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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to the Liam Cohen Show, presented by Fresh from Florida,
JP Shadwick and Jeff Logoman. Keep you informed in up
to date with the head coach of Jorge Jacksonville Jaguars.
The Liam Cohen Show starts right now.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Welcome in The Liam Cohen Show, presented by Fresh from
Florida from the Hyundai Studios at the Miller Electric Center.
We're on the Jaguars Radio Network, presented by the University
of Florida, number one university in the US News and
World Reports, number one state for education. JP Shadrick with
Jeff Logoman, we'll have the head coach, Liam Cohen. At
the start of the regular season, and now for the
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second consecutive week. Just in the nick of time, Tony Vasselli,
James Gladstone in studio with us. It was so popular
last week we had to do it again. Tony.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Two rules, Jp, we have two rules in this organization.
What are the two rules?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Names close to the mic?
Speaker 4 (00:54):
James, please, I know one thing. I'm looking at the
clocket's five oh one. Neither of us were on time.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I saw you.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
I got in at five zero zero with the one
right after I sat down.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
I apologize.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
I got respectful. I crossed the line in fairness.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
I'll accept the fine and fairness not making excuses. The
reality is both of us were in meetings that went
a little bit long. The day brings curveballs every once
in a while, and so we were sprinting down here
as fast as we.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Could, almost like prediction. Know that you guys were not
going to be right on time today. So I was
I was right.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
You know, one of our one of our one of
the challenges that we were going to do. We've been
talking about, Hey, what what can we actually face each
other in physical competitions, and one of them was going
to be speed walking.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I saw you. I don't know, those strides are notable.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
So I don't know if.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
When you start having challenges involving speed wall I lost
the first one after basketball. He definitely had so as
a player, we used to have like a kangaroo court, right,
I mean you had it to Tony where you would
have fines in the ding room, in the lot posed
locker room. Fine, you guys, between the three of you, you,
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you guys and Liam, do you guys have a little
fine pot.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Well, there's a it's not really a fine pot, but
you will catch there's a barbs thrown constantly across the
table for any activity that we deem the other two
deem is unacceptable.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
And usually whatever nickname gets attached to somebody hangs on
for about a week.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Yeah, it's, you know, Jeff, the closest thing I can
compare it to. It's much like the locker room. Yeah,
you kind of should be police yourself and uh and
take care of business and get the job done. And
if you don't, you're gonna feel the pain.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Yeah, you to hear about it. At least I remember
in the like when I was in New York, we
had some of our biggest pots, you know, we had
if you had a mental air in practice, got fined
and it was just in the.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Room, you know, and you've played defense.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Outside the big Some of some guys Tony don't learn
very well, you know, some do. So we had fines
for all of that stuff. You know. If you were
late for something, or if you passed gas in a
meeting room. You know, that made guys suffer. You got fined.
And at the end of the year we would have
a big party. Let's have a dinner and drinks and
memos and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
The elective effort.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Ye, you would make guys focus, But I think the
end of the year we usually had around four or
five grand Wow, you we had really all these mental
airs and we spent all of that on I bet
you did, and drinks. I bet you did. First two
padded practice days are in the books, James. What did
you find out reviewing it after the fact about this team?
Speaker 4 (03:59):
You know, I think it reveals a lot. You know,
once the pads start popping, you get an understanding for
the players, the position groups who are built for that setting.
And you know, at this stage has been phenomenal to
see the progression of our offensive line. Right obviously throughout
the off season program, no pads are on. It's not
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true football, It's it's a lot of above the neck
sort of focus. It's a lot of mental demands that
show up. And now that the physical demands are increasing,
you'd like for those mas to not start a surface
at a significant level, and that hadn't been the case.
And you know, the physicality has shown itself, and you
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know the the groups are playing connected, even though there
are some moving parts. It's really starting to shape into
what we all know the offensive line to be and
that's a collective effort, just like you know, the guys
who were filling the piggybank, so to.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Speak in the media. Uh.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
It has truly shown some real progression and I think
that's one of the highlights so far throughout the first
a half dozen on field sessions and training camp, and
look forward to seeing that continue to progress in the
way that we have.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
I'm sure Tony you were watching those guys real close
from Monday and Tuesday, because I was watching them close.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Well, actually, Jeff, I was watching the corners. You're hanging
out specialists. This kicker is really cool to see how
Cam was kicking it off the side. Didn't notice anything
about the offense defensive line at all. Uh No, obviously. Uh.
You know it's early and I think we all know this.
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The key is just to take it one day at
a time and not get too high too low, because
we are in the early innings of this whole process
of evaluation. But to start off, I echo what James said,
and I think the thing I was most pleased with
across the board for our team is the competitive nature
and the work ethic. You know, you get the pads on. Jeff,
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you and I both know that first day in pads
is tough. You don't feel right. I just don't feel right,
feel uncomfortable. You haven't put these things on for you
to get formed up a little bit, and uh, and
sometimes it can be messy early, especially on the offense
side of the ball. And I thought, really, both sides
of the ball did a great job. I think it's
a testament to our coaches in the preparation and the
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work our guys did in the meeting rooms. And I
thought the competitive nature stood out to me. And then
specifically on the O and D line, probably as physical
as I've seen us be in a while. And I
heard that from multiple people, and that's you know, I'm
not saying anything one way or another about how things
went in the past, but one of the things that's
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been emphasized by Liam and the staff is, hey, we're
going to be a tough, physical team. And it's not perfect.
It's you know, there's a lot to clean up, but
you can see the strain and the effort of guys working,
and that's finish and the finish and that's all. And
that's just not for our own d line. I mean,
I think watching our receivers, Uh, I'll highlight a guy
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like Parker Washington's you know, fighting you know, to have
a prominent role in our passing game, and the guy
who came on strong last year. But you know, what
was asked of him last year in the run game
is much different than what's asked now. And uh, and
seeing him get in there and mix it up. We
saw it again today. You know, him and Jordan Lewis
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competing and one day, one play you got Parker winning,
the next play, Jordan Lewis winning. And but overall, just
the strain in the effort to go do what they're
being asked to do. And that's I think that's all
you can ask. Do we need to get better, absolutely,
Do we need to clean things up, absolutely, But can't
question the guy's effort, can't question their strain and the
physicality that we're asking.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
I know that one of the guys that used to
be a personnel guy for a very long time, and
you guys probably remember James Shaq Harris, you know he
started this thing. He said, he said, let's uh, let's
not get a speeding ticket here, you know, getting ahead
of ourselves and too excited and all that. But you
know in the media, I can do that. I'm allowed
to do that. It's called wisdom. Yes, there's a couple
of guys that I just loved and watching the first
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two days of pads. Fred Johnson when he gets when
he gets pumped up and fired up, he's gonna knock
somebody about ten yards across the side of the field.
I mean, he's just a big man. Wyatt Blom physical
finishes to the echo of the whistle nearly every time.
Ezra Cleveland. Nobody's talking about Ezra and he's been having
as good of a camp as any offensive lineman. And
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Toon Harrison, I don't know how the channel are you
got challenge or what, but from OTA's to now, he
looks like a different player. I mean, there's guys that
are standing out and making you notice, you know, and
I appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Right, the credit's got to go around.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
It's got to go to the players who are embracing
new mode operation, new standards, and it goes to a
coaching staff who's holding those and so it's a collective effort,
and you know, it's going to take everybody to bring
this thing to continue to create the identity that is
going to be the twenty twenty five Jacksonville Jaguars, and
that's starting to show itself a little bit more each
and every day. But even beyond that, right, you got
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to appreciate the volume of hands that touch a ball
carrier from the defensive side right and even extended down
the field when some of these pop off, you know,
the urgency to pursue from the backside corner is there
on a consistent basis.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Three is a great example. That's a great example.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
That's exactly right.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
And when you got veteran guys that do it right,
like that with Tyson Campbell, because you know what you're
talking about. If you've got to play that's on the
let's say, defensive left side of the field and Tyson's
the right corner and he's running all the way down
the field forty yards to get a touch on the
running back. I mean, that's the example. I mean having
guys do that, that's that's more important than a coach
sitting there saying, hey, let's finish that's right.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
You know a perfect example of that. I think he
was what.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Day is it? Thursday?
Speaker 3 (09:59):
On Tuesday? Uh, there was a play and Josh Heines
Allens is dropping into his flat coverage. It's his own bitch,
you know. Assimilation on the other side of the ball,
and a great route by Brenton Strange and just a
just a bbe buy uh great and offensively you're like,
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I'm watching it, like great execution Brenton's doing, trying to
split the defenders. And from the backside here comes Josh
Heines aumd full speed punching the ball out, ball on
the ground, defense picks up, goes the other way it takes.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
The play is that everybody gets a chance to learn
from something and everybody gets a chance to celebrate something.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Right.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
That's a rep where both sides of the ball have
something to point out with the plus and something to
point out with the minus. Those are some critical reps
along the way here throughout training camp.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Plenty more ahead, just getting started. What we have you
for thirty minutes thirty thirty thirty from now, it's just
like just like that.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
That means half the hour.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Three It could be like three hours. It could be
back in a moment. This se Liam Cohen Show and
the Jaguars Radio Network.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Welcome back The Liam Cohen Show. Presented by Fresh from Florida.
Continues right now.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Welcome back, Yes, the Liam Cohen Show presented by Fresh
from Florida. We'll have the head coach the start of
the regular season, Jap Shadwick, Jeff Logoman, Tony Busselli, James
Gladstone and Studio with us live. Second week in a row.
We can just make this a weekly like a year long. Tony,
come on, man, like I know you miss it over.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
You give an inch, they take a mile, you know,
they they they We've talked a lot about that.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
It's been you know, it's been the day comment or
the proverbial day has been a theme we've hit on here.
How so because they is you?
Speaker 2 (12:02):
It's me?
Speaker 3 (12:03):
No, they is you. Because people always blame they did this,
or they made me do this, or they made this
decision or whatever. And the message really is in a
high functioning team and organization is take the responsibility. They
is you.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
I need to do this, I need to do that.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
I get to do this like this is an opportunity,
get better.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
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free parking lots, B, C, D, E, J, N, S
and tailgaters starting at four o'clock. What are you laughing at?
Speaker 3 (12:37):
I was gonna say, I just asked my mother in law.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Please, I love you.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Your story inspired.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Us gates opening five tomorrow. By the way, By the way,
that information is available on Jaguars dot com. Yeah, because
that's an alphabet soupo of information. Well, if I could finish,
it'd be great. Scrimmage shirts is seven o'clock. Free admission
at Jaguars dot com Slash Training Camp.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Let's talk a little bit about what they're gonna It's
gonna be a fun night, so hopefully a lot of
fans will come out and and uh it will be
a mock game full speed. We won't be tackling, but
it's gonna be a physical practice and uh a lot
of situational but it will be full pads, full go
seeing all our guys out there, and uh a lot
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of all of our rookies. So it's a good it's
a good opportunity for all of our fans to get
a first glimpse look before we suit it up for
the Pittsburgh Steelers in preseason game number one.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
I like the idea of simulating a game as close
to possible, especially because this is also a great exercise
not just for the players, their new rookies, et cetera. Yeah,
but you got a new coaching staff, a new staff overall,
to let everybody kind of assimilated into the way things
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are gonna be once the regular season starts.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
The mechanics of the game is something that has to
be considered, and obviously it gives everybody who's new to
this space and opportunity to see what it might look like.
And even for those who have been involved with it
operationally in the past, because of some of the modifications
in the stadium, it's not the exact same. So to
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be able to get a walk through is certainly going
to help alleviate some of the natural stressors that come
with doing something for the first time.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Yeah, so we'll go all the way through from the
very beginning of warm up. You know, the sequence of
the players coming out to warm up, go through a
warm up stretch, go back into the locker room, come
back out. National anthem coin toss.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
When you say locker room, that's the one that's used
in the State. The State the game walk not here,
it's a Miller Center.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Now it will all be abbreviated, so it's not like
a full forty five forty minute pregame, whatever the timeframe
is at. And in the twelve minutes in the locker room,
everything's cut down like three minutes, like just to get
the just to go through the go through the motions,
to understand as the players like this is how because
you know every team stretches a little bit different. Every
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team has a little bit of a different cadence to
the pregame warm up. Coaches will be in the booth
on headsets, so I'll be their first opportunity for the
staff to get in the booth, get comfortable with the surroundings,
get the communication. So it'll be a full operation. And
I think it's also good for our stadium operation, our business. Obviously,
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everyone knows a lot of constructions going over there and
test out everything, make sure everything's running well, and so
that when we kick it off in the preseason against
the Steelers, it's a great It's a great environment for
our players, for our coaches, but also for our fans
to come in and see the team.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Where are you guys gonna be like on game day?
Figure this out.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
We've spent time talking about it and we will remain agile.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
We're open to suggestions and.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
The scrimmage, Johnny, Look, you guys have a lot of flexibility.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Yeah, scrimmage. We're joking. During the regular season, James and
I will sit up and in one of the wherever
there's an open spy up for us to sit and
watch the game in a quiet space and to communicate
and watch it. Uh. During the you know, obviously during
a real game. For the for the mock mock game,
the scrimmage on Friday night, we've bantered back and forth.
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We've not quite decided exactly where whether we're gonna watch
it on the field, we go up in the booth
to watch it.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Got umbrella drinks on your balcony? You got them over
there too.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Yeah, umbrella. I'm hoping we won't need any umbrella drinks. Uh. No,
we we haven't decided for the mock game, but we'll
be up in the press box area, whether it's a
sweet right next to the press box or one of
the empty Again, I know I did not just trying
to get him back, James.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
He's just checking you guys.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Got it A lot can do? Man, more you can do.
I mean, I know, you just because you have to
work more this year, because it's just.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
More works, same pay. We're what week and a half
into a training camp, taking a look at Liam Cohen's
operation so far on a day to day basis, how
he interacts with the players, coaching staff, operates practice. James,
what stands out the most about the head coach?
Speaker 4 (17:33):
You know, one thing that has remained a constant is
the standards that he holds true and firm, and you
know that's a refreshing piece to to it all. But also,
you know, one of his superpowers, and it's really shining through,
is his ability to tap into feel and instincts and
gut and you know that's how he is as a
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play caller. He gets into a flow, he reads the game,
he reads the pulse of our players, the pulse of
the opponents, and he does that in a lot of
the practice settings that you know, our fans have had
the chance to see here, right, he saw in an
early practice where we cut one segment short because it
was operating at a high tick. It was one of
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those days where you know, it's it's easy to fall
victim to Wow, everything's rolling and I'm not even thinking
outside what this script on the sheet of papers is
telling me that I planned for. Instead, he's able to
zoom out and actually take into consideration a lot of
the other variables dynamics at play and be able to
adjust remain agile like Tony and I will be as
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it relates to where we're going to sit tomorrow night
or stand. But nonetheless that has really shined through and
that exists when you enter back into the building as
well his you know, maluability. It's I mean, it's it's
really cool to see someone now in that position who
I saw in a very different light with La Rams.
When we work together now operate in such a free
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flowing state of mind and openness to modify off of
what it is black and white on maybe a piece
of paper or a plan. So that agility, I think
is going to show itself in a lot of positive
ways moving forward, and certainly has already through the early
portion of training camp.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Yeah, and the only thing I would add, I mean
one hundred percent agree everything James just said. I think
the fun thing for me and kind of putting my
player hat on, thinking back of how a players receiving
information and experiencing and going through this whole new experience,
because it's new for everybody, whether it's players here last year,
our free agentcy have come in our rookies. This is
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a new operation, new messaging, new standard, expectations are different,
and I think Liam has done an outstanding job his
whole staff. He's an outstanding communicator. We hold communication in
highly high regard. It's important the three of us. Do
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you watch him communicate to our team of laying out
early starting OTAs how we're going to practice, reiterating that
in training camp, what's the standard, what's the culture, what's
the expectation? Pretty much everyone does that in the NFL
on any team activity, the follow up of holding people accountable,
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and a lot of people you hear the word holding someone,
holding someone accountable, you think that's a negative or like
discipline or like getting after somebody. It's not always that
if you can do it in a lot of different ways.
And his style of holding being consistent of what he
expects of play, style of effort, of physicality, of how
to approach the game, and he does an outstanding job
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of communicating that to our players throughout this process. So
I think that's been something that's been very refreshing. I
think it's very important. I think players yearn for consistency
of understanding what the expectation is, and then when they're
held accountable, it becomes ingrained and understanding that and it's
not changing. And I think Liam and his staff had
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done an outstanding job of saying, Hey, this is who
we are, and this is how we're going to operate,
here's the standard, and this is what we expect, and
while at the same time using his gift of having
that intuition of understanding as we're at a practice and
going through things and understanding and having a pulse of
the entire team and how to approach it and how
to tailor for any specific situation. So he's done an
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outstanding job. Obviously it still early. We will face the
challenges and adversity along the way, but was confident before
coming into camp. Watching how we've operated and how the
staff's operated even builds the confidence that whatever's thrown at
us will figure it out, We'll work through it, communicate
with each other, hold the standard that we've set and
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kind of attack it. So his communication has been elite.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
From going back to our playing days a little bit,
some of the great players that we experienced, and I'm
sure that you've watched James and scouted, et cetera. It
seems like they have what we would call edge, got
a little edge to them, a little feisty whatever, however
you want to term it. And it was kind of
interesting watching. It was actually on Jaguars dot Com. It
was little tidbits from The Hunt, which is gonna be
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one of the TV shows coming up. Youause have heard
of the Hunt, right, you guys have heard it. He's
the star past stars of the Hunt. I mean he
is a star of course anyway, supporting tease for the Hunt.
It's limb in front of the team talking about edge.
What is your edge? You know? But you know when
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you talk about Liam, the one thing that I kind
of see with him is that a coach has to
have a little edge too, because if you got a
little edge, the message gets through a little bit, it
gets to be more believable. I think it propels guys
to do more than maybe they're accustomed to if there's
a little bit of an edge to the coach. And
I think he's got it wrong. That do you guys
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see that feel that.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
I think you got a good sense for who he
is an intuition gut feel over there, Jack edge? All right,
so I'm feeling you guys are almost looking like one
right now.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Yeah, there's an edge.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
There's definitely an edge. What's your edge? JP?
Speaker 2 (23:20):
What is my edge? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (23:22):
What makes you different? What sets you apart with your edge?
Speaker 2 (23:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
Here's what I'll jump in real quick. Typically, when you're
talking about high performance, revealing your edge isn't necessarily something
yet you should feel like.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
That's why I asked JP, because he's more of a
mid to low performance.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
We're back in a moment. We're going to close this
show up when we come back. Now, we got we
got another fifteen minutes, right Not the way they're going
right now. This is this is how you get out
of here. Quicker Show on Jaguars Radio, Welcome Back.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
The Liam Cohen Show, presented by Fresh from Florida continues
right now.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
The final couple of minutes with James Gladstone and Tony Boselli.
And Boselli is timing this, so we got to get
out pretty quick.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Final couple of minutes William coach Japy Shaddick with Jeff
flaghaman scrimmage tomorrow and then guess what game week is here?
The Steelers are coming to let's go preseason week one,
real football, well preseason football, but.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Really, but it's it's actually gonna be and we talk
about this all the time. It'll be the first time
of authentic football, full tackle, the full tackle like we
are playing football. I mean, we're playing football the now
with thudding and our guys are being physical doing everything
we ask. But obviously you want to protect guys. But man,
you kick it off against the Steelers, you have an
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opponent out there, it's it's full going and you and
you learn more. I mean, JP, we talked about this
for years together. This is all an evaluation process used
build towards opening day, and each of each segment is
an additional data point that you learn about your team,
about the individual players, your coaches, us as a building,
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how we operate, and so ramps up kind of ramps
up all the way to opening day, and it's a
big moment. Preseason is important and a lot of guys
fighting for jobs and fighting for the opportunity and they're
gonna have a chance in a real NFL game setting
to go show that they deserve to be on the
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team shooting.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
I don't know what it was like when you two
were on the grass, but it.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Was leather helmets. First of all.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
Yeah, I guess it was quite a bit different, But
the timing of roster reductions had to have been a
much different different And that was when I first got
involved in the NFL. It was the case you had
three separate waves of reductions. The fact that we get
to carry ninety players through the end of the preseason
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is a really helpful piece to the puzzle, right. You're
not moving from players too quickly right after preseason week one,
and now it becomes a challenge preseason week two and
week three to even fill out the group and keep
everybody healthy and.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Especially I mean most teams have gone and we're still
in the evaluation process of how we're going to handle this,
but a lot of teams across the league are playing
the starters and their premier players less and less in
several instances, not at all during the preseason preseason, using
the camp and joint practices that opportunity to get the
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work in necessary to be ready opening day, and so
having that ninety man roster all through preseason Game three,
it's critical to really get out their evaluate and give
guys a chance to go earn a roster spot.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
I think it's a great debate on how do you
how do you approach the preseason with playtime and starters
and the risk of injury versus the risk of getting
guys ready to play. I mean, back you know the
old days, pre standard. I mean I'm not to bring
up the old days. Everyone did the same everybody did
the same thing, same thing. It was one quarter in
the first game, the second game, you'd go to the
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quarter and a half to the half. The next game
you'd come out after halftime.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
And nowadays everybody's trying to find an edge.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
And here's speaking from experience. Wow, wow, you kind of
that up their JP. And the interesting thing, Jeff, you
bring up a great point. You see teams that play
their starters in pre season and win. You see teams
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that don't play starters at all and win. And so
it's not like there's like the data says like do
this and here's the result, or do that and you
we'll get this outcome. So it goes back with James
was talking about Leam. You gotta have a feel your
head coach has got to feel the team, feel the situation,
understand where you are. And I think that's one of
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the reasons we've been Liam has been very quiet all
the organization of what the plan is. Kind of Liam,
we trust one hundred percent to understand kind of where
we're at and what he needs to and his coaches
need to do and see and and get a feel
for and and we'll find out opening night, and.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
We'll probably talk about it next week if there's a
decision out there. Next Thursday, how about.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
That time Town Possibly we'll see Baby remain agile.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
That's right, James, great to see. Appreciate you, Tony, you
were here. We have another seven minutes. We're done with these,
especially that one. James is more welcome. I appreciate the
Tony with us back with more so. The Hum Coach
Show on the Jaguars Radio Network, Welcome Back.
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The Liam Cohen Show, presented by Fresh from Florida continues
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And we are on the Jaguars Radio Network, presented by
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J P.
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Shatick with Jeff Logoman, another fantastic conversation with James Bladstone
and Tony Boselli live in the studio. You know, I
think we need to once we get to the regular season,
since we're gonna have Liam on, which by the way,
I really wait for it. He's great, and we should
have like maybe a second show. So I'm saying that
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Gladstone Biselli show have a pod. A podcast. Yeah, that's
the rage these days, right, everybody's got everybody's got a podcast. Podcast.
It seemed like nowadays, let's throw these guys out there. Anyway,
I was walking into building Monday or Tuesday, I don't
remember exactly which day, and I saw, you know how,
sometimes in in football stadium or buildings or any kind
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of athletic buildings, you always see these sayings, right, you know,
team not me, four A to B right, that kind
of stuff, all that kind of stuff. And so there
there was one that was up in the building downstairs,
which which I saw as I walked by, and I
couldn't help but notice that I thought it was pretty cool.
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And it's a it's called cleats, and cleats is spelled
C L E A T S. Thank you. That's what
that UVA education did for me. And on the sign
it says cleats and of course between each letter is
a period, meaning that's an acronym for something. So it
says cleats. Be where your feet are, so you go
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to the C. It's commitment, and it says selfless devotion,
We above me. L is for love, prep, practice, game,
the process drives results. Gotta love the press E energy, energy, vibe,
positive state of mind, uplift your space. ViBe's a good word.
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I like that a authentic relationships are built on trust,
t tough mentally and physically. And then the S is smart,
expert of your craft. Pretty cool stuff. I thought that's
a really cool thing to have on the side of
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the building because if you follow that thing right there
as a team and as an individual, you will be successful.
It's part of building the culture of what they want
around here. I like sayings like that, you know, I mean,
it's in black and white, it's right there in front
of everybody to see it, read it, feel it. That's
the culture that they're building. I like it. Let's come
back in a moment. We'll talk a little more ballogs
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when we come back. A couple of padded practices. Earlier
this week, we got to get to and a teaser.
Robert Haynes. Okay, if you're gonna block Devon Hamilton on
the very first one on one pass rush move? Okay,
if you're Hainsey, what do you expect? And number two,
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how are you gonna react? Well? See when we come back.
It's the Liam Cohen Show on Jaguars Radio. Welcome back.
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The Liam Cohen Show, presented by Fresh from Florida continues
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We are back and we'll have the head coach with
us starting week one of the regular season or thanks
to James Landstone GM and EVP Tony Baselli joining us
the first to half hour of the program tonight and
throughout the rest of the preseason. Been fun so far
two weeks in to have those guys in studio with us.
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I like the throwbacks, Yeah, they're cool. I think, I
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think they're fantastic. I think they would to wear them
all the time. I think, yeah, we'll see how many
times they wear them this year. But I think there's
some rules on that they're not doing alternative helmets or anything, right, No, no, no, yeah,
I think that was that one game white helmet. I
think that's done. Now. If you could pick an alternative helmet,
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what what would the style be like a new one
or what I mean, what you would want to see
if you were the designer and you had the decision
to make the call on an alternative helmet, which it's
not like you can go back in time and say,
you know what, let's go back to the first one,
because they're so close now versus back in ninety five.
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But if you could come up with a different color,
a different skim, a different look, probably a teel helmet, right, yeah,
probably so, or one with Jaguars spots all around, that'd
be a different kind of like bengalish yeahs, but not quite.
I don't think i'd like that. You wouldn't go back
to the two tone? No, that was so bad. Okay,
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that was so bad. Okay, Hey, let's get back to
your question before the break. If you're Robert Hansey offensive
lineman and you're lined up against Devon Hamilton, what's your approach? Okay,
So Robert Haynes, he'd get people onto a veteran center
they acquired from Tampa Bay. And and if you look
at him, you know he's he's a big guy because
he's an offensive lineman, but you know from the waist
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down he's not like a big, giant, hulking guy six
four three oh six. And Devon Hamilton they list him
at like three thirty five. But there ain't no way
you think he's bigger than Oh gosh, I think that's
about fair. No, no, no, no, no, no, he's plus
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So anyway, Von Hamilton incredibly strong, Okay, Hainsey, you know,
not as strong. So if I'm Hainsey, the first thing
I'm thinking is this guy is gonna try to just
walk me back to the quarterback with a bull rush, right.
So Hainsey's prepared for that. And one of the great
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things about smart veteran players, which Hainsey is one of them,
you can kind of send a message to create a
little uncertainty in the minds of players going forward. If
you do the right thing first. Hainsey sets here, comes
to Von Hamilton with the bull. Hainsey knocks his hands down,
buries him in the grass. So what is Devon Hamilton
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thinking about the next time he's pass rushing. I can't
do that. He's gonna knock my hands down. So now
he's a little hesitant the next time, so in Hainsey's
able to slow the momentum a little bit the next time.
I just thought it was real crafty by Hainsey, kind
of expecting that at being prepared for it, reacting to it,
and then he kind of sets the tone for the
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ensuing rushes. And as a smart veteran player, if you
have a little bit of that wherewithal and awareness in games,
it can make the difference between winning and losing individual battles.
So pretty cool to see. Yeah, and yeah, he's been
around for five years, his fifth year in the league,
so he's played some football. Yeah, he's uh, he's not
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real big from the waist down now, you know he's
an offensive lineman. You know you if you if you
took a picture of him and just legs and I
gave that picture to you JP waist down, I said,
predict what position this guy plays out and it was
amongst other ones. Okay, there's no way you would say
offensive line, do you what would you say? Probably linebacker? Okay?
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I mean everybody's got a different body, you know, everybody's different.
And he's you know, slight down low compared to most
all offensive lineman. But he's you know, he's big up
the top, you know. And he's obviously a good football player.
He started a lot of football games, and he's gonna
help this team. Let's come back in a moment. Let's
get in the secondary. We haven't really touched the air
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a lot in the last day or so. And and
on top of that, we talked about this earlier in
the week, and you forgot Okay, So I'm gonna remind
you what. There's two guys on this football team that
I will okay, And when I say what about the rest,
you don't like the rest of them? No, I like
a lot of it. There's only two, but there's two
guys that are If you have a lot of guys
like these two guys, you can win a lot of
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football games because these guys are tough and they're dependent. Dude,
Leave was hanging no, okay, we'll come back and back
outside of the break. All right, it's the Liam Cohen
Show on the Jaguars Radio Network. Welcome Back.
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Liam Cohen Show. We'll have the head coach Week one
of the regular season. We had James Gladstone and Tony
Bisselli in the first half hour tonight. Let's get into
the secondary now. And you said you had two guys
that you loved on the team and the rest of
them can go. Pound sand said, Okay that I said.
I just said, you know, the more guys that you have,
like these two guys that I'm gonna bring up, I think,
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the greater chance you have of being being successful and
the two guys I'm talking about, Parker Washington and then
Brenton Strange. You know, I don't consider these guys like
rockstar superstars in the NFL. You know, maybe Brenton Strange
can take that next step to be one of these
elite tight ends, but that's not where he's at right now.
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But he's a guy just like Parker Washington. Whatever you
ask them to do, they do it well. And they're
not elite players, but they're tough players. They're dependable players,
they're always available. Give me a bunch of those guys
and you can win a lot of football games. And
Parker Washington is kind of an afterthought right now, you know,
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because all of the attention is on Travis Hunter, It's
on Diammie Brown and also BTJ. Yes, and we'll wait
a minute. Parker Washington's a good football player and also
a very good return man. And I appreciate how his
name is coming up and being positive because I appreciate
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Parker Washington. He works incredibly hard. This conversation kind of
flips over to defense as well, and they did a
lot of work this offseason to rebuild the defensive back room,
safeties and corners, free agency play draft picks, and I
think you're seeing, at least early in camp week and
a half in two padded practices, there are some positive
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signs out of some of these new faces. And the
one that pops out to me almost every day is
Jordan Lewis, the cornerback, ninth year man out of Michigan,
was in Dallas the guys everywhere, seems to get his
hands on football every day, super competitive and has just
you talked about an edge, right, he's got doubt it.
He's got something about God. And what I like about
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him too, that edge. Okay, he competes with guys, but
then plays over he's helping the offensive guy up. He knows, hey,
look that's my teammate. And there is no doubt that
that whole position group has been elevated. James Gladstone did
a wonderful job in free agency with addressing that position group.
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I say that position group, the whole back end. It's
going to be interesting to see who's gonna start. There's
some very clear choices right now. Tyson Campbell's gonna be
your right corner. Jordan Lewis is gonna be your nickel guy.
Who's gonna be your left corner. I don't know, could
be Travis Hunter what you would assume? So right? But
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what happens if Travis is not out there? Does Jordan
Lewis go back outside? Does Jari and Jones go in
there at left corner? Does Monteric Brown once he comes back?
Does he end up making some some a spot for himself?
A great question. The safeties you got brought You brought
a guy in via free agency. You've got a guy
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last year who many thought was not any good anymore
in Antonio Johnson, and all he's doing is playing good
ball right now in training camp. They got Eric you
mentioned the veteran Eric Murray, tenth year player at of Minnesota,
but good solid head above his shoulders, football smart always
seems to be in the right place. Man Dewey Winger
same thing back there. Uh has given you quality snaps
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in the past. Performances have been really solid. So that's
gonna be a really fun group to watch evolve. We'll
come back in a moment our final thoughts. We'll look
ahead to the scrimmage Tomorrow night of The Liam Cohen
Show on Jaguars Radio.
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Find a Moment's j P. Shaddick with Jeff Loogman scrimmage
tomorrow night. Jaguars dot Com Slash Training Camp. Register for
free admission four o'clock. The free parking is open. Gates
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and then seven o'clock the actual scrimmage begins. But the
hour leading in there'll be some on field warm up
things and excited to see what this team has to
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offer tomorrow night, especially quarterback. Let's see the Trevor Lawrence
show tomorrow. Well, the performance of everybody but Trevor Lawrence.
And I mean at times Trevor's just kind of been
okay and then times you're like, wow, that was helping.
He threw a deep ball today, that's beautiful. But the
other guys that are behind Trevor, you're just like, eh, eh,
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so I think that that's gonna Look. I know that
they wanted to surround Trevor with guys that have had
experience in the system, sure, which they accomplished that, but
at some point into the future you need to also
start realizing, hey, look, we need to get we need
to get an upgrade there, make that position better across
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the board. You know, not obtaining you know you're goutting
Trevor or anything. I'm just saying, elevate the players at that
room and make it better and more competitive overall. So
tomorrow scrimmage time, and we're about a week away from
preseason week one, so we're in the thick of it
right now. Well, and then Pittsburgh is when is that?
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What day is that? Saturday? Saturday night? Saturday night? Yeah,
that'll be a fun one. I wonder who you know
and they know who's not playing? Aaron Rodgers will not
play it that you don't think, I don't think so, I
doubt it. Well. The interesting thing from our perspective is
because you know, preseason is one of those games you
don't care about the other team for the most part, right,
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you care about evaluating your team, the health of your team,
and who's playing and who's not for your team. That's
gonna be the interesting thing next week is who's playing
who's not. I don't care because I'm watching it either way,
all right. Thanks to James Gladstone, Tony Vasselli, Joe Fortunado,
Brent Reever, David Choe for Jeff Logerman. I'm JP Shaddick.
This is the Liam Cohen Chow