The Lincoln Ware Rewind: August 6, 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:11):
I'm still on a speeding bullet.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Or powerful gonna lookomotive.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
Hey, we'll believe all buildings at a single bound.

Speaker 4 (00:24):
Cry.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
It's a bird to Lincoln. Lincoln, Lincoln so bingus Nana
being gun babu ho ling gun Lincoln. They say that
Cat Lincoln is a bad mother. We're just talking about Lincoln.
Good morning, Cincinnati. Welcome to twelve thirty w dv Z.

(00:49):
We are the buzz of Cincinnati, your talk station. The
Lincoln were show till one o'clock this afternoon. We've got
a lot going up today in council. They will vote
on the curfew, and I think eleven o'clock for everybody
under eighteen.

Speaker 5 (01:09):
I think that's good. I'm good with that.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
I don't think they should split the ages up in this,
you know, I don't know. I'm good for eleven o'clock
for everybody under eighteen.

Speaker 5 (01:20):
And we'll see what happens.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
The guy Clyde Bennett was defending in court, the doctor
who did some ultrasounds on genitals.

Speaker 5 (01:32):
I mean, gee, well.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
I don't think I think Clyde Bennett was going to
be able to keep him out of jail.

Speaker 5 (01:38):
I don't think he's going to jail.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
He'll probably get probation, and we'll see this guy signed
to chose to have a non jury trial. So I
don't think he's going to jail.

Speaker 5 (01:54):
I think.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
He'll get probation and probably of course he didn't have
a medical license, I guess, so I don't know. Anyway,
he'll probably stay out of jail. Another shooting OTR last night.
Man shot to death in his car and they found
a gun in the car. Yeah right there on oh

(02:21):
boy on Wes mcmickon. Yeah, I went to the doctor
today for that and they gave me something for that,
you know, but I didn't take it yet. So yeah,
I should be okay. Maybe by the weekend.

Speaker 5 (02:34):
I don't know. And let's see.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
According to the authorities, he was shot in the head
inside the vehicle, where a firearm was found. It's unclear
whether the firearm found was involved in the incident, and
they believed that the victim picked up the guy who
shot him.

Speaker 5 (02:55):
Yeah, I need a ride, pick him up and you
get shot. Geez. All right.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
I want to hear your comments on the curfew. Do
you like it, You think it's gonna cut down on anything,
You think it's gonna work cops taking some of the
kids home. If somebody's at home, maybe they'll take them
home they can't find their parents, take them to twenty
twenty or the lighthouse.

Speaker 5 (03:29):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
We will see if it works. And then they had
another plan and either I agree with my girl, jan
Michelle lemon Kearney. I agree with her like ninety nine
point nine percent of the time I agree with her,
But this is one time I don't know if I
can go along with this. She wants to pay the

(03:54):
guys who shoot somebody or who break the law stuff.
She wants to pay them not to get in trouble again,
like one thousand dollars a month or something. And I'm
saying that would be like, okay, my uh. When Tamiko
and Tia was growing up, Tamiko was a good child.
She never got any trouble to Tia was a girl

(04:18):
that always wanted to buck the rules and you know,
not abide by the rules. So I'm gonna say, okay, Tia,
We're gonna give you one thousand dollars a month if
you just don't get in trouble anymore. Tamiko, for you
always been out of trouble, being a good girl, nothing
for you. I don't know if that's fair. I don't

(04:38):
know if that's fair. I don't know if that's fair
or not. But I don't know if I agree with that.
And I don't think counsel was gonna go along with
my good friend jan Michelle lemon Kearney, who I agree
with ninety nine point nine.

Speaker 5 (04:55):
Percent of the time, but this one, I don't know.
I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
But she said they have to earn the money. They
have to show that they're doing the right thing. They have,
they have some goals to meet before they get the money.
So when she puts it that way, I don't know,
But yeah, I don't know if I could, I could
vote yes on that at council if it came up.

(05:24):
It was tied coming out of committee two to two.
So I don't know. But that's that's kind of crazy.
I think you were you know, if you okay, you
shot somebody, and if you don't shoot anybody else, we're
gonna pay you. I don't know, a wing stop employed.

(05:44):
I never had wings from Wingstop?

Speaker 1 (05:46):
Have you?

Speaker 3 (05:48):
Yeah? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (05:49):
Pretty decent?

Speaker 5 (05:49):
Pretty okay? Yeah? Well down in uh.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
I think it was a Memphis, Memphis, Tennessee, a wing
stop worker was arrested days after she allegedly threw how
hot cooking oil on two customers, leaving them with serious burns.
According to the complaint obtained by Law and Crime, two
customers entered location on July twenty second to pick up
an order. The pair reportedly got into an argument with

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one of the workers, twenty five year old.

Speaker 5 (06:19):
Janika.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
What's their name? It's cut all gone? Printing, didn't cut
off some of the printing, Janika?

Speaker 5 (06:27):
Something? Is their last name? Janika?

Speaker 2 (06:30):
Right? There would have been enough. If her name is Janika,
you know she's coming.

Speaker 5 (06:34):
With some smoke. You know that.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
While the two women were continuing to argue with Janika,
she went to the kitchen, grabbed a bowl and filled
it with hot cooking oil, and then allegedly came back
out of the kitchen and threw the bowl of hot
oil onto the customers. The door reportedly hit both customers,
leaving second to gree burns on one woman's face and

(06:57):
chest eighteen percent of her body, and even the other
one burns on the right shoulder.

Speaker 5 (07:03):
So a lesson learned. If her name is Janika, leave
her the hell alone.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
Get your chicken and get the hell out.

Speaker 5 (07:14):
Yes, Janika would have been enough for me.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
I would love to know what led up to that.

Speaker 5 (07:20):
That's extreme.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
Well, they were arguing about an order, I guess, and
she didn't like it, and they went back and forth,
and she said, Okay, I got something for you. I
got something for you. I went back to the kitchen
and brought back that hot brought back some smoke.

Speaker 5 (07:39):
Oh boy.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
Well, we talked about this last week and it's happened again.

Speaker 5 (07:44):
In the WNBA.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Somebody threw another sex toy out on the floor of
an NBA game, the latest toss of a sex toy
it was, and they both were neon green in color.

Speaker 5 (07:57):
What's up with the neon green sex toy?

Speaker 2 (08:00):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (08:00):
Is that something new? Is it a new fad? I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
But it came during Tuesday night's game the end of
Anna Fever and the Los Angeles Sparks at the Crypto
Arena in La Crypto dot Com Arena in La two
minutes remaining in the second quarter, the sex toy landed
on the court in the lane near the Fever forward

(08:24):
Sophie Cunningham. So they don't know if they were trying
to hit her or whether they was just throwing a
sex toy out there. But what is with this neon
green in color sex toys? I don't know what's up
with that? All right, Governor Abbot boy else tech boy.

(08:45):
I tell you that's one state I would not like
to live in as long as Governor Abbot is the governor.
Now he has sued to remove the House Democratic leader
amid the redistricting battle. So man, of course, the Democrats
are denying Republicans the quorum to need it to vote

(09:08):
on the redistricting plan sought out by Donald Trump. The
b ET Awards. You know, everybody likes to be ET Awards.
You know, they clowns up the big time on the
b ET Award. Well it's being canceled, can you believe that?

(09:28):
But they say, we're not really canceling it. We're gonna
move it to a streaming. We're gonna reimagine it, redesign
it and move it to streaming. I guess they're gonna
take it off with linear TV, you know, the satellite,
the cable, the over the air TV. They take it
off that and they're gonna try to move it to
a streaming service, but they got to figure all that

(09:49):
stuff out, so they say it's not canceled for good,
it's just canceled on regular TV, but it's coming back someday.
But they are gonna keep the Soul Train Awards and nothing.
So yeah, I think they're keeping the Soul Training Awards
and the the Stellar Awards or something like that they're keeping.

(10:13):
So yeah, the Soul Train Awards and the Hip Hop
Awards are the ones suspended, and they're gonna keep a
couple of those other awards shows that they had the
I think the Boy, I don't know what it was,
but they're gonna keep those, so we'll see what happens there.

Speaker 5 (10:31):
Byron black Uh executed in Tennessee.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
For murdering his girlfriend and her two daughters. And so
he had a heart device and they were saying when
they gave him the leadal injection when his heart stopped,
the device was gonna bring you back alive, and he
was gonna suffer pain. And as he was dying, he

(10:58):
did say, this is her, Oh this hurts. He was
saying that out loud when he was dying, so I
guess it was true, but they didn't care. In Tennessee
he was a black man, so you know, they didn't
care all pain. What pain, black folks don't feel pain.
Go ahead and give him the lead to injection. When
his heart stops, he'll come back alive and suffer some more.

Speaker 5 (11:20):
That's pretty much what they were saying. And it happened. Yeah,
it happened.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
There were some people from the media watching and they
said he did say it was hurting.

Speaker 5 (11:34):
It was hurting. So man, an.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Early sign of economic strain is when the unemployment rate
for black folks go up real high. Yes, the unemployment
rate for Black Americans hit seven point two in July,
up from six point three a year ago. And they

(12:01):
say black women in particular have seen a dramatic increase
in unemployment over the past year.

Speaker 5 (12:09):
Yeah. And you know, with the end of DEI and.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
All that stuff, a lot of black folks were in
positions and those positions were eliminated. And overall, Black Americans
account for eighteen percent of the federal workforce as of September,
compared to twelve percent of overall workforce.

Speaker 5 (12:32):
So yeah, like I.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
Said, when they got rid of a lot of those
federal workers, a whole lot of them were black folks,
especially in the VA and places like that, and I'm
sure that's part of the whole problem there too.

Speaker 5 (12:47):
Yeah, so there you go.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
I didn't even know they had a black daycare in Madere,
but apparently they have a black daycare and they're.

Speaker 5 (13:00):
Gonna have to move.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
It was in the basement of a church, and apparently
they sold the church and the daycare has to move.
And I think they had like eighty families have kids
at this daycare, and they don't have anywhere to go.

Speaker 5 (13:22):
And they say it's.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
Hard to get your if you got two kids, it's
hard to get both kids in the same daycare. And
they say it's hard to get one spot let alone too,
And so these families are scrambling, scrambling to find a
place to put their kids that were in this church
in madeir which I had no idea. They had not

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very many black folks in Madair anyway, and I had
no idea they had a daycare there.

Speaker 5 (13:51):
Unbelievable, unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
All right, every line is already busy before I take
my first break. So we'll take a break and then
we'll come back and we'll hear what you have to say.
Five one, three, seven, four, nine, twelve thirty, The Lincoln
Wear Show, twelve thirty, The Buzz Hollywood Swinging Cool in
the Gang. Yes, the real Terrence Howard on the Ones
and Twues today as he is every day. You know,

(14:18):
all right, boy, the lines were packed. She had to
come in the back door today. Detective Tiffany Green, Crime Stoppers.
What's going on?

Speaker 5 (14:26):
How you doing?

Speaker 6 (14:27):
I'm good, Good morning Lincoln.

Speaker 5 (14:29):
All right, you didn't panic when the lines were busy,
did you?

Speaker 1 (14:32):
I did?

Speaker 7 (14:32):
I did?

Speaker 3 (14:33):
I might.

Speaker 8 (14:34):
Oh no, not again, knew, I knew.

Speaker 5 (14:36):
All right, I figured you would, I said. And then
that was one I said. I hope she has that number.

Speaker 4 (14:43):
I do.

Speaker 6 (14:44):
I told Terrence. I said, hey, I'm gonna need your
cell number.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
Terrence, Oh, oh okay, he said, Oh, you can have
his cell number anytime. That's what he said. All right,
who are we looking for today?

Speaker 6 (14:56):
Cincinnati Police District Flour is looking for Bowhead and then Copeland.
Mister Copeland is wanted for burglary, felony, strangulation, misdemeanor's sexual
and position, misdemeanor, theft, misdemeanor, assault, and misdemeanor aggravated menacing.
On July twenty fifth, twenty twenty five, mister Copeland climbed
through the victim's window and stole an iPhone fifteen. Copeland

(15:21):
is a male black, thirty six years old. He's six
foot and one hundred and fifty pounds Bohanna. Copeland has
a history of drug possession and assault, and was last
known to live on Dudley Walk in the West End.
Johnny Harris is wanted by the Ohio Adult Parole Authority
for a felony parole violation. Mister Harris was originally charged

(15:42):
with felonious assault. Johnny Harris is a male White. He's
thirty one years old. He's five eleven and one hundred
and sixty pounds. Johnny Harris has a history of assault
in drug abuse and was last known to live in Milford, Ohio. Listeners,
if anyone has information on where police can find hann
And Copeland or Johnny Harris, please call crime Stoppers at

(16:03):
five one three three five two thirty forty or submit
a tip online at Crime Desk Stoppers dot us.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
All right, three five two thirty forty, night or day,
cash money for your clues and uh uh we'll be
uh broadcasting live tomorrow from the seventh day Adventist Church
for come see lotions. So we'll be over there tomorrow,
but we'll talk to you tomorrow.

Speaker 7 (16:28):
Alrighty, all right, all right.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
That's Detective Tiffany Green from Crime Stoppers. And she did
panic as I figured she would when she called. And
hawaiis were busy, Yes, all right, all right, five one, three, seven, four, nine,
twelve thirty. Let's see what something else? Oh yeah, still
waiting for the white Russian to be arrested.

Speaker 5 (16:54):
Still waiting. And I saw his arrest record from.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
Guests who arrested him back in the day, The fang
Man after Yah, the fang Man, I think it was, Yeah,
Keith Fangman arrested this guy.

Speaker 5 (17:12):
Let me see what year was that? What year? What year?
Where is that?

Speaker 2 (17:17):
Oh boy? I had it here somewhere, Oh here it
is Keith Fangman, Alexander Tureski whatever, however you pronounced that
Russian name. At twenty eleven October thirtieth, twenty eleven, Keith

(17:39):
Fangman arrested him. He lived in Westchester, Ohio at that time. Yeah,
and disorderly after blew his horn at arrested or something.
I can't hardly read England's writing here but he was

(18:03):
arrested by Keith Fangman. Yeah, back in the day, twenty eleven.
So this guy's no, he's no mister Rogers. For sure,
he's got an arrest record. Keith Fangman arrested him. And

(18:27):
why he's still walking the streets of Cincinnati right now,
I don't know. I don't know. So we'll see, we
will see. I'm still waiting waiting for the other shoe

(18:50):
to drop. All right, let's go to Pat.

Speaker 8 (18:54):
Pat.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
Good morning, you're on the Lincoln Wears Show. How are
you well?

Speaker 9 (18:57):
Good morning to you, Lincoln are I'm surprised. I didn't
think I was going to get on so early. But anyway,
I'm with you. What's going on with Is this a
gentleman that started downtown?

Speaker 5 (19:09):
Guy who did the slapping?

Speaker 1 (19:11):
Oh?

Speaker 9 (19:11):
Okay, So so basically, it's a situation where something is
done to I'm gonna just say, a black person, the
black person reacts, and then we go after the black person,
but we don't go after the person that initially started it.

Speaker 7 (19:31):
Is that what you're saying?

Speaker 2 (19:32):
Well, yeah, I guess they're saying that they reacted, but
they overly reacted.

Speaker 9 (19:37):
Okay, Well, anyway, thanks for taking my call. I just
wanted to give you and the public up up to
date information on what's going on with my dad. But
before I get that, let me start on your topic.
I apologize you were talking about the team curfew. Initially
I thought it was a great idea. However, I was

(19:59):
looking at On nineteen last night, and I don't know
if you watched Channel nineteen or not.

Speaker 7 (20:05):
Everything I watch them all, okay, Well, every segment pertaining
to black folks was a negative coverage.

Speaker 9 (20:14):
I kept waiting for something positive. There's nothing positive going
on in the black community. It's all this gun violence,
and it's constantly in your face. If I'm a young
person and I'm not trying to be funny and someone
was trying to approach me a total stranger, I'm not

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so sure I would react to the way that they
wanted to. And is this curfew going to be challenged
across the board?

Speaker 3 (20:43):
Meaning?

Speaker 10 (20:44):
Is it just is the NATTI?

Speaker 11 (20:46):
Is it city wide?

Speaker 9 (20:48):
Statewide? I mean, what's going on with that? A better
solution would be, how about we find something for these
kids to do.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
There's plenty of them things for them to do in
the rec centers all throughout the city. So don't give
me that.

Speaker 9 (21:07):
I'm talking about. We got to think out of the box.

Speaker 5 (21:09):
Why not Please tell me I'm interested to hear what.

Speaker 9 (21:13):
Well, if you let me speak, I'll get to my point.
The point is, how about they get a chance to
go down and meet some of the actual Bingal players.
How about they earn their way to maybe uh go
on a shopping trip to the mall where they can
get their latest gym, shoes or something. We got to

(21:34):
do something other than the same old, same old.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
Who's going to take them to the mall to get
their shoes?

Speaker 9 (21:42):
Well, there can be the public. We are the public.
We can sign up and adopt someone. Why not have
an adoption program where they could enter.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
Hold on, these kids are not orphans. They have parents
somewhere at home or somewhere. They have parents.

Speaker 9 (21:59):
They can everyone has a parent that's involved. Okay, okay, okay,
But anyway, let me get the up to date.

Speaker 3 (22:08):
For my dad.

Speaker 9 (22:09):
I go real quick because you got a lot of listeners.
So anyway, I went down the court yesterday and I
got a lot of pushbacks from the prosecutor's office. That's
why I'm making this public. First of all, I don't
need someone telling me about my behavior. There is nothing
wrong with my behavior, and this is.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
Probably how are you behaving down there?

Speaker 5 (22:30):
I don't know.

Speaker 8 (22:31):
I mean, well, I'm.

Speaker 9 (22:33):
About to tell you I went downtown yesterday because I
had a court date and I was in the hallway
and before I could even get in the courtroom, the
prosecutor was shoving papers in my face. I didn't even
get to look at them. That's not how you approach people.
Do you see what I'm saying? And I think this
is what's happening with some of the youth on the street.

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They're being approached in aggressive manner.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
I'm not I would say the women police officers are
the ones who you know, are not as aggressive as
the men are. Women can sort of rationalize and kind
of deal with situation. Men that testosterone is flowing and
they're ready to go in at ten, where women normally

(23:21):
go in at four or five, and they're able to,
you know, solve the situation a lot better than men can.

Speaker 9 (23:29):
Well that might be. I'm just saying, we have to
have community a different approach, and so I brought it
to you, the public. I don't know what you're experiencing.
I just gave you one of my experiences. I just
told you and gave you some solutions as far as
how we can be these kids.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
Wait a minute, hold on, hold.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
On, I'm not going to let you just keep going
on without me stopping you. Okay, stop right there. First
of all, I don't like your plan of giving them
something to do. There's plenty of things for them to do.
Anybody can go to the Bengal workouts when they have them,
when they when they're scheduled. They can go down there
down their own and see the Bengal players and see

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all that they can do. That. As far as taking
them to the mall buying them shoes, that's for the print.
We collected shoes for kids twist sending. I don't know
how many hundreds and hundreds of kids with sending the
school on the first day with brand new shoes here
at the station, and we're gonna have an event where
we give them out. So I mean, I mean you
want to I don't know what you're trying to do.

(24:29):
These kids gotta be take responsibility for their own actions.

Speaker 9 (24:35):
Well, Thencoln keep getting the same results and we'll keep
watching Channel nineteen.

Speaker 12 (24:39):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
There's plenty of other channels. There's chel Local twelve, there's
nine where nine stands for news, There's News five.

Speaker 5 (24:48):
Did I miss anybody?

Speaker 2 (24:50):
I mean, you don't have to watch Fox nineteen if
they're only giving you negative stuff.

Speaker 5 (24:57):
There's other channels, you know. Oh boy, Shore, I tell you.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
And that was the first call. That was the first
call of the day. Where am I going to be
at one o'clock? Let's take a break. Let's take a break.
Twelve thirty the buzz to play this song for the
Ride and Groom. That was their first song. Yes, I

(25:26):
don't know what they danced to the day, but that's
what they did back in the day. That would always
be their first request. Make sure we come out to
do our first dance. You play heat wave always in forever?
I said, all right, got it down. They listened to
what the helly today?

Speaker 5 (25:44):
Oh? What the helly? Yes, unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
All right, let's go to Brent. Brent, what's going on?

Speaker 13 (25:54):
Not that much like n How are you doing today?

Speaker 5 (25:56):
I'm hanging in there. What's on your mind?

Speaker 13 (26:00):
The other day you were saying the jasmine hiding wo.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
No, No, she's not in high I just said, where
is she? I mean she's out there, but I just
haven't seen her. Okay, I just said I haven't seen her.
She's hid, hiding from please, But she has no reason
to hide because she's not in the Texas legislature and
uh she's you know, she's a US representative, so she

(26:28):
has no reason to hide.

Speaker 13 (26:29):
So yeah, but that's not the way. That's not what
you were saying yesterday.

Speaker 12 (26:33):
Okay, okay, because all right.

Speaker 5 (26:35):
Okay, yeah, you're right. I said that. Jesus.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
I'm making sure because you were talking about her hiding.

Speaker 13 (26:42):
With grand you know, Greg Blandsman could have cleared.

Speaker 14 (26:45):
That up for you.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
Well, let me just let me say your state, the
state that you live in, is out of control.

Speaker 5 (26:53):
That's all I got to say.

Speaker 11 (26:55):
Yeah, no doubt.

Speaker 13 (26:55):
About it, saying with the states there that you live
there out of.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
We're not as out of control as you got. Matter
of fact, hold on, Brent, I want you to listen
to something about what they're doing in Texas when it
comes to you know, remember when they started that cat
litter rumor that kids were going to school dressed as
cats and they gave them cat litter.

Speaker 13 (27:17):
But this story for Rick Junior, since he never talked
about Texas.

Speaker 5 (27:21):
But I hold on and listen, hold on, go ahead.

Speaker 15 (27:25):
Can you name a school where it has been confirmed
that students are using litter boxes?

Speaker 2 (27:30):
Uh?

Speaker 16 (27:30):
Well, what we do with this bill is we prevent
that from from happening.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
But what we don't take out?

Speaker 15 (27:39):
Well, can you name a school where it has been
confirmed that students are using litter boxes? This was at
the top of your press release, This was mentioned when
you introduced this bill created quite a stir So I'm asking,
can you name a school where it's been confirmed that
there are litter boxes being provided to students for this purpose?
I know I cannot. You're tweet about this bill was

(28:01):
flagged by the app itself under their community notes and
their fact checks said, sensationalist claims about furries literally behaving
as animals and receiving accommodations such as litterboxes have been
repeatedly debunked as hoaxes. Is that correct?

Speaker 2 (28:19):
It was flagged on what is it?

Speaker 9 (28:21):
Community notes?

Speaker 5 (28:22):
Okay.

Speaker 15 (28:24):
I find it concerning that these types of debunked conspiracy
theories are being used by politicians at the highest levels
of our government, including in this legislature, who know that
they're incorrect. Are youware that Governor Abbot said, quote, kids
go to school dressed up as cats with litter boxes
in their classrooms.

Speaker 8 (28:44):
Sure?

Speaker 15 (28:45):
Are you also aware that when the governor was asked
by the Dallas Winning News to name a single school
where this happened, he couldn't, and PolitiFact called this a
pants on fire false claim started by online rumors. Okay,
do you think it's a good use of our time
to write laws based on debunked internet conspiracy theories?

Speaker 7 (29:03):
Well, this isn't.

Speaker 15 (29:05):
This piece of legislation before us covers that among other
things that.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
Are true.

Speaker 15 (29:16):
My concern is that instead of holding a hearing about
student mental health, instead of holding a hearing about school
closures across Texas, we are spending precious legislative time toward
the end of this legislative session on a build called
the Furries Act. And honestly, repsent of gurtis this whole

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thing is just weird and honestly a little creepy. And
I think that's the point, because this is all, in
my opinion, a manufactured, debunked smear campaign against our Texas
public schools. Governor Rabbitt has used this litterbox rumor to

(29:58):
paint our schools in the worst possible light. He even
used the litterbox conspiracy theory to push his private school
voucher bill.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
These culture war attacks.

Speaker 15 (30:09):
Are nothing more than an effort to discredit our public
schools to justify defunding those public schools. Texas librarians are
not grooming kids, Texas teachers are not indoctrinating kids, and
Texas schools are not providing litterboxes.

Speaker 5 (30:22):
Unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
And I will admit we had the Haitians eating dogs
and cats here in Ohio, so we're not too far
off from you, Brent.

Speaker 13 (30:32):
Yeah, that was James tell Erico. He's a state rep
out of Boston, and that was four months ago.

Speaker 5 (30:36):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yes.

Speaker 13 (30:39):
But yeah, let's speaking with racist things that folks say
with Donald Trump with the eating the cats and they're
in Springford, Ohio and called in you know, craphole countries
with black folks and still won't apologize for the Central
Park five. Do you think it's him given pardons to
rappers an entertainer make them You're not such a bad guy.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
No, no, okay.

Speaker 13 (31:04):
So with that being said, given Nautica gym shoes to
for the.

Speaker 11 (31:09):
School program, or for the school giveaway. It doesn't absolve
the racist.

Speaker 3 (31:14):
Of the.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
Okay, I know who you're talking about. I know you're
talking about Craig, but we appreciate Craig and his wife
were donating those shoes.

Speaker 13 (31:24):
You take those Nautica shoes and you try to give
them to your grandchildren and look how they look at you.
Oh please, trying to get them kids beat up at
that school.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
Yeah, look, you want new shoes or you want to
go with the old ones, simple as that. It comes
down to that you want to go with it's for
some families, you're going with the shoes you ended the
school year with last year, or you want these new Nauticas.
Guess who they'll take the Nauticas every day.

Speaker 12 (31:49):
Oh if you say so.

Speaker 13 (31:50):
But yeah, get you some of that comfy lotion and
comfy tea from mister Leonard, and will get you some
dandelions for Reverend Shannon and I'll have you in tiptop
saving no time.

Speaker 5 (31:59):
So watermelon rine.

Speaker 8 (32:01):
There you go.

Speaker 13 (32:02):
Yes, so you know what to do.

Speaker 11 (32:03):
You're just not doing.

Speaker 13 (32:04):
You want to take annibiotics.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
Unbelievable, all right, thanks for your ca Okay, unbelievable.

Speaker 5 (32:11):
Uh, let's take a break and then we'll come back.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
Vernon Nettie White liar and Bill I'll hold him on
twelve thirty the buzz, it's Lincoln. Where it is Wednesday?

Speaker 5 (32:23):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (32:23):
It did?

Speaker 5 (32:24):
Bengals play tomorrow? Can you believe it?

Speaker 2 (32:26):
And guess what? Shdear Sanders is starting for Cleveland tomorrow. Yes,
he started off as the last quarterback. They talked about
cutting him. Now he's gonna be the Uh. Normally they
don't start the starter in the first preseason game, but
I think the Bengals are they gonna start Joe Burrow.
But if Sanders shows any signs of he's an NFL quarterback, Uh,

(32:50):
something's gonna happen that Cleveland's gonna have to move him,
trade him or something or something's going on there.

Speaker 5 (32:56):
Yeah, so let's keep our fingers for him.

Speaker 7 (33:02):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
But when they play the Bengals the first game of
the season, then hey, go get him. If he's starting,
go go sacking, make him fumble, intercepting, do all the
things that you would do for a rookie quarterback. But
I don't think he'll be starting. I think it'll be
Flacco starting in the Bengals opener with the Cleveland Brownies. Yes,

(33:29):
all right, let's go to Bill. Bill, what's up?

Speaker 8 (33:35):
Oh?

Speaker 12 (33:35):
Not a whole lot, man, I tell you.

Speaker 14 (33:39):
This curfew.

Speaker 8 (33:40):
I'm gonna tell you up front.

Speaker 12 (33:41):
It's not gonna work.

Speaker 8 (33:42):
Okay, why not? Why won'ts are? And you know these parents,
you know they right along with them?

Speaker 2 (33:53):
Well okay, how can the parents if your kid is
out past eleven and he's under eighteen?

Speaker 17 (34:00):
Right?

Speaker 8 (34:00):
You know how it is coming?

Speaker 14 (34:03):
Tonti. Oh boy, you know he's gonna put a spin
on things because I can see the Trump monk. He's
coming out supporting me in.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
Twin to Sweeden Autumn.

Speaker 14 (34:14):
Looking telling him as a messiah. No, I don't think so,
but uh, I do want to move on and ask questions,
when does me my star perform on the Black Family
Unit Saturday night? And what's time?

Speaker 2 (34:29):
Say what say that again? Midnight Star? I mean it's
probably around I would say around six they would start.

Speaker 8 (34:39):
Okay, Yes, all right, Ernie is coming, Yes, coming out,
Martin Luther King Jr.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
Be here for the Black Family Reunion.

Speaker 8 (34:49):
Also, that would definitely be a.

Speaker 14 (34:53):
Spiritual lifting.

Speaker 5 (34:55):
Definitely.

Speaker 14 (34:56):
Yes, Hey you keep that music popping, bron You're doing it,
You doing it?

Speaker 8 (35:01):
I have my Sunday soul requests.

Speaker 14 (35:03):
Friday, Man, there'll be an interesting one.

Speaker 5 (35:06):
Oh boy, all right, we'll see five.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
Thanks for your unbelievable, unbelievable All right, let's go to Vernon, Vernon.

Speaker 11 (35:13):
What's up on Lincoln?

Speaker 5 (35:16):
How you doing?

Speaker 11 (35:17):
I'm going all right, bro so up in the blood
out of the LOOPERMT vacation. How did the Klan rally
go that they had down to Jim and Jacks? How
did that work out?

Speaker 2 (35:25):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (35:25):
It was just a political rally.

Speaker 11 (35:27):
Right right, didn't give a damn about what was really
going on in the city, just the opportunities for them
to just to dog.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
Out the dog the current administration out and you know,
positioning themselves to you.

Speaker 11 (35:41):
Put up dumb ass Chris Millerman to sit there and
look like a fool, knowing full well they wouldn't let
him be a dog catcher.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
Well I think he might be. I ain't at Lieutenant
Governor's slot.

Speaker 11 (35:53):
Yeah, well, well he's gonna be too dark. You know,
it's only they're both going to figure that out when
they ask you start trying to run from something.

Speaker 12 (36:01):
Yeah, you know, uh, the to the.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
Rural areas, the rural areas.

Speaker 11 (36:07):
Uh, they' you know, vote there if they tell you
on national news on the national consecutive station like Fox
News that if you're too dark, they're not they're not
screwing with you. But the reason I actually called was that,
now this curfew, is it just like the Business district

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that they're talking about, the curfew of eleven people.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
It was it was one like at nine o'clock in
the business and over the Rhine district it was nine o'clock,
and then the other areas it was, uh eleven, Okay,
different ones. I don't know which one they're gonna end
up voting on, but we'll see.

Speaker 11 (36:48):
Well something like that. It's simply not going to work.
And I'll tell you why you cannot parent someone else's kids.
City council is not nobody's parents. Now, when you start
grabbing these kids and you start moving taking them to
twenty twenty and this, that, and then you're gonna here
come no grown mama, here come to mama. And if
it's one kid, we don't see it. With the little

(37:10):
water boys, remember the water boys, they were simply selling water.
That whole thing blew up, Yes, it blew up, because
you're dealing with somebody else's offspring. And that's the thing
that when I hear let's give them one thousand dollars
for what you might give you a damn thing. That's
your child.

Speaker 3 (37:28):
You.

Speaker 11 (37:29):
If you raise your chill instead of having someone else
raise your child, then that's your problem.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
Yeah, I see what I mean. I see what jan
Michelle is trying to do, but it's not I don't
think it's Uh. I see what she's trying to do.
And then she said they have to earn it. Uh,
they have to go through different levels and to get it.
But yeah, I think it's just too much. It didn't
ever work. And I don't think she's gonna get a

(37:56):
whole lot of support on counsel for that.

Speaker 11 (37:59):
And in tax barriers right now, we're getting slammed left
and right with taxes. Ain't nobody trying to give them
your kid, your badass kid, no money to act like
they have some sense. No, if you raise them, maybe
they'll have some sens because you can't control a child
once they get seventeen, eighteen, nineteen years old and get
out of your house. You ain't got no patrol. And

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even if you do raise them the right way, you
still have no control over the decisions that they make.
They have to be able to think for themselves and
make their own decisions. Just got to hopeful day that
they'll make the right decision. So city council has nothing
to do with child. We're I keep seeing this thing.
It takes the village. No the hell, it doesn't take

(38:41):
a village. It takes a parent. Don't need to because
I was raised by one.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
Why no.

Speaker 11 (38:47):
But it takes some ass whippings, it takes some structure
and some discipline. That's how you raise a kid. And
even then, you still don't know what you're gonna get
once they get outside your house. So all this, you know,
give them a thousand dollars, just give them some gym shoes.
And I mean, that's the silliness, you know, And it's
what actually has been done in the past. And as

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and as the lady said, well, you're watching the news
and you see only black people doing stuff I don't.
I'm not worried about what I see on the news.
It's not me, Yeah, you know, I'm not. You know,
it's not my kids is out there. So I'm not
worried about you know, what I'm doing the news right
when that's all.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
But when that's all white people see, then when they
see you, they think you you know, they think about
the news when they see you. Verdict. Yeah, oh there's
a black guy. You know, he's violent.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
You know.

Speaker 11 (39:40):
Yeah, oh yeah. Actually, if you if you're smart about
where you conduct yourself out there, you can use that
to your advantage. I've had a time but I tell
you a while back when a guy I just took
a nap and uh uh state trooper came up to
the truck and he saw me. He waved his hand,
he walked away. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (40:02):
Yeah, So all.

Speaker 11 (40:04):
Right, brother, I'll see you. How So, I'm on vacation
this week, so I'll see you next week at the
walking club.

Speaker 5 (40:09):
All right, okay, all right, all right, bro, we'll talk
to you.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
That's burning and uh yeah, we had a good walk
this past week. We'll be back again Saturday morning, eight
thirty Winton Woods, the Lincoln Ware Walking Club. Come on
out and walk with us. Yeah, we had some great walks.
I'm telling you.

Speaker 5 (40:30):
All right, let's go to Miss Nettie.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
Miss Nettie, how you doing.

Speaker 10 (40:37):
Greeting to you from beautiful Lincoln I yes, yes, yes, right,
And the Lady of Walking talk Sharan where the first lady,
Oh my god, into you Lincoln and to the real
Terrence howt on the ones and twos? Oh, yes, I
don't care about it. Hey, I put it like this, Okay,

(40:58):
we want to marry out here. Okay, but guess what
we was the ones? They say we were the ones
that voted that they would pick a mayor among themselves.
So now I call the Board of Elections and they
told me that we can have that put on the ballots. Yeah,
next year, so that we can vote for our mayor.

(41:20):
Ken you dig it?

Speaker 5 (41:23):
Yeah, I can.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
Now, don't you have to go? Don't they have to
like get so many signatures or something like that?

Speaker 3 (41:28):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (41:30):
That, Yeah, Well you got to get somebody to start that.
You just can't say, Okay, that's what we're gonna do.
Somebody got to take control and actually do it.

Speaker 10 (41:39):
Well I'll do it. If I say i'll do it,
I'll do it.

Speaker 5 (41:43):
How you gonna do it?

Speaker 2 (41:44):
And you got to go down to the Board of
Elections and get some petitions and do all kinds of stuff.

Speaker 10 (41:50):
Well, I'll do it. Girls down there. I talked to
both of them. Yes, remember Ava used to work with you.

Speaker 5 (41:57):
Yeah, miss Ava yes, yes.

Speaker 10 (42:00):
And I talked to miss Karen, so I know what
to do. Okay, Yes, Now, prayer, y'all, we always talk
in prayer. Prayers still works. Okay, we need to get
out there and do some praying. Hey, that white buy
down there to hit the wrong person. I put it

(42:21):
like this. We need. Only way you're gonna get locked up?

Speaker 1 (42:25):
Is you pray?

Speaker 4 (42:27):
Right?

Speaker 10 (42:28):
Oh God, that's good? But hey, well all right, miss Natty,
and I want to say hello to Hank and his
beautiful bride, Hank Stephens.

Speaker 5 (42:42):
All right, big man Hank, up.

Speaker 10 (42:44):
Those studding no mess. Make me call the first lady.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
How I started it? Said big man Hank. How does
that starting mess? Unbelievable?

Speaker 10 (42:53):
Well, everyone out there, even to the white line, Hey boy,
y'all call I'm a liar, right, yes, but there's some
truth in every lie.

Speaker 5 (43:03):
Oh boy? All right?

Speaker 10 (43:05):
And oh to whatever's outer telling tales on.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
Me, prayer he'll work.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
Who told the tale on you?

Speaker 10 (43:13):
Well, I'll put it like this, okay, I know that
they've been lying. I'll tell you this what. Prayer still works?

Speaker 5 (43:21):
All right?

Speaker 10 (43:22):
God bless and I love you and prayer. I'm gonna
pray for the ones that talk.

Speaker 5 (43:27):
About me, all right, pray for him.

Speaker 2 (43:30):
I gotta get I gotta go. Thanks for your card.
I think she's been in that bottle this morning. She
was all awfully talkative. Yes, let's break the news. We'll
come back, White Liar Ray Special K and others. Holding
on twelve thirty the buzz till one o'clock this afternoon

(43:54):
and coming up in one Rivenow shopping keeping it real,
keeping it real, all right? Uh, oh, Tarn't you forgot
your comfy lotion yesterday? You left it in the studio there.
You know, I figured out I forgot something very important yesterday.
On my way home.

Speaker 5 (44:10):
I said, there's something missing here that's very important. And
it was that comy loan.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
And thank you for pointing it out, mister ware.

Speaker 5 (44:17):
All right, I knew you would miss it, so I
wanted to let you know where it was, all right.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
Uh. Indiana is rolling out their new license plates called
the blackout Plate. The plate is going to be completely
black and then your license number is white. And it
looks kind of it's not bad looking, you know. The
plate is just solid black and then white letters. I
don't know, it might be okay, but Indiana's going to

(44:45):
roll it out, and I think of Kentucky.

Speaker 5 (44:48):
Also Kentucky.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
Indiana's joining Kentucky in several other states and offering a
fashionable new option to customize your car a blackout license plate. Yeah,
and uh the plate offers a clean bowl, sleek, new look,
and it might not be that bad. Maybe OHII will

(45:14):
get one one of these days. Who knows.

Speaker 5 (45:17):
All right, let's go to the white liar, white liar.

Speaker 13 (45:23):
That is absolutely racist that they would make that plate black,
and then the most important part white.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
Thanks for your call. See see that he started off wrong.
He started off It's like coming in at ten. There's
no place else to go. There's no place else to go. Okay,
I'm going to assume he was trying to make a joke.
I know he was. I don't like his jokes. I
don't like his joke. I don't like his jokes. All right,

(45:52):
special K.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
How are you hello?

Speaker 5 (45:55):
How you doing?

Speaker 7 (45:57):
I'm doing fine. This is the first time I've called
in this year, oh man. Yeah, but I listened every day.

Speaker 5 (46:07):
Yeah, and I think I.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
Saw y out at the walking club, didn't I see
you one Saturday?

Speaker 7 (46:12):
Somebody somebody mistook me for somebody else.

Speaker 8 (46:14):
But it's all good.

Speaker 7 (46:17):
Somebody thought you a lady c Yeah, yeah, that was
that was interesting. But anyway, so yeah, I've been listening
all year, and I'm one of those black women. I'm
a grandmother who has chosen to sit.

Speaker 10 (46:35):
Back and watch.

Speaker 7 (46:36):
I don't know if you remember the conversation a couple
of months ago asking if black women had checked out.
I'm one of those black women because I'm not putting
this unnecessary drama on my plate.

Speaker 8 (46:48):
I refuse.

Speaker 7 (46:50):
Okay, regarding the curfew, which is the reason I called in,
we don't need city council. The previous caller was correct.
We don't need them telling us how to raise our children.
That's our responsibility. I have three children that I raised
single parent, and I had a curfew in place from
day one. Yes, and I was very successful in raising

(47:14):
my children. I'm very proud of that. Three productive adults
doing the right thing. Again, Okay, here's here's my issue.
If I've seen as young as fourteen years of age
be tried as an adult. Yes, so if you're out

(47:35):
on the curfew between fourteen and eighteen, you're considered a child.
But if you commit a crime, a serious crime, somebody
charged as an adult So which is it either you're
a child or you're an adult seventeen and eighteen.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
Well, now at seventeen a legal adult like eighteen eighteen,
you consider at.

Speaker 7 (48:02):
The age of seventeen, the system can charge your child
as an adult. They can do it as young as fourteen.
It's been done.

Speaker 5 (48:09):
Well, yeah they can. Yeah, they can charge as they hold.

Speaker 7 (48:12):
The goal post whenever it's convenient for them. It's the parents'
responsibility to set that curfew and have their and have
their child in the house. Now, if the child sneaks out,
that's a totally different story. Yes, but it's the parents' responsibility,
not city council. And we pay taxes, not for our
tax money to go to people to not do the

(48:32):
right things. Where she got that from.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
It's out of control now, so city council has to
do something. Parents don't seem like we can control it.

Speaker 5 (48:40):
They can control it.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
So now council has to make sure your kids off
the street at the proper time.

Speaker 7 (48:49):
I am so sick of politicians, whether it's local up
in Columbus, up in Washington, I am so sick of
the so called profession not having common sense. Yeah, and
that's what it comes down to because there's a lot
of stuff on the table that makes absolutely no sense

(49:09):
and I refuse to enter to allow that to enter
my place of peace.

Speaker 5 (49:14):
So you don't like the curfew, the curfew.

Speaker 7 (49:18):
It's one thing to have a curfew, which they've had
for the last couple of years, but if you don't
implement the curfew, then it doesn't it's worthless. But saying
that a seventeen or eighteen year old is a child
with a curfew, that's not city Council's responsibility. That's the parents.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
Well it's seventeen, not eighteen. When you're eighteen, you can
be out. There's no curfew.

Speaker 7 (49:43):
If you're eighteen at seventeen you can be charged as
an adult. Yeah okay, so again this is the parent's responsibility.
If the police seat again this curfew, we're going around
in circles. It's nothing but circle and they don't know
what to do. They're getting paid a salary and they're

(50:03):
not using common sense. Whether they have raised any children,
I don't know, but common sense is the core. What
happened two weeks ago was shocking. What happened last year
with the young man getting attacked down on the square
by the kids was appalling. I didn't see city council

(50:25):
do anything about that. Miss Irish Rowley has been downtown
trying to help those kids. What do city council do
for those children? For that young man? And then there
was the middle aged white man that got attack downtown?
What do they do? This is all politics being blown
out of proportion, vivid Ramaswami. They done told this man

(50:45):
to his face, we will never vote for you because
of the way you look. Right, is nothing but a
booboo show.

Speaker 14 (50:54):
I don't want.

Speaker 3 (50:54):
To That's all that was the other day.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
Well, I think since he got the thumbs up from
Donald Trump, he thinks that the white folks will look
over look past his color since Donald Trump gave him
the thumbs up.

Speaker 7 (51:08):
I'm gonna say this, I feel from what I've seen,
and I work from home, so I hear and see
a lot on the news. Donald Trump was chosen by
the Republican and the Democratic Party to do what they
were not willing to do. He is being used and
that's why he's getting away with a lot of what

(51:29):
he's doing. He's being used to change policy that affects benefits.
They've been wanting to cut those entitlements for decades, someone
who doesn't give a damn to do it. Yes, and
that's all it is. They've been wanting to It's starting

(51:51):
to trickle down to prevent people from buying chips and
snacks and pop with food stamps. They've been wanting to
do that for years. They want just they wann't bold
enough to stand up and and and do it. Here
comes Trump.

Speaker 5 (52:09):
All right, well I hear you, special K.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
I appreciate your call, and don't check out on us yet.

Speaker 7 (52:15):
Oh no, I'm paying attention. I'm just not letting it
consume my place of peace.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
I refuse all right, special K, thanks for your car.
All right, that special K. She says she's not going
to check out yet, but she hates the idea that
the council in the city has to raise your kids
put the curfew in there. But with today's you, I

(52:46):
think they're a lot different from yesterday's you. Some people
say they're no different from yesterday's you. I don't know.
I think they are. They've got a whole new set
of challenges. They got a hold that you got the
social media, which changes the whole dynamic. We didn't have

(53:10):
social media, so we didn't we You know, we can
communicate like they do nowadays. It's a whole different ball
game for these kids nowadays. And I guess when you
stir it all up, this is what you get, you know,
this is what you get.

Speaker 3 (53:28):
Ray.

Speaker 11 (53:30):
What's up, Blake?

Speaker 5 (53:31):
How you doing?

Speaker 12 (53:32):
I'm glad you cut the white lion off? Maybe he'll
learn his left Yeah, licked Ramaswami. You don't know Ken Blackwell,
does he?

Speaker 18 (53:42):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (53:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 12 (53:44):
Uh yes, His only issue was he was black.

Speaker 5 (53:49):
Yep.

Speaker 12 (53:50):
And and Ramaswami is something else and so and smith
Man should know that. So smith Man, he's putting his
ties in with with a loser a couple of things.
The curfew is a good thing. These kids are out
of control. But Lincoln, when word got out when we
were kids, we ran the street, but we didn't act
a fool. You know, word got out that there was

(54:12):
a house party. If you lived in Silverton, there was
a house party in Bonn Hill. You know, kids from
Silverton went there. So word gets out. It may not
get out as much as it does now with social media,
but the word got out and the folks from Kenadyan
Heights and Silverton, you know, we were at their house
party in Bonn Hill, and they were at our house
party in Canadian Heights and Silverton, so word gets out.

(54:36):
But Lincoln a couple things. There was this white guy
that was on the run for about four or five
days for killing four family members. He was captured yesterday, right,
say that again. This white guy who had killed four
people from the same family was on the run for
about four or five days. They captured him yesterday.

Speaker 5 (54:55):
Yes in Atlanta, I think it was.

Speaker 3 (54:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (54:57):
Channel nine showed it for thirty seconds. There was a
neo Nazi rally fight. It was a riot. They were
beaten protesters. Channel nineteen showed it thirty seconds. Ain't heard
nothing since you no, And I'm tired today's showing this
what happened here in Cincinnati when all other crimes committed

(55:19):
by whites goes unseen and unnoticed, and if you see it,
it's just a footnote or a thirty second clip, you know,
And so it's just just but I will say this,
the white guy that who slapped the guy in the
red you know, at some point, and I'm putting on
my lawyer's hat, he's gonna have to testify, yeah, you know,

(55:42):
So wherever he is he's gonna have to come back
to court, and maybe they're trying to arrest him again.
Have you ever thought that since he's from Russia, you know,
the Russian embassy got something to do with I don't know.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
He's been arrested before in Cincinnati, so I don't think
that has anything to do.

Speaker 5 (56:00):
If he was arrested once, he can be arrested again.

Speaker 12 (56:03):
Yeah. So, but they can't find him.

Speaker 2 (56:05):
Right the fang man arrested him. I think they can
find him. They know right where he is, I'm pretty sure.
But I don't know why they refused to charge him
with with assault or whatever something.

Speaker 12 (56:19):
Yeah, yeah, well link it just curfew? What does it
just covers the downtown business community?

Speaker 8 (56:24):
Right?

Speaker 12 (56:25):
What just curfew?

Speaker 2 (56:27):
No, it's the whole city city?

Speaker 1 (56:29):
Why yes?

Speaker 12 (56:31):
Okay, okay, because I thought they had mentioned the bank.

Speaker 5 (56:34):
Well that was that was a nine o'clock curfew for that. See.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
And it's two versions of the two versions of this,
and I don't know which one they're gonna vote on,
but we'll find out UH today.

Speaker 12 (56:48):
But let me ask you this. When you had the
juvenile court judge juvenile judge on UH last week, which
I was on the line, you failed to come even
with the twin that what the hell does twin have
to offer?

Speaker 1 (56:59):
Now?

Speaker 2 (57:00):
My god, I just didn't get to you. You're not
gonna get on every time. I have a guess, sometimes
you might get missed. And that was one of the times.

Speaker 12 (57:08):
Okay, okay, okay, But let me ask you this because
I would have asked her. These badass kids that's down
there juvenile detention or twenty twenty, have they ever thought
about taking them on a tour to prison to see
what their lives will be like five, ten, fifteen years
from now if they don't act.

Speaker 2 (57:24):
Up right now?

Speaker 8 (57:26):
I don't I think.

Speaker 12 (57:27):
I don't think that would be a good It.

Speaker 5 (57:28):
Might be a good idea, It might be good.

Speaker 2 (57:30):
I don't know. But it's prison, that is it gonna be.
And they're gonna look and say, oh, this is horrible.
I don't want to do this. I don't know. They're
gonna see people working out, they're gonna see TVs in
there they you know, I don't know.

Speaker 12 (57:42):
And they're gonna see them behind the gates, guys in
their twenties, thirties, forties, fifties, and.

Speaker 5 (57:47):
They're gonna see that.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
Yeah, they'll see that but I don't know if it'll
change anything or that.

Speaker 5 (57:52):
I don't know.

Speaker 12 (57:52):
Well, if it'll let them know where they're gonna be
if they don't act up.

Speaker 7 (57:56):
You know.

Speaker 12 (57:56):
I'm just saying, you know, and you're paying these kids
a thousand dollars. I can see some of new parents say,
go out and knocked up, make us some money. You
know one thing about black folks, Lincoln will resili resilient.
If there's a way to make money, black folks will
make it. So these badass kids with these parents that
don't care and need money, they'll just say, go out

(58:19):
and knocked up and bring bring me back a thousand dollars.
You don't think something like that is in the back
of a parents mind.

Speaker 5 (58:26):
Well what can I say? What can I say?

Speaker 2 (58:29):
I don't know. I don't think anybody gonna say, go
mess up so we can get a thousand dollars. It's
not gonna be as easy as it sounds, believe me.
And is it not gonna just give you a thousand
dollars check and say, okay, don't go shoot nobody again.

Speaker 5 (58:42):
It's not gonna be like that anyway.

Speaker 2 (58:45):
Jam Michelle says she's trying to call in I gave
her the number, and I'm waiting waiting to hear from her.

Speaker 5 (58:53):
From her, but.

Speaker 2 (58:55):
Maybe she'll call in in a few she wants to,
She says, she wants let's see what does she say
to respond to the wrong info about the advanced piece.
But it's busy, and I gave it the right number,
and I still haven't heard from us. So okay, all right,
Oh she online went, Okay, thanks for you call Ray.

Speaker 5 (59:17):
All right, all right, Jan.

Speaker 2 (59:19):
Michelle, hold on one second, let me take a break,
and then we'll come back and talk to you. Let's
take a break. We'll come back twelve thirty the Buzz
your talk station. It's Lincoln where it's Wednesday, and let's
go and talk to my good friend JMLK. Jan Michelle
lemon Kearney, the vice mayor of the City of Cincinnati.

(59:41):
And the Advance Peace Program is probably what we're talking about.
And everybody's all over the news talking about this thousand dollars.
Jan Michelle, let's set the record straight and tell them
what the program is really all about.

Speaker 8 (59:56):
Right.

Speaker 16 (59:56):
Unfortunately, there's a council member who gave this information. It
might be old information, I don't know, but it's not
the way the program works.

Speaker 8 (01:00:03):
Okay, So let me.

Speaker 16 (01:00:04):
Just start by saying, in twenty twenty three in Cincinnati,
we had sixty three gun homicides. In twenty twenty four
in Cincinnati, we had sixty three gun homicides. Shootings are down,
which is wonderful, that is good news. But gun homicide

(01:00:26):
is something we have to get a hold of. We
do not want people dying at the hands of guns.
And furthermore, gun homicides with our young people this year
is up. So this is what our beliefs are telling us.
This is their data. I'm not making this up. And
so we have to really get a hold of gun homicides.

(01:00:49):
That is so important for the safety of our children
and our communities. So Cincinnati does a lot of good work.
You know. We back in a few years ago, this
flowchart came out showing all the great policing work programs,
all the great non policing programs, a lot of good stuff.

(01:01:09):
It's not like we're just starting to get this work done.
And then last year the non policing programs were brought
under the umbrella of Acts for Cincinnati achieving change together
and becoming more robust. So we have more community members
in looking at the five areas that at covers like
thriving neighborhood support for us, you know, mental health, a

(01:01:30):
lot of really good work right, safe storage for guns.
So ACT for Cincinnati is great. But when you look
at cities that are really having a major decrease and
gun homicides. In addition to the wraparound services and the
community services like acpro Sency, they also have a strategic

(01:01:52):
plan to deal with that small group of active shooters
who are wreaking a lot of the havoc. These are
the people who are doing this retaliatory gun violence and
it's out there and we need to get a hold
for them. So when you look at cities where there's
the program Advanced Piece, for example, you do see a
decrease in gun violence. You see Berkeley keeps the data,

(01:02:16):
so this isn't data that's made up by Advanced Piece.
They look at all these cities that have it. Just
a few examples in Richmond, California, which is where it
started more than ten years ago, they're showing a fifty
four decrease in gun violence. In Lansing, Michigan that's had
it a few years, they have a forty two percent
in gun violence, and not gun violence, but gun homicides,

(01:02:37):
specifically gun shooting people who are actually dying. And then
in Orlando, Florida, they're showing a twenty six percent decrease
and they've only had it about two years. To those
of those years, they have already decreased gun homicide.

Speaker 2 (01:02:53):
US said, and their numbers are going down. Now, other
cities have used this and the numbers are going down.

Speaker 16 (01:02:59):
The numbers are going and down.

Speaker 7 (01:03:00):
It works.

Speaker 16 (01:03:01):
So what I'm saying is we have data to show
that this program works. Now people are really hesitant about, uh,
do we want to deal with the active shooters? So
how do we deal with them? It's it's you know,
there are a lot of different pieces of the program,
but one part of it is that there's milestone mapping.
So the folks who are in it, they call them fellows. Well,

(01:03:21):
let me let me start with this. These are not
people coming from the outside into our neighborhoods. To be
a credible messenger, which is what it takes, you have
to be somebody with life experience, who's been on the streets,
who's been there, done that. They know this is the
wrong thing to do. Now, let's see how we can
turn the lives around, transform the lives of people who

(01:03:42):
are doing this havock now. And that it has to
be somebody from Cincinnati, from the neighborhood, from the hood
where folks are. It can't be people coming in from outside.
So that's another thing that people complained about, the thing
about the money. Positive reinforcement works. And so you don't
just hand people money no matter what they do. Like

(01:04:03):
if you reach a milestone, like you maintain a job
that might be a milestone in your life map milestone,
and so yeah, you would get rewarded for that, because
positive reinforcement works. You don't just hand you right, no
matter what you do, you do bad, behave, you still
get you know, you still get rewarded. You only get

(01:04:24):
rewarded when you reach a certain milestone. Let me take
one one point about the program. Let me make one
more point about the program. The credible messengers are out
there twenty four to seven. They have to touch the
fellows in some way and meet them in person, call
them on the phone, you know what, you know, go
someplace with them three times a day, every day of

(01:04:46):
the week. I mean, it's not a part time I'm
going to see you when I mean, this is really
something that transforms people's lives.

Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
Okay, so hold on, hold on, let me just say that.
So you're not just if somebody shoot somebody and they
don't get arrested. But you know, the fellows know they
shot somebody and you say, hey, don't do this again.
You got to do this. You're not just going to
hand them a check for one thousand dollars and they
go run. Now that's what they made. It seem like,
it's seen. It seem like what's.

Speaker 16 (01:05:14):
Happening I know on the news, sound like that, And
that's just ridiculous because that's not if you know anything
about psychology.

Speaker 12 (01:05:21):
One O one.

Speaker 16 (01:05:22):
Positive reinforcement means you have to reinforce the positive behavior.
If you're handing people, you know, a reward every time
they do something, no matter what they do, good or bad,
that's not positive reinforcement. You're just letting them know that
it doesn't matter what they do. That's the opposite of
what the program is. I mean, this program has you know,
daily check in, life map goals, social services, navigation, internship opportunities,

(01:05:45):
group group life skills classes, transformative travel. Well, you have
to go someplace with somebody that you were trying to kill.
You have to go someplace with them after you've gone
through many months of this program and the life Map
milestone allowance, that's the part talking about where people get
get a certain you know, small amount of money, not
like a handful, because they've reached a milestone that's so important.

(01:06:09):
We have to do this. And you know what, we
have tried all this different stuff and we are missing
this one piece that other cities get. They're like, we
need to stop this gun violence, stop the gun homicides.
We are losing our kids. We are losing our children.
And I cannot understand when my colleagues are not standing
with me. Toddie Johnson is you know, God love them.

(01:06:30):
I mean he is just He's like, I get this.
And he's a former police officer. If you look at
the video that I showed you, there's a police officer
on there saying I thought we could police our way
out of Islands, but we can't. And you have to
deal with the small group of people who are active
shooters and the people out there in the street know
who they are.

Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
Now get the counsel.

Speaker 16 (01:06:49):
Today, a messenger can reach them.

Speaker 5 (01:06:53):
Now is this coming to council today? The vote on this.

Speaker 16 (01:06:57):
So yesterday we had there was two of us who were, well,
let me just say, so, what what council did a
while back? They said, okay, we're going to allocate two
hundred and seventy five dollars two hundred seventy five thousand
dollars to this program. Note that they just handed Jeff
Kramer Dane like two million, you know yesterday. But you know,
and I go to for that, I'm like, okay, public Safety,

(01:07:17):
let's do it, but no strings attached, right, But for me,
they said, we're gonna we're gonna give you two hundred
and seventy five thousand dollars for this program, but you
don't get it until you go out there and raise fund.
Please tell me what other council member they've ever done
that too? For whatever program. And we have shown videos,
We've had the owne both and the founder here in

(01:07:38):
Cincinnati twice. We've shown powerpoints of how this works. And
I'll go, well, we don't have enough information. Don't you
know there's something else going on here. I don't know
what it is. I am freaking mad about it. We
are down we've losing people, and we've got something that
the data shows it works and we need it. So
we're pushing forward with it because we're not giving up.

(01:07:58):
I think about the people we lose, and you know,
I talked to some of the moms and some of
the dads and you know, people in the community, and
they're like, we've got to stop this, We've got to
stop this. And I said, I know, I'm gonna I'm
going to keep fighting for you, Scottie Johnson's going to
keep fighting for you.

Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
Well, the mayor has the mayor he says he's not
really in favor of this program. I think I saw
something where he said he's not going to move forward
with it.

Speaker 16 (01:08:22):
No, I have not heard that. When I talked to him,
he said that he was going to call some mayors
in other cities where this where this program is in place,
and so I said, you know, we're able to talk
to any of your colleagues, and he said, yes, this
program works.

Speaker 5 (01:08:37):
Okay.

Speaker 8 (01:08:37):
So I think the.

Speaker 16 (01:08:38):
Mayor is you know, he's with counsel, has said, you know,
you've got to go raise money for it, and so
so that's what we're doing. Okay, But you know, I
feel like the mayor is supportive. You know, the mayor,
I mean he is ready to do innovative things and
you know, creative things. I mean, he is for the community,
he's for stopping violence, and so he is supportive. But

(01:09:01):
the thing what I did yesterday is called rule ten
point eight. And Rule ten point eight means even if
something doesn't pass through committee, it still goes to council.
But you know what, the what the mayor wants to do,
and I totally understand, is like, let's not bring it
back before council unless you.

Speaker 12 (01:09:18):
Have five votes.

Speaker 16 (01:09:19):
All right, Well that's so, that's so he's not against it.
He's just saying, you know, let's not do Rule ten
point eight and you know, overstep the committee unless you
have a majority of counsel who wants to.

Speaker 5 (01:09:30):
Be all right, well we'll see what happens.

Speaker 16 (01:09:32):
Still work and what's still fundraising. We have people who
are interested in supporting and so you know this is
going to happen. Next week. I'm going to Montgomery, Alabama
part of the Advanced Piece program, and you know, and
I'll bring back more information that Terr is going to,
Mitch Morris is going We're going to work with Mitch
Morris's organization in moving this program forward.

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
All right, Vice Man, I got to run amount of town.
But good luck on your program, and I'm glad you
got in to explain you're just not going to hand
out a thousand dollars checks to somebody who's no.

Speaker 16 (01:10:03):
No, it's only when people reach certain life thoughs they
get a small stipend. It's positive reinforcement for good behavior,
and that's what we need to change people's lives. It's
got to change people's lives. It's got to stop these
gun homicides. We've got to save our kids.

Speaker 5 (01:10:18):
All right, thanks for your call, Okay, I appreciate it.
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
That's jan Michelle lemon Kearney betting on the Mini is JMLK.
Let's take a break. Twelve thirty The Buzz this afternoon.
It's Wednesday. That means that it's time for the Dukester.
Let's find out what's cooking today at the Dukester. What's cooking?

Speaker 17 (01:10:37):
Hey, good morning, lingoln it, what's up buzz listeners, and
welcome to Senior Citizen Day at the Duster. Now, folks,
I'm sure I'm not the only one that has noticed
how fast the prices are going up around us, which
means it is extremely important that we say where we can.
That's why we give a four dollar discount to all
seniors fifty five or older every Wednesday at the Dukester Restaurant.

(01:11:00):
And like I say, you're gonna love your meal at
the Dukester. Now, Lincoln, for those folks that have not
picked up the tickets for the Lincoln Court Floor Home
West End Dance, I've got advanced tickets and you know
they're always cheaper when you buy them in advance, right
here at the Dukester Now. On the Dukester's many for
today is our golden sounding cro creds with siffron rice

(01:11:21):
and green beans. Or come on by for a crispy
cassues nuggets with steak fries and coleslaw. Or maybe you'll
have a taste for our big chicken with smoked cabbage
of big beans. My pick for today, Lincoln is our
tender meat loaf with candied yams, collar greens and hot
buttered corn bread. It's your day, seniors, make it a

(01:11:41):
good one. And remember we're not fast foods.

Speaker 8 (01:11:44):
We're good food fast all right.

Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
That's the Dukester right there, in the Summit Plaza on
Reading Road. We'll talk to you tomorrow five one three,
twelve thirty Lincoln, We're with you in the studio with me,
I've got mister David Beard h with the Uh. Let's
see the greatest Cincinnati Realtors Association. Is that right, Relatives
Associations Realtists Association. And we've got mister Marcus Parish with us.

(01:12:09):
Who is the president? All right, welcome to the show.
You got a big golf outing coming up. Tell us
a little bit about that golf outing.

Speaker 4 (01:12:16):
Yeah, be happy to It's a scholarship golf Outing. I
had the privilege in honor of it being named after
me three years ago. And the purpose of the scholarship
is to raise funds for us to help assist individuals
who want to become real estate appraisers, primarily as well
as coming into the business as a real estate agent.

(01:12:39):
And I mean, I tell you it's so important to
have black real estate agents and appraisers out there, because
it's not fair out there in the.

Speaker 2 (01:12:49):
World of real estate, is it? No, not at all.

Speaker 4 (01:12:51):
I've been in the business forty two years as an
agent broker and forty as an appraiser. So I've seen
quite a bit over the years.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
And so when does the golf When does the golf
tournament play take place?

Speaker 4 (01:13:03):
That would be on the fifteenth next week at Sharon
Woods Golf Course, starting at eight in the morning.

Speaker 5 (01:13:09):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
Now, how do they sign up if they want to
get in and participate?

Speaker 5 (01:13:15):
How do people sign up?

Speaker 4 (01:13:16):
They can go to our website and register. At the website,
it has all the information. One hundred dollars to play,
and you can be a sponsor if you'd like to
be a sponsor. But it's an all day event. Not
only will it be golf, but it'll also be probably
bid West as well.

Speaker 5 (01:13:36):
Okay.

Speaker 18 (01:13:37):
And the website is ww dot senserealtests dot com.

Speaker 5 (01:13:41):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:13:41):
Now, how important is this fundraiser? I mean, do you
try to get more black appraisers in school and things
like that?

Speaker 5 (01:13:50):
What does the money go to?

Speaker 18 (01:13:52):
Well, yeah, so we're the purpose of this of this
event is to again as mister Beer stated that, we're
trying to raise scholarship funds for individuals looking to become
real estate agent and real estate appraisers. Currently right now,
one of the major hurdles the African Americans face either
whether they're buying a home or selling a home is
real estate? Is appraisal biasness, right, So in order for

(01:14:13):
us to be able to challenge that, we have to
have a seat at the table. Currently, right now, less
than one percent of appraisers or African Americans. So this
is a great opportunity for an organization on a local level,
international level to be able to provide scholarship funds in
order to increase those numbers of appraisers that look like us,
that represent us, that will be out in the community
to serve the communities that we serve.

Speaker 2 (01:14:35):
And what about the do you serve as mentors for
a lot of these young appraisers that are coming up?

Speaker 5 (01:14:41):
How does that work?

Speaker 2 (01:14:42):
Yeah, we do.

Speaker 4 (01:14:43):
I've mentored a minimum of about ten individuals over the
years who can become license and have their own businesses
even today, and for those coming into the business, getting
a mentor is a difficult thing. Anyone can take classes
and be ready to say I want to be an appraiser,

(01:15:03):
but you can't be an appraiser unless you have experience credits.

Speaker 5 (01:15:08):
Yeah, you only get those experience.

Speaker 4 (01:15:09):
Credits by having a appraiser supervisor. So you either have
to know somebody or get connected in some way.

Speaker 5 (01:15:18):
And that's the major challenge. Okay, okay, all.

Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
Right, I mean and it's so you got a lot
of organizations out there, you know, who support the black
appraisers because it's so important. We've seen so many cases
on TV and radio where people have been given the
wrong appraiser appraisals for their property and then you get
a black appraiser that comes in there and looks at

(01:15:42):
things that they don't look at or for whatever reason,
find out there's thousands and thousands of dollars it was
under praise, under appraise.

Speaker 5 (01:15:51):
Yeah, that's the fact.

Speaker 4 (01:15:52):
And to help on the membership program aspect, I'm a
past president of the National Society of Real Estate PRAY,
which is the largest minority appraisal organization in the country.
It's been around since nineteen fifty seven and is an
affiliate of nay RAB, the National Association of Real Estate Brokers.
We have began a training program. Matter of fact, mster

(01:16:17):
Parish here is one of our initial apprentices in that
program where he will be mentored by an appraiser in
another state and if license in that state Ohio has acknowledged,
they will recognize that and he will almost automatically be
licensed here in Ohio.

Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
Okay, all right, man, I tell you so, how does
I say it? For instance, a senior in high school
wants to get into the appraiser built business. What courses
should he take? Is there a special school? We go
what courses did they take to become an appraiser? Real
easy to figure that and find that out.

Speaker 4 (01:16:56):
Individuals simply goes to the State of Ohio Department of
Commerce Real Estate Division and there's an appraisal link. You
click on that and it gives you step by step
courses required. What it takes from beginning to end to
get a license.

Speaker 5 (01:17:13):
Okay.

Speaker 18 (01:17:13):
And also just within our organization, we have opportunities and
partnerships that we can provide to assist people that are
interested and become real estate appraisers.

Speaker 5 (01:17:22):
Okay, all right, that sounds pretty good.

Speaker 2 (01:17:25):
Once again, go over the golf outing again in a
time place and where people can register.

Speaker 4 (01:17:31):
August fifteenth, eight o'clock Shearon Woods Golf Course and you
would register at the real test website.

Speaker 18 (01:17:40):
Ww dot Cincyretts dot com.

Speaker 2 (01:17:43):
All right, Marcus Parish and David Beard Union Lacey's guy
named Brent Beard by any chance, by the way I am.

Speaker 4 (01:17:51):
By the way, I just found this out in the
last couple of years. He's a second cousin. Okay, all right,
he's down in Dallas, Texas.

Speaker 5 (01:17:58):
That's correct.

Speaker 2 (01:17:59):
Yeah, all right, okay, Well, good to see you guys,
and good luck on the golf golf tournament, golf outing,
and I'm sure it's going to be a great success.

Speaker 5 (01:18:09):
Thank you for having us. All right, Thank you both
for stopping by.

Speaker 2 (01:18:12):
Is there a phone number people can call to the
office or is something that they need more information they
want to join you guys and you know, in real
estate and go to some of the meetings.

Speaker 18 (01:18:22):
Yes, they can reach out to me at five one,
three eight four six eighty one. Also, they can follow
us on Instagram at Senci Realtists and on Facebook. We're
at the Greater Cincinnata Real Tots Association.

Speaker 5 (01:18:34):
All right, sounds good to me. Thank you both for
stopping by.

Speaker 2 (01:18:37):
Thank you.

Speaker 5 (01:18:37):
All right, let's take a break and then we'll come back.

Speaker 2 (01:18:40):
Twelve thirty The Buzz thirty WDBZ, The Buzz of Cincinnati,
your talk station link and where with you. It is Wednesday.
There's a lot going on around the Trice State, the
nation and the world.

Speaker 5 (01:18:54):
Let me tell you.

Speaker 2 (01:18:59):
We were talking to Jan Michelle lemon Kearney. She says,
one of the council members put out misinformation on her plan.

Speaker 5 (01:19:09):
I think it's called the peace what is it? Something
kind of peace plan.

Speaker 2 (01:19:13):
But you're just gonna hand somebody a thousand dollars if
they commit a crime to get them to not commit
a crime. Again, that's not how it works. It's worked
in other cities, this plan, this program, and it brought
the gun violence rate way down. And she thinks of

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the work here in Cincinnati, So we'll see. I don't know,
it's gonna be tough to get it through, but we'll see.
All right, let's talk to Cecil Thomas. Cecil Thomas, how
you doing.

Speaker 3 (01:19:48):
I'm finally can you hope you're doing well? I heard
Jan and and that's fine what she's attempted to accomplish.
But I can go back and give a little bit
of history so that they are counseling and all of
them me to understand exactly what they're dealing with. In
two thousand, I was on the Human Relations Commission at

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the time, and we thought we saw an uptick in homicides.
They were at seventy five, and everybody was all upset
and screaming. Counsel was saying, we need to do something.
And then in two thousand and six we hit record
homicides and it was eighty nine homicides in two thousand
and six. So at that point, I, along with some

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other folks, came up with an effort which was to
SERVE in this thing that I talk about that all
the time. So from two thousand and six, which we
had eighty nine, after SERVE had been in place for
five years, in two thousand and eleven we hit sixty
seven homicides. We brought it down over well over twenty percent.

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When I left counsel in twenty thirteen, SERVE during that
period got cut up, destroyed basically, And now we're back
up in the numbers that are well, we're at the
numbers where I stopped it at in twenty eleven. My
point is that all they have to do is retrofit

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SERVE through juveniles. Sit down with All they gonna do
is sit down with the juvenile judges and say, how
can we replicate what we were doing with the adults.

Speaker 5 (01:21:33):
Why didn't they like Serve? Why didn't they like Serve.

Speaker 3 (01:21:37):
Politics got involved.

Speaker 5 (01:21:38):
Okay, okay, who you know?

Speaker 3 (01:21:41):
Because when you champion something as as as a community
of community turn as crime, when you're safety and all
of that, that really guarantees your reelection because you're you're
doing something that people say, wow, you know what, he
knows what he's doing. We got to keep him there. Well,

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when I in twenty eleven, I remember specifically in twenty twelve,
they knew I was leaving, and then everybody wanted to
come up their own initiative to address crime. So Serve
got moved out of City Hall, it got taken away
from the Human Relations Commission, and it ended up up

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at the Apartnering Center. The staff was cutting go ahead,
and your.

Speaker 2 (01:22:30):
Human Relations Commission seems to be gone, Lincoln.

Speaker 3 (01:22:34):
The Human Relations Commission was the vehicle by which the
people I was sent into the community. These were community
relations monitors that I was sent into neighborhoods, and they
would gauge the heartbeat of that neighborhood, what's going on.
And along with the Serve team, which was fifteen guys

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that we had outn't know seets and jammany sales.

Speaker 13 (01:22:58):
Some would describe it.

Speaker 3 (01:22:58):
She said, well, it's got to be people that uh.

Speaker 2 (01:23:01):
Yeah, uh that won't bi Yeah, yeah, I got it. Yeah,
it's got to be somebody that knows what's going on
out there. You just can't pluck somebody who's been sitting
behind a desk all their life and put them out there.

Speaker 5 (01:23:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:23:13):
I agree with that.

Speaker 3 (01:23:15):
It had to be. It has to be somebody that
can speak the language of these young folks. Yes, as
as our served team was able to speak the language
of those adults. You just some mingo and all those guys. Mitch, Mitch,
the guy that they're talking about now. Mitchell's part of service. Yeah, yeah,
going back then. So why they're all trying to come up?
I just heard they gave one of the council members

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a million dollars to do something.

Speaker 13 (01:23:40):
Two million, man, you're throwing your money away.

Speaker 5 (01:23:44):
Two millions.

Speaker 3 (01:23:46):
You got you? I was told, and we were told
by Professor David Kennedy. He said, and this is who
did the stuff in Boston. He said, you once you started,
you can't started and stop it and start doing other stuff.
You gotta keep it going. And I'll testify right now,

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if we had kept going in two thousand, going from
twenty eleven all the right to where we are now,
we wouldn't be in this mess. I can always guarantee
you we would have retro fitted it to the juvenile's
way back and move it forward so we didn't have
to paint nobody either. I'm not knocking out. Let me
put it to this where we got from jobs I got.

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I said to the city. You all a saying you
can't hot felings, I said, but you got to set
the example. The city has to hot felings. And that's
where that opened that door because we got them hired
on the waste collection. Guys was picking that, you know.
And once I opened that door, then it began to

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move forward because the city was hiring, the business had
started hiring, and we was able to move forward. But anyway,
I'm just saying, man, it cringes when I hear everybody
coming to with all these ideas.

Speaker 2 (01:25:01):
Yeah, and we've already had the idea and they took
it away.

Speaker 3 (01:25:04):
They took it away.

Speaker 2 (01:25:06):
Yes, all right, thank you, there you go. All right, Okay,
that's Cee Somel Thomas and uh upset that they took
serve away.

Speaker 5 (01:25:19):
Yes, all right, let's go.

Speaker 2 (01:25:21):
To the Pharaoh then Joyce, Sister Kelly and others parah,
what's up?

Speaker 1 (01:25:28):
And you got my message yesterday?

Speaker 5 (01:25:31):
Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:25:32):
Yeah, I don't say nothing about it.

Speaker 5 (01:25:34):
Yeah yeah, yeah I got it. I got it. Yeah yeah,
I got it.

Speaker 1 (01:25:40):
You know, today is a historical day in American history.

Speaker 2 (01:25:44):
Eighty years ago today.

Speaker 1 (01:25:47):
Yeah, okay, what happened? Happened? What happened?

Speaker 2 (01:25:50):
They dropped, They dropped the bomb on them. They dropped
the bomb on America.

Speaker 5 (01:25:55):
Some people pronounce Hiroshima. Some people pronounce it's.

Speaker 1 (01:25:59):
Done in the history of the world, dropped an Adam
Bob yes or Hiroshima in Nagasaki, Japan. Those people are
still suffering today from the radiation the ground, in terms
of growing crops, getting cancer, born with one eye up

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of inch, lower six fingers ax type of thing because
of what America did, the only country to ever do
that to a people.

Speaker 2 (01:26:29):
Stop the war. Stop the war.

Speaker 1 (01:26:33):
That's not the that's not the that's not the family.
Rather to stop the war. It's what you did to
a people and what they are still suffering from. But anyway, Nick,
and I heard you speaking about playing for a wedding,
how you had to always play always in every He
waved yes. When I used to play for weddings when

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I was the JA, I had to play two songs
that the couple wanted to hear. You know what.

Speaker 2 (01:27:00):
They were one in a million, No, what in the sky?

Speaker 1 (01:27:06):
Oh okay, let's TeV wonder. Yeah, and uh tonight I
celebrate my love by people. Bryson and rovertaflying yes, yes,
so thinking all of this talk we've been talking about
about U slopping and everything, you know, Black people, we

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have yet to understand what whites are telling us. What
they are telling us. In spite of this white man
smacking a black man, you still don't put your hands
on a white person under no circumstances. I don't care

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if he initiated it or not. You don't put your
hands on white people. That is the message that we
have yet to understand as African people. Like I'll give
you another example, like there are such things as unwritten laws,

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like like boxing, like boxing, professional boxing. I've watched boxing
matches where a white contestine fighting a black contestant. If
that white contestant has that black boxer in trouble, the
referee will allow him to beat on that black man
until he's finally falled that he is fat on his back.

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But when you reverse that, the moment that white man staggers,
the referee stopped because, like I said, unwritten laws, you
don't put your hands on a white person. I'm not
gonna let you beat him to a pope. Another thing I.

Speaker 2 (01:28:49):
Wanted to mention, and what if it's a white person
and they're beating.

Speaker 1 (01:28:54):
Just like another white Okay, they can do that, but
because they're not doing it, you don't allowed.

Speaker 2 (01:29:00):
Because I looked at both women, the women that got
knocked out at the best you know, uh one, the
boat House, the Montgomery and boat House the same way.

Speaker 1 (01:29:12):
And the blacks who've done this, give them the banks
because it's about sending a message you don't put your
hands on white people. The last thing I wanted to say, Lincoln, Yes,
is about culture. You know, I heard somebody on the
radio talking about putting you know, people in nursing homes

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or whatever. Have you ever you've been to nursing home before?

Speaker 3 (01:29:37):
Right?

Speaker 5 (01:29:37):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:29:38):
Have you ever saw a Chinese, any Asian and nursing home?

Speaker 5 (01:29:43):
Let me see you think about it.

Speaker 1 (01:29:46):
No, no you haven't because they don't do that. See,
but we do it. We put our family member, well
you know just that and the other mother so well,
you know what, we'll put it in nursing home.

Speaker 2 (01:29:59):
Well, a lot of times they don't. People have to
work and they don't have anybody.

Speaker 1 (01:30:03):
The relatives, whatever odds becausin somebody has time to be
with that person.

Speaker 5 (01:30:12):
Based on the easier said than done, it's easier said
than done.

Speaker 1 (01:30:16):
Nothing in terms for us thinking is easy. Everything is
hard for us in America. But what I'm saying thinking
is that traditionally and culturally, our parents lived with us
until we still they died. You didn't die in our
nursing home. That's the European concept that we have bought into,

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just like so many other things. Suicide that was unheard
of in our culture. We never did that, but we
do it now. Just like I said about oral sex,
never did means that were tabooed to us back in
the day.

Speaker 2 (01:30:54):
But now you don't know what those Africans did. You
don't know what those Africans did back.

Speaker 1 (01:30:59):
Then in Africa. Here in America, you don't know what
they is taboo, But now it's you know, or sex
is a part of uh it's a prerefuence it now
for making love.

Speaker 2 (01:31:12):
Did you see the Many? Did you see the movie Sinners?

Speaker 1 (01:31:16):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:31:17):
No, okay? And it was back into what what year
was that? I'm not sure, but they were talking about
that stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:31:24):
You need to start identifying. It's our culture. Let that
European have his crazy, insane, free his behavior culture. Identify
with us. Stop relating what this man has put out
there for us, and we accepted and identified with it,

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all because we want to be accepted by him. This
man is no standard for anything that is righteous.

Speaker 2 (01:31:53):
All right, Pharaoh. On that note, I gotta go, gotta
break the news. But just because I haven't seen any
Asians in nursing home, don't mean I haven't been that
many nursing homes, So I can't say for sure whether they'
or not. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I've only
been to maybe three or four different nursing homes, so

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I don't judge that. I can't judge on that. All right,
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