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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Let's talk to a guy who played both for the
Saints and the Carolina Panthers, played at Alabama too. He's
an SEC network and list and he's our buddy. Roman
Harper is back with us for a Wednesday conversation.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
What's up, Harp? How you doing? Buddy?
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Can't be? What's good? Man? I'm cool man, Just sitting
outside of this basketball gym waiting to pick my daughter up.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Ooh and like full blown practice. We've got tryouts.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
What's going on? Today's what's happening?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
No? No, she already made the team though that wasn't
the issue. It's just a practice, so, you know, the
season basketball stuff, starting to rep up for the kids,
and so she's in eighth grade playing JV, so she'll
be good.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Kind of fun. What kind of sports that are you?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Because in my experience, the guys who played at the
highest level are typically the guys who are most likely
just to lean back and let it ride and enjoy
it and not scream at the refs and not try
to overcoach.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
But some guys do. What kind of sports that are you?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
I am totally that guy, Kyle. I'm definitely the lean back,
chill guy. My wife is the one that's yelling, screaming
at everybody, yelling at the kids, and me, I just
kind of sit back because I was the same kid
that set the bench in junior high. And so I
have the belief that what is supposed to be will be,
and that ultimately that if the kid wants it and
(01:09):
works hard enough at it, then it's gonna make it
whatever it's going to be, and that you're not in
that much control, and that it's okay to not be
the best player when you were in sixth grade, seventh grade,
eighth grade, where everybody wants all the praise when you're young, Well,
guess what. I think more kids should lose when they're younger,
because it builds a certain characteristic about you. It builds
(01:29):
resolved toughness. It's like, you know, it's constant with as
the athlete, when you always get to answer the question
what are you going to do about it? I think
that's something that's built over time, and I think it's
something that all athletes need to go through.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
I'm getting personal here, but you know, you know me,
like if your boys say, Dad, I want to be
like you, I mean, I know they know who you
were and what you did. They're coming of age in
that way. Do you encourage that?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yeah? Yes, following my footsteps.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Oh for sure, I would definitely tell my my son
to all play football. And their dad played and played
in college and made it to the NFL four years
before he blew out his knee. My brother played in
college his free scholarship, and my sister went to school
on a scholarship. So yes, I would encourage all of
my kids, like it's in you. You would be third
or fourth generation at this point. You should play sports,
(02:17):
whether it's football, basketball, like whatever it is. But you
need to be out there because team sports adds a
lot of character. And then also, dude, like I married
your mom, we pro created for a reason. Let's do it.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
That's that o Cho Senko philosophy. I'm checking ankles. Whatever,
He's not wrong.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
I think more people should think about this. He's not wrong.
This is an honest truth.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Yes, you got to evaluate the athleticism of your potential partner.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Yeah, no, I get it.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
I totally understand, all right, learning for love kind of
wears out after thirty years, that love stuff kind of
wears thin.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Wow kid, Wow, Well, between that and outing your wife
on all the screaming and yelling on the sidelines. I
hope he's not listening right now. All right, let's talk
about the game. So what did you think about Carolina
going into Green Bay and beating the Packers on Sunday?
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Uh? That it's the NFL. Yeah, if green Bay comes in,
think you're you know, you can just sleep walk in
and we're at home. You just assume that's when you're
dead wrong. And you also great credit because the same
thing I said, like Carolina was gonna win seven eight
games this year, right, like that was the number due
they're well within striking distance. It's kind of like exactly
(03:30):
what happens throughout a season. Why I didn't get so
caught up on the non successes of the first three
to four weeks of the Carolina Panthers that hey, it's
just the season. It's called a season four reason and
not a game, and so you're gonna have these ebbs
these flows. I like that Carolina did what they needed
to do. Good job by the defense playing really well
(03:51):
in the game, where traditionally you've not been able to
say that the defense of Carolina Panthers has been the
reason why they've won games. So I like that as
a team you're finding different ways and more ways to win.
That builds confidence. Going to a place like Green Bay
Historic with all the love and all the pageantry that
it has, and all of a sudden you come out
(04:12):
there with a win. That gives you confidence going forward
that I don't need my quarterback to be one hundred
percent healthy. I don't need my quarterback to be have
his best game to go on the road and win.
I can lean on Rico Daddle and that he can
still run the rock officiently downhill. And we got to
continue to feed the hot hand. I think everybody learns
when Chuba Hubber came back that we love Cuba. Cuba's great,
(04:35):
but sometimes you're on a heater. You got to give
the heater and so you kind of got to just
continue to ride that hand. And what they're doing offensively
is working for them, and I assume it's going to
work again this weekend because the things aren't that good either.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Well, that's what I was going to ask you, like
I had Jake Deloman yesterday. Jake obviously does work with
the Panthers, but he lives in Louisiana. He follows the
Saints pretty closely. He did tell me that when they
went to New York to face the Jets, he felt like, Hey,
the Jets offense is bad. We can score, play keep away,
win the game that way. But he said he thinks
the Saints are a little bit more dangerous than people
(05:07):
are giving them credit for.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
I don't know how you feel about that. They're one
and eight.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
They just traded rashicha Eat away yesterday, they traded Trevor
Penning away. They got injuries all over the place, and
they're just not very good. Like, what's your read on this?
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Exactly what your last time says. They're just not good.
The rosters then they don't, they haven't hit a lot
of draft picks. They're in this phase of all right,
what do we need to do to try and get better?
And right now they're not there. And it'll be interesting
to see how this game kind of plays out because
it's a divisional game. How good of a home crowd
(05:41):
or at the home field advantage we're playing in Carolina
be I don't know if that's the thing either. It
really just comes out to the best team playing, and
right now Carolina's playing better. Carolina seems to be playing
for more right now. It seems like New Orleans is
playing for the future, which means I'm trying not to
win too much. I'm trying to tank without saying I'm
thanking get a better draft, Hick. Carolina's not in that phase.
(06:01):
Carolina's in a rush to try and improve and be
the best version of themselves because ultimately their jobs are
more at stake than what in New Orleans right now,
because they Kellen Moore just got there. Kellen Moore has rope.
Mickeymo's guys have rote Carolina. They do not have the
same rope, the tighter lease, and so they're in a
race to improve and they need to win. And right now,
(06:23):
the most desperate team wins eighty percent of the time
in football.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Roumanhart for two time Pro Bowler, Super Bowl champion SEC
Network analyst with us here for a Wednesday conversation college football.
Last night, the initial playoff rankings released by the Committee.
Four of the twelve teams that are in the field,
I believe or SEC teams A and M Alabama, Georgia, Ole,
miss You got six teams in the top twelve. You
got Ohio State at the top, Indiana at number two,
(06:49):
nine to zero. I talked to our buddy Ryan McGee
about this earlier in the show. I didn't see much
that was egregious, But what was your reaction, if anything,
to the initial rankings.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
I guess that Texas and Oklahoma have a better chance
than I thought they would or expected them to, But
ultimately I think both of those teams lose more games
than that. I try not to get caught up in
the rankings on the first week. Yeah, I also would
say that I always look for the team that's propping
everybody else up. Right now, it feels like Notre Dame
(07:23):
is a team that is propping everybody up. I don't
know who Notre Dame is actually beaten that's really good
besides the top twenty USC team, top twenty five USC team.
Other than that, they haven't won any games that I'm like,
oh man, that was a great tough win versus a
really good team. Indiana's a team that has beaten Oregon
(07:44):
on the road. But I would also want to question
who is Oregon beats and so these are the questions
that will continue to come up. I can say the
same thing about a really really good Texas A and
M team. I think Texas and M is fantastic as
a team. But if I challenge Org and I got
a challenge Texas, A and M too. That they've won
five SEC games, I believe. But Kyle, four out of
(08:08):
the five teams that they've beaten all have no longer
have their head coach. The coach have been fired. So
did they beat anybody great? Because last week Tennessee, we
thought Tennessee that was a guarantee we win in dark
mode whatever they went to and Oklahoma came in to
Knoxville and beat them. Well, if you look at who
Tennessee's actually beaten as far as SEC teams, those teams
(08:29):
are not good. So who you play and when you
play matters. I think we will continue to figure all
these things out. And it's still three or four more
weeks where the ACC has kind of played themselves out
of the playoffs as far as multiple teams, and we'll
see if other SEC teams are big ten teams are
do the same thing. I don't think so, But we're
gonna see.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
What do you make by the way of well, I'll
put it differently. Steve Sarkisian is already lobbying for a
nine to three Texas team to make the playoffs. They're
seven and two right now, so they don't even have
the third loss yet, but you just say it. You
think they're going to lose at least one more game.
You know, they open the season with that lost to
Ohio State, but they have ranked wins over Oklahoma and Vanderbilt.
There was no nine to three team, of course in
(09:10):
the inaugural twelve team bracket last year. Texas. It's name brand,
arch Manning, you know all the stuff that goes along
with them. Can you put a nine and three Texas
team in the playoff field?
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Uh? Yes, but that would mean the best ACC team wins.
And so the reason why you couldn't get more last
year is because they Clemson beat SMU. If SMU just
beats Clemson and holds Strong, then Clemson doesn't get in.
That's one that's one ACC team and that's another SEC
team in. So it's it's just not up to Texas anymore.
(09:46):
That part of it is true, and so that I
think that's what he's referring to is that man, if
you know it's not up to his controller all the
way in his power and ultimately, if you want to
be in beat Georgia, because right now that's that third
lost Georgia. Texas has not found a way to beat Georgia,
even though they were supposed to beat him last year
(10:07):
at home, they were supposed to beat him in the
SEC Championship. They can't do it. So for right now,
I'm looking at Texas as they have a Georgia problem
the same way Georgia has an Alabama problem. So everybody's
got problems. They're just they just look different in different colors.
So it'll be interesting now I understand. Start trying to
promote or talk about his own team. Nick Saban was
(10:28):
great at that. Whenever he needs to go out there
and lobby, he's gonna be on game day, he's gonna
be doing all these other things when his team was
just not destined or automatically penciled in to represent the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Roman Harper, we appreciate you, his always brother. Have a
safe flight out this weekend. We'll talk to you next Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Appreciate it. Kyle. Good luck to everybody. And Kyle, you
and your family and your wife look absolutely gorgeous in
Virginia Tech and Blacksburg this past week. Thanks job, great
family picture. It was awesome. You guys looked like a
winning team. I saw that was like that family. That's
a winning that's a winning god.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
That make that fires me up. So are we like?
Speaker 1 (11:05):
What do you think about James Franklin to Blacksburg? Then
how do you feel about it?
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Real quick?
Speaker 3 (11:09):
I've heard that the ink is almost drive that it's look, man,
I think he will be upgrade for you. He'll be
able to recruit, he'll be able to win eight or
nine games at the ACC. But it's also he has
to get over the hump. He's got to beat a
team that he's not supposed to be Like, at some point,
you got to do that or the you know, the
(11:31):
question will still remain the same. I think he's going
to have a long runway of Virginia Tech. Though Virginia
Tech's going to holds him for at least seven years.
I don't care what happens. I think he gets fall
flat on his face his first three years and Virginia
Tech's just going to ride.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Oh that's silly. He doesn't get the Matt rules. Seven
year plan, Now, come on, we're not doing that. But
what I will say is he's a coach that has
a reputation of not being able to win the big
one and get over the hump, and it matches the
reputation of the program, so they can prove it together.
They can prove it together. All right, Bud, I appreciate you.
We'll talk to you next week.
Let's talk to a guy who played both for the
Saints and the Carolina Panthers, played at Alabama too. He's
an SEC network and list and he's our buddy. Roman
Harper is back with us for a Wednesday conversation.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
What's up, Harp? How you doing? Buddy?
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Can't be? What's good? Man? I'm cool man, Just sitting
outside of this basketball gym waiting to pick my daughter up.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Ooh and like full blown practice. We've got tryouts.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
What's going on? Today's what's happening?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
No? No, she already made the team though that wasn't
the issue. It's just a practice, so, you know, the
season basketball stuff, starting to rep up for the kids,
and so she's in eighth grade playing JV, so she'll
be good.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Kind of fun. What kind of sports that are you?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Because in my experience, the guys who played at the
highest level are typically the guys who are most likely
just to lean back and let it ride and enjoy
it and not scream at the refs and not try
to overcoach.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
But some guys do. What kind of sports that are you?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
I am totally that guy, Kyle. I'm definitely the lean back,
chill guy. My wife is the one that's yelling, screaming
at everybody, yelling at the kids, and me, I just
kind of sit back because I was the same kid
that set the bench in junior high. And so I
have the belief that what is supposed to be will be,
and that ultimately that if the kid wants it and
(01:09):
works hard enough at it, then it's gonna make it
whatever it's going to be, and that you're not in
that much control, and that it's okay to not be
the best player when you were in sixth grade, seventh grade,
eighth grade, where everybody wants all the praise when you're young, Well,
guess what. I think more kids should lose when they're younger,
because it builds a certain characteristic about you. It builds
(01:29):
resolved toughness. It's like, you know, it's constant with as
the athlete, when you always get to answer the question
what are you going to do about it? I think
that's something that's built over time, and I think it's
something that all athletes need to go through.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
I'm getting personal here, but you know, you know me,
like if your boys say, Dad, I want to be
like you, I mean, I know they know who you
were and what you did. They're coming of age in
that way. Do you encourage that?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yeah? Yes, following my footsteps.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Oh for sure, I would definitely tell my my son
to all play football. And their dad played and played
in college and made it to the NFL four years
before he blew out his knee. My brother played in
college his free scholarship, and my sister went to school
on a scholarship. So yes, I would encourage all of
my kids, like it's in you. You would be third
or fourth generation at this point. You should play sports,
(02:17):
whether it's football, basketball, like whatever it is. But you
need to be out there because team sports adds a
lot of character. And then also, dude, like I married
your mom, we pro created for a reason. Let's do it.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
That's that o Cho Senko philosophy. I'm checking ankles. Whatever,
He's not wrong.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
I think more people should think about this. He's not wrong.
This is an honest truth.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Yes, you got to evaluate the athleticism of your potential partner.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Yeah, no, I get it.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
I totally understand, all right, learning for love kind of
wears out after thirty years, that love stuff kind of
wears thin.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Wow kid, Wow, Well, between that and outing your wife
on all the screaming and yelling on the sidelines. I
hope he's not listening right now. All right, let's talk
about the game. So what did you think about Carolina
going into Green Bay and beating the Packers on Sunday?
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Uh? That it's the NFL. Yeah, if green Bay comes in,
think you're you know, you can just sleep walk in
and we're at home. You just assume that's when you're
dead wrong. And you also great credit because the same
thing I said, like Carolina was gonna win seven eight
games this year, right, like that was the number due
they're well within striking distance. It's kind of like exactly
(03:30):
what happens throughout a season. Why I didn't get so
caught up on the non successes of the first three
to four weeks of the Carolina Panthers that hey, it's
just the season. It's called a season four reason and
not a game, and so you're gonna have these ebbs
these flows. I like that Carolina did what they needed
to do. Good job by the defense playing really well
(03:51):
in the game, where traditionally you've not been able to
say that the defense of Carolina Panthers has been the
reason why they've won games. So I like that as
a team you're finding different ways and more ways to win.
That builds confidence. Going to a place like Green Bay
Historic with all the love and all the pageantry that
it has, and all of a sudden you come out
(04:12):
there with a win. That gives you confidence going forward
that I don't need my quarterback to be one hundred
percent healthy. I don't need my quarterback to be have
his best game to go on the road and win.
I can lean on Rico Daddle and that he can
still run the rock officiently downhill. And we got to
continue to feed the hot hand. I think everybody learns
when Chuba Hubber came back that we love Cuba. Cuba's great,
(04:35):
but sometimes you're on a heater. You got to give
the heater and so you kind of got to just
continue to ride that hand. And what they're doing offensively
is working for them, and I assume it's going to
work again this weekend because the things aren't that good either.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Well, that's what I was going to ask you, like
I had Jake Deloman yesterday. Jake obviously does work with
the Panthers, but he lives in Louisiana. He follows the
Saints pretty closely. He did tell me that when they
went to New York to face the Jets, he felt like, Hey,
the Jets offense is bad. We can score, play keep away,
win the game that way. But he said he thinks
the Saints are a little bit more dangerous than people
(05:07):
are giving them credit for.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
I don't know how you feel about that. They're one
and eight.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
They just traded rashicha Eat away yesterday, they traded Trevor
Penning away. They got injuries all over the place, and
they're just not very good. Like, what's your read on this?
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Exactly what your last time says. They're just not good.
The rosters then they don't, they haven't hit a lot
of draft picks. They're in this phase of all right,
what do we need to do to try and get better?
And right now they're not there. And it'll be interesting
to see how this game kind of plays out because
it's a divisional game. How good of a home crowd
(05:41):
or at the home field advantage we're playing in Carolina
be I don't know if that's the thing either. It
really just comes out to the best team playing, and
right now Carolina's playing better. Carolina seems to be playing
for more right now. It seems like New Orleans is
playing for the future, which means I'm trying not to
win too much. I'm trying to tank without saying I'm
thanking get a better draft, Hick. Carolina's not in that phase.
(06:01):
Carolina's in a rush to try and improve and be
the best version of themselves because ultimately their jobs are
more at stake than what in New Orleans right now,
because they Kellen Moore just got there. Kellen Moore has rope.
Mickeymo's guys have rote Carolina. They do not have the
same rope, the tighter lease, and so they're in a
race to improve and they need to win. And right now,
(06:23):
the most desperate team wins eighty percent of the time
in football.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Roumanhart for two time Pro Bowler, Super Bowl champion SEC
Network analyst with us here for a Wednesday conversation college football.
Last night, the initial playoff rankings released by the Committee.
Four of the twelve teams that are in the field,
I believe or SEC teams A and M Alabama, Georgia, Ole,
miss You got six teams in the top twelve. You
got Ohio State at the top, Indiana at number two,
(06:49):
nine to zero. I talked to our buddy Ryan McGee
about this earlier in the show. I didn't see much
that was egregious, But what was your reaction, if anything,
to the initial rankings.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
I guess that Texas and Oklahoma have a better chance
than I thought they would or expected them to, But
ultimately I think both of those teams lose more games
than that. I try not to get caught up in
the rankings on the first week. Yeah, I also would
say that I always look for the team that's propping
everybody else up. Right now, it feels like Notre Dame
(07:23):
is a team that is propping everybody up. I don't
know who Notre Dame is actually beaten that's really good
besides the top twenty USC team, top twenty five USC team.
Other than that, they haven't won any games that I'm like,
oh man, that was a great tough win versus a
really good team. Indiana's a team that has beaten Oregon
(07:44):
on the road. But I would also want to question
who is Oregon beats and so these are the questions
that will continue to come up. I can say the
same thing about a really really good Texas A and
M team. I think Texas and M is fantastic as
a team. But if I challenge Org and I got
a challenge Texas, A and M too. That they've won
five SEC games, I believe. But Kyle, four out of
(08:08):
the five teams that they've beaten all have no longer
have their head coach. The coach have been fired. So
did they beat anybody great? Because last week Tennessee, we
thought Tennessee that was a guarantee we win in dark
mode whatever they went to and Oklahoma came in to
Knoxville and beat them. Well, if you look at who
Tennessee's actually beaten as far as SEC teams, those teams
(08:29):
are not good. So who you play and when you
play matters. I think we will continue to figure all
these things out. And it's still three or four more
weeks where the ACC has kind of played themselves out
of the playoffs as far as multiple teams, and we'll
see if other SEC teams are big ten teams are
do the same thing. I don't think so, But we're
gonna see.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
What do you make by the way of well, I'll
put it differently. Steve Sarkisian is already lobbying for a
nine to three Texas team to make the playoffs. They're
seven and two right now, so they don't even have
the third loss yet, but you just say it. You
think they're going to lose at least one more game.
You know, they open the season with that lost to
Ohio State, but they have ranked wins over Oklahoma and Vanderbilt.
There was no nine to three team, of course in
(09:10):
the inaugural twelve team bracket last year. Texas. It's name brand,
arch Manning, you know all the stuff that goes along
with them. Can you put a nine and three Texas
team in the playoff field?
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Uh? Yes, but that would mean the best ACC team wins.
And so the reason why you couldn't get more last
year is because they Clemson beat SMU. If SMU just
beats Clemson and holds Strong, then Clemson doesn't get in.
That's one that's one ACC team and that's another SEC
team in. So it's it's just not up to Texas anymore.
(09:46):
That part of it is true, and so that I
think that's what he's referring to is that man, if
you know it's not up to his controller all the
way in his power and ultimately, if you want to
be in beat Georgia, because right now that's that third
lost Georgia. Texas has not found a way to beat Georgia,
even though they were supposed to beat him last year
(10:07):
at home, they were supposed to beat him in the
SEC Championship. They can't do it. So for right now,
I'm looking at Texas as they have a Georgia problem
the same way Georgia has an Alabama problem. So everybody's
got problems. They're just they just look different in different colors.
So it'll be interesting now I understand. Start trying to
promote or talk about his own team. Nick Saban was
(10:28):
great at that. Whenever he needs to go out there
and lobby, he's gonna be on game day, he's gonna
be doing all these other things when his team was
just not destined or automatically penciled in to represent the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Roman Harper, we appreciate you, his always brother. Have a
safe flight out this weekend. We'll talk to you next Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Appreciate it. Kyle. Good luck to everybody. And Kyle, you
and your family and your wife look absolutely gorgeous in
Virginia Tech and Blacksburg this past week. Thanks job, great
family picture. It was awesome. You guys looked like a
winning team. I saw that was like that family. That's
a winning that's a winning god.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
That make that fires me up. So are we like?
Speaker 1 (11:05):
What do you think about James Franklin to Blacksburg? Then
how do you feel about it?
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Real quick?
Speaker 3 (11:09):
I've heard that the ink is almost drive that it's look, man,
I think he will be upgrade for you. He'll be
able to recruit, he'll be able to win eight or
nine games at the ACC. But it's also he has
to get over the hump. He's got to beat a
team that he's not supposed to be Like, at some point,
you got to do that or the you know, the
(11:31):
question will still remain the same. I think he's going
to have a long runway of Virginia Tech. Though Virginia
Tech's going to holds him for at least seven years.
I don't care what happens. I think he gets fall
flat on his face his first three years and Virginia
Tech's just going to ride.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Oh that's silly. He doesn't get the Matt rules. Seven
year plan, Now, come on, we're not doing that. But
what I will say is he's a coach that has
a reputation of not being able to win the big
one and get over the hump, and it matches the
reputation of the program, so they can prove it together.
They can prove it together. All right, Bud, I appreciate you.
We'll talk to you next week.
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