August 15, 2025 • 44 mins
Jaguars General Manager James Gladstone and SVP of Football Ops Tony Boselli join the program to give their thoughts before the Jaguars' Preseason Week 2 game against the New Orleans Saints on The Liam Coen Show, presented by Fresh from Florida.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to The Liam Cohen Show, presented by Fresh from Florida,
JP Shadwick and Jeff Logerman. Keep you informed and up
to date with the head coach of Jorge Jacksonville Jaguars.
The Liam Cohen Show starts right now.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
And welcome in.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
It is the Liam Cohen Show, presented by Fresh from
Florida from the Hyundai Studios at the Miller Electric Center.
We're on the Jaguars Radio Network, presented by the University
of Florida, number.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
One university in the US News and World Reports, number
one state for education. JP Shadrick, Jeff Logoman.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Liam Cohen will join us week one of the regular
season and now for the Is it the fourth consecutive show?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Third consecutive show?
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Fourth?
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Fourth? Two?
Speaker 5 (00:43):
More? I mean this one and one more? Miami? That's right,
and headed bys right now? I think we do we
agree to five or four?
Speaker 6 (00:50):
We agree to five, so we got one more.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Yeah, that's next week because we don't have a show
in two weeks during bye week.
Speaker 5 (00:56):
We'll be in Miami next week.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
That's right.
Speaker 7 (00:58):
You guys gonna be hanging at the pool and drinking
drinks with umbrellas.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yeah, kind of like what you have up there in
your office. Yeah, it might be nice.
Speaker 8 (01:07):
You and James up there sipping umbrella cocktail drinks while
the rest of the group's down on the field sweat
nice shady spot.
Speaker 7 (01:13):
Well, you know, we gotta keep nice and cool and
got to protect our skin from the sun.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
I see that, James Gladstone.
Speaker 7 (01:21):
You know it's actually the one place you can see
everything too. Is the benefit?
Speaker 2 (01:25):
You definitely have a Yeah, nice, pretty nice?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
All right, fellas scrimmage today, yep, coming out of it.
What's the feeling after the two hour or so workout today?
Speaker 4 (01:37):
James Stilling a spot where I think the identity of
this football team is showing itself, starting to take shape.
And I think with every one of these competitive settings,
we get a chance to continue to see that come
to life. And now we get a chance to to
step away from just doing it against ourselves yet again
and take the road, take the show on the road
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to New Orleans and do that in an entirely different setting. Right,
We're gonna be on turf for the first time, going
to be indoors, So all that stuff is, you know,
an opportunity, just like it was this past weekend, to
you know, practice a few of the things that we
want to sort of implement here in the early going
and see how it shows itself, see how guys work
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together or not, and then take steps forward from there.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (02:24):
I mean, I think in any situation, any practice, and
this was obviously heavy on the team side, very similar
to the scrimmage we had in the stadium a week ago.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
There's always good and bad.
Speaker 7 (02:35):
I mean, there's stuff that you really like you see
in the physicality, and I thought our defense showed up
at certain times and you could feel them seeing Dennis
Gardek out there and some of the new guys that
we've brought in and some of the guys who've been
here like really step up their game from the physical standpoint.
O Well, I thought the first drive by the offense,
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you know, very efficient operations look good. At the same time,
there's things that you got to clean up otherwise you're
gonna lose football games. And I think one of the
things that we have to clean up. The head coach
has been preaching it and has been holding the line
with everybody is the pre snap penalties and and kind
of the stuff that you can control before the ball
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is snapped. You know, listen there's gonna be penalties in
the game. People are gonna hold. You know, you never
held though I never helped, never, even when I got
called for it.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
You just had hands that a face like every other play.
Speaker 7 (03:30):
It was not called back then, so I used it
to my advantage. And so but those are things you
can control the metal side. And I think one of
the things is when you get in competitive environments and
you ramp it up, those things start to show up.
And so that's a concern and that's something that you
have to clean up because I think one of the
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things in the NFL you want to do is you
never want to lose the game or lose the down
before it even starts. And you know the old saying,
don't beat yourself. You we're gonna play seventeen games, and
we're gonna play good football teams. And we've said this
a couple of times. You know, we want to go
seventeen to zero, obviously, but you know, teams are gonna
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play better than you sometimes and they're gonna make one
more play and get you know, one more point on
the scoreboard. And that's part of competing in any situation.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
But as a player, as a coach.
Speaker 7 (04:23):
As an organization, what we don't want to do is
help the other guys win games where you lose, lose
it down, lose a game, throw away a series, whatever
the situation is because of mental errors, things that you
can control. And I think when you get tired, camp
gets long, it gets competitive, and those things start popping up,
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that's when you have to say, Okay, we got a
lot of work still do, and thankfully we got we've
still got time, plenty of time, and it's a it's
a process, and we just got to get back to
work tomorrow.
Speaker 8 (04:53):
Well and kind of alone life Starry James below those
lines of taking care of your business so that you
do not hurting yourself the self inflicted wounds. Go to
the defense against the Pittsburgh Steelers, a little lake getting
lined up and a lot of talk about getting the
cleats in the ground, and I thought that was another
example of how you can help yourself out. But what
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I loved about today's scrimmage is that as a coaching staff,
you admit where you messed up, and you recognize where
you messed up, and you go to correct it. And
today you've got simulation kind of going on of games
to help correct that whole process of communicating the call
to the defense and getting lined up worked on it
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all week. To me as an analyst, I sat there
and saw that and I said, that's what you got
to have.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Good job.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
Yeah, it's got to be addressed, right, it can't just
be something that you identify. It's actually got to be
followed up with some actionable items off of it, some
tangible items off of it. And so much of this window, right,
we're in the preseason window. We're collecting information. It's not
just about the performance, it's about the response, right, how
well do we collectively respond, how well the individuals respond,
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And that's such an important piece because it's never all
going to go well, and so when things go poorly,
are we going to be able to bend not break?
And those sorts of things are what you're working through
and looking to identify whether or not we have the
right group who can withstand those moments when it's not
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all perfect.
Speaker 8 (06:32):
And per question for you, James, you know when you
have players that come in and for me, as you know,
the analysts, talking head kind of person. You know, you
watch a lot of guys, you watch them on film
and you kind of have this preconceived notion about a
lot of guys, but then when you get them in
the building and you get them on the grass, sometimes
they show you maybe some other skills and other talents
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that they have. Are they're players that you're seeing other
abilities that maybe you didn't know that. Maybe you could
sit there and as a general manager go, you know
what my thinking was about this guy was for this position,
but you know, maybe he can help us here.
Speaker 6 (07:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Absolutely, I think that has shown itself certainly throughout the
course of the off season program. Every one of us
who was on the outside looking in last year and
was interviewing for these jobs that we now hold had
an idea of what we thought of the group collectively
side of ball individuals within position groups, and there have
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definitely been pleasant surprises or wow, I didn't see that
part of who that person is or this position group is.
And that's been a pleasant part of this all. And
it's the discovery phase. And like I said, we're still
discovering the identity of this football team. And you know,
I think as those parts all come together, it'll be
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become pretty vivid here early in the season for us.
Speaker 6 (07:56):
But at the same time, we got.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
To get tested, We got to be stressed and see
how how we face those stressful situations, because that's really
where the true colors show. And that's really what I'm
looking forward to, any of these competitive settings that we
can produce, knowing that ultimately it's not until Week one
versus Carolina that they actually count to the win loss column.
Speaker 6 (08:18):
We're going to try and take advantage.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Of them and make it so that any what might
be labeled as a failure doesn't actually act as a
failure but a lesson and things that we can apply
lessons moving forward.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
James Gladstone, Tony Bisselli with us. It is the Liam
Cohen Show, presented by Fresh from Florida. All Right, all
of Duval's wondering how the emotions were in the suite
game one.
Speaker 6 (08:43):
How well, I can tell you this.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
When that kick went through the uprights, Yeah, there's no
doubt it makes it.
Speaker 6 (08:50):
You know, folks got to be on notice. All we
got to do is get it to the fifty.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
You know.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
But I will say that's not a It's interesting when
you when you think about end of half, right, it's
it's a more suitable time to give that a go
than maybe first quarter or things like that.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Oh, you got to have the perfect circumstance.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
That's right, because if you miss that, they're in point play.
Speaker 6 (09:14):
That's right, that's right.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (09:16):
The other thing too, I think that and I brought
this up earlier in the week, is that everybody's celebrating
the seventy yard kick, but let's not forget what.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Happened on the situation to.
Speaker 8 (09:27):
That by thirty three and catching a little dump off
and making a great catch that was behind him and
then turning around having a guy on him. He made
that guy miss and then plowed four to hit for
a thirteen yard game, and then has the wherewithal to
get down on a third down place for a game
of four and still have a second left on the
clock to be able to make the kick. I mean, look,
I thought that was really impressive by baseial tooting in
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that game.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
You know what that's so that is with explicit intent.
There are segments throughout each week that our coaching staff
puts together that is specifically focused on situational masters and
obviously that that type of stuff is prepped in advanced
but extremely well executed in the moment. And that's what
you like to see, Right, Tony was talking about, Hey,
we got to clean up pre snap penalties, But there
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are plenty of instances where high level situational mastery has
shown itself and that stuff's got to be praised. But
we're looking for that to be the case on an
overwhelming consistent basis, right, And again, perfection is hard to
actually get to, but that's something we're seeking and and
so we'll always look to be better than we were.
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But that is a great moment and great layer to
identify as a part of that lead up to a
historic kick, but certainly a big part of.
Speaker 6 (10:46):
Historic preseason kick history.
Speaker 7 (10:52):
You can say whatever you want about it. With seventy
yards and I've never seen it before.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
I heard he's kicked one in practice, right.
Speaker 7 (10:59):
And the ota is I think it was seventy two
or seventy three, And it actually made it easier. I
thought when he hit it, I thought it was spinning
too much of the seventy yarder. I'm like, God, it's
gonna be a little short. And so I don't think
he hit that as clean as he can hit it.
Speaker 8 (11:15):
I mean, oh my god, my god, I SHO would
have hit a ninety I mean my point is, that's
how big a leg he has.
Speaker 7 (11:24):
But it's interesting, and this is the competitive spirit that
we want here. You look at Cam Little, amazing kick,
but there's things he can clean up like. So whether
it's the guys who do great things like Cam Little,
there's things that hey, he can clean up like. It
wasn't perfect, and so that's great. Hey, let's celebrate what
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we do well. We talked about the situational masters. That's
big time. That's taking exactly what our coaching staff is
teaching in the meeting room, practicing on the grass translating
to success on the field. Boy, it doesn't get better.
That gets you excited. At the same time, you never
want to get comfortable and say, okay, we got this. Okay,
look at how great that was. You got to have
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the same You have to have the same excitement of
correcting the mistakes, the same competitive spirit, the saying, hey,
this isn't good enough. And one of the things that
I really appreciate about our coaching staff, and I give
the players credit their approach on the field. I mean,
it wasn't perfect today, but those guys practice hard, they're physical,
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and so seeing them understand what is being asked of
them and then going on the grass and trying to
reproduce where we talk about the meetings, what has preached
the standard, and it's just an ongoing process that we
got to continue to attack day in and day out.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
And you know, and even when we kick it off
in the regular season, we're not done. I mean, it's
a long season.
Speaker 7 (12:51):
You know. You keep on keep on working, keep on
getting better, and we'll see where we end up at
the end.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
We'll come back in a moment. We'll get in the
trenches where Tony likes to.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
Well, let's go games one Jay.
Speaker 8 (13:02):
Well, before we do, though, I got a question for
him about this whole kicking operation.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Yeah, goes Eric. Hurry, there's a little tibbot. We'll do
it after it.
Speaker 7 (13:10):
Oh okay, yeah, tipping kicking operation. I'm an expert at
the kicking operation. I've studied it deeply.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
You're an expert at most things. Just ask you.
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can we get the couch for skinnered that'd be fun.
I don't have it, but yeah, just go sit there.
Just go sit there and say, hey, I was told
to sit here. See what they say.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
I know exactly what they say. That won't go so well.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
No, probably not. I got one more thing, and I
got a question about the whole kicking operation.
Speaker 8 (14:17):
I heard that that you guys have that system thing
or whatever it is the golf.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
What is it called?
Speaker 5 (14:24):
It's called track man, Okay, it kind of.
Speaker 8 (14:30):
Okay, so golf, you know the golf channel when you
watch ball, speed, angle.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Et cetera. That what is what is this thing that
you guys have when this and what is the inside
joke here that I'm missing?
Speaker 5 (14:45):
Tony has studied this.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
You are all in on this.
Speaker 7 (14:49):
Yes, we currently have a track manas track man track
man is in golf. They use it to check launch angle,
spin rate, so you can dial in the clubs to
lower the spin on the driver because that keeps it straighter,
the proper launch angle. So what kind of shaft you
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have at everything, so to maximize distance. And then each
club has a spin rate. So if you translate that
to the kicking game, a kicker, there's a launch angle
that you want to optimize based on distance and everything else.
Obviously the seventy yarder came out much lower because you're
trying to drive that ball compared to an extra point,
and then the spin rate of the ball impacts how
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far it will travel as well.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Spinning faster goes farther.
Speaker 7 (15:36):
I think actually spinning faster goes shorter. If I'm not mistake,
I don't know that part. Yeah, but I'm just saying
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
It's one of the other.
Speaker 8 (15:44):
It's one of the other James has for those on
radio right.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Now, and so.
Speaker 7 (15:52):
Last year cam Little used that to dial in some
certain things just his own how he used it, his
eactly what he was looking for not exactly sure, but.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
They did use it.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Okay, So James, would you care to fill in the blanks?
Speaker 5 (16:08):
He has no blanks to fill in well.
Speaker 6 (16:13):
Because we got so close just so.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
Yes, he's got something to say about just about it.
He's an expert, subject matter expert on just about everything,
pretty much heat for the first So he just before this,
he walked into my office, didn't say a word for
two and a half minutes, just started writing on the
board everything he would have said, and walked out.
Speaker 6 (16:35):
I'm like, holy cow.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
Then he said, I wish you'd do this more often.
Speaker 6 (16:42):
No words needed.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
James Gladstone with us. All right, let's go from the
kicking game, which is important, yeah, to the trenches, which
is also important. Offensive line today, there's guy's moving all
over the place. Anton Harrison leaves practice. I mean this
is still work progress up front, guys, So where do
you stand now going into preseason week two? A lot
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of guys flipping and flopping and playing both sides of
the line here.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
Yeah, that position group on the whole has been a
really positive piece to the puzzle. They're working well together
and the moving one guy to another spot is all
part of the plan. In that look, that is a
position that typically sees attrition more so than just about
any and we got to be prepared for what happens
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if and so if you don't end up having a
guy work in tandem with the one next to him,
it can become problematic. It just becomes a slippery slope
if that's not something you intentionally prepare for. And so
that was something that was put into practice today. Oddly enough,
Antim went down with a lower leg and he'll be fine.
Speaker 6 (17:49):
There's nothing significant there.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
But at the same time, we were able to adjust
in real time and get guys some valuable reps just
in case there's a scenario down the road where that
presents itself. But as we peek back to what unfolded
in PS one preseason one, I think one of the
highlights obviously the seventy yarder was great, but something that
really jumps out is Beasehall Tuton's touchdown and the fact
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that that wasn't just a single person. That was a
representation of what football should be and that's who we
want to be. You talk about I talk about the
identity of this football team continuing to be developed in
real time, and that was a view into what this
could be. The entire offensive line getting in on that,
the wide receivers doing their part. That was a phenomenal
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exposure into what could be. And just got to continue
to stack those moments. But a really high moment from
my vantished point was seeing that unfolding. Really the plays
that preceded it. You got offensive linemen taking guys into
the sideline on screens.
Speaker 6 (18:55):
Those areability. That's exactly right, that's exactly.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Who talk about moving guys around. He played four different
spots in that.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Preseason game and plays them all.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
Well, yeah, so that was a Those are really high
marks for sure, uh and certainly great to get guys
to be able to play in multiple spots and feel
comfortable enough to do it, because change that's a changing
of stance from right side to the left side. That
can that can screw you up a little bit. I
don't say you got to get either side for him.
I just I mean, that's I think pretty special.
Speaker 6 (19:25):
It is.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
It's not easy to do, uh, you know, but he
certainly is kind of making it look that way right
in some instances, and and to do it in game
is really the the cool part. That is not an
easy thing.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Former teammate James.
Speaker 6 (19:38):
You know what he called that.
Speaker 8 (19:39):
He called that amphibious. Yeah, he was trying to figure
the word.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
He's going to the water, amphibious in and out of
the water. But pick it up on the line.
Speaker 7 (19:50):
Like in James talked about how that it was always
the plan, not just coming into camp. I'll go all
the way back to our free agency process led by
James and his perspective and experiences at Los Angeles, and
he articulated so well something I felt as an offensive
lineman and probably couldn't articulate it at the time is
having the depth because it's the one position group really
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on the offense, and all positions are important. But if
your O line cannot be functional, the rest of the
operation just does not work. I mean, it really handcuffs
what you can do. And we go back to free agency.
One of the things that why we were so drawn
to Patrick McCarry was his versatility to play five different positions,
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and he had started and played significant snaps and you
fast forward you look into the draft. A guy like
Wyatt We felt like he was a guard but could
play both guard and tackle. Joana Manheim played all five positions,
start all five positions at USC and so having not
only depth, but the versatility and the ability for guys
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to move spots helps you on game game day number
one as you think about your active roster.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
And it came to life the first day of camp.
Speaker 7 (21:11):
Patrick McCarey was our right guard. I don't think very
many snaps at all during OTAs did Tuma, a Dooba
play guard. He was mainly at tackle. When carry gets hurt,
insert Tuma and you don't miss a beat. You actually
create a competitive situation. Now we sit two and a
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half three weeks into camp or Tuma and Patrick are
fighting for that starting right guard spot because both are
competing at a significant high.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
Like a good level, a level you feel comfortable with.
Speaker 7 (21:45):
So this plan, like as people see and I get
questions on the field to day, it's like, hey, are
you moving because of performance? This has been the plan.
I wouldn't just say since camp about how we viewed
the construction of this offensive line, and James did a
great job of leading us and really highlighting that as
we went into free agency and start looking at players
in the draft and how we wanted to approach this.
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So having depth there is important, but also having guys
that have the flexibility, the talent, the mental capacity to
play multiple positions, because now we're asking guys that we're stressing,
guys like a Chuma, like a Patrick McCarey, like a
Wyatt Millan who's a rookie we've seen Joe and to
play center, right guard, left guard, same practice, and to
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have the ability to do that and still operate at
a level that we feel like is trending in the
right direction and could become a starting level quality type
of player. So I think it's the approach we've kind
of believe in. It's been executed, and hopefully it continues
to produce the fruit that we would like to see well.
Speaker 8 (22:49):
And part of this whole process of where you're at
now is trying to figure out what that roster is
going to look like. You know, the numbers game, so
to speak, at each positions. Is that James, that you
and Liam and Tony have talked about, about, Hey, look
this position group, here's the number that we're looking at.
Or does does the actual talent level at each position
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group impact that number of what you're going to keep?
Speaker 4 (23:14):
Yeah, you have your traditional numbers that are typically on
the fifty three man roster. You give a little bit
of flexibility saying, hey, this is a position we want
to be deep at. This is a position we need
to be deep at. It's one that has natural attrition.
Or say hey, as an example, typically you carry ten
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defensive backs. How you split that up between corners and
safeties can vary, can be six and four, can be
five and five right, and dependent on the versatility of
one of the players or multiple players within those position
groups who can vacillate between the two right, So you
have a little flexibility with that. How would you label yesterday?
Speaker 7 (23:55):
I was going to say, no, we've never talked about
this and no conversations all. It's an extensive conversation. I
think it's intensifying the closer we get to the moment,
and it's a it's a conversation where you got to
be honest, you got to be straightforward and listen you
obviously the coaching is involved in this.
Speaker 5 (24:18):
I mean obviously the head coach.
Speaker 7 (24:19):
But you want perspective and it's all part of the process,
and it's a continuous evaluation. So as you go through camp,
I mean you have in your mind and as we
go through it, you start doing your roster rankings and
looking at it. But you have to have the flexibility
and be agile in your own mind not to get
rooted in what you see, especially early, and be okay
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of having the ability to change your mind because different
data comes in, you see different things. The great saying
that I don't want to quote the wrong coach who
said this, but I've heard multiple people with.
Speaker 6 (24:59):
One that.
Speaker 7 (25:04):
People are allowed to get better, like players are allowed
to get better, And I say, I think so often.
What happens if you're not careful is you get rooted
in a belief. You get rooted in I don't like
this player, and then that clouds how you view them
while all the time they're getting better. I catch myself
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doing it all the time.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
There's players that go the opposite way, too, And.
Speaker 7 (25:27):
There's players that you say, hey, maybe we drafted him here,
or are we paying him this much money, or I
really like them as an individual or whatever, and all
of a sudden, you find yourself giving them the benefit
of the doubt and maybe overvaluing. And if you're not
comfortable having really direct, honest conversations, then you're gonna get
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in trouble because all of us as humans have these
biases that we fall in love with certain things or
fall out of love, and sometimes it can be hard.
And one of the things I've appreciate about the way
we communicate in the group that we have is, I
don't I know James is unafraid to check me on
saying huh really, And I think James has learned.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
Tony's humble enough to allow me the luxury to do
that without getting them.
Speaker 7 (26:19):
But also there's like you have to otherwise you're gonna
make like really dumb decisions. And and what I appreciated
about the process so far, and again, we have done nothing.
We're not keeping score yet. We are just in the
process and so let's not get too excited and and
you know, break our arms patting ourselves on the back.
But my belief is if you continue to have those direct,
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honest conversations and not be rooted in what you think
you saw. It's one of the first things I told
James when we met, I said, listen, I will be direct.
I have strong convictions, like you guys know, I think
I know everything, but they are loosely held. And that's
something I've tried. I learned in business like I have
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strong convictions like this is what we're gonna do, but
I am unafraid to change my mind and be wrong
if new data comes in a different perspective, because I've
looked back on life and I've made really stupid decisions
when I get rooted in something that's just not true.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
See things as they are, not as you wish them
to be. Right, And so the reason why I asked Tony, hey,
how would you label yesterday? To go back to your
original question, it was a player's day off, so our
coaches had a little bit more bandwidth to begin some
of the more structured dialogue as a part of this. Right,
we're through one preseason game, we have two more to go,
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so we had a fairly extensive conversation yesterday about a
lot of those counts positionally, side of ball, etc. And
what some of the things to look for over the
course of these next two weeks need to be and
how we need to maybe take action off of it.
Speaker 6 (27:58):
Right in preparation for some of those Hey James talking.
Speaker 7 (28:00):
To I'm gonna play and I'm gonna play the role
now you yes, I am, so just tell them to
relax for a second. Commercials will come when they come.
This is what I used to Doe, JP Crazy and
everyone over in the other room. James talk a little
bit because I love James said this yesterday and he
said it to me before. It was a great perspective
because listen, this is the first time I've been in
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this type of role. James has actually been doing this
for the last nine years and different iterations in different
spots within the front office, and so it's been a
lot of fun the learning for me and understanding like, hey,
this is good stuff and let me absorb as much
as I can. But talk a little bit about the
different perspective of where we sit maybe in the clouds
(28:44):
coaches and the weeds, which is just the exact opposite
it comes to the draft.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
Yeah, it's something that you know in the anything in
the off season, especially with player acquisition, pro free agency,
the draft, I'm in the weeds, so to speak, and
to lead up to those decisions, I am deep in
the nuances, the finer details. Typically a coaching staff enters
the equation and they're flying at thirty thousand.
Speaker 6 (29:08):
Feet so to speak.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
They are coming in providing their perspective without a ton
of the intricate knowledge that may be underneath the surface,
and they provide their thoughts, and that can be really
helpful to a decision maker.
Speaker 6 (29:22):
I value that.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
I think that it's important to be able to zoom
out and change alter perspectives. Tony and I what he
was writing on my board before we walked in here
was off the heels of a podcast around decision making
and how maybe distancing from decisions can be a helpful
part of helpful exercise before actually making them. But this
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is a technique to do that, and I think it
flips when we get to this part of the process
and that our coaches are in the weeds with our players.
They know the intent behind every play, they know the techniques,
they know everything that goes in. They know the nuances
behind why an offensive alignment should take, what step right,
those types of things. But Tony myself, any scout is
(30:08):
actually zoomed out. Just like we're up on a perch.
We're watching, not all that different from somebody sitting in
a stance. Right, we don't know explicitly the details and
intent behind every single play call or everything every single
coaching point. So it is going to be a slightly
different perspective that can help somebody maybe think about it
(30:28):
a little bit differently. And so there's value that's right,
that's right, it's yin and yang, and so that was
one of the things that I definitely I highlighted a
little bit yesterday, but I just wanted to, I guess,
tap back into that knowing that it can be a
part of the equation just for any listeners, knowing that
those things can be useful. But no one right way
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is no one way is going to be the right
way all the time, right, So it does take a
little bit of humility from everybody to be able to
listen and respect that dialogue.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
You guys got time for one more little segment.
Speaker 5 (31:01):
We'll come back if it's really short, because we're over
our time right now.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
I mean, you're the ones gone through commercial breaks.
Speaker 5 (31:08):
I think that was the buzzer a couple of minutes.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Back in a moment one final thought, we'll get their
thoughts about what to expect on Sunday in the Superdome
in New Orleansist Liam Cohen Show on Jaguars Radio.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Welcome Back.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
The Liam Cohen Show, presented by Fresh from Florida continues
right now. J. P.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Shatrick Jeff Logovan, Toby Vasselli, James Gladstone, Final moments.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Welcome back, We're back, and we're back. James. What do
you want to see preseason week two?
Speaker 3 (31:44):
What's a successful night for the Jags in the Superdome
on Sunday or Day?
Speaker 4 (31:47):
Yeah, you know, obviously, I think safe to say that
a cleaner operation is something that is within the controllables
and should in fact show itself in preseason game two,
knowing that it was certainly a point of emphasis here
this week. Uh, and making sure that we execute, you know,
make sure when guys get the ops, they're able to
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come through, make the plays that they're supposed to and
and even more than that right be able to earn
there's their place on this roster, if not here, somewhere else.
But would like to see all that start to show
itself in a in a more consistent way, for sure.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Totally.
Speaker 7 (32:21):
Yeah, I would echo the clean operation. I'm just having
a clean operation from the sideline to the huddle, huddle,
line of scrimmage to snap. Just having a nice clean operation.
I mean that'd be that'd be a very positive I think,
continue the physical brand of football that are that we
are asking our players to play with. We've seen it
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in practice. I thought there was good physicality in that
Steelers game. Wasn't perfect, but they were physical. James highlighted
that the toot and play that was a physical brand
of football. So I want to continue to see that
progress and that really become part of that identity. And
then I think anytime in preseason you want to come
through injury. For you, obviously it's you know, it's a
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it's a physical game. You know, it's so you want
to try to get all your guys to the start line.
But at the same time, you got to practice. You
got to practice football to play football and to get
better at football. So it's that fine line of, hey,
we got to get the reps, we got to get
the time in, and I think everyone just, you know,
you're hoping that everyone gets through cleaned.
Speaker 5 (33:25):
On both sides.
Speaker 7 (33:26):
You know, at this time of year, you want all
the best players to be able to get to the
opening day and go play football. So, uh, those would
be kind of three things that I think are.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
I think beyond that though, too, as I just think
about it a little bit more. It's easy to go
to all right, here's some areas where we didn't meet
what we would have considered standards, right, But also I
would love to see it that in critical moments, critical situations,
we continue to show some positive science like a fourth
down conversion on drive one, Yeah, a fourth down stop
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from our defense, seventy yard.
Speaker 6 (34:00):
Field goal, right, that type of stuff.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
But when it matters most your best shows up. And
so that did present itself last week. Can we stack that?
Does it remain consistent? And so that's a positive that
you'd like to see continue to be a positive as
opposed to let's call it a negative. Get better, right,
So that's all the element that I.
Speaker 8 (34:23):
Would always want to see a significant jump from week
one to week two. I mean, that's always what you
want to see the most because that's usually when you
see big improvement too.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
No doubt, James Tony. We'll do it again in Miami
next week.
Speaker 7 (34:34):
Yeah, I'm the beach and to make sure, but don't
wonder what. I know you're gonna be hanging at the
pool all day drinking umbrella drinks, and I want to
make sure you show up professional dress, professional, you know,
not a couple adult beverages in Why would you say that, Well,
(34:55):
just rumor has it that you like to know what rumor?
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Has it? This shows over?
Speaker 5 (34:59):
How about has it you like the pool?
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Get out of the studio, go back to your office.
Tony Basel, James Gladstone and Pond's good for JPN.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Yeah that's true.
Speaker 6 (35:09):
Appreciate the invite.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Yeah, great, You're always welcome, James, Tony. It's the Liam
Cohen Show on the Jaguars Radio Network.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Welcome back.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
The Liam Cohen Show, presented by Fresh from Florida continues
right now.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
We're back on the Jaguars Radio Network, presented by the
University of Florida Number one university and the US News
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Jeff Logeman, Fourth Straight Show, James Gladstone and Tony Vasselli.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
And they just keep getting better and better. I think
there's always a little smirking going on. It's like inside jokes.
And so for the people that, uh.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
What where where can they watch it? To where they
get the video? To YouTube, YouTube and X it's a yes,
they're both websites.
Speaker 8 (35:59):
They got they got to get it there because it
is it is very entertaining to watch the looks that
these guys.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Have between the two of them. It is fun. It
is pretty fascinating to see them. They've there.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
I liked I loved his answer, but both their answers
on yeah, we're having conversations. They started really having them
yesterday about how you're going to break down the fifty
three I have the quick changes.
Speaker 8 (36:21):
How he was talking about being in the weeds versus
you know, thirty thousand feet, you know, from perspectives, and
you know how you know the scouts and the personnel
people are in the weeds, so to speak. And then
now that the practices and games are being played, the
coaches are the ones that are down the weeds, and
then his perspective is a little bit different. So yeah,
it's just it's cool. And the whole thing about the
(36:44):
preconceived notions I think is very interesting to me because
a lot of times you have them and some of
them are warranted, and some of them, you know, do
you trust them, you know, to be uh.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
To be repeated.
Speaker 8 (36:56):
So I think all that's very interesting when it comes
to making personnel decisions with a roster. Let's come back
in a moment, Well, you know what I wanted to
ask him that I didn't ask him, But yeah, was
the numbers. Give us a breakdown on the numbers of
each position, because you know, James threw out a couple
numbers that are fairly standard.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
The ten number for defensive back.
Speaker 8 (37:19):
Sometimes people consider that the same for offensive linemen, but
that's always evolving based on the talent you have.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
We'll get into the offensive performance in the scrimmage today
when we come back. It's the Liam Cohen Show on
Jaguars Radio.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Welcome Back.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
The Liam Cohen Show, presented by Fresh from Florida continues.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
Right now Jaguars football is officially back and be there
as number two overall draft pick Travis Hunter, the quarterback
Trevor Lawrence, and the entire Jaguars squad take the field
for the first time in twenty twenty five on the
Jags taking on the Panthers September seventh. Go to Jaguars
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(38:04):
Liam Cohen Show continues. We'll have the head coach in
week one of going into that Panthers game. Right after
the turn of the calendar into September our thanks to
James Gladstone Tony Bacelli earlier offensive performance. Jaguars had a
scrimmage today on the practice field. They set up benches
on both sides. They had the coaches off to the sideline,
some in the balcony upstairs, and basically went through an
(38:27):
entire football game today.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Yeah, I thought it was a great exercise.
Speaker 8 (38:31):
You know, the when you got a new coaching staff
and new coordinators, it's a it's a great exercise to
the mechanics, I think is also you know, when we
had Mark Duffner on earlier, the former Jaguars linebackers coach,
we talked about the mechanics of lining up to get
ready to play. Well, there's also mechanics that exist for
coaches to make a play call, you know, getting the
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personnel grouping from somebody that's high in the sky in
the booth right so that he can give you a
personnel grouping, so you, as a defensive coordinator play caller
can get a personnel grouping, observe the down and distance,
and then put your defense in the best position possible.
So that process needs to be better for the Jaguars,
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and then also the assimilation of the information on the
field needs to be better from the player standpoint so
that the performance can be better. You have a better
chance of success when you get lined up cleats in
the ground, so to speak.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
It's in one of those weeks finding the cleats in
the ground, the alignments and assignments and.
Speaker 8 (39:33):
Such, and so that's what I loved about today. It
was a great opportunity to practice some more of those mechanics,
the things that you struggled with in preseason game number
one against Pittsburgh, and Pittsburgh ran kind of a tempo offense,
but it was sometimes a little different in that they
would huddle, but then break the huddle and then hurry
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to the line, So it was sometimes it was truly
no huddle. Sometimes it was just breaking the huddle and
getting to the line fast. And so it's kind of
two different situations, but you got to be able to
deal with all of them.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
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Speaker 2 (40:34):
I had to pick one game out of those three,
right Jets?
Speaker 3 (40:39):
Yes, yes, yeah, that'd be a tough one. That bibblehead
look great on the desk though. Oh it would look
like right here in front of us. That would be
very good.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Wonder if we have sources. How many guys got bibbleheads?
Do you have a bibblehead? I do not of me? Yeah, no,
do you know? No, I've never had a bibblehead. No,
I have not.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
It'd be pretty cool to have, like JP bobble You
know who does have one? Joe fortune Ido has one?
Does he from his previous employer?
Speaker 2 (41:07):
I think they stopped production of that like thirty years ago.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
It's one of the original bibbleheads, like from the sixties. Yeah,
it is a pretty cool bibblehead. No, uh yeah, those
things are awesome. Man, who's the.
Speaker 8 (41:20):
Most famous bobblehead of all time? What do you mean,
who's the first bottlehead?
Speaker 3 (41:26):
Well, they had like the old ones that had like
just the general guy with NFL stuff on him.
Speaker 8 (41:32):
Yeah, like the I think that's that would be an
intra'd be a good trivia question. Who was the first
bobblehead of all time? Maybe we'll look that up.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
I don't know. Anyway, I'm looking forward to Sunday.
Speaker 3 (41:43):
And how weird is that one o'clock Sunday Sunday one
o'clock prec again here in the Dome.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
It doesn't matter, it's not gonna be.
Speaker 8 (41:49):
No, I know, but I don't think I've ever had
a Sunday afternoon one o'clock kick, which actually is twelfth
Central one o'clock in Jacksonville.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
I've never.
Speaker 8 (41:57):
I don't know if I've ever, and I probably have
and I just have forgotten. But it's just very rare,
if anything, you might have a Saturday afternoon You.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
Know what that means for us here in Jacksonville studio.
Speaker 8 (42:07):
Dinner plan Sunday night. You just get home in time
for dinner. I mean, it's fantastic. I like it because
New Orleans is not that long on a flight, no,
for you know, when you fly direct on the team charter,
which we won't be on the team charter.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
Oh really, no, we won't.
Speaker 8 (42:23):
We won't dig into the But anyway, looking forward to
the game, looking forward to New Orleans. And I will
tell you this, I like New Orleans because it's got
really good food.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
And I can't wait. Because I was telling you earlier.
Speaker 8 (42:36):
I was in New Orleans years ago and I happened
to find this place, Gus's Fried Chicken, and I'm going back.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
Oh, it's gonna be one of those. It was so good.
I ate two meals. It's gonna be one of those Saturday.
I'm not gonna have two meals this time, but I'm
gonna have a good one.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
We're back in a moment final thoughts ahead of the
Jaguars Saints Matt Jeffers Liam Cohen Show on Jaguars Radio.
Welcome back to Liam Cohen Show, presented by Fresh from
Florida Rolls Along. I thanks to James Gladstone and Tony
Boselli joining us in the first gosh forty minutes of.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
The show tonight.
Speaker 3 (43:11):
We'll do it again next week down in Fort Lauderdale
from the Team Hotel ahead of the Dolphins Jaguars matchup
at preseason Week three, and then we'll have Liam Cohen
Week one of the regular season logs. What are you
looking for in the game Sunday under the roof in
the Superdome.
Speaker 8 (43:26):
Well, I think first I want to see the evolution
of Travis Hunter in playtime.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
You know, could he actually be a true.
Speaker 8 (43:32):
Two way player this week where instead of you know,
there was last week was a focus on one and
then the other? Could he do both at the same time.
Really going to watch the running back rotation, the positions
that are played by the offensive lineman and then linebacker.
Those things I think are definitely bear worth watching live.
We'll throw one other thing out there, the performance of
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the safeties, because that is like one of those positions
that is unsettled yet and the performance is going to
have a lot to do with who gets the nod
on starting opening Day.
Speaker 3 (44:05):
We'll find out Sunday, one o'clock eastern kickoff time for
the Jags and the Saints at the Superdome in New Orleans.
Jeff Loghman J. P. Shattuck are thanks to James Gladstone,
Tony Rosselli, Joe Fortunado, David job, Brent Reaver, Tyler Stid
of our entire crew. This is the Liam Cohen Show
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The Liam Cohen Show starts right now.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
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Speaker 3 (00:16):
It is the Liam Cohen Show, presented by Fresh from
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We're on the Jaguars Radio Network, presented by the University
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
One university in the US News and World Reports, number
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Speaker 3 (00:33):
Liam Cohen will join us week one of the regular
season and now for the Is it the fourth consecutive show?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Third consecutive show?
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Fourth?
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Fourth? Two?
Speaker 5 (00:43):
More? I mean this one and one more? Miami? That's right,
and headed bys right now? I think we do we
agree to five or four?
Speaker 6 (00:50):
We agree to five, so we got one more.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Yeah, that's next week because we don't have a show
in two weeks during bye week.
Speaker 5 (00:56):
We'll be in Miami next week.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
That's right.
Speaker 7 (00:58):
You guys gonna be hanging at the pool and drinking
drinks with umbrellas.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yeah, kind of like what you have up there in
your office. Yeah, it might be nice.
Speaker 8 (01:07):
You and James up there sipping umbrella cocktail drinks while
the rest of the group's down on the field sweat
nice shady spot.
Speaker 7 (01:13):
Well, you know, we gotta keep nice and cool and
got to protect our skin from the sun.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
I see that, James Gladstone.
Speaker 7 (01:21):
You know it's actually the one place you can see
everything too. Is the benefit?
Speaker 2 (01:25):
You definitely have a Yeah, nice, pretty nice?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
All right, fellas scrimmage today, yep, coming out of it.
What's the feeling after the two hour or so workout today?
Speaker 4 (01:37):
James Stilling a spot where I think the identity of
this football team is showing itself, starting to take shape.
And I think with every one of these competitive settings,
we get a chance to continue to see that come
to life. And now we get a chance to to
step away from just doing it against ourselves yet again
and take the road, take the show on the road
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to New Orleans and do that in an entirely different setting. Right,
We're gonna be on turf for the first time, going
to be indoors, So all that stuff is, you know,
an opportunity, just like it was this past weekend, to
you know, practice a few of the things that we
want to sort of implement here in the early going
and see how it shows itself, see how guys work
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together or not, and then take steps forward from there.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (02:24):
I mean, I think in any situation, any practice, and
this was obviously heavy on the team side, very similar
to the scrimmage we had in the stadium a week ago.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
There's always good and bad.
Speaker 7 (02:35):
I mean, there's stuff that you really like you see
in the physicality, and I thought our defense showed up
at certain times and you could feel them seeing Dennis
Gardek out there and some of the new guys that
we've brought in and some of the guys who've been
here like really step up their game from the physical standpoint.
O Well, I thought the first drive by the offense,
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you know, very efficient operations look good. At the same time,
there's things that you got to clean up otherwise you're
gonna lose football games. And I think one of the
things that we have to clean up. The head coach
has been preaching it and has been holding the line
with everybody is the pre snap penalties and and kind
of the stuff that you can control before the ball
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is snapped. You know, listen there's gonna be penalties in
the game. People are gonna hold. You know, you never
held though I never helped, never, even when I got
called for it.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
You just had hands that a face like every other play.
Speaker 7 (03:30):
It was not called back then, so I used it
to my advantage. And so but those are things you
can control the metal side. And I think one of
the things is when you get in competitive environments and
you ramp it up, those things start to show up.
And so that's a concern and that's something that you
have to clean up because I think one of the
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things in the NFL you want to do is you
never want to lose the game or lose the down
before it even starts. And you know the old saying,
don't beat yourself. You we're gonna play seventeen games, and
we're gonna play good football teams. And we've said this
a couple of times. You know, we want to go
seventeen to zero, obviously, but you know, teams are gonna
(04:12):
play better than you sometimes and they're gonna make one
more play and get you know, one more point on
the scoreboard. And that's part of competing in any situation.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
But as a player, as a coach.
Speaker 7 (04:23):
As an organization, what we don't want to do is
help the other guys win games where you lose, lose
it down, lose a game, throw away a series, whatever
the situation is because of mental errors, things that you
can control. And I think when you get tired, camp
gets long, it gets competitive, and those things start popping up,
(04:45):
that's when you have to say, Okay, we got a
lot of work still do, and thankfully we got we've
still got time, plenty of time, and it's a it's
a process, and we just got to get back to
work tomorrow.
Speaker 8 (04:53):
Well and kind of alone life Starry James below those
lines of taking care of your business so that you
do not hurting yourself the self inflicted wounds. Go to
the defense against the Pittsburgh Steelers, a little lake getting
lined up and a lot of talk about getting the
cleats in the ground, and I thought that was another
example of how you can help yourself out. But what
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I loved about today's scrimmage is that as a coaching staff,
you admit where you messed up, and you recognize where
you messed up, and you go to correct it. And
today you've got simulation kind of going on of games
to help correct that whole process of communicating the call
to the defense and getting lined up worked on it
(05:36):
all week. To me as an analyst, I sat there
and saw that and I said, that's what you got
to have.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Good job.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
Yeah, it's got to be addressed, right, it can't just
be something that you identify. It's actually got to be
followed up with some actionable items off of it, some
tangible items off of it. And so much of this window, right,
we're in the preseason window. We're collecting information. It's not
just about the performance, it's about the response, right, how
well do we collectively respond, how well the individuals respond,
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And that's such an important piece because it's never all
going to go well, and so when things go poorly,
are we going to be able to bend not break?
And those sorts of things are what you're working through
and looking to identify whether or not we have the
right group who can withstand those moments when it's not
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all perfect.
Speaker 8 (06:32):
And per question for you, James, you know when you
have players that come in and for me, as you know,
the analysts, talking head kind of person. You know, you
watch a lot of guys, you watch them on film
and you kind of have this preconceived notion about a
lot of guys, but then when you get them in
the building and you get them on the grass, sometimes
they show you maybe some other skills and other talents
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that they have. Are they're players that you're seeing other
abilities that maybe you didn't know that. Maybe you could
sit there and as a general manager go, you know
what my thinking was about this guy was for this position,
but you know, maybe he can help us here.
Speaker 6 (07:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Absolutely, I think that has shown itself certainly throughout the
course of the off season program. Every one of us
who was on the outside looking in last year and
was interviewing for these jobs that we now hold had
an idea of what we thought of the group collectively
side of ball individuals within position groups, and there have
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definitely been pleasant surprises or wow, I didn't see that
part of who that person is or this position group is.
And that's been a pleasant part of this all. And
it's the discovery phase. And like I said, we're still
discovering the identity of this football team. And you know,
I think as those parts all come together, it'll be
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become pretty vivid here early in the season for us.
Speaker 6 (07:56):
But at the same time, we got.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
To get tested, We got to be stressed and see
how how we face those stressful situations, because that's really
where the true colors show. And that's really what I'm
looking forward to, any of these competitive settings that we
can produce, knowing that ultimately it's not until Week one
versus Carolina that they actually count to the win loss column.
Speaker 6 (08:18):
We're going to try and take advantage.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Of them and make it so that any what might
be labeled as a failure doesn't actually act as a
failure but a lesson and things that we can apply
lessons moving forward.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
James Gladstone, Tony Bisselli with us. It is the Liam
Cohen Show, presented by Fresh from Florida. All Right, all
of Duval's wondering how the emotions were in the suite
game one.
Speaker 6 (08:43):
How well, I can tell you this.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
When that kick went through the uprights, Yeah, there's no
doubt it makes it.
Speaker 6 (08:50):
You know, folks got to be on notice. All we
got to do is get it to the fifty.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
You know.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
But I will say that's not a It's interesting when
you when you think about end of half, right, it's
it's a more suitable time to give that a go
than maybe first quarter or things like that.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Oh, you got to have the perfect circumstance.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
That's right, because if you miss that, they're in point play.
Speaker 6 (09:14):
That's right, that's right.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (09:16):
The other thing too, I think that and I brought
this up earlier in the week, is that everybody's celebrating
the seventy yard kick, but let's not forget what.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Happened on the situation to.
Speaker 8 (09:27):
That by thirty three and catching a little dump off
and making a great catch that was behind him and
then turning around having a guy on him. He made
that guy miss and then plowed four to hit for
a thirteen yard game, and then has the wherewithal to
get down on a third down place for a game
of four and still have a second left on the
clock to be able to make the kick. I mean, look,
I thought that was really impressive by baseial tooting in
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that game.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
You know what that's so that is with explicit intent.
There are segments throughout each week that our coaching staff
puts together that is specifically focused on situational masters and
obviously that that type of stuff is prepped in advanced
but extremely well executed in the moment. And that's what
you like to see, Right, Tony was talking about, Hey,
we got to clean up pre snap penalties, But there
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are plenty of instances where high level situational mastery has
shown itself and that stuff's got to be praised. But
we're looking for that to be the case on an
overwhelming consistent basis, right, And again, perfection is hard to
actually get to, but that's something we're seeking and and
so we'll always look to be better than we were.
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But that is a great moment and great layer to
identify as a part of that lead up to a
historic kick, but certainly a big part of.
Speaker 6 (10:46):
Historic preseason kick history.
Speaker 7 (10:52):
You can say whatever you want about it. With seventy
yards and I've never seen it before.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
I heard he's kicked one in practice, right.
Speaker 7 (10:59):
And the ota is I think it was seventy two
or seventy three, And it actually made it easier. I
thought when he hit it, I thought it was spinning
too much of the seventy yarder. I'm like, God, it's
gonna be a little short. And so I don't think
he hit that as clean as he can hit it.
Speaker 8 (11:15):
I mean, oh my god, my god, I SHO would
have hit a ninety I mean my point is, that's
how big a leg he has.
Speaker 7 (11:24):
But it's interesting, and this is the competitive spirit that
we want here. You look at Cam Little, amazing kick,
but there's things he can clean up like. So whether
it's the guys who do great things like Cam Little,
there's things that hey, he can clean up like. It
wasn't perfect, and so that's great. Hey, let's celebrate what
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we do well. We talked about the situational masters. That's
big time. That's taking exactly what our coaching staff is
teaching in the meeting room, practicing on the grass translating
to success on the field. Boy, it doesn't get better.
That gets you excited. At the same time, you never
want to get comfortable and say, okay, we got this. Okay,
look at how great that was. You got to have
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the same You have to have the same excitement of
correcting the mistakes, the same competitive spirit, the saying, hey,
this isn't good enough. And one of the things that
I really appreciate about our coaching staff, and I give
the players credit their approach on the field. I mean,
it wasn't perfect today, but those guys practice hard, they're physical,
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and so seeing them understand what is being asked of
them and then going on the grass and trying to
reproduce where we talk about the meetings, what has preached
the standard, and it's just an ongoing process that we
got to continue to attack day in and day out.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
And you know, and even when we kick it off
in the regular season, we're not done. I mean, it's
a long season.
Speaker 7 (12:51):
You know. You keep on keep on working, keep on
getting better, and we'll see where we end up at
the end.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
We'll come back in a moment. We'll get in the
trenches where Tony likes to.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
Well, let's go games one Jay.
Speaker 8 (13:02):
Well, before we do, though, I got a question for
him about this whole kicking operation.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Yeah, goes Eric. Hurry, there's a little tibbot. We'll do
it after it.
Speaker 7 (13:10):
Oh okay, yeah, tipping kicking operation. I'm an expert at
the kicking operation. I've studied it deeply.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
You're an expert at most things. Just ask you.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
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Speaker 2 (13:29):
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Speaker 1 (13:30):
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Speaker 3 (13:35):
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can we get the couch for skinnered that'd be fun.
I don't have it, but yeah, just go sit there.
Just go sit there and say, hey, I was told
to sit here. See what they say.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
I know exactly what they say. That won't go so well.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
No, probably not. I got one more thing, and I
got a question about the whole kicking operation.
Speaker 8 (14:17):
I heard that that you guys have that system thing
or whatever it is the golf.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
What is it called?
Speaker 5 (14:24):
It's called track man, Okay, it kind of.
Speaker 8 (14:30):
Okay, so golf, you know the golf channel when you
watch ball, speed, angle.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Et cetera. That what is what is this thing that
you guys have when this and what is the inside
joke here that I'm missing?
Speaker 5 (14:45):
Tony has studied this.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
You are all in on this.
Speaker 7 (14:49):
Yes, we currently have a track manas track man track
man is in golf. They use it to check launch angle,
spin rate, so you can dial in the clubs to
lower the spin on the driver because that keeps it straighter,
the proper launch angle. So what kind of shaft you
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have at everything, so to maximize distance. And then each
club has a spin rate. So if you translate that
to the kicking game, a kicker, there's a launch angle
that you want to optimize based on distance and everything else.
Obviously the seventy yarder came out much lower because you're
trying to drive that ball compared to an extra point,
and then the spin rate of the ball impacts how
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far it will travel as well.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Spinning faster goes farther.
Speaker 7 (15:36):
I think actually spinning faster goes shorter. If I'm not mistake,
I don't know that part. Yeah, but I'm just saying
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
It's one of the other.
Speaker 8 (15:44):
It's one of the other James has for those on
radio right.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Now, and so.
Speaker 7 (15:52):
Last year cam Little used that to dial in some
certain things just his own how he used it, his
eactly what he was looking for not exactly sure, but.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
They did use it.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Okay, So James, would you care to fill in the blanks?
Speaker 5 (16:08):
He has no blanks to fill in well.
Speaker 6 (16:13):
Because we got so close just so.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
Yes, he's got something to say about just about it.
He's an expert, subject matter expert on just about everything,
pretty much heat for the first So he just before this,
he walked into my office, didn't say a word for
two and a half minutes, just started writing on the
board everything he would have said, and walked out.
Speaker 6 (16:35):
I'm like, holy cow.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
Then he said, I wish you'd do this more often.
Speaker 6 (16:42):
No words needed.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
James Gladstone with us. All right, let's go from the
kicking game, which is important, yeah, to the trenches, which
is also important. Offensive line today, there's guy's moving all
over the place. Anton Harrison leaves practice. I mean this
is still work progress up front, guys, So where do
you stand now going into preseason week two? A lot
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of guys flipping and flopping and playing both sides of
the line here.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
Yeah, that position group on the whole has been a
really positive piece to the puzzle. They're working well together
and the moving one guy to another spot is all
part of the plan. In that look, that is a
position that typically sees attrition more so than just about
any and we got to be prepared for what happens
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if and so if you don't end up having a
guy work in tandem with the one next to him,
it can become problematic. It just becomes a slippery slope
if that's not something you intentionally prepare for. And so
that was something that was put into practice today. Oddly enough,
Antim went down with a lower leg and he'll be fine.
Speaker 6 (17:49):
There's nothing significant there.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
But at the same time, we were able to adjust
in real time and get guys some valuable reps just
in case there's a scenario down the road where that
presents itself. But as we peek back to what unfolded
in PS one preseason one, I think one of the
highlights obviously the seventy yarder was great, but something that
really jumps out is Beasehall Tuton's touchdown and the fact
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that that wasn't just a single person. That was a
representation of what football should be and that's who we
want to be. You talk about I talk about the
identity of this football team continuing to be developed in
real time, and that was a view into what this
could be. The entire offensive line getting in on that,
the wide receivers doing their part. That was a phenomenal
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exposure into what could be. And just got to continue
to stack those moments. But a really high moment from
my vantished point was seeing that unfolding. Really the plays
that preceded it. You got offensive linemen taking guys into
the sideline on screens.
Speaker 6 (18:55):
Those areability. That's exactly right, that's exactly.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Who talk about moving guys around. He played four different
spots in that.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Preseason game and plays them all.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
Well, yeah, so that was a Those are really high
marks for sure, uh and certainly great to get guys
to be able to play in multiple spots and feel
comfortable enough to do it, because change that's a changing
of stance from right side to the left side. That
can that can screw you up a little bit. I
don't say you got to get either side for him.
I just I mean, that's I think pretty special.
Speaker 6 (19:25):
It is.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
It's not easy to do, uh, you know, but he
certainly is kind of making it look that way right
in some instances, and and to do it in game
is really the the cool part. That is not an
easy thing.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Former teammate James.
Speaker 6 (19:38):
You know what he called that.
Speaker 8 (19:39):
He called that amphibious. Yeah, he was trying to figure
the word.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
He's going to the water, amphibious in and out of
the water. But pick it up on the line.
Speaker 7 (19:50):
Like in James talked about how that it was always
the plan, not just coming into camp. I'll go all
the way back to our free agency process led by
James and his perspective and experiences at Los Angeles, and
he articulated so well something I felt as an offensive
lineman and probably couldn't articulate it at the time is
having the depth because it's the one position group really
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on the offense, and all positions are important. But if
your O line cannot be functional, the rest of the
operation just does not work. I mean, it really handcuffs
what you can do. And we go back to free agency.
One of the things that why we were so drawn
to Patrick McCarry was his versatility to play five different positions,
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and he had started and played significant snaps and you
fast forward you look into the draft. A guy like
Wyatt We felt like he was a guard but could
play both guard and tackle. Joana Manheim played all five positions,
start all five positions at USC and so having not
only depth, but the versatility and the ability for guys
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to move spots helps you on game game day number
one as you think about your active roster.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
And it came to life the first day of camp.
Speaker 7 (21:11):
Patrick McCarey was our right guard. I don't think very
many snaps at all during OTAs did Tuma, a Dooba
play guard. He was mainly at tackle. When carry gets hurt,
insert Tuma and you don't miss a beat. You actually
create a competitive situation. Now we sit two and a
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half three weeks into camp or Tuma and Patrick are
fighting for that starting right guard spot because both are
competing at a significant high.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
Like a good level, a level you feel comfortable with.
Speaker 7 (21:45):
So this plan, like as people see and I get
questions on the field to day, it's like, hey, are
you moving because of performance? This has been the plan.
I wouldn't just say since camp about how we viewed
the construction of this offensive line, and James did a
great job of leading us and really highlighting that as
we went into free agency and start looking at players
in the draft and how we wanted to approach this.
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So having depth there is important, but also having guys
that have the flexibility, the talent, the mental capacity to
play multiple positions, because now we're asking guys that we're stressing,
guys like a Chuma, like a Patrick McCarey, like a
Wyatt Millan who's a rookie we've seen Joe and to
play center, right guard, left guard, same practice, and to
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have the ability to do that and still operate at
a level that we feel like is trending in the
right direction and could become a starting level quality type
of player. So I think it's the approach we've kind
of believe in. It's been executed, and hopefully it continues
to produce the fruit that we would like to see well.
Speaker 8 (22:49):
And part of this whole process of where you're at
now is trying to figure out what that roster is
going to look like. You know, the numbers game, so
to speak, at each positions. Is that James, that you
and Liam and Tony have talked about, about, Hey, look
this position group, here's the number that we're looking at.
Or does does the actual talent level at each position
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group impact that number of what you're going to keep?
Speaker 4 (23:14):
Yeah, you have your traditional numbers that are typically on
the fifty three man roster. You give a little bit
of flexibility saying, hey, this is a position we want
to be deep at. This is a position we need
to be deep at. It's one that has natural attrition.
Or say hey, as an example, typically you carry ten
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defensive backs. How you split that up between corners and
safeties can vary, can be six and four, can be
five and five right, and dependent on the versatility of
one of the players or multiple players within those position
groups who can vacillate between the two right, So you
have a little flexibility with that. How would you label yesterday?
Speaker 7 (23:55):
I was going to say, no, we've never talked about
this and no conversations all. It's an extensive conversation. I
think it's intensifying the closer we get to the moment,
and it's a it's a conversation where you got to
be honest, you got to be straightforward and listen you
obviously the coaching is involved in this.
Speaker 5 (24:18):
I mean obviously the head coach.
Speaker 7 (24:19):
But you want perspective and it's all part of the process,
and it's a continuous evaluation. So as you go through camp,
I mean you have in your mind and as we
go through it, you start doing your roster rankings and
looking at it. But you have to have the flexibility
and be agile in your own mind not to get
rooted in what you see, especially early, and be okay
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of having the ability to change your mind because different
data comes in, you see different things. The great saying
that I don't want to quote the wrong coach who
said this, but I've heard multiple people with.
Speaker 6 (24:59):
One that.
Speaker 7 (25:04):
People are allowed to get better, like players are allowed
to get better, And I say, I think so often.
What happens if you're not careful is you get rooted
in a belief. You get rooted in I don't like
this player, and then that clouds how you view them
while all the time they're getting better. I catch myself
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doing it all the time.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
There's players that go the opposite way, too, And.
Speaker 7 (25:27):
There's players that you say, hey, maybe we drafted him here,
or are we paying him this much money, or I
really like them as an individual or whatever, and all
of a sudden, you find yourself giving them the benefit
of the doubt and maybe overvaluing. And if you're not
comfortable having really direct, honest conversations, then you're gonna get
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in trouble because all of us as humans have these
biases that we fall in love with certain things or
fall out of love, and sometimes it can be hard.
And one of the things I've appreciate about the way
we communicate in the group that we have is, I
don't I know James is unafraid to check me on
saying huh really, And I think James has learned.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
Tony's humble enough to allow me the luxury to do
that without getting them.
Speaker 7 (26:19):
But also there's like you have to otherwise you're gonna
make like really dumb decisions. And and what I appreciated
about the process so far, and again, we have done nothing.
We're not keeping score yet. We are just in the
process and so let's not get too excited and and
you know, break our arms patting ourselves on the back.
But my belief is if you continue to have those direct,
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honest conversations and not be rooted in what you think
you saw. It's one of the first things I told
James when we met, I said, listen, I will be direct.
I have strong convictions, like you guys know, I think
I know everything, but they are loosely held. And that's
something I've tried. I learned in business like I have
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strong convictions like this is what we're gonna do, but
I am unafraid to change my mind and be wrong
if new data comes in a different perspective, because I've
looked back on life and I've made really stupid decisions
when I get rooted in something that's just not true.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
See things as they are, not as you wish them
to be. Right, And so the reason why I asked Tony, hey,
how would you label yesterday? To go back to your
original question, it was a player's day off, so our
coaches had a little bit more bandwidth to begin some
of the more structured dialogue as a part of this. Right,
we're through one preseason game, we have two more to go,
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so we had a fairly extensive conversation yesterday about a
lot of those counts positionally, side of ball, etc. And
what some of the things to look for over the
course of these next two weeks need to be and
how we need to maybe take action off of it.
Speaker 6 (27:58):
Right in preparation for some of those Hey James talking.
Speaker 7 (28:00):
To I'm gonna play and I'm gonna play the role
now you yes, I am, so just tell them to
relax for a second. Commercials will come when they come.
This is what I used to Doe, JP Crazy and
everyone over in the other room. James talk a little
bit because I love James said this yesterday and he
said it to me before. It was a great perspective
because listen, this is the first time I've been in
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this type of role. James has actually been doing this
for the last nine years and different iterations in different
spots within the front office, and so it's been a
lot of fun the learning for me and understanding like, hey,
this is good stuff and let me absorb as much
as I can. But talk a little bit about the
different perspective of where we sit maybe in the clouds
(28:44):
coaches and the weeds, which is just the exact opposite
it comes to the draft.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
Yeah, it's something that you know in the anything in
the off season, especially with player acquisition, pro free agency,
the draft, I'm in the weeds, so to speak, and
to lead up to those decisions, I am deep in
the nuances, the finer details. Typically a coaching staff enters
the equation and they're flying at thirty thousand.
Speaker 6 (29:08):
Feet so to speak.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
They are coming in providing their perspective without a ton
of the intricate knowledge that may be underneath the surface,
and they provide their thoughts, and that can be really
helpful to a decision maker.
Speaker 6 (29:22):
I value that.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
I think that it's important to be able to zoom
out and change alter perspectives. Tony and I what he
was writing on my board before we walked in here
was off the heels of a podcast around decision making
and how maybe distancing from decisions can be a helpful
part of helpful exercise before actually making them. But this
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is a technique to do that, and I think it
flips when we get to this part of the process
and that our coaches are in the weeds with our players.
They know the intent behind every play, they know the techniques,
they know everything that goes in. They know the nuances
behind why an offensive alignment should take, what step right,
those types of things. But Tony myself, any scout is
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actually zoomed out. Just like we're up on a perch.
We're watching, not all that different from somebody sitting in
a stance. Right, we don't know explicitly the details and
intent behind every single play call or everything every single
coaching point. So it is going to be a slightly
different perspective that can help somebody maybe think about it
(30:28):
a little bit differently. And so there's value that's right,
that's right, it's yin and yang, and so that was
one of the things that I definitely I highlighted a
little bit yesterday, but I just wanted to, I guess,
tap back into that knowing that it can be a
part of the equation just for any listeners, knowing that
those things can be useful. But no one right way
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is no one way is going to be the right
way all the time, right, So it does take a
little bit of humility from everybody to be able to
listen and respect that dialogue.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
You guys got time for one more little segment.
Speaker 5 (31:01):
We'll come back if it's really short, because we're over
our time right now.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
I mean, you're the ones gone through commercial breaks.
Speaker 5 (31:08):
I think that was the buzzer a couple of minutes.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Back in a moment one final thought, we'll get their
thoughts about what to expect on Sunday in the Superdome
in New Orleansist Liam Cohen Show on Jaguars Radio.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Welcome Back.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
The Liam Cohen Show, presented by Fresh from Florida continues
right now. J. P.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Shatrick Jeff Logovan, Toby Vasselli, James Gladstone, Final moments.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Welcome back, We're back, and we're back. James. What do
you want to see preseason week two?
Speaker 3 (31:44):
What's a successful night for the Jags in the Superdome
on Sunday or Day?
Speaker 4 (31:47):
Yeah, you know, obviously, I think safe to say that
a cleaner operation is something that is within the controllables
and should in fact show itself in preseason game two,
knowing that it was certainly a point of emphasis here
this week. Uh, and making sure that we execute, you know,
make sure when guys get the ops, they're able to
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come through, make the plays that they're supposed to and
and even more than that right be able to earn
there's their place on this roster, if not here, somewhere else.
But would like to see all that start to show
itself in a in a more consistent way, for sure.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Totally.
Speaker 7 (32:21):
Yeah, I would echo the clean operation. I'm just having
a clean operation from the sideline to the huddle, huddle,
line of scrimmage to snap. Just having a nice clean operation.
I mean that'd be that'd be a very positive I think,
continue the physical brand of football that are that we
are asking our players to play with. We've seen it
(32:43):
in practice. I thought there was good physicality in that
Steelers game. Wasn't perfect, but they were physical. James highlighted
that the toot and play that was a physical brand
of football. So I want to continue to see that
progress and that really become part of that identity. And
then I think anytime in preseason you want to come
through injury. For you, obviously it's you know, it's a
(33:07):
it's a physical game. You know, it's so you want
to try to get all your guys to the start line.
But at the same time, you got to practice. You
got to practice football to play football and to get
better at football. So it's that fine line of, hey,
we got to get the reps, we got to get
the time in, and I think everyone just, you know,
you're hoping that everyone gets through cleaned.
Speaker 5 (33:25):
On both sides.
Speaker 7 (33:26):
You know, at this time of year, you want all
the best players to be able to get to the
opening day and go play football. So, uh, those would
be kind of three things that I think are.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
I think beyond that though, too, as I just think
about it a little bit more. It's easy to go
to all right, here's some areas where we didn't meet
what we would have considered standards, right, But also I
would love to see it that in critical moments, critical situations,
we continue to show some positive science like a fourth
down conversion on drive one, Yeah, a fourth down stop
(33:58):
from our defense, seventy yard.
Speaker 6 (34:00):
Field goal, right, that type of stuff.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
But when it matters most your best shows up. And
so that did present itself last week. Can we stack that?
Does it remain consistent? And so that's a positive that
you'd like to see continue to be a positive as
opposed to let's call it a negative. Get better, right,
So that's all the element that I.
Speaker 8 (34:23):
Would always want to see a significant jump from week
one to week two. I mean, that's always what you
want to see the most because that's usually when you
see big improvement too.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
No doubt, James Tony. We'll do it again in Miami
next week.
Speaker 7 (34:34):
Yeah, I'm the beach and to make sure, but don't
wonder what. I know you're gonna be hanging at the
pool all day drinking umbrella drinks, and I want to
make sure you show up professional dress, professional, you know,
not a couple adult beverages in Why would you say that, Well,
(34:55):
just rumor has it that you like to know what rumor?
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Has it? This shows over?
Speaker 5 (34:59):
How about has it you like the pool?
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Get out of the studio, go back to your office.
Tony Basel, James Gladstone and Pond's good for JPN.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Yeah that's true.
Speaker 6 (35:09):
Appreciate the invite.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Yeah, great, You're always welcome, James, Tony. It's the Liam
Cohen Show on the Jaguars Radio Network.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Welcome back.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
The Liam Cohen Show, presented by Fresh from Florida continues
right now.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
We're back on the Jaguars Radio Network, presented by the
University of Florida Number one university and the US News
and World Reports Number one state for Education. JP Shadwick,
Jeff Logeman, Fourth Straight Show, James Gladstone and Tony Vasselli.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
And they just keep getting better and better. I think
there's always a little smirking going on. It's like inside jokes.
And so for the people that, uh.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
What where where can they watch it? To where they
get the video? To YouTube, YouTube and X it's a yes,
they're both websites.
Speaker 8 (35:59):
They got they got to get it there because it
is it is very entertaining to watch the looks that
these guys.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Have between the two of them. It is fun. It
is pretty fascinating to see them. They've there.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
I liked I loved his answer, but both their answers
on yeah, we're having conversations. They started really having them
yesterday about how you're going to break down the fifty
three I have the quick changes.
Speaker 8 (36:21):
How he was talking about being in the weeds versus
you know, thirty thousand feet, you know, from perspectives, and
you know how you know the scouts and the personnel
people are in the weeds, so to speak. And then
now that the practices and games are being played, the
coaches are the ones that are down the weeds, and
then his perspective is a little bit different. So yeah,
it's just it's cool. And the whole thing about the
(36:44):
preconceived notions I think is very interesting to me because
a lot of times you have them and some of
them are warranted, and some of them, you know, do
you trust them, you know, to be uh.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
To be repeated.
Speaker 8 (36:56):
So I think all that's very interesting when it comes
to making personnel decisions with a roster. Let's come back
in a moment, Well, you know what I wanted to
ask him that I didn't ask him, But yeah, was
the numbers. Give us a breakdown on the numbers of
each position, because you know, James threw out a couple
numbers that are fairly standard.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
The ten number for defensive back.
Speaker 8 (37:19):
Sometimes people consider that the same for offensive linemen, but
that's always evolving based on the talent you have.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
We'll get into the offensive performance in the scrimmage today
when we come back. It's the Liam Cohen Show on
Jaguars Radio.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Welcome Back.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
The Liam Cohen Show, presented by Fresh from Florida continues.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
Right now Jaguars football is officially back and be there
as number two overall draft pick Travis Hunter, the quarterback
Trevor Lawrence, and the entire Jaguars squad take the field
for the first time in twenty twenty five on the
Jags taking on the Panthers September seventh. Go to Jaguars
dot Com, slash tickets or Coldinlano four six three three,
two thousand and one o'clock kickoff time, JP Shaddick, Jeff Logoman,
(38:04):
Liam Cohen Show continues. We'll have the head coach in
week one of going into that Panthers game. Right after
the turn of the calendar into September our thanks to
James Gladstone Tony Bacelli earlier offensive performance. Jaguars had a
scrimmage today on the practice field. They set up benches
on both sides. They had the coaches off to the sideline,
some in the balcony upstairs, and basically went through an
(38:27):
entire football game today.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Yeah, I thought it was a great exercise.
Speaker 8 (38:31):
You know, the when you got a new coaching staff
and new coordinators, it's a it's a great exercise to
the mechanics, I think is also you know, when we
had Mark Duffner on earlier, the former Jaguars linebackers coach,
we talked about the mechanics of lining up to get
ready to play. Well, there's also mechanics that exist for
coaches to make a play call, you know, getting the
(38:53):
personnel grouping from somebody that's high in the sky in
the booth right so that he can give you a
personnel grouping, so you, as a defensive coordinator play caller
can get a personnel grouping, observe the down and distance,
and then put your defense in the best position possible.
So that process needs to be better for the Jaguars,
(39:16):
and then also the assimilation of the information on the
field needs to be better from the player standpoint so
that the performance can be better. You have a better
chance of success when you get lined up cleats in
the ground, so to speak.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
It's in one of those weeks finding the cleats in
the ground, the alignments and assignments and.
Speaker 8 (39:33):
Such, and so that's what I loved about today. It
was a great opportunity to practice some more of those mechanics,
the things that you struggled with in preseason game number
one against Pittsburgh, and Pittsburgh ran kind of a tempo offense,
but it was sometimes a little different in that they
would huddle, but then break the huddle and then hurry
(39:53):
to the line, So it was sometimes it was truly
no huddle. Sometimes it was just breaking the huddle and
getting to the line fast. And so it's kind of
two different situations, but you got to be able to
deal with all of them.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
Let's come back putting more ahead on the Liam Cohen
Show on the Jaguars Radio Network. Welcome back to Liam
Cohen Show, presented by Fresh from Florida. Don't miss your
chance to score an exclusive Brian Thomas Junior bibblehead and
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(40:26):
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Speaker 2 (40:34):
I had to pick one game out of those three,
right Jets?
Speaker 3 (40:39):
Yes, yes, yeah, that'd be a tough one. That bibblehead
look great on the desk though. Oh it would look
like right here in front of us. That would be
very good.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Wonder if we have sources. How many guys got bibbleheads?
Do you have a bibblehead? I do not of me? Yeah, no,
do you know? No, I've never had a bibblehead. No,
I have not.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
It'd be pretty cool to have, like JP bobble You
know who does have one? Joe fortune Ido has one?
Does he from his previous employer?
Speaker 2 (41:07):
I think they stopped production of that like thirty years ago.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
It's one of the original bibbleheads, like from the sixties. Yeah,
it is a pretty cool bibblehead. No, uh yeah, those
things are awesome. Man, who's the.
Speaker 8 (41:20):
Most famous bobblehead of all time? What do you mean,
who's the first bottlehead?
Speaker 3 (41:26):
Well, they had like the old ones that had like
just the general guy with NFL stuff on him.
Speaker 8 (41:32):
Yeah, like the I think that's that would be an
intra'd be a good trivia question. Who was the first
bobblehead of all time? Maybe we'll look that up.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
I don't know. Anyway, I'm looking forward to Sunday.
Speaker 3 (41:43):
And how weird is that one o'clock Sunday Sunday one
o'clock prec again here in the Dome.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
It doesn't matter, it's not gonna be.
Speaker 8 (41:49):
No, I know, but I don't think I've ever had
a Sunday afternoon one o'clock kick, which actually is twelfth
Central one o'clock in Jacksonville.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
I've never.
Speaker 8 (41:57):
I don't know if I've ever, and I probably have
and I just have forgotten. But it's just very rare,
if anything, you might have a Saturday afternoon You.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
Know what that means for us here in Jacksonville studio.
Speaker 8 (42:07):
Dinner plan Sunday night. You just get home in time
for dinner. I mean, it's fantastic. I like it because
New Orleans is not that long on a flight, no,
for you know, when you fly direct on the team charter,
which we won't be on the team charter.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
Oh really, no, we won't.
Speaker 8 (42:23):
We won't dig into the But anyway, looking forward to
the game, looking forward to New Orleans. And I will
tell you this, I like New Orleans because it's got
really good food.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
And I can't wait. Because I was telling you earlier.
Speaker 8 (42:36):
I was in New Orleans years ago and I happened
to find this place, Gus's Fried Chicken, and I'm going back.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
Oh, it's gonna be one of those. It was so good.
I ate two meals. It's gonna be one of those Saturday.
I'm not gonna have two meals this time, but I'm
gonna have a good one.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
We're back in a moment final thoughts ahead of the
Jaguars Saints Matt Jeffers Liam Cohen Show on Jaguars Radio.
Welcome back to Liam Cohen Show, presented by Fresh from
Florida Rolls Along. I thanks to James Gladstone and Tony
Boselli joining us in the first gosh forty minutes of.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
The show tonight.
Speaker 3 (43:11):
We'll do it again next week down in Fort Lauderdale
from the Team Hotel ahead of the Dolphins Jaguars matchup
at preseason Week three, and then we'll have Liam Cohen
Week one of the regular season logs. What are you
looking for in the game Sunday under the roof in
the Superdome.
Speaker 8 (43:26):
Well, I think first I want to see the evolution
of Travis Hunter in playtime.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
You know, could he actually be a true.
Speaker 8 (43:32):
Two way player this week where instead of you know,
there was last week was a focus on one and
then the other? Could he do both at the same time.
Really going to watch the running back rotation, the positions
that are played by the offensive lineman and then linebacker.
Those things I think are definitely bear worth watching live.
We'll throw one other thing out there, the performance of
(43:53):
the safeties, because that is like one of those positions
that is unsettled yet and the performance is going to
have a lot to do with who gets the nod
on starting opening Day.
Speaker 3 (44:05):
We'll find out Sunday, one o'clock eastern kickoff time for
the Jags and the Saints at the Superdome in New Orleans.
Jeff Loghman J. P. Shattuck are thanks to James Gladstone,
Tony Rosselli, Joe Fortunado, David job, Brent Reaver, Tyler Stid
of our entire crew. This is the Liam Cohen Show
on the Jaguars Radio Network,
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