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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Mussine Mohammad is back with us for a Football Friday
conversation ahead of the biggest game of the season. Missain Mohammad,
how you been my friend? What's going on?
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Oh? KB doing well? Well, it's been too long, you know. Yeah,
good to be back on the show with you.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
I tell people all the time that we love having
you on, but you're such a busy guy, and you're
a high level titan of industry that I don't like
bothering you that much, but I appreciate it when you
do give us your time.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
You know, I'm addicted to football, that's in my blood.
So you know I never turned these down. Man, It's
always fun to talk a little shop with.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Well.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
I was talking to Smoke during the break and he
pointed out, he said, you know, we got to talk
to Moose about you know, just how great it is
for this Panthers Bucks rivalry in particular to mean something again,
because well, the last time that this series meant that much,
Moose was still playing in a Panther's uniform. How great
is it to see Panthers Bucks coming down the stretch
deciding the NFC South.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
You know, it is amazing and a sitting story, right,
And I think you wouldn't want any other script. And
you know, having two games against the divisional rival coming
down to stretch to decide the season. You know, if
you would have asked me to predict this at the
beginning of the year, I don't know if I could have.
But you know, it's like playing the powerball, you know,
(01:11):
you just great things happen and all of a sudden,
it's gonna be great for somebody at the end of
the day. But this is a this is amazing. I mean,
it's great for Panther fans, it is great for the organization,
it's great for the players, and it's great for the NFL.
It's great for football overall. And these are the kind
of rivalries and matchups that that you live to play in.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Do you recall, and I'm sure I could go back
in pinpoint the season the time, but I'll just let
you take it. Do you recall being in the locker room,
being a part of a you know, a young Panthers
team or even a I guess Chicago team, but Panthers
in particular, like this one, right, young kind of unsteady,
getting your footing good, some Sundays not so good other
Sundays just being a part of a growing culture and
(01:55):
a growing locker room. What's that like? Week the week?
Speaker 2 (01:58):
You know, it is a little nerve wrecking, but it's
also gives you promise, It gives you hope and uh,
you know, for these young guys, uh to actually see
some of their hard works starting to come to fruition,
I know it has to be you know, encouraging for them.
And in Canalis and Morgan and obviously Dave and Nicole
(02:20):
and you know, you know, for the guys in that
locker room, the most nerve wrecking thing is like you
hear all these stories, you see these legends and guys
walking around, you know, and you question yourself. Right, you
know you're working hard and one day it'll pay off,
but you don't know when. And you don't know if
you're you know, if you fit in the NFL, if
(02:41):
you know what you did in college is applicable in
the NFL, And you know, do I belong? You know
amongst the stars and amongst all these you know, great players,
and you know, game after game, you start the game
confidence and you start to get this momentum going and
you beat the l A Rams right, and you start
winning some of these games that against some you know,
(03:03):
big time of opponents like Green Bay, and you start
to see it say, you know what, we're just as
good as they are. You know, we belong here. And
you know, eventually you turn the corner and you walk
in the games expecting to win. You walk in the
games expecting to dominate. And I think the Panthers, you know,
are starting with this season right, are starting to put
some building blocks and some pieces in place to where
(03:25):
they're going to start expecting to win going forward.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
One of those building blocks, of course, is ted Aero McMillan.
And earlier in the year you were on, we were
talking about these young guys and what you saw and
how you projected them as they began their careers. And
you know, Tea Mac in particular has had some really
nice afternoons, but as of late business has slowed down
a little bit. Last three weeks, he's had two catches,
one catch, two catches. There's a debate on the text
(03:49):
line as to why that is. Is it, you know,
the offensive scheme not working well enough to get him open?
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Is it him? Is it?
Speaker 1 (03:56):
You know, all the defensive attention that he's getting. Why
do you think things have slowed down for him the
last couple of weeks, and what do you think about
his progress overall?
Speaker 2 (04:03):
You know, I like t Mac. I've always been a fan,
and I think he's a tough, good young player. He's
got a lot of the right sort of building blocks
to be a really successful receiver at the next level.
And you know, the better you play, what happens is
people adjust, right and they go in just like any
halftime great teams that have halftime adjustments, All these teams
(04:25):
around the league are going to start to adjust to
what t mac has put on film and how well
he's been able to play this early in his career.
And so Team Mac success and his ability to now
adjust to the adjustments, right, it is the ultimate chess match.
Now he's going to have to come out and say, Okay,
well you're doing this to me. I'm going to counter
(04:46):
that with this, And so it builds his tool box, right,
It builds on the things that he's able to do
in the game to counter the counter and then becomes successful.
So you know, there's always these spurts and spans where
you know you've been adjusted to and now you've got
to adjust to the adjustments. And as long as you've
(05:07):
got the mental fortitude and the confidence to know that
you're gonna be able to compete and figure it out,
I think he'll be able to adjust. And you know,
it also helps to have a Jalen Coker and and
and it helps to have an Excel, uh, you know,
as teammates because they could take some of that stress
off of you. And so when he's not able to
produce it because they've got double teams that maybe triple teams,
(05:29):
you know, the ball can go to Cocer or they
can go to Excel and go to other players on
the you know, good running game can compliment that. And
I think you know, same can be said for you know,
what's going on in the backfield. You've got to have
a couple of good running backs. And so you know
the Panthers, you know, you're you're only as good as
the weakest link and and and if they can take
away your strength and you don't have another player to
(05:50):
go to, then it's gonna hurt you. But I think
in the case of that receiver locker room, I mean,
it's one of the most talented locker rooms that the
Panthers have had in terms of the receiving corps. You know,
they're going to be able to compliment each other, and
I think T Max is just going to be fine.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
We were talking a few days ago about the fact
that undeniably this team is better, the organization moving in
the right direction. They've gone from two to fifteen to
five and twelve to now seven and seven with three
games left to go. But we were trying to reconcile
the overall improvement with the fact that they're twenty eighth
in the league in points per game at eighteen point
nine points per game. You got an offensive minded head coach,
(06:26):
points per game down from last year about one point
two points per game, and you know, the offense has
just really been up and down, inconsistent week to week.
You're not quite sure what you're going to get. What
do you attribute that to? Like when I see seven
and seven, better record in the playoff hunt, but twenty
eighth in the league in points per game, how do
I how do I square that?
Speaker 2 (06:46):
You know, I think the identity of the team has
been tested a little bit. You know, when we see
like ric o'dado early in the game in the season,
you know, came out and Ruby was playing well and
they were able to just run the ball consistently and
really impose their will. You know, teams had entries, have
some other things, and so that that's been tested a
(07:06):
little bit, right, And and then you see you know,
other players on the team. You know, every now and
then you see a tremble have a good game, right,
And I think for play callers, you know, knowing that
I've got a go to that's unstoppable is something that
is the luxury that everybody wishes they had a Puka
Nuku or someone like that in their locker room that
(07:27):
you know you can just you know, dial up a
play and you know it can't be stopped. But you know,
what's happening with the Panthers is that they're getting better.
They're getting to a point where you know there are
multiple guys that can uh to answer that call on
on offense, right. And so defense has been has been
a strong suit. But every now and then, our defense
(07:48):
has looked a little bit weak, right, every now and then,
you know, you know, we put confidence in the defense,
like last week, and and we couldn't get off the field.
Though maybe we had a penalty to put them in
a position to kick that game win the field goal.
And so you know, you got to stack these things
in the memory bank. And every week a young team
gets better if they learn from their mistakes and they
get better the next week. But it doesn't mean that
(08:10):
the next the following week, there's gonna be a mistake
that we didn't make it in the previous weeks that
we've got to learn from that. And so you know,
with Canalis, you know, he's a very academic guy. You
got Chiswick there who's you know, really good in teaching,
and you know, now it's all about just building that
confidence right and understanding who's gonna be the you know,
(08:31):
how how do we formulate plays and we formulate strategies
where you know, teams can't stop if they take this away.
We can go over here and this guy, you know what, uh,
this guy he's never been the player of the game.
He's never been a game ball guy. But this week,
you know what, we're gonna call the play and you're
gonna have to be the start of the team this week.
(08:51):
And that's what the Panthers is gonna have to get
through because everyone is going to have to contribute on
a team like this when you don't have you know,
a guy that is you know, freaking nature offense, right,
But you got a bunch of guys who can play,
so you know, it really is about gaining confidence collectively
amongst every single one in that locker room that says,
you know what, I'm going to have to be the
(09:12):
guy this week that wins the game for us and
have the confidence in doing that. And that's what they're learning.
They're learning that we all can contribute and we all
have to, you know, you know, be that guy that's
not the weakest link on the team, and collectively you're
going to have a strong team and you're going to
compete and be in a position to win some big games.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
So with that in mind that, you know, Bryce Young
has the one thing that I and many other people
wanted to see from Bryce this year is consistency. Unfortunately
that has evaded most of them throughout the course of
the year, up and down, win loss. But three of
the last four games he's played well to very well,
you know, Monday Night Football being the exception, but no
play great against the Falcons, great against the Rams. I
(09:51):
think it's a very solid day against the Saints individually.
Even if they lost the game, It's all going to
be decided, I'm sure, and the story will be written
in full over these next three weeks. But what have
you seen from the third year quarterback in his second
season in this system? Has has it been enough? Do
you need to see more? What are your thoughts?
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Well, I'll tell you this, and I know that we
all want a consistent quarterback, but the pain of getting
there is what people don't have the patience for. And
I guarantee you if you look at you know, the
Cleveland organization, they probably have second thoughts on being patient
with Baker Mayfield, right yep. And you look at the
Jets organization, how many good quarterbacks and the Giants you know,
(10:31):
you know, the quarterbacks that have come through those organizations,
and say, man, if we just had a little bit
more patience, we'd have a you know, a really good
quarterback on our hands. And look at Bryce, He's twenty
four years old. I mean, I don't think he's had
you know, full facial here yet. You know, so you
got you know, you got a guy who's young and
got all these you know, really strong components to be
(10:53):
a great quarterback. And you know, if his confidence builds
a game after game, year after year, you know, you
could have a really special player on your hands. And
what does he have to do? It's a mental game.
It's not about physical for him. It is can I
withstand the pressures of standing in front of the media
(11:13):
every week if I didn't play well? And how do
I handle that? Because you know the NFL, I mean,
it is a very intense result oriented job. Like you
know immediately if you did well, if you had a
good game, if you didn't by the score, you know,
at the end of the game, and even if you
(11:34):
didn't play well, if you if you won the game,
then you actually did your job right, even though you
could feel horrible about it. And the flip of that too, right,
you could have a great game, throw for four or
five hundred yards and you lose the game and you're
still going to be judged that way. So for Bryce,
I think this is a mental exercise for him as
much as it is a physical exercise. And being tough
(11:54):
in the NFL. It's not just about being able to
throw a blow or knock somebody out or you know,
be you know, Luke Keikley and you know, one of
these crazy linebackers. It's also a mental toughness game, and
I think right now young guys are learning how to
handle the stresses and the pressures of playing in big
games on a consistent level. And that's what bright to me.
That's where Bryce is going to excel is you know
(12:15):
that mental toughness and fortitude of how to you know,
take the ups and downs, the ebbs and flow and
stay even killed. That's what's all you got to be,
eat and kill all the way through the whole process.
Love it. I love it.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Hey, I've kept you long enough, but I do want
to sneak this in because I know you listen from
time to time when you can, and you know how
much I love college football. I know how much you
love college football.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
This has been.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
The craziest coaching carousel of my lifetime in college football.
It's been absolutely nuts. And your Michigan State Spartans, a
proud program, end up hiring Pat Fitzgerald. I love to
hire for you guys. How do you feel about it?
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Yeah, well I do too. I don't have enough, you know,
to kind of give you a real substance of comment
on it. But you know you're right. I mean, it's
been a coaching carousel here and you know, names that
our legendary names are fading away from the game. You
got new up and coming you know coaches like you
know coach in Indiana. That's just like, who would have
(13:11):
thought that this guy would turn a program around the
way he did in the era of the transfer portal? Right,
and so you know I like to hire. I don't
know enough to say I love it, but you know
he deserves a chance for me. Our spartans haven't been relevant,
you know, and quite some time. So you know, we
need to get back on the map here. Our basketball
program is doing just well, but you know we need
(13:34):
some We need some strong leadership here and we need
some up and coming starts. I mean, the landscape to
me is very fertile for guys who really know how
to you know, lead men right now, because this is
a time and era where leading men is more important
than ever.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Love it, Moose, always appreciate you. Love these conversations. Brother,
We'll talk to you soon. Happy holidays.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
So that was good. Thanks, Thanks having good one KD
Happy Happy holiday.
Mussine Mohammad is back with us for a Football Friday
conversation ahead of the biggest game of the season. Missain Mohammad,
how you been my friend? What's going on?
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Oh? KB doing well? Well, it's been too long, you know. Yeah,
good to be back on the show with you.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
I tell people all the time that we love having
you on, but you're such a busy guy, and you're
a high level titan of industry that I don't like
bothering you that much, but I appreciate it when you
do give us your time.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
You know, I'm addicted to football, that's in my blood.
So you know I never turned these down. Man, It's
always fun to talk a little shop with.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Well.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
I was talking to Smoke during the break and he
pointed out, he said, you know, we got to talk
to Moose about you know, just how great it is
for this Panthers Bucks rivalry in particular to mean something again,
because well, the last time that this series meant that much,
Moose was still playing in a Panther's uniform. How great
is it to see Panthers Bucks coming down the stretch
deciding the NFC South.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
You know, it is amazing and a sitting story, right,
And I think you wouldn't want any other script. And
you know, having two games against the divisional rival coming
down to stretch to decide the season. You know, if
you would have asked me to predict this at the
beginning of the year, I don't know if I could have.
But you know, it's like playing the powerball, you know,
(01:11):
you just great things happen and all of a sudden,
it's gonna be great for somebody at the end of
the day. But this is a this is amazing. I mean,
it's great for Panther fans, it is great for the organization,
it's great for the players, and it's great for the NFL.
It's great for football overall. And these are the kind
of rivalries and matchups that that you live to play in.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Do you recall, and I'm sure I could go back
in pinpoint the season the time, but I'll just let
you take it. Do you recall being in the locker room,
being a part of a you know, a young Panthers
team or even a I guess Chicago team, but Panthers
in particular, like this one, right, young kind of unsteady,
getting your footing good, some Sundays not so good other
Sundays just being a part of a growing culture and
(01:55):
a growing locker room. What's that like? Week the week?
Speaker 2 (01:58):
You know, it is a little nerve wrecking, but it's
also gives you promise, It gives you hope and uh,
you know, for these young guys, uh to actually see
some of their hard works starting to come to fruition,
I know it has to be you know, encouraging for them.
And in Canalis and Morgan and obviously Dave and Nicole
(02:20):
and you know, you know, for the guys in that
locker room, the most nerve wrecking thing is like you
hear all these stories, you see these legends and guys
walking around, you know, and you question yourself. Right, you
know you're working hard and one day it'll pay off,
but you don't know when. And you don't know if
you're you know, if you fit in the NFL, if
(02:41):
you know what you did in college is applicable in
the NFL, And you know, do I belong? You know
amongst the stars and amongst all these you know, great players,
and you know, game after game, you start the game
confidence and you start to get this momentum going and
you beat the l A Rams right, and you start
winning some of these games that against some you know,
(03:03):
big time of opponents like Green Bay, and you start
to see it say, you know what, we're just as
good as they are. You know, we belong here. And
you know, eventually you turn the corner and you walk
in the games expecting to win. You walk in the
games expecting to dominate. And I think the Panthers, you know,
are starting with this season right, are starting to put
some building blocks and some pieces in place to where
(03:25):
they're going to start expecting to win going forward.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
One of those building blocks, of course, is ted Aero McMillan.
And earlier in the year you were on, we were
talking about these young guys and what you saw and
how you projected them as they began their careers. And
you know, Tea Mac in particular has had some really
nice afternoons, but as of late business has slowed down
a little bit. Last three weeks, he's had two catches,
one catch, two catches. There's a debate on the text
(03:49):
line as to why that is. Is it, you know,
the offensive scheme not working well enough to get him open?
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Is it him? Is it?
Speaker 1 (03:56):
You know, all the defensive attention that he's getting. Why
do you think things have slowed down for him the
last couple of weeks, and what do you think about
his progress overall?
Speaker 2 (04:03):
You know, I like t Mac. I've always been a fan,
and I think he's a tough, good young player. He's
got a lot of the right sort of building blocks
to be a really successful receiver at the next level.
And you know, the better you play, what happens is
people adjust, right and they go in just like any
halftime great teams that have halftime adjustments, All these teams
(04:25):
around the league are going to start to adjust to
what t mac has put on film and how well
he's been able to play this early in his career.
And so Team Mac success and his ability to now
adjust to the adjustments, right, it is the ultimate chess match.
Now he's going to have to come out and say, Okay,
well you're doing this to me. I'm going to counter
(04:46):
that with this, And so it builds his tool box, right,
It builds on the things that he's able to do
in the game to counter the counter and then becomes successful.
So you know, there's always these spurts and spans where
you know you've been adjusted to and now you've got
to adjust to the adjustments. And as long as you've
(05:07):
got the mental fortitude and the confidence to know that
you're gonna be able to compete and figure it out,
I think he'll be able to adjust. And you know,
it also helps to have a Jalen Coker and and
and it helps to have an Excel, uh, you know,
as teammates because they could take some of that stress
off of you. And so when he's not able to
produce it because they've got double teams that maybe triple teams,
(05:29):
you know, the ball can go to Cocer or they
can go to Excel and go to other players on
the you know, good running game can compliment that. And
I think you know, same can be said for you know,
what's going on in the backfield. You've got to have
a couple of good running backs. And so you know
the Panthers, you know, you're you're only as good as
the weakest link and and and if they can take
away your strength and you don't have another player to
(05:50):
go to, then it's gonna hurt you. But I think
in the case of that receiver locker room, I mean,
it's one of the most talented locker rooms that the
Panthers have had in terms of the receiving corps. You know,
they're going to be able to compliment each other, and
I think T Max is just going to be fine.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
We were talking a few days ago about the fact
that undeniably this team is better, the organization moving in
the right direction. They've gone from two to fifteen to
five and twelve to now seven and seven with three
games left to go. But we were trying to reconcile
the overall improvement with the fact that they're twenty eighth
in the league in points per game at eighteen point
nine points per game. You got an offensive minded head coach,
(06:26):
points per game down from last year about one point
two points per game, and you know, the offense has
just really been up and down, inconsistent week to week.
You're not quite sure what you're going to get. What
do you attribute that to? Like when I see seven
and seven, better record in the playoff hunt, but twenty
eighth in the league in points per game, how do
I how do I square that?
Speaker 2 (06:46):
You know, I think the identity of the team has
been tested a little bit. You know, when we see
like ric o'dado early in the game in the season,
you know, came out and Ruby was playing well and
they were able to just run the ball consistently and
really impose their will. You know, teams had entries, have
some other things, and so that that's been tested a
(07:06):
little bit, right, And and then you see you know,
other players on the team. You know, every now and
then you see a tremble have a good game, right,
And I think for play callers, you know, knowing that
I've got a go to that's unstoppable is something that
is the luxury that everybody wishes they had a Puka
Nuku or someone like that in their locker room that
(07:27):
you know you can just you know, dial up a
play and you know it can't be stopped. But you know,
what's happening with the Panthers is that they're getting better.
They're getting to a point where you know there are
multiple guys that can uh to answer that call on
on offense, right. And so defense has been has been
a strong suit. But every now and then, our defense
(07:48):
has looked a little bit weak, right, every now and then,
you know, you know, we put confidence in the defense,
like last week, and and we couldn't get off the field.
Though maybe we had a penalty to put them in
a position to kick that game win the field goal.
And so you know, you got to stack these things
in the memory bank. And every week a young team
gets better if they learn from their mistakes and they
get better the next week. But it doesn't mean that
(08:10):
the next the following week, there's gonna be a mistake
that we didn't make it in the previous weeks that
we've got to learn from that. And so you know,
with Canalis, you know, he's a very academic guy. You
got Chiswick there who's you know, really good in teaching,
and you know, now it's all about just building that
confidence right and understanding who's gonna be the you know,
(08:31):
how how do we formulate plays and we formulate strategies
where you know, teams can't stop if they take this away.
We can go over here and this guy, you know what, uh,
this guy he's never been the player of the game.
He's never been a game ball guy. But this week,
you know what, we're gonna call the play and you're
gonna have to be the start of the team this week.
(08:51):
And that's what the Panthers is gonna have to get
through because everyone is going to have to contribute on
a team like this when you don't have you know,
a guy that is you know, freaking nature offense, right,
But you got a bunch of guys who can play,
so you know, it really is about gaining confidence collectively
amongst every single one in that locker room that says,
you know what, I'm going to have to be the
(09:12):
guy this week that wins the game for us and
have the confidence in doing that. And that's what they're learning.
They're learning that we all can contribute and we all
have to, you know, you know, be that guy that's
not the weakest link on the team, and collectively you're
going to have a strong team and you're going to
compete and be in a position to win some big games.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
So with that in mind that, you know, Bryce Young
has the one thing that I and many other people
wanted to see from Bryce this year is consistency. Unfortunately
that has evaded most of them throughout the course of
the year, up and down, win loss. But three of
the last four games he's played well to very well,
you know, Monday Night Football being the exception, but no
play great against the Falcons, great against the Rams. I
(09:51):
think it's a very solid day against the Saints individually.
Even if they lost the game, It's all going to
be decided, I'm sure, and the story will be written
in full over these next three weeks. But what have
you seen from the third year quarterback in his second
season in this system? Has has it been enough? Do
you need to see more? What are your thoughts?
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Well, I'll tell you this, and I know that we
all want a consistent quarterback, but the pain of getting
there is what people don't have the patience for. And
I guarantee you if you look at you know, the
Cleveland organization, they probably have second thoughts on being patient
with Baker Mayfield, right yep. And you look at the
Jets organization, how many good quarterbacks and the Giants you know,
(10:31):
you know, the quarterbacks that have come through those organizations,
and say, man, if we just had a little bit
more patience, we'd have a you know, a really good
quarterback on our hands. And look at Bryce, He's twenty
four years old. I mean, I don't think he's had
you know, full facial here yet. You know, so you
got you know, you got a guy who's young and
got all these you know, really strong components to be
(10:53):
a great quarterback. And you know, if his confidence builds
a game after game, year after year, you know, you
could have a really special player on your hands. And
what does he have to do? It's a mental game.
It's not about physical for him. It is can I
withstand the pressures of standing in front of the media
(11:13):
every week if I didn't play well? And how do
I handle that? Because you know the NFL, I mean,
it is a very intense result oriented job. Like you
know immediately if you did well, if you had a
good game, if you didn't by the score, you know,
at the end of the game, and even if you
(11:34):
didn't play well, if you if you won the game,
then you actually did your job right, even though you
could feel horrible about it. And the flip of that too, right,
you could have a great game, throw for four or
five hundred yards and you lose the game and you're
still going to be judged that way. So for Bryce,
I think this is a mental exercise for him as
much as it is a physical exercise. And being tough
(11:54):
in the NFL. It's not just about being able to
throw a blow or knock somebody out or you know,
be you know, Luke Keikley and you know, one of
these crazy linebackers. It's also a mental toughness game, and
I think right now young guys are learning how to
handle the stresses and the pressures of playing in big
games on a consistent level. And that's what bright to me.
That's where Bryce is going to excel is you know
(12:15):
that mental toughness and fortitude of how to you know,
take the ups and downs, the ebbs and flow and
stay even killed. That's what's all you got to be,
eat and kill all the way through the whole process.
Love it. I love it.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Hey, I've kept you long enough, but I do want
to sneak this in because I know you listen from
time to time when you can, and you know how
much I love college football. I know how much you
love college football.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
This has been.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
The craziest coaching carousel of my lifetime in college football.
It's been absolutely nuts. And your Michigan State Spartans, a
proud program, end up hiring Pat Fitzgerald. I love to
hire for you guys. How do you feel about it?
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Yeah, well I do too. I don't have enough, you know,
to kind of give you a real substance of comment
on it. But you know you're right. I mean, it's
been a coaching carousel here and you know, names that
our legendary names are fading away from the game. You
got new up and coming you know coaches like you
know coach in Indiana. That's just like, who would have
(13:11):
thought that this guy would turn a program around the
way he did in the era of the transfer portal? Right,
and so you know I like to hire. I don't
know enough to say I love it, but you know
he deserves a chance for me. Our spartans haven't been relevant,
you know, and quite some time. So you know, we
need to get back on the map here. Our basketball
program is doing just well, but you know we need
(13:34):
some We need some strong leadership here and we need
some up and coming starts. I mean, the landscape to
me is very fertile for guys who really know how
to you know, lead men right now, because this is
a time and era where leading men is more important
than ever.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Love it, Moose, always appreciate you. Love these conversations. Brother,
We'll talk to you soon. Happy holidays.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
So that was good. Thanks, Thanks having good one KD
Happy Happy holiday.
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