like with Bryce specifically, I watched a
quarterback on who certainly looked better than he did a
year ago and the opener against New Orleans, but not
good enough, and he looked very out of rhythm. It
seems to me that the preseason would have been the
right time to get your quarterback in rhythm.
Speaker 12 (23:11):
Yeah, that's the perfect time. You need to see those
receivers come out of breaks. That offensive line has to
have real competition, a real contact. Those running backs and
the receivers have to feel, how you know, the hits
coming to the going to the ground. So without doing
that in the preseason, you're really trying to ramp up
Week one live in action on the field, and I
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don't think that's good enough. I'm certainly not as qualified
as Dave Canalls and my buddy Dan Morgan as a
general manager to make those types of calls.
Speaker 11 (23:41):
But what I do know is my.
Speaker 12 (23:42):
Experience on the football field, and it takes a number
of reps, a number of snaps to harden your body
to the game, And if you don't catch up to
the speed in the preseason, it blows your way. We
all often talk about how the intensity ramps up from
the regular season to the postseason. Well, the same thing
happens from pre season a regular season. The Panthers looked
like a team who they were not prepared. The game
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was moving too fast for on Week one.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
I thought Xavier League yet did a lot of damage
to his perception among this fan base and maybe even
internally after Sunday. It wasn't just the lack of a
tow drag, it was the immediate I'm not going to
block in this short yardage situation. Mark Schlareth lit him
up on the broadcast for that. How frustrating is his
start to the season.
Speaker 12 (24:25):
Gosh, I wish I had another word for you, And
I know I'm going to sound like recording, but it's
disappointing because all off season and in the preseason, we
see the catches, We talk about how hard he works,
the work he's put into his body. But what really
matters is if you're going to go out there and
sell out, sacrifice yourself for your teammates, and on a
short yardage run where you're moved in close so you
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can block the ind man on the line, you don't
get it done. And I was one hundred percent in
agreement with Mark Slare because it's unacceptable and it's not
just the one play. It is a bunch of stuff
that he's putting on film that's not okay with wide receivers.
I know wide receiver coaches, of course, a lot of
guys I've played with, they talked about that. I've talked
to him over the last twenty four hours, and they
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just don't understand a guy who looks the part but
doesn't play the part. For me, it's just so confusing.
And yeah, that doesn't help with the narrative that's been
going on since he got here, especially coming off of
a really underwhelming season in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
What were your thoughts on the Adam Feeling trade? Both
the timing of it. They couldn't have known Jalen Kocher
was going to get hurt a week later. But what
was your reaction when they traded Adam Feeling because that's
a big part of this conversation too.
Speaker 11 (25:33):
Yeah, I think a.
Speaker 12 (25:34):
Huge part of Adam playing, and we saw him play
in Minnesota last night, it's because that's where he wanted
to be. I don't believe Adam wanted to be here.
He told us that in his own way when he
decided to have the conversation about maybe I should retire.
So if you're Dan Morgan, you're Dave Canalis as good
as he is, as much of a help as he
could have been for Bryce in this offense, let's see
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what we can get for him. Let's start looking towards
the future. So I understand the tough position that they
were in with Adam Thieling. So it was confusing. And
I think even with Jalen Cocher, is he a difference
maker enough in this offense that you're gonna miss him?
Speaker 11 (26:11):
I don't think.
Speaker 7 (26:12):
So.
Speaker 12 (26:13):
The time is now for t MAC, the time is
now for XL. You need some of those other guys
to step up, and we're the hell out of the
tight end. That's how you supplement the loss of Adam Thieln.
You get the tight ends involved. And for the life
of me, for the last two years, I'm just gonna
go with you know, coach here, coach kanalas.
Speaker 11 (26:29):
Here, and not the other regimes. The tight ends have
just not been a.
Speaker 12 (26:32):
Part of this offense.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Al almost called you Al Michaels al Waller's former Panthers
defensive end with us here on a Tuesday afternoon. The
defense you are particularly suited to talk about this seven
straight games, they've given up two hundred plus yards rushing
in the thirty five games of a zero of Vero
as the defensive coordinator. Twenty six of those thirty five games,
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they've given up at least one hundred and twenty yards rushing.
Some of that we can excuse because of injuries and
lack of talent, but it continues to happen. I've got
people on my text line al screaming about the three
fours garbage. We got to go back to the four
to three. They got a fire as zero. Vero, you're
a former defender. You know what it takes to play
good defense. When you watch this group, should they be better?
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Why is this happening? What are your thoughts on the
way Vero is orchestrating this defense.
Speaker 11 (27:24):
It's the most puzzling thing.
Speaker 12 (27:25):
Let me just start with coach ej. He's highly respected,
he's proved.
Speaker 11 (27:29):
In the NFL that he is a guy that can
get it done.
Speaker 12 (27:32):
At a very high level.
Speaker 11 (27:34):
But right now, what we're seeing with the.
Speaker 12 (27:35):
Panthers is a defense that just it doesn't fit the scheme.
So as much as people want to point the finger
at the three to four, you think it would be
much better if it was a four to three. I
don't know if it's a scheme or personnel or both,
but none of it is looking good. Those statistics are alarming.
Speaker 11 (27:51):
I didn't even know that.
Speaker 12 (27:52):
Twenty six times over one hundred and twenty yards. You
go into every Monday meeting and your number one goal
is to stop the run. You can't do anything else.
You don't stop the run, you don't earn the right
to pass rush, you don't affect the throws from a quarterback,
and you're not gonna get turnovers when teams just decide
that they can just hand it off and pound the
rock like that. So it's gonna be one of those
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things that you know people are going to continue to criticize,
and I think it's a little bit of both. The
three four on its own works. You can see that
with the Pittsburgh Steelers, but go look at the Houston Texans.
All those teams roll out the same type of defense.
Now you look at Kyle, do you have the right personnel?
And I think for years that's been the question for me.
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I'm just gonna look at one guy. Is Derek Brown
a three four defensive end? My answer is going to
be no. Put that guy at knows one technique in
a four to three or the three technique in a
four to three, and have him penetrate reading reacting. Derek
Brown just takes a little bit away from him when
you saw him at Auburn, when you saw him rip
off one hundred and three tackles, it's because he played
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on the other side of the ball. They had one
tackle for loss, z ro sacks this pass game against
one of the you know, not a they're a good
offense from last year. Let me just say that. So
a lot has to be said with scheming the guys
up in the best spot. It has nothing to do
with three four or four to three.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
It's just not a good defense right now, all right,
Last thing Arizona on Sunday. We can't think of the
last time a Week two game felt this important, this
big toward well a lot of things, but this does
feel like a game where we're gonna find out what
this team's made of, right, I mean, after the way
you you opened the season, y'all talked to a big
game the team that is of course about improvement this year,
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and you know we're going to surprise people and even
some national media saying nice things about you if you
can't go out and respond against Arizona, who historically the
Panthers have owned what does it say about this football team.
Speaker 12 (29:41):
Yeah, it's not going to be good. I mean, weren't
we just here going into Week two of last year
and the whole organization and the fan base got turned
upside down when Bryce jng was bent like, we can't
continue to be in this spot. And Arizona is not
going to be a pushover. James Conner is a really
good running back. That offensive line is gonna be able
to do some damage I think in the running game.
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And the oh by the way, Kyler Murray is a
guy who can move around in the pocket and escape
if things don't get easier for the Panthers because coming
home you're gonna have the Atlanta Falcons. So this is
a critical game and it's going to point out a
lot about how quickly this team can take it on
the chin like we saw this weekend and bounce back.
Who's gonna have to fire in their belly? Where's the leadership?
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I think all of that is going to be the
huge question when we see this game kickoff. The Panthers
have to go out and put up a better showing.
They need to win, but it better look like a
better organized football team and a team that's putting more
effort out on the toe.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Al Wallace, great having you back, brother. We appreciate the time.
We'll do it again real soon anytime.
Speaker 11 (30:39):
Man appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Thank you, buddy.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Al Wallace, former Panthers defensive end with us on the hotline.
Really good breakdown there of Carolina, both in Jacksonville and
Arizona coming up this week. Now, let me sneak in
a phone callar too. Real quick. We have some folks waiting.
I'm told I have back to back John's who want
to talk Panthers.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Let's go with John. It's gonna be confusing John. I'm
sure the other guys like thinking it's his turn.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
John? Are you with me?
Speaker 15 (31:03):
Hey, I'm here.
Speaker 9 (31:03):
Can you hear me?
Speaker 3 (31:04):
I got your other John settled down?
Speaker 5 (31:05):
All right?
Speaker 3 (31:06):
That we got the first John? All right, John, talk
to me.
Speaker 11 (31:09):
Okay.
Speaker 15 (31:10):
What I wanted to say is, you know, I don't
I don't think we have the leaders on on either
side of the ball. I mean, going back when the
Panthers were good, we had Cam Newton as a leader.
And if you know, if if the sinner wasn't snapping
the ball to him, it may have to once or twice.
But uh, I think he'd be out of a game.
Speaker 11 (31:30):
You know, did did.
Speaker 15 (31:31):
Bryce ever turn to Corbett and say, hey, get the
ball to me. You know, he's gonna have to be
a little bit more of a leader.
Speaker 12 (31:39):
Could he go to again?
Speaker 15 (31:40):
I don't know that that Bryce is. You know, he's
not at that point in his career that he can
go to a to a receiver and say, hey, you
should have caught that ball. You know, uh, Mousa Mohammet
he didn't miss those kind of blocks. I mean, that's
what he was good for. On the defensive side of
the ball. We had Luke Keithley, we had Thomas Davis
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over the years, We've had Mike Minners. We've had guys
that we're not afraid to step up and be leaders.
Who's the leader on this football team? I couldn't tell
you one leader on the defensive side of the ball.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Sure, J C.
Speaker 15 (32:13):
Horn is a good cover guy, but there are no
leaders on the defensive side of the ball. And this
coach had probably the worst defense ever in the NFL
last year. And I just questioned, you know, should he
still be our coach? Supporting?
Speaker 3 (32:32):
No, You're you're right to question.
Speaker 15 (32:33):
Defense we had, we had opportunities in the first quarter.
We had him at second and twenty and they could
be in second and namy and I wouldn't have any
confidence that we're going to get the top.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
You're not wrong.
Speaker 15 (32:47):
Way that we cover. There is nobody out there that
can cover a tight end or a back out of
the offense. You know, we talked about four threes and
three fours.
Speaker 9 (32:57):
I mean, throw that.
Speaker 15 (32:58):
Out the window. Every time we line up. They got
eight guys coming for our quarterback.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Yep, Hey, John, great great phone call, buddy. I appreciate you.
I'm not running you out of here, but there's another
John waiting. You made a hell of a lot of
good points there. I can't address them all, but it
was a great phone call. Now, John number two, just
in the interest of time, John number two, what's going on?
Speaker 7 (33:16):
Yeh, I'll make this quick kV.
Speaker 11 (33:18):
Sorry man.
Speaker 7 (33:19):
First off of Derrick Henry thing already spit up blood
watching my team's play. I might as well get paid
for it, you know what I mean. But the two
callers before the interview, both of will must champions South Carolina,
and I don't know if South Carolina fans think they
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pulled for Alabama or Notre Dame or something, but Will
must chant through three seasons and I'm trying hard not
to laugh at this as the most wins in South
Carolina history at twenty two.
Speaker 11 (33:55):
Huh, yes, twenty.
Speaker 7 (33:58):
Two wins in three seasons is the most in South
Carolina football history. And also, as a side note, in
the one hundred plus years of South Carolina football history,
they have never had a head coach leave the program
and get another head coaching job afterwards.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
Interesting interesting fact.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Now, just so I'm clear, you're not saying that Will
Muchchamp is the winningest head coaching program history of twenty
two wins, because that's that's wrong.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Steve Spurrier won right, first three years, first three years?
Speaker 4 (34:29):
Okay, I got you, I gotcha, gotcha real quick.
Speaker 7 (34:34):
He wasn't the one.
Speaker 12 (34:36):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, okay, thank you, yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Yeah, it's a good call. I'm glad you said that.
Thank you very much.
Speaker 5 (34:43):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
That's a good point because he started out like he
exceeded expectations to start out. But once you got to
like past year three, once they lost to Belke Ball
and got shut out by Bryce Perkins and Virginia that's
when it was over.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
All right, real quick, we're up against it. We got
to go to smoke on the headlines, all right.
Speaker 6 (35:01):
I thought I messed up.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Now I did that. That's my fault. I didn't hit
the hang.
Speaker 6 (35:03):
Up button, all right.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
So I feel like a lot of people are gonna
be very interested in this one. According to Pete Knakos, Haines,
King was a full go at practice on Tuesday and
is tracking to play this weekend against Clemson.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
Okay, to me, that's what I expected.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Yeah, that's probably he probably could have played last week,
but they knew what was ahead. It was Gartern web
toos like, dude, we'll just get our back up, our
freshman some run against the running Bulldogs, and then we'll
try to win the game against clemsonr We gonna h
a break quick, quick, real quick. We'll come back and
wrap up the show. Sports Radio ninety two seven wfn Z, Hey,
(35:51):
real quick. Shout out to Sam Farber, voice of the Hornets.
Earlier when we were talking about the coaches that we
knew early on were destined to be fired. Uh, Sam
Barber hit me with a chip Kelly forty nine ers
offal and then Steve Sarkisian at USC Ever, the Bay
Area Boys Sam Farber hitting me with both Chip Kelly
and Steve Sarkisian. So shout out to Voice of the Hornet,
(36:12):
Sam Farber. Hey, I just got my email today that
our annual media luncheon with Charles Lee, head coach of
the Hornets is now in seven days. I'm sorry ten days,
ten days, and we're what a month away from preseason basketball?
Speaker 5 (36:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Absolutely, that's the season that sneaks up with every single year.
All right, we got to catch you up on what
you've missed. It's time for the rewind and we go
back to our number one, the birthday boy, Nick Carbony
turning the Big four to zero today joined us. That's
how we celebrated his birthday with us. And here's Nick
Carboni saying, the Panthers have no choice but to stick
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with Xavier lee get for the time being.
Speaker 16 (36:48):
A lot of people are probably out on him like
you are, but the Panthers cannot afford to be out
on Xavier leaet, at least.
Speaker 14 (36:56):
Not right now.
Speaker 16 (36:57):
I think he will have better moments, but he's got
a lot to make up for. He's got an uphill
climb given the kind of hole he's dug himself in
early in his career here with the drops last year
in those big moments, and then coming into this year
had to be all about you know, he needs to improve. Okay,
then Adam Feeling is traded.
Speaker 9 (37:18):
We're gonna need you to get on that right away.
Speaker 5 (37:20):
Xcel oh.
Speaker 16 (37:20):
And then Jalen Poker is injured. Now we really need it,
and we need it now, and the team didn't get
what they needed from him in Game one.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Later in the show, Ryan McGee, ESPN Senior writer on
what should be the level of concern for Clemson fans
after a close call against Troy and with Georgia Tech looming, between.
Speaker 17 (37:39):
The rain and the delay and all those things that
happened to so many games throughout the Southeast. It was
a lethargic feeling game. And you know South Coron did
the same thing with South Carolina State. It just it
was hard to get going. But that being said, it
didn't look very inspired. I don't think that really affects
how Clemson's gonna be ready this weekend. I think that they,
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you know, they would treated Troy like a bye week,
and they should have, but they need to be careful
because I think Georgia.
Speaker 5 (38:07):
Tech is a wrecking ball team.
Speaker 17 (38:10):
I don't believe that they're good enough to win the
Atlantic Coast Conference, but they are certainly good enough to
ruin it for a bunch of other people. And so yeah,
I'm with you. If if the guy, if the man
is healthy, then they were going to be tough anyway,
but I think they're particularly gonna be tough now because
they're kind of feeling themselves down at Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
Right later in the same conversation, more from Ryan McGee
on if he's surprised by Joey Aguilar's hot start at Tennessee.
Speaker 5 (38:35):
The reality of.
Speaker 17 (38:35):
Nico was was that when he looked great, he looked great,
but most of the time he looked pretty pedestrian. And
I thought that Tennessee succeeded, you know, honestly, in spite
of Nico a lot of times last year.
Speaker 5 (38:46):
They had the best running back in the country in.
Speaker 17 (38:47):
My opinion, and so that's why they play as well
as they did.
Speaker 5 (38:51):
So I think it's great.
Speaker 17 (38:52):
I'm not surprised based on what the people at that
state told me.
Speaker 5 (38:56):
And what the people in Knoxville were telling me.
Speaker 17 (38:58):
But I am surprised that happened as quickly as it has,
and he better be on this.
Speaker 5 (39:02):
This weekend because the bulldogs are playing angry.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
That's the rewind to look back into the show each
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Speaker 3 (39:17):
We sure would appreciate it.
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Speaker 4 (39:29):
Tip my cap to Nick Carbony because he and I
treat birthdays the same way.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
We do not like telling people, but damn I was
gonna do that too. But I'll tip my cap to
Brian Snitker. He was my hoho bald out earlier in
the show. Big Brian Snitker fan is a guy. I mean,
I know Braves fans love him too, but I'm a
big Brian snicker fan. Eight hundredth career win last night
in that went over the cup, So tip of the
cap to snit We are back tomorrow, looking forward to
it until then. For Smoke Clubwig, I'm Kyle Bailey Sports
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Speaker 5 (39:56):
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
What coach did you know right away was the wrong hire?
The guy that you knew immediately was a mistake and
was going to end up fired and it came with
a pricey buyout or set the organization back multiple years.
That's a question that we're having some fun with right
now in the FanDuel text line seven oh four five,
seven ninety six ten.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
For some, it's not fun.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
For some it brings back very traumatic memories of rooting
for the worst versions of their favorite football teams. But man,
it's the list is fantastic. And I'm getting a surprising
number of Mike Dunlap texts from the FanDuel text line.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
And if you're an.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
OG Charlotte basketball fan, Horne or Bobcats, but especially the Bobcats,
that is an era, albeit brief, that you can't forget
because smoke. You can probably remind me on this Mike Dunlap,
I it was a shocking hire when it happened because
he was basically a college guy at that point. It
was like the it was the Bobcat's equivalent of hiring
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Matt Ruhle.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
So it was immediately after the seven and fifty nine seasons,
right right, right exactly so where Dunlap had been where
Saint John's I believe, and then he was the interim
at Arizona.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
Is that right.
Speaker 6 (01:34):
I'm trying to look up his resume.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Okay, well, you can check me on that, but I
just they were so bad. I remember specifically watching Sports
Center back then and some of the losing streaks that
those teams went on under the guidance of Mike Dunlap.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
I think they had, so Okay, I found his resume
from two thousand and six to two thousand and eight,
that's when the Nuggets traded for Ai. Yeah, he was
with the dinver I stare. He was an assistant at
Arizona for one year, an assistant at Oregon for one
year I think that was the first year of Dana
Altman at Oregon, and then for three years he was
an assistant at Saint John's before taking a Bobcat's job.
(02:12):
No head coaching experience in the NBA, only like three
years of an experience in the NBA period, and I
believe the guy he worked for at Saint John's was
a guy who was kicked, thrown off the team, or
fired for throwing basketball.
Speaker 6 (02:26):
As at players.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Yes, I can't remember his name, Oh my.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Gosh, so yeah, yeah, yeah, it's Everdad or he was
uctually or was that Rutgers head coach he.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Was It was the Rutgers head coach already, it was
the Rutgers head coach. But either way, it was weird
because Mike Dunlap was this. Rachel just said, did not
expect Mike Dunlap talk today, nor did I, Rachel. But
he was like this want to be hard ass kind
of coach.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
But yeah, Ben Gordon almost went almost got into a
fight with him.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Yeah, but like he also wanted to bring some of
the like that's why I said, said Matt Rule, Like
Matt Rule brought some of that collegiate type feel, some
of the college style stuff that didn't vibe with veteran
professional players. Mike Dunlap went through some of that same stuff,
like he wanted to press all the time and tramp
all the time, and you know that just doesn't work
as well in the NBA.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Holy crap, what's that? He actually won a ring. Who
did Mike Dunlap did he really with who he won
with the Milwaukee Bucks? He was his assistant. I didn't
know that he was an assistant with Charles Lee. Wow,
oh my, oh dear god.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
How about that? All right?
Speaker 2 (03:23):
We learned you learn something new every day. So Mike
Dunlap has made some really frequent appearances on the text line.
During this conversation, Jeff Collins at Georgia Tech a lot
of Steve Clifford two point zero, which I mean, who
didn't feel that way? Like we all like cliff but
a second time really knee jerk reaction firing of Brego.
(03:44):
Then Kenny Atkinson leaves you with the altar, and it's like, well,
I guess we'll go back to Steve.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Like nobody, nobody had high hopes.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
We try to talk ourselves into well, you know, it
looks like the most talented roster Steve's ever coached.
Speaker 6 (03:53):
So just because we actually had to watch all a two.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Games, we had to find something seven O four numbers
said Steve's with the then Washington Redskins.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Okay, that one I get.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Panthero says Will mush Champ as a Gator football fan,
dude humps dead sharks.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
That's a different guy. That's a different guy. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Must Champ didn't hump the dead sharks. Who humped the
dead sharks? It wasn't Ron Zook, It was the other guy. Oh,
he's not a head coach mckaway. Yeah, And we found
out it wasn't Jim mcwayne. It was the CEO of
Was it the CEO of Jimmy Johns at the time?
Speaker 5 (04:27):
Was it? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (04:28):
I think I think Kayleb Presley did a whole entire
like he did his own like pablutry finds out, except
he did it actually own campus interviewing Jim mcaway And
unfortunately that's Jim mcawaye's is a photo of someone that
looks like him, Yeah, with a.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Shark like he'll always be remembered as the guy who
humps sharks but didn't actually hump the dead shark. And
the crazy thing is Kyle he got Florida to the
SEC Championship Game one year. He really did. He really
did Urban Meyer with the Jags. That's a really good one.
Somebody said, can we actually say Frank Reich, Yeah you can.
Although that one was like the definition of whiplash in
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this conversation. Some people, to their credit, jumped on it
right away, but there were a lot of people that
looked at it like, Okay, maybe Frank's not the most
exciting hire, but look at all the investment they're making
around him, look at all these accomplished veteran coaches that
surely this has got to work out, right, it's got
to be And then by about week four you realized, oh,
he's got no energy and didn't really want to do this,
(05:29):
and there's no agreement in the offensive coaching staff room
about what kind of offense they want to be. Frank said.
When Frank said the thing about or when the story
came out, I guess it was. And there was that
quote where they're like, we'll work on Bryce's footwork next year.
Remember that whose story was that somebody I think I
was Joe.
Speaker 6 (05:46):
Person Diana Orsini right after he got fired.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Yeah, and the report came out that they were, you know,
inside the building. Frank was like, we'll work on his
footwork next year. It's like, what, like entire offenses are
designed around footwork and timing of quarterback drops. As we
saw again on Sunday, do you mean you'll work on
his footwork next year. And I was reminded of that
when Dave Canalis was asked yesterday, Hey, are you going
to work on sliding with Bryce?
Speaker 3 (06:08):
He was like, eh, maybe.
Speaker 6 (06:11):
He didn't want to.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
He didn't want to bury him. That's what he didn't
want to do, because that that sounded the way he said.
Maybe it was like yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
But it's the same thing to me as like the
whole Dan Morgan and not mentioning the playoffs, just say
the truth and move on. Yes, you have to work
on your quarterback sliding. I mean forgot like when little
Bryce he went away for summer this year and he
had his summer reading list or his summer you know,
work list like he did when he was a kid,
or we all did. It should have been, hey, go
to a kid's baseball camp for a week and learn
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how to slide. Like the fact, like the fact that
the answer is maybe, yeah, your quarterback needs to know
how to slide, okay, and save me some of the
texts I got yesterday that they was like, well, you know,
he was stumbling and so like at that point he
couldn't say you're right, but he s he should have
slid three to four yards earlier before he started slide
as stumbling on Sunday, which led to the turnover.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Of course.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
So anyway, the coach that you knew was just wrong
from the beginning seven oh four, five, seven ninety six
to ten. A few more of these, Willie Taggart at
Florida State from a seven oh four number. I can't
claim that one. No, I didn't know what to make
of that one. I think whoever was going to be
the coach at that point was going to be screwed. Yeah,
just because Jimbo literally left it out in the garbage can. Yeah,
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rich Rod at Michigan from Carolina mays I like, I
don't know, I got to put myself back in that
timeline of when that happened. It did seem like most
people felt that Michigan made a grand slam higher of
rich Rodriguez at West or at Michigan coming from West Virginia.
I remember a lot of people feeling like that was
(07:43):
a great hire from Michigan.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Am I wrong about that?
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Because it was a lot of Alabama fans are wanting
Rich Rod because it was a lot of it was
basically the talk was Rich Roder Nick Saban, who's going
to be the guy?
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. Bud Foster was also in on
some of that discussion too. I believe at one point,
uh oh, captain from Foxcroft, Brian Harson at Auburn.
Speaker 6 (08:03):
That's that.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Yeah, like in the last ten years. Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know, last ten years. Brian Harson might be
the answer to that question.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
It's either him or Less Miles at Kansas. Yeah, okay,
most Kansas football hires over the last fifteen I knew
that one right away. Yeah, yeah, I knew that one
right away. All right, seven oh four five, seven ninety
six ten. Somebody said just jumped in. What sparked the
conversation me declaring that Brent Price is done at Virginia Tech.
It breaks my heart.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
You know how much I love my Hochies, But I
believe Brent Prie the era is over at Virginia Tech.
And if he loses to ODU this weekend, they have
to fire him after the game.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
They just have to.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
You got a former head coach on staff and Philip Montgomery,
let him finish the season, start looking for your new ad,
and then you can let that guy hire the next
football coach.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
And that's why.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
So there were a couple of people surprised that I'm
already calling to fire the head coach after two weeks.
I don't want to, but there's no evidence he's a
good head football coach.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
I'll also say this, if if you guys lose to
him again, why even scheduled him? Because they've gotten your
number for the better part of a decad, They're not
going to moving forward.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
They've canceled future games because of now the ACC's emphasis
on TV ratings. Right, but seriously, because the TV ratings
are now a part of this revenue sharing formula, these
teams are now incentivized to play bigger non conference games
that'll draw more eyeballs. As we saw last week in
Week one, how massive those TV ratings were in Week one.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
And I'll say it would be very ironic if he
does get fired after a loss to Old Dominion, because
his first game was against Old Dominion. If you remember,
in that game, that's when the coaching staff got stuck
in the elevator.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Yep, yep.
Speaker 6 (09:38):
That might have been a metaphor for howes Era was
going to go.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Take some phone calls. Rod is up first, in this segment, Rod,
what's going on, buddy? Oh we got him? Oh Carolina J.
That's Carolina J. Smoke, not Rod Jay. What's going on?
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (09:54):
No, no much man.
Speaker 8 (09:55):
I thought I was thinking in my own head. Hey man,
I got for your uh Cataba great Jim thumps Thula
from San Francisco. I knew that was gonna be a
disaster right right away. But I got another one for
you guys. This is for the color blue, right, because
we're processed blue, right, So I was thinking about it.
(10:16):
It's a process, right, We've been in the process for
a long time. I'm just grasping a straw kit trying
to find the stiverligning right. I need a psychiatrist, but
I'm still gonna watch the game. It feels like, you know,
just your girlfriend who cheats on you. You know she's no good,
but you know you can't leave her alone. That's how
I feel about my Panthers. And then with the blue maybe, Kyle,
we need to get a sponsor. Give the players some
(10:39):
blue shoe and the coaches some blue shoes, so they'll
play hard and coach hard.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
I'll hit the rest off the head, poke somebody's eye
on out there anyway seven four five, seven ninety six
ten hit us up on the fan duel text line Matt,
Matt and Greens Bros.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Up next.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
What's up? Matt?
Speaker 9 (10:59):
Hey, guys, what's going on? I know you're talking to
this coaching h discussion.
Speaker 10 (11:06):
But he said some a minute, I know he's talking
about brike and the foot foot work with with Bryce.
Uh did you see the dan On Lasky breakdown of Bryce.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
I did.
Speaker 11 (11:16):
Yeah, So that kind of Triggeredsef when he.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
Was talking about that.
Speaker 10 (11:22):
Are they trying to mess with his footwork again? Because
it because the way he put it, you know, Bryce
is kind of trying to take that little hitch out
of his drop back and throwing off this time.
Speaker 11 (11:32):
In a little bit.
Speaker 9 (11:33):
Maybe, I'm not sure.
Speaker 11 (11:35):
I mean.
Speaker 9 (11:37):
They kind of let Bryce do what he could, you.
Speaker 10 (11:38):
Know, be him when he was playing well.
Speaker 9 (11:41):
And not mess with him so much. The coach is
going and try to, you.
Speaker 10 (11:46):
Know, change a player for what he's doing, can do comfortable.
Speaker 9 (11:49):
And can mess him up.
Speaker 10 (11:50):
And then I hope this coach is staff isn't doing that.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Yeah, No, it's a it's a good point, Matt. I
did watch or Lobsky's film breakdown. He points to a
couple of instances from Sunday where Bryce's footwork is a
little sloppy, which is something that improved last year once
he got back on the field. And that's something that
a lot of quarterbacks, you know, they continue to struggle
with in their first handful of years. They get more
and more consistent, but when you're under duress, one of
the first things to falter is your footwork, and especially
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when you're out there just you know your center is
firing snaps above your head off to the right, down
at your shins. That's going to throw off footwork. So
Bryce was responsible for some of it. Austin Corbett was
responsible for some of it. But yeah, I would encourage
everybody to go watch with Lobski's break down of Bryce
over the weekend. Like he points out the flaws, but
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he also says lest it's not the end of the world,
and some of it is understandable why it happens. Let's
see here. Paul is up next on the phones. Paul,
what's going on, man, thank you for the call.
Speaker 11 (12:46):
What's up? What's up?
Speaker 12 (12:48):
Kyle?
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Kyle just leaving the dentist. I'm normally working at this hour,
but leaving the dentist, listening to what you guys have
to were talking about. I have a call in Okaya.
Were you just kind of thought it was going to
work out? Did you guys already hit mushamp in South Carolina?
Speaker 2 (13:05):
We got mush Champ in Florida. We did not get
mush Champ in South Carolina.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Yet, Oh mushampens South Carolina a hot mess. Also, Ray
Hanley taking over the Giants after Bill Parcells didn't feel
like it was going to work out, and it did.
Wo and and any coach and any any coach taking
over the Jets is just a bad sat I and
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on and on our quarterback. I gotta tell you, I'm
sixty three years old. I've watched a bunch of the NFL.
I don't know I this quarterback, this GM, this team,
this this time and place, you know, with footwork, whether
leget can't uh can't slide and staying down that offensive line.
(13:55):
I mean a lot of excuses about all kinds of things.
I don't know.
Speaker 12 (14:01):
I don't know about this kid.
Speaker 11 (14:03):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Me saying I don't like him.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
It's fair, I don't don't I'm not mad at anybody
who feels like he's he's not proven anything yet.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
And thank you for the phone call, Paul.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
I'm not mad at anybody who thinks that somebody Turbot
told me earlier.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
KB.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
I think you're making some good points about Bryce not
being nearly as bad as some people thought he was
on Sunday. But to me, he hasn't shown himself to
be a difference maker yet, and that's what concerns me.
That to me is a great That's that to me
is where the mindset should be.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
Right.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Can you can he prove that he's a difference maker
this year with his arm? If he can, awesome. If
he can't, well, you know what the next steps are?
Seven oh four, five, seven ninety six to ten. Mark
from Charlotte is up next. Mark, what's going on? Thanks
for the call, Thank great show man, Thank you.
Speaker 13 (14:47):
Uh this is this is really killing me. This is
the first game of the season with the passes, new
pieces on the defensive line. Offensive line was trash and
we wanted to throw Bryce away. We want to get
rid of day Canalis. It's the first game of the
season and so let's stop panicking. Let everybody make adjustments.
(15:08):
What you do after after each game and wants to
see one of them foals. And I believe Bryant is
gonna be all right, and probably with about four or
five games in, we're gonna be seeing a different tunnel.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Yeah maybe, Mark, thank you for the phone call. And
I said earlier in the show one of my I
don't know. It's not a pet peeve. I've been a
little perturbed by the folks who jumped to it looks
like Week one last year. No, it didn't Week one
last year. There was nothing good. Go back and rewatch
Sunday's game against Jacksonville. Bryce made some terrible plays, but
he also threw a bunch of dimes, some big throws
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that should have resulted in scores, chunk plays.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
And if guys make plays.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Even on a rough day, we're heaping praise on them
today potentially for being resilient, right, for overcoming adversity, for
not quitting, but instead, dudes who get paid to catch
balls aren't catching balls real quick PSL tray is up,
next tray?
Speaker 3 (15:57):
What's going on?
Speaker 14 (15:59):
Hey, kV, I had one for the for the coaches.
You knew it was going to be a disaster, but
Paul took it from me. I was gonna say, will
much champ Uh. You know he failed at Florida and
then Ray Tanners always thought he would be able to
succeed in Columbia. I just not sure what he was thinking.
But a quick note, you know, since you were talking
about Bryce Young, I keep hearing over and over again,
(16:21):
Oh well, you know, the team around them, the team
around them. If this guy needs the perfect supporting cast
to be consistently deep or to be decent consistently, then
he's never gonna get us anywhere anyway, you know what
I mean, Like we I'm tired of like hearing that
you know about the drops and the dolphensive mind. All
those things are true and they're definitely an issue. But
(16:43):
like great quarterbacks, you know, especially ones where he trade
up the first overall, like they have to be able
to overcome those things.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Yeah, difference You got to be a difference maker.
Speaker 14 (16:54):
Yeah yeah, but yeah, appreciate the show. I'll hang up
and listen. But that's all I just wanted to give.
Speaker 9 (17:00):
Oh and one other thing.
Speaker 14 (17:01):
I genuinely think that society is going to collapse before
the Panthers shield a good football team again. Like I
really I think we've missed our Super Bowl windows because
by the time it opens back up, we're gonna be
like fighting over.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Water probably, so youway, the water wars will be here. Yeah,
I agree with that. Thank you, brother, Thank you so much.
PSL tray checking in. All right, listen, we'll come back.
We'll try to squeeze in some more phone calls. I
promise you that, but Al Wallace, former Panthers defensive end,
we'll stop by. Next Sports Radio ninety two to seven
wfn Z. All right, so quick question for you. So
(17:44):
one of our listeners, my guy Jamil, all right, shout
out Dreamial. He sent me this on Instagram and my
DMS a little while ago. It's a FanDuel sportsbook post.
It asked the question, all right, well, it's less of
a I guess it's a question. It says you get
twenty million dollars, but Derrick Henry has to randomly truck
you once a month for the rest of your life.
Are you taking the money twenty million cash, but once
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a month, every month for the rest of your life
out of nowhere, Derrick Henry is just going to Tarry
Tate office linebacker. You're ass you said, twenty million a month, right, No, No, No,
twenty million total. Now you get a one time cash payment,
tax free twenty million dollars and that's it. But for
the rest of your natural born life, Derrick Henry gets
(18:27):
to come out of nowhere and declete you, or at least.
Speaker 6 (18:30):
Attempted to subtract the medical colls that it would be.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Yeah, I think I'd take it, just because I know.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
He's older than me. If you invest you that's a
good point too.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
If you invest that money properly, then the interest should
cover your medical bills every year.
Speaker 5 (18:45):
True.
Speaker 6 (18:45):
True.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
The flip side though, is you might end up with CTE,
So I want to throw that out here.
Speaker 6 (18:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
No, FanDuel text line. I'm sorry, FanDuel sportsbook, but both
are appropriate. You get twenty million dollars cash, but Derek
Henry gets to absolutely demolish you once a month for
the of your life. Well as a guy on the
phone line who I think is better equipped to withstand
that than pretty much anybody in this conversation. Al Wallace,
former Carolina Panthers defensive end, is back with us for
(19:10):
the first time in a while on the hotline for
a Tuesday conversation Al Wallace twenty million cash, but Derek
Henry's coming out of nowhere once a month.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
You're taking it?
Speaker 12 (19:18):
No, sir, have you seen that? That's an alien? No,
that's not enough cash.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
What would the price tag be?
Speaker 12 (19:27):
Man a hundred million when I was twenty one. I'm
fifty one now, No, shot man, that's gonna hurt. That's
not good enough.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Yeah, I'd probably take it, knowing he'd kill me by
week by month three. But my kids have a nice
little nest egg when I'm dead and gone. So all right, Well,
get in truck. That's about how Panthers fans felt roughly
four o'clock Sunday afternoon, really ugly opener down in Jacksonville.
You've been a part of a lot of good and
a lot of bad in your career. The NFL's hard,
but this one was different.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Al.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
I think you and I both agree on that, because
this team finished strong last year, and the offense had
high hopes, and they spent a ton of money on
the defensive line. But unfortunately it looked like more of
the same, didn't it.
Speaker 11 (20:06):
Yeah, And you know what, I.
Speaker 12 (20:08):
Think a lot of teams feel a little just struck.
Speaker 11 (20:12):
You know, this first game of the season because.
Speaker 12 (20:14):
The expectations and the high hopes are always there for
all the franchises, but for this team, coming off the
way that the season ended with Bryce Young and the
success that running game, and then all the additions in
their off season with the defensive tackles and the return
of Derek Brown, you were hoping for a better performance.
And for me, the word that comes to mind is
(20:35):
just disappointing. It was disappointing. I'm a little bit confused
with the team, and then the way they look and
just the lack of energy. It just didn't look like
a game one, like guys were starving, like they were
hungry dogs waiting to go out there and take on
the Jags in their building.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Well, and the thing is that we often get back
to this conversation of is it more lack of execution
or more on coaching or lack of preparedness. You know,
I've been particularly hard on the coaching staff this week
because I didn't feel like that team came out prepared.
I thought they were too disorganized, multiple timeouts before the
play clock could expire, having a hard time getting a
play call in running the play clock down to nearly
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one second on the clock every single play outside of
I think two drives where they went hurry up and
some tempo. Like I look at the coaching staff a
little bit sideways this week coming out of Week one,
not just because your team looked that way out, but
because you lost it to a coaching staff that was
coaching together and making its debut for the first time
in the NFL.
Speaker 12 (21:28):
Yeah, that's the huge question. Why was zape Canals's second
year staff not more prepared than Liam Cohen in his
staff down in Jacksonville, who just got there, just got
all of the new pieces. What's the excuse before doing that?
It just feels like there's no sense of urgency for
consecutive training camps right where the starters don't play much.
(21:49):
There's not a sense of urgency at practice. You are
practicing the practice, but did you practice to get better
or is it enough competitive situations? I'm honestly asking that question.
I went to maybe two or three practices. I'm not
there every day, so I don't know the answer. But
what I do know is when I played in the
NFL preseason meant something. Those rehearsals, those dress rehearsals meant something,
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and if you're bypassing those for the sake of preserving bodies,
you're gonna be behind. You're just now starting with those
the starting group to get the physical part of the
football game going. And you saw a team that went
out there and got out physical. Jacksonville just looked like
they were ready for the contact and it showed up
on the play the scoreboards.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
So glad you brought up the preseason, because you know,
the messaging was very different. Al as you well know,
coming into this season, Dan wanted more prep, he wanted
multiple joint practices. We got a practice in the heat
in Houston to get ready for Jacksonville in Week one,
and so we're all thinking, oh, these starters are gonna
play a lot more in the preseason this year. And
then we end up with that speech in Houston where
Dave's like, well, I took them off the field because
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they didn't earn more snaps out there, and everybody was
confused by that. Like with Bryce specifically, I watched a
quarterback on who certainly looked better than he did a
year ago and the opener against New Orleans, but not
good enough, and he looked very out of rhythm. It
seems to me that the preseason would have been the
right time to get your quarterback in rhythm.
Speaker 12 (23:11):
Yeah, that's the perfect time. You need to see those
receivers come out of breaks. That offensive line has to
have real competition, a real contact. Those running backs and
the receivers have to feel, how you know, the hits
coming to the going to the ground. So without doing
that in the preseason, you're really trying to ramp up
Week one live in action on the field, and I
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don't think that's good enough. I'm certainly not as qualified
as Dave Canalls and my buddy Dan Morgan as a
general manager to make those types of calls.
Speaker 11 (23:41):
But what I do know is my.
Speaker 12 (23:42):
Experience on the football field, and it takes a number
of reps, a number of snaps to harden your body
to the game, And if you don't catch up to
the speed in the preseason, it blows your way. We
all often talk about how the intensity ramps up from
the regular season to the postseason. Well, the same thing
happens from pre season a regular season. The Panthers looked
like a team who they were not prepared. The game
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was moving too fast for on Week one.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
I thought Xavier League yet did a lot of damage
to his perception among this fan base and maybe even
internally after Sunday. It wasn't just the lack of a
tow drag, it was the immediate I'm not going to
block in this short yardage situation. Mark Schlareth lit him
up on the broadcast for that. How frustrating is his
start to the season.
Speaker 12 (24:25):
Gosh, I wish I had another word for you, And
I know I'm going to sound like recording, but it's
disappointing because all off season and in the preseason, we
see the catches, We talk about how hard he works,
the work he's put into his body. But what really
matters is if you're going to go out there and
sell out, sacrifice yourself for your teammates, and on a
short yardage run where you're moved in close so you
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can block the ind man on the line, you don't
get it done. And I was one hundred percent in
agreement with Mark Slare because it's unacceptable and it's not
just the one play. It is a bunch of stuff
that he's putting on film that's not okay with wide receivers.
I know wide receiver coaches, of course, a lot of
guys I've played with, they talked about that. I've talked
to him over the last twenty four hours, and they
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just don't understand a guy who looks the part but
doesn't play the part. For me, it's just so confusing.
And yeah, that doesn't help with the narrative that's been
going on since he got here, especially coming off of
a really underwhelming season in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
What were your thoughts on the Adam Feeling trade? Both
the timing of it. They couldn't have known Jalen Kocher
was going to get hurt a week later. But what
was your reaction when they traded Adam Feeling because that's
a big part of this conversation too.
Speaker 11 (25:33):
Yeah, I think a.
Speaker 12 (25:34):
Huge part of Adam playing, and we saw him play
in Minnesota last night, it's because that's where he wanted
to be. I don't believe Adam wanted to be here.
He told us that in his own way when he
decided to have the conversation about maybe I should retire.
So if you're Dan Morgan, you're Dave Canalis as good
as he is, as much of a help as he
could have been for Bryce in this offense, let's see
(25:56):
what we can get for him. Let's start looking towards
the future. So I understand the tough position that they
were in with Adam Thieling. So it was confusing. And
I think even with Jalen Cocher, is he a difference
maker enough in this offense that you're gonna miss him?
Speaker 11 (26:11):
I don't think.
Speaker 7 (26:12):
So.
Speaker 12 (26:13):
The time is now for t MAC, the time is
now for XL. You need some of those other guys
to step up, and we're the hell out of the
tight end. That's how you supplement the loss of Adam Thieln.
You get the tight ends involved. And for the life
of me, for the last two years, I'm just gonna
go with you know, coach here, coach kanalas.
Speaker 11 (26:29):
Here, and not the other regimes. The tight ends have
just not been a.
Speaker 12 (26:32):
Part of this offense.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Al almost called you Al Michaels al Waller's former Panthers
defensive end with us here on a Tuesday afternoon. The
defense you are particularly suited to talk about this seven
straight games, they've given up two hundred plus yards rushing
in the thirty five games of a zero of Vero
as the defensive coordinator. Twenty six of those thirty five games,
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they've given up at least one hundred and twenty yards rushing.
Some of that we can excuse because of injuries and
lack of talent, but it continues to happen. I've got
people on my text line al screaming about the three
fours garbage. We got to go back to the four
to three. They got a fire as zero. Vero, you're
a former defender. You know what it takes to play
good defense. When you watch this group, should they be better?
(27:17):
Why is this happening? What are your thoughts on the
way Vero is orchestrating this defense.
Speaker 11 (27:24):
It's the most puzzling thing.
Speaker 12 (27:25):
Let me just start with coach ej. He's highly respected,
he's proved.
Speaker 11 (27:29):
In the NFL that he is a guy that can
get it done.
Speaker 12 (27:32):
At a very high level.
Speaker 11 (27:34):
But right now, what we're seeing with the.
Speaker 12 (27:35):
Panthers is a defense that just it doesn't fit the scheme.
So as much as people want to point the finger
at the three to four, you think it would be
much better if it was a four to three. I
don't know if it's a scheme or personnel or both,
but none of it is looking good. Those statistics are alarming.
Speaker 11 (27:51):
I didn't even know that.
Speaker 12 (27:52):
Twenty six times over one hundred and twenty yards. You
go into every Monday meeting and your number one goal
is to stop the run. You can't do anything else.
You don't stop the run, you don't earn the right
to pass rush, you don't affect the throws from a quarterback,
and you're not gonna get turnovers when teams just decide
that they can just hand it off and pound the
rock like that. So it's gonna be one of those
(28:12):
things that you know people are going to continue to criticize,
and I think it's a little bit of both. The
three four on its own works. You can see that
with the Pittsburgh Steelers, but go look at the Houston Texans.
All those teams roll out the same type of defense.
Now you look at Kyle, do you have the right personnel?
And I think for years that's been the question for me.
(28:33):
I'm just gonna look at one guy. Is Derek Brown
a three four defensive end? My answer is going to
be no. Put that guy at knows one technique in
a four to three or the three technique in a
four to three, and have him penetrate reading reacting. Derek
Brown just takes a little bit away from him when
you saw him at Auburn, when you saw him rip
off one hundred and three tackles, it's because he played
(28:53):
on the other side of the ball. They had one
tackle for loss, z ro sacks this pass game against
one of the you know, not a they're a good
offense from last year. Let me just say that. So
a lot has to be said with scheming the guys
up in the best spot. It has nothing to do
with three four or four to three.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
It's just not a good defense right now, all right,
Last thing Arizona on Sunday. We can't think of the
last time a Week two game felt this important, this
big toward well a lot of things, but this does
feel like a game where we're gonna find out what
this team's made of, right, I mean, after the way
you you opened the season, y'all talked to a big
game the team that is of course about improvement this year,
(29:29):
and you know we're going to surprise people and even
some national media saying nice things about you if you
can't go out and respond against Arizona, who historically the
Panthers have owned what does it say about this football team.
Speaker 12 (29:41):
Yeah, it's not going to be good. I mean, weren't
we just here going into Week two of last year
and the whole organization and the fan base got turned
upside down when Bryce jng was bent like, we can't
continue to be in this spot. And Arizona is not
going to be a pushover. James Conner is a really
good running back. That offensive line is gonna be able
to do some damage I think in the running game.
(30:01):
And the oh by the way, Kyler Murray is a
guy who can move around in the pocket and escape
if things don't get easier for the Panthers because coming
home you're gonna have the Atlanta Falcons. So this is
a critical game and it's going to point out a
lot about how quickly this team can take it on
the chin like we saw this weekend and bounce back.
Who's gonna have to fire in their belly? Where's the leadership?
(30:22):
I think all of that is going to be the
huge question when we see this game kickoff. The Panthers
have to go out and put up a better showing.
They need to win, but it better look like a
better organized football team and a team that's putting more
effort out on the toe.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Al Wallace, great having you back, brother. We appreciate the time.
We'll do it again real soon anytime.
Speaker 11 (30:39):
Man appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Thank you, buddy.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Al Wallace, former Panthers defensive end with us on the hotline.
Really good breakdown there of Carolina, both in Jacksonville and
Arizona coming up this week. Now, let me sneak in
a phone callar too. Real quick. We have some folks waiting.
I'm told I have back to back John's who want
to talk Panthers.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Let's go with John. It's gonna be confusing John. I'm
sure the other guys like thinking it's his turn.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
John? Are you with me?
Speaker 15 (31:03):
Hey, I'm here.
Speaker 9 (31:03):
Can you hear me?
Speaker 3 (31:04):
I got your other John settled down?
Speaker 5 (31:05):
All right?
Speaker 3 (31:06):
That we got the first John? All right, John, talk
to me.
Speaker 11 (31:09):
Okay.
Speaker 15 (31:10):
What I wanted to say is, you know, I don't
I don't think we have the leaders on on either
side of the ball. I mean, going back when the
Panthers were good, we had Cam Newton as a leader.
And if you know, if if the sinner wasn't snapping
the ball to him, it may have to once or twice.
But uh, I think he'd be out of a game.
Speaker 11 (31:30):
You know, did did.
Speaker 15 (31:31):
Bryce ever turn to Corbett and say, hey, get the
ball to me. You know, he's gonna have to be
a little bit more of a leader.
Speaker 12 (31:39):
Could he go to again?
Speaker 15 (31:40):
I don't know that that Bryce is. You know, he's
not at that point in his career that he can
go to a to a receiver and say, hey, you
should have caught that ball. You know, uh, Mousa Mohammet
he didn't miss those kind of blocks. I mean, that's
what he was good for. On the defensive side of
the ball. We had Luke Keithley, we had Thomas Davis
(32:02):
over the years, We've had Mike Minners. We've had guys
that we're not afraid to step up and be leaders.
Who's the leader on this football team? I couldn't tell
you one leader on the defensive side of the ball.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Sure, J C.
Speaker 15 (32:13):
Horn is a good cover guy, but there are no
leaders on the defensive side of the ball. And this
coach had probably the worst defense ever in the NFL
last year. And I just questioned, you know, should he
still be our coach? Supporting?
Speaker 3 (32:32):
No, You're you're right to question.
Speaker 15 (32:33):
Defense we had, we had opportunities in the first quarter.
We had him at second and twenty and they could
be in second and namy and I wouldn't have any
confidence that we're going to get the top.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
You're not wrong.
Speaker 15 (32:47):
Way that we cover. There is nobody out there that
can cover a tight end or a back out of
the offense. You know, we talked about four threes and
three fours.
Speaker 9 (32:57):
I mean, throw that.
Speaker 15 (32:58):
Out the window. Every time we line up. They got
eight guys coming for our quarterback.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Yep, Hey, John, great great phone call, buddy. I appreciate you.
I'm not running you out of here, but there's another
John waiting. You made a hell of a lot of
good points there. I can't address them all, but it
was a great phone call. Now, John number two, just
in the interest of time, John number two, what's going on?
Speaker 7 (33:16):
Yeh, I'll make this quick kV.
Speaker 11 (33:18):
Sorry man.
Speaker 7 (33:19):
First off of Derrick Henry thing already spit up blood
watching my team's play. I might as well get paid
for it, you know what I mean. But the two
callers before the interview, both of will must champions South Carolina,
and I don't know if South Carolina fans think they
(33:41):
pulled for Alabama or Notre Dame or something, but Will
must chant through three seasons and I'm trying hard not
to laugh at this as the most wins in South
Carolina history at twenty two.
Speaker 11 (33:55):
Huh, yes, twenty.
Speaker 7 (33:58):
Two wins in three seasons is the most in South
Carolina football history. And also, as a side note, in
the one hundred plus years of South Carolina football history,
they have never had a head coach leave the program
and get another head coaching job afterwards.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
Interesting interesting fact.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Now, just so I'm clear, you're not saying that Will
Muchchamp is the winningest head coaching program history of twenty
two wins, because that's that's wrong.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Steve Spurrier won right, first three years, first three years?
Speaker 4 (34:29):
Okay, I got you, I gotcha, gotcha real quick.
Speaker 7 (34:34):
He wasn't the one.
Speaker 12 (34:36):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, okay, thank you, yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Yeah, it's a good call. I'm glad you said that.
Thank you very much.
Speaker 5 (34:43):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
That's a good point because he started out like he
exceeded expectations to start out. But once you got to
like past year three, once they lost to Belke Ball
and got shut out by Bryce Perkins and Virginia that's
when it was over.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
All right, real quick, we're up against it. We got
to go to smoke on the headlines, all right.
Speaker 6 (35:01):
I thought I messed up.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Now I did that. That's my fault. I didn't hit
the hang.
Speaker 6 (35:03):
Up button, all right.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
So I feel like a lot of people are gonna
be very interested in this one. According to Pete Knakos, Haines,
King was a full go at practice on Tuesday and
is tracking to play this weekend against Clemson.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
Okay, to me, that's what I expected.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Yeah, that's probably he probably could have played last week,
but they knew what was ahead. It was Gartern web
toos like, dude, we'll just get our back up, our
freshman some run against the running Bulldogs, and then we'll
try to win the game against clemsonr We gonna h
a break quick, quick, real quick. We'll come back and
wrap up the show. Sports Radio ninety two seven wfn Z, Hey,
(35:51):
real quick. Shout out to Sam Farber, voice of the Hornets.
Earlier when we were talking about the coaches that we
knew early on were destined to be fired. Uh, Sam
Barber hit me with a chip Kelly forty nine ers
offal and then Steve Sarkisian at USC Ever, the Bay
Area Boys Sam Farber hitting me with both Chip Kelly
and Steve Sarkisian. So shout out to Voice of the Hornet,
(36:12):
Sam Farber. Hey, I just got my email today that
our annual media luncheon with Charles Lee, head coach of
the Hornets is now in seven days. I'm sorry ten days,
ten days, and we're what a month away from preseason basketball?
Speaker 5 (36:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Absolutely, that's the season that sneaks up with every single year.
All right, we got to catch you up on what
you've missed. It's time for the rewind and we go
back to our number one, the birthday boy, Nick Carbony
turning the Big four to zero today joined us. That's
how we celebrated his birthday with us. And here's Nick
Carboni saying, the Panthers have no choice but to stick
(36:46):
with Xavier lee get for the time being.
Speaker 16 (36:48):
A lot of people are probably out on him like
you are, but the Panthers cannot afford to be out
on Xavier leaet, at least.
Speaker 14 (36:56):
Not right now.
Speaker 16 (36:57):
I think he will have better moments, but he's got
a lot to make up for. He's got an uphill
climb given the kind of hole he's dug himself in
early in his career here with the drops last year
in those big moments, and then coming into this year
had to be all about you know, he needs to improve. Okay,
then Adam Feeling is traded.
Speaker 9 (37:18):
We're gonna need you to get on that right away.
Speaker 5 (37:20):
Xcel oh.
Speaker 16 (37:20):
And then Jalen Poker is injured. Now we really need it,
and we need it now, and the team didn't get
what they needed from him in Game one.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Later in the show, Ryan McGee, ESPN Senior writer on
what should be the level of concern for Clemson fans
after a close call against Troy and with Georgia Tech looming, between.
Speaker 17 (37:39):
The rain and the delay and all those things that
happened to so many games throughout the Southeast. It was
a lethargic feeling game. And you know South Coron did
the same thing with South Carolina State. It just it
was hard to get going. But that being said, it
didn't look very inspired. I don't think that really affects
how Clemson's gonna be ready this weekend. I think that they,
(38:01):
you know, they would treated Troy like a bye week,
and they should have, but they need to be careful
because I think Georgia.
Speaker 5 (38:07):
Tech is a wrecking ball team.
Speaker 17 (38:10):
I don't believe that they're good enough to win the
Atlantic Coast Conference, but they are certainly good enough to
ruin it for a bunch of other people. And so yeah,
I'm with you. If if the guy, if the man
is healthy, then they were going to be tough anyway,
but I think they're particularly gonna be tough now because
they're kind of feeling themselves down at Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
Right later in the same conversation, more from Ryan McGee
on if he's surprised by Joey Aguilar's hot start at Tennessee.
Speaker 5 (38:35):
The reality of.
Speaker 17 (38:35):
Nico was was that when he looked great, he looked great,
but most of the time he looked pretty pedestrian. And
I thought that Tennessee succeeded, you know, honestly, in spite
of Nico a lot of times last year.
Speaker 5 (38:46):
They had the best running back in the country in.
Speaker 17 (38:47):
My opinion, and so that's why they play as well
as they did.
Speaker 5 (38:51):
So I think it's great.
Speaker 17 (38:52):
I'm not surprised based on what the people at that
state told me.
Speaker 5 (38:56):
And what the people in Knoxville were telling me.
Speaker 17 (38:58):
But I am surprised that happened as quickly as it has,
and he better be on this.
Speaker 5 (39:02):
This weekend because the bulldogs are playing angry.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
That's the rewind to look back into the show each
and every day as we wrap things up. As a
reminder to get us wherever you get your podcast to Apple, Spotify, Google,
just search the Kyle Bailey Show, download and subscribe.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
We sure would appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
We go tipping our caps courtesy of our friends at Neogenics,
where they help heal joint pain naturally with no surgery,
no medication, no downtime. Go to neogenicstimsales dot com. Smoke
what you got.
Speaker 4 (39:29):
Tip my cap to Nick Carbony because he and I
treat birthdays the same way.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
We do not like telling people, but damn I was
gonna do that too. But I'll tip my cap to
Brian Snitker. He was my hoho bald out earlier in
the show. Big Brian Snitker fan is a guy. I mean,
I know Braves fans love him too, but I'm a
big Brian snicker fan. Eight hundredth career win last night
in that went over the cup, So tip of the
cap to snit We are back tomorrow, looking forward to
it until then. For Smoke Clubwig, I'm Kyle Bailey Sports
(39:54):
Radio ninety two to seven wfn Z.
Speaker 5 (39:56):
You're going to be dead in a one hundred years. Anyway,
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