The Lincoln Ware Rewind: July 28, 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:11):
I'm still on a speeding bullets.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
More powerful gonna locomotive.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
Hey won't believe all buildings at a single bound.

Speaker 4 (00:24):
I'm it's a pray.

Speaker 5 (00:27):
Lincoln, Lincoln, Lincoln for binga Bonana bengun bin bu man
gun Lincoln.

Speaker 6 (00:34):
They say that Cat Lincoln is a bad mother. We're
just talking about Lincoln.

Speaker 5 (00:41):
Good morning, Cincinnati. Welcome to twelve thirty w DBZ. We
are the buzz of Cincinnati. Your talk station. The Lincoln
were show Joe one o'clock this afternoon and who boy

(01:01):
for the weekend.

Speaker 6 (01:03):
Man, I'm tired. I'm still tired. You know. I need
one more day Today.

Speaker 5 (01:07):
After I get off, I'm going home and go to bed,
and then I think I'll be caught up.

Speaker 6 (01:12):
I think I'll be okay.

Speaker 5 (01:13):
I need one more day because I mean I've been
going from Thursday night.

Speaker 6 (01:19):
Till last night.

Speaker 5 (01:21):
Yes, and a lot of things going on over the weekend.
Of course, you had the hip hop concert Thursday, you
had Ricky Smiley Thursday morning, you had Ricky Smiley right
back Friday morning, and then I had to remote from
First Financial on Friday. After the Ricky Smiley show, I

(01:43):
just went right down the street, did the live broadcast
and man after that.

Speaker 6 (01:53):
It was the festival. Oh. After that, I went over
to the.

Speaker 5 (02:00):
To the underground Railroad Freedom Center where L COOLJ was
there and I had a little I Guesst seminar type thing.

Speaker 6 (02:09):
Then the people from Beyond.

Speaker 5 (02:11):
The Gates were there also, had to see my favorite
soap opera people. Then I even saw Kit no Cat
her name is Kat on the show. I saw Cat
at the festival Saturday night.

Speaker 6 (02:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:26):
So then of course Saturday morning we had the Cincinnati
Black Music Walk of Fame reached and they reached the
go they wanted two hundred and fifty thousand. By this
weekend they got two hundred and eighty five thousand, So
two hundred and eighty five thousand, and that show was
probably one of the best ever. I do believe this

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past Cincinnati Black Music Walk of Fame anniversary and inductees,
it was pretty much the best ever. Videos were great,
the bus on the bus and it was just great.
It was great, and the Dottie Peoples turned it out.
On that one man she even had me up doing
the Holy Dance. Yeah, and uh, I had my suit

(03:10):
on by Carlile. You know, I'm like a big start.
And you know how when you walk the red carpet,
everybody say what are you wearing?

Speaker 6 (03:17):
What are you wearing?

Speaker 7 (03:18):
No?

Speaker 5 (03:18):
What who are you wearing? And I was wearing Carlile Williams. Yes, yes,
uh he made that just for me. How about that?
And uh, I thought it would look pretty good. I
got the stamp of approval from Sharon war and if
she gives me the stamp of approval, then I'm okay.
If she said okay, that's all right, then I know,

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you know, I'm borderline, you know. But she gave the
thumbs up stamp of approval and all the groups at
the first Friday Night was great with Earth Wind and Fire.

Speaker 6 (03:54):
They turned to Anthony Hamilton and was a shocker.

Speaker 5 (03:57):
I said, oh man, he's gonna die when after winning Fire,
he's gonna come out there and people are gonna be
heading for the exits. And he held him there and
put on one heck of a show. I thought, Anthony Hamilton, Yeah,
so that was good. Let's see what Then Saturday night,
man Tony Braxton looking good L L KOOJ brought out

(04:19):
Revend Run Rev Run was there. Yeah, that was a shocker.
He came out and then the tribute to Maze. Of course,
the rain, we had some lightning and everybody had to leave,
and a lot of people say they didn't explain well.
And it was a recorded, pre recorded message for I
guess Bengal Games, and people were saying we left, they

(04:42):
didn't explain it right and this and that. We didn't
we thought it was over. So anyway, if you didn't
come back, you missed the heck of a show at
the end. But it was a great weekend. Of course,
we had our issues going on. Of course, everybody who
is anybody's probably seen the big video that's going around

(05:03):
where this white guy was and his wife were beating
up badly by a group of black folks. They saw
that video, but what they didn't see was the video
what earlier, what prompted to fight. See At first, it
was just you know, people arguing and they were trying
to separate the two. But the white guy reached around

(05:26):
somebody and slapped the black guy.

Speaker 6 (05:29):
And why did he do that? He had to be drunk.

Speaker 5 (05:32):
I'm sure he was drunk, because alcohol would have been
the only thing to make you try to fight somebody
in a big situation. Like you look around, you'll see
nothing but black folks, and you go try to fight somebody.

Speaker 6 (05:44):
He had to be drunk. I'm just guessing, you know,
I'm just guessing.

Speaker 5 (05:51):
And so he had to be drunk to try to
fight a whole bunch of black folks downtown on festival weekend.

Speaker 6 (06:00):
So they got into a big fight.

Speaker 5 (06:01):
He got stumped and kicked, and the one guy did
the one of those WWE moves where he ran up
and just.

Speaker 6 (06:09):
Pounced on him. Oh my goodness.

Speaker 5 (06:11):
And then the wife, she got punched in the face
and she went back and hit the cement and her
eyes I said she.

Speaker 6 (06:18):
Did because her eyes were wide open and she wasn't moving.
I'm like, she looks like she's dead.

Speaker 5 (06:24):
But she finally came around, and I mean it was
a big You hate to see stuff like that happening,
but man, I tell you. And they had a few
other little fights around town too, But overall, I would
say it was a great, peaceful weekend. I didn't hear

(06:45):
of anybody getting shot. Just heard of some people getting
beat up, not shot. But it was great. It was great.
It was a great weekend. We got through another one.
I got booed by Chicago and Detroit and who else

(07:05):
the Cleveland because we brought who they out on the stage,
the Bengo mascot. And so I said, uh, what animal
can can eat a bear? You put him in the cage,
and you know what animal can eat a bear? And
you know, and I said, a Bengo can eat Chicago bear,
you know. And they I said, Bengo can eat a

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Detroit lion. I said, a Bengo sure can't eat some brownies.

Speaker 6 (07:31):
You know.

Speaker 5 (07:34):
I figure we but we had who they out there
on the stage. He was even at the festival, dancing
and everything. He's got a little rhythm. He's got to
be a black guy in there. He's got to be black.
There's no white guy alive that's got rhythm like who they.
So I'm gonna say he's a black guy in there.
He never talks. I don't know what he sounds like,

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because I never heard him talk. When you talk to
you know, they have handlers. They had like two people
follow him around everywhere, and so when he wanted to talk,
he would call this lady off to the side and
then he would talk to her.

Speaker 6 (08:10):
Nobody could hear him talk, you know.

Speaker 5 (08:13):
I guess we could tell whether he was black or white,
just listening to him talk, but we never did hearing.
But I'm guessing by the way he was dancing, and yeah,
I think he was all right. I think he's a
he's a brother because you know he's got rhythm. Okay,
all right, let's see when did I miss anything. I

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was on the Square yesterday with the Sunday Soul Classics
Terrence Howard from three to four, and Michelle A came
on after me. I mean, I just can't understand how
she talks like that and then sings different.

Speaker 6 (08:48):
It's just amazing. It's amazing.

Speaker 5 (08:51):
We were back there in the back and we're talking
and I just, you know, I'm just I don't hear
her anything she's saying.

Speaker 6 (08:57):
I'm just listening to her voice. I don't know what
the hell she was telling me.

Speaker 5 (09:00):
I'm just listening to that voice. And then she gets
out there and starts seeing it was unbelievable.

Speaker 6 (09:12):
Unbelievable.

Speaker 5 (09:15):
And then had a birthday party to after the Sunday
Soul Classics on the Square. It wasn't over for me yet.
I had to go to a birthday event over at
Jeff Ruby's at six o'clock. I was like, geez, so
I said, I can't stay out here in the hot,
because I was done around four point thirty.

Speaker 6 (09:33):
So I say, I can't stay out here in the hot.

Speaker 5 (09:35):
I'm just going over to a roof and we'll sit
at the bar until the rest of the people come.

Speaker 6 (09:40):
So we went over there.

Speaker 5 (09:41):
Sharon got a ginger ale, you know she's not a drinker,
and I got me margarita on the rocks with salt.
You know, I needed to put salt back in my
body from all that sweating I had been doing. Yes,
And you know, they used to give you salt pills
back in the day when we used to run track

(10:03):
and stuff and were sweating hot.

Speaker 6 (10:05):
They actually used.

Speaker 5 (10:06):
To give you salt pills to take. And I could
tell I had been losing a lot of salt because
my legs were cramping up. I had some magnesium the
doctor gave me about a year ago, so I still
had some magnesium tableists left, so I took some of
those to get rid of those muscle cramps.

Speaker 6 (10:28):
Unbelievable. So that's been. That was my weekend.

Speaker 5 (10:32):
From Thursday morning until last night. It was like none stop,
none stop. I'm so glad we stayed downtown. Then have
to drive back and forth, back and forth, back and forth.
You know, stayed downtown and that made things a whole

(10:53):
lot easier. Let's see where else am I? Where am
I here?

Speaker 6 (11:02):
Man?

Speaker 5 (11:03):
But the fight seems to be the big thing everybody's
talking about. Elon Musk even commented on the fight. Oh man, uh,
talking about the woke generation is taken over. I was
kind of crap. He commented on the fight. Elon Musk,
It's unbelievable, unbelievable. All right, we need to take a

(11:28):
break and then we'll come back. I got a quick
guess coming in. Uh, And we'll talk to her for
about for a few minutes, and then we'll take your calls.
Five one, three, seven, four, nine, twelve thirty. It's lincoln Ware.
We're twelve thirty the buzz Sinnati. You're at talk station.

(11:48):
It's lincoln Ware. And let's go downtown to the crime
Stopper headquarters and check it with my good friend, doctor
Detective Tiffany Green. And she was down at the remote
on Friday along with the detective Todd Green. And uh,
welcome to the show. How you doing, what's going on?
Who are we looking for?

Speaker 8 (12:04):
Good morning, Lincoln How you doing.

Speaker 5 (12:08):
I'm good.

Speaker 8 (12:08):
How are you this morning?

Speaker 6 (12:09):
Hanging in there? Hanging in there?

Speaker 1 (12:10):
Now?

Speaker 6 (12:11):
Did you go to the festival either night?

Speaker 8 (12:13):
Oh no, I didn't.

Speaker 6 (12:14):
Okay, all right, okay, just checkie, just check it.

Speaker 8 (12:18):
I came down on Saturday and I went to an
event at the Weston.

Speaker 5 (12:22):
Oh okay, okay, all right, all right. And it was
good to see you Friday. Good to see you Friday.

Speaker 8 (12:28):
You know why you enjoy yourself?

Speaker 7 (12:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (12:31):
You scare me with that big weapon on you know.
You scare me When I see you got that big
weapon on your side there.

Speaker 6 (12:37):
I'm like, oh, don't shoot me please? All right? Who
are we looking for today?

Speaker 8 (12:44):
Random Michael Bowen is wanted by the Ohio Adult Parole
Authority for a felony parole violation. Mister Bone was originally
charged with receiving selling property. Random Michael Bone is a
mel White. He's forty years old. He's five eight and
one hundred and forty pounds. Brandon Michael Bone has no

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known criminal history and was last known to live in Hamilton, Ohio.
The Cincinnati Police Department is looking for James Johnson. Mister
Johnson is wanted for felony failure to comply with police officer,
felony probation violation and misdemeanor falsification. On June sixteenth, twenty
twenty five, during a traffic stop, mister Johnson provided police

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with false information and then fled from the traffic stop.
James Johnson is a mel Black twenty six years old.
He's five eight and one hundred and eighty seven pounds.
James Johnson has a history of instructing official business and
last known to live on Warwick Avenue in Avondale. Listeners,
If anybody has information on where police can find Brandon,

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Michael Bone or James Johnson, please call crime Stoppers at
five P one three three five to two thirty forty
or submitted tip online at crime desk.

Speaker 5 (14:01):
All right, three five forty night or day. And there's
cash money for your clues. And you have a busy
week this week? Are you just doing your regular You're
still doing double duty?

Speaker 6 (14:13):
I mean you're still wrapping up.

Speaker 8 (14:15):
I am, I'm still closing out cases on the other side, Yeah,
we have a jump af week. What about you?

Speaker 5 (14:22):
Hopefully I can get some sleep and catch up all
my sleep, but other than that, oh, I'll be at
the stagger Lee's on Friday.

Speaker 6 (14:29):
I think Stagger Lee's.

Speaker 5 (14:31):
Oh that's the new liquor store on Elm Street in
over the Rhine.

Speaker 6 (14:36):
I'll be there Friday. Interesting, So you feel like coming
down there, come on by.

Speaker 8 (14:42):
Okay, I'll come. I'll drop by and see you.

Speaker 6 (14:45):
Okay, all right, we'll talk to you. All right.

Speaker 5 (14:48):
Let's Detective Tiffany Green from Crime Stoppers and in the
studio with me Danielle Marshall from the National Council of
Negro Women. I had to get I always got it reversed.
The National Council of Negro Women. You guys got a
big week coming in coming up, big August coming up.
Tell us about what's going on the National Council of

(15:09):
Negro Women.

Speaker 9 (15:11):
Thank you, Thank you so much. Mister Lincoln, very happy
to be here. The National Council of Negro Women, Cincinnati
section is very excited about our inaugural weekend for Charter
weekend coming up the weekend of August eighth through the tenth.
So we're kicking it all weekend and that's a pretty
big weekend for Cincinnati. I know a lot of things
are going on, and so we having a range of

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things that are diverse for every group intergenerational to attend
for our own organization and others as well. So that
Friday night we're going to be at Madison Bowl. We're
kicking it up there with our gutter Ball Bowl off
to kick off our charter Day weekend where we ask
teams of six to come together and that six person
team will register for sixty bucks and then that includes

(15:53):
two rounds of bowling and also your food and beverage
for that night. But for every gutter ball you get,
you owe us ten bucks per gutter ball.

Speaker 6 (16:01):
Oh yeah, God, that's the caveat at all and.

Speaker 9 (16:04):
We're gonna match it for scholarships making. So get your
teams together so you can get an award the trophy
for either being the worst bowling or the best bowler
that night. So every gutter every gutter you owe us
ten bucks.

Speaker 6 (16:17):
So we're excited about it.

Speaker 9 (16:19):
So line up your players and your teams and come
on through fat Friday night beginning at seven pm at
Madison Bowl, all right, And then that next day we're
kicking it on up to Hamilton, so we're across the
tri state with our celebrations. We're going to Lake Lindsay
for our VET and for those that don't know what
a vet is, it's a fancy word for carnival and

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outdoor festivities, and that's exactly what we're going to do.
It's an indoor, outdoor experience where we'll have black vendors,
will have black excellence. Our VIP area has caviar bumps
and lamb lollipops. We're bringing in Go Go music to
honor our headquarters in DC and the DMV area of course,
with the deal Breakers coming in town to just grace
us with their prey, and so it's going to be

(17:00):
a really nice night. We're doing some raffles, we're having
great food. It's open bar, all included. And right now
we have a great opportunity for you to grab tickets
at a discount rate MP twenty one for the month
of July and that'll get you fifteen dollars off of
your tickets there. And then that Sunday we're ending it
off with praise service at our parliamentarian and our in

(17:23):
house chaplain, Sister Tracy Hunter's church. And so that's going
to be at ten thirty a m August tenth, and
that's at Western Hills Brethren in Christ Church at ten
thirty am, and that's at twenty eight to fifteen Roberts Avenue.
So we're excited about the entire weekend. And then of
course you know that next weekend we all kick it

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off in the city with the BFR celebration. You know
that doctor Dorothy Hyatt, you know, our longest running president,
did actually create and come up with. So we're excited
about that too. Come and check us out at the
Senior Pavilion there as well.

Speaker 5 (17:56):
All right, well, sound like you're going to be busy
for the next Yes, I am, but I liked I
like that bowling ten dollars for every gutter ball a
good fundraising gain some people, you know, they got to
throw those gutter balls when they looked all right.

Speaker 6 (18:10):
Well, thank you Danielle Marshall for stopping by.

Speaker 5 (18:13):
We appreciated, and good luck on all the events coming
up with the National Council of Negro Women.

Speaker 9 (18:18):
Thank you very much.

Speaker 6 (18:19):
All right, it's been a pleasure, Thanks for stopping by.
All right, let's move along.

Speaker 5 (18:23):
Five one three seven four nine, twelve thirty Lincoln, Where
with you till one o'clock this afternoon? And uh hey,
the phone number five one three seven four nine twelve
thirty and uh.

Speaker 6 (18:34):
Boy, a lot to talk about.

Speaker 5 (18:37):
I did see Jay Wright's friend that he said was
coming up to Cincinnati. I said, this guy would never
find me. I'm moving around too much. But he did
find me on Fountain Square, of all places. I ran
into a Jay Wright's friend down on Fountain Square, yes, yesterday.

Speaker 6 (18:54):
So he did manage to find me. He did manage
to find me. See, Tony Braxton was pretty good. She's
still looking good.

Speaker 5 (19:03):
Terrence Howard, Tony Braxton looking good on Saturday night.

Speaker 10 (19:08):
Yeah, Lincoln, I got a question for you. Yes, So
between Detective Tiffany Green's voice and Michelle Lay's voice, which
one has? Are they similar or there's a difference.

Speaker 5 (19:20):
Now there's a difference. There's a difference. Detective Green just
sounds like a young, a young girl. Michelle A sounds
like you've released some oxygen in her mouth.

Speaker 6 (19:32):
You know how you talk with ox is it helium?

Speaker 5 (19:35):
I mean helium? And you know how you that's how
she sounds. Oh okay, yeah, so yeah, Detective Greens just
sound like a young, young lady. And uh, Michelle A
sounds like helium has been released in her mouth.

Speaker 6 (19:49):
Yes, all right, all right, let's move along.

Speaker 5 (19:57):
Five one, three, seven, four, nine, twelve thirty Lincoln, weere
with you, and actually let's go ahead and take a
break before we start taking the calls. Everybody's lined up
ready to go, and we'll take your calls at five
one three seven the book Come to Lincoln, Lincoln awhere

(20:17):
and uh, yes, I'm gonna go ahead and tell you.

Speaker 6 (20:19):
Yes.

Speaker 5 (20:20):
I have invited Chris Smitherman on the show today and
he's fired up over the lawlessness as he says in Cincinnati,
and he says the mayor is not doing enough, and
we'll hear what he has to say at eleven Chris Smithman. Yes,

(20:43):
all right, let's go to the phones. We'll start off
with the Kevin Farmer. How you doing, Kevin.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
Hey, So we're condoling, we're condoning to jump on white people. Now,
that's what we're condoling. Lincoln. It was it's okay to
jump on white people.

Speaker 6 (20:59):
No, it's not okay, and it's not okay to slap.

Speaker 5 (21:01):
People either, But okay, now, hold on, hold on, hold on.

Speaker 6 (21:06):
Just let me say this.

Speaker 5 (21:08):
If the people should have let the when the white
guy slap the black guy, they just shouldn't let them
fight if it was going to be a fight, just
let those two fight because they seem to have the beef.
But then when you, uh, when you gang up on
the one guy because he slapped the other guy, that's
a whole other thing.

Speaker 6 (21:25):
They shouldn't just let the two guys go at it.

Speaker 5 (21:27):
But they were trying to separate everybody and keep peace
when the white guy reached out and slapped the dude,
and then you know, all bets were off then. But
like I say, they should have just let those two fight.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
And so so it's okay to and it's okay to
hit a white woman too.

Speaker 6 (21:45):
No that's not okay.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
No, No, I'm I'm like, I'm just saying, it's just
my thing is it looks it looks it looks like
hate crime.

Speaker 11 (21:55):
And it looks like that.

Speaker 6 (21:56):
It looks like that.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
And they're calling for it, and my thing is, I'm
gonna tell I'm gonna tell my I'm gonna tell my
black people, is y'all, y'all we're looking like an embarrassment
and we are embarrassing our city right now because right
now we've made national news again this year and it
doesn't look good for the wrong thing.

Speaker 5 (22:18):
And so what do you think, because I mean, how
does how does anybody stop a fight like that? How
does anybody stop a fight like that? I mean guarantee
none of they had a couple of fights. I gotta
I saw a video of another fight at a different place,
and I just don't The thing that gets me how
long does it take for a cop? I mean, the

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cops are never around when they do this. There's never
a cop around when they fight like this. So I
know they had cops down at the stadium and all
in that area.

Speaker 6 (22:49):
They were spread thin this week, I will agree with that.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
So you so so, Lincoln, Then next you got to
get on your city manager. Then that's Cheryl Longs that
Sharyl's long situation because she had them all down at
the Red Stadium and of the location.

Speaker 5 (23:01):
So well, hold on, first of all, there was a
Reds game that took up cops. There was the music festival,
there was things on Fountain Square. There were things going
on everywhere, So you can't expect the cop to be
on every corner.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
There's only nine hundred and fifty to nine hundred and
fifty five CPD officers in the city of Cincinnati.

Speaker 5 (23:22):
And hold on, stop right there, you can't put them
all downtown. You got Avondale, Walnut Hills, Evanston, you got
the West End.

Speaker 6 (23:29):
I mean you got Western Hills.

Speaker 5 (23:31):
You got like I said, they were spread down.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
Agreeing with you, I'm agreeing with you with Lincoln, I
thing exactly exactly what you said. How do we increase
hiring with our CPT, with our cp with our CPD office. Well,
if we got your side, defund the police.

Speaker 6 (23:46):
They're doing they're trying to do it now.

Speaker 5 (23:48):
They're even having lateral movement of hiring the police officers.
You can come from another department and work for CPD.
They're getting them from everywhere, recruits and other departments.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
So my question is to you is do you believe
that the Democratic Party have regrets on when that action
on defunding the police?

Speaker 6 (24:08):
What do you mean defunding?

Speaker 2 (24:10):
There hasn't been any action as a campaign, there was
a campaign on the.

Speaker 5 (24:15):
Okay, there was a campaign, but there hasn't been any
defunding of police.

Speaker 6 (24:19):
What do you maga people get this stuff?

Speaker 2 (24:22):
Well, this is the outcome of what happens when you
don't want Well, if there.

Speaker 5 (24:26):
Were defunding of the police, we wouldn't have a new
recruit class.

Speaker 6 (24:30):
We wouldn't be hiring for another recruit class.

Speaker 5 (24:32):
We wouldn't be hiring officers from other outside areas if
they were defunding.

Speaker 4 (24:37):
The police because you don't have enough officers.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
We already said said that. I'm just saying the outcome
of literally promoting defund the police has now promoting.

Speaker 5 (24:47):
It and actually doing it is two different things. Promoting
it and actually doing it is two different things. The
Cincinnati Police Department has not been defunded, So tell your
maga people that is, it's not happening you.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
But again, you have literally tookn and shripping the authority
from our officers to be able to do their job adequately,
to be able to handle situations, and they had slustered
into this.

Speaker 5 (25:11):
Okay, I got it. I gotta run. He's been on
too long. I got to run because he he's almost
sounds like a carbon copy of Chris Smithman. But we'll
find out when Chris calls. I sent him the number
inviting him to call. He's supposed to call in at
eleven o'clock, so we'll see, and we'll see if he
speaks the same language that he was speaking with Tom

(25:35):
Brenneman this morning. I heard him on Tom Brenneman, and
so we want to hear that same we want to
hear that same logic that he was giving Brenman. Let
let's not change things for the black community. Twin, How
in the hell are you?

Speaker 1 (25:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (25:49):
You both my bears huh uh.

Speaker 6 (25:52):
Yeah, I got I got your bears straight.

Speaker 7 (25:54):
Yeah yeah, I heard.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
I'll say, oh, he's clowning U.

Speaker 4 (26:02):
But that was a good one.

Speaker 7 (26:03):
I had the left talk too well.

Speaker 4 (26:07):
I at the left or noo.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
But you know, I had a good time. I can't
complain Lincoln. I was down there on Friday, right and Saturday,
and this guy was drunk, a white guy.

Speaker 7 (26:17):
He felled.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
He go talking about who hit him. I'll say, that
ground hit you. That's where it hit you. He was
leaking and everything. And so the other white guy, he
didn't know him. I say, may help me, help help me,
help du it up, man, because he leaking bad. And
I was like, man, you go in the yard house
or jumps to get you some napkins. Man, you need help.
He's like, no, I'm fine. You're not fine. So you

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like sit on this concrete or.

Speaker 7 (26:41):
Something like that, man, because you leaking bad. I was like, man,
I just tried to help you.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
Now you I guess you feel like I pushed you
or something like that.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
But he ain't hit that.

Speaker 7 (26:51):
Payment then you know, the young people down there and
his brother he was like, man, take.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
That somewhere else, don't.

Speaker 7 (26:56):
Bring that down here.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
Some girl like where y'all was at, we need to
jump up. And they was about the clown down there.
The brother stopped there. Tracy Mackie, that little news ain't.

Speaker 6 (27:08):
Colady Tricia yeah, Tricia mc yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
Yeah her yeah, she painted that. And they're all wrong. Man,
it's always got to be us US US US US man,
if you really start from the beginning and everything. It
was that white dude that slapped at the disabled man
who's mental. He slapped the first and the dude was
wrong for you know.

Speaker 5 (27:29):
Wait, wait, what are you talking about? The disabled man mental?

Speaker 12 (27:33):
He was?

Speaker 3 (27:34):
He was disabled mental man. That that white guy that slapped.

Speaker 5 (27:39):
No, the guy he slapped was up duking ready to
fight with him.

Speaker 3 (27:43):
They said he was disabled man.

Speaker 6 (27:45):
I don't know about that. I don't know about.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
That, but disabled mental man. Evidently somebody know m because
it was all on the chat in and the news
and everything else. News feeds, not the regular news, the
real news.

Speaker 7 (27:57):
So yeah, so he was wrong for slapping that. But Lincoln,
I don want to know this man. If it was
a Taylor Swift concert, don't you think the security be
beefed up like that? You Like you said, you got
nine hundreds some officers, Lincoln, I'm pretty sure they can
patrol the whole Cincinnati with now hunding some more.

Speaker 13 (28:17):
Well, I think, well yeah, But mentally, I mean, you
think if there's a Tailor Swift concert, in their minds,
they're thinking it won't be half as much violence and problems.

Speaker 5 (28:32):
Uh, if it was a music festival. You see what
I'm saying. In their minds, they're thinking, if it's black folks,
it's gonna be some violence. If it's white folks, everything's
gonna be okay. You might have a couple of people drunk,
but other than that that that's gonna be it. That's
in their minds. That's what they're thinking.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
Hey, Lincoln, you gotta you gotta money making concert. They
bring a lot of revenue to Cincinnati, and you mean
to tell me, y'all can't beef up security like that.
I think they're chief.

Speaker 5 (28:58):
Look, they had all hands on deck. Everybody who was
available was on duty.

Speaker 6 (29:04):
I don't know what else you want? Okay, what? Okay,
I don't I don't know what.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
You make what in patrol that they said they go
patrol the streets from four o'clock to three o'clock in
the morn.

Speaker 5 (29:16):
Wait, are you talking about the task force that they have.
I'm sure the task force was probably down this week.
Task force was probably on duty with security this week.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
Now you're blocking.

Speaker 5 (29:28):
I'm just telling you the task force was probably handling
security this weekend.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
Man, you had more rental cops down there on the
on the bank than police is everywhere Lincoln. Don't don't
block for the your people.

Speaker 5 (29:40):
Well, I know you had the Nation of Islam, the
Fruit of Islam on the square this weekend. I know
they were down there with the michel A. I don't
know who hired them, but they were there on duty
on the square this weekend.

Speaker 6 (29:53):
But I don't know. You say rental cops, I don't
know who you're talking about.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
The rental corps to be on the bank. They not
real when they patrol to check out this. If you
want to end you think it was a sin off name,
it was a what a sin off, you know, you know,
white folks and stuff. They can send them off and like, hey,
go go rouse something up towards these black folks or whatever.
You know, it's an election time and they do that.

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Do you know, like, hey, the chiefs ain't doing their jobs.
See what y'all get when y'all elect these people. You
think it was a sin off, some type set it up.

Speaker 5 (30:25):
You know, you never know. You never say. I don't
want to believe it. I don't want to believe that.

Speaker 6 (30:30):
Was a conspiracy.

Speaker 5 (30:31):
I don't think any white man would be the sacrificial
lamb to go down there and get the hell beat
out of him just order to make the mayor look bad.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
No better ams do it when they want to shake
your hand and blow you in them up. Oh boy,
all right, come on linky, all right man, thanks.

Speaker 6 (30:46):
For your call.

Speaker 5 (30:47):
Unbelievable, unbelievable. All right, let's go to Brent. Brent then
David Whitehead. Brent, how are you?

Speaker 4 (30:55):
I'm good off the Lincoln. You forgot us twin? Why
the hell he was sleeping on Friday?

Speaker 5 (31:00):
Yeah, I forgot about that. I'll get him on that
on Wednesday.

Speaker 4 (31:05):
Yeah, I tell you. Maybe it's all packing all that
or stacking all that almond milk on the third trick
that you work out, Yes, actually call in later on
it'll be all right.

Speaker 6 (31:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (31:16):
But but yeah, but you you referenced two wrestling moves
that they used during that fight, and being your resident
wrestling experts, one of them was the macho man elbow
drop with dude hit on dude that was on the ground. Yes,
and there was another dude that he did. He essentially

(31:37):
took his foot and slammed the dude's head into the ground.
That's seth Rolin's move called the curtain stock.

Speaker 6 (31:44):
Oh boy.

Speaker 5 (31:45):
So yeah, but see, that stuff is fake with wrestling.

Speaker 6 (31:50):
This was real.

Speaker 4 (31:53):
It's predetermined, scripted.

Speaker 6 (31:55):
That stuff is fake on wrestling. You know that stuff.

Speaker 4 (31:58):
Okay, when I come up there and let me curt
stop you.

Speaker 5 (32:00):
Face in a ring, they do that stuff. And I
noticed every time they hit somebody they stump their feet
to make it sound. You know, you gotta that stuff
is baked.

Speaker 4 (32:11):
Man. They get all the same injuries that happens that
occurs in football and basketball from corn Achilles squads, broken legs,
broken noses, the whole nine yards. But yeah, but w
e be the boys onto some real stuff. He wrote
a book called Black Reconstruction back in nineteen thirty five,

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and he talked about this concept of the psychological wages
of whiteness, and it's essentially it's benefits that white folks
and crew just for being white, and it served as
compensation for the rich white folks screwing them over. So
that's exactly what they're getting right now from Donald Trump,

(32:55):
is that they're getting a mental high or you know,
make some good to puff out their chests. All while
they're they're living in food expenses, they're going up. They're
getting their Medicare and Medicaid cut out down here in
Texas where all the folks in Hood County got swept
away because they decided not to take money from the

(33:15):
buying administration. But they can all lean on that fact
that they are white, and that's all they're getting right now.
But they don't care because, like I've told you before,
they would rather suffer a little less than us that
to thrive with us, because there's more in common with
with most of the white folks with black folks than
it is with with the elites that they look up to,

(33:38):
like Donald Trump and and Eve Bannon and what's his name,
delongated muskrat so, oh, yes, they they. I wouldn't call
it a mental illness because then they could use it
for an out. But it is definitely shows you that,
you know, there you have to be very mediocre in
sub part of buy into that. And and the rich folks,

(33:59):
you know, extremely rich folks, are just laughing at them, because.

Speaker 5 (34:04):
Yep they are. You're right, Hey, gotta run bred, Thanks
for your car. All right, let's take a break and
then we'll come back. It's Lincoln Where, twelve thirty the
buzz all right, five, one, three, seven, twelve thirty Lincoln
Where with your David Whitehead, president of the local chapter
of the NAACP.

Speaker 6 (34:25):
How are you.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
I'm doing good, Lincoln. I thought today we would be
talking about how great a concert it was and how
good a time we had because there was a lot
of people.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
Down there and enjoying themselves.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
Yes, yes, including me, so enjoying myself. But I want
to I want to speak on the the the lack
of quality and journalism that I'm seeing from our news
reporters where they're just only talking about the sensationalization of
the folks getting jumped. Now now, Number one, no man

(34:57):
should ever hit a woman, especially how that woman was.
That shit never happened. Uh, we can't and no one
should be stomping anybody. But we have to start with
the beginning of the story when the guy they there
were black individuals trying to break up the fight, and the.

Speaker 11 (35:14):
Guy came back.

Speaker 4 (35:15):
This is all on video, so if you're.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
Going to show the back part, show the front part.

Speaker 4 (35:19):
Two, let's be true.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
In regard to the narrative. It was bad that the
converse that the conversation is making it as if it's
a racial overtone of black people just randomly jumping on
some some some white couple. No, this was a guy
that kept pursuing the action and got the.

Speaker 11 (35:36):
Action and it hurt.

Speaker 5 (35:39):
And I'm saying he had to be drunk to want
to continue to do that when all these black people
are around.

Speaker 6 (35:44):
It had to be some liquid courage going on there at.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
Three o'clock and four o'clock in the morning, Lincoln, Yeah,
some something might have been going on extra in his
in his chemical makeup at that time. But you know,
we we have to not let the narrative be that
we don't have proper polices because there were enough police
down there, but it ain't enough to cover every inch
of downtown Cincinnati. It's just not gonna happen. Things happen

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at every event. There's events that happened regardless of the
race of the participants for their fights. I've been the
different venues, watching different sports games, different things, and there's
been fights. This was a fight that got out of
control and should have never happened if people would have
dispersed when it's broke up the first time. And it's

(36:33):
very disappointing that people are trying to politicize this and
make it as if there's not proper policing or proper
government oversight.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
This is just wrong.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
This is sensationalizing a stupid act and a stupid act
that continue to even further stupid acts. And we got it.
We can't feed into their narratives, we can't feed into
the Unfortunately, the party that wants to do way anything
black playing upon this, and I'm really disappointed in some

(37:05):
of the callers that are coming in and trying to
make it as if the politicians were it was their fault.
It's not.

Speaker 11 (37:12):
You can't.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
You can't put up a policy that stop people from
being stupid. This was a dumb act and we just
have to do better. So that's just it. Like it
was a great conference. Yea, lell came back and and
made it worth the wait out for the sunderstorm, so
you know, good things. We're probably gonna, unfortunately, have to
have a press conference on this. I want to have

(37:34):
a press conference on how great the vendor participation was,
how great things were downtown, opposed to talking about this foolishness.

Speaker 5 (37:43):
Yes, but okay, but negative, negative press always get the
most pressed, you know what.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
Yeah, but we got to push back against the narrative
and make sure that our journalists are telling the whole story.
Don't start with part of the story and then create
a narrative that is not true.

Speaker 5 (38:02):
And then have they talked about the beginning of the
video where the white man slaps the black guy.

Speaker 6 (38:07):
Do they talk about that? That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
Yeah, they didn't say anything about the black gentleman that
tried to break up the fight the first part of
the fight. And then they ain't say anything about those
people that were helping coming to the aid, trying to
help him up that happened to be black, So it
wasn't a racial overtone. As it got going, it was
stupidity with stupidity.

Speaker 5 (38:33):
All right, Hey, thanks for you calling David Whitehead, president
of the local chapter NAACP.

Speaker 6 (38:39):
Let's go to Ray. Ray, how are you?

Speaker 4 (38:41):
What's up?

Speaker 6 (38:42):
What's going on?

Speaker 1 (38:44):
You know, I.

Speaker 14 (38:46):
Took a week off last week and y'all didn't have
Rady kick around for a week.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
But now I'm back.

Speaker 6 (38:51):
We didn't even miss you.

Speaker 14 (38:55):
Yeah, I'm sure Brent did you know? He didn't have
anything to talk about out Lincoln. A couple of things. Uh,
I watched, well, I watched the news. I think it
was Fridaer Saturday, and uh, after that fight, there was
a news uh the start of the news. Uh, I
gottady the Channel twelve and Channel five. Uh, they came

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out and said that there was a fight, you know
on Fourth Street, fourth and Am. But she also said
that that fight had she said the white who reporter
was saying that had nothing to do with the the
you know, the music fest right right, so you had
some positive journalism going on out there. She made a
distinction and said that had nothing to do with the

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fest Lincoln. But uh, you know it's going to have
a field day with it. Is your boy Cunningham, He's
gonna talk about that to hold down three. I'm sure hello.

Speaker 6 (39:49):
Yeah, I said, I'm sure you will. Yes.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (39:52):
But Lincoln, as long as that January sixth video still exists,
by wife's h any showing any you know, any video
showing black fighting will always come in second. You know
how they try to uh, they try to say that
the January sixth riots was peaceful, Yes, yes, you know,
and all like that, you know, and headed by Trump,

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and some of them still believe that. So whatever they
show black's doing will come in second when it comes
to that January sixth video, they say January.

Speaker 5 (40:23):
If they say January sixth was peaceful, then I want
to tell them the video the black folks they were
doing a line dance.

Speaker 14 (40:30):
Yeah, you know, video showing black fighting or white or
white guy stabbed the multiple people in a Walmart.

Speaker 6 (40:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (40:39):
And you don't hear nothing about that, do you, Lincoln.

Speaker 6 (40:43):
Yeah, was on the news this morning.

Speaker 14 (40:45):
I mean they you know, they're not they're not talking
about it as much as a simple fight coming out
of a club. Yes, you know, and that happens pretty
much around the country all the time. Fights, yep, you know,
fights in Chicago, Detroit, LA, everywhere Lincoln. So you know,
and I don't know why Chris Millim is coming out.
What is he coming on for?

Speaker 11 (41:06):
Folks?

Speaker 5 (41:07):
He thinks that that the mayor of the city is
letting the city get out of control and he needs
to do more than he's doing.

Speaker 14 (41:16):
But you would expect him to say that, though, right,
because that's why he didn't run for Bear, because he
knew he was gonna lose. Well, so now all of
a sudden he's getting his ducks in a row. Maybe
he's going for a run or maybe not.

Speaker 5 (41:27):
But this time it was too late for this time.
But maybe in four more years, I don't know.

Speaker 14 (41:34):
Yeah, he's coming on to do what LG and and
a lot of other magis do. They come on to
down black folks. Now, ask him about the January sixth
was a peaceful Ask me about that stabbing in Walmart
by a white guy? How come that's how come he's
not on talking about that? You know, it's just you
let him on, And that's fine. I guess y'all made up.

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You know, he's coming on to down black folks. That's
the only thing I don't like about smith Man. He'll
go down the door.

Speaker 5 (42:01):
Let's wait, let's let's let's hear what he's gonna say
before we make any judgments.

Speaker 6 (42:07):
That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 14 (42:08):
But according to what David Wahe has said, we talk
about the violence, you know, I mean, you spent a lot,
you spend some time on the positive about about the
music stuff. You know, let's just do that and lead
the bashing to the white folks and in the white media.

Speaker 4 (42:25):
But we made that stuff ourselves.

Speaker 5 (42:27):
But you know we I mean, we didn't have to
do all the stuff we were doing. After the guy
was down on the ground one time, you know, let
him stay there, walk away, But it was like piling
on and hey, they would do that to it. They
would do the same thing to a black person if
I've seen him do the same to black people.

Speaker 14 (42:50):
Now, now you know how people get on down in
these teams, right, It wasn't teens fighting out now, God.

Speaker 6 (42:56):
They were not team They were not teens. No.

Speaker 14 (42:59):
Yeah, so the teams they're taking examples from the dunt
from the grown up. Yeah, you know, so that club
has something, you know, he's got to take responsibility, just
like the clubs on the banks. You know. But they
don't focus on on the owner of the banks, do they.

Speaker 5 (43:15):
No, there's no one owner of the banks. There's different clubs,
and they're owned by individuals, So I mean, you can't consciously,
you can't say the owner of the banks. There's no
really one owner of the bank of the banks.

Speaker 14 (43:32):
Well, but that one club where they always have that
fight at they're coming from that one club down there.

Speaker 5 (43:38):
Well, I mean, it seems like only the black clubs gets.
I walked past Rasconi's the other morning and I saw
the city City of Cincinnati had pat locked it up.
You just had to let a little note up there
from the City of Cincinnati, and they had a lock
on the door that they installed to keep their owners

(43:59):
out out. And I'm saying, this would have been a
great weekend for Rascone's up here if they were open
for the music festival.

Speaker 6 (44:06):
But sorry about that.

Speaker 15 (44:07):
How was that?

Speaker 1 (44:08):
How was was it? Was?

Speaker 14 (44:09):
It pretty much white flight down there?

Speaker 6 (44:12):
What do you mean white flight?

Speaker 14 (44:14):
You know how they used to close those restaurants.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
No, everybody was the white folks.

Speaker 6 (44:17):
Everybody was open.

Speaker 14 (44:18):
No, yeah, so what did you see a lot of
white folks on the square.

Speaker 5 (44:23):
I didn't go to the square until Sunday. So I
don't know how it was. I don't think it was
a whole lot.

Speaker 6 (44:30):
But anyway, it used.

Speaker 14 (44:31):
To be white flight, and uh, you know a lot
of times, like when they have sauce on the square,
you know, like say after a baseball game, white folks
they'll come and they'll join in and start dancing around there.
You know, they join in with other with other groups.
But when it comes to black like we get knur card,
we go home, right, you know.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
But we do act up.

Speaker 14 (44:51):
I'm not, I'm not, you know, we do act up.

Speaker 5 (44:54):
Ray, I gotta go. Thanks for you coming, all right,
all right news coming up on twelve thirty the Buzz
station Lincoln, We're with you, And I invited Chris Smithman
to come on the show today and he says, okay,
I will. I heard him on with Tom Brenneman this morning,
and he was fired up. He was fired up, and
mainly it seemed like he was more upset with the

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mayor of the city, saying he wasn't doing enough to
stop the violence in the city.

Speaker 6 (45:21):
Chris Smithman, it's been a year of.

Speaker 5 (45:23):
Sundays since we've last heard from you on this radio station.

Speaker 11 (45:27):
How you doing well, thanks Lincoln for the invite. I'm
doing I'm doing very well. It's a terrible situation that
we're talking about, and there are a number of points. First,
I heard the current president of the of the CINCINII NAACP.
I served as the president of the Sinci NAACP, and
I certainly don't want to say anything that undermines the

(45:50):
president's position, but let me make it clear to you
and your listening audience that in these kinds of situations
we have to be inly clear with no light that
what happened, particularly to that woman, starting with her, was
so horrific, her being punched in the face, being knocked out, unconscious,

(46:15):
and there could be people listening who haven't seen that video.
Her eyes went still, blood came out of her mouth.
I've never seen anything like that, There's no question about it.
And she was hit by a grown man, right, And
it looked like to me that she was trying to
stand in between what was happening to the man on

(46:37):
the ground, which could have been her husband who was
hit was being kicked like a football. He was being stumped,
he was being kicked, and he was being punched. And
so I've seen the entirety of the video. I saw
the man square up, I saw him slap the guy
in the red shirt. Let me tell you, Lincoln, if
you and I are in an altercation, it's mono tomano.

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And what we're talking about is a gang of people
jumping on people and stumping them to the ground. Everything
that happened after that was wrong. If the two men
fought it out and the guy lost the fight, you
and I wouldn't be talking right now. What happened was
a gang of people surrounded that those people and began

(47:20):
to stump them and punch them and kick them. And
when they punched the woman out, it's just absolutely outrageous
and insane. And let me make it clear, ninety nine
point ninety nine percent of African Americans are law abiding citizens,
have nothing to do with this. Went to the music festival,
had a great time, enjoyed themselves like we do every

(47:43):
single day getting up. But we're the silent majority, and
we're gonna have to start weighing in on this craziness
that we see happening. Because Lincoln, thirty to forty years ago,
you know, in your life, you've never seen anything like this.
This is incredibly new. This level of violence, this level
of disrespect, this level of I don't care. You could

(48:03):
be downtown Lincoln with your rights and a group of
these young people could approach you right and start coming
at you and your spouse. You have to make a choice,
defend her, to fend your life or take the beat
down that they're going to give you. Citizens aren't going
to take this Lincoln, and that's the problem. Someone getting
on and saying that I'm downing the African American community

(48:24):
is insane. What I am saying is that this behavior,
this conduct that I saw Lincoln is so over the top,
is so outrageous. Now about the mayor, we have a
mayor four years ago, and I've been very clear. I
supported David Mann for mayor because I thought this mayor
was all in it for himself. He's a show piece.
He's not really down there doing the job, working every day.

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I believe that he was in Cleveland at a conference
over the weekend. I couldn't imagine being the mayor having
the music festival, having a redskame, having a food festival downtown,
and I'm out of town.

Speaker 6 (49:00):
Ice mayor, the can filly, you got the city manager
they're here, but it.

Speaker 5 (49:05):
Was like a I think it was a conference of
mayors from other big cities around the country.

Speaker 6 (49:12):
So you want to be there for something like that, and.

Speaker 5 (49:15):
I think you are the people here capable of running.

Speaker 11 (49:18):
The city Lincoln. Here's the context. We've had indiscriminate attacks
like this. This wasn't a one off. We've been trying
to manage youth down.

Speaker 6 (49:32):
Okay, you're breaking up for some reason.

Speaker 11 (49:33):
Hello, people coming out of Jeff Rubies that are being attacked.
My point is, when you're a leader and you know
something like this is going down, you know we're having
the music festival, sometimes you've got to say I can't
come up there. I've got to be at home to
deal with the issue here. That's what I would have
done if I were the mayor. I'm not the mayor,

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but it's how I would have conducted myself.

Speaker 5 (49:56):
Well, how would you stop the violence that's going on
around the city. I just can't walk down the streets
and stop people from fighting. How would you stop the
violence in this city?

Speaker 11 (50:05):
Number One, you have to send a message Lincoln that
you support your police department. When you have you downtown
with guns. Are situations like this and they're mixing it
up with citizens, there could be an altercation. Officers have
to know that you're going to have their back, Lincoln.
You can't send them into these kinds of situations and

(50:26):
not think a taser isn't going to be used and
if somebody has a weapon, that they're not going to
use their weapons. So that's number one. The police department.
They don't have the confidence that city Hall has their back.
By the way, citizens in bond Hill, in Roseline, Haddock's Hills,
North Avondale, OTR. Wherever they live, African Americans want the

(50:48):
police and they support the police. We are the silent majority.
So that's number one. He doesn't go to roll calls,
he doesn't do right along the police department. He's as
absent with them.

Speaker 6 (51:00):
We don't know, and I don't know.

Speaker 5 (51:01):
I don't think or any mayor's lately have gotten the
roll calls.

Speaker 6 (51:07):
I don't know if necessarily.

Speaker 11 (51:11):
And when I was, when I was the Chair of
Law and Public Safety, let me tell you, I constantly
tried to send the message in a very tough environment
that we supported our police department, meaning we can support
the collaborative agreement and support proactive policing number two. Number two,
you cannot have You've got to deploy visible officers, Lincoln.

(51:32):
You can't have people not in uniforms. We need people
in uniforms with their cruisers. If I were the mayor,
I would have had a presence downtown that you wouldn't miss,
Meaning I would have had as many cruisers, as many officers,
even if I had to bring in the sheriffs to
assist me, to provide that kind of visibility. It's not
that they're engaging, it's just that they're present.

Speaker 6 (51:54):
When all hands.

Speaker 5 (51:58):
I think they had as many offers as they could
get out on the streets this weekend. It was all
hands on deck this weekend to keep the streets of
Cincinnati safe, and.

Speaker 6 (52:08):
I think they, for the most part, they were pretty
much safe.

Speaker 5 (52:11):
Other than that incident, I didn't hear of any shootings
downtown or anything like that.

Speaker 11 (52:16):
Lincoln. Look, the incident that you and I are talking about,
we wouldn't be talking about it if Elon Musk, for example,
had not retweeted it. It wasn't even in the media
on Sunday. This was very unreported. I didn't know about it,
that it was happening, and so It was really through
social media, through Facebook, through through x through all these

(52:38):
different social platforms TikTok, that we as a community even
knew that it happened. I'm saying, I don't think the
police chief and the police officers knew that it happened.
All I'm sharing with you is that when you say
all hands on deck, that includes the mayor, you gotta
be able to give up those kinds of things in
the context of keeping your citizens safe. On an event

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of this magnitude we had the music festival in town,
you would think that the mayor, based on what's been
happening downtown, would have been present. I called him out
on it, and I think that he should have been there.

Speaker 5 (53:11):
If the mayor were in town, that fight would have
still happened.

Speaker 6 (53:15):
Even with him in town, it would have happened.

Speaker 11 (53:18):
So let me tell you. If I were the mayor,
so I'm putting myself in that position, I would have
been in a cruiser. I would have been visible. I
would have been on the radio, and I would have
known that that incident was happening. We have cameras everywhere.
I would have been dialed into the nine to one
to one call center who By the way, those cameras
are viewing all of downtown, and I would have told them,
if there's anything happening downtown, I want to know about it.

(53:41):
As the mayor, you cannot run the city from Cleveland,
Lincoln where on something like that. You gotta be here,
you gotta be president number two. I would have already
held a press conference. You're telling me that this mayor
can't reach out to those victims. That woman who was
punched unconscious reached out to her and said, listen, I'm
so sorry what happened to you. As a guest in

(54:03):
our city, meaning there is a missing component here. We
can't say that we have a strong mayor Lincoln, and
we can't find them with a search one. We got
to know that we have a mayor. Leadership matters, and
this mayor continues to fail us. I'm not running for mayor,
so this isn't about me being the mayor. I'm not running.
I'm just saying, having been the vice mayor of the
city of Cincinnati, there is a void. And when you

(54:25):
have those kinds of void, Lincoln, where you will continue
to have these kinds of instants happened in our Cork.

Speaker 5 (54:31):
It almost sounds like you want the National Guard to
come in here for festival weekend. That's what it almost
sounds like that you you, if you were mayor, would
you call a National Guard?

Speaker 11 (54:40):
In number one, I would have been on the phone
with Governor Mike Devine. And you can believe, as one
of his appointees to a committee statewide that I already
have done that. And so I would have already been
on the phone with the Governor asking him for his assistance.
Now what he's willing to provide, I don't know, but
I would have pad Andy, who is key to the

(55:02):
Governor as it relates to the law enforcement in the
city of Cincinnati, and I would have had them down
here this weekend. Whether that's they're helicopters, not their drones,
but they're helicopters. Whether I had a State Highway patrolman
here or whether I needed the National Guard, here's the
bottom line. I would have done anything, in everything to

(55:23):
make sure that your wife, Lincoln were wasn't assaulted like that.
If that was your wife, if that was your daughter,
if that was your niece, what would you be thinking
this morning? If that was what would I be thinking
this morning?

Speaker 5 (55:37):
Well, I'll tell you, I don't know of anything that
the Cincinnati police could have done.

Speaker 6 (55:43):
I thought they were out in full force this weekend.

Speaker 5 (55:47):
They had the festival, you know, protected, they had to
over the Rhine protected. A couple of fights breakout, and
I don't think you can prevent something like that in
any situation. So you know, I mean, I mean, I
think they did a pretty good job this weekend. Apparently
you don't think they did a good enough job. You
think the mayor should have been hands on riding around

(56:10):
in the streets of Cincinnati to keep it safe.

Speaker 6 (56:12):
I don't know.

Speaker 11 (56:14):
Well, here's here's what I'll Here's what I'll leave you.
If you know I am in a concealed carry. I'm
somebody who believes in the Second Amendment in a in
a big way and our First Amendment. Right, I'm letting
you know, as a man, I'm not taking a beatdown
like that.

Speaker 6 (56:27):
Yeah, right, That's That's why.

Speaker 11 (56:29):
I'm armed most of the time when I'm with my family.
So I'm not gonna take kicks in the head. I'm
not going to have my daughter punched in the face
and knocked out without me having a response as a man.
So it's either the City of Cincinnati projects in reality
that they can keep it safe, or you tell people
like Lincoln wearing Christopher Smithman that it's okay for us

(56:52):
to protect ourselves, but you can't have both.

Speaker 5 (56:55):
Well, I think I know that you don't have to
tell them.

Speaker 11 (57:00):
I'm not going downtown. I'm the former vice mayor of
the City of Cincinnati. I'm not going downtown because I
don't want to put myself in a position because I
don't want to hurt anybody, and I don't want anybody
to hurt me. I'm letting you know that rational people
are tired of it. Lincoln. We can't give daylight on
this kind of violence where people are just surrounding citizens

(57:21):
and beating the hell out of them in the middle
of the street. The last point, Lincoln, this wasn't the
only incident. There are other videos that are now surfacing
where this man was walking, white male, they just stole them.
He passed out. They then drug him in the middle
of the street. He got to his feet, kind of
was hanging on to a car. There was a citizens
who came over and kind of protected him to kind

(57:42):
of help him. There was an African American woman. When
the woman was knocked out and that incident, she put
her head up, she pulled her head up off the concrete.
She did try to assist. There were people out there
who were operating that they had common sense.

Speaker 5 (57:54):
And a video of two white women fighting down at
the banks too. I saw that video too, all.

Speaker 11 (58:00):
Of the fighting, whatever it happens, we have the gang
fighting that I'm when I stay gang, I'm not talking
about a gang. I'm talking about a group of people
that surrounded citizens and created an unfair situation where people
were being kicked in the head. That's what I'm talking about.
That is outrageous. And I'm just saying, as one person
in the city of Cincinnati, as one leader, I'm not

(58:21):
gonna leave daylight here and act as if there's something
okay with that. And that doesn't mean that I'm not black,
I'm not African Americans, that I don't support us. We
live in a city and I'm gonna tell you, Lincoln,
you and I have grown up in a time brother,
where where's high standards. The way you conduct yourself. You
could go down to the Macy's Jazz Festival have zero

(58:43):
problems down there. I'm saying to you that most of
the people ninety nine maybe then one hundred percent of
the people who went to the festival had nothing to
do with this. But the reality of it is, our
city leaders are responsible for keeping us safe and they
failed us. And I'm gonna call them out on it
until they deal with this youth silence. You asked me
what to do? What about enforcing the curfew? What about

(59:04):
making sure that at nine o'clock, at ten o'clock, we
don't have three hundred youth downtown on the banks in
the Dora fighting because young men and grown men like
me cannot take their significant others downtown without the fear
of someone jumping us. It is the recipe that not
somebody right, but an African American man is down there

(59:25):
with his woman, his youth approached them. They attempt the
same thing and they kill that youth. What are we
gonna say, Lincoln when that happens, Because you're not gonna
take the beating, Lincoln, Where isn't gonna take that beating?
You're gonna defend yourself, your right and your daughter.

Speaker 6 (59:40):
All right, Chris Smithman, it's always great talking to you,
and thank you for having me on and good to
talk to you all. Right, thanks for your coming. All right.

Speaker 5 (59:47):
That's Chris Smithman and he invited him on the show.
I invited him on. So are you Facebook live folks?
You know I invited him and you heard what he
had to say. I think he Yeah, it was bad.
The video was bad. You hate to see something like
that happen. You hate to see that. But I think

(01:00:10):
they're blowing it out of proportion. Like I said, for
the most part, everybody who was in town had a
great time. There were no issues with the synse, with
the P and G Music Festival.

Speaker 6 (01:00:21):
Everything was great.

Speaker 5 (01:00:23):
And you had a couple of incidents and Smithman wants
to call it in the National Guard, in the State Patrol.

Speaker 6 (01:00:32):
I don't know. Let's take a break. We'll come back.
I know.

Speaker 5 (01:00:35):
Iris Rowlie is fired up. She's on hold. We got
Mike McCoy and al and Nettie and Bill all holding on.
We'll take a break and then we'll come back. The
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the smoke coming out of the phone right now, Iris Rowley,

(01:02:39):
how you doing? No, No, that's extra work for us,
so please don't.

Speaker 12 (01:02:47):
All right, listen, first of all, black people, we have
to understand when the indictment is blanket and it is
about all of us, not just one of us or
some of us. We have to be smarter than that.
We have to the smarter than the MAGA coming in
here telling you every single day that you have no rights,
you have nothing, You don't get nothing but more police

(01:03:09):
and National Guard.

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
You heard, would he see it?

Speaker 6 (01:03:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 12 (01:03:12):
Yeah, nothing that occurred this weekend requires a call to
the I think for the National Guard, who knows nothing
about the Collaborative Agreement, nothing about all the changes in
policing that we have nothing. What I heard Christopher Smithman
do was speak out both sides of his neck. Now
you want to call out the mayor, but he should

(01:03:33):
be talking to You should be calling out the police too,
because you're saying that they're not doing their jobs, because
they can handle what happened at Fourth and Am. They
can even handle what happens on the bank. But we're
not saying allow them to investigate, allow the prosecutors to
file charges, and then follow the process. We're gas lighting
this situation and trying to indict the entire jazz music festival.

Speaker 6 (01:04:01):
There will be some arrests made.

Speaker 5 (01:04:02):
I'm sure the police know pretty much who these people
were that were involved in the fight, and I'm sure
they ain't gonna get arrested.

Speaker 12 (01:04:10):
Lincoln, I have never in my life seen such fragility
from black people and white people. This is ridiculous to
get on this radio and to lamit when he said
we have been working with children. What the hell has
he done? Where has he been to do anything? And

(01:04:31):
nor will he speak to the work that has reduced
violence while reducing arrests on Government Square, Fountain Square. You
won't talk about that. You can't even talk about the
people that's been on the banks all summer long working
with our youth. You can't even acknowledge that the mayor
of the city, manager, the police chief, they done had
more press conferences than I've ever seen, certainly more than

(01:04:53):
what he did, especially how he cheated Jeffrey Blackwell. Must
be clear about who just got off your ret station. Lincoln,
I'm interested in trying to understand why would you want
his perspective?

Speaker 5 (01:05:06):
Well, you want to hear from all sides.

Speaker 12 (01:05:09):
If we need, we need to hear you don't value
enohing the only we needed to hear from the National Guard.

Speaker 5 (01:05:16):
People need to hear from people like Chris Smithman because
that gives them another perspective, saying, hell, he's you make he's.

Speaker 6 (01:05:23):
Wrong as hell, or he's not right. We need to
hear all sides.

Speaker 12 (01:05:27):
Or we give people who are not clear and who
may think that he's representing black people to be thinking
like him, which is not a complete thought. It's not
problem solving, it's not helpful. And you indicted the whole
black community, and then you start with the white lady.
Can we start from the beginning, Lincoln? Can we start there?

(01:05:48):
And nor would the media start from the beginning? Listen,
Rachel Flurter is in a slap might get you something
that you didn't want to get into. And it seemed
to me, Lincoln that it was a setup, all of
this vitriol because of that. Are you kidding me? That
look like a Trump rally, that looked exactly like how
people treated black people and media at Trump rallies. Oh

(01:06:11):
and by the way, we can't never talk about January sixth,
and we can't never talk about what white people do.
I bet you he didn't see the video of the
white girl flighting on the bank. I bet you he
didn't see that. So we are knee jerking once again.
You want to see the mayor of the mayor shouldn't
he should be here? This is so totally ridiculous. It
makes no sense. And then we wonder why our children

(01:06:34):
are running crazy. When he talked about the curfew, the
city manager just did a whole reason's hand to the
whole council, to the whole city on what she's doing
around the curfew. He talked about holding past accountable. They
talked about it. Laws is not on the book. It
gotta come from the state. Mister, former vice mayor, mister

(01:06:54):
former Law and Public Safety Committee. You know better. But
you get on here and you try to talk down
to us as if we are dumb, and then the
only thing that we can get is the National Guard.

Speaker 7 (01:07:05):
Lincoln.

Speaker 12 (01:07:05):
I am appalled to hear what he had to say.
This makes no sense that we don't need it. A
beautiful week I don't think.

Speaker 5 (01:07:12):
There was any need to call the governor and you know,
and have the highway.

Speaker 6 (01:07:17):
Patrol down here and all that stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:07:20):
You know, they need to stay on the interstates and
do their stop job on the interstates. I don't think
we needed the highway patrol patrolling the streets of Cincinnati.

Speaker 12 (01:07:28):
No, we do not, Lincoln, Lincoln, you know, I just
spent several days down on Green and Republic, sleeping, walking
and talking, walking a whole old t R.

Speaker 6 (01:07:37):
Yes.

Speaker 12 (01:07:37):
I mean, come on, people, I was down at the
concert Friday night, had an absolutely wonderful time. Needed it,
needed it because we out here doing the work. And
you allowed this person.

Speaker 5 (01:07:52):
Yes I did. I did allow Yes, yes, and he
can come back and get it. You know, it generates conversation.
Thank you, Iris. I'm glad you called to rebut everything
he said.

Speaker 12 (01:08:05):
Everything, And please don't let him call back. He wouldn't
call before. Now why you want to call? You want
to call us and tell us how bad we are,
how we're not doing this again. The only thing we
need is more policing. We don't need anything else. We
just need more policing. He didn't even call in and
say congratulations to all the people that were here, that
were thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands

(01:08:27):
of people. And we had very small, very small crime
in our city. But you get on here you want
to lamit about this. That is sad. It's pitiful. Please,
people do not fall for the okie dope. Do not
fall for the okie dope.

Speaker 5 (01:08:42):
All right, Thanks Iris Rolie, thanks for your call.

Speaker 6 (01:08:45):
Unbelievable.

Speaker 5 (01:08:46):
Yeah, see, you gotta hear stuff like Chris Smithling. You
can't just hear your side all the time. You'll get
used to it, and then when you hear a different side,
you want to know how to hand.

Speaker 6 (01:09:02):
So I'm glad he accepted my invitation to call in.

Speaker 5 (01:09:08):
I'm glad you need y'all need to hear stuff like that.
Black folks need to hear stuff like that. Let's take
a break, we'll come back. Who twelve thirty the buzz Daddy,
your talk station. I had a great time on the
Square yesterday. People were coming up requesting Sunday Soul Classics.

(01:09:33):
One guy wanted to hear the Makings of You. I said,
it's kind of slow for the Square. I mean it's
a good song.

Speaker 6 (01:09:43):
He was from. Where was he?

Speaker 5 (01:09:44):
I mean, we had people that was on the square
from Alabama, Boston, had some people from Boston, there where
Saint Louis, Wisconsin. People were from everywhere on the square
yesterday and it was great talking to them.

Speaker 6 (01:10:00):
The Chicago folks, they were, you know, having fun.

Speaker 5 (01:10:03):
And everybody came in town and like you said, ninety
nine percent of the people had a great time, had
a great time, and they didn't pack up their bags
and lead the hotel and go back home.

Speaker 6 (01:10:16):
All of them didn't do that.

Speaker 5 (01:10:17):
On Sunday, like I said, there was a lot of
people from out of More people from out of town
was on the square than.

Speaker 6 (01:10:23):
We're from in town.

Speaker 5 (01:10:24):
It seems like, yeah, oh, either they got there earlier
because they had all the seats they out of towners,
you know, they had. And then they had church on
the square. Scottie Johnson did the closing prayer on the
square and I told him, I said, Scotty, don't sneak
a preach in. You're only praying. Don't try to sneak

(01:10:46):
a preach in. And then I saw somebody say, hey,
you know, you might have been right. Scottie Johnson did
try to sneak a preach in. He did try to
sneak a preach.

Speaker 6 (01:10:55):
In, so he tried to nique one in. I don't
know what he was praying.

Speaker 5 (01:11:04):
About, but he was there a long time. People start
to move in and wiping sweat off their face. It
was finally the time for Scottie to say hey men.

Speaker 6 (01:11:22):
And people were whoa boy that was alone? All right?
All right, unbelievable. I tell you.

Speaker 5 (01:11:32):
It was something about dotty people's. On Saturday, I just
broke out in the Holy Dance. I don't know what
came over me. I think it was the spirit. It
hit me all at once. I started dancing and I
couldn't control myself. Somebody had me in their hands. I

(01:11:58):
don't know what it was, but the show did feel good.

Speaker 6 (01:12:03):
Let me end this little feeble message.

Speaker 5 (01:12:09):
All right, let's move all. We did take our break,
didn't we? Okay, yes we did. Let's move all. Let's
go to uh, let's go to al Al.

Speaker 1 (01:12:18):
How are you respect mother? Blessed Lincoln? Thanks for taking
my car real quick?

Speaker 6 (01:12:23):
What's up?

Speaker 5 (01:12:24):
Hey?

Speaker 1 (01:12:24):
I wanted wanted to point out something to you as
far as what happened this weekend, and then the language
that not only the news was using, but also the
language that the police, uh you know police chief was using,
just saying that they're going to make sure that they
find everybody that was around now and lock them up
and charge them, right Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:12:46):
I mean you can't lock up and charge everybody that
was around there.

Speaker 6 (01:12:51):
You can.

Speaker 5 (01:12:51):
You can get the people who were kicking and bouncing
off of people, and you can get those people. But
just somebody standing by looking, I don't know what you
can charge them with.

Speaker 1 (01:13:03):
I'm just talking about the language because I love that
the people that wasn't helped in the white folks, if
they was gonna get it to.

Speaker 6 (01:13:11):
I don't know whether they'll be able to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:13:13):
This is this is what white folks are.

Speaker 5 (01:13:16):
White folks are the chiefs. White folks are the chief
The chief.

Speaker 1 (01:13:20):
Is white too.

Speaker 6 (01:13:21):
What But did she say it? Yes, I have to listen.
I have to listen to what she said.

Speaker 1 (01:13:29):
But that's fine.

Speaker 6 (01:13:30):
But I don't know if you can arrest somebody language.

Speaker 1 (01:13:32):
She didn't have that same language in his zone fifteen
because I can I can point out three people.

Speaker 6 (01:13:37):
Okay one reason.

Speaker 5 (01:13:38):
One reason because Zone fifteen is not in the limits
of the city of Cincinnati.

Speaker 6 (01:13:45):
She can't arrest anybody in Zone fifteen, but yet.

Speaker 1 (01:13:50):
Still she had comments about it.

Speaker 6 (01:13:52):
Well only when they.

Speaker 1 (01:13:54):
Then you go to okay, and then you go to
the prosecutor, and she should have the same language as well. Correct. Uh,
you have to feel the same way about what happened
in Donfice and that what happened downtown, because if you
think that you're gonna terrorize one group and then not
get terrorized yourself.

Speaker 5 (01:14:13):
Okay, first of all, other chiefs other the chief in
even dew does he have the same concerns about what
happened downtown. Uh, as you want the chief to have
about what happened out in Evendale.

Speaker 1 (01:14:27):
You know what in cahoots are means? Right, you're there
in hoots? Oh okay, you heard, you heard. You heard
the former safety manager get on here and say he
would have called the chef and had him come down
down patrol. He would have called you know, the governor
and all that type of not.

Speaker 6 (01:14:43):
Over one fight, Not over one fight.

Speaker 1 (01:14:46):
I understand. It doesn't make sense.

Speaker 5 (01:14:48):
I would say, in the city there was a riot
and they were running through the streets, hurting people and
setting things on fire.

Speaker 6 (01:14:57):
But this was one fight. You know what, the National
Guardian for one.

Speaker 1 (01:15:01):
Fight what I'm saying to you is which which incident
needed more assistance, the fight downtown or the Neo Nazis
on the Neo Nazis.

Speaker 6 (01:15:13):
The Neo Nazis, I would.

Speaker 1 (01:15:15):
Say when that happened, Respectfully, I didn't hear Chris Christopher
smith Man. You get on these airways saying anything now,
black neighborhood and terrorizing the black neighborhood. Anything, right, So

(01:15:36):
why should we give any We should, we will, but
why should we give any compassion, especially when you provoke something?

Speaker 6 (01:15:46):
All right?

Speaker 5 (01:15:47):
But all I got to say is that the chief
the reason why she didn't speak out on the Neo Nazis.
It might have been in our backyard, but it wasn't
in our limits.

Speaker 6 (01:15:57):
It wasn't in the city limits. And I don't know
what you.

Speaker 5 (01:16:00):
The Evendale mayor, I mean the mayor of Evendale or
the chief didn't call for assistance from Cincinnati Police on
that situation.

Speaker 1 (01:16:08):
But they're saying that they're going to make sure that
they look at the footage and find everybody who had
something to do with it. You know what I mean, Okay,
had something.

Speaker 5 (01:16:18):
To do with the meaning meaning that somebody stop somebody.

Speaker 6 (01:16:22):
I gotta podcast the.

Speaker 1 (01:16:23):
Same energy for us. They didn't Lincoln. You know they
didn't have that same energy for us. You know it
because they.

Speaker 6 (01:16:33):
Are You're talking apples and orange. Apples and orange vote
how long?

Speaker 5 (01:16:38):
I don't know, since I didn't vote when I was eighteen,
I didn't vote. Then I probably didn't vote till I
guess I was about twenty four years old when I voted,
because I wasn't I was in the Marine Corps and
I wasn't even here, and so I didn't vote until
I got back here out of the Marines.

Speaker 1 (01:16:58):
Why so what is that about?

Speaker 6 (01:17:01):
Sort of yeah, I would say, so, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:17:04):
So all those years, have you ever gotten a receipt
for your vote?

Speaker 5 (01:17:09):
A receipt meaning did I you mean when you say receipt,
are you talking about some actually something from politicians who
said they were going to do something? Or do you
mean the Board of Elections giving me a receipt for
my ballot?

Speaker 1 (01:17:26):
The Board of Election giving you a receipt to say
that your vote.

Speaker 6 (01:17:32):
Well, they give you that little sticker.

Speaker 5 (01:17:33):
I guess that's sort of like their receipt when they
give you that little sticker.

Speaker 4 (01:17:36):
I voted today.

Speaker 6 (01:17:38):
That's what I mean.

Speaker 11 (01:17:42):
If they gave you.

Speaker 6 (01:17:43):
You can't catch out on a regular receipt.

Speaker 5 (01:17:45):
What are you going to do with a regular receipt
that came spit out from the machine saying you voted?

Speaker 6 (01:17:50):
What would you do with that?

Speaker 1 (01:17:52):
It's called a paper trail. See if I have that
paper trail, that lets me know that at least you
acknowledge the fact that I took time out of my day,
came here and gave casted my vote and it went
towards the candidate that I wanted to support.

Speaker 5 (01:18:10):
Okay, And now, I mean I wouldn't be opposed to
something like that. And the next time I have anybody
from the Board of Elections in I will ask them
about that.

Speaker 1 (01:18:20):
But like you said, you've been vote for fifty one
years and it ain't coming across nobody's play. Nobody thought
of that. Nobody knows that this is something that American
you know, community needs, you know, for you know, that
assurance to know that you know you're being transparent. We
don't know where these votes go. They all go to

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New York and they get casted in the garbage. Yeah,
and they put in who they want to be put in.
Because you're not a part of that all right now.

Speaker 6 (01:18:51):
I got to run.

Speaker 1 (01:18:52):
Appreciate you, call, respect, love and blessing.

Speaker 6 (01:18:54):
All right, let's take a break. Who will come back?

Speaker 5 (01:18:57):
Lincoln Where twelve thirty US Station Lincoln Where with you.

Speaker 6 (01:19:02):
It's Friday.

Speaker 5 (01:19:03):
We are here broadcasting live at First Financial Bank on
the corner of Fourth and Vine.

Speaker 6 (01:19:09):
Yes, Fourth and Vine.

Speaker 5 (01:19:11):
Mss Myra EPs is with us and she would visit
Sincy and boy that I'll tell.

Speaker 6 (01:19:15):
You that the Square is gonna be jumping.

Speaker 5 (01:19:18):
It's already been jumping with Ricky Smiley, but the rest
of the weekend it's gonna be live.

Speaker 16 (01:19:23):
Yes, So the Square we have programming and free, open
to the public programming all weekend long, starting today at
they already open at eleven o'clock into eleven pm.

Speaker 6 (01:19:35):
Today.

Speaker 16 (01:19:35):
We have vendors, you have live music, We have bands,
and tonight we have a headliner. Selena Johnson's gonna be
headlining tonight and then tomorrow's the hairliner is Christopher Williams.
And like I said on your show before Life, skin
is still in so y'all still come, y'all support him.
And then we have Lando's gonna do an old school
party tomorrow night on the Square, and then on Sunday

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we have church, so y'all wake up and y'all come
to church with us. We have Reverend Cook that will
be with us from Lincoln Heights Baptist Church. He's gonna
bring the word conseman. Elder Scottie Johnson will be closing
out in prayer.

Speaker 6 (01:20:09):
And then we have our.

Speaker 16 (01:20:10):
Very own Lincoln Wear doing his old school party. Is
it from three to four? Lincoln three to four, three
to four. And then to close us out, Michelle A
would be with us, so please come out come support.

Speaker 2 (01:20:21):
We have mini vendors.

Speaker 16 (01:20:23):
Just bring your line chairs, bring your patients and come
out and have a good time.

Speaker 5 (01:20:27):
It sounds like it's gonna be a great weekend, even
though it's gonna be hot.

Speaker 6 (01:20:30):
But hey, come out. Make sure you wear a hat
or something. I don't know.

Speaker 16 (01:20:34):
Yeah, so we can't wait to see you.

Speaker 6 (01:20:35):
All right, good to see you, Thank you for stopping by.
Appreciate it. Yeah, I see you got your sister still
hanging with.

Speaker 5 (01:20:40):
You, Hollywood, missus Hollywood, Yes, all right, five one, three, seven, four, nine,
twelve thirty Lincoln Wear with you, And let's.

Speaker 6 (01:20:51):
See do we have anybody holding on here?

Speaker 1 (01:20:55):
Boy?

Speaker 5 (01:20:55):
I'm I've been so busy here today. Man, time is
really flying by too. Time is flying by.

Speaker 6 (01:21:02):
All right, let's go to the twin ever wake up twin? Hey,
we we We were listening to you sleep.

Speaker 11 (01:21:13):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:21:13):
That's wrong man, you were man.

Speaker 6 (01:21:15):
You were snoring. You didn't know that you snored, did you?

Speaker 7 (01:21:19):
I knew that, but I ain't not do it on
air and all that stuff. Man, I ain't know that.

Speaker 12 (01:21:25):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:21:25):
Yes, yeah, but you send me up like you do
like your pieces.

Speaker 6 (01:21:29):
Hey, nobody set you up.

Speaker 5 (01:21:31):
Man.

Speaker 7 (01:21:32):
Lincoln they those stones stick and stones and mad thing is.
But you know this is a Lincoln word show.

Speaker 4 (01:21:38):
Get used to it.

Speaker 9 (01:21:39):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:21:40):
I just came out to that.

Speaker 7 (01:21:41):
Hey, Man, that's that uh banana pudding though for man, Hey,
it was five Man.

Speaker 6 (01:21:46):
I guess I guess it puts you to sleep.

Speaker 4 (01:21:49):
Huh put me in a.

Speaker 7 (01:21:50):
Comb I sleep. I'm in the comber now. I graduated.

Speaker 5 (01:21:54):
You sound like either you sound like you're sleepy or
are you high one of the two?

Speaker 7 (01:22:00):
Hey, gonna judge me, said a tense Nah, it was
a good weekend. It's just a nast celebrate, you know,
bring the Black Union, I mean music sets and everything else. Man,
you know, just come together, one love man, I just
over there. You know, sus y'all brought all the you
know people out, some black folks, and I'm saying, and

(01:22:21):
that thing else. Make sure that money go to the
allocates towards, you know, helping the homeless and you know,
helping black community.

Speaker 14 (01:22:29):
Man.

Speaker 7 (01:22:30):
Because every year, man, Chicago, Cincinnati, trip, whatever, they bring
the noise, man with the people, and Iago.

Speaker 6 (01:22:40):
Brings the most noise. There's more people from Chicago than anywhere.

Speaker 3 (01:22:44):
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:22:45):
And then you know they bring all the money and
start looking out for the for the black community.

Speaker 11 (01:22:51):
Man.

Speaker 7 (01:22:51):
I hate to say, I don't play that race part,
but hey, it is what it is. They gotta start
looking out for the people.

Speaker 12 (01:22:58):
Man.

Speaker 7 (01:23:00):
All Right, that's all I gotta say. Man, I'm gonna
do something today, but I don't know what.

Speaker 10 (01:23:06):
All right, twen, we're having technical technical difficulties. Have a
good weekend, man, all right, all right, all right, let
me see if Lincoln Ware has got his affair straight
on his end, Lincoln.

Speaker 6 (01:23:21):
Lincoln Ware.

Speaker 10 (01:23:23):
All right, So Lincoln looks like he's been a I
guess he's gonna disconnect and reconnect. So I got some
audio that I got for Lincoln yesterday while I got
a couple of minutes to kill before the top of
the hour, break got this audio for Lincoln yesterday. It
was a guy talking about why MAGA hates when other

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folks other than themselves succeed. And if we don't hear
from Lincoln before the top of the hour, we're gonna
go to our top of the our news.

Speaker 15 (01:23:53):
Do you ever wonder why MAGA seems obsessed with making
other people suffer?

Speaker 6 (01:23:57):
It's not just cruelty for fun. It goes deeper than that.

Speaker 15 (01:24:00):
It's fear, it's resentment, it's broken promises. These people were
raised to believe that if they worked hard, stayed in church,
and followed the rules, then they would be entitled to
the American dream.

Speaker 6 (01:24:12):
And not a lot of them got it.

Speaker 15 (01:24:14):
And even though they did work hard and went to
church on the regular and they followed the rules, they
did not see any improvement in their lives. But they
did see people from other countries coming here and they
got ahead. They did see people from the LGBT community
getting ahead, and they thought, well, that's not fair. We're
supposed to be God's chosen people. And look at these

(01:24:34):
Muslims that are getting ahead. Look at these LGBT people
that are getting ahead, even though the Bible specifically talks
against them. But instead of questioning the system that screwed
them over, they decided to question everybody else, like why
does that black family at the end of the street
have a better car than I do? Why does that
LGBT couple seem so happy? Why are all these immigrants
doing better than I am? I was born here, I

(01:24:56):
deserve all this stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:24:57):
They don't.

Speaker 15 (01:24:58):
And there are two hard truths that they just failed
to accept. Number One, the system failed them even though
it favored them. Number Two, even though they had every
privilege afforded to them except for maybe generational wealth, they
still found a way to not get ahead. And in
such a situation, you don't want to blame yourself for that.
It's got to be somebody else's fault, right, So then

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they have to tell themselves a story like those people
are cheating, they're stealing from me, they're evil, anything except
for to admit to themselves is somehow they got played.
A wealthy saw this and they capitalized on it big time.

Speaker 6 (01:25:31):
Pun intended.

Speaker 15 (01:25:31):
They were like, hey, don't be mad at the system.
Here's some nice scapegoats you can have those instead. Your
problems aren't because wages are stagnant. It's because of that
trans kid that wants to use the bathroom. You could
totally buy a house tomorrow, but you know why you
can't immigrants. So yeah, they absolutely want these people to suffer,
not because it helps them in any way, but because

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it hurts those people that they were convinced that they
were better than. They don't care if the boat sinks,
just as long as the people they hate drowned first.
They think that they're fighting for freedom, but all they're
doing is protecting the people that screwed them over and
hurting the people who didn't. They would rather burn the
whole house down rather than admit that they lost the keys.
So MAGA isn't about making America great. It's trying to

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make sure that nobody else gets to enjoy it if
they don't.

Speaker 10 (01:26:18):
All right, it seems like we're still having issues on
Lincoln Zam. I'm going to go to the top of
the hour news break and we'll be back on the
other side, hopefully with Lincoln Ware, but if not, we'll
figure something out. You're listening to The Lincoln Ware Show
on twelve thirty, The buzz