The Kyle Bailey Show: Nate Wimberly

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Nate Wemberley WBTV feels like I haven't seen this man
in ages, and so we just had a good laugh
at Dave Randa from Baylor and his Wolf of Wall
Street midget tossing analogy from the coaching conference a couple
of days ago. If you missed that, I don't know
if we maybe we'll play it again, I don't know,
but I don't think Nate can handle another playing of
that that. Don't do it till you again?

Speaker 2 (00:21):
For every SID that would have to listen to that
and Crane, Oh my gosh, no, he did not say that.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
Can you imagine the look on the sid s face,
because you know he's just off to the.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Right, just off screen, like oh dear, Yeah, he's preparing
his h I'm quitting speech or his.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
Ad already texting him what the hell is he talking about.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
I'm not gonna handle this, d I ain' ain't got
no fue my two week notice, y'all go find somebody
else to handle this.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
Oh man. Can you imagine also going from Matt Ruler
to Dave Randa at Baylor, like what that must be
like for the people inside the building over there, like
their experience in the last eight years out in Waco, Texas.
From Matt Rule to Dave Randa has to have been
absolutely insane. Anyhow, it's good to see you. You and
I haven't caught up in a couple of weeks. We've
been trading vacations and things like that. I want to
go actually back about a week first, not quite a week.

(01:06):
Hornets won the Summer League. Have you have you bought
your T shirt yet? No? Why?

Speaker 2 (01:10):
And I'm not, well, they ought to give you one
for free. It's the Summer League. No, we ought to
get one for free, all of us. But this is
the thing. I love the fact that they did this.
It's a franchise that's never won a division title, never
won a conference championship. Before we can even start talking
about winning an NBA championship, win the division, and this
kind of sets the standard of winning. You know, don't

(01:31):
put up no banner, don't do all that. Take that
but dazzled basketball and put it in the locker room
and serve as a reminder.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
This is the standard.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Guys, if you put your mind to it and you
put the work in the proper things. Man, we can
get that, dude. It's not too far away. So you know,
just use this as a reminder. The culture is starting
to take shape. It's working, at least for the young guys.
It's working, and I do believe that this team is
eventually gonna get there. It's gonna take a while, but

(02:00):
for me, start with winning a division title. That's not
that it won't get you that that home playoff round
matchup in the first round anymore. But win a division title,
just ASCEMP. But to me, that's where it starts. You
got to start winning something, win something, not they've won something.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
So I don't know, because you're the whole we should
have fun with it. When I've had the people on
the text line and I'm sure they were there before
I got back on Monday, they were like, I can't
believe that. Guys thinks it's a big deal and it's
a summer league. When you've won nothing, it's okay to
be excited about, just like a glimmer of hope that
you're finally doing things the right way. And let's be honest.

(02:39):
You know, it was pointed out, hey, Sacramentos won this
four times. Okay, got it. But you know part of
it too is the summer League is about seeing the
guys that you just drafted, and they feel like and
this was written about I think by Brett Stiegel or
somebody else a couple of days ago, but I've had
these conversations. They think they had the best draft in
the NBA. Time will tell if that's true or not.
But the dudes that they drafted, they put on the

(02:59):
floor or just went out there and won a Summer
League title. So there is something to Okay, we think
we just took some dudes that can really play ball
and are about the right stuff.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
Absolutely, they're winning. They're proving that they're winners right now.
And I mean for them to put this together in
a week and go down there and go six and
oh and win the thing, like, dude, this is a
good sign. It's a positive sign. At least you got
some guys in there that are taking the coaching and
the teaching and everything that they're trying to establish. They're
applying it and look it's working. So I mean, it's

(03:27):
a positive sign. You know, it is summer league, but
it's a sign that's your young guys that you just
brought in not too long ago. You know, it ain't
been a month, it's been a month now, I think,
and they're coming in and already affecting some things around
the building. Like, come on, man, you got to be
excited about that. So I'm excited. I'm stoked and like,
but I'm not gonna buy a T shirt.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
Yeah, I'll buy the damn T shirt all right now.
I do feel that as the Hornets pregame host, who
did do eighty two of those things last year, I
should be giving a free T shirt. I'm gonna throw
that out there now. I feel like I should get
a free T shirt. Xcel please for the folks over
there listening. That said, I also want to shout out
the guys at the Crown Club because did you see today?

(04:09):
I love this shout out to the guys at the
Crown Club, Scotty and Evan. I know those guys since
day one. They embraced me when I got on the air,
so I appreciate them a lot. They are throwing a
party tonight at the Local, the Local to celebrate the
Hornet Summer League title. They've bought a keg for everybody
and they're doing a replay of the Summer League championship
game from Sunday night. And I'm here for it. So
if you want to go party with Hornets fans at

(04:29):
the local and celebrate the Summer League title, I think
you can do that tonight.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
I think they said that Hugo was going to be
there this once. The Quad's gonna be there to Hornets
are actually giving them stuff, are sending people over there
to help them celebrate that. So yes, look, just like
you said to your point, you hadn't won anything. You
finally won something. Be happy, folks, because the alternative. We've
seen the alternative, we're living the alternative. It's time to
get on the other side of that and start winning.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
What's also become a thing online Now. I'm not an
online as much as I used to be. I'm certainly
one of these terminally online guys who fights with strangers
all day long. But I have found out that Hornets
fans and Wizards fans have been beefing heavy since the
draft and Summer League about who had the better draft,
who's got the better young core moving forward? Like Hornets
fans and Wizards fans battling it out online about this.

(05:17):
It's like two broke dudes fighting over who's got the
better couch to sleep on like that you know, it's
like two drunk uncles trying to fix a flat tire
with a fork. I mean it's not you know, it's
most of the country doesn't care about this, But the
fact that Hornets and Wizards fans are beefing heavy online,
I kind of do love it.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Yeah, the rest of the league is looking over there,
and then they're just gonna walk right by like they're
gonna keep moving on with their days. And That's what
I'm doing with that too. I'm gonna look at it like, oh,
look at them two food and just gonna keep walking,
all right.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
Nate Wimberley w BCV in studio with us here. Panthers
training camp opening this week. You know, what is it?
What season is this for you? This is my ninth,
This is twenty eight. That's what I nailed it, twenty eight,
all right, so your twenty eighth consecutive season. We were
just talking let me start here. We were just talking
about the biggest teases and what I what we're talking

(06:02):
about in context. Terrace Marshall Junior is apparently really impressing
people at Philadelphia Eagles training camp this week. AJ Brown
is vouching for him. TMJ firing up Eagles fans up there,
the defending world champs. Boy do they not know what
they're about to find out? In terms of the biggest teases,
like draft picks, free agents, guys who had the talent,
came in with a big rep, big expectations and turned

(06:24):
out to flop. Who stands out in twenty eight twenty
seven seasons? Who stands out? I think my top one
is Vernon Butler.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
For me, it why you caught me on card with that?
That's yeah, Vernon Butler is definitely one.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
He said. Biyakabatuca smoked it, he said, Biyakabatuca. It was injuries.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
Though he had a lot of good moments though, I mean,
I don't think he was well, yeah, you're right, because
those moments were teases and then yeah, yeah, all came
off to that.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
I think that's what it is. You get the flight.
It's not like a guy like Jimmy Clawson who just
showed up and flopped right. The guys just showed it
had never followed through. I'll tell you what.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
Between the two of these right here, I will go
Beau because the moments were great moments, and then it's
just like man but to make up for it, I mean,
they've had some great running backs. I mean, like it
just hadn't stopped because of that. But you know, Steven
Davis after that, and Sean Foster. You know, the list
goes on and on. The Angelo whims, shout the Steward
so it. But yeah, Biaka Patuca was a big disappointment

(07:25):
because the injuries just derailed his career here and took
him off the field.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
A lot of Kelvin Benjamin on the text line there
you go. Yeah, a lot of Jeff o'tah on the
text line. Let's see what else do we have here?
A lot of Vernon Butler coming in and oh, Keishawn
made his way on several times, Greg Hardy, Jeremy Chin.
That's not I think that's a I don't know. I
know that there are a lot of people who blame
that more on the respective coaching staffs, especially given what
he just did in Washington this past year. So I

(07:52):
guess that's where the blame goes. That. There is no
teasing that.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
I mean, like his rookie year, he played and he
played with he finished second defensive Rookie of the Year
voting behind Sweat, So no that was that the coaching
staff blunder. They fumbled that ball. It wasn't him, The
coaching staff fumbled that ball.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
Yeah, smoke, what you got to Actually did have a
really good one that would classify as the tease.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
Ricky Manning Junior. Mmm, I wasn't here for him.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
I know context his highs were high, but his lows
are pretty low too.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Remember he had the three in the NFC Championship game.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
Yeah, key interception the week prior to that in the
divisional round, but he had a lot of blown coverages.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
All right. So we're through the first week of practice.
Nobody's put pads on yet. We haven't seen anything consequential yet.
But they did lose Josie Jewel back on Tuesday. And
I talked to Joe person a little while ago, and
he seems to think that, you know, zero Evro is
going to give a real earnest chance to Christian rose
Boom to step in and take that job.

Speaker 4 (08:49):
And they ain't got a choice. They can sign somebody.
It's not a lot out there on the street right now, No,
there's not. There's not a lot on the street. Get
cut over the next couple of weeks exactly that's what
they're gonna make it. But then again, you know you
want that guy in here at the starter turning camp,
and you know if you're getting them late and right
before the season, it's gonna take him a few weeks

(09:12):
to even get going with this defense.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
And uh, that's a that's a.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
It just makes the fact that you didn't like, you know,
Peyton Willis, you didn't draft him a few years ago.
Now this is starting to come back to bite you.
You let Shack Thompson go. You know, he was having
problems just staying on the field and not being hurt.
But that's that's a sam position. And the one thing
that they have problems with stopping to run. And uh,
how is this gonna affect them being able to stop

(09:38):
the run? I mean, they signed some great guys and
I'm really excited about the freedging class that they signed
to be able to help them stop the run, But
that the inside linebacker that is a weak spot on
this team, and teams are going to try and get
to that spot of the other field and take advantage
of the fact that they don't have a lot of
depth there. They are really one injury away at that position,

(09:59):
and really being in trouble.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
It sounds and I think the flip side of that
is and Dan Morgan kind of alluded to that earlier
this week, that sometimes the ANSWER's got to be on
the roster, and maybe that's Rose Boom. I know, Joe
pointed out Jacoby Winman started, you know a handful of
games last year. I'm actually a Claude and cherylst fan.
When he was out there and healthy, I mean he
was flying around. That's how I make some plays. So
they may have enough. But I you said, Shaq Thompson

(10:22):
real quick. The rumors are there's a good chance he's
cutting Buffalo. He also just put his South Charlotte mansion
on the market for sale within the last what twelve
hours or so?

Speaker 2 (10:32):
Ten million dollars.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
I got it.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
I'm a buye, you got it. I'm about ten point seven. Yeah,
I'm just inside the back man. I missed it. I
don't have the point seven.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
Oh no, it was ten or under. Yeah, that's that's
John Carter purchased that. That's a John cart that's a
news anchor purchased it. But I mean their folks that say, well,
why not bring shack back? If Buffalo lets him go,
I mean, I guess you could, but you know I
didn't think that would be on the table.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
Look, this was position is then I'm telling you that
they need some help. They're gonna need some help now,
you know. To their point the whole time is that
we're gonna we're gonna play a bunch of young guys
and we're gonna let it into See your brain wants
to say this team needs to compete for super Bowl.
We need to win the super Bowl. We need to
win super Bowl. They'reing they put process of building this

(11:18):
thing the right way and building a sustainable winner. The
only way you're gonna do that is find out that
these young guys can play. Maybe this is the chance
where you just put these guys out there and see
if they can do the job. And that's just a
part of the building process, is that you know, we've
we've signed enough to be able to handle this problem,
and these young guys can come out there and help us,

(11:38):
you know, solve this problem, and we're gonna be We're
just gonna keep going on with this. Maybe that is
the plan, but it's a samples and right now it
doesn't look good on paper. Maybe when you get out
there in Jacksonville and you see these young guys play,
You'll be like, well, this might not be so bad,
so you gotta give them a chance. So I do
believe they're gonna get their chance. I don't think they're
gonna sign anybody now because there's nobody really out there.

(12:01):
So they're gonna get a chance to show what they
can do in this preseason with these you know, practices,
joint practices in this game. Are these games, and let's
see what they got. So, I mean that's what training
caps all about. You got to find out whether these
young guys can do it or not, and then you
make your adjustment. So right now it is what it is. Well,
just see what they can do.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
Yeah, Nate Wimberley WBTV in studio with us. I was
the last three days. I was at ACC kickoff. I
saw your crew up there a lot. I didn't run
into you. I was not going to be there.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
Yesterday with with Bill Chapel Bill in house, that was
a madhouse.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
Oh, I was in it. I was right in the
middle of the room. Yesterday I was at the Panthers.
I said this yesterday, but it was I've been to
a lot of press conferences, so of you, you've probably
been more than I have. But I've been to a
lot of those things. That one, They all pretty much
are a lot of Like that one. I'll always remember
that was different. That one was different than it was different.
There were hundreds of people in the room, and like
like a courtroom, like a big court case. As soon
as Bill and the players start walking in, just deathly silent,

(12:54):
like the whole place goes. Anybody's watching Bill in his
Chapel Hill blue tie, Tar Hill blue tie walking up
on the stage. And it was funny too because he
was jovial. He also didn't really want to talk about anything,
which is not shocking has been so as soon as
somebody asked him a question about a full back, I mean,
the dude just held court on the fullback position for
as long as he could to waste time. But yeah,

(13:16):
it was unlike much I've ever seen. And like once
again college football media days, there's the backdrop of another
realignment report with Carolina and the SEC and things like that.
But to me, the most important or rather interesting thing
this week is just trying to figure out who behind
Clemson is really good. Right, we think Clemson's gonna be
really good, and I think there's about five teams behind
them that could be the second best team of this conference.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
I just don't know who it's gonna be. Yeah, it's
it's whoever is going to be here in Charlotte. Is
wide openings, about as wide open as has ever been.
Is at Miami with Carson Beckett quarterback. You know, there's
a handful of teams that to your point, yeah, why
not do nine to four?

Speaker 1 (13:57):
Last year?

Speaker 2 (13:57):
He got a lot of talent back they you know,
upgrade at the quarterback position. Uh. You know, there's a
lot of talk about State and their offense should be
dynamic with CJ. Bailey back and all the weapons they got,
including Hollywood Smothers, who's from Chambers here in Charlotte. So, uh,
there is a lot. I mean, Georgia Tech. I would
not sleep on Georgia Tech.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
I think they very well are the second best team.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
Absolutely, they're gonna be They're gonna have a very good season.
They just kind of kind of chokes it, you know,
and when it gets when they get those tight games
and they kind of find a way to just fumble
it away.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
It might be SMU Kevin Jenings is back, right. I mean,
they got their quarterback back, they got a dynamic offense,
they got athletes.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
And why not North Carolina?

Speaker 1 (14:40):
Why not? You know, your boy Wes Bryant had them
going eleven in one earlier today. Oh my god, I.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
Know he been in the heat too long.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
It's okay, So I just I walked in here. It's
like eleven and one, big guy, eleven and one. That's
a lot of confidence in a roster that has seventy
new players from last year to this year. I mean, look,
West knows is college football, so that's our guy. Me
and you both love West. But I heard I was
driving it and hurt him predict eleven and one and
nearly swerved off him. About you almost right ran off

(15:07):
the road there. Yeah, but no, I mean, seriously, I
think Shmu and Kevin Jennings have to be in the conversation.
That kid's got to be motivated. And I'm not picking
on him, but like he lost them that playoff game,
but he have three turnovers in the first ten minutes
of the game that two of them led to touchdowns.
I mean, he's got to be motivated.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
He's going to be motivated. But but this is the thing.
It's like Bill Belichick stuck all the air out of
the room and nobody really was over there by Clemson.
You don't think this is going to motivate them, Like,
come on, nah.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
It's so funny to watch. And I told Dabo this
yesterday when I talked to him. It's just so funny
to like, he is one of the faces two or
three faces of college football, iconic Hall of Fame coach,
and he's just what I'm not trying to be weird,
but like we're at this, like we're in the bathroom
at the stall together. I just look over and Dabo's
right next to me, and I'm just like, he's just
he's a man of the people. He's just out mingling and
talking to everybody, and I'm like, he doesn't have to
do this stuff. He loves it though, he's just he

(15:55):
eats it up.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
But this is the thing. Is like I know he's
probably enjoyed. It's like, dude, y'all ontly have to be
about it. Go go go be about Bill.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
That's cool.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
I can just just chill and enjoy the ambiance of
the ACC kickoffs and you know we're gonna go ahead
We're gonna hand a lot of business. And I'm you know,
I think the LSU's the first game right at the home. Yeah,
at the real death fact they can make a statement.
Just just go ahead and molly wop on LSU and
get this thing rolling. So you know, I'm Clempson is
gonna have a great year. They're a playoff team in

(16:25):
my opinion, They're gonna win acc and uh, they're gonna
get They're gonna be a good team this year. The
acy C is gonna be very interested this year because
of the fact that the number two spot a berth
in the championship game is gonna be so much on
the line this year.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
Yeah, last thing, how close are we to high school
foot like real high school football talk? The high school football.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
The first day of practice is next Tuesday, right North Carolina,
next Wednesdays for South Carolina, first games of August twenty second,
So if we're right upon it, I mean, like it's here.
You know, I'm starting to get ready. We're gonna have
a special edition of The Point After on August thirteenth,
the Preview High Football because in North Carolina it's the
first time that there's eight classifications. This thing is.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
Gonna be wide open.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
Talking about WATO, there's gonna be a lot of wide
open classifications now because it's so spread out. A lot
of teams are gonna have a bite at the apple
to win a state championship. And it's an exciting time.
You know, I was, I wasn't too sure about the
whole eight AA thing. If you look at the conferences
and you look at how everything is kind of spread out,
now you can get excited about some teams that who

(17:26):
might not have had, you know, any chances that winning
state championships or you know, they got a shot now
because they're in leagues and classifications that they can actually
win some stuff. And that's got to be exciting.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
Is anybody in America still doing to to days at
the high school level? Anybody doing two days anymore?

Speaker 2 (17:44):
We were talking about that yesterday when I was playing
college about high school football. Man, you just get up
in the morning in that heat, and you know, you
go through that first practice, and then you take that break,
and then at three o'clock in the dead heat of day,
yes when they really didn't care about the heat back then,
you went back out there and you strapped on.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
Auto get no damn water till you got it right exactly,
there was no water.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
People will be what you're doing uptowns until you pup. Yeah,
they didn't care back then, and uh we did two
a days.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
I don't think they do to it.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
They don't do them now because anybody in America do
it to it, So I don't think.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
So somebody's got to know of one. There's gotta be
some rogue coach out there still running two a Day's
probably the dude Hoover, Alabama that was on MTV.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
It's that they won't be coaching alone because somebody find
out and I state they'll get to them.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
So Na, it's crazy how much that changed.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
I'm not going to be doing to it.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
You were like waking up as a kid, high school kid.
Nobody we didn't want to be awake at six thirty anyway,
but then like you're putting the pads on at seven thirty,
you get that practice over with, you eat lunch. All
you want to do is go to the pool and
you gotta go right back, you know it. Nope, wake up, gentlemen.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
They don't have any idea with that. They have no clue,
no clue. Wake up, gentlemen. And then the first thing
we're gonna do is it to make sure you awake
and aware and ready to go practice, because we're not
gonna be out here wasting that time, so let me
wake you up by doing some hitting drills.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
Right off the gate. Anybody's good to see you again. Absolutely,
and we got practice starting Tuesday. Then it's jamborees, jubilees,
and the next thing we know, it's going to be
the start of the regular season, so we'll do it
again next Friday.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
Absolutely, absolutely