The Lincoln Ware Rewind: December 15, 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:12):
I'm still un a speeding bullet, more powerful on a locomotive,
able to believe tall buildings at a single mound.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Okay, I'm in descried. It's a fairy Lincoln, Lincoln, Lincoln
bingus banana Bana, bengun feed binal Lincoln Lincoln.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
They say this cat Lincoln is a bad mother. We're
just talking about Lincoln.

Speaker 4 (00:41):
Good morning, Cincinnati. Welcome to twelve thirty w DBZ. We
are the buzz of Cincinnati.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
Your talk.

Speaker 4 (00:59):
Stay little Lincoln Wear Show till one o'clock this afternoon.
It is Monday, and I'm very cold Monday morning. Yes,
it is cold outside, let me tell you. And walk
from the parking garage to the car. I mean from
the parking garage to the to the building was not easy,

(01:22):
but I mean it and I'm here, Yes, I'm here.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
Uh. There's a lot going on around the tri State,
the nation, and the world. Where do we start.

Speaker 4 (01:39):
Let's start with my Cincinnati Bengals. Oh boy, oh man.
I mean, you get shut out at home that hardly
ever happens. You get eliminated from the playoffs, and then
the Bengals, the ownership don't even clean.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
The seats off for you what the hell.

Speaker 5 (02:06):
Now?

Speaker 4 (02:06):
I think they cleaned some lower seats off, but they
they I don't they didn't get the upper the club area.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (02:14):
It's just and I can recall in Buffalo they had
a snowstorm before a game.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
They hired people in the neighborhood.

Speaker 4 (02:22):
They were paying them, I don't know how much an
hour or something to come down and clean the seats
for the fan.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
I can remember that. And you so it was on
the news and fans were there cleaning the seats. They
had blown snowblowers, blowing snow off the seats.

Speaker 4 (02:35):
They were doing everything. Why can't they do stuff like
that here? Why are the Bengals so damn cheap? They
only got what was mainly every They are required to
clean the seats off, but their main requirement is to
keep the walkways clear and the area around the stadium
clean for people to get into the stadium. And that's
how the Bengals pretty much did the minimum, as they

(02:59):
do always the minimum. And I finally heard Stephanie Doomers
she was even speaking out about it. What it had
to be bad if Stephanie Demos was speaking out against
the Bengals, who she voted for to get this new
eleven year contract that we paid for most of the stuff.

(03:20):
This was something that Bengals was supposed to pay for
the cleaning of the seats, and you see how well
they did that. Unbelievable. So not only do we have
a horrible team out there, they don't even make it
comfortable for the fans. I'm so glad I didn't go
to the game yesterday, and I wasn't about to get

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out there in that cold for the Bengals. No, no
matter how much I love them and how much I
have invested in them, I wasn't about to get out
there in.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
That cold weather.

Speaker 4 (03:59):
To watch the out of stay right at home in
the warm, And I saw everything I needed to see,
which was not a whole lot. Not a whole lot.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
The play calling sucks running.

Speaker 4 (04:18):
How many times are they gonna run Chase Brown up
to the right side of the line and he gets stopped.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
There's no creative plays, There's just nothing.

Speaker 4 (04:30):
You do these high percentage I mean, you mean these
low percentage passes on fourth down and four running the
ball instead of these high percentage passes.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
In the end zone.

Speaker 4 (04:42):
Just get the first down. Do those high percentage. I mean,
I keep saying hyph percent those low percentage plays when
it's first down, not when it's fourth down. Oh boy.
They asked uff Jamar Chase if there's anything about the
Bengals he would like to change. He says yes, but

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he never did say what it was he wanted to change.
He never did say, which was probably smart not to do.
But I just don't understand that the people didn't want
to work. Did they have enough workers? Could they get
enough workers? They need to come up with a plan

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for next season on snow on a Saturday before Bengals game.
They need to come up with a plan. They need
to have some people. They can call any emergencies to
come in there and clean those seats off or else.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
Just let the people in for free.

Speaker 4 (05:44):
If you're not going to clean the seats, it's cold
enough for you to have to sit on a cold,
wet seat, now.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
You know that's ridiculous. Man.

Speaker 4 (05:59):
I think the Bengals have a window of maybe one
or two more years to get to the super Bowl
with this group. They got to fix a lot of pieces.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
Though.

Speaker 4 (06:09):
They'll get some early round draft choices, that's for sure.
Maybe they can trade them for some decent players. Played
that first round pick for a bonified offensive lineman and
a bonified defensive lineman.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
No, and how about some safeties. We need a whole
lot on this team.

Speaker 4 (06:34):
Dam and their draft picks are going to be really
scrutinized this year after last year. They are going to
be really scrutinized these draft picks that they picked this year.
But the Bengals came through for me. I did have
a little four game parlay that I hit on Sol.

(06:54):
I'm thankful for that. Yeah, a little four game parlay.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
Okay, I can go with that. And did you see
the video.

Speaker 6 (07:05):
Of the.

Speaker 4 (07:08):
Black guy who had stolen the car He pulled up
to the smoke shop in Newtown? The cop comes up,
he knows it's a stolen car. He comes up, opens
the door, tells the guy to get out of the car,
and the guy won't get out the car. The cop
pulls the I don't know whether that was a taser
or a gun he pulled on him, but the guy,
he said.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Don't put don't put that car in reverse. Don't do that,
and the guy did it anyway, backed up, pulled the cop.
The cop was being dragged and the guy pulled back,
and then he pulled up, and then he stopped long
enough to let the police officer get himself untangled from
the car.

Speaker 4 (07:43):
And then he pulled off again and let and then
later on he stopped. But it's cases like this where
you can get shot. Remember the what was that Clifton,
the guy over in Clifton there by uc what.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
Was that Tenseley, something with a T Tinsley or something
like that. Somebody on Facebook live would tell me. But
remember he was pulling off. He got shot and killed
the same thing could have happened to this dude, and
then everybody would have been all upset. He was caught.

(08:18):
He stolen car. The cops caught him. You caught get
out of the car. His name was Jeremiah Ice.

Speaker 4 (08:26):
He was a black guy. I never heard of any
blacks being named Ice before. I never heard any you know,
any black's name Ice. I never heard that last name before,
Jeremiah Ice. He was twenty years old. He's been charged
with receiving stolen property, resisting arrests, failing to comply with an.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
Officer, and more. After he pulled over. Was pulled over
on December eighth.

Speaker 7 (08:54):
And.

Speaker 4 (08:57):
The officer was identified by the officer, was notified by
flock cameras.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
But you know they pick up license plates when you
come through their community and comes back whether it's stolen
or not.

Speaker 4 (09:11):
So the vehicle was reported stolen. The guy pulled into
a smoke shop and boom. The officer went in there
said hey, stop, stop the officer Ice. Then he opens
the driver's side door and the officer don't try to
pull off, buddy, you're going to jail. Ice continues to

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reverse the vehicle, and the officer begins repeatedly yelling.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
He's got me in the car, He's got me in
the car.

Speaker 4 (09:42):
He was putting saying this on his radio or yelling
out to his other officers because the guy was dragging
him in the car, and he could have easily shot
right then. I was in fear of my life. I
did the He could have shot the dude right then, easily.
He had it on camera. The guy was dragging him.
He was right there on camera. They say, we are

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fortunate and very glad this incident ended with only minor injuries.
And this guy was booked into the Hamilton County jail
ten thousand dollars bond.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
He's expected to be back on court. Now, I think
it was a ten percent. So I think he got
out on one thousand dollars with all that he walked
with a thousand dollars bond.

Speaker 4 (10:31):
Unbelievable, unbelievable. A lot of people don't like those flock cameras.
But if you've had a car stolen, you love him,
you love him, You're gonna get your car back, hopefully
in one piece. Yeah, so Sam Dubos was the guy

(10:54):
I was thinking of, Sam boot Dubos who was shot.
I think the officer who shot him the name with
the tea. If I'm not mistaken something Tensing, Yeah, Tensing,
there we go.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
I knew it was a tea. You know Ray Tinsy
remember that. And something else happened over the weekend. Elwood
Jones Friday, late Friday, at well, it wasn't late. Right
after I got off the air Friday. Right after I
got off the air, I hear from the prosecutor's office

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that there's going to be a press conference at one thirty.
I'm like, I'm at home.

Speaker 4 (11:31):
I'm not getting back out in that, I don't think
so I'm not going down to the press conference.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
So after the press conference.

Speaker 4 (11:41):
I get another call from the prosecutor's office and it
says that they've dropped the charges against Elwood Jones. Charges
have been dropped, And I'm like, okay, you know we
were supposed to go to to the courthouse tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
That's been canceled. Of course we were supposed to.

Speaker 4 (12:05):
And I don't think Connie Pillidge wanted to see the
courtroom packed with people backing Elwood Jones. And she's got
all this information that they did withhold the evidence in
that trial that could have cleared him as a suspect.
Connie Pillig says that, you know, he wouldn't be a
suspect if they had released the evidence. So this man

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spends thirty count them thirty years in jail on death
row for prosecutors doing evil things just to win a case.
And the sad thing about it, I think she still

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got some of those prosecutors down there. I think maybe
one or two of them are still there.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
So how was she going to start this integrity task
force and she's got some of the people still down there.

Speaker 4 (13:06):
That's what I'm trying to figure out. But I will
ask that question. I will ask that question. She's calling
in today at ten thirty, Hamilton County Prosecutor Connie Pillage
will call in and give us all the details on
the Ellwood Jones case. But I'm glad to see that

(13:28):
it's over for Ellwood Jones. Now he's got to find
him a job. He's gonna be he's gonna have all
this expunged from his record, and he's got to find
him a job that for I think a year and
a half or two years. He needs some more quarters
of work to get Social Security. So now he's gonna

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have to try to find a job somewhere.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
For a year and a half two years, and if
anybody out there might be able to help him with that,
I'm going to see what I can do if you
got out so many some ideas, Uh he needs he
needs to get a job for a year and a
half two years to get all his quarters to get
social Security.

Speaker 4 (14:21):
Yeah, so we'll see what happens there. But he his
record will be expunged and it'll be like none of
this ever happened, except he lost thirty years of his life.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Thirty years he was in jail on death row for
crime he didn't commit.

Speaker 4 (14:46):
Let's take a break and then we'll come Back five, one, three, seven, four, nine,
twelve thirty, The Lincoln Ware Show, twelve thirty.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
The Buzz That Out. You forgot that? Okay, you'll figure
it out. Yeah, you got to cut that out so
it will be on the uh the podcast.

Speaker 4 (15:03):
Yes, all right, let's go downtown to the Crimestopper headquarters
and check in with my good friend, Detective Todd Green.

Speaker 7 (15:11):
How are you, good morning, Lincoln. How you doing.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
I'm hanging in there, hanging in there. What's going on?
Who are we looking for today?

Speaker 7 (15:19):
Lincoln?

Speaker 6 (15:20):
We got some problems here in the city.

Speaker 8 (15:22):
Joe Burrow's not happy.

Speaker 4 (15:23):
Well, he's happy. He clarified that yesterday. He said, uh, uh,
you know, I love Cincinnati. Uh, I just it's just him,
you know, it's he's got to do some things to himself.
He likes Cincinnati. He's okay here, but there's some other
things going on.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
I guess.

Speaker 6 (15:41):
I mean, if you had a batmobile, would you be happy?

Speaker 2 (15:44):
He might be. He didn't get that batmobile.

Speaker 6 (15:48):
Oh man, Okay, Today we are looking for Christian Coates.
She is wanted by the Adult for Authority for a
felony for old violation. Ms Cope was originally charged with
felony struggle smuggle contraband into prison. Kristin Cope has a
female white thirty one years old, five to one and

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one hundred and sixty eight pounds. Christin Cope has a
history of drug possession, resisting arrests, and assault, and was
last known to live on Harrison Avenue in Fairmount. Also,
we are looking for the White English. He is wanted
by the Ohio Adult Parole Authority for a felony parole violation.

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Mister English was originally charged with burglary. White English is
a male black sixty four years old, five eight and
one hundred and sixty pounds. D White English has a
history of breaking and entering in Berkeley and was last
known to live on Montgomery Road in Kennedy Heights. If
anyone has information on where police can find Kristin Cope

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or Dwight English, please call crime Stoppers at five one
three three five two thirty forty or submitted tip online
at crime dash Stoppers dot Us.

Speaker 4 (17:07):
All right three five two thirty forty night or day
cash money for your clues.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
Did you have to work this weekend or were you in?

Speaker 7 (17:16):
I actually I worked.

Speaker 6 (17:17):
I was at the stadium yesterday oh, okay, okay, it was.
I was lucky enough to have a spot inside of vehicle.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
Oh man, so that was good. You lucked out.

Speaker 7 (17:28):
It was.

Speaker 6 (17:29):
It was brutally cold, yes, yes it was.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
I could believe how it looked like a ghost down
down at the Longworth Hall.

Speaker 6 (17:37):
Oh yeah, yeah, a lot of those spots were pretty empty.

Speaker 9 (17:41):
Yes, pretty empty.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
Yes, all right, we'll talk to you. I don't know,
maybe tomorrow, who knows.

Speaker 6 (17:46):
We'll see if miss Detective Green she's coming back, yaw, yes,
all right, If not, I'll help her out again.

Speaker 4 (17:54):
There you go, always there, You're always there when they
need you. Yes, sir, all right, Detective time Green, thanks
for talking.

Speaker 5 (18:01):
Good talk.

Speaker 4 (18:02):
All right, we'll see. That's a detective Tie Green filling
in for Tiffany Green. Those Greens always work together. Yeah,
all right. Five one, three, seven, four, nine, twelve thirty. Uh,
we're talking about Elwood Jones. The prosecutors calling in at
ten thirty to give us an update on what she did,

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why she did it, and where do we go from here.
I wonder if she's gonna look into Tracy Hunters case
like that.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
I don't know. It just Tracy Hunters case is the
strangest thing I've I've ever seen in my life.

Speaker 4 (18:40):
I just don't know what it is with that case.
Nobody wants to talk about it. They keep doing everything
they can to.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
Uh not end it for her. I just don't know.
It's crazy. All right, let's go to the pharaoh. Ro
How you doing?

Speaker 5 (19:01):
Because I'm all right Lincoln. Uh you know, Lincoln, Uh,
you know I watched the the Bengals game yesterday, and
you know I saw the Bengals. You know, I also
saw those some insane white folks down there bear jested,
you know, insane behavior. Yes, yes, but it's one thing

(19:24):
to lose, uh, you know, to lose at home, yes,
But to be shut out, oh man, you know that's
twice as bad.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
Yes.

Speaker 5 (19:34):
But Lincoln, I wanted to ask you a couple of
football questions. You know, who would be on top three
running backs of all time?

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Top three?

Speaker 4 (19:46):
I would say, uh, Jim Brown number one, okay, probably
I would say maybe Gail Sayers number two, okay. And
what's the guy that played for the Los Angeles Rams

(20:06):
wore glasses about think of his name? I would put
him number three. Well, you know what's the guy in Detroit? Uh,
Barry Sanders, I put him up in there.

Speaker 5 (20:18):
Two would be he would be one of mine. My
three would be Jim Brown, Barry Sanders, and Tony Dorsett.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (20:28):
What about I'll ask you another question. Yes, who would
be a top.

Speaker 7 (20:34):
Three?

Speaker 10 (20:35):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (20:36):
Wide receivers?

Speaker 2 (20:37):
Oh boy, oh boy, that's the top.

Speaker 4 (20:40):
It's been so many great white more wide receivers than
running backs that were great.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
Top three, oh man, oh boy, top three? Oh boy.
I would have to say Jerry Rice okay, oh.

Speaker 5 (20:57):
Man, Oh give you my three?

Speaker 11 (21:01):
Yeah, I would say Bob Hayes, okay.

Speaker 5 (21:08):
Willy Gold from Chicago Bears, you remember him, Willy Golf.
He was another burner. And my third person would be
remember Ronald or Nee Mayah. Those would be my top three.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
They were just fast. Bob Hayes was fast. He wasn't
that great of a receiver, Willie, who's that coman?

Speaker 5 (21:31):
Yes he was, he was. He caught it and he was,
but he but he never got it.

Speaker 4 (21:36):
But see that's the thing. He never got a chance
to really show that speed off that many times. Normally
when he caught it, he got tack.

Speaker 5 (21:44):
I was looking at him yesterday, I was looking at
him to him yesterday. I saw one guy chasing him,
and the guy got Bob Hayes got passed him. He
just waved his hand goodbye, told him bought to chase him.
Bob didn't even look back over, So I said, Bob
Hays Willie Gault.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
Oh, and everybody remind me of Paul Warfield.

Speaker 5 (22:07):
What about Paul A good receiver? I remember him when
he was with Cleveland Brown, Yes, in Ohio state. But anyway,
Lincoln Friday, you also asked her. You wanted to ask
me a question, but he hung up on me before
you can ask you a question. You're saying about a
black Santa. Yes, about how I feel if it was
a black Santa, Yes, I feel the same way. It's

(22:30):
still European Paganism, regardless if it's a black Santo, white Santa,
Asian Santa. It's still European Pagianism, and still has nothing
to do with African people and our history and our culture.
I'm against it, period. Keep your money in your pocket.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
Unbelievable, all right, but truth? All right, all right, we'll
talk to you, yeah, all right, Uh.

Speaker 4 (22:59):
Say, Lincoln ware with you till about one o'clock this afternoon,
coming up at one riven.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
How Sharpton.

Speaker 7 (23:06):
Right.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
Now, let's go downtown to the Hamilton County Prosecutor's office
and talk to Hamilton County Prosecutor Connie Pillage. How you
doing today?

Speaker 8 (23:16):
I'm doing great.

Speaker 10 (23:17):
How are you?

Speaker 2 (23:18):
I'm hanging in there, hanging in there.

Speaker 4 (23:20):
Well, I was shocked the press conference on Friday and
you're dropping all charges against mister Elwood Jones. And what
brought you to that conclusion?

Speaker 10 (23:34):
Well, I did, got into the records of the case
and study them, reviewed them. Took several months to get
through them. While I was doing that, my first assistant prosecutor,
that's my number one here, also did it. We both
reached the same conclusion that mister Jones was innocent.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 8 (24:01):
And so look, it was a deep dive into the case.

Speaker 10 (24:05):
Yes, and I try to be very thorough in my
making in making big decisions. But look, there was no
physical or forensic evidence that LinkedIn to the murder. There
were almost four thousand pages of interview notes and other
records from the interview to put a parton me from

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the police investigation that were never turned over until recently.
And in those interview notes, we saw a dozen witnesses
pointed to somebody else.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
Yeah, and then a dozen witnesses pointed to somebody else,
but they were determined to get Elwood Jones on this. Okay,
keep going.

Speaker 10 (24:52):
Well, yeah, and there was also we have the benefit
you know this, this horrific crime had from thirty years ago. Yes,
but we have the benefit of modern science and learned
of new testing that excluded him that he could not

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have done it.

Speaker 4 (25:15):
Because they yet they say she was hit in the
in the mouth, and because Elwood Jones had a cut
on his hand, that he had reported it to his
job that he had cut his hand while working, and
she had hepatitis B.

Speaker 10 (25:30):
I believe, yes, So that's let's talk about the hand first.
There there were some photos of the wound on his hand.
It wasn't where you would it wasn't on his knuckles
where you would punch someone. It was on the back
of his hand. And it was a gash. It wasn't
a little cut, it was a big gash. So which

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actually supports his claim that he he was taking out
the trash and he got it caught on the dumpster,
which also explains why it got infected because I think
most of us would not expect a dumpster to be
clean or sanitary. But yes, that does bring us to

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the hepatitis B test. The police did not disclose or
the state. I don't know who was in charge of that,
but no one disclosed to mister Jones that he had
been tested for hepatitis B. And according to the United
States Supreme Court, the defendant does not have to go

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around fishing and guessing. You're just supposed to give him
all the stuff. And that's from a nineteen sixty three case,
so it's not new news. But he was tested for
hepatitis B and it came out negative, and then his
attorneys more recently had him tested again and they did

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a more different kind of test, which examines whether he
has ever had appatitis B, because it's one of those
things that stays in your bloodstream for decades and he
has never ever had it. And it's also the doctor
also testified that that hepatitis B is very, very contagious.

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Even small, tiny little pin pricks can contain the virus
and cause you to have it. And it's more contagious
than HIV, which we know is fairly contagious as well.
So it just didn't add up. And when you see
all these things piled on top of one another, you

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realize that we don't have the evidence.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
To convict them, and so boy.

Speaker 4 (27:53):
So then he spends thirty years on death row. What
kept him from being executed all these years? How did
the not get executed?

Speaker 10 (28:03):
Well, part of it is that he was exercising his
right to file appeal that puts it on hold. But
also the death penalty in Ohio, you know, it really
doesn't happen. Yeah, we've got there's a guy from Hamilton
County has been on death row since like nineteen eighty five.

(28:25):
And I think it's because we in general, I don't
think there's been an execution but one in twenty eighteen,
but it's been decades really not working. And that was
the mister Jones's benefit, that we didn't execute an innocent

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man because our death penalty system doesn't work.

Speaker 4 (28:50):
Now with this new integrity panel or integrity what is
a commission that you're going to form down at your office.

Speaker 10 (28:58):
What's it called Conviction Integrity Unit? And that you may
have heard of this back when Sennan Rucker ran for
prosecutor a bunch of years ago. He talked about this
because we need to be able to have a person
or a team that can spend those months looking through

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these cases that we need to look through. Now, I've
got a two hundred person organization to run, and I
don't don't can't just dive in for three weeks in
a row because I've got all.

Speaker 8 (29:33):
This other stuff to do.

Speaker 9 (29:34):
So we need that.

Speaker 10 (29:35):
We need someone whose job it will be to respond
to these requests from defendants or organizations like the Ohio
Innocence Project to review these things.

Speaker 4 (29:47):
Now, isn't it true that you still have some of
the same prosecutors in your office that was on Elwood
Jones's case back then.

Speaker 10 (29:57):
I don't really know who others then, Mark pepe Meyer
and Seth Tiger were on the on the case, and
neither of them are here.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
Okay, so both of those guys are gone.

Speaker 10 (30:09):
Yes they're both retired.

Speaker 4 (30:10):
Okay, okay, okay, Well I'll tell you, but this is
I mean, I mean, you got to feel good that
you were able to find out and release this guy
after all these years. The other prosecutors didn't look into
it like you did, so you got to feel good
about yourself for doing.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
At least doing that.

Speaker 10 (30:28):
I got to tell you when the judge signed the entry.
It was a very emotional moment. And then when we
took the entry over to the clerk's office and filed
it to make it an official part of the record,
that that was that was also very emotional. Yeah, And look,
the reason that the reason we were able to do

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this is not just because I'm committed to justice with integrity,
but because I was new. I was a fresh set
of eyes, and so was my first assistant who did
start her career in this office and then went to
the city before she came back here with me. But
that's why we have to have someone who's not from

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this office, because it's just natural to want to support
your colleagues or your predecessors. That's natural. That's why we
need to have a fresh set of eyes with this
Conviction Integrity Unit. And if the if the county gives
me the funding, we will be able to put it
together in the new year.

Speaker 4 (31:32):
Now, is anything going on poor Tracy Hunter. She keeps
filing this and filing that, and it's just like she's
just training her will. Nothing is happening with that she
and she has it seemed like she has credible evidence.
The show she was railroaded. Are you going to have
your integrity team look into this? Are you going to

(31:52):
look into that? Or what's going on with Tracy Hunt?

Speaker 8 (31:55):
Well?

Speaker 10 (31:56):
Right now there's an appeal pending, and so it's I
just can't talk about it, but anyone will be able
to approach this Conviction Integrity Unit once I get it
up and running. It's you know, it took me four
months to pour through Elwo Jones's case because I can't
do it full time.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
Yes, yes, And and I put it home.

Speaker 10 (32:19):
It's not that I'm sitting around, you know. I also
took it home.

Speaker 12 (32:22):
To work on it.

Speaker 4 (32:23):
So who made the call to Elwood Jones? Did you
call him? Did you call us lawyers? How do they
find out the news?

Speaker 10 (32:29):
I texted his lawyer, okay, and I'm a text just
a moment before we started the press conference, okay, okay, Yeah,
And I have no way to contact mister Jones. Yes, yes, yes,
then that would be inappropriate for me to do so
because he is a lawyer.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
Yes, yes, all right? Boy? Oh boy? So after thirty years, man,
I'm sure you know, I don't know if it's coming
or now, but I can almost guarantee you there's going
to be a lawsuit file for Him's any thirty years
in jail? Uh for a crime he didn't come in, Well.

Speaker 10 (33:06):
You'll have to have him. I wouldn't be involved.

Speaker 4 (33:10):
That's someone said, Joe Dieters was upset. I heard on
the one news program Joe Dieters was upset. And you
haven't heard the last from him. Have you heard anything
from Joe Dieters?

Speaker 10 (33:21):
No, I haven't. Uh, And I understand why he's upset.
He thought he was doing something right. Yes, turns out
we were. We look just not turning over the thousands
of pages.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
That's great of case.

Speaker 10 (33:37):
Notest the law.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
Somebody should go to jail.

Speaker 10 (33:41):
For We're we're not supposed to cheat. We don't need
to cheat to win. We've got good lawyers here. They
do their job and and we we should be able
to win with integrity in this case that could not
have happened because it was the wrong guy.

Speaker 4 (33:59):
Yes, yes, all right, well, Countie Pillage, and we appreciate you,
and I'm sure Elwood Jones is doing back. No hand
flips now he's a free man after thirty years. And
keep up the good work down there, County Pillage.

Speaker 10 (34:13):
All right, thanks so much, Lincoln, all right.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
Same to you.

Speaker 4 (34:16):
We'll talk to you all right. That's Hamilton County Prosecutor
Connie Pillage and drop charges against Elwood Jones. And yeah,
when you cheat down there, you should go to jail.
They stop him from cheating, you know, they cheating. They
get away with it. The guys who are in that case,

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they retire. They said, let's get out, let's retire. Now
they're gone. But they were still down there when he
was appealing and all this stuff. They were still there,
and they knew what they had done.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
They knew it. They knew it.

Speaker 4 (34:56):
All right, let me take a break. We'll come back
twelve thirty. The buzz your talk station is that Isley
jasper Ilely.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
I think so. Yeah, that's a boy. That was a
great song. Lincoln.

Speaker 4 (35:06):
Were with you till one o'clock this afternoon, and we
just heard from the Hamlet County Prosecutor Connie Pillage. And
he's free now. Elwood Jones, it's been on the show
several times wanting his freedom. They withheld thousands of pages.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
Witnesses said it pointed the finger at somebody else, and no,
they wanted to convict this black man of the murder.

Speaker 4 (35:46):
Unbelievable cut his hand on the dumpster, reported it to
his job. And if the cut wasn't even where if
you punched somebody in the mouth, it wasn't even where her.
If her teeth had caught his, his knuckles weren't even scarred.
His knuckles would have been scarred. Unbelievable. All right, with

(36:14):
all the boy, I'm just saying, Hey, can you imagine
spending thirty years on death row? You don't know when
you're gonna die. You keep filing the pills to stay alive,
and you don't know when one of those pills are
gonna be kicked back, and they're gonna make take you,
make you take that walk.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
To the gas chamber.

Speaker 4 (36:36):
Jeez, unbelievable. All right, let's go back to the phones.
Five one, three, seven, four, nine, twelve thirty. Looks like
Bill is up. Bill, how are you?

Speaker 9 (36:49):
I'm doing great, man. I want to talk about a
couple of things.

Speaker 7 (36:54):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (36:55):
First of all the singles that I tell you too,
it's pitiful, man, But you know what, I don't fought
them for the bleachers being full of snow. I would
not put up with being fined for something I'm not
responsible for.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
Well, I'll tell you what.

Speaker 4 (37:12):
In Buffalo when they had a snowstorm the night before
the game, they paid people twenty dollars an hour, twenty
dollars an hour and free food to anybody who would
come in there and help them clean.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
They opened it up to the community.

Speaker 7 (37:28):
Me tell you what I'd be Johnny.

Speaker 4 (37:30):
That's what I'm saying. You know, the Bengals could have
done the same thing. But they're so damn cheap. They
could have done the same thing.

Speaker 7 (37:39):
Mike Brown. And that's what you expect from Mike Brown. Cheapness.
Definitely cheapness, you know. But you know what the Bengals.

Speaker 9 (37:49):
Hey, better luck next time or better luck next year.

Speaker 7 (37:53):
Move it right along again.

Speaker 9 (37:55):
Sunday so classes was a knockout, man, I tell you
you just getting atrociously aware.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
Did you hear your Barca's Did you hear uh? Sitting
on the dock of the bay.

Speaker 7 (38:07):
Absolutely And I heard my jam soul finger.

Speaker 9 (38:10):
Oh yeah, yes, that was my salute to the Barcads
for keeping keeping it together for so long. I didn't
get a chance to see the barcade this year, but
if I saw James Allen standing I he gave me
his crops yes for keeping the band alive for so long.
But I tell you the highlights though. Man where Uh

(38:31):
Betty Swan make me yours?

Speaker 7 (38:34):
Yes?

Speaker 9 (38:35):
I get her confused with Barbara Ackling.

Speaker 4 (38:37):
Yes, Barbara Barbara Acklan seems a little higher than Betty Swan.

Speaker 7 (38:42):
Yeah, well they both sound good. Uh what else did
I hear it? Did I liked it?

Speaker 11 (38:47):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (38:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (38:48):
And I liked it when you said when cameos were
going out tonight, oh, we're not going out tonight because
it was cold.

Speaker 7 (38:59):
I really liked that.

Speaker 9 (39:00):
But that one song, I tell you one Monkey, don't stop,
no show, not by the honey Comb.

Speaker 4 (39:06):
But I tell you King George. I figured I play
that since I saw King George on Friday Night.

Speaker 9 (39:13):
Well that's all reminds me of Twin Twins show stopped
and Twin.

Speaker 7 (39:19):
Is a monkey. But you know what I got this
to say.

Speaker 9 (39:23):
You know, I'm taking care of I'm helping aiding.

Speaker 7 (39:27):
A homeless couple that is living in that car. Now.

Speaker 9 (39:32):
I don't know the circumstances of why, but it's just
pitiful that around this time, as cold as it is,
that they're living in their car, and I have the
heart to aid and assist of helping them and everything.
And Twin, I say this to you, you better be
on your hands and knees praying to the Lord that

(39:53):
you keep your job, because you know what Trump is
out for blood, You out to do so much damage.

Speaker 7 (40:00):
So it ain't funny.

Speaker 9 (40:01):
But you know what, it's the man upstairs that made
them custom judges to make him open up the government.
And I tell you twenty twenty five I will not forget.
And the best part about twenty twenty five was I
did not have to go to the hospital this year.

Speaker 8 (40:20):
Ain't that great?

Speaker 2 (40:21):
That's great? Well, twenty five is not over yet. To
keep your fingers crossed.

Speaker 7 (40:26):
Yeah, I will.

Speaker 9 (40:27):
But you know what, when King Holiday comes, I will
be there. I will be marchin all right, will be
praising the Lord for what he's done. And Terrence and
you miss the ware. Y'all keep up the good work man,
because y'all just knocked out. Y'all are the salty pepper
man this city.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
All right, Bill, thanks for your call. All right? Five one, three, seven, four, nine,
twelve thirty. Let's see do I have enough time for
Brent before news? Maybe not.

Speaker 4 (40:58):
Let's take a break for news and we'll come back
Brent ray Netty all holding on five, one, three, seven,
four nine, twelve thirty. That's my number. If you want
to jump on board. We're talking Bengals. Hey, one billion,
over one billion dollars in the power ball tonight, over

(41:18):
one billion dollars in the jackpot. It could be you,
it could be you can't win if you don't play.
That's what I always say. Somebody's got to win. Somebody's
gonna win. All right, let's take a break, we'll come back.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
Twelve thirty. The buzz mean none other than Donny Isaacson.
And he is a state representative, the minority party leader
up at the state House, Democratic Party leader. And Donny,
good to see you, get to have you on the.

Speaker 3 (41:55):
Show, Lincoln, thanks for having me. Hope everyone survived the
very cold weekend.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
Yes, yes, yes, were you at the event on Saturday?

Speaker 3 (42:01):
I didn't make it, but I couldn't make it out. Okay,
sounded like it was a great event.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, sounds like.

Speaker 4 (42:06):
Now what's going on at the state House. They're still
tearing up the marijuana a lull that people passed it,
still uh, putting people out of business and carrying on
like that.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
So what next? What next.

Speaker 3 (42:18):
So this happened in the you know, they called a
lame duck session where you know, they go into late
into the night, right before the holidays. They hope folks
don't pay attention to some of the more obnoxious or
unpopular bills, and one of them is a bill that
you know, we've been going back and forth in a
pretty bipartisan way for a year trying to get something
good to come out of this, but ultimately, you know,

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they pushed too hard to try and recriminalize things that
the voter said very clearly we want to be legal.
Plenty of people who don't use marijuana still don't think
that people should be criminalized. Yeah for it, right, it's
and so and that was the issue that ultimately we had. So, now,
if you go into Michigan or another state and you
buy cannabis legally and you bring it back into Ohio,

(43:03):
that is now a crime.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
Are you kidding me?

Speaker 3 (43:05):
If you share the cannabis that you bought in Michigan
with someone else, it's now a drug trafficking offense. Right,
So it's back to the same bs of criminalizing behavior
that the voters in Ohio very clearly said should no
longer be criminal. So there's some good elements to the bill,
but those elements were a bridge too far.

Speaker 4 (43:26):
Crazy crazy crazy, So now people can't go to Detroit,
buy something and bring it back here. That's again a
lot of times they set up a little stakeouts and
watch people with Ohio tags and when they follow they
radio hands, hey, we got one come and just bought
some marijuana over here at this door, and they crossing
the line with it.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
So I mean they can set up a trap for people.

Speaker 3 (43:49):
Well, in the you know, we've seen how marijuana criminalization
right and marijuana arrests have just fed into you know,
sort of putting way too many people behind bars for
thirty forty years. And so finally as a state, we
decided we're going to move beyond that. With fifty seven
percent of the vote, it wasn't close. And so the

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idea that then the legislature would go back and you know,
at past midnight, right before the Thanksgiving holiday and recriminalize
certain aspects of it just because they can. And this
is the point that the Republicans make, Well, we are
legally allowed to change the law because those fifty percent
of people only voted for something that has the force
of law. It's not a constitutional amendment. But just because

(44:30):
you can do something doesn't mean that you should. And
clearly they're just it's it's ignoring what the vast majority
of people in Ohio said they wanted.

Speaker 4 (44:39):
Now, what about the SNAP program in Ohio? I know
that's been when the government shut down before then Trump
is threatened with whole Well this is a this is
a rid state, so he would he'd threatened with whole
SNAP payments from some red states and I mean, yeah,
blue states.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
He threatened to do that for blue state. This is
a states. So I guess we don't have to worry.
But how is the government messing with SNAP payments? Now?
They tinkering around with that though.

Speaker 3 (45:07):
Well, and this it shows you a little bit about
just the state of things in the country. There were
one point four million people who were going hungry in
Ohio didn't have enough money on their snapguards all because
they didn't want to address the fact that healthcare premiums
are going to go up by ten or twenty thousand
dollars for some couples next year. So that was the fight, right,

(45:31):
instead of feeding millions of people, all you have to
do to feed them to come to an agreement was say, okay,
we're going to keep health care prices a little lower.
And eventually what happened is they're going to we are
going to see the healthcare premium spike next year. Now
we all know who to blame. And they were so
committed to the healthcare premium spiking that they were willing

(45:53):
to let people go hungry for weeks. So we haven't
fixed the underlying problem, which is that healthcare is through
the roof. Yeah, and so yes, people are getting their
snap benefits again, but they're in all sorts of ways.
President Trump and the federal government are collaborating with partners
in state capitals like Columbus to try and find ways
to chip away at the benefits people receive to make

(46:15):
it so that the hungry are hungrier. Right, there's people
you know in schools that already underfunded are more underfunded. Right,
that's the direction they're trying to take everything in.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
All, Right, if you've got questions for the Democratic minority
leader at the state representative, give us a call five one, three, seven, four, nine,
twelve thirty. Donnie Isaacson is my guest this morning.

Speaker 4 (46:37):
And did they ever scrap this eighteen year old you
could get a license, I mean good by a gun.
I know they Cecil Thomas said they had brought that up,
wanted to make it legal for an eighteen year old
to get a gun.

Speaker 3 (46:51):
And look they're still working on that. You know what
we saw, we saw tragedy, unfortunately after tragedy this weekend,
not just in the US but around the world, and
the idea that we need more guns on the streets
to keep us safer just goes against everything we see
in the news every single day. And the only way

(47:15):
you can possibly believe that is to just be totally
disconnected from the communities that we are supposed to be representing.

Speaker 4 (47:22):
Yeah, they're disconnected, that's for sure. That they are disconnected well,
and it's.

Speaker 3 (47:28):
Because they can be right because they have drawn the
districts through a gerrymandering system that allowed them to not
be accountable to the voters. And when you have unaccountable
elected officials, you get what we've gotten, which is policies
that cater to the very very very highest earners, the
biggest businesses, and don't actually help medium sized businesses, small businesses, entrepreneurs,

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don't help most families have done nothing about the fact
that childcare and housing continue to be the two biggest
costs for most families. And so it's a choice, right
There are choices that Massachusetts and Connecticut and New York
and other states are making where life genuinely is more
affordable on those metrics, and Ohio could be and should

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be making those choices.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
Unbelievable. Are they going to do anything about property taxes
here in the state? Anything?

Speaker 3 (48:20):
This is you know, Lincoln, this has been one of
the most frustrating things to witness over the last few years,
because from almost the day I got into office, people
have been calling me and saying, our property taxes are
too high. Seniors are calling they said, you know, I
had a couple call me. They described how both of
them were going through cancer treatments. They'd spent all of
their savings on those because of our broken healthcare system,

(48:43):
and somehow they were going to get taxed out of
their house. Now, I believe it's wrong for the government
to tax anyone out of their home who owns their home.
Our property taxes are way too high. But the answer
is not to try and scrape some money from our
school districts. Send out a one time check that's only
going to increase people's property taxes in the next few years.

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The actual answer is, use the state resources to fund
our public schools and are other public services so that
it doesn't all fall in the backs of property owners.
Because as long as you're squeezing seventy percent of the
burden for public education out of local taxpayers, property taxes
are going to stay high.

Speaker 5 (49:22):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
And then you get these communities who are voting down
these levees, and then that's hurting even more. You know,
I'm looking at them mount healthy schools. They're thinking about
a payroll tax to fund the schools out because they're hurting.

Speaker 3 (49:40):
So so schools are you know, school districts are going
to have to get creative because they are under attack
from state government. Even though and this is the part
that blows your mind, ninety percent of kids in Ohio
go to public schools. Yeah, like almost everyone goes to
public schools. So why are we attacking the public school system.
We should be investing in the public schoo system. That's

(50:01):
where everyone goes, and not just in urban areas and
rural areas, and a lot of the districts that can't
pass levees like the ones you're talking about are in
rural areas represented by Republicans. They can't pass levees in
part because they don't have the tax base in parts
of southeast Ohio or because it's an aging population.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
Right, and they say, we can't afford to pay anymore.

Speaker 3 (50:23):
And I get the anger on property taxes, but the
blame has to be with the state legislature and a
majority you know there that has just refused to invest
in schools for over a decade.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
All right, Uh, five, one, three, seven, four, nine, twelve thirty.
We're talking to Donnie Isaacson, uh, state representative, the minority
leader in the state House there, and uh, what's coming
up for twenty twenty six? What's going to be on
the table when you guys go back uh next year?

Speaker 3 (50:52):
So I think we're going to be pushing for more
housing policy to try and increase at least the availability
of housing so that we can stabilize rents and make
it easier for first time homeowners to buy homes because
you know, people move to Ohio, they stay in Ohio
historically for the same reason you know, my family came
to the state. It's a great place to raise a

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family buy a.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
Home, and.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
That is no longer very true anymore. And so we
have to get back to a place where people can
afford their rent, where seniors can afford to downsize, so
that more families can you move into homes.

Speaker 7 (51:29):
Right.

Speaker 3 (51:29):
We need more activity in the housing market. So that's
going to be a big focus for us. Figuring out
how we can possibly bring down childcare and healthcare costs.
You know, obviously a lot of that's at the federal level,
but childcare in particular, oh, is a state issue.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
Geez, child care is out of control.

Speaker 3 (51:47):
And that's what I think sometimes gets lost I think
in the in the news and on social media. You know,
everyone's really focused on national issues. They're really focused on
you know, city politics, but most of the issues that
affect most people every day are actually handled at the
state level. Your public education, childcare, infrastructure, criminal justice, what's

(52:10):
a crime, what's not, what are the punishments for it,
the you know, the law enforcement system in general. All
of that is at the state level. And so you know,
there's a bill right now that we are working very
hard against to try and make it so that if
you're if you're from certain other countries, you can't buy
property in Ohio. Now, I think it's unconstitutional and it
like goes back to some of the worst periods.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
Well, if somebody whose other countries, if you from outside
of the countries, you can't buy property in certain countries.

Speaker 3 (52:37):
I know this would include the bill as it's been introduced,
includes green card holders. So you you ok to the
country when you're you know, when you're ten, you've been
here for the years. Now you've finally got a management
job at the hospital. You're as American as anyone.

Speaker 13 (52:52):
Else, right, and so you want to buy some property,
and so you want to buy a house and they
won't let you. And so you know, it's also like
what if you came and you were a refugee. What
if you were fleeing China or Venezuela, Right, you were
trying to escape, and now you've been in the country
a long time.

Speaker 3 (53:07):
You got American kids. That to me, we want people
who want to seek freedom, who want to build a
better life, Right, That's what we've always wanted. And once
they're here and they've proven that they're you know, willing
to do that, the idea that Ohio would say, please
go elsewhere.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
Just doesn't make any sense, unbelievable. It all comes out
of Columbus. All right, let's go to uh oh boy, Stepan.
How you doing, step Fan?

Speaker 3 (53:32):
Good friend?

Speaker 9 (53:33):
I'm doing.

Speaker 7 (53:35):
How y'all doing in the studio?

Speaker 3 (53:37):
We're doing good?

Speaker 14 (53:38):
All right, Donny, I got a couple of questions for
your buddy.

Speaker 3 (53:41):
I'm ready to Stephan. It was nice to see you
a few weeks ago a family market.

Speaker 14 (53:45):
LifeWise, likewise, I saw you down there selling shopping mans.
Good job. Hey, what made what made you form a
juist caucus up and up in Columbus? That's one question
for you?

Speaker 9 (53:58):
Want to answer that?

Speaker 14 (53:59):
Then I get a couple more for you.

Speaker 11 (54:01):
I want to go through a mall.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
How many do you have, Stefan?

Speaker 7 (54:04):
We don't have three or four?

Speaker 2 (54:08):
Two is all I have time for.

Speaker 7 (54:10):
I do the Jewish coccaus?

Speaker 5 (54:11):
What made you form that?

Speaker 2 (54:12):
Sure?

Speaker 14 (54:13):
And what made you do behind the closed deal with
the redistricting of the lines on Greg Lansmick, because he
was really kind of upset when I asked him that
question Saturday at the little town hall so called meeting
they had up there, but no two things not that
one more Lincoln Social equity and this marijuana. Why do

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they lie to the to the voters, and to the
backs of the black folks. They're saying, basically, if we
passed this social equity for help black people get dispensary
license and grow license and delivery license, and they took
the social equity out the three questions the Jewish? What
made you start your Jewish coccus up in Columbus and

(54:54):
behind the closed deals and the social equity?

Speaker 7 (54:57):
I appreciate your time. Thanks, I guess I'll call you
back Lincoln.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
All right, thanks, where you go. Now, let's start with
Greg Landsman. What I mean he said? I don't know.

Speaker 4 (55:07):
You said he was happy, he was okay, he gave
you the thumbs up to vote for the redistrict thing.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
Is that true?

Speaker 3 (55:14):
He didn't give me the thumbs down. It's probably more active.
And this wasn't unique to Greg. We said to all
the members of Congress, right, if if you, you know,
want us to turn down this deal, you know, please
let us know. Not just the members, but Hakeem Jeffries
was involved as well, because we wanted to make sure
that they felt what we felt, which and now I

(55:35):
think it's very clear that Greg is I think going
to win next year. It's going to be a tough race,
but he is going to win that district. I hope.
I'm you know less sure, but certainly it's possible that
we are able to win the district up in northwest Ohio.
In Toledo, we will certainly win the district in the

(55:55):
Akron area. And if you look at what's happening in Texas,
they thought, they thought they fought, They took it all
the way to spring Court. The spring Court is going
to let them get rid of those five districts. We
were not willing to let that happen.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
In Olio.

Speaker 3 (56:08):
We would have lost all three of those districts, and
they weren't going to be, oh maybe like a little
more competitive. They were going to be Republican plus ten, eleven,
twelve one of them up to plus eighteen districts. Even
in a good Democratic year, you can't win districts like that.
And we saw those maps, and we saw what was
happening in North Carolina and Texas, and we said, we're
not going to let that happen here. So we're not

(56:31):
happy with the result that we got in the sense
that Ohioan's deserved better than jerrymandered maps. And these are
absolutely still jerrymandered maps. But at the end of the day,
going into President Trump's last two years, with the havoc
he is waking on the country. We couldn't afford to
lose Greg Landsman as our congressman. We couldn't afford to
totally wipe out Marci Captor, and we couldn't afford to
lose Amelia Sykes. And so you know, we took the

(56:53):
deal to preserve their ability to win. And I believe,
and I think so does so do a lot of
other people, especially if you look around the country, that
Greg Landsman is going to be able to win next year,
but he's going to need all of our help and
support to do it.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
All. Right, now, what about this Jewish caucus he was
talking about? What is that?

Speaker 3 (57:11):
Oh, so this is something it's actually I think a
really nice thing. You know, we legislators in Ohio, but
in legislatures all over the world, all over the country,
and in DC form caucuses based on shared interest, shared backgrounds.
Right there's a woman's caucus, there's a there's a rural
hospital caucus, there's you know, the some of the biggest,

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at least on the Democratics side or the legislative Black caucuses.

Speaker 7 (57:35):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (57:35):
And so now that we've got six Jewish members of
the legislature, which you know, when I started there were
there was only one other one, we have a Jewish
caucus and a chance. That's a chance for us to
sort of shout out things when you know, there's things
to celebrate. We're going to send out a Hanuka message today. Unfortunately,
our hanakcam message today is also noting, you know, a
tragic shooting in Australia at a Hanuka celebration. So there's

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just things that you know, like any group, it's it's
nice to come together and be a part of something
and sort of express shared perspectives or shared thoughts whenever
you know it comes up. Usually it's around Jewish holidays
and okay, notes about it. And then the last one
was around oh, it was around something Stefan I couldn't
agree with you more. The voters were clear about how

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they wanted the tax money distributed from marijuana. And again
this is where the Republican legislature has taken advantage of
the fact that they can amend that law that was
passed by the voters, and so even though they shouldn't,
they still are. And in the budget that was passed
this summer, which every Democrat voted against, they got rid

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of the social Equity fund that was part of the
marijuana tax bill that was passed by voters, so they
gutted that. In the same budget that sent six hundred
million dollars to a billionaire own sports stadium. In the
same budget that increased funding for private school subsidies for
the richest people in the state by over a billion dollars.

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The same budget that cut taxes for the highest earners
in Ohio by over a billion dollars. So those are
the choices that were made in the budget this summer,
and it's why every Democrat, which is not always the case, usually,
we want to find a way to vote for the
budget often if we can, if there's enough good stuff
in there. It's very, very unusual for every single Democrat

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to vote against a state budget. But that's how egregious
this one was this summer.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
Unbelievable. Unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (59:27):
Well, I'll tell you it's going to be tough going
for Democrats up there.

Speaker 3 (59:32):
So we've got a path, you know, we got to
play the long game. They've been playing the long game
all over the country, but certainly in Ohio, and so
we have to do the same thing. And the way
we think about it as state reps, certainly the way
I think about as someone who both lives in and
represents downtown on OTR in the West Side. What do
we need to be doing in the short term to
be of use and of value to make a positive

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impact for the communities we represent. So I'll give you
an example of that. They were going after public schools
in one of these property tax bills, and it was
going to cost Cincinnati Public over ten million dollars next year.
It would have been more than forty teachers. Oh and
so we negotiated with them, and we actually, basically in

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exchange for six or seven Democratic votes for a bill,
they added five hundred million dollars to fund public schools
for a year to keep them whole. So it made
it so that CPS has an additional year of funding
before they have to deal with those keys. So now
is that how I would design it? No, But my
job is to fight for CPS. Yeah, yeah, And so

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we found a way to do that in the short
term and that's what we're as Democrats. But in the
long term, we got to change the game up there,
and the way we do that, hopefully next year, is
break the supermajority, which will be the first time we
this is the first time we've had a real shot
to do that in a long time. We'd have to
flip six seats, which hasn't happened in over twelve years.
But that's why I wanted to become leaders to if

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we can't do it in twenty six, then get it
done by twenty eight. We've got to break the super
majority and we got to start putting Democrats back on
the path to representing a majority of people in the state.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
All right, we've got to take a quick break. We'll
come back, Joan, you're up on the other side of
the break.

Speaker 4 (01:01:10):
Twelve thirty The Buzz TBZ, the Buzz of Cincinnati, your
talk station Lincoln where with you in the studio with
me Donny Isaacson from the State House, state representative and
minority leader at the State House there and he's.

Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
In the studio to take your calls.

Speaker 4 (01:01:28):
And Derek blasing Game a guy he says, stop sending
these Seaton Elder seven Hills, Seven Country Day guys up
to the State House to represent Avon Dhill, Walnat Hills
and all those communities.

Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
And are you one of those guys from Seven Hills
a Seventh Country Day.

Speaker 3 (01:01:48):
Those are great schools. Nothing no knock on those schools.
But I'm a very proud Waln of Hills graduation.

Speaker 4 (01:01:52):
Okay, there you go, Derek blasing Game, he's from Walnat Hills.
Derek blazing Game. You Trump supported you. Hey, let's go
to Joan. Joan, you have a question.

Speaker 12 (01:02:04):
Yes, my question is under I want to know why
did the state legislature pass the law under Ohio Revised
Code Section fifty three twenty one point two ZHO. That's
rent control.

Speaker 9 (01:02:21):
And what that law is.

Speaker 12 (01:02:23):
It prevents the cities from creating their own rent cap
and control. And we all know the way this rent
is a lot of people are at a point that
they can't really afford it, and these landlords are constantly
going up on rent, and they go up on rent
every year. So how do you know the citizens of Cincinnati.

(01:02:48):
I'm just talking about Cincinnati right now, all right, but
this law carry's with the whole state of Ohio. So
how people are going to be able to continue to
afford to pay rent, and why would you all pays
a law like that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:03):
That's my question, Joan, thank you for this question. It's
a good one and it points to a larger issue,
which is what often happens in Cincinnati and Columbus in
Cleveland is that the voters there want something, whether it
has to do with housing, often it has to do with,
you know, keeping the streets and communities safe from guns,
and the state legislature uses its power to overturn what

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people want in those cities, right, to take that power
away from people in cities. And this goes to I
think the biggest issue that I want to try and
convey about the role that state government plays in Ohio.
We can't afford to ignore what happens in the legislature
or what happens in Columbus, because they are able, as
Miss Joan noted, to actually overturn what people in Cincinnati

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want because that's where the power lies, right, it lies
with the state legislature. And so we have an opportunity
in Cincinnati and Columbus and Cleveland the three c's if
we vote the way we should vote the way, you know,
and you know This means that elected official and politicians
have to give reasons. People give people reasons to vote.
But if we give people reasons to vote and people

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turn out and vote in big numbers in the three c's,
we already have enough people in Ohio to turn things
around in the state, especially in twenty twenty six, which
should be a good year. Every single state wide candidate's
on the ballot, the governor, the lieutenant governor, the auditor,
the treasurer of the attorney general, and so we actually
have an incredible opportunity in twenty twenty six try and

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break the supermajority, pick up some statewide elections. Send you know,
Greg Landsman and others back to Congress. Send Sharon Brown
back to the US Senate. Yes, because for the exact
reason that Miss Joan was talking about, housing prices are
too high, childcare is too high, Grocery prices are too high,
and we have a state government that's putting its head
in the sand and not doing anything about it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
Unbelievable. Well, Danny, I mean, Danny, Danny. All we can
do is just hope that you guys go there and
give us a good fight, fight for what we need
down here. Because those Republicans have lost their minds and
they don't give a damn about the people who put
them in office. They don't care if they starve or whatever.
They just don't care well.

Speaker 3 (01:05:05):
And our job is to fight as hard as we
can and to find opportunities to get some stuff done
when we can. Right, we don't get to put bury
our heads in the sand, because our communities need us
to be up there having an impact even from the
super minority. Right, it's way harder to get a bill
passed as a Democrat and a legislature with mostly Republicans,

(01:05:25):
but you can still do it. It just takes four
years instead of six months. But our job is to
fight that fight for all four years to get it done.
And we have a state legislative delegation between Cecil Thomas,
Karen Brownlee, Ashley Bryant Bailey or newest member Rachel Baker
from down here in Cincinnati that is able to deliver
even though we are a small help but mighty super minority.

(01:05:46):
And that's my role as the Democratic leader is not
only help us pick up seats and grow our power,
but actually help our members have an impact. Even in
the situation we've got now and so we are able
to get some bipartisan things done using the relationships we've built,
and we still fight them on all the big issues
that we disagree on, and so it's got to be both.

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
All right, Donnie Isaacson, great talking to you. We'll do
this again next month.

Speaker 3 (01:06:11):
I'll be coming one last plug for my toy drive.

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
Sure, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:06:13):
This is my fourth annual toy drive. I do an
in partnership with the Seven Hills Neighborhood House in the
West End. This year, Judge Kerry Bloom is joining as well.
It's gonna be on Thursday. So if folks need toys
for their families, you can sign up with Seven Hills
Neighborhood House and we'll be there I think starting an
eleven or twelve on Thursday, given out toys. In the

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past we've given out toys for between five hundred and
one thousand families. Hopefully this year is even bigger. But
you know, it's something that it's a really it's both
a happy day and a reminder of how much need
there is in our communities. So and if folks have
toys to donate, you can drop them off with the
Seven Hills neighborhood house between now and Thursday.

Speaker 2 (01:06:52):
All right, sounds good to me. Thank you for joining
me this morning, appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:56):
Thanks so much. Happy holladays.

Speaker 4 (01:06:57):
Everyone, all right, let's take a break and then we'll
come back. Twelve thirty the buzz she again. Yeah, Carl Carlton.
She's a bad ma'am gemma passed away yesterday. And of
course my favorite song is Everlasting Love by Carl Carlton.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
Uh Yeah. Born in nineteen fifty three December fourteenth, nineteen
May twenty first, nineteen six fifty three, died on December fourteenth,
twenty twenty five yesterday, out of Detroit. Yeah, he was
when he started his career in the mid fifties, he
was little Carl Carlton. I mean in the mid sixties

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he was a little Carl Carlton and eventually changed that
name to just Carl Carlton. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:07:46):
His first single was with Black Beat Records. Yes, died
at the age of seventy two. She's a bad mamma
jama all right, the late Carl Now.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
Who called that in? Who called that in?

Speaker 14 (01:08:07):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
Ray ray call that in? No slide from Detroit and
then Pharaoh called after sly Okay, everybody wants to get
credit for being the first to pass that information along.
Unbelievable and he Carl Carlton being from Detroit. Sly is
from Detroit, so we know Sly had to get it

(01:08:31):
in real quick. Yeah, but yeah, Carl Carlton, Bad Mama,
Jamma and Everlasting Love one of my favorite songs.

Speaker 4 (01:08:43):
You played that the next one, Chad, every Lasting Love.
I love that song. All right, let's get to the phones.
Every line is busy, so I might as well get busy.
Let's go to Dallas, Texas and talk to Brent. Look
like it's over for my Dallas Cowboys down there, Brent.

Speaker 8 (01:09:00):
Oh, it was over for them at the beginning season,
like every year for the past twenty nine years.

Speaker 4 (01:09:04):
They're like the Bengals. They're like the Bengals, but at
least they have one Super Bowl.

Speaker 8 (01:09:08):
So yeah, yeah, yeah, Carl Carlton, he had one of
those Stony Jackson or what was his name, Johnny Kip
style Jerry Curls back in the day. Yes, yes, well yeah,
but that was a jam you know, she's a bad
member of Gymer was definitely yeah, dam oh yeah, but yeah,
let's let's talk about uh Trump and white people tackistockracer. Remember,

(01:09:35):
is a government ran by the most incompetent and unscrupulous people.
And I'm sure everyone could agree that Christy nom RKGJ.

Speaker 7 (01:09:45):
And your Pam Bond, the cash Fattil.

Speaker 8 (01:09:48):
And Pete scept are some of the most unqualified unqualified.

Speaker 4 (01:09:54):
I mean, they don't need to be where they are.
That's that's the truth right there. They don't know what
the hell they are.

Speaker 8 (01:10:00):
I agree, Yeah, that is w e I white, entitled
and incompetent. That's exactly what they are. And did you
hear about the black farmers saying telling Trump, hell now,
we don't want your money, right, you know, because the
white farmers and the Republicans are the ones that are

(01:10:21):
trying to sue or who are currently sowing to keep
them from getting the money, who are discriminated yep. And
you know, the black farmers are good because their contracts
ain't tied through the government. They have they've gone to
alternative markets because they've always had to in order to
survive those who were able to hang on. So so

(01:10:42):
it's just it's hilarious. And Trump said he's not gonna
give it out until February so if that's that February, Yeah,
farmers don't bank on that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:51):
You ain't just like people banking on their two thousand
dollars from Trump.

Speaker 7 (01:10:55):
Yep, yep.

Speaker 8 (01:10:57):
And that is just insane in itself. Yeah, when with
Connie Pillage, you know, kudos for her finally, you know,
vindicating mister Jones.

Speaker 7 (01:11:08):
Yes, but it shouldn't have taken.

Speaker 8 (01:11:12):
A fresh set of eyes to find all the things
she claimed she and her first lieutenant or whatever was
found out.

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
Well, I guess.

Speaker 4 (01:11:21):
I mean, if the old set of eyes are the
ones that were there when this whole thing started, yeah,
you need a fresh set of eyes.

Speaker 8 (01:11:29):
But what she's talking about was damn near obvious. Where
just the basic of the with the whole whatever disease
that the lady.

Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
Had, hepatitis B.

Speaker 8 (01:11:39):
Yeah, just with that end of itself. But that's not
their goal. That was the beater's goal. You know, Deeters
wants to keep his prosecutorial conviction rate high, you know,
because he could go to the white folks.

Speaker 7 (01:11:53):
Look, I'm tough.

Speaker 8 (01:11:54):
I don't care if I Raire waded this black man
and and for her to to play I don't want
to say she played dumb, but you've heard of Hurricane Carter. Yeah,
you've heard of the Scottsboro Boys, right, yeah, oh yeah, yeah,
you definitely heard of the Central Park five where you

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have prosecutorial mis conduct and police misconduct.

Speaker 5 (01:12:20):
So that's one of the main.

Speaker 8 (01:12:22):
Reasons why I don't give them jokers the benefit of
the doubt whenever they come out with their story and
have everything framed and everything, No, you got a history
of being dirty. And until you go out of your way,
because until she gets rid of those prosecutors have involved
in the case.

Speaker 2 (01:12:38):
Once she said they're gone, they're gone, they retired.

Speaker 8 (01:12:40):
They retired, Okay, well beaters are still around. She should
whatever mechanism you have there in the state of Ohio
to go after these past prosecutors who illegally prosecuted that man.
Until you get rid of the so called see until
you get rid of the bad actors, how can we
trust anything that's still in there, because a lot of

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those prosecutors learned underneath.

Speaker 2 (01:13:02):
The Now he's on the State Supreme Court. He's on
the State Supreme Court, now, yep.

Speaker 8 (01:13:07):
Yep, And that is the problem. Yes, yeah, yeah, So
it's that's pretty much all I have for today. We
got cold down here, y'all said, from that cold there
down here, we got down to like twenty nine degrees.

Speaker 2 (01:13:19):
Oh boy, I wish for twenty nine, you know. All right,
all right, that's Brent. Let's go to Ray.

Speaker 8 (01:13:29):
Ray, what's up, blinking?

Speaker 2 (01:13:31):
What's going on?

Speaker 7 (01:13:33):
Here's who I'm going to blame for Elwood Jones.

Speaker 8 (01:13:36):
You have to blame Deers because he said that the
evidence he with hell wouldn't have made a difference to
the jury. That's not for him to decide, right right, right.
You blame Mike Allen because he had a chance to review.
I don't know if anybody brought it up to Mike Allen.
Remember he served two terms as proper utor. Yes, so

(01:13:58):
you blame Mike Allen. You might want to blame the
And I hate to say this, but even the family
of the lady who died because they just wanted someone
to pay. They really didn't care who was right.

Speaker 2 (01:14:13):
They wanted someone to pay. And now they're upset because
she dropped the charges after thirty years. I mean, I
mean seemed like they said, okay, well least we got
thirty years and okay, let's move on. But now they're
upset at Connie Pillage for dropping the charges.

Speaker 8 (01:14:27):
Yeah, but not only that, Lincoln. They shouldn't be upset
at all because you want the actual person that did it. Now,
if Elwood Jones is not the actual person that did it,
that means the guy still out there.

Speaker 4 (01:14:37):
Who's the person that these witnesses pointed at that the
prosecutors ignored, right, right?

Speaker 8 (01:14:43):
And chances are if twelve people, twelve people said he was,
that was that person. As the family of this lady,
you would saying, get the right right and not the
wrong person.

Speaker 11 (01:14:54):
Right?

Speaker 8 (01:14:55):
You see what I mean?

Speaker 9 (01:14:56):
I hear you.

Speaker 8 (01:14:57):
So there's a lot of people to blame. But so
Lincoln Farrell, now this has shows you how much he
knows nothing about football. He says, one of his top
three is Rinaldo near Miyah.

Speaker 7 (01:15:08):
Right.

Speaker 8 (01:15:09):
You know how many years he played in the NFL? Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:15:12):
Two?

Speaker 7 (01:15:13):
Was it two years? He played two years?

Speaker 8 (01:15:15):
I looked it up.

Speaker 4 (01:15:16):
It seemed like parall just like the sprinters as wide receivers.
Bob Hayes, Right, what about.

Speaker 8 (01:15:23):
What I mean, what about Randy Moss or Kirk Carter?
You know, Jerry Rice. You know I would throw as
far as running backs, I would put Emma Smith in there.

Speaker 3 (01:15:34):
You know he's the talk I mean Isaac Curtis.

Speaker 2 (01:15:36):
You could put Isaac Curtis in there.

Speaker 8 (01:15:38):
Yeah, so so Pharaoh do some research when it comes
to football. He knows nothing about it, you know what
I mean?

Speaker 4 (01:15:48):
Yes, I hear you right. Thanks for your Kyle unbelievable.
Let's take a break.

Speaker 2 (01:15:53):
We'll come back.

Speaker 7 (01:15:54):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:15:54):
Caleb two D J Key, Rick Junior and Jay Raise.

Speaker 4 (01:15:59):
Line is available at five one, three, seven four nine,
twelve thirty. The Lincoln Were Show twelve thirty The buzz
to Day out of Detroit.

Speaker 2 (01:16:10):
Carl Carlton all right, five one, three seven four nine,
twelve thirty. Remember they go in threes, so look for
three black R and B singers to die within a month.
We'll say Carl Carlton is number one. They go in threes.
I'm telling y'all they go in threes. All right, Rick Jr.

Speaker 7 (01:16:33):
Ow you doing there pretty good? Sorry about the bigel.
I guess you didn't cheap hope a strong enough? Well,
I can't talk well, as.

Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
They always say, we got to do better.

Speaker 7 (01:16:48):
Yeah, oh, I'd call it you about the passion of
Robin and.

Speaker 4 (01:16:54):
Yes, yes, they was stabbed to death I guess by
their son who stabbed him to death. And I used
to love him as meat head and all in the family.

Speaker 2 (01:17:04):
That show. All in the family. They got away with
stuff that they couldn't dare get away with today because
everybody's so politically correct. They said some stuff that was boy,
he put gay people down, like you wouldn't believe.

Speaker 4 (01:17:19):
Oh man, this guy put black people down. They couldn't
get away with that stuff today.

Speaker 7 (01:17:25):
Yeah, that's true. Oh and I'm glad that jole why
they saw the life it was leased that job. But
they said they murdered that lady and that blue ash
or something.

Speaker 2 (01:17:36):
Oh yeah, yeah at Elwood Jones, Elwood Jones.

Speaker 7 (01:17:39):
Yes, did you keep up with what happened to William J. Mayo?

Speaker 8 (01:17:46):
Mayo?

Speaker 2 (01:17:47):
Is he got out of jail and he died.

Speaker 7 (01:17:50):
He passed, right, Yeah, yeah, that's the same. And he
was locked up with what seventeen years?

Speaker 2 (01:17:56):
It was a lot. I can't remember exactly how many,
but it was a lot. His mother is on Facebook live.

Speaker 7 (01:18:02):
Here now this joan. But they owe him some cash, right,
how many how many dollars they owe him for every
year he was locked up or something?

Speaker 2 (01:18:11):
Say what now.

Speaker 7 (01:18:13):
You're a gentleman. They release the County owes him a
bunch of bucks.

Speaker 2 (01:18:19):
Oh well, yeah, it's the state that will have to pay.
It'll be the state.

Speaker 9 (01:18:25):
Yes, How does that work?

Speaker 2 (01:18:28):
I don't know how they look at him.

Speaker 4 (01:18:30):
I think they look at how much your earnings were
when you got arrested, and then they multiply that by
thirty and then add a little bit for pain and
suffering us whatever. I don't know, I think that's how
they do it. I'd have to ask somebody, like if
a non rucker or somebody like that, who could tell
you how how they figure that stuff out?

Speaker 7 (01:18:51):
Okay, okay, well thanks locking.

Speaker 2 (01:18:55):
All right, thanks for your call. Dj key. What's going on?

Speaker 11 (01:19:00):
Help the spanker speak of? How you Lincoln?

Speaker 2 (01:19:02):
Pretty good? What's up?

Speaker 11 (01:19:03):
A lot of a couple of things, and i'nna quick.
One of the things I read I was just reading
this morning about the Bengals being in violation. Is that
what you were speaking about, but.

Speaker 2 (01:19:14):
Not cleaning the seats?

Speaker 8 (01:19:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (01:19:16):
Yeah, the NFL, yeah said said they were in violation.

Speaker 2 (01:19:21):
Well, I think the NFL came back and said they didn't.
They really didn't violate anything. They did the main things
they were supposed to do, and they're.

Speaker 11 (01:19:29):
Supposed to people because and they had they had the
reading of I guess you can cause their loll how
doing snow on ice, how the stadium is supposed to
be and it's not supposed to be ice on seats,
snow on seats, all those type of things. Yeah, you know,
and it's got listed. That's why they say those in violations.
That people is using credit cards trying to get the

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ice off the seat.

Speaker 4 (01:19:52):
I know, I know that's great, and then you're gonna
sit on a cold seat like that that I mean,
offer free tickets.

Speaker 11 (01:20:00):
I remember the last time I went down there when
I had free tailers. It was cold. I walked through it,
I walked out of it. Yeah, you know, the water
coming off.

Speaker 2 (01:20:08):
I was shocked at how many I was wondering. I
was shocked how many people actually did show up for
the game yesterday.

Speaker 11 (01:20:13):
That the air coming off, that river come off the
front man, that's just oh oh yeah. And you know,
while the guy was there, I wanted to ask him,
what kind of what kind of rights does the citizens have?
Do they have any legal recourse on what the state
that's doing a regarusted changing the marijuana laws that were
voted on it seemed like it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:31):
It seemed like some kind of lawsuit could be found.

Speaker 4 (01:20:35):
I'm not sure how that works, but it seemed like
the people who got that petition together and got it passed,
they should file some kind of suit against the state.

Speaker 11 (01:20:45):
I'm almost certain even though they're in a position they are,
but they just can't change. Just decided, you know, just
to throw out some things that was voted on. I mean,
I mean unless it was like something that was harmed
for the people or something like that, but it was
things that was bolder I think, I know, but you got, Hey,
the Supreme Court if there is a Republican, the House

(01:21:06):
is Republican, the Senate is Republican. I mean, it's a
weird how the people that support them, I don't know
what picture they're looking at. Yeah, because they're not doing things.
I think they think that they're gonna go down on
line and skip the RDS and only do things to
the deeds or something. You know, yes, yes, but that's

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not how did they Broadbush? When it comes down, it's
have and have not. If you don't have, you know,
they're gonna make sure you don't get yep, you know,
And that's just pretty said The last thing I want
to say, you know, when we since I'm speaking about
Republicans and Democrats and something neither, I just you know
a lot of things that happened last year. The majority

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of Counselor was Democrats, and I'm talking things like that
rent increase. I do not believe that out of the
blue they got blindsided by business coming here buying up
all these things. That's just that's just impossible. Not that
amount of money, not that amount of people, but that
like they got blindsided.

Speaker 2 (01:22:08):
Who got blindsided? Who got blindsided?

Speaker 11 (01:22:11):
Counselor act like they were blind sid everybody down that
like it was blindsided about what happened, Like they were
so surprised people came in buying a property, increasing the
rent and all those type of things like they had
they hadn't clue, they had no clue that that was
going on or that was even coming. That's just too
much money of all the believer.

Speaker 4 (01:22:29):
Well, not like they came in and bought up they
had already owned the property. They just kept going up
on rents over the years. They already had owned that property.

Speaker 7 (01:22:37):
Remember that.

Speaker 11 (01:22:38):
Remember I had complaints. As matter of fact, I thought
they were putting together some kind of artiness about outside
people buying them.

Speaker 2 (01:22:44):
Well they did. I think they did do something.

Speaker 4 (01:22:47):
I'm not sure if you can keep outside of from
buying property, but they put some guidelines up, I do believe.

Speaker 11 (01:22:54):
And the other quick thing the school funding. I know
that's Hamilton County thing, and I don't know how much
oversight or influence city council could have, but the school
funding cuts. To me, it sounds so ridiculous that now

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schools gotta merge.

Speaker 2 (01:23:16):
And they got to do all these Well you heard
from Donnie Isaacson. It's the state. It's those idiots up
at the State House, those Republicans that are doing all
this stuff.

Speaker 11 (01:23:27):
I mean, the thing is, they decided, but it was
decided apparently here that they can take public money and
pay for private schools, and then when there's a shortfall
in the public schools, it's their fault, something wrong with them,
something wrong with the system. And we need to merge
schools and stuff now.

Speaker 4 (01:23:48):
And there's more kids in the state going to public
schools than private schools, right, and they.

Speaker 11 (01:23:54):
And they decided they don't need all that money. We'll
take a billion so dollars and give it to ivate
schools and now public schools are underfunded. Yep, that's twisted,
a sick man, But I appreciate you giving me the time. Man.

Speaker 2 (01:24:09):
Republicans are twisted and sick then you I thought you knew.
Thanks for your call. Thanks for your call, all right. Five, one, three, seven, four, nine,
twelve thirty Lincoln were with you till one o'clock this afternoon,
And uh, I think we'll go to news and then
we'll come back.

Speaker 4 (01:24:27):
We got Caleb. Two, we got Bruman. Maybe he's allowed
to make a call. We'll talk to him on the
Lincoln were show twelve thirty The Buzz