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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, let's go to Nick Carbony, NBC Charlotte Sports Director,
sports anchor. He's back with us, fresh out of a
Panther's locker room session. He's back a little later than
usual here on a Tuesday. Happy to year, brother, what's
going on?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
I'm good man. Tuesday is Wednesday. Wednesday is Thursday, Thursday,
it's Friday. It's a short week. But man, what a
what a happy holiday for Panthers fans or something to
play for in week eight? Team?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Yeah, it's awesome, man, it really is. Let's just real quick.
Let me get your thoughts out of the way. On Sunday,
you and I were in the press box together and
they listen, they lost to a good team. They lost
to the best team in the NFC at a Super
Bowl contender. But I think it's how they lost in
the fact that you know, Miami did their share. You
know that that really left fans pretty disappointed on Sunday's result.
What'd you think?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Yeah, losing to Seattle on face value is you know,
not that surprising. It's nothing to hang your head about
or think you can't go and do what the Panthers
have done since October nineteenth and go out there and
win the very next week. But yes, it sings doubly so.
I think for the two reasons you mentioned, the Bucks
(01:07):
losing to Miami and that golden opportunity being right there
for you around four o'clock on Sunday afternoon when both
games wrapped up, and then you know the turnovers and
the lack of passing game and offense overall. But you know,
part of that, you hand a seattle. Part of that.
You scratch your head like we do every other week
and say, you know, what's going on with the play calling,
(01:28):
the quarterback, the receivers in the old line. I thought
it was kind of a confluence of all of those.
But you know they're right back in it. We see,
this is how it goes over in this locker room
every other week. They're focused on this week and confident
that they can do it, you know, just like they've
done the last two months.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
What the overall offensive performance fifty four yards passing, not
nearly enough rushing production. I mean, the defense came to
play Nick, but the offense just laid an egg for
a multitude of reasons. Where do you start in assessing
the blame on the offense side? Because somebody's got to
take it.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Yeah, I think it's that's tough. I think it is
the lack of separation from the receivers in that particular
game against man coverage, which they didn't expect. So that
goes into coaching. I mean, Bryce Young having fifty four
passing yards in a professional football game is a jarring
stat And I don't want this to sound the wrong way,
(02:23):
but like I didn't think much of it until I
realized he had like sixteen with eight minutes to go
in the third quarter, because I wasn't looking at the
offense and going, this is all on nine. I just
don't think it was that. I mean, certainly's got a
part of it, but you know we've seen again every
other week where you know, it just doesn't sync up coaching,
play calling, quarterbacking, blocking, receiving. But you know, to me,
(02:47):
it was tmax illness, the man coverage and not being
able to adjust lea guests, many many miscues. You know,
Cocher being a nice player but still thinking they probably
need to add a big weapon or you know, a
one A to t Mac this offseason. Ja C Sanders
going down like all of it, another offensive line combination
(03:09):
and a good Seattle defense.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
What the As far as the health situation goes, we'll
get the official injury report, But I got people who
have wanted me to ask you what you learned today
about the injury situation. Robert Hunt has come up a
number of times as well. What do you know about Hunt?
I'm curious what we found out about David Moore as well,
and just a general availability of some of these guys
for week eighteen.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Yeah, Hunt and more full participants today. But again it's
a walkthrough, so you take that with a bit of
a grain of salt. But we did talk to Robert
Hunt and he told us he's still in a heck
of a lot better than he even did the time
he talked to us last week when they opened up
that twenty one day window, and of course he missed
last week's game, but according to him, according to Dave Canas,
is still a little bit too early in the week
(03:50):
to tell if he's going to be able to go
out there and do what he physically needs to do
in an NFL game against the Bucks defensive line. But
I will say, like if he has a good day tomorrow,
that would give you a lean on, like he may
be able to play Saturday. They've also got to keep
in mind they might they might need him the week after,
but not if they don't take care of business, and
not if Atlanta doesn't take care of business this weekend,
(04:14):
of course, but just it's I think we'll get a
lean one way or the other tomorrow on Hunt.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
As far as I'm concerned, if David Moore can go Saturday, Nick,
I know he hasn't played in a while. I'm giving
him excel snaps personally, Yeah, that's the way open.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Somebody they can't get open and know where they are
on the field and have that professionalism and reliability and awareness.
And he brought that to this team for the bulk
of last season and brought up Bryce Young a reliable
target that he could go to in key situations. So yes, absolutely,
you're You're one hundred percent right. You know, Dave can
allis when kind of you know, he always kind of
(04:49):
is asked about le get you know, whether he's gonna
bench m or not, and he kind of tows the
line there a little bit. But speaking of towing the line,
like he did reveal to us all that leaguet didn't
even see the officials signal that he was offside, So
I think there is definitely some frustration there under the surface,
and they can't afford to mess around anymore. They can't
afford to say, hey, it's okay. You know you're young,
(05:11):
and you know you didn't know better, because he does
by now, and they need better than that out there
on the field. So I think you're absolutely right. Didn't
have a whole lot of conversations about More or with
More today, but can tell you he was listed as
a full participant, so much like Robert Hunt kind of
on the same timeline. Tomorrow is gonna be really interesting
with those guys.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Now, I think you alluded to this, but even if
you didn't, it's fine. The fact that Seattle ended up
running a ton of man coverage on Sunday despite the
fact they came in leading the league in zone usage.
Dave Canalis admitted it. Bryce Young said it like it
really caught them off guard, and they're catching a lot
of criticism on my text line for their inability to adjust.
(05:49):
If I couple that with maybe, you know, being bottom
four in the NFL and points per game this year, like,
does that concern you about the future of the offense
at all. How do you ingest that?
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah, I mean, I think they've had more good days
on offense than at quarterback and play calling this year
than they did last year. But much like with the
team overall, it is still very much a work in progress.
Dave can Allis is in his third year as full
time play caller in the NFL, just a second balancing
head coaching and play calling. You haven't asked this, but
(06:20):
I don't think he's going to give that up, at
the least at the beginning of year three, not without
some outside help coming in different than what they have
here now. So yeah, I mean, and they're still adding.
They still need more weapons around Bryce Young. I mean,
t Mac was a fantastic pick. He's going to be
here for a long time and make a lot of
Pro Bowl The running backs are solid, but outside of that,
(06:41):
they don't have a lot of reliability for Bryce Young
to get the ball to. And I think that's a
big part of all this. You know, you look, you
look at this season without Adam feeling at David Moore,
as you said, but it's just all first and second
year guys out there.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
It's frustrating. Nick Carboni NBC Charlotte hanging out with us here.
Any thoughts on Jason Horn. Obviously third and twenty one
was a disaster on Sunday. He's overall had a good year.
I mean, he's a Pro bowler for the second straight year.
But between Sunday and a couple of miscues against the Saints,
I mean, it's been I think net Net it's been good, Nick,
but there have been some catastrophically bad snaps and Sunday's overall, yeah,
(07:18):
I mean not.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Having you know, any minute right after the game, didn't
he didn't need to have his hand up that high
on that play. You just need to shove him out
of bound. So kind of the I don't want to
say lack of maturity, because I think he's a leader
on the team. He's a mature individual off the field.
I'm not saying that, but just you've got to know
that situation. Got to come up with the pick in
the first half, got to stand your feet against the
Saints in that first game, you know. So overall, I
(07:43):
think he's got a very solid year and he's probably
going to make another Pro Bowl or two or three
the rest of his career. But like the rest of
this team. They kind of need to be able to
execute when everything's on the line, when that playoff spot
is there for the taking, when the ball is there
for the taking, when the downs are there for the
taking the team overall, that's the next step.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
I think for everybody, how big is Sunday for Bryce
Young just in terms of how they view him going
into the offseason. I hate reducing things to one game, Nick,
but I mean, here we are going toward the end
of his third year. It's been wildly inconsistent. He has
been better than like overall the last five games, you know,
in terms of being consistent. But after Sunday, Like, how
do you how much do you think they're putting on
(08:27):
this game in terms of judging him moving forward.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
That's a great question because of what's on the line,
and because of the defense that and the secondary that
is to be had in this game. Obviously, it's all
it's an accumulation, it's data points throughout two or three
seasons for Bryce Young. Let's call it two after the
first year disaster for everybody around here. But you know,
(08:51):
he's he's still had if you stack it up, more
bad days than good days, you know, and maybe an
even split this year at best. So I think, yes,
maybe Dan Morgan and their company weighed a little bit
more to see. Okay, what can you do when the
lights shine the brightest, which they won't really shine until
like the fourth quarter, obviously with a four thirty kick,
(09:11):
but the stage is said, and you know, this is
where this is why you draft the guy number one
overall and this is what he did at Alabama. Now
can he do it in the pros when the playoffs
are on the line? Dot dot that kind.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Of dot kind of All right, talk Hornets before we
let you go here. I was in the building last
night for the game against the Bucks. They played well.
They fought hard, the Hornets, that is, But then Giannis
and Bobby Porter and Bobby Portis rather and Miles Turner
took over in the fourth quarter. They lost Miles Bridges
at halftime. They never had Conk Nipple or Ryan Kalchbrenner
last night. But overall, there are a lot of positive
(09:46):
things from this team right now, and it seems like
they are maybe turning a corner a little bit. What
do you think of their their last week and a half?
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Yeah, I think as they gain health and you know,
granted you just talked about a couple of angle injuries
in there and an l injury. But as they gain
better health than they had the first portion of the season,
you start to see a little bit of traction. It's
not coming all at once. It's not an eight game
win streak, but it's been a better stretch. I do
believe Kank Nipple will come back as soon as humanly possible.
(10:15):
I think he wanted to play last night, but it
just wasn't in the cards. And they're being a little
bit careful, but he's not going to let them be
super cautious. I don't think. I haven't. I think it
comes out in like an hour the injury report for tomorrow,
or maybe sooner as the one o'clock game. Haven't seen
it either way, so correct me if I'm wrong. But
I think he'll try to play tomorrow. You know, write
a passage for Charlott Hornet, right, so to hould your
(10:36):
ankle up in a basketball game. But yes, I think
as we see the healthy versions of Tin, Nipple, LaMelo
and Miles with Bridges, when he can be healthy and efficient,
I think it's a better team than they've showed so
far and what their record has showed.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
All right, buddy, we appreciate you as always and you're
not going anywhere, but it's the end of the year,
so I want to say thank you for everything you
do for us. We always enjoy your Tuesday appearances and
we will do it again next Tuesday in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Same here. Look forward to it every year, every week. Buddy.
Thank you.
All right, let's go to Nick Carbony, NBC Charlotte Sports Director,
sports anchor. He's back with us, fresh out of a
Panther's locker room session. He's back a little later than
usual here on a Tuesday. Happy to year, brother, what's
going on?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
I'm good man. Tuesday is Wednesday. Wednesday is Thursday, Thursday,
it's Friday. It's a short week. But man, what a
what a happy holiday for Panthers fans or something to
play for in week eight? Team?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Yeah, it's awesome, man, it really is. Let's just real quick.
Let me get your thoughts out of the way. On Sunday,
you and I were in the press box together and
they listen, they lost to a good team. They lost
to the best team in the NFC at a Super
Bowl contender. But I think it's how they lost in
the fact that you know, Miami did their share. You
know that that really left fans pretty disappointed on Sunday's result.
What'd you think?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Yeah, losing to Seattle on face value is you know,
not that surprising. It's nothing to hang your head about
or think you can't go and do what the Panthers
have done since October nineteenth and go out there and
win the very next week. But yes, it sings doubly so.
I think for the two reasons you mentioned, the Bucks
(01:07):
losing to Miami and that golden opportunity being right there
for you around four o'clock on Sunday afternoon when both
games wrapped up, and then you know the turnovers and
the lack of passing game and offense overall. But you know,
part of that, you hand a seattle. Part of that.
You scratch your head like we do every other week
and say, you know, what's going on with the play calling,
(01:28):
the quarterback, the receivers in the old line. I thought
it was kind of a confluence of all of those.
But you know they're right back in it. We see,
this is how it goes over in this locker room
every other week. They're focused on this week and confident
that they can do it, you know, just like they've
done the last two months.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
What the overall offensive performance fifty four yards passing, not
nearly enough rushing production. I mean, the defense came to
play Nick, but the offense just laid an egg for
a multitude of reasons. Where do you start in assessing
the blame on the offense side? Because somebody's got to
take it.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Yeah, I think it's that's tough. I think it is
the lack of separation from the receivers in that particular
game against man coverage, which they didn't expect. So that
goes into coaching. I mean, Bryce Young having fifty four
passing yards in a professional football game is a jarring
stat And I don't want this to sound the wrong way,
(02:23):
but like I didn't think much of it until I
realized he had like sixteen with eight minutes to go
in the third quarter, because I wasn't looking at the
offense and going, this is all on nine. I just
don't think it was that. I mean, certainly's got a
part of it, but you know we've seen again every
other week where you know, it just doesn't sync up coaching,
play calling, quarterbacking, blocking, receiving. But you know, to me,
(02:47):
it was tmax illness, the man coverage and not being
able to adjust lea guests, many many miscues. You know,
Cocher being a nice player but still thinking they probably
need to add a big weapon or you know, a
one A to t Mac this offseason. Ja C Sanders
going down like all of it, another offensive line combination
(03:09):
and a good Seattle defense.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
What the As far as the health situation goes, we'll
get the official injury report, But I got people who
have wanted me to ask you what you learned today
about the injury situation. Robert Hunt has come up a
number of times as well. What do you know about Hunt?
I'm curious what we found out about David Moore as well,
and just a general availability of some of these guys
for week eighteen.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Yeah, Hunt and more full participants today. But again it's
a walkthrough, so you take that with a bit of
a grain of salt. But we did talk to Robert
Hunt and he told us he's still in a heck
of a lot better than he even did the time
he talked to us last week when they opened up
that twenty one day window, and of course he missed
last week's game, but according to him, according to Dave Canas,
is still a little bit too early in the week
(03:50):
to tell if he's going to be able to go
out there and do what he physically needs to do
in an NFL game against the Bucks defensive line. But
I will say, like if he has a good day tomorrow,
that would give you a lean on, like he may
be able to play Saturday. They've also got to keep
in mind they might they might need him the week after,
but not if they don't take care of business, and
not if Atlanta doesn't take care of business this weekend,
(04:14):
of course, but just it's I think we'll get a
lean one way or the other tomorrow on Hunt.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
As far as I'm concerned, if David Moore can go Saturday, Nick,
I know he hasn't played in a while. I'm giving
him excel snaps personally, Yeah, that's the way open.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Somebody they can't get open and know where they are
on the field and have that professionalism and reliability and awareness.
And he brought that to this team for the bulk
of last season and brought up Bryce Young a reliable
target that he could go to in key situations. So yes, absolutely,
you're You're one hundred percent right. You know, Dave can
allis when kind of you know, he always kind of
(04:49):
is asked about le get you know, whether he's gonna
bench m or not, and he kind of tows the
line there a little bit. But speaking of towing the line,
like he did reveal to us all that leaguet didn't
even see the officials signal that he was offside, So
I think there is definitely some frustration there under the surface,
and they can't afford to mess around anymore. They can't
afford to say, hey, it's okay. You know you're young,
(05:11):
and you know you didn't know better, because he does
by now, and they need better than that out there
on the field. So I think you're absolutely right. Didn't
have a whole lot of conversations about More or with
More today, but can tell you he was listed as
a full participant, so much like Robert Hunt kind of
on the same timeline. Tomorrow is gonna be really interesting
with those guys.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Now, I think you alluded to this, but even if
you didn't, it's fine. The fact that Seattle ended up
running a ton of man coverage on Sunday despite the
fact they came in leading the league in zone usage.
Dave Canalis admitted it. Bryce Young said it like it
really caught them off guard, and they're catching a lot
of criticism on my text line for their inability to adjust.
(05:49):
If I couple that with maybe, you know, being bottom
four in the NFL and points per game this year, like,
does that concern you about the future of the offense
at all. How do you ingest that?
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah, I mean, I think they've had more good days
on offense than at quarterback and play calling this year
than they did last year. But much like with the
team overall, it is still very much a work in progress.
Dave can Allis is in his third year as full
time play caller in the NFL, just a second balancing
head coaching and play calling. You haven't asked this, but
(06:20):
I don't think he's going to give that up, at
the least at the beginning of year three, not without
some outside help coming in different than what they have
here now. So yeah, I mean, and they're still adding.
They still need more weapons around Bryce Young. I mean,
t Mac was a fantastic pick. He's going to be
here for a long time and make a lot of
Pro Bowl The running backs are solid, but outside of that,
(06:41):
they don't have a lot of reliability for Bryce Young
to get the ball to. And I think that's a
big part of all this. You know, you look, you
look at this season without Adam feeling at David Moore,
as you said, but it's just all first and second
year guys out there.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
It's frustrating. Nick Carboni NBC Charlotte hanging out with us here.
Any thoughts on Jason Horn. Obviously third and twenty one
was a disaster on Sunday. He's overall had a good year.
I mean, he's a Pro bowler for the second straight year.
But between Sunday and a couple of miscues against the Saints,
I mean, it's been I think net Net it's been good, Nick,
but there have been some catastrophically bad snaps and Sunday's overall, yeah,
(07:18):
I mean not.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Having you know, any minute right after the game, didn't
he didn't need to have his hand up that high
on that play. You just need to shove him out
of bound. So kind of the I don't want to
say lack of maturity, because I think he's a leader
on the team. He's a mature individual off the field.
I'm not saying that, but just you've got to know
that situation. Got to come up with the pick in
the first half, got to stand your feet against the
Saints in that first game, you know. So overall, I
(07:43):
think he's got a very solid year and he's probably
going to make another Pro Bowl or two or three
the rest of his career. But like the rest of
this team. They kind of need to be able to
execute when everything's on the line, when that playoff spot
is there for the taking, when the ball is there
for the taking, when the downs are there for the
taking the team overall, that's the next step.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
I think for everybody, how big is Sunday for Bryce
Young just in terms of how they view him going
into the offseason. I hate reducing things to one game, Nick,
but I mean, here we are going toward the end
of his third year. It's been wildly inconsistent. He has
been better than like overall the last five games, you know,
in terms of being consistent. But after Sunday, Like, how
do you how much do you think they're putting on
(08:27):
this game in terms of judging him moving forward.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
That's a great question because of what's on the line,
and because of the defense that and the secondary that
is to be had in this game. Obviously, it's all
it's an accumulation, it's data points throughout two or three
seasons for Bryce Young. Let's call it two after the
first year disaster for everybody around here. But you know,
(08:51):
he's he's still had if you stack it up, more
bad days than good days, you know, and maybe an
even split this year at best. So I think, yes,
maybe Dan Morgan and their company weighed a little bit
more to see. Okay, what can you do when the
lights shine the brightest, which they won't really shine until
like the fourth quarter, obviously with a four thirty kick,
(09:11):
but the stage is said, and you know, this is
where this is why you draft the guy number one
overall and this is what he did at Alabama. Now
can he do it in the pros when the playoffs
are on the line? Dot dot that kind.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Of dot kind of All right, talk Hornets before we
let you go here. I was in the building last
night for the game against the Bucks. They played well.
They fought hard, the Hornets, that is, But then Giannis
and Bobby Porter and Bobby Portis rather and Miles Turner
took over in the fourth quarter. They lost Miles Bridges
at halftime. They never had Conk Nipple or Ryan Kalchbrenner
last night. But overall, there are a lot of positive
(09:46):
things from this team right now, and it seems like
they are maybe turning a corner a little bit. What
do you think of their their last week and a half?
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Yeah, I think as they gain health and you know,
granted you just talked about a couple of angle injuries
in there and an l injury. But as they gain
better health than they had the first portion of the season,
you start to see a little bit of traction. It's
not coming all at once. It's not an eight game
win streak, but it's been a better stretch. I do
believe Kank Nipple will come back as soon as humanly possible.
(10:15):
I think he wanted to play last night, but it
just wasn't in the cards. And they're being a little
bit careful, but he's not going to let them be
super cautious. I don't think. I haven't. I think it
comes out in like an hour the injury report for tomorrow,
or maybe sooner as the one o'clock game. Haven't seen
it either way, so correct me if I'm wrong. But
I think he'll try to play tomorrow. You know, write
a passage for Charlott Hornet, right, so to hould your
(10:36):
ankle up in a basketball game. But yes, I think
as we see the healthy versions of Tin, Nipple, LaMelo
and Miles with Bridges, when he can be healthy and efficient,
I think it's a better team than they've showed so
far and what their record has showed.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
All right, buddy, we appreciate you as always and you're
not going anywhere, but it's the end of the year,
so I want to say thank you for everything you
do for us. We always enjoy your Tuesday appearances and
we will do it again next Tuesday in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Same here. Look forward to it every year, every week. Buddy.
Thank you.
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