The Lincoln Ware Rewind: July 29, 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:11):
I'm still on a speeding bullet.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
More powerful look comemotive.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
Hey, well believe tall buildings at a single bond.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
I'm in the sky. It's a.

Speaker 4 (00:27):
Lincoln.

Speaker 5 (00:27):
Lincoln, Lincoln bobingus banana being buming gun Lincoln.

Speaker 6 (00:34):
They say this cat Lincoln is a bad mother.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
I'm just talking about Lincoln.

Speaker 5 (00:41):
Good morning, Cincinnati. Welcome to twelve thirty w dB Z.
We are the buzz of Cincinnati, your talk station. The
Lincoln were show till one o'clock this afternoon. There's a
lot going on, especially around the tri State, and there's
some things going on around the nation.

Speaker 6 (01:01):
And the world.

Speaker 5 (01:02):
And we'll go around the world between now one o'clock. Yes,
let's start in New York.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
Man.

Speaker 5 (01:11):
He killed four people, then turned the gun on himself,
shot himself in the chest. But they said they had
bulletproof vest on. I guess he took the vest off
and shot himself. I'm not sure, but he's upset at
the NFL. One of their employees was shot. And the
guy looks the name doesn't sound like he's a black guy,

(01:32):
but he looks like he's a black guy to me.
I don't know, he looks black to me, and I
guess he's got some mental issues going on, and there's
a lot more investigations to be done on that one.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
Man.

Speaker 5 (01:50):
And he walked right down the street with the gun
and right into the building and shot the cop and
shot a lady and man, she's ill.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
You're just not safe any place nowadays. You're not safe.

Speaker 5 (02:06):
But I mean that can happen anywhere in this country.
Somebody just get mad, get their gun and go somewhere
and start shooting. It could happen anywhere. That's why you
got to keep your head on a swivel when you
go out places. The guy Walmart yesterday stabbing people, and

(02:28):
I'm glad Inside Edition did give the black guy a
lot of play, but mostly they were given the two
white Marines all the play. You know, the guy with
the gun, he saw that gun. He saw black dude
with the gun, and he was like, okay, no more,
no more. And then the Marines came in and made
him get down. But it was that gun that stopped
him in his tracks. He was like, oh, I don't
want none of that smoke. I don't want that smoke.

(02:51):
But after he had stabbed some people, man, that was
I mean, you can't go to Walmart and shop in
peace in America.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
Yeah, you can't do it.

Speaker 5 (03:05):
And coming back to Cincinnati, well, I guess tonight they're
having a meeting.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
With the downtown businesses and the police.

Speaker 5 (03:19):
And visit Cincy and the chamber and everybody's coming together
to find out what can we do to make Cincinnati safe.
But I'm finding out all this information. They sent the
task force home supposedly at two am. Now they stopped

(03:43):
the last call? Is it's a two point thirty when
they can't serve any more alcohol?

Speaker 3 (03:47):
I think it is last call?

Speaker 5 (03:50):
And so people are leaving the bar around two to
two thirty, quarter to three at the latest. Why are
you gonna send the task force home at that time?
And I don't know how true is it said it
had three police officers covering the whole downtown area at
that time. Now, I don't want to believe that, but
maybe you hear stuff. You hear different news reports. You

(04:12):
don't know exactly what is true. It's hard to decipher
fact from fiction. It's hard to decipher. But the task
force should have stayed around at least till three. I
think with all the people downtown, you know, okay, if
it's a regular night downtown. Yes, two o'clock, it's fine

(04:35):
to send the task force home, but on a weekend
like this, you needed them there to at least three
because there's so much going on. You got the five
to one three going on, and man, that's I mean,
that was a mad house walking through there. You hear
music everywhere, you're smelling food, people are selling stuff. It's
just total madness going through there. And then you had

(04:58):
the parties up on the other street say you just
can't go home at two. I'd like to know which
lieutenant or captain sent those that sent that task force
home at two o'clock. Somebody's in trouble. Did they ask
for permission from the chief first, or did they take
it on their own to Okay, you guys can go

(05:21):
home at two. You guys can go ahead and scatter.
And then all hell breaks loose and the chief is
upset that only one person called nine one one, with
all those people with all those phones, only one person
down nine one one.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
And man, I guess everybody's.

Speaker 5 (05:46):
So busy, so busy recording on their phones, they didn't
have time to dial.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
I got to get this on my phone.

Speaker 5 (05:52):
I got to record this, put it on my Facebook page,
call to nine to one one and so five people
have been arrested, five people, probably more on the way.
And the question I have, Okay, we saw the video

(06:15):
of the white guy slapping the black guy.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
To me, that's an assault. Will he be charged? Will
he be charged?

Speaker 5 (06:25):
And yeah, alcohol probably did play a factor in all
of this. Alcohol and the white guy had to be
pretty much toasted to slap a black guy when everybody
around you is black. That took some liquid courage there,

(06:45):
liquid courage. But the guy who hit the woman, yeah,
he definitely should be charged. The guy who did the
WWE body slam on the guy, he should be charged.
And a host of others who were jumped in stumping
and kicking and doing all that, they should be charged.
You know, none of this would have happened if okay,

(07:08):
the guy slapped you, maybe you get your buddy, or
you suck a punch the guy.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
He's down and go on your way. You knocked him down,
you knocked him almost out, and go on your way.
Leave the guy alone, lettingim.

Speaker 5 (07:22):
He suffered for slapping you, he got suck a point
punched and he's down. None of this would be happening.
But it was just like a feeding frenzy. Just like
pit bulls when they taste blood, then they that's it,
you know, they just latch on.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
And everybody was latching on, and not everybody.

Speaker 5 (07:40):
I saw some people trying to pull people off and
trying to break it up. And I think the girl
who lost the wig, she should probably be charged too,
because she was trying to get her kicks in before
the woman grabbed her hair and pulled her wig off.
She was trying to get some punches into, so she
should get charged also. But to be fair, I do

(08:06):
think the guy who slapped the guy, he should be
charged also. He should be charged also. And they're gonna
look at I think they're gonna look at video to
see if the club overserved the people, how many drinks

(08:31):
they had, and if they had a lot of drinks.
I can tell you now, those downtown businesses, they're probably
gonna try to go after his license, his liquor license.
That's how they do those black clubs. Now, black clubs
have a hard time in downtown Cincinnati. Let's say clubs
that serve black folks. Uh Rasconi's I think that's the

(08:54):
name Rasconi's. They've got the big pad lock up there
and a big city city that he noticed taped on
the door. Yeah, I was wondering, how do they keep
the owners out of those bars when they pad lock them.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
They pat lock them from the outside and you can't
get in. And so here we go. I'm sure the
owner of Love will have to fight for his license.

Speaker 5 (09:22):
I think that's somebody's gonna bring that up, somebody on
the downtown council or something. It always comes up, and
we gotta remember, this is one fight, one incident, and
I don't think one incident should decide whether a club
keeps their license or not. One incident, one incident. Leave

(09:49):
the man's license alone. Yes, And now politics is coming
into it. Marino, US Senator, Why don't he just keep
his deal with getting federal dollars into the state, Deal

(10:09):
with getting federal dollars into these public school systems that
you're taking it all away. Deal with that, get those
public dollars, get those federal dollars in here to the
public schools, and not worry about a fight that happened
on the corner of fourth.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
And now.

Speaker 4 (10:29):
You got.

Speaker 5 (10:33):
You got these politicians, and of course Bowman, who's running
for mayor. Of course they're really pouncing on aft Tab now,
oh man, this.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
Is all they need. Oh Aftab is the worst ever?

Speaker 1 (10:47):
Where is he?

Speaker 3 (10:48):
He's been missing in action? Why isn't he here? He
should have been Smithman's eye. He should have been riding.

Speaker 5 (10:55):
Around in his car listening to the police radio and
every incident he should show up there, you know, according
to smithman Or, he should be on the phone with
the governor. Get the governor to get the state patrol
in here. We want the National Guards posting on every corner.
Now how would that look for you come in from

(11:15):
the music festival and you see guys with their AK
forty seven's on every corner in camouflage uniforms. That's real welcoming,
don't you think. Oh my goodness, these cats, man, they
drive me crazy. They make me want to pull my
hair out. Oh boy, I mean And somebody, uh, one

(11:43):
of the white people that's on the chat says, Lincoln
is blocking for the mayor.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
Again.

Speaker 5 (11:51):
I don't have to block for the mayor. If I
block for anybody, it would be Chase Brown for the
Cincinnati Bengals. That's the only person I want to block four,
not the mayor. I think he can take care of himself.
He can take care of himself, all right. So yeah,

(12:15):
but I go back to this again. If the folks
down there, black folks just had a sucker punch the
guy and went on their separate ways, we wouldn't be
talking about this today.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
But that feeding frenzy.

Speaker 5 (12:27):
Everybody had to get a stomp in and this and
that it was uncalled for, totally uncalled for, totally out
of control.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
The guy who punched the woman totally out of control.
And uh, that's my take on that.

Speaker 5 (12:44):
I know there's some people that will probably disagree with me,
and there's some people that might agree with me.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
I don't care my phone number. You can call me
and tell me if five one three seven four nine
twelve thirty.

Speaker 5 (12:57):
You could come from behind that keyboard and tell me
pick up the phone, put the keyboard down and pick
up the phone. Five one, three seven four nine twelve thirty.
All right, We're gonna take a break and then we'll
come back. It's Lincoln Ware. It's Tuesday, twelve thirty. The
buzz it is Tuesday morning. And don't forget oh yeah,

(13:20):
one the final day for the bring your brand new
gym shoes in for the kids that we're passing out
before school starts, brand new shoes where the last day
to turn them in will be this coming Friday, from
four to seven. I'll be down at stagger Lee's at
twenty twenty Elm Street, twenty twenty Elm Street at the

(13:41):
brand new stagger Leees and we'll take some shoes down
there if you haven't had a chance to bring them down.
They must be brand new and sizes small kids all
the way up to teenagers. So get those shoes in.
Get those shoes in, and uh, we'll be good to go.

(14:03):
They must be new. We want these kiddos to start
the school with brand new shoes, So bring them down
to stagger Lee's their new location twenty twenty Elm Street
on Friday from four till seven. You better get some
good nights sleep on Thursday night tearing so hour you're
gonna be busy. You're working for Chad in the morning,

(14:27):
working for me morning, then you're working coming back working
for me in the afternoon. Down one you're doing some
stuff for him over there on one hundred point three,
so you'll be a busy man.

Speaker 3 (14:39):
Literally sun up to sundown man. Literally, that's crazy, that's crazy.
All right.

Speaker 5 (14:45):
Uh, let's go downtown to the Crime Stopper headquarters and
check in with my good friend, Detective Tiffany Green.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
How you doing today.

Speaker 7 (14:52):
I'm good, good morning.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
I'm hanging in there, hanging.

Speaker 5 (14:55):
In there, and uh, I know we got a lot
of people that are looking for today, but you you
always narrow it down to two people and what two
ethans are we looking for today?

Speaker 7 (15:05):
Cincinnati Police District three is looking for Dayton Knight. Mister
Knight is wanted for felony best felony's carrying constilled weapons.
During a criminal investigation, mister Knight was found to be
in possession of a firearm and stolen property. Dayton Knight
is a Mele White. He's forty four years old, six
foot and two hundred and thirty pounds. Dayton Knight has

(15:27):
a history of this early conduct in criminal damaging and
was last known to live on Queen City Avenue in Westwood.
Cincinnati Police District four is looking for Warren Spead. Mister
Sneed is wanted for felony strangulation. On July twenty sixth
of twenty twenty five, during a domestic servants, mister Speed
chokes the victim, making it difficult for them to breathe.

(15:50):
Warren Spead is a male black. He's fifty years old,
he's six foot and he's one ninety. Warren Spead has
a history of domestic violence in drug abuse and was
last known to live on Sutter Avenue and Fairmount. Listeners.
If anyone has information on where police can find Dayton Knight,
Old Warren Sne, please call crime Stoppers at five one

(16:11):
three three five two thirty forty or submit a tip
online at crime gas Stoppers dot us.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
All right, three five two thirty forty, night or day
that's always.

Speaker 5 (16:21):
Cash money for your clues. And I guess we'll talk
to you tomorrow. I will, okay, take it easy, all right.
That's Detective Tiffany Green down to crime Stoppers three five
two thirty forty. Now she'll leave crime Stoppers and go
to her other police job. And that's in the let's
see what is that's it's sort of like s SVU,

(16:44):
you know. But she, you know, she's got to wrap
up some cold cases that's out there before she moves
over to crime Stoppers for good.

Speaker 3 (16:53):
So we'll see. Maybe I'll help her on some of
those cases.

Speaker 5 (16:57):
You know, I watch FBI, I watch Chicago PD and
I watch Law and Order SVU.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
So I could probably help her on some of those cases.
I'm sure. Yeah, I can imagine that, being like the
Naked Gun movies. I can imagine that. Yeah, oh boy, unbelievable.

Speaker 5 (17:16):
Let's go to the phones. Greg Lansman is coming in
at eleven. Congressman Greg Lansman will be in at eleven.
I've got Scottie Johnson coming up at around eleven forty
five Scottie Johnson, and then I've got let's see, Kevin
Aldridge from the inquir coming in around the twelve thirty.

(17:38):
So we got them lined up. And if you check
Kevin Aldridg's story out in the inquir on the fight
and check him out today, he's got some comments and
he'll be in here to tell us about that. So
Kevin Aldridge from the Inquirer will be in and uh man,
there's a lot going on, all right.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
Let's go to Drew.

Speaker 4 (18:00):
How are you good?

Speaker 2 (18:02):
Now?

Speaker 8 (18:02):
You knowing my brother?

Speaker 3 (18:03):
What's going on?

Speaker 9 (18:05):
Not much?

Speaker 10 (18:05):
I heard you speaking on the incident downtown stuff like
that in front of the club, and I think You're right,
they probably will try to attack the business, but I
think that's the wrong way to handle it. Like businesses
don't put all this money into their businesses through I

(18:29):
had it closed, you know, months, and you know years,
a couple of years after there it's open, you know
what I mean. The streets belong to city, you know
what I mean. And you know you can protect the
business as much as you can, but you cannot penalize
these people to own these businesses. The things that people

(18:50):
decide to do outside of their business, you know what
I mean, You just can't do it. And there should
be a safety plan, you know what I mean. In
other words, if you know that and maybe some trouble
around uh uh black nightclubs in downtown, why not put
some patrol there, Yeah, only patrolling down on h on

(19:11):
Vine and Bain. Why not drop a couple of hats
there to keep it safe. You know what I'm not,
you know, not calling nobody out, and I'm just saying
you can, you can put this into a plan and
stop all this nonsense. You know outside these clubs and
these people at worked, you know, a lifetime to put

(19:31):
their money in and you know, you look up in
their clothes. Sconi is closed, you know, pad lot.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
Envy, Yes, are you kidding me?

Speaker 11 (19:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (19:45):
Man, because the lad.

Speaker 10 (19:48):
They didn't have a month, They didn't have a month.

Speaker 5 (19:51):
And the lady called me last week and uh it
was telling me how they came down and was asking
her where did you get the money to open up
the glob up and everything? And so she's already closed.
I was going to go in there to see her too,
and they're already closed.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
You're kidding me?

Speaker 10 (20:07):
Close many? So, I mean, we can't uh continue to
attack businesses like this. You know, we black folks are
using their lifetime savings try and start a business, you know,
more often than not without a business loan, without a
relationship with the banks. We don't have many of those,

(20:29):
you know, and to come in and close them for
things that other people do. I just don't think it's fairy.
Stop and think a look at hey, how do we
present this, you know, because it's been going on for
a long time. How do we think let's get some
you know, police details out there that's here, you know
what I mean? Like I said, they're they're free.

Speaker 5 (20:49):
Well, I mean, but the cry is that they don't
have enough police officers. They're short of police officers, and
you know they're trying to catch yep with the hiring
new classes. But uh, I mean they can't keep up
with the people who are retiring.

Speaker 10 (21:07):
I mean, but you know, just like you just said
a minute ago, you said they found five of the
people that were involved in the incident.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
Yes, uh, that was down there.

Speaker 10 (21:16):
Well what about all these young black men that have killed?
Robbie can't find out who's killing this though, but we
can find out who jumped on yeah, white folks in
from a night club within a two day period of time.
If we can do that, I think we can sell
on some of the crime in the black community.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
Yes, yes, well they claimed me homicide there.

Speaker 5 (21:38):
Their their uh uh homicide closing rate is like, uh,
almost one hundred percent, that's what they're saying.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
Really, so I don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (21:49):
I have to get some numbers from the chief.

Speaker 5 (21:52):
The next time I have her on the show here,
I need to probably give her a call anyway to
get her in here and see what's going on. But
uh uh, the fact that they let that crew, the
uh task force, go at two o'clock, right when the
bars are closing I thought that was a bad mistake.

Speaker 10 (22:11):
Now you got to look at the whole thing and
you gotta have knowledge of how this thing goes down.
I think the festival was a great event, yeah, you know. Yeah,
it was a celebration of black folks coming together, food, everything, culture,
and we got to be able to see that that
welcomes that, yes, you know what I mean, and understands

(22:31):
that and understands how to protect them. If you don't understand,
tap people in the community that do and understand.

Speaker 4 (22:38):
How lay these go, how we move, how we uh.

Speaker 10 (22:43):
Congregate and just be there. Years ago when this happened,
they used to just be there and let things you
know what I mean. If there was a problem, they
would step in, you know, yes, years ago and they
would let people, hey, come and have a good time.
And I think we should get back to that, you
know what I mean, and not I feel like that

(23:06):
a wonderfulful event like this. It's a part of this
city that don't care.

Speaker 4 (23:11):
If it happened or not, you know what I mean.

Speaker 10 (23:13):
That's that was proven because you remember it moved to Detroit.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
Yeah, to Detroit, yep. So they moved to Detroit by
what was it two years, maybe two years. I think
it was in Detroit, two or three. But I hear you.

Speaker 10 (23:27):
We got to be in the city that hince, the
city of Cincinnati got to learned to love his black
people and like his black people.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
All right, you know what I mean, Drew, I hear you.
Thanks for your call, all right, appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (23:38):
That's Andrew Williams who's owned a few bars in town,
and he's had some issues with liquor license before, so
he knows what's going.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
I did not know, Uh, what's.

Speaker 5 (23:49):
The name of the club with the v what's it
called vibe whatever right there there across from the air
and off.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
I did not know they were closed already.

Speaker 5 (23:57):
The lady called in clean for help weeks ago, and
I was gonna stop down there, and never got down
there in their clothes. Now, it's unbelievable, unbelievable. She didn't
last a month. A month and they had her out
of there. Let's take a break and we'll come back.
Twelve thirty. The buzz here's of course. They got their

(24:21):
star at the Cincinnati Black Music Walk of Fame. The
Ohio Players got their star on this past Saturday, and
it was great to see them get that, and they
should they should receive what.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
Did they get one for the Rock and Roll Hall
of Fame yet? Our Ohio player, I.

Speaker 5 (24:39):
Don't think they got that yet, but they're they're deserving
of that, the rock and roll But we had to
take care of them around their home first. So we
took care of them first, all right. Five, one, three, seven, four, nine,
twelve thirty. Greg Lansman, Congressman Greg Lansman coming up at
eleven o'clock. I got some questions for him too, as

(25:01):
far as how this thing is, how politics have taken
over this whole Cincinnati fight thing. JD Vance And I
think he's going out of town today. I saw cops
at some exit ramps and I think he's leaving Walnat
Hills and getting ready to go back to the airport.
And good Rittans don't come. Why would he come festival
weekend anyway where they have to close down the streets.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
If he wants to go anywhere and all that, stay
in DC.

Speaker 5 (25:28):
You're the vice president, keep your ass in DC and
stay out of Cincinnati.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
That's all I got to say.

Speaker 5 (25:34):
Oh, inconvenience those people, they close down their street, people
can't come visit them. They have to park on another
street and walk over all that stuff just because he's
in town. Unbelievable. All right, let's go to looks like
common senses up, common sense?

Speaker 9 (25:49):
How are you hey?

Speaker 1 (25:50):
I'm doing well. How are you my Marine brothers?

Speaker 3 (25:52):
I'm hanging in there. What's going on?

Speaker 8 (25:54):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (25:54):
Man, I'm just enjoying the show.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
Man.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Join this nonsense we got going on on over the country,
especially hear you know smith Man. I wanted to call
it that just too busy, But man, I was getting
the after after a section of the conversation that what
I gathered Now, I wasn't down there this year, this week,
this year. I didn't go, but I did see the
little incident on TV. Now let me ask you this man.
You're you're a season ticket.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
Holder, right, yes, yes, yes, ye?

Speaker 6 (26:21):
You go to Reds game sometimes to maybe two or
three a year.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
So how many times do you see fights down there?

Speaker 12 (26:27):
Fight?

Speaker 3 (26:28):
None?

Speaker 1 (26:28):
Now, you don't never see no fights at the Bengal game.

Speaker 3 (26:30):
I've seen something Bengal games, but not Reds games.

Speaker 12 (26:33):
Anyway.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
Have you ever heard anybody say we need to close
fall found now exactly? You drunk? Has white people get
down there and they.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
Act of fool. Yes again as soon as you know.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
And I'm just I'm saying that to make an example
because if you look at the big church, I think
we're ignoring the big picture here in America, Donald Trump,
Magas and the tea parties have created a climate of
us a kids to them?

Speaker 2 (26:58):
Am I room say that again?

Speaker 1 (27:00):
The Tea Party and these magas and these Nazis and
Donald Trump have all created a climate in America of
US against Yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
Yeah, oh yeah, no doubt about a.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
Surprise when a white boy gonna pull his hands, a
white boe pull his hand out of his pocket to
slap a black man, and all hell break loose because
black people sticking together.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
Yeah yeah, you see what I'm saying, right, wrong.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
Or indifferent, that's just the way it is. They created.

Speaker 9 (27:25):
Look at look at look.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
At Montgomery, Alabama.

Speaker 5 (27:27):
You see what happened right on the boat on the
boat when they came in and uh yeah, the guy
hit the black guy, and uh people came from everywhere.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
To protect the way.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
New York, the Haitians when they try to go up
in there. You understand what I'm saying. He created this environment.
Don't be surprised when we stick together. Don't be surprised
I had an incident. I thank god that I was
thirty seconds too late. I was a a. I was
at a little restaurant out here in Westchester going to
grab some lunch, and as I go to the door,
this guy walks past me, and then the girl comes

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behind it comes from behind the counter, tossing and fussing
this guy.

Speaker 8 (28:06):
You call me a what you call?

Speaker 1 (28:08):
Apparently the white guy called her the N word.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
No, man, you see what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
And I was thinking, I said, damn, I'm so grateful
that you know what I mean. I wasn't right there
to see it, because I don't know how I would
have reacted.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
Yeah, yeah, you.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
See what I'm saying. Now, I'm locked up for putting
my hands on a strained white boy. They ain't got
nothing to do with me, but I'm not gonna let
him disrespect nobody queen in front of him.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
Yeah, yeah, I hear you.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
So why could you better wake up? You know, y'all
you order doodo, you're gonna get doodo.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
Oh boy?

Speaker 5 (28:34):
All right, hey, thanks for you called common sense? All right, man,
all right, common sense is fired up. But yeah, I've
seen plenty of fights at bingo games, and it's because
of alcohol. And Chief was right. Alcohol was involved. Yes,
they were drunk. I've seen them fight on the club level. Yeah,
club level fights. So yeah, alcohol will make you do that.

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And that's what happened. And that night down on Fourth
and Elm. Alcohol blaming on the alcohol, Yes, that's what
you blame it on. All right, five, one, three, seven, nine,
twelve thirty. Let's go to Fraser. Fraser, how you doing?

Speaker 12 (29:20):
I'm all right?

Speaker 4 (29:21):
How are you?

Speaker 3 (29:22):
I'm hanging in there. What's up?

Speaker 4 (29:23):
Hey?

Speaker 12 (29:23):
Let me uh give me give me your WHI birth here?
Number one?

Speaker 2 (29:28):
Uh.

Speaker 12 (29:28):
If you listen to what Chief Siji said yesterday, the
police had trouble responding to the fight because of traffic.
You remember her saying that, you know, I don't know how.

Speaker 5 (29:39):
Much traffic there was at that time. I don't know
whether there was a whole lot of traffic on Friday.

Speaker 12 (29:45):
Night kept them from responding to the scene. Took him
about six minutes to get Yeah, yeah, you remember.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
Yeah, I heard her say six minutes to get there.
I did hear say that.

Speaker 12 (29:54):
You remember a few years ago when the police started
re routing traffic out of downtown.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
Yes, the show.

Speaker 12 (30:00):
Yeah, upset, this is what you get for changing traffic
path Yes, number two this we live in a society.
A response of society, which means we don't do anything
until after that occurred. So you and you mentioned something
about you know the fact that the special Unit just

(30:21):
banded at two a m. Is what the chief said. Yes,
they can't be there all night.

Speaker 5 (30:26):
Lincoln, they got to Well I know that, but it
seemed like they could have Okay, what time did they start?
I mean, I don't think they really needed the task
force there to after nine o'clock, you know, till the
sun goes down. They probably didn't need them there to
the sun was starting to go down, and that would
at least keep them there to after three o'clock.

Speaker 12 (30:47):
You see your comment you make you make black people
sound like vampires. They shouldn't beat the until after the.

Speaker 5 (30:52):
Sun well, because that's when everybody drunk by then. People
are drunk by then, That's when all the stuff starts.

Speaker 12 (31:00):
People get drunk all day long.

Speaker 5 (31:02):
Maybe and I think maybe they started too early, but
it was so much going on downtown. You got the rids,
you got you had something that music hall, they had
the Fiddler on the Roof at Music Hall, and you
had all this stuff the festival, you had Fountain Square,
you had all this stuff going on, and you know,
you can't help it. The Reds put their schedule out.

(31:24):
It seemed like for some reason they have the Reds
home every.

Speaker 3 (31:27):
Year during the festival.

Speaker 5 (31:29):
I don't know why it works out like that, but
it seems like they're in town every weekend that the
festival is here.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
And Uh, that's an extra problem you got to worry.

Speaker 12 (31:40):
About if that be the case, then you know, if
we know we're going to have a big weekend with
a lot of different events going on this night, police
and the city leaders have to prepare for that, and
it sounds like we weren't really prepared for figure and

(32:01):
it went.

Speaker 5 (32:01):
Down now and I'm wondering, can they can the Cincinnati
Police like on occasions like this, Uh, maybe if a
cop retired maybe a year or less, they could call
him back in for one day one weekend to work
and some kind of you know pain, you know, I guess, uh,
some kind of way, because I think they need to

(32:24):
bring some of these retired police who haven't been retired
no more than a year or so they need to
still be in some kind of shape to come in
and maybe work like they did with the Sheriff's department.

Speaker 3 (32:34):
The guy came you. He was retired, but he came
back to work. Could they do something like that?

Speaker 12 (32:39):
It's you know, that's that sounds like a pretty good idea.
You ought to you ought to approach chiefs and ask
her about that. That sounds like it might. Yeah, I'm
telling you. My wife and I went to the Indiana
Black Edxborough last weekend. And this is not apples and apples.
It's just a little bit of apples and orangists because
Indian Apples is state capital. But for the Indiana BLA,

(33:00):
they had a lot of stuff going on that weekend.
They had the sheriffs there, they had the police there,
they had the fire there, They had the state troopers
in town. They were all over the place. Every corner
you look there was a uniform off and nothing popped off.

Speaker 3 (33:17):
To think about it, but did it make it seem
like it was a police state?

Speaker 1 (33:20):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (33:21):
You get too many cops. There's like, you know, boys
just where we rush you what I mean?

Speaker 12 (33:29):
The police in Annapolis approached people when you talk to them.
They talked to you like your regular Yeah.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
Yeah, and they have been doing.

Speaker 5 (33:40):
Yes, I will give Cincinnati police credit the last few years.
I guess it started when Mallory was mayor. He made
the police, you know, roll out the red carpet and
be you know, have the hospitality training or whatever. But
they weren't nice. They would talk and you know, talk
with people and welcome him. But more time there it

(34:01):
was like us against them. They the police didn't want
you here and they made you wanted to make your
life miserable while you were here.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
Well, you know that was before the riots started, and.

Speaker 12 (34:11):
They should and police shouldn't have to be told to
do that.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
Yes, you're right, you shouldn't have to be.

Speaker 12 (34:15):
Told to act that way. But I'm telling you, uh,
you know, unless the city is going to be proactive
and start creating some public service announcements to tell adults,
don't tell the kids, because the kids aren't listening. They
need to tell the adults, the parents, the grandparents and
aunts and uncles that your children have caused this city

(34:37):
to behave a certain way in terms of policing. We're
gonna have police downtown every weekend for here on out.
Because your children don't know how to behave. Yes, you
have to sometimes you have to just put it, put
it out there like that. We need to quit baby
in these kids and just tell it like it is.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
All right. Hey, you're right.

Speaker 5 (34:57):
And uh we wonder why the teenagers act like this
when they see the adults carrying on like they were
carrying on. That's why the kids act like this. Hey,
thanks for your call. I gotta take a break. All right,
Let's take a quick break then we'll come back. It's
the Lincoln Wear Show, twelve thirty the Buzz.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
It is Tuesday and.

Speaker 5 (35:16):
Greg Landsman coming up at eleven o'clock and let's go
down to Atlanta, Georgia the atl Supreme.

Speaker 3 (35:24):
B How are you.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
Hey, I'm good, Lincoln. I just want to comment on
your fight on the video.

Speaker 12 (35:30):
Now.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
I've seen the video the other day. But one thing
I didn't hear nobody say was because the white guy
slapped the black guy, right, that's what that's what you're
say in the video, right? Well, yes, uh huh, yes,
the jumping wouldn't have happened if he had not slapped
that guy. But nobody said, Okay, well, we're gonna look

(35:52):
for that white guy to slap that black guy. We're
gonna charge him with a salt. Nobody's saying that.

Speaker 5 (35:55):
Well, well said, I said this earlier this morning. They
should charge him with assault.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
Yeah, they should, I mean, uh yeah, if they're gonna
charge some other people. Uh, this guy swung hit somebody.
That's assault exactly.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
And it wouldn't have happened had he not done that
because they were breaking up the fight, and once he
flapped him, that's when all hell broke loose.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
Yes, yes, when they.

Speaker 5 (36:21):
Got before that, before that, they were trying to keep
them separated, they were like people were coming in between.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
Both of them.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
That's true, that's exactly. But when they find the people
that did that, I can guarantee you they gonna try
to charge them like they murdered those folks.

Speaker 3 (36:36):
Well, they've got five of them already, so we had
to wait to see what happened.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
What was they charged with.

Speaker 5 (36:42):
I'm not sure yet, no charges. They haven't fouled charges yet,
but I think there have been some arrests made. I
guess we'll find that out later today, I'm sure.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
Okay, that's that's thanks for taking my call, all.

Speaker 5 (36:54):
Right, Supreme b From the at l Let's move along
five one, three, seven, four, nine, twelve thirty.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
Let's go to Stepan Stephan. How are you?

Speaker 2 (37:04):
I'm frying, brother Lincoln. How you feeling, my brother?

Speaker 3 (37:07):
I'm hanging in there. What's up?

Speaker 2 (37:08):
I say you're hosting stagger Leeds coming up on.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
Yeah, I'll be down there on Friday, and.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
We're gonna get your deal. We're gonna get your Crown
Morir deal. I guarantee that we're gonna get you that deal.

Speaker 12 (37:22):
Man.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
If I say something gonna happen, it's gonna happen, all right,
I hear you. So anyway, brother Lincoln, about my cousin,
she passed away man, she got the one guy shouting
on and the gas station, Shell gas station and Walnut Street.
If you passed away on us?

Speaker 13 (37:37):
Man?

Speaker 2 (37:37):
Peaka Mitchell.

Speaker 3 (37:39):
Oh that happened? What about three weeks ago?

Speaker 1 (37:42):
No?

Speaker 2 (37:43):
One and a half ago? Okay, all right, time fly
yeah muntin Ham. Yeah, she died. Went with from UC.
She was doing fine and she left u SE they
sent her to Christ's Hospital. Uh she broke in her
eyes up you know, I signals and all of a
sudden they sent her to a nursing home. Brother, in Clifton,

(38:04):
scholar Oaks is something up in Clifton. She stayed there
for two days and she's declined. She wind up, she
wind up passing.

Speaker 6 (38:11):
Man.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
We were seeing all the stuff going on. They need
to find these shooters out here shooting innocent people with
their coward ass.

Speaker 12 (38:20):
You know what I mean. That's real. Real.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
Made me upset with this one man. My first cousin
never bought nobody.

Speaker 12 (38:25):
Man a woman.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
Brother. It's sad. It's sad, brother. And I heard the
brother the incident that happened down there. My intake on
that if you if you charge people, charge that guy
and the Caucasian guy that touched them, that that guy
in charge them to. Uh, they ain't gonna shut down
Nobody's bar. They't gonna do that, not at all.

Speaker 4 (38:44):
That's in the.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
Business district Lincoln. That's why they all ain't getting their
offices down there.

Speaker 4 (38:50):
That ain't gonna even happen.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
Lion's bench chores, that's the Lion's visitors area right there.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
Bron Uh, this a meeting.

Speaker 5 (39:02):
Uh, believe me, they they listen, the city leaders listen
to those businessmen down now on Fourth Street.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
Let me chat, right, They ain't gonna see what they're
gonna do. Now, they're gonna tighten security up in front
of the club clubs down there. Now, that's what we're
gonna do on security guard. That's what you're gonna get.
They're not gonna shut down on liquor license. And then, no,
they're gonna never do that on Fourth Street. Why what
if it's a black run bar, they will Lincoln, Lincoln, Lincoln,

(39:29):
you know you know better than that. Lincoln. You know
shouldn't talk like that, Lincoln, you do that?

Speaker 5 (39:36):
Okay, Well tell me the last bar who lost their
license and shut the doors of closed in downtown Cincinnati.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
What street that saw? I'm gonna say it again.

Speaker 5 (39:46):
Uh, that's on Well, this this incident happened on the fourth,
but the other one's on what street is at?

Speaker 2 (39:52):
Uh? Ninth street?

Speaker 1 (39:54):
Is it not?

Speaker 11 (39:54):
No?

Speaker 2 (39:54):
I think it's like eight eight or ninth eighth street,
seven one of them. Anyway, that's Fourth Street. Thinking that's
not gonna happen down there. But all right, you know
that ain't nothing but hold on Lincoln. And then I'm
a studying Lincoln going to the Bible on this and
I'm a studying.

Speaker 3 (40:10):
Oh Lord, don't sneak preaching. Don't sneak preaching preaching.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
Then it's just then God created the milky ways and
the stars and the planets.

Speaker 4 (40:19):
Right.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
Why God couldn't write no book though? Why had to
be an author?

Speaker 1 (40:24):
Right?

Speaker 2 (40:24):
The Bible though? But God could write no book. I'm
just studying. I'm just studying that. It's let that sink
in a little bit. He couldn't write a book, but
he created the whole world, the universe anyway, Lincoln, and
might a little bit, yeah.

Speaker 3 (40:37):
Yeah, right over my head talking all this stuff.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
No, noah, nah nah.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
And then they said we stick together on the on
the fight. Ain't nothing wrong with that, But why we
can't But why we can't sit together when they're taking
property from black people, playing black people? He can't sit
together on that issue, Lincoln. And it's saying, how people
losing their homes taking a proper They got the butterpans
out here to this day, Lincoln, they saw people properties

(41:05):
and give them a damn invoice and take their land
up on the leans.

Speaker 4 (41:09):
You ain't saying this.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
Bill, we're gonna take your land. That Kaikers called Kaikers
Constructions supposed to be a black man company. But why
is y'all taking people property. Well, they keep doing this, Lincoln.

Speaker 3 (41:23):
Apparently it's not against the law what they're doing it because.

Speaker 5 (41:25):
They're doing it, and nobody has fought in court and won.
Nobody has fought them in court and won. So apparently
they're not breaking the law.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
I'm glad you're sinking they breaking the law like it
ain't nothing, Lincoln. Because the city council members making up
this law that is cool.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
To do that.

Speaker 3 (41:42):
Well, you just can't make up laws as you go.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
They been doing that for your taxing, baby, they made
that up, didn't they put that in place?

Speaker 5 (41:50):
I mean they didn't make it up. I mean it's
a good idea, the taxi bateman. I thought it was
a good idea.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
But you know who did this stuff, Lincoln. The lobbyists
do this stuff for these coler pisches, Lincoln. They want
to controlling the stuff, and nobody ain't saying nothing about it.
These coliticians actually mix up the laws with the lobbyists.

Speaker 12 (42:08):
All right.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
And these construction workers, Lincoln, what you just said, Lincoln,
these construction workers should be doing that. These developers fixed
people laying up the next door. They can't pay that
that that that that that that price that task. Next
the lean on the Bill Lincoln. Then you said they
can't fight it in court because he's damn lawyers kissing
the ass with with what the city is. When I

(42:28):
do that, I tell them true.

Speaker 3 (42:31):
All right, thanks for your God. All right, h he's
gonna do his best.

Speaker 5 (42:37):
Let's go to Renee. Renee is the first time caller.
How you doing, Renee?

Speaker 14 (42:43):
I'm doing okay.

Speaker 11 (42:44):
How are you?

Speaker 3 (42:45):
I'm hanging in there? What's up?

Speaker 14 (42:47):
First of all, your last callar got a motor mouse?

Speaker 3 (42:50):
Yes? I agree.

Speaker 14 (42:52):
Second of all, why didn't the rushing and the white
shirt get charged with misdemeanor assault since he initiated everything.
There's a video of him squaring up with somebody.

Speaker 5 (43:05):
Yeah, and they never showed that on TV. I just
don't understand why they never showed that part on TV.

Speaker 14 (43:12):
But go ahead, And they didn't show the part of
him slapping the guy in the red shirt first, So
he initiated it, so he should be charged with a misdemeanor.
I don't coutdone violence or everything that took play, but
I think he should be charged as well. And also

(43:32):
the cops they were too busy harassing black kid is
selling water to raise money for their football team. That's
why they were preoccuped.

Speaker 5 (43:44):
I'm not going to buy that. W When did the
cops harass kids selling water?

Speaker 1 (43:50):
Come?

Speaker 14 (43:50):
That was on Saturday?

Speaker 6 (43:52):
Where where downtown?

Speaker 14 (43:55):
Black kid is selling water on the corner. They jumped
out undercovered car. Then they can't sell water. Oh boy,
I just taken to the girls scouts selling cookies.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
I just don't believe that. But if you say it happened, uh,
you know, it.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
Actually did happen. We had one of what had one
of the bottle of water?

Speaker 3 (44:19):
Had one of the water boys? Give me a call.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
They are miners.

Speaker 5 (44:24):
Call, Yeah, miners can call if you're right there. I
just want to ask them to describe what happened.

Speaker 3 (44:31):
That's all. How old is the kid.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
Under?

Speaker 3 (44:35):
Okay? Have them call me, and I want to hear
exactly what happened. Uh you said they.

Speaker 5 (44:40):
Jumped out of cars and playing clothes and told them
they couldn't sell water.

Speaker 14 (44:44):
Yes, okay, on Saturday, Saturday afternoon?

Speaker 2 (44:48):
Downtown?

Speaker 3 (44:49):
What street? What street were we talking? What street?

Speaker 2 (44:51):
I can't remember the name of the showtreet All.

Speaker 3 (44:54):
Right, try to remember by the time you call me back.

Speaker 14 (44:57):
Okay, have a nice day.

Speaker 5 (44:58):
Thanks Renee. All right, let's break for news. We'll come back.
Greg Lansman. Congressman Greg Lansman is in the studio. Maybe
he can make some sense of all this thing has
gone political all of a sudden. They're from Washington, d c.
They're chiming in on what's going on in downtown Cincinnati.
The US Senator Marino from Ohio is chiming in on

(45:21):
what's going on downtown. It's unbelievable. Jd Vance. He lives
almost downtown, he's commented on. And of course it's half
brother who wants to be the mayor of the city,
is chiming in on it. He's making the whole city
administration look like the three Stoogents. It's unbelievable. Let's take

(45:41):
a break. We'll come back twelve thirty The Buzz with
you in the studio with me, Congressman Greg Lansman, And
I guess you're all for a few weeks.

Speaker 3 (45:51):
Now, huh?

Speaker 15 (45:51):
They yeah, until September, till September, Okay, we went. We
stopped early because they didn't want to vote on the
Epstein files, right, And I know that that sounds completely
unbelievable that they would shut down the United States Representatives,
but they did. So what happens is you have all
these bills that they're going to bring to the floor,

(46:12):
and the Rules Committee has to do that. It's it's
finishing touches before a bill comes to the floor. And
there are enough Republicans on the Rules Committee to support
a vote on releasing the Epstein files, and they shut
the Rules Committee and thus Congress down, and we essentially
we broke early because they don't want to deal with this.

(46:35):
And if those of you who haven't watched or followed
this story, watch on Netflix the documentary and that's probably
on YouTube too.

Speaker 3 (46:42):
I think, I don't know. It's called Filthy Rich.

Speaker 15 (46:45):
It's about what happened and all most of this took
place in Palm Springs, about a mile from Mar A Lago.
And you know, there is a reason why he's in
the Trump's in the Epstein files, and the fact that
you have like these filthy rich that's the name of
the documentary, people doing these terrible, terrible things, and then

(47:06):
they they get away with it because they got all
this money and their friends got all this money.

Speaker 3 (47:12):
But in the documentary you'll.

Speaker 15 (47:14):
See that he Epstein recorded a lot, and that's how
he sort of kept leverage on people. And so the
question is what's on the recordings, not just what's in
the files or and then the grand jury fouls you're
not going to find a whole lot. Well, the grand jury,
it just focuses on the testimony and the stuff related

(47:40):
to Jeffrey Epstein.

Speaker 3 (47:41):
And Gelon Maxwell.

Speaker 15 (47:44):
But it's not all of the files, it's not all
the witness testimonies, it's not the recordings, it's not the
video like he had in his penthouse studio in New York,
like a recording studio. He recorded everyone, all of these
super wealthy people who or paying for sex, many of
whom were paying for.

Speaker 5 (48:03):
Sex with girls, little girls. Disgusting, unbelievable, unbelievable, And who
knows she.

Speaker 15 (48:10):
Might get a part and can you imagine? Can you imagine?
I mean, she's she's a for those again. Maxwell was
Epstein's sort of partner in crime. She did it for
I don't know a decade or two where she was
going and getting trafficking women, and not just for Epstein

(48:31):
but for other clients. She went to jail for twenty years.
And the Trump administration has a has staff going to
talk to her to seemingly cut some sort of deal
where she says something that's beneficial to Trump. I don't
really know in exchange for getting out, I know. And

(48:54):
here's what you don't want to like, this is why
the documentary is also really important. Like you get to
meet some of the victims. They were thirteen, they were fourteen, fifteen,
sixteen year old girls. All of them are vulnerable, or
most of them, and they preyed on them, and you know,
some of them are forever broken, and some of them

(49:14):
are no longer here because they killed themselves, like you know,
and like this guy would pardon her, like one of
the most notorious sex traffickers ever.

Speaker 5 (49:22):
Well that sounds like he said, Well, nobody has contacted
me yet for it, but if they do, I might
go ahead and do it. You know, give her apart now, yep,
I tell you Net and Yahoo and those starving Palaceians.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
He claimed, there's no starvation going on there, and you
can see it.

Speaker 15 (49:41):
He's done that with me. So I've been to I
went to Rafa last year. Rafa was where a lot
of the aid comes in. I mean, the humanitarian aid
situation has been a big priority for me, just because
it's so it's so it's awful, right, and it's it's
it's children.

Speaker 6 (50:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (50:01):
Yeah, So that that point in February last year, they
had one opening where they were doing they were doing trucks,
they were sending trucks in, but it was just one opening.

Speaker 3 (50:10):
And we went to that one opening in rough.

Speaker 15 (50:11):
I think I'm one of only two or three members
of three members of Congress that have done that, and
you could see like there's an issue. And so then
we met with the Netnyahu afterwards, maybe that later that
day or the next day, and I went hard and
just said like, you got to open up more crossings.

Speaker 1 (50:28):
Now.

Speaker 15 (50:28):
They ended up doing six and so aid started going, right,
it got better, And then I'm not saying that was
because of me, but I did say, like, you can't
have just one crop, like you have to have six
or seven openings because Hamas does divert the trucks. And
I'm like, well, if you have one opening and they
know all the trucks are coming in from this one spot, right,
that's where they're going to go.

Speaker 3 (50:48):
So flood it. Flood the flood it.

Speaker 15 (50:50):
With humanitarian aid. And that started happening, not to the
extent it should. But then you know, know, you know
they got the cease fire agreement. You know, hamas you know,
goes back on the agreement. They're not going to release
the rest of the hostages, and so things went sideways.
But now after a lot of pressure including it, like

(51:14):
I I was just there a couple of months ago
and said, like you have to like this is this
is awful, Like you have got to Yeah.

Speaker 5 (51:20):
I mean, you see the video there the starving kids.
They should have won this morning. She was just they
showed her when she was healthy and happy, and then
they showed her in the bed. I'm like, come on,
this can't be going on here.

Speaker 3 (51:32):
They got to stop it. Yeah. So I did a.

Speaker 15 (51:37):
Piece on this because I do think like the best,
like if we all can get on the same page.

Speaker 3 (51:42):
I know this is gonna be tough.

Speaker 15 (51:43):
But like, on one hand, the pressure on who has helped, right,
they're they're they're dramatically increasing the aid they have. They started,
they restarted aid, but it wasn't in enough places. And
and then you know they they're doing the air drop,
they're doing the humanitarian poses, which is a huge deal,
right because like then there's these corridors and people can

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and they're air dropping in their air dropping. So all
that they've they've strengthened their partnership with the World Food Program.
There are issues with Hamas continuing to take food. So
just I only say that because like people should put
pressure on them. Hamas cares what people say on social media.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
They do.

Speaker 15 (52:21):
And then you have Cutter that has Hamas leaders, like
I don't know why they don't attain them until the
humanitarian crisis is over, the hostages are released and the
war's over, like, detain every one of those Hamas leaders
and Cutter. We sent a letter to Cutter yesterday saying like,
detain these people. And what they say, I mean, we
haven't got it late yesterday, but okay, so they did

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send a letter. And the UN and UNRAH they have
issues too because they don't want to work with Israel
and seem bias. So there's a whole bunch of things.
If everyone wants to read, it's on our substeck. But
you know, it's one of those things where a bunch
of things have to happen, and if we all push
on all of these things like net, Yahoo, but also
on Cutter, Hamas are on others that are unruh, like

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that's how we're going to solve it.

Speaker 3 (53:13):
All right, Well, let's see's awful.

Speaker 5 (53:16):
I think that since the last time I saw you,
they passed a big, beautiful bill. Medicaid seems to be
a big issue around this part of the country. Yeah,
this part of the state, Medicaid. What's gonna happen with medicaid?
And even the people who voted for Trump, some of
their hospitals are going to close down out in the
rural areas of the state.

Speaker 3 (53:36):
So what's going on with that?

Speaker 15 (53:37):
Yeah, they say, you know, something like over three hundred hospitals,
rural hospitals will close down.

Speaker 3 (53:42):
It's a huge hit to children's hospitals too.

Speaker 15 (53:43):
I mean fifty percent of children's hospitals, or at least
our children's hospital, their revenue comes from medicaid.

Speaker 14 (53:49):
Really.

Speaker 3 (53:49):
Yeah, it's almost you know, trillion.

Speaker 15 (53:52):
Dollars in Medicaid cuts in the end, all to pay
for tax cuts for millionaires, billionaires and big corporations, Meaning
that if you had just paid or just done the
tax relief, kept the tax relief for folks who need it,
and reset or just allowed the tax cuts for the
super wealthy to lapse or to go back to the

(54:14):
twenty seventeen numbers, there'd be no deficit spending and everyone
could keep their health care. They didn't do waste, fraud,
and abuse. What they did was they cut the provider
tax and a whole bunch of other things that will
take away healthcare from fifteen million Americans. You're talking about
hundreds of thousands of Ohioans who are going to lose
their health care when you take that much money out
of the healthcare system.

Speaker 3 (54:35):
Hospitals will shutter.

Speaker 15 (54:36):
Their doors, and then the people who work for those hospitals,
the doctor's offices, all those other the pharmaci all those
people shutter their doors, and so everyone loses access or
their access to care diminishes.

Speaker 3 (54:49):
All for what to pay for these tax cuts.

Speaker 15 (54:52):
For millionaires, millionaires in big corporations like it was a
decision do the super wealthy pay thirty seven percent or
thirty nine percent, or do we take healthcare away from
fifteen million people. They chose healthcare away from fifty million people.
I mean, it's just an insane decision. And I also
released sort of a governing document that would fix this,

(55:16):
fix the tax code, restore healthcare for everyone and pay
down the debt and balance the budget. You can also
find that on the substack, and we're releasing the full plan,
but it's ten bills that would essentially fix not just
the economy, the affordability issue, restoring people's healthcare, but take
on public safety, national security.

Speaker 3 (55:36):
It's sort of like.

Speaker 15 (55:38):
Where the country should be going, because I think people
need that, they want something to hold on to that
isn't just what they're doing is awful, because what they're
doing is awful, but like, where do we go?

Speaker 3 (55:47):
How do we fix this? I lay all that out And.

Speaker 5 (55:49):
Now, by the way, thanks for getting Jasmin Krockett on.
That was just fun, good time. Yes, yes, I was
glad to have her on. Now I want to ask
you about the Democrats. By the way, five one three
seven four nine twelve thirty. You've got a question for
Greg Landsman. You better call me right now five to one,
three seven, four nine twelve thirty. U have the Democrats

(56:10):
come up with the plan for the mid terms yet?
I mean, I mean, I think the opportunities are there,
So what's the plan?

Speaker 3 (56:18):
What's the plan?

Speaker 15 (56:19):
So, I, on one hand, there's a lot going on
where they're you know, people are running, They're raising a
ton of money, and they're they're fielding candidates and and
you know, they're they're trying to you know, fight this
redistricting absurdity, you know where they're literally going to rig
this at least attempt to rig it by uh, you know,

(56:40):
redistricting places where you're not supposed to redistrict like Texas.

Speaker 3 (56:44):
Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 15 (56:45):
And I think I've said this to you before, but
I think the biggest mistake that has been made is
not passing the the Voting Rights Bill, the John Lewis
Voting Rights Bill, which would have ended voter suppression, ended
partisan jerry mandering, and ban dark money. That is the
most important fix to our democracy, which then leads to

(57:07):
better policies for people, so that the super wealthy and
the well off, like the super plugged in they're not
running the show right now. It's billionaires and these super
plugged in people who are running the show.

Speaker 3 (57:22):
It's not us. We're not running the show. Yeah. So
I only need a few more people and you can
run the show.

Speaker 1 (57:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (57:28):
And what I call for is not just you know,
sort of our ten bills, like remember the contract with
America in nineteen ninety four. So I laid out a
pledge for America or to America where it lifts out
to ten bills, and I'm encouraging my colleagues like go
talk about this or make your own ten bills, like
show us yes and leadership. I've been working with them

(57:51):
on this, like you know, you know, layout a vision
for where we're going to go. And it's just it's
easy enough for me for Harkeem because he's got to
get the whole caucus.

Speaker 3 (58:02):
You know, in the same place.

Speaker 15 (58:03):
So like I'm putting mine out there so that people
can say, Okay, this is this is a better direction.
But I also call for a new entity. There needs
to be a new national entity that's focused entirely on
this moment. Yeah, yeah, And I have been working with
leadership to sort of set that up. But it's got
to have the right leader, somebody who's tough and who's
just gonna go. You got to say the right thing, yeah,

(58:23):
you know, who gets who gets the messaging in a
place where the vast majority of Americans are like, Okay,
that's where I want to go.

Speaker 3 (58:32):
I want us to go in that direction.

Speaker 5 (58:34):
Somebody said, what killed the Democrats with two words that
they said during the campaign last year was status quo.

Speaker 3 (58:41):
They used that term too much. Status quo. Yep No.

Speaker 15 (58:45):
So like this is why when you lay out a
governing document like I did, it is an anti establishment,
reform based, anti status quo governing document. I mean it
changes everything like the ten bill. It fixes the tax
code because the tax code's broken. As a result, the
economy is broken, it's rigged against people. It deals with

(59:06):
the affordability issue with housing and how to build more
housing and get rents down. It deals with healthcare costs
and how to restore those healthcare benefits and get costs
down so that it's affordable. It deals with the fact
that government needs to be fixed. That like when I
call I want good service, I want things to and

(59:26):
when I see my elected officials pass something and they're
going to go build something, they've got to go build
it fast. So it fixes government. It takes on public safety,
it takes on national security. It takes on immigration, the
right way, border security, and pathways to folks who have
been working here, the dreamers. So I lay out all
of this in what is the most anti status quo

(59:48):
reform based way, and I think most people will read.

Speaker 3 (59:52):
It and be like, yeah, that's the direction. All right,
you should go. Let's take a quick break.

Speaker 5 (59:55):
We'll come back and go to the phones right here
on the Lincoln Wear Show twelve, the buzz talk station.
It's Lincoln where we've got Congressman Greg Landsman in the
studio and we've got you on the line.

Speaker 3 (01:00:09):
We'll get to you in just a second.

Speaker 5 (01:00:10):
All this stuff about downtown Cincinnati, what's your take on
what's your take on this?

Speaker 6 (01:00:16):
Greg Man?

Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
I watch the videos.

Speaker 15 (01:00:17):
Uh, it's obviously it's terrible, and you know the police
chief has taken it seriously, which is good. The investigation
is already what yielded five arrests. I suspect there will
be more, the prosecutors saying that we're going to prosecute
everybody that was involved, which is good. And then I

(01:00:38):
just think we got to be we got to be
conscious about not getting divided, because like people see this
nationally as an opportunity to divide us, and like this
requires people working together and and and and figuring out
how to make sure one people who need to be
held accountable are they go to jail, and that you know,

(01:00:59):
you short through and a I think in a prop
collaborative problem solving based way, like okay, how do you
avoid you know, something like this happening again? Some of
it's you know, you're potentially unavoidable, but in terms of
like people fighting, but this getting to the way it
was or you know, out of hand as a guy like, yeah,

(01:01:21):
this is where and I think they're all meeting tonight
to talk through this.

Speaker 3 (01:01:25):
The business people.

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
You know.

Speaker 15 (01:01:27):
Yes, I think one of the you know, the things
that Cincinnaty has going for it is the work that
Iris Rolling and others have put together around problem solving
and Sarah Sarah's the problem solving model where you you
do the investigations, you do the law enforcement piece, you like,
you do that, and you do it with integrity, uh,
and where people can say okay, I trust this, I

(01:01:49):
feel safer and then you start to say, okay, let's
look at everything and start problem solving together to see like,
how do we make sure that you know, people are
safe across across the city everywhere.

Speaker 3 (01:02:02):
All right, let's go to the phones.

Speaker 5 (01:02:03):
Let's say we've got cam twin Lady c Ward holding
on cam.

Speaker 3 (01:02:07):
How you doing good?

Speaker 16 (01:02:09):
Morn into my congress, how you doing how averybody good,
I'm good, I'm good. I got a question for you, Congressman.

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
Now.

Speaker 16 (01:02:18):
I appreciate all your hard work, your work around transportation,
your work around everything that you're doing. I'm concerned though,
about this effort to redistrict Ohio, Texas and other places
that has coming up, and it looks like they're coming
for you. So I would like to know, like what
we can do as residents to support you in this

(01:02:40):
effort because they're basically trying to cheat to win.

Speaker 4 (01:02:44):
So ill my dancer off air.

Speaker 15 (01:02:46):
All right, thanks skim. I you know the the Ohio
you know, uh is a four year map and so
they have to redraw them. It's Texas is just like
straight up rigging. They're just trying to like, you know,
get fire more seats in Ohio.

Speaker 17 (01:03:02):
Though.

Speaker 15 (01:03:02):
The question is is like, if you draw fair maps,
it's probably a nine What did Trump win Ohio by?
Was it eight eight or something like that or maybe
maybe you know, so like you're talking about nine six
because it's fifteen congressional seats, so they you know, they
should draw a nine to six map. That's not what
they're going to do. But you know, this is why

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you have to end partisan jerry mandering. Democrats had the
White House, the House, and the Senate, and because of
Joe Manchin and Christian Cinema, we did not pass a
John Lewis footing right tack and that just can't see
when we had control and we didn't pass correct And
so this is I say this not to be a jerk.
I used to say it because like the next time
you have that opportunity, you cannot let it go. Like
you cannot. You have to end voter suppression, you have

(01:03:48):
to end partisan jerry mandering. You have to get this
money out of politics, because corruption is killing politics and
it's hurting people. And then in terms of what people
can do, like the louder, people can be about fair maps,
like legal maps and what it should look like and
to hold those folks in Columbus accountable to a fair map.

(01:04:10):
You know, this district this first congression was gerrymander to
help shab it right, and we ended up winning by
five and then we won by ten. So like I
feel like we're doing the things that are necessary to
be like stop gerrymandering this district, but stop gerrymandering in general,
like in neither party should do it. Like I agree

(01:04:30):
that Democrats can't sit idly by when they go and
try to Jerrymander Texas and those kinds of places, but
don't be gleeful about it. Don't say bring it on,
as Newsome did say, this is terrible, like we may
have to do it, but like, don't do No. Democrats
shouldn't do it, Republicans shouldn't do it. This is one
of the reasons why people are so pissed off at

(01:04:53):
both parties, like don't Gerrymander, don't take corporate pac money,
don't don't do anything other than represent us.

Speaker 3 (01:05:00):
Sorry, all right, let's see. Oh I was just getting
ready to go to Lady Cea. She hung up. What
how are you come?

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
All right?

Speaker 3 (01:05:07):
You're doing I'm hanging in there? What's up?

Speaker 17 (01:05:10):
I just want to say to a councilman claim man.
I just met him down at the accessival a couple
of weeks ago, and I gave him a Miss Crockett
kudos for their job they're doing up there. Well, my
question is why is there any time limits put to
send it in a house? I mean, you know the

(01:05:30):
president do eight years?

Speaker 4 (01:05:33):
Yeah, you know, yeah, So why how can they?

Speaker 5 (01:05:36):
Okay, you want term limits for the Senate, term limits
for the sin you wanted for, well the representatives also
Senate air reps.

Speaker 3 (01:05:44):
Okay, yeah, I agree, Okay, so I am.

Speaker 15 (01:05:46):
I'm one of very few people in the House who
signed on UH for term limits, although it's a growing number.
I believe in term limits. We have termulins at City Hall.
I thought it was great, like, it doesn't mean you
can't come back. Remember David Man came back and like
that help me as a new member of council. I
remember David Man coming back and being like, oh, that's
a big deal. Like because I would go to David

(01:06:06):
Man and be like, what am I supposed to do?

Speaker 1 (01:06:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:06:08):
Yeah, but he you can only do.

Speaker 15 (01:06:13):
What is it eight years on city council before you
have to take And I think Windburn came back too,
like you can come back anyway. Point is I support
term limits for both the House, the Senate, and the
Supreme Court. The Supreme Court definitely the Supreme Court eighteen years,
that's it. Uh And then that then you don't get
like that's it. Yeah and so, but but I do

(01:06:37):
believe in term limits. But the there is an election
every two years, and the House and the Senate could change,
but we need a Congress that will upend the status
quo as you like. Like, the status quo is not
working for the vast majority of Americans. It's only really

(01:07:00):
working for the filthy rich. That's what I'm like, the
super wealthy. Oh yeah, and they're they're they're crushing it.
They're living their best lives. I mean, Jeff Bezos g gonna,
he had a fifty million dollar wedding. He's sending his
his his now wife, and and Katy Perry into space.
And look at Elon Musk just buying whatever he wants.

Speaker 3 (01:07:17):
And you know, and and Trump.

Speaker 15 (01:07:20):
Trump's made billions since he oh yeah president, in six
or seven months. How you how you make billions in Italy.

Speaker 3 (01:07:27):
He's over in Ireland at his golf, the family golf
course over sheeting. Did you see the video of him cheating?
I didn't see it.

Speaker 15 (01:07:34):
I guess somebody was, just because it says a lot
about a person. Look if I if I play golf
with my son and I drop a ball, I say
I'm dropping a ball, right, you don't just sneak it
out of your pocket. Well, the video is him just
sneaking it out of his pocket.

Speaker 5 (01:07:50):
Oh, it's like, come on, man, he I unbelievab all right,
final call twin.

Speaker 12 (01:07:57):
What's up? What's up? Greg?

Speaker 3 (01:08:00):
How are you?

Speaker 9 (01:08:01):
Let's learning from input on this?

Speaker 8 (01:08:02):
Man?

Speaker 9 (01:08:03):
Okay, hey man, we've been you know, I don't condone
what went on the other day over the weekend, but
you gotta look at this. Man. It just y'all just
go focus on downtown but not other areas. So what
is the money making thing? Man? Come on, man, we
gotta do better.

Speaker 3 (01:08:21):
Well, Downtown is the heart of the city.

Speaker 13 (01:08:23):
When the heartstop, balk, I'm talking to Wait what I'm.

Speaker 4 (01:08:26):
Just telling you.

Speaker 3 (01:08:26):
When the heart stops beating, the body just dies and falls.
It's over. So you got to keep the heart beating.

Speaker 13 (01:08:34):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:08:34):
How long it is? Go beat?

Speaker 3 (01:08:36):
Man?

Speaker 13 (01:08:37):
How long is go beat? You just can't focus on downtown.
You got other communities too, just because we've been crying
for four Honey, here all of a sudden, I'm not
a racist person, but you know that. You know, the
white people come along, y'all take care of him and
all that.

Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
What about us?

Speaker 13 (01:08:53):
We've been getting messed up for so long.

Speaker 9 (01:08:55):
Man to being but look at.

Speaker 3 (01:08:57):
You let him respond, Yeah, yeah, no, I appreciate that.

Speaker 15 (01:09:02):
I mean, I hope this doesn't come off pandering, because
like I don't mean it, but I just remember I
remember somebody running from mayor in Chicago and I was
reading it in the paper, and they talked about public
safety as a civil right that was being denied too
many people in too many neighborhoods, right like you should
be free to walk around and walk to school. And

(01:09:28):
I always thought that was a good way of framing it,
which is that it is a fundamental right to be free,
free from fear, and you have too many people and
too many spots all over the country and in the
city that don't feel that way. And so yeah, it's
not just downtown. And I do think it's one of
those things where it's not just about public safety. It

(01:09:48):
is a freedom issue. And I thought that was a
good way to think about it. And that means that
you bring people together, police community leaders. I mean, like
we've done when we've really hit it out of the
park in terms of taking a place that was problematic
and making it safe, it was because we used a

(01:10:08):
particular approach. This is the Sarah you know Irish role a,
you know, community policing and CPD's gotten really good at it.

Speaker 5 (01:10:18):
Yeah, but that's the approach that works, all right. I
want to take one final call, Sister v you have
a question.

Speaker 8 (01:10:25):
I do have a question, Lincoln.

Speaker 2 (01:10:27):
How you doing?

Speaker 4 (01:10:27):
Greg Lance?

Speaker 12 (01:10:28):
Good?

Speaker 4 (01:10:28):
How are you listen?

Speaker 8 (01:10:30):
I spoke with you before about the situation in Palestine,
and it's not just Palestine, it's in the West Bank
as well.

Speaker 3 (01:10:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:10:38):
I get my news from all different sources, including Democracy.
Now they have been doing some very very serious reporting
about what's going on over there, and honestly, I don't
hear you really condemning what Metan Yahoo is doing. What
is going on there is ethnic cleansing because they want
the land, and what I hear you pushing is the

(01:10:58):
Hamas propaganda and death. What do you support a two
state solution? Sir?

Speaker 3 (01:11:04):
Oh my god? Yeah?

Speaker 8 (01:11:06):
Yeah, how do you all.

Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
Expect to get it?

Speaker 8 (01:11:08):
If it's real controls every aspect.

Speaker 4 (01:11:11):
Of their lives?

Speaker 8 (01:11:11):
And then you all say it's not apartheid. They control
the water, the air.

Speaker 4 (01:11:16):
They breathe, so and yeah, I mean the boat.

Speaker 8 (01:11:20):
And so it's clear who is in the driver's seat
of this, and so I don't hear you condemning the
actions of them being shot down like dogs.

Speaker 2 (01:11:31):
I don't hear you.

Speaker 8 (01:11:32):
What I hear you doing is pushing the propaganda that
it's all a mos that's old and tired.

Speaker 4 (01:11:37):
Sir.

Speaker 15 (01:11:38):
Yeah, I mean, look it is, you know, one of
the most complicated situations. I am a two stage solution guy.
This is one of the reasons why I work on
this issue more than you know, probably I should. I don't,
you know, like this is my district and it's not
h it. You know, it's something that I cared deeply about.

(01:12:01):
I remember watching as a kid, and I wrote about
this in an op ed that's we can send it
around or I can post it somewhere here where I
lay out how to get to peace. And because one
of the reasons I got into politics was I remember
watching Clinton and thinking to myself in nineteen ninety four, like,

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that's where we got to go. And maybe it was
ninety three where he got a deal with Arafat, who
was the head of the PLO at the time, and Rabine,
who was the Prime Minister of Israel at the time.
And we haven't been back to that place in a while.
And I want to be part of the generation of
people that do. And so yes, you know, I'm one

(01:12:44):
of the few folks who go and like will say
to the Prime Minister and others like, this is what
I believe you have to do, like speaking truth to power.
The fact of the matter is is that the only
way you're going to get to a two stage solution
is if you have new governing authorities that are free
of terror and corruption in both the West Bank and Gossa.

Speaker 8 (01:13:05):
Everyone believes that there's corruption in Israel. Yahoo, I mean,
he's a war criminal. I can't. You can't on one
hand condemn one while you while upholding the other. Yeah,
that's not gonna work either. And all I'm saying to
you is the world is watching. And I would say
to the Jewish people they are in Israel right now

(01:13:27):
protesting as well.

Speaker 3 (01:13:29):
Because you can't on one hand want us because.

Speaker 8 (01:13:31):
It is the pain of the Holocaust that you all
went through or your people went through. But at the
same time, we're not supposed to feel for what is
going on over there. Now we've done to other people.

Speaker 2 (01:13:43):
You have to come out and condemn met and Yahoo.

Speaker 8 (01:13:46):
And the current leadership that's doing this to the Palestinian people.
This is a land grab and it's genocide, a lot
of people are not my stuff. We know who in control,
So please don't keep pushing that Hamas propaganda that they're
causing all of it. Therefore we need to starve the

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entire nation of people.

Speaker 15 (01:14:10):
But just now stay on the line if you wouldn't mind, Uh,
have you called on Hamoster released the hostages?

Speaker 8 (01:14:18):
You're asking me? Have I called on Homa for you?

Speaker 4 (01:14:22):
Like?

Speaker 3 (01:14:22):
Do you do you want Hamoster release the hostages than
the world.

Speaker 8 (01:14:24):
I'm saying to you, you don't starve out a whole nation.

Speaker 3 (01:14:27):
I don't disagree like you and I agree on this.

Speaker 6 (01:14:29):
I'm saying like, if you.

Speaker 8 (01:14:30):
Got a problem with Hamas, then deal with a moss.
You guys have a problem with net and Yahoo, and
I just don't hear the condemnation on that side.

Speaker 4 (01:14:38):
Either need to do it.

Speaker 8 (01:14:41):
I just didntinue to push and say this is happening
to the Palestinians because.

Speaker 10 (01:14:46):
Of a mosque.

Speaker 8 (01:14:47):
That's like saying this is happening to everybody in the
US because of the Republican Party or the Democrat Party.

Speaker 2 (01:14:54):
So therefore we go in and.

Speaker 8 (01:14:55):
Just wipe them all out there, I mean, come on,
the lot that is just not there, all right, it's
not there. And we can't lose our humanity by looking
at you say, well, you know it's the moss is
not releasing the hostages. Well you know what, Israel has
hostages too.

Speaker 3 (01:15:12):
No they don't, No, they don't. They let everybody go.
Now like these everybody's gone.

Speaker 15 (01:15:18):
These are like and they're not innocent people like they're
sitting there like now, this is part of the problem.

Speaker 3 (01:15:26):
I want this word to end.

Speaker 12 (01:15:27):
One.

Speaker 15 (01:15:29):
I want this word to end, but like to be clear,
like Israel is a liberal democracy. They Netanyahu has a
a a kanesset that he's responsible for.

Speaker 3 (01:15:39):
Uh.

Speaker 15 (01:15:39):
He that that that the coalition government may fall apart
at any minute. Uh, and there will be elections next year.
That does not exist in Gaza. They have not held
elections in fifteen years. And for for people to say, like, hey,
you've got to do more to put pressure on net Yahoo,
which I've done, hold on the reason why we can't
get anywhere because we have a status quose because Hamask

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gets a free pass, Cutter gets a free pass, Under
gets a free pass.

Speaker 3 (01:16:06):
And Iron gets a free pass. Stop giving them a
free pass, all right, just to be wrapping up anything else.

Speaker 8 (01:16:12):
Again, He's pushing that propaganda.

Speaker 4 (01:16:15):
Propaganda again, it's very.

Speaker 8 (01:16:17):
Much propaganda and that has to stay out there in
the universe to keep us from turning our.

Speaker 10 (01:16:24):
Backs on what is going on.

Speaker 4 (01:16:26):
It needs to stop it.

Speaker 8 (01:16:27):
And I hear what you're saying, but I believe that
you know again, the information is that Homo situation is
a lot of property. Continue to genocide the people and land.

Speaker 3 (01:16:39):
And I gotta go. Thanks for your call.

Speaker 5 (01:16:41):
So wait, Israel, they don't have any prisoners they have
I mean, they don't have hotage the prisoners prisoners.

Speaker 15 (01:16:47):
Okay, yeah, I mean, look, let me tell you something.
You can be pissed, me very clear about this. You
can be pissed and upset about what's going on, and Gods,
I hate it, Like this is like the worst thing ever.
To call it genocide is to say, to be clear
that the Jewish people are evil people who are trying

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to exterminate another group of people. And that is the
kind of blood libel that is at the heart of
anti Semitism period. And so like people don't want to
hear it, but I'm just telling you as a Jew,
as a Jew has studied anti Semitism and Jewish history
of a master's in theological studies. This is at the
heart of anti Semitism, and so yeah, like for some

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people it's like, well, I'm just saying it's bad. Well, sure,
it's very bad. But then somebody else takes genocide and
they go shoot Jews and they go kill Jews because
it's like, well, Jews are killing people, you know, innocent people.
They're trying to wipe them off the face of the earth.
So I'm going to go kill Jews. And that has
happened and it's going to continue to happen unless people say, look,

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I just want this word end. I would like to
all look at the whole picture. And the whole picture
is is more than that in Yahoo. But am I
somebody who's criticizing I criticized him to his face. Yeah,
you did say that early on that you did get
on this case.

Speaker 3 (01:18:10):
All right, Greg Lansman. We'll see you next month. Yeah,
we'll see you next month.

Speaker 5 (01:18:14):
Okay, all right, thanks for stopping by. We're so late
for break. We'll take a break and then we'll come back.
Twelve thirty The buzz out Station, it's the Lincoln were
show on a Tuesday, and we got the guests rolling
in Landsman.

Speaker 3 (01:18:28):
Greg Landsman was.

Speaker 5 (01:18:29):
In here and took a few calls and Sister Be
Sister Be brought its Scottie Johnson.

Speaker 6 (01:18:38):
Welcome to the show, and you can always a pleasure,
sir Man, I.

Speaker 3 (01:18:42):
Tell you so much is going on the issue on
Saturday morning.

Speaker 6 (01:18:49):
Man.

Speaker 18 (01:18:50):
So you know, Lincoln, let me say this. I am
glad that the police chief made it crystal clear that
this was not just in it some people walking down
the street and they were attacked. You know, the police

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chief did a remarkable job on clearing up a lot
of emotional misconceptions. And it was completely irresponsible of a
state senator. It was completely irresponsible of the vice president,
completely irresponsible of others talking about a situation they had

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no facts on. Now, let me be crystal clear, Lincoln,
none of us condone seeing any human being getting kicked
in the face and stomped in the head. Nobody with
any sense says, oh yeah, okay, that's all right.

Speaker 6 (01:19:51):
But think about this, and I'm going to use this analogy. Lincoln.

Speaker 18 (01:19:54):
You and I both were out all weekend. I ran
into each other all weekend, Right, yep? Did you and
I have any problems?

Speaker 1 (01:20:01):
No?

Speaker 6 (01:20:02):
You know why, because we show up responsible.

Speaker 18 (01:20:05):
So if you take three am in the morning in liquor,
what do you think that's a recipe for disaster.

Speaker 6 (01:20:13):
It gives you.

Speaker 3 (01:20:14):
Courage that you really don't have that liquor will do.

Speaker 18 (01:20:17):
So when you show up like that at three am
in the morning, and I don't care how people feel,
like what I'm getting ready to say, there ain't nothing
at three am but trouble. And you may be out
trying to have a booty car or whatever else and
I'm saying you're grown, you should be able to do that.

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But for crime to take place, it needs an opportunity.
And when you consume too much alcohol and you start
running your mouth and from what I saw, you put
your hands on some another grown person. That's a recipe
for disaster. So, in an emotional response that has come
over these these airways and nationally is irresponsible. It is

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not Cincinnati, although we've got our issues like every urban area.

Speaker 6 (01:21:12):
There you go, and so one fight, one fight.

Speaker 18 (01:21:15):
In downtown Cincinnati constitutes that the city's out of control.
We need to fire the city manager. That's politicals there
you go. That's the politics coming in. That's the politics.
And also it's the hate coming in also because unfortunately
we're in a country now that if we can spin
it to where black people are the problem, then all

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our other problems are absolved. And and and mister Bowman
pointing a finger at Sheryl Long as a result of
grown people acting like idiots is completely irresponsible. You know,
run on your merit, Run on you bringing some substance
to the city of Cincinnati, versus you shooting down a

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city manager that has done everything she possibly can to
right the crime problem in this city. So I stand
with Sheryl Long. Let me make that crystal clear. I
stand with her. I stand with Chief Thiji because she
said she told the whole truth. But the media is
despicable in showing half truth. And they haven't shown that

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slap yet. I haven't seen that on any channel exactly
because they want to pain a narrative. They're fear mongerers,
just like a whole lot of other people that have
a voice. And that is that's completely unacceptable that the
right has run on fear from day one. Oh my god,
just like the people, the poor women in the suburbs,

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Black people were coming to the suburbs to cause them issues.
Now you can't walk down the street in Cincinnati because
you may get beat.

Speaker 6 (01:22:53):
That's a complete lie.

Speaker 18 (01:22:54):
I was in Mount Adams last night and in a
room with probably sixty plus people, and most to them,
we're forty and over all white. Yeah, not one of
them is fearful about coming downtown Cincinnati. You know why
because they show up responsibly. And when you show up,
you were out all weekend. I was out all weekend.

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When you show up responsibly and you act responsibly and
you don't put yourself in situations ninety nine point nine
percent of the time, you're not gonna have any problem.

Speaker 3 (01:23:26):
And so what's gonna happen?

Speaker 10 (01:23:28):
Now?

Speaker 18 (01:23:28):
They have arrested some people, I guess are they they
levy charges. I'm not sure any arrest have been made,
but they do have. They have charged five people. I
think more to come. And I don't think anybody has
actually physically been arrested because those those indictments are sealed.

Speaker 6 (01:23:46):
They don't want people knowing the next move and who
it is.

Speaker 18 (01:23:50):
But I was so glad to hear Chief Thiji say
everybody that put their hands on somebody is in trouble.

Speaker 5 (01:23:57):
Okay, So that coludes that person except the white guy
who slapped the black guy.

Speaker 18 (01:24:02):
That includes there you go, he's smack. He put his
hands on somebody. That's an assault. And somebody said they
were from out of town.

Speaker 6 (01:24:08):
Do you know, I don't have any information on that.
Nothing is nothing there verified.

Speaker 18 (01:24:13):
Also, you know, it's it's also linking a crime for
people to start jumping around talking about it to hate crime.

Speaker 3 (01:24:20):
Okay on one end, Yeah, yeah, right right on one end.

Speaker 6 (01:24:24):
Go ahead, take a quick break, and they look.

Speaker 5 (01:24:26):
Up back with more from Scottie Johnson, Cincinnati City Council Member,
twelve thirty The Buzz where a show till one o'clock
this afternoon, Scottie Johnson, Cincinnati City Council Member, head of
the Uh, they don't.

Speaker 3 (01:24:38):
Call it law in public safety and safety and government
safety and governance. Yeah, okay, And.

Speaker 5 (01:24:42):
Which is you know over the police department, fire department
and uh and so you're standing behind the chief on everything.
What about this I'm hearing about? The task force was
sent home at two o'clock. And that's right when everything
starts to happen, when the bars let out.

Speaker 3 (01:24:57):
How did that? How did they let that happen?

Speaker 18 (01:24:59):
You know, I'm not sure you were about I'm not
sure about why they were let go of two. But
then you know, I'm gonna I pushed back a little
bit on that to say the night was very quiet
except for that incident. So what happens a lot of times,
having worked task for since that and stuff like that,
they get it. You know, you kind of start taking
a pulse and it seems like things are quiet, and

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they're going down and they're like, you know, okay, you
know it looks like it's quiet. It's two o'clock in
the morning. The festival was way over with. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I want to make that overweight. What was it, eleven
forty five, you know whatever, just so I don't want
that broadbrush thing being painted over the festival either. Why

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the festival had nothing to do with what happened at
three o'clock in the morning, So stop with the narrative
that the festival is a contributor to grown people acting
like idiots.

Speaker 6 (01:25:58):
You know, cut that out. So I was there both nights,
absolutely nothing wrong.

Speaker 18 (01:26:03):
So maybe you know, because everything was so smooth and
the festival was over with before midnight, maybe it was
kind of like, okay, you know, let's go ahead and
release release the task force.

Speaker 6 (01:26:15):
But that happens a lot.

Speaker 18 (01:26:16):
That happens a lot unfortunately, you know, to be honest,
if it happened at four and they let them go
with three, then we.

Speaker 6 (01:26:24):
The question why they keep them four.

Speaker 18 (01:26:27):
So I think the police department did everything they could
with the man power they had. And I think the
police department did a great job this weekend making sure
everybody was safe. And I commend the people that came
into town to celebrate our city, and I also commend
everybody that went to the shows. And then Sunday, I

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heard you say I tried to sneak preach now.

Speaker 3 (01:26:51):
Turn they said that there was a long prayer did there.
It was almost like a sermon, you.

Speaker 6 (01:26:58):
Know, a pastor cook did a great job with the sermon.

Speaker 18 (01:27:01):
But it was great, Just a great weekend Lincoln from
Thursday to Sunday, you know what I mean. And it's
unfortunate that we had a big fight that people captured.
But this, this lie that it's not safe to be
in downtown Cincinnati is it's a lie. If you mind
your own business and you're not drunk, and you keep

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your hands to yourself more than ninety nine point nine
percent of the time, you're not gonna have a problem
in Cincinnati.

Speaker 5 (01:27:28):
And it was a white couple in our booth and
it was Saturday, Saturday, and then yeah, it was Saturday,
and you know, we had heard about the fight, but
they living over the Rhine. They were gonna walk from
the stadium downtown through all the way. And then you're like,
we're okay, we're gonna be okay, We're not gonna start
fighting with somebody. And they, you know, walked from downtown

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all the way through over the Rhine and they were fine.

Speaker 6 (01:27:53):
No problems because they showed up responsibly.

Speaker 18 (01:27:56):
Yes, And like I said, let me preface this before
somebody's tells its okay to see people get kicked.

Speaker 3 (01:28:02):
That's not what I'm saying.

Speaker 18 (01:28:03):
I'm saying, if you show up responsibly, you're not drunk,
you don't put your hands on other individuals, You're not
gonna have a problem with Cincinnati.

Speaker 5 (01:28:10):
Ye all right, let's see. I think I had table
one call before we go to news. Uh white liar.

Speaker 11 (01:28:17):
Yeah, okay, so let's get something situated here.

Speaker 1 (01:28:19):
Man.

Speaker 11 (01:28:20):
I agree with you guys all the way about this
not being a race thing. I called yesterday and said
about that it was a bunch of drunk people downtown
actually stupid. But what we're not gonna do is sit
here and just and try to make this scene to
where the white guy slapped the guy and that's what
started to fight. He had already been kicked.

Speaker 1 (01:28:36):
Twice, surrounded, pushed around, and then when they.

Speaker 11 (01:28:40):
All got up in each other's face, that's.

Speaker 3 (01:28:41):
What How do you know? How do you know this?
Did you see all this?

Speaker 2 (01:28:45):
Have you not seen the videos?

Speaker 10 (01:28:46):
Linking?

Speaker 3 (01:28:46):
I saw the video of the guys on the video,
so you've seen them all? You've seen them all.

Speaker 4 (01:28:53):
I've seen more than you apparently, no, you have. You
had to get to where why he.

Speaker 1 (01:28:57):
Was getting pigged?

Speaker 4 (01:28:58):
I want to know what's heard at all because it
wasn't a flat So I've heard multiple people calling here like, oh,
you can't put it now? Should the guy be arrested
in charge for it? Yet? You can't hit people, So
I'm not disputing that, but that ain't what started it.
And I hear this you guys trying to spend it
on here like that, That's not what happened. He was
kicked and shoved and then when they.

Speaker 3 (01:29:18):
Was he drunk? A white liar? Was he drunk?

Speaker 1 (01:29:21):
I said yesterday.

Speaker 4 (01:29:22):
Man, why do you call.

Speaker 11 (01:29:26):
Me when I called it?

Speaker 3 (01:29:27):
Just answer the question?

Speaker 6 (01:29:28):
Was he drunk?

Speaker 11 (01:29:29):
They were all drunk?

Speaker 4 (01:29:33):
Explain to me how you're that and you sent the
task force home at two?

Speaker 1 (01:29:38):
Y'all are tripping.

Speaker 4 (01:29:40):
Y'all are tripping. That's all it is. It's mismanaged.

Speaker 1 (01:29:43):
The city is ran poorly.

Speaker 4 (01:29:44):
Y'all are doing a terrible job. Scotty, I think you're
a clown as far as like your position and everything.
Like personally, I'll be probably a cool dude whatever, But outside,
what do you mean terrible at? Your job is on
fot What did he do?

Speaker 2 (01:29:59):
Tho?

Speaker 3 (01:30:00):
Terrible?

Speaker 4 (01:30:00):
Tell me.

Speaker 2 (01:30:04):
You know what?

Speaker 4 (01:30:05):
You know what you called?

Speaker 18 (01:30:06):
You know you've been talking and you called names, and
that's cool, you know, But here's here's the bottom line.
You it's amazing that you've got more information than we do. Yes,
that's always amazing. You always know more than we do.
Uh me being a clown? You know your your mother's
a clown. Okay, name calling is completely out of order.
Nobody calls you any names. Your mother's a clown. So,

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having said all of that, the city is not on fire.
The city is being run by capable people to to
the best of the ability. Where is the responsibility for
grown people to show up responsibly so you can It's
easy to point a finger and talk about the cities
being run uh poorly. No, it's not the city's being

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run by capable people. The police departments being run by
a capable leader. The city's being run by Sheryl Long,
a very capable lady. Yes, so your perception. You can
put that in the toilet with your head. He's with
uh exactly. The wants to keep he wants to keep
the divide going. Scared people have people scared to come downtown.

Speaker 6 (01:31:13):
Exactly the whole bit.

Speaker 5 (01:31:14):
Let's break the news, will come back with more from
Scottie Johnson. Twelve thirty The Buzz twelve thirty The Buzz