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Speaker 1 (00:13):
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who was the most disrespected person in the history of
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Charlotte Sports doesn't have to be confined to pro sports,
though I suspect most of them will be, and honestly
have been. But athlete, coach, general manager, other executive media member,
organizing official agent, whoever it may be, who's the person
in twenty twenty five that you think, Man, they just
don't get their due or they're far too disrespected. David
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Tepper's come up a few for sure. Janey and rock
Hill just texted in to say that David Tepper needs
to put us out his ego and apologize to rock
Hill said what he did affected the people's reputation, jobs, futures.
A lot of longtime fans and ticket owners gave the
Panthers up because of him. I'm a Panther fan not
a Tepper fan. I'm still here, but it hasn't been easy.
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Real quick, Janey, I'm sure David Tepper has regrets. I
do hope that you feel the same way about the
rock Hill politicians though that were instrumental in that, and
quite frankly, as I said at the time, and I
stand by it, I hope you have or will be
soon voting them all out because they're incompetent and dishonest.
So I'll leave it at that. Let's welcome in and
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welcome back. Joe Ovious of the Ovious and Julio podcast
Triangle Influencer back with us here on this rainy Tuesday afternoon. Joe,
I appreciate you, brother. What's going on?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Wait, you're telling me that people are saying that David
Tepper has been disrespected.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Yes, there are some who think that he is too
disrespected in the twenty these.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
People related to the Tepper family. Is this a David
Tepper burner phone that's texting the hot Lowe.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Can neither confirm nor deny. I have no idea, but
I can tell you it hasn't been the majority by
any long, by any you know, stretch of the imagination.
But there have been a handful who believed that he
takes too much heat.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Joe, I think he gets an appropriate level of heat.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
That's what also does not helping he gets.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
I think it's like, I think he gets an appropriate
level of heat for what has happened under his stewardship
of the Carolina Panthers and until they actually win something
of note, rather than just going on positive camp vibes
only coming to a T shirt near you that Yeah, man,
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like win something, give me something more than concerts, which
was like the lowest bar thing you could have done
in Charlotte after the previous owner. You see what I'm
saying I do.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
And so you know, it's funny. Somebody asked me earlier.
They say, you know, KB, he took a lot of
heat for the perception being that he handpicked Bryce Young.
Now I've disputed that since the beginning. I think that
has been a little bit overblown. But the point was, Hey,
if it turns out that he's right about Bryce, don't
we have to apologize as it gets to take a
victory lap. I mean to me like yes and no.
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I joke that if I'm David Tepper and Bryce goes in,
balls out, this year, I'm probably going to be insufferable
inside the building and remind everybody this was the guy
that I wanted. So I don't know your thoughts on that.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
I mean to me, if you're talking about disrespect, I'll
just say that Cam Newton is probably the most disrespected
athlete to come out of Charlotte.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
He's popular, I mean, he's popular on the text line
for sure.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
I was gonna say in terms of disrespect, I mean,
we had things being run in the newspaper about his dances,
for Heaven's sake, But anyway, that's either here over there
about Bryce Young and things like that. You know, it's
something that Jilly and I try to take a little
bit more pragic madic approach because we're not there, right,
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I don't have to. I don't have to do what
you do where you're talking about and trying to sell
position battles on a daily basis. Like I jokingly texted
Walker the other day when he was like legitimately with
a serious face talking about like the wide receiver groups
and things like that. And my general attitude is I
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think it's good that the Carolina Panthers have a wide
receiver position battle, which makes it seem like there's been
at least some upgrade at that position, that there are
decisions to make as to who gets to make this team.
I think that's a positive note. But let's also not
act like it's Jerry Rice and the crew. You see
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what I'm getting at. There's some like serious questions that
have to be To me, the biggest storyline for the
Panthers isn't these faux high you know all the hype
that comes out of these camp clips that I mean,
we're talking glorified practice here. What I'm more curious about
is Dave Kanalis actually using the preseason to get some
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work done rather than hiding things, because I think we
saw that last year. If this wide receiver group is
what you think it is, if you think Bryce Young
can take some sort of next step forward, I want
to see this in the preseason. Don't give me like
two passes and get out of there. Work on it,
because they cannot afford to start the season off slow
and then have all the stuff come right back to all.
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You know what it was, Olamas, last year, you got
to come out of the gates top in that regard
for Bryce Young and of course, to me, the thing
that is the most important. That defense has to at
least be mid. I'm not asking for a great defense.
I'm just looking for a basic average defense out of
the Panthers. Then we can talk.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Yep, now, I hear you on that now, Joe, speaking
of the NFL, I want to stay in that realm.
But you know, I'm known for having a particular interest
in sports business, sports media, you even more so, I think,
especially on the sports media side. The news of ESPN
and NFL, this billion dollar deal where ESPN is going
to be assuming the responsibility of it seems much of
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the NFL's media properties, including Red Zone and a few
other things. I mean, this is a massive deal, But
what does it mean to you? And what does it
signal to you about both the future of each respective entity.
But I guess more specifically, what you know, how how
much the NFL wants to be involved in the media side.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
I I cannot wait to have Stephen A. Smith host
Red Channel red Zo.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Can't you think that that?
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Oh yeah, I mean, come on, they're paying these guys
all this money. They're gonna have to get their money's worth, right,
I think what this what this indicates to me and
I think your audience understands this because I listened to
you guys too. Is that NFL is king, right, The
NFL is king, and ESPN is making a very calculated
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decision to get in bed with the league they feel
as most in sortant to their survival. So hold on
a second. I gotta do a little like parenting here, Jacob,
you good, get your hot your stuff, and we're gonna go. Okay.
Hey man, by the way, listen to uh, listen to
Ovi's and Julio and give me the the ad dollars
because this travel hockey ain't paying for itself, guys.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
So anyway, so what this to me indicates is if
you're the SEC, you're the ACC. Actually, you can look
this up. I just saw this headline recently that the
USGA anticipates a television deal that is not going to
be great. You see this with with F one. Remember
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when F one was like the hottest thing going and
people were claiming they're gonna get these crazy media rites.
ESPN went back to F one and said, hey, man,
love you, but we don't think you're worth this much.
And now they're scrambling to go find the television deal.
We saw this with Major League Baseball, any ESPN. This
is a sign to everybody that is not named the
m FELL that these expected paydays for your next media
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rites deals are not going to be what you think
it is. Because we feel that the thing that puts
us over the top, the thing that is truly part
of our survival, is this NFL. And that's why you'll
get eighteen games and Roger Goodell will continue to have
the price the brick go up. So I think that's
the thing I'm looking at. What does it mean for
everybody else that the NFL and the ESPN are getting
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in bed together? And I don't think it's I don't
think it's a good future for everybody else.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
All Right, Joe Ovius, Ovius and Julio podcast Download it.
Listen to what the kid needs hockey gear? He's hanging
out with us here on the hotline. What's that like?
By the way, Like, I'm not I took my kid
to his first my kids, but my son in particular,
took him to fan Fest on Saturday first, like real
big stadium football experience for him. You're a travel sports
dad like hockey specifically? What how I don't know I
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look ahead and I'm like, you know, are travel sport's
going to be the same, Like, what's your experience has
a travel sports dad been, Like, I.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Think it's twofold. The first one is you can't make
your kids like the stuff that you like, right, like that,
that's a huge mistake. That's one thing that I've tried
my best to like, let them be their own saying, right,
let them like their own stuff. You don't want a
miniature version of you. It's not like that's not the goal, right,
So all you can really do as a fun is work,
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make some money, and then be able to put them
in the best position to seek the things that interest them.
Does that make sense? So if you take them to
fans fast, hey, if they like it, great, If they don't,
it's not the end of the world, I think. I
think that's something that a lot of us as dads
have a hard time processing in that Well, wait a minute,
I like to go into football games growing up. I
like doing this growing up. Why don't you man? It
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is what it is. Things are different. So with Jacob
in particular, he's always had an interest in hockey. So
it gets back to that, Hey, what can you do
to help facilitate his interest and can keep that going
and growing. The problem that you run into isn't the kids.
The kids are gonna be okay, it's the parents. And
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the parents continue to drive the cost of participating up
because you, ah, well, I need my kid to go
get this special training. I need to have him have
the super duper hockey stick with a forty flex and
these skates aren't good enough. I need to get him
the eight hundred dollars power skate. And there's a lot
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of other adults who prey on those parents who are
always looking for that edge. And I think the cost
of this stuff has gone up exponentially across all you
sports that you are really hurting the future of sports fandom.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Oh I'm gonna stop. I was aghast a couple of
months ago when I found out that, you know that
we had parents buying ten year olds five hundred dollars
baseball bats like I wanted to throw. But at the
idea that's like, why is that they're going to be
They're gonna be hitting rocks with it in the second practice.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
And there's also the specialization too, right, you know, you
go back to the media thing, it's all NFL all
the time. We came up at a time where we
had a general interest in a bunch of different sports,
and I think a lot of that had to do
with the fact that we played a bunch of different
sports growing up with hockey. If I want to, and
this is true of all sports now, baseball included. If
I want to, and to a certain extent, I have,
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it's hockey three sixty five. Dude. There's camps there, you
have your season. The hockey season starts up here relatively soon.
Then there's spring. Then you can send them off to
these summer league games like like the summer tournaments. It's NonStop.
And then again, these outside organizations will feed into that
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fear as a parent, that will if I don't do this,
my kid's gonna fall behind. And really, in my particular case,
what's my younger son ultimately gonna do. Is he gonna
play in the NHL? Nah man, He's just enjoying being
with his teammates, he's enjoying playing hockey, and eventually he's
probably going to be a beer league guy that's hanging
out with his boys playing at eleven thirty night here
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in Raleig. You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Oh no, listen, I know exactly what's right. I don't
want to go all day, but I think it's a
fascinating conversation because, like, my wife is a part of,
like some of the the mom groups on Facebook, and
all she did was like, I got a three year
old son, who I'm not kidding you, Joe. Like, the
two things he loves most are are playing baseball, which
he still has no real concept of. He just likes
his glove and his ball and playing with dad. And
he likes playing rock and roll. Right, So my wife
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wants to let him play t ball at three years old.
He's excited about it, and we got these moms like
you can't believe that you're trying to force it on
your son at three years It's like, no, we want
him to run and play and have a good time.
And I don't expect him to be a big leaguer.
I just want him to go have fun.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Well, I would ask those parents, I'm like, are you
also the same ones who are sweating what preschool they
go to?
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Exactly? Yeah, no doubt about it.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
The amount of freak out that took place over which
preschool your kid's gonna go to is hilarious to me.
All I want my kid to accomplish coming out of
preschool is have you stopped wetting your pants?
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (12:54):
And are you not eating glue.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
And stopped running with scissors? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Yeah? And check? All right, right, we are good. Let's
go to kindergarten where hopefully he'll drop the nap. You know,
it's like, let's be real about what we're trying to
accomplish in preschool. Man. But again, as always, parents ruin everything,
adults ruin everything, and the kids can't live. So I
did not realize we would morph this into dad talk.
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But I'm guessing there's probably some people in your audience
that are going, hell, yeah, preschool.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Well listen, it happens. I think. I know we have
a lot of dads in the audience, and you'd be
maybe surprised to know that a week and a half
ago we had a full blown segment band on marching
band on the show.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
So we met. Hey, I got a senior. I got
a senior at en Low in marching band. And let
me tell you I've been to enough marching band competitions
with the dad that I am flabbergasted that marching bands
have groupies. So all this is to say, whoa, I'm
gonna close on this. I'm gonna close on this because
I know you're up against the break, right, you gotta
go right, got to go. Yeah. I hear about the
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male loneliness epidemic that's been a headline lately, like, oh,
you know, it's tough out here to be a guy.
You know, women don't want to talk to me. Blah
blah blah blah blah. Let me explain something to you.
That's a skill issue. Because if I can go to
a marching band competition and see the and my son's
included these skinny trumpet playing dudes get girls to stem
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them brownie telegrams from the stands because the broccoli haired
boy looks cute. That's a skill issue. So maybe get
into something like it and open your eyes and maybe
you won't be lonely.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Tell Jacob I said, good luck and have fun. We'll
talk to you soon, buddy.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
I found sex life