November 28, 2025 • 48 mins
In the show's opening hour, Will recaps the events of Thanksgiving in sports, while also looking to the concerns the Panthers face with the red-hot LA Rams coming to town.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Happy Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Still it is The Kyle Bailey Show Sports Radio ninety
two seven wfn Z. Willie p in for KB here
today it is a Black Friday reserve edition of The
Kyle Bailey Show, although Smoke Ludwig is still here, so
we at least have one half of the regular tandem
in here today and we hope to keep you entertaining
(00:33):
over the course of the next three hours as well
as into the night. With Hornets basketball against the Chicago Bulls.
Hornet's trying to break a seven game losing streach. We'll
get into a little bit later on today, of course,
Panthers and the Rams. This weekend, you've got all the
holiday hoops to recap as well, Duke winning UNC slipping
up against Michigan State. We've got college football on as well,
(00:56):
including the Egg Bowl, which Michigan still assuming yeah, this
would be stayed rather just score to pull within eleven
on Ole miss Lay watches on definitely Utah's beating Kansas
twenty four to fourteen. Iowa is kicking Nebraska's patuity at
the end of the day. Forty to sixteen is the
score there. We've got clean, old fashioned, hated three thirty
(01:17):
We've got an NFL game also on as well, and
plenty to get into with you as well. Seven oh
four five seven nine six ten. I'm gonna kick the
phone lines open throughout the day because I feel like
if you listen on Black Friday and you want to
call in, deserve the right to have some time.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
I feel like that's okay. Text lines opens as well.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Brought to you by our friends and fan duel seven
oh four five seven o nine six ten. This is
a live local program, folks, So it's not like I'm
sitting here recording this or having been done in my basement.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
I am sitting here.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
I'm looking at smoke Ludwig, I see f a hat,
I see a red shirt. Confirm those things for me.
I can see you. You are not color blinds, so
not are How was your Thanksgiving?
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Was it good?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
It was good, very calm, very quiet, very nice to
be around the family, just really nice. And the weather
wasn't too bad. It wasn't as cold as it was
yesterday or today. But yeah, it's definitely very nice. And
it's pretty cool to stay at home during the holidays,
which is what we always do. I'm glad I don't
have to travel as much as some other people do
(02:16):
during the holiday season.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
I tell you what, having my folks down here is
like the greatest thing in the world because they have
had years where they've either gone up for Thanksgiving to
see my sister. But now with the four of us
down here, it's usually okay, you can come down and
see us, or we'll see it Christmas. So what, your
sister's down here too, No, no, no, she's gonna she
(02:40):
went to go see since here's the thing. Now, she's
gonna have in laws because she's getting married in May,
so she went to go see them this weekend, although
her actual future in law parents are in Asia right now.
In fact, the other day they were at the taj
Mahal all dang of all places. Flex well, they're I
(03:03):
mean they're they're both Chinese by nature, so that's they've
made They made it a whole you know thing.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
They went to go see family, et cetera, and so on.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
But in normal situation, she would be they would be
in they'd be in Flushing, Queens, Ah, not as glamorous.
In your future in laws are also Mets fans.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
No, actually not actually Yankee fans. Oh well, it's it's
believe me, it's contentious, god blest, it's He's actually a
very good sport about it. He's one of these people
who will like he will, he will give the good
nature ribbing, but he won't like take it personally because
he knows he's sitting in an entire family that isn't
So it's, uh, it's fine, We're all right.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
He's a nice kid. He's a he's a he's a
lawyer too, so.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
He works for the Fed. So he's a nice dude. Yes, yeah,
he's a lawyer for the Fed Federal Reserve. That's what
he is there, it is she keed Bartol's listening. By
the way, You know if you saw that on the
text line, chakd what's up, Shackett? How long did you
make it before your first nap?
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Yesterday?
Speaker 3 (04:07):
I fought late in the fourth quarter of the Green
Bay game. I thought I was gonna I usually am
not a napper, but.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
I felt like on on Thanksgiving Day, Yeah, I got
close one time, but then I tried to go lay
down and I'm like, nope, ain't working.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
So I just stayed up, and I stayed up for
all entire day.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
I fell asleep in the middle of the first half
of the Chief Cowboy game and then woke up and
post Malone was on my TV and I was like,
what am I doing?
Speaker 1 (04:37):
What's happening?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Said says that post Malone or jelly Roll through like
my half hazed eyes, and I was like, Okay, that's
post Malone.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
That's way too skinny to be jelly Roll.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
It is it is now, it is at least, And
so my dad was like, that's post Malone, as he
says it the way that most people in their seventies
say post Malone without.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Having Malone having in a way that he's never seen.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
And also, so if you are a Thanks Even Day
parade fan, I'm I am now at the point where
the Macy's parade is actually geared towards people my age
because the music that was popular when I was in
middle school and high school was literally all I saw
on the floats yesterday because there was Shaggy Jewel was there.
(05:21):
There were a couple of other like random bands too
as well. Little John was there. Yeah, although Little John
was also in Baltimore last night and people got angry
that NBC didn't showed Little John. After we had to
watch the seven Nation Army guy at Jack White.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Yeah, Jack White, That's what I'm saying. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
In Detroit, which was at halftime perform it was great.
It was great as the eminem part was the real
great part, let's be real, and we got to see
all the post malone, So.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
That's what that was. It was a good time.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Both games of the early slate I think were very great.
Bengals Ravens was a snooze fest.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
I wasn't watching that because I was fully into back
basketball by that point.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
I had the basketball for me was on both the
secondary TV, so I definitely took in UNC Michigan State,
obviously having to thumb it back a little bit after
I had fell fallen asleep during the first half of
the Chiefs, but I definitely definitely got myself caught up
on the DVR. Watched all of Duke in Arkansas. That
was a great game. Great game last night. Duke gets
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the victory. We'll get into that of course. And also
Lane Kiffin has rolled out Florida down to LSU or
staying put egg Bowl right now is presently on.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
We'll get a play that just probably ended it too. Yeah,
we ate your touchdown pass to get at the thirty
eight nineteen with about eight minutes left to go, So.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Then we will left after the game is over. We'm
sure we'll get the requisite hob nobbing and he hawing
from from lane Kiffen. I also found it interesting that
there was some gamesmanship for the game because of some
fans who came in and apparently stole the jersey of
the starting quarterback twice and three am sit her down
down to their third.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
The third quarterbacks Jersey Chambliss. But that has not stopped
Tambless at all. He has looked tremendous.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
He has not been stopped by anything, including Jersey pilfery
a lah Michael Jordan from the Orlando game that when
he was very very young in his career and he
had the way it up at twelve. Of course, we
have news on the Panthers who will miss a lot
of key contributors going into this game this weekend against
the Los Angeles Rams. In fact, Christian rose Boom will
(07:27):
not play linebacker injury with the hip and ham string.
No Kid Mays, no Chandler Zavalla, no j C. Horn,
no Claude and Cheralis, and of course no Trevon Mayrigg,
who is suspended for the shot below the belt that
took place against Juwan Jennings. And I'll say it again.
You know, I think Matt Mack and Bone in the morning,
we're kind of like, is.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
That really gonna warn a suspension. I'm like, yes, it is.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
I think we all were kind of expecting it to
be a suspension, and honestly, I'm shocked there wasn't more
than what it was.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Well luckily for Carolina once Jamar Chase gets one game
for spitting. Yes, I think spitting in nutcracker shots are
kind of in the same scale. And you think about
it too in the NBA, I mean, d one of
the most infamous suspensions ever Amon Green, you know, for
multiple times kicking somebody in the nuts. He did that
(08:19):
to Lebron in game four. It was four, Yeah, miss game,
that's what suspitted one game. So I think the president
has been set, not in the NFL, but just another sports.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Across sport below the belt shot.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
So yeah, nutcracker shots, one game suspension.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
This is a very very tough game for Carolina. I'm
not telling you anything. You don't have to know. Rams
are very very good team. They've proven so here over
the course in the last couple of weeks, and Carolina
has been inconsistent. Let's just call it what it is.
They've they've had very good moments to this point of
the season. Twelve games in they said, six and six,
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wins over Dallas, wins over Green Bay, and and obviously
taking care of business in the division with Atlanta tripping
up against teams like New Orleans and Buffalo, and again,
I know those two teams are at the opposite ende
of the spectrum, but it just gives you a cross
section of what has been a very inconsistent year, and
it has also caused a lot of us to kind
of recalibrate where we sit with Carolina. I'll get into
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how exhausting that is felt over the course of this program,
because so much of where I think people's perception of
this team is.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
It almost feels like it's very variable.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
We can feel incredible after a victory like we saw
over the Falcons, and yet come back six, you know, seven,
eight days later and you see the point Hunter game,
and we're seeing a lot of the things that frustrated us,
the inability to cover the boundary, the inability to get
a real symbiotic relationship going between Canalis and Bryce, and
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a lot of things that, to be brutally honest, are
probably growing pains, but are also still constant frustrations of
a team that we still feel like can turn the
corner and take the next step, just a matter of
whether or not you feel like this quarterback coach Combo
is going to be trying to make that happen.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
In terms of that, of course, when you think about the.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Issues that they are going to have to overcome on defense,
according to what Dave Knalis said in his press conference today,
his Fast Friday press conference, Chris Barnes is going to
start in place a Christian rose Boom. Looks like it'll
be Corbett at center, Jake Kerhan at right guard, and
in terms of the cornerback position, it'll be a combination
(10:37):
of Shaw Smith, Wade and a Caleb Evans trying to
fill in the blanks there with j. C. Horn And
obviously they will also bring in bring back Trevin Wallace
from the linebacker positions. So that's at least a good
spot for them to be in that they get at
least one of their starters back, even though they're going
to be down five or six contributors they did also
sign if you missed it over I late Wednesday, they
(10:59):
signed Isaiah Simmons, about five years too late for a
lot of Panther fans after the.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Dry I had to be wrong, and I'm glad he's
here now, but thank god they didn't take him at seven.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
I was always a big Isaiah Simmons fan when he
was a Clemson. I always thought that was a chess
piece type guy and somebody who could be you know
that almost kind of like what may Rig is for
the Panthers now. And I think many people thought that
that was going to be something that is done for
the immediate interim, But according to what Dave Canalis said,
he is probably more likely looking at a special team's
(11:35):
roll right off the bat. Maybe there is some role
for him beyond that, but just too too quickly to
get him really integrated and implemented into the defensive game plan.
I think unless it goes into something of an emergency
situation for Isaiah Simmons, they will trust some of the
other guys in the back there, like Leithan Ransom and
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Bonnie Richison as well to try and at least keep
things going. They were basically all the way right down
at some of their their threadbare guys. They also also
picked up off the wave of wire Robert Rochelle, which
prompted a very nice joke from Nick Carboni about the
fictional fictional movie involving Seinfeld Rochelle Rochelle, a strange a
(12:17):
girl's strange, eerotic journey from Alando Mintz, which again, it
only makes sense if you've seen Seinfeld, which again I
know a lot of you might maybe have not seven
oh four or fives of an nine six' Ten hornets
tonight seven straight, losses they are four and. Fourteen we're
gonna talk about it With Rod boon coming up at four.
O'clock but just, briefly, Now, smoke this has gotten to
(12:38):
a point WHERE i believe you said the word. CROSSROADS
i THINK i saw our Friend Notta edwards Say Ruba.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Khan there feels like.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
There could be a reckoning if this does not turn
itself around in the next couple of.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Games, yeah and tonight is the start of. That when
you're going to gainst A bulls team At, hall The
bulls team THAT i think is a winnable, game but
the losses are really starting to stack up. NOW i
Think i've lost like five or six in a, row
And wednesday night it felt like you guys they were,
sleepwalking especially in that second quarter against the next The
knicks could just put up any shot they want to
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and it would go. In it's just a problem that's
been persisting throughout the whole. Year defense hasn't gotten. BETTER i,
mean you look at the stats the first quarter three
point percentage for the opposing teams when they played The.
Hornets even when they're not a good three point shooting,
team the worst that they'll they'll get is about forty eight.
Percent that they'll shoot fifty percent from three to start
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a quarter against The. Hornets and then just the lack
of daisical effort all across the board on wednesdaye where
it felt like they were just trying to get to
The turkey dinner.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Tomorrow it just was.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Laughable and it just shows, THAT i don't, know if
it doesn't look like the culture is working based on
that game, yesterday if you just tuned in, THAT i
think there are guys that are working their butt off
that actually are really. GOOD i definitely think that's the. Case,
unfortunately one of them Was konkin. Nipple he had one
of his rare off. Nights that was that was that was.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Rough my wife we were at the game together On
wednesday night and she's, Like i've only Seen con play
in person twice and it was the two. Game it
was his first ever, game which was all, right but
again kind of getting his feet. Wet and then this
game where she's, like, oh my, goodness you, know and
we're going Again, saturday and she's, LIKE i hope to goodness,
gracious he doesn't have another off.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Night otherwise she's going.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
To have a complex about her because we both Like,
con we both like what he's done to this point
of the.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Season and, again one game does not define.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Him but when even he's not, hitting it was it
was very much evident that The hornet's going to have
a tough Night chicago nine in. Eight they're not again
WHAT i would call a world. Beater Nick futvic is still,
involved but he's off the, bench so it's a little bit.
Different at least he was off the bench last game they.
Played Iyo desumu is you, know hitting pretty well twenty
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eight points in the victory OF.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Us.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Yeah in of, course Bizellis Josh, giddy guys who are
again their, names But i'm not going to sit here
and say that they. Are they also have the capability
of losing to a team like The. PELICANS i believe
that Was James barego's first win since taking over for The.
Pelicans then, again The hornets can't take anyone for, granted
considering they've lost to both The pelicans and The.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Pacers they have and it's just one of those situations
where you can't win games like, that you're. Losing on
top of, Losing there's been guys that have been here
for a, while LIKE i don't Think LaMelo is going
to get traded during this, deadline but the chances of
him possibly getting traded in the FUTURE i think are
only rising if this season continues to go like, this
especially with the way that he's been, playing because his
shooting has been, awful.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Especially since coming.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Back and part of the problem is you get a
guy who's injury, problem but when he's not, injured it
feels like half the games he's spent trying to get
back into a, rhythm and then the hat or half
he's back into a. Rhythm but then you have to
worry about the other two, dropping which is him getting
hurt again with an, ankle and.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
It seems like there's been a pretty hard cap on
his minutes around twenty seven to twenty eight.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Minutes same For Brandon miller. Too, yeah and.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Even those have not necessarily born the kind of productivity
like you said that we're used to seeing from The
melow even when he is. Healthy and we'll Get Rod
boone's thoughts, on you, know about a week out from
that big trade rumor report slash non, report slash quash,
report whether or not any of that maybe still has
some staying power or hold some water even a week.
(16:21):
Later we'll get into those things with, him and also
whether or not the seat is hot Underneath Charles lee
as The hornets get ready for The bulls tonight seven
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and smoke here with you In For. Kyle bailey, of
course we've got a lot to get to, here today
not just what's going on presently across the world, to
sports but obviously getting you ready For the panthers And.
(16:41):
The rams is this just What the panthers will be
the rest of, The year and we'll just have to
kind of hold onto the. Roller coaster i'll inswer That
NEXT sport's RADIY one a TWO seven wfnz looks like it's,
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all over but the Crying and starkville is about three
and a half to go in the. Fourth quarter ole
miss has got a thirty eight. Nineteen lead they're actually
knocking down the doord to potentially score again here when
the final three. Twenty Plus although lane might just sit, ON.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
It i, don't know especially after what happened earlier in
this game with The breujjas h And lan kiff and
Calling Out mississippi state's ad. At halftime, MM hm i
wouldn't be shocked if he wants to run it up here.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
On him what if he runs like a trick play
or something.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Just to all the fisticuss will, be happening just to
throw it, out there and it'll be extra salt in
the Wound Form, mississippi state because remembered they started a
year five four to oz and they've had a lot
of close losses and they if they would have won,
this game it would Have been bowl eligibility. FOR them
i have a Much larger lane conversation baked into a
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latter part of, the show and we'll Get another panthers
here in just.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
A moment but.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
While we're on, the subject there is, a big big
part of me That wants lane to stay just because
of the FACT that i don't want these two schools
that have been basically thrust into THE limelight Lsu, And florida,
AND again I know florida basically got taken out of.
THE running i DON'T want Lsu and florida to be
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rewarded for holding themselves TO what i think are impossible
standards based on where they. Are PRESENTLY like I understand
florida's won a. NATIONAL championship I know lsu has won
a national championship.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
In there recent, dish history but.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Trying, to, say hey we deserve to be on the
Level that, albema is and firing People Like, brian KELLY
who i again would never really stand, up For And,
billion napier who again was the darling of the ball
when it came to him being Hired. BY florida i
know it wasn't Necessarily A glamor, glamor higher but of
the group of five guys that were available at, the
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time he was, the one and both those guys get
get get burked in the, same year and, it's, like
like do you understand how people perceive? You PRESENTLY like
i understand there are people who will Probably, venerate FLORIDA
venerate lsu to a. Certain level we're all laughing at
(19:21):
you right now because of how bad, you Look And
penn state to a, lesser DEGREE because, i, think.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Well here's the Problem With.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
PENN state i think they might end up getting the
run to, The litter they might end up getting the
worst hand delt here because they got they got rid
of a coach who literally got them to a national
semi final ten, months ago and they don't have an
idea where, they're going and they're losing recruits that that said.
Coach got, SO again i want any of these schools
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who feel like they think they're better than they are
and they think that they're blank. DON'T stink I want
i want them to be punished for this because what,
happened yesterday like with With drink woods Staying at missoo and
some of these other guys who, are saying you, know
what it's probably a lot easier in this era of
college football to stay put than to try and get
(20:18):
buy in, from donors they get buy in on an l,
nil collective, keep players. Get players the portal is this
staying is looking a heck of a lot better in
this era of. College, FOOTBALL heck I Mean clark lee
just signed a new Contract extension underbilt.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
And all did you also see the other big shoot
to drop Today. At vandy they just got to commit
flip quarterback five star that Was at georgia and that's
now Going. TO vandy a five star quarterback is Going,
to Vandy.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Not. Tennessee vandy who's taking? His?
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Tests though that's. My question well saying could be said
right Now, FOR diego, I can't I can't, I get,
but no it just shows you weren't a new era
of college football in some of the status. Quo spots,
you know The the Krim Did, la creme maybe Not
the Krim did. Lacrim anymore And, for florida you haven't
been To krimdon lacrim in fifteen. Sixteen years you're not
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recruiting kids that. ARE that i did Not Watch tim tebow.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
And and and not, for nothing how much of that
with the two head coaches associated with those.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Glory years that's. Very fair how how much of how
much of it is that and how lucky one of
them was one of?
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Your own because because pardon me for for turning this
into A bashed, florida segment but what have they done
outside Of the spurrier urban years that has?
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Impressed you, i'll wait? Thank?
Speaker 2 (21:47):
You uh AND, AN lsu I mean lsu probably has
a little bit more lore behind them because, you know
definitely because you because you had to say but and
you had less you had you know.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Again it or Drawn With, Joe Burrow Joe.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Barcus russell before he returned INTO an nfl bust one
hundred percent all, good things not saying anything necessarily bad,
About them but.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
You also HAVE what i would call.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Organizational dysfunction that just seems to, Follow YOU like i
know you saw the piece That ross ellinger wrote that
basically chronicled all the back dealing and the governor and
all the people who basically feel like they have their
hands on the football department and they probably.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Really shouldn't or don't really do so.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Anywhere else so, from that from that point, OF view
i say that all, To say lane probably looks at
that and says not, for me if in fact he
ends up Staying. All miss but at the end of
the day he could be arrogant enough, to say you,
KNOW what I think i can take on. That challenge
and we wait for the final of, this game and
also whether or not it ends up going by. THE
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wayside i told my wife he's still going to GO.
To lsu she thinks he's going. TO stay i wanted.
To stay i've gone back and forth about five or.
SIX times i think It, maybe florida but Didn't get
now it's down To.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
L show i Never thought florida had. A share i didn't.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Think the problem is the governor's Talking about will wanted
to spend money. Or, not well in a situation, like
this you basically have to give Him a godfader Offer With.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Jimmy sexton.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
So, seven, five, seven nine six ten is that can?
Touch me willie Pee on Twitter at willie, P style
and that game's got three minutes, to go And And
ole miss is still throwing, the football so they are
at least trying to potentially go in for a kill,
shot score not that they necessarily.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Need one also GOT the nfl game on.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
As Well the bears actually just scored took a six
nothing lead pending the extra point Over The. Philadelphia Eagles The,
chicago bears what many are calling the worst eight and
three team in all.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
The football but they're making.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
It work they're making, it work and it turned into
a pretty decent, game too when you think about the
way that that this is going for those two seven or,
four fives nine. TO. Six psl sucker is wanting to
get In on thanksgiving after day otherwise Known As.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Black friday what's? GOING On? Psl sucker how are?
Speaker 3 (24:10):
You?
Speaker 4 (24:10):
Pale well first, Of, ALL willie i will Say that
i'm thankful for this. Radio station, YOU know i love
radio the immediacy. Of it there's something intimate about it
that you.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Really don't get at any, other medium.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
And you guys do it. Exceptionally well. Thank YOU and
i would also say You and.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Smoke are an interesting pair.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
And a very good listen in that you are very.
CONTRASTING personalities i think we make, it work though you,
definitely do but it's a it's a. Fascinating CONTRAST and
i got two things.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
For you, YOU know i went To the.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
HORNETS game i want to get in About the hornets
before you Turn. The PANTHERS and i don't go to.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
A Lot of, hornets games hard to watch THEM.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
On tv did you like the, new arena by, the
way the new or at least the, RENOVATED arena i
should say it's.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
VERY bright i liked it quite. A.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Bit.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
YES uh i Was watching LaMelo very carefully anytime he
was on, the floor when he was going to.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
The bench AND what.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
I noticed about, him is and this is The reason
i'm asking, a question he doesn't jump on.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
His, jumpers no is?
Speaker 4 (25:22):
That new is?
Speaker 1 (25:24):
That kind that's that's, Not new that's. Not new he's
always done that because you know.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
That would be the motion that would hurt the most with.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
An ankling bit he's he's done that his.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
Entire career, Oh OKAY so i thought PERHAPS that i
thought perhaps that.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Was, Injury, rely no he just he's he's he's always
not had a lot OF uh i had a lot.
Of jump now there are times where he will like
try to go in the air and and and elevate
and that in. That way but when it comes to
the straight up uh set, Shot, jumper no he just
he's very very, little uh very little elevation.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
On that.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Very.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
Interesting uh and then my question is do you have
any information on what the total was the gout Raised.
ON wednesday i grant you don't.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
HAVE that i don't have.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
THAT yet i think what they typically like to do
and appreciate the. Call pal they like to let it
go through. The weekend they try to tabulate also all
the food donations and bake that into. The total we
should have a number, for you if not by the
time we go on The air sunday for countdown, to
kickoff at Least, by monday so we'll figure. That OUT
but i appreciate the, phone call and also appreciate all
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the people who came By on wednesday and donated for,
Street Turkeys, Second Harvest food Back of Metrolina and nourish
up to fantastic work in. Our community all the stuff,
stays here which is something that's very important to our.
Radio station and appreciate not just the, monetary donations but
anybody who stopped by and gave, frozen turkeys can. Good
etc and so on to Our annual thanksgiving food drive
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effort To the panthers And.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
The rams.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
This weekend this is going to be something where it
will feel very much like the home version Of The Green,
bay game because you're playing a team who is, incredibly
hot and you're playing a team that needs to win
to keep pacing their.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Own division rams are nine and two ten.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Point favorites they've Got the seahawks to have to, Contend
with They've Got san francisco to have to. Contend with
this is NOT what i would consider, to be, you,
know something that's an enviable Position, for Carolina and i'm
not saying it's an. Impossible task. One thing also they're
saying too there could be some weather Involved, on sunday
so that's maybe bakes in a little bit, of otherwise
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a little bit of. Other INTRIGUE because i think About
What rico daddell said after the Game, on MONDAY then
i think About How dave canalis kind of addressed It.
On WEDNESDAY because i think you're seeing Now where dave
still is trying to get the in game feel for
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how these. Things work because there have been a couple
of times, THIS season i, would say even Very Recently
new Orleans And san francisco where the plan has just looked.
All Wrong From Jump street, Arizona two arizona was another
that's a very very. GOOD point i Wouldn't say jacksonville
because first game of, the year you really that's that's
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that's a little.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Bit UNFAIR and i think we've kind of found Out
that jacksonville team's actually much.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
BETTER than i think we all thought they. Would be,
That's fine I'm not. I'm not i'm not going to
impute him for. That one but BUT what i, will
say those those three Market Examples, BUFFALO buffalo i. THROW
out i throw that one Out because buffalo is a,
great team backup quarterback who's hurt in, the game they
are coming off.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Of bye that. That one those.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Things happen but but those three, Other, Instances Arizona new
Orleans And, san francisco it Felt like davenalys did not
have the correct breakdown or game plan on how to
beat those.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Teams offensively And while arizona.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Was earlier in, the year and maybe you gave a
little bit, more grace you kind of know what this
football team is, right NOW and i think they got
a little spooked by how some of these teams have
stopped the run against them.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Here recently not every team is going to Do What new.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Orleans did not every team is going to Do what
atlanta did two weeks ago And make bryce.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
BEAT them.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
I think you still have to figure out whether or
not you can run the football against the team before
you completely. Junk in and here's, the thing it's not
like that game was ever in a situation where it
was so far out of reach that you had to immediately.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Throw It.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
That san francisco never led by more than eleven. Pool
points so pardon Me if i'm looking at this and
saying that they've jumped up on the they've junked the run.
Too quickly and because he got spooked by the last
couple of weeks, and said oh, oh well, hell no
we're going to run.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
It now we have to throw. It now and the metrics.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Showed You san francisco's a team that's vulnerable to giving
up a lot of run plays and explosive. Run plays
they are also a team that defensively has a trouble
starting to stop in. The pass to be very, very
fair it's something we talked About with WALKER and I on.
FRIDAY afternoon i said this could be a game once
Again for bryce where he can get himself some. Real
confidence but the most disappointing part about What happened monday
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was not about necessarily the. Game plan it was about
being unable to take advantage of three turnovers that were handed,
to you particularly second in goal from, the ONE which
i know made. Her angry and you obviously are not
going to be able to overcome that in a game Against,
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the rams regardless.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Of VENUE.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
So i guess my Thing is i'm not as worried
about The the bryce inefficiencies SMOKE as i am how
this quarterback and this head coach, mesh together because we
know it was an. Arranged MARRIAGE and i think we
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saw a lot of people After The san francisco game
take market shots at, both gentlemen and there was, this
big big consternation about who's the bigger problem Is?
Speaker 1 (31:45):
It bryce Is?
Speaker 2 (31:46):
It Dave and i'm here to tell you that if
you had to boil it down to my opinion, OF
it i would say the problem is just they do.
Not mix it's become incredibly Evident that bryce does not trust,
excuse Me that dave does Not, trust bryce and that
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there are Times when bryce gets a Play, From dave
hey probably checked out of. That Run if i'm being
one hundred, PERCENT honest i have No one god's. Honest
truth But when, Dave, said hey there was a run
check to that or that that that package of plays
that they ran on that second goal from the one
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had to run baked.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Into it.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
That honestly tells me that you've got to distrust right
now between your quarterback and your.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Head coach, i'm sorry THAT'S where, i disagree because if
you've had that much of a distrust in, your quarterback
why are you throwing it?
Speaker 1 (32:41):
That much that's.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
MY thing i think what we Saw on monday was
more of a Distrust Of, dave canals not trust in
his interior, offensive Lineman Not. Damian LEWIS but i don't
think he Fully Trust, austin CORBETT and i didn't think
he Fully Trust. Chandler zavalla there's a reason why Once
kde may's got the starting, center job we didn't Really.
See corbett and there's there's a reason why it Took
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basically zavala Or cade may is getting hurt To see
corbet BACK because i Was wanting corba to be back
at at right guard Against, the falcons, but no He
kept zavala. Out There, but zavala, you know had a couple.
Of mistakes that Guy Wanted jake kerhan. Out, there yeah
and more than now you're getting your wish because he's.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Hurt AGAIN but i just. HATED that i hate that.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
For him IT'S just i think more of the distrust
is more of the. OFFENSIVE line i think they're also
trying to work for some of the problems they. Still
have and maybe one of the THINGS is i think
the receiving corps was not as deep as people FAULT
and i just think the main thing, really is you
need To Get jaalen coker. More involved you've got To
have xavierly get it as a. Reduced role the amount
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of stupid penalties that he has had this year when
it comes to flinching on false starts that takes you back,
five yards and then the amount of times he has
been called for legal touching has been one time.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Too many here's my here's my pushback on on you. A,
disagreement yeah he's trusting him. To throw how many of
these passes are within five ten yards at a lot?
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Of scrimmage how many of those have? BEEN checkedouts a lot?
Of them how many of those how?
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Many all part of it also has to do with
the Fact That bryce young's making the decisions for to
all where they're at. That's TRUE so i think it's
just one of those things Where.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
What i'm saying is the passing game we saw Against
the falcons was not the same pass game that we
Saw Against. San francisco, and again a lot of that
comes down, to coverage. Endgame plan give credit, to defense
to the Defense Of san Francisco And, robert sala because
they probably saw What the panthers Did do atlanta and
built in circuit breakers to try to make sure that
they didn't have.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
That happened but at the same point, IN time i.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Look at THAT and, i say my issue is it
just does not look like it works as Often as
i'd like. It to it's that it never looks smooth
other than some marked situationas, this season and and even
it's it's like it's it's moments winning. A game very
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rarely does a game look Like the. Atlanta game and
maybe that's just where they are.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
Right now would, you, Agree, Potentially YEAH but i also,
think too, you know it's just one of those THINGS
where i think you're also trying to work out the
kink still as a team in his, an organization and
you can't put it all in ONE do, i think.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Like they couldn't blow Out. The jets? Did that did
that not concern you a?
Speaker 3 (35:31):
Little bit but also know That the jets defense has
been getting better and better year has been.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Going on it's on.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
The road you struggled on, the road and then your
quarterback got heard midway through the, third quarter so that
also played a. Massive factor and you're also trying to
get into that's when they were still trying to do the.
Time share that was the first game at the time
share running back Feature between Rico. And cuba that didn't.
Work out cuba wasn't, Fully, healthy rico, you know couldn't
get into a. Full rhythm so there was a lot
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of other factors that were caked. Into want they only
won that game, by, seven.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Seven, four nine. Six ten it's time for smoking. The
headlines who? Is smoke where? Is smoke where, there's smoke.
There's fire.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Let's go let's say what you will about the quarterback
situation Here in carolina and whether or night You. Trust
price it's going a lot better here than it is Going.
In Minnesota as kevin o'conne announced TODAY that jj mccarfy
didn't clear concussion protocol an undrafted Rookie Quarterback, max brosmer
who was the quarterback For The Minnesota, golden gophers or
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to Pass Cup Golphers golphers Rode the boat is going
to be the starting quarterback For the vikings as they
take on their Former Quarterback sam darnold And The. Seattle
seahawks but even with, THE concussion jj McCarthy has been dreadful, This,
Year willie i'm.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Old enough to remember that there were people in the,
preseason saying why Couldn't the PANTHERS get? Jj McCarthy where are?
You people are you? Still there are? You alive is that?
Speaker 1 (37:02):
A thing i'm old enough tough over that that was.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
The thing there were, people, saying oh You should you're
donn't really want a GUY like jj McCarthy sre pal way? To?
Speaker 3 (37:13):
Go yeah and also do you want to make? Things
official the egg ball has officially. Gone Final ole miss
wins thirty eight Nineteen Over. Mississippi State the bulldogs will
not be Bowling And old miss now is essentially just
Waiting On lane. Kiffin's decision this could be a great
weekend if he decides, to go and if he decides
to Stay At ole miss they're a guarantee for the
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playoffs even if they lose IN the sec championship game
because of how good their.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Season's been and Another final Iowa.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Hammers nebraska according to what this is from Our Friend
brandon marcelo who covers college football or twenty four To
seven SPORTS And, CBS sports i should say they, asked
him if They asked laye if he decided whether he
was going To leave Ole miss, he, SAYS no. I
haven't i've got a lot of praying to do to
figure it. Out tomorrow, Hm, hm, hey well luckily you'll miss.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
This time no pine tar boxes or pine home boxes
are involved in, this one so you've got that going.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
For you and there's no tarmac involved. Here, either yes.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Speaking of the, college game we'll get into the holiday
hoops that we saw not just yesterday but throughout feast week.
As Well sports radio ninety SEVEN Wfn z.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
Tation when you can get. The Vibration.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
Sports radio ninety two SEVEN, wufn z will he p
In For kyle bailey smoke globally. Long sign we'll taking
you all the way up until six, o'clock tonight. Six
Thirty our hornets pre game bo join me half hour
after we're done here Today for Hornets. And bulls we'll
Talk With ron boone coming up here in less than
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fifteen minutes about what's going on With, the hornets who
sit at four and fourteen through the first eighteen of
the twenty twenty five twenty. Six campaign the noon kicks
are over in the college. Football world we've got clean
old fashioned hate ON the tv, right now, just Underway
scoreless Georgia And. Georgia Tech The yellow jackets pinned deep
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in their own territory here and they're opening drive of.
The Contest georgia tech victory definitely calls, some chaos not
just in the college, football world but also at least
keep things a little bit more interesting IN, the acc
where six teams could potentially play next Weekend in charlotte
For The, east championship although the most likely route Would
BE virginia smu if everything holds According.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
To hoyle but as, they say that's why they play.
The games.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
Smoke, LOVE yeah i do want to let You Know
georgia tex still likely not going to be playing Here
in charlotte, next weekend but likely likely likely but, have
it but there's, A chance but even if they if
they win, this game they need they Don't, like charlotte
they need help that it gives them an outside shot
though to make it sure as an at, large BIT
but i say ten and ten and two two losses
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they have aren't exactly, YOU know, i mean they're in.
The conference but, you know you do Know If georgia
tech wins, this game who Really Helps? Notre dame, of
course because the two Teams That georgia tech Lost To
notre dame.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
Beat, SOUNDLY yeah, I saw.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
I saw i saw a post where it Basically said
VIRGINIA and smu with the two most likely and and,
you know the the three two loss Teams and pittsburgh
is the one loss team all have basically. Long shots
but there's different machinations and high breakers that can come
into the play provided that everybody finishes with two or.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
More losses here's.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
THE thing I think semu is getting in because they're
playing a cal team that just fired her Head coach
wilcox last game of. The year, YOU know i don't
think you can did an interim coach bump for. That
one plus he's just been playing great ball down to.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Stretch.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
Here Uh. But virginia they're Playing a daddy. TOMORROW evening.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
I seen him. Getting upset, i'm sorry you're just saying
That because kyle's.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
Ninet HERE no, I said i said that the, college
somebody someone needs to take up For. The, Hokies well kyle's.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
Not, Here no i'm just NECESSARILY be I Think virginia
tech's Gonna. BEAT virginia i Can't trust virginia in. This
situation the.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
Person in the room who does Have a virginia, RESIDENCY
experience i always Leaned more HOKIES than i Did uh University.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
Of virginia SO.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
While i would not hate seeing that It's At, lane
stadium Right At Laine stadium North, in Charlotteville, that's KYLE like, I,
understand uh difficult but not on but. Not undoable the
thing that always used to sow whenever we used to
be what, you know driving Around. On saturday you know
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that the the actual name of that stadium has got
the longest name attached to it in. The world It's
The Carl smith Summer INSIDE. David A harrison Field At.
Scott stadium it's like very and they THE guy i
forget who Was the Playboy play man back in the
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day who used because he used to have those games
on the RADIO when i Lived In northern virginia and
the person would literally say it the whole thing every
time they came back, from BREAK and i was, just
like the thing that just came out with me is, just,
like man this school has its has its pinky finger
up all, the time don't they both at the, same
time including your? Pinky TOES and I just i do
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people who went to Both The virginia tech people knew how.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
To party put it, that way no way really.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
To, party, well, actually No the radford people knew how,
to party. Uh quickly on the, College Basketball michigan State
Over north carolina seventy four to fifty. Eight, yesterday uh
this is One Where michigan state's just, doing this. Daddy
Buddy so I'm not i'm not too disappointed. From It
From north, carolina's perspective.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
They look national title good.
Speaker 3 (43:15):
Right.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
Now yeah from, the field they don't only took, ten
threes but they were, doing it, you know inside the
paint all over. The place they were plus twelve inside. The,
Paint Uh north carolina had him in, fast breaks turnovers
are pretty much Even Just north carolina just didn't shoot.
It well four of twenty three from three is not
going to. Do IT and i think again it's it's
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these things happen in a game where you.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
Come up against. Some Competition michigan state was very.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
Good defense it's it's one of those things where, this
this this will help them come COME make cc.
Speaker 3 (43:46):
Schedule, time well that and you Didn't Have, seth TREMBLE
and i think missing a Guy Like, seth tremble just
HIS presence i think really hurt.
Speaker 1 (43:53):
Him in a game like That Against michigan state could
have made.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
IT closer i don't know if it turns into it,
all win but would have, made it would have made
it more of a. Competitive game And then duke wins
by Nine, over arkansas which, you know that's a game
that's a win, for them and again both on. Neutral
sites but that's One for duke where you look at
that and you say you're gonna circle that one come.
Tournament time if there's a delineation, on episode, you know if,
we're thinking, you know, two line, one line. That's ONE
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because I think arkansas is very very. Good team they're
better than what they were. Last year it seems like.
Speaker 3 (44:22):
THEY'RE continuing i know they've lost two, games already forget
who together, one was but it was like against a
really good team.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
As.
Speaker 3 (44:27):
Well WELL but i look At the arkansas TEAM and, i,
think yeah they're definitely more Like a calipery team compared
to what it was. Last year it's trying to see
who oh oh they're Losses To michigan state team by. Three, points,
yeah yeah that's a Really Good Michigan. Michigan State michigan
state has literally done this.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
To, everybody yeah and they're gonna have it and then
and they're gonna get their Shot at duke here, NEXT
week i believe. Next weekend so it's it's it's it's
something that has become part of of that part.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
Of, it yeah big big Week for.
Speaker 3 (44:59):
Duke now but because they've GOT THE Sec, acc challenge
they got to Go, against Florida but florida LOST to
tcu yesterday In the Battle. For atlantis and then they
Go Against Michigan state arkansas for a tough test too
because their next game Is against louisville AND THE Acc.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
Sec challenge and and here's, The thing arkansas is not
without close calls. AS well i actually turned on their
Game against winthrop JUST because i was suoner Interested. In winthrop,
gave them gave them a real scare we Could. Go
tuesday arkansas ended up pulling it out at the, end
there and even a game before that They, played Stamford
and stanford can put us scare. Into them so it's
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Not like arkansas hasn't played with fire a little bit
during the non. Conference SEASON but, i think, you know
we obviously know Playing against duke you get up for
that more than You're playing Sanford. And winthrop offense to
my friends down At, The, eagles uh but they.
Speaker 3 (45:48):
Don't know About how winfrop's history in basketball And. IN
arkansas i don't.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
Think.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
So uh they, they are they're. They're not they're not
friends Of Of pat kelsey's coaching, tree there because of
course he Had Some winthrop winthrop. Tize There cam boozer,
Looks again i'm not telling you anything that you don't
that you don't. Already know but there were some people
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who were sitting there and, you know maybe trying to
throw some darts at his early season four that looked
like the dude thirty five, and nine, three assists thirteen to,
eighteen shooting get to, the line get to the line.
Eleven times the only thing he really has to work
on right now is is free for. A, shooting yeah
see only part of his game that.
Speaker 3 (46:29):
AND plus i think three. Point shooting but THAT'S more
nba that he'll have to. Work on it's it's a
kind of a long. Taking shot it takes a little
while to, get GOING and i don't know if he'll
be able to do that as much in the pros
as compared. To college but, it's yeah he looks like
the real deal. Right now and Defensively that, DUKE team
i mean it's it might be better defensively than it was.
Speaker 2 (46:53):
Last year and that's saying and you, and you you
were telling me before the show you were the only
thing that has you. Somewhat Nervy Is scalem foster.
Speaker 1 (47:01):
As a starting.
Speaker 3 (47:02):
Point, guard yes because he'll make a lot of big
time shots and great decision making like he did. Last
night but then he'll also have a bonehead, or two
a couple of, boneheaded decisions and that was the four
reason why the game was. So close, Four, TURNOVERS yeah
i have four turnovers in like ten in the first twenty.
Five minutes they, neither team neither team held onto the ball,
very well twelve. Turnovers apiece that that was the only
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thing if you're, looking for if you're trying to throw
a Negative on, duke's performance is that They kept darkansas
in that game a little bit.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
Too much and that's something that. Can happen come big time,
tournament time come big time acc, schedule time and obviously
they'll get some, more opportunities like you said in the
non con to tune. Themselves up but. Nicely done and
How about Michigan. Over gonzaga michigan didre in that whole.
Entire tournament they were. ON unit i mean they were
on a. War path they are. A unit it's gonna, be,
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difficult right we'll, Come back we'll Stay, with hoops but
we'll go TO. The Nba the hornets have lost seven in.
A row how high is the panic Level In, rod
boone who covers the team For the Charlotte's Over next
sports forty nine TOW seven wfnz
Happy Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Still it is The Kyle Bailey Show Sports Radio ninety
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we at least have one half of the regular tandem
in here today and we hope to keep you entertaining
(00:33):
over the course of the next three hours as well
as into the night. With Hornets basketball against the Chicago Bulls.
Hornet's trying to break a seven game losing streach. We'll
get into a little bit later on today, of course,
Panthers and the Rams. This weekend, you've got all the
holiday hoops to recap as well, Duke winning UNC slipping
up against Michigan State. We've got college football on as well,
(00:56):
including the Egg Bowl, which Michigan still assuming yeah, this
would be stayed rather just score to pull within eleven
on Ole miss Lay watches on definitely Utah's beating Kansas
twenty four to fourteen. Iowa is kicking Nebraska's patuity at
the end of the day. Forty to sixteen is the
score there. We've got clean, old fashioned, hated three thirty
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We've got an NFL game also on as well, and
plenty to get into with you as well. Seven oh
four five seven nine six ten. I'm gonna kick the
phone lines open throughout the day because I feel like
if you listen on Black Friday and you want to
call in, deserve the right to have some time.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
I feel like that's okay. Text lines opens as well.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
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sitting here recording this or having been done in my basement.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
I am sitting here.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
I'm looking at smoke Ludwig, I see f a hat,
I see a red shirt. Confirm those things for me.
I can see you. You are not color blinds, so
not are How was your Thanksgiving?
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Was it good?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
It was good, very calm, very quiet, very nice to
be around the family, just really nice. And the weather
wasn't too bad. It wasn't as cold as it was
yesterday or today. But yeah, it's definitely very nice. And
it's pretty cool to stay at home during the holidays,
which is what we always do. I'm glad I don't
have to travel as much as some other people do
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during the holiday season.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
I tell you what, having my folks down here is
like the greatest thing in the world because they have
had years where they've either gone up for Thanksgiving to
see my sister. But now with the four of us
down here, it's usually okay, you can come down and
see us, or we'll see it Christmas. So what, your
sister's down here too, No, no, no, she's gonna she
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went to go see since here's the thing. Now, she's
gonna have in laws because she's getting married in May,
so she went to go see them this weekend, although
her actual future in law parents are in Asia right now.
In fact, the other day they were at the taj
Mahal all dang of all places. Flex well, they're I
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mean they're they're both Chinese by nature, so that's they've
made They made it a whole you know thing.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
They went to go see family, et cetera, and so on.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
But in normal situation, she would be they would be
in they'd be in Flushing, Queens, Ah, not as glamorous.
In your future in laws are also Mets fans.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
No, actually not actually Yankee fans. Oh well, it's it's
believe me, it's contentious, god blest, it's He's actually a
very good sport about it. He's one of these people
who will like he will, he will give the good
nature ribbing, but he won't like take it personally because
he knows he's sitting in an entire family that isn't
So it's, uh, it's fine, We're all right.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
He's a nice kid. He's a he's a he's a
lawyer too, so.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
He works for the Fed. So he's a nice dude. Yes, yeah,
he's a lawyer for the Fed Federal Reserve. That's what
he is there, it is she keed Bartol's listening. By
the way, You know if you saw that on the
text line, chakd what's up, Shackett? How long did you
make it before your first nap?
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Yesterday?
Speaker 3 (04:07):
I fought late in the fourth quarter of the Green
Bay game. I thought I was gonna I usually am
not a napper, but.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
I felt like on on Thanksgiving Day, Yeah, I got
close one time, but then I tried to go lay
down and I'm like, nope, ain't working.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
So I just stayed up, and I stayed up for
all entire day.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
I fell asleep in the middle of the first half
of the Chief Cowboy game and then woke up and
post Malone was on my TV and I was like,
what am I doing?
Speaker 1 (04:37):
What's happening?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Said says that post Malone or jelly Roll through like
my half hazed eyes, and I was like, Okay, that's
post Malone.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
That's way too skinny to be jelly Roll.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
It is it is now, it is at least, And
so my dad was like, that's post Malone, as he
says it the way that most people in their seventies
say post Malone without.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Having Malone having in a way that he's never seen.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
And also, so if you are a Thanks Even Day
parade fan, I'm I am now at the point where
the Macy's parade is actually geared towards people my age
because the music that was popular when I was in
middle school and high school was literally all I saw
on the floats yesterday because there was Shaggy Jewel was there.
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There were a couple of other like random bands too
as well. Little John was there. Yeah, although Little John
was also in Baltimore last night and people got angry
that NBC didn't showed Little John. After we had to
watch the seven Nation Army guy at Jack White.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Yeah, Jack White, That's what I'm saying. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
In Detroit, which was at halftime perform it was great.
It was great as the eminem part was the real
great part, let's be real, and we got to see
all the post malone, So.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
That's what that was. It was a good time.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Both games of the early slate I think were very great.
Bengals Ravens was a snooze fest.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
I wasn't watching that because I was fully into back
basketball by that point.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
I had the basketball for me was on both the
secondary TV, so I definitely took in UNC Michigan State,
obviously having to thumb it back a little bit after
I had fell fallen asleep during the first half of
the Chiefs, but I definitely definitely got myself caught up
on the DVR. Watched all of Duke in Arkansas. That
was a great game. Great game last night. Duke gets
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the victory. We'll get into that of course. And also
Lane Kiffin has rolled out Florida down to LSU or
staying put egg Bowl right now is presently on.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
We'll get a play that just probably ended it too. Yeah,
we ate your touchdown pass to get at the thirty
eight nineteen with about eight minutes left to go, So.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Then we will left after the game is over. We'm
sure we'll get the requisite hob nobbing and he hawing
from from lane Kiffen. I also found it interesting that
there was some gamesmanship for the game because of some
fans who came in and apparently stole the jersey of
the starting quarterback twice and three am sit her down
down to their third.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
The third quarterbacks Jersey Chambliss. But that has not stopped
Tambless at all. He has looked tremendous.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
He has not been stopped by anything, including Jersey pilfery
a lah Michael Jordan from the Orlando game that when
he was very very young in his career and he
had the way it up at twelve. Of course, we
have news on the Panthers who will miss a lot
of key contributors going into this game this weekend against
the Los Angeles Rams. In fact, Christian rose Boom will
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not play linebacker injury with the hip and ham string.
No Kid Mays, no Chandler Zavalla, no j C. Horn,
no Claude and Cheralis, and of course no Trevon Mayrigg,
who is suspended for the shot below the belt that
took place against Juwan Jennings. And I'll say it again.
You know, I think Matt Mack and Bone in the morning,
we're kind of like, is.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
That really gonna warn a suspension. I'm like, yes, it is.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
I think we all were kind of expecting it to
be a suspension, and honestly, I'm shocked there wasn't more
than what it was.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Well luckily for Carolina once Jamar Chase gets one game
for spitting. Yes, I think spitting in nutcracker shots are
kind of in the same scale. And you think about
it too in the NBA, I mean, d one of
the most infamous suspensions ever Amon Green, you know, for
multiple times kicking somebody in the nuts. He did that
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to Lebron in game four. It was four, Yeah, miss game,
that's what suspitted one game. So I think the president
has been set, not in the NFL, but just another sports.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Across sport below the belt shot.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
So yeah, nutcracker shots, one game suspension.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
This is a very very tough game for Carolina. I'm
not telling you anything. You don't have to know. Rams
are very very good team. They've proven so here over
the course in the last couple of weeks, and Carolina
has been inconsistent. Let's just call it what it is.
They've they've had very good moments to this point of
the season. Twelve games in they said, six and six,
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wins over Dallas, wins over Green Bay, and and obviously
taking care of business in the division with Atlanta tripping
up against teams like New Orleans and Buffalo, and again,
I know those two teams are at the opposite ende
of the spectrum, but it just gives you a cross
section of what has been a very inconsistent year, and
it has also caused a lot of us to kind
of recalibrate where we sit with Carolina. I'll get into
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how exhausting that is felt over the course of this program,
because so much of where I think people's perception of
this team is.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
It almost feels like it's very variable.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
We can feel incredible after a victory like we saw
over the Falcons, and yet come back six, you know, seven,
eight days later and you see the point Hunter game,
and we're seeing a lot of the things that frustrated us,
the inability to cover the boundary, the inability to get
a real symbiotic relationship going between Canalis and Bryce, and
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a lot of things that, to be brutally honest, are
probably growing pains, but are also still constant frustrations of
a team that we still feel like can turn the
corner and take the next step, just a matter of
whether or not you feel like this quarterback coach Combo
is going to be trying to make that happen.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
In terms of that, of course, when you think about the.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Issues that they are going to have to overcome on defense,
according to what Dave Knalis said in his press conference today,
his Fast Friday press conference, Chris Barnes is going to
start in place a Christian rose Boom. Looks like it'll
be Corbett at center, Jake Kerhan at right guard, and
in terms of the cornerback position, it'll be a combination
(10:37):
of Shaw Smith, Wade and a Caleb Evans trying to
fill in the blanks there with j. C. Horn And
obviously they will also bring in bring back Trevin Wallace
from the linebacker positions. So that's at least a good
spot for them to be in that they get at
least one of their starters back, even though they're going
to be down five or six contributors they did also
sign if you missed it over I late Wednesday, they
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signed Isaiah Simmons, about five years too late for a
lot of Panther fans after the.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Dry I had to be wrong, and I'm glad he's
here now, but thank god they didn't take him at seven.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
I was always a big Isaiah Simmons fan when he
was a Clemson. I always thought that was a chess
piece type guy and somebody who could be you know
that almost kind of like what may Rig is for
the Panthers now. And I think many people thought that
that was going to be something that is done for
the immediate interim, But according to what Dave Canalis said,
he is probably more likely looking at a special team's
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roll right off the bat. Maybe there is some role
for him beyond that, but just too too quickly to
get him really integrated and implemented into the defensive game plan.
I think unless it goes into something of an emergency
situation for Isaiah Simmons, they will trust some of the
other guys in the back there, like Leithan Ransom and
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Bonnie Richison as well to try and at least keep
things going. They were basically all the way right down
at some of their their threadbare guys. They also also
picked up off the wave of wire Robert Rochelle, which
prompted a very nice joke from Nick Carboni about the
fictional fictional movie involving Seinfeld Rochelle Rochelle, a strange a
(12:17):
girl's strange, eerotic journey from Alando Mintz, which again, it
only makes sense if you've seen Seinfeld, which again I
know a lot of you might maybe have not seven
oh four or fives of an nine six' Ten hornets
tonight seven straight, losses they are four and. Fourteen we're
gonna talk about it With Rod boon coming up at four.
O'clock but just, briefly, Now, smoke this has gotten to
(12:38):
a point WHERE i believe you said the word. CROSSROADS
i THINK i saw our Friend Notta edwards Say Ruba.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Khan there feels like.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
There could be a reckoning if this does not turn
itself around in the next couple of.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Games, yeah and tonight is the start of. That when
you're going to gainst A bulls team At, hall The
bulls team THAT i think is a winnable, game but
the losses are really starting to stack up. NOW i
Think i've lost like five or six in a, row
And wednesday night it felt like you guys they were,
sleepwalking especially in that second quarter against the next The
knicks could just put up any shot they want to
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and it would go. In it's just a problem that's
been persisting throughout the whole. Year defense hasn't gotten. BETTER i,
mean you look at the stats the first quarter three
point percentage for the opposing teams when they played The.
Hornets even when they're not a good three point shooting,
team the worst that they'll they'll get is about forty eight.
Percent that they'll shoot fifty percent from three to start
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a quarter against The. Hornets and then just the lack
of daisical effort all across the board on wednesdaye where
it felt like they were just trying to get to
The turkey dinner.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Tomorrow it just was.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Laughable and it just shows, THAT i don't, know if
it doesn't look like the culture is working based on
that game, yesterday if you just tuned in, THAT i
think there are guys that are working their butt off
that actually are really. GOOD i definitely think that's the. Case,
unfortunately one of them Was konkin. Nipple he had one
of his rare off. Nights that was that was that was.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Rough my wife we were at the game together On
wednesday night and she's, Like i've only Seen con play
in person twice and it was the two. Game it
was his first ever, game which was all, right but
again kind of getting his feet. Wet and then this
game where she's, like, oh my, goodness you, know and
we're going Again, saturday and she's, LIKE i hope to goodness,
gracious he doesn't have another off.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Night otherwise she's going.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
To have a complex about her because we both Like,
con we both like what he's done to this point
of the.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Season and, again one game does not define.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Him but when even he's not, hitting it was it
was very much evident that The hornet's going to have
a tough Night chicago nine in. Eight they're not again
WHAT i would call a world. Beater Nick futvic is still,
involved but he's off the, bench so it's a little bit.
Different at least he was off the bench last game they.
Played Iyo desumu is you, know hitting pretty well twenty
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eight points in the victory OF.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Us.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Yeah in of, course Bizellis Josh, giddy guys who are
again their, names But i'm not going to sit here
and say that they. Are they also have the capability
of losing to a team like The. PELICANS i believe
that Was James barego's first win since taking over for The.
Pelicans then, again The hornets can't take anyone for, granted
considering they've lost to both The pelicans and The.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Pacers they have and it's just one of those situations
where you can't win games like, that you're. Losing on
top of, Losing there's been guys that have been here
for a, while LIKE i don't Think LaMelo is going
to get traded during this, deadline but the chances of
him possibly getting traded in the FUTURE i think are
only rising if this season continues to go like, this
especially with the way that he's been, playing because his
shooting has been, awful.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Especially since coming.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Back and part of the problem is you get a
guy who's injury, problem but when he's not, injured it
feels like half the games he's spent trying to get
back into a, rhythm and then the hat or half
he's back into a. Rhythm but then you have to
worry about the other two, dropping which is him getting
hurt again with an, ankle and.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
It seems like there's been a pretty hard cap on
his minutes around twenty seven to twenty eight.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Minutes same For Brandon miller. Too, yeah and.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Even those have not necessarily born the kind of productivity
like you said that we're used to seeing from The
melow even when he is. Healthy and we'll Get Rod
boone's thoughts, on you, know about a week out from
that big trade rumor report slash non, report slash quash,
report whether or not any of that maybe still has
some staying power or hold some water even a week.
(16:21):
Later we'll get into those things with, him and also
whether or not the seat is hot Underneath Charles lee
as The hornets get ready for The bulls tonight seven
four five seven h nine six,' ten will he pee
and smoke here with you In For. Kyle bailey, of
course we've got a lot to get to, here today
not just what's going on presently across the world, to
sports but obviously getting you ready For the panthers And.
(16:41):
The rams is this just What the panthers will be
the rest of, The year and we'll just have to
kind of hold onto the. Roller coaster i'll inswer That
NEXT sport's RADIY one a TWO seven wfnz looks like it's,
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all over but the Crying and starkville is about three
and a half to go in the. Fourth quarter ole
miss has got a thirty eight. Nineteen lead they're actually
knocking down the doord to potentially score again here when
the final three. Twenty Plus although lane might just sit, ON.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
It i, don't know especially after what happened earlier in
this game with The breujjas h And lan kiff and
Calling Out mississippi state's ad. At halftime, MM hm i
wouldn't be shocked if he wants to run it up here.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
On him what if he runs like a trick play
or something.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Just to all the fisticuss will, be happening just to
throw it, out there and it'll be extra salt in
the Wound Form, mississippi state because remembered they started a
year five four to oz and they've had a lot
of close losses and they if they would have won,
this game it would Have been bowl eligibility. FOR them
i have a Much larger lane conversation baked into a
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latter part of, the show and we'll Get another panthers
here in just.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
A moment but.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
While we're on, the subject there is, a big big
part of me That wants lane to stay just because
of the FACT that i don't want these two schools
that have been basically thrust into THE limelight Lsu, And florida,
AND again I know florida basically got taken out of.
THE running i DON'T want Lsu and florida to be
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rewarded for holding themselves TO what i think are impossible
standards based on where they. Are PRESENTLY like I understand
florida's won a. NATIONAL championship I know lsu has won
a national championship.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
In there recent, dish history but.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Trying, to, say hey we deserve to be on the
Level that, albema is and firing People Like, brian KELLY
who i again would never really stand, up For And,
billion napier who again was the darling of the ball
when it came to him being Hired. BY florida i
know it wasn't Necessarily A glamor, glamor higher but of
the group of five guys that were available at, the
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time he was, the one and both those guys get
get get burked in the, same year and, it's, like
like do you understand how people perceive? You PRESENTLY like
i understand there are people who will Probably, venerate FLORIDA
venerate lsu to a. Certain level we're all laughing at
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you right now because of how bad, you Look And
penn state to a, lesser DEGREE because, i, think.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Well here's the Problem With.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
PENN state i think they might end up getting the
run to, The litter they might end up getting the
worst hand delt here because they got they got rid
of a coach who literally got them to a national
semi final ten, months ago and they don't have an
idea where, they're going and they're losing recruits that that said.
Coach got, SO again i want any of these schools
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who feel like they think they're better than they are
and they think that they're blank. DON'T stink I want
i want them to be punished for this because what,
happened yesterday like with With drink woods Staying at missoo and
some of these other guys who, are saying you, know
what it's probably a lot easier in this era of
college football to stay put than to try and get
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buy in, from donors they get buy in on an l,
nil collective, keep players. Get players the portal is this
staying is looking a heck of a lot better in
this era of. College, FOOTBALL heck I Mean clark lee
just signed a new Contract extension underbilt.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
And all did you also see the other big shoot
to drop Today. At vandy they just got to commit
flip quarterback five star that Was at georgia and that's
now Going. TO vandy a five star quarterback is Going,
to Vandy.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Not. Tennessee vandy who's taking? His?
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Tests though that's. My question well saying could be said
right Now, FOR diego, I can't I can't, I get,
but no it just shows you weren't a new era
of college football in some of the status. Quo spots,
you know The the Krim Did, la creme maybe Not
the Krim did. Lacrim anymore And, for florida you haven't
been To krimdon lacrim in fifteen. Sixteen years you're not
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recruiting kids that. ARE that i did Not Watch tim tebow.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
And and and not, for nothing how much of that
with the two head coaches associated with those.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Glory years that's. Very fair how how much of how
much of it is that and how lucky one of
them was one of?
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Your own because because pardon me for for turning this
into A bashed, florida segment but what have they done
outside Of the spurrier urban years that has?
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Impressed you, i'll wait? Thank?
Speaker 2 (21:47):
You uh AND, AN lsu I mean lsu probably has
a little bit more lore behind them because, you know
definitely because you because you had to say but and
you had less you had you know.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Again it or Drawn With, Joe Burrow Joe.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Barcus russell before he returned INTO an nfl bust one
hundred percent all, good things not saying anything necessarily bad,
About them but.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
You also HAVE what i would call.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Organizational dysfunction that just seems to, Follow YOU like i
know you saw the piece That ross ellinger wrote that
basically chronicled all the back dealing and the governor and
all the people who basically feel like they have their
hands on the football department and they probably.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Really shouldn't or don't really do so.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Anywhere else so, from that from that point, OF view
i say that all, To say lane probably looks at
that and says not, for me if in fact he
ends up Staying. All miss but at the end of
the day he could be arrogant enough, to say you,
KNOW what I think i can take on. That challenge
and we wait for the final of, this game and
also whether or not it ends up going by. THE
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wayside i told my wife he's still going to GO.
To lsu she thinks he's going. TO stay i wanted.
To stay i've gone back and forth about five or.
SIX times i think It, maybe florida but Didn't get
now it's down To.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
L show i Never thought florida had. A share i didn't.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Think the problem is the governor's Talking about will wanted
to spend money. Or, not well in a situation, like
this you basically have to give Him a godfader Offer With.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Jimmy sexton.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
So, seven, five, seven nine six ten is that can?
Touch me willie Pee on Twitter at willie, P style
and that game's got three minutes, to go And And
ole miss is still throwing, the football so they are
at least trying to potentially go in for a kill,
shot score not that they necessarily.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Need one also GOT the nfl game on.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
As Well the bears actually just scored took a six
nothing lead pending the extra point Over The. Philadelphia Eagles The,
chicago bears what many are calling the worst eight and
three team in all.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
The football but they're making.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
It work they're making, it work and it turned into
a pretty decent, game too when you think about the
way that that this is going for those two seven or,
four fives nine. TO. Six psl sucker is wanting to
get In on thanksgiving after day otherwise Known As.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Black friday what's? GOING On? Psl sucker how are?
Speaker 3 (24:10):
You?
Speaker 4 (24:10):
Pale well first, Of, ALL willie i will Say that
i'm thankful for this. Radio station, YOU know i love
radio the immediacy. Of it there's something intimate about it
that you.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Really don't get at any, other medium.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
And you guys do it. Exceptionally well. Thank YOU and
i would also say You and.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Smoke are an interesting pair.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
And a very good listen in that you are very.
CONTRASTING personalities i think we make, it work though you,
definitely do but it's a it's a. Fascinating CONTRAST and
i got two things.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
For you, YOU know i went To the.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
HORNETS game i want to get in About the hornets
before you Turn. The PANTHERS and i don't go to.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
A Lot of, hornets games hard to watch THEM.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
On tv did you like the, new arena by, the
way the new or at least the, RENOVATED arena i
should say it's.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
VERY bright i liked it quite. A.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Bit.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
YES uh i Was watching LaMelo very carefully anytime he
was on, the floor when he was going to.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
The bench AND what.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
I noticed about, him is and this is The reason
i'm asking, a question he doesn't jump on.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
His, jumpers no is?
Speaker 4 (25:22):
That new is?
Speaker 1 (25:24):
That kind that's that's, Not new that's. Not new he's
always done that because you know.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
That would be the motion that would hurt the most with.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
An ankling bit he's he's done that his.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
Entire career, Oh OKAY so i thought PERHAPS that i
thought perhaps that.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Was, Injury, rely no he just he's he's he's always
not had a lot OF uh i had a lot.
Of jump now there are times where he will like
try to go in the air and and and elevate
and that in. That way but when it comes to
the straight up uh set, Shot, jumper no he just
he's very very, little uh very little elevation.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
On that.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Very.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
Interesting uh and then my question is do you have
any information on what the total was the gout Raised.
ON wednesday i grant you don't.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
HAVE that i don't have.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
THAT yet i think what they typically like to do
and appreciate the. Call pal they like to let it
go through. The weekend they try to tabulate also all
the food donations and bake that into. The total we
should have a number, for you if not by the
time we go on The air sunday for countdown, to
kickoff at Least, by monday so we'll figure. That OUT
but i appreciate the, phone call and also appreciate all
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the people who came By on wednesday and donated for,
Street Turkeys, Second Harvest food Back of Metrolina and nourish
up to fantastic work in. Our community all the stuff,
stays here which is something that's very important to our.
Radio station and appreciate not just the, monetary donations but
anybody who stopped by and gave, frozen turkeys can. Good
etc and so on to Our annual thanksgiving food drive
(26:51):
effort To the panthers And.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
The rams.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
This weekend this is going to be something where it
will feel very much like the home version Of The Green,
bay game because you're playing a team who is, incredibly
hot and you're playing a team that needs to win
to keep pacing their.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Own division rams are nine and two ten.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Point favorites they've Got the seahawks to have to, Contend
with They've Got san francisco to have to. Contend with
this is NOT what i would consider, to be, you,
know something that's an enviable Position, for Carolina and i'm
not saying it's an. Impossible task. One thing also they're
saying too there could be some weather Involved, on sunday
so that's maybe bakes in a little bit, of otherwise
(27:40):
a little bit of. Other INTRIGUE because i think About
What rico daddell said after the Game, on MONDAY then
i think About How dave canalis kind of addressed It.
On WEDNESDAY because i think you're seeing Now where dave
still is trying to get the in game feel for
(28:03):
how these. Things work because there have been a couple
of times, THIS season i, would say even Very Recently
new Orleans And san francisco where the plan has just looked.
All Wrong From Jump street, Arizona two arizona was another
that's a very very. GOOD point i Wouldn't say jacksonville
because first game of, the year you really that's that's
(28:25):
that's a little.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Bit UNFAIR and i think we've kind of found Out
that jacksonville team's actually much.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
BETTER than i think we all thought they. Would be,
That's fine I'm not. I'm not i'm not going to
impute him for. That one but BUT what i, will
say those those three Market Examples, BUFFALO buffalo i. THROW
out i throw that one Out because buffalo is a,
great team backup quarterback who's hurt in, the game they
are coming off.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Of bye that. That one those.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Things happen but but those three, Other, Instances Arizona new
Orleans And, san francisco it Felt like davenalys did not
have the correct breakdown or game plan on how to
beat those.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Teams offensively And while arizona.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Was earlier in, the year and maybe you gave a
little bit, more grace you kind of know what this
football team is, right NOW and i think they got
a little spooked by how some of these teams have
stopped the run against them.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Here recently not every team is going to Do What new.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Orleans did not every team is going to Do what
atlanta did two weeks ago And make bryce.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
BEAT them.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
I think you still have to figure out whether or
not you can run the football against the team before
you completely. Junk in and here's, the thing it's not
like that game was ever in a situation where it
was so far out of reach that you had to immediately.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Throw It.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
That san francisco never led by more than eleven. Pool
points so pardon Me if i'm looking at this and
saying that they've jumped up on the they've junked the run.
Too quickly and because he got spooked by the last
couple of weeks, and said oh, oh well, hell no
we're going to run.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
It now we have to throw. It now and the metrics.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Showed You san francisco's a team that's vulnerable to giving
up a lot of run plays and explosive. Run plays
they are also a team that defensively has a trouble
starting to stop in. The pass to be very, very
fair it's something we talked About with WALKER and I on.
FRIDAY afternoon i said this could be a game once
Again for bryce where he can get himself some. Real
confidence but the most disappointing part about What happened monday
(30:44):
was not about necessarily the. Game plan it was about
being unable to take advantage of three turnovers that were handed,
to you particularly second in goal from, the ONE which
i know made. Her angry and you obviously are not
going to be able to overcome that in a game Against,
(31:05):
the rams regardless.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Of VENUE.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
So i guess my Thing is i'm not as worried
about The the bryce inefficiencies SMOKE as i am how
this quarterback and this head coach, mesh together because we
know it was an. Arranged MARRIAGE and i think we
(31:31):
saw a lot of people After The san francisco game
take market shots at, both gentlemen and there was, this
big big consternation about who's the bigger problem Is?
Speaker 1 (31:45):
It bryce Is?
Speaker 2 (31:46):
It Dave and i'm here to tell you that if
you had to boil it down to my opinion, OF
it i would say the problem is just they do.
Not mix it's become incredibly Evident that bryce does not trust,
excuse Me that dave does Not, trust bryce and that
(32:06):
there are Times when bryce gets a Play, From dave
hey probably checked out of. That Run if i'm being
one hundred, PERCENT honest i have No one god's. Honest
truth But when, Dave, said hey there was a run
check to that or that that that package of plays
that they ran on that second goal from the one
(32:28):
had to run baked.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Into it.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
That honestly tells me that you've got to distrust right
now between your quarterback and your.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Head coach, i'm sorry THAT'S where, i disagree because if
you've had that much of a distrust in, your quarterback
why are you throwing it?
Speaker 1 (32:41):
That much that's.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
MY thing i think what we Saw on monday was
more of a Distrust Of, dave canals not trust in
his interior, offensive Lineman Not. Damian LEWIS but i don't
think he Fully Trust, austin CORBETT and i didn't think
he Fully Trust. Chandler zavalla there's a reason why Once
kde may's got the starting, center job we didn't Really.
See corbett and there's there's a reason why it Took
(33:06):
basically zavala Or cade may is getting hurt To see
corbet BACK because i Was wanting corba to be back
at at right guard Against, the falcons, but no He
kept zavala. Out There, but zavala, you know had a couple.
Of mistakes that Guy Wanted jake kerhan. Out, there yeah
and more than now you're getting your wish because he's.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Hurt AGAIN but i just. HATED that i hate that.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
For him IT'S just i think more of the distrust
is more of the. OFFENSIVE line i think they're also
trying to work for some of the problems they. Still
have and maybe one of the THINGS is i think
the receiving corps was not as deep as people FAULT
and i just think the main thing, really is you
need To Get jaalen coker. More involved you've got To
have xavierly get it as a. Reduced role the amount
(33:44):
of stupid penalties that he has had this year when
it comes to flinching on false starts that takes you back,
five yards and then the amount of times he has
been called for legal touching has been one time.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Too many here's my here's my pushback on on you. A,
disagreement yeah he's trusting him. To throw how many of
these passes are within five ten yards at a lot?
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Of scrimmage how many of those have? BEEN checkedouts a lot?
Of them how many of those how?
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Many all part of it also has to do with
the Fact That bryce young's making the decisions for to
all where they're at. That's TRUE so i think it's
just one of those things Where.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
What i'm saying is the passing game we saw Against
the falcons was not the same pass game that we
Saw Against. San francisco, and again a lot of that
comes down, to coverage. Endgame plan give credit, to defense
to the Defense Of san Francisco And, robert sala because
they probably saw What the panthers Did do atlanta and
built in circuit breakers to try to make sure that
they didn't have.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
That happened but at the same point, IN time i.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Look at THAT and, i say my issue is it
just does not look like it works as Often as
i'd like. It to it's that it never looks smooth
other than some marked situationas, this season and and even
it's it's like it's it's moments winning. A game very
(35:07):
rarely does a game look Like the. Atlanta game and
maybe that's just where they are.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
Right now would, you, Agree, Potentially YEAH but i also,
think too, you know it's just one of those THINGS
where i think you're also trying to work out the
kink still as a team in his, an organization and
you can't put it all in ONE do, i think.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Like they couldn't blow Out. The jets? Did that did
that not concern you a?
Speaker 3 (35:31):
Little bit but also know That the jets defense has
been getting better and better year has been.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Going on it's on.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
The road you struggled on, the road and then your
quarterback got heard midway through the, third quarter so that
also played a. Massive factor and you're also trying to
get into that's when they were still trying to do the.
Time share that was the first game at the time
share running back Feature between Rico. And cuba that didn't.
Work out cuba wasn't, Fully, healthy rico, you know couldn't
get into a. Full rhythm so there was a lot
(35:57):
of other factors that were caked. Into want they only
won that game, by, seven.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Seven, four nine. Six ten it's time for smoking. The
headlines who? Is smoke where? Is smoke where, there's smoke.
There's fire.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Let's go let's say what you will about the quarterback
situation Here in carolina and whether or night You. Trust
price it's going a lot better here than it is Going.
In Minnesota as kevin o'conne announced TODAY that jj mccarfy
didn't clear concussion protocol an undrafted Rookie Quarterback, max brosmer
who was the quarterback For The Minnesota, golden gophers or
(36:32):
to Pass Cup Golphers golphers Rode the boat is going
to be the starting quarterback For the vikings as they
take on their Former Quarterback sam darnold And The. Seattle
seahawks but even with, THE concussion jj McCarthy has been dreadful, This,
Year willie i'm.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Old enough to remember that there were people in the,
preseason saying why Couldn't the PANTHERS get? Jj McCarthy where are?
You people are you? Still there are? You alive is that?
Speaker 1 (37:02):
A thing i'm old enough tough over that that was.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
The thing there were, people, saying oh You should you're
donn't really want a GUY like jj McCarthy sre pal way? To?
Speaker 3 (37:13):
Go yeah and also do you want to make? Things
official the egg ball has officially. Gone Final ole miss
wins thirty eight Nineteen Over. Mississippi State the bulldogs will
not be Bowling And old miss now is essentially just
Waiting On lane. Kiffin's decision this could be a great
weekend if he decides, to go and if he decides
to Stay At ole miss they're a guarantee for the
(37:35):
playoffs even if they lose IN the sec championship game
because of how good their.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Season's been and Another final Iowa.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Hammers nebraska according to what this is from Our Friend
brandon marcelo who covers college football or twenty four To
seven SPORTS And, CBS sports i should say they, asked
him if They asked laye if he decided whether he
was going To leave Ole miss, he, SAYS no. I
haven't i've got a lot of praying to do to
figure it. Out tomorrow, Hm, hm, hey well luckily you'll miss.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
This time no pine tar boxes or pine home boxes
are involved in, this one so you've got that going.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
For you and there's no tarmac involved. Here, either yes.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Speaking of the, college game we'll get into the holiday
hoops that we saw not just yesterday but throughout feast week.
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Speaker 1 (38:42):
Tation when you can get. The Vibration.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
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In For kyle bailey smoke globally. Long sign we'll taking
you all the way up until six, o'clock tonight. Six
Thirty our hornets pre game bo join me half hour
after we're done here Today for Hornets. And bulls we'll
Talk With ron boone coming up here in less than
(39:08):
fifteen minutes about what's going on With, the hornets who
sit at four and fourteen through the first eighteen of
the twenty twenty five twenty. Six campaign the noon kicks
are over in the college. Football world we've got clean
old fashioned hate ON the tv, right now, just Underway
scoreless Georgia And. Georgia Tech The yellow jackets pinned deep
(39:30):
in their own territory here and they're opening drive of.
The Contest georgia tech victory definitely calls, some chaos not
just in the college, football world but also at least
keep things a little bit more interesting IN, the acc
where six teams could potentially play next Weekend in charlotte
For The, east championship although the most likely route Would
BE virginia smu if everything holds According.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
To hoyle but as, they say that's why they play.
The games.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
Smoke, LOVE yeah i do want to let You Know
georgia tex still likely not going to be playing Here
in charlotte, next weekend but likely likely likely but, have
it but there's, A chance but even if they if
they win, this game they need they Don't, like charlotte
they need help that it gives them an outside shot
though to make it sure as an at, large BIT
but i say ten and ten and two two losses
(40:16):
they have aren't exactly, YOU know, i mean they're in.
The conference but, you know you do Know If georgia
tech wins, this game who Really Helps? Notre dame, of
course because the two Teams That georgia tech Lost To
notre dame.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
Beat, SOUNDLY yeah, I saw.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
I saw i saw a post where it Basically said
VIRGINIA and smu with the two most likely and and,
you know the the three two loss Teams and pittsburgh
is the one loss team all have basically. Long shots
but there's different machinations and high breakers that can come
into the play provided that everybody finishes with two or.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
More losses here's.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
THE thing I think semu is getting in because they're
playing a cal team that just fired her Head coach
wilcox last game of. The year, YOU know i don't
think you can did an interim coach bump for. That
one plus he's just been playing great ball down to.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Stretch.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
Here Uh. But virginia they're Playing a daddy. TOMORROW evening.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
I seen him. Getting upset, i'm sorry you're just saying
That because kyle's.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
Ninet HERE no, I said i said that the, college
somebody someone needs to take up For. The, Hokies well kyle's.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
Not, Here no i'm just NECESSARILY be I Think virginia
tech's Gonna. BEAT virginia i Can't trust virginia in. This
situation the.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
Person in the room who does Have a virginia, RESIDENCY
experience i always Leaned more HOKIES than i Did uh University.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
Of virginia SO.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
While i would not hate seeing that It's At, lane
stadium Right At Laine stadium North, in Charlotteville, that's KYLE like, I,
understand uh difficult but not on but. Not undoable the
thing that always used to sow whenever we used to
be what, you know driving Around. On saturday you know
(42:03):
that the the actual name of that stadium has got
the longest name attached to it in. The world It's
The Carl smith Summer INSIDE. David A harrison Field At.
Scott stadium it's like very and they THE guy i
forget who Was the Playboy play man back in the
(42:23):
day who used because he used to have those games
on the RADIO when i Lived In northern virginia and
the person would literally say it the whole thing every
time they came back, from BREAK and i was, just
like the thing that just came out with me is, just,
like man this school has its has its pinky finger
up all, the time don't they both at the, same
time including your? Pinky TOES and I just i do
(42:45):
people who went to Both The virginia tech people knew how.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
To party put it, that way no way really.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
To, party, well, actually No the radford people knew how,
to party. Uh quickly on the, College Basketball michigan State
Over north carolina seventy four to fifty. Eight, yesterday uh
this is One Where michigan state's just, doing this. Daddy
Buddy so I'm not i'm not too disappointed. From It
From north, carolina's perspective.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
They look national title good.
Speaker 3 (43:15):
Right.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
Now yeah from, the field they don't only took, ten
threes but they were, doing it, you know inside the
paint all over. The place they were plus twelve inside. The,
Paint Uh north carolina had him in, fast breaks turnovers
are pretty much Even Just north carolina just didn't shoot.
It well four of twenty three from three is not
going to. Do IT and i think again it's it's
(43:35):
these things happen in a game where you.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
Come up against. Some Competition michigan state was very.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
Good defense it's it's one of those things where, this
this this will help them come COME make cc.
Speaker 3 (43:46):
Schedule, time well that and you Didn't Have, seth TREMBLE
and i think missing a Guy Like, seth tremble just
HIS presence i think really hurt.
Speaker 1 (43:53):
Him in a game like That Against michigan state could
have made.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
IT closer i don't know if it turns into it,
all win but would have, made it would have made
it more of a. Competitive game And then duke wins
by Nine, over arkansas which, you know that's a game
that's a win, for them and again both on. Neutral
sites but that's One for duke where you look at
that and you say you're gonna circle that one come.
Tournament time if there's a delineation, on episode, you know if,
we're thinking, you know, two line, one line. That's ONE
(44:18):
because I think arkansas is very very. Good team they're
better than what they were. Last year it seems like.
Speaker 3 (44:22):
THEY'RE continuing i know they've lost two, games already forget
who together, one was but it was like against a
really good team.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
As.
Speaker 3 (44:27):
Well WELL but i look At the arkansas TEAM and, i,
think yeah they're definitely more Like a calipery team compared
to what it was. Last year it's trying to see
who oh oh they're Losses To michigan state team by. Three, points,
yeah yeah that's a Really Good Michigan. Michigan State michigan
state has literally done this.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
To, everybody yeah and they're gonna have it and then
and they're gonna get their Shot at duke here, NEXT
week i believe. Next weekend so it's it's it's it's
something that has become part of of that part.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
Of, it yeah big big Week for.
Speaker 3 (44:59):
Duke now but because they've GOT THE Sec, acc challenge
they got to Go, against Florida but florida LOST to
tcu yesterday In the Battle. For atlantis and then they
Go Against Michigan state arkansas for a tough test too
because their next game Is against louisville AND THE Acc.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
Sec challenge and and here's, The thing arkansas is not
without close calls. AS well i actually turned on their
Game against winthrop JUST because i was suoner Interested. In winthrop,
gave them gave them a real scare we Could. Go
tuesday arkansas ended up pulling it out at the, end
there and even a game before that They, played Stamford
and stanford can put us scare. Into them so it's
(45:35):
Not like arkansas hasn't played with fire a little bit
during the non. Conference SEASON but, i think, you know
we obviously know Playing against duke you get up for
that more than You're playing Sanford. And winthrop offense to
my friends down At, The, eagles uh but they.
Speaker 3 (45:48):
Don't know About how winfrop's history in basketball And. IN
arkansas i don't.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
Think.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
So uh they, they are they're. They're not they're not
friends Of Of pat kelsey's coaching, tree there because of
course he Had Some winthrop winthrop. Tize There cam boozer,
Looks again i'm not telling you anything that you don't
that you don't. Already know but there were some people
(46:12):
who were sitting there and, you know maybe trying to
throw some darts at his early season four that looked
like the dude thirty five, and nine, three assists thirteen to,
eighteen shooting get to, the line get to the line.
Eleven times the only thing he really has to work
on right now is is free for. A, shooting yeah
see only part of his game that.
Speaker 3 (46:29):
AND plus i think three. Point shooting but THAT'S more
nba that he'll have to. Work on it's it's a
kind of a long. Taking shot it takes a little
while to, get GOING and i don't know if he'll
be able to do that as much in the pros
as compared. To college but, it's yeah he looks like
the real deal. Right now and Defensively that, DUKE team
i mean it's it might be better defensively than it was.
Speaker 2 (46:53):
Last year and that's saying and you, and you you
were telling me before the show you were the only
thing that has you. Somewhat Nervy Is scalem foster.
Speaker 1 (47:01):
As a starting.
Speaker 3 (47:02):
Point, guard yes because he'll make a lot of big
time shots and great decision making like he did. Last
night but then he'll also have a bonehead, or two
a couple of, boneheaded decisions and that was the four
reason why the game was. So close, Four, TURNOVERS yeah
i have four turnovers in like ten in the first twenty.
Five minutes they, neither team neither team held onto the ball,
very well twelve. Turnovers apiece that that was the only
(47:25):
thing if you're, looking for if you're trying to throw
a Negative on, duke's performance is that They kept darkansas
in that game a little bit.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
Too much and that's something that. Can happen come big time,
tournament time come big time acc, schedule time and obviously
they'll get some, more opportunities like you said in the
non con to tune. Themselves up but. Nicely done and
How about Michigan. Over gonzaga michigan didre in that whole.
Entire tournament they were. ON unit i mean they were
on a. War path they are. A unit it's gonna, be,
(47:56):
difficult right we'll, Come back we'll Stay, with hoops but
we'll go TO. The Nba the hornets have lost seven in.
A row how high is the panic Level In, rod
boone who covers the team For the Charlotte's Over next
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